From derek.c.job at gmail.com Tue Dec 1 01:28:40 2009 From: derek.c.job at gmail.com (Derek Job) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 09:28:40 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] travelling assistance in France In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Robert, I can see why your son might need some travel tips- he's going to Paris - but booked a flight to Lyon!!! Just joking. I lived in Paris for 5 years and loved it all. I agree with the comments Kees made. Get the TGV to Paris then travel around on the metro. It's cheap, clean, easy to understand and very efficient with lots of trains going everywhere. What I learnt very quickly is that if you want people to help you then make an effort to go through the prelimenary courtisies. In practice that means before asking any question you must first say, at the very least, Bonjour Monsieur, Bonjour Madame. If you know a bit more polite French then that's even better, but don't miss out the formalty. It's considered very rude to just start talking to somebody. salut Derek On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:31 PM, wrote: > Hi! > > > > My son is going to Paris over the Christmas holidays. Unfortunately he > booked > a flight to Lyon when he should have gone direct to Paris. Now, he's > looking > at taking a train from Lyon to Paris. Does anyone on the list have any > helpful information on how to get around there? Including how well the > French > understand English? :) > > > TIA! > > > Robert Duquette > Ottawa ON Canada > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as derek.c.job at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From dpaye at crocker.com Tue Dec 1 03:16:56 2009 From: dpaye at crocker.com (Donald Paye) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 04:16:56 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Auto Trader healey Message-ID: <152C4FE535CE488AB60F8C48454449C9@DonaldPayePC> Has anyone had any experience purchasing cars listed on Auto Trader Classics. Currently there is a 1964 AH BJ7 listed at $9900 being sold by a Joesph Perez along with three other cars all at $9900. A friend has been in contact with him and asking advise. If it sounds too good it probably is not......!!!! Any thoughts appreciated. Don BN1,BJ7,Tiger From sbyers at ec.rr.com Tue Dec 1 02:22:11 2009 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 04:22:11 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Reno Red - revisit In-Reply-To: <20865AFC38B6475EB9911B68A41ED3C7@user8634b3d69b> References: <002e01ca71fe$6c5ff3e0$451fdba0$@rr.com> <20865AFC38B6475EB9911B68A41ED3C7@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: <000e01ca7267$c3682220$4a386660$@rr.com> Dang! -----Original Message----- From: Guy R Day [mailto:grday at btinternet.com] Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 7:28 PM To: BJ8 Healeys; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Reno Red - revisit I would query February 29th 1957. It was not a leap year, February ended on the 28th. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "BJ8 Healeys" To: Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Reno Red - revisit > Hi, Alan - > > I have copies of BMIHT certificates for 661 BJ8s. For some cars, I have > multiple certificates issued for the same car at different times with > different information. So, I have ample evidence that there are errors on > the certificates far too frequently for the price they are asking for them > now. > > However, I'm not sure if you are considering a build date of 27 February > and > a date when the car left the factory of 29 February as in conflict. The > certificates (for BJ8s, anyway) designate the build dates as the dates > between "Off Body Line" and "Off Finishing". There is another date not > given on the certificates ("Date Advised") which I interpret as the date > that Production notified the next department (Shipping?) that the car was > ready to go. The actual "Despatch" date could be the same date as the > "build" date, or several days, weeks, or months later. It's possible that > your car's build date ("Off Finishing") was 27 February, but the date if > left the factory ("Despatch date") was 29 February. > > Happy Healeying! > Steve Byers > HBJ8L/36666 > BJ8 Registry > Havelock, NC USA From lists at brits-n-pieces.com Tue Dec 1 03:39:33 2009 From: lists at brits-n-pieces.com (Eric Frenken) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:39:33 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] finish of gauge housing In-Reply-To: <4B145B7D.7030307@sasktel.net> References: <20091130232000.UYBO7394.nschwotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com@rowe4323ef3cc5> <4B145B7D.7030307@sasktel.net> Message-ID: <000f01ca7272$92436910$b6ca3b30$@com> What was the finish of the gauge housings on the Big Healeys (in my case a BJ7 if that matters)? Zinc plated? Bare metal? Thanks in advance for all your wisdom. Eric From sbyers at ec.rr.com Tue Dec 1 04:26:09 2009 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 06:26:09 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Auto Trader healey In-Reply-To: <152C4FE535CE488AB60F8C48454449C9@DonaldPayePC> References: <152C4FE535CE488AB60F8C48454449C9@DonaldPayePC> Message-ID: <002701ca7279$147e20e0$3d7a62a0$@rr.com> The red over black '64 BJ8 that is offered for $9,900 is certainly a scam. It has been the subject of scams on eBay in the recent past. When it first appeared on eBay I notified the actual owner, who confirmed the sale was not legitimate. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Donald Paye Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 5:17 AM To: Healeys Subject: [Healeys] Auto Trader healey Has anyone had any experience purchasing cars listed on Auto Trader Classics. Currently there is a 1964 AH BJ7 listed at $9900 being sold by a Joesph Perez along with three other cars all at $9900. A friend has been in contact with him and asking advise. If it sounds too good it probably is not......!!!! Any thoughts appreciated. Don BN1,BJ7,Tiger Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as sbyers at ec.rr.com http://www.team.net/archive From bcrist at club-internet.fr Tue Dec 1 04:30:17 2009 From: bcrist at club-internet.fr (Bernard Cristalli) Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 12:30:17 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] travelling assistance in France In-Reply-To: <43849415FF3E4FD0B6F29F5F5A27B27D@GregPC> References: <173126440911301444r79300c3eid2c107695fc89718@mail.gmail.com> <43849415FF3E4FD0B6F29F5F5A27B27D@GregPC> Message-ID: <4B14FE49.5070504@club-internet.fr> "Ou est la salle de bains" (where is the bathroom?) means you want to have a shower or a bath literally. If you're looking for the boys' (girls') room (or the loo), say: "Ou sont les toilettes?" or even shorter: "les toilettes, s'il vous plait'. B Greg Lemon a icrit : > If things aren't firmed up with Paris maybe head South to the > Nice/Cannes/Antibes/Monaco area, better scenery, fewer crowds, better > hotels for less money, generally more friendly folk. My wife and I > visited both areas about 10 years ago and much preferred the Sunny > south of France to Paris, although if you are only going once I > suppose the Eiffel Tower, Louvre etc. should probably be on the to do > list. > > If they don't understand English try talking louder and making > exagerrated hand gestures, it helps the American image oh so much. > > Just kidding many know some little bit of English, but they don't > always seem happy about trying to converse in it. If possible not a > bad idea to learn some basic conversational French, or at least add > "ou est la sal de bains" and "Parlez-vous Anglais?" > > Greg Lemon _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as bcrist at club-internet.fr > > http://www.team.net/archive From tomfelts at windstream.net Tue Dec 1 05:58:53 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 6:58:53 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Trailering/AAA Flatbed Danger In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20091130200518.01fed998@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20091201065853.FDBBA.1151932.root@ispmxfep13-z01> Funny, over the last 5 years I have had my E-Type trailered 3 times by AAA-sponsored towers. EACH time they were very careful and were happy to listen to my advice as to where to hook the cable and how to secure the car. Not one scratch occurred. I was VERY happy with them. I also told them when I called what to bring---and they did it. Tom ---- john spaur wrote: ============= I switched to National Automobile Club quite some time ago and they have been great! BTW, The California AAA reported over $3,500,000,000 in stocks and cash and cash equivalents in three years (2001-2004) I do not understand how they can be a non-profit and change so much. I had them for nearly 30 years and quit because they are expensive. John At 02:02 PM 11/23/2009 -0600, Jack Feldman wrote: >Beware of AAA towing for a Healey. ... > >AAA is cheap, and doesn't really care about your car. *Be sure the person >who puts it on a flatbed knows what he is doing. >*.... >BEWARE OF AAA! They are more interested in selling you insurance and booking >trips than servicing your special needs.. > >Jack Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net http://www.team.net/archive From bspidell at comcast.net Tue Dec 1 06:33:19 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 05:33:19 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] finish of gauge housing In-Reply-To: <000f01ca7272$92436910$b6ca3b30$@com> References: <20091130232000.UYBO7394.nschwotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com@rowe4323ef3cc5> <4B145B7D.7030307@sasktel.net> <000f01ca7272$92436910$b6ca3b30$@com> Message-ID: <4B151B1F.7060007@comcast.net> Good question! I'd be interested to know as well. Can offer that the insides appeared to have been painted white, in order to reflect the back (6-cyl) or perimeter (4-cyl?) gauge lighting. The outer case appears to be painted--it's a bit dark for Zn plating--but that's just a guess. bs Eric Frenken wrote: > What was the finish of the gauge housings on the Big Healeys (in my case a > BJ7 if that matters)? Zinc plated? Bare metal? > > Thanks in advance for all your wisdom. > > Eric > ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From bspidell at comcast.net Tue Dec 1 06:46:31 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 05:46:31 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Trailering/AAA Flatbed Danger In-Reply-To: References: <48720d20911231202g5d4886aex424930c23ad16d7d@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.3.4.2.20091130200518.01fed998@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4B151E37.8040105@comcast.net> re: "With google maps and Garmin, I guess the only AAA benefit these days is the towing" The motel room discounts from AAA all but pay for my subscription; the maps and the travel guides--very helpful when trying to find a decent, reasonable motel room--and roadside assistance are a bonus. Nothing against GPS, but when you simply want to find the most interesting/fun route a map works just fine (the 'scenic route' markings on the AAA maps are usually correct). AARP has comparable discounts, but (so far) I've refused to join an organization that wants me just 'cause I'm old. bs Alan Seigrist wrote: > John - > > As an insurance company, they don't have to follow standard GAAP accounting > procedures. They do need the cash and equivalents to operate properly as an > insurance company, but they won't necessarily be non profit except according > to the rules they are supposed to follow. It's all a bit of a bait and > switch, but to be fair, they need the cash on the books for their insurance > business. Are they really a non-profit? Who knows. > > With google maps and Garmin, I guess the only AAA benefit these days is the > towing, but honestly if I'm somewhere around my hometown neigborhood, towing > insurance is far better than AAA because I can specify the tow company and > ask for a flatbed tow. > > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '59 Jag Mk IX > '64 BJ8 > > ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From gstigen at msn.com Tue Dec 1 07:26:18 2009 From: gstigen at msn.com (gene stigen) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 06:26:18 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] '63 BJ8? Message-ID: Owning '63 BJ7&had '64 BJ7 phase 1&2,'65BJ8,still have very late '67 MK3 Phase2& early '53 100-4. Been driving, playing&working on them since '69,sorry there were no BJ8s in '63,didn't happen to best of my knowledge,some late '64s. cheers Geno From richchrysler at quickclic.net Tue Dec 1 07:40:19 2009 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 09:40:19 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] finish of gauge housing References: <20091130232000.UYBO7394.nschwotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com@rowe4323ef3cc5><4B145B7D.7030307@sasktel.net> <000f01ca7272$92436910$b6ca3b30$@com> <4B151B1F.7060007@comcast.net> Message-ID: All that I have observed seem to have been a very dull greyish plating. I don't think it was paint. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Spidell" To: Cc: "'Healeys List'" Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] finish of gauge housing > Good question! I'd be interested to know as well. > Can offer that the insides appeared to have been painted white, in order > to reflect the back (6-cyl) or perimeter (4-cyl?) gauge lighting. The > outer case appears to be painted--it's a bit dark for Zn plating--but > that's just a guess. > > > bs > > > > Eric Frenken wrote: >> What was the finish of the gauge housings on the Big Healeys (in my case >> a >> BJ7 if that matters)? Zinc plated? Bare metal? >> >> Thanks in advance for all your wisdom. >> >> Eric >> > ******************************************************************* > Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net > > ******************************************************************* > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richchrysler at quickclic.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From tjmorrio at colby.edu Tue Dec 1 07:49:19 2009 From: tjmorrio at colby.edu (Thomas Morrione) Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 09:49:19 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Rear spring shackles In-Reply-To: <8CC40A8753C00DC-37A0-30BC@webmail-d047.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Many thanks it9s a 65. I sent the numbers to Steve Byers so will check. But, yes, my car does have the torque rods. The spring schackles seem to be a combination of odd Healey bits (but not made of bits from the bin). Tom On 12/1/09 9:19 AM, "warthodson at aol.com" wrote: > From the description, it is possible you have a Phase I BJ8, which would mean > that the springs & attachments are the same as earlier Healeys. > The later BJ8's have two torgue rods (one on each end of the axle near the > brakes) that connect to the frame. Does your car have these? If not it is a > Phase I. > Gary > > ... got a new shackle set and they have a wider > distance, bolt shackle to frame and bolt shackle to spring -- about a good > quarter of an inch more distance between these two bolts, that is. What will > this mean, if anything, re wheel height into wheel well, etc.? Was my > original set up just weird? Am I in for it when I try to do this job? (I9ve > read the archives and gleaned caveats from web stories re leaf spring > hassles. Am a bit worried.) > ... From bspidell at comcast.net Tue Dec 1 07:50:19 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 06:50:19 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] finish of gauge housing In-Reply-To: References: <20091130232000.UYBO7394.nschwotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com@rowe4323ef3cc5><4B145B7D.7030307@sasktel.net> <000f01ca7272$92436910$b6ca3b30$@com> <4B151B1F.7060007@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4B152D2B.2080702@comcast.net> Hi Rich, Agreed--seems too thin to be paint. But, it's too gray to be cadmium, and too dark to be zinc, as far as I can tell. Anyone on a first name basis with Nisonger or MoMa that can ask them? bs Rich C wrote: > All that I have observed seem to have been a very dull greyish > plating. I don't think it was paint. > > Rich Chrysler > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Dec 1 07:53:31 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 14:53:31 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] travelling assistance in France In-Reply-To: <43849415FF3E4FD0B6F29F5F5A27B27D@GregPC> References: <173126440911301444r79300c3eid2c107695fc89718@mail.gmail.com>, <43849415FF3E4FD0B6F29F5F5A27B27D@GregPC> Message-ID: Scenery is secondary. He's going to see a girl. LOL! If he does need to talk louder and use the hand gestures, I'll request that he put a US flag patch on to help your image. He should know 'some' French. He was in French immersion for 3 years, way back when ... but he hasn't had much need to use it. One might think with my last name and that I grew up ... ( maybe that's not the right phrase? ) ... was born and raised in the province of Quebec that there might be some French language in me somewhere to pass down, but alas, no. Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada > From: glemon at neb.rr.com > > If things aren't firmed up with Paris maybe head South to the > Nice/Cannes/Antibes/Monaco area, better scenery, fewer crowds, better hotels > for less money, generally more friendly folk. My wife and I visited both > areas about 10 years ago and much preferred the Sunny south of France to > Paris, although if you are only going once I suppose the Eiffel Tower, > Louvre etc. should probably be on the to do list. > > If they don't understand English try talking louder and making exagerrated > hand gestures, it helps the American image oh so much. > > Just kidding many know some little bit of English, but they don't always > seem happy about trying to converse in it. If possible not a bad idea to > learn some basic conversational French, or at least add "ou est la sal de > bains" and "Parlez-vous Anglais?" > > Greg Lemon From tomfelts at windstream.net Tue Dec 1 08:02:00 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 9:02:00 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Trailering/AAA Flatbed Danger In-Reply-To: <740c31620912010537h5f75ebc0qd7dc7f5f19036822@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20091201090200.GO0SM.1155702.root@ispmxfep13-z01> I think the difference is IF you are there watching what they do. ---- Jonathan Einhorn wrote: ============= Several years ago my M-5 had to be towed. I requested a flatbed which AAA sent while I was at work. My wife called a few hours later and said that the BMW had rolled off the flatbed while they were loading it and the front bumper fell off after it hit a tree...It was all due to an inexperienced kid doing the towing for the AAA. Never again. I think the repair costs (which their insurance paid), were about $5,500. jon einhorn On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 7:58 AM, Tom Felts wrote: > Funny, over the last 5 years I have had my E-Type trailered 3 times by > AAA-sponsored towers. EACH time they were very careful and were happy to > listen to my advice as to where to hook the cable and how to secure the car. > Not one scratch occurred. I was VERY happy with them. I also told them > when I called what to bring---and they did it. > > Tom > > ---- john spaur wrote: > > ============= > I switched to National Automobile Club quite some time ago and they > have been great! > > BTW, The California AAA reported over $3,500,000,000 in stocks and > cash and cash equivalents in three years (2001-2004) I do not > understand how they can be a non-profit and change so much. I had > them for nearly 30 years and quit because they are expensive. > > John > > At 02:02 PM 11/23/2009 -0600, Jack Feldman wrote: > >Beware of AAA towing for a Healey. ... > > > >AAA is cheap, and doesn't really care about your car. *Be sure the person > >who puts it on a flatbed knows what he is doing. > >*.... > >BEWARE OF AAA! They are more interested in selling you insurance and > booking > >trips than servicing your special needs.. > > > >Jack > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as jnhorn at aol.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Jonathan J. Einhorn, Esq. Attorney & Counselor at Law 412 Orange Street New Haven, CT. 06511 tel: 203-7777-3777 einhornlawoffice at gmail.com fax: 203-782-1721 cell: 203-623-7373 From pennell at cox.net Tue Dec 1 08:11:51 2009 From: pennell at cox.net (pennell at cox.net) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 10:11:51 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 3 Lefts Make a Right In-Reply-To: <20091130200555.IU2DF.1153583.root@ispmxfep10-z02> Message-ID: <20091201101151.YDUBM.2567.imail@eastrmwml36> Right on Tom!!!!!! ---- Tom Felts wrote: > What's the matter Rich--you feeling "left out":):):):) Sorry, I just couldn't resist one more. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Dec 1 08:17:34 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 15:17:34 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] travelling assistance in France In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Salut Derek! To me, that's no joke ( but funny, none the less :) ). Believe me, that does concern me! I think what happened is that the plan changed somewhere along the line and instead of meeting in Lyon, now they're meeting in Paris. When he went to change the ticket, the price had changed in a very inadvantageous way for him and it's much cheaper to take the train. I'll find out later what happened. I'm sure that there's a lesson to be learned here somewhere. If he can get from Lyon to Paris and meet with his 'friend', then I'll be less concerned. Robert Duquette ( My mother's name was O'Reilly and my father's mother's name was Keenan! And that's my excuse! :) ) Ottawa ON Canada Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 09:28:40 +0100 Subject: Re: [Healeys] travelling assistance in France From: derek.c.job at gmail.com To: robertduquette at sympatico.ca CC: healeys at autox.team.net Hi Robert, I can see why your son might need some travel tips- he's going to Paris - but booked a flight to Lyon!!! Just joking. I lived in Paris for 5 years and loved it all. I agree with the comments Kees made. Get the TGV to Paris then travel around on the metro. It's cheap, clean, easy to understand and very efficient with lots of trains going everywhere. What I learnt very quickly is that if you want people to help you then make an effort to go through the prelimenary courtisies. In practice that means before asking any question you must first say, at the very least, Bonjour Monsieur, Bonjour Madame. If you know a bit more polite French then that's even better, but don't miss out the formalty. It's considered very rude to just start talking to somebody. salut Derek On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:31 PM, wrote: Hi! My son is going to Paris over the Christmas holidays. Unfortunately he booked a flight to Lyon when he should have gone direct to Paris. Now, he's looking at taking a train from Lyon to Paris. Does anyone on the list have any helpful information on how to get around there? Including how well the French understand English? :) TIA! Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as derek.c.job at gmail.com http://www.team.net/archive From cnaarndt at gmail.com Tue Dec 1 08:21:14 2009 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 07:21:14 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Reamers In-Reply-To: <759624276.7678721259600514801.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <751d05480911300820o776cc296p6312ceb930daa8c7@mail.gmail.com> <759624276.7678721259600514801.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <751d05480912010721l26b319bcqd3429f972b854858@mail.gmail.com> Bob, Absolutely, positively, no doubt in my mind! UNF = SAE Fine and UNC = SAE Coarse. It was set up this way when the British transitioned away from the Whitworth Standard. Now, I initially was going to write that the two were virtually identical because there are some minor differences, but I thought that this would confuse some people with minutia. The differences are too minor and they are interchangeable. If yours don't fit then something is amiss and you'll need to find out what the problem could be. Don't necessarily go by the Moss Catalog. First, get a proper thread gauge and check for yourself. Whitworth thread gauges are not that hard to come by and I have several. Check against US Thread gauge to be certain. First make certain the threads are perfectly clean, and if possible I clean them on a wire wheel. If the threads are damaged in any way this could be your problem. I've had stretched fasteners with this problem where they will start to thread in and then bind up. When a used a die I would start to cut threads. "British Butter Bolts" is an accurate description and any stretch will cause what you describe. I've also had bolts where the threads became damaged and would bind up. Next, don't use cheap taps and dies. My Whitworth stuff is high quality German made of HSS, and the same goes for my UNF & UNC taps and dies, quality made from the UK. The stuff they sell at local US hardware stores is not always up to par in my opinion (feel free to interpret this as CRAP.) A lot of my information has come from my 16th Edition, 1959 Machinery's Handbook and many articles that I have research over the years. Plus 35 years of mucking around with Austin Healeys. Oh, and FWIW there are several more obscure Whitworth thread forms which include... British Standard Screw Threads (Taper) for Copper Pipes. British Standard Electrical Conduit (BSEC) Model Engineers (ME)** And there's more, but I won't go into them since they'll really obscure the issue, but just remember, to be Whitworth they MUST have a 55 degree thread angle. Cheers, Curt On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Bob Spidell wrote: > re: "*Unified Fine (UNF)* - Identical to American SAE Fine and > *Interchangeable*. The angle of the threads is 60 degrees." > > Are you sure about this one? For instance, the threads on the large U-bolt > that fastens the axle to rear springs is noted as 'UNF' in, for instance, > the Moss catalog. I believe they are either 5/16" or 3/8." Anyway, we > tried to run SAE fine nuts on them--they'll go about 3/4" inch just fine, > then jam. A thread chaser will go 3/4", then cut, then go 3/4", then cut, > etc. > > Same story with some of the nuts and bolts on the shock hardware. > > bs > > -------------------------------- > > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA From grumpyinloomis at ssctv.net Tue Dec 1 08:22:05 2009 From: grumpyinloomis at ssctv.net (Jerry Costanzo) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 07:22:05 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] restoring cars and welding Message-ID: <94D1811F24C94A86A8A38A0D1D7A671E@cardinalhealth.net> Group, Just wanted to share some experiences with welding. I had a MIG welder that was originally from Harbor Freight or equivalent. It was always wrapping the wire into a knot and or not working properly. I finally asked my wife to take it to get fixed. The people at the welding shop said it was a piece of junk and would not work on it. My very nice wife bought me a Hobart 189. After a few adjustments, I am welding better than I ever have in my life. Good equipment works. I know many of you know how to weld. As many have said, it just takes practice and a good welder. I have decided that you can't restore a car without a welder and a Dremel. Jerry BJ8 BN4 From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Dec 1 08:35:40 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:35:40 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] finish of gauge housing In-Reply-To: <4B151B1F.7060007@comcast.net> References: <20091130232000.UYBO7394.nschwotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com@rowe4323ef3cc5> <4B145B7D.7030307@sasktel.net> <000f01ca7272$92436910$b6ca3b30$@com> <4B151B1F.7060007@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4B1537CC.4000803@chello.nl> The Smiths/Jaeger instrument housings were zinc electroplated and the inside was painted white or white and pale blue. The zinc (re)plating can be done at home as there are several sets available running from a battery using a zincsalt solution, electrodes and a sponge. I cannot remember the brand.I do not know if they worked properly as I never tried them. They were/are used to repair the original zinc coat on modern cars after crash repair. The zinc plating becomes dark gray with age and corrosion. Some of the older instruments and the clocks had a cast mazac or zinc housing. Kees Oudesluijs NL > Good question! I'd be interested to know as well. > Can offer that the insides appeared to have been painted white, in > order to reflect the back (6-cyl) or perimeter (4-cyl?) gauge > lighting. The outer case appears to be painted--it's a bit dark for > Zn plating--but that's just a guess. > > >> What was the finish of the gauge housings on the Big Healeys (in my >> case a >> BJ7 if that matters)? Zinc plated? Bare metal? >> >> Thanks in advance for all your wisdom. From walt2727 at yahoo.com Tue Dec 1 08:38:21 2009 From: walt2727 at yahoo.com (Walt Peterson) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 07:38:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] finish of gauge housing In-Reply-To: <4B152D2B.2080702@comcast.net> Message-ID: <247951.16783.qm@web31406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Tain't paint: Donald was able to recycle his old teabags for the mix... Walt --- On Tue, 12/1/09, Bob Spidell wrote: From: Bob Spidell Subject: Re: [Healeys] finish of gauge housing To: "Rich C" Cc: "'Healeys List'" , eric.frenken at brits-n-pieces.com Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 9:50 AM Hi Rich, Agreed--seems too thin to be paint. But, it's too gray to be cadmium, and too dark to be zinc, as far as I can tell. Anyone on a first name basis with Nisonger or MoMa that can ask them? bs Rich C wrote: > All that I have observed seem to have been a very dull greyish plating. I don't think it was paint. > > Rich Chrysler > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as walt2727 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive From javrugtman at htcnet.org Tue Dec 1 08:38:21 2009 From: javrugtman at htcnet.org (John Vrugtman) Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 10:38:21 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] '63 BJ8? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B15386D.1060605@htcnet.org> Early 64s. I bought and still own a 64 BJ8 Ph1 in spring of 64. John BJ8s gene stigen wrote: > Owning '63 BJ7&had '64 BJ7 phase 1&2,'65BJ8,still have very late '67 MK3 > Phase2& early '53 100-4. Been driving, playing&working on them since '69,sorry > there were no BJ8s in '63,didn't happen to best of my knowledge,some late > '64s. cheers Geno From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 1 09:09:13 2009 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 08:09:13 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] BN2 Distributor Driving Spindle In-Reply-To: <20091129.051912.10765.30759@mailpop07.dca.untd.com> References: <20091129.051912.10765.30759@mailpop07.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: Doug, yes we do have some used 100/4 distributor drive spindles David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Nov 29, 2009, at 5:19 AM, dwflagg wrote: > Would anyone have a drive gear (driving spindle) for a BN2 40495A > distributor available? If so, please contact me off the list. Thanks. > > Doug > ____________________________________________________________ > One Up the Competition > Earn your MBA from Post University. Free textbooks for new students! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c? > cp=bwCxFuTR7_TR2DpTvXgxYwAAJ1B-9ttc3k1I_21D8YCzT29EAAQAAAAFAAAAAHvRIz4 > AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABIhWQAAAAA= > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 1 09:09:59 2009 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 08:09:59 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Left Front Fender Needed In-Reply-To: <002f01ca70ac$3764f710$b1d2480c@DJN9Q661> References: <002f01ca70ac$3764f710$b1d2480c@DJN9Q661> Message-ID: <50CB39F1-0302-4CC0-8DBD-25AE461485C2@sbcglobal.net> On Nov 28, 2009, at 8:27 PM, Gerald Rude wrote: > Hello all, > > Any one have a left front fender for sale? the only portion that > needs to be > good is from the center of the fender well forward. > > Please contact me off line. > > Thanks, > > Jerry Rude > Prather California > g.rude at att.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gerald Rude > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 8:22 PM > Subject: Inner fender to fender spacing > > > Hi all, > > I'm fitting the fenders to the car, and the left inner fender > well seems to > have too much space between the lip to the fender. The fender > stands at about > 1 inch. I compared dimensions to the other side, and the fender > well is short > by 1 inch. This is the side that had the big shunt, and the frame > had to be > replaced from the firewall forward on this side. Anyway, the old > inner fender > well was used, but I've tried to pull it outward, and have managed > about 1/2 > inch but I still have a 1 inch gap. If I pull if further out, I > will have to > reposition the upper shroud bracket on the fender well. So my > options right > now are to continue pulling, and reposition the shroud support and > possibly > the inner shroud support which attaches to the inner fender well or > cut and > splice in a section of sheet metal. > > Is it necessary to have a small gap, say 1/4 inch or so? That is > what the > right side has, which was never in an accident.....Or can I get by > with the 1 > inch gap....?? > > any help much appreciated. > > Jerry Rude > BJ8 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gerald Rude > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 6:20 AM > Subject: Desperately seeking shroud > > > Hello all, > > I still am seeking (desperately) a front shroud for a BJ7/early > BJ8. > > Would any of you kind souls have one hanging in their garage > which may be > repairable?? Or know of anyone who may? > > Thank you so much, > > Jerry Rude > Prather California..... > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From bspidell at comcast.net Tue Dec 1 09:10:20 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 16:10:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Reamers In-Reply-To: <751d05480912010721l26b319bcqd3429f972b854858@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1554609061.8107891259683820245.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Curt, I defer to your experience and knowledge; however, that's what happened to us. The U-bolts were previously untouched as far as we could tell, but when we tried to thread an SAE fine nut the nut jammed between about 3/4" down the thread--yes, we cleaned the threads first, and used new nuts--and when we thread-chased the U-bolt the die jammed in the same locations (both nuts and die ran up fine until then). I have no explanation, that's just what happened to us (can only surmise the TPI were slightly different). My dad wants to just double-nut the U-bolts--when he's not looking I'll replace them. bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA Bob, Absolutely, positively, no doubt in my mind! UNF = SAE Fine and UNC = SAE Coarse. It was set up this way when the British transitioned away from the Whitworth Standard. Now, . . . And there's more, but I won't go into them since they'll really obscure the issue, but just remember, to be Whitworth they MUST have a 55 degree thread angle. Cheers, Curt On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Bob Spidell < bspidell at comcast.net > wrote: re: "*Unified Fine (UNF)* - Identical to American SAE Fine and *Interchangeable*. The angle of the threads is 60 degrees." Are you sure about this one? For instance, the threads on the large U-bolt that fastens the axle to rear springs is noted as 'UNF' in, for instance, the Moss catalog. I believe they are either 5/16" or 3/8." Anyway, we tried to run SAE fine nuts on them--they'll go about 3/4" inch just fine, then jam. A thread chaser will go 3/4", then cut, then go 3/4", then cut, etc. Same story with some of the nuts and bolts on the shock hardware. bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA From richchrysler at quickclic.net Tue Dec 1 09:14:31 2009 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:14:31 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] travelling assistance in France References: <173126440911301444r79300c3eid2c107695fc89718@mail.gmail.com>, <43849415FF3E4FD0B6F29F5F5A27B27D@GregPC> Message-ID: Robert, Make sure your son wears something that shows people he's Canadian; a maple leaf emblem on his collar, a Canadian flag pin, anything like that. It will make a huge difference in how much better he's treated throughout Europe and especially in France. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Healeys" Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] travelling assistance in France > Scenery is secondary. He's going to see a girl. > > > > LOL! If he does need to talk louder and use the hand gestures, I'll > request > that he put a US flag patch on to help your image. > > > > He should know 'some' French. He was in French immersion for 3 years, way > back when ... but he hasn't had much need to use it. One might think with > my > last name and that I grew up ... ( maybe that's not the right phrase? ) > ... > was born and raised in the province of Quebec that there might be some > French > language in me somewhere to pass down, but alas, no. > > Robert Duquette > Ottawa ON Canada From frogeye at porterscustom.com Tue Dec 1 09:31:24 2009 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (Dave Porter) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 09:31:24 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] finish of gauge housing In-Reply-To: <4B152D2B.2080702@comcast.net> References: <20091130232000.UYBO7394.nschwotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com@rowe4323ef3cc5><4B145B7D.7030307@sasktel.net><000f01ca7272$92436910$b6ca3b30$@com> <4B151B1F.7060007@comcast.net> <4B152D2B.2080702@comcast.net> Message-ID: <71354409B38F4462911C5DB084CF5C6C@oscar> ..well, I spoke with Margaret at MoMa and she said they weren't plated at all. Only painted on the inside. They have been using a Napa brand paint (iron cast) to more or less duplicate the original external case color.. I'm just the messenger... dave frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff blog: http://porterbikes.com/ -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Spidell Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:50 AM To: Rich C Cc: 'Healeys List'; eric.frenken at brits-n-pieces.com Subject: Re: [Healeys] finish of gauge housing Hi Rich, Agreed--seems too thin to be paint. But, it's too gray to be cadmium, and too dark to be zinc, as far as I can tell. Anyone on a first name basis with Nisonger or MoMa that can ask them? bs Rich C wrote: > All that I have observed seem to have been a very dull greyish > plating. I don't think it was paint. > > Rich Chrysler > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as frogeye at porterscustom.com http://www.team.net/archive From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Dec 1 09:52:30 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 17:52:30 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] travelling assistance in France In-Reply-To: References: <173126440911301444r79300c3eid2c107695fc89718@mail.gmail.com>, <43849415FF3E4FD0B6F29F5F5A27B27D@GregPC> Message-ID: <4B1549CE.5050203@chello.nl> Better not to show you are a foreigner at all and always start with "Bonjour monsieur/madame/mademoiselle" or at least with "Excusez moi monsieur etc.". Europeans, esp. French, Italians, Spaniards, Portuguese, Germans do appreciate when at least you make an effort in their own language. It is not often that people are gauged by there nationality as long as you keep your voice down. Kees Oudesluijs NL Rich C schreef: > Robert, > > Make sure your son wears something that shows people he's Canadian; a > maple leaf emblem on his collar, a Canadian flag pin, anything like > that. It will make a huge difference in how much better he's treated > throughout Europe and especially in France. > > Rich Chrysler From sbyers at ec.rr.com Tue Dec 1 10:28:53 2009 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 12:28:53 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] '63 BJ8? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003501ca72ab$c1719160$4454b420$@rr.com> Production of the Mark III (BJ8) began in October 1963. According to most of the world, except for the USA, the "year" of a car is the calendar year in which it was built. In the USA, the "new model year" begins in September/October so that most cars (probably all) built in '63 and sold in the USA would have been initially registered as '64s. According to Clausager, there were 0 Home market cars, 0 right-hand drive export cars, 1 left-hand drive export car, and 343 left-hand drive North American export BJ8s built in calendar year 1963. If any of those are currently registered in non-USA countries, they are probably registered as '63s. The BJ8 registry has plenty of examples of cars that were "1965s" in the USA becoming "1964s" when they went back to Europe. The BJ8 registry has 10 cars claiming to be 1963s. All except one of them are in Germany or The Netherlands. The exception is in Arizona. Interestingly, the BJ8 with the lowest chassis number (25315) was not built until 20 - 23 January 1964. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of gene stigen Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 9:26 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] '63 BJ8? sorry there were no BJ8s in '63,didn't happen to best of my knowledge,some late '64s. cheers Geno _______________________________________________ From kentmclean at comcast.net Tue Dec 1 10:39:36 2009 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean) Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 12:39:36 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 100 in Hemmings S&E Message-ID: <4B1554D8.4060201@comcast.net> Did this make the list when I wasn't looking? -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 From simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk Tue Dec 1 10:44:59 2009 From: simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk (Simon Lachlan) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 17:44:59 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] travelling assistance in France In-Reply-To: <4B1549CE.5050203@chello.nl> References: <173126440911301444r79300c3eid2c107695fc89718@mail.gmail.com>, <43849415FF3E4FD0B6F29F5F5A27B27D@GregPC> <4B1549CE.5050203@chello.nl> Message-ID: <000801ca72ae$010c26d0$03247470$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Oudesluys Sent: 01 December 2009 16:53 To: Rich C Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] travelling assistance in France Better not to show you are a foreigner at all and always start with "Bonjour monsieur/madame/mademoiselle" or at least with "Excusez moi monsieur etc.". Europeans, esp. French, Italians, Spaniards, Portuguese, Germans do appreciate when at least you make an effort in their own language. It is not often that people are gauged by there nationality as long as you keep your voice down. Kees Oudesluijs NL Agreed. Not necessary to wear a badge. The Europeans don't...I live in the UK and travel in Europe frequently and I don't see badges except, perhaps, on sports gear....on ski gear for example. Yes, keep your voice down. But, that's normal enough anywhere I'd have thought. A topic that's been skated around...better not to be thought to be from the States/anti-American sentiment lingering in France etcetc? Well, were he from the States in the first place he'd still be unlucky to encounter that. It's easy enough to find French who are not George Bush admirers but the great majority of them are polite, normal people on a one to one basis. I'd not expect him to have any problems whatsoever - travel itinerary or socially. (It was different years ago. Churchill said to someone (Ike?) that neither would the French forgive the British for not losing the war nor the Americans for winning it! But that's pretty well all history now.) Simon From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Dec 1 10:49:30 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 18:49:30 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] finish of gauge housing In-Reply-To: <71354409B38F4462911C5DB084CF5C6C@oscar> References: <20091130232000.UYBO7394.nschwotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com@rowe4323ef3cc5><4B145B7D.7030307@sasktel.net><000f01ca7272$92436910$b6ca3b30$@com> <4B151B1F.7060007@comcast.net> <4B152D2B.2080702@comcast.net> <71354409B38F4462911C5DB084CF5C6C@oscar> Message-ID: <4B15572A.7080602@chello.nl> Definitively zinc electro plated and later on cadmium plated, although it was so thin you could nearly rub it of. I have hundreds of these gauges and clocks, NOS and used. They are usually covered in surface rust in older cars that have been stored in damp conditions. Kees Oudesluijs NL Dave Porter schreef: > ..well, I spoke with Margaret at MoMa and she said they weren't plated at > all. Only painted on the inside. They have been using a Napa brand paint > (iron cast) to more or less duplicate the original external case color.. > I'm just the messenger... > dave From jmnewt at comcast.net Tue Dec 1 11:05:07 2009 From: jmnewt at comcast.net (Jack Newton) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:05:07 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 4 Cyl Compression Measurement Message-ID: Do any of you list participants have a good estimate of the compression readings (psi) that one should get on a 4 cyl rebuilt 100-4 BN-1engine with new rings, pistons, valves, etc. Engine is just assembled with no break-in miles so far. Pistons are std 8:1 ratio with no competition or performance mods. TIA Jack From rdryman1 at yahoo.com Tue Dec 1 11:31:19 2009 From: rdryman1 at yahoo.com (Richard Dryman) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 10:31:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Electrical problem diagnostics In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <967869.64440.qm@web110307.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> This is EE101 applied to a car battery being discharged when the car is parked and not driven & isolating the current drain circuit when not obvious. With battery shutoff switch and lack of fused circuits it is not as applicable to AH as to others but it is definitely a procedure to remember, for shorts, electric device current draw (not starter), etc. Also the double connectors in the AH can isolate circuits as per elec. diagram. Go to a Radio Shack & buy a 2 pack of 1.0 ohm, 10 watt resistors. http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062290 They cost $1.99. Wrap the leads of the 2 resistors together(wiring in Parallel)to make a 1/2 ohm resistor and then attach a alligator clip to each end, big enough to clamp on the ungrounded battery post (after disconnecting that battery cable. Note: battery disconnect switch should be 'on' and ign. switch 'off'. Connect one alligator clip to the battery anode and the other alligator clip to the removed battery cable( best to be on 'hot' post not ground). This will put a .5 ohm resistor in series with the removed battery cable. You absolutely have to have a voltmeter of some sort, a good digital vom is dirt cheap. Set the voltmeter controls to measure voltage, connect one lead of the VOM to the battery alligator clip and the other battery lead to the + cable alligator clip(parallel with the resistors). Using ohms law I=E/R where R will be .5 ohms wired as shown, just reading voltmeter will tell you how much current draw you have from a short or something left on . For example, if the voltmeter reads 5 volts, 5V/.5ohm= 10A current draw. Then start pulling fuses; when you pull the right fuse the voltage will drop drastically,; look for a problem in this circuit. If no change or very little change in voltage when you pull a fuse or connector, it's the wrong circuit. From bn1 at pacbell.net Tue Dec 1 12:01:35 2009 From: bn1 at pacbell.net (Mr. Bill) Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 11:01:35 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] travelling assistance in France In-Reply-To: <000801ca72ae$010c26d0$03247470$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> References: <173126440911301444r79300c3eid2c107695fc89718@mail.gmail.com>, <43849415FF3E4FD0B6F29F5F5A27B27D@GregPC> <4B1549CE.5050203@chello.nl> <000801ca72ae$010c26d0$03247470$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> Message-ID: <4B15680F.4000108@pacbell.net> Unless you want to be immediately identified as from the States, do not wear white sneakers! Bill Red Car > A topic that's been skated around...better not to be thought to be from the > States/anti-American sentiment lingering in France etcetc? Well, were he > from the States in the first place he'd still be unlucky to encounter that. > It's easy enough to find French who are not George Bush admirers but the > great majority of them are polite, normal people on a one to one basis. I'd > not expect him to have any problems whatsoever - travel itinerary or > socially. From frogeye at porterscustom.com Tue Dec 1 12:10:46 2009 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (Dave Porter) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 12:10:46 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Electrical problem diagnostics In-Reply-To: <967869.64440.qm@web110307.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <967869.64440.qm@web110307.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <794508634B504EA8A416F2D9D5884D5D@oscar> Why not just use an ammeter? dave frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff blog: http://porterbikes.com/ -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard Dryman Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 11:31 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Electrical problem diagnostics This is EE101 applied to a car battery being discharged when the car is parked and not driven & isolating the current drain circuit when not obvious. With battery shutoff switch and lack of fused circuits it is not as applicable to AH as to others but it is definitely a procedure to remember, for shorts, electric device current draw (not starter), etc. Also the double connectors in the AH can isolate circuits as per elec. diagram. Go to a Radio Shack & buy a 2 pack of 1.0 ohm, 10 watt resistors. http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062290 They cost $1.99. Wrap the leads of the 2 resistors together(wiring in Parallel)to make a 1/2 ohm resistor and then attach a alligator clip to each end, big enough to clamp on the ungrounded battery post (after disconnecting that battery cable. Note: battery disconnect switch should be 'on' and ign. switch 'off'. Connect one alligator clip to the battery anode and the other alligator clip to the removed battery cable( best to be on 'hot' post not ground). This will put a .5 ohm resistor in series with the removed battery cable. You absolutely have to have a voltmeter of some sort, a good digital vom is dirt cheap. Set the voltmeter controls to measure voltage, connect one lead of the VOM to the battery alligator clip and the other battery lead to the + cable alligator clip(parallel with the resistors). Using ohms law I=E/R where R will be .5 ohms wired as shown, just reading voltmeter will tell you how much current draw you have from a short or something left on . For example, if the voltmeter reads 5 volts, 5V/.5ohm= 10A current draw. Then start pulling fuses; when you pull the right fuse the voltage will drop drastically,; look for a problem in this circuit. If no change or very little change in voltage when you pull a fuse or connector, it's the wrong circuit. Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as frogeye at porterscustom.com http://www.team.net/archive From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Dec 1 12:19:36 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 20:19:36 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] travelling assistance in France In-Reply-To: <000801ca72ae$010c26d0$03247470$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> References: <173126440911301444r79300c3eid2c107695fc89718@mail.gmail.com>, <43849415FF3E4FD0B6F29F5F5A27B27D@GregPC> <4B1549CE.5050203@chello.nl> <000801ca72ae$010c26d0$03247470$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> Message-ID: <4B156C48.9020006@chello.nl> You thought rightly but you forgot some Dutch, Germans and Americans who will make their presence very known. Cheers, Kees Oudesluijs NL > > Yes, keep your voice down. But, that's normal enough anywhere I'd have > thought. From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Dec 1 12:24:45 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 20:24:45 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] 4 Cyl Compression Measurement In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B156D7D.2040807@chello.nl> Generally you will not get a proper reading on the compression from an engine that has not been run in. Kees Oudesluijs NL Jack Newton schreef: > Do any of you list participants have a good estimate of the compression > readings (psi) that one should get on a 4 cyl rebuilt 100-4 BN-1engine with > new rings, pistons, valves, etc. Engine is just assembled with no break-in > miles so far. Pistons are std 8:1 ratio with no competition or performance > mods. > TIA > Jack > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive From Healey100M at gmail.com Tue Dec 1 12:29:54 2009 From: Healey100M at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 14:29:54 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 100 in Hemmings S&E In-Reply-To: <4B1554D8.4060201@comcast.net> References: <4B1554D8.4060201@comcast.net> Message-ID: You can see the full story here. Yes, it's me. :-) They got most of the facts right! http://www.hemmings.com/hsx/stories/2009/12/01/hmn_feature1.html?GP=OTC-MJ175 2087487 Randy Randy Hicks www.austinhealey100m.com '56 100M '55 BN1 Dealer LeMans '62 BN7 MkII '65 BJ8 '53 MGTD Healey100M at gmail.com On Dec 1, 2009, at 12:39 PM, Kent McLean wrote: > Did this make the list when I wasn't looking? > > > > -- > Kent McLean > '56 100 BN2 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey100m at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From bcrist at club-internet.fr Tue Dec 1 12:36:15 2009 From: bcrist at club-internet.fr (Bernard Cristalli) Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 20:36:15 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] travelling assistance in France In-Reply-To: References: <173126440911301444r79300c3eid2c107695fc89718@mail.gmail.com>, <43849415FF3E4FD0B6F29F5F5A27B27D@GregPC> Message-ID: <4B15702F.1060301@club-internet.fr> That's true. I used to wear a "Canadian Armed Forces" jacket and I was always very well treated. B Rich C a icrit : > Robert, > > Make sure your son wears something that shows people he's Canadian; a > maple leaf emblem on his collar, a Canadian flag pin, anything like > that. It will make a huge difference in how much better he's treated > throughout Europe and especially in France. > > Rich Chrysler > > ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: "Healeys" > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 9:53 AM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] travelling assistance in France > > >> Scenery is secondary. He's going to see a girl. >> >> >> >> LOL! If he does need to talk louder and use the hand gestures, I'll >> request >> that he put a US flag patch on to help your image. >> >> >> >> He should know 'some' French. He was in French immersion for 3 >> years, way >> back when ... but he hasn't had much need to use it. One might think >> with my >> last name and that I grew up ... ( maybe that's not the right phrase? >> ) ... >> was born and raised in the province of Quebec that there might be >> some French >> language in me somewhere to pass down, but alas, no. >> >> Robert Duquette >> Ottawa ON Canada > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as bcrist at club-internet.fr > > http://www.team.net/archive From eyera3 at gmail.com Tue Dec 1 12:38:12 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:38:12 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] travelling assistance in France In-Reply-To: <4B15680F.4000108@pacbell.net> References: <173126440911301444r79300c3eid2c107695fc89718@mail.gmail.com> <43849415FF3E4FD0B6F29F5F5A27B27D@GregPC> <4B1549CE.5050203@chello.nl> <4B15680F.4000108@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <173126440912011138m57e8a568mc60a147441b46672@mail.gmail.com> just tell everyone you are Canadian.:) Actually, my wife and I had a wonderful time in Paris over the summer. We were worried about all of the horror stories we heard about being and American. The people could not have been nicer. I agree it helps that we tried to speak French, My wife far better than I, and yes we were polite. We had a wonderful time. Just expect to spend more money in 24 hours than you ever thought you would... On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Mr. Bill wrote: > Unless you want to be immediately identified as from the States, do not > wear white sneakers! > > Bill > Red Car > > > > A topic that's been skated around...better not to be thought to be from > the > > States/anti-American sentiment lingering in France etcetc? Well, were he > > from the States in the first place he'd still be unlucky to encounter > that. > > It's easy enough to find French who are not George Bush admirers but the > > great majority of them are polite, normal people on a one to one basis. > I'd > > not expect him to have any problems whatsoever - travel itinerary or > > socially. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- I Erbs Portland, OR From Healey100M at gmail.com Tue Dec 1 12:56:50 2009 From: Healey100M at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 14:56:50 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 100 in Hemmings S&E In-Reply-To: References: <4B1554D8.4060201@comcast.net> Message-ID: <9C3C8E5B-6E16-445E-81EA-DD102715010F@gmail.com> Sorry, I guess you can only get there if you subscribe. Randy On Dec 1, 2009, at 2:29 PM, Randy Hicks wrote: > http://www.hemmings.com/hsx/stories/2009/12/01/hmn_feature1.html?GP=OTC-MJ175 > 2087487 From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Tue Dec 1 13:09:35 2009 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 21:09:35 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] travelling assistance in France In-Reply-To: <43849415FF3E4FD0B6F29F5F5A27B27D@GregPC> References: <173126440911301444r79300c3eid2c107695fc89718@mail.gmail.com> <43849415FF3E4FD0B6F29F5F5A27B27D@GregPC> Message-ID: <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3C4B482@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> Do not believe what was said here about French people. They are very very nice. You just need to accept that they are superior to any other human being on this earth (joking). They just do not want to show their English is not as good as it should be to have a conversation. Show them you are willing to speak some words of their language. Even you fail, they see you had a try. Then they can be extremely helpful speaking with hands and feet, asking others for you, and try to help you. Just accept they are French and French people are very proud of their own. Don't disturb that. Otherwise you loose. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/GERMANY From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Dec 1 13:14:37 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 21:14:37 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] travelling assistance in France In-Reply-To: <173126440912011138m57e8a568mc60a147441b46672@mail.gmail.com> References: <173126440911301444r79300c3eid2c107695fc89718@mail.gmail.com> <43849415FF3E4FD0B6F29F5F5A27B27D@GregPC> <4B1549CE.5050203@chello.nl> <4B15680F.4000108@pacbell.net> <173126440912011138m57e8a568mc60a147441b46672@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B15792D.3080302@chello.nl> Depends on the wife and the streets you allow to let her see (with the top notch shops). And do not sit down on a nice terasse but go inside for a drink. Restaurants are fairly cheap if you are a bit carefull as are hotels apart from 4 and 5 star. New York, San Francisco, Miami or Boston are more expensive I found. Cheers, Kees Oudesluijs NL I Erbs schreef: > Just expect to spend more money in 24 hours than you > ever thought you would... > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Mr. Bill wrote: From tomleavy at comcast.net Tue Dec 1 13:25:16 2009 From: tomleavy at comcast.net (tomleavy at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 20:25:16 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] finish of gauge housing Message-ID: <282826607.10393181259699116710.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I used the Eastwood zinc plating kit to replate mine... worked great. Regards, Tom From richard.ewald at gmail.com Tue Dec 1 13:30:08 2009 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 12:30:08 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Electrical problem diagnostics In-Reply-To: <794508634B504EA8A416F2D9D5884D5D@oscar> References: <967869.64440.qm@web110307.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <794508634B504EA8A416F2D9D5884D5D@oscar> Message-ID: Or give the hard job to the lazy guy, who will show you the easy way to do it. Disconnect one battery terminal and connect a 12V test light in series between the battery post and the battery cable end. If there is a draw that is large enough to be a concern, the test light will light. Start puling fuses or whatever until the light goes out. If the test light does not light, there probably is no draw, but if you are anal retentive, and want to be sure, at this point you can set your DMM to the milliamp scale and hook it in series. If you have a clock, alarm, or a modern radio that has an electronic you will see a few milliamps, probably way less than 20. this is a normal and acceptable draw for these devices. This is auto diagnostics 101. Rick On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Dave Porter wrote: > Why not just use an ammeter? > dave From tomfelts at windstream.net Tue Dec 1 13:33:10 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 14:33:10 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] travelling assistance in France In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20091201143310.OSZFU.1164935.root@ispmxfep13-z01> Better than what/who?? Do I read "American" in this? REgards Tom ---- Rich C wrote: ============= Robert, Make sure your son wears something that shows people he's Canadian; a maple leaf emblem on his collar, a Canadian flag pin, anything like that. It will make a huge difference in how much better he's treated throughout Europe and especially in France. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Healeys" Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] travelling assistance in France > Scenery is secondary. He's going to see a girl. > > > > LOL! If he does need to talk louder and use the hand gestures, I'll > request > that he put a US flag patch on to help your image. > > > > He should know 'some' French. He was in French immersion for 3 years, way > back when ... but he hasn't had much need to use it. One might think with > my > last name and that I grew up ... ( maybe that's not the right phrase? ) > ... > was born and raised in the province of Quebec that there might be some > French > language in me somewhere to pass down, but alas, no. > > Robert Duquette > Ottawa ON Canada Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net http://www.team.net/archive From bcrist at club-internet.fr Tue Dec 1 13:49:26 2009 From: bcrist at club-internet.fr (Bernard Cristalli) Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 21:49:26 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] travelling assistance in France In-Reply-To: <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3C4B482@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> References: <173126440911301444r79300c3eid2c107695fc89718@mail.gmail.com> <43849415FF3E4FD0B6F29F5F5A27B27D@GregPC> <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3C4B482@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> Message-ID: <4B158156.2030404@club-internet.fr> and you'll be "wie Gott in Franreich", (like god in France) isn't it Josef? B Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com a icrit : > Do not believe what was said here about French people. They are very > very nice. You just need to accept that they are superior to any other > human being on this earth (joking). They just do not want to show their > English is not as good as it should be to have a conversation. Show them > you are willing to speak some words of their language. Even you fail, > they see you had a try. Then they can be extremely helpful speaking with > hands and feet, asking others for you, and try to help you. > Just accept they are French and French people are very proud of their > own. Don't disturb that. Otherwise you loose. > > Josef Eckert > Konigswinter/GERMANY From tomfelts at windstream.net Tue Dec 1 13:43:56 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 15:43:56 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] travelling assistance in France In-Reply-To: <173126440912011138m57e8a568mc60a147441b46672@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20091201144356.KJIM7.1165265.root@ispmxfep13-z01> My experience as well---after about 5 times in Paris and travelling throughout France and Europe---and living in The Netherlands for 5 years and Turkey 1 year. I think it is how YOU treat people from any country, not where you are from. ---- I Erbs wrote: ============= just tell everyone you are Canadian.:) Actually, my wife and I had a wonderful time in Paris over the summer. We were worried about all of the horror stories we heard about being and American. The people could not have been nicer. I agree it helps that we tried to speak French, My wife far better than I, and yes we were polite. We had a wonderful time. Just expect to spend more money in 24 hours than you ever thought you would... On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Mr. Bill wrote: > Unless you want to be immediately identified as from the States, do not > wear white sneakers! > > Bill > Red Car > > > > A topic that's been skated around...better not to be thought to be from > the > > States/anti-American sentiment lingering in France etcetc? Well, were he > > from the States in the first place he'd still be unlucky to encounter > that. > > It's easy enough to find French who are not George Bush admirers but the > > great majority of them are polite, normal people on a one to one basis. > I'd > > not expect him to have any problems whatsoever - travel itinerary or > > socially. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- I Erbs Portland, OR Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net http://www.team.net/archive From rkorn at simnet.is Tue Dec 1 14:28:28 2009 From: rkorn at simnet.is (Richard Korn) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 21:28:28 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] 100 in Hemmings S&E References: <4B1554D8.4060201@comcast.net> Message-ID: <3CC88C85F0034027A6A3B59DA8E1C999@velad> Randy, It4s a great issue with your car ( beautiful)and the Speedwell Sprite. The only thing that stood out was that " Two-tone paint wasn4t available on the 1004s" :( Richard BN2 blue over white :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Hicks" To: "Kent McLean" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 in Hemmings S&E > You can see the full story here. Yes, it's me. :-) They got most of the > facts right! > > http://www.hemmings.com/hsx/stories/2009/12/01/hmn_feature1.html?GP=OTC-MJ175 > 2087487 > > Randy > > Randy Hicks > www.austinhealey100m.com > '56 100M > '55 BN1 Dealer LeMans > '62 BN7 MkII > '65 BJ8 > '53 MGTD > Healey100M at gmail.com > > > > > > > > On Dec 1, 2009, at 12:39 PM, Kent McLean wrote: > >> Did this make the list when I wasn't looking? >> >> >> >> -- >> Kent McLean >> '56 100 BN2 >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as healey100m at gmail.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as rkorn at simnet.is > > http://www.team.net/archive From qualitas.jack at gmail.com Tue Dec 1 15:44:37 2009 From: qualitas.jack at gmail.com (Jack Feldman) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 16:44:37 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Trailering/AAA Flatbed Danger Message-ID: <48720d20912011444r71b0b7dfg3897acc8d545c7ab@mail.gmail.com> Please note that I said BEWARE!. AAA does send good folks to move your car, but it is a crapshoot. If you remember, my experience to get the car to the shop was great. It was on the way back that I ran into a non caring, unskilled worker. Watching him did no good. I did watch him, and tried to explain that he needed some wood to make a ramp. He didn't have any, and didn't know what I was talking about. You still have to be lucky to get an AAA driver that knows what he is doing. Don't trust that the driver will know what he is doing, but be sure to be there to make sure he knows his job, and does it. When I initially called for a tow, I was cross examined by the person at AAA who wanted every detail about why the car needed a tow. They said that no company would not tow my car because they were afraid I would claim damage that they did not do. The company that AAA called, came was not afraid of the car, and did an outstanding job. Unfortunately, the closest to the shop my car was in, wasn't up to anything more than a routing tow. One experience doesn't negate all the good ones, or all the bad ones. You just have to treasure you car enough to be sure it is taken care of properly, and I don't think AAA really cares. From cnaarndt at gmail.com Tue Dec 1 15:58:05 2009 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 14:58:05 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] finish of gauge housing In-Reply-To: <71354409B38F4462911C5DB084CF5C6C@oscar> References: <20091130232000.UYBO7394.nschwotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com@rowe4323ef3cc5> <4B145B7D.7030307@sasktel.net> <000f01ca7272$92436910$b6ca3b30$@com> <4B151B1F.7060007@comcast.net> <4B152D2B.2080702@comcast.net> <71354409B38F4462911C5DB084CF5C6C@oscar> Message-ID: <751d05480912011458l6bde879fx28dd8881cd084d0d@mail.gmail.com> Listers, Margaret must be getting senile in her old age, but I know that the several sets of gauges for my 100 all had a thin zinc plating. Cheers, Curt On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 8:31 AM, Dave Porter wrote: > ..well, I spoke with Margaret at MoMa and she said they weren't plated at > all. Only painted on the inside. They have been using a Napa brand paint > (iron cast) to more or less duplicate the original external case color.. > I'm just the messenger... > dave > > frogeye at porterscustom.com > > Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE > Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 > 505-352-1378 > 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 > Porter Custom Bicycles > > cars: > www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html > gallery: > http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff > > blog: http://porterbikes.com/ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto: > healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Bob Spidell > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:50 AM > To: Rich C > Cc: 'Healeys List'; eric.frenken at brits-n-pieces.com > Subject: Re: [Healeys] finish of gauge housing > > Hi Rich, > > Agreed--seems too thin to be paint. But, it's too gray to be cadmium, > and too dark to be zinc, as far as I can tell. > > Anyone on a first name basis with Nisonger or MoMa that can ask them? > > bs > > > Rich C wrote: > > All that I have observed seem to have been a very dull greyish > > plating. I don't think it was paint. > > > > Rich Chrysler > > > > > -- > ******************************************************************* > Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net > > ******************************************************************* > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as frogeye at porterscustom.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as cnaarndt at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From richchrysler at quickclic.net Tue Dec 1 16:07:34 2009 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 18:07:34 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 4 Cyl Compression Measurement References: Message-ID: <8803886D7A004025B01DFF7C5390991D@LIFEBOOK> Jack, Just as an aside, as I understand it, standard pistons for the Hundred were 7.5 to 1 ratio. The Le Mans kit pistons were offered in 8.1 to 1 or 8.5 to1 Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Newton" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 1:05 PM Subject: [Healeys] 4 Cyl Compression Measurement > Do any of you list participants have a good estimate of the compression > readings (psi) that one should get on a 4 cyl rebuilt 100-4 BN-1engine > with > new rings, pistons, valves, etc. Engine is just assembled with no > break-in > miles so far. Pistons are std 8:1 ratio with no competition or > performance > mods. > TIA > Jack From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Dec 1 16:20:33 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 23:20:33 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Classic Motorsports calendar Message-ID: Is that anyone 'we' know in a blue over white 100 with Colorado License plates? The blurb mentions Arizona's Copperstate 1000. Looks familiar to me. Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen ) From glemon at neb.rr.com Tue Dec 1 16:56:21 2009 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 17:56:21 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] 4 Cyl Compression Measurement In-Reply-To: <8803886D7A004025B01DFF7C5390991D@LIFEBOOK> References: <8803886D7A004025B01DFF7C5390991D@LIFEBOOK> Message-ID: <01B961ADF37D4C33B04A660B47828304@GregPC> For what it is worth when I rebuilt my 100 engine with .060" over 8.5/1 pistons and Le Mans cam I got readings in the neighborhood of 165-170 psi across the four. At 8.0/1 I would assume you owuld be slightly lower but in the ballpark, I would think maybe in the 145-160 psi range with little variation from cylinder to cylinder (I forget what is considered acceptable 2-3%, or maybe 5 psi or so on a rebuilt motor?) would be in the ballpark. Greg Lemon From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Tue Dec 1 17:36:33 2009 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 16:36:33 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] '63 BJ8? In-Reply-To: <4B15386D.1060605@htcnet.org> References: , <4B15386D.1060605@htcnet.org> Message-ID: There seems to be a lot of Phase 1's out there. Maybe we should get our own registry. One book I have suggests only about 850 came to the US. Rich Kahn > Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 10:38:21 -0500 > From: javrugtman at htcnet.org > To: gstigen at msn.com; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] '63 BJ8? > > Early 64s. I bought and still own a 64 BJ8 Ph1 in spring of 64. > > John > BJ8s > > gene stigen wrote: > > Owning '63 BJ7&had '64 BJ7 phase 1&2,'65BJ8,still have very late '67 MK3 > > Phase2& early '53 100-4. Been driving, playing&working on them since '69,sorry > > there were no BJ8s in '63,didn't happen to best of my knowledge,some late > > '64s. cheers Geno > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tahoehealey at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Chat with Messenger straight from your Hotmail inbox. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/hotmail_bl1/hotmail_bl1.aspx?oci d=PID23879::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-ww:WM_IMHM_4:092009 From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Tue Dec 1 17:47:35 2009 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 16:47:35 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] '63 BJ8? In-Reply-To: <003501ca72ab$c1719160$4454b420$@rr.com> References: , <003501ca72ab$c1719160$4454b420$@rr.com> Message-ID: I'm trying to get the California black plates as a '63 cause the plate says 63. I cannot use it if it is a 64. I argued that YOM plates stand for year of manufacture not model year. They are considering it. American cars use to come out in September dated for the following year. We use to go to the Autorama every August to see what GM was coming out with for the following year. Rich Kahn > From: sbyers at ec.rr.com > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 12:28:53 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Healeys] '63 BJ8? > > Production of the Mark III (BJ8) began in October 1963. According to most > of the world, except for the USA, the "year" of a car is the calendar year > in which it was built. In the USA, the "new model year" begins in > September/October so that most cars (probably all) built in '63 and sold in > the USA would have been initially registered as '64s. > > According to Clausager, there were 0 Home market cars, 0 right-hand drive > export cars, 1 left-hand drive export car, and 343 left-hand drive North > American export BJ8s built in calendar year 1963. If any of those are > currently registered in non-USA countries, they are probably registered as > '63s. The BJ8 registry has plenty of examples of cars that were "1965s" in > the USA becoming "1964s" when they went back to Europe. > > The BJ8 registry has 10 cars claiming to be 1963s. All except one of them > are in Germany or The Netherlands. The exception is in Arizona. > > Interestingly, the BJ8 with the lowest chassis number (25315) was not built > until 20 - 23 January 1964. > > Steve Byers > HBJ8L/36666 > BJ8 Registry > Havelock, NC USA > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of gene stigen > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 9:26 AM > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] '63 BJ8? > > sorry > there were no BJ8s in '63,didn't happen to best of my knowledge,some late > '64s. cheers Geno > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tahoehealey at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Get gifts for them and cashback for you. Try Bing now. http://www.bing.com/shopping/search?q=xbox+games&scope=cashback&form=MSHYCB&p ubl=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MSHYCB_Shopping_Giftsforthem_cashback_1x1 From britishcars at shaw.ca Tue Dec 1 18:43:23 2009 From: britishcars at shaw.ca (PG) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 17:43:23 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Lowering a BJ8 Message-ID: <806sno$5gsvkd@pd7mo1no-svcs.prod.shaw.ca> To lower a phase 2 BJ8, it is common to put metal blocks between the axle and the springs. It gives a much nicer stance to the car..similar to a phase 1 BJ8. Does anybody know the thickness of the blocks used? I'm thinking of about 1" Paul From tomfelts at windstream.net Tue Dec 1 19:07:55 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 20:07:55 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Lowering a BJ8 In-Reply-To: <806sno$5gsvkd@pd7mo1no-svcs.prod.shaw.ca> Message-ID: <20091201200755.Z1PIO.1176551.root@ispmxfep12-z02> FWIF, I lowered mine by having the springs de-stressed by a commercial spring place. They wanted to know how much I wanted and I guessed at about 20%----the result was perfect for me. I do not like the high rear look of the P2 BJ8. tom ---- PG wrote: ============= To lower a phase 2 BJ8, it is common to put metal blocks between the axle and the springs. It gives a much nicer stance to the car..similar to a phase 1 BJ8. Does anybody know the thickness of the blocks used? I'm thinking of about 1" Paul Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net http://www.team.net/archive From frogeye at porterscustom.com Tue Dec 1 20:29:15 2009 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (Dave Porter) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 20:29:15 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Electrical problem diagnostics Message-ID: <15C39C35DF4141B394489DBAA9B6C72D@oscar> Members, Didn't intend to sound flippant, but Digital Multi Meters are pretty inexpensive and very handy for other household or business usage as well. Obviously, there is more than one way to skin a cat. If folks want to make their own tools or employ other methods I can't argue, been there done that. My point is when one introduces variables, such as home made testers, there are always doubts as to the results when the results are unexpected. YRMV in today's short hand. dave frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff blog: http://porterbikes.com/ From richard.ewald at gmail.com Tue Dec 1 20:46:25 2009 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 19:46:25 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] '63 BJ8? In-Reply-To: References: <003501ca72ab$c1719160$4454b420$@rr.com> Message-ID: ::: Sigh::: > The problem here is you need an older DMV clerk. > Before California went to the blue and yellow plates in 1968-69ish, all the > plates in the state were the same color and were turned in for a new set of > plates when the number/letter combo ran out. > In 1956 the plates were yellow with black numbers. The plates were > embossed with the number 56 in one of the license tab wells. All the cars > issued these plates got a plate embossed with a 56 regardless of the year > they were issued. So if you bought a brand new 1962 car, it would get a > yellow and black plate embossed 56. The 56 just represented the first year > the plate was issued NOT the year of the car. > In 1963 as was the practice back then the state had run out of letter > /number combos and everybody in the state got to go to the DMV and turn in > their old plate and get a new black and yellow plate. ( I am old enough to > remember the lines AROUND the block as my dad drove by the DMV.) > So if in 1963 you owned a 1957 car you would turn in your yellow/black > plates embossed 56 for a set of black with yellow number plates embossed 63. > The black with yellow number plates were continued to be issued with the > embossed 63 until the state went to the blue with yellow numbers. > By this time, the DMV had wised up and realized that bringing in every car > owner in the state to issue new plates was a huge drain on manpower, and the > public hated it also, so from then on, a plate stayed good. > If you have a buddy that has a non 1963 black plate car that is currently > registered in California, you can prove this to the DMV by taking a close up > photograph of the front license plate which will show the embossed 63. they > can run the plate on their computer and see it is a (65, 67, 56 whatever) > Perhaps one of the listers has a black plate car and can help you out. > FWIW I had a 1967 MGB with a black plate and yes it was embossed 63. > I hope this helps you in your quest. > Also don't be afraid to try a different DMV. You can often get a different > answer from another branch. > Good luck > Rick > > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Richard Kahn wrote: > >> I'm trying to get the California black plates as a '63 cause the plate >> says >> 63. I cannot use it if it is a 64. From f.ronald.rader at gmail.com Tue Dec 1 21:02:48 2009 From: f.ronald.rader at gmail.com (F Ronald Rader) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 20:02:48 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] more YOM Message-ID: <5caeedb50912012002y476e845r80c43dad6878d646@mail.gmail.com> i have black '63 plates (with the proper decal) on my 65, 66, 67 cars. ron On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Richard Kahn wrote: > I'm trying to get the California black plates as a '63 cause the plate says > 63. I cannot use it if it is a 64. I argued that YOM plates stand for year > of > manufacture not model year. They are considering it. American cars use to > come out in September dated for the following year. We use to go to the > Autorama every August to see what GM was coming out with for the following > year. > Rich Kahn From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Tue Dec 1 21:08:48 2009 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 04:08:48 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?france?= Message-ID: <20091202040848.22435.qmail@server278.com> well, i for one am proud to be an american and spent 27 years of my life defending our way of life. when travelling i always try to avoid france. if i have to go there, i plan to wear white tennis shoes, a do-rag on my head, some body piercings and maybe a few really nasty tattooes. that'll show 'em. hjim From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Tue Dec 1 21:12:43 2009 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 04:12:43 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?early_friday_funnies?= Message-ID: <20091202041243.27291.qmail@server278.com> what is the difference between a golf ball and a car? tiger woods can drive a golf ball 400 yards. From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Dec 1 21:50:01 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 12:50:01 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] early friday funnies In-Reply-To: <20091202041243.27291.qmail@server278.com> References: <20091202041243.27291.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: If you want the truth of what happened, you have to watch this Chinese video, esp. the second part. It is very helpful: http://trueslant.com/jonpyle/2009/12/01/the-definitive-tiger-woods-video/ Wish we had news like this in the west. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:12 PM, wrote: > what is the difference between a golf ball and a car? > > tiger woods can drive a golf ball 400 yards. From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Tue Dec 1 23:29:42 2009 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 07:29:42 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] travelling assistance in France In-Reply-To: <4B158156.2030404@club-internet.fr> References: <173126440911301444r79300c3eid2c107695fc89718@mail.gmail.com><43849415FF3E4FD0B6F29F5F5A27B27D@GregPC><6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3C4B482@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> <4B158156.2030404@club-internet.fr> Message-ID: <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3C4B496@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> Bernhard, Yes, that's what we say here. But the origin of it is, we say "Leben wie Gott in Frankreich" (To live like God in France), which means you can really enjoy your stay and have good food, good wine, and all the comfort God may enjoy. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/GERMANY -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Bernard Cristalli Gesendet: Dienstag, 1. Dezember 2009 21:49 An: Healey List Betreff: Re: [Healeys] travelling assistance in France and you'll be "wie Gott in Franreich", (like god in France) isn't it Josef? B Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com a icrit : > Do not believe what was said here about French people. They are very > very nice. You just need to accept that they are superior to any other > human being on this earth (joking). They just do not want to show > their English is not as good as it should be to have a conversation. > Show them you are willing to speak some words of their language. Even > you fail, they see you had a try. Then they can be extremely helpful > speaking with hands and feet, asking others for you, and try to help you. > Just accept they are French and French people are very proud of their > own. Don't disturb that. Otherwise you loose. > > Josef Eckert > Konigswinter/GERMANY From bcrist at club-internet.fr Tue Dec 1 23:30:59 2009 From: bcrist at club-internet.fr (Bernard Cristalli) Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 07:30:59 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] france In-Reply-To: <20091202040848.22435.qmail@server278.com> References: <20091202040848.22435.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: <4B1609A3.4080501@club-internet.fr> French lay people just love Americans. La Fayette, WWI and D-day in june 44 are deeply rooted in our minds. What the French dislike (sometimes) is the decisions of US gvt. healeymanjim at hansencc.net a icrit : > well, i for one am proud to be an american and spent 27 years of my life defending our way of life. when travelling i always try to avoid france. if i have to go there, i plan to wear white tennis shoes, a do-rag on my head, some body piercings and maybe a few really nasty tattooes. that'll show 'em. hjim From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Tue Dec 1 23:34:55 2009 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 07:34:55 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] france In-Reply-To: <20091202040848.22435.qmail@server278.com> References: <20091202040848.22435.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3C4B497@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> Does it help? I would rather enjoy my live. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/GERMANY -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von healeymanjim at hansencc.net Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Dezember 2009 05:09 An: healeys at autox.team.net Betreff: [Healeys] france well, i for one am proud to be an american and spent 27 years of my life defending our way of life. when travelling i always try to avoid france. if i have to go there, i plan to wear white tennis shoes, a do-rag on my head, some body piercings and maybe a few really nasty tattooes. that'll show 'em. hjim ___________________________________________ From f.ronald.rader at gmail.com Wed Dec 2 00:39:22 2009 From: f.ronald.rader at gmail.com (F Ronald Rader) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 23:39:22 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] france In-Reply-To: <4B1609A3.4080501@club-internet.fr> References: <20091202040848.22435.qmail@server278.com> <4B1609A3.4080501@club-internet.fr> Message-ID: <5caeedb50912012339q5d91dfd3g4346114d8dcc53b4@mail.gmail.com> my experience as well and I will test the theory again next may ron On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Bernard Cristalli wrote: > French lay people just love Americans. > La Fayette, WWI and D-day in june 44 are deeply rooted in our minds. > What the French dislike (sometimes) is the decisions of US gvt. From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Dec 2 02:53:31 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 17:53:31 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] france In-Reply-To: <4B1609A3.4080501@club-internet.fr> References: <20091202040848.22435.qmail@server278.com> <4B1609A3.4080501@club-internet.fr> Message-ID: All - What Americans often misunderstand about France is they think the attitude is directed at them because they are American. That is completely false. Many of the offending French use the same attitude with everyone, including themselves. French from Paris, Burgundy and Provence all look down on each other. I guess if you are from Brittany you get the short end of the stick. That being said, many of the French I have dealt with in the country are absolutely wonderful. Strangely enough, my grandfather, who fought in the trenches in France in the Great War, forbid my father from fighting in Europe in WWII because of how he was treated in France in 1918, so my father signed up for Pacific duty in 1943. Ma father stayed in Asia and later met my mom in Taiwan in the 50's (who is Chinese) so if it wasn't for French arrogance, I would not exist. Therefore, I will always be forever grateful to the French for offending my Grandfather in 1918. Vive La France! Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Bernard Cristalli wrote: > French lay people just love Americans. > La Fayette, WWI and D-day in june 44 are deeply rooted in our minds. > What the French dislike (sometimes) is the decisions of US gvt. > > > healeymanjim at hansencc.net a icrit : > > well, i for one am proud to be an american and spent 27 years of my life >> defending our way of life. when travelling i always try to avoid france. >> if i have to go there, i plan to wear white tennis shoes, a do-rag on my >> head, some body piercings and maybe a few really nasty tattooes. that'll >> show 'em. hjim >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Dec 2 02:59:49 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 17:59:49 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] travelling assistance in France In-Reply-To: References: <173126440911301444r79300c3eid2c107695fc89718@mail.gmail.com> <43849415FF3E4FD0B6F29F5F5A27B27D@GregPC> Message-ID: Robert - I had a lovely French aristocrat for a girlfried when I was living in Vietnam in 1995. I fully support this sort of travel, but I didn't speak any French. Incidentally, whenever I am in a foriegn land and am drunk and completely abusive to everyone else, I let everyone know that "I'M FROM CANADA!!" I suggest all Americans repeat this particular phrase often when being rude, it is very effective for our country's image. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:53 PM, wrote: > Scenery is secondary. He's going to see a girl. > > > > LOL! If he does need to talk louder and use the hand gestures, I'll > request > that he put a US flag patch on to help your image. > > > > He should know 'some' French. He was in French immersion for 3 years, way > back when ... but he hasn't had much need to use it. One might think with > my > last name and that I grew up ... ( maybe that's not the right phrase? ) ... > was born and raised in the province of Quebec that there might be some > French > language in me somewhere to pass down, but alas, no. > > Robert Duquette > Ottawa ON Canada From tomfelts at windstream.net Wed Dec 2 06:15:08 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 7:15:08 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] france In-Reply-To: <20091202040848.22435.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: <20091202071508.PLTX0.1209778.root@ispmxfep11-z01> I spent 12 years of my life defending my country and I love visiting France. I find the people warm and friendly, not to mention the beautiful countryside and food. tom ---- healeymanjim at hansencc.net wrote: ============= well, i for one am proud to be an american and spent 27 years of my life defending our way of life. when travelling i always try to avoid france. if i have to go there, i plan to wear white tennis shoes, a do-rag on my head, some body piercings and maybe a few really nasty tattooes. that'll show 'em. hjim Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net http://www.team.net/archive From bj8Healey at msn.com Wed Dec 2 07:19:13 2009 From: bj8Healey at msn.com (James Sailer) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 07:19:13 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Subject: Lowering a BJ8 Message-ID: Attached a few photos of my BJ8 with 1/4 inch spacer and in conjunction with conversion to tube shocks (both from Cape International), which as I recall lowered it an additional 1/4 inch. I resulted with a relatively uniform gap all the way around the wheel arch. 1" I believe would be too low. >From what David Nock recently told me, BT7 front springs will lower the front some; which I plan to explore more. James Sailer 66 BJ8 ><((((:> ><((((:> `7.88.74/`7.8.74/`7... ><((((:> ><((((:> ><((((:> ><((((:> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of JimS_002.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of JimS-003.jpg] From simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk Wed Dec 2 07:51:40 2009 From: simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk (Simon Lachlan) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 14:51:40 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] 100-4, Atlantic diff on UK eBay Message-ID: <001101ca735e$f5149f90$df3ddeb0$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> 260513043674 Simon From simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk Wed Dec 2 07:56:08 2009 From: simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk (Simon Lachlan) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 14:56:08 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] 100-4 head on UK eBay Message-ID: <001201ca735f$95422d70$bfc68850$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> 260513056100 I don't know if it's the right one and, as I have a 3000, I'm only posting this for others' interest. Simon From coudesluijs at chello.nl Wed Dec 2 08:03:26 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:03:26 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] france In-Reply-To: <20091202071508.PLTX0.1209778.root@ispmxfep11-z01> References: <20091202071508.PLTX0.1209778.root@ispmxfep11-z01> Message-ID: <4B1681BE.5080802@chello.nl> I travel to France between 5 and 10 times a year to visit relatives, for holidays and for work. I have visited this country for over 50 years and my first serious girlfriend was French. The people are generally very nice and helpfull (as in any country really) but often very formal in the beginning and they do appreciate good manners (who does not) and proper clothing. Waiters in Paris can be gruff, but it is part of the Paris experience. Official meetings and conferences with the French generally is a cause for trouble, but that is equally true with Brits and Germans. They simply hate compromises and fight to the end to have it their way, so nothing gets done in the end. It is the best holiday country in the world I know. You have everything: second to none touristic information in any town, stunning scenery of all kinds, perfect beaches, rolling countryside, high mountains, wintersports, moutaineering, rafting, beautifull cities and villages, castles, musea (do not miss the Bugatti museum and associated railway museum in Mulhouse or the car museum in the Imperial Palace in Compiegne just north of Paris), loads of history everywhere, good weather, perfect roads for relaxed driving in classics (avoid the motorways, boring as hell), extremely good medical services for all, good public transport, perfect wines and food (from $15-20 for a simple 3-course meal), good small and simple hotels (e.g. Logis de France) everywhere in the country for very reasonable prices, often with a perfect restaurant, shops for the missus to go wild, theatre, concerts etc. etc. That I speak the language reasonably well does help though. I am lucky as Paris is only a 4 hour drive from where I live. Kees Oudesluijs NL From steveg at abrazosdata.com Wed Dec 2 08:48:07 2009 From: steveg at abrazosdata.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Steve=20B.=20Gerow?=) Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 07:48:07 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?Lowering_a_BJ8_-_Cape_shocks?= Message-ID: <20091202154807.19004.qmail@hoster902.com> James Sailer wrote: > ...and in conjunction with >conversion to tube shocks (both from Cape International), which as I recall >lowered it an additional 1/4 inch. Jim, I'm running the Cape rear tube shock kit and it lowers the car via the use of insufficient travel on the rear shocks. When I installed mine, with the car on stands, the rear axle didn't rest against the rubber pads on the frame rails. The shocks limited the rebound travel. Obviously this problem would be exacerbated on the BJ8 with its longer rear suspension travel. The Cape lower mounts consist of an approximately 1/4" thick plate which sandwiches between the spring and lower spring plate. This has a stud extending from it which is the lower shock mount itself. After driving, both lower shock mounts bent upward and the one on the passenger side is cracked halfway through. At some point I plan on replacing Cape's rear shocks with longer-travelling SPAX units and repairing the lower plates. I've found Cape to be communicative for Sales but not for Service. -- Steve Gerow BN6 with Cape rear shocks From buhler at memphisassociates.com Wed Dec 2 08:48:27 2009 From: buhler at memphisassociates.com (Jon Buhler) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 10:48:27 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] HD8 Carb. Question Message-ID: <6a02a52456af4d66872a7488f0fa1839@memphisassociates.com> Is there any way to extend the adjustment of the Jet adjusting screw. The screws have bottomed out but I still need just a little more enrichment to get the carbs to perform when the pistons are lifted. Thanks for your help. Jon From ah at jharper.demon.co.uk Wed Dec 2 09:09:56 2009 From: ah at jharper.demon.co.uk (John Harper) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 16:09:56 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] 100-4, Atlantic diff on UK eBay In-Reply-To: <001101ca735e$f5149f90$df3ddeb0$@lachlan> References: <001101ca735e$f5149f90$df3ddeb0$@lachlan> Message-ID: Anybody interested in this needs to check with the seller the ratio. If 33/8 (4.125:1) then not very rare and virtually the same as an early BN1 However if 33/9 (3.667:1) then rare and valuable and does for the BN1 what the 3.454:1 does for later cars. Well worth it for long distance driving and economy. However the speedometer will then need changing or re-calibrating. Regards >260513043674 > >Simon -- John Harper From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 2 09:58:20 2009 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 08:58:20 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] HD8 Carb. Question In-Reply-To: <6a02a52456af4d66872a7488f0fa1839@memphisassociates.com> References: <6a02a52456af4d66872a7488f0fa1839@memphisassociates.com> Message-ID: Then you must have another problem. Ignition timing, float level low, fuel volume, cam timing, vacuum leaks David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Dec 2, 2009, at 7:48 AM, Jon Buhler wrote: > Is there any way to extend the adjustment of the Jet adjusting > screw. The > screws have bottomed out but I still need just a little more > enrichment to > get the carbs to perform when the pistons are lifted. Thanks for > your help. > Jon > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From jstmorris at yahoo.com Wed Dec 2 10:11:39 2009 From: jstmorris at yahoo.com (J. Scott Morris) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 09:11:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Hugh Sutherland not well Message-ID: <584336.73098.qm@web30302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Good Day; I have just received word, via the Lotus Club of Canada, that Hugh Sutherland has inoperable cancer of the lower bowel and liver. He is in North York General Hospital in Room 364, phone 416-756-6000 Ext.2364, and is waiting to be transferred from the hospital to a palliative care centre. If you feel like giving him a phone call, evidently that is alright with Hugh. Please bear in mind that Hugh will be moved in the near future and the telephone number will change. --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada J. Scott Morris - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. From e-wilkins at cox.net Wed Dec 2 10:16:01 2009 From: e-wilkins at cox.net (Eric (Rick) Wilkins) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 09:16:01 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] HD8 Carb. Question In-Reply-To: <6a02a52456af4d66872a7488f0fa1839@memphisassociates.com> References: <6a02a52456af4d66872a7488f0fa1839@memphisassociates.com> Message-ID: <222E55D0-5A86-4A4E-8B55-C4D1F868346F@cox.net> What you want to do is make sure the carbs are in good shape. The only scenario that a common Healey would have in not getting rich enough is an air leak. If you just want to get richer, change needles. BTW: your choke control should get it plenty rich. Wilko On Dec 2, 2009, at 7:48 AM, Jon Buhler wrote: > Is there any way to extend the adjustment of the Jet adjusting > screw. The > screws have bottomed out but I still need just a little more > enrichment to > get the carbs to perform when the pistons are lifted. Thanks for > your help. > Jon > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as e-wilkins at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From bspidell at comcast.net Wed Dec 2 10:54:21 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 17:54:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] HD8 Carb. Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1828956561.8598321259776461333.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Are the needles correctly positioned in the vacuum piston? My guess is float level. bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA Then you must have another problem. Ignition timing, float level low, fuel volume, cam timing, vacuum leaks David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com On Dec 2, 2009, at 7:48 AM, Jon Buhler wrote: > Is there any way to extend the adjustment of the Jet adjusting > screw. The > screws have bottomed out but I still need just a little more > enrichment to > get the carbs to perform when the pistons are lifted. Thanks for > your help. > Jon From ah at jharper.demon.co.uk Wed Dec 2 10:54:25 2009 From: ah at jharper.demon.co.uk (John Harper) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 17:54:25 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] 100-4 head on UK eBay In-Reply-To: <001201ca735f$95422d70$bfc68850$@lachlan> References: <001201ca735f$95422d70$bfc68850$@lachlan> Message-ID: I am sorry to have to say this but this is not an original A-H 100, A70 or A90 Atlantic head. The give away is that it has the three stud thermostat housing of a later 2.2 or 2.5 litre engine. It quite likely came off an Austin Gypsy but could also have been another BMC vehicle fitted with a four cylinder petrol engine around that time. It could be used in emergency on a 100 and I know of a handful of owners who have taken this route. These later heads appear to be less crack prone but you will need a different thermostat housing. One from a later Rover Metro can be made to fit. Compression Ratio is still about the same but with smaller inlet valves the engine appears to run less smooth but not so as to be annoying. Regards >260513056100 > >I don't know if it's the right one and, as I have a 3000, I'm only posting >this for others' interest. >Simon -- John Harper From coudesluijs at chello.nl Wed Dec 2 11:02:16 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 19:02:16 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] HD8 Carb. Question In-Reply-To: <6a02a52456af4d66872a7488f0fa1839@memphisassociates.com> References: <6a02a52456af4d66872a7488f0fa1839@memphisassociates.com> Message-ID: <4B16ABA8.8040109@chello.nl> If you cannot get a richer mixture with an SU something is amiss. False air, wrong jet, wrong needle, wrong spring, wrong fuel level, wrong (heavy) oil in damper. Before playing around with the carbs make sure that valve clearances, valve timing, ingnition timing are spot on. If these are off you will get the wrong readings. Kees Oudesluijs NL Jon Buhler schreef: > Is there any way to extend the adjustment of the Jet adjusting screw. The > screws have bottomed out but I still need just a little more enrichment to > get the carbs to perform when the pistons are lifted. Thanks for your help. > Jon From bighealey3k at aim.com Wed Dec 2 11:10:39 2009 From: bighealey3k at aim.com (bighealey3k at aim.com) Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 13:10:39 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Maybe of interest to the list: Dangerous Tires Video In-Reply-To: <8CC40FE665BD50F-192C-E7E8@webmail-m061.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC40FE665BD50F-192C-E7E8@webmail-m061.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CC4191E3A32F0E-3758-7A14@webmail-d059.sysops.aol.com> This is by ABC news about aged tires. THIS VIDEO IS WORTH THE WATCH. PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO SEE IT. COULD SAVE YOUR LIFE. AND .... CHECK YOUR TIRES OR HAVE THEM CHECKED. There is a 30 sec. commercial at first ---- and then the video. The video is well worth watching. Please watch until the end, Because some of the most important stuff you need to hear and see are past the middle of the segment. It could save your life or that of someone you love. http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4826897 Larry Wendland '67 BJ8 = From coll44 at msn.com Wed Dec 2 12:01:04 2009 From: coll44 at msn.com (TERRY COLL) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 14:01:04 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 4 Cyl Compression Measurement In-Reply-To: <01B961ADF37D4C33B04A660B47828304@GregPC> References: , <8803886D7A004025B01DFF7C5390991D@LIFEBOOK>, <01B961ADF37D4C33B04A660B47828304@GregPC> Message-ID: Sorry, but I'm not following the math here. Atmospheric pressure is 14.7 psi (at sea level) so a compression ratio of 8.5 should yeild appx. 125 psi. Assuming I'm missing something, can anyone splain what it is? Terry Coll '64 BJ8 > From: glemon at neb.rr.com > To: jmnewt at comcast.net; healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 17:56:21 -0600 > Subject: Re: [Healeys] 4 Cyl Compression Measurement > > For what it is worth when I rebuilt my 100 engine with .060" over 8.5/1 > pistons and Le Mans cam I got readings in the neighborhood of 165-170 psi > across the four. > > At 8.0/1 I would assume you owuld be slightly lower but in the ballpark, I > would think maybe in the 145-160 psi range with little variation from > cylinder to cylinder (I forget what is considered acceptable 2-3%, or maybe > 5 psi or so on a rebuilt motor?) would be in the ballpark. > > Greg Lemon > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coll44 at msn.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail gives you a free,exclusive gift. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/hotmail_bl1/hotmail_bl1.aspx?oci d=PID23879::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-ww:WM_IMHM_7:092009 From Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com Wed Dec 2 12:29:42 2009 From: Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 11:29:42 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] HD8 Carb. Question In-Reply-To: <6a02a52456af4d66872a7488f0fa1839@memphisassociates.com> References: <6a02a52456af4d66872a7488f0fa1839@memphisassociates.com> Message-ID: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D0342005F@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> Jon, Something related could well be out of whack as others suggested, but if these are brand new Burlen made carbs, you will find casting flaws that prevent as much travel as on a 60's era BJ8. Ken Freese From bcrist at club-internet.fr Wed Dec 2 12:38:03 2009 From: bcrist at club-internet.fr (Bernard Cristalli) Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 20:38:03 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] france In-Reply-To: <4B1681BE.5080802@chello.nl> References: <20091202071508.PLTX0.1209778.root@ispmxfep11-z01> <4B1681BE.5080802@chello.nl> Message-ID: <4B16C21B.7000001@club-internet.fr> What else could I say ? Bernard, Paris, France Oudesluys a icrit : > I travel to France between 5 and 10 times a year to visit relatives, > for holidays and for work. I have visited this country for over 50 > years and my first serious girlfriend was French. > > The people are generally very nice and helpfull (as in any country > really) but often very formal in the beginning and they do appreciate > good manners (who does not) and proper clothing. Waiters in Paris can > be gruff, but it is part of the Paris experience. > > Official meetings and conferences with the French generally is a cause > for trouble, but that is equally true with Brits and Germans. They > simply hate compromises and fight to the end to have it their way, so > nothing gets done in the end. > > It is the best holiday country in the world I know. You have > everything: second to none touristic information in any town, stunning > scenery of all kinds, perfect beaches, rolling countryside, high > mountains, wintersports, moutaineering, rafting, beautifull cities and > villages, castles, musea (do not miss the Bugatti museum and > associated railway museum in Mulhouse or the car museum in the > Imperial Palace in Compiegne just north of Paris), loads of history > everywhere, good weather, perfect roads for relaxed driving in > classics (avoid the motorways, boring as hell), extremely good medical > services for all, good public transport, perfect wines and food (from > $15-20 for a simple 3-course meal), good small and simple hotels (e.g. > Logis de France) everywhere in the country for very reasonable prices, > often with a perfect restaurant, shops for the missus to go wild, > theatre, concerts etc. etc. > > That I speak the language reasonably well does help though. > I am lucky as Paris is only a 4 hour drive from where I live. > > Kees Oudesluijs > NL > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as bcrist at club-internet.fr > > http://www.team.net/archive From bspidell at comcast.net Wed Dec 2 13:16:10 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 20:16:10 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] 4 Cyl Compression Measurement In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <686080733.8669081259784970054.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Compressing a gas causes it to heat and (try to) expand, raising pressure beyond nominal. There are formulas for computing the total compression, but I'm to lazy to google it right now. bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA Sorry, but I'm not following the math here. Atmospheric pressure is 14.7 psi (at sea level) so a compression ratio of 8.5 should yeild appx. 125 psi. Assuming I'm missing something, can anyone splain what it is? From bspidell at comcast.net Wed Dec 2 14:26:42 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 21:26:42 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] 4 Cyl Compression Measurement In-Reply-To: <686080733.8669081259784970054.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <481268393.8703281259789202472.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Found a link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compression_ratio Look at: " Fault finding and diagnosis" bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA Compressing a gas causes it to heat and (try to) expand, raising pressure beyond nominal. There are formulas for computing the total compression, but I'm to lazy to google it right now. bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA Sorry, but I'm not following the math here. Atmospheric pressure is 14.7 psi (at sea level) so a compression ratio of 8.5 should yeild appx. 125 psi. Assuming I'm missing something, can anyone splain what it is? From coudesluijs at chello.nl Wed Dec 2 15:28:25 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 23:28:25 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] 4 Cyl Compression Measurement In-Reply-To: <481268393.8703281259789202472.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <481268393.8703281259789202472.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4B16EA09.30201@chello.nl> Allthough there are ways to compute the final pressure, it is very complicated and probably not very accurate. You have to take into account pressure loss through leakage, heat exchange air/cilinder/piston, engine and ambient temperature, cranking speed, valve timing and overlap etc. Most important is that all cilinders show the same pressure within ca. 5% of each other and that there is no significant oil burning or crankcase pressure. Kees Oudesluijs NL Bob Spidell schreef: > Found a link: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compression_ratio > > Look at: " Fault finding and diagnosis" > > > bs > -------------------------------- > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > > > Compressing a gas causes it to heat and (try to) expand, raising pressure beyond nominal. > > There are formulas for computing the total compression, but I'm to lazy to google it right now. > > > bs > > -------------------------------- > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > > > > Sorry, but I'm not following the math here. Atmospheric pressure is 14.7 psi > (at sea level) so a compression ratio of 8.5 should yeild appx. 125 psi. > Assuming I'm missing something, can anyone splain what it is? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive From richard.ewald at gmail.com Wed Dec 2 15:37:35 2009 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 14:37:35 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 4 Cyl Compression Measurement In-Reply-To: <481268393.8703281259789202472.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <686080733.8669081259784970054.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <481268393.8703281259789202472.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Don't forget that everyone assumes their compression gauge is accurate. The truth is it could be off by who knows how many PSI. I've seen two gauges disagree on the same engine by more than 20lbs. With that in mind, I am more interested in how even the readings are from hole to hole than I am in the absolute number. Rick On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: > Found a link: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compression_ratio > > Look at: " Fault finding and diagnosis" > > > bs > -------------------------------- > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > > > Compressing a gas causes it to heat and (try to) expand, raising pressure > beyond nominal. > > There are formulas for computing the total compression, but I'm to lazy to > google it right now. > > > bs > > -------------------------------- > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > > > > Sorry, but I'm not following the math here. Atmospheric pressure is 14.7 > psi > (at sea level) so a compression ratio of 8.5 should yeild appx. 125 psi. > Assuming I'm missing something, can anyone splain what it is? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richard.ewald at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From bspidell at comcast.net Wed Dec 2 15:39:54 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 22:39:54 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] 4 Cyl Compression Measurement In-Reply-To: <4B16EA09.30201@chello.nl> Message-ID: <1188387808.8741401259793594640.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> True, but the original question was '... compression ratio of 8.5 should yeild appx. 125 psi ...' The short answer is 'Ideal Gas Law.' bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA Allthough there are ways to compute the final pressure, it is very complicated and probably not very accurate. You have to take into account pressure loss through leakage, heat exchange air/cilinder/piston, engine and ambient temperature, cranking speed, valve timing and overlap etc. Most important is that all cilinders show the same pressure within ca. 5% of each other and that there is no significant oil burning or crankcase pressure. Kees Oudesluijs NL Bob Spidell schreef: > Found a link: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compression_ratio > > Look at: " Fault finding and diagnosis" > > > bs > -------------------------------- > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > > > Compressing a gas causes it to heat and (try to) expand, raising pressure beyond nominal. > > There are formulas for computing the total compression, but I'm to lazy to google it right now. > > > bs > > -------------------------------- > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > > > > Sorry, but I'm not following the math here. Atmospheric pressure is 14.7 psi > (at sea level) so a compression ratio of 8.5 should yeild appx. 125 psi. > Assuming I'm missing something, can anyone splain what it is? From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Dec 2 18:26:10 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 09:26:10 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] france In-Reply-To: <4B16C21B.7000001@club-internet.fr> References: <20091202071508.PLTX0.1209778.root@ispmxfep11-z01> <4B1681BE.5080802@chello.nl> <4B16C21B.7000001@club-internet.fr> Message-ID: Bernard - You have to understand many American men have "hang ups" with the French because your countrymen are always good at romancing our women! By the way, I spent my honeymoon in Cote d'azure... loved it (except for the angry union workers in my hotel in Nice!!). I am tempted to move my 100 to France so that I have something to drive there when I visit! One of the greatest countries in the world for classic car driving. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 3:38 AM, Bernard Cristalli wrote: > What else could I say ? > Bernard, Paris, France From dan at warner-associates.com Wed Dec 2 18:41:39 2009 From: dan at warner-associates.com (Dan Stromquist) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 19:41:39 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Longstone Tyres Message-ID: I am considering placing an order with Longstone Classic Tyres out of the UK. Has anyone had any experience with them and would care to comment. Dan From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Dec 2 19:29:34 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 10:29:34 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Longstone Tyres In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dan - I have ordered from them several times. Very professional and fast. Shipping fees very reasonable (I don't know how they do it). I get my tires from them in the UK to HK in three days. They have tires no one else has, and they even do special runs with many of the European tire manufacturers for oddball sizes, like the 5.50x16 Michelin radials I have on my A90. No one else in the world has them. Also if you need tubes, get them from them. They have proper reinforced michelin tubes for use in radials. Highly recommended. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Dan Stromquist wrote: > I am considering placing an order with Longstone Classic Tyres out of the > UK. Has anyone had any experience with them and would care to comment. > > Dan > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From 63ahbj7 at comcast.net Thu Dec 3 03:26:48 2009 From: 63ahbj7 at comcast.net (63ahbj7) Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 04:26:48 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Interesting old car pictures Message-ID: <4B179268.6020506@comcast.net> From a NJ Spridgeteer !!!!! 1900 into the 1940s http://mred-old-cars.blogspot.com/ This is VERY KOOL !!!!!!! So ENJOY !!! Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Dec 3 04:37:10 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 19:37:10 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Interesting old car pictures In-Reply-To: <4B179268.6020506@comcast.net> References: <4B179268.6020506@comcast.net> Message-ID: How about this old car pic? http://www.leblogauto.com/wpg2/?g2_itemId=163986 Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 6:26 PM, 63ahbj7 <63ahbj7 at comcast.net> wrote: > From a NJ Spridgeteer !!!!! > > > 1900 into the 1940s > > http://mred-old-cars.blogspot.com/ > > > This is VERY KOOL !!!!!!! So ENJOY !!! > > Ed > Please visit MY site at: > www.justbrits.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Dec 3 04:39:32 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 19:39:32 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] AH 4000 Message-ID: I stumbled across this fun little french drawing of the AH 4000: http://bp0.blogger.com/_R5VJQ2XQscA/SGCpTCl205I/AAAAAAAAARs/qCPfT6zR7qY/s1600-h/cabriolet+1.png So chic! Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 From austin.healey at gmail.com Thu Dec 3 05:03:21 2009 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 23:03:21 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] 4 Cyl Compression Measurement In-Reply-To: <4B16EA09.30201@chello.nl> References: <481268393.8703281259789202472.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <4B16EA09.30201@chello.nl> Message-ID: I totally agree with Kees "Most important is that all cilinders show the same pressure within ca. 5% of each other and that there is no significant oil burning or crankcase pressure." Forget the number - look at the variance between the numbers, and look for the visible signals of wear - exactly what Kees said. A Healey engine is made of 4 or 6 cylinders, which should all be operating the same. The critical issue is making each cylinder to be operating identically . Identical height pistons, identical combustion chamber volumes per cylinder, identical cam lift etc and so on. Why do you think balancing is so important in any performance reciprocating internal combustion engine? Once you start playing with high compression engines, with huge valve overlaps, you'll realise how little the actual compression guage numbers mean on their own at starter motor/ idle rpm. The goal is as close to identical as humanly possible. Not a specific number. Chris www.myaustinhealey.com Sent from my iPhone On 03/12/2009, at 9:28 AM, Oudesluys wrote: > Allthough there are ways to compute the final pressure, it is very > complicated and probably not very accurate. > You have to take into account pressure loss through leakage, heat > exchange air/cilinder/piston, engine and ambient temperature, > cranking speed, valve timing and overlap etc. > Most important is that all cilinders show the same pressure within > ca. 5% of each other and that there is no significant oil burning or > crankcase pressure. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL > > Bob Spidell schreef: >> Found a link: >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compression_ratio >> Look at: " Fault finding and diagnosis" >> >> bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA >> >> Compressing a gas causes it to heat and (try to) expand, raising >> pressure beyond nominal. >> There are formulas for computing the total compression, but I'm to >> lazy to google it right now. >> >> bs >> -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA >> >> >> Sorry, but I'm not following the math here. Atmospheric pressure is >> 14.7 psi (at sea level) so a compression ratio of 8.5 should yeild >> appx. 125 psi. Assuming I'm missing something, can anyone splain >> what it is? From coudesluijs at chello.nl Thu Dec 3 05:48:13 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 13:48:13 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Interesting old car pictures In-Reply-To: References: <4B179268.6020506@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4B17B38D.5020909@chello.nl> Hard to choose, depending on your age. Kees Oudesluijs Alan Seigrist schreef: > How about this old car pic? > > http://www.leblogauto.com/wpg2/?g2_itemId=163986 > > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '59 Jag Mk IX > '64 BJ8 > > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 6:26 PM, 63ahbj7 <63ahbj7 at comcast.net> wrote: > > >> From a NJ Spridgeteer !!!!! >> >> >> 1900 into the 1940s >> >> http://mred-old-cars.blogspot.com/ >> >> >> This is VERY KOOL !!!!!!! So ENJOY !!! >> >> Ed >> Please visit MY site at: >> www.justbrits.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Dec 3 06:47:33 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 05:47:33 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 4 Cyl Compression Measurement In-Reply-To: References: <481268393.8703281259789202472.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <4B16EA09.30201@chello.nl> Message-ID: <4B17C175.9030008@comcast.net> From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Dec 3 07:12:49 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 22:12:49 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] 4 Cyl Compression Measurement In-Reply-To: References: <481268393.8703281259789202472.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <4B16EA09.30201@chello.nl> Message-ID: Just another note on this: compression is more or less self correcting once you get over 500 rpms, so regardless of how good or bad your rings are, you will have plenty compression for the engine to run normally, even with bad rings or a scored cylinder. It just may burn oil. Main thing is to make sure the numbers are all very close, that helps reduce stress on the crank and helps your car run smooth. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 From mgcharlie at comcast.net Thu Dec 3 07:18:09 2009 From: mgcharlie at comcast.net (Charlie Baldwin) Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 09:18:09 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Interesting old car pictures In-Reply-To: References: <4B179268.6020506@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4B17C8A1.2050901@comcast.net> Nice pic, though I'm a bit surprised that she posed for that. It's interesting that the French think an AC Cobra is feminine as in _une_ AC Cobra rather than _un_ AC Cobra. If a Cobra isn't masculine, I'm not sure what car would be. :-) Charlie Alan Seigrist wrote: > How about this old car pic? > > http://www.leblogauto.com/wpg2/?g2_itemId=163986 > > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '59 Jag Mk IX > '64 BJ8 > > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 6:26 PM, 63ahbj7 <63ahbj7 at comcast.net> wrote: > > >> From a NJ Spridgeteer !!!!! >> >> >> 1900 into the 1940s >> >> http://mred-old-cars.blogspot.com/ >> >> >> This is VERY KOOL !!!!!!! So ENJOY !!! >> >> Ed >> Please visit MY site at: >> www.justbrits.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as mgcharlie at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of mgcharlie.vcf] From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Dec 3 07:38:08 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 06:38:08 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 4 Cyl Compression Measurement In-Reply-To: References: <481268393.8703281259789202472.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <4B16EA09.30201@chello.nl> Message-ID: <4B17CD50.9020205@comcast.net> From warthodson at aol.com Thu Dec 3 08:22:46 2009 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 10:22:46 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 4 Cyl Compression Measurement In-Reply-To: References: <686080733.8669081259784970054.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><481268393.8703281259789202472.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <8CC42439943A1AC-9884-4821@webmail-d060.sysops.aol.com> The compression readings will also vary depending upon wheather or not they were taken with the throttle opened or closed. Gary Hodson From eyera3 at gmail.com Thu Dec 3 08:51:16 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 07:51:16 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Interesting old car pictures In-Reply-To: <4B17C8A1.2050901@comcast.net> References: <4B179268.6020506@comcast.net> <4B17C8A1.2050901@comcast.net> Message-ID: <173126440912030751v6bede87br9c95d86f419444c9@mail.gmail.com> you would think the snake named thing would be masculine.... On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 6:18 AM, Charlie Baldwin wrote: > Nice pic, though I'm a bit surprised that she posed for that. It's > interesting that the French think an AC Cobra is feminine as in _une_ AC > Cobra rather than _un_ AC Cobra. If a Cobra isn't masculine, I'm not > sure what car would be. :-) > Charlie > > Alan Seigrist wrote: > > How about this old car pic? > > > > http://www.leblogauto.com/wpg2/?g2_itemId=163986 > > > > Alan > > > > '52 A90 > > '53 BN1 > > '59 Jag Mk IX > > '64 BJ8 > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 6:26 PM, 63ahbj7 <63ahbj7 at comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > >> From a NJ Spridgeteer !!!!! > >> > >> > >> 1900 into the 1940s > >> > >> http://mred-old-cars.blogspot.com/ > >> > >> > >> This is VERY KOOL !!!!!!! So ENJOY !!! > >> > >> Ed > >> Please visit MY site at: > >> www.justbrits.com > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> > >> Healeys at autox.team.net > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > >> > >> You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > >> > >> http://www.team.net/archive > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > You are subscribed as mgcharlie at comcast.net > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name > of mgcharlie.vcf] > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- I Erbs Portland, OR From coll44 at msn.com Thu Dec 3 08:58:12 2009 From: coll44 at msn.com (TERRY COLL) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 10:58:12 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 4 Cyl Compression Measurement In-Reply-To: <686080733.8669081259784970054.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: , <686080733.8669081259784970054.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Makes sense! Thanks Bob! Terry Coll Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 20:16:10 +0000 From: bspidell at comcast.net To: coll44 at msn.com CC: glemon at neb.rr.com; jmnewt at comcast.net; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] 4 Cyl Compression Measurement Compressing a gas causes it to heat and (try to) expand, raising pressure beyond nominal. There are formulas for computing the total compression, but I'm to lazy to google it right now. bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA Sorry, but I'm not following the math here. Atmospheric pressure is 14.7 psi (at sea level) so a compression ratio of 8.5 should yeild appx. 125 psi. Assuming I'm missing something, can anyone splain what it is? _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail is faster and more secure than ever. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/hotmail_bl1/hotmail_bl1.aspx?oci d=PID23879::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-ww:WM_IMHM_1:092009 From e-wilkins at cox.net Thu Dec 3 09:08:53 2009 From: e-wilkins at cox.net (Eric (Rick) Wilkins) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 08:08:53 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Interesting old car pictures In-Reply-To: <4B17C8A1.2050901@comcast.net> References: <4B179268.6020506@comcast.net> <4B17C8A1.2050901@comcast.net> Message-ID: They, as many refer to the "sexy" lines. Also, vehicles (notably ships) are always addressed in the feminine in most parts of the world. On Dec 3, 2009, at 6:18 AM, Charlie Baldwin wrote: > Nice pic, though I'm a bit surprised that she posed for that. It's > interesting that the French think an AC Cobra is feminine as in > _une_ AC > Cobra rather than _un_ AC Cobra. If a Cobra isn't masculine, I'm not > sure what car would be. :-) > Charlie > > Alan Seigrist wrote: >> How about this old car pic? >> >> http://www.leblogauto.com/wpg2/?g2_itemId=163986 >> >> Alan >> >> '52 A90 >> '53 BN1 >> '59 Jag Mk IX >> '64 BJ8 From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Dec 3 09:09:33 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 16:09:33 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] travelling assistance in France In-Reply-To: References: , <173126440911301444r79300c3eid2c107695fc89718@mail.gmail.com>, <43849415FF3E4FD0B6F29F5F5A27B27D@GregPC>, , Message-ID: My kids are living larger than I and I fully support it. I dated ( Canadian French ) girls without knowing the language. >> am drunk and completely abusive Does this happen often? :) Don't forget to say "eh!", eh! Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 17:59:49 +0800 Robert - I had a lovely French aristocrat for a girlfried when I was living in Vietnam in 1995. I fully support this sort of travel, but I didn't speak any French. Incidentally, whenever I am in a foriegn land and am drunk and completely abusive to everyone else, I let everyone know that "I'M FROM CANADA!!" I suggest all Americans repeat this particular phrase often when being rude, it is very effective for our country's image. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:53 PM, wrote: Scenery is secondary. He's going to see a girl. LOL! If he does need to talk louder and use the hand gestures, I'll request that he put a US flag patch on to help your image. He should know 'some' French. He was in French immersion for 3 years, way back when ... but he hasn't had much need to use it. One might think with my last name and that I grew up ... ( maybe that's not the right phrase? ) ... was born and raised in the province of Quebec that there might be some French language in me somewhere to pass down, but alas, no. Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada From austin.healey at gmail.com Thu Dec 3 09:15:50 2009 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 03:15:50 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Lowering a BJ8 - Cape shocks In-Reply-To: <20091202154807.19004.qmail@hoster902.com> References: <20091202154807.19004.qmail@hoster902.com> Message-ID: Springs determine ride height. Shocks (dampers) determine oscilation of springs. If you don't understand the principles, your Healey will never handle. i.e shocks stop springs from oscilating. They dampen (stop/limit) spring oscilation (the bounce in a spring) They don't determine ride height. In my experience, the easiest way to lower a BJ8 is to fit earlier 3000 (ie Mk I/ ii rear) springs, and drill out the centre locating bolt hole to fit the BJ8 one. Then you can use an earlier 3000 competition main leaf, if you need to. I did. And I used 1/2 inch lowering blocks. Then worry about your shocks. I still have Armstrong lever arms. But then, I'm an old school kinda guy. And the maths said they were cine. At the back, with leaf springs. Chris www.myaustinhealey.com. Sent from my iPhone On 03/12/2009, at 2:48 AM, "Steve B. Gerow" wrote: > James Sailer wrote: > >> ...and in conjunction with >> conversion to tube shocks (both from Cape International), which as >> I recall >> lowered it an additional 1/4 inch. > > Jim, > > I'm running the Cape rear tube shock kit and it lowers the car via > the use of insufficient travel on the rear shocks. When I installed > mine, with the car on stands, the rear axle didn't rest against the > rubber pads on the frame rails. The shocks limited the rebound > travel. Obviously this problem would be exacerbated on the BJ8 with > its longer rear suspension travel. > > The Cape lower mounts consist of an approximately 1/4" thick plate > which sandwiches between the spring and lower spring plate. This has > a stud extending from it which is the lower shock mount itself. > > After driving, both lower shock mounts bent upward and the one on > the passenger side is cracked halfway through. At some point I plan > on replacing Cape's rear shocks with longer-travelling SPAX units > and repairing the lower plates. > > I've found Cape to be communicative for Sales but not for Service. > > -- > Steve Gerow > BN6 with Cape rear shocks From dan at warner-associates.com Thu Dec 3 09:20:53 2009 From: dan at warner-associates.com (Dan Stromquist) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 10:20:53 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Longstone Tyres In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5435E3E534234F909ED34F998834FC18@DANSTROM> Thanks Alan. I just place an order for new Dunlop Roadspeed RS5 tyres. Universal wanted about $100 more per tire. Longstone's shipping was very reasonable. Dan From: Alan Seigrist [mailto:healey.nut at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 8:30 PM To: Dan Stromquist Cc: Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] Longstone Tyres Dan - I have ordered from them several times. Very professional and fast. Shipping fees very reasonable (I don't know how they do it). I get my tires from them in the UK to HK in three days. They have tires no one else has, and they even do special runs with many of the European tire manufacturers for oddball sizes, like the 5.50x16 Michelin radials I have on my A90. No one else in the world has them. Also if you need tubes, get them from them. They have proper reinforced michelin tubes for use in radials. Highly recommended. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Dan Stromquist wrote: I am considering placing an order with Longstone Classic Tyres out of the UK. Has anyone had any experience with them and would care to comment. Dan Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com http://www.team.net/archive From coudesluijs at chello.nl Thu Dec 3 09:32:27 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 17:32:27 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] 4 Cyl Compression Measurement In-Reply-To: <8CC42439943A1AC-9884-4821@webmail-d060.sysops.aol.com> References: <686080733.8669081259784970054.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><481268393.8703281259789202472.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <8CC42439943A1AC-9884-4821@webmail-d060.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4B17E81B.6060003@chello.nl> Compresion readings should always be taken with the trottle fully open. Kees Oudesluijs warthodson at aol.com schreef: > The compression readings will also vary depending upon wheather or not they > were taken with the throttle opened or closed. > Gary Hodson > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive From bcrist at club-internet.fr Thu Dec 3 09:51:47 2009 From: bcrist at club-internet.fr (Bernard Cristalli) Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 17:51:47 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Interesting old car pictures In-Reply-To: <4B17C8A1.2050901@comcast.net> References: <4B179268.6020506@comcast.net> <4B17C8A1.2050901@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4B17ECA3.9060705@club-internet.fr> A car is always female. "Une" because it is a car. "Voiture" is feminine. You say "un" only when it's a coupi, because it is "un coupi". B Charlie Baldwin a icrit : > Nice pic, though I'm a bit surprised that she posed for that. It's > interesting that the French think an AC Cobra is feminine as in _une_ AC > Cobra rather than _un_ AC Cobra. If a Cobra isn't masculine, I'm not > sure what car would be. :-) > Charlie > > Alan Seigrist wrote: > >> How about this old car pic? >> >> http://www.leblogauto.com/wpg2/?g2_itemId=163986 >> >> Alan >> >> '52 A90 >> '53 BN1 >> '59 Jag Mk IX >> '64 BJ8 >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 6:26 PM, 63ahbj7 <63ahbj7 at comcast.net> wrote: >> >> >> >>> From a NJ Spridgeteer !!!!! >>> >>> >>> 1900 into the 1940s >>> >>> http://mred-old-cars.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> >>> This is VERY KOOL !!!!!!! So ENJOY !!! >>> >>> Ed >>> Please visit MY site at: >>> www.justbrits.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com >>> >>> http://www.team.net/archive >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as mgcharlie at comcast.net >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of mgcharlie.vcf] > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as jagxk120 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From richard.ewald at gmail.com Thu Dec 3 10:36:47 2009 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 09:36:47 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Interesting old car pictures In-Reply-To: References: <4B179268.6020506@comcast.net> Message-ID: That is a fine piece of machinery. The car isn't bad either. Rick On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 3:37 AM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > How about this old car pic? > > http://www.leblogauto.com/wpg2/?g2_itemId=163986 > > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '59 Jag Mk IX > '64 BJ8 > > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 6:26 PM, 63ahbj7 <63ahbj7 at comcast.net> wrote: > > > From a NJ Spridgeteer !!!!! > > > > > > 1900 into the 1940s > > > > http://mred-old-cars.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > This is VERY KOOL !!!!!!! So ENJOY !!! > > > > Ed > > Please visit MY site at: > > www.justbrits.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richard.ewald at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Dec 3 10:40:40 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 17:40:40 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Interesting old car pictures In-Reply-To: <4B17C8A1.2050901@comcast.net> References: <4B179268.6020506@comcast.net>, , <4B17C8A1.2050901@comcast.net> Message-ID: I'm not complaining. Someone who is Francophone, please correct me, but I've been lead to believe that there is a flow of speach that is involved in the gender designation. une flows better than un in front of the AC. I could be completely wrong ... > Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 09:18:09 -0500 > > Nice pic, though I'm a bit surprised that she posed for that. It's > interesting that the French think an AC Cobra is feminine as in _une_ AC > Cobra rather than _un_ AC Cobra. If a Cobra isn't masculine, I'm not > sure what car would be. :-) > Charlie > > Alan Seigrist wrote: > > How about this old car pic? > > > > http://www.leblogauto.com/wpg2/?g2_itemId=163986 > > > > Alan > > > > '52 A90 > > '53 BN1 > > '59 Jag Mk IX > > '64 BJ8 From coudesluijs at chello.nl Thu Dec 3 10:46:32 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:46:32 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Lowering a BJ8 - Cape shocks In-Reply-To: References: <20091202154807.19004.qmail@hoster902.com> Message-ID: <4B17F978.10608@chello.nl> Not quite correct. If you have gas pressurized shock absorbers they will slightly increase the ride hight. However shock absorbers should never limit suspension travel as this will destroy the dampers and or their mountings on chassis/body. Kees Oudesluijs NL Kees Oudesluijs Chris Dimmock schreef: > Springs determine ride height. > Shocks (dampers) determine oscilation of springs. > If you don't understand the principles, your Healey will never handle. > i.e shocks stop springs from oscilating. They dampen (stop/limit) > spring oscilation (the bounce in a spring) They don't determine ride > height. > In my experience, the easiest way to lower a BJ8 is to fit earlier > 3000 (ie Mk I/ ii rear) springs, and drill out the centre locating > bolt hole to fit the BJ8 one. > Then you can use an earlier 3000 competition main leaf, if you need to. > I did. > And I used 1/2 inch lowering blocks. > Then worry about your shocks. > I still have Armstrong lever arms. > But then, I'm an old school kinda guy. > And the maths said they were cine. At the back, with leaf springs. > > Chris > www.myaustinhealey.com. From dpaye at crocker.com Thu Dec 3 11:24:15 2009 From: dpaye at crocker.com (Donald Paye) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 12:24:15 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] New BN1 Wiring Harness Message-ID: <29CB0274A42E412C92FD1773CFB64A00@DonaldPayePC> I am looking for suggestions on the best source for a new wiring harness for my BN1. ;I recently purchased a new cloth covered wire and cloth laced harness from a long time reputable supplier but was disappointed to see that it is laced with solid black thread. My original harness is covered in a brown weave with black traces. I have been told that 100's were black with a white stitch or trace through the covering. What is the quality of Moss's cloth covered harness? Appreciate any input. This will not be a concours restoration but want as near original and good quality harness. Thanks, Don Paye From coudesluijs at chello.nl Thu Dec 3 13:11:32 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 21:11:32 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] New BN1 Wiring Harness In-Reply-To: <29CB0274A42E412C92FD1773CFB64A00@DonaldPayePC> References: <29CB0274A42E412C92FD1773CFB64A00@DonaldPayePC> Message-ID: <4B181B74.1040002@chello.nl> Possibles: http://www.vintagecarparts.co.uk/fr/1613~wiring+loom-details/ http://www.autosparks.co.uk/ (these are very well known) Kees Oudesluijs NL Donald Paye schreef: > I am looking for suggestions on the best source for a new wiring harness for > my BN1. ;I recently purchased a new cloth covered wire and cloth laced harness > from a long time reputable supplier but was disappointed to see that it is > laced with solid black thread. My original harness is covered in a brown weave > with black traces. I have been told that 100's were black with a white stitch > or trace through the covering. What is the quality of Moss's cloth covered > harness? Appreciate any input. This will not be a concours restoration but > want as near original and good quality harness. > > Thanks, From cnaarndt at gmail.com Thu Dec 3 13:56:46 2009 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 12:56:46 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] New BN1 Wiring Harness In-Reply-To: <29CB0274A42E412C92FD1773CFB64A00@DonaldPayePC> References: <29CB0274A42E412C92FD1773CFB64A00@DonaldPayePC> Message-ID: <751d05480912031256l6aa8d309r7da3086a8399a50c@mail.gmail.com> Hi Don, Long time since we've spoken My BN1 also has a Brown and Black Harness. So do other BN1 owners however the patten never seems to be the same. I did some research 10+ years ago and I was told by Ed and Leslie at British Wiring that when the wiring was originally covered that the quality of the black in the tracers cotton varied and while ALL the spools looked black when new some of the black cloth has faded to brown over that last 55 years. This is why for example the brown on my BN1 loom is more prevalent that the black and just the opposite on other BN1s I've examined. Think about this for a moment, a tracer in the black is supposed to be just that, a contrasting color to identify the harness. As I stated Mine is more brown than black in some areas and vice versa in others and several other harnesses I compared are never that same. What Ed told me makes sense. If you send "Rhode Island Wiring" your original loom they will match the brown and the black, for a price. I did ask Ed at British wiring about doing the same thing and he thought I was foolish to try and match what he considered a defect in manufacture. Now I will say that Roger Moment and I are in total disagreement about this issue and he thinks that this Brown tracer was planned at the Factory. We remain in disagreement to this day. I hope this helps. In Conclusion, the BN1 wiring looms were supposed to be all black and I won't deduct at a Concours judging if they are all black or black and brown. Cheers, Curt - AH Concours Committee On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Donald Paye wrote: > I am looking for suggestions on the best source for a new wiring harness > for > my BN1. ;I recently purchased a new cloth covered wire and cloth laced > harness > from a long time reputable supplier but was disappointed to see that it is > laced with solid black thread. My original harness is covered in a brown > weave > with black traces. I have been told that 100's were black with a white > stitch > or trace through the covering. What is the quality of Moss's cloth covered > harness? Appreciate any input. This will not be a concours restoration but > want as near original and good quality harness. > > Thanks, > > Don Paye > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as cnaarndt at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From grday at btinternet.com Thu Dec 3 14:09:09 2009 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 21:09:09 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Interesting old car pictures References: <4B179268.6020506@comcast.net>, , <4B17C8A1.2050901@comcast.net> Message-ID: Everything french has been allocate a gender. There is no rhyme nor reason as to which of the two genders the french have decided to use for any object. BUT woe is you to choose the wrong gender as you not gain your exam results and you get laughed at in polite french society. You get a couple of months in the Bastille in impolite french society. If you refer to something as 'it' - gender neutral - you will be accused of murdering the french language and spend a couple of years in the Bastille followed by enforced signing up in the french foreign legion and you may not borrow my kepi or boots. Seriously, to the best of my knowledge, there are no rules as to the allocation of gender to an object. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Healeys" Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 5:40 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Interesting old car pictures > I'm not complaining. > > > > Someone who is Francophone, please correct me, but I've been lead to > believe > that there is a flow of speach that is involved in the gender designation. > une flows better than un in front of the AC. I could be completely wrong > ... > > > > > >> Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 09:18:09 -0500 >> >> Nice pic, though I'm a bit surprised that she posed for that. It's >> interesting that the French think an AC Cobra is feminine as in _une_ AC >> Cobra rather than _un_ AC Cobra. If a Cobra isn't masculine, I'm not >> sure what car would be. :-) >> Charlie >> >> Alan Seigrist wrote: >> > How about this old car pic? >> > >> > http://www.leblogauto.com/wpg2/?g2_itemId=163986 >> > >> > Alan >> > >> > '52 A90 >> > '53 BN1 >> > '59 Jag Mk IX >> > '64 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as grday at btinternet.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From rnbmail at yahoo.com Thu Dec 3 14:16:00 2009 From: rnbmail at yahoo.com (Robert Blair) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 13:16:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Lowering a BJ8 - Cape shocks In-Reply-To: <4B17F978.10608@chello.nl> Message-ID: <922522.37015.qm@web37907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> If your brand of gas shocks control the car height that is not good - dont use them. Certainly dont use them to set the cosmetic height of the car. Over-tech is not the way to go unless you are doing a seious chassis makeover for serious track work - then it becomes a 'different car' from the road car that we all own and drive. Standard shocks work fine in my book if in proper working condition. Robert N. Blair Yellow 65BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com --- On Thu, 12/3/09, Oudesluys wrote: > From: Oudesluys > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Lowering a BJ8 - Cape shocks > To: "Chris Dimmock" > Cc: "Steve B. Gerow" , "healeys at autox.team.net" > Date: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 9:46 AM > Not quite correct. If you have gas > pressurized shock absorbers they will slightly increase the > ride hight. > However shock absorbers should never limit suspension > travel as this will destroy the dampers and or their > mountings on chassis/body. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL > > Kees Oudesluijs > Chris Dimmock schreef: > > Springs determine ride height. > > Shocks (dampers) determine oscilation of springs. > > If you don't understand the principles, your Healey > will never handle. > > i.e shocks stop springs from oscilating. They dampen > (stop/limit) spring oscilation (the bounce in a spring) They > don't determine ride height. > > In my experience, the easiest way to lower a BJ8 is to > fit earlier 3000 (ie Mk I/ ii rear) springs, and drill out > the centre locating bolt hole to fit the BJ8 one. > > Then you can use an earlier 3000 competition main > leaf, if you need to. > > I did. > > And I used 1/2 inch lowering blocks. > > Then worry about your shocks. > > I still have Armstrong lever arms. > > But then, I'm an old school kinda guy. > > And the maths said they were cine. At the back, with > leaf springs. > > > > Chris > > www.myaustinhealey.com. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as rnbmail at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From jstmorris at yahoo.com Thu Dec 3 15:06:56 2009 From: jstmorris at yahoo.com (J. Scott Morris) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 14:06:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Hugh Sutherland Doing Well Message-ID: <866160.55560.qm@web30303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yesterday, I sent an email [see below] regarding Hugh Sutherlandbs health after receiving a bulletin from the Lotus Club of Canada.B An initial confirmation from Michael Eddenden of the Lotus Club of Canada stated in part b& bHugh was a works driver for BMC many years ago, if as an amateur.bB B However that Murphy Guy struck again. B The Hugh Sutherland referred to by the Lotus Club of Canada Bulletin is NOT the same Hugh Sutherland that was a well known works driver for BMC-Austin in the 50bs and 60bs and raced an Austin Healey 100S and eventually became the first owner of this BMC Canada works car.B Hugh also had a famous underground home in the Schomberg area and had acquired a vast collection of really neat cars.B In the Fall of 2001 I had the privilege to visit his home as part of a club tour and to view his collection of cars, wines and world wide artefacts, all underground. B One of the recipients of that initial email contacted me and suggested that there may be a mix up; that he had been in touch with Hugh Sutherland and that he was fine.B Today I received a call from Hugh who let me know that, from his point of view, the Hugh Sutherland in the Toronto hospital must be his doppel-ganger.B B In short, the well known BMC-Austin works race driver and wine connoisseur is doing quite well. He is quite involved with his wine business and car restoration projects.B B He can be reached through his website B http://www.carriagetradewines.com .B B I have apologized to Hugh for the mix up and I do so to you.B I also request representatives of the Lotus Club of Canada to convey my apology to their Hugh Sutherland who has, according to the latest bulletin, been moved to the Sunnybrook Hospital in Toronto. B --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada J. Scott Morris - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives B Re:B B B B B B B B B [CMSHG] Hugh Sutherland not well Date:B B B B B Wednesday, December 2, 2009 12:11 PM From: B B "J. Scott Morris" To:B B B B B B B "Canadian Motorsport Historical Group" , "Austin Healey" Good Day; B B I have just received word, via the Lotus Club of Canada, that Hugh Sutherland has inoperable cancer of the lower bowel and liver.B He is in North York General Hospital in Room 364, phone 416-756-6000B B Ext.2364,B and is waiting to be transferred from the hospital to a palliative care centre.B If you feel like giving him a phone call, evidently that is alright with Hugh.B Please bear in mind that Hugh will be moved in the near future and the telephone number will change. --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada J. Scott Morris - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ From healeyrick at yahoo.com Thu Dec 3 15:17:13 2009 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 14:17:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Endurance Car at Millbrook Message-ID: <654435.56781.qm@web51407.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Some nice pics here:http://www.sportscardigest.com/austin-healey-endurance-speed-record-attempt-photo-gallery/ From cbaustin at verizon.net Thu Dec 3 17:44:53 2009 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 19:44:53 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Interesting old car pictures - now French References: <4B179268.6020506@comcast.net>, , <4B17C8A1.2050901@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4AA9FB767EC7451888299E671D42F499@universal1> If I remember, after Mark Twain published "The Celebrated Jumping Frog of Calaveras County", he found a copy that had been translated into French. He then re-translated it back into English, word for word and with French grammar rules; pretty funny. Later, CB From wpollock at inbox.com Thu Dec 3 17:49:10 2009 From: wpollock at inbox.com (wpollock@inbox) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 19:49:10 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] rear wheel movement Message-ID: <946A95EDDE4E4587BAB9245D717F2444@saybrook1> Today I jacked the rear of the my car to remove the rear wheels. With the car in 4th gear,while removing the knockoffs,I noted I could move the rear wheels 3/8 to 1/2 inch back and forth before feeling the the resistance from the transmission. I haven't noted this large amount of play in the rear wheels before and my question is,have I missed this movement in the past or do I have excessive play in the rear. With a tape I marked each hub and than with a finger moved the hub and the measurement is the same on both sides. I appreciate any ideas or suggestions. Bill Pollock 100-6 From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Dec 3 18:32:29 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 09:32:29 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] New BN1 Wiring Harness In-Reply-To: <751d05480912031256l6aa8d309r7da3086a8399a50c@mail.gmail.com> References: <29CB0274A42E412C92FD1773CFB64A00@DonaldPayePC> <751d05480912031256l6aa8d309r7da3086a8399a50c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Donald - Regarless of what you decide to do, I highly recommend you talk to Peter at: http://thewiringharness.co.uk/index.htm And he will make the exact harness you need, to your spec. Note that not only the USD is in the toilet, but the GBP is conveniently in the toilet too, so exchange rates are decent. Peter is old school, knows everything, and close to retirement, so if you want a harness from him, better get it now. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 4:56 AM, Curt/Nancy Arndt wrote: > Hi Don, > > Long time since we've spoken > > My BN1 also has a Brown and Black Harness. So do other BN1 owners however > the patten never seems to be the same. > > I did some research 10+ years ago and I was told by Ed and Leslie at > British > Wiring that when the wiring was originally covered that the quality of the > black in the tracers cotton varied and while ALL the spools looked black > when new some of the black cloth has faded to brown over that last 55 > years. This is why for example the brown on my BN1 loom is more prevalent > that the black and just the opposite on other BN1s I've examined. > > Think about this for a moment, a tracer in the black is supposed to be just > that, a contrasting color to identify the harness. As I stated Mine is > more > brown than black in some areas and vice versa in others and several other > harnesses I compared are never that same. What Ed told me makes sense. > > If you send "Rhode Island Wiring" your original loom they will match the > brown and the black, for a price. I did ask Ed at British wiring about > doing the same thing and he thought I was foolish to try and match what he > considered a defect in manufacture. > > Now I will say that Roger Moment and I are in total disagreement about this > issue and he thinks that this Brown tracer was planned at the Factory. We > remain in disagreement to this day. > > I hope this helps. > > In Conclusion, the BN1 wiring looms were supposed to be all black and I > won't deduct at a Concours judging if they are all black or black and > brown. > > Cheers, > > Curt - AH Concours Committee From steveg at abrazosdata.com Thu Dec 3 19:24:24 2009 From: steveg at abrazosdata.com (Steve Gerow) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 18:24:24 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Harbor Freight Jacks Message-ID: <008001ca7488$e5b2e040$b118a0c0$@com> For stateside folks within range of Harbor Freight Tools, their racing jacks are currently on sale for $99.99 Mine came with a cool iridescent blue handle to contrast nicely with the aluminum body - God bless globalization! -- Steve Gerow Pasadena, CA, USA BN6 From stmiller96 at hotmail.com Thu Dec 3 20:04:46 2009 From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 22:04:46 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Bugeye rear- tech tip Message-ID: If you get oil leaking from your rear end on your rear brake shoes, then your rear brakes become ineffective. Most would just replace the rear hub oil seals, gaskets, and o-rings. There is three other critical things to also consider. First thing is to check the hub itself. Many times the hub have burrs around the edges that can keep the hub and axle from seating properly and making a good seal. If there are burrs just lightly file the edges flat with the hub face. Second thing to consider is the rear end breather that is positioned on top of the rear housing on the right hand side from center. It can be turned out with a large standard stubby screwdriver or carefully turned out with pliers. Clean it thoroughly and make sure the holes are clear so the rear end can breath. If the breather becomes clogged, the pressure (caused when the rear oil heats up) can cause the oil to be forced out past the oil seals. Third thing is to clear the rear housing oil drain holes that are located on the rear axle housing just inside the rear brake back plates (at about the six o'clock position). These holes tend to get clogged up with road debris and if your oil seals do leak they are designed to keep most of the oil out of the brake drums/ shoe area and drain down the rear of the brake back plate. The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/videos-tours.aspx?h=7sec&slideid=1 &media=aero-shake-7second&listid=1&stop=1&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-U S:WWL_WIN_7secdemo:122009 From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Dec 3 20:19:08 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 11:19:08 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] rear wheel movement In-Reply-To: <946A95EDDE4E4587BAB9245D717F2444@saybrook1> References: <946A95EDDE4E4587BAB9245D717F2444@saybrook1> Message-ID: Bill - This back and forth play will always be identical on both sides because of the spider gear assembly in the differential will put the play to one side or the other or both, depending on whether one wheel is being held in place or not. 1/2" of play isn't anything to be worried about. Just make sure your diff is full of oil. You probably should check your U joints while it's jacked up. Put the car in gear (give some resistance from the motor) then have a person hold one wheel and spin the other one back and forth. If you see movement between the driveshaft and the diff or gearbox, then you know you U joints are bad - pretty easy repair job while the car is up. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 8:49 AM, wpollock at inbox wrote: > Today I jacked the rear of the my car to remove the rear wheels. With the > car > in 4th gear,while removing the knockoffs,I noted I could move the rear > wheels > 3/8 to 1/2 inch back and forth before feeling the the resistance from the > transmission. I haven't noted this large amount of play in the rear wheels > before and my question is,have I missed this movement in the past or do I > have > excessive play in the rear. With a tape I marked each hub and than with a > finger moved the hub and the measurement is the same on both sides. > I appreciate any ideas or suggestions. > > Bill Pollock > 100-6 From amalin at mac.com Thu Dec 3 20:40:19 2009 From: amalin at mac.com (Al Malin) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 22:40:19 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] rear wheel movement In-Reply-To: <946A95EDDE4E4587BAB9245D717F2444@saybrook1> References: <946A95EDDE4E4587BAB9245D717F2444@saybrook1> Message-ID: <3970F045-74AF-4A24-9EFB-D8004A86C5B0@mac.com> This could be the wrong group to help you find out if you "have excessive play in the rear". ;=) Al On Dec 3, 2009, at 7:49 PM, wpollock at inbox wrote: > Today I jacked the rear of the my car to remove the rear wheels. With the car > in 4th gear,while removing the knockoffs,I noted I could move the rear wheels > 3/8 to 1/2 inch back and forth before feeling the the resistance from the > transmission. I haven't noted this large amount of play in the rear wheels > before and my question is,have I missed this movement in the past or do I have > excessive play in the rear. With a tape I marked each hub and than with a > finger moved the hub and the measurement is the same on both sides. > I appreciate any ideas or suggestions. > > Bill Pollock > 100-6 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as amalin at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From david at dleong.org Thu Dec 3 20:44:51 2009 From: david at dleong.org (David Leong) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 19:44:51 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Harbor Freight Jacks In-Reply-To: <008001ca7488$e5b2e040$b118a0c0$@com> References: <008001ca7488$e5b2e040$b118a0c0$@com> Message-ID: <000601ca7494$2e667990$8b336cb0$@org> $79.99 on the web Dave -----Original Message----- From: Steve Gerow Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:24 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Harbor Freight Jacks For stateside folks within range of Harbor Freight Tools, their racing jacks currently on sale for $99.99 Mine came with a cool iridescent blue handle to contrast nicely with the aluminum body - God bless globalization! Steve Gerow Pasadena, CA, USA BN6 From ynotink at msn.com Thu Dec 3 20:56:51 2009 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 03:56:51 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Interesting old car pictures In-Reply-To: References: <4B179268.6020506@comcast.net>, Message-ID: Somehow I just don;t see any of the Unsers doing this... Bill Lawrence > Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 19:37:10 +0800 > From: healey.nut at gmail.com > To: 63ahbj7 at comcast.net > CC: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Interesting old car pictures > > How about this old car pic? > > http://www.leblogauto.com/wpg2/?g2_itemId=163986 > > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '59 Jag Mk IX > '64 BJ8 > > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 6:26 PM, 63ahbj7 <63ahbj7 at comcast.net> wrote: > > > From a NJ Spridgeteer !!!!! > > > > > > 1900 into the 1940s > > > > http://mred-old-cars.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > This is VERY KOOL !!!!!!! So ENJOY !!! > > > > Ed > > Please visit MY site at: > > www.justbrits.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as ynotink at msn.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Dec 3 21:34:37 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 20:34:37 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] rear wheel movement In-Reply-To: <946A95EDDE4E4587BAB9245D717F2444@saybrook1> References: <946A95EDDE4E4587BAB9245D717F2444@saybrook1> Message-ID: <4B18915D.7090604@comcast.net> Sounds like normal slack in the differential and gearbox to me. bs wpollock at inbox wrote: > Today I jacked the rear of the my car to remove the rear wheels. With the car > in 4th gear,while removing the knockoffs,I noted I could move the rear wheels > 3/8 to 1/2 inch back and forth before feeling the the resistance from the > transmission. I haven't noted this large amount of play in the rear wheels > before and my question is,have I missed this movement in the past or do I have > excessive play in the rear. With a tape I marked each hub and than with a > finger moved the hub and the measurement is the same on both sides. > I appreciate any ideas or suggestions. > > Bill Pollock > 100-6 > > ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From eyera3 at gmail.com Thu Dec 3 21:38:27 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 20:38:27 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Tow hooks Message-ID: <5B14402B-F001-47B4-9C35-60C1569321C0@gmail.com> Can someone make me a pattern tracing of front and rear tow hooks? I want to machine some for my car. Please contact off list. 59BT7 I Erbs Sent from my iPod From 55healey at comcast.net Thu Dec 3 23:50:08 2009 From: 55healey at comcast.net (robert westcott) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 22:50:08 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Harbor Freight Jacks In-Reply-To: <008001ca7488$e5b2e040$b118a0c0$@com> References: <008001ca7488$e5b2e040$b118a0c0$@com> Message-ID: Most magazines like Popular Science and Popular Mechanics have 20% off coupons too boot. Makes an even better deal. Rob On Dec 3, 2009, at 6:24 PM, Steve Gerow wrote: > For stateside folks within range of Harbor Freight Tools, their > racing jacks > are currently on sale for $99.99 > > Mine came with a cool iridescent blue handle to contrast nicely with > the > aluminum body - God bless globalization! From coudesluijs at chello.nl Fri Dec 4 00:55:02 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 08:55:02 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] rear wheel movement In-Reply-To: <946A95EDDE4E4587BAB9245D717F2444@saybrook1> References: <946A95EDDE4E4587BAB9245D717F2444@saybrook1> Message-ID: <4B18C056.2070206@chello.nl> This movement, play is caused by the differential and is perfectly normal. Play is usually measured at the drive shaft flange with both wheels on the ground and on many British cars appearantly you should get worried if you can turn this flange for more than 90:. I prefer a lot less. Kees Oudesluijs NL wpollock at inbox schreef: > Today I jacked the rear of the my car to remove the rear wheels. With the car > in 4th gear,while removing the knockoffs,I noted I could move the rear wheels > 3/8 to 1/2 inch back and forth before feeling the the resistance from the > transmission. I haven't noted this large amount of play in the rear wheels > before and my question is,have I missed this movement in the past or do I have > excessive play in the rear. With a tape I marked each hub and than with a > finger moved the hub and the measurement is the same on both sides. > I appreciate any ideas or suggestions. > > Bill Pollock > 100-6 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive From wpollock at inbox.com Fri Dec 4 06:51:15 2009 From: wpollock at inbox.com (wpollock@inbox) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 08:51:15 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] rear wheel movement Message-ID: <982B94C5FBF14C79916EB40001528742@saybrook1> Thanks for all the replies. Worries over with. Bill Pollock ____________________________________________________________ Receive Notifications of Incoming Messages Easily monitor multiple email accounts & access them with a click. Visit http://www.inbox.com/notifier and check it out! From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Dec 4 07:12:14 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 14:12:14 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Tow hooks In-Reply-To: <5B14402B-F001-47B4-9C35-60C1569321C0@gmail.com> References: <5B14402B-F001-47B4-9C35-60C1569321C0@gmail.com> Message-ID: This says 'front'. http://www.healeys.ca/towing_eyes.html Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen ) > From: eyera3 at gmail.com > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 20:38:27 -0800 > Subject: [Healeys] Tow hooks > > Can someone make me a pattern tracing of front and rear tow hooks? I > want to machine some for my car. Please contact off list. > 59BT7 > I Erbs > Sent from my iPod > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as robertduquette at sympatico.ca > > http://www.team.net/archive From awgertoo at aol.com Fri Dec 4 07:23:57 2009 From: awgertoo at aol.com (awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 09:23:57 EST Subject: [Healeys] Bugeye rear- tech tip Message-ID: <13c5.1a3b125.384a757d@aol.com> In a message dated 12/3/2009 11:33:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, stmiller96 at hotmail.com writes: First thing is to check the hub itself. Many times the hub have burrs around the edges that can keep the hub and axle from seating properly and making a good seal. If there are burrs just lightly file the edges flat with the hub face. -------------------------------------------------------------- If the bearing surface on the stub axle ends (where the seals ride) are scored then filing them will not do the job and you will still get leaking into the brakes. You can restore the sealing surface by installing a speedi-sleeve which is driven on over the stub. It is just slightly smaller in OD than the the original and will restore the effectiveness of the hub seal. Best--Michael Oritt From ronald-ray at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 4 07:58:05 2009 From: ronald-ray at sbcglobal.net (Ron Ray) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 08:58:05 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Bugeye rear- tech tip In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000301ca74f2$2f6ada80$8e408f80$@net> Back in the early 1970s, I helped a much older friend race his Bugeye in SCCA H-Production. He found that an O-ring from a Ford something was just oversized enough to solve the oil leakage problem. Ron -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of S and T Miller Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 9:05 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Bugeye rear- tech tip If you get oil leaking from your rear end on your rear brake shoes, then your rear brakes become ineffective. Most would just replace the rear hub oil seals, gaskets, and o-rings. There is three other critical things to also consider. First thing is to check the hub itself. Many times the hub have burrs around the edges that can keep the hub and axle from seating properly and making a good seal. If there are burrs just lightly file the edges flat with the hub face. Second thing to consider is the rear end breather that is positioned on top of the rear housing on the right hand side from center. It can be turned out with a large standard stubby screwdriver or carefully turned out with pliers. Clean it thoroughly and make sure the holes are clear so the rear end can breath. If the breather becomes clogged, the pressure (caused when the rear oil heats up) can cause the oil to be forced out past the oil seals. Third thing is to clear the rear housing oil drain holes that are located on the rear axle housing just inside the rear brake back plates (at about the six o'clock position). These holes tend to get clogged up with road debris and if your oil seals do leak they are designed to keep most of the oil out of the brake drums/ shoe area and drain down the rear of the brake back plate. The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." From stmiller96 at hotmail.com Fri Dec 4 08:17:44 2009 From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 10:17:44 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Bugeye rear- tech tip In-Reply-To: <13c5.1a3b125.384a757d@aol.com> References: <13c5.1a3b125.384a757d@aol.com> Message-ID: Very true. I would never recommend filing the axle stub. I was referring to the hub itself. The outing edges sometimes have burs on them that can keep the surfaces from seating properly (o-ring/ gasket). The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." From: awgertoo at aol.com Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 09:23:57 -0500 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bugeye rear- tech tip To: stmiller96 at hotmail.com; healeys at autox.team.net In a message dated 12/3/2009 11:33:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, stmiller96 at hotmail.com writes: First thing is to check the hub itself. Many times the hub have burrs around the edges that can keep the hub and axle from seating properly and making a good seal. If there are burrs just lightly file the edges flat with the hub face. -------------------------------------------------------------- If the bearing surface on the stub axle ends (where the seals ride) are scored then filing them will not do the job and you will still get leaking into the brakes. You can restore the sealing surface by installing a speedi-sleeve which is driven on over the stub. It is just slightly smaller in OD than the the original and will restore the effectiveness of the hub seal. Best--Michael Oritt _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/videos-tours.aspx?h=7sec&slideid=1 &media=aero-shake-7second&listid=1&stop=1&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-U S:WWL_WIN_7secdemo:122009 From mandmschneider at comcast.net Fri Dec 4 08:34:43 2009 From: mandmschneider at comcast.net (Mark Schneider) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 07:34:43 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Transmission noise Message-ID: <9D63F189-025B-490F-AEBC-2643D8FE4C0E@comcast.net> Listers, Recently I sought assistance from the Healey list members regarding a transmission noise I was hearing from my totally rebuilt drive line. I had removed the transmission/overdrive, clutch, propeller shaft and U-joints from my BJ8 and completely dismantled everything and replaced all worn parts with new components, particularly bearings, synchro rings, and thrust washers. A few hundred miles after re-installing everything I began to detect a rattle associated with acceleration and a metallic tinkling sound when at a stop with engine running, in neutral with the clutch pedal fully out. I got a number of very helpful suggestions from the list members but I have finally identified the sound source and it is not one of the sources suggested. Perhaps this story will save somebody from making the same mistake I made. Today I will once again remove the BJ8 interior and transmission/overdrive so that I can correct a drooping clutch fork that is allowing the throw out bearing to make contact with the first motion shaft. I was so focused on the transmission that I missed the worn bushes on the fork shaft. Oh well. Marks 3 '66 BJ8 From grumpyinloomis at ssctv.net Fri Dec 4 08:33:44 2009 From: grumpyinloomis at ssctv.net (Jerry Costanzo) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 07:33:44 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Harbor Freight Jacks References: <008001ca7488$e5b2e040$b118a0c0$@com> Message-ID: These jacks work great for our little cars. I tried to use this jack on a 3400# car and it was on a very slight grade. The jack started to bend. For $79-99 , just beware! From britishcars at shaw.ca Fri Dec 4 09:30:58 2009 From: britishcars at shaw.ca (PG) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 08:30:58 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Tow hooks In-Reply-To: <5B14402B-F001-47B4-9C35-60C1569321C0@gmail.com> Message-ID: <806sno$5ic2l3@pd7mo1no-svcs.prod.shaw.ca> Check out this link from the AH British Columbia Website http://www.healeys.ca/towing_eyes.html Paul -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of I Erbs Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 8:38 PM To: healey Subject: [Healeys] Tow hooks Can someone make me a pattern tracing of front and rear tow hooks? I want to machine some for my car. Please contact off list. 59BT7 I Erbs Sent from my iPod Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as britishcars at shaw.ca http://www.team.net/archive From eyera3 at gmail.com Fri Dec 4 09:40:36 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 08:40:36 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] thanks, got the tow hook drawings Message-ID: <173126440912040840i26cb261ev1eb81a52c493dbff@mail.gmail.com> Thanks for the reply. I got the measured drawings I needed. The machine shop teacher at school will make them foe me out of Aluminum. -- I Erbs Portland, OR From eyera3 at gmail.com Fri Dec 4 09:45:23 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 08:45:23 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] right rear fender needed Message-ID: <173126440912040845n12f3734fg61deb2f79bac4aa@mail.gmail.com> My left (driver side) rear fender has rusted doglegs and a lot of bondo in the rear of the fender. anyone have a decent replacement ? they want to donate :) to the cause.... Ok I would pay for one if I had too. 59 BT7 -- I Erbs Portland, OR From eyera3 at gmail.com Fri Dec 4 09:53:45 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 08:53:45 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] cold air box 3000 Message-ID: <173126440912040853s11a3d448s5c1eb1e8a358f41c@mail.gmail.com> looking for info on making a le mans or Le Mans or Lemans :) type cold air box for my MKI 3000. If you have done this please contact me. Or any ideas on how to improve airflow to the 1 /34" carbs. Thanks -- I Erbs Portland, OR From bspidell at comcast.net Fri Dec 4 10:01:51 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 17:01:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Transmission noise In-Reply-To: <9D63F189-025B-490F-AEBC-2643D8FE4C0E@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1653802332.100191259946111423.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Thanks for sharing. I wouldn't have thought to check the clutch fork bushings ... I will now. bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA Listers, Recently I sought assistance from the Healey list members regarding a transmission noise I was hearing from my totally rebuilt drive line. I had removed the transmission/overdrive, clutch, propeller shaft and U-joints from my BJ8 and completely dismantled everything and replaced all worn parts with new components, particularly bearings, synchro rings, and thrust washers. A few hundred miles after re-installing everything I began to detect a rattle associated with acceleration and a metallic tinkling sound when at a stop with engine running, in neutral with the clutch pedal fully out. I got a number of very helpful suggestions from the list members but I have finally identified the sound source and it is not one of the sources suggested. Perhaps this story will save somebody from making the same mistake I made. Today I will once again remove the BJ8 interior and transmission/overdrive so that I can correct a drooping clutch fork that is allowing the throw out bearing to make contact with the first motion shaft. I was so focused on the transmission that I missed the worn bushes on the fork shaft. Oh well. Marks 3 '66 BJ8 From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Fri Dec 4 10:36:50 2009 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 17:36:50 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?harbor_freight_jacks?= Message-ID: <20091204173650.8482.qmail@server278.com> not sure if i bought the racing version, but they had aluminum jacks for 59.95 a while back and i had a 20percent coupon i tore out of a popular science book from the barber shop. i really love it because i do not have to crawl out from under the car to move the jack like the old steel one. the new one is so light i can move it laying on my back and it has little handle on the side. doesn't get any better than that! hjim From philritten at aol.com Fri Dec 4 11:13:58 2009 From: philritten at aol.com (philritten at aol.com) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 13:13:58 EST Subject: [Healeys] Harbor Freight Jacks Message-ID: <1011.5e159148.384aab66@aol.com> My father got me a "Roadmaster electric push button car jack", which appears to be about $50 online. It slides very easily under the frame of my '58 and lifts it up quickly so that I can slide my floor jack or a jack stand underneath . Only trouble is that it works via a cigaret lighter (so I have to pull another car up next to it to operate). Phil In a message dated 12/3/2009 9:29:02 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, david at dleong.org writes: $79.99 on the web Dave -----Original Message----- From: Steve Gerow Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:24 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Harbor Freight Jacks For stateside folks within range of Harbor Freight Tools, their racing jacks currently on sale for $99.99 Mine came with a cool iridescent blue handle to contrast nicely with the aluminum body - God bless globalization! Steve Gerow Pasadena, CA, USA BN6 Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as philritten at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive From Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com Fri Dec 4 11:15:02 2009 From: Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 10:15:02 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] thanks, got the tow hook drawings In-Reply-To: <173126440912040840i26cb261ev1eb81a52c493dbff@mail.gmail.com> References: <173126440912040840i26cb261ev1eb81a52c493dbff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D03420072@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> If you make them out of steel, you stick a bar between them and use it for a floor jack lift instead of the frame cross member. Ken Freese 65 BJ8 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of I Erbs Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 8:41 AM To: healey help Subject: [Healeys] thanks, got the tow hook drawings Thanks for the reply. I got the measured drawings I needed. The machine shop teacher at school will make them foe me out of Aluminum. -- I Erbs Portland, OR From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 4 12:02:45 2009 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 11:02:45 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] BN7 BT7 Chassis Message-ID: <7A0C4B9E-79DF-4EBB-AC2A-713AE8C2A441@sbcglobal.net> We have just parted out a BN6 that has a pretty rust free frame. It will need outer sills and possibly nothing else as for rust replacement. It has been hit in the left front and the shock tower is bent back about 15 degrees. If anyone is looking at restoring a rusty BN6/7 this would be a good donor chassis. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . From insptwo at msn.com Fri Dec 4 12:14:22 2009 From: insptwo at msn.com (insptwo at msn.com) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 14:14:22 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Harbor Freight Jacks In-Reply-To: References: <008001ca7488$e5b2e040$b118a0c0$@com>, , Message-ID: I have found, over the years, the one of the best jacks to use is a jack from a Clark Fork Lift. It scissors under the BJ7 easily even with a flat, and has a high lift. It will also take a load of weight. Note how heavy fork lifts are! It fits in the trunk neatly. It may take a little more room than the Healey jack, but it works so much better. Bill BJ7 > From: grumpyinloomis at ssctv.net > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 07:33:44 -0800 > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Harbor Freight Jacks > > These jacks work great for our little cars. I tried to use this jack on a > 3400# car and it was on a very slight grade. The jack started to bend. For > $79-99 , just beware! From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Fri Dec 4 13:29:16 2009 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 12:29:16 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] harbor freight jacks In-Reply-To: <20091204173650.8482.qmail@server278.com> References: <20091204173650.8482.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: Be cautious with these jacks! I purchased one and loved the up part but it crashed coming down every time. Scared the s--- out of me first time. I could have been under it. I went back to the HF store and tried their floor models. Same thing. I like it to come down slowly especially if I am putting jack stands under. I bought a low profile steel one that works well but weighs a ton. > From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 17:36:50 +0000 > Subject: [Healeys] harbor freight jacks > > not sure if i bought the racing version, but they had aluminum jacks for 59.95 a while back and i had a 20percent coupon i tore out of a popular science book from the barber shop. i really love it because i do not have to crawl out from under the car to move the jack like the old steel one. the new one is so light i can move it laying on my back and it has little handle on the side. doesn't get any better than that! hjim > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tahoehealey at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail gives you a free,exclusive gift. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/hotmail_bl1/hotmail_bl1.aspx?oci d=PID23879::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-ww:WM_IMHM_7:092009 From rca53 at columbia.edu Fri Dec 4 14:10:18 2009 From: rca53 at columbia.edu (Atkinson, Robert) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 16:10:18 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Roll Bars Message-ID: Can anyone recommend a source for a non-racing rollbar for a BJ8 that fits under the convertible top so that the top can be used in inclement weather? Any idea about the cost? Has anyone actually rolled a car with such a rollbar installed and how did it perform? Thanks Bob Atkinson From willig at wtnet.de Fri Dec 4 14:35:51 2009 From: willig at wtnet.de (T+ B Willig) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 22:35:51 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Looking for a BN2 rh steering lever Message-ID: <000001ca7529$c0979930$41c6cb90$@de> After long measuring, comparing the lft side of the steering to the right side, aided by some members of the list, I found out that my rh steering lever on my 100 BN2 is seriously bend inwards. Is someone on the list able to help me with a good s/h unit? I have shipping addresses in the US and in Europe were the part could be send. So don't be scared off about shipping issues. Thomas Willig From mkgoodman at att.net Fri Dec 4 15:32:30 2009 From: mkgoodman at att.net (Mark Goodman) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 17:32:30 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Tow Bars for jack placement Message-ID: <001d01ca7531$ab61ef90$0225ceb0$@net> Dear Ken, I have both front and rear tow hooks and never thought to put a bar between them to jack up the car, rather than the cross member. Great idea!!!! Mark Goodman 66BJ8 35503 www.austinhealeyessence.com From Mauser9 at aol.com Fri Dec 4 17:00:34 2009 From: Mauser9 at aol.com (Mauser9 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 19:00:34 EST Subject: [Healeys] Healey Jack Message-ID: I use my ATV/motorcycle hyd jack to lift my BT7 to place my jack stands. Plenty of clearance and pads are long to catch anywhere. 99.99 at HF not on sale. Don 62BT7 From glemon at neb.rr.com Fri Dec 4 17:20:06 2009 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 18:20:06 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] harbor freight jacks In-Reply-To: References: <20091204173650.8482.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: <531A11FCD2CD4BD68CBEC495ECCBB46C@GregPC> Richard, The Harbor Freight Aluminum Floor Jack is on my Christmas list, and I think my wife might even get it for me instead of the usual clothing items she seems to think are important. You say the jack slams back down, most hydraulic floor jacks I am familiart with you are opening a valve to let them lower, the less you open it the slower it goes down, is this Jack different? or is the opening/release just hypersensitive? Thanks, Greg From bighealey at astound.net Fri Dec 4 18:11:46 2009 From: bighealey at astound.net (John Soderling) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 17:11:46 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] cold air box 3000 References: <173126440912040853s11a3d448s5c1eb1e8a358f41c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2E4CD78C58AA4718A916F26AE963C877@Soderling> I'm also interested in this topic for my Erika the Red. Vrooom, John ----- Original Message ----- From: "I Erbs" To: "healey help" Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 8:53 AM Subject: [Healeys] cold air box 3000 > looking for info on making a le mans or Le Mans or Lemans :) type cold air > box for my MKI 3000. If you have done this please contact me. Or any ideas > on how to improve airflow to the 1 /34" carbs. > Thanks > > -- > I Erbs > Portland, OR > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as bighealey at astound.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From austin.healey at gmail.com Fri Dec 4 18:20:20 2009 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 12:20:20 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Looking for a BN2 rh steering lever In-Reply-To: <000001ca7529$c0979930$41c6cb90$@de> References: <000001ca7529$c0979930$41c6cb90$@de> Message-ID: So, are you looking for a right hand steering arm for a left hand drive BN2; or a right hand steering arm for a right hand drive BN2? And we all thought the handed discussion was finally over..... :-) Right Hand drive BJ8 Sent from my iPhone On 05/12/2009, at 8:35 AM, "T+ B Willig" wrote: > After long measuring, comparing the lft side of the steering to the > right > side, aided by some members of the list, I found out that my rh > steering > lever on my 100 BN2 is seriously bend inwards. Is someone on the > list able > to help me with a good s/h unit? I have shipping addresses in the > US and in > Europe were the part could be send. So don't be scared off about > shipping > issues. > > > > Thomas Willig > ___________________ From richchrysler at quickclic.net Fri Dec 4 18:48:52 2009 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 20:48:52 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Looking for a BN2 rh steering lever References: <000001ca7529$c0979930$41c6cb90$@de> Message-ID: <7917E9C31A7A4DBD82C5549ED06C645B@LIFEBOOK> I took a bent lever to my local machine shop (owner has his aircraft mechanic's certificate) and for $35.00 and a good hydraulic press, they were able to bend it back exactly to original configuration. I had taken them another good one for accurate measurements and they got it to within a few thousandths of an inch. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "T+ B Willig" To: Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 4:35 PM Subject: [Healeys] Looking for a BN2 rh steering lever > After long measuring, comparing the lft side of the steering to the right > side, aided by some members of the list, I found out that my rh steering > lever on my 100 BN2 is seriously bend inwards. Is someone on the list able > to help me with a good s/h unit? I have shipping addresses in the US and > in > Europe were the part could be send. So don't be scared off about shipping > issues. > > > > Thomas Willig > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richchrysler at quickclic.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From mayorrichard at hotmail.com Fri Dec 4 19:01:26 2009 From: mayorrichard at hotmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 02:01:26 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Roll Bars In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bob, If you install a "non racing" roll bar that fits under the top, then it is worthless. If you roll, your head will extend above and beyond the area of protection. That area of protection is determined by drawing a line from the topmost front of the engine (which is the point that the front of the car will crush down to and contact the pavement) to the top of the bar above your head. The area under that line is the area of protection. The Brits that race under the FIA guidelines, have bars that fit under the hardtops, but, it is a cage that also has a another bar that goes across the top of the windshield. I suspect that anyone that has rolled a Healey with a roll-bar that you are contemplating is no longer with us and cannot help you with your question. Richard Mayor > From: rca53 at columbia.edu > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 16:10:18 -0500 > Subject: [Healeys] Roll Bars > > Can anyone recommend a source for a non-racing rollbar for a BJ8 that fits > under the convertible top so that the top can be used in inclement weather? > Any idea about the cost? Has anyone actually rolled a car with such a rollbar > installed and how did it perform? > > Thanks > > Bob Atkinson > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as mayorrichard at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail is faster and more secure than ever. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/hotmail_bl1/hotmail_bl1.aspx?oci d=PID23879::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-ww:WM_IMHM_1:092009 From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Fri Dec 4 20:25:38 2009 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 19:25:38 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] harbor freight jacks In-Reply-To: <531A11FCD2CD4BD68CBEC495ECCBB46C@GregPC> References: <20091204173650.8482.qmail@server278.com> , <531A11FCD2CD4BD68CBEC495ECCBB46C@GregPC> Message-ID: I could not get the open valve to open slowly. It was closed and wide open with just a slight twist of the valve. Check it out before you get under or raise the car very high. Maybe they just got a bad batch but go to your local HF and stand on it and release the valve. My new jack and my cheapy from Kregan both allow for slow decent. Rich Kahn > From: glemon at neb.rr.com > To: tahoehealey at hotmail.com; healeymanjim at hansencc.net; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] harbor freight jacks > Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 18:20:06 -0600 > > Richard, The Harbor Freight Aluminum Floor Jack is on my Christmas list, and > I think my wife might even get it for me instead of the usual clothing items > she seems to think are important. You say the jack slams back down, most > hydraulic floor jacks I am familiart with you are opening a valve to let > them lower, the less you open it the slower it goes down, is this Jack > different? or is the opening/release just hypersensitive? > > Thanks, Greg > _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail is faster and more secure than ever. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/hotmail_bl1/hotmail_bl1.aspx?oci d=PID23879::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-ww:WM_IMHM_1:092009 From 63ahbj7 at comcast.net Fri Dec 4 20:33:05 2009 From: 63ahbj7 at comcast.net (63ahbj7) Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 21:33:05 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Roll Bars In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B19D471.1090504@comcast.net> << Bob, If you install a "non racing" roll bar that fits under the top, then it is worthless.>> You beat me to it, Richard !!! And "worthless" IS the correct word, Bob. Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com From healey.nut at gmail.com Fri Dec 4 20:54:00 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 11:54:00 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Looking for a BN2 rh steering lever In-Reply-To: References: <000001ca7529$c0979930$41c6cb90$@de> Message-ID: Chris - I think he's talking about the right hand track rod.... Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Chris Dimmock wrote: > So, are you looking for a right hand steering arm for a left hand drive > BN2; or a right hand steering arm for a right hand drive BN2? > > And we all thought the handed discussion was finally over..... > > :-) > Right Hand drive BJ8 > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 05/12/2009, at 8:35 AM, "T+ B Willig" wrote: > > After long measuring, comparing the lft side of the steering to the right >> side, aided by some members of the list, I found out that my rh steering >> lever on my 100 BN2 is seriously bend inwards. Is someone on the list able >> to help me with a good s/h unit? I have shipping addresses in the US and >> in >> Europe were the part could be send. So don't be scared off about shipping >> issues. >> >> >> >> Thomas Willig >> ___________________ >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From MBran89793 at aol.com Fri Dec 4 21:10:47 2009 From: MBran89793 at aol.com (MBran89793 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 23:10:47 EST Subject: [Healeys] Tow hooks Message-ID: (I want to machine some for my car.) Why go to all that trouble when you can get them from Bill Bolton (_TRICARB at aol.com_ (mailto:TRICARB at aol.com) ) at Bolt on Healeys for a very reasonable price. Bill Bolton has been making these items for years and makes a super product. Why try to improve on something that has already been done 100% accurate. No financial interest just a satisfied customer. Marion Brantley BJ8 Ph2-"Blackie" From nir6709 at aol.com Fri Dec 4 21:57:45 2009 From: nir6709 at aol.com (nir6709 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 23:57:45 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] hydraulic supply tank Message-ID: <8CC437E9E3720CC-557C-4050@webmail-d081.sysops.aol.com> Hi, my name is Bob,currently rebuilding a 60 BT7 love it.I know that somebody on this list has rebuilt their duel supply tank,need to know what steps to take to prevent leakage on the bottom of the tank.Thanks so much Bob Richmond From steveg at abrazosdata.com Fri Dec 4 22:22:00 2009 From: steveg at abrazosdata.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Steve=20B.=20Gerow?=) Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 21:22:00 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?Harbor_Freight_Jacks?= Message-ID: <20091205052200.13598.qmail@hoster902.com> FWIW - I used my new jack to lift up one side of the front of my wife's 240Z (no Healey endangerment allowed around here - but don't tell her!) about 6" and released it by turning the handle about 1/8 turn. It went down slowly & controllably but with a slight screeching noise. Not as bad as stepping on the tail of one of our cats, though. Nope, not that bad. So far so good. If it craps out at some point I will surely post a followup. You bet! -- Steve Gerow Pasadena, CA BN6 From austin.healey at gmail.com Fri Dec 4 22:23:17 2009 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 16:23:17 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] rollbars Message-ID: <628A2394-3B5F-40A9-B425-5DD7001428AD@gmail.com> Your comments are valid and true Richard, i agree with the sentiments, but you can, depending on the driver, achieve the desired outcome by careful attention to the other variables. The other variables with a single hoop, full car width rollbar are seat location (height) from the floor; driver "height" below the rollbar (ie how tall the driver is from bum to top of head whilst seated); and driver being firmly secured to the car. For example, Joe Armor's LeMans (Le Mans?) right hand drive (sorry, couldnt help myself...) ex-works Sprite coupe has has the floorpan lowered under the drivers seat to achieve rollbar head clearance & safety compliance inside the coupe. Many quite tall guys racing single full width hoop roll bar healeys have made a "lower" cushion on the drivers seat in order for the top of their helmet to be the mandatory 2 inches below the rollbar; and/ or bolted the seat base directly to the floor without a; and/or moved the seat forward, and wedged the front of the seat base to tilt the seat back more backwards. All of which assumes you can still see the road.... Most single hoop full width rollbars also have either rear braces/ and or a forward brace into the passengers footwell. The biggest issue these days, from personal experience, on road going Healys is compliance with road registration rules, engineering certificates/ manufacturer specs, and the product liability issues with roll bar manufacturers insurance policies. No roll bar manufacturer in Australia I spoke to will make & fit a roll bar to a road registered convertible these days. Just not worth their while in event of a fatality. So unless you are prepared to engineer it properly, rather than just "bolt in a rollbar" I agree with Richard's sentiments. If you don't do it properly, the rollbar will be as much use as those (usually chrome) driver only "roll hoops" you usually see on MGBs. You know, where the hoop comes up to the middle of the back of the drivers head.... But fits neatly under the hood.. Chris Sent from my iPhone On 05/12/2009, at 1:01 PM, richard mayor wrote: > Bob, If you install a "non racing" roll bar that fits under the top, > then it > is worthless. If you roll, your head will extend above and beyond > the area of > protection. That area of protection is determined by drawing a line > from the > topmost front of the engine (which is the point that the front of > the car will > crush down to and contact the pavement) to the top of the bar above > your head. > The area under that line is the area of protection. From eyera3 at gmail.com Fri Dec 4 22:42:04 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 21:42:04 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Roll Bars Message-ID: <4b19f28c.9513f30a.3c39.460b@mx.google.com> Worse that worthless dangerous . Could pin your head or crack it if your head rocks back into it sent from my cellular PDA I Erbs -----Original Message----- From: 63ahbj7 <63ahbj7 at comcast.net> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 7:33 PM To: richard mayor ; healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Roll Bars << Bob, If you install a "non racing" roll bar that fits under the top, then it is worthless.>> You beat me to it, Richard !!! And "worthless" IS the correct word, Bob. Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com http://www.team.net/archive From glemon at neb.rr.com Sat Dec 5 00:05:31 2009 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 01:05:31 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] harbor freight jacks In-Reply-To: <120520090517.16310.4B19ECD20002CC0400003FB622230650629B0A02D29B9B0EBF020E03969B9A9B9CD20A0B97040C@att.net> References: <20091204173650.8482.qmail@server278.com> <531A11FCD2CD4BD68CBEC495ECCBB46C@GregPC> <120520090517.16310.4B19ECD20002CC0400003FB622230650629B0A02D29B9B0EBF020E03969B9A9B9CD20A0B97040C@att.net> Message-ID: Hey they call it an aluminum RACING jack, ever watch a NASCAR or F1 race? do they slowly lower the car to the ground after changing the tires and filling up with fuel in 6.2 seconds or so? NO! they drop it like a stone. All kidding aside, I appreciate the input, it may already be hidden away somewhere in the house, will give it a try, but will be extra careful with it. Greg Lemon From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 4 23:20:08 2009 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 22:20:08 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Healeys Return to Bonneville Videos In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20091204221917.02025600@pop.att.yahoo.com> Steven, Great video, thank you for sharing. John At 01:11 PM 11/18/2009 -0500, ATIGHTPROD at aol.com wrote: >Here's the links to two little videos I shot for the Healeys Return to.... >enjoy ... From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Sat Dec 5 04:09:58 2009 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 06:09:58 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Harbor Freight Jacks References: <008001ca7488$e5b2e040$b118a0c0$@com> Message-ID: <000801ca759b$7bf895f0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> The more I read the more it is apparent that some are actually not using jack stands along with there jacks. Put the car on stands before you get underneath gents. Its such cheap, easy insurance. Many of these units are made in China and I don't have to mention the value they put on lives when it comes to turning a profit. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Gerow" To: Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 9:24 PM Subject: [Healeys] Harbor Freight Jacks > For stateside folks within range of Harbor Freight Tools, their racing > jacks > are currently on sale for $99.99 > > Mine came with a cool iridescent blue handle to contrast nicely with the > aluminum body - God bless globalization! > > > > -- > > > > Steve Gerow > > Pasadena, CA, USA > > BN6 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as lapierrem at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Sat Dec 5 04:15:40 2009 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 06:15:40 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] hydraulic supply tank References: <8CC437E9E3720CC-557C-4050@webmail-d081.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <001101ca759c$478c5e90$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> The Moss catalog gives a pretty good pictorial of the washers that are needed. British Car Specialist books also show a good brake down of the washers needed. The ones that I received appeared to be an aluminum type and a special sized hole to fit tightly. I don't remember any type of rubber seals that were used which surprised me a bit. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 11:57 PM Subject: [Healeys] hydraulic supply tank > Hi, my name is Bob,currently rebuilding a 60 BT7 love it.I know that > somebody > on this list has rebuilt their duel supply tank,need to know what steps to > take to prevent leakage on the bottom of the tank.Thanks so much Bob > Richmond > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as lapierrem at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From pieters at pt.lu Sat Dec 5 04:59:17 2009 From: pieters at pt.lu (Pieter and Linda) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 12:59:17 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Harbor Freight Jacks In-Reply-To: <000801ca759b$7bf895f0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> References: <008001ca7488$e5b2e040$b118a0c0$@com> <000801ca759b$7bf895f0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: You are so right Mark. I have a friend who will be in a wheel chair for life after not using Axle stands. The car was on a flat concrete surface, on a very substantial trolley jack. The simple act of torquing up a nut was enough for the car to slip off the jack and fall, breaking his back and a number of ribs. Had it not been for the fact that his head was just clear of the gearbox as the car came down he would be dead. Our hobby is not worth dying or being crippled for, Pieter On 05/12/2009, at 12:09 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: > The more I read the more it is apparent that some are actually not > using jack stands along with there > jacks. Put the car on stands before you get underneath gents. Its > such cheap, easy insurance. Many > of these units are made in China and I don't have to mention the > value they put on lives when it comes > to turning a profit. > > Mark > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Gerow" > > To: > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 9:24 PM > Subject: [Healeys] Harbor Freight Jacks > > >> For stateside folks within range of Harbor Freight Tools, their >> racing jacks >> are currently on sale for $99.99 >> >> Mine came with a cool iridescent blue handle to contrast nicely >> with the >> aluminum body - God bless globalization! >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> Steve Gerow >> >> Pasadena, CA, USA >> >> BN6 >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as lapierrem at sbcglobal.net >> >> http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as pieters at pt.lu > > http://www.team.net/archive From healey.nut at gmail.com Sat Dec 5 05:59:24 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 20:59:24 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Harbor Freight Jacks In-Reply-To: References: <008001ca7488$e5b2e040$b118a0c0$@com> <000801ca759b$7bf895f0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: I also used wood 2x4s under the frame for additional safety On 12/5/09, Pieter and Linda wrote: > You are so right Mark. I have a friend who will be in a wheel chair > for life after not using Axle stands. The car was on a flat concrete > surface, on a very substantial trolley jack. The simple act of > torquing up a nut was enough for the car to slip off the jack and > fall, breaking his back and a number of ribs. Had it not been for the > fact that his head was just clear of the gearbox as the car came down > he would be dead. Our hobby is not worth dying or being crippled for, > Pieter > On 05/12/2009, at 12:09 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: > >> The more I read the more it is apparent that some are actually not >> using jack stands along with there >> jacks. Put the car on stands before you get underneath gents. Its >> such cheap, easy insurance. Many >> of these units are made in China and I don't have to mention the >> value they put on lives when it comes >> to turning a profit. >> >> Mark >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Gerow" > > >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 9:24 PM >> Subject: [Healeys] Harbor Freight Jacks >> >> >>> For stateside folks within range of Harbor Freight Tools, their >>> racing jacks >>> are currently on sale for $99.99 >>> >>> Mine came with a cool iridescent blue handle to contrast nicely >>> with the >>> aluminum body - God bless globalization! >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> >>> Steve Gerow >>> >>> Pasadena, CA, USA >>> >>> BN6 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> You are subscribed as lapierrem at sbcglobal.net >>> >>> http://www.team.net/archive >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as pieters at pt.lu >> >> http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Sent from my mobile device Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 From tomfelts at windstream.net Sat Dec 5 06:56:02 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 8:56:02 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Tow hooks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20091205075602.B4R3Y.1290791.root@ispmxfep12-z01> I have his tow hooks on my BJ8. Made good use of them when I shipped the car to Europe. They fit perfectly. tom ---- MBran89793 at aol.com wrote: ============= (I want to machine some for my car.) Why go to all that trouble when you can get them from Bill Bolton (_TRICARB at aol.com_ (mailto:TRICARB at aol.com) ) at Bolt on Healeys for a very reasonable price. Bill Bolton has been making these items for years and makes a super product. Why try to improve on something that has already been done 100% accurate. No financial interest just a satisfied customer. Marion Brantley BJ8 Ph2-"Blackie" Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net http://www.team.net/archive From alexmm at roadrunner.com Sat Dec 5 07:14:08 2009 From: alexmm at roadrunner.com (Alex) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 09:14:08 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Harbor Freight Jacks References: <008001ca7488$e5b2e040$b118a0c0$@com><000801ca759b$7bf895f0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: <10AB4BE78C6A49FBB87FF562D23BD580@atc0f226cd3237> Solid hardwood blocks are also useful to ensure safety. They can often be obtained from boatyards. Mine are about 2-ft long and 10 inches square. It's easy to place them at strategic points. == Alex in Maine "The Blue Mainie," 1960 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 "Conkling," 1946 MG TC #1321 Former owner 1957 A-H 100-6, 1967 A-H BJ8, 1965 MG Midget http://home.roadrunner.com/~alexmm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pieter and Linda" To: "Mark LaPierre" Cc: "Steve Gerow" ; Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 6:59 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Harbor Freight Jacks > You are so right Mark. I have a friend who will be in a wheel chair > for life after not using Axle stands. The car was on a flat concrete > surface, on a very substantial trolley jack. The simple act of > torquing up a nut was enough for the car to slip off the jack and > fall, breaking his back and a number of ribs. Had it not been for the > fact that his head was just clear of the gearbox as the car came down > he would be dead. Our hobby is not worth dying or being crippled for, > Pieter > On 05/12/2009, at 12:09 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: > >> The more I read the more it is apparent that some are actually not >> using jack stands along with there >> jacks. Put the car on stands before you get underneath gents. Its >> such cheap, easy insurance. Many >> of these units are made in China and I don't have to mention the >> value they put on lives when it comes >> to turning a profit. >> >> Mark [demime found a multipart/alternative section which it tried to parse but could not find any section which it could render. Please send plain text.] From RonFineEsq at earthlink.net Sat Dec 5 09:12:56 2009 From: RonFineEsq at earthlink.net (Ron Fine) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 08:12:56 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] hydraulic supply tank References: <8CC437E9E3720CC-557C-4050@webmail-d081.sysops.aol.com> <001101ca759c$478c5e90$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: <7852BC42D99F42D2A4FCA17A565EF649@XPS400> When rebuilding my BN7 I tried to fit new washers of several types to seal the bottom fittings of the brake fluid tank without success. Upon close inspection, I discovered that there was some surface rust or etching around the holes that just seemed to prevent the washers from sealing. I gave up and purchased a new tank. No problem after that with leaking. Ron From tomleavy at comcast.net Sat Dec 5 09:16:18 2009 From: tomleavy at comcast.net (tomleavy at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 16:16:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Harbor Freight Jacks Message-ID: <150290728.12206761260029778875.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Buy American. (unless it's British, of course) Tom From ahbn6 at verizon.net Sat Dec 5 09:32:34 2009 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2009 11:32:34 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Harbor Freight Jacks Message-ID: <006601ca75c8$8cdc5780$a6950680$@net> Take a look at the method that I use that is on the Technical Page of my site. http://www.healey6.com/Technical/One Method of Raising a Car onto Jack Stands.pdf John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Alan Seigrist Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:59 AM To: Pieter and Linda; Mark LaPierre; Steve Gerow; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Harbor Freight Jacks I also used wood 2x4s under the frame for additional safety On 12/5/09, Pieter and Linda wrote: > You are so right Mark. I have a friend who will be in a wheel chair > for life after not using Axle stands. The car was on a flat concrete > surface, on a very substantial trolley jack. The simple act of > torquing up a nut was enough for the car to slip off the jack and > fall, breaking his back and a number of ribs. Had it not been for the > fact that his head was just clear of the gearbox as the car came down > he would be dead. Our hobby is not worth dying or being crippled for, > Pieter > On 05/12/2009, at 12:09 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: > >> The more I read the more it is apparent that some are actually not >> using jack stands along with there >> jacks. Put the car on stands before you get underneath gents. Its >> such cheap, easy insurance. Many >> of these units are made in China and I don't have to mention the >> value they put on lives when it comes >> to turning a profit. From willig at wtnet.de Sat Dec 5 09:35:54 2009 From: willig at wtnet.de (T+ B Willig) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 17:35:54 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Looking for a BN2 rh steering lever In-Reply-To: <7917E9C31A7A4DBD82C5549ED06C645B@LIFEBOOK> References: <000001ca7529$c0979930$41c6cb90$@de> <7917E9C31A7A4DBD82C5549ED06C645B@LIFEBOOK> Message-ID: <000101ca75c9$043eeef0$0cbcccd0$@de> Hi Rich, thanks for the advice, I was thinking already about that, but I was to scared, because I did not know which material it is made of. Have a nice weekend Thomas -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Rich C [mailto:richchrysler at quickclic.net] Gesendet: Samstag, 5. Dezember 2009 02:49 An: T+ B Willig; healeys at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Looking for a BN2 rh steering lever I took a bent lever to my local machine shop (owner has his aircraft mechanic's certificate) and for $35.00 and a good hydraulic press, they were able to bend it back exactly to original configuration. I had taken them another good one for accurate measurements and they got it to within a few thousandths of an inch. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "T+ B Willig" To: Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 4:35 PM Subject: [Healeys] Looking for a BN2 rh steering lever > After long measuring, comparing the lft side of the steering to the right > side, aided by some members of the list, I found out that my rh steering > lever on my 100 BN2 is seriously bend inwards. Is someone on the list able > to help me with a good s/h unit? I have shipping addresses in the US and > in > Europe were the part could be send. So don't be scared off about shipping > issues. > > > > Thomas Willig > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richchrysler at quickclic.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From mandmschneider at comcast.net Sat Dec 5 09:50:46 2009 From: mandmschneider at comcast.net (Mark Schneider) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 08:50:46 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Transmission Noise Message-ID: <8245D581-8D62-4AE1-9C09-95E74051E4BC@comcast.net> Email listers, As I reviewed the trail of emails regarding my recent effort to locate the source of a transmission noise I realized that I had failed to give credit to the gentleman who actually identified the problem. Bob Macherone, owner of the Sports Car Shop in Eugene, OR is the man that put me on the right trail to finding the the drooping clutch fork that allows the T/O bearing to make contact with the first motion shaft. Without Bob's initial suggestion to check for play in the fork it is unlikely that I would have found the sound generator. It is only fair to give credit where it is due. Marks 3 '66 BJ8 From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sat Dec 5 09:54:42 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 16:54:42 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Looking for a BN2 rh steering lever In-Reply-To: References: <000001ca7529$c0979930$41c6cb90$@de>, , Message-ID: A picture is often worth a thousand words. Perhaps, in cases like these, it might be best to go to an online catalogue and send the link and number of the part from one of the suppliers like: www.mossmotors.com www.ahead4healeys.co.uk www.ahspares.co.uk etc. or a photo of the offending piece posted online?? Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada > Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 11:54:00 +0800 > From: healey.nut at gmail.com > > Chris - > > I think he's talking about the right hand track rod.... > > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '59 Jag Mk IX > '64 BJ8 > > > On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Chris Dimmock wrote: > > > So, are you looking for a right hand steering arm for a left hand drive > > BN2; or a right hand steering arm for a right hand drive BN2? > > > > And we all thought the handed discussion was finally over..... > > > > :-) > > Right Hand drive BJ8 > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > On 05/12/2009, at 8:35 AM, "T+ B Willig" wrote: > > > > After long measuring, comparing the lft side of the steering to the right > >> side, aided by some members of the list, I found out that my rh steering > >> lever on my 100 BN2 is seriously bend inwards. Is someone on the list able > >> to help me with a good s/h unit? I have shipping addresses in the US and > >> in > >> Europe were the part could be send. So don't be scared off about shipping > >> issues. > >> > >> > >> > >> Thomas Willig From jodyfkerr at gmail.com Sat Dec 5 10:07:17 2009 From: jodyfkerr at gmail.com (Jody Kerr) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 10:07:17 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] harbor freight jacks In-Reply-To: References: <20091204173650.8482.qmail@server278.com> <531A11FCD2CD4BD68CBEC495ECCBB46C@GregPC> <120520090517.16310.4B19ECD20002CC0400003FB622230650629B0A02D29B9B0EBF020E03969B9A9B9CD20A0B97040C@att.net> Message-ID: <471534970912050907o3e4ef4bar111405fe4a189e07@mail.gmail.com> I also have one of those aluminum "racing jacks" from HF. I've had no problems lowering cars slowly with it, and this even includes the heavier ones like my Studebaker. The person who had the problem may have gotten one from a bad batch. I find at HF that if one is no good, the whole lot are, and you need to wait a few months until they get a fresh batch in from China. Jody On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 12:05 AM, Greg Lemon wrote: > Hey they call it an aluminum RACING jack, ever watch a NASCAR or F1 race? do > they slowly lower the car to the ground after changing the tires and filling > up with fuel in 6.2 seconds or so? NO! they drop it like a stone. > > All kidding aside, I appreciate the input, it may already be hidden away > somewhere in the house, will give it a try, but will be extra careful with > it. > > Greg Lemon > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as jodyfkerr at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- http://www.theymightberacing.com/ 1953 Studebaker Champion 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) http://motors.shop.ebay.com/merchant/jodyfkerr <--I'm selling parts on ebay! "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." --Douglas Adams From frogeye at porterscustom.com Sat Dec 5 11:14:16 2009 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (Dave Porter) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 11:14:16 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Transmission Noise In-Reply-To: <8245D581-8D62-4AE1-9C09-95E74051E4BC@comcast.net> References: <8245D581-8D62-4AE1-9C09-95E74051E4BC@comcast.net> Message-ID: <8730680916B8462E81988CF6F85DD799@oscar> Mark, Not to diminish any credit to Bob, but I think most of us who guessed at your noise assumed that in the course of rebuilding a gearbox that you would have replaced the release bearing and would have noticed that the fork was drooping about an inch... shame on us.. dave frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff blog: http://porterbikes.com/ -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark Schneider Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 9:51 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Transmission Noise Email listers, As I reviewed the trail of emails regarding my recent effort to locate the source of a transmission noise I realized that I had failed to give credit to the gentleman who actually identified the problem. Bob Macherone, owner of the Sports Car Shop in Eugene, OR is the man that put me on the right trail to finding the the drooping clutch fork that allows the T/O bearing to make contact with the first motion shaft. Without Bob's initial suggestion to check for play in the fork it is unlikely that I would have found the sound generator. It is only fair to give credit where it is due. Marks 3 '66 BJ8 Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as frogeye at porterscustom.com http://www.team.net/archive From Healey100M at gmail.com Sat Dec 5 11:14:22 2009 From: Healey100M at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 13:14:22 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] harbor freight jacks In-Reply-To: <471534970912050907o3e4ef4bar111405fe4a189e07@mail.gmail.com> References: <20091204173650.8482.qmail@server278.com> <531A11FCD2CD4BD68CBEC495ECCBB46C@GregPC> <120520090517.16310.4B19ECD20002CC0400003FB622230650629B0A02D29B9B0EBF020E03969B9A9B9CD20A0B97040C@att.net> <471534970912050907o3e4ef4bar111405fe4a189e07@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Boy, that endorsement makes me want to rush out and buy something from them! Randy Randy Hicks www.austinhealey100m.com '56 100M '55 BN1 Dealer LeMans '62 BN7 MkII '65 BJ8 '53 MGTD Healey100M at gmail.com On Dec 5, 2009, at 12:07 PM, Jody Kerr wrote: > I find at HF that if one is no good, the whole lot are, and you need > to wait a few months until they get a fresh batch in from China. From sjnnock at sbcglobal.net Sat Dec 5 12:04:00 2009 From: sjnnock at sbcglobal.net (Norman Nock) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 11:04:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] wood block stands In-Reply-To: <10AB4BE78C6A49FBB87FF562D23BD580@atc0f226cd3237> Message-ID: <637483.96385.qm@web83303.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> You forget the car is in gear and you crank the engine , your car will be off those wood blocks VERY quick ... now you have a big problem . Norman Nock --- On Sat, 12/5/09, Alex wrote: From: Alex Subject: Re: [Healeys] Harbor Freight Jacks To: "Pieter and Linda" , "Mark LaPierre" Cc: "Steve Gerow" , healeys at autox.team.net Date: Saturday, December 5, 2009, 6:14 AM Solid hardwood blocks are also useful to ensure safety. They can often be obtained from boatyards. Mine are about 2-ft long and 10 inches square. It's easy to place them at strategic points. == Alex in Maine "The Blue Mainie," 1960 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 "Conkling," 1946 MG TC #1321 Former owner 1957 A-H 100-6, 1967 A-H BJ8, 1965 MG Midget http://home.roadrunner.com/~alexmm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pieter and Linda" To: "Mark LaPierre" Cc: "Steve Gerow" ; Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 6:59 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Harbor Freight Jacks > You are so right Mark. I have a friend who will be in a wheel chair > for life after not using Axle stands. The car was on a flat concrete > surface, on a very substantial trolley jack. The simple act of > torquing up a nut was enough for the car to slip off the jack and > fall, breaking his back and a number of ribs. Had it not been for the > fact that his head was just clear of the gearbox as the car came down > he would be dead. Our hobby is not worth dying or being crippled for, > Pieter > On 05/12/2009, at 12:09 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: > >> The more I read the more it is apparent that some are actually not >> using jack stands along with there >> jacks. Put the car on stands before you get underneath gents. Its >> such cheap, easy insurance. Many >> of these units are made in China and I don't have to mention the >> value they put on lives when it comes >> to turning a profit. >> >> Mark [demime found a multipart/alternative section which it tried to parse but could not find any section which it could render. Please send plain text.] Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as sjnnock at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive From eyera3 at gmail.com Sat Dec 5 12:04:59 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 11:04:59 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] hs6 SUs for sale Message-ID: <173126440912051104y15e6dae0p723748582c8586cf@mail.gmail.com> http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/pts/1490716861.html no financial involevment -- I Erbs Portland, OR From eyera3 at gmail.com Sat Dec 5 12:06:31 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 11:06:31 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] MGC GT for sale Message-ID: <173126440912051106nb0cb78dl1c52a16b2e2babcf@mail.gmail.com> http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/cto/1492649119.html willing to go check it out if interested -- I Erbs Portland, OR From ronald-ray at sbcglobal.net Sat Dec 5 12:30:07 2009 From: ronald-ray at sbcglobal.net (Ron Ray) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 13:30:07 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] harbor freight jacks In-Reply-To: References: <20091204173650.8482.qmail@server278.com> <531A11FCD2CD4BD68CBEC495ECCBB46C@GregPC> <120520090517.16310.4B19ECD20002CC0400003FB622230650629B0A02D29B9B0EBF020E03969B9A9B9CD20A0B97040C@att.net> <471534970912050907o3e4ef4bar111405fe4a189e07@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000001ca75e1$5a992dc0$0fcb8940$@net> I happen to have two of these jacks from Harbor Freight ("US General Aluminum Racing Jack"). One I bought some years ago which works fine. The other came from a friend's estate that seems to have the sudden lowering problem discussed here. So Jody may have a very valid point. However, it only takes a little practice with turning the handle to minimize the sudden lowering issue. Last week I received a mailing from Harbor Freight that included a $30 off coupon for the same jack that currently list for around $99. I friend will be purchasing a jack for himself with the coupon. It will be interesting to see how the jack he buys works in the lowering mode. Ron -----Original Message----- On Dec 5, 2009, at 12:07 PM, Jody Kerr wrote: > I find at HF that if one is no good, the whole lot are, and you need > to wait a few months until they get a fresh batch in from China. From schauss at worldnet.att.net Sat Dec 5 12:36:54 2009 From: schauss at worldnet.att.net (Peter Schauss) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 14:36:54 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Harbor Freight Jacks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20091205193717.F4073187658@autox.team.net> This is the reason that I rationalized buying a four post lift ten years ago. Peter Schauss 1963 BJ7 1980 MGB > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys- > bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pieter and Linda > Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 6:59 AM > To: Mark LaPierre > Cc: Steve Gerow; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Harbor Freight Jacks > > You are so right Mark. I have a friend who will be in a wheel chair > for life after not using Axle stands. The car was on a flat concrete > surface, on a very substantial trolley jack. The simple act of > torquing up a nut was enough for the car to slip off the jack and > fall, breaking his back and a number of ribs. Had it not been for the > fact that his head was just clear of the gearbox as the car came down > he would be dead. Our hobby is not worth dying or being crippled for, > Pieter > On 05/12/2009, at 12:09 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: From alexmm at roadrunner.com Sat Dec 5 14:20:59 2009 From: alexmm at roadrunner.com (Alex) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 16:20:59 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] wood block stands References: <637483.96385.qm@web83303.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <12F6F46EA245407181732F7E20866184@atc0f226cd3237> Norman, I use the blocks in conjunction with my hydraulic jack and multiple jack stands. == Alex in Maine "The Blue Mainie," 1960 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 "Conkling," 1946 MG TC #1321 Former owner 1957 A-H 100-6, 1967 A-H BJ8, 1965 MG Midget http://home.roadrunner.com/~alexmm ----- Original Message ----- From: Norman Nock To: healeys at autox.team.net Cc: Alex Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 2:04 PM Subject: wood block stands You forget the car is in gear and you crank the engine , your car will be off those wood blocks VERY quick ... now you have a big problem . Norman Nock --- On Sat, 12/5/09, Alex wrote: From: Alex Subject: Re: [Healeys] Harbor Freight Jacks To: "Pieter and Linda" , "Mark LaPierre" Cc: "Steve Gerow" , healeys at autox.team.net Date: Saturday, December 5, 2009, 6:14 AM Solid hardwood blocks are also useful to ensure safety. They can often be obtained from boatyards. Mine are about 2-ft long and 10 inches square. It's easy to place them at strategic points. == Alex in Maine [demime found a multipart/alternative section which it tried to parse but could not find any section which it could render. Please send plain text.] From fortee9er at yahoo.com Sat Dec 5 17:04:57 2009 From: fortee9er at yahoo.com (Jorge Garcia) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 16:04:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] FW: Harbor Freight Jacks In-Reply-To: <006601ca75c8$8cdc5780$a6950680$@net> Message-ID: <437551.55807.qm@web54505.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I get an error message when trying to use the link to the article. Even when I enter it manually it still doesn't work. --- On Sat, 12/5/09, John Sims wrote: > From: John Sims > Subject: [Healeys] FW: Harbor Freight Jacks > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Saturday, December 5, 2009, 10:32 AM > Take a look at the method that I use > that is on the Technical Page of my > site. > > http://www.healey6.com/Technical/One > Method of Raising a Car onto Jack > Stands.pdf > > > John Sims, BN6 > Aberdeen, NJ > > http://www.healey6.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Alan Seigrist > Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:59 AM > To: Pieter and Linda; Mark LaPierre; Steve Gerow; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Harbor Freight Jacks > > I also used wood 2x4s under the frame for additional > safety > > On 12/5/09, Pieter and Linda > wrote: > > You are so right Mark. I have a friend who will be in > a wheel chair > > for life after not using Axle stands. The car was on a > flat concrete > > surface, on a very substantial trolley jack. The > simple act of > > torquing up a nut was enough for the car to slip > off the jack and > > fall, breaking his back and a number of ribs. Had it > not been for the > > fact that his head was just clear of the gearbox as > the car came down > > he would be dead. Our hobby is not worth dying or > being crippled for, > > Pieter > > On 05/12/2009, at 12:09 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: > > > >> The more I read the more it is apparent that some > are actually not > >> using jack stands along with there > >> jacks. Put the car on stands before you get > underneath gents. Its > >> such cheap, easy insurance. Many > >> of these units are made in China and I don't have > to mention the > >> value they put on lives when it comes > >> to turning a profit. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as fortee9er at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From ahbn6 at verizon.net Sat Dec 5 17:33:45 2009 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2009 19:33:45 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Harbor Freight Jacks In-Reply-To: <437551.55807.qm@web54505.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <006601ca75c8$8cdc5780$a6950680$@net> <437551.55807.qm@web54505.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <011201ca760b$c5630840$502918c0$@net> Works fine for me. Alternatively you can just go to the site, access the Technical Page and on that page go to Miscellaneous and you will find it there. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: Jorge Garcia [mailto:fortee9er at yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:05 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net; John Sims Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: Harbor Freight Jacks I get an error message when trying to use the link to the article. Even when I enter it manually it still doesn't work. --- On Sat, 12/5/09, John Sims wrote: > From: John Sims > Subject: [Healeys] FW: Harbor Freight Jacks > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Saturday, December 5, 2009, 10:32 AM > Take a look at the method that I use > that is on the Technical Page of my > site. > > http://www.healey6.com/Technical/One > Method of Raising a Car onto Jack > Stands.pdf From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Sat Dec 5 20:11:35 2009 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2009 19:11:35 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Re: Tow hooks Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20091205190854.020648f8@pop.att.yahoo.com> >Hi, > >I have created a PDF and an AutoCAD 10 file for one of the front tow >bar attachement based on the drawing from >http://www.healeys.ca/towing_eyes.html >It is accurate as far as I could read the drawing but the drawing >did not have any information for the curves and radii so I guessed there. > >Let me know if anyone has the drawing for the rear tow hook and I >can create that too and dimension it if needed. > >John >'62 BT7 > >At 08:38 PM 12/3/2009 -0800, you wrote: >>Can someone make me a pattern tracing of front and rear tow hooks? I >>want to machine some for my car. Please contact off list. >>59BT7 >>I Erbs From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Sat Dec 5 21:27:34 2009 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 23:27:34 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Final alignment help needed Message-ID: <00c601ca762c$6f704df0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> I am doing a final alignment tweak on my Bt7. First off I need to get the tires aligned with each other. Can some one give me a good rule of thumb as to how much movement a tire will make with one full turn of the the cross bar tie rod end. I have the drivers tire where I want it and now I need to bring the passenger side in a bit to match up with the drivers side. One screw thread certainly doesn't cover much distance so I am thinking that 2 turns of one of the cross rod ends would move a tire inward or outward about 1/16th of an inch. Does any one have any sound figures on this adjustment. After I get the tires aligned with each other I know that I can just turn the cross bar one way or the other to adjust the tires in or out. Thanks, Mark From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Sat Dec 5 21:39:29 2009 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 23:39:29 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Trafficator Movement Message-ID: <00d101ca762e$193f9150$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> I just recently reinstalled my rebuilt trafficator in my car and noticed that it turns with the steering wheel about an inch then stops as normal. This happens when turning the wheel either way. Is there an adjustment to get the trafficator to just stay in one position at all times or is a small amount of movement like this, normal. Thanks, Mark From jodyfkerr at gmail.com Sat Dec 5 22:25:38 2009 From: jodyfkerr at gmail.com (Jody Kerr) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 22:25:38 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] harbor freight jacks In-Reply-To: References: <20091204173650.8482.qmail@server278.com> <531A11FCD2CD4BD68CBEC495ECCBB46C@GregPC> <120520090517.16310.4B19ECD20002CC0400003FB622230650629B0A02D29B9B0EBF020E03969B9A9B9CD20A0B97040C@att.net> <471534970912050907o3e4ef4bar111405fe4a189e07@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <471534970912052125k44e0466dm411ff05b1da6b9bc@mail.gmail.com> Randy, Well, The quality control group in China was trained by the finest engineers that the Lucas folks could lend them at the time. I believe they were from the wiring harness smoke containment group. :) Interestingly, over the years of buying Harbor Freight stuff, I can say that the quality has improved dramatically. We used to buy their right angle gringers as "single use and toss" tools. Now they last at least two, sometimes three uses. :) Jody On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Randy Hicks wrote: > Boy, that endorsement makes me want to rush out and buy something from them! > > Randy > > Randy Hicks > www.austinhealey100m.com > '56 100M > '55 BN1 Dealer LeMans > '62 BN7 MkII > '65 BJ8 > '53 MGTD > Healey100M at gmail.com > > > > > > > On Dec 5, 2009, at 12:07 PM, Jody Kerr wrote: > >> I find at HF that if one is no good, the whole lot are, and you need >> to wait a few months until they get a fresh batch in from China. > > -- http://www.theymightberacing.com/ 1953 Studebaker Champion 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) http://motors.shop.ebay.com/merchant/jodyfkerr <--I'm selling parts on ebay! "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." --Douglas Adams From rchaskell at earthlink.net Sun Dec 6 04:34:14 2009 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 06:34:14 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Trafficator Movement In-Reply-To: <00d101ca762e$193f9150$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> References: <00d101ca762e$193f9150$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: <4B1B96B6.7050108@earthlink.net> Mark, No adjustment per se. Watch the stator tube at the front of the steering box as someone turns the steering wheel. If the tube rotates, try tightening the nut that clamps the stator tube to the steering box. If that's not it, do you have an adjustable steering wheel? The adjustable steering wheel has two stator tubes. The trafficator (control head) mounts to the short stator tube with three screws. At the other end of the short stator tube, the tube is upset to form three keys. The long stator tube (in the steering column) fits inside the short stator tube and the keys slide in a slot in the long stator tube. Any slop with the keys/slot will cause the head to rotate. The long stator tube is prone to cracking at the end of the slot, which will increase the slop. The short stator tube has a plate that the control head mounts to and a larger plate that gets clamped to the steering wheel by three grub screws. Does it take much effort to rotate the large diameter plate? That would increase the tendency for the trafficator to rotate. Try lubricating the spring loaded joint (from the front side) and see if that helps. How soon do you want to fix this? If needed, I can bring a new long stator tube to Spring Tune-Up at the Manhensmiths in April. Or it you want to do it sooner, I could head north some weekend. Bob Mark LaPierre wrote: > I just recently reinstalled my rebuilt trafficator in my car and noticed that > it turns with the steering > wheel about an inch then stops as normal. This happens when turning the > wheel either way. Is there an adjustment to get the trafficator to just stay > in one position at all times or is a small amount of movement like this, > normal. > > Thanks, Mark > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as rchaskell at earthlink.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From healey.nut at gmail.com Sun Dec 6 05:32:06 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 20:32:06 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Trafficator Movement In-Reply-To: <00d101ca762e$193f9150$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> References: <00d101ca762e$193f9150$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: Mark - At the front end of the steering box, where the wires come out of the steering box, is how the trafficator is fixed in place. There's a little brass nut that clamps down on a little brass olive (like a washer) that cinches down on the stator tube. If that nut is loose or the olive is missing, your trafficator will move. You do need to fix this. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: > I just recently reinstalled my rebuilt trafficator in my car and noticed > that > it turns with the steering > wheel about an inch then stops as normal. This happens when turning the > wheel either way. Is there an adjustment to get the trafficator to just > stay > in one position at all times or is a small amount of movement like this, > normal. > > Thanks, Mark > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From richchrysler at quickclic.net Sun Dec 6 08:10:01 2009 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 10:10:01 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Trafficator Movement References: <00d101ca762e$193f9150$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: Mark, The symptoms you describe almost certainly indicate that the machined slot in the top end (steering wheel end) of the long stator tube has widened, allowing excessive rotaotion of the entire switch head. As Bob described, the base of the slot is very crack prone, which makes the condition worse. New stator tubes are available though they usually need a bit of careful file dressing of the milled slot to allow a good smoth fit of everything. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark LaPierre" To: Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 11:39 PM Subject: [Healeys] Trafficator Movement >I just recently reinstalled my rebuilt trafficator in my car and noticed >that > it turns with the steering > wheel about an inch then stops as normal. This happens when turning the > wheel either way. Is there an adjustment to get the trafficator to just > stay > in one position at all times or is a small amount of movement like this, > normal. > > Thanks, Mark > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richchrysler at quickclic.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From ynotink at msn.com Sun Dec 6 10:10:02 2009 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 17:10:02 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] harbor freight jacks In-Reply-To: <471534970912052125k44e0466dm411ff05b1da6b9bc@mail.gmail.com> References: <20091204173650.8482.qmail@server278.com>, , <531A11FCD2CD4BD68CBEC495ECCBB46C@GregPC>, <120520090517.16310.4B19ECD20002CC0400003FB622230650629B0A02D29B9B0EBF020E03969B9A9B9CD20A0B97040C@att.net>, , <471534970912050907o3e4ef4bar111405fe4a189e07@mail.gmail.com>, , <471534970912052125k44e0466dm411ff05b1da6b9bc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: This topic, while easy to treat humorously, has serious ramifications that could easily turn into a political argument. I have determined never to buy a Chinese made product if there is an alternative available. That is getting harder and harder to do, but a few years ago when my wife asked what I wanted for Christmas I said i wanted a bench vise. As a result I got a very heavy, compact package under the tree that turned out to be a four inch (primitively finished) Chinese made bench vise from Home Depot. Joining in the recent holiday tradition of returning gifts the day after Christmas, I went back to Home Depot and found a replacement for it proudly labeled "Made in England" For less than $10 difference I now own a high quality tool that I am confident was not made by a prisoner working for slave wages or having his body parted out when he is no longer useful to the collective. The communists said they would sell us the rope with which they will hang us. I think our dependence on Chinese goods is the first step. Bill Lawrence > Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 22:25:38 -0700 > From: jodyfkerr at gmail.com > To: Healey100M at gmail.com > CC: healeys at autox.team.net; clyde.stutzman at att.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] harbor freight jacks > > Randy, > > Well, The quality control group in China was trained by the finest > engineers that the Lucas folks could lend them at the time. I believe > they were from the wiring harness smoke containment group. :) > > Interestingly, over the years of buying Harbor Freight stuff, I can > say that the quality has improved dramatically. We used to buy their > right angle gringers as "single use and toss" tools. Now they last at > least two, sometimes three uses. :) > > Jody > > On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Randy Hicks wrote: > > Boy, that endorsement makes me want to rush out and buy something from them! > > > > Randy > > > > Randy Hicks > > www.austinhealey100m.com > > '56 100M > > '55 BN1 Dealer LeMans > > '62 BN7 MkII > > '65 BJ8 > > '53 MGTD > > Healey100M at gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 5, 2009, at 12:07 PM, Jody Kerr wrote: > > > >> I find at HF that if one is no good, the whole lot are, and you need > >> to wait a few months until they get a fresh batch in from China. > > > > > > > > -- > http://www.theymightberacing.com/ > 1953 Studebaker Champion > 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) > 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) > 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) > 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) > http://motors.shop.ebay.com/merchant/jodyfkerr <--I'm selling parts on ebay! > > "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn > from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent > disinclination to do so." > --Douglas Adams > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as ynotink at msn.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From mandmschneider at comcast.net Sun Dec 6 10:44:03 2009 From: mandmschneider at comcast.net (Mark Schneider) Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 09:44:03 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 2010 Austin-Healey Rendezvous Message-ID: <6BE9629F-D7BF-43D2-9FA8-9258943919FC@comcast.net> Healey Listers, Fabulous Oregon scenery and hospitality await Austin-Healey owners attending the 2010 Austin-Healey USA Rendezvous, June 28 through July 2 in Eugene Oregon. Event headquarters is the Valley River Inn on the banks of the Willamette River. Situated between the Cascades Mountains and the Oregon Coast Mountain Range, Eugene is surrounded by great touring roads, exceptional vineyards and beautiful river vistas. Eugene is also the home of the University of Oregon and many cultural amentities. The Austin-Healey Club of Oregon is hosting this Rendezvous. Detailed plans are well along in development as is evidenced on the Oregon Club website at http://healey-oregon.org/Rendezvous. The website presents the registration form and will be updated frequently as planning proceeds. Marks 3 '66 BJ8 From pennell at cox.net Sun Dec 6 11:55:34 2009 From: pennell at cox.net (pennell at cox.net) Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 13:55:34 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Trafficator Movement In-Reply-To: <00d101ca762e$193f9150$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: <20091206135534.IQ78Y.67527.imail@eastrmwml32> Mark, I had this issue when restoring my BN7 some time ago. To take care of the slop in the slot of the long tube I welded two new spots on the short tube in the same location as the orig. Then with careful use of a Dremel and numerous trial and error fits I got a nice fit of one tube in the other and no rotation of the traf. Hope this helps Keith Pennell ---- Mark LaPierre wrote: > I just recently reinstalled my rebuilt trafficator in my car and noticed that > it turns with the steering > wheel about an inch then stops as normal. This happens when turning the > wheel either way. Is there an adjustment to get the trafficator to just stay > in one position at all times or is a small amount of movement like this, > normal. > > Thanks, Mark From stmiller96 at hotmail.com Sun Dec 6 13:00:47 2009 From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller) Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 15:00:47 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] E-bay top Message-ID: Anyone know if this top is for later 100-6/3000 ? Says Bugeye, but it's not for a Sprite at all. Item #200414114344 The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/videos-tours.aspx?h=7sec&slideid=1 &media=aero-shake-7second&listid=1&stop=1&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-U S:WWL_WIN_7secdemo:122009 From MBran89793 at aol.com Sun Dec 6 15:45:17 2009 From: MBran89793 at aol.com (MBran89793 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 17:45:17 EST Subject: [Healeys] E-bay top Message-ID: Hi Shawn- With just the one picture for review I would have to say that it looks more like a set of top bows for a BT7. That is just my humble opinion as an original owner of a '60 BT7. I still have 2 sets of top bows on hand and could be talked into parting with one at a reasonable price. Marion Brantley Tampa Bay AHC-Delegate In a message dated 12/6/2009 3:53:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, stmiller96 at hotmail.com writes: Anyone know if this top is for later 100-6/3000 ? Says Bugeye, but it's not for a Sprite at all. Item #200414114344 The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/videos-tours.aspx?h=7sec&slideid= 1 &media=aero-shake-7second&listid=1&stop=1&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en- U S:WWL_WIN_7secdemo:122009 Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as mbran89793 at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive From healeybruce at roadrunner.com Sun Dec 6 18:05:17 2009 From: healeybruce at roadrunner.com (Healey Bruce) Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 17:05:17 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] harbor freight jacks References: <20091204173650.8482.qmail@server278.com><531A11FCD2CD4BD68CBEC495ECCBB46C@GregPC><120520090517.16310.4B19ECD20002CC0400003FB622230650629B0A02D29B9B0EBF020E03969B9A9B9CD20A0B97040C@att.net><471534970912050907o3e4ef4bar111405fe4a189e07@mail.gmail.com> <471534970912052125k44e0466dm411ff05b1da6b9bc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001401ca76d9$5789f440$9001a8c0@home> My right angle grinder didn't even finish the first job before it was smoking like it was on fire. Oh well. For $19.99 what can I expect? Bruce Steele 1960 BN7 Brea, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jody Kerr" To: "Randy Hicks" Cc: ; Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 9:25 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] harbor freight jacks > Randy, > > Well, The quality control group in China was trained by the finest > engineers that the Lucas folks could lend them at the time. I believe > they were from the wiring harness smoke containment group. :) > > Interestingly, over the years of buying Harbor Freight stuff, I can > say that the quality has improved dramatically. We used to buy their > right angle gringers as "single use and toss" tools. Now they last at > least two, sometimes three uses. :) > > Jody > > On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Randy Hicks wrote: >> Boy, that endorsement makes me want to rush out and buy something from >> them! >> >> Randy >> >> Randy Hicks >> www.austinhealey100m.com >> '56 100M >> '55 BN1 Dealer LeMans >> '62 BN7 MkII >> '65 BJ8 >> '53 MGTD >> Healey100M at gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Dec 5, 2009, at 12:07 PM, Jody Kerr wrote: >> >>> I find at HF that if one is no good, the whole lot are, and you need >>> to wait a few months until they get a fresh batch in from China. >> >> > > > > -- > http://www.theymightberacing.com/ > 1953 Studebaker Champion > 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) > 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) > 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) > 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) > http://motors.shop.ebay.com/merchant/jodyfkerr <--I'm selling parts on > ebay! > > "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn > from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent > disinclination to do so." > --Douglas Adams > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeybruce at roadrunner.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From ahbn6 at verizon.net Sun Dec 6 18:58:29 2009 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 20:58:29 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] harbor freight jacks In-Reply-To: <001401ca76d9$5789f440$9001a8c0@home> References: <20091204173650.8482.qmail@server278.com><531A11FCD2CD4BD68CBEC495ECCBB46C@GregPC><120520090517.16310.4B19ECD20002CC0400003FB622230650629B0A02D29B9B0EBF020E03969B9A9B9CD20A0B97040C@att.net><471534970912050907o3e4ef4bar111405fe4a189e07@mail.gmail.com> <471534970912052125k44e0466dm411ff05b1da6b9bc@mail.gmail.com> <001401ca76d9$5789f440$9001a8c0@home> Message-ID: <016d01ca76e0$c6454220$52cfc660$@net> And, Friday I just got a power tool stand (29.99) that was missing the four lower braces making it useless. Will have an interesting telephone call with them Monday morning. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Healey Bruce Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 8:05 PM To: Jody Kerr; Randy Hicks Cc: healeys at autox.team.net; clyde.stutzman at att.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] harbor freight jacks My right angle grinder didn't even finish the first job before it was smoking like it was on fire. Oh well. For $19.99 what can I expect? Bruce Steele 1960 BN7 Brea, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jody Kerr" To: "Randy Hicks" Cc: ; Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 9:25 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] harbor freight jacks > Randy, > > Well, The quality control group in China was trained by the finest > engineers that the Lucas folks could lend them at the time. I believe > they were from the wiring harness smoke containment group. :) > > Interestingly, over the years of buying Harbor Freight stuff, I can > say that the quality has improved dramatically. We used to buy their > right angle gringers as "single use and toss" tools. Now they last at > least two, sometimes three uses. :) > > Jody > > On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Randy Hicks wrote: >> Boy, that endorsement makes me want to rush out and buy something from >> them! >> >> Randy >> >> Randy Hicks >> www.austinhealey100m.com >> '56 100M >> '55 BN1 Dealer LeMans >> '62 BN7 MkII >> '65 BJ8 >> '53 MGTD >> Healey100M at gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Dec 5, 2009, at 12:07 PM, Jody Kerr wrote: >> >>> I find at HF that if one is no good, the whole lot are, and you need >>> to wait a few months until they get a fresh batch in from China. >> >> > > > > -- > http://www.theymightberacing.com/ > 1953 Studebaker Champion > 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) > 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) > 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) > 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) > http://motors.shop.ebay.com/merchant/jodyfkerr <--I'm selling parts on > ebay! > > "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn > from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent > disinclination to do so." > --Douglas Adams > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeybruce at roadrunner.com > > http://www.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as ahbn6 at verizon.net http://www.team.net/archive From healey.nut at gmail.com Sun Dec 6 19:27:35 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 10:27:35 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] harbor freight jacks In-Reply-To: <001401ca76d9$5789f440$9001a8c0@home> References: <20091204173650.8482.qmail@server278.com> <531A11FCD2CD4BD68CBEC495ECCBB46C@GregPC> <120520090517.16310.4B19ECD20002CC0400003FB622230650629B0A02D29B9B0EBF020E03969B9A9B9CD20A0B97040C@att.net> <471534970912050907o3e4ef4bar111405fe4a189e07@mail.gmail.com> <471534970912052125k44e0466dm411ff05b1da6b9bc@mail.gmail.com> <001401ca76d9$5789f440$9001a8c0@home> Message-ID: The grinder I have in California bought from HF 8 years ago is still going strong. It makes a real racket, but it grinds like there's no tomorrow! Made by the "Chicago Tool Company"... uh huh, right.... Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Healey Bruce wrote: > My right angle grinder didn't even finish the first job before it was > smoking like it was on fire. Oh well. For $19.99 what can I expect? > > Bruce Steele > 1960 BN7 > Brea, CA From healey.nut at gmail.com Sun Dec 6 23:03:00 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:03:00 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] harbor freight jacks In-Reply-To: References: <20091204173650.8482.qmail@server278.com> <531A11FCD2CD4BD68CBEC495ECCBB46C@GregPC> <120520090517.16310.4B19ECD20002CC0400003FB622230650629B0A02D29B9B0EBF020E03969B9A9B9CD20A0B97040C@att.net> <471534970912050907o3e4ef4bar111405fe4a189e07@mail.gmail.com> <471534970912052125k44e0466dm411ff05b1da6b9bc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I'm the only guy on the list living in the proximity of China so... I guess you don't want the Chinese to buy our Johnson & Johnson and Dow Chemical cleaning products or Proctor and Gamble Toothpaste or washing powder, they buy ALOT of this stuff. The Chinese also they buy alot of Boeing Airplanes, Caterpillar Equipment and.... shock/horror ... GM's most profitable market in the world is their Buick division selling cars in China. Buicks are all over China - it's a preferred car brand there, viewed as high quality for a good price. My company car in China is a Buick. For my business I also buy a huge amount of Herman Miller chairs, Interface carpet and CISCO & Polycom phone systems and networking equipment. All made in the US. Much of what my company buys is installed in China. I honestly can't remember the last time I bought a hydraulic jack made in the USA, possibly 30 years ago? I think before China they were made in Taiwan, and before that Mexico. Having grown up in the region, and my father having fought the communists from 1950 to 1975, all I can say is if you asked him what he thinks about China today, he'd be proud to say that this is what he was fighting for. Everyone seems to forget that prior to 1975, China was a hermit kingdom with alot of nukes (just like N. Korea)... Mao alone was responsible for almost 50 million deaths of his own citizens. Today's China is a country in serious transition, clearly on the road to democratic reform sometime in the next few decades. Having done alot of business there in many respects China's market is far more open and capitalist than it is in the US. One thing to think about China's corporate tax is 25%, the US? .... 40%. In fact the US has the second highest corporate tax rate in the world. The Chinese industrial transition has its ugly warts, no doubt, but so did the US transition from an agrarian society to an industrial society at the turn of the 20th century. But hey, taxing companies is one sure way to kill jobs, well that and having 12 million illegals in our country. Let's tax those evil rich companies to pay for the bloated budgets in Washington!!! (hint: the rest of the world has figured out that high corporate taxes are basically the same thing as an employment tax). How about that evil socialist paradise France? Corporate tax rate = 33%. So before repeating some convenient populist falsehoods that the media and politicians spew from their soapboxes (for their own political gain), you have to think of the big picture. The problem in the US isn't that it "doesn't make anything," the problem is the government does nothing to encourage business to hire people and be more competitive. Alan From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Sun Dec 6 12:30:51 2009 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 11:30:51 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Harbor Freight Jacks In-Reply-To: <011201ca760b$c5630840$502918c0$@net> References: <006601ca75c8$8cdc5780$a6950680$@net> <437551.55807.qm@web54505.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <011201ca760b$c5630840$502918c0$@net> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20091206112820.02049590@pop.att.yahoo.com> The link did not work for me either. I probably worked for you because it is cached on your system. Also, the link you sent was not complete. The complete link is: http://www.healey6.com/Technical/One%20Method%20of%20Raising%20a%20Car%20onto%20Jack%20Stands.pdf At 07:33 PM 12/5/2009 -0500, John Sims wrote: >Works fine for me.... >there. > >John Sims, BN6 >Aberdeen, NJ > > > From: John Sims > > Take a look at the method that I use > > that is on the Technical Page of my > > site. > > > > http://www.healey6.com/Technical/One > > Method of Raising a Car onto Jack > > Stands.pdf >_______________________________________________ From mayorrichard at hotmail.com Mon Dec 7 00:38:37 2009 From: mayorrichard at hotmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 07:38:37 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Harbor Fright Message-ID: Listmates, I always try to buy USA. However, a couple of years ago I needed a pitman arm puller. Harbor Fright had one for about $6.95. It was dirt cheap and I knew it was crap, but I figured I would, maybe, only use it once or twice over the next 20 years after I used it this one time. I mean, why would I spend 3 or 4 times that much for an American made puller if I was only going to use it once or twice over the next 20 years? So, I bought it, took it home, and tried to pull the pitman arm off of my Healey steering box. You guessed it. One of the arms of the puller snapped off immediately. Remember this one important thing. If you buy that cheap Chineese shit from Harbor Fright, and if you don't use it within 30 days after your purchase and discover it is crap, they will not give you a refund. And, yes I do know how to spell freight. Richard Mayor _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/videos-tours.aspx?h=7sec&slideid=1 &media=aero-shake-7second&listid=1&stop=1&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-U S:WWL_WIN_7secdemo:122009 From healey.nut at gmail.com Mon Dec 7 02:32:17 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 17:32:17 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Harbor Fright In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Maybe you can use that cheap chinese sh*t pitman arm puller to fix the cheap chinese sh*t airliner you're flying on your next trip: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACAC_ARJ21 Tickets are cheap cheap cheap! Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 3:38 PM, richard mayor wrote: > Listmates, > I always try to buy USA. However, a couple of years ago I needed a pitman > arm > puller. Harbor Fright had one for about $6.95. It was dirt cheap and I knew > it > was crap, but I figured I would, maybe, only use it once or twice over the > next 20 years after I used it this one time. I mean, why would I spend 3 or > 4 > times that much for an American made puller if I was only going to use it > once > or twice over the next 20 years? So, I bought it, took it home, and tried > to > pull the pitman arm off of my Healey steering box. You guessed it. One of > the > arms of the puller snapped off immediately. > Remember this one important thing. If you buy that cheap Chineese shit from > Harbor Fright, and if you don't use it within 30 days after your purchase > and > discover it is crap, they will not give you a refund. > And, yes I do know how to spell freight. > Richard Mayor From coudesluijs at chello.nl Mon Dec 7 04:02:04 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 12:02:04 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Harbor Fright In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B1CE0AC.8010209@chello.nl> Made in China is not a garantee that it is of bad quality, neither is made in the UK, USA or Germany a garantee that it is of good quality. Some German tools are absolute crap, we know what happened to the British car industry because of their quality and US products are hardly known accross the pond apart from air planes. It all comes down to what specifications an item is made to and we also have to consider that DIN, SAE, ISO, EU etc. standards should only be regarded as minimum requirements. Most seriously produced items well exceed these standards. In general: Expensive means that the chance of the item being of at least of reasonable quality is higher than of cheap items, but some cheap items are as good or better than expensive items. This is especially so with hand tools. Snap-on, Facom, Belzer, Hazet are all good quality and expensive. But some of the cheap Chinese tools are just as good but the brands change so fast you cannot keep track of them. What is different is often the finish of the product. Years ago (ca. 1985) I did a consumer test on handtools: an expensive set of socket spanners from Stahlwille (ca. $400) was of less quality than the same cheap Chinese made set from the HEMA (say the Dutch equivalent of Sears) at around $40. OK the chrome plating on the Chinese set was crap, but is was stronger, more wear resistant (harder) and more accurate on sizes (which is very important). Kees Oudesluijs NL From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Dec 7 06:50:48 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:50:48 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Harbor Fright In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hardly worth the wearand tear; fuel; your time; and the aggravation to make the trip to return it. At one of chains, Canadian Tire, they lend out certain tools for free ... sort of. They give you an unused tool, you pay for it and return it within some time period for a full refund. If it works well, I usually end up keeping it. I haven't done this for awhile, so I'm not 100% sure that they still promote this. > Harbor Fright had one for about $6.95. > Remember this one important thing. If you buy that cheap Chineese shit from > Harbor Fright, and if you don't use it within 30 days after your purchase and > discover it is crap, they will not give you a refund. > Richard Mayor From ahbn6 at verizon.net Mon Dec 7 07:54:11 2009 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 09:54:11 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Harbor Freight Jacks In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20091206112820.02049590@pop.att.yahoo.com> References: <006601ca75c8$8cdc5780$a6950680$@net> <437551.55807.qm@web54505.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <011201ca760b$c5630840$502918c0$@net> <6.2.3.4.2.20091206112820.02049590@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <019401ca774d$23a62a80$6af27f80$@net> OK I have loaded a TinyURL button on both browsers (I use Firefox AND IE - I also use Google Chrome but I have not figured out how to put a button on it.) Anyway, I promise to use TinyURL in the future so that we don't have excessive email exchanges trying to figure out these long links. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: john spaur [mailto:jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net] Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 2:31 PM To: John Sims Cc: 'Jorge Garcia'; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: Harbor Freight Jacks The link did not work for me either. I probably worked for you because it is cached on your system. Also, the link you sent was not complete. The complete link is: http://www.healey6.com/Technical/One%20Method%20of%20Raising%20a%20Car%20ont o%20Jack%20Stands.pdf At 07:33 PM 12/5/2009 -0500, John Sims wrote: >Works fine for me.... >there. From jimf at frakes-eng.com Mon Dec 7 08:23:51 2009 From: jimf at frakes-eng.com (Frakes, Jim) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 10:23:51 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] cold air box 3000 In-Reply-To: <173126440912040853s11a3d448s5c1eb1e8a358f41c@mail.gmail.com> References: <173126440912040853s11a3d448s5c1eb1e8a358f41c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Try this web site. He makes them and they are very good. He has three Healeys and has done restoration on over 60 Healeys including the paint and body on two of mine. He has lots of stainless re=pro parts also. Jim Frakes http://www.wickerizedhealey.com/manparts.htm -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of I Erbs Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 11:54 AM To: healey help Subject: [Healeys] cold air box 3000 looking for info on making a le mans or Le Mans or Lemans :) type cold air box for my MKI 3000. If you have done this please contact me. Or any ideas on how to improve airflow to the 1 /34" carbs. Thanks -- I Erbs Portland, OR Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as jimf at frakes-eng.com http://www.team.net/archive CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and it may contain information that is privileged or confidential. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient (or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us by telephone at the number listed above or by return e-mail. From Healey100M at gmail.com Mon Dec 7 09:18:05 2009 From: Healey100M at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:18:05 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] cold air box 3000 In-Reply-To: References: <173126440912040853s11a3d448s5c1eb1e8a358f41c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Jim, he is "Currently Out of Stock" on everything on the web site. Is he still "in the business"? Randy Randy Hicks www.austinhealey100m.com '56 100M '55 BN1 Dealer LeMans '62 BN7 MkII '65 BJ8 '53 MGTD Healey100M at gmail.com On Dec 7, 2009, at 10:23 AM, Frakes, Jim wrote: > Try this web site. He makes them and they are very good. He has three > Healeys and has done restoration on over 60 Healeys including the paint > and body on two of mine. He has lots of stainless re=pro parts also. > > > Jim Frakes > http://www.wickerizedhealey.com/manparts.htm > > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of I Erbs > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 11:54 AM > To: healey help > Subject: [Healeys] cold air box 3000 > > looking for info on making a le mans or Le Mans or Lemans :) type cold > air > box for my MKI 3000. If you have done this please contact me. Or any > ideas > on how to improve airflow to the 1 /34" carbs. > Thanks > > -- > I Erbs > Portland, OR > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as jimf at frakes-eng.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for the use of the > individual or entity to which it is addressed and it may contain information > that is privileged or confidential. If the reader of this message is not the > intended recipient (or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the > intended recipient), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, > distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you have > received this e-mail in error, please notify us by telephone at the number > listed above or by return e-mail. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey100m at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From steveg at abrazosdata.com Mon Dec 7 09:27:10 2009 From: steveg at abrazosdata.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Steve=20B.=20Gerow?=) Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 08:27:10 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?Harbor_Freight_Pittman_puller_-_was_HF_j?= =?iso-8859-1?q?acks?= Message-ID: <20091207162710.32093.qmail@hoster902.com> I bought the same puller as Richard did a few years back - it's worked fine on at least 3 Healey pittmans (pittmen?) since then. As I recall we sprayed them all with Sili-Kroil first. My BN6 buddy Peter Roses ground a total of about 1/4" off the forks to make it grip the ears on the Healey pittman arm better. I also broke one of their $3 pickle forks - the one with the 3 interchangeable sizes. Bought a one-piece one there for a few bucks after that which has worked fine several times. Of course what we're all doing here is proving HF's quality to be spotty over time. But it's also not 100% bad. With all respect to those who disagree - I agree with Alan re China. I would also say that if my only other choice were to buy a $300 racing jack made here or in Britain - no sale. I have a steel k-mart floor jack that's heavy as hell but works fine, which cost probably $39 20 years ago. Nor would I buy a $70 pittman puller from Snap-On. The sale was made because the price is so inexpensive. There's a market there where none existed before. We can afford to buy a specialized tool like a pittman puller to use once and then loan out to our friends. FWIW - I also bought one of the $20 angle grinders and will report back if it craps out. -- Steve Gerow BN6 From eyera3 at gmail.com Mon Dec 7 09:41:38 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 08:41:38 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] cold air box 3000 In-Reply-To: References: <173126440912040853s11a3d448s5c1eb1e8a358f41c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <173126440912070841l31e97dfdi2f2506b38fde56c5@mail.gmail.com> all parts are currently our of stock! Plus cold air boxes are for 4 cyl cars. Nice looking stuff but its all vapor ware. Thanks On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 7:23 AM, Frakes, Jim wrote: > Try this web site. He makes them and they are very good. He has three > Healeys and has done restoration on over 60 Healeys including the paint > and body on two of mine. He has lots of stainless re=pro parts also. > > > Jim Frakes > http://www.wickerizedhealey.com/manparts.htm > > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of I Erbs > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 11:54 AM > To: healey help > Subject: [Healeys] cold air box 3000 > > looking for info on making a le mans or Le Mans or Lemans :) type cold > air > box for my MKI 3000. If you have done this please contact me. Or any > ideas > on how to improve airflow to the 1 /34" carbs. > Thanks > > -- > I Erbs > Portland, OR > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as jimf at frakes-eng.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for the use of > the individual or entity to which it is addressed and it may contain > information that is privileged or confidential. If the reader of this > message is not the intended recipient (or the employee or agent responsible > to deliver it to the intended recipient), you are hereby notified that any > dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. > If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us by telephone at > the number listed above or by return e-mail. > > > -- I Erbs Portland, OR From ahbn6 at verizon.net Mon Dec 7 09:57:36 2009 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 11:57:36 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] cold air box 3000 In-Reply-To: References: <173126440912040853s11a3d448s5c1eb1e8a358f41c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <01a701ca775e$6152adc0$23f80940$@net> I went onto the site and each items is noted currently out of stock. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frakes, Jim Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 10:24 AM To: I Erbs; healey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] cold air box 3000 Try this web site. He makes them and they are very good. He has three Healeys and has done restoration on over 60 Healeys including the paint and body on two of mine. He has lots of stainless re=pro parts also. Jim Frakes http://www.wickerizedhealey.com/manparts.htm -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of I Erbs Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 11:54 AM To: healey help Subject: [Healeys] cold air box 3000 looking for info on making a le mans or Le Mans or Lemans :) type cold air box for my MKI 3000. If you have done this please contact me. Or any ideas on how to improve airflow to the 1 /34" carbs. Thanks From eyera3 at gmail.com Mon Dec 7 10:09:11 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 09:09:11 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] need non-adjust streering wheel Message-ID: <173126440912070909n6f5123d2v58d5c739f30ee1c@mail.gmail.com> The steering wheel on my BT7 is very cracked and I would like to replace it. If you have a spare that is not too precious to you please send photos and price.off list to me eyera3 at gmail.com Thanks -- I Erbs Portland, OR From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Dec 7 10:53:15 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 17:53:15 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] cold air box 3000 In-Reply-To: <01a701ca775e$6152adc0$23f80940$@net> References: <173126440912040853s11a3d448s5c1eb1e8a358f41c@mail.gmail.com>, , <01a701ca775e$6152adc0$23f80940$@net> Message-ID: I went for a look also. Perhaps he makes to order. I did note that he has contact info, if anyone is interested enough. >From the page: " If you are interested in buying anything, call 260-347-5304 or email askfrank at wickerizedhealey.com. " Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen ) > each item is noted currently out of stock. From medlabinc at msn.com Mon Dec 7 11:26:08 2009 From: medlabinc at msn.com (Dick Matson) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 10:26:08 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: DR2 DR3A Wiper Motors Message-ID: What a resource. Thank you Alan ! Dick Matson / Bj8 ----- Original Message ----- From: Alan Seigrist To: David Hall Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] DR2 DR3A Wiper Motors David - Anything you've ever wanted to know about the working principles of the DR2 Wiper motor are on pages 14 - 25 here: http://www.healey6.com/Lucas%20Course/Lucas%20technical%20correspondence%20co urse%20-%20session%208.pdf In addition, a sample wiring circuit is on page 16 here (with wire color): http://www.healey6.com/Lucas%20Course/Lucas%20technical%20correspondence%20co urse%20-%20session%206.pdf If you are looking for the wiring diagram for your specific Healey, you should refer to your shop manual. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 1:11 AM, David Hall > wrote: > Would anybody who has wiring diagrams for both wiper motors be kind enough > to > forward a copy of the drawing or a schematic to me. > Regards David Hall _______________________________________________ From acmiller at mhcable.com Mon Dec 7 11:57:44 2009 From: acmiller at mhcable.com (Allen C Miller Jr) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:57:44 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] cold air box 3000 In-Reply-To: <01a701ca775e$6152adc0$23f80940$@net> References: <173126440912040853s11a3d448s5c1eb1e8a358f41c@mail.gmail.com> <01a701ca775e$6152adc0$23f80940$@net> Message-ID: <8E1686C8F2194EC4A6D02BC068D51BA8@ACM045> i would recommend exploring racing intake tubes vs cold air box if the objective is to improve air flow into the manifolds. cold air box on the 100M was to supply COLD air, not to serve as a ram air induction device. in fact, the cold air box as conformed can cause slight vortex disturbances interfering air supply to the rear intake. i bought a period cold air box on EBAY a few years back, and in the course of its life the back end had been hacksawed off. i asked around and was advised by an old salt that racers used to do this to ensure that airflow to the front and rear manifolds was even, and that the intended purpose of just supplying good cold air was fulfilled. From eyera3 at gmail.com Mon Dec 7 12:36:24 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:36:24 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] cold air box 3000 In-Reply-To: References: <173126440912040853s11a3d448s5c1eb1e8a358f41c@mail.gmail.com> <01a701ca775e$6152adc0$23f80940$@net> Message-ID: <173126440912071136p3287c70ejec4edbc7c00db5fc@mail.gmail.com> I emailed him to see what's up will let you all know when I do, or if we make something on our own that worsk. Interesting that this has not been done befoe fo rhe 6 cyl cars.. If so I have not found it yet On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 9:53 AM, wrote: > I went for a look also. Perhaps he makes to order. I did note that he has > contact info, if anyone is interested enough. > > >From the page: > " > If you are interested in buying anything, call 260-347-5304 or email > askfrank at wickerizedhealey.com. > " > > Robert Duquette > Ottawa ON Canada > 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) > 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) > 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen ) > > > each item is noted currently out of stock. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- I Erbs Portland, OR From grumpyinloomis at ssctv.net Mon Dec 7 13:05:09 2009 From: grumpyinloomis at ssctv.net (Jerry Costanzo) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 12:05:09 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Extra engine, break it down or leave it together ? Message-ID: Not to break up the conversation about Chinese parts but: I have an extra engine, which is now stored in a barn in a plastic bag. The pistons, head, cam, crank and rods are all in place from whenever this was taken out of a BJ7 or 8. In your opinion, is it better to let it sit together or take it apart and clean it up before the rust puts it into a solid state? I have no problems with storage room. I can store it either way. The barn does not leak but there is no moisture control in there. Jerry From tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl Mon Dec 7 13:25:13 2009 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 21:25:13 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Harmonic Balancer Message-ID: This was posted on Volvo 1800 list, I think it's worth a reading if you do not know what harmonic balancers are for (just like I did not know..) Tadek Re: Harmonic Balancer Posted by: "zemog1ja" zemog1ja at yahoo.com zemog1ja Sun Dec 6, 2009 7:07 am (PST) Jim, I've been reading the responses to the the harmonic balancer post and even though I feel that it's up to each individual owner to do whatever to their engines, perhaps a better explanation about the mechanics of a vibration damper will help all of us to decide whether to install one or not. When the crankshaft throw receives the force of the piston on the power stroke, the crankshaft twists slightly. This twisting may be so minute that is not measurable. It may only strain the crankshaft, causing stress in the metal without exterior movement. But the heavy crankshaft resists the strain, and after the initial push from the piston and connecting rod, pushes back. In effect, the piston tries to bend the crankshaft, and the crankshaft tries to straighten itself. When the crankshaft pushes back, it over-reacts and then tries to straighten itself in the other direction. These oscillations take place for several cycles and finally die out, similar to a tuning fork. Everytime there is a firing impulse in the engine, the crankshaft gets a push and starts vibrating again. At certain speeds, the pushes received by the crankshaft occur simultaneously with the efforts of the crankshaft to straighten itself. This increases the magnitude of the osciallations. At certain speeds the vibration can become so great that the shaft will break. This vibration is called torsional vibration. It can cause heavy wear on timing chains. The sprocket at the fron of the crankshaft constantly osciallates against the chain. Torsional vibration rarely causes any problems at the flywheel end of the engine because the heavy flywheel dampens the oscillations. The harmonic balancer, located at the front pulley on the crankshaft, is made of an outer heavy ring, a rubber ring, and an inner hub. When the crankshaft oscillates, the balancer oscillates with it. When it gets to the end of the oscillation, the outer ring keeps going and twists the rubber slightly. The outer ring stretches the rubber and dampens the torsional vibration in the crankshaft. Since each engine will give out different oscillations then the damper must be tuned to the crankshaft. Whether the harmonic balancers are made of rubber rings or frictional material and springs these willl wear out and must be replaced. Sorry about the long winded explanation but it was the only way to fully explain the function and purpose of the harmonic balancer. Bill63S From tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl Mon Dec 7 13:25:14 2009 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 21:25:14 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] H6/H4 choke levers Message-ID: <14D1DB509FB74711A5F1E7DEC0900981@tm> This might be a stupid question, but why are they not identical? One is S shape and the other is straight.. From williamsantiks at hotmail.com Mon Dec 7 13:49:10 2009 From: williamsantiks at hotmail.com (William Berg) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 12:49:10 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] david leong please contact me Message-ID: Hello David, It's William Berg who purchased your BN1 Healey 8 years ago. Could you please conatx me off the list. I have a Porsche question for you. 707 332 0890 _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail gives you a free,exclusive gift. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/hotmail_bl1/hotmail_bl1.aspx?oci d=PID23879::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-ww:WM_IMHM_7:092009 From eyera3 at gmail.com Mon Dec 7 14:16:49 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:16:49 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Extra engine, break it down or leave it together ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <173126440912071316l7d49a2ecle55c252e1fa32222@mail.gmail.com> IMHO, I would fill the cyl with marvel or or pentrating oil as well as the crankcase. Spin the engine by hand and put decicant to absorb moisture and seal in a plastic bag. On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Jerry Costanzo wrote: > Not to break up the conversation about Chinese parts but: > > I have an extra engine, which is now stored in a barn in a plastic bag. > The > pistons, head, cam, crank and rods are all in place from whenever this was > taken out of a BJ7 or 8. In your opinion, is it better to let it sit > together or take it apart and clean it up before the rust puts it into a > solid > state? I have no problems with storage room. I can store it either way. > The barn does not leak but there is no moisture control in there. > > Jerry > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- I Erbs Portland, OR From tjmorrio at colby.edu Mon Dec 7 14:29:15 2009 From: tjmorrio at colby.edu (Thomas Morrione) Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 16:29:15 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Extra engine, break it down or leave it together ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Jerry (et. al) -- will be very interested in replies to your question. I have a 66 BJ8 engine that was dismantled and is now in boxes. Head and block have light rust from moisture as does the crank. Pistons, rods, etc. are in box that seems to have been spared water damage. Tom On 12/7/09 3:05 PM, "Jerry Costanzo" wrote: > Not to break up the conversation about Chinese parts but: > > I have an extra engine, which is now stored in a barn in a plastic bag. The > pistons, head, cam, crank and rods are all in place from whenever this was > taken out of a BJ7 or 8. In your opinion, is it better to let it sit > together or take it apart and clean it up before the rust puts it into a solid > state? I have no problems with storage room. I can store it either way. > The barn does not leak but there is no moisture control in there. > > Jerry > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tjmorrio at colby.edu > > http://www.team.net/archive From tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl Mon Dec 7 14:47:31 2009 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 22:47:31 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] H6/H4 choke levers In-Reply-To: <173126440912071317p5bdf4ffege30619d0fea8ec44@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6A27911D04F24E8FA1A1DC6C93674C23@tm> Well, that much I know, but why aren't they identical??.. ________________________________________ From: I Erbs [mailto:eyera3 at gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 10:17 PM To: Tadeusz Malkiewicz Subject: Re: [Healeys] H6/H4 choke levers front and back carbs On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Tadeusz Malkiewicz wrote: This might be a stupid question, but why are they not identical? One is S shape and the other is straight.. Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com http://www.team.net/archive -- I Erbs Portland, OR From mayorrichard at hotmail.com Mon Dec 7 15:04:30 2009 From: mayorrichard at hotmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 22:04:30 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Distributor vacuum units Message-ID: Yesterday, I decided to check the vacuum unit on a distributor that I was getting ready to install in an early 3000 (Lucas DM6A). Zero, nada, nothing. I pulled out two other distributors and checked their vacuum units. Both very quickly leaked down to zero. Moss says they are not available. Does anyone have a source for these? Richard _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail gives you a free,exclusive gift. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/hotmail_bl1/hotmail_bl1.aspx?oci d=PID23879::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-ww:WM_IMHM_7:092009 From tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl Mon Dec 7 15:10:30 2009 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 23:10:30 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Acorn coil nut and coil bracket needed Message-ID: <1408C075208F41A685EEAA18DB2E21AB@tm> Hello , Would any one have a red acorn nut for the sport's coil and a bracket for it? I have located a coil, but the nut and bracket is missing.. Please contact me off-list if you have it. Best Regards, Tadek From tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl Mon Dec 7 15:13:04 2009 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 23:13:04 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] rubber bushes for overflow tubes for 100M cold air box needed Message-ID: <2FFBA12D1A5D40F28C93271ADB8F9E32@tm> Hello, I am looking for the rubber bushes for overflow tubes for 100M cold air box. If anyone has an extra set and is willing to part with it, please let me know off list, Best, Tadek From frogeye at porterscustom.com Mon Dec 7 15:15:51 2009 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (Dave Porter) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 15:15:51 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Extra engine, break it down or leave it together ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2820AB4434C6429BBFEAC2B0B8EF2888@oscar> Leave it together. Bag and silica moisture sacs inside bag. Just protect from direct water source. Condensation happens.. dave frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff blog: http://porterbikes.com/ -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jerry Costanzo Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 1:05 PM To: healeys at Autox.Team.Net Subject: [Healeys] Extra engine, break it down or leave it together ? Not to break up the conversation about Chinese parts but: I have an extra engine, which is now stored in a barn in a plastic bag. The pistons, head, cam, crank and rods are all in place from whenever this was taken out of a BJ7 or 8. In your opinion, is it better to let it sit together or take it apart and clean it up before the rust puts it into a solid state? I have no problems with storage room. I can store it either way. The barn does not leak but there is no moisture control in there. Jerry Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as frogeye at porterscustom.com http://www.team.net/archive From coudesluijs at chello.nl Mon Dec 7 15:34:07 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 23:34:07 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Extra engine, break it down or leave it together ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B1D82DF.9070102@chello.nl> Leave it in one piece but renew the oil. Pour some oil into the spark plug holes on top of the pistons. Also spray some oil (e.g WD40 into the carbs and exhaust manifold to cover the valves in oil. Turn the engine several times than fill right up completely with the cheapest oil you can get or use preservative oil, it does not make that much difference. Reinstall the plugs. Remove the waterpump and dismantle to preserve the seal or spray with WD40. Remove the clutch cover and pressure plate as they will rust to the flywheel. Spray some preservative wax on the clutch cover and flywheel and on the crankshaft around the seals. Spray some oil into the distributor to preserve the weights and springs. Cover al holes, inlet, exhaust, water pump, water ways etc. Just cover it but do not store in a plastic bag, it needs to breathe to prevent condensation. This way it will still be usable after years and years of storage and you would not have lost some bits and pieces which will inevitably happen when you take the lump apart. Do not forget to remove the oil from the engine before you try starting it up after storage, renew the old oil and fill up to the max. mark. If you don't you will wreck the engine. Kees Oudesluijs NL Jerry Costanzo schreef: > Not to break up the conversation about Chinese parts but: > > I have an extra engine, which is now stored in a barn in a plastic bag. The > pistons, head, cam, crank and rods are all in place from whenever this was > taken out of a BJ7 or 8. In your opinion, is it better to let it sit > together or take it apart and clean it up before the rust puts it into a solid > state? I have no problems with storage room. I can store it either way. > The barn does not leak but there is no moisture control in there. > > Jerry > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive From rchaskell at earthlink.net Mon Dec 7 16:32:04 2009 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 18:32:04 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Distributor vacuum units In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B1D9074.7080606@earthlink.net> http://www.advanceddistributors.com/services07.htm richard mayor wrote: > Yesterday, I decided to check the vacuum unit on a distributor that I was > getting ready to install in an early 3000 (Lucas DM6A). Zero, nada, nothing. I > pulled out two other distributors and checked their vacuum units. Both very > quickly leaked down to zero. Moss says they are not available. Does anyone > have a source for these? > Richard > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live Hotmail gives you a free,exclusive gift. > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/hotmail_bl1/hotmail_bl1.aspx?oci > d=PID23879::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-ww:WM_IMHM_7:092009 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as rchaskell at earthlink.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From rjswain at hotmail.com Mon Dec 7 16:45:26 2009 From: rjswain at hotmail.com (Rick Swain) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 23:45:26 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Distributor vacuum units In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Richard Advanced Distributors - www.advanceddistributors.com/index.htm - will rebuild your vacuum advance for you. Apparently (no personal experience yet) they do a great job at rebuilding distributors and tailoring them to your needs and their charges are reasonable. Rick Swain'59 BN4 > Subject: [Healeys] Distributor vacuum units > > Yesterday, I decided to check the vacuum unit on a distributor that I was > getting ready to install in an early 3000 (Lucas DM6A). Zero, nada, nothing. I > pulled out two other distributors and checked their vacuum units. Both very > quickly leaked down to zero. Moss says they are not available. Does anyone > have a source for these? > Richard _________________________________________________________________ Ready. Set. Get a great deal on Windows 7. See fantastic deals on Windows 7 now http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691818 From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Mon Dec 7 17:46:45 2009 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 16:46:45 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Distributor vacuum units In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Richard, we have the vacuum unit available rebuilt. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Dec 7, 2009, at 2:04 PM, richard mayor wrote: > Yesterday, I decided to check the vacuum unit on a distributor that > I was > getting ready to install in an early 3000 (Lucas DM6A). Zero, nada, > nothing. I > pulled out two other distributors and checked their vacuum units. > Both very > quickly leaked down to zero. Moss says they are not available. Does > anyone > have a source for these? > Richard > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live Hotmail gives you a free,exclusive gift. > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/hotmail_bl1/ > hotmail_bl1.aspx?oci > d=PID23879::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-ww:WM_IMHM_7:092009 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From bighealey3k at aim.com Mon Dec 7 18:05:41 2009 From: bighealey3k at aim.com (bighealey3k at aim.com) Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 20:05:41 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Extra engine, break it down or leave it together ? Message-ID: <8CC45B9B2020A74-8C90-9732@webmail-m036.sysops.aol.com> An excellent rust inhibitor for any machined surfaces on parts and metals in general for storage is LPS 3 made by LPS products. It has been used in the aircraft maintenance industry for years. It lasts for a very long time. Goes on thin and and thickens as the solvent evaporates. LPS 3 can be Googled to find a source. Ace hardware has it on line for $8.99 USD, don't know how much the shipping is. I like the 11 oz. spray can for convenience. Keeping the engine in one piece is probably the best thing to do so things do not get lost and out of order. When dismantling an engine a lot of the parts are mated to certain positions and not a good idea to mix them up due to wear patterns. Larry Wendland '67 BJ8 From yeastd at sbcglobal.net Mon Dec 7 18:10:19 2009 From: yeastd at sbcglobal.net (Dennis Yeast) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 17:10:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Extra engine, break it down or leave it together ? In-Reply-To: <4B1D82DF.9070102@chello.nl> Message-ID: <210638.85057.qm@web82703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I once heard but have never confirmed that WD-40 is a partially water based product and not the best product for rust prevention over time. Anyone know the true story? Dennis Yeast email: yeastd at sbcglobal.net --- On Mon, 12/7/09, Oudesluys wrote: From: Oudesluys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Extra engine, break it down or leave it together ? To: "Jerry Costanzo" Cc: healeys at Autox.Team.Net Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 10:34 PM Leave it in one piece but renew the oil. Pour some oil into the spark plug holes on top of the pistons. Also spray some oil (e.g WD40 into the carbs and exhaust manifold to cover the valves in oil. Turn the engine several times than fill right up completely with the cheapest oil you can get or use preservative oil, it does not make that much difference. Reinstall the plugs. Remove the waterpump and dismantle to preserve the seal or spray with WD40. Remove the clutch cover and pressure plate as they will rust to the flywheel. Spray some preservative wax on the clutch cover and flywheel and on the crankshaft around the seals. Spray some oil into the distributor to preserve the weights and springs. Cover al holes, inlet, exhaust, water pump, water ways etc. Just cover it but do not store in a plastic bag, it needs to breathe to prevent condensation. This way it will still be usable after years and years of storage and you would not have lost some bits and pieces which will inevitably happen when you take the lump apart. Do not forget to remove the oil from the engine before you try starting it up after storage, renew the old oil and fill up to the max. mark. If you don't you will wreck the engine. Kees Oudesluijs NL Jerry Costanzo schreef: > Not to break up the conversation about Chinese parts but: > > I have an extra engine, which is now stored in a barn in a plastic bag. The > pistons, head, cam, crank and rods are all in place from whenever this was > taken out of a BJ7 or 8. In your opinion, is it better to let it sit > together or take it apart and clean it up before the rust puts it into a solid > state? I have no problems with storage room. I can store it either way. > The barn does not leak but there is no moisture control in there. > > Jerry > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as yeastd at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive From sales at justbrits.com Mon Dec 7 18:39:09 2009 From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ") Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 19:39:09 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Distributor vacuum units In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B1DAE3D.1020207@justbrits.com> << Apparently (no personal experience yet) they do a great job at rebuilding distributors and tailoring them to your needs and their charges are reasonable. >> I do have experience Rick, and Jeff's work IS top- notch !!!! He IS one of my suppliers ! Recommend HIGHLY !! Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com From comkanuk at cgocable.ca Mon Dec 7 19:02:38 2009 From: comkanuk at cgocable.ca (gilbert gauthier) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 21:02:38 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Distributor vacuum units In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Le 09-12-07 ` 18:45, Rick Swain a icrit : > Richard > Advanced Distributors - www.advanceddistributors.com/index.htm - > will rebuild > your vacuum advance for you. I did business with them and i can > assure you that they do a > great job at rebuilding distributors and tailoring them to your > needs and > their charges are reasonable. > Gilbert BT7-Bn7 BN4 > >> Subject: [Healeys] Distributor vacuum units >> >> Yesterday, I decided to check the vacuum unit on a distributor that >> I was >> getting ready to install in an early 3000 (Lucas DM6A). Zero, nada, >> nothing. > I >> pulled out two other distributors and checked their vacuum units. >> Both very >> quickly leaked down to zero. Moss says they are not available. Does >> anyone >> have a source for these? >> Richard > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Ready. Set. Get a great deal on Windows 7. See fantastic deals on > Windows 7 > now > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691818 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as comkanuk at cgocable.ca > > http://www.team.net/archive From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Mon Dec 7 19:17:45 2009 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 02:17:45 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?tools?= Message-ID: <20091208021745.24103.qmail@server278.com> i usually go to Auto-Zone or Checkers if i need a specialty tool and get a loaner(you buy it and get your money back if it comes back in good condition). unfortunately, a lot of the time they do not have tools for our british cars or even old american cars. hjim From rnbmail at yahoo.com Mon Dec 7 19:52:26 2009 From: rnbmail at yahoo.com (Robert Blair) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 18:52:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Extra engine, break it down or leave it together ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <57414.38155.qm@web37901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> My opinion: For long term storage in a barn with no mositure control I would break the engine down, oil/protect all parts and store separately. Puting oil in all the holes etc is only a stop gap deal. There are storage oils/greases available. WD40 is not for storage. Plus you will know what condition the moror is in if you wish to sell it. Any buyer wil break it down anyway. Robert N. Blair Yellow 65BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com --- On Mon, 12/7/09, Jerry Costanzo wrote: > From: Jerry Costanzo > Subject: [Healeys] Extra engine, break it down or leave it together ? > To: healeys at Autox.Team.Net > Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 12:05 PM > Not to break up the conversation > about Chinese parts but: > > I have an extra engine, which is now stored in a barn in a > plastic bag. The > pistons, head, cam, crank and rods are all in place from > whenever this was > taken out of a BJ7 or 8. In your opinion, > is it better to let it sit > together or take it apart and clean it up before the rust > puts it into a solid > state? I have no problems with storage > room. I can store it either way. > The barn does not leak but there is no moisture > control in there. > > Jerry > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as rnbmail at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From eyera3 at gmail.com Mon Dec 7 19:56:18 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 18:56:18 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] cold air box 3000 In-Reply-To: <8E1686C8F2194EC4A6D02BC068D51BA8@ACM045> References: <173126440912040853s11a3d448s5c1eb1e8a358f41c@mail.gmail.com> <01a701ca775e$6152adc0$23f80940$@net> <8E1686C8F2194EC4A6D02BC068D51BA8@ACM045> Message-ID: The objective is to look cool I Erbs Sent from my iPod On Dec 7, 2009, at 10:57 AM, "Allen C Miller Jr" wrote: > i would recommend exploring racing intake tubes vs cold air box if > the objective is to improve air flow into the manifolds. cold air > box on the 100M was to supply COLD air, not to serve as a ram air > induction device. in fact, the cold air box as conformed can cause > slight vortex disturbances interfering air supply to the rear intake. > > i bought a period cold air box on EBAY a few years back, and in the > course of its life the back end had been hacksawed off. i asked > around and was advised by an old salt that racers used to do this to > ensure that airflow to the front and rear manifolds was even, and > that the intended purpose of just supplying good cold air was > fulfilled. _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca Mon Dec 7 20:27:04 2009 From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (Mirek Sharp) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 22:27:04 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Extra engine, break it down or leave it together ? References: <8CC45B9B2020A74-8C90-9732@webmail-m036.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I will second the recommendation on the LPS3. I used to spray the chrome mags on my pickup just before winter and it would last right through the cruddiest southern Ontario weather - salt and all. In the spring I would clean it off with a varsol-soaked paper towel and the wheels would be like new. In addition to being available in a spray bottle, it can be purchased in an aerosol can, but the former is more economical. In s. Ontario it is available at most industrial suppliers - I got mine at KBC tools. Cheers, Mirek > you wrote: An excellent rust inhibitor for any machined surfaces on parts > and metals in > general for storage is LPS 3 made by LPS products. From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Mon Dec 7 20:36:55 2009 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 19:36:55 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Made in China Message-ID: After seeing this I'm not sure I want to fly on a plane made in China. There's an explanation/excuse along with the pictures: http://wwweng.uwyo.edu/classes/fa2009/ce4630/china_apartment_tilt.pdf _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail is faster and more secure than ever. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/hotmail_bl1/hotmail_bl1.aspx?oci d=PID23879::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-ww:WM_IMHM_1:092009 From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Mon Dec 7 20:55:06 2009 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 19:55:06 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Distributor vacuum units In-Reply-To: References: , , Message-ID: I used them and was more than pleased. Jeff is easy to talk to and he did a lot of extra stuff. I'd suggest sending the whole unit for a complete rebuild. It wasn't that expensive. You'd be surprised at what he will find. Rich Kahn > From: comkanuk at cgocable.ca > To: rjswain at hotmail.com > Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 21:02:38 -0500 > CC: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Distributor vacuum units > > Le 09-12-07 ` 18:45, Rick Swain a icrit : > > > Richard > > Advanced Distributors - www.advanceddistributors.com/index.htm - > > will rebuild > > your vacuum advance for you. I did business with them and i can > > assure you that they do a > > great job at rebuilding distributors and tailoring them to your > > needs and > > their charges are reasonable. > > > Gilbert > > BT7-Bn7 BN4 > > > >> Subject: [Healeys] Distributor vacuum units > >> > >> Yesterday, I decided to check the vacuum unit on a distributor that > >> I was > >> getting ready to install in an early 3000 (Lucas DM6A). Zero, nada, > >> nothing. > > I > >> pulled out two other distributors and checked their vacuum units. > >> Both very > >> quickly leaked down to zero. Moss says they are not available. Does > >> anyone > >> have a source for these? > >> Richard > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Ready. Set. Get a great deal on Windows 7. See fantastic deals on > > Windows 7 > > now > > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691818 > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > You are subscribed as comkanuk at cgocable.ca > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tahoehealey at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail is faster and more secure than ever. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/hotmail_bl1/hotmail_bl1.aspx?oci d=PID23879::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-ww:WM_IMHM_1:092009 From ynotink at msn.com Mon Dec 7 23:00:49 2009 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 06:00:49 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] harbor freight jacks In-Reply-To: References: <20091204173650.8482.qmail@server278.com>, , <531A11FCD2CD4BD68CBEC495ECCBB46C@GregPC>, <120520090517.16310.4B19ECD20002CC0400003FB622230650629B0A02D29B9B0EBF020E03969B9A9B9CD20A0B97040C@att.net>, , <471534970912050907o3e4ef4bar111405fe4a189e07@mail.gmail.com>, , <471534970912052125k44e0466dm411ff05b1da6b9bc@mail.gmail.com>, , , Message-ID: Alan, I apologize for starting this and will try to explain my feelings a little more coherently. You have made some great arguments and of course I am not against trade. I like it better when the balance of trade is a little closer to par, but that is our problem, not the Chinese. High quality products are to be preferred wherever they come from and the asian nations have demonstrated that they can approach perfection on a QC basis. China has indeed come a long way since the end of the cold war and their current culture is much preferable to the Mao years. I feel we need to continue to encourage that trend while realizing that by western standards they still have a way to go. I guess what bothers me is the way in which we have allowed our economy to become so dependent on Chinese credit. And even in the throws of our recession we continue to print enormous amounts of unsupported currency and expect the Chinese to back up our debt. We are mortgaging our national economy while our manufacturing base languishes. The Chinese flood our markets with cheap and in some cases very shoddy merchandise of questionable provenance. I realize that would not be possible if there were no demand, but the result has been to transfer large amounts of our national treasure to China for very little real value. Walking through a "Dollar Store" or in this case a Harbor Freight, I'm reminded that the Dutch bought Manhattan Island for $28 in beads. Are we to lose our country in a shower of worthless shiny junk? I have grandchildren whom I fear will be greatly disadvantaged by the profligacy of our feel good generation. We need to support our own industrial base or there will be no wealth to redistribute. And while we continue to buy massive amounts of imports we have factions in our nation who press to destroy the business that has not yet been run out of the country. Our president has promised we will cut our carbon emissions by 83%, a move which if accomplished will degrade the US standard of living to that last seen in 1875. Who is going to be buying Chinese goods then? Again I apologize for being so off topic. Bill Lawrence From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Mon Dec 7 23:02:51 2009 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 22:02:51 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] SU fuelpump repair In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20091207220052.020c5640@pop.att.yahoo.com> Tom, I have never been able to adjust a fuel pump diaphragm according to the instructions and have it work once installed. Beats me as to what to do! Sorry, John BT7 At 06:02 PM 11/26/2009 +0100, Thomas Willig wrote: >.... Did I do the membrane adjustment >the wrong way? Any advises? > >Thomas Willig From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Dec 8 00:56:34 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 08:56:34 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Distributor vacuum units In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B1E06B2.3010007@chello.nl> There are plenty of used units about that can be used as a donor, e.g. from Triumph, Mini, Morris, Landrover, MG etc. I do not know if they differ a lot or at all in spring rate, but I would guess they are all more or less the same. May be left and right handed units have different vacuum units. However if you set the ignition dynamically, e.g. at 2500rpm (about when usually the max advance is reached) you can do away with it alltogether. Most performance engines do not use them. They are there to retard the ignition (about 4 degrees) when idling to reduce emissions somewhat. Kees Oudesluijs NL richard mayor schreef: > Yesterday, I decided to check the vacuum unit on a distributor that I was > getting ready to install in an early 3000 (Lucas DM6A). Zero, nada, nothing. I > pulled out two other distributors and checked their vacuum units. Both very > quickly leaked down to zero. Moss says they are not available. Does anyone > have a source for these? > Richard From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Dec 8 01:44:24 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 09:44:24 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Extra engine, break it down or leave it together ? In-Reply-To: <210638.85057.qm@web82703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <210638.85057.qm@web82703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4B1E11E8.60102@chello.nl> It is a water repellent, not water based. It is not a perfect rust preventive as it will wear away quickly when exposed, but in unexposed areas like in carbs, distributor etc. it OK for a long time. Kees Oudesluijs NL Dennis Yeast schreef: > I once heard but have never confirmed that WD-40 is a partially water > based product and not the best product for rust prevention over time. > Anyone know the true story? > > Dennis Yeast > email: yeastd at sbcglobal.net > > - From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Tue Dec 8 03:00:11 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 02:00:11 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] SU fuelpump repair In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20091207220052.020c5640@pop.att.yahoo.com> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20091207220052.020c5640@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Try here: http://homepages.donobi.net/sufuelpumps/sufuelpumparticles.html Some great articles on SU pumps and he has a rebuilding service for them too. Mike MacLean 56 BN2 60 AN5 On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 10:02 PM, john spaur wrote: > Tom, > > I have never been able to adjust a fuel pump diaphragm according to the > instructions and have it work once installed. Beats me as to what to do! > > Sorry, > John > BT7 > > At 06:02 PM 11/26/2009 +0100, Thomas Willig wrote: > >> .... Did I do the membrane adjustment >> the wrong way? Any advises? >> >> Thomas Willig >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From lists at brits-n-pieces.com Tue Dec 8 03:06:27 2009 From: lists at brits-n-pieces.com (Eric Frenken) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:06:27 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Distributor vacuum units In-Reply-To: <4B1E06B2.3010007@chello.nl> References: <4B1E06B2.3010007@chello.nl> Message-ID: <003b01ca77ee$1ba09130$52e1b390$@com> Kees, I have to disagree with you in that point. First it is most likely that older, used vac units all leak or do not work properly unless they've been rebuilt. Secondly the Lucas DM6A maxes out at about 4,000 rpm crank and last but not least the vac unit on DM6As does not retard but advance the ignition (right at the moment I don't know how much but I think it should be in the region of 10-120), mainly under part load, when vacuum got to its max. Dizzys on Cal. TR6s were equipped with 2 vac units, one for advancing, the other for retarding the ignition. This was done for emission reasons, which was never a concern as long as our Healeys had been built. Eric D -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Oudesluys Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. Dezember 2009 08:57 An: richard mayor Cc: healeys Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Distributor vacuum units There are plenty of used units about that can be used as a donor, e.g. from Triumph, Mini, Morris, Landrover, MG etc. I do not know if they differ a lot or at all in spring rate, but I would guess they are all more or less the same. May be left and right handed units have different vacuum units. However if you set the ignition dynamically, e.g. at 2500rpm (about when usually the max advance is reached) you can do away with it alltogether. Most performance engines do not use them. They are there to retard the ignition (about 4 degrees) when idling to reduce emissions somewhat. Kees Oudesluijs NL From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Dec 8 04:13:49 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 12:13:49 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Distributor vacuum units In-Reply-To: <003b01ca77ee$1ba09130$52e1b390$@com> References: <4B1E06B2.3010007@chello.nl> <003b01ca77ee$1ba09130$52e1b390$@com> Message-ID: <4B1E34ED.6080705@chello.nl> Eric, You are quite right, I made a major mistake here. I should have checked various applications first before leaving my comment. My comment was more for high revving short stroke engines. I should have known better. Apologies. Kees Oudesluijs NL Eric Frenken schreef: > Kees, > > I have to disagree with you in that point. First it is most likely that > older, used vac units all leak or do not work properly unless they've been > rebuilt. Secondly the Lucas DM6A maxes out at about 4,000 rpm crank and last > but not least the vac unit on DM6As does not retard but advance the ignition > (right at the moment I don't know how much but I think it should be in the > region of 10-120), mainly under part load, when vacuum got to its max. > > Dizzys on Cal. TR6s were equipped with 2 vac units, one for advancing, the > other for retarding the ignition. This was done for emission reasons, which > was never a concern as long as our Healeys had been built. > > Eric > D > > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > Im Auftrag von Oudesluys > Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. Dezember 2009 08:57 > An: richard mayor > Cc: healeys > Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Distributor vacuum units > > There are plenty of used units about that can be used as a donor, e.g. > from Triumph, Mini, Morris, Landrover, MG etc. I do not know if they > differ a lot or at all in spring rate, but I would guess they are all > more or less the same. May be left and right handed units have different > vacuum units. > However if you set the ignition dynamically, e.g. at 2500rpm (about when > usually the max advance is reached) you can do away with it alltogether. > Most performance engines do not use them. They are there to retard the > ignition (about 4 degrees) when idling to reduce emissions somewhat. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL From grday at btinternet.com Tue Dec 8 04:22:43 2009 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:22:43 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Extra engine, break it down or leave it together ? References: <210638.85057.qm@web82703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4B1E11E8.60102@chello.nl> Message-ID: Kees / Dennis, WD40 should NOT BE USED as a preservative on parts as you describe! As you may be aware it is a thick, sticky resinous oil that is the solute in a thinnish evaporating petroleum based solution. Over time it evaporates to a yellowish varnish type film over parts and sticks them together. At times they are stuck very firmly together ! I have no doubt you will have come across components stored for a couple of years stained with such a film that needed a thinners or hot water (dishwasher - but don't let the wife know) wash to remove it. Away from the car side, my father-in-law has a history of electrical engineering in the aircraft, vehicle component and machine manufacturing industries and changed trades entirely after being made redundant, buying a jewellers shop. He qualified in watch and clock making (he made a clock from bare metal, turning and cutting shafts and gears - brilliant guy) and made a reasonable side income just from cleaning WD40 from clocks that were gummed up. A full strip down and clean in the ultrasonic bath was the normal cure after an owner had decided to 'service' his own clock with the thinnest oil they knew - WD40 !! Do a Google search on engine preserving and you won't find WD40 has a mention from the serious side. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oudesluys" To: "Dennis Yeast" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Extra engine, break it down or leave it together ? > It is a water repellent, not water based. It is not a perfect rust > preventive as it will wear away quickly when exposed, but in unexposed > areas like in carbs, distributor etc. it OK for a long time. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL > > Dennis Yeast schreef: >> I once heard but have never confirmed that WD-40 is a partially water >> based product and not the best product for rust prevention over time. >> Anyone know the true story? >> >> Dennis Yeast >> email: yeastd at sbcglobal.net From simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk Tue Dec 8 05:15:18 2009 From: simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk (Simon Lachlan) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 12:15:18 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] harbor freight jacks In-Reply-To: References: <20091204173650.8482.qmail@server278.com>, , <531A11FCD2CD4BD68CBEC495ECCBB46C@GregPC>, <120520090517.16310.4B19ECD20002CC0400003FB622230650629B0A02D29B9B0EBF020E03969B9A9B9CD20A0B97040C@att.net>, , <471534970912050907o3e4ef4bar111405fe4a189e07@mail.gmail.com>, , <471534970912052125k44e0466dm411ff05b1da6b9bc@mail.gmail.com>, , , Message-ID: <000301ca7800$1bb65df0$532319d0$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> And. of course, by keeping their currency artificially low and, by having a mindset towards what we used to call "dumping", they are effectively exporting unemployment. That is very much one of the topics upon which yr* President will have pressed them in recent talks. *I see that I have lazily assumed that you are from the USA. -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WILLIAM B LAWRENCE Sent: 08 December 2009 06:01 To: Blue One Hundred; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] harbor freight jacks Alan, I apologize for starting this and will try to explain my feelings a little more coherently. You have made some great arguments and of course I am not against trade. I...... Again I apologize for being so off topic. Bill Lawrence _______________________________________________ From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Dec 8 05:24:18 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:24:18 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Extra engine, break it down or leave it together ? In-Reply-To: References: <210638.85057.qm@web82703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4B1E11E8.60102@chello.nl> Message-ID: <4B1E4572.5020800@chello.nl> Guy, You certainly do not want to use WD40 in a clock, and most certainly not from a spray can (don't ask) but I do disagree with not spraying WD40 in a carb or distributor to keep corrosion at bay. It will leave a sticky, penetrating film that will dissolve quite easily in a degreasing agent similar to other oily or waxy preservative fluids. Anyway after storing such parts for many years you have to dismantle, clean and rebuild, whatever you used to keep corrosion at bay. Ah, the dishwasher, that fine piece of equipment that cannot be missed by the automotive enthousiast. Excellent for carbs, distributor housings, oil pumps and even cilinder heads and engine blocks if not to big to fit in. If the usual detergent is not doing the job the special dishwasher cleaning agents will. Blow dry immediately using compressed air, to repel moisture in inaccesible places if there are steel parts involved (WD40 will not do any harm here either) to prevent machined surfaces from starting to corrode and cover these surfaces with a preservative fluid. Put aluminium parts in a warm and dry environment, a hot air oven at 60C is fine. I am lucky my wife is often away for a couple of days. What about Googling dishwashers for engine cleaning? Cheers, Kees Oudesluijs From bernard.johnsen at ngc.com Tue Dec 8 05:35:20 2009 From: bernard.johnsen at ngc.com (Johnsen, Bernard F (AS)) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 06:35:20 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Extra engine, break it down or leave it together ? In-Reply-To: References: <8CC45B9B2020A74-8C90-9732@webmail-m036.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <212DD23A1FC4D74BA8265F76926DF1200A54F9@XMBIL101.northgrum.com> You can find LPS-3 and other interesting chemicals here - http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INPDFF?PMPAGE=879&PMCTLG=00 NFI - just a satisfied customer. -Bernie Johnsen 1967 BJ8 From Awgertoo at aol.com Tue Dec 8 06:31:56 2009 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 08:31:56 EST Subject: [Healeys] harbor freight jacks Message-ID: That's like apologizing in advance for farting in an elevator. The discussion has moved--as it usually does--from the original subject (quality of a jack, tool, etc) to the political and philosophical and since I am not interested in learning everyone's opinion on geopolitics and geoeconomics I have simply been deleting posts on the subject. Eventually the parade will pass, the float will turn the corner and be out of sight and we'll be on to the next topic to discuss, then morph into something else as we seem to like to do. Best--Michael Oritt -------------------------------------------------------------------- In a message dated 12/8/2009 1:44:13 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, ynotink at msn.com writes: Again I apologize for being so off topic. From bspidell at comcast.net Tue Dec 8 06:48:21 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 05:48:21 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] SU fuelpump repair In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20091207220052.020c5640@pop.att.yahoo.com> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20091207220052.020c5640@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4B1E5925.90700@comcast.net> Thomas, IIRC, you had a pump the worked until you mated up the two halves, or installed the cap? If so, either the diaphragm is adjusted too tight--I think the List decided the shop manual instructions will leave the diaphragm a tad too tight--or the cap is installed incorrectly. Not much help I know; maybe if you repeated the inquiry with a bit more info. Bob john spaur wrote: > Tom, > > I have never been able to adjust a fuel pump diaphragm according to > the instructions and have it work once installed. Beats me as to what > to do! > > Sorry, > John > BT7 > > At 06:02 PM 11/26/2009 +0100, Thomas Willig wrote: >> .... Did I do the membrane adjustment >> the wrong way? Any advises? >> >> Thomas Willig -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From glemon at neb.rr.com Tue Dec 8 06:53:03 2009 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 07:53:03 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] SU fuelpump repair In-Reply-To: References: <6.2.3.4.2.20091207220052.020c5640@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Mike the link provided link is a great resource, as is Dave Dubois, the guy who created it, like Jeff at advanced distributors except for SU pumps, I did not actually send my pump to him but he walked me through a rebuild after mine quit, even sent me a part gatis to replace the diode, can't remember what it is called, little electrical bit. Adjusting the throw, there are instructions, but for me was more of a feel/trial and error sort of thing, but worked fine after rebuild, if you want to avoid install/reinstall work up a test rig with some tubes and a cup, I ran marvel mystery oil through mine, a very thin oil, less volatile than gasoline. Greg Lemon From grday at btinternet.com Tue Dec 8 07:01:01 2009 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:01:01 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Extra engine, break it down or leave it together ? References: <210638.85057.qm@web82703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4B1E11E8.60102@chello.nl> <4B1E4572.5020800@chello.nl> Message-ID: <03DFB89688E144B19B1E4E2551788F99@user8634b3d69b> Hi Kees, It seems as if we will agree to disagree about using WD40 as a long term corrosion inhibitor; as soon as the dilutants evaporate it stops being a penetrating or flowing liquid and become the base for a problem to be removed in the future. If I'm going to be removing deposits softer waxy preservatives are far easier to remove than the hard varnish style film WD40 produces. This may even need scraping, wire brushing etc to get rid of it before solvents will touch it. Doing this inside a carb means a nut & bolt strip down not just a clean up. The effects in a clock are just the same as in an engine, the only difference (as father-in-law said) is the size of the magnifying glass, they are both mechanical items. However, after the dishwasher treatment I would use it sooner rather than later to help prevent ongoing residual chemical problems. Googleing the dishwasher question came up with http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=305454 that was mildly amusing. Particularly good was the guy who padded the inside of a tumble dryer so he could rotate the nut/bolt filled bike tanks as they dried. Now if I had a dryer the size of a Healey fuel tank .... Another household ( ! ) item to dry with is using the wife's hair dryer but getting the grease out of the little ridges on the heat control switch take time. Regards, Guy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oudesluys" > Guy, > > You certainly do not want to use WD40 in a clock, and most certainly not > from a spray can (don't ask) but I do disagree with not spraying WD40 in a > carb or distributor to keep corrosion at bay. It will leave a sticky, > penetrating film that will dissolve quite easily in a degreasing agent > similar to other oily or waxy preservative fluids. Anyway after storing > such parts for many years you have to dismantle, clean and rebuild, > whatever you used to keep corrosion at bay. > > Ah, the dishwasher, that fine piece of equipment that cannot be missed by > the automotive enthousiast. Excellent for carbs, distributor housings, oil > pumps and even cilinder heads and engine blocks if not to big to fit in. > If the usual detergent is not doing the job the special dishwasher > cleaning agents will. Blow dry immediately using compressed air, to repel > moisture in inaccesible places if there are steel parts involved (WD40 > will not do any harm here either) to prevent machined surfaces from > starting to corrode and cover these surfaces with a preservative fluid. > Put aluminium parts in a warm and dry environment, a hot air oven at 60C > is fine. > I am lucky my wife is often away for a couple of days. > > What about Googling dishwashers for engine cleaning? > > Cheers, > Kees Oudesluijs From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Dec 8 07:37:46 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 15:37:46 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Extra engine, break it down or leave it together ? In-Reply-To: <03DFB89688E144B19B1E4E2551788F99@user8634b3d69b> References: <210638.85057.qm@web82703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4B1E11E8.60102@chello.nl> <4B1E4572.5020800@chello.nl> <03DFB89688E144B19B1E4E2551788F99@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: <4B1E64BA.1080903@chello.nl> So I am not the only idiot around using domestic appliances (dishwasher, drier, hairdrier, oven) in our hobby. I do have an extra old hot air oven/grill (also good for deep freeze pizza's), fridge (beer, glue, locktite) and deep freeze (interference fitments together with oven) in the garage. If you clean aluminium in a dishwasher it may discolor a bit, but often it does not happen. Why? Perhaps to do with the various components of the alloy. Cheers, Kees Oudesluijs > > > Googleing the dishwasher question came up with > http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=305454 that was > mildly amusing. > Particularly good was the guy who padded the inside of a tumble dryer > so he could rotate the nut/bolt filled bike tanks as they dried. Now > if I had a dryer the size of a Healey fuel tank .... > Another household ( ! ) item to dry with is using the wife's hair > dryer but getting the grease out of the little ridges on the heat > control switch take time. > > Regards, > Guy From eyera3 at gmail.com Tue Dec 8 12:25:34 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:25:34 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] english parts.com Message-ID: <173126440912081125t3a088fc6j69b2d2fb60ed8c09@mail.gmail.com> http://www.englishparts.com/ Came across this site while researching headers for my car please share any experiences -,+ The cold air box idea was not really for HP, more for looks. the header idea is for HP and looks. what should I look out for in making/buying headers? Thanks. In some respects it has been a good thing that I have waited 35 years to finish my car. This list has been invaluable, it just would have been a lot cheaper then, but I would be ready to do it again now anyways.....:) -- I Erbs Portland, OR From Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com Tue Dec 8 13:21:16 2009 From: Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 12:21:16 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Made in China In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D03420086@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> Sure glad I put those new Moss Chinese calipers on the Healey Saturday. The bleeder screws are metric and they leaked through the threads with only a half turn. They are nice and shiny gold tinted. My wife likes the look of them but I am gonna buy black caliper paint. Ken Freese 65 BJ8 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard Kahn Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 7:37 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Made in China After seeing this I'm not sure I want to fly on a plane made in China. There's an explanation/excuse along with the pictures: http://wwweng.uwyo.edu/classes/fa2009/ce4630/china_apartment_tilt.pdf From ronald-ray at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 8 13:43:25 2009 From: ronald-ray at sbcglobal.net (Ron Ray) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:43:25 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] english parts.com In-Reply-To: <173126440912081125t3a088fc6j69b2d2fb60ed8c09@mail.gmail.com> References: <173126440912081125t3a088fc6j69b2d2fb60ed8c09@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000801ca7847$1769c7e0$463d57a0$@net> They look like a Moss Motors distributer since the part numbers are from Moss. Ron -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of I Erbs Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 1:26 PM To: healey help Subject: [Healeys] english parts.com http://www.englishparts.com/ Came across this site while researching headers for my car please share any experiences -,+ The cold air box idea was not really for HP, more for looks. the header idea is for HP and looks. what should I look out for in making/buying headers? Thanks. In some respects it has been a good thing that I have waited 35 years to finish my car. This list has been invaluable, it just would have been a lot cheaper then, but I would be ready to do it again now anyways.....:) -- I Erbs Portland, OR From simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk Tue Dec 8 14:18:47 2009 From: simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk (Simon Lachlan) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 21:18:47 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Lights & loom query Message-ID: <000001ca784c$07f2ca00$17d85e00$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> Some time, sooner or later & very probably much later, my front grille will return from the chromers(?). I shall then be able to put the car back the way it was or should have been. So, I previously asked you for and obtained info regarding the general layout of the loom as it passed around the front of the car. Now I 'd like to know about the specific routing of the wire from the loom to the stator tube the wires from the loom to the side lights the wires from the loom to the head lights. ie are they clipped up to something and to what, where? Do they drop down from the loom straight away and take a low path? Or, do they stay high and drop down to the lights at the end of their travel? Mine were a complete dog's breakfast tied on with plastic cable ties and I'd not want to do that again. Regarding the chrome, I haven't seen the results but I've had mega problems with these guys re their complete inability to:- Stick to prices Stick to dates Answer the phone Reply to answer phone messages Reply to emails. I'm always happy to "name and shame", but I think I'd better not until I get the grille back! They're UK based, so most of you can relax! Simon From bspidell at comcast.net Tue Dec 8 14:59:40 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 21:59:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] english parts.com In-Reply-To: <000801ca7847$1769c7e0$463d57a0$@net> Message-ID: <865248733.1593551260309580245.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Got some shoes for my BJ8 from them when nobody else--Moss, VB, etc.--had them in stock. The shoes appeared to be relined but their info didn't specify that (the ones I got from them were bonded but I believe the originals are riveted). At any rate, the shoes are OK so far (4K miles or so). Service was satisfactory. bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA They look like a Moss Motors distributer since the part numbers are from Moss. Ron http://www.englishparts.com/ Came across this site while researching headers for my car please share any experiences -,+ The cold air box idea was not really for HP, more for looks. the header idea is for HP and looks. what should I look out for in making/buying headers? Thanks. In some respects it has been a good thing that I have waited 35 years to finish my car. This list has been invaluable, it just would have been a lot cheaper then, but I would be ready to do it again now anyways.....:) -- I Erbs Portland, OR From jhomonek at mindspring.com Tue Dec 8 15:13:34 2009 From: jhomonek at mindspring.com (John H) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 17:13:34 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [Healeys] english parts.com Message-ID: <6720874.1260310414939.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I, they are a great resource for us in Atlanta because we can walk in. They have supplied us for over 20 years. They ship anywhere. They are a Moss dealer...one of the largest and their pricing reflects it too. They know their stuff and stand behind it. NFI - just a very happy customer. John Homonek Atlanta AHCA - AHC USA 1959 BN7 and 1974 Jensen Healey -----Original Message----- >From: I Erbs >Sent: Dec 8, 2009 2:25 PM >To: healey help >Subject: [Healeys] english parts.com > >http://www.englishparts.com/ > >Came across this site while researching headers for my car please share any >experiences -,+ > >The cold air box idea was not really for HP, more for looks. >the header idea is for HP and looks. > >what should I look out for in making/buying headers? > >Thanks. >In some respects it has been a good thing that I have waited 35 years to >finish my car. This list has been invaluable, >it just would have been a lot cheaper then, but I would be ready to do it >again now anyways.....:) > >-- >I Erbs >Portland, OR >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >Healeys at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > >You are subscribed as jhomonek at mindspring.com > >http://www.team.net/archive From stmiller96 at hotmail.com Tue Dec 8 15:55:14 2009 From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 17:55:14 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Boot lock Message-ID: Can the boot lock barrel be removed? My issue: Never had a key for the 59' 100-6 boot lock. Had one cut to code number from Triple C in York, Pa ($9.95). Key fit and with some lube managed to work it back and fourth until it spun the lock 180. Funny thing is, it doesn't lock the handle- stays unlocked. Probably something stuck inside the handle? Want to take it apart and see, if it is possible. The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail gives you a free,exclusive gift. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/hotmail_bl1/hotmail_bl1.aspx?oci d=PID23879::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-ww:WM_IMHM_7:092009 From richchrysler at quickclic.net Tue Dec 8 16:31:23 2009 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 18:31:23 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Lights & loom query References: <000001ca784c$07f2ca00$17d85e00$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> Message-ID: Simon, For others' information I believe you have a MK 2 BT7 ?? The wiring from the stator tube comes out of the tube and goes up to plug into the four Lucas tube/bullet connectors of the main harness. These should be located in the immediate vicinity of just under the sliding bonnet latch assembly. As the stator wiring goes across the X brace in front of the radiator, a single barbed clip with a raised semicircle relief clips the harness to the X brace very near the middle of the X. Main front loom to side lights. I already sent you pics of the location of the right and left main harness plug-ins for side and head lamps. The wiring coming out the back of the sidelamp boot is wrapped back along side the cylindrical body of the boot where an "O" ring is rolled over boot and loom to keep it tight to the boot ansd away from the front tire. From there the side lamp wiring goes inboard, under and forward of the inner wing splash panel where it then goes up and plugs into the main forward harness. Head lamp wires (high beam, low beam and black earth wire) are plastic coated and are braided together from where they exit the headlamp pot.These braided loom goes up and over the top of the iner wheel arch. A barbed spring clip holds them to the top flange of the inner wheel arch. Once inboard, they plug into the main forward harness. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Lachlan" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 4:18 PM Subject: [Healeys] Lights & loom query > Some time, sooner or later & very probably much later, my front grille > will > return from the chromers(?). I shall then be able to put the car back the > way it was or should have been. > So, I previously asked you for and obtained info regarding the general > layout of the loom as it passed around the front of the car. > Now I 'd like to know about the specific routing of > the wire from the loom to the stator tube > the wires from the loom to the side lights > the wires from the loom to the head lights. > ie are they clipped up to something and to what, where? > Do they drop down from the loom straight away and take a low path? Or, do > they stay high and drop down to the lights at the end of their travel? > > Mine were a complete dog's breakfast tied on with plastic cable ties and > I'd > not want to do that again. From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Tue Dec 8 16:32:54 2009 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 15:32:54 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] YOM again Message-ID: Bottom line. California DMV does not want YOM plates on your car and will only allow them if you can prove they either came off the car originally or you can prove the first sticker (on the bottom of a fat pile of later stickers) on the plate had the exact year your car was designed for, regardless of year made. ie, A 64 model year needs to have a 64 sticker on the plate you submit. Numbers and letters embossed on the plate mean nothing. If others have had problems with the California DMV regardless of make of the car, or know any one who is having a problem, please contact me at: tahoehealey at hotmail.com. I would like to start a letter writing campaign to the assembly and senators to have the law re-defined to be interpreted as it was meant to be interpreted. Sorry to bother those who have no interest in this. Rich Kahn _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail gives you a free,exclusive gift. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/hotmail_bl1/hotmail_bl1.aspx?oci d=PID23879::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-ww:WM_IMHM_7:092009 From eyera3 at gmail.com Tue Dec 8 18:23:50 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 17:23:50 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Boot lock In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <173126440912081723m21c7db31n8692e6ba243d7ffe@mail.gmail.com> I have my new boot lock in hand. You need to remove the pin holding the handle into the bezel. ther should be a release pin hole in the handle piece. put key in and insert strong paperclip like thing in hole. it should release the tumblers. I am going to take mine to a locksmith this weekend to match the key with my ignition. On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 2:55 PM, S and T Miller wrote: > Can the boot lock barrel be removed? My issue: Never had a key for the 59' > 100-6 boot lock. Had one cut to code number from Triple C in York, Pa > ($9.95). Key fit and with some lube managed to work it back and fourth > until > it spun the lock 180. Funny thing is, it doesn't lock the handle- stays > unlocked. Probably something stuck inside the handle? Want to take it > apart > and see, if it is possible. > > The Millers > "British Car Nuts" > > 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 > > 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 > > 1964 MGB 40841 > > 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 > > "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test > drive." > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live Hotmail gives you a free,exclusive gift. > > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/hotmail_bl1/hotmail_bl1.aspx?oci > d=PID23879::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-ww:WM_IMHM_7:092009 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- I Erbs Portland, OR From eyera3 at gmail.com Tue Dec 8 18:27:11 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 17:27:11 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] craigs list portland, OR Message-ID: <173126440912081727i21381984j298e691785d89b2d@mail.gmail.com> http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/cto/1499613319.html NFI willing to check out anyone on list selling this? -- I Erbs Portland, OR From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 8 20:00:20 2009 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 22:00:20 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Extra engine, break it down or leave it together ? References: <210638.85057.qm@web82703.mail.mud.yahoo.com><4B1E11E8.60102@chello.nl> <4B1E4572.5020800@chello.nl> Message-ID: <002201ca787b$beec7b00$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> So when your doing your dishes in your Parts Washer out in the garage do you use dish detergents or solvents. ; ) You guys must have the most understanding wives ever. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oudesluys" To: "Guy R Day" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:24 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Extra engine, break it down or leave it together ? > Guy, > > You certainly do not want to use WD40 in a clock, and most certainly not > from a spray can (don't ask) but I do disagree with not spraying WD40 in a > carb or distributor to keep corrosion at bay. It will leave a sticky, > penetrating film that will dissolve quite easily in a degreasing agent > similar to other oily or waxy preservative fluids. Anyway after storing > such parts for many years you have to dismantle, clean and rebuild, > whatever you used to keep corrosion at bay. > > Ah, the dishwasher, that fine piece of equipment that cannot be missed by > the automotive enthousiast. Excellent for carbs, distributor housings, oil > pumps and even cilinder heads and engine blocks if not to big to fit in. > If the usual detergent is not doing the job the special dishwasher > cleaning agents will. Blow dry immediately using compressed air, to repel > moisture in inaccesible places if there are steel parts involved (WD40 > will not do any harm here either) to prevent machined surfaces from > starting to corrode and cover these surfaces with a preservative fluid. > Put aluminium parts in a warm and dry environment, a hot air oven at 60C > is fine. > I am lucky my wife is often away for a couple of days. > > What about Googling dishwashers for engine cleaning? > > Cheers, > Kees Oudesluijs > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as lapierrem at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Tue Dec 8 20:15:47 2009 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 03:15:47 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?storage?= Message-ID: <20091209031547.26250.qmail@server278.com> is Cosmoline still on the market, and would it be plausible to cover and engine with it before long term storage. i can remember as a youngster helping my dad coat farm equipment with it. we had a few drums of ww2 surplus around and used it on lots of metal things since it rained a lot in oregon. might work. hjim From csooch1 at aol.com Tue Dec 8 20:29:03 2009 From: csooch1 at aol.com (Chris Masucci) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 21:29:03 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Made in China In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8E23CAA2D19A45038D7C0033D42E105B@ChrisPC> Rebar? If a building like that fell over from an earthquake or something in the USA there would be bent pieces of 2" diameter rebar all over the place. Looks like they strung it together with baling wire, and didn't even do that right. Where are the top to bottom connectors? Side to side trusses, base stabilization? Concrete only works in compression!! Hacks exist in every country, but this is pathetic. An average freshman structural engineer could do better. -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard Kahn Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 9:37 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Made in China After seeing this I'm not sure I want to fly on a plane made in China. There's an explanation/excuse along with the pictures: http://wwweng.uwyo.edu/classes/fa2009/ce4630/china_apartment_tilt.pdf From thewalkers at qwest.net Tue Dec 8 22:28:44 2009 From: thewalkers at qwest.net (the walkers) Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:28:44 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] storage In-Reply-To: <20091209031547.26250.qmail@server278.com> References: <20091209031547.26250.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: <4B1F358C.5060408@qwest.net> That stuff is a PIA to remove later...but it works good. healeymanjim at hansencc.net wrote: > is Cosmoline still on the market, and would it be plausible to cover and engine with it before long term storage. i can remember as a youngster helping my dad coat farm equipment with it. we had a few drums of ww2 surplus around and used it on lots of metal things since it rained a lot in oregon. might work. hjim > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as thewalkers at qwest.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From coudesluijs at chello.nl Wed Dec 9 01:04:37 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 09:04:37 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Extra engine, break it down or leave it together ? In-Reply-To: <002201ca787b$beec7b00$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> References: <210638.85057.qm@web82703.mail.mud.yahoo.com><4B1E11E8.60102@chello.nl> <4B1E4572.5020800@chello.nl> <002201ca787b$beec7b00$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: <4B1F5A15.9040008@chello.nl> Are you kidding? Would you allow your wife to use the parts washer to do the dishes? Imagine all the dirt contaminating your nice and shiny engine parts!! In case one contemplates using solvents in a dish washer!! I would not use solvents as I doubt that the dishwasher will survive those because of all the plastic and rubber components used and I would not feel happy at all with the heating element in contact with solvents. Use detergents. One can experiment a bit using low foaming washing powder instead of the dish washer detergents of which at least some can cause discoloration of some alloys. Kees Oudesluijs NL Mark LaPierre schreef: > So when your doing your dishes in your Parts Washer out in the garage > do you use > dish detergents or solvents. ; ) > > You guys must have the most understanding wives ever. > > Mark > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oudesluys" > To: "Guy R Day" > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:24 AM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Extra engine, break it down or leave it together ? > > >> Guy, >> >> You certainly do not want to use WD40 in a clock, and most certainly >> not from a spray can (don't ask) but I do disagree with not spraying >> WD40 in a carb or distributor to keep corrosion at bay. It will leave >> a sticky, penetrating film that will dissolve quite easily in a >> degreasing agent similar to other oily or waxy preservative fluids. >> Anyway after storing such parts for many years you have to dismantle, >> clean and rebuild, whatever you used to keep corrosion at bay. >> >> Ah, the dishwasher, that fine piece of equipment that cannot be >> missed by the automotive enthousiast. Excellent for carbs, >> distributor housings, oil pumps and even cilinder heads and engine >> blocks if not to big to fit in. If the usual detergent is not doing >> the job the special dishwasher cleaning agents will. Blow dry >> immediately using compressed air, to repel moisture in inaccesible >> places if there are steel parts involved (WD40 will not do any harm >> here either) to prevent machined surfaces from starting to corrode >> and cover these surfaces with a preservative fluid. Put aluminium >> parts in a warm and dry environment, a hot air oven at 60C is fine. >> I am lucky my wife is often away for a couple of days. >> >> What about Googling dishwashers for engine cleaning? >> >> Cheers, >> Kees Oudesluijs >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as lapierrem at sbcglobal.net >> >> http://www.team.net/archive From simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk Wed Dec 9 05:34:38 2009 From: simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk (Simon Lachlan) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 12:34:38 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Lights & loom query In-Reply-To: References: <000001ca784c$07f2ca00$17d85e00$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> Message-ID: <000301ca78cb$f982e600$ec88b200$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> Rich, Thank you very much indeed for this. Yes, my car is Mk2 BT7. Simon. -----Original Message----- From: Rich C [mailto:richchrysler at quickclic.net] Sent: 08 December 2009 23:31 To: Simon Lachlan; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Lights & loom query Simon, For others' information I believe you have a MK 2 BT7 ?? The wiring from the stator tube comes out of the tube and goes up to plug into the four Lucas tube/bullet connectors of the main harness. These should be located in the immediate vicinity of just under the sliding bonnet latch assembly. As the stator wiring goes across the X brace in front of the radiator, a single barbed clip with a raised semicircle relief clips the harness to the X brace very near the middle of the X. Main front loom to side lights. I already sent you pics of the location of the right and left main harness plug-ins for side and head lamps. The wiring coming out the back of the sidelamp boot is wrapped back along side the cylindrical body of the boot where an "O" ring is rolled over boot and loom to keep it tight to the boot ansd away from the front tire. From there the side lamp wiring goes inboard, under and forward of the inner wing splash panel where it then goes up and plugs into the main forward harness. Head lamp wires (high beam, low beam and black earth wire) are plastic coated and are braided together from where they exit the headlamp pot.These braided loom goes up and over the top of the iner wheel arch. A barbed spring clip holds them to the top flange of the inner wheel arch. Once inboard, they plug into the main forward harness. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Lachlan" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 4:18 PM Subject: [Healeys] Lights & loom query > Some time, sooner or later & very probably much later, my front grille > will > return from the chromers(?). I shall then be able to put the car back the > way it was or should have been. > So, I previously asked you for and obtained info regarding the general > layout of the loom as it passed around the front of the car. > Now I 'd like to know about the specific routing of > the wire from the loom to the stator tube > the wires from the loom to the side lights > the wires from the loom to the head lights. > ie are they clipped up to something and to what, where? > Do they drop down from the loom straight away and take a low path? Or, do > they stay high and drop down to the lights at the end of their travel? > > Mine were a complete dog's breakfast tied on with plastic cable ties and > I'd > not want to do that again. From healeyrick at yahoo.com Wed Dec 9 08:02:02 2009 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 07:02:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] YOM again In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <274322.49470.qm@web51403.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Richard, Try going on the H.A.M.B. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/ and do a search for YOM. Lots of good info there. Seems like some people have had good luck going through AAA. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Tue, 12/8/09, Richard Kahn wrote: From: Richard Kahn Subject: [Healeys] YOM again To: healeys at autox.team.net Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 6:32 PM Bottom line. California DMV does not want YOM plates on your car and will only allow them if you can prove they either came off the car originally or you can prove the first sticker (on the bottom of a fat pile of later stickers) on the plate had the exact year your car was designed for, regardless of year made. ie, A 64 model year needs to have a 64 sticker on the plate you submit. Numbers and letters embossed on the plate mean nothing. If others have had problems with the California DMV regardless of make of the car, or know any one who is having a problem, please contact me at: tahoehealey at hotmail.com. I would like to start a letter writing campaign to the assembly and senators to have the law re-defined to be interpreted as it was meant to be interpreted. Sorry to bother those who have no interest in this. Rich Kahn _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail gives you a free,exclusive gift. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/hotmail_bl1/hotmail_bl1.aspx?oci d=PID23879::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-ww:WM_IMHM_7:092009 Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive From cvaselaar at earthlink.net Wed Dec 9 08:03:03 2009 From: cvaselaar at earthlink.net (Charlie Vaselaar) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 09:03:03 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Interior Fabrics - Looking for a source Message-ID: <4599345.1260370983497.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Does anyone know a supplier that offers OEM or OEM equivalent materials for a BJ8. In particular, I would like to find a source for the seat material with the small embossed squares and the rear seat material with the heat welded large square pattern. Thanks, C. Vaselaar From bighealey at astound.net Wed Dec 9 08:48:53 2009 From: bighealey at astound.net (John Soderling) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 07:48:53 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] SU fuelpump repair References: <6.2.3.4.2.20091207220052.020c5640@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0458FE1D375945F081BD226580A9064B@Soderling> Pages 115 and 215 of Norman Nock's "Tech Talk" both detail the proper procedure for adjusting the fuel pump diaphragm. Vroom vroom, John Erika the Red ----- Original Message ----- From: "john spaur" To: "Thomas Willig" Cc: Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] SU fuelpump repair > Tom, > > I have never been able to adjust a fuel pump diaphragm according to the > instructions and have it work once installed. Beats me as to what to do! > > Sorry, > John > BT7 > > At 06:02 PM 11/26/2009 +0100, Thomas Willig wrote: >>.... Did I do the membrane adjustment >>the wrong way? Any advises? >> >>Thomas Willig > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as bighealey at astound.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From richchrysler at quickclic.net Wed Dec 9 09:09:47 2009 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 11:09:47 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Interior Fabrics - Looking for a source References: <4599345.1260370983497.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <0326035BDD71499AADB99B615ACF1182@LIFEBOOK> Heritage Trim and Upholstery has both. http://www.heritagetrim.com Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie Vaselaar" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:03 AM Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Interior Fabrics - Looking for a source > Does anyone know a supplier that offers OEM or OEM equivalent materials > for a BJ8. In particular, I would like to find a source for the seat > material with the small embossed squares and the rear seat material with > the heat welded large square pattern. > > Thanks, > > C. Vaselaar From stmiller96 at hotmail.com Wed Dec 9 11:23:32 2009 From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:23:32 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Boot lock- update! In-Reply-To: <000801ca78ad$100ddde0$302999a0$@rr.com> References: , <000801ca78ad$100ddde0$302999a0$@rr.com> Message-ID: Thanks to all that assisted. IT NOW LOCKS!!! When I had my shop, I would have never taken the time to pull one apart because it would probably have been cheaper to buy a new one, and less likely to come back. Working on my own cars is a different story, saving the money is a good trade off for the time spent. What I found was the "nub" on the bottom of the barrel had broken off, and couldn't lock. So I drilled a small hole and made a pin to replace the "nub". Cleaned/ lubed and presto- works great! Thanks all. The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." > From: sbyers at ec.rr.com > To: stmiller96 at hotmail.com > Subject: RE: [Healeys] Boot lock > Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 03:53:22 -0500 > > Hi, > I assume that your boot lock is the same as for a BJ8. See the attached > photos. To get access to the lock cylinder retaining pin, you have to file > off the swage from the square shaft to remove the retainer bell, washers, > and spring. When you reassemble, us a chisel-type instrument to re-swage > the shaft. > > Cheers! > Steve Byers > HBJ8L/36666 > BJ8 Registry > Havelock, NC > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of S and T Miller > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 5:55 PM > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] Boot lock > > Can the boot lock barrel be removed? My issue: Never had a key for the 59' > 100-6 boot lock. Had one cut to code number from Triple C in York, Pa > ($9.95). Key fit and with some lube managed to work it back and fourth until > it spun the lock 180. Funny thing is, it doesn't lock the handle- stays > unlocked. Probably something stuck inside the handle? Want to take it > apart > and see, if it is possible. > > The Millers > "British Car Nuts" > > 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 > > 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 > > 1964 MGB 40841 > > 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 > > "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test > drive." > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live Hotmail gives you a free,exclusive gift. > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/hotmail_bl1/hotmail_bl1.aspx?oc > i > d=PID23879::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-ww:WM_IMHM_7:092009 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as sbyers at ec.rr.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Chat with Messenger straight from your Hotmail inbox. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/hotmail_bl1/hotmail_bl1.aspx?oci d=PID23879::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-ww:WM_IMHM_4:092009 From e-wilkins at cox.net Wed Dec 9 11:54:13 2009 From: e-wilkins at cox.net (Eric (Rick) Wilkins) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 10:54:13 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] cold air box 3000 In-Reply-To: References: <173126440912040853s11a3d448s5c1eb1e8a358f41c@mail.gmail.com> <01a701ca775e$6152adc0$23f80940$@net> <8E1686C8F2194EC4A6D02BC068D51BA8@ACM045> Message-ID: <986F07B8-3C34-4E69-B81F-FCDCF38EE5A7@cox.net> This one looks cool: http://tinyurl.com/yzsn8wk BTW, I had gone as far as making a mockup in cardboard of a cold air box for my triple SU Healey, but was recommended against it as it might starve the rear carb. I will still flow cool air to the carbs somehow... Wilko San Diego On Dec 7, 2009, at 6:56 PM, I Erbs wrote: > The objective is to look cool > > I Erbs > Sent from my iPod From eyera3 at gmail.com Wed Dec 9 12:20:25 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 11:20:25 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] headers Message-ID: <173126440912091120h296d5521y2de176230573c492@mail.gmail.com> Hello, If you have a good working tube header on your BT7 could you send me some photos of the flange and collector area? The welding teacher has offered to make a set for me but would like to see a reference -- I Erbs Portland, OR From info at atteanlodge.com Wed Dec 9 12:33:00 2009 From: info at atteanlodge.com (Attean Lake Lodge) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 14:33:00 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] low compression Message-ID: Since I first started my car a couple of weeks ago I have just not been able to get to run even close to normal, in fact the only way I can keep it running is to hold the chokes out most all the way. The carbs were rebuilt by Joe Cuerto, plenty of fuel to them, proper fuel level in the bowls etc. etc. Valve and ignition timing dead on. I finally figured it had to be a vacuum problem so I just did a compression test...very depressing, a low of 100 and high of 125. The engine was out of the car when I bought it but had been completely rebuilt by a reputable guy who told me he did everything right including new rings, pistons, crank, valves, cam etc., he also had the head planed. Yes, I checked the clearances and they are fine, I have been able to run the engine for maybe 7 or 8 minutes at most before it sputters and dies. Did the rebuilder screw up or am I missing something here? Any thoughts will be much appreciated will I load the shotgun. Brad Holden 67 BJ8 From javrugtman at htcnet.org Wed Dec 9 12:37:39 2009 From: javrugtman at htcnet.org (John Vrugtman) Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 14:37:39 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 dash Message-ID: <4B1FFC83.7000309@htcnet.org> Is anyone interested in a couple of BJ8 dash wood sections. Two complete sets, original, maybe useful for patterns, or for the more ambitious, re veneering. Free for the shipping. John BJ8s Hightown, VA From grabow.bernie at gmail.com Wed Dec 9 13:14:57 2009 From: grabow.bernie at gmail.com (Bernie Grabow) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:14:57 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] oil filter Message-ID: I have a spin on oil filter adapter on my 66 BJ8 and would like to use a Purolator Pureone or a K&N filter. The filter I have been using is a Fram PH2825 and I understand that Fram is not the best oil filter or at least has the reputation of not being the best oil filter. I have not been able to cross reference the Fram PH2825 to an appropriate Purolator or K&N filter. Can anyone on the list tell me the correct Purolator or K&N filter designation for my spin on adapter. Or is there a better oil filter out there I should be using? Bernie From javrugtman at htcnet.org Wed Dec 9 14:03:40 2009 From: javrugtman at htcnet.org (John Vrugtman) Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 16:03:40 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 dashs Message-ID: <4B2010AC.5000101@htcnet.org> That was quick, both spoken for. John BJ8s From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Wed Dec 9 14:06:26 2009 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:06:26 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] low compression In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The variance is a little high between the cylinders. I'm not sure that your compression readings would cause the problem of keeping the engine running. About 5 psi range seems to be except able. What is the order of the compression? If you have two low ones next to each other it may be a head gasket. If you are at any high altitude your readings may be low but ok for that altitude. I think normally, we look for 150 to160 at sea level. I'd start with resetting the timing (static). From there I would re adjust the carbs by the book then modify as needed. > From: info at atteanlodge.com > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 14:33:00 -0500 > Subject: [Healeys] low compression > > Since I first started my car a couple of weeks ago I have just not been able > to get to run even close to normal, in fact the only way I can keep it running > is to hold the chokes out most all the way. The carbs were rebuilt by Joe > Cuerto, plenty of fuel to them, proper fuel level in the bowls etc. etc. Valve > and ignition timing dead on. I finally figured it had to be a vacuum problem > so I just did a compression test...very depressing, a low of 100 and high of > 125. The engine was out of the car when I bought it but had been completely > rebuilt by a reputable guy who told me he did everything right including new > rings, pistons, crank, valves, cam etc., he also had the head planed. Yes, I > checked the clearances and they are fine, I have been able to run the engine > for maybe 7 or 8 minutes at most before it sputters and dies. Did the > rebuilder screw up or am I missing something here? Any thoughts will be much > appreciated will I load the shotgun. > > Brad Holden > 67 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tahoehealey at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Get gifts for them and cashback for you. Try Bing now. http://www.bing.com/shopping/search?q=xbox+games&scope=cashback&form=MSHYCB&p ubl=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MSHYCB_Shopping_Giftsforthem_cashback_1x1 From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 9 14:32:57 2009 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:32:57 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] low compression In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9C1B55B4-1B92-4A03-9885-A2754E46890B@sbcglobal.net> Check the cam timing a very common mistake if the rebuilder is not familiar with the Healey engine David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Dec 9, 2009, at 11:33 AM, Attean Lake Lodge wrote: > Since I first started my car a couple of weeks ago I have just not > been able > to get to run even close to normal, in fact the only way I can keep > it running > is to hold the chokes out most all the way. The carbs were rebuilt > by Joe > Cuerto, plenty of fuel to them, proper fuel level in the bowls etc. > etc. Valve > and ignition timing dead on. I finally figured it had to be a > vacuum problem > so I just did a compression test...very depressing, a low of 100 > and high of > 125. The engine was out of the car when I bought it but had been > completely > rebuilt by a reputable guy who told me he did everything right > including new > rings, pistons, crank, valves, cam etc., he also had the head > planed. Yes, I > checked the clearances and they are fine, I have been able to run > the engine > for maybe 7 or 8 minutes at most before it sputters and dies. Did the > rebuilder screw up or am I missing something here? Any thoughts > will be much > appreciated will I load the shotgun. > > Brad Holden > 67 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From msalter at precisionsportscar.com Wed Dec 9 14:44:53 2009 From: msalter at precisionsportscar.com (Michael Salter) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 16:44:53 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Test Please delete Message-ID: <7fa0e5c60912091344l558a4f38na4fac81adbceab4c@mail.gmail.com> Test From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Wed Dec 9 14:54:24 2009 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:54:24 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] oil filter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: K&N 2009. The best and available everywhere. > Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:14:57 -0500 > From: grabow.bernie at gmail.com > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] oil filter > > I have a spin on oil filter adapter on my 66 BJ8 and would like to use > a Purolator Pureone or a K&N filter. The filter I have been using is > a Fram PH2825 and I understand that Fram is not the best oil filter or > at least has the reputation of not being the best oil filter. I have > not been able to cross reference the Fram PH2825 to an appropriate > Purolator or K&N filter. Can anyone on the list tell me the correct > Purolator or K&N filter designation for my spin on adapter. Or is > there a better oil filter out there I should be using? > Bernie > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tahoehealey at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail gives you a free,exclusive gift. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/hotmail_bl1/hotmail_bl1.aspx?oci d=PID23879::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-ww:WM_IMHM_7:092009 From vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com Wed Dec 9 14:56:39 2009 From: vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com (Jean Caron) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 21:56:39 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] oil filter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bernie: What you can also do is go to the Fram site, see what application the PH2825 is for, I did this and it's mainly for Subaru, Toyota and Fords, mostly older models. As well there is a listing for heavy duty applications like Kubota tractors etc. If you are not comfortable with the Fram filters, go to one of the dealers for the model the application is for and buy one of their brand name ones. Not sure if they'd be better but may be worth a try. Jean Caron > Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:14:57 -0500 > From: grabow.bernie at gmail.com > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] oil filter > > I have a spin on oil filter adapter on my 66 BJ8 and would like to use > a Purolator Pureone or a K&N filter. The filter I have been using is > a Fram PH2825 and I understand that Fram is not the best oil filter or > at least has the reputation of not being the best oil filter. I have > not been able to cross reference the Fram PH2825 to an appropriate > Purolator or K&N filter. Can anyone on the list tell me the correct > Purolator or K&N filter designation for my spin on adapter. Or is > there a better oil filter out there I should be using? > Bernie > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691815 From Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com Wed Dec 9 15:08:21 2009 From: Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 14:08:21 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] oil filter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D034200A0@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> I use the Motorcraft FL-1A full size filter. They are as good as Wix or typical Purolators. The clearance is very tight with the brake booster. You should probably get one as an experiment if you are unsure if a full size will fit. Ken Freese 65 BJ8 From richard.ewald at gmail.com Wed Dec 9 15:10:14 2009 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 14:10:14 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] low compression In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: First off your compression gauge could very well be pessimistic. It would not be the first inaccurate compression tester I have seen. Secondly even with compression of 100-125 the engine should stay running, and not die. I would look way elsewhere before I started tearing the engine or the engine builder apart. One good place to start is to check for vacuum leaks. A vacuum leak could easily cause the problems you are having. Rick On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Attean Lake Lodge wrote: > Since I first started my car a couple of weeks ago I have just not been > able > to get to run even close to normal, in fact the only way I can keep it > running > is to hold the chokes out most all the way. The carbs were rebuilt by Joe > Cuerto, plenty of fuel to them, proper fuel level in the bowls etc. etc. > Valve > and ignition timing dead on. I finally figured it had to be a vacuum > problem > so I just did a compression test...very depressing, a low of 100 and high > of > 125. The engine was out of the car when I bought it but had been completely > rebuilt by a reputable guy who told me he did everything right including > new > rings, pistons, crank, valves, cam etc., he also had the head planed. Yes, > I > checked the clearances and they are fine, I have been able to run the > engine > for maybe 7 or 8 minutes at most before it sputters and dies. Did the > rebuilder screw up or am I missing something here? Any thoughts will be > much > appreciated will I load the shotgun. > > Brad Holden > 67 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richard.ewald at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From bspidell at comcast.net Wed Dec 9 15:14:28 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 22:14:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] oil filter In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <612706557.2057491260396868903.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I seem to recall my spin-on adapter from Moss came with a Fram PH3600. I use a Wix equivalent with good results--the PH3600 is a common size. bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA I have a spin on oil filter adapter on my 66 BJ8 and would like to use a Purolator Pureone or a K&N filter. The filter I have been using is a Fram PH2825 and I understand that Fram is not the best oil filter or at least has the reputation of not being the best oil filter. I have not been able to cross reference the Fram PH2825 to an appropriate Purolator or K&N filter. Can anyone on the list tell me the correct Purolator or K&N filter designation for my spin on adapter. Or is there a better oil filter out there I should be using? Bernie From ahbn6 at verizon.net Wed Dec 9 15:16:03 2009 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 17:16:03 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] oil filter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <004901ca791d$32cf7670$986e6350$@net> Unipart GFE 22 or GFE 121 available at Pep Boys, NAPA part 1302 or Gold 1516, Wix 51516 available at many sources. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bernie Grabow Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 3:15 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] oil filter I have a spin on oil filter adapter on my 66 BJ8 and would like to use a Purolator Pureone or a K&N filter. The filter I have been using is a Fram PH2825 and I understand that Fram is not the best oil filter or at least has the reputation of not being the best oil filter. I have not been able to cross reference the Fram PH2825 to an appropriate Purolator or K&N filter. Can anyone on the list tell me the correct Purolator or K&N filter designation for my spin on adapter. Or is there a better oil filter out there I should be using? Bernie _______________________________________________ Support From coudesluijs at chello.nl Wed Dec 9 15:19:21 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 23:19:21 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] low compression In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B202269.90002@chello.nl> If the pistons and rings have not bedded in yet you could have differences in the compression. Also being stored for years does not help. You cannot take proper readings with a cold and not run in engine. Besides these compression figures do not indicate it is the cause of the bad running, it should run rather well.. Check leaks in or around the intake manifold, vacuum pipe for the servo, manifold/carb gaskets? How did you set the idle mixture? Are the pistons in the carbs going up and down freely? Do the pistons in the carbs drop with a distinctive click if you lift and drop them? Blocked fuel line? Do you have enough fuel pressure at the carbs, should be around 5psi. It sounds very much like a simple fuel/carburettor problem resulting in a very weak mixture. Kees Oudesluijs NL Attean Lake Lodge schreef: > Since I first started my car a couple of weeks ago I have just not been able > to get to run even close to normal, in fact the only way I can keep it running > is to hold the chokes out most all the way. ............... > > Brad Holden > 67 BJ8 From coudesluijs at chello.nl Wed Dec 9 15:43:18 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 23:43:18 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] oil filter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B202806.3030401@chello.nl> Check this reference list for the K&N HP-2005. Your fram filter is also there so in practice all those filters should be compatible. Your filter aplication includes many 70-80's Toyota's, Subaru's and Fords. http://www.knfilters.com/search/kn_cross_ref.aspx?part=HP-2005 Kees Oudesluijs NL Bernie Grabow schreef: > I have a spin on oil filter adapter on my 66 BJ8 and would like to use > a Purolator Pureone or a K&N filter. The filter I have been using is > a Fram PH2825 and I understand that Fram is not the best oil filter or > at least has the reputation of not being the best oil filter. I have > not been able to cross reference the Fram PH2825 to an appropriate > Purolator or K&N filter. Can anyone on the list tell me the correct > Purolator or K&N filter designation for my spin on adapter. Or is > there a better oil filter out there I should be using? > Bernie > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive From coudesluijs at chello.nl Wed Dec 9 15:47:24 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 23:47:24 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] low compression In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B2028FC.4070005@chello.nl> Forgot to mention that you should messure your compression with the butterfly valves fully open to get a proper reading. Kees Oudesluijs Attean Lake Lodge schreef: > Since I first started my car a couple of weeks ago I have just not been able > to get to run even close to normal, in fact the only way I can keep it running > is to hold the chokes out most all the way. From dan at warner-associates.com Wed Dec 9 16:09:36 2009 From: dan at warner-associates.com (Dan Stromquist) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 17:09:36 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] oil filter In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Per NAPA cross reference number for the K&N filter is 7355564 from the Fram PH2825. They should have that in stock for $12.95. Dan -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jean Caron Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 3:57 PM To: grabow.bernie at gmail.com; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] oil filter Bernie: What you can also do is go to the Fram site, see what application the PH2825 is for, I did this and it's mainly for Subaru, Toyota and Fords, mostly older models. As well there is a listing for heavy duty applications like Kubota tractors etc. If you are not comfortable with the Fram filters, go to one of the dealers for the model the application is for and buy one of their brand name ones. Not sure if they'd be better but may be worth a try. Jean Caron > Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:14:57 -0500 > From: grabow.bernie at gmail.com > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] oil filter > > I have a spin on oil filter adapter on my 66 BJ8 and would like to use > a Purolator Pureone or a K&N filter. The filter I have been using is > a Fram PH2825 and I understand that Fram is not the best oil filter or > at least has the reputation of not being the best oil filter. I have > not been able to cross reference the Fram PH2825 to an appropriate > Purolator or K&N filter. Can anyone on the list tell me the correct > Purolator or K&N filter designation for my spin on adapter. Or is > there a better oil filter out there I should be using? > Bernie > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691815 Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as dan at warner-associates.com http://www.team.net/archive From frogeye at porterscustom.com Wed Dec 9 16:42:19 2009 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (Dave Porter) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 16:42:19 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] low compression In-Reply-To: <4B202269.90002@chello.nl> References: <4B202269.90002@chello.nl> Message-ID: <1FADB20B6B0B4ED59DA481F623AC1AF6@oscar> Right, the symptom is that it will run for several minutes before "sputtering" and dying. That is a fuel starvation issue. Dave frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff blog: http://porterbikes.com/ -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Oudesluys Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 3:19 PM To: Attean Lake Lodge Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] low compression If the pistons and rings have not bedded in yet you could have differences in the compression. Also being stored for years does not help. You cannot take proper readings with a cold and not run in engine. Besides these compression figures do not indicate it is the cause of the bad running, it should run rather well.. Check leaks in or around the intake manifold, vacuum pipe for the servo, manifold/carb gaskets? How did you set the idle mixture? Are the pistons in the carbs going up and down freely? Do the pistons in the carbs drop with a distinctive click if you lift and drop them? Blocked fuel line? Do you have enough fuel pressure at the carbs, should be around 5psi. It sounds very much like a simple fuel/carburettor problem resulting in a very weak mixture. Kees Oudesluijs NL Attean Lake Lodge schreef: > Since I first started my car a couple of weeks ago I have just not been able > to get to run even close to normal, in fact the only way I can keep it running > is to hold the chokes out most all the way. ............... > > Brad Holden > 67 BJ8 Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as frogeye at porterscustom.com http://www.team.net/archive From rdavies1 at cox.net Wed Dec 9 17:31:40 2009 From: rdavies1 at cox.net (Ron Davies) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 16:31:40 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] craigs list portland, OR In-Reply-To: <173126440912081727i21381984j298e691785d89b2d@mail.gmail.com> References: <173126440912081727i21381984j298e691785d89b2d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: "was serviced by the Portland BMC dealer since delivery" I didn't know we still had BMC dealers working on our Healeys. Time warp? Ron -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of I Erbs Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 5:27 PM To: healey help Subject: [Healeys] craigs list portland, OR http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/cto/1499613319.html NFI willing to check out anyone on list selling this? -- I Erbs Portland, OR Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as rdavies1 at cox.net http://www.team.net/archive From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Dec 9 18:04:46 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:04:46 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] low compression In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Brad - Alot of top healey experts here (and normally spot on) but they haven't read your email completely. Dave Porter has a good idea, I would check the fuel starvation (usually caused by a rusty tank that has sat and collected rust and crud while the car sat idle, clogging up your fuel system). Low compression is not your problem. First things first. SU carbs are not like your typical Holley or Carter carb when the only adjustment is float level and idle speed. Just because you set the float level and had Joe Curto rebuild them doesn't mean you've actually tuned the carbs to make the car run. Ok, now you need to think logically. You need to tune your car in the following order: 1) Adjust valve clearances (sounds like you've done that) 2) Check your points to make sure the gap is correct. Make sure plug gaps are correct also. 3) Adjust your timing using a strobe 4) Screw down the mixture adjustor screws at least two full turns to enrichen the mixture. This should at least keep your car running. 5) Now you can start adjusting your carbs using the standard adjusting sequence. Luckily Ed of Just Brits has the procedure online here http://justbrits.com/Articles/HD8tuning.html 6) Over the next 500 miles you will need to be adjusting your carbs bit by bit as the engine beds in. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 3:33 AM, Attean Lake Lodge wrote: > Since I first started my car a couple of weeks ago I have just not been > able > to get to run even close to normal, in fact the only way I can keep it > running > is to hold the chokes out most all the way. The carbs were rebuilt by Joe > Cuerto, plenty of fuel to them, proper fuel level in the bowls etc. etc. > Valve > and ignition timing dead on. I finally figured it had to be a vacuum > problem > so I just did a compression test...very depressing, a low of 100 and high > of > 125. The engine was out of the car when I bought it but had been completely > rebuilt by a reputable guy who told me he did everything right including > new > rings, pistons, crank, valves, cam etc., he also had the head planed. Yes, > I > checked the clearances and they are fine, I have been able to run the > engine > for maybe 7 or 8 minutes at most before it sputters and dies. Did the > rebuilder screw up or am I missing something here? Any thoughts will be > much > appreciated will I load the shotgun. > > Brad Holden > 67 BJ8 From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Dec 9 18:07:44 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:07:44 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] oil filter In-Reply-To: <004901ca791d$32cf7670$986e6350$@net> References: <004901ca791d$32cf7670$986e6350$@net> Message-ID: Bernie - NAPA Gold or Wix are the best filters to get (see john's email). That's what I use. I think they rate better than K&N if I recall. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 6:16 AM, John Sims wrote: > Unipart GFE 22 or GFE 121 available at Pep Boys, NAPA part 1302 or Gold > 1516, Wix 51516 available at many sources. > > John Sims, BN6 > Aberdeen, NJ > > http://www.healey6.com From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Dec 9 18:10:16 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:10:16 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] craigs list portland, OR In-Reply-To: References: <173126440912081727i21381984j298e691785d89b2d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: So it hasn't been serviced since 1985. details details... Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 8:31 AM, Ron Davies wrote: > "was serviced by the Portland BMC dealer since delivery" > I didn't know we still had BMC dealers working on our Healeys. > Time warp? > Ron > > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto: > healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of I Erbs > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 5:27 PM > To: healey help > Subject: [Healeys] craigs list portland, OR > > http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/cto/1499613319.html > NFI > willing to check out > > anyone on list selling this? > > -- > I Erbs > Portland, OR > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as rdavies1 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From frogeye at porterscustom.com Wed Dec 9 18:26:14 2009 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (Dave Porter) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 18:26:14 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] craigs list portland, OR In-Reply-To: References: <173126440912081727i21381984j298e691785d89b2d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Monty Shelton, Tom Monaco? frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff blog: http://porterbikes.com/ -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Davies Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 5:32 PM To: 'I Erbs'; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] craigs list portland, OR "was serviced by the Portland BMC dealer since delivery" I didn't know we still had BMC dealers working on our Healeys. Time warp? Ron -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of I Erbs Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 5:27 PM To: healey help Subject: [Healeys] craigs list portland, OR http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/cto/1499613319.html NFI willing to check out anyone on list selling this? -- I Erbs Portland, OR Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as rdavies1 at cox.net http://www.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as frogeye at porterscustom.com http://www.team.net/archive From csooch1 at aol.com Wed Dec 9 18:31:02 2009 From: csooch1 at aol.com (Chris Masucci) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 19:31:02 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] storage In-Reply-To: <20091209031547.26250.qmail@server278.com> References: <20091209031547.26250.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: Hi Jim, I don't know if that is available these days or not. However a suitable alternative that I have used, and stored my Healey block with for 4 years, is 2-cycle engine fogging oil. It dries thick and gooey like Cosmoline and washes off with simple green and water or similar. There wasn't a spot of rust on the block, crank or head and all sat coated in plastic bags for several years. Spray each part liberally first, cover with a large plastic bag or wrap it loosely with a plastic drop cloth, spray a nice fog into the bag and seal or wrap tightly immediately. Should be good to go for years. Cheers, Chris BJ8 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of healeymanjim at hansencc.net Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:16 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] storage is Cosmoline still on the market, and would it be plausible to cover and engine with it before long term storage. i can remember as a youngster helping my dad coat farm equipment with it. we had a few drums of ww2 surplus around and used it on lots of metal things since it rained a lot in oregon. might work. hjim Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as chris.masucci at alumni.rutgers.edu http://www.team.net/archive From rnbmail at yahoo.com Wed Dec 9 19:13:18 2009 From: rnbmail at yahoo.com (Robert Blair) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 18:13:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] low compression In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <636682.22707.qm@web37902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Brad, Does not sound serious - maybe. assuming there are no bad noises and you have good oil pressure. Questions: 1. Has it ever run well before the current problem? 2. How many miles since the so called rebuild? 3. What are all the compressions? Should be about 150 plus for a fresh motor. 4. If only one is low then it could be just stuck rings from prolonged sitting - solution is wd40 et al into the cylinder for a few days etc. 5. If all are low it could be cam timing as someone said - valves not closing correctly. 6. Air leak into inlet manifold, fuel starvation, et al could be the problem. I would suggest a very logical test sequence before taking the head off. Robert N. Blair Yellow 65BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Attean Lake Lodge wrote: > From: Attean Lake Lodge > Subject: [Healeys] low compression > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 11:33 AM > Since I first started my car a couple > of weeks ago I have just not been able > to get to run even close to normal, in fact the only way I > can keep it running > is to hold the chokes out most all the way. The carbs were > rebuilt by Joe > Cuerto, plenty of fuel to them, proper fuel level in the > bowls etc. etc. Valve > and ignition timing dead on. I finally figured it had to be > a vacuum problem > so I just did a compression test...very depressing, a low > of 100 and high of > 125. The engine was out of the car when I bought it but had > been completely > rebuilt by a reputable guy who told me he did everything > right including new > rings, pistons, crank, valves, cam etc., he also had the > head planed. Yes, I > checked the clearances and they are fine, I have been able > to run the engine > for maybe 7 or 8 minutes at most before it sputters and > dies. Did the > rebuilder screw up or am I missing something here? Any > thoughts will be much > appreciated will I load the shotgun. > > Brad Holden > 67 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as rnbmail at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From bspidell at comcast.net Wed Dec 9 19:24:05 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 18:24:05 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Online Mag/Early FF (NO HEALEY CONTENT) Message-ID: <4B205BC5.2010101@comcast.net> /7QPzZT: Permission denied From frogeye at porterscustom.com Wed Dec 9 19:30:24 2009 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (Dave Porter) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 19:30:24 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] FW: low compression Message-ID: <8908FAFD33F248D8BA796BD37A7A0CF4@oscar> : RE: [Healeys] low compression Then it is flooding to point of drowning. Now it does become a probable vacuum leak if you need the chokes to keep it running. frogeye at porterscustom.com starvation problem but the (new pump, tank, line, filter is delivering a quart of fuel per minute to the carbs. From schauss at worldnet.att.net Wed Dec 9 19:59:40 2009 From: schauss at worldnet.att.net (Peter Schauss) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 21:59:40 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] craigs list portland, OR In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20091210030001.8E30F18764C@autox.team.net> "it spent most of its life in Lake Oswego". And it has no rust? Peter Schauss 1963 BJ7 1980 MGB > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys- > bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Davies > Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 7:32 PM > To: 'I Erbs'; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] craigs list portland, OR > > "was serviced by the Portland BMC dealer since delivery" > I didn't know we still had BMC dealers working on our Healeys. > Time warp? > Ron > > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys- > bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of I Erbs > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 5:27 PM > To: healey help > Subject: [Healeys] craigs list portland, OR > > http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/cto/1499613319.html > NFI > willing to check out > > anyone on list selling this? > > -- > I Erbs > Portland, OR > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as rdavies1 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as schauss at worldnet.att.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From bspidell at comcast.net Wed Dec 9 20:12:11 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 19:12:11 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Online Mag/Early FF (NO HEALEY CONTENT) Message-ID: <4B20670B.9060408@comcast.net> From an entertaining magazine (might require sign-up--it's free): http://www.windingroad.com/articles/lists/list-ten-worst-cars-for-a-blind-date/?src=Nextscreen or *http://tinyurl.com/yhc957f bs * -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From stmiller96 at hotmail.com Wed Dec 9 20:29:01 2009 From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 22:29:01 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Boot lock update Message-ID: Thanks to all that assisted. IT NOW LOCKS!!! When I had my shop, I would have never taken the time to pull one apart because it would probably have been cheaper to buy a new one, and less likely to come back. Working on my own cars is a different story, saving the money is a good trade off for the time spent. What I found was the "nub" on the bottom of the barrel had broken off, and couldn't lock. So I drilled a small hole and made a pin to replace the "nub". Cleaned/ lubed and presto- works great! Thanks all. The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." _________________________________________________________________ Get gifts for them and cashback for you. Try Bing now. http://www.bing.com/shopping/search?q=xbox+games&scope=cashback&form=MSHYCB&p ubl=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MSHYCB_Shopping_Giftsforthem_cashback_1x1 From britishcars at shaw.ca Wed Dec 9 21:24:23 2009 From: britishcars at shaw.ca (PG) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 20:24:23 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Pressure Plate Balance Message-ID: <7vpj0h$60ppss@pd3mo1so-svcs.prod.shaw.ca> Pressure Plates are supposed to be neutral balanced. Has anybody ever installed one that was not balanced and caused a vibration? From jkrowe46 at bigpond.net.au Wed Dec 9 22:29:48 2009 From: jkrowe46 at bigpond.net.au (John & Kerry Rowe) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:29:48 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Pressure Plate Balance In-Reply-To: <7vpj0h$60ppss@pd3mo1so-svcs.prod.shaw.ca> Message-ID: <20091210053000.QYPO24930.nskntotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com@rowe4323ef3cc5> I've never given them an even chance, and get them balanced as a matter of course. They always come back with either holes drilled in them or a plate welded somewhere -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of PG Sent: Thursday, 10 December 2009 2:24 PM To: 'healey' Subject: [Healeys] Pressure Plate Balance Pressure Plates are supposed to be neutral balanced. Has anybody ever installed one that was not balanced and caused a vibration? From lists at brits-n-pieces.com Thu Dec 10 02:55:19 2009 From: lists at brits-n-pieces.com (Eric Frenken) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:55:19 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] clutch interchangability Message-ID: <002401ca797e$e22d24d0$a6876e70$@com> Healey specialists, the 6 cylinders started life with a 9" clutch, while on the 3000s this was increased to 10". Sometime in 1963 (on the MK IIa) this was changed to 9.5" (diaphragm spring type) and later in 1964 reduced to 9". I thought I had read somewhere that the earlier (pre MK IIa) model clutches can easily be converted to the 9.5" diaphragm spring type clutch by simply exchanging all 3 clutch components (driven plate, clutch cover and release bearing). Lately I tried to install a new 9.5" clutch into a late (center shifter) BT7 but found that the clutch cover doesn't fit. The holes on the outer edge of the original 10" clutch cover (which take the screws to the flywheel) are about 11 5/8" apart (measured across the center of the clutch cover), while these on the 9.5" cover are only about 10 5/8" apart. My question is, do I have to change the flywheel as well and which other "surprises" do I have to expect? Is there a clutch set I could use on all 6 cylinders? Thanks, Eric From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Dec 10 04:23:32 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:23:32 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] clutch interchangability In-Reply-To: <002401ca797e$e22d24d0$a6876e70$@com> References: <002401ca797e$e22d24d0$a6876e70$@com> Message-ID: Eric - The 6 cyl Flywheel will work on any 6 cyl healey, they are all more or less identical. With respect to the clutch, all you have to do is take the clutch cover and flywheel to your local machine shop (where you had the flywheel surfaced) and they can re-peg the flywheel for you. If they know how to do flywheel surfacing they will likely know how to repeg the flywheel. Make sure they balance the flywheel and cover after they repeg, so take your mount bolts too. If I'm not mistaken, I think the 9.5" clutch cover plate has two pegs and the 9" clutch cover plate has three pegs. I had it repegged on my '64 BJ8 15 years ago when you couldn't get new 9.5" clutches. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Eric Frenken wrote: > Healey specialists, > > the 6 cylinders started life with a 9" clutch, while on the 3000s this was > increased to 10". Sometime in 1963 (on the MK IIa) this was changed to 9.5" > (diaphragm spring type) and later in 1964 reduced to 9". I thought I had > read somewhere that the earlier (pre MK IIa) model clutches can easily be > converted to the 9.5" diaphragm spring type clutch by simply exchanging all > 3 clutch components (driven plate, clutch cover and release bearing). > > Lately I tried to install a new 9.5" clutch into a late (center shifter) > BT7 > but found that the clutch cover doesn't fit. The holes on the outer edge of > the original 10" clutch cover (which take the screws to the flywheel) are > about 11 5/8" apart (measured across the center of the clutch cover), while > these on the 9.5" cover are only about 10 5/8" apart. > > My question is, do I have to change the flywheel as well and which other > "surprises" do I have to expect? Is there a clutch set I could use on all 6 > cylinders? > > Thanks, > > Eric From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Dec 10 06:43:36 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:43:36 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] cold air box 3000 In-Reply-To: <986F07B8-3C34-4E69-B81F-FCDCF38EE5A7@cox.net> References: <173126440912040853s11a3d448s5c1eb1e8a358f41c@mail.gmail.com>, <01a701ca775e$6152adc0$23f80940$@net>, <8E1686C8F2194EC4A6D02BC068D51BA8@ACM045>, , <986F07B8-3C34-4E69-B81F-FCDCF38EE5A7@cox.net> Message-ID: Is a 'cool' cold air box substandard? ;) Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada > From: e-wilkins at cox.net > > This one looks cool: > > http://tinyurl.com/yzsn8wk > > BTW, I had gone as far as making a mockup in cardboard of a cold air > box for my triple SU Healey, but was recommended against it as it > might starve the rear carb. I will still flow cool air to the carbs > somehow... > > Wilko > San Diego > > On Dec 7, 2009, at 6:56 PM, I Erbs wrote: > > > The objective is to look cool > > > > I Erbs > > Sent from my iPod From eyera3 at gmail.com Thu Dec 10 09:05:56 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:05:56 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] cold air box 3000 In-Reply-To: References: <173126440912040853s11a3d448s5c1eb1e8a358f41c@mail.gmail.com> <01a701ca775e$6152adc0$23f80940$@net> <8E1686C8F2194EC4A6D02BC068D51BA8@ACM045> <986F07B8-3C34-4E69-B81F-FCDCF38EE5A7@cox.net> Message-ID: <173126440912100805t4cd32a50gb990cca5433057dd@mail.gmail.com> based the replys I have gotten, the concern is air starvation to rear carb. Especially on tri-carb engines. Not sure why it was a good idea on the 4 cyl cars, but the 6cyl. Maybe the carbs are closer together on the 4s. How did they push air into the carbs on the rally cars? They have an air vent in the grill. I thought that fed the carbs. Again, its more of a aesthetic thing. I think an air box looks cool. Will provide any details on what I find out that works cheers, 2 fenders down, 2 to go! anyone have a spare left fender rear they need out of their garage? Don't mind fixing the dogleg, But mine has a ton of bondo above the swag line and along the back side section. Way to much to fix, plus have been unable to locate a replacement panel for the section above the swag line. So if you have a good section from half way back from the middle of the wheel arch, send a photo and let me know. John Wilson, if you are reading this. did you find anything for me in your barn? I'll drive down this weekend. How about you Bill Bolton. There has to be a good section left from Russ' shop.... Ira On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 5:43 AM, wrote: > Is a 'cool' cold air box substandard? ;) > > > > Robert Duquette > Ottawa ON Canada > > > > From: e-wilkins at cox.net > > > > > This one looks cool: > > > > http://tinyurl.com/yzsn8wk > > > > BTW, I had gone as far as making a mockup in cardboard of a cold air > > box for my triple SU Healey, but was recommended against it as it > > might starve the rear carb. I will still flow cool air to the carbs > > somehow... > > > > Wilko > > San Diego > > > > On Dec 7, 2009, at 6:56 PM, I Erbs wrote: > > > > > The objective is to look cool > > > > > > I Erbs > > > Sent from my iPod > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- I Erbs Portland, OR From rdavies1 at cox.net Thu Dec 10 09:09:29 2009 From: rdavies1 at cox.net (Ron Davies) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:09:29 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] craigs list portland, OR In-Reply-To: <20091210030001.8E30F18764C@autox.team.net> References: <20091210030001.8E30F18764C@autox.team.net> Message-ID: Perhaps Lake Oswego is frozen solid year round? Ron ----------------------------- "it spent most of its life in Lake Oswego". And it has no rust? Peter Schauss 1963 BJ7 1980 MGB From pete_groh at yahoo.com Thu Dec 10 09:13:22 2009 From: pete_groh at yahoo.com (Pete Groh) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:13:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Boot lock, new and old handle lock insert length Message-ID: <65337.18013.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> On the new reproduction handle, the length of the lock insert is longer than the original lock insert. I re-keyed a lock insert to match a car owners ignition key and did not line up flush as the original. Pete Groh (KeyGuy) Ellicott Ctiy MD From eyera3 at gmail.com Thu Dec 10 09:37:49 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:37:49 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] heritage certificate question Message-ID: <173126440912100837m48c7998fpb29dbd121da97cce@mail.gmail.com> My car has tags from a BN4, although the engine is a 29D and it has disc brakes/disc wheels. I was told when I bought it 35 years ago that the tags came from a scrapped car. If I send in the engine # to the trust, will the certificate have an original ID#, so I could make a new ID plate and register my car as a correct 3000? The engine # 29D RU /H9267. Thanks -- I Erbs Portland, OR From eyera3 at gmail.com Thu Dec 10 09:43:59 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:43:59 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] healey engine sound ringtone Message-ID: <173126440912100843k18926ef6p92efc88a2b89113d@mail.gmail.com> http://www.mytinyphone.com/ringtone/147811/ -- I Erbs Portland, OR From ahbn6 at verizon.net Thu Dec 10 10:40:44 2009 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:40:44 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] craigs list portland, OR In-Reply-To: References: <20091210030001.8E30F18764C@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <00ca01ca79bf$e6cd9e70$b468db50$@net> Lake Oswego is also the name of a town. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Davies Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:09 AM To: 'Peter Schauss'; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] craigs list portland, OR Perhaps Lake Oswego is frozen solid year round? Ron ----------------------------- "it spent most of its life in Lake Oswego". And it has no rust? Peter Schauss 1963 BJ7 1980 MGB From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 10 10:45:18 2009 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:45:18 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] heritage certificate question In-Reply-To: <173126440912100837m48c7998fpb29dbd121da97cce@mail.gmail.com> References: <173126440912100837m48c7998fpb29dbd121da97cce@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0993DD3A-9316-4BB5-B4B6-EB017373F493@sbcglobal.net> So what is correct, Is the car a BN4 or a BT7. There is alot of BN4s running around with 3000 motors installed. On the right front shock tower on the front edge there is a chassis number stamped into the frame. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Dec 10, 2009, at 8:37 AM, I Erbs wrote: > My car has tags from a BN4, although the engine is a 29D and it has > disc > brakes/disc wheels. I was told when I bought it 35 years ago that > the tags > came from a scrapped car. > If I send in the engine # to the trust, will the certificate have an > original ID#, so I could make a new ID plate and register my car as a > correct 3000? > The engine # 29D RU /H9267. > Thanks > > -- > I Erbs > Portland, OR > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From eyera3 at gmail.com Thu Dec 10 11:13:42 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:13:42 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] heritage certificate question In-Reply-To: <0993DD3A-9316-4BB5-B4B6-EB017373F493@sbcglobal.net> References: <173126440912100837m48c7998fpb29dbd121da97cce@mail.gmail.com> <0993DD3A-9316-4BB5-B4B6-EB017373F493@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <173126440912101013w776d067y7d5bc9fb673f7378@mail.gmail.com> thanks I will look for the chassis # No. BN4s came with disc brakes. This is actually not the original body. It was purchased after a women cut me off and short stopped in front of me. My original car was crushed, so I bought another car without drivetrain or ID plate and transfered everything over to the donor. so its truly a mis-matched deal. I will check for a chassis # On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 9:45 AM, David Nock wrote: > So what is correct, Is the car a BN4 or a BT7. There is alot of BN4s > running around with 3000 motors installed. > On the right front shock tower on the front edge there is a chassis number > stamped into the frame. > > > > David Nock > > British Car Specialists > > Stockton Ca 95205 > > 209-948-8767 > > > www.britishcarspecialists.com > > . > > . > > On Dec 10, 2009, at 8:37 AM, I Erbs wrote: > > My car has tags from a BN4, although the engine is a 29D and it has disc > brakes/disc wheels. I was told when I bought it 35 years ago that the tags > came from a scrapped car. > If I send in the engine # to the trust, will the certificate have an > original ID#, so I could make a new ID plate and register my car as a > correct 3000? > The engine # 29D RU /H9267. > Thanks > > -- > I Erbs > Portland, OR > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > -- I Erbs Portland, OR From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 10 11:21:50 2009 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:21:50 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] heritage certificate question In-Reply-To: <173126440912101013w776d067y7d5bc9fb673f7378@mail.gmail.com> References: <173126440912100837m48c7998fpb29dbd121da97cce@mail.gmail.com> <0993DD3A-9316-4BB5-B4B6-EB017373F493@sbcglobal.net> <173126440912101013w776d067y7d5bc9fb673f7378@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9C9504C4-F6D3-4C69-974A-898CA3EF6E38@sbcglobal.net> There was a very few that came with 4 wheel disc brakes. We had one here in the shop back in the late 80s. There are also a lot of 100/6s that are out there that have installed the disc brakes from a BT7 since it is only a bolt on deal. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Dec 10, 2009, at 10:13 AM, I Erbs wrote: > thanks I will look for the chassis # No. BN4s came with disc > brakes. This is actually not the original body. It was purchased > after a women cut me off and short stopped in front of me. My > original car was crushed, so I bought another car without > drivetrain or ID plate and transfered everything over to the donor. > so its truly a mis-matched deal. I will check for a chassis # > > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 9:45 AM, David Nock > wrote: > So what is correct, Is the car a BN4 or a BT7. There is alot of > BN4s running around with 3000 motors installed. > On the right front shock tower on the front edge there is a chassis > number stamped into the frame. > > > > David Nock > British Car Specialists > Stockton Ca 95205 > 209-948-8767 > > www.britishcarspecialists.com > . > . > > On Dec 10, 2009, at 8:37 AM, I Erbs wrote: > >> My car has tags from a BN4, although the engine is a 29D and it >> has disc >> brakes/disc wheels. I was told when I bought it 35 years ago that >> the tags >> came from a scrapped car. >> If I send in the engine # to the trust, will the certificate have an >> original ID#, so I could make a new ID plate and register my car as a >> correct 3000? >> The engine # 29D RU /H9267. >> Thanks >> >> -- >> I Erbs >> Portland, OR >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as healeydoc at sbcglobal.net >> >> http://www.team.net/archive > > > > > -- > I Erbs > Portland, OR From e-wilkins at cox.net Thu Dec 10 11:26:10 2009 From: e-wilkins at cox.net (Eric (Rick) Wilkins) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:26:10 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] cold air box 3000 In-Reply-To: <173126440912100805t4cd32a50gb990cca5433057dd@mail.gmail.com> References: <173126440912040853s11a3d448s5c1eb1e8a358f41c@mail.gmail.com> <01a701ca775e$6152adc0$23f80940$@net> <8E1686C8F2194EC4A6D02BC068D51BA8@ACM045> <986F07B8-3C34-4E69-B81F-FCDCF38EE5A7@cox.net> <173126440912100805t4cd32a50gb990cca5433057dd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3D1A78F1-B8A3-4F17-81BF-CD0535DA19DA@cox.net> The works cars don't have anything that "pushes" air into the carbs. Air is pulled in through long runner type manifolds. The obvious idea of the cold air box is to get cooler air than a hot engine room has. Engine room temps on works Healeys were lowered by the use of the wing vents, opened up mesh grills with special aluminum plates that directed more air through the radiator and fresh air intakes on the sides to feed outside air into the carb area. Wilko On Dec 10, 2009, at 8:05 AM, I Erbs wrote: > based the replys I have gotten, the concern is air starvation to > rear carb. > Especially on tri-carb engines. Not sure why it was a good idea on > the 4 cyl > cars, but the 6cyl. Maybe the carbs are closer together on the 4s. > How did > they push air into the carbs on the rally cars? They have an air > vent in > the grill. I thought that fed the carbs. Again, its more of a > aesthetic > thing. I think an air box looks cool. Will provide any details on > what I > find out that works > cheers, From tjmorrio at colby.edu Thu Dec 10 11:30:13 2009 From: tjmorrio at colby.edu (Thomas Morrione) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:30:13 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Blue material for dash needed. Message-ID: Does anyone happen to have a piece of blue material big enough to cover the center of a BJ8 dash (where heater control is) that they9d be willing to part with? I9d be pleased to reimburse you for it and for postage. I only need a bit about 11 X 17 inches. I9d like to put the dash together and get it in before doing the whole interior (and that9s a ways away). I am hopeful that a color match to the Heritage blue color later will be close enough is that a reasonable assumption? Thanks in advance. Tom 65 BJ8 In Process From eyera3 at gmail.com Thu Dec 10 11:31:02 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:31:02 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] craigs list portland, OR In-Reply-To: <00ca01ca79bf$e6cd9e70$b468db50$@net> References: <20091210030001.8E30F18764C@autox.team.net> <00ca01ca79bf$e6cd9e70$b468db50$@net> Message-ID: <173126440912101031l515d8664l44f9e6e1981b09@mail.gmail.com> it was originally called skunk lake. the name was changed to attract folks to buy land. It is now the most upscale city in Oregon. named for Oswego, New York. many settlers brought their home town names here. we also have a Dallas, a Detroit and a Portland. BTW the Portland name was picked by a coin flip the loser from Boston lost out. On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 9:40 AM, John Sims wrote: > Lake Oswego is also the name of a town. > > John Sims, BN6 > Aberdeen, NJ > > http://www.healey6.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto: > healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Ron Davies > Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:09 AM > To: 'Peter Schauss'; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] craigs list portland, OR > > Perhaps Lake Oswego is frozen solid year round? > Ron > ----------------------------- > "it spent most of its life in Lake Oswego". > > And it has no rust? > > Peter Schauss > 1963 BJ7 > 1980 MGB > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- I Erbs Portland, OR From sbyers at ec.rr.com Thu Dec 10 11:38:51 2009 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:38:51 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] heritage certificate question In-Reply-To: <173126440912100837m48c7998fpb29dbd121da97cce@mail.gmail.com> References: <173126440912100837m48c7998fpb29dbd121da97cce@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001f01ca79c8$0510fd20$0f32f760$@rr.com> Ira, BMIHT will issue a certificate identifying the original chassis and body number and other manufacturing details for the car that left the factory with engine 29D/RU/H9267 (BMIHT charges a premium for doing a reverse search on an engine or body number). However, are you sure that the engine is original to the chassis that it now resides in? If not, then making the VIN plate conform to the engine number could cause some problems if the "true" chassis is still out there somewhere. I am aware of a situation with a BJ8 a few years ago where the owner in Arizona went to the DMV to register his car. The DMV did some kind of national search on the VIN and turned up a car in Wisconsin using the same VIN and would not allow him to register his car until HE resolved the conflict. Some DMVs are easier to convince to change a number than others, so if you show up with your new VIN plate attached with screws the Oregon DMV may not buy your story. But it's your car..... Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of I Erbs Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:38 AM To: healey help Subject: [Healeys] heritage certificate question My car has tags from a BN4, although the engine is a 29D and it has disc brakes/disc wheels. I was told when I bought it 35 years ago that the tags came from a scrapped car. If I send in the engine # to the trust, will the certificate have an original ID#, so I could make a new ID plate and register my car as a correct 3000? The engine # 29D RU /H9267. Thanks -- I Erbs Portland, OR From eyera3 at gmail.com Thu Dec 10 12:32:58 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:32:58 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] heritage certificate question In-Reply-To: <001f01ca79c8$0510fd20$0f32f760$@rr.com> References: <173126440912100837m48c7998fpb29dbd121da97cce@mail.gmail.com> <001f01ca79c8$0510fd20$0f32f760$@rr.com> Message-ID: <173126440912101132v9a7fb39v64d996395e6546a@mail.gmail.com> car and engine do not belong together. no questions about that. Norm Nock gave a me a hint to find the chassis number. I will look for it and try to get a reg # from chassis. It would be amusing to pay the money to find out my car is a BN4 I know I saw a list of chassis #s and what series they belong to. When I get the number I'll look it up before I send in the money I have BT7 tags that belongs to a car that left the country, but do not want to use it.I just would like to know what I own :) if its a BN4 with uprated engine and brakes, so be it.... Ira On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 10:38 AM, BJ8 Healeys wrote: > Ira, BMIHT will issue a certificate identifying the original chassis and > body number and other manufacturing details for the car that left the > factory with engine 29D/RU/H9267 (BMIHT charges a premium for doing a > reverse search on an engine or body number). However, are you sure that > the > engine is original to the chassis that it now resides in? If not, then > making the VIN plate conform to the engine number could cause some problems > if the "true" chassis is still out there somewhere. > > I am aware of a situation with a BJ8 a few years ago where the owner in > Arizona went to the DMV to register his car. The DMV did some kind of > national search on the VIN and turned up a car in Wisconsin using the same > VIN and would not allow him to register his car until HE resolved the > conflict. > > Some DMVs are easier to convince to change a number than others, so if you > show up with your new VIN plate attached with screws the Oregon DMV may not > buy your story. > > But it's your car..... > > Steve Byers > HBJ8L/36666 > BJ8 Registry > Havelock, NC USA > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto: > healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of I Erbs > Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:38 AM > To: healey help > Subject: [Healeys] heritage certificate question > > My car has tags from a BN4, although the engine is a 29D and it has disc > brakes/disc wheels. I was told when I bought it 35 years ago that the tags > came from a scrapped car. > If I send in the engine # to the trust, will the certificate have an > original ID#, so I could make a new ID plate and register my car as a > correct 3000? > The engine # 29D RU /H9267. > Thanks > > -- > I Erbs > Portland, OR > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- I Erbs Portland, OR From Healey100M at gmail.com Thu Dec 10 13:06:57 2009 From: Healey100M at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:06:57 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BN1 Water temp/Oil pressure gauge Message-ID: <6BD6D2B1-CF75-43A6-B051-7C72CBEFC671@gmail.com> List, I need to pull the water temp/oil pressure gauge out of the BN1 for repair as it's not registering any water temperature. Oil pressure is fine. Are there any issues with disconnecting the oil pressure line? I know not to disconnect the capillary tube on the water temp. side. Finally, are the replacement gauges any good or better to repair the original? TIA, Randy Randy Hicks www.austinhealey100m.com '56 100M '55 BN1 Dealer LeMans '62 BN7 MkII '65 BJ8 '53 MGTD Healey100M at gmail.com From healeyrick at yahoo.com Thu Dec 10 13:30:28 2009 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:30:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] heritage certificate question In-Reply-To: <001f01ca79c8$0510fd20$0f32f760$@rr.com> Message-ID: <327204.85399.qm@web51407.mail.re2.yahoo.com> i agree with Steve and would leave well enough alone, you don't want to be charged with VIN tampering if another car shows up in the system with the same chassis ID. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Thu, 12/10/09, BJ8 Healeys wrote: From: BJ8 Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] heritage certificate question To: "'healey help'" Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 1:38 PM Ira, BMIHT will issue a certificate identifying the original chassis and body number and other manufacturing details for the car that left the factory with engine 29D/RU/H9267 (BMIHT charges a premium for doing a reverse search on an engine or body number). However, are you sure that the engine is original to the chassis that it now resides in? If not, then making the VIN plate conform to the engine number could cause some problems if the "true" chassis is still out there somewhere. I am aware of a situation with a BJ8 a few years ago where the owner in Arizona went to the DMV to register his car. The DMV did some kind of national search on the VIN and turned up a car in Wisconsin using the same VIN and would not allow him to register his car until HE resolved the conflict. Some DMVs are easier to convince to change a number than others, so if you show up with your new VIN plate attached with screws the Oregon DMV may not buy your story. But it's your car..... Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of I Erbs Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:38 AM To: healey help Subject: [Healeys] heritage certificate question My car has tags from a BN4, although the engine is a 29D and it has disc brakes/disc wheels. I was told when I bought it 35 years ago that the tags came from a scrapped car. If I send in the engine # to the trust, will the certificate have an original ID#, so I could make a new ID plate and register my car as a correct 3000? The engine # 29D RU /H9267. Thanks -- I Erbs Portland, OR Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive From coudesluijs at chello.nl Thu Dec 10 14:14:08 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:14:08 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] BN1 Water temp/Oil pressure gauge In-Reply-To: <6BD6D2B1-CF75-43A6-B051-7C72CBEFC671@gmail.com> References: <6BD6D2B1-CF75-43A6-B051-7C72CBEFC671@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B2164A0.5080307@chello.nl> If it is a black dial new ones can be had for about $150 or less in the UK. There are plenty about on ebay. A firm that appearantly bought the manufacturing rights is Caerbont, http://www.caigauge.com/ . Champagne coloured dials are harder to get I believe. Repair can be done by a competent restorer, but some are better than others. Be always very carefull with the capillary, no kinks no dismanteling. Always fit tight to the engine and make a few loops between the last solid mounting from the engine to the bulkhead or wherever it is fixed to the body. Kees Oudesluijs Randy Hicks schreef: > List, I need to pull the water temp/oil pressure gauge out of the BN1 for > repair as it's not registering any water temperature. Oil pressure is fine. > > Are there any issues with disconnecting the oil pressure line? I know not to > disconnect the capillary tube on the water temp. side. > > Finally, are the replacement gauges any good or better to repair the > original? > > TIA, > > Randy From comkanuk at cgocable.ca Thu Dec 10 14:14:46 2009 From: comkanuk at cgocable.ca (gilbert gauthier) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:14:46 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BN1 Water temp/Oil pressure gauge In-Reply-To: <6BD6D2B1-CF75-43A6-B051-7C72CBEFC671@gmail.com> References: <6BD6D2B1-CF75-43A6-B051-7C72CBEFC671@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8592F31A-B778-45F1-B0EA-4F54D5DF0FD7@cgocable.ca> Hi Randy I know that at Moma in Alberqueque NM they do that job with theirs eyes close, i saw the guy did it and he knows the thing. If you disconnect it will need a repair man to refit with welding. Cheers gilbert Le 09-12-10 ` 15:06, Randy Hicks a icrit : > List, I need to pull the water temp/oil pressure gauge out of the > BN1 for > repair as it's not registering any water temperature. Oil pressure > is fine. > > Are there any issues with disconnecting the oil pressure line? I > know not to > disconnect the capillary tube on the water temp. side. > > Finally, are the replacement gauges any good or better to repair the > original? > > TIA, > > Randy > > Randy Hicks > www.austinhealey100m.com > '56 100M > '55 BN1 Dealer LeMans > '62 BN7 MkII > '65 BJ8 > '53 MGTD > Healey100M at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as comkanuk at cgocable.ca > > http://www.team.net/archive From stmiller96 at hotmail.com Thu Dec 10 14:16:10 2009 From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:16:10 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] pressure plate balance Message-ID: I had one that the springs were set out of balance (from new). When you put your foot on the clutch pedal you could feel it vibrate. I had to take everything back apart and found by running the engine with no gearbox attached and the clutch installed on the flywheel, that the release plate would wobble! I took a sharpie marker and ran a piece of wood across the gearbox (cross ways) opening for stability, then slowly moved the sharpie forward until it would make a "high" mark on the release plate. After a spring adjustment I would repeat several times until I got it near perfect. Once together it felt very smooth. The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." _________________________________________________________________ Chat with Messenger straight from your Hotmail inbox. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/hotmail_bl1/hotmail_bl1.aspx?oci d=PID23879::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-ww:WM_IMHM_4:092009 From gblack at hextrans.com Thu Dec 10 15:28:17 2009 From: gblack at hextrans.com (Gary Black) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:28:17 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Low Compression Message-ID: <279A85FB5C7C5843AD76468E44D1D7ED014EFB48@openwheel.hextrans.com> I'm coming in late on this one, but in case the problem hasn't been solved (engine runs rough, carbs must be choked), I had this same problem recently. I had reversed two of the spark plug wires. Easy thing to check. > Since I first started my car a couple of weeks ago I have just not > been able to get to run even close to normal, in fact the only way I > can keep it running is to hold the chokes out most all the way. ............... > > Brad Holden > 67 BJ8 Gary Black, AICP President Hexagon Transportation Consultants, Inc. San Jose | Gilroy | Pleasanton | Marina del Rey | Phoenix 40 S. Market Street, Ste 600 | San Jose, California 95113 ' 408.971.6100 | 7 408.971.6102 | www.hextrans.com P Please consider the environment before printing this material. From dwflagg at juno.com Thu Dec 10 15:41:56 2009 From: dwflagg at juno.com (dwflagg) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:41:56 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] SU Carb Restoration/Rebuild Message-ID: <20091210.144228.23159.47176@mailpop01.dca.untd.com> Is anyone familiar with Paltech Technologies LLC, or Chester Gillings of SU Carbs.com with regard to rebuilding or restoring SU carbs. Have seen their work (pictures) on eBay and it looks good, but pictures don't tell the whole story. TIA. Doug ____________________________________________________________ Banking Click here to find the perfect banking opportunity! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=rZJiAcgGLWG5Jsw3HJ7TAQAAJ1B-9ttc3k1I_21D8YCzT29EAAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAXeAAAAAA= From jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com Thu Dec 10 15:50:17 2009 From: jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com (jerry wall) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:50:17 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Blue material for dash needed. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9baa446a0912101450j949aea3i7d355b027cf8796f@mail.gmail.com> why not get the vinyl you need from heritage? cheers, jerry On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Thomas Morrione wrote: > Does anyone happen to have a piece of blue material big enough to cover the > center of a BJ8 dash (where heater control is) that they9d be willing to > part with? I9d be pleased to reimburse you for it and for postage. I only > need a bit about 11 X 17 inches. I9d like to put the dash together and get > it in before doing the whole interior (and that9s a ways away). I am > hopeful > that a color match to the Heritage blue color later will be close enough > is that a reasonable assumption? > Thanks in advance. > Tom > 65 BJ8 In Process > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- jerry wall BN6 rowlett, tx From 57healey at gmail.com Thu Dec 10 18:30:15 2009 From: 57healey at gmail.com (Patton Dickson) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:30:15 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] healey engine sound ringtone In-Reply-To: <173126440912100843k18926ef6p92efc88a2b89113d@mail.gmail.com> References: <173126440912100843k18926ef6p92efc88a2b89113d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <743b1e2f0912101730i35c69465k8319bc6567b9d4b5@mail.gmail.com> Hey that's the one I uploaded! Enjoy On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 10:43 AM, I Erbs wrote: > http://www.mytinyphone.com/ringtone/147811/ > > -- > I Erbs From scvc70 at epix.net Thu Dec 10 19:19:26 2009 From: scvc70 at epix.net (Carr&Edwards) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:19:26 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 100 seats Message-ID: <4461D02203AE47B3919F8EC0E2419BC7@computer624080> Work on "Cinderella" the garage-sale Healey continues, and once again I need help from the list! Yesterday I stripped all the upholstery from the seats, so the metal frames can be sandblasted. One of the car's many DPOs had put vinyl covers over the original upholstery. Apparently the covers were too small, so he took a hacksaw to the "ears" on the seat backs where the pivot bolts go! We need to weld them back up to original contours, but have no idea how much was cut off. Does anyone have a bare metal 100 seatback that could be traced to give us a pattern of the last 6 - 8 inches of the ears? Thanks in advance, Sarah Carr BN1 in PA From healeybruce at roadrunner.com Thu Dec 10 19:41:07 2009 From: healeybruce at roadrunner.com (Healey Bruce) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:41:07 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] YOM again References: Message-ID: <00dd01ca7a0b$648cf9f0$9001a8c0@home> Hi Richard. I have 1960 YOM plates on my Healey. It took a bit of doing at the DMV, but the Healey did NOT have them originally. It is not necessary to show they were continually on the car. What you say is (or was) correct for black plates (1962+), but not older. And I think the black plates are now available as YOM. Bruce Steele 1960 BN7 Brea, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Kahn" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 3:32 PM Subject: [Healeys] YOM again > Bottom line. California DMV does not want YOM plates on your car and will > only > allow them if you can prove they either came off the car originally or you > can > prove the first sticker (on the bottom of a fat pile of later stickers) on > the > plate had the exact year your car was designed for, regardless of year > made. > ie, A 64 model year needs to have a 64 sticker on the plate you submit. > Numbers and letters embossed on the plate mean nothing. > If others have had problems with the California DMV regardless of make of > the > car, or know any one who is having a problem, please contact me at: > tahoehealey at hotmail.com. > I would like to start a letter writing campaign to the assembly and > senators > to have the law re-defined to be interpreted as it was meant to be > interpreted. > Sorry to bother those who have no interest in this. > Rich Kahn > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live Hotmail gives you a free,exclusive gift. > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/hotmail_bl1/hotmail_bl1.aspx?oci > d=PID23879::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-ww:WM_IMHM_7:092009 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeybruce at roadrunner.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From ahbn6 at verizon.net Thu Dec 10 19:45:14 2009 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:45:14 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] healey engine sound ringtone In-Reply-To: <743b1e2f0912101730i35c69465k8319bc6567b9d4b5@mail.gmail.com> References: <173126440912100843k18926ef6p92efc88a2b89113d@mail.gmail.com> <743b1e2f0912101730i35c69465k8319bc6567b9d4b5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <013201ca7a0b$f7894d80$e69be880$@net> And the one I have on my site. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Patton Dickson Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8:30 PM To: I Erbs Cc: healey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] healey engine sound ringtone Hey that's the one I uploaded! Enjoy On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 10:43 AM, I Erbs wrote: > http://www.mytinyphone.com/ringtone/147811/ > > -- > I Erbs From frogeye at porterscustom.com Thu Dec 10 19:53:12 2009 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (Dave Porter) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:53:12 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Low Compression In-Reply-To: <279A85FB5C7C5843AD76468E44D1D7ED014EFB48@openwheel.hextrans.com> References: <279A85FB5C7C5843AD76468E44D1D7ED014EFB48@openwheel.hextrans.com> Message-ID: 15-too young 36-too old 24-just right ;>) frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff blog: http://porterbikes.com/ -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary Black Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 3:28 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Low Compression I'm coming in late on this one, but in case the problem hasn't been solved (engine runs rough, carbs must be choked), I had this same problem recently. I had reversed two of the spark plug wires. Easy thing to check. > Since I first started my car a couple of weeks ago I have just not > been able to get to run even close to normal, in fact the only way I > can keep it running is to hold the chokes out most all the way. ............... > > Brad Holden > 67 BJ8 Gary Black, AICP President Hexagon Transportation Consultants, Inc. San Jose | Gilroy | Pleasanton | Marina del Rey | Phoenix 40 S. Market Street, Ste 600 | San Jose, California 95113 ' 408.971.6100 | 7 408.971.6102 | www.hextrans.com P Please consider the environment before printing this material. Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as frogeye at porterscustom.com http://www.team.net/archive From eyera3 at gmail.com Thu Dec 10 21:20:35 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:20:35 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Low Compression Message-ID: <4b21c84f.9413f30a.52b1.79a6@mx.google.com> LOL Told my teenage son that method of remembering the fire order he almost fell out of his chair laughing sent from my cellular PDA I Erbs -----Original Message----- From: Dave Porter Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 6:53 PM To: 'Gary Black' ; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Low Compression 15-too young 36-too old 24-just right ;>) frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff blog: http://porterbikes.com/ -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary Black Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 3:28 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Low Compression I'm coming in late on this one, but in case the problem hasn't been solved (engine runs rough, carbs must be choked), I had this same problem recently. I had reversed two of the spark plug wires. Easy thing to check. > Since I first started my car a couple of weeks ago I have just not > been able to get to run even close to normal, in fact the only way I > can keep it running is to hold the chokes out most all the way. ............... > > Brad Holden > 67 BJ8 Gary Black, AICP President Hexagon Transportation Consultants, Inc. San Jose | Gilroy | Pleasanton | Marina del Rey | Phoenix 40 S. Market Street, Ste 600 | San Jose, California 95113 ' 408.971.6100 | 7 408.971.6102 | www.hextrans.com P Please consider the environment before printing this material. Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as frogeye at porterscustom.com http://www.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com http://www.team.net/archive From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Thu Dec 10 21:48:45 2009 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:48:45 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] YOM again In-Reply-To: <00dd01ca7a0b$648cf9f0$9001a8c0@home> References: , <00dd01ca7a0b$648cf9f0$9001a8c0@home> Message-ID: Bruce, they were acceptable on California cars prior to 1962 models. The new law lets the newer cars have them until the year they stopped using black plates. The problem is that the plate MUST have the sticker on the plate(at the bottom of the pile) consistant with the model year. So, I need to find a pair or plates that has a white sticker ('64) on the bottom of the pile. I found a guy who will sell me an original 64 sticker, never used but the DMV has seen my plate with out sticker. Maybe it will fulfill the letter of the law and they will have to give it to me. This just sucks! > From: healeybruce at roadrunner.com > To: tahoehealey at hotmail.com; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] YOM again > Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:41:07 -0800 > > Hi Richard. I have 1960 YOM plates on my Healey. It took a bit of doing at > the DMV, but the Healey did NOT have them originally. It is not necessary > to show they were continually on the car. What you say is (or was) correct > for black plates (1962+), but not older. And I think the black plates are > now available as YOM. > > Bruce Steele > 1960 BN7 > Brea, CA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Kahn" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 3:32 PM > Subject: [Healeys] YOM again > > > > Bottom line. California DMV does not want YOM plates on your car and will > > only > > allow them if you can prove they either came off the car originally or you > > can > > prove the first sticker (on the bottom of a fat pile of later stickers) on > > the > > plate had the exact year your car was designed for, regardless of year > > made. > > ie, A 64 model year needs to have a 64 sticker on the plate you submit. > > Numbers and letters embossed on the plate mean nothing. > > If others have had problems with the California DMV regardless of make of > > the > > car, or know any one who is having a problem, please contact me at: > > tahoehealey at hotmail.com. > > I would like to start a letter writing campaign to the assembly and > > senators > > to have the law re-defined to be interpreted as it was meant to be > > interpreted. > > Sorry to bother those who have no interest in this. > > Rich Kahn > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Windows Live Hotmail gives you a free,exclusive gift. > > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/hotmail_bl1/hotmail_bl1.aspx?oci > > d=PID23879::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-ww:WM_IMHM_7:092009 > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > You are subscribed as healeybruce at roadrunner.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail is faster and more secure than ever. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/hotmail_bl1/hotmail_bl1.aspx?oci d=PID23879::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-ww:WM_IMHM_1:092009 From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Thu Dec 10 23:18:48 2009 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:18:48 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] heritage certificate question In-Reply-To: <173126440912101132v9a7fb39v64d996395e6546a@mail.gmail.com> References: <173126440912100837m48c7998fpb29dbd121da97cce@mail.gmail.com><001f01ca79c8$0510fd20$0f32f760$@rr.com> <173126440912101132v9a7fb39v64d996395e6546a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3D26144@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> As chassis number on the right front shock tower was mentioned I am a bit puzzled. As far as I know, Jensen stamped in their production number there, but this is different to the real chassis number or even the real body number. As far as I can say its like this on my original 62 BT7. The number stamped in the shock tower is different to body and chassis number. Please correct me, if I am wrong. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/GERMANY -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von I Erbs Gesendet: Donnerstag, 10. Dezember 2009 20:33 An: BJ8 Healeys Cc: healey help Betreff: Re: [Healeys] heritage certificate question car and engine do not belong together. no questions about that. Norm Nock gave a me a hint to find the chassis number. I will look for it and try to get a reg # from chassis. It would be amusing to pay the money to find out my car is a BN4 I know I saw a list of chassis #s and what series they belong to. When I get the number I'll look it up before I send in the money I have BT7 tags that belongs to a car that left the country, but do not want to use it.I just would like to know what I own :) if its a BN4 with uprated engine and brakes, so be it.... Ira _ From sbyers at ec.rr.com Fri Dec 11 02:00:26 2009 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 04:00:26 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] heritage certificate question In-Reply-To: <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3D26144@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> References: <173126440912100837m48c7998fpb29dbd121da97cce@mail.gmail.com><001f01ca79c8$0510fd20$0f32f760$@rr.com> <173126440912101132v9a7fb39v64d996395e6546a@mail.gmail.com> <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3D26144@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> Message-ID: <000001ca7a40$62202590$266070b0$@rr.com> Hi, Josef - As I mentioned previously, as far as I know the VIN/chassis number was stamped on the shock tower only for BJ8s (and possibly for BJ7s). See the attached photo for an example. There is another number stamped on a different part of the shock tower that was applied by Jensens, and it appears not to relate to either the chassis or body number of a car but was used by Jensens or BMC for their own purposes. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 1:19 AM To: eyera3 at gmail.com; Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] heritage certificate question As chassis number on the right front shock tower was mentioned I am a bit puzzled. As far as I know, Jensen stamped in their production number there, but this is different to the real chassis number or even the real body number. As far as I can say its like this on my original 62 BT7. The number stamped in the shock tower is different to body and chassis number. Please correct me, if I am wrong. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/GERMANY [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 30020 LABELED.JPG] From sbyers at ec.rr.com Fri Dec 11 02:39:48 2009 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 04:39:48 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] heritage certificate question In-Reply-To: <173126440912101401k426f7efahcfca1fc6af208473@mail.gmail.com> References: <173126440912100837m48c7998fpb29dbd121da97cce@mail.gmail.com> <001f01ca79c8$0510fd20$0f32f760$@rr.com> <173126440912101132v9a7fb39v64d996395e6546a@mail.gmail.com> <002601ca79dc$face98d0$f06bca70$@rr.com> <173126440912101329t1dc8d48j19fb675639ee0ec9@mail.gmail.com> <173126440912101401k426f7efahcfca1fc6af208473@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000b01ca7a45$e1a46560$a4ed3020$@rr.com> Ira, you will get the build info on the car that left the factory with that engine, and since you've stated that your engine is not original to your chassis, you won't be getting any information about the chassis you actually have. Since you have no body number and have found no number on the shock tower, there is no way to identify the original number of the chassis (to my knowledge). The most you could do is use the chassis number you would get from BMIHT for the engine. I think your chances are slim of finding out if that chassis number is already being used by another car unless the DMV does a national search on that number before allowing you to register the car. Of course, the BT7-I/-II registries would be a source to check to see if the VIN exists somewhere. I also think you're going to get some static from DMV to changing the number on your title anyway unless they buy the engine number on the certificate as proof of the correct chassis identification. Since engines are obviously replaceable, I would be surprised if the DMV would cave in just on that evidence. The BT7 experts can chime in, but to my knowledge there is no place on the chassis of 3000s where the chassis number was marked except for the shock tower number of later cars. It's just my opinion, but putting a VIN on a car you know not to have been that number originally isn't quite kosher. Some owner of the car in the future is going to get an unpleasant surprise when he finds out. I just experienced that with a new BJ8 owner when I told him his beautiful new car was not the VIN that he thought he had bought. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA From: I Erbs [mailto:eyera3 at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 5:01 PM To: BJ8 Healeys Cc: healey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] heritage certificate question OK, so from looking at the Anderson/moment book # 9267 was built between march and may '60. as stated originally, 1`. I would like ot get the build info on my car, engine number is all I have for a 3000. I do have the BN4# that came with my original car (it has been parted out after being hit) My current body and engine were mated by me over 30 years ago. replacement body came with no markings, so I just moved the BN4 stuff over to it. 2. I would like to find out the actual reg # and register it accordingly. 3. Then I would like to know if anyone has that ID# on their car? If not, then I want to reg it correctly. so could there be an ID # stamped somewhere else on my BT7 body/chassis? thanks for the time on this, Ira From coudesluijs at chello.nl Fri Dec 11 04:44:17 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:44:17 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] heritage certificate question In-Reply-To: <000b01ca7a45$e1a46560$a4ed3020$@rr.com> References: <173126440912100837m48c7998fpb29dbd121da97cce@mail.gmail.com> <001f01ca79c8$0510fd20$0f32f760$@rr.com> <173126440912101132v9a7fb39v64d996395e6546a@mail.gmail.com> <002601ca79dc$face98d0$f06bca70$@rr.com> <173126440912101329t1dc8d48j19fb675639ee0ec9@mail.gmail.com> <173126440912101401k426f7efahcfca1fc6af208473@mail.gmail.com> <000b01ca7a45$e1a46560$a4ed3020$@rr.com> Message-ID: <4B223091.4070103@chello.nl> Often British cars do not carry a stamped chassis number, but only a rivetted chassis plate to the body with the number stamped on it, at least for the UK market. It happened on my Triumph Spitfire I brought back from the UK in the early 70's and it caused problems with the authorities here in the NL where a chassis number stamped in an integral part of the chassis is required by law. In the end I stamped the number (the same as on the chassis plate) myself. I also have a probably illegally imported very early British parts Jensen Healey that was written off in an accident in the NL. To avoid the required transportation back to the UK or paying import duties and taxes here all identity: tags, number plates, chassis plates and the engine were removed so that it could be dumped in the NL and not be traced . This was sufficient as there is no stamped chassis number at all to be found. My other 2 JH's (one UK car and the other USA car) do have stamped chassis numbers. Appearantly the USA situation can be the same as in the UK, no chassis number struck in an integral part of the chassis either. It is known that Jensen was fairly sloppy with their numbers. Numbers and type codes are often overstruck on e.g. Interceptors. Perhaps the number on the suspension tower is some kind of production code which can be deducted to the correct chassis number? Kees Oudesluijs BJ8 Healeys schreef: > Ira, you will get the build info on the car that left the factory with that > engine, and since you've stated that your engine is not original to your > chassis, you won't be getting any information about the chassis you actually > have. Since you have no body number and have found no number on the shock > tower, there is no way to identify the original number of the chassis (to my > knowledge). The most you could do is use the chassis number you would get > from BMIHT for the engine. > I think your chances are slim of finding out if that chassis number is > already being used by another car unless the DMV does a national search on > that number before allowing you to register the car. Of course, the > BT7-I/-II registries would be a source to check to see if the VIN exists > somewhere. > > Steve Byers From ktee20 at gmail.com Fri Dec 11 05:00:52 2009 From: ktee20 at gmail.com (keith taylor) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:00:52 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] club magazine Message-ID: <5a607cf80912110400w2b4de8e7h41f6dd86dbbfa1b1@mail.gmail.com> Received my copy of the Healey Club USA magazine here in OZ VERY NICE took me 3 goes to realise it was a calender in disguise Which leads me to :- Here in OZ we are a day ahead of you, how about a Down Under version showing our correct day & date Which leads me to :- A blond was flying Sydney to Melbourne as the flight settled out she moved to a first class seat a stewardess told her (nicely) to return to economy - - - I AM BLOND & BEAUTIFUL & CAN DO AS I PLEASE The head steward then approached her with the same request - - - I AM BLOND & BEAUTIFUL & WILL SIT WHERE I LIKE the captain then severely made the same request - - - I AM BLOND & BEAUTIFUL & I AM STAYING HERE The co-pilot said let me sort this, my wife is blond & I speak fluent blond Within less than a minute the blond quietly returned to her economy seat the captain very impressed asked what he said I TOLD HER FIRST CLASS DID NOT GO TO MELBOURNE Keith Taylor WAMBERAL OZ BN1 BN2........If I ever finish them 100M.....Getting close From simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk Fri Dec 11 09:10:32 2009 From: simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk (Simon Lachlan) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:10:32 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] (no subject) Message-ID: <000f01ca7a7c$774eb260$65ec1720$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> Rich, Just a follow up re. yr. answer to my wiring loom query. I was unable to source the barbed clip at first but a little digging led me to:- http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.eu/VWP-onlinestore/home/homepage.php thence to "cable fixings" and on to "cable clips". To "chassis clips". I bought some. Price was fine; delivery prompt and the product looks fine. I bought CC30 for both applications (BMC's ADA2657 to clip to the X brace & BMC's 11K9181 to clip the head light wires). I've got their catalogue now. It's got some good stuff and seems cheap. For yr. interest, I've been looking for a "proper" old style thermostat and came up with the units whose pics I have attached. It appears to be identical (Rich 1 & 2) to the original (Rich 3). I've bought a couple. They work (on the bench!), fit into the hole, and measure up against the Smith's original which I extracted. You may be able to dig them up with the AC-Delco reference though the box does say "Made in England" but adds that "AC-Delco Division of General Motors..." Simon [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Rich 3.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Rich 1.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Rich 2.jpg] From austin.healey at gmail.com Fri Dec 11 09:31:44 2009 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 03:31:44 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] For Jor Armor Message-ID: <22661775-297D-4DEC-A540-015AE6CFCEB5@gmail.com> Hey Joe, Please stop yourates kids from drinking in my local pub. Give me a break please mate. I just can't keep up with these young blokes. But on the flip side...... They've told me a few Wollongong stories about you. Everyone else - I'll publish them soon. Once my Solicitor clears them from a personal liability perspective..,, :-) Geez Joe, you can't own a couple of the last ex-works Sent from my iPhone From austin.healey at gmail.com Fri Dec 11 09:53:24 2009 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 03:53:24 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: For Joe Armor References: <22661775-297D-4DEC-A540-015AE6CFCEB5@gmail.com> Message-ID: Geez I hate these iPhone things. I was just trying to draft a funny email to Joe, because I met one of his beat mate's sons tonight. And then my phone sent it... Before I was finished. Anyway Joe. Merry Christmas. And you too Patrick. The point was - these young kids still hold Healeys in absolute awe! Night all. Chris. www.myaustinhealey.com. Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: Chris Dimmock > Date: 12 December 2009 3:31:44 AM AEDT > To: healeys > Subject: For Jor Armor > > Hey Joe, > Please stop yourates kids from drinking in my local pub. > Give me a break please mate. > I just can't keep up with these young blokes. > But on the flip side...... They've told me a few Wollongong stories > about you. > Everyone else - I'll publish them soon. > Once my Solicitor clears them from a personal liability > perspective..,, > :-) > Geez Joe, you can't own a couple of the last ex-works.... From Editorgary at aol.com Fri Dec 11 13:02:14 2009 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:02:14 EST Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers Message-ID: In a message dated 12/11/09 9:40:25 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > As chassis number on the right front shock tower was mentioned I am a bit > puzzled. As far as I know, Jensen stamped in their production number > there, > but this is different to the real chassis number or even the real body > number. > As far as I can say its like this on my original 62 BT7. The number > stamped in > the shock tower is different to body and chassis number. > Please correct me, if I am wrong. > I also believe that David Nock is wrong on this statement. Our statement in The Restoration Guide to the Austin-Healey, which was based on extensive research, is simply "The chassis number appears nowhere else [than on a plate screwed to the firewall] on the six-cylinder roadsters." Gary Anderson From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 11 13:58:23 2009 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:58:23 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <55902798-9994-42EE-B4B4-08D87FB34D3C@sbcglobal.net> There have been many cars that we have replaced shock plates or restored that there has been a number stamped on the top of the tower in front of the shock plate. Sometimes it is right on the weld of the shock plate. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Dec 11, 2009, at 12:02 PM, Editorgary at aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 12/11/09 9:40:25 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net > writes: > > >> As chassis number on the right front shock tower was mentioned I >> am a bit >> puzzled. As far as I know, Jensen stamped in their production number >> there, >> but this is different to the real chassis number or even the real >> body >> number. >> As far as I can say its like this on my original 62 BT7. The number >> stamped in >> the shock tower is different to body and chassis number. >> Please correct me, if I am wrong. >> > > I also believe that David Nock is wrong on this statement. Our > statement in > The Restoration Guide to the Austin-Healey, which was based on > extensive > research, is simply "The chassis number appears nowhere else [than > on a plate > screwed to the firewall] on the six-cylinder roadsters." > Gary Anderson > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From Editorgary at aol.com Fri Dec 11 14:04:11 2009 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:04:11 EST Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers Message-ID: In a message dated 12/11/09 12:58:35 PM, healeydoc at sbcglobal.net writes: > There have been many cars that we have replaced shock plates or restored > that there has been a number stamped on the top of the tower in front of > the shock plate. Sometimes it is right on the weld of the shock plate. > If you say so, David; but there's no number visible on either shock tower on my 1959-built BN7. Is there one on your 100-6? Gary From rnbmail at yahoo.com Fri Dec 11 14:21:36 2009 From: rnbmail at yahoo.com (Robert Blair) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:21:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers - Calif Reg... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <887382.78947.qm@web37906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Listers, My practical experience on a BJ8 reg at DMV: My car was off the road from about 91 [when it failed smog] until 2008 when the resto was finally done. Here is my case history: I wanted vanity plates. I ordered and paid for vanity plates - 65AHLY. But when they were ready, DMV would then not give me my plates without seeing the car in person, so they sat on my plates ad-infinitum - several years. Finally when the resto was finished I showed up at local DMV with the car, their forms filled out to register an old car that had been off the road for almost 20 years. I had the pink in hand signed to me by prior owner. The car plates were of course 'lost' by now during the resto. I drove to the line. The DMV guy asked about the car. I confirmed it had been off the road for almost 20 years. Now it needed no smog [only 73 and later in CA]. He looked around the car. He looked under the hood for the ID. I pointed to the rivited ID plate on the bulkhead. He shined his flashlight and read the numbers to himself. I watched in silence expecting more questions. It matched the ID on the pink and the form I had filled out. He smiled and asked if I had restored the car - I said no. He said fine, and signed his paper and asked me to go back inside the DMV and collect my plates. I did. I left the DMV with the car, my new plates, and a smile. There was zero intent on the part of the DNV inspector to search for a chassis number stamped in the frame. He had probably never seen a Healey before, and was vey happy with the riveted label ID on the bulkhead. Robert N. Blair Yellow 65BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com --- On Fri, 12/11/09, Editorgary at aol.com wrote: > From: Editorgary at aol.com > > writes: > > > > As chassis number on the right front shock tower was > mentioned I am a bit > > puzzled. As far as I know, Jensen stamped in their > production number > > there, > > but this is different to the real chassis number or > even the real body > > number. > > As far as I can say its like this on my original 62 > BT7. The number > > stamped in > > the shock tower is different to body and chassis > number. > > Please correct me, if I am wrong. > > > > I also believe that David Nock is wrong on this statement. > Our statement in > The Restoration Guide to the Austin-Healey, which was based > on extensive > research, is simply "The chassis number appears nowhere > else [than on a plate > screwed to the firewall] on the six-cylinder roadsters." > Gary Anderson From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Fri Dec 11 14:51:54 2009 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:51:54 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3D263A6@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> In that David Nock is right:There is a number stamped on the top of the tower > in front of the right hand front shock plate. Sometimes very hard to find, as covered by paint. But this number is different to the body or chassis number of the car and just a Jensons production number. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/GERMANY -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Editorgary at aol.com Gesendet: Freitag, 11. Dezember 2009 22:04 An: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net; Editorgary at aol.com Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers In a message dated 12/11/09 12:58:35 PM, healeydoc at sbcglobal.net writes: > There have been many cars that we have replaced shock plates or > restored that there has been a number stamped on the top of the tower > in front of the shock plate. Sometimes it is right on the weld of the shock plate. > If you say so, David; but there's no number visible on either shock tower on my 1959-built BN7. Is there one on your 100-6? Gary ___________________________ From mgcharlie at comcast.net Fri Dec 11 15:02:03 2009 From: mgcharlie at comcast.net (Charlie Baldwin) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:02:03 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B22C15B.6040100@comcast.net> Gary/David, My late '61 built BT7 has a number stamped there, but it does not correlate to any number on the ID plate on the firewall. The chassis no., engine number, and the description of the car all match the Heritage certificate that I have, so there is little chance that someone switched the ID plate in its first 11 years before I owned it. Charlie Editorgary at aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 12/11/09 12:58:35 PM, healeydoc at sbcglobal.net writes: > > > >> There have been many cars that we have replaced shock plates or restored >> that there has been a number stamped on the top of the tower in front of >> the shock plate. Sometimes it is right on the weld of the shock plate. >> >> > > If you say so, David; but there's no number visible on either shock tower > on my 1959-built BN7. Is there one on your 100-6? > Gary > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as mgcharlie at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of mgcharlie.vcf] From richchrysler at quickclic.net Fri Dec 11 15:09:48 2009 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:09:48 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers References: <55902798-9994-42EE-B4B4-08D87FB34D3C@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <64E8A04F7D9C434F9C8DB86696EC342E@LIFEBOOK> I have also seen this number that David Nock refers to stamped into the shock tower leading edge, right side. However the number has no relation to the chassis number in any cases I've seen. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Nock" To: Cc: Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers > There have been many cars that we have replaced shock plates or > restored that there has been a number stamped on the top of the tower > in front of the shock plate. Sometimes it is right on the weld of the > shock plate. > > > > > David Nock > British Car Specialists > Stockton Ca 95205 > 209-948-8767 > > www.britishcarspecialists.com > . > . > > On Dec 11, 2009, at 12:02 PM, Editorgary at aol.com wrote: > >> In a message dated 12/11/09 9:40:25 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net >> writes: >> >> >>> As chassis number on the right front shock tower was mentioned I >>> am a bit >>> puzzled. As far as I know, Jensen stamped in their production number >>> there, >>> but this is different to the real chassis number or even the real >>> body >>> number. >>> As far as I can say its like this on my original 62 BT7. The number >>> stamped in >>> the shock tower is different to body and chassis number. >>> Please correct me, if I am wrong. >>> >> >> I also believe that David Nock is wrong on this statement. Our >> statement in >> The Restoration Guide to the Austin-Healey, which was based on >> extensive >> research, is simply "The chassis number appears nowhere else [than >> on a plate >> screwed to the firewall] on the six-cylinder roadsters." >> Gary Anderson >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as healeydoc at sbcglobal.net >> >> http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richchrysler at quickclic.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From sbyers at ec.rr.com Fri Dec 11 15:48:20 2009 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:48:20 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers - Calif Reg... In-Reply-To: <887382.78947.qm@web37906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <887382.78947.qm@web37906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004301ca7ab4$09834420$1c89cc60$@rr.com> Normally (and as the cars left the factory) the VIN and body I.D. plates on a BJ8 are attached with screws, not rivets. I had one BJ8 owner tell me the DMV inspector refused to register his car because the VIN plate was attached with screws instead of with rivets as God intended. DMVs can be really lunkheaded sometimes, but I guess it depends on which state you happen to live in, or even which inspector you happen to draw at a given time. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Blair Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 4:22 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net; Editorgary at aol.com Subject: Re: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers - Calif Reg... Listers, My practical experience on a BJ8 reg at DMV: My car was off the road from about 91 [when it failed smog] until 2008 when the resto was finally done. Here is my case history... I pointed to the rivited ID plate on the bulkhead. He shined his flashlight and read the numbers to himself. I watched in silence expecting more questions. It matched the ID on the pink and the form I had filled out. He smiled and asked if I had restored the car - I said no. He said fine, and signed his paper and asked me to go back inside the DMV and collect my plates. I did. I left the DMV with the car, my new plates, and a smile. There was zero intent on the part of the DNV inspector to search for a chassis number stamped in the frame. He had probably never seen a Healey before, and was very happy with the riveted label From dan at warner-associates.com Fri Dec 11 15:54:34 2009 From: dan at warner-associates.com (Dan Stromquist) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:54:34 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers In-Reply-To: <55902798-9994-42EE-B4B4-08D87FB34D3C@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <96AD2C083C674C8294322FBFE2F419A5@DANSTROM> They put that number on the shock tower for the midgets who would go head over ass trying to see the number in the engine bay. Have a good weekend everyone. Dan -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Nock Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 2:58 PM To: Editorgary at aol.com Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers There have been many cars that we have replaced shock plates or restored that there has been a number stamped on the top of the tower in front of the shock plate. Sometimes it is right on the weld of the shock plate. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Dec 11, 2009, at 12:02 PM, Editorgary at aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 12/11/09 9:40:25 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net > writes: > > >> As chassis number on the right front shock tower was mentioned I >> am a bit >> puzzled. As far as I know, Jensen stamped in their production number >> there, >> but this is different to the real chassis number or even the real >> body >> number. >> As far as I can say its like this on my original 62 BT7. The number >> stamped in >> the shock tower is different to body and chassis number. >> Please correct me, if I am wrong. >> > > I also believe that David Nock is wrong on this statement. Our > statement in > The Restoration Guide to the Austin-Healey, which was based on > extensive > research, is simply "The chassis number appears nowhere else [than > on a plate > screwed to the firewall] on the six-cylinder roadsters." > Gary Anderson > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as dan at warner-associates.com http://www.team.net/archive From grumpyinloomis at ssctv.net Fri Dec 11 15:56:06 2009 From: grumpyinloomis at ssctv.net (Jerry Costanzo) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:56:06 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers - Calif Reg... References: <887382.78947.qm@web37906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9535035B6F514B5F8BED6CEDC63FC7CA@cardinalhealth.net> Brings up another question. You say your vin plate was riveted onto the car. All the pictures I used for my restoration shows phillips type #4 screws. Which is correct? I am sure the DMV would rather see the rivits. Jerry BJ8 From neilberg at telus.net Fri Dec 11 16:03:44 2009 From: neilberg at telus.net (Neil Trelenberg) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:03:44 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers In-Reply-To: <4B22C15B.6040100@comcast.net> References: <4B22C15B.6040100@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5E64A2F2-8C98-4BC3-B775-B37DA0F20558@telus.net> My 62 BT7 Tri Carb is as Charlie's below, number stamped on the shock tower but does not correlate to the ID plate on firewall....Neil On 2009-12-11, at 2:02 PM, Charlie Baldwin wrote: > Gary/David, > My late '61 built BT7 has a number stamped there, but it does not > correlate to any number on the ID plate on the firewall. The chassis > no., engine number, and the description of the car all match the > Heritage certificate that I have, so there is little chance that someone > switched the ID plate in its first 11 years before I owned it. > Charlie > > Editorgary at aol.com wrote: >> In a message dated 12/11/09 12:58:35 PM, healeydoc at sbcglobal.net writes: >> >> >> >>> There have been many cars that we have replaced shock plates or restored >>> that there has been a number stamped on the top of the tower in front of >>> the shock plate. Sometimes it is right on the weld of the shock plate. >>> >>> >> >> If you say so, David; but there's no number visible on either shock tower >> on my 1959-built BN7. Is there one on your 100-6? >> Gary From eyera3 at gmail.com Fri Dec 11 17:55:11 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:55:11 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers In-Reply-To: <5E64A2F2-8C98-4BC3-B775-B37DA0F20558@telus.net> References: <4B22C15B.6040100@comcast.net> <5E64A2F2-8C98-4BC3-B775-B37DA0F20558@telus.net> Message-ID: Nothing stamped on my tower. But it is now nice and clean I Erbs Sent from my iPod On Dec 11, 2009, at 3:03 PM, Neil Trelenberg wrote: > My 62 BT7 Tri Carb is as Charlie's below, number stamped on the > shock tower > but does not correlate to the ID plate on firewall....Neil > > > On 2009-12-11, at 2:02 PM, Charlie Baldwin wrote: > >> Gary/David, >> My late '61 built BT7 has a number stamped there, but it does not >> correlate to any number on the ID plate on the firewall. The chassis >> no., engine number, and the description of the car all match the >> Heritage certificate that I have, so there is little chance that >> someone >> switched the ID plate in its first 11 years before I owned it. >> Charlie >> >> Editorgary at aol.com wrote: >>> In a message dated 12/11/09 12:58:35 PM, healeydoc at sbcglobal.net >>> writes: >>> >>> >>> >>>> There have been many cars that we have replaced shock plates or >>>> restored >>>> that there has been a number stamped on the top of the tower in >>>> front of >>>> the shock plate. Sometimes it is right on the weld of the shock >>>> plate. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> If you say so, David; but there's no number visible on either >>> shock tower >>> on my 1959-built BN7. Is there one on your 100-6? >>> Gary > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From eyera3 at gmail.com Fri Dec 11 17:55:36 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:55:36 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers - Calif Reg... In-Reply-To: <9535035B6F514B5F8BED6CEDC63FC7CA@cardinalhealth.net> References: <887382.78947.qm@web37906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9535035B6F514B5F8BED6CEDC63FC7CA@cardinalhealth.net> Message-ID: Screws I Erbs Sent from my iPod On Dec 11, 2009, at 2:56 PM, "Jerry Costanzo" wrote: > Brings up another question. You say your vin plate was riveted onto > the car. All the pictures I used for my restoration shows phillips > type #4 screws. Which is correct? I am sure the DMV would rather > see the rivits. > > Jerry > BJ8 _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From loftusdesign at cox.net Fri Dec 11 19:00:13 2009 From: loftusdesign at cox.net (John Loftus) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:00:13 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers Message-ID: <4B22F92D.5020609@cox.net> Here's a photo of my BJ7 frame after sandblasting. This photo is looking straight down from standing in front of the car. That's the right shock forward inboard mounting hole. http://www.loftusdesign.net/bodynumber_lores.jpeg Cheers, John From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Fri Dec 11 19:05:16 2009 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 02:05:16 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?o/d_thrust_washers?= Message-ID: <20091212020516.15150.qmail@server278.com> is there data someplace that gives the required thickness of the o/d thrust washers. i assume i need to replace them since if have the o/d apart and it just makes sense, but would be nice to know for sure. hjim From rnbmail at yahoo.com Fri Dec 11 20:54:48 2009 From: rnbmail at yahoo.com (Robert Blair) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:54:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers - Calif Reg...Rivets or Screws In-Reply-To: <004301ca7ab4$09834420$1c89cc60$@rr.com> Message-ID: <22978.97956.qm@web37908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Steve, I said rivets below but I did not check before writing. I have now checked and I have rivets with a dimple in the middle - definitely not Philips or Cross screws. Thery look pretty old. They were not replaced in the recent resto. Robert N. Blair Yellow 65BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com --- On Fri, 12/11/09, BJ8 Healeys wrote: > From: BJ8 Healeys > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers - Calif Reg... > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 2:48 PM > Normally (and as the cars left the > factory) the VIN and body I.D. plates on > a BJ8 are attached with screws, not rivets. I had one > BJ8 owner tell me the > DMV inspector refused to register his car because the VIN > plate was attached > with screws instead of with rivets as God intended. > DMVs can be really > lunkheaded sometimes, but I guess it depends on which state > you happen to > live in, or even which inspector you happen to draw at a > given time. > > Steve Byers > HBJ8L/36666 > BJ8 Registry > Havelock, NC USA > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Robert Blair > Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 4:22 PM > To: healeys at autox.team.net; > Editorgary at aol.com > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers - Calif Reg... > > Listers, My practical experience on a BJ8 reg at DMV: > > My car was off the road from about 91 [when it failed smog] > until 2008 when > the resto was finally done. Here is my case > history... > > I pointed to the rivited ID plate on the bulkhead. He > shined his flashlight > and read the numbers to himself. I watched in silence > expecting more > questions. It matched the ID on the pink and the form > I had filled out. He > smiled and asked if I had restored the car - I said > no. He said fine, and > signed his paper and asked me to go back inside the DMV and > collect my > plates. > I did. > > I left the DMV with the car, my new plates, and a > smile. There was zero > intent on the part of the DNV inspector to search for a > chassis number > stamped in the frame. He had probably never seen a > Healey before, and was > very happy with the riveted label > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as rnbmail at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From rnbmail at yahoo.com Fri Dec 11 20:56:15 2009 From: rnbmail at yahoo.com (Robert Blair) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:56:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers - Calif Reg... In-Reply-To: <9535035B6F514B5F8BED6CEDC63FC7CA@cardinalhealth.net> Message-ID: <378390.34077.qm@web37902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Jerry, As my prior mail, I do in fact have rivets - I checked. Robert N. Blair Yellow 65BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com --- On Fri, 12/11/09, Jerry Costanzo wrote: > From: Jerry Costanzo > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers - Calif Reg... > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 2:56 PM > Brings up another question. You > say your vin plate was riveted onto the car. All the > pictures I used for my restoration shows phillips type #4 > screws. Which is correct? I am sure the DMV > would rather see the rivits. > > Jerry > BJ8 _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as rnbmail at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Sat Dec 12 05:56:39 2009 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 07:56:39 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers References: <4B22F92D.5020609@cox.net> Message-ID: <001001ca7b2a$8c316250$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Nice picture John, but confused.... And sorry to beat this dead horse even deader. Is that "right side" as in passenger side? Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Loftus" To: Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 9:00 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers > Here's a photo of my BJ7 frame after sandblasting. This photo is looking > straight down from standing in front of the car. That's the right shock > forward inboard mounting hole. > > http://www.loftusdesign.net/bodynumber_lores.jpeg > > Cheers, > John > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as lapierrem at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From mkgoodman at att.net Sat Dec 12 07:27:25 2009 From: mkgoodman at att.net (Mark Goodman) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 09:27:25 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Old photos some Healey Content Message-ID: <000101ca7b37$3b1c0430$b1540c90$@net> These are quite interesting shots from the 1960's. Enjoy! http://www.dctra.org/?p=689 From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sat Dec 12 10:29:52 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:29:52 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers In-Reply-To: <001001ca7b2a$8c316250$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> References: <4B22F92D.5020609@cox.net>, <001001ca7b2a$8c316250$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: No, no, no, don't do that!!! Passenger side can be either side depending on country ... "right" side means right hand side of the car as viewed from the driver's seat while facing forward. Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen ) > From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net > > Is that "right side" as in passenger side? > > Mark From cnaarndt at gmail.com Sat Dec 12 11:14:40 2009 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 10:14:40 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers In-Reply-To: <001001ca7b2a$8c316250$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> References: <4B22F92D.5020609@cox.net> <001001ca7b2a$8c316250$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: <751d05480912121014j5ebb382av8cdaf81fa685921f@mail.gmail.com> Mark, All vehicles; car, boats, airplanes, etc... reference left (port) from right (starboard) as you are sitting in that vehicle facing forward. I trust everyone on the list is now sufficiently educated ;-) Cheers, Curt On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 4:56 AM, Mark LaPierre wrote: > Nice picture John, but confused.... And sorry to beat this dead horse > even deader. > > Is that "right side" as in passenger side? > > Mark > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Loftus" > To: > Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 9:00 PM > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers > > > Here's a photo of my BJ7 frame after sandblasting. This photo is looking >> straight down from standing in front of the car. That's the right shock >> forward inboard mounting hole. >> >> http://www.loftusdesign.net/bodynumber_lores.jpeg >> >> Cheers, >> John >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as lapierrem at sbcglobal.net >> >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as cnaarndt at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat Dec 12 11:59:52 2009 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 10:59:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <71450.41703.qm@web51405.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Would that be "near" side or "off" side? he,he,he Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sat, 12/12/09, robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote: From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca Subject: Re: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers To: "Healeys" Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 12:29 PM No, no, no, don't do that!!! Passenger side can be either side depending on country ... "right" side means right hand side of the car as viewed from the driver's seat while facing forward. Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen ) > From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net > > Is that "right side" as in passenger side? > > Mark Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive From waschu2 at charter.net Sat Dec 12 13:07:18 2009 From: waschu2 at charter.net (Wayne Schultz) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:07:18 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Numbers Message-ID: <4B23F7F6.50608@charter.net> Hello, All three of the BJ-8"s that I have owned, had the the chassis number stamped on the R/H shock mount on the small vertical outboard face. If you replaced the shock plate you would remove the number. These numbers are faint and usually under the paint. Earlier cars I have worked on did not have the numbers. Wayne From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sat Dec 12 13:20:05 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 21:20:05 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers In-Reply-To: <71450.41703.qm@web51405.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <71450.41703.qm@web51405.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4B23FAF5.7050508@chello.nl> Of what, RHD or LHD Kees Oudesluijs HealeyRick schreef: > Would that be "near" side or "off" side? he,he,he > > > Rick > > > > From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca > > No, no, no, don't do that!!! > > > > Passenger side can be either side depending on country ... "right" side means > right hand side of the car as viewed from the driver's seat while facing > forward. > > Robert Duquette > Ottawa ON Canada > 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) > 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) > 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen ) From dwflagg at juno.com Sat Dec 12 17:05:13 2009 From: dwflagg at juno.com (dwflagg) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 19:05:13 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 100-4 Carbs Message-ID: <20091212.160525.17206.49332@mailpop03.dca.untd.com> Would anyone have a decent, complete pair of H4 carbs? Please contact me off the list. TIA. Doug ____________________________________________________________ Search Marketing Click for free info on using seach engines to expand your business. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=bFu63acMbM74A-yiXCxWhwAAJ1B-9ttc3k1I_21D8YCzT29EAAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARBwAAAAA= From healeynut at yahoo.com.au Sat Dec 12 17:24:09 2009 From: healeynut at yahoo.com.au (Don Hardie) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:24:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers In-Reply-To: <71450.41703.qm@web51405.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <71450.41703.qm@web51405.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <650097.76253.qm@web113104.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Yes Don BN! OZ ________________________________ From: HealeyRick To: Healeys ; robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sent: Sun, 13 December, 2009 5:59:52 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers Would that be "near" side or "off" side? he,he,he Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sat, 12/12/09, robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote: From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca Subject: Re: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers To: "Healeys" Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 12:29 PM No, no, no, don't do that!!! Passenger side can be either side depending on country ... "right" side means right hand side of the car as viewed from the driver's seat while facing forward. Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen ) > From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net > > Is that "right side" as in passenger side? > > Mark Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as healeynut at yahoo.com.au http://www.team.net/archive _____________________________________________________________________________ _____ Win 1 of 4 Sony home entertainment packs thanks to Yahoo!7. Enter now: http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset/ From 63ahbj7 at comcast.net Sat Dec 12 17:29:56 2009 From: 63ahbj7 at comcast.net (63ahbj7) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:29:56 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers In-Reply-To: <71450.41703.qm@web51405.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <71450.41703.qm@web51405.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4B243584.6010603@comcast.net> << Would that be "near" side or "off" side? >> Neither, Rick !! "Kerb side" !!! LOL Anon From sales at justbrits.com Sat Dec 12 17:32:15 2009 From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ") Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:32:15 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers In-Reply-To: <751d05480912121014j5ebb382av8cdaf81fa685921f@mail.gmail.com> References: <4B22F92D.5020609@cox.net> <001001ca7b2a$8c316250$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> <751d05480912121014j5ebb382av8cdaf81fa685921f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B24360F.3050505@justbrits.com> << I trust everyone on the list is now sufficiently educated >> Nah, Curt. See my previous post !! LOL Still Anon From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Dec 12 18:20:36 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:20:36 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Parts Message-ID: <4B244164.2090604@comcast.net> /NvEtAv: Permission denied From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Dec 12 18:23:02 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:23:02 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Parts (1 of ?) Message-ID: <4B2441F6.8060300@comcast.net> Here's the list of parts from Russ Koch: David R. Koch AUSTIN HEALEY 3000 PARTS 508 Cross Timbers El Paso, TX 79932 drkoch at aol.com (915) 585-8863 (home), (575) 678-8615 (work White Sands Missile Range) OEM 1960 Austin Healey 3000 MK I BT7 four-seater unless otherwise noted. Ship UPS. Detailed photos avail. Item Price condition 1 = Exc., 2 = Good, 3 = Fair, 4= poor Dash (aluminum) $120 2 Have two of them. Grab Handle (Chrome) 22 2      Grab Handle Estucheon 22 2 Matching plate for grab handle Packing Block, Wood 22 2 Secures grab handle and plate to dash Door Handle (inside) 20 2 Fits BJ8 only also used on conv. top Chrome Surround Ring for Dash 21 2 Oval chrome ring Radiator Horizontal Grill 95 3 Minor pitting on chrome Top and bottom grill lip 90 2 Minor scratches Front Fender (L&R) 470 ea. 2 Repaired, inc.bead,sprs,nts&bts,vintgemirs Front Fender Chrome Spears 28 ea. 2 Minor scratches, no rust, dents etc. Bonnet (hood) grill and lip 55 (set) 2 Two piece set for MK II or III (not MK I) OD Switch Escutcheon (dash) 19 2 Says overdrive on it Dummy Heater Control Panel 45 2 For cars without heaters Rare. Door Handle 18 2 Associated parts available Door Latch 25 2 Have four of them Remote Control (door lever) 360 2 Rare Tenax Fasteners 5 2 Have about 15 of them in varied condition Steering column and steering gear box 420 2 Have two, one has little wear, other (2) cond Starter 91 2 SN 25578A Date stamp May1963 (MK III) Left Front Suspension 220 2 Assembly in good condition, hub splines worn Distance Piece (steering col.) 43 2 Triangular shp alum. pt conn steering colum blts. Splined Wheel Hub, RH 33 2 Left hand threads, Have 2. Mowog 7236 Valve Cover 49 2 OEM, fits 1958-67, have two of them Wire Wheels 45 2 60 spoke Dunlop originals, have three Gas Tanks 70 2-3 Have 2, inc. filler pipe, sending unit -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Dec 12 18:23:46 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:23:46 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Parts (2 of ?) Message-ID: <4B244222.8030900@comcast.net> Bonnet (hood) 190 2 No rust, have two of them Master Cylinders, brake and clutch 28 2 Have two sets Brake line splitter 20 2 Have two of them (part dist. brk fluid to 4 wheels) Aluminum door surround rail (4 seater) 195 2 Complt for two cars (around top of cockpit) Front and rear shrouds 760 - 400 ea. 2 Pick up in El Paso Doors (L&R) 480 ea. 2 Lower section repaired 1972, still look OK. Wiper motor assembly 160 2 Inc. wheel box, chrome bezel&nut, wiper arm Rear license tail light 27 2 OEM 1955-60. No rust, dents etc. Distributor 88 2 Vac. ad wks, use as-is or rebuild, inc speedo drv Headlight dip switch 28 2 Fits 1955-67 Starter Solinoid 27 2 MK II, but fits 1955-67 Coil 45 2 Tested, minor dents in aluminum case Voltage regulator 22 3 No plastic cover Horns (matched set OEM for MK II&III) 65 (set) 2 1961 MK II not same as MK I, but fit 55-67 Wire wheel (60 Spoke) 45 ea. 2 Have two 15X4.5 Have five 48 spoke,1960 OEM Headlight receptacle assem. 68 ea. 2 Have three sets compl., exc. only one chrome ring Fresh Air Vent 44 2 Have two, inc. cable to dash, screen cover Rear brake drum (ea.) 29 2 Have four of them Rear Brake adjustors and pistons 200 2 Have two sets Brake reservoir 48 2 Have three of them Master Cylinder (brake) 35 2 have two sets Master Cylinder (clutch) 35 2 have two sets Clutch Slave Cylinder 35 2 Have one Oil filter 33 2 Original 1960 Purolater design Heat Shield (carb) (MKI) 29 2 Fits HD6 two carb and others, for log manif. Rear shock Absorbers 90 pr. 2 Complete assembly inc. rear axle fittings Exhaust Manifolds (HD6 carbs&log man.) 65 (set) 2 Good cond. except several studs broken Rear Axle 160 2 Brake drums, adjusters, etc. avail. Very heavy. -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Dec 12 18:24:14 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:24:14 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Parts (3 of 3) Message-ID: <4B24423E.7080204@comcast.net> -TRANSMISSION PARTS (MK I) - - 4 sp. side shift, MK I, fit 1955-62 trans First&Sec. speed. Fork&Rod 120 1 little or no wear evident 3rd&4th sp. fork&rod 120 1   Reverse fork&rod 120 1   Laygear (planetary) inc. layshaft and spacer 195 2 Worn reverse gear, others minor wear Control lever and shaft 120 2 Minor wear on selector bearing surface First motion shaft&gears 175 2 no wear Shift lever (long throw, MK I bent-arm type)120 2 Chrome flaked on undrside few places Tran. side cover 62 2 No rust, dents etc. Tran. Case 89 2 No rust, dents etc. -CLUTCH HOUSING 260 1 No corrosion ot dents, inc. fork ass. -OVERDRIVE complete 1961 top shift 590 1 Only 40 K mi. and litt wr SN 22/3087/000680 -DISASSEMBLED OVERDRIVE (MK I) ask prices 1-4 Most parts available. Most OD parts fit 1955-67 Overdrive Cut Out Switch 35 2 Goes on firewall Overdrive Relay 42 2 Goes on firewall Side shift OD adapter plate 65 1 Adapts LaycDNrm OD to fit 1955-62 sd shft trn. -ENGINE PARTS ask prices 1-4 Three engines, two partially disassembled Heater Control Tap (Valve) 55 1 Have 2,demand item as brass lever easily broken Engine Drain Tap (Valve) 48 1 Same as above Side Cover (front) (3 avail.) 65 2 Remaining two side covers also avail. $28 ea. Flywheel 58 2 Gears on rim look good Rocker Arm Assembly 80 2-3 Moderate wear evident Blocks (3 avail.) 250 2-3 Mod. wear on two blks, 3rd blk-cylinder wal scor Camshaft 85 2-3 Mod wear Crankshaft (3 avail.) 290 2-3 Mod wear Cylinder Heads (2 avail.) 130 2-3 One OK, valves burned on other -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Dec 12 18:27:52 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:27:52 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Addendum Message-ID: <4B244318.8020209@comcast.net> /Ddl8ZU: Permission denied From tomfelts at windstream.net Sat Dec 12 18:34:15 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 19:34:15 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers In-Reply-To: <4B243584.6010603@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20091212193415.NR7I6.21565.root@ispmxfep12-z01> The "kerb" side can be either side----------------LOL--VBG---VVBG ---- 63ahbj7 <63ahbj7 at comcast.net> wrote: ============= << Would that be "near" side or "off" side? >> Neither, Rick !! "Kerb side" !!! LOL Anon Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net http://www.team.net/archive From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Dec 12 19:30:55 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:30:55 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Parts (second attempt) Message-ID: <4B2451DF.9030000@comcast.net> Folks, A while back I forwarded some info to the List from a gentleman in Texas who had a bunch of Healey parts for sale. He was swamped with inquiries but was grateful because he has two kids that just graduated from college--one is a cancer researcher who already has made a significant find--and has big loans to pay off. Anyway, he found more parts. He sent me photos of a shroud, two front and one rear wing, a starter and a generator, a complete steering shaft, windshield wipers, a couple of wire wheels, a pair of original horns and many other parts, all from a MkI and MkII BT7. Since we can't send attachments you'll need to contact him directly (I'll try to send his list in subsequent emails): David R. Koch 508 Cross Timbers Ct. El Paso, TX 79932 (915) 585-8863 drkoch at aol.com He goes by 'Russ.' -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Dec 12 19:32:52 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:32:52 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Addendum try 2 Message-ID: <4B245254.9080802@comcast.net> Seems like the mail server doesn't like any HTML or rich text. More info on the cars, from Russ: Both cars are BT7,s. One, a MKI, came off the assembly line in Dec. '60. The other, a very early top shift MK II came off the assembly line 11/61. Not mentioned in the parts list, but both frames (rusted badly under the seats but progressively less as you go forward past the firewall) but otherwise OK are also for sale. Anyone willing to come down here and pick them up can have them both for $650.oo. As-is. Both are pretty well stripped down, but one still has the rear springs and differential, shocks etc., while the other still has the steering column and the left front suspension on it. Would really like to get both frames out of my garage. I know the history of the MKI quite well as I've owned it since 1967. Bought it on Guam while in the Air Force, cost my buddy and me 500 bucks. -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From 63ahbj7 at comcast.net Sat Dec 12 21:11:04 2009 From: 63ahbj7 at comcast.net (63ahbj7) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:11:04 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Addendum try 2 In-Reply-To: <4B245254.9080802@comcast.net> References: <4B245254.9080802@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4B246958.2090908@comcast.net> <> YEP, Bob !! " plain " text only. Me From healeydoc at verizon.net Sat Dec 12 22:13:02 2009 From: healeydoc at verizon.net (healeydoc at verizon.net) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 21:13:02 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 100-4 Carbs Message-ID: Yes we have some good used carbs David Nock dwflagg wrote: >Would anyone have a decent, complete pair of H4 carbs? Please contact me >off the list. TIA. > >Doug >____________________________________________________________ >Search Marketing >Click for free info on using seach engines to expand your business. >http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=bFu63acMbM74A-yiXCxWhwAAJ1B-9ttc3k1I_21D8YCzT29EAAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARBwAAAAA= >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >Healeys at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > >You are subscribed as healeydoc at verizon.net > >http://www.team.net/archive From kentmclean at comcast.net Sun Dec 13 06:56:32 2009 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 08:56:32 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B24F290.5000202@comcast.net> 63ahbj7 wrote: << Would that be "near" side or "off" side? >> > > Neither, Rick !! > "Kerb side" !!! Shouldn't that be Kerb side or Curb side? -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sun Dec 13 08:08:02 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 16:08:02 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers In-Reply-To: <4B24F290.5000202@comcast.net> References: <4B24F290.5000202@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4B250352.5010002@chello.nl> Is that left or right? Kees Oudesluijs Kent McLean schreef: > 63ahbj7 wrote: > << Would that be "near" side or "off" side? >> > > > > Neither, Rick !! > > "Kerb side" !!! > > Shouldn't that be Kerb side or Curb side? From eyera3 at gmail.com Sun Dec 13 09:32:11 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 08:32:11 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers In-Reply-To: <4B250352.5010002@chello.nl> References: <4B24F290.5000202@comcast.net> <4B250352.5010002@chello.nl> Message-ID: <9F98D6FE-3B20-46AF-A314-1582B699DE0F@gmail.com> Port or starboard? I Erbs Sent from my iPod On Dec 13, 2009, at 7:08 AM, Oudesluys wrote: > Is that left or right? > Kees Oudesluijs > > Kent McLean schreef: >> 63ahbj7 wrote: >> << Would that be "near" side or "off" side? >> >> > >> > Neither, Rick !! >> > "Kerb side" !!! >> >> Shouldn't that be Kerb side or Curb side? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sun Dec 13 09:45:41 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 17:45:41 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers In-Reply-To: <9F98D6FE-3B20-46AF-A314-1582B699DE0F@gmail.com> References: <4B24F290.5000202@comcast.net> <4B250352.5010002@chello.nl> <9F98D6FE-3B20-46AF-A314-1582B699DE0F@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B251A35.6030402@chello.nl> a.i. Kees Oudesluijs > Port or starboard? > > I Erbs > >> Is that left or right? >> Kees Oudesluijs >> >> >>> >>> << Would that be "near" side or "off" side? >> >>> > >>> > Neither, Rick !! >>> > "Kerb side" !!! >>> >>> Shouldn't that be Kerb side or Curb side? From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sun Dec 13 11:04:58 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 18:04:58 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Addendum try 2 In-Reply-To: <4B246958.2090908@comcast.net> References: <4B245254.9080802@comcast.net>,<4B246958.2090908@comcast.net> Message-ID: The part that I don't get, is that even though you used plain text, it is still from "healey-bounces" on behalf of you. I use rich text usually, because it doesn't seem to make a difference. Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen ) > Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:11:04 -0600 > From: 63ahbj7 at comcast.net > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Addendum try 2 > > <> > > YEP, Bob !! > > " plain " text only. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sun Dec 13 11:08:08 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 18:08:08 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers In-Reply-To: <20091212193415.NR7I6.21565.root@ispmxfep12-z01> References: <4B243584.6010603@comcast.net>, <20091212193415.NR7I6.21565.root@ispmxfep12-z01> Message-ID: I'm not sure about that! I think that the kerb side might be on the other side of the pond and the curb side is on this side of it. ;) Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada ---------------------------------------- > Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 19:34:15 -0600 > From: tomfelts at windstream.net > > The "kerb" side can be either side----------------LOL--VBG---VVBG > > ---- 63ahbj7 <63ahbj7 at comcast.net> wrote: > > ============= > << Would that be "near" side or "off" side?>> > > Neither, Rick !! > > "Kerb side" !!! > > LOL From rnbmail at yahoo.com Sun Dec 13 12:29:42 2009 From: rnbmail at yahoo.com (Robert Blair) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 11:29:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers In-Reply-To: <71450.41703.qm@web51405.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <839163.76355.qm@web37904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Or, is it 'off side' or 'leg side'? :-) Robert N. Blair Yellow 65BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com --- On Sat, 12/12/09, HealeyRick wrote: > From: HealeyRick > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers > To: "Healeys" , robertduquette at sympatico.ca > Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 10:59 AM > Would that be "near" side or "off" > side? he,he,he > > > > > > Rick > > > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > > --- On Sat, 12/12/09, robertduquette at sympatico.ca > > wrote: > > From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers > To: "Healeys" > Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 12:29 PM > > No, no, no, don't do that!!! > > > > Passenger side can be either side depending on country ... > "right" side means > right hand side of the car as viewed from the driver's seat > while facing > forward. > > Robert Duquette > Ottawa ON Canada > 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) > 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) > 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen ) > > > From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net > > > > Is that "right side" as in passenger side? > > > > Mark > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as rnbmail at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From richchrysler at quickclic.net Sun Dec 13 13:03:16 2009 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 15:03:16 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers References: <839163.76355.qm@web37904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0DBDDCB274DB476283B4D67E8EEE380B@LIFEBOOK> Just stop it!!!!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Blair" To: "Healeys" ; ; "HealeyRick" Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers > Or, is it 'off side' or 'leg side'? > > :-) > > Robert N. Blair Yellow 65BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com > > > > > --- On Sat, 12/12/09, HealeyRick wrote: > >> From: HealeyRick >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers >> To: "Healeys" , robertduquette at sympatico.ca >> Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 10:59 AM >> Would that be "near" side or "off" >> side? he,he,he >> >> >> >> >> >> Rick >> >> >> Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo >> >> --- On Sat, 12/12/09, robertduquette at sympatico.ca >> >> wrote: >> >> From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca >> >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers >> To: "Healeys" >> Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 12:29 PM >> >> No, no, no, don't do that!!! >> >> >> >> Passenger side can be either side depending on country ... >> "right" side means >> right hand side of the car as viewed from the driver's seat >> while facing >> forward. >> >> Robert Duquette >> Ottawa ON Canada >> 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) >> 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) >> 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen ) >> >> > From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net >> > >> > Is that "right side" as in passenger side? >> > >> > Mark >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as rnbmail at yahoo.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richchrysler at quickclic.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From sales at justbrits.com Sun Dec 13 14:36:52 2009 From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ") Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 15:36:52 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Addendum try 2 In-Reply-To: References: <4B245254.9080802@comcast.net>,<4B246958.2090908@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4B255E74.2040505@justbrits.com> << The part that I don't get, is that even though you used plain text, it is still from "healey-bounces" on behalf of you. >> That is just the method that MM uses, RD. Look at the "source" for a 9issa Post !! Same thing. Or Spridgets at autox.team.net. It CAN be altered but with a LOT [of PITA] WORK in the MM code. Like I said, PITA ! From sales at justbrits.com Sun Dec 13 14:38:52 2009 From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ") Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 15:38:52 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers In-Reply-To: <4B24F290.5000202@comcast.net> References: <4B24F290.5000202@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4B255EEC.9070107@justbrits.com> << Shouldn't that be Kerb side or Curb side? >> That would be a 'Pond' issue, Kent !!! LOL That said, I AM with Rich C. = "STOP IT" !! From pennell at cox.net Sun Dec 13 15:00:00 2009 From: pennell at cox.net (pennell at cox.net) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 17:00:00 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Power supplies-non Healey Message-ID: <20091213170000.9L8AT.171238.imail@eastrmwml46> Listers, I have been moving around several AC to DC power supplies for a long time now. I can no longer identify what they go to and wish to get rid of them. Is there any any useful/environmentally friendly place they can go? I hate to just send them to a landfill if they can be put to use. Keith Pennell From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Dec 13 15:57:56 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 14:57:56 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Power supplies-non Healey In-Reply-To: <20091213170000.9L8AT.171238.imail@eastrmwml46> References: <20091213170000.9L8AT.171238.imail@eastrmwml46> Message-ID: <4B257174.4040300@comcast.net> Some recyclers will take them. Have a feeling they end up in a river in China anyway, but at least you tried. bs pennell at cox.net wrote: > Listers, > > I have been moving around several AC to DC power supplies for a long time now. I can no longer identify what they go to and wish to get rid of them. Is there any any useful/environmentally friendly place they can go? I hate to just send them to a landfill if they can be put to use. > > Keith Pennell > _______________________________________________ > ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From ahbn6 at verizon.net Sun Dec 13 16:02:13 2009 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 18:02:13 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Power supplies-non Healey In-Reply-To: <20091213170000.9L8AT.171238.imail@eastrmwml46> References: <20091213170000.9L8AT.171238.imail@eastrmwml46> Message-ID: <02f901ca7c48$4f51a240$edf4e6c0$@net> Are these the ones that are used for battery chargers, etc. If so, most communities have a recycling program that usually is listed in the telephone book. As a rule, whenever I purchase an item that has one of these converters, I use my Dymo label maker and paste a label on it so that I know what it is for when I need to use it 6 months or so later. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of pennell at cox.net Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 5:00 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Power supplies-non Healey Listers, I have been moving around several AC to DC power supplies for a long time now. I can no longer identify what they go to and wish to get rid of them. Is there any any useful/environmentally friendly place they can go? I hate to just send them to a landfill if they can be put to use. Keith Pennell _______________________________________________ From linsley46 at gmail.com Sun Dec 13 17:45:32 2009 From: linsley46 at gmail.com (John McElrath) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 20:45:32 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Information needed on BN7 MkII Message-ID: I am restoring a very early BN7 MK II ( maybe the 3rd/4th one made) and I decided to try to make this a "gold" car - I probably need to have my head examined for starting this but I want to finish it as close as possible to the way it came from the factory. I have gotten lots of information from Rich Chrysler and others but have been unsuccessful in getting in any information from other members of the concours committee. So I thought I would try a broadcast to the group. I would appreciate hearing from owners of BN7 MKIIs who have pictures of gold cars and would be willing to share information that will help me get this car right. I would certainly like to hear from anyone that can help me make sure what I am doing is as correct as possible - understanding that is often hard to define - especially with these "transition" cars. Please contact me directly if you are interested in sharing you knowledge and experience with these unique cars. Thanks, John From eyera3 at gmail.com Sun Dec 13 18:01:23 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 17:01:23 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Power supplies-non Healey Message-ID: <4b258e23.9613f30a.0835.ffff89f6@mx.google.com> Try a local high school science class . Ifthey work sent from my cellular PDA I Erbs -----Original Message----- From: Bob Spidell Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 2:57 PM To: pennell at cox.net Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Power supplies-non Healey Some recyclers will take them. Have a feeling they end up in a river in China anyway, but at least you tried. bs pennell at cox.net wrote: > Listers, > > I have been moving around several AC to DC power supplies for a long time now. I can no longer identify what they go to and wish to get rid of them. Is there any any useful/environmentally friendly place they can go? I hate to just send them to a landfill if they can be put to use. > > Keith Pennell > _______________________________________________ > ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com http://www.team.net/archive From Wilkmanracing at aol.com Sun Dec 13 18:58:33 2009 From: Wilkmanracing at aol.com (Wilkmanracing at aol.com) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 20:58:33 EST Subject: [Healeys] Healey Restoration Shop in Southern California Message-ID: Does anyone have a recommendation for a Healey restoration shop in Southern California? I'm especially concerned that the shop can get the car's aluminum panels back to factory contours. Bill Wilkman BT7 From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Dec 13 19:30:01 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 18:30:01 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Restoration Shop in Southern California In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B25A329.1090706@comcast.net> Not sure if it qualifies as 'southern California,' but you could do worse than: http://www.absolutelybritish.org/ bs Wilkmanracing at aol.com wrote: > Does anyone have a recommendation for a Healey restoration shop in Southern > California? I'm especially concerned that the shop can get the car's > aluminum panels back to factory contours. > > Bill Wilkman > BT7 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as bspidell at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From healey.nut at gmail.com Sun Dec 13 21:37:11 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:37:11 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Restoration Shop in Southern California In-Reply-To: <4B25A329.1090706@comcast.net> References: <4B25A329.1090706@comcast.net> Message-ID: Them thar's sum fancy pants fuel injectars Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Bob Spidell wrote: > Not sure if it qualifies as 'southern California,' but you could do worse > than: > > http://www.absolutelybritish.org/ > > > bs > > > > Wilkmanracing at aol.com wrote: > >> Does anyone have a recommendation for a Healey restoration shop in >> Southern California? I'm especially concerned that the shop can get the >> car's aluminum panels back to factory contours. Bill Wilkman >> BT7 From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Mon Dec 14 05:16:51 2009 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 07:16:51 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Information needed on BN7 MkII References: Message-ID: <000c01ca7cb7$51c7fa00$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> The Anderson/ Moment Restoration book would be a must have for you. I hope you can bring yourself to making this a nice driver too rather than just a piece of eye candy. Why stress yourself out over all the little details if you can't enjoy it at the end of the project. Sorry to say that there are many mods that make our cars much more enjoyable to drive than what the factory offered. But if your going for a top dollar resale baby then originality is important to a lot of auction jockies. Hope to see it on the road some day under its own power. Good Luck, Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "John McElrath" To: Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 7:45 PM Subject: [Healeys] Information needed on BN7 MkII >I am restoring a very early BN7 MK II ( maybe the 3rd/4th one made) and I > decided to try to make this a "gold" car - I probably need to have my > head > examined for starting this but I want to finish it as close as possible to > the way it came from the factory. I have gotten lots of information from > Rich Chrysler and others but have been unsuccessful in getting in any > information from other members of the concours committee. So I thought I > would try a broadcast to the group. > > I would appreciate hearing from owners of BN7 MKIIs who have pictures of > gold cars and would be willing to share information that will help me get > this car right. I would certainly like to hear from anyone that can help > me > make sure what I am doing is as correct as possible - understanding that > is > often hard to define - especially with these "transition" cars. Please > contact me directly if you are interested in sharing you knowledge and > experience with these unique cars. > > Thanks, > John > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as lapierrem at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Mon Dec 14 09:57:54 2009 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 08:57:54 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers In-Reply-To: <839163.76355.qm@web37904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <839163.76355.qm@web37904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: No you all have it wrong its the HOT side and not so HOT side On Dec 13, 2009, at 11:29 AM, Robert Blair wrote: > Or, is it 'off side' or 'leg side'? > > :-) > > Robert N. Blair Yellow 65BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com > > > > > --- On Sat, 12/12/09, HealeyRick wrote: > >> From: HealeyRick >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers >> To: "Healeys" , robertduquette at sympatico.ca >> Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 10:59 AM >> Would that be "near" side or "off" >> side? he,he,he >> >> >> >> >> >> Rick >> >> >> Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo >> >> --- On Sat, 12/12/09, robertduquette at sympatico.ca >> >> wrote: >> >> From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca >> >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers >> To: "Healeys" >> Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 12:29 PM >> >> No, no, no, don't do that!!! >> >> >> >> Passenger side can be either side depending on country ... >> "right" side means >> right hand side of the car as viewed from the driver's seat >> while facing >> forward. >> >> Robert Duquette >> Ottawa ON Canada >> 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) >> 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) >> 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen ) >> >>> From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net >>> >>> Is that "right side" as in passenger side? >>> >>> Mark >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as rnbmail at yahoo.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From steveg at abrazosdata.com Mon Dec 14 10:04:02 2009 From: steveg at abrazosdata.com (Steve Gerow) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:04:02 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] So Cal Healey restorers Message-ID: <000501ca7cdf$725a6b40$570f41c0$@com> Bill Wilkman wrote: >>Does anyone have a recommendation for a Healey restoration shop in Southern >>California? I'm especially concerned that the shop can get the car's >>aluminum panels back to factory contours. Two top restorers in So Cal: Kurt Tanner in Ontario and Tom Rocke at Healey Lane in Norco. Absolutely British (Eric Grunden) is in Santa Maria. Don't have contact info - Google ought to work. -- Steve Gerow Pasadena, CA, USA BN6 From healeyron at yahoo.com Mon Dec 14 10:23:43 2009 From: healeyron at yahoo.com (Ron Mitchell) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:23:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Information needed on BN7 MkII Message-ID: <878976.27114.qm@web32908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> If you're going for gold I would suggest buying the Concours Guidlines from: Mike Osipik 39 E. 556h Street Kansas, City MO 64113-1265 (816) 333-0526 E-mail: mikeosipic at earthlink.ner Mike distributes the Concours Standard for the Concours Committee. Roger Moment is the Chairman, Technical Standards: (Big Healeys). Rmoment at aol.com They are the people that can best advise you on the proper path to the Gold Level Rating for your car. I have judged a few BN7 MkII Tricarbs and own one myself. The Guidlines are published by the Concours Committee and are the standards that are used to judge your car. It contains the Inspection Sheets that are used to Judge your car. Just take the inspections sheets and go thru them Item by Item and make sure your car is up to those standards. This will get you closer to getting a Gold Level Rating than any restoration book. Restoration books are also helpful but are not the complete answer. Talk to Mike to make sure you get the latest Standards. They do change slightly from year to year as the judges encounter items that appear on original cars that might differ slightly from the Standards. If you follow the guidelines faithfully you can give yourself a good chance of a Gold Level Rating. I would suggest attending an event that provides Concours Judgeing and watch a car being Judged. Take lots of Pictures and talk to people that have had their cars judged. It is very time consuming and expensive so you want to do it right the first time. I've seen cars that have been restored by supposed experts that don't receive high points because they didn't pay attention to the published Standards. If you don't do the restoration yourself make sure that who ever does it checks off each item on the inspection sheet to your approval. Hope this helps Ron From ahbn6 at verizon.net Mon Dec 14 10:30:36 2009 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:30:36 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Information needed on BN7 MkII In-Reply-To: <000c01ca7cb7$51c7fa00$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> References: <000c01ca7cb7$51c7fa00$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: <006d01ca7ce3$268ff730$73afe590$@net> You can also get a copy of the Concourse guidelines at: http://www.healeyclub.org/concours.aspx Photos of restorations in progress are also on my site. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark LaPierre Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 7:17 AM To: John McElrath; Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Information needed on BN7 MkII The Anderson/ Moment Restoration book would be a must have for you. I hope you can bring yourself to making this a nice driver too rather than just a piece of eye candy. Why stress yourself out over all the little details if you can't enjoy it at the end of the project. Sorry to say that there are many mods that make our cars much more enjoyable to drive than what the factory offered. But if your going for a top dollar resale baby then originality is important to a lot of auction jockies. Hope to see it on the road some day under its own power. Good Luck, Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "John McElrath" To: Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 7:45 PM Subject: [Healeys] Information needed on BN7 MkII >I am restoring a very early BN7 MK II ( maybe the 3rd/4th one made) and I > decided to try to make this a "gold" car - I probably need to have my > head > examined for starting this but I want to finish it as close as possible to > the way it came from the factory. I have gotten lots of information from > Rich Chrysler and others but have been unsuccessful in getting in any > information from other members of the concours committee. So I thought I > would try a broadcast to the group. > > I would appreciate hearing from owners of BN7 MKIIs who have pictures of > gold cars and would be willing to share information that will help me get > this car right. I would certainly like to hear from anyone that can help > me > make sure what I am doing is as correct as possible - understanding that > is > often hard to define - especially with these "transition" cars. Please > contact me directly if you are interested in sharing you knowledge and > experience with these unique cars. From buhler at memphisassociates.com Mon Dec 14 10:56:13 2009 From: buhler at memphisassociates.com (Jon Buhler) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:56:13 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Trunk Restoration Message-ID: My next project is to restore the trunk area on my BJ8. Would any of you have photos of this process on your Healey? Thanks for your help. Jon From ah3000me at gmail.com Mon Dec 14 11:27:17 2009 From: ah3000me at gmail.com (Tom) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:27:17 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Power supplies-non Healey In-Reply-To: <20091213170000.9L8AT.171238.imail@eastrmwml46> References: <20091213170000.9L8AT.171238.imail@eastrmwml46> Message-ID: Try selling them on Craigslist or Ebay cheaply. Another good sink is a local HAM radio club. Someone is always looking for parts, and these guys know what to do and how to do it safely. - Tom From jhomonek at mindspring.com Mon Dec 14 13:10:32 2009 From: jhomonek at mindspring.com (John H) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 15:10:32 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [Healeys] Information needed on BN7 MkII Message-ID: <23789767.1260821432898.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> >John, > >I agree with the others on doing your research. Get the Anderson Moment restoration book and get the latest concours guidelines. > >You have to ask yourself why do you want a gold level concours Healey. What is your ultimate goal here? Earning gold recognition for a restoration is a great accomplishment in itself. It costs much more time and money for the restoration because of sourcing the correct everything. > >As a BN7 Concours judge at Conclave 2007 in Vermont, I (and our team) examined everything and every detail. it took about 3 hours. We found some infractions here and there but the big one on this BN7 was loose spokes. That was the biggest ding. I think they were 1 point each. > >However, as stated by others already, there are many more enhancements to driveability and comfort available now too. > >My BN7, which won Best of Show, at Conclave 2007 in Vermont, is close but has many enhancements. I followed the British Motor Heritage Certificate build specs exactly. She now has a 3.54 rearend, 28% OD, XM radio, stainless steel heat shield over muffler, ss exhaust, flex fan, chrome / ss 72 spoke wheels, 195/70/15 radials, grade 8 bolts on suspension and motor mounts, stainless screws and bolts in places, base coat/clear coat paint, Colorado Red paint below swag line, polished cockpit trim, non concours Heritage carpet, non standard insulation, polished dashpots, K&N filters, spin on oil filter, Colorado Red factory hardtop and other assorted fasteners that are not correct. > >See the restoration photos on John Sims site (thanks John for your informative site). Mine was restored by me and others in the Atlanta AHCA in just 20 months. The intent was an outstanding BN7 with some enhancements for comfort and driveability. The day after winning Best of Show in Vermont, I was in the Gymkhana much to the dismay of others at the event. (I won 1st place in my gymkhana class too) > >My point is: I think they are made to be driven and enjoyed. > >Decide what you want and go for it. > >This is a great resource for advice. Use your local club and its members. There is a wealth of knowledge at your disposal. You are on the right track in asking questions now. > >You can contact me off list for more details. > >Cheers, > >John Homonek >1959 BN7 - 1974 Jensen Healey From eyera3 at gmail.com Mon Dec 14 13:13:26 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:13:26 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] looking for Russ Thompson Message-ID: <173126440912141213o2a3ccd25n76533030170f65ee@mail.gmail.com> anyone have contact info for russ thompson from austin healey enterprises in reseda,ca? Just wondering how he was doing. I used to work for him and he helped me build my car. please reply off list eyera3 at gmail.com -- I Erbs Portland, OR. From sales at justbrits.com Mon Dec 14 16:20:18 2009 From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ") Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:20:18 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Information needed on BN7 MkII In-Reply-To: <23789767.1260821432898.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <23789767.1260821432898.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4B26C832.4060401@justbrits.com> John H, I am ASHAMED of you. The ONLY thing in your post that has a iota of sense is: My point is: I think they are made to be driven and enjoyed. So you ARE saying that DMH made & sold cars BUT NOT to be 'driven' NOR 'enjoyed' ?!?!? YOU have been around long enough that you should have met Rich Chrysler by now, I hope ?? What is the tacit 'motto' of the Concours Committee?? I am sorry but as one of the earliest backers of Rich and Gary in forming The Concours Committee and of accepting their Guidelines I am MORE then aware that their ONLY goal was to restore cars back to "as they were built" AND be DRIVEN AND ENJOYED !! Folks that take the view that a "Level" car is to be put up in a museum or to become a Trailer Queen have a ZERO concept of Concours. I have no idea of how many "Level" cars I have seen Rich drive THOUSANDS of miles to attend events. Did you go to Conclave '88 in Shangri-la, OK where Rich had an example ?? That he DROVE from Ontario, CANADA !!!! Oh I forgot, Rich doesn't DRIVE nor ENJOY "Level" restored Healeys. My bad. Ed '63 AH BJ 7 (Hortense THE Healey wearing STANDARD [NOT hiding behind antiques ones] ILL plates AH BJ 7 ) Founding Member & Delegate, ILLINI Chapter - AHCA (35+ years). Member & Tech Contact, AHCUSA Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com PS: John McElrath, PLEASE soldier and if there is ANY- THING I may assist you with, please feel free to ask. GREAT Luck with your project !!! From jhomonek at mindspring.com Mon Dec 14 16:43:34 2009 From: jhomonek at mindspring.com (John H) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:43:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Healeys] Information needed on BN7 MkII Message-ID: <13090490.1260834214835.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Ed, ???? Thanks No Yes Don't know No ???? John Homonek -----Original Message----- >From: "Sales at \" Just Brits \"" >Sent: Dec 14, 2009 6:20 PM >To: John H >Cc: linsley46 at gmail.com, Healeys at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Healeys] Information needed on BN7 MkII > >John H, I am ASHAMED of you. The ONLY thing in your >post that has a iota of sense is: > > > >My point is: I think they are made to be driven and enjoyed. > > > >So you ARE saying that DMH made & sold cars BUT >NOT to be 'driven' NOR 'enjoyed' ?!?!? > >YOU have been around long enough that you should >have met Rich Chrysler by now, I hope ?? > >What is the tacit 'motto' of the Concours Committee?? > >I am sorry but as one of the earliest backers of Rich >and Gary in forming The Concours Committee and of >accepting their Guidelines I am MORE then aware that >their ONLY goal was to restore cars back to "as they >were built" AND be DRIVEN AND ENJOYED !! > >Folks that take the view that a "Level" car is to be put >up in a museum or to become a Trailer Queen have a >ZERO concept of Concours. > >I have no idea of how many "Level" cars I have seen >Rich drive THOUSANDS of miles to attend events. >Did you go to Conclave '88 in Shangri-la, OK where >Rich had an example ?? That he DROVE from >Ontario, CANADA !!!! > >Oh I forgot, Rich doesn't DRIVE nor ENJOY "Level" >restored Healeys. My bad. > >Ed >'63 AH BJ 7 (Hortense THE Healey wearing STANDARD >[NOT hiding behind antiques ones] ILL plates AH BJ 7 ) >Founding Member & Delegate, ILLINI Chapter - AHCA >(35+ years). >Member & Tech Contact, AHCUSA > >Please visit MY site at: >www.justbrits.com > >PS: John McElrath, PLEASE soldier and if there is ANY- >THING I may assist you with, please feel free to ask. >GREAT Luck with your project !!! From haywoodone at hotmail.com Mon Dec 14 17:16:53 2009 From: haywoodone at hotmail.com (George Haywood) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:16:53 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] FW: BJ8 Trunk Restoration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: From: haywoodone at hotmail.com To: buhler at memphisassociates.com; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Healeys] BJ8 Trunk Restoration Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:15:40 -0500 Jon, I have pictures of my boot floor, frame extensions, and rear hoop replacement as well as original unmolested (except by rust that is) shots with most of the proper fittings in view. I will send them in several attachments as I can only send out maybe 5 or 6 at a time from Hotmail. They should give you a good idea of what should be done. George Haywood, '65 bj8 > From: buhler at memphisassociates.com > Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Trunk Restoration > > My next project is to restore the trunk area on my BJ8. Would any of you have > photos of this process on your Healey? Thanks for your help. > > Jon > _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ From richchrysler at quickclic.net Mon Dec 14 17:29:21 2009 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:29:21 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Information needed on BN7 MkII Message-ID: Some of the replies to John's request for advice and details just make me shake my head. I have always aimed Healey restoration toward building potentially Gold level winning cars. But these cars are meant to be driven and enjoyed from the first mile they're back on the road. A "concours car" simply means the owner has chosen to have it evaluated in a recognized National Concours event. It doesn't mean it has to be a different spec car than when it was new. It's completely up to the owner whether his car is entered into a Concours event or not. What I'm trying to say is that if a fellow builds his car to be as exact a specification as it was when it was sold new, it is extremely driveable, and why shouldn't it be? It was surely driveable back then! I have built and driven freshly restored Healeys hundreds, even thousands of miles to be judged, got the Gold, and proceeded to drive them elsewhere and eventually home again. A properly and well built Healey, done to exactly original specs is a trustworthy and dependable car. Why discorage the exactness the owner is trying to achieve and replace it with advice that takes him away from his goal? Rich Chrysler From pyoas at yahoo.com Mon Dec 14 17:54:03 2009 From: pyoas at yahoo.com (Patrick Yoas) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 16:54:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers Message-ID: <224240.78189.qm@web112519.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I hope this settles this once and for all. There is a starboard side and a port side. They remain the same no matter if the car is upside down(like they are in OZ). Boats or ships underwater, are often described as leaning on the ocean floor on their port or starboard sides(even if they're in OZ land) Patrick From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca >> >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers >> To: "Healeys" >> Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 12:29 PM >> >> No, no, no, don't do that!!! >> >> >> >> Passenger side can be either side depending on country ... >> "right" side means >> right hand side of the car as viewed from the driver's seat >> while facing >> forward. >> >> Robert Duquette >> Ottawa ON Canada >> 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) >> 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) >> 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen ) From rwil at sbcglobal.net Mon Dec 14 18:25:56 2009 From: rwil at sbcglobal.net (Roland Wilhelmy) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:25:56 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Information needed on BN7 MkII In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Amen to all you said, Rich. -Roland On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:29:21 -0500, you wrote: :: Some of the replies to John's request for advice and details just make me :: shake my head. :: :: I have always aimed Healey restoration toward building potentially Gold :: level winning cars. But these cars are meant to be driven and enjoyed from :: the first mile they're back on the road.... From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Mon Dec 14 19:18:55 2009 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:18:55 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] healey engine sound ringtone In-Reply-To: <173126440912100843k18926ef6p92efc88a2b89113d@mail.gmail.com> References: <173126440912100843k18926ef6p92efc88a2b89113d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I can down load the ring tone to phone but I cannot set it as a ring tone. It says it is not compatible and the service people say it is because it is only nine seconds long. I have AT&T. Any suggestions? Rich Kahn > From: eyera3 at gmail.com > Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:43:59 -0800 > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] healey engine sound ringtone > > http://www.mytinyphone.com/ringtone/147811/ > > -- > I Erbs > Portland, OR > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tahoehealey at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ From yeastd at sbcglobal.net Mon Dec 14 19:57:22 2009 From: yeastd at sbcglobal.net (Dennis Yeast) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:57:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Information needed on BN7 MkII In-Reply-To: <13090490.1260834214835.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <519154.83122.qm@web82707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> And I thought when I joined this chat recently on aquisition of a BN-1, hoping for advice and technical assistance that I would not receive the nonsense received so far. Was I wrong? Left/right/port/starboard/Paris travel advice???????????? Dennis Yeast email: yeastd at sbcglobal.net --- On Mon, 12/14/09, John H wrote: From: John H Subject: Re: [Healeys] Information needed on BN7 MkII To: sales at justbrits.com, "John H" Cc: Healeys at autox.team.net, linsley46 at gmail.com Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 11:43 PM Ed, ???? Thanks No Yes Don't know No ???? John Homonek -----Original Message----- >From: "Sales at \" Just Brits \"" >Sent: Dec 14, 2009 6:20 PM >To: John H >Cc: linsley46 at gmail.com, Healeys at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Healeys] Information needed on BN7 MkII > >John H, I am ASHAMED of you. The ONLY thing in your >post that has a iota of sense is: > > > >My point is: I think they are made to be driven and enjoyed. > > > >So you ARE saying that DMH made & sold cars BUT >NOT to be 'driven' NOR 'enjoyed' ?!?!? > >YOU have been around long enough that you should >have met Rich Chrysler by now, I hope ?? > >What is the tacit 'motto' of the Concours Committee?? > >I am sorry but as one of the earliest backers of Rich >and Gary in forming The Concours Committee and of >accepting their Guidelines I am MORE then aware that >their ONLY goal was to restore cars back to "as they >were built" AND be DRIVEN AND ENJOYED !! > >Folks that take the view that a "Level" car is to be put >up in a museum or to become a Trailer Queen have a >ZERO concept of Concours. > >I have no idea of how many "Level" cars I have seen >Rich drive THOUSANDS of miles to attend events. >Did you go to Conclave '88 in Shangri-la, OK where >Rich had an example ?? That he DROVE from >Ontario, CANADA !!!! > >Oh I forgot, Rich doesn't DRIVE nor ENJOY "Level" >restored Healeys. My bad. > >Ed >'63 AH BJ 7 (Hortense THE Healey wearing STANDARD >[NOT hiding behind antiques ones] ILL plates AH BJ 7 ) >Founding Member & Delegate, ILLINI Chapter - AHCA >(35+ years). >Member & Tech Contact, AHCUSA > >Please visit MY site at: >www.justbrits.com > >PS: John McElrath, PLEASE soldier and if there is ANY- >THING I may assist you with, please feel free to ask. >GREAT Luck with your project !!! Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as yeastd at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive From richchrysler at quickclic.net Mon Dec 14 20:46:28 2009 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:46:28 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Information needed on BN7 MkII References: <519154.83122.qm@web82707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <74A6875180244AC99B2498124FAD963C@LIFEBOOK> That's just the point, Dennis; ask away and some of us will do our best to provide good information, photos, etc. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Yeast" To: ; "John H" Cc: ; Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Information needed on BN7 MkII > And I thought when I joined this chat recently on aquisition of a BN-1, > hoping > for advice and technical assistance that I would not receive the nonsense > received so far. Was I wrong? Left/right/port/starboard/Paris travel > advice???????????? > > Dennis Yeast From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Mon Dec 14 21:07:14 2009 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 04:07:14 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?rivets?= Message-ID: <20091215040714.20620.qmail@server278.com> a couple of rivets in the top framework on the bn6 are worn pretty bad. are these hardware store items or do some of the suppliers carry them? hjim From keithbailey5 at bigpond.com Mon Dec 14 23:00:01 2009 From: keithbailey5 at bigpond.com (Keith Bailey) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 16:00:01 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Tyres Message-ID: Hi All I am currently look at new tires for my BT7 I have on the car now Michelin XZX which would be approx 10 years old and lucky to have 10% wear. My local tire dealer suggested Nankang Tires which are less expensive and can replaces every 4 years or so. Has any one got any experience using the tires and which series are they the size requires are 165x15 Regards Keith From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Dec 15 00:10:27 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:10:27 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Tyres In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I don't know too much about Nankang, except they are based in Taiwan. These days that's more or less a good thing, but likely most of the product is made in China. If their quality control is good, it could be good stuff, hard to say. A bit of a risk. Definitely do not keep use those old Michelins. Old Michelins (even with no wear) have a bit of a tendency to blow out on the road - dangerous. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Keith Bailey wrote: > Hi All > I am currently look at new tires for my BT7 I have on the car now > Michelin XZX which would be approx 10 years > old and lucky to have 10% wear. My local tire dealer suggested > Nankang > Tires which are less expensive and can > replaces every 4 years or so. Has any one got any experience using > the > tires and which series are they > the size requires are 165x15 > Regards Keith From grday at btinternet.com Tue Dec 15 00:59:21 2009 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 07:59:21 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Tyres References: Message-ID: Keith, Have a look at:- http://thegarageblog.com/garage/tire-review-nankang-ex500/ From post 21 on.... :-) http://www.epinions.com/reviews/Nankang_Trailer_Tires_Utility_Tire http://www.tyretest.com/ Tread separation and sidewalls seem to be an issue but most times the complaints mentioned are caused by overheating due to under inflation pressures. Also, the complaints indicate use for an extended time period immediately prior to the problem arising, this would support the low pressure leading to overheating causation. >From reading your post you don't seem to use the car so often so why not use them? Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Bailey" Subject: [Healeys] Tyres > Hi All > I am currently look at new tires for my BT7 I have on the car now > Michelin XZX which would be approx 10 years > old and lucky to have 10% wear. My local tire dealer suggested > Nankang > Tires which are less expensive and can > replaces every 4 years or so. Has any one got any experience using > the > tires and which series are they > the size requires are 165x15 > Regards Keith > _______________________________________________ From grday at btinternet.com Tue Dec 15 01:20:40 2009 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 08:20:40 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Tyres References: Message-ID: Alan, Nankang have been making tyres in Taiwan since the 1940's. They seem to have variable reviews with different comments for different sizes. Manufacturing quality control is hard to maintain and they may suffer from that. One tyre company (a number of years ago) had problems simply because the night staff opened an external door to let cooler air in and that affected the bond between metal bracing cords and rubber. It cost a lot of money because one guy on the production line was warm! Old Michelins tend to have a low pressure in them through neglect, that is the probably reason for a bit of a tendency to blow out on the road ! Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Seigrist" Subject: Re: [Healeys] Tyres >I don't know too much about Nankang, except they are based in Taiwan. >These > days that's more or less a good thing, but likely most of the product is > made in China. If their quality control is good, it could be good stuff, > hard to say. A bit of a risk. > > Definitely do not keep use those old Michelins. Old Michelins (even with > no > wear) have a bit of a tendency to blow out on the road - dangerous. > Alan From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Dec 15 01:35:23 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 09:35:23 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers In-Reply-To: <224240.78189.qm@web112519.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <224240.78189.qm@web112519.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4B274A4B.1090101@chello.nl> Problem is: What is port and what is starboard, left / right? And then we can start all over again. Kees Oudesluijs NL Patrick Yoas schreef: > I hope this settles this once and for all. There is a starboard side and a > port side. They remain the same no matter if the car is upside down(like they > are in OZ). Boats or ships underwater, are often described as leaning on the > ocean floor on their port or starboard sides(even if they're in OZ land) > Patrick > > > From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca > >>> >>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers >>> To: "Healeys" >>> Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 12:29 PM >>> >>> No, no, no, don't do that!!! >>> >>> >>> >>> Passenger side can be either side depending on country ... >>> "right" side means >>> right hand side of the car as viewed from the driver's seat >>> while facing >>> forward. >>> >>> Robert Duquette >>> Ottawa ON Canada >>> 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) >>> 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) >>> 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen ) >>> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Dec 15 01:55:30 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 09:55:30 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] rivets In-Reply-To: <20091215040714.20620.qmail@server278.com> References: <20091215040714.20620.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: <4B274F02.8030007@chello.nl> It may be more convenient to replace them with tight fitting bolts with a short cilindrical shaft and self locking nuts, after redrilling/reaming the holes in the frame to the diameter of the bolts shaft. Fit them with some graphite/MoS2 grease. Do not forget to fit brass or nylon washers between the moving parts. If you want to use rivets, you still have to redril/ream the holes as they are likely to have worn as well. Rivets are still available in many sizes, but you may have to search around a bit. Hardware shops/Google/Ebay etc. You can always have them made up by a machine shop. Kees Oudesluijs NL healeymanjim at hansencc.net schreef: > a couple of rivets in the top framework on the bn6 are worn pretty bad. are these hardware store items or do some of the suppliers carry them? hjim From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Dec 15 02:24:40 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:24:40 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Tyres In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: All - I note the reviews seem to suggest these are very hard wearing tires. This generally is a good sign, but can be deceptive when it comes to safety over time. Once the tires start getting old, they tires may look good and have full tread, but hard tires like this will definitely lose their grip and become quite dangerous in wet conditions after a few years. I had Rikens like this, and they looked new, but after a decade they couldn't hold all that well in hot dry conditions, and wet conditions there was no hold at all. Eventually the belts delaminated and I replaced the tires, but the treads still looked good. Sometimes having a tire that starts looking like crap when it gets old is a good thing - it makes you change your tires when you should. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Guy R Day wrote: > Keith, > > Have a look at:- > http://thegarageblog.com/garage/tire-review-nankang-ex500/ From post 21 > on.... :-) > http://www.epinions.com/reviews/Nankang_Trailer_Tires_Utility_Tire > http://www.tyretest.com/ > > Tread separation and sidewalls seem to be an issue but most times the > complaints mentioned are caused by overheating due to under inflation > pressures. Also, the complaints indicate use for an extended time period > immediately prior to the problem arising, this would support the low > pressure leading to overheating causation. > > From reading your post you don't seem to use the car so often so why not >> use >> > them? > > Guy R Day > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Bailey" > Subject: [Healeys] Tyres > > > > Hi All >> I am currently look at new tires for my BT7 I have on the car now >> Michelin XZX which would be approx 10 years >> old and lucky to have 10% wear. My local tire dealer suggested >> Nankang >> Tires which are less expensive and can >> replaces every 4 years or so. Has any one got any experience using >> the >> tires and which series are they >> the size requires are 165x15 >> Regards Keith >> _______________________________________________ >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Dec 15 02:27:58 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 10:27:58 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Tyres In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B27569E.1090209@chello.nl> Keith, Tires manufacturers to consider are: Michelin, Continental, Vredestein (may have balancing issues), Kumho (used to be terrible but recently had some quite good test results). Prices are not that important for safety's sake, spread over 6/7 years. Steer clear of Nankang, Hankook, General, Nexen and several others from Korea, China, Indonesia, India etc. and remanufactured tires. Watch the manufacturing dates as specified by the codes, see: http://www.tuninglinx.com/html/car-tire-date-code.html Kees Oudesluijs NL Keith Bailey schreef: > Hi All > I am currently look at new tires for my BT7 I have on the car now > Michelin XZX which would be approx 10 years > old and lucky to have 10% wear. My local tire dealer suggested Nankang > Tires which are less expensive and can > replaces every 4 years or so. Has any one got any experience using the > tires and which series are they > the size requires are 165x15 > Regards Keith > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 15 04:26:02 2009 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 06:26:02 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Tyres References: Message-ID: <000201ca7d79$8c0827e0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Tires? Again? Oh my god. See you guys next year. Archives, archives, archives. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Bailey" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 1:00 AM Subject: [Healeys] Tyres > Hi All > I am currently look at new tires for my BT7 I have on the car now > Michelin XZX which would be approx 10 years > old and lucky to have 10% wear. My local tire dealer suggested > Nankang > Tires which are less expensive and can > replaces every 4 years or so. Has any one got any experience using > the > tires and which series are they > the size requires are 165x15 > Regards Keith > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as lapierrem at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From mgcharlie at comcast.net Tue Dec 15 06:18:25 2009 From: mgcharlie at comcast.net (Charlie Baldwin) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 08:18:25 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Tyres In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B278CA1.1060407@comcast.net> Alan is right about the Michelins. I had a XZX with good tread of indeterminate age, but over ten years old, separate the tread last year. Fortunately I wasn't going fast. Bought a new set of Kumhos from Tire Rack to replace them. Charlie Alan Seigrist wrote: > I don't know too much about Nankang, except they are based in Taiwan. These > days that's more or less a good thing, but likely most of the product is > made in China. If their quality control is good, it could be good stuff, > hard to say. A bit of a risk. > > Definitely do not keep use those old Michelins. Old Michelins (even with no > wear) have a bit of a tendency to blow out on the road - dangerous. > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '59 Jag Mk IX > '64 BJ8 > > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Keith Bailey wrote: > > >> Hi All >> I am currently look at new tires for my BT7 I have on the car now >> Michelin XZX which would be approx 10 years >> old and lucky to have 10% wear. My local tire dealer suggested >> Nankang >> Tires which are less expensive and can >> replaces every 4 years or so. Has any one got any experience using >> the >> tires and which series are they >> the size requires are 165x15 >> Regards Keith >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as mgcharlie at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of mgcharlie.vcf] From sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au Tue Dec 15 06:27:45 2009 From: sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au (Joe and Lenore Armour) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 00:27:45 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] TYRES Message-ID: <4B278ED1.3040106@illawarra.hotkey.net.au> Each and almost every company will make a tyre to suit a range of buyers/users. Moral do not blindly buy according to company advertising blurb. My suggestion is with cars that generally do little mileage buy 'soft' tyres that handle and brake well. In autralia the motoring mags. do tyre tests with the same vvehicle and driver. It is amazing for example that in brand name tyres you can get several car length difference in stopping distances. The best wet performance and dry are not not necessarily from the same brand. One FACT I find most usefull is the number on the side of the tyre that indicates it's wear factor. It is assumed that low wear is consistant with soft rubber and therefore better grip. For example our local GM V.8 goer is issued with Wear Indicator 140, my Michelins were 240 as were my Continentals. As a comparison my Sprite road legal track day tyres are 60. Go to you shop and say give me cheap tyres and you may be sold 360. When I need to stop in a hurry I want to STOP. It would seem most of us and our cars are aging and we need all the help we can get. Our only contact with the road is that little patch, do you want adhesion or something approaching carbon? Joe From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Dec 15 06:33:57 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 13:33:57 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] steering idler arm Message-ID: Going from my bad memory ... is this what someone was looking for a short while back? Ebay item # 320462465804 From sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au Tue Dec 15 06:35:11 2009 From: sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au (Joe and Lenore Armour) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 00:35:11 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] More Sad Tyre Stories. Message-ID: <4B27908F.9040303@illawarra.hotkey.net.au> My old BN.4 fitted with half worn Pirelli Cinturatos was not all that pleasant to drive and in a moment of weakness I agreed to sell it as I had two other Healeys. The buyer's deal was a new set of tyres. I agreed and fitted some ordinary set of radials I cannot remember the name of. The improvement in the responsiveness of the steering and overall feel of the car left men with a pissed off feeling as the pleasure was back and if I had not cashed the deposit cheque I would have withdrawn the Healey from sale. MORAL, get new and get good tyres. You will smile all the way. Joe From Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com Tue Dec 15 08:12:49 2009 From: Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 07:12:49 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Tyres In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D034200E6@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> I like my old Michelins better than my new Vredestiens! Even with the wider 185/70 size compared to 165. Ken Freese 65 BJ8 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Keith Bailey Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 10:00 PM To: Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Tyres Hi All I am currently look at new tires for my BT7 I have on the car now Michelin XZX which would be approx 10 years old and lucky to have 10% wear. My local tire dealer suggested Nankang Tires which are less expensive and can replaces every 4 years or so. Has any one got any experience using the tires and which series are they the size requires are 165x15 Regards Keith From j.aeckerlin at gmail.com Tue Dec 15 08:50:00 2009 From: j.aeckerlin at gmail.com (Jaap Aeckerlin) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 16:50:00 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Trunk Restoration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4e23c7250912150750o44e858b2pe3fb28e24b3f686b@mail.gmail.com> Jon, I've got plenty pics. Will send them from my Picasa site. Jack Aeckerlin, The Netherlands 1964 BJ8 29432 2009/12/14 Jon Buhler > My next project is to restore the trunk area on my BJ8. Would any of you > have > photos of this process on your Healey? Thanks for your help. > > Jon > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as j.aeckerlin at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Tue Dec 15 09:06:47 2009 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 08:06:47 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Tires again Message-ID: One comment made regarding low pressure and heat got me thinking. What is the best pressure for longer life and safety with our cars? Will it depend upon type and brand? I get the best ride and handling with my Michelins at about 30 to 32 psi. Rich Kahn _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/ From Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com Tue Dec 15 09:14:40 2009 From: Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 08:14:40 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] rivets In-Reply-To: <20091215040714.20620.qmail@server278.com> References: <20091215040714.20620.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D034200EA@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> I got my BJ8 steel rivets from McMaster-Car industrial supply on the Internet last winter. Look in the archives. I don't know if they are the same or not as a BN6. It takes two persons to rivet and the air hammer set on max! Practice. I was able to use the original rivet diameters and holes without reaming. The rivets seemed to wear more than the holes. Ken Freese 65 BJ8 From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 15 09:23:49 2009 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 08:23:49 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] rivets In-Reply-To: <20091215040714.20620.qmail@server278.com> References: <20091215040714.20620.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: <57320728-0025-4492-9B05-C82B001C58C9@sbcglobal.net> Yes we have all the rivits needed to repair all the Healey top frames. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Dec 14, 2009, at 8:07 PM, wrote: > a couple of rivets in the top framework on the bn6 are worn pretty > bad. are these hardware store items or do some of the suppliers > carry them? hjim > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 15 09:25:57 2009 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 08:25:57 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Tyres In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: A good tire is very important in the performance of your Healey. DO NOT scrimp on tires. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Dec 14, 2009, at 10:00 PM, Keith Bailey wrote: > Hi All > I am currently look at new tires for my BT7 I have on the > car now > Michelin XZX which would be approx 10 years > old and lucky to have 10% wear. My local tire dealer > suggested Nankang > Tires which are less expensive and can > replaces every 4 years or so. Has any one got any > experience using the > tires and which series are they > the size requires are 165x15 > Regards Keith > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From ronald-ray at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 15 10:04:07 2009 From: ronald-ray at sbcglobal.net (Ron Ray) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 11:04:07 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Information needed on BN7 MkII In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002f01ca7da8$9d161bd0$d7425370$@net> Thank you Rich, for saying what hopefully many of us know; driving these cars is the reason to own them. It is simply fun, and sometimes challenging, to take a 50 year old car, restored or preserved to its original condition, and drive it as if the car incorporated all the technology one needs. And in my opinion, it does provides just that. Beginning in 2006 when our 1959 BT7 was judged, we have preferred to drive it on trips rather than just drives, driving over 14,000 miles, including three Conclaves (1,800 miles, 3,400 miles, and 2,730 miles) and Sprite Jubilee in Carlisle, PA (2,190 miles). Rich is right, "trustworthy and dependable" define our car perfectly. Ron Ray -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rich C Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 6:29 PM To: Healeys Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Information needed on BN7 MkII Some of the replies to John's request for advice and details just make me shake my head. I have always aimed Healey restoration toward building potentially Gold level winning cars. But these cars are meant to be driven and enjoyed from the first mile they're back on the road. A "concours car" simply means the owner has chosen to have it evaluated in a recognized National Concours event. It doesn't mean it has to be a different spec car than when it was new. It's completely up to the owner whether his car is entered into a Concours event or not. What I'm trying to say is that if a fellow builds his car to be as exact a specification as it was when it was sold new, it is extremely driveable, and why shouldn't it be? It was surely driveable back then! I have built and driven freshly restored Healeys hundreds, even thousands of miles to be judged, got the Gold, and proceeded to drive them elsewhere and eventually home again. A properly and well built Healey, done to exactly original specs is a trustworthy and dependable car. Why discorage the exactness the owner is trying to achieve and replace it with advice that takes him away from his goal? Rich Chrysler From pyoas at yahoo.com Tue Dec 15 10:47:08 2009 From: pyoas at yahoo.com (Patrick Yoas) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 09:47:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers Message-ID: <920556.66642.qm@web112502.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Lets kick this up a notch. Lets assume that the front seats are installed correctly, facing forward, with forward as defined as towards the front bumper(if bumper is installed correctly and not confused with the rear bumper)...we may also use the bonnet/hood, which covers the engine as a referrence at this point in case there's no bumper. The person to the left of the person on the right is on the port side and the person to the right of the person on the left is on the starboard side. This is assuming that a person knows there left from right and if they were paying attention to first paragraph. From: Oudesluys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers To: Patrick Yoas Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Message-ID: <4B274A4B.1090101 at chello.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Problem is: What is port and what is starboard, left / right? And then we can start all over again. Kees Oudesluijs NL Patrick Yoas schreef: > I hope this settles this once and for all. There is a starboard side and a > port side. They remain the same no matter if the car is upside down(like they > are in OZ). Boats or ships underwater, are often described as leaning on the > ocean floor on their port or starboard sides(even if they're in OZ land) > Patrick > > > From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca > >>> >>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers >>> To: "Healeys" >>> Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 12:29 PM >>> >>> No, no, no, don't do that!!! >>> >>> >>> >>> Passenger side can be either side depending on country ... >>> "right" side means >>> right hand side of the car as viewed from the driver's seat >>> while facing >>> forward. >>> >>> Robert Duquette >>> Ottawa ON Canada >>> 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) >>> 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) >>> 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen ) From dan at warner-associates.com Tue Dec 15 10:54:20 2009 From: dan at warner-associates.com (Dan Stromquist) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 11:54:20 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Tyres In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Keith: Go into the website of Longstone Tyres out of the UK and check out the Michelin XAS which is 180X15. The diameter is very close to the original size Dunlop Roadspeeds RS5 I purchased. Fabulous selection of radials to fit the Healeys and very reasonable shipping. Dan -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Keith Bailey Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 12:00 AM To: Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Tyres Hi All I am currently look at new tires for my BT7 I have on the car now Michelin XZX which would be approx 10 years old and lucky to have 10% wear. My local tire dealer suggested Nankang Tires which are less expensive and can replaces every 4 years or so. Has any one got any experience using the tires and which series are they the size requires are 165x15 Regards Keith Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as dan at warner-associates.com http://www.team.net/archive From eyera3 at gmail.com Tue Dec 15 11:07:21 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 10:07:21 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers In-Reply-To: <920556.66642.qm@web112502.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <920556.66642.qm@web112502.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <173126440912151007u479b5afehcbbcb1b40381677d@mail.gmail.com> Ok. I am guilty of playing too, but please stop now. Ira On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Patrick Yoas wrote: > Lets kick this up a notch. > Lets assume that the front seats are installed correctly, facing forward, > with > forward as defined as towards the front bumper(if bumper is installed > correctly and not confused with the rear bumper)...we may also use the > bonnet/hood, which covers the engine as a referrence at this point in case > there's no bumper. > The person to the left of the person on the right is on the port side and > the > person to the right of the person on the left is on the starboard side. > This > is assuming that a person knows there left from right and if they were > paying > attention to first paragraph. From fogbro1 at comcast.net Tue Dec 15 11:18:14 2009 From: fogbro1 at comcast.net (Ed Woods) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 13:18:14 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Top Bows Wanted References: Message-ID: <1F9E9BD9B6E54AA996DB0010C85E507A@Edscomputer> List, I'm looking for top bows for an early BN4, the type that are "permanently" attached to the car and have some sort of sliding mechanism incorporated in their action. Please reply off list. Ed Woods From willig at wtnet.de Tue Dec 15 12:46:18 2009 From: willig at wtnet.de (T+ B Willig) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:46:18 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Blue Armacord set for BN2 Message-ID: <001201ca7dbf$45cc1a70$d1644f50$@de> Can someone direct me to a source of good quality (talking about fit) blue Armacord boot and cockpit set for my BN2? I bought a set from one of the oldest suppliers of spare parts in the UK and the fit is absolutely terrible. Not one piece of Armacord will fit my car without extensive modification. You might argue that all early Healeys are dimensionally a bid different..but even the Armacord for the battery lid is 3/4*" to wide. Thanks Thomas From insptwo at msn.com Tue Dec 15 12:55:50 2009 From: insptwo at msn.com (insptwo at msn.com) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 14:55:50 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers In-Reply-To: <4B274A4B.1090101@chello.nl> References: <224240.78189.qm@web112519.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>, <4B274A4B.1090101@chello.nl> Message-ID: That is easy to remember, Port is left (note the 4 letters)! Bill BJ7 > Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 09:35:23 +0100 > From: coudesluijs at chello.nl > To: pyoas at yahoo.com > CC: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers > > Problem is: > What is port and what is starboard, left / right? And then we can start > all over again. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL > > Patrick Yoas schreef: > > I hope this settles this once and for all. There is a starboard side and a > > port side. They remain the same no matter if the car is upside down(like they > > are in OZ). Boats or ships underwater, are often described as leaning on the > > ocean floor on their port or starboard sides(even if they're in OZ land) > > Patrick > > > > > > From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca > > > >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers > >>> To: "Healeys" > >>> Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 12:29 PM > >>> > >>> No, no, no, don't do that!!! > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Passenger side can be either side depending on country ... > >>> "right" side means > >>> right hand side of the car as viewed from the driver's seat > >>> while facing > >>> forward. > >>> > >>> Robert Duquette > >>> Ottawa ON Canada > >>> 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) > >>> 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) > >>> 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen ) > >>> > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as insptwo at msn.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From insptwo at msn.com Tue Dec 15 13:16:08 2009 From: insptwo at msn.com (insptwo at msn.com) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:16:08 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers In-Reply-To: <4B274A4B.1090101@chello.nl> References: <224240.78189.qm@web112519.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>, <4B274A4B.1090101@chello.nl> Message-ID: Basically it is very simple. I learned this at a very young age when I first began boating. Port is left (easy way to remember is that they are both 4 letter words). Bill BJ7 > Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 09:35:23 +0100 > From: coudesluijs at chello.nl > To: pyoas at yahoo.com > CC: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers > > Problem is: > What is port and what is starboard, left / right? And then we can start > all over again. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL > > Patrick Yoas schreef: > > I hope this settles this once and for all. There is a starboard side and a > > port side. They remain the same no matter if the car is upside down(like they > > are in OZ). Boats or ships underwater, are often described as leaning on the > > ocean floor on their port or starboard sides(even if they're in OZ land) > > Patrick From ah53 at yahoo.com Tue Dec 15 13:40:09 2009 From: ah53 at yahoo.com (jomar healey) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 12:40:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Blue Armacord set for BN2 In-Reply-To: <001201ca7dbf$45cc1a70$d1644f50$@de> Message-ID: <173709.94470.qm@web31506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Woolies in UK carries armacord/hundura on their web site by the yard. I have not seen it in person. Joe BN1 #923 Coronet Cream BN2 100M BJ8 The Blue Baby as per wife and kid --- On Tue, 12/15/09, T+ B Willig wrote: From: T+ B Willig Subject: [Healeys] Blue Armacord set for BN2 To: healeys at autox.team.net Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 2:46 PM Can someone direct me to a source of good quality (talking about fit) blue Armacord boot and cockpit set for my BN2? I bought a set from one of the oldest suppliers of spare parts in the UK and the fit is absolutely terrible. Not one piece of Armacord will fit my car without extensive modification. You might argue that all early Healeys are dimensionally a bid different..but even the Armacord for the battery lid is 3/4*" to wide. Thanks Thomas Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as ah53 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive From bcrist at club-internet.fr Tue Dec 15 13:57:02 2009 From: bcrist at club-internet.fr (Bernard Cristalli) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:57:02 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers In-Reply-To: References: <224240.78189.qm@web112519.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>, <4B274A4B.1090101@chello.nl> Message-ID: <4B27F81E.8070003@club-internet.fr> Starboard = Steerboard The steering was done on the right side on the Drakkars, the Vikings boats. http://im.quirao2.com/qimage/p/gde/p2/drakkar-viking-60-2.jpg BC insptwo at msn.com a icrit : > That is easy to remember, Port is left (note the 4 letters)! > > Bill > > BJ7 > > >> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 09:35:23 +0100 >> From: coudesluijs at chello.nl >> To: pyoas at yahoo.com >> CC: healeys at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers >> >> Problem is: >> What is port and what is starboard, left / right? And then we can start >> all over again. >> Kees Oudesluijs >> NL >> >> Patrick Yoas schreef: >> >>> I hope this settles this once and for all. There is a starboard side and >>> > a > >>> port side. They remain the same no matter if the car is upside down(like >>> > they > >>> are in OZ). Boats or ships underwater, are often described as leaning on >>> > the > >>> ocean floor on their port or starboard sides(even if they're in OZ land) >>> Patrick >>> >>> >>> From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca >>> >>> >>>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers >>>>> To: "Healeys" >>>>> Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 12:29 PM >>>>> >>>>> No, no, no, don't do that!!! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Passenger side can be either side depending on country ... >>>>> "right" side means >>>>> right hand side of the car as viewed from the driver's seat >>>>> while facing >>>>> forward. >>>>> >>>>> Robert Duquette >>>>> Ottawa ON Canada >>>>> 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) >>>>> 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) >>>>> 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen ) >>>>> >>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl >>> >>> http://www.team.net/archive >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as insptwo at msn.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as bcrist at club-internet.fr > > http://www.team.net/archive From cabowley at hotmail.com Tue Dec 15 14:32:26 2009 From: cabowley at hotmail.com (Chris Bowley) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:32:26 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Information needed on BN7 MkII In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hear here! And well said. > From: richchrysler at quickclic.net > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:29:21 -0500 > Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Information needed on BN7 MkII > > Some of the replies to John's request for advice and details just make me > shake my head. > > I have always aimed Healey restoration toward building potentially Gold > level winning cars. But these cars are meant to be driven and enjoyed from > the first mile they're back on the road. A "concours car" simply means the > owner has chosen to have it evaluated in a recognized National Concours > event. It doesn't mean it has to be a different spec car than when it was > new. It's completely up to the owner whether his car is entered into a > Concours event or not. > > What I'm trying to say is that if a fellow builds his car to be as exact a > specification as it was when it was sold new, it is extremely driveable, > and > why shouldn't it be? It was surely driveable back then! I have built and > driven freshly restored Healeys hundreds, even thousands of miles to be > judged, got the Gold, and proceeded to drive them elsewhere and eventually > home again. A properly and well built Healey, done to exactly original > specs > is a trustworthy and dependable car. > > Why discorage the exactness the owner is trying to achieve and replace it > with advice that takes him away from his goal? > > Rich Chrysler > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as cabowley at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail: Your friends can get your Facebook updates, right from Hotmail.. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/soci al-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_4:092009 From rdavies1 at cox.net Tue Dec 15 17:04:17 2009 From: rdavies1 at cox.net (Ron Davies) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 16:04:17 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers In-Reply-To: <4B27F81E.8070003@club-internet.fr> References: <224240.78189.qm@web112519.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>, <4B274A4B.1090101@chello.nl> <4B27F81E.8070003@club-internet.fr> Message-ID: And Larboard was the left side, now Port =-) Ron Starboard = Steerboard The steering was done on the right side on the Drakkars, the Vikings boats. http://im.quirao2.com/qimage/p/gde/p2/drakkar-viking-60-2.jpg BC From richchrysler at quickclic.net Tue Dec 15 17:22:24 2009 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:22:24 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Blue Armacord set for BN2 References: <001201ca7dbf$45cc1a70$d1644f50$@de> Message-ID: <8C72014B51EF42D288614F408820C1BD@LIFEBOOK> I have bought and installed one red, three blue and two black Armacord sets for customers' Hundreds from Heritage Upholstery and Trim, so far over the last few years and have been happy with all of them. I will point out that I find it's worth it to have them trim the battery compartment lid as it can be a fussy and exacting item to fit properly. In fact when doing the full interior I also have them trim the seats, armrest, parcel tray and the gearbox cover on BN1's. The balance comes as excellent kits and always results in an excellent and first class job. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "T+ B Willig" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 2:46 PM Subject: [Healeys] Blue Armacord set for BN2 > Can someone direct me to a source of good quality (talking about fit) blue > Armacord boot and cockpit set for my BN2? > > I bought a set from one of the oldest suppliers of spare parts in the UK > and the fit is absolutely terrible. Not one piece of Armacord will fit my > car without extensive modification. You might argue that all early Healeys > are dimensionally a bid different..but even the Armacord for the battery > lid is 3/4*" to wide. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Thomas > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richchrysler at quickclic.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From bighealey3k at aim.com Tue Dec 15 17:37:30 2009 From: bighealey3k at aim.com (bighealey3k at aim.com) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:37:30 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers In-Reply-To: <4B27F81E.8070003@club-internet.fr> References: <224240.78189.qm@web112519.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>, <4B274A4B.1090101@chello.nl> <4B27F81E.8070003@club-internet.fr> Message-ID: <8CC4BFF15BB1C61-8270-64DD@webmail-d071.sysops.aol.com> Just found this on Wikipedia "Star light, star bright, starboard is to the right" Larry '67 BJ8 -----Original Message----- From: Bernard Cristalli To: Healey List Sent: Tue, Dec 15, 2009 3:57 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers Starboard = Steerboard The steering was done on the right side on the Drakkars, the Vikings boats. http://im.quirao2.com/qimage/p/gde/p2/drakkar-viking-60-2.jpg BC insptwo at msn.com a icrit : > That is easy to remember, Port is left (note the 4 letters)! > > Bill > > BJ7 > > >> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 09:35:23 +0100 >> From: coudesluijs at chello.nl >> To: pyoas at yahoo.com >> CC: healeys at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers >> >> Problem is: >> What is port and what is starboard, left / right? And then we can start >> all over again. >> Kees Oudesluijs >> NL >> >> Patrick Yoas schreef: >> >>> I hope this settles this once and for all. There is a starboard side and >>> > a > >>> port side. They remain the same no matter if the car is upside down(like >>> > they > >>> are in OZ). Boats or ships underwater, are often described as leaning on >>> > the > >>> ocean floor on their port or starboard sides(even if they're in OZ land) >>> Patrick >>> >>> >>> From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca >>> >>> >>>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers >>>>> To: "Healeys" >>>>> Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 12:29 PM >>>>> >>>>> No, no, no, don't do that!!! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Passenger side can be either side depending on country ... >>>>> "right" side means >>>>> right hand side of the car as viewed from the driver's seat >>>>> while facing >>>>> forward. >>>>> >>>>> Robert Duquette >>>>> Ottawa ON Canada >>>>> 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) >>>>> 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) >>>>> 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen ) >>>>> >>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl >>> >>> http://www.team.net/archive >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as insptwo at msn.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as bcrist at club-internet.fr > > http://www.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as bighealey3k at aim.com http://www.team.net/archive From britcar1 at msn.com Tue Dec 15 17:42:50 2009 From: britcar1 at msn.com (DONALD N JOY) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 16:42:50 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Blue Armacord set for BN2 In-Reply-To: <001201ca7dbf$45cc1a70$d1644f50$@de> <8C72014B51EF42D288614F408820C1BD@LIFEBOOK> References: <001201ca7dbf$45cc1a70$d1644f50$@de> <8C72014B51EF42D288614F408820C1BD@LIFEBOOK> Message-ID: I would 2nd Rich's comment on the blue armacord from Heritage Upholstery. I installed their kit in a BN1 several years ago and had no problems with it. As he said the battery lid is fussy but if a person is not in a hurry it is not a problem Don Joy From: Rich C To: T+ B Willig ; healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Blue Armacord set for BN2 I have bought and installed one red, three blue and two black Armacord sets for customers' Hundreds from Heritage Upholstery and Trim, so far over the last few years and have been happy with all of them. I will point out that I find it's worth it to have them trim the battery compartment lid as it can be a fussy and exacting item to fit properly. In fact when doing the full interior I also have them trim the seats, armrest, parcel tray and the gearbox cover on BN1's. The balance comes as excellent kits and always results in an excellent and first class job. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "T+ B Willig" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 2:46 PM Subject: [Healeys] Blue Armacord set for BN2 > Can someone direct me to a source of good quality (talking about fit) blue > Armacord boot and cockpit set for my BN2? > > I bought a set from one of the oldest suppliers of spare parts in the UK > and the fit is absolutely terrible. Not one piece of Armacord will fit my > car without extensive modification. You might argue that all early Healeys > are dimensionally a bid different..but even the Armacord for the battery > lid is 3/4*" to wide. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Thomas > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richchrysler at quickclic.net > > http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as britcar1 at msn.com http://www.team.net/archive From mayorrichard at hotmail.com Tue Dec 15 19:14:06 2009 From: mayorrichard at hotmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 02:14:06 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers In-Reply-To: References: <224240.78189.qm@web112519.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>, , <4B274A4B.1090101@chello.nl>, <4B27F81E.8070003@club-internet.fr>, Message-ID: Sailors say: I left my girl in port. Enough!!!!!!! > From: rdavies1 at cox.net > To: bcrist at club-internet.fr; healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 16:04:17 -0800 > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers > > And Larboard was the left side, now Port =-) > Ron > > > Starboard = Steerboard > The steering was done on the right side on the Drakkars, the Vikings boats. > http://im.quirao2.com/qimage/p/gde/p2/drakkar-viking-60-2.jpg > > BC > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as mayorrichard at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ From 63ahbj7 at comcast.net Tue Dec 15 19:29:39 2009 From: 63ahbj7 at comcast.net (63ahbj7) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:29:39 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers In-Reply-To: References: <224240.78189.qm@web112519.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>, , <4B274A4B.1090101@chello.nl>, <4B27F81E.8070003@club-internet.fr>, Message-ID: <4B284613.1020806@comcast.net> But Ron.... << And Larboard was the left side, now Port >> I was under the impression that "Port" side was where the WINE was stowed and "Larbord" was where the GROCERIES where stowed ?!?! So all these years my info has been incorrect because they both could NOT be on the SAME side, right ?!?!? Confusead From jkrowe46 at bigpond.net.au Tue Dec 15 19:37:39 2009 From: jkrowe46 at bigpond.net.au (John Rowe) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 12:37:39 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers In-Reply-To: <8CC4BFF15BB1C61-8270-64DD@webmail-d071.sysops.aol.com> References: <224240.78189.qm@web112519.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>, <4B274A4B.1090101@chello.nl><4B27F81E.8070003@club-internet.fr> <8CC4BFF15BB1C61-8270-64DD@webmail-d071.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: When is enough enough? From schauss at worldnet.att.net Tue Dec 15 20:26:25 2009 From: schauss at worldnet.att.net (Peter Schauss) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:26:25 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Tires again In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20091216032625.DDC2B18789F@autox.team.net> I have always followed the recommendation in the owner's manual 25# in the front and 30# in the rear. When I got my new tires from Hendrix he recommended 30# on all four. I tried that, but the car did not hold the road as well so I dropped the fronts back to 25#. Peter Schauss 1963 BJ7 1980 MGB > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys- > bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard Kahn > Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 11:07 AM > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] Tires again > > One comment made regarding low pressure and heat got me thinking. What is > the > best pressure for longer life and safety with our cars? Will it depend > upon > type and brand? I get the best ride and handling with my Michelins at > about 30 > to 32 psi. > Rich Kahn > > _________________________________________________________________ > Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as schauss at worldnet.att.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From healeydoc at verizon.net Tue Dec 15 21:02:31 2009 From: healeydoc at verizon.net (David Nock) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:02:31 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Tires again In-Reply-To: <20091216032625.DDC2B18789F@autox.team.net> References: <20091216032625.DDC2B18789F@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <4F31B33E-6748-4402-AF07-9915AD143310@verizon.net> Those tire pressures were for the old bias Ply tires, if you run that low of a pressure in a steel belted tire you will have excessive wear and poor handeling/ On Dec 15, 2009, at 7:26 PM, Peter Schauss wrote: > I have always followed the recommendation in the owner's manual 25# > in the > front and 30# in the rear. When I got my new tires from Hendrix he > recommended 30# on all four. I tried that, but the car did not > hold the > road as well so I dropped the fronts back to 25#. > > Peter Schauss > 1963 BJ7 > 1980 MGB > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys- >> bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard Kahn >> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 11:07 AM >> To: healeys at autox.team.net >> Subject: [Healeys] Tires again >> >> One comment made regarding low pressure and heat got me thinking. >> What is >> the >> best pressure for longer life and safety with our cars? Will it >> depend >> upon >> type and brand? I get the best ride and handling with my Michelins at >> about 30 >> to 32 psi. >> Rich Kahn >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. >> http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as schauss at worldnet.att.net >> >> http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc at verizon.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From eyera3 at gmail.com Tue Dec 15 21:07:10 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:07:10 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] original color combos Message-ID: <173126440912152007s29e8c385scdad1a5c249810e7@mail.gmail.com> The www.healey.org site used to have a great section on colors for specific models and combinations. Have not been able to locate it. please send me a link to this info. We are taking my car down to bare metal and my wife and I want to check out the paint schemes. Thanks -- I Erbs Portland, OR From jkrowe46 at bigpond.net.au Tue Dec 15 21:58:36 2009 From: jkrowe46 at bigpond.net.au (John Rowe) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 14:58:36 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers In-Reply-To: <4B284EEB.30202@sasktel.net> References: <224240.78189.qm@web112519.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4B274A4B.1090101@chello.nl> <4B27F81E.8070003@club-internet.fr> <8CC4BFF15BB1C61-8270-64DD@webmail-d071.sysops.aol.com> <4B284EEB.30202@sasktel.net> Message-ID: <9BF466672BAE4C1E8EFCD126FC90B974@Johnlaptop> Time to move to a better place! (or climate) Regards John (Qld Aust) ----- Original Message ----- From: "E.A. Driver" To: "John Rowe" Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 1:07 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Chassis Numbers > When it gets to -31C with winds up 15 kph to give a wind chill of -45C > Kind regards > Ed > > > John Rowe wrote: >> When is enough enough? From eyera3 at gmail.com Tue Dec 15 22:09:56 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:09:56 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] original color combos In-Reply-To: <173126440912152007s29e8c385scdad1a5c249810e7@mail.gmail.com> References: <173126440912152007s29e8c385scdad1a5c249810e7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <173126440912152109w64309bbbycf838b84ef2c4805@mail.gmail.com> got what I was looking for http://www.austinhealey.com/ On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 8:07 PM, I Erbs wrote: > The www.healey.org site used to have a great section on colors for > specific models and combinations. > Have not been able to locate it. please send me a link to this info. We are > taking my car down to bare metal and my wife and I want to check out the > paint schemes. > > Thanks > > -- > I Erbs > Portland, OR > -- I Erbs Portland, OR From glemon at neb.rr.com Tue Dec 15 22:32:11 2009 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 23:32:11 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] original color combos In-Reply-To: <173126440912152007s29e8c385scdad1a5c249810e7@mail.gmail.com> References: <173126440912152007s29e8c385scdad1a5c249810e7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I liked that site too, is this what you wanted? http://www.austinhealey.com/big.html Greg Lemon From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 16 04:51:10 2009 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 06:51:10 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Speaking of tire Pressure Message-ID: <000a01ca7e46$0ffd00d0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> I have 3 pressure gauges that give me 3 different figures. Which one is correct? If air pressure is so important wouldn't you think that some one would make a gauge that gives a correct reading. And how do we really know what is correct? Mark From dcongleton at embarqmail.com Wed Dec 16 05:31:00 2009 From: dcongleton at embarqmail.com (Dallas Congleton) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 07:31:00 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Speaking of tire Pressure References: <000a01ca7e46$0ffd00d0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: <99EC7DFB4CEA440F9314584079DA6749@your4dacd0ea75> "I have 3 pressure gauges that give me 3 different figures. Which one is correct? " Neither ;^) or is it the left one ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark LaPierre" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 6:51 AM Subject: [Healeys] Speaking of tire Pressure >> > If air pressure is so important wouldn't you think that some one would > make a > gauge > that gives a correct reading. And how do we really know what is correct? > > Mark From j.aeckerlin at gmail.com Wed Dec 16 05:38:01 2009 From: j.aeckerlin at gmail.com (Jaap Aeckerlin) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 13:38:01 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Speaking of tire Pressure In-Reply-To: <000a01ca7e46$0ffd00d0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> References: <000a01ca7e46$0ffd00d0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: <4e23c7250912160438yacf6ea8oa701e604879ae4e7@mail.gmail.com> Mark, go to a professional tyre center and ask them to measure the pressure of one of your tyres. Then get your three gauges out and measure as well. Throw away the two gauges that are furthest out (or all three if they are all three hopeless and buy a good one). Generally speaking it is not so much the absolute value of your tyre pressure, it is far more important that both front/rear tyres have the same pressure. Jack Aeckerlin, The Netherlands 1964 BJ8 29432 2009/12/16 Mark LaPierre > I have 3 pressure gauges that give me 3 different figures. Which one is > correct? > > If air pressure is so important wouldn't you think that some one would make > a > gauge > that gives a correct reading. And how do we really know what is correct? > > Mark > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as j.aeckerlin at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From grday at btinternet.com Wed Dec 16 05:54:22 2009 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 12:54:22 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Speaking of tire Pressure References: <000a01ca7e46$0ffd00d0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: <3A1B837CB2EB4586B3D65C9C7143A7B9@user8634b3d69b> The right (starboard or offside) one. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark LaPierre" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 11:51 AM Subject: [Healeys] Speaking of tire Pressure >I have 3 pressure gauges that give me 3 different figures. Which one is > correct? > > If air pressure is so important wouldn't you think that some one would > make a > gauge > that gives a correct reading. And how do we really know what is correct? > > Mark > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as grday at btinternet.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From austin.healey at gmail.com Wed Dec 16 06:06:14 2009 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 00:06:14 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Speaking of tire Pressure In-Reply-To: <000a01ca7e46$0ffd00d0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> References: <000a01ca7e46$0ffd00d0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: <1833EC24-B955-4AD0-A3A8-494B4A420578@gmail.com> The correct tyre pressure for your car is easy to calculate. And it's fun.... Assuming radials, start with 34 lbs all round. Cold. At night. When you haven't driven the car for 12 hours or more. Next morning, on a warm day (that's almost any day in Australia!! - you Americans/ Brits may need to wait a few months...), find your favourite stretch of road, and drive vigorously. Then drive to a nearby old style shopping centre carpark/ school carpark (on a weekend) and do a few figure 8s at a reasonable speed (without being a complete hoon.....) Jump out and measure your tyre pressure when your Tyres are the hotest You are looking for a 3- 4 lb increase, and a max hot tyre pressure on road radials of around 38- 40. If they are say 40 at the front, and say 38 at the rear, write it down and go home. Next day (12 hrs cold) make the fronts say 36 (from 34 cold, 40 hot) and rears can stay the same (34 cold, 38 hot) Best part - do it all again! Enjoy your Healey!! See what the pressure is after you've done it all again, and as long as you see a 3- 4 lb increase, with Tyres at full max temp, you have the right tyre pressure for your car.... If you started at e.g. 30, you'd possibly still end at 40 or maybe more. You need more air to start with... You can get all carried away with tyre pyrometers. And spend a day at a track. Ive done all that. The results generally aren't much different, the pyrometer just tells you more, e.g. heat across the face of the tyre which e.g. helps with e.g. Camber adjustment and contact patch stuff. Which isn't easy to adjust. But for most of you guys, just looking for some guidance on road radials, this method is pretty damn close. And yes, the manual is talking about bias ply tyres. Not modern radials. If this is all to compIex, start at 36 front and 34 rear on the road. Higher pressure in the end which slides first. But I've never owned an oversteering Healey.... Unless I want it to... And yes, tyres. Not tires. Read the manual. Guage isn't that relevant, it's the increase/ cold/ hot pressure relativity you need to focus on. ;-) Chris www.myaustinhealey.com On 16/12/2009, at 10:51 PM, "Mark LaPierre" wrote: > I have 3 pressure gauges that give me 3 different figures. Which > one is > correct? From amalin at mac.com Wed Dec 16 06:29:16 2009 From: amalin at mac.com (Al Malin) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 08:29:16 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Speaking of tire Pressure In-Reply-To: <000a01ca7e46$0ffd00d0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> References: <000a01ca7e46$0ffd00d0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: Confucius say: "Man with one watch knows what time it is. Man with two watches not sure." Al Malin On Dec 16, 2009, at 6:51 AM, Mark LaPierre wrote: > I have 3 pressure gauges that give me 3 different figures. Which > one is > correct? > > If air pressure is so important wouldn't you think that some one > would make a > gauge > that gives a correct reading. And how do we really know what is > correct? > > Mark > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as amalin at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From coudesluijs at chello.nl Wed Dec 16 06:29:28 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 14:29:28 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Speaking of tire Pressure In-Reply-To: <000a01ca7e46$0ffd00d0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> References: <000a01ca7e46$0ffd00d0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: <4B28E0B8.5080107@chello.nl> Mark, Consumer research showed more often than once that tire gauges mostly are very inaccurate, independent of the price you pay for them. Your best bet is to get a digital one, The digital gauges from Michelin are reasonably accurate as are the mechanical ones from Hella and VDO. At the fuel pump go for a station with a new(ish) digital air pump/gauge, for some you may have to pay. These are nearly always spot on. These can be used to roughly check your own gauge. At least that is the situation over here. The worst ones are the very impressive ones that you get in a set together with an airblaster, paint sprayer and other pneumatic tools. They are usually included in compressor packages. They can be downright dangerous as they often indicate a much higher pressure than actually there, leading to serious under inflation. Also absolutely useless are most gauges on footpumps and mini compressors that run of your battery. Over inflation on radials is not so much of a problem, it causes a harsh ride and in some cases excessive wear in the middle of the thread. In diagonal tires this is much more obvious. Under inflation is problem, it will cause overheating, which can lead to lethal thread separation, and excessive wear on the outside of the thread. Under inflation leads to serious braking and handling problems. Kees Oudesluijs NL Mark LaPierre schreef: > I have 3 pressure gauges that give me 3 different figures. Which one is > correct? > > If air pressure is so important wouldn't you think that some one would make a > gauge > that gives a correct reading. And how do we really know what is correct? > > Mark > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive From grday at btinternet.com Wed Dec 16 06:44:58 2009 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 13:44:58 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Tire Pressure References: <000a01ca7e46$0ffd00d0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> <4e23c7250912160438yacf6ea8oa701e604879ae4e7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: As no-one has come up with definitive tyre pressures - the MG Midget Mk III 1967 handbook says:- Wheel size: disc 3.5Dx13; wire 4Jxl3 5.20x13 Tyre size and type Dunlop C41 Gold Seal (Nylon) Tubeless 5.20x13 SP 41 - Tubed Radial (still a stiffish one) Tyre pressures (set cold): Normal . . . . Heavy duty . . . . SP41 Front . . . . . 19 psi . . . . . . 22 psi Rear . . . . . 20 psi . . . . . . 24psi For sustained speed in excess of 80-85mph Front . . . . . 22 psi . . . . . . 22 psi Rear . . . . . 24 psi . . . . . . 24psi Haynes Workshop Manual states: Crossply . . . . . . Front . . . . . . . Rear Normal driving . 18psi 20psi Max load . . . . . 18psi 24psi High Speed . . . . 22psi 28psi Radial . . . . . . . . . Front . . . . . . . Rear Normal driving . 22psi 24psi Max load . . . . . 22psi 26psi High Speed . . . . 28psi 30psi Mine ran normally at 28front / 30rear, upping to 30f/30r for a lightweight fast run and 32f/34r for a loaded run. My tyre pressure gauge was bought certified and was checked around 3 years ago and was still correct. (I should have it checked again.) Wear was even across the tread. Guy R Day From aon.912808691 at aon.at Wed Dec 16 06:46:42 2009 From: aon.912808691 at aon.at (Reinhart Rosner (aon)) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 14:46:42 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Speaking of tire Pressure In-Reply-To: <1833EC24-B955-4AD0-A3A8-494B4A420578@gmail.com> References: <000a01ca7e46$0ffd00d0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> <1833EC24-B955-4AD0-A3A8-494B4A420578@gmail.com> Message-ID: Chris, I will have to wait half a year too ;) The 34 and 36 is meant for your 3000? How about the 100? In the manual it says front 20, rear 23 PSI. Probably wrong too, any suggestions? Reinhart Reinhart Rosner 55 AH 100 BN1 Vienna - Austria -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Chris Dimmock Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. Dezember 2009 14:06 An: Mark LaPierre Cc: Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Speaking of tire Pressure The correct tyre pressure for your car is easy to calculate. And it's fun.... Assuming radials, start with 34 lbs all round. Cold. At night. When you haven't driven the car for 12 hours or more. Next morning, on a warm day (that's almost any day in Australia!! - you Americans/ Brits may need to wait a few months...), find your favourite stretch of road, and drive vigorously. Then drive to a nearby old style shopping centre carpark/ school carpark (on a weekend) and do a few figure 8s at a reasonable speed (without being a complete hoon.....) Jump out and measure your tyre pressure when your Tyres are the hotest You are looking for a 3- 4 lb increase, and a max hot tyre pressure on road radials of around 38- 40. If they are say 40 at the front, and say 38 at the rear, write it down and go home. Next day (12 hrs cold) make the fronts say 36 (from 34 cold, 40 hot) and rears can stay the same (34 cold, 38 hot) Best part - do it all again! Enjoy your Healey!! See what the pressure is after you've done it all again, and as long as you see a 3- 4 lb increase, with Tyres at full max temp, you have the right tyre pressure for your car.... If you started at e.g. 30, you'd possibly still end at 40 or maybe more. You need more air to start with... You can get all carried away with tyre pyrometers. And spend a day at a track. Ive done all that. The results generally aren't much different, the pyrometer just tells you more, e.g. heat across the face of the tyre which e.g. helps with e.g. Camber adjustment and contact patch stuff. Which isn't easy to adjust. But for most of you guys, just looking for some guidance on road radials, this method is pretty damn close. And yes, the manual is talking about bias ply tyres. Not modern radials. If this is all to compIex, start at 36 front and 34 rear on the road. Higher pressure in the end which slides first. But I've never owned an oversteering Healey.... Unless I want it to... And yes, tyres. Not tires. Read the manual. Guage isn't that relevant, it's the increase/ cold/ hot pressure relativity you need to focus on. ;-) Chris www.myaustinhealey.com On 16/12/2009, at 10:51 PM, "Mark LaPierre" wrote: > I have 3 pressure gauges that give me 3 different figures. Which > one is > correct? Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as aon.912808691 at aon.at http://www.team.net/archive From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Dec 16 08:09:43 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:09:43 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Speaking of tire Pressure In-Reply-To: <000a01ca7e46$0ffd00d0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> References: <000a01ca7e46$0ffd00d0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: The one from the gauge that was made in Canada? Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada > From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net > > I have 3 pressure gauges that give me 3 different figures. Which one is > correct? > > Mark From austin.healey at gmail.com Wed Dec 16 08:22:40 2009 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 02:22:40 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Tire Pressure In-Reply-To: References: <000a01ca7e46$0ffd00d0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> <4e23c7250912160438yacf6ea8oa701e604879ae4e7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8BD3B5D6-9A17-466C-9201-EF930C209E08@gmail.com> Hi Guy, if I was using 'fresh' 40 plus year old technology tyres on a Healey, those factory manual settings would have been appropriate. Forget the manual, it's almost 2010. Your loaded run pressures are much closer on a spridget than the factory manual. The "max inflation pressure" guideline on the sidewall is a good general target to aim for hot. Usually around 37 - 40 psi hot. Usually 30 - 36 psi cold. As a rule of thumb. General guidance. No warranty implied or offered...... Ambient air temp affects this too. I'm basing my experience on living in Sydney, Australia, where we just don't experience the temperature variations in a year some of you guys do. But the again, if it's snowing, you probably aren't driving the Healey at 10 tenths anyway, are you? I'm talking summer/ nice Healey driving weather. ;-) Chris Sent from my iPhone On 17/12/2009, at 12:44 AM, "Guy R Day" wrote: > As no-one has come up with definitive tyre pressures - the MG Midget > Mk III 1967 handbook says:- > Wheel size: disc 3.5Dx13; wire 4Jxl3 5.20x13 > Tyre size and type Dunlop C41 Gold Seal (Nylon) Tubeless 5.20x13 > > SP 41 - Tubed Radial (still a stiffish > one) > > Tyre pressures (set cold): > > Normal . . . . Heavy duty . . . . SP41 > > Front . . . . . 19 psi . . . . . . 22 psi > > Rear . . . . . 20 psi . . . . . . 24psi > > For sustained speed in excess of 80-85mph > Front . . . . . 22 psi . . . . . . 22 psi > > Rear . . . . . 24 psi . . . . . . 24psi > > Haynes Workshop Manual states: > > Crossply . . . . . . Front . . . . . . . Rear > > Normal driving . 18psi 20psi > > Max load . . . . . 18psi 24psi > > High Speed . . . . 22psi 28psi > > Radial . . . . . . . . . Front . . . . . . . Rear > > Normal driving . 22psi 24psi > > Max load . . . . . 22psi 26psi > > High Speed . . . . 28psi 30psi > > Mine ran normally at 28front / 30rear, upping to 30f/30r for a > lightweight fast run and 32f/34r for a loaded run. From rdavies1 at cox.net Wed Dec 16 08:34:17 2009 From: rdavies1 at cox.net (Ron Davies) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 07:34:17 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Speaking of tire Pressure In-Reply-To: <000a01ca7e46$0ffd00d0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> References: <000a01ca7e46$0ffd00d0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: "42" Duh. From Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Don't Panic! Ron ------------------------------- I have 3 pressure gauges that give me 3 different figures. Which one is correct? From kentmclean at comcast.net Wed Dec 16 09:18:35 2009 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 11:18:35 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Speaking of tire Pressure In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B29085B.7000309@comcast.net> Mark LaPierre wrote: > I have 3 pressure gauges that give me 3 different figures. > Which one is correct? One answer can be find here, at the 2:33 mark. :) -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 From peter.svilans at rogers.com Wed Dec 16 11:22:33 2009 From: peter.svilans at rogers.com (Peter Svilans) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 13:22:33 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Tire Pressure Message-ID: <003201ca7e7c$bca62510$6401a8c0@9535DEE118EC44B> For what its worth: BMC Technical Bulletin # 1 F 29, for Feb.25, 1965, gives the following tire pressures in psi for the newly introduced Dunlop SP-41 radial tires : Model Front Rear Midget/ Sprite 22 24 MGB (normal motoring) 21 24 MGB (sustained high speeds) 27 31 Healey 3000 (normal motoring) 25 30 Healey 3000 (sustained high speeds) 30 35 The tire pressure on the sidewall has to do with the TIRE itself, its construction and materials, and is not a recommended "guideline" for running pressures on your particular car. Its the pressure at which it holds its maximum load (given in a coded load range), and is based on an industry standard for a particular tire size, not necessarily the tire's absolute maximum psi. Lots of info on this is available with a simple search. Best Peter From fredcrowley at teamhealeytexas.com Wed Dec 16 11:24:46 2009 From: fredcrowley at teamhealeytexas.com (Fred Crowley) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 12:24:46 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: 68 Sprite on eBay Message-ID: <988A2011C4894CD483ED8A18035DE381@FredLaptop> Does anyone know anything about this car? A friend of mine is interested. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Austin-Healey-Sprite-Convertible-1968-Austin-H ealey-Sprite-Green-FULLY-RESTORED_W0QQitemZ320460597774QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_ Cars_Trucks?hash=item4a9cf0aa0e Cheers, Fred Team Healey Texas From Healey100M at gmail.com Wed Dec 16 11:42:38 2009 From: Healey100M at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 13:42:38 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: 68 Sprite on eBay In-Reply-To: <988A2011C4894CD483ED8A18035DE381@FredLaptop> References: <988A2011C4894CD483ED8A18035DE381@FredLaptop> Message-ID: <3EA2DDA3-0C6E-404C-8849-AC9013F9099A@gmail.com> Don't know the car, but looking at the pictures of the underside and his statement "Fully restored, perfect condition!" I would walk away. Randy Randy Hicks www.austinhealey100m.com '56 100M '55 BN1 Dealer LeMans '62 BN7 MkII '65 BJ8 '53 MGTD Healey100M at gmail.com On Dec 16, 2009, at 1:24 PM, Fred Crowley wrote: > Does anyone know anything about this car? A friend of mine is interested. From bighealey3k at aim.com Wed Dec 16 13:15:45 2009 From: bighealey3k at aim.com (bighealey3k at aim.com) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:15:45 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Speaking of tire Pressure In-Reply-To: <000a01ca7e46$0ffd00d0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> References: <000a01ca7e46$0ffd00d0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: <8CC4CA3AF626934-21C0-947D@webmail-m076.sysops.aol.com> I also recommend a digital gauge and possibly switching over to nitrogen. Nitrogen doesn't react to temperature changes as much as regular air does. I'm assuming your using the old "stick" type pressure gauges. Larry '67 BJ8 -----Original Message----- From: Mark LaPierre To: healeys at Autox.Team.Net Sent: Wed, Dec 16, 2009 6:51 am Subject: [Healeys] Speaking of tire Pressure I have 3 pressure gauges that give me 3 different figures. Which one is orrect? If air pressure is so important wouldn't you think that some one would make a auge hat gives a correct reading. And how do we really know what is correct? Mark Healeys at autox.team.net ttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as bighealey3k at aim.com http://www.team.net/archive From eyera3 at gmail.com Wed Dec 16 13:22:38 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 12:22:38 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] healey ID tag on ebay Message-ID: <173126440912161222q713624f2qd23f2ca2e058bc1b@mail.gmail.com> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AUSTIN-HEALEY-3000-BT7-ID-TAG_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem4a9cf1eebcQQitemZ320460680892QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_500wt_1100 BT7 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AUSTIN-HEALEY-3000-BJ8-ID-TAG_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem4a9cf1f31bQQitemZ320460682011QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_500wt_1100 BJ8 tag anyone recognize the number? -- I Erbs Portland, OR From sbyers at ec.rr.com Wed Dec 16 14:12:27 2009 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:12:27 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] healey ID tag on ebay In-Reply-To: <173126440912161222q713624f2qd23f2ca2e058bc1b@mail.gmail.com> References: <173126440912161222q713624f2qd23f2ca2e058bc1b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <003901ca7e94$78aaf5d0$6a00e170$@rr.com> There is no record of HBJ8L/32871 in the BJ8 registry, although that's not surprising if it's true that the car was parted out 35 years ago. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA BJ8 tag anyone recognize the number? -- I Erbs Portland, OR From coudesluijs at chello.nl Wed Dec 16 14:15:36 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:15:36 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Speaking of tire Pressure In-Reply-To: <8CC4CA3AF626934-21C0-947D@webmail-m076.sysops.aol.com> References: <000a01ca7e46$0ffd00d0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> <8CC4CA3AF626934-21C0-947D@webmail-m076.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4B294DF8.3030401@chello.nl> Nitrogen is a hype just to earn garages some extra dough. Air consists of ca. 80% nitrogen. The rest is oxigen and a tiny bit of other gasses like Co2, CO, NxOy, O3 etc. Just check your tires every month using air. If clean and kept in their protective casing/bag/pouch many of the old stick type gauges are quite accurate, but I have not seen those in the shops for over 30 years. They were crude but rather effective. Much more accurate than most of the plastic dial type gauges. Kees Oudesluijs NL bighealey3k at aim.com schreef: > I also recommend a digital gauge and possibly switching over to nitrogen. > Nitrogen doesn't react to temperature changes as much as regular air does. > I'm assuming your using the old "stick" type pressure gauges. > > Larry > '67 BJ8 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark LaPierre > To: healeys at Autox.Team.Net > Sent: Wed, Dec 16, 2009 6:51 am > Subject: [Healeys] Speaking of tire Pressure > > > I have 3 pressure gauges that give me 3 different figures. Which one is > orrect? > If air pressure is so important wouldn't you think that some one would make a > auge > hat gives a correct reading. And how do we really know what is correct? > Mark > Healeys at autox.team.net > ttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > You are subscribed as bighealey3k at aim.com > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive From bluehealey at googlemail.com Wed Dec 16 14:25:52 2009 From: bluehealey at googlemail.com (Alan Bromfield) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:25:52 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] healey ID tag on ebay In-Reply-To: <003901ca7e94$78aaf5d0$6a00e170$@rr.com> References: <173126440912161222q713624f2qd23f2ca2e058bc1b@mail.gmail.com> <003901ca7e94$78aaf5d0$6a00e170$@rr.com> Message-ID: <40e0020d0912161325p49cebc77kbca629eeab78479e@mail.gmail.com> But I bet there is one now ready for the day that a 'Phoenix' car suddenly appears on the road. %^) 2009/12/16 BJ8 Healeys : > There is no record of HBJ8L/32871 in the BJ8 registry, although that's not > surprising if it's true that the car was parted out 35 years ago. > > Steve Byers > HBJ8L/36666 > BJ8 Registry > Havelock, NC USA -- ___________________________________________ (______________ Alan Bromfield _______________) (______ \____1957-BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) From bighealey at astound.net Wed Dec 16 14:46:07 2009 From: bighealey at astound.net (John Soderling) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 13:46:07 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Tires again Message-ID: <0FF37D9AA7274810B7C3383EFD4FD13C@Soderling> Yes, and in addition to excessive wear and poor handling, the excessive flex in the sidewalls will generate very high tire heat which can lead to tire failure. Vrooom, John ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Nock" To: "Peter Schauss" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Tires again > Those tire pressures were for the old bias Ply tires, if you run that > low of a pressure in a steel belted tire you will have excessive wear and > poor handeling/ > > On Dec 15, 2009, at 7:26 PM, Peter Schauss wrote: > >> I have always followed the recommendation in the owner's manual 25# in >> the >> front and 30# in the rear. When I got my new tires from Hendrix he >> recommended 30# on all four. I tried that, but the car did not hold the >> road as well so I dropped the fronts back to 25#. >> >> Peter Schauss >> 1963 BJ7 >> 1980 MGB From eyera3 at gmail.com Wed Dec 16 14:52:34 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 13:52:34 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] egine paint in a rattle can Message-ID: <173126440912161352g7afe0250v18a5dcc78031b206@mail.gmail.com> I honestly searched the archive, becasue I thought we went over this before... I need a supplier for engine paint 3000 MKI in a spray can. How many to repaint an engine and tranny with O/D? -- I Erbs Portland, OR From sbyers at ec.rr.com Wed Dec 16 15:15:01 2009 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:15:01 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] healey ID tag on ebay In-Reply-To: <40e0020d0912161325p49cebc77kbca629eeab78479e@mail.gmail.com> References: <173126440912161222q713624f2qd23f2ca2e058bc1b@mail.gmail.com> <003901ca7e94$78aaf5d0$6a00e170$@rr.com> <40e0020d0912161325p49cebc77kbca629eeab78479e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000b01ca7e9d$36817720$a3846560$@rr.com> Well, if another car turns up using the VIN HBJ8L/32871, at least it will be recognizable now as a "Phoenix". Happy Healeydays! Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: Alan Bromfield [mailto:bluehealey at googlemail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 4:26 PM To: BJ8 Healeys Cc: healey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] healey ID tag on ebay But I bet there is one now ready for the day that a 'Phoenix' car suddenly appears on the road. %^) 2009/12/16 BJ8 Healeys : > There is no record of HBJ8L/32871 in the BJ8 registry, although that's not > surprising if it's true that the car was parted out 35 years ago. > > Steve Byers > HBJ8L/36666 > BJ8 Registry > Havelock, NC USA From pennell at cox.net Wed Dec 16 15:17:20 2009 From: pennell at cox.net (pennell at cox.net) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:17:20 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Speaking of tire Pressure In-Reply-To: <8CC4CA3AF626934-21C0-947D@webmail-m076.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20091216171720.DPNQF.216666.imail@eastrmwml47> Larry, Does not react to T changes as much as regular air does? React to it in what way? Keith Pennell ---- bighealey3k at aim.com wrote: > I also recommend a digital gauge and possibly switching over to nitrogen. > Nitrogen doesn't react to temperature changes as much as regular air does. > I'm assuming your using the old "stick" type pressure gauges. > > Larry > '67 BJ8 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark LaPierre > To: healeys at Autox.Team.Net > Sent: Wed, Dec 16, 2009 6:51 am > Subject: [Healeys] Speaking of tire Pressure > > > I have 3 pressure gauges that give me 3 different figures. Which one is > orrect? > If air pressure is so important wouldn't you think that some one would make a > auge > hat gives a correct reading. And how do we really know what is correct? > Mark > Healeys at autox.team.net > ttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > You are subscribed as bighealey3k at aim.com > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as pennell at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From eyera3 at gmail.com Wed Dec 16 15:30:03 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 14:30:03 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Ok I found the paint at Moss Motors, but...... Message-ID: <173126440912161430wb16d311v47baeee87828d1a0@mail.gmail.com> 17.50 a can, less local 10% purchase, so how many cans will I need fro engine and tranny? -- I Erbs Portland, OR From dewolfe at firstam.com Wed Dec 16 15:42:37 2009 From: dewolfe at firstam.com (Wolfe, Dennis) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 14:42:37 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Garage lift Message-ID: <2B5EBC9467003642BF9286530F11953934A640@TINCSNA09VXCH01.corp.firstam.com> I'm looking to purchase an electric car lift for my home garage to allow me to store my BJ8 above one of my other cars. Any tips as to features or manufacturers I should look for? Thanks, Dennis Wolfe '66 MKIII ****************************************************************************************** This message may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the use of the addressee(s) named above or may contain information that is legally privileged. 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Thank you. ****************************************************************************************** FACLD From jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com Wed Dec 16 15:46:36 2009 From: jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com (jerry wall) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:46:36 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] egine paint in a rattle can In-Reply-To: <173126440912161352g7afe0250v18a5dcc78031b206@mail.gmail.com> References: <173126440912161352g7afe0250v18a5dcc78031b206@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9baa446a0912161446o7650359ex5b976da3963b3f51@mail.gmail.com> more than 1, less than 2, so you'll need 2. cheers, On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 3:52 PM, I Erbs wrote: > I honestly searched the archive, becasue I thought we went over this > before... > I need a supplier for engine paint 3000 MKI in a spray can. How many to > repaint an engine and tranny with O/D? > > -- > I Erbs > Portland, OR > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- jerry wall BN6 rowlett, tx From jhomonek at mindspring.com Wed Dec 16 16:02:53 2009 From: jhomonek at mindspring.com (John H) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:02:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Healeys] Garage lift Message-ID: <9095226.1261004573724.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Dennis, I have the 4 post, 110volt lift from American Automotive Products. It lifts up to 8000 lbs. I like it cause you don't have to bolt it down. It came with castors for some movement, if needed. Also came with drip pans and jacking tray. Because of the 110v setup, it is a bit slow going up but no special wiring was required. It took about 4 hours to assemble and set up. It has served me and my Healey buddies well for years. See link: http://www.americanautomotiveequipment.com/ They do run specials from time to time too! No fincial interest, just a satisfied customer. John Homonek 1959 BN7 - 1974 Jensen Healey -----Original Message----- >From: "Wolfe, Dennis" >Sent: Dec 16, 2009 5:42 PM >To: healeys at autox.team.net >Subject: [Healeys] Garage lift > >I'm looking to purchase an electric car lift for my home garage to allow me to store my BJ8 above one of my other cars. >Any tips as to features or manufacturers I should look for? >Thanks, >Dennis Wolfe >'66 MKIII >****************************************************************************************** >This message may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the use of the >addressee(s) named above or may contain information that is legally privileged. 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If you have received this message by mistake, please immediately notify us by >replying to the message and delete the original message and any copies immediately thereafter. > >Thank you. >****************************************************************************************** >FACLD >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >Healeys at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > >You are subscribed as jhomonek at mindspring.com > >http://www.team.net/archive From healeyrick at yahoo.com Wed Dec 16 16:04:36 2009 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:04:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] healey ID tag on ebay In-Reply-To: <000b01ca7e9d$36817720$a3846560$@rr.com> Message-ID: <484676.78188.qm@web51407.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Same buyer paid $100 each for the ID plates. Someone must really LOVE old Brit pieces of stamped metal ;>) Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Wed, 12/16/09, BJ8 Healeys wrote: From: BJ8 Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] healey ID tag on ebay To: "'healey help'" Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 5:15 PM Well, if another car turns up using the VIN HBJ8L/32871, at least it will be recognizable now as a "Phoenix". Happy Healeydays! Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: Alan Bromfield [mailto:bluehealey at googlemail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 4:26 PM To: BJ8 Healeys Cc: healey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] healey ID tag on ebay But I bet there is one now ready for the day that a 'Phoenix' car suddenly appears on the road. %^) 2009/12/16 BJ8 Healeys : > There is no record of HBJ8L/32871 in the BJ8 registry, although that's not > surprising if it's true that the car was parted out 35 years ago. > > Steve Byers > HBJ8L/36666 > BJ8 Registry > Havelock, NC USA Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive From richard.ewald at gmail.com Wed Dec 16 16:09:36 2009 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:09:36 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Speaking of tire Pressure In-Reply-To: <20091216171720.DPNQF.216666.imail@eastrmwml47> References: <20091216171720.DPNQF.216666.imail@eastrmwml47> Message-ID: Since good old air is almost 80% N2, I would venture to guess the thermal expansion of N2 and air are very similar. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 16, 2009, at 14:17, wrote: > Larry, > > Does not react to T changes as much as regular air does? React to > it in what way? > > Keith Pennell > > ---- bighealey3k at aim.com wrote: >> I also recommend a digital gauge and possibly switching over to >> nitrogen. >> Nitrogen doesn't react to temperature changes as much as regular >> air does. >> I'm assuming your using the old "stick" type pressure gauges. >> >> Larry >> '67 BJ8 >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mark LaPierre >> To: healeys at Autox.Team.Net >> Sent: Wed, Dec 16, 2009 6:51 am >> Subject: [Healeys] Speaking of tire Pressure >> >> >> I have 3 pressure gauges that give me 3 different figures. Which >> one is >> orrect? >> If air pressure is so important wouldn't you think that some one >> would make a >> auge >> hat gives a correct reading. And how do we really know what is >> correct? >> Mark >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> ttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> You are subscribed as bighealey3k at aim.com >> http://www.team.net/archive >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as pennell at cox.net >> >> http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richard.ewald at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 16 16:11:37 2009 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:11:37 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Top Bows Wanted In-Reply-To: <1F9E9BD9B6E54AA996DB0010C85E507A@Edscomputer> References: <1F9E9BD9B6E54AA996DB0010C85E507A@Edscomputer> Message-ID: <853F0573-1CB7-49BB-847F-6E7634852F2C@sbcglobal.net> The early top frames are very hard to find used that have not been mangled. I do have a couple of used ones but they are bent up I have one good used one and they also are available new. We also have the rollers available new. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Dec 15, 2009, at 10:18 AM, Ed Woods wrote: > List, > > I'm looking for top bows for an early BN4, the type that are > "permanently" attached to the car and have some sort of sliding > mechanism incorporated in their action. > > Please reply off list. > > Ed Woods _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From eyera3 at gmail.com Wed Dec 16 16:17:34 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:17:34 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] healey ID tag on ebay In-Reply-To: <484676.78188.qm@web51407.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <000b01ca7e9d$36817720$a3846560$@rr.com> <484676.78188.qm@web51407.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <173126440912161517y1dcf8748j1e9256bcd7fb74cf@mail.gmail.com> Or they too shall raise again in new bodies or hot cars..... On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 3:04 PM, HealeyRick wrote: > Same buyer paid $100 each for the ID plates. Someone must really LOVE old > Brit pieces of stamped metal ;>) > > Rick > > > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > > --- On Wed, 12/16/09, BJ8 Healeys wrote: > > From: BJ8 Healeys > Subject: Re: [Healeys] healey ID tag on ebay > To: "'healey help'" > Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 5:15 PM > > Well, if another car turns up using the VIN HBJ8L/32871, at least it will > be > recognizable now as a "Phoenix". > > Happy Healeydays! > Steve Byers > HBJ8L/36666 > BJ8 Registry > Havelock, NC USA > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alan Bromfield [mailto:bluehealey at googlemail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 4:26 PM > To: BJ8 Healeys > Cc: healey help > Subject: Re: [Healeys] healey ID tag on ebay > > But I bet there is one now ready for the day that a 'Phoenix' car > suddenly appears on the road. > %^) > > 2009/12/16 BJ8 Healeys : > > There is no record of HBJ8L/32871 in the BJ8 registry, although that's > not > > surprising if it's true that the car was parted out 35 years ago. > > > > Steve Byers > > HBJ8L/36666 > > BJ8 Registry > > Havelock, NC USA > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- I Erbs Portland, OR From david at dleong.org Wed Dec 16 16:24:53 2009 From: david at dleong.org (David Leong) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:24:53 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Speaking of tire Pressure In-Reply-To: References: <20091216171720.DPNQF.216666.imail@eastrmwml47> Message-ID: <003801ca7ea6$f9208790$eb6196b0$@org> The advantage of N2 is that it comes from a tank. Air from an N2 tank is dry. Ambient air has a lot of moisture. If you could provide regular air at 0% humidity, it would be just as good. It is the moisture that affects the predictability of how the tires behave with temperature, but I doubt anyone not in a racing environment would ever notice. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Richard Ewald Since good old air is almost 80% N2, I would venture to guess the thermal expansion of N2 and air are very similar. On Dec 16, 2009, at 14:17, wrote: > Larry, > > Does not react to T changes as much as regular air does? React to > it in what way? > > Keith Pennell > > ---- bighealey3k at aim.com wrote: >> I also recommend a digital gauge and possibly switching over to >> nitrogen. >> Nitrogen doesn't react to temperature changes as much as regular >> air does. >> I'm assuming your using the old "stick" type pressure gauges. >> >> Larry >> '67 BJ8 From rchaskell at earthlink.net Wed Dec 16 16:31:04 2009 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:31:04 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Garage lift In-Reply-To: <2B5EBC9467003642BF9286530F11953934A640@TINCSNA09VXCH01.corp.firstam.com> References: <2B5EBC9467003642BF9286530F11953934A640@TINCSNA09VXCH01.corp.firstam.com> Message-ID: <4B296DB8.20009@earthlink.net> Dennis, I own two. Bought one from Greg Smith Equipment (http://www.gregsmithequipment.com/). Nice folks to deal with and one of their showrooms is local. Bought the other one from Super Lifts (http://www.superlifts.com). Like the lift - I can walk underneath it (6'9") but I could never get a straight answer as to when it would ship. Keep in mind that the Healeys aren't very wide, so be sure that the lift's main tracks/rails are close enough together. Bob Wolfe, Dennis wrote: > I'm looking to purchase an electric car lift for my home garage to allow me to store my BJ8 above one of my other cars. > Any tips as to features or manufacturers I should look for? > Thanks, > Dennis Wolfe > '66 MKIII From abraund at siue.edu Wed Dec 16 16:35:00 2009 From: abraund at siue.edu (Dr. B) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:35:00 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Tire Pressure Message-ID: <4B296EA4.5080205@siue.edu> Rather than make unsubstantiated statements, "Nitrogen doesn't react to temperature changes ..." maybe we should look at the scientific data. From the Handbook of Chemistry and Physics the thermal coefficient of expansion for Air is 0.0036728 while for Nitrogen it is 0.003673. These numbers refer to the change in volume per unit volume per degree Celsius temperature change. So for a volume of 10 lites (Air vs Nitrogen) undergoing a temperature change of 10 C the change in volume is 0.36728 liters for Air and 0.36730 liters for Nitrogen. Thus, the statement that Nitrogen doesn't react to temperature changes as much as air is false. And claims by tire manufactures or sellers is just that claims, not facts. Bad science is just like bad math - BAD! Art Braundmeier BJ8/43199 -- Plagiarism is an academic crime, punishable by academic death. ---Tommy Lee Jones as Marshall Sharpe in Man of the House From rchaskell at earthlink.net Wed Dec 16 16:41:50 2009 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:41:50 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Speaking of tire Pressure In-Reply-To: References: <20091216171720.DPNQF.216666.imail@eastrmwml47> Message-ID: <4B29703E.3070800@earthlink.net> The idea behind using Nitrogen is that it's dry. Doesn't have the humidity/moisture/water that air does. From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Wed Dec 16 16:46:51 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:46:51 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] healey ID tag on ebay In-Reply-To: <173126440912161517y1dcf8748j1e9256bcd7fb74cf@mail.gmail.com> References: <000b01ca7e9d$36817720$a3846560$@rr.com> <484676.78188.qm@web51407.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <173126440912161517y1dcf8748j1e9256bcd7fb74cf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: O.K., let me end all this speculation. I told a Healey restorer friend of mine about the tags and he bought them both with the "buy it now" option. Don't be surprised if you see them at RM or Barret Jackson sometime in the future with a Heritage certificate and looking just like the car that they were on originally. I think I would rather see a Healey resurrected from an ID plate in it's original form than just to disappear completely. And trust me, this guy is a top notch restorer so maybe it will be a pheonix after all. Mike MacLean 56 BN2 60 AN5 On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 3:17 PM, I Erbs wrote: > Or they too shall raise again in new bodies or hot cars..... > > On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 3:04 PM, HealeyRick wrote: > > > Same buyer paid $100 each for the ID plates. Someone must really LOVE > old > > Brit pieces of stamped metal ;>) > > > > Rick > > > > > > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > > > > --- On Wed, 12/16/09, BJ8 Healeys wrote: > > > > From: BJ8 Healeys > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] healey ID tag on ebay > > To: "'healey help'" > > Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 5:15 PM > > > > Well, if another car turns up using the VIN HBJ8L/32871, at least it will > > be > > recognizable now as a "Phoenix". > > > > Happy Healeydays! > > Steve Byers > > HBJ8L/36666 > > BJ8 Registry > > Havelock, NC USA > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Alan Bromfield [mailto:bluehealey at googlemail.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 4:26 PM > > To: BJ8 Healeys > > Cc: healey help > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] healey ID tag on ebay > > > > But I bet there is one now ready for the day that a 'Phoenix' car > > suddenly appears on the road. > > %^) > > > > 2009/12/16 BJ8 Healeys : > > > There is no record of HBJ8L/32871 in the BJ8 registry, although that's > > not > > > surprising if it's true that the car was parted out 35 years ago. > > > > > > Steve Byers > > > HBJ8L/36666 > > > BJ8 Registry > > > Havelock, NC USA > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > > > -- > I Erbs > Portland, OR > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From richard.ewald at gmail.com Wed Dec 16 16:47:09 2009 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:47:09 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Speaking of tire Pressure In-Reply-To: <003801ca7ea6$f9208790$eb6196b0$@org> References: <20091216171720.DPNQF.216666.imail@eastrmwml47> <003801ca7ea6$f9208790$eb6196b0$@org> Message-ID: I don't know about anybody else, but I have a filter drier on the outlet of my compressor. While it might not be quite as dry as tanked N2, it will be drier than ambient air. R On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 3:24 PM, David Leong wrote: > The advantage of N2 is that it comes from a tank. > > Air from an N2 tank is dry. Ambient air has a lot of moisture. If you could > provide regular air at 0% humidity, it would be just as good. > > It is the moisture that affects the predictability of how the tires behave > with temperature, but I doubt anyone not in a racing environment would ever > notice. > > > > Dave From peter.svilans at rogers.com Wed Dec 16 16:53:42 2009 From: peter.svilans at rogers.com (Peter Svilans) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:53:42 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Tire Pressure Message-ID: <007b01ca7eaa$ff53e9f0$6401a8c0@9535DEE118EC44B> I'm just trying to picture someone banging and clattering down a potholey gravel road in his fifty-year old solid rear axle Healey with an inch of play in the steering wheel, all the time thinking "Hmmm, I'd better adjust the humidity levels for the air in my tires..." From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Wed Dec 16 16:56:28 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:56:28 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Garage lift In-Reply-To: <4B296DB8.20009@earthlink.net> References: <2B5EBC9467003642BF9286530F11953934A640@TINCSNA09VXCH01.corp.firstam.com> <4B296DB8.20009@earthlink.net> Message-ID: I have the Greg Smith Equipment lift in my garage. My garage is the normal 2 car 8 foot ceiling type and it fits just fine. My Bugeye will fit on the runners with the 170/70R13 tires so the inner wall is just flush with the inside edge of the runners. Have to be very careful driving it on, but with the Bugeye on top with it's windscreen up between the 2X4 rafters, the limiting factor is the garage door. The door, when open, is located just over the rear deck of the Bugeye. I can lift it up just high enough over one of the detent blocks welded in the upright to let it back down to safely "lock" it at that heighth and the BN2 will slip under it with the windscreen folded back. Not bad for a 8' ceiling, but I cannot get any of my other cars to go up high enough to do anything other than get under them with a creeper due to the garage door limitation. If you have a higher ceiling your possibilities of servicing any vehicle are much better. Mike MacLean 56 BN2 69 AN5 On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Bob Haskell wrote: > Dennis, > > I own two. Bought one from Greg Smith Equipment ( > http://www.gregsmithequipment.com/). Nice folks to deal with and one of > their showrooms is local. Bought the other one from Super Lifts ( > http://www.superlifts.com). Like the lift - I can walk underneath it > (6'9") but I could never get a straight answer as to when it would ship. > > Keep in mind that the Healeys aren't very wide, so be sure that the lift's > main tracks/rails are close enough together. > > Bob > > Wolfe, Dennis wrote: > >> I'm looking to purchase an electric car lift for my home garage to allow >> me to store my BJ8 above one of my other cars. Any tips as to features or >> manufacturers I should look for? >> Thanks, >> Dennis Wolfe >> '66 MKIII From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 16 17:05:59 2009 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 19:05:59 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] egine paint in a rattle can References: <173126440912161352g7afe0250v18a5dcc78031b206@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <004c01ca7eac$b6e005d0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> You may already have your answer but the Bill Hirsch Auto Products carrys the Healey Green Engine paint. Qts.or Aerosol can. I paid 31.00 plus 9.00 ship in 2004 for a Qt. www.hirschauto.com It looks good and will stick well even to a lightly rusted block. I had my Qt. broken down into 2 cans by a local paint shop and that was plenty and I have plenty left over in the Qt. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "I Erbs" To: "healey help" Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 4:52 PM Subject: [Healeys] egine paint in a rattle can > I honestly searched the archive, becasue I thought we went over this > before... > I need a supplier for engine paint 3000 MKI in a spray can. How many to > repaint an engine and tranny with O/D? > > -- > I Erbs > Portland, OR > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as lapierrem at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From bspidell at comcast.net Wed Dec 16 17:13:33 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 00:13:33 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] healey ID tag on ebay In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1947309626.279091261008813785.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Won't that be problematic if the car has previously been 'officially' scrapped? bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA O.K., let me end all this speculation. I told a Healey restorer friend of mine about the tags and he bought them both with the "buy it now" option. Don't be surprised if you see them at RM or Barret Jackson sometime in the future with a Heritage certificate and looking just like the car that they were on originally. I think I would rather see a Healey resurrected from an ID plate in it's original form than just to disappear completely. And trust me, this guy is a top notch restorer so maybe it will be a pheonix after all. Mike MacLean 56 BN2 60 AN5 From rdavies1 at cox.net Wed Dec 16 17:13:46 2009 From: rdavies1 at cox.net (Ron Davies) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:13:46 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Garage lift In-Reply-To: <2B5EBC9467003642BF9286530F11953934A640@TINCSNA09VXCH01.corp.firstam.com> References: <2B5EBC9467003642BF9286530F11953934A640@TINCSNA09VXCH01.corp.firstam.com> Message-ID: Dennis: Based upon my 67 BJ8, I'd get a lift with a solid floor with sides like a turkey basting pan or your car underneath will be covered in various fluids :-) Ron --------------------------- I'm looking to purchase an electric car lift for my home garage to allow me to store my BJ8 above one of my other cars. Any tips as to features or manufacturers I should look for? Thanks, Dennis Wolfe '66 MKIII From richard.ewald at gmail.com Wed Dec 16 17:15:01 2009 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:15:01 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Tire Pressure In-Reply-To: <007b01ca7eaa$ff53e9f0$6401a8c0@9535DEE118EC44B> References: <007b01ca7eaa$ff53e9f0$6401a8c0@9535DEE118EC44B> Message-ID: Nigel Shiftright is that you? On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Peter Svilans wrote: > I'm just trying to picture someone banging and clattering down a potholey > gravel road in his fifty-year old solid rear axle Healey with an inch of > play > in the steering wheel, all the time thinking "Hmmm, I'd better adjust the > humidity levels for the air in my tires..." > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richard.ewald at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From glemon at neb.rr.com Wed Dec 16 17:23:26 2009 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:23:26 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Tire Pressure In-Reply-To: <007b01ca7eaa$ff53e9f0$6401a8c0@9535DEE118EC44B> References: <007b01ca7eaa$ff53e9f0$6401a8c0@9535DEE118EC44B> Message-ID: <9BC3306E9A7445F7878C8123C2A5E7FF@GregPC> My reading and understanding the primmary benefit of nitrogen is that the molecules are bigger than oxygen molecules, so you get much less microscopic "seepage" and pressure stays up longer, maybe not as big a deal to those of us with a garage full of tools and the ability and inclination to use them, but for the drive it and only look at it when something goes wrong person with a modern car maybe a good thing. Secondly, no oxygen no internal oxydation of the tires/wheels, don't know if this is that big an issue. Lastly, I agree with Peter, don;t think most people will notice a differnce in driving or performance or tire life/wear. Greg Lemon From qualitas.jack at gmail.com Wed Dec 16 17:23:45 2009 From: qualitas.jack at gmail.com (Jack Feldman) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:23:45 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Tire Pressure Message-ID: <48720d20912161623w8380bfei961bb46a36c8b4c2@mail.gmail.com> No one has mentioned that changing the front /rear ration changes the handling characteristics. This was needed on two of my cars with serious over steer. One was a short wheelbase Post Office Jeep, and the other my MGC, whose handling characteristics are poor at best. For both of them I had to have higher pressure in the front than in the rear. Same goes if you want quicker steering. You put more pressure in the rear tires. Note that in the pressure chart, there is a front/rear ratio, not the same pressure all 'round. Is anyone an expert on this? It probably could use a better explanation. Jack From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Wed Dec 16 17:28:14 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:28:14 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] healey ID tag on ebay In-Reply-To: <1947309626.279091261008813785.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1947309626.279091261008813785.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: It has been off the DMV rolls for 35 years. There has been no record of it all that time. Since DMVs in the US have been computerized, any record that old no longer exists. I see no problem and it won't be the first time he has done this. ALL the restorers that sell at auction do this. How many big Healey project cars do you think are left any way? The endless supply by Tanner and others has to come from somewhere. A restorer looking for a higher profit margin takes this route all the time and sells it to the kind of buyer you see at the auctions that knows nothing of Healeys, except it is a pretty, shiny car his young girlfriend wants. After they figure out the kind of work it takes to keep a car like this running, it goes back on the market, hopefully to someone that can appreciate and for a better price. Mike MacLean 56 BN2 60 AN5 On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: > Won't that be problematic if the car has previously been 'officially' > scrapped? > > > bs > > -------------------------------- > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > > > > > O.K., let me end all this speculation. I told a Healey restorer friend of > mine about the tags and he bought them both with the "buy it now" option. > Don't be surprised if you see them at RM or Barret Jackson sometime in the > future with a Heritage certificate and looking just like the car that they > were on originally. I think I would rather see a Healey resurrected from > an > ID plate in it's original form than just to disappear completely. And > trust > me, this guy is a top notch restorer so maybe it will be a pheonix after > all. > Mike MacLean > 56 BN2 > 60 AN5 From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Wed Dec 16 17:31:07 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:31:07 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Garage lift In-Reply-To: References: <2B5EBC9467003642BF9286530F11953934A640@TINCSNA09VXCH01.corp.firstam.com> Message-ID: Most of the lifts come with a plastic drip tray that slides under the offending area of the upper car on the horizontal lips at the bottom of the runners. I bought two extra trays with my lift and it covers the entire length of my Bugeye and then some. Mike MacLean 56 BN2 60 AN5 On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Ron Davies wrote: > Dennis: > Based upon my 67 BJ8, I'd get a lift with a solid floor with sides like a > turkey basting pan or your car underneath will be covered in various fluids > :-) > Ron > --------------------------- > I'm looking to purchase an electric car lift for my home garage to allow me > to store my BJ8 above one of my other cars. > Any tips as to features or manufacturers I should look for? > Thanks, > Dennis Wolfe > '66 MKIII > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From healeyron at yahoo.com Wed Dec 16 17:51:59 2009 From: healeyron at yahoo.com (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:51:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Dual Brake System Message-ID: <826263.2224.qm@web32906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> While attending Encounter this year I had a leaking Rear Wheel Cylinder cause a complete Brake Failure while backing out of a downhill parking place at the Hotel. The result was $4700 damage to the rear of my MkII BN7 caused by the Stone Wall that didn't move when I hit it. I know the first thing your going to reply is why I didn't use the Parking Brake to stop before hitting the wall. I was in the process of doing that when the impact occurred. I'm contemplating converting to a Dual Brake system. My question is has any one on this list knowledge of a proper dia. and stroke Master Cylinder that will function on a Healey with Manual Disc Brake Fronts and Drum Brake Rears? I did see a Healey at Encounter in 2008 that had converted to a Dual System but wasn't able to find the owner to enquire as to the source for his components. I've also heard that someone in Texas has done this but I haven't been able to find out who. Any information either off list or on list would be appreciated. Ron M. From mayorrichard at hotmail.com Wed Dec 16 18:20:46 2009 From: mayorrichard at hotmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 01:20:46 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] healey ID tag on ebay In-Reply-To: <173126440912161222q713624f2qd23f2ca2e058bc1b@mail.gmail.com> References: <173126440912161222q713624f2qd23f2ca2e058bc1b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: You can buy blank ID tags from Moss Motors for about $10-$15. You can buy a set of letter and numerical stamps the same size as the original for about $35. You can make up your own ID tags to any letter and number combination you like. What you need is a title! And, DMV will not give you a title based upon some old ID tag on some old car that has no title. The guy that bought the tag for $100 just lost $100. Richard Mayor > From: eyera3 at gmail.com > Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 12:22:38 -0800 > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] healey ID tag on ebay > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AUSTIN-HEALEY-3000-BT7-ID-TAG_W0QQcmdZViewItem QQhashZitem4a9cf1eebcQQitemZ320460680892QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fA ccessories#ht_500wt_1100 > > anyone recognize the number? > > -- > I Erbs > Portland, OR > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as mayorrichard at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsofts powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ From dpaye at crocker.com Wed Dec 16 19:42:09 2009 From: dpaye at crocker.com (Donald Paye) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 20:42:09 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] garage lift Message-ID: <64F47BD1A0B443829766F2E5B11CD778@DonaldPayePC> Bob, I installed a "MaxJax" manufactured by Dannmar in my garage this summer. I looked into all the various kinds and am very pleased with this 2 post unit. First of all the lift takes up very little room in comparison to a four post unit. The whole system is portable once the five bolts holding each column are removed. The columns are each equipped with casters so as to allow storage against the wall of your garage when not needed. The maximum lift is 48" which pretty much is maximum for most garages before you start crushing the windshield against the rafters/floor joists overhead. (Not sure if this is enough to allow a Healey to be driven underneath) I like the fact that with this type of lift you can remove the wheels and also you have full access to the underneath of the car without ramps in the way. Installation was very basic. You have to borrow or rent a hammer drill to install 10 sizable expansion anchors in the floor. When bolts are removed and column moved, anchors are flush with floor surface. Check out www.maxjaxlifts.com for more details. Good luck.. Don Paye From eyera3 at gmail.com Wed Dec 16 18:47:22 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:47:22 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] healey ID tag on ebay In-Reply-To: References: <173126440912161222q713624f2qd23f2ca2e058bc1b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <173126440912161747t6d5d1fb4s476287fd0dbcc9ce@mail.gmail.com> there are states (Georgia) that will issue titles to cars with lost paperwork. One can wash a car thru a number of states. On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 5:20 PM, richard mayor wrote: > You can buy blank ID tags from Moss Motors for about $10-$15. You can buy > a set of letter and numerical stamps the same size as the original for about > $35. You can make up your own ID tags to any letter and number combination > you like. What you need is a title! And, DMV will not give you a title based > upon some old ID tag on some old car that has no title. The guy that bought > the tag for $100 just lost $100. Richard Mayor > > > From: eyera3 at gmail.com > > Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 12:22:38 -0800 > > To: healeys at autox.team.net > > Subject: [Healeys] healey ID tag on ebay > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AUSTIN-HEALEY-3000-BT7-ID-TAG_W0QQcmdZViewItem QQhashZitem4a9cf1eebcQQitemZ320460680892QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fA ccessories#ht_500wt_1100 > > > > anyone recognize the number? > > > > -- > > I Erbs > > Portland, OR > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > You are subscribed as mayorrichard at hotmail.com > > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > ------------------------------ > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsofts powerful SPAM protection. Sign up > now. > -- I Erbs Portland, OR From bspidell at comcast.net Wed Dec 16 19:49:28 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:49:28 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] healey ID tag on ebay In-Reply-To: References: <173126440912161222q713624f2qd23f2ca2e058bc1b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B299C38.9070505@comcast.net> Thanks, Richard. That's what I suspected. Bob richard mayor wrote: > You can buy blank ID tags from Moss Motors for about $10-$15. You can buy a > set of letter and numerical stamps the same size as the original for about > $35. You can make up your own ID tags to any letter and number combination you > like. What you need is a title! And, DMV will not give you a title based upon > some old ID tag on some old car that has no title. The guy that bought the tag > for $100 just lost $100. Richard Mayor > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From m.brouillette at comcast.net Wed Dec 16 19:57:44 2009 From: m.brouillette at comcast.net (m.brouillette at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 02:57:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] healey ID tag on ebay In-Reply-To: <4B299C38.9070505@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1586692135.2300991261018664851.JavaMail.root@sz0097a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Here in NH all you need on a car 10 years old or more is a bill of sale to register it. No title required. > You can buy blank ID tags from Moss Motors for about $10-$15. You can buy a > set of letter and numerical stamps the same size as the original for about > $35. You can make up your own ID tags to any letter and number combination you > like. What you need is a title! And, DMV will not give you a title based upon > some old ID tag on some old car that has no title. The guy that bought the tag > for $100 just lost $100. Richard Mayor > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as m.brouillette at comcast.net http://www.team.net/archive From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Wed Dec 16 20:07:31 2009 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 03:07:31 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?id_tags?= Message-ID: <20091217030731.9247.qmail@server278.com> From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Wed Dec 16 20:09:22 2009 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 03:09:22 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?id_tags?= Message-ID: <20091217030922.10878.qmail@server278.com> i have seen ads in car magazines where they advertise they can get a title for your car. never had any dealings so do not know what parameters they need for the title, but they must be doing it for enough people to pay the advertising bill. hjim From sales at justbrits.com Wed Dec 16 20:51:11 2009 From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ") Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:51:11 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] healey ID tag on ebay In-Reply-To: <4B299C38.9070505@comcast.net> References: <173126440912161222q713624f2qd23f2ca2e058bc1b@mail.gmail.com> <4B299C38.9070505@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4B29AAAF.5000005@justbrits.com> /TM262E: Permission denied From wilkmanracing at aol.com Wed Dec 16 20:57:03 2009 From: wilkmanracing at aol.com (wilkmanracing at aol.com) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:57:03 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Earthquakes and Lifts Message-ID: <8CC4CE42089DEAE-4ED4-B436@webmail-m094.sysops.aol.com> I live in Southern California, AKA earthquake country. I have a four post lift that, like most four post lifts, does not have to be bolted down. One concern I have, however, is what happens to a car on the lift and a car below the lift in the case of an earthquake. Seems to me that a moderately strong earthquake could topple a lift leaving both the top and bottom cars in a bad state. But, just bolting a lift down would not seem to be enough. Unless the bolts extended well into a deep footing, I would think a moderately strong earthquake would pull the bolts out of the ground. Does anyone have any ideas as to how to earthquake-proof a lift? Bill Wilkman BT7 From ahbn6 at verizon.net Wed Dec 16 21:19:49 2009 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:19:49 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Earthquakes and Lifts In-Reply-To: <8CC4CE42089DEAE-4ED4-B436@webmail-m094.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC4CE42089DEAE-4ED4-B436@webmail-m094.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <02b501ca7ed0$2c9a7da0$85cf78e0$@net> Why not ask at one of your local repair shop what they do? Especially in the San Fernando Valley where I believe the last big one was??? John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of wilkmanracing at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 10:57 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Earthquakes and Lifts I live in Southern California, AKA earthquake country. I have a four post lift that, like most four post lifts, does not have to be bolted down. One concern I have, however, is what happens to a car on the lift and a car below the lift in the case of an earthquake. Seems to me that a moderately strong earthquake could topple a lift leaving both the top and bottom cars in a bad state. But, just bolting a lift down would not seem to be enough. Unless the bolts extended well into a deep footing, I would think a moderately strong earthquake would pull the bolts out of the ground. Does anyone have any ideas as to how to earthquake-proof a lift? Bill Wilkman BT7 Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as ahbn6 at verizon.net http://www.team.net/archive From gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com Wed Dec 16 21:25:36 2009 From: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com (Richard Collins ) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 04:25:36 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Earthquakes and Lifts Message-ID: Ummm, make them out of wood so they flex ? Beware of treehuggers, I know... RVC of Ky BN7 440 And a self installed 4 poster by Rotary in the garage ------Original Message------ From: John Sims To: wilkmanracing at aol.com To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Earthquakes and Lifts Sent: Dec 16, 2009 22:19 Why not ask at one of your local repair shop what they do? Especially in the San Fernando Valley where I believe the last big one was??? John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net ] On Behalf Of wilkmanracing at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 10:57 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Earthquakes and Lifts I live in Southern California, AKA earthquake country. I have a four post lift that, like most four post lifts, does not have to be bolted down. One concern I have, however, is what happens to a car on the lift and a car below the lift in the case of an earthquake. Seems to me that a moderately strong earthquake could topple a lift leaving both the top and bottom cars in a bad state. But, just bolting a lift down would not seem to be enough. Unless the bolts extended well into a deep footing, I would think a moderately strong earthquake would pull the bolts out of the ground. Does anyone have any ideas as to how to earthquake-proof a lift? Bill Wilkman BT7 Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as ahbn6 at verizon.net http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com http://www.team.net/archive Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com Wed Dec 16 21:33:35 2009 From: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com (Richard Collins ) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 04:33:35 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Tire Pressure Message-ID: I had nitrogen in my Porsche track car; still had significant pressure increase from tire Kemps. Went back to normal air. My vote: Nitrogen doesn't work as sold. I started with both new tires and vacuumed tires with no difference. Still had high temp pressure increases. Richard of Ky BN7 440 ------Original Message------ From: Dr. B To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Tire Pressure Sent: Dec 16, 2009 17:35 Rather than make unsubstantiated statements, "Nitrogen doesn't react to temperature changes ..." maybe we should look at the scientific data. From the Handbook of Chemistry and Physics the thermal coefficient of expansion for Air is 0.0036728 while for Nitrogen it is 0.003673. These numbers refer to the change in volume per unit volume per degree Celsius temperature change. So for a volume of 10 lites (Air vs Nitrogen) undergoing a temperature change of 10 C the change in volume is 0.36728 liters for Air and 0.36730 liters for Nitrogen. Thus, the statement that Nitrogen doesn't react to temperature changes as much as air is false. And claims by tire manufactures or sellers is just that claims, not facts. Bad science is just like bad math - BAD! Art Braundmeier BJ8/43199 -- ?Plagiarism is an academic crime, punishable by academic death.? ---Tommy Lee Jones as Marshall Sharpe in Man of the House _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com http://www.team.net/archive Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From comkanuk at cgocable.ca Wed Dec 16 21:38:04 2009 From: comkanuk at cgocable.ca (gilbert gauthier) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:38:04 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] healey ID tag on ebay In-Reply-To: <1586692135.2300991261018664851.JavaMail.root@sz0097a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1586692135.2300991261018664851.JavaMail.root@sz0097a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <3118DD4A-CCF1-46C2-B157-39BD971FB185@cgocable.ca> He bought it just for the kick of it , vintage tags for vintage cars this way we will see on the ad: match number car with 50 mi. since restoration with california plate and 3 owner since new .......for the modique sum of 60K. Gilbert looking for 100 M at reasonable price...........dreaming Le 09-12-16 ` 21:57, m.brouillette at comcast.net a icrit : > Here in NH all you need on a car 10 years old or more is a bill of > sale to register it. No title required. > > >> You can buy blank ID tags from Moss Motors for about $10-$15. You >> can buy a >> set of letter and numerical stamps the same size as the original >> for about >> $35. You can make up your own ID tags to any letter and number >> combination you >> like. What you need is a title! And, DMV will not give you a title >> based upon >> some old ID tag on some old car that has no title. The guy that >> bought the tag >> for $100 just lost $100. Richard Mayor >> >> > > -- > ******************************************************************* > Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net > > ******************************************************************* > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as m.brouillette at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as comkanuk at cgocable.ca > > http://www.team.net/archive From britishcars at shaw.ca Wed Dec 16 21:52:39 2009 From: britishcars at shaw.ca (PG) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 20:52:39 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Aluminium Radiators Message-ID: Anybody know of a North American source for Alum radiators for a BJ8 ? Thanks Paul From richard.ewald at gmail.com Wed Dec 16 21:56:59 2009 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 20:56:59 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Earthquakes and Lifts In-Reply-To: <02b501ca7ed0$2c9a7da0$85cf78e0$@net> References: <8CC4CE42089DEAE-4ED4-B436@webmail-m094.sysops.aol.com> <02b501ca7ed0$2c9a7da0$85cf78e0$@net> Message-ID: I'm a service manager at a large dealership in Southern California. We use twin post hoists, not 4 posters but the issues are the similar. The Sears in Northridge used to leave all their cars all the way up in the air so the cleaning crew could clean under them every night. From what I heard when the quake hit in 1994 the cars on those racks went down like dominoes. It is my understanding they lost 9 cars that night. Now I don't know if these were all in ground hoists or above ground units. About anchoring hoists, to bolt down a twin post hoist requires a 6" slab. Most if not all residential garages have a 4" slab. The solution is to cut out a section about 4 feet by 2' wider than the lift and pour a 6" slab in that area. So if your hoist legs are 10 feet apart, the slab would be 4X12. (had to do that with more than one hoist installation) But since these 4 post hoists are designed to work without bolting to the floor, you might be able to get by with just the 4" slab. Consult the hoist maker for more info. In the event of a quake the size of Northridge or above, I would want a hoist anchored to the floor. The movement in that quake, at my house, was more vertical than it was horizontal. My water heater walked away from the wall at the bottom (it was anchored at the top) and it wound up at a 30 degree angle. I would be afraid that a 4 post lift could walk and hit the car underneath, or the legs might spread and possibly collapse. I don't think that the top car falling is much of an issue for these type of hoists. With a single or a twin post I would have that concern. In closing let me pass along what I tell all of my techs to do in the event of an earthquake. RUN! get the hell out from under the cars, and get clear. Hope this helps. Rick On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 8:19 PM, John Sims wrote: > Why not ask at one of your local repair shop what they do? Especially in > the > San Fernando Valley where I believe the last big one was??? > > John Sims, BN6 > Aberdeen, NJ From PhilRitten at aol.com Wed Dec 16 22:23:02 2009 From: PhilRitten at aol.com (PhilRitten at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 00:23:02 EST Subject: [Healeys] Gas Caps Message-ID: I seem to be losing a couple of gallons of gas a week while my car is in storage. I don't smell any fumes, and don't see any leaks. I'm wondering if perhaps my gas cap could be bad and be venting gas. Does anyone have advice? Thanks, Phil From f.ronald.rader at gmail.com Wed Dec 16 22:41:30 2009 From: f.ronald.rader at gmail.com (F Ronald Rader) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:41:30 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Radiators In-Reply-To: <5caeedb50912162139r69c1211cm451c109acda99311@mail.gmail.com> References: <5caeedb50912162139r69c1211cm451c109acda99311@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5caeedb50912162141o1415a873od9b0fdd9180c44c7@mail.gmail.com> http://www.rondavisradiators.com i got aluminum rad for my 1967 E type FHC. both my BJ8 and my XK 150 have new four row units inside the original top and bottom. this technology is very good and it looks stock. made in the local rad shop. my BJ8 runs at 160 all day long. i also replaced the water pump and have a "desert fan" ron rader Los Angeles 1965 BJ8 (for Sale) 1967 E type FHC On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 8:52 PM, PG wrote: > > Anybody know of a North American source for Alum radiators for a BJ8 ? > > > > Thanks > > Paul > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as f.ronald.rader at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From amalin at mac.com Wed Dec 16 22:56:45 2009 From: amalin at mac.com (Al Malin) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 00:56:45 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Gas Caps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <972B95AE-C54E-4278-9A75-C6DD4A76DABD@mac.com> Have you recently cut off your teenager's gas allowance for his car? Al Malin On Dec 17, 2009, at 12:23 AM, philritten at aol.com wrote: > I seem to be losing a couple of gallons of gas a week while my car > is in > storage. I don't smell any fumes, and don't see any leaks. I'm > wondering if > perhaps my gas cap could be bad and be venting gas. Does anyone > have advice? > > Thanks, > Phil > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as amalin at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From richard.ewald at gmail.com Wed Dec 16 23:02:49 2009 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:02:49 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Gas Caps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Rather than looking for a new gas cap, I think you should be looking for a guy with an Oklahoma credit card (a 3' long hose). I have never heard of that amount of gas evaporating in a week even if the cap is off. And the cap on your car had better be venting, or there will be problems. Rick On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 9:23 PM, wrote: > I seem to be losing a couple of gallons of gas a week while my car is in > storage. I don't smell any fumes, and don't see any leaks. I'm wondering if > perhaps my gas cap could be bad and be venting gas. Does anyone have > advice? > > Thanks, > Phil > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richard.ewald at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From greylinn at ozemail.com.au Wed Dec 16 23:14:50 2009 From: greylinn at ozemail.com.au (Peter Linn) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:14:50 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Dual Brake System In-Reply-To: <826263.2224.qm@web32906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <826263.2224.qm@web32906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <52E307B0B3FF40429ACE3D63F008AC45@PeterPC> G'day Ron I had to put dual circuit brakes on my V6 engined BN1 for compliance here in Oz. the car has original (5 stud) drums on the rear, Wolseley 6/110 discs on the fornt (calipers are similar to 3000) I've used a Datsun 240/260/280Z master cylinder (7/8" bore) with a booster acting on the front only. Although I have yet to use the car in anger, all seems to work pretty well so far. Cheers Peter Linn Brisbane Oz BN1 Ward Spl coupe BN1 Holden V6 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Mitchell" To: "Healey Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 10:51 AM Subject: [Healeys] Dual Brake System > While attending Encounter this year I had a leaking Rear Wheel Cylinder > cause > a complete Brake Failure while backing out of a downhill parking place at > the > Hotel. The result was $4700 damage to the rear of my MkII BN7 caused by > the > Stone Wall that didn't move when I hit it. I know the first thing your > going > to reply is why I didn't use the Parking Brake to stop before hitting the > wall. I was in the process of doing that when the impact occurred. > > I'm > contemplating converting to a Dual Brake system. My question is has any > one > on this list knowledge of a proper dia. and stroke Master Cylinder that > will > function on a Healey with Manual Disc Brake Fronts and Drum Brake Rears? > I > did see a Healey at Encounter in 2008 that had converted to a Dual System > but wasn't able to find the owner to enquire as to the source for his > components. I've also heard that someone in Texas has done this but I > haven't > been able to find out who. > > Any information either off list or on list would > be appreciated. > > Ron M. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as greylinn at ozemail.com.au > > http://www.team.net/archive From coudesluijs at chello.nl Wed Dec 16 23:32:05 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 07:32:05 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Speaking of tire Pressure In-Reply-To: <4B29703E.3070800@earthlink.net> References: <20091216171720.DPNQF.216666.imail@eastrmwml47> <4B29703E.3070800@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4B29D065.2000503@chello.nl> I heard another claim for using nitrogen. The nitrogen molecules do not travel through the rubber, oxygen molecules do, so if you use nitrogen, your tire pressure should remain constant. A load of bollucks!!. The only valid claim may be that it may be dryer, however I very much doubt if anyone would notice a difference. I do not know how it is produced and I would not trust off hand that the water content is not much the same as in the air it was produced from. As for condensation in the tires, I have never ever seen water inside a tube or tire, not from a car, not from a bike, not from a motor bike. Kees Oudesluijs NL Bob Haskell schreef: > The idea behind using Nitrogen is that it's dry. Doesn't have the > humidity/moisture/water that air does. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive From coudesluijs at chello.nl Wed Dec 16 23:33:39 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 07:33:39 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] healey ID tag on ebay In-Reply-To: References: <000b01ca7e9d$36817720$a3846560$@rr.com> <484676.78188.qm@web51407.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <173126440912161517y1dcf8748j1e9256bcd7fb74cf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B29D0C3.4020006@chello.nl> They can also surface in a stolen car!!!! Kees Oudesluijs NL rrengineer @dslextreme.com schreef: > O.K., let me end all this speculation. I told a Healey restorer friend of > mine about the tags and he bought them both with the "buy it now" option. > Don't be surprised if you see them at RM or Barret Jackson sometime in the > future with a Heritage certificate and looking just like the car that they > were on originally. I think I would rather see a Healey resurrected from an > ID plate in it's original form than just to disappear completely. And trust > me, this guy is a top notch restorer so maybe it will be a pheonix after > all. > Mike MacLean > 56 BN2 > 60 AN5 From coudesluijs at chello.nl Wed Dec 16 23:50:41 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 07:50:41 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Gas Caps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B29D4C1.50107@chello.nl> Watch the storage keeper. Kees Oudesluijs NL PhilRitten at aol.com schreef: > I seem to be losing a couple of gallons of gas a week while my car is in > storage. I don't smell any fumes, and don't see any leaks. I'm wondering if > perhaps my gas cap could be bad and be venting gas. Does anyone have advice? > > Thanks, > Phil > _______________________________________________ From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Dec 17 00:02:28 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:02:28 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Dual Brake System In-Reply-To: <826263.2224.qm@web32906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <826263.2224.qm@web32906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ron - The easiest solution is to get a tandem master cylinder. Wilwood makes one which will fit in the standard hole. I don't recall the standard bore, but I think wilwood makes them in a couple different bore sizes. This one is a 1" bore: http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/Wilwood-Combination-Remote-Tandem-Master-Cylinder-p-2322.html With the tandem cylinder, the plumbing is simpler, and there is no modification necessary to the pedal box. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > While attending Encounter this year I had a leaking Rear Wheel Cylinder > cause > a complete Brake Failure while backing out of a downhill parking place at > the > Hotel. The result was $4700 damage to the rear of my MkII BN7 caused by > the > Stone Wall that didn't move when I hit it. I know the first thing your > going > to reply is why I didn't use the Parking Brake to stop before hitting the > wall. I was in the process of doing that when the impact occurred. > > I'm > contemplating converting to a Dual Brake system. My question is has any > one > on this list knowledge of a proper dia. and stroke Master Cylinder that > will > function on a Healey with Manual Disc Brake Fronts and Drum Brake Rears? > I > did see a Healey at Encounter in 2008 that had converted to a Dual System > but wasn't able to find the owner to enquire as to the source for his > components. I've also heard that someone in Texas has done this but I > haven't > been able to find out who. > > Any information either off list or on list would > be appreciated. > > Ron M. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From j.aeckerlin at gmail.com Thu Dec 17 05:33:05 2009 From: j.aeckerlin at gmail.com (Jaap Aeckerlin) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 13:33:05 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Gas Caps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4e23c7250912170433u2d44a44t9a5af7a91a070df9@mail.gmail.com> Buy a cap which you can lock (and keep the key for yourself) Jack 2009/12/17 > I seem to be losing a couple of gallons of gas a week while my car is in > storage. I don't smell any fumes, and don't see any leaks. I'm wondering if > perhaps my gas cap could be bad and be venting gas. Does anyone have > advice? > > Thanks, > Phil > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as j.aeckerlin at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From rpmengr at bellsouth.net Thu Dec 17 06:29:33 2009 From: rpmengr at bellsouth.net (Bob Memler) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 08:29:33 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Aluminum radiators Message-ID: <4B2A323D.8060800@bellsouth.net> Try Griffin Radiators in South Carolina. Very good. Bob Memler From schauss at worldnet.att.net Thu Dec 17 06:32:13 2009 From: schauss at worldnet.att.net (Peter Schauss) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 08:32:13 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Garage lift In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20091217133211.E8A4F18788C@autox.team.net> I have been storing my BJ7 on a four post lift with my MGB underneath (or vice versa) every winter for more than 10 years. I use several partial sheets of scrap plywood between the ramps to catch the oil drips from whichever car is on top. I have never had a problem with oil dripping onto the car on the bottom. Peter Schauss 1963 BJ7 1980 MGB > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys- > bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Davies > Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 7:14 PM > To: 'Wolfe, Dennis'; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Garage lift > > Dennis: > Based upon my 67 BJ8, I'd get a lift with a solid floor with sides like a > turkey basting pan or your car underneath will be covered in various > fluids > :-) > Ron > --------------------------- > I'm looking to purchase an electric car lift for my home garage to allow > me > to store my BJ8 above one of my other cars. > Any tips as to features or manufacturers I should look for? > Thanks, > Dennis Wolfe > '66 MKIII > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as schauss at worldnet.att.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From sbyers at ec.rr.com Thu Dec 17 06:36:31 2009 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 08:36:31 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] healey ID tag on ebay In-Reply-To: References: <1947309626.279091261008813785.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <000c01ca7f1d$f1bb3f00$d531bd00$@rr.com> If a future buyer of the car happens to check in with the BJ8 registry, he/she is going to learn that the car they bought is not the car they thought it was. In my experience, such buyers are not happy with that experience. There are some states (North Carolina is one) that do still have DMV records that old. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of rrengineer @dslextreme.com Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 7:28 PM To: Bob Spidell Cc: healey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] healey ID tag on ebay It has been off the DMV rolls for 35 years. There has been no record of it all that time. Since DMVs in the US have been computerized, any record that old no longer exists. I see no problem and it won't be the first time he has done this. ALL the restorers that sell at auction do this. How many big Healey project cars do you think are left any way? The endless supply by Tanner and others has to come from somewhere. A restorer looking for a higher profit margin takes this route all the time and sells it to the kind of buyer you see at the auctions that knows nothing of Healeys, except it is a pretty, shiny car his young girlfriend wants. After they figure out the kind of work it takes to keep a car like this running, it goes back on the market, hopefully to someone that can appreciate and for a better price. Mike MacLean 56 BN2 60 AN5 On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: > Won't that be problematic if the car has previously been 'officially' > scrapped? > > > bs > > -------------------------------- > Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > > > > > O.K., let me end all this speculation. I told a Healey restorer friend of > mine about the tags and he bought them both with the "buy it now" option. > Don't be surprised if you see them at RM or Barret Jackson sometime in the > future with a Heritage certificate and looking just like the car that they > were on originally. I think I would rather see a Healey resurrected from > an > ID plate in it's original form than just to disappear completely. And > trust > me, this guy is a top notch restorer so maybe it will be a pheonix after > all. > Mike MacLean > 56 BN2 > 60 AN5 Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as sbyers at ec.rr.com http://www.team.net/archive From sbyers at ec.rr.com Thu Dec 17 06:42:00 2009 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 08:42:00 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] healey ID tag on ebay In-Reply-To: References: <173126440912161222q713624f2qd23f2ca2e058bc1b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000d01ca7f1e$b5b5afd0$21210f70$@rr.com> Well, it's possible to get a title for a car that shouldn't have one. There has been at least one car I know of offered by a well-known restorer at the Barrett-Jackson auction that was claiming a VIN number that is recorded as scrapped in the BJ8 registry. I would assume that he was able to get a title with that number. I've never seen a "home-made" replacement VIN tag that looked anywhere near the factory original. They are pretty obvious when they turn up, and are the first thing that make me suspicious of the identity of a car. Steve Byers HB8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of richard mayor Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 8:21 PM To: eyera3 at gmail.com; healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] healey ID tag on ebay You can buy blank ID tags from Moss Motors for about $10-$15. You can buy a set of letter and numerical stamps the same size as the original for about $35. You can make up your own ID tags to any letter and number combination you like. What you need is a title! And, DMV will not give you a title based upon some old ID tag on some old car that has no title. The guy that bought the tag for $100 just lost $100. Richard Mayor From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Dec 17 06:42:56 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 13:42:56 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Gas Caps In-Reply-To: <4B29D4C1.50107@chello.nl> References: ,<4B29D4C1.50107@chello.nl> Message-ID: I think it will stop by itself in about 3 weeks ... :) Maybe you should put sugar in the gas tank and plan to clean it out in the spring before firing up your car!!! :) I would suspect that someone is accessing your car like others have mentioned. Look into a motion activated camera? I think that deer hunting places sell them. > Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 07:50:41 +0100 > > PhilRitten at aol.com schreef: > > I seem to be losing a couple of gallons of gas a week while my car is in > > storage. I don't smell any fumes, and don't see any leaks. I'm wondering if > > perhaps my gas cap could be bad and be venting gas. Does anyone have advice? > > > > Thanks, > > Phil From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Dec 17 07:18:50 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 22:18:50 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Earthquakes and Lifts In-Reply-To: <8CC4CE42089DEAE-4ED4-B436@webmail-m094.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC4CE42089DEAE-4ED4-B436@webmail-m094.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Bill - I'm originally an engineer from Berzerkeley where we study these things, and spent 6 years working for Bechtel. There is two ways to do this - keep it loose or anchor it down with guy wires. You don't want to just bolt the posts to the floor - with up to two tons six foot in the air that's potentially enough weight to break most welds with lots of shaking - in some ways if you just left it on the wheels it'd probably just roll around rather than topple over if you bolted 'er down. There are actually many buidings in Tokyo that have floating/rolling foundations for this very reason - loose at ground level is great for stopping things from toppling over. The best thing to do, however, is to get guy wires and turnbuckles and connect them to the top of all four posts then bolt the other end of the wire to the floor, preferably with the wire at a 45 deg angle to level (but any angle past ~ 70 deg to level isn't as good) . This is the best protection to keep the lot from falling over and how many old masonry buldings are shored up to withstand quakes. The guy wires are good because you can easily loosen them and move the lift around if necessary. Alan On 12/17/09, wilkmanracing at aol.com wrote: > I live in Southern California, AKA earthquake country. I have a four post > lift that, like most four post lifts, does not have to be bolted down. One > concern I have, however, is what happens to a car on the lift and a car > below > the lift in the case of an earthquake. Seems to me that a moderately strong > earthquake could topple a lift leaving both the top and bottom cars in a bad > state. But, just bolting a lift down would not seem to be enough. Unless > the > bolts extended well into a deep footing, I would think a moderately strong > earthquake would pull the bolts out of the ground. Does anyone have any > ideas > as to how to earthquake-proof a lift? > > Bill Wilkman > BT7 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Sent from my mobile device Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Dec 17 07:24:35 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:24:35 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Gas Caps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Phil - If you open the boot and smell gas inside, you probably have a pinhole leak in the bottom of your tank and it's leaking inside the boot. Most of the bottom of the tank sits on the boot floor and is prone to corrosion as a result. Take the tank out and have it pressure tested a gas tank specialist can repair it or get a new tank... Also check the filler tube rubber hose for leaks, that's cheaper to fix! Alan On 12/17/09, PhilRitten at aol.com wrote: > I seem to be losing a couple of gallons of gas a week while my car is in > storage. I don't smell any fumes, and don't see any leaks. I'm wondering if > perhaps my gas cap could be bad and be venting gas. Does anyone have > advice? > > Thanks, > Phil > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Sent from my mobile device Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 From scvc70 at epix.net Thu Dec 17 08:38:11 2009 From: scvc70 at epix.net (Carr&Edwards) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:38:11 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Dual Brake System References: <826263.2224.qm@web32906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Several years ago there was an exchange on the list about a dual M.C. conversion for a 100, and the recommendation was to use a Fiat X 1/9 master cylinder. Has anyone out there tried this one? (We'll be getting to that point in our restoration in a few months, we hope!) Sarah Carr BN1 in PA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Seigrist" To: "Ron Mitchell" Cc: "Healey Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 2:02 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dual Brake System > Ron - > > The easiest solution is to get a tandem master cylinder. Wilwood makes > one > which will fit in the standard hole. I don't recall the standard bore, but > I > think wilwood makes them in a couple different bore sizes. This one is a > 1" > bore: > > http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/Wilwood-Combination-Remote-Tandem-Master-Cylinder-p-2322.html > > With the tandem cylinder, the plumbing is simpler, and there is no > modification necessary to the pedal box. > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '59 Jag Mk IX > '64 BJ8 > > > On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > >> While attending Encounter this year I had a leaking Rear Wheel Cylinder >> cause >> a complete Brake Failure while backing out of a downhill parking place at >> the >> Hotel. The result was $4700 damage to the rear of my MkII BN7 caused by >> the >> Stone Wall that didn't move when I hit it. I know the first thing your >> going >> to reply is why I didn't use the Parking Brake to stop before hitting the >> wall. I was in the process of doing that when the impact occurred. >> >> I'm >> contemplating converting to a Dual Brake system. My question is has any >> one >> on this list knowledge of a proper dia. and stroke Master Cylinder that >> will >> function on a Healey with Manual Disc Brake Fronts and Drum Brake >> Rears? >> I >> did see a Healey at Encounter in 2008 that had converted to a Dual System >> but wasn't able to find the owner to enquire as to the source for his >> components. I've also heard that someone in Texas has done this but I >> haven't >> been able to find out who. >> >> Any information either off list or on list would >> be appreciated. >> >> Ron M. >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as scvc70 at epix.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From jimf at frakes-eng.com Thu Dec 17 08:45:07 2009 From: jimf at frakes-eng.com (Frakes, Jim) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:45:07 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Garage lift In-Reply-To: <4B296DB8.20009@earthlink.net> References: <2B5EBC9467003642BF9286530F11953934A640@TINCSNA09VXCH01.corp.firstam.com> <4B296DB8.20009@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Dennis, Bob Haskell and I live close to each other and find the lifts in our respective garages a god send when working on the cars. I added on my extra two car garage in 2003 and dropped it 16 inches deeper and raised the ceiling so it is closer to 11 feet. Due to lot lines restrictions, the depth is not as great as I wanted, only 20 feet. So, when I have a car pulled forward, the door cannot come up all the way, just enough clearance for the Bj8 under and any of the other (Healeys) cars to fit We finished a BN4 resto in 2005 and are working now on a 100. I do not know what I would do without it. Since Bob is 6'9" his is a little too tall for me but we work it out. (so is the top of his tool box!) Mine came from Greg Smith also and they delivered and set up for $600. I also added one in my daughter and son-in-laws third bay for the Mustang GT Convertible. Jim -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Haskell Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 6:31 PM To: Wolfe, Dennis Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Garage lift Dennis, I own two. Bought one from Greg Smith Equipment (http://www.gregsmithequipment.com/). Nice folks to deal with and one of their showrooms is local. Bought the other one from Super Lifts (http://www.superlifts.com). Like the lift - I can walk underneath it (6'9") but I could never get a straight answer as to when it would ship. Keep in mind that the Healeys aren't very wide, so be sure that the lift's main tracks/rails are close enough together. Bob Wolfe, Dennis wrote: > I'm looking to purchase an electric car lift for my home garage to allow me to store my BJ8 above one of my other cars. > Any tips as to features or manufacturers I should look for? > Thanks, > Dennis Wolfe > '66 MKIII Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as jimf at frakes-eng.com http://www.team.net/archive CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and it may contain information that is privileged or confidential. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient (or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us by telephone at the number listed above or by return e-mail. From philritten at aol.com Thu Dec 17 08:44:52 2009 From: philritten at aol.com (philritten at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:44:52 EST Subject: [Healeys] Gas Caps Message-ID: <8dac.5389a468.385babf4@aol.com> All, The car is in a padlocked garage, with an older locking gas cap (and no teenagers). That's why I'm so puzzled. There is no smell of gas in the trunk, and no sign of leakage (under the car or at the fuel pump). Phil In a message dated 12/16/2009 10:03:32 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, richard.ewald at gmail.com writes: Rather than looking for a new gas cap, I think you should be looking for a guy with an Oklahoma credit card (a 3' long hose). I have never heard of that amount of gas evaporating in a week even if the cap is off. And the cap on your car had better be venting, or there will be problems. Rick On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 9:23 PM, wrote: > I seem to be losing a couple of gallons of gas a week while my car is in > storage. I don't smell any fumes, and don't see any leaks. I'm wondering if > perhaps my gas cap could be bad and be venting gas. Does anyone have > advice? > > Thanks, > Phil > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richard.ewald at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as philritten at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive From pieters at pt.lu Thu Dec 17 08:46:53 2009 From: pieters at pt.lu (Pieter and Linda) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:46:53 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Dual Brake System In-Reply-To: References: <826263.2224.qm@web32906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I have the wilwood 1" bore tandem master cylinder in my BJ7 combined with four pot front calipers and rear discs. It is a straight bolt in fit and easy to plumb but the pedal pressure is high. I would recomend a 7/8 bore. I am fitting a tandem brake booster over the winter so we will see what the pedal pressure is like then, cheers Pieter On 17/12/2009, at 8:02 AM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > Ron - > > The easiest solution is to get a tandem master cylinder. Wilwood > makes one > which will fit in the standard hole. I don't recall the standard > bore, but I > think wilwood makes them in a couple different bore sizes. This one > is a 1" > bore: > > http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/Wilwood-Combination-Remote-Tandem-Master-Cylinder-p-2322.html > > With the tandem cylinder, the plumbing is simpler, and there is no > modification necessary to the pedal box. > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '59 Jag Mk IX > '64 BJ8 > > > On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Ron Mitchell > wrote: > >> While attending Encounter this year I had a leaking Rear Wheel >> Cylinder >> cause >> a complete Brake Failure while backing out of a downhill parking >> place at >> the >> Hotel. The result was $4700 damage to the rear of my MkII BN7 >> caused by >> the >> Stone Wall that didn't move when I hit it. I know the first thing >> your >> going >> to reply is why I didn't use the Parking Brake to stop before >> hitting the >> wall. I was in the process of doing that when the impact occurred. >> >> I'm >> contemplating converting to a Dual Brake system. My question is >> has any >> one >> on this list knowledge of a proper dia. and stroke Master Cylinder >> that >> will >> function on a Healey with Manual Disc Brake Fronts and Drum Brake >> Rears? >> I >> did see a Healey at Encounter in 2008 that had converted to a Dual >> System >> but wasn't able to find the owner to enquire as to the source for his >> components. I've also heard that someone in Texas has done this >> but I >> haven't >> been able to find out who. >> >> Any information either off list or on list would >> be appreciated. >> >> Ron M. >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as pieters at pt.lu > > http://www.team.net/archive From ahbn6 at verizon.net Thu Dec 17 08:53:25 2009 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:53:25 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Gas Caps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <02e301ca7f31$12076500$36162f00$@net> And one other thing to check is the seal where the gas gauge fits. If you have a full tank (up to the filler pipe) and the gauge isn't sealed properly, you will leak gas from there into the boot. Ask me how I know! John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Alan Seigrist Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 9:25 AM To: PhilRitten at aol.com; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gas Caps Phil - If you open the boot and smell gas inside, you probably have a pinhole leak in the bottom of your tank and it's leaking inside the boot. Most of the bottom of the tank sits on the boot floor and is prone to corrosion as a result. Take the tank out and have it pressure tested a gas tank specialist can repair it or get a new tank... Also check the filler tube rubber hose for leaks, that's cheaper to fix! Alan From ryan at jimryan.com Thu Dec 17 08:53:13 2009 From: ryan at jimryan.com (Jim Ryan) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:53:13 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] healey ID tag on ebay In-Reply-To: <000d01ca7f1e$b5b5afd0$21210f70$@rr.com> References: <173126440912161222q713624f2qd23f2ca2e058bc1b@mail.gmail.com> <000d01ca7f1e$b5b5afd0$21210f70$@rr.com> Message-ID: I had my 1964 BJ7 (BJ7L25155) stolen in Boston a week after I bought it in 1974 from the original owner. Got it back 3 months later in perfect condition and full of camping equipment that wasn't there when I parked it. The only thing missing on the car was the ID plate. They even put the trunk lock in my tool box . I sometimes wonder if they changed the oil for me... Anyway, 6 months later I get a call from the FBI. They said they had broken up a stolen car ring in VT and my tag was on one. I went over my story with them and they asked if I would testify. I said if they paid the travel I would. About a week before the trial date they called and said it had been pled out so I didn't go. All I have on my car is a piece of scrap metal with the number stamped on it that I made back then, and whenever I got it inspected they would look at it and the registration and say "OK". I still have the car. In severe need of restoration (again) and sitting outside under a tarp, but I just can't bear to let it go. My fantasy is that one of my boys (22 & 25) will get settled down enough to inherit the project. -Jim )?), Pablo Picasso - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." 2009/12/17 BJ8 Healeys > Well, it's possible to get a title for a car that shouldn't have one. > There > has been at least one car I know of offered by a well-known restorer at the > Barrett-Jackson auction that was claiming a VIN number that is recorded as > scrapped in the BJ8 registry. I would assume that he was able to get a > title with that number. > > I've never seen a "home-made" replacement VIN tag that looked anywhere near > the factory original. They are pretty obvious when they turn up, and are > the first thing that make me suspicious of the identity of a car. > > Steve Byers > HB8L/36666 > BJ8 Registry > Havelock, NC USA > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto: > healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of richard mayor > Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 8:21 PM > To: eyera3 at gmail.com; healeys > Subject: Re: [Healeys] healey ID tag on ebay > > You can buy blank ID tags from Moss Motors for about $10-$15. You can buy a > set of letter and numerical stamps the same size as the original for about > $35. You can make up your own ID tags to any letter and number combination > you > like. What you need is a title! And, DMV will not give you a title based > upon > some old ID tag on some old car that has no title. The guy that bought the > tag > for $100 just lost $100. Richard Mayor > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as ryan at jimryan.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From eyera3 at gmail.com Thu Dec 17 09:09:06 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 08:09:06 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Gas Caps In-Reply-To: <8dac.5389a468.385babf4@aol.com> References: <8dac.5389a468.385babf4@aol.com> Message-ID: <173126440912170809h27f010fatd9e16197617700d5@mail.gmail.com> alien abduction? On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 7:44 AM, wrote: > All, > > The car is in a padlocked garage, with an older locking gas cap (and no > teenagers). That's why I'm so puzzled. There is no smell of gas in the > trunk, > and no sign of leakage (under the car or at the fuel pump). > > Phil > > > In a message dated 12/16/2009 10:03:32 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > richard.ewald at gmail.com writes: > > Rather than looking for a new gas cap, I think you should be looking for a > guy with an Oklahoma credit card (a 3' long hose). > I have never heard of that amount of gas evaporating in a week even if the > cap is off. And the cap on your car had better be venting, or there will > be > problems. > Rick > > On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 9:23 PM, wrote: > > > I seem to be losing a couple of gallons of gas a week while my car is in > > storage. I don't smell any fumes, and don't see any leaks. I'm wondering > if > > perhaps my gas cap could be bad and be venting gas. Does anyone have > > advice? > > > > Thanks, > > Phil > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > You are subscribed as richard.ewald at gmail.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as philritten at aol.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- I Erbs Portland, OR From simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk Thu Dec 17 09:54:31 2009 From: simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk (Simon Lachlan) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:54:31 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Gas Caps In-Reply-To: <8dac.5389a468.385babf4@aol.com> References: <8dac.5389a468.385babf4@aol.com> Message-ID: <001201ca7f39$9ae4a6a0$d0adf3e0$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> Could you not be losing fuel at the pump, where the line to the engine comes out? You'd - possibly - only get a leak when the pump was running, but could lose enough to make a noticeable difference over a while. As I understand it, you couldn't get a leak on the "inward" side of the pump. Simon -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of philritten at aol.com Sent: 17 December 2009 15:45 To: richard.ewald at gmail.com Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gas Caps All, The car is in a padlocked garage, with an older locking gas cap (and no teenagers). That's why I'm so puzzled. There is no smell of gas in the trunk, and no sign of leakage (under the car or at the fuel pump). Phil In a message dated 12/16/2009 10:03:32 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, richard.ewald at gmail.com writes: Rather than looking for a new gas cap, I think you should be looking for a guy with an Oklahoma credit card (a 3' long hose). I have never heard of that amount of gas evaporating in a week even if the cap is off. And the cap on your car had better be venting, or there will be problems. Rick On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 9:23 PM, wrote: > I seem to be losing a couple of gallons of gas a week while my car is in > storage. I don't smell any fumes, and don't see any leaks. I'm wondering if > perhaps my gas cap could be bad and be venting gas. Does anyone have > advice? > > Thanks, > Phil > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richard.ewald at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as philritten at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk http://www.team.net/archive From philritten at aol.com Thu Dec 17 09:54:50 2009 From: philritten at aol.com (philritten at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:54:50 EST Subject: [Healeys] Gas Caps Message-ID: Lets say for argument sake that I'm losing a gallon a week. If I took off the gas cap entirely, is it possible for that much to "evaporate"? In a message dated 12/17/2009 8:09:53 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, eyera3 at gmail.com writes: alien abduction? On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 7:44 AM, <_philritten at aol.com_ (mailto:philritten at aol.com) > wrote: All, The car is in a padlocked garage, with an older locking gas cap (and no teenagers). That's why I'm so puzzled. There is no smell of gas in the trunk, and no sign of leakage (under the car or at the fuel pump). Phil In a message dated 12/16/2009 10:03:32 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, _richard.ewald at gmail.com_ (mailto:richard.ewald at gmail.com) writes: Rather than looking for a new gas cap, I think you should be looking for a guy with an Oklahoma credit card (a 3' long hose). I have never heard of that amount of gas evaporating in a week even if the cap is off. And the cap on your car had better be venting, or there will be problems. Rick On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 9:23 PM, <_PhilRitten at aol.com_ (mailto:PhilRitten at aol.com) > wrote: > I seem to be losing a couple of gallons of gas a week while my car is in > storage. I don't smell any fumes, and don't see any leaks. I'm wondering if > perhaps my gas cap could be bad and be venting gas. Does anyone have > advice? > > Thanks, > Phil > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net _http://www.team.net/donate.html_ (http://www.team.net/donate.html) > > _Healeys at autox.team.net_ (mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net) > _http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys_ (http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys) > > You are subscribed as _richard.ewald at gmail.com_ (mailto:richard.ewald at gmail.com) > > _http://www.team.net/archive_ (http://www.team.net/archive) _Healeys at autox.team.net_ (mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net) _http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys_ (http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys) You are subscribed as _philritten at aol.com_ (mailto:philritten at aol.com) _http://www.team.net/archive_ (http://www.team.net/archive) _Healeys at autox.team.net_ (mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net) _http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys_ (http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys) You are subscribed as _eyera3 at gmail.com_ (mailto:eyera3 at gmail.com) _http://www.team.net/archive_ (http://www.team.net/archive) -- I Erbs Portland, OR From philritten at aol.com Thu Dec 17 09:58:32 2009 From: philritten at aol.com (philritten at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:58:32 EST Subject: [Healeys] Gas Caps Message-ID: The pump does pump a number of times (say 6 times) when I first turn on the key, and I've noticed lately that I have to crank it much longer before it will start. It used to start pretty quickly, even after sitting for a week. Could I be losing gas around the carbs? In a message dated 12/17/2009 8:54:45 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk writes: Could you not be losing fuel at the pump, where the line to the engine comes out? You'd - possibly - only get a leak when the pump was running, but could lose enough to make a noticeable difference over a while. As I understand it, you couldn't get a leak on the "inward" side of the pump. Simon -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of philritten at aol.com Sent: 17 December 2009 15:45 To: richard.ewald at gmail.com Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gas Caps All, The car is in a padlocked garage, with an older locking gas cap (and no teenagers). That's why I'm so puzzled. There is no smell of gas in the trunk, and no sign of leakage (under the car or at the fuel pump). Phil In a message dated 12/16/2009 10:03:32 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, richard.ewald at gmail.com writes: Rather than looking for a new gas cap, I think you should be looking for a guy with an Oklahoma credit card (a 3' long hose). I have never heard of that amount of gas evaporating in a week even if the cap is off. And the cap on your car had better be venting, or there will be problems. Rick On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 9:23 PM, wrote: > I seem to be losing a couple of gallons of gas a week while my car is in > storage. I don't smell any fumes, and don't see any leaks. I'm wondering if > perhaps my gas cap could be bad and be venting gas. Does anyone have > advice? > > Thanks, > Phil > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richard.ewald at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as philritten at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk http://www.team.net/archive From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Thu Dec 17 10:00:24 2009 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:00:24 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Missing gas Message-ID: This reminds me of a story George Burns tells about living near Jack Benny. George would sneak over to Jacks house every week and add two gallons of gas. Jack (being cheap) bragged about the fantastic millage he was getting. Then after several months George removed two gallon each week. He complained to the dealer about the crappy millage he was now getting. Rich Kahn _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ From richard.ewald at gmail.com Thu Dec 17 10:18:28 2009 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:18:28 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Gas Caps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It would depend on the temperature. The colder it is, the less will evaporate. Unless you are in one hell of a hot area, I don't think it is possible to evaporate that much fuel in a week. On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:54 AM, wrote: > Lets say for argument sake that I'm losing a gallon a week. If I took off > the gas cap entirely, is it possible for that much to "evaporate"? From kentmclean at comcast.net Thu Dec 17 10:55:46 2009 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:55:46 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] healey ID tag on ebay In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B2A70A2.1070205@comcast.net> Jim Ryan wrote: > I still have the car. In severe need of restoration (again) and sitting > outside under a tarp, but I just can't bear to let it go. My fantasy is > that one of my boys (22 & 25) will get settled down enough to inherit the > project. Daddeeeeeeeeeee! Love, -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 From richard.ewald at gmail.com Thu Dec 17 11:19:50 2009 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:19:50 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] healey ID tag on ebay In-Reply-To: <4B2A70A2.1070205@comcast.net> References: <4B2A70A2.1070205@comcast.net> Message-ID: Beat me to it. Rick On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Kent McLean wrote: > Jim Ryan wrote: > > I still have the car. In severe need of restoration (again) and sitting > > outside under a tarp, but I just can't bear to let it go. My fantasy is > > that one of my boys (22 & 25) will get settled down enough to inherit the > > project. > > Daddeeeeeeeeeee! > > Love, > -- > Kent McLean > '56 100 BN2 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richard.ewald at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From cabowley at hotmail.com Thu Dec 17 12:42:38 2009 From: cabowley at hotmail.com (Chris Bowley) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:42:38 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Speaking of tire Pressure In-Reply-To: References: <000a01ca7e46$0ffd00d0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q>, Message-ID: Here we go again... > From: amalin at mac.com > To: healeys at Autox.Team.Net > Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 08:29:16 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Speaking of tire Pressure > > Confucius say: "Man with one watch knows what time it is. Man with two > watches not sure." > > Al Malin > > > > On Dec 16, 2009, at 6:51 AM, Mark LaPierre wrote: > > > I have 3 pressure gauges that give me 3 different figures. Which > > one is > > correct? > > > > If air pressure is so important wouldn't you think that some one > > would make a > > gauge > > that gives a correct reading. And how do we really know what is > > correct? > > > > Mark > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > You are subscribed as amalin at mac.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as cabowley at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/soci al-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_1:092010 From jkrowe46 at bigpond.net.au Thu Dec 17 13:33:56 2009 From: jkrowe46 at bigpond.net.au (John & Kerry Rowe) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 06:33:56 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Dual Brake System In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20091217203402.UWLZ1743.nschwotgx01p.mx.bigpond.com@rowe4323ef3cc5> Hi Pieter I also had a 1"master cylinder on the BN1 with BJ8 front discs (though not tandem system) and had a hard pedal even with a PBR VH44 booster. Not a good feeling. Went to 7/8" and now works well John Rowe Qld Australia BN1 BT7 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pieter and Linda Sent: Friday, 18 December 2009 1:47 AM To: Alan Seigrist Cc: Healey Mailing List Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dual Brake System I have the wilwood 1" bore tandem master cylinder in my BJ7 combined with four pot front calipers and rear discs. It is a straight bolt in fit and easy to plumb but the pedal pressure is high. I would recomend a 7/8 bore. I am fitting a tandem brake booster over the winter so we will see what the pedal pressure is like then, cheers Pieter did see a Healey at Encounter in 2008 that had converted to a Dual From powellinsac at yahoo.com Thu Dec 17 13:35:01 2009 From: powellinsac at yahoo.com (Frank Powell) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:35:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] healey ID tag on ebay In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <179027.44028.qm@web111316.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> That's what I did last year. My father bought most of a BN2 in the early 1980s. He tore it apart and replaced the rusty parts of the chassis then I took over. I sold my Miata to him and he gave me the Healey. We'll have to see who got the better end of that bargain! Frank Powell --- On Thu, 12/17/09, Richard Ewald wrote: From: Richard Ewald Subject: Re: [Healeys] healey ID tag on ebay To: "Kent McLean" Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Date: Thursday, December 17, 2009, 10:19 AM Beat me to it. Rick On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Kent McLean wrote: > Jim Ryan wrote: > > I still have the car. In severe need of restoration (again) and sitting > > outside under a tarp, but I just can't bear to let it go. My fantasy is > > that one of my boys (22 & 25) will get settled down enough to inherit the > > project. > > Daddeeeeeeeeeee! > > Love, > -- > Kent McLean > '56 100 BN2 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richard.ewald at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as powellinsac at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive From dan at warner-associates.com Thu Dec 17 13:37:47 2009 From: dan at warner-associates.com (Dan Stromquist) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:37:47 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] 4 Post Frame Jacks Message-ID: <5B035E741E064B20B25EA9FA3B8A8135@DANSTROM> Cannot seem to find a 4 post jack that goes to the frame. Anyone found a 4 post jack that fits to the frame rather than under the wheels? Dan From mgcharlie at comcast.net Thu Dec 17 14:08:24 2009 From: mgcharlie at comcast.net (Charlie Baldwin) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:08:24 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Gas Caps In-Reply-To: <4B2A843A.5000407@comcast.net> References: <4B2A843A.5000407@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4B2A9DC8.4090503@comcast.net> How often do you start it? Maybe your floats have sunk and it is being pumped into the engine. > > philritten at aol.com wrote: >> The pump does pump a number of times (say 6 times) when I first turn >> on the key, and I've noticed lately that I have to crank it much >> longer before it will start. It used to start pretty quickly, even >> after sitting for a week. >> Could I be losing gas around the carbs? [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of mgcharlie.vcf] From fredwescoe at gmail.com Thu Dec 17 15:05:24 2009 From: fredwescoe at gmail.com (Fred Wescoe) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:05:24 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Distributors Message-ID: I need the collective wisdom of the list on this one. I have met a new owner of a 63 BJ7. The owner is extremely frustrated with the car. The car does not run. The distributor is a 25 D. The tip of vacuum advance unit is basically pointing toward the engine block, between plugs # 3 and # 4. On my car, also a 63 BJ7, the tip of the unit points toward the firewall. Is it possible the distributor is off 90 degrees? Everything I know, and can find, says the distributor is either correct or out 180 degrees. Nothing else is possible. So how is it possible for this one to be pointing toward the block? Any ideas? Also, the distributor needs a new rotor, plus a spare. This topic has been discussed many times but what has been the final opinion, with or without the rivet and who carries the correct one? What about the cap? I have done a compression check and get readings averaging 180 psi with no variation between cylinders of more that 5 lbs. The head was redone and new rings were installed. There are new carbs on the car. What gives? Fred 63 BJ7 From eyera3 at gmail.com Thu Dec 17 15:09:07 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:09:07 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] heatre control parts Message-ID: <173126440912171409g20e6eaf3j665f1e9368014746@mail.gmail.com> while attempting to remove the fresh air control knob the entire knob and metal piece it attaches to broke off from the cable. Moss' online charts are hard to decipher. can I buy the cable, knob and pull piece? If so what are he part #s. Also what for the other pull and knob. Might as well replace them both. Additioanlly, what comes in the *181* *322-215* *$10.95* *MOUNTING KIT, control panel* I bought a new panel, but it would be nice to replace the bolts and spacers.... Thanks. So far, right (port) rear dog leg and front fender bottom have been replaced. all rusted bits underneath have been fabricated and patched. Interior has been striped to metal. right side door is off with new bottom piece ready to be installed,Most bright work has been removed. Tranny tunnel is out, 2 of 3 dash bolts have been removed. Speedo is out, the rest of the gauges should be out this afternoon. then dash will be down. need to cut up a deep 5/8th socket to get the sending unit out of the block. Picked up a good usable left rear fender from John Wilson, its off to the blaster, then back for repair. The front fender bottom. Hopefully off to the paint remover and body shop by end of Jan. 2010. wow after 35 years of waiting this is all going so fast!!! -- I Erbs Portland, OR From editorgary at aol.com Thu Dec 17 15:16:23 2009 From: editorgary at aol.com (editorgary at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:16:23 EST Subject: [Healeys] Healeys under Tarps Message-ID: <3407.9477f0a.385c07b7@aol.com> In a message dated 12/17/09 11:09:49 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > > Jim Ryan wrote: > > I still have the car. In severe need of restoration (again) and sitting > > outside under a tarp, but I just can't bear to let it go. My fantasy is > > that one of my boys (22 & 25) will get settled down enough to inherit > the > > project. > To be totally blunt about this otherwise sweet ambition: by the time your boys get settled down enough to take on your Healey, there won't be anything there worth restoring, and the mechanic they hire to give them advice will tell them that they will essentially have to build a new Healey into the space where he will be removing all the vital parts, one by one, if they want to have something to remember you by. Any Healey being stored outside under a tarp, even in our climate, is rotting away, and has probably a five year life span before it makes absolutely no sense to do anything other than part it out for things like horn buttons and glove box locks that will still be worth their present value. So, nice as your desires are, they're unachievable. Find someone who will appreciate that car now, sell it to them for a fair price, and make arrangements for your sons to keep in touch. If they still love cars when they're 45 (which is the first time they'll have the time, money, and energy to restore the car), then they can buy it from the next owner, who will be ready to pass it on. Gary From Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com Thu Dec 17 15:46:10 2009 From: Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:46:10 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Distributors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D03420108@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> Fred, I like the rotor sold/made by Jeff the distributor rebuilder in Minnesota or Wisconsin. They do not have the counter weight, thus are small and fit my Allison ignition arrangement well. Ken Freese From peter at nosimport.com Thu Dec 17 15:56:59 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:56:59 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Distributors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200912171457856.SM01616@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> You can have the distributor pointing any way you want, just by moving wires around. It would seem checking the firing order, etc. would be a good place to start.... pun intended. Peter C ==== At 04:05 PM 12/17/2009, Fred Wescoe wrote: >I need the collective wisdom of the list on this one. > >I have met a new owner of a 63 BJ7. The owner is extremely frustrated with >the car. The car does not run. The distributor is a 25 D. The tip of >vacuum advance unit is basically pointing toward the engine block, between >plugs # 3 and # 4. On my car, also a 63 BJ7, the tip of the unit points >toward the firewall. Is it possible the distributor is off 90 degrees? >Everything I know, and can find, says the distributor is either correct or >out 180 degrees. Nothing else is possible. So how is it possible for this >one to be pointing toward the block? Any ideas? > >Also, the distributor needs a new rotor, plus a spare. This topic has been >discussed many times but what has been the final opinion, with or without >the rivet and who carries the correct one? What about the cap? > >I have done a compression check and get readings averaging 180 psi with no >variation between cylinders of more that 5 lbs. The head was redone and new >rings were installed. There are new carbs on the car. > >What gives? > >Fred >63 BJ7 From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Dec 17 16:54:22 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 23:54:22 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Healeys under Tarps In-Reply-To: <3407.9477f0a.385c07b7@aol.com> Message-ID: <1731912594.668821261094062742.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> When I first saw the subject I thought "Finally, the government is going to bail out Healey owners. 'Bout f'n time." bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA > > Jim Ryan wrote: > > I still have the car. In severe need of restoration (again) and sitting > > outside under a tarp, but I just can't bear to let it go. My fantasy is > > that one of my boys (22 & 25) will get settled down enough to inherit > the > > project. > To be totally blunt about this otherwise sweet ambition: by the time your boys get settled down enough to take on your Healey, there won't be anything there worth restoring, and the mechanic they hire to give them advice will tell them that they will essentially have to build a new Healey into the space where he will be removing all the vital parts, one by one, if they want to have something to remember you by. Any Healey being stored outside under a tarp, even in our climate, is rotting away, and has probably a five year life span before it makes absolutely no sense to do anything other than part it out for things like horn buttons and glove box locks that will still be worth their present value. So, nice as your desires are, they're unachievable. Find someone who will appreciate that car now, sell it to them for a fair price, and make arrangements for your sons to keep in touch. If they still love cars when they're 45 (which is the first time they'll have the time, money, and energy to restore the car), then they can buy it from the next owner, who will be ready to pass it on. Gary From wilkmanracing at aol.com Thu Dec 17 16:54:43 2009 From: wilkmanracing at aol.com (wilkmanracing at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:54:43 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Earthquakes and Lifts In-Reply-To: References: <8CC4CE42089DEAE-4ED4-B436@webmail-m094.sysops.aol.com> <02b501ca7ed0$2c9a7da0$85cf78e0$@net> Message-ID: <8CC4D8B7081BEC5-353C-22D4@webmail-d023.sysops.aol.com> Thanks, Rick. Good info. Bill Wilkman BT7 -----Original Message----- From: Richard Ewald To: John Sims Cc: wilkmanracing at aol.com; healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, Dec 16, 2009 8:56 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] Earthquakes and Lifts I'm a service manager at a large dealership in Southern California. We use twin post hoists, not 4 posters but the issues are the similar. The Sears in Northridge used to leave all their cars all the way up in the air so the cleaning crew could clean under them every night. From what I heard when the quake hit in 1994 the cars on those racks went down like dominoes. It is my understanding they lost 9 cars that night. Now I don't know if these were all in ground hoists or above ground units. About anchoring hoists, to bolt down a twin post hoist requires a 6" slab. Most if not all residential garages have a 4" slab. The solution is to cut out a section about 4 feet by 2' wider than the lift and pour a 6" slab in that area. So if your hoist legs are 10 feet apart, the slab would be 4X12. (had to do that with more than one hoist installation) But since these 4 post hoists are designed to work without bolting to the floor, you might be able to get by with just the 4" slab. Consult the hoist maker for more info. In the event of a quake the size of Northridge or above, I would want a hoist anchored to the floor. The movement in that quake, at my house, was more vertical than it was horizontal. My water heater walked away from the wall at the bottom (it was anchored at the top) and it wound up at a 30 degree angle. I would be afraid that a 4 post lift could walk and hit the car underneath, or the legs might spread and possibly collapse. I don't think that the top car falling is much of an issue for these type of hoists. With a single or a twin post I would have that concern. In closing let me pass along what I tell all of my techs to do in the event of an earthquake. RUN! get the hell out from under the cars, and get clear. Hope this helps. Rick On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 8:19 PM, John Sims wrote: Why not ask at one of your local repair shop what they do? Especially in the San Fernando Valley where I believe the last big one was??? John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ From Awgertoo at aol.com Thu Dec 17 17:21:43 2009 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:21:43 EST Subject: [Healeys] Decarbonizing technique? Message-ID: I heard this from an LBC oldtimer today: Pouring a cup or so of water through each carb while the engine is running is a good way of cleaning out the combustion chambers. I have never heard of this and were the fellow who told it to me not so experienced I would have dismissed it out of hand. So, has anyone ever run across this technique and does it work? Best--Michael Oritt From wilkmanracing at aol.com Thu Dec 17 17:21:50 2009 From: wilkmanracing at aol.com (wilkmanracing at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:21:50 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Earthquakes and Lifts In-Reply-To: References: <8CC4CE42089DEAE-4ED4-B436@webmail-m094.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CC4D8F3A51A950-353C-2887@webmail-d023.sysops.aol.com> I've thought about the same sort of anchoring, except the idea of using guy wires didn't occur to me. Of course the problem with anchoring the wires to the ground is that they would require a considerable distance of available space around the car. The wires would also interfere with movement around the car. What about extending the wires upward and anchoring them to ceiling joists? Bill Wilkman BT7 -----Original Message----- From: Alan Seigrist To: wilkmanracing at aol.com; healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, Dec 17, 2009 6:18 am Subject: Re: [Healeys] Earthquakes and Lifts Bill - I'm originally an engineer from Berzerkeley where we study these hings, and spent 6 years working for Bechtel. There is two ways to do this - keep it loose or anchor it down with guy wires. You don't want to just bolt the posts to the floor - with up to two ons six foot in the air that's potentially enough weight to break ost welds with lots of shaking - in some ways if you just left it on he wheels it'd probably just roll around rather than topple over if ou bolted 'er down. There are actually many buidings in Tokyo that have floating/rolling oundations for this very reason - loose at ground level is great for topping things from toppling over. The best thing to do, however, is to get guy wires and turnbuckles and onnect them to the top of all four posts then bolt the other end of he wire to the floor, preferably with the wire at a 45 deg angle to evel (but any angle past ~ 70 deg to level isn't as good) . This is he best protection to keep the lot from falling over and how many old asonry buldings are shored up to withstand quakes. The guy wires are ood because you can easily loosen them and move the lift around if ecessary. Alan On 12/17/09, wilkmanracing at aol.com wrote: I live in Southern California, AKA earthquake country. I have a four post lift that, like most four post lifts, does not have to be bolted down. One concern I have, however, is what happens to a car on the lift and a car below the lift in the case of an earthquake. Seems to me that a moderately strong earthquake could topple a lift leaving both the top and bottom cars in a bad state. But, just bolting a lift down would not seem to be enough. Unless the bolts extended well into a deep footing, I would think a moderately strong earthquake would pull the bolts out of the ground. Does anyone have any ideas as to how to earthquake-proof a lift? Bill Wilkman BT7 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com http://www.team.net/archive -- ent from my mobile device Alan '52 A90 53 BN1 59 Jag Mk IX 64 BJ8 From glemon at neb.rr.com Thu Dec 17 17:33:30 2009 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:33:30 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Decarbonizing technique? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Have heard of it, was explained to me as an old mechanics trick for decarbonizing, water gets in the carbon a little bit, rapidly vaporizes and takes the deposits off in theory I think, I have tried it, you get all sorts of interesting noises from the car, no apparent damage, no idea if it worked. Greg Lemon From rchaskell at earthlink.net Thu Dec 17 17:33:45 2009 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:33:45 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Decarbonizing technique? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B2ACDE9.8060006@earthlink.net> I've heard about it. Would think that it would be easier to do on a down draft carb than the side draft SU. Had a Toyota that blew a head gasket - to the coolant passages. The affected cylinders didn't have a bit of carbon. Bob Awgertoo at aol.com wrote: > I heard this from an LBC oldtimer today: Pouring a cup or so of water > through each carb while the engine is running is a good way of cleaning out the > combustion chambers. I have never heard of this and were the fellow who > told it to me not so experienced I would have dismissed it out of hand. > > So, has anyone ever run across this technique and does it work? > > Best--Michael Oritt > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as rchaskell at earthlink.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From healeyrick at yahoo.com Thu Dec 17 17:50:47 2009 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:50:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Decarbonizing technique? In-Reply-To: <4B2ACDE9.8060006@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <189447.11868.qm@web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I've heard of it ,too, as well as pouring uncooked rice into the combustion chambers. I think I'd rather go with Seafoam, or at the very least the old reliable "Italian Tune-Up" Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Thu, 12/17/09, Bob Haskell wrote: From: Bob Haskell Subject: Re: [Healeys] Decarbonizing technique? To: Awgertoo at aol.com Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Date: Thursday, December 17, 2009, 7:33 PM I've heard about it. Would think that it would be easier to do on a down draft carb than the side draft SU. Had a Toyota that blew a head gasket - to the coolant passages. The affected cylinders didn't have a bit of carbon. Bob Awgertoo at aol.com wrote: > I heard this from an LBC oldtimer today: Pouring a cup or so of water through each carb while the engine is running is a good way of cleaning out the combustion chambers. I have never heard of this and were the fellow who told it to me not so experienced I would have dismissed it out of hand. > So, has anyone ever run across this technique and does it work? > Best--Michael Oritt _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as rchaskell at earthlink.net > > http://www.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive From healeyrick at yahoo.com Thu Dec 17 18:00:08 2009 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:00:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Ponzi BN2 Message-ID: <373325.16938.qm@web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com> The ill gotten gains of an alleged Ponzi schemer are going up for auction in Utah in January. Amongst the lots in the US Marshals auction is a BN2 with reputed chassis # of BN2L228002. The car pictured appears to be a Cobra kit car. http://www.salesandauction.com/jan710.htm Don't know if there is actually a BN2 for auction, but might be worth checking out if you're in the market. Here's the backstory on how the cars came up for auction:http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=9057978 Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo From craigsuerice at iquest.net Thu Dec 17 18:08:35 2009 From: craigsuerice at iquest.net (Craig Rice) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 20:08:35 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Decarbonizing technique? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6A564545AD834884A06AA513A61FB69E@CraigHRicePC> Michael, It is the same process used to clean the exterior of the engine. It's called "steam cleaning". Craig Rice (from Indiana) BN1 & BN2 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 7:21 PM Subject: [Healeys] Decarbonizing technique? >I heard this from an LBC oldtimer today: Pouring a cup or so of water > through each carb while the engine is running is a good way of cleaning > out the > combustion chambers. I have never heard of this and were the fellow who > told it to me not so experienced I would have dismissed it out of hand. > > So, has anyone ever run across this technique and does it work? > > Best--Michael Oritt > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as craigsuerice at iquest.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From richard.ewald at gmail.com Thu Dec 17 18:13:30 2009 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:13:30 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Decarbonizing technique? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It does work, it will clean the pistons and combustion chambers, the water turns to steam and "steam cleans" the pistons. However there is a risk, if you get too much water in one cylinder you will either hydrolock the engine or bend a rod. both of these are generally considered as not a good thing. Rick On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Greg Lemon wrote: > Have heard of it, was explained to me as an old mechanics trick for > decarbonizing, water gets in the carbon a little bit, rapidly vaporizes and > takes the deposits off in theory I think, I have tried it, you get all sorts > of interesting noises from the car, no apparent damage, no idea if it > worked. From eyera3 at gmail.com Thu Dec 17 18:35:56 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:35:56 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Ponzi BN2 Message-ID: <4b2adc33.9513f30a.5172.ffffbc56@mx.google.com> Looks like it could be a one piece fiberglass front end on a 100-4 wierd looking cobra too. sent from my cellular PDA I Erbs -----Original Message----- From: HealeyRick Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 5:00 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Ponzi BN2 The ill gotten gains of an alleged Ponzi schemer are going up for auction in Utah in January. Amongst the lots in the US Marshals auction is a BN2 with reputed chassis # of BN2L228002. The car pictured appears to be a Cobra kit car. http://www.salesandauction.com/jan710.htm Don't know if there is actually a BN2 for auction, but might be worth checking out if you're in the market. Here's the backstory on how the cars came up for auction:http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=9057978 Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com http://www.team.net/archive From healeyrick at yahoo.com Thu Dec 17 18:41:44 2009 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:41:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Ponzi BN2 In-Reply-To: <4b2adc33.9513f30a.5172.ffffbc56@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <552385.88681.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com> If that's the case, they should bring some more criminal charges against him! Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Thu, 12/17/09, I Erbs wrote: From: I Erbs Subject: RE: [Healeys] Ponzi BN2 To: "HealeyRick" , healeys at autox.team.net Date: Thursday, December 17, 2009, 8:35 PM Looks like it could be a one piece fiberglass front end on a 100-4 wierd looking cobra too. sent from my cellular PDA I Erbs -----Original Message----- From: HealeyRick Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 5:00 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Ponzi BN2 The ill gotten gains of an alleged Ponzi schemer are going up for auction in Utah in January. Amongst the lots in the US Marshals auction is a BN2 with reputed chassis # of BN2L228002. The car pictured appears to be a Cobra kit car. http://www.salesandauction.com/jan710.htm Don't know if there is actually a BN2 for auction, but might be worth checking out if you're in the market. Here's the backstory on how the cars came up for auction:http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=9057978 Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com http://www.team.net/archive From insptwo at msn.com Thu Dec 17 18:41:48 2009 From: insptwo at msn.com (insptwo at msn.com) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 20:41:48 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Ponzi BN2 In-Reply-To: <373325.16938.qm@web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <373325.16938.qm@web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Those fenders are definitely for a kit car. Further down, they list a "Mercury/Desoto that is definitely an "oxymoron" such as military intelligence! Bill BJ7 > Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:00:08 -0800 > From: healeyrick at yahoo.com > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] Ponzi BN2 > > The ill gotten gains of an alleged Ponzi schemer are going up for auction in > Utah in January. Amongst the lots in the US Marshals auction is a BN2 with > reputed chassis # of BN2L228002. The car pictured appears to be a Cobra kit > car. http://www.salesandauction.com/jan710.htm Don't know if there is actually > a BN2 for auction, but might be worth checking out if you're in the market. > Here's the backstory on how the cars came up for > auction:http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=9057978 > Rick > > > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as insptwo at msn.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From 63ahbj7 at comcast.net Thu Dec 17 18:51:51 2009 From: 63ahbj7 at comcast.net (63ahbj7) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:51:51 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Ponzi BN2 In-Reply-To: <373325.16938.qm@web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <373325.16938.qm@web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4B2AE037.1030609@comcast.net> << Don't know if there is actually a BN2 for auction,>> Couldn't actually tell Rick, bit I sure would give up a knock-off or 2 for the '56 TWO door Nomad !!! Purple paint and bonnet [sans motor - re-sell it] CAN be fixed !!!! About as common as a real 100S !!!! Jealous POOR me !! From norman.hendry at shaw.ca Thu Dec 17 18:52:02 2009 From: norman.hendry at shaw.ca (Norman) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:52:02 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Decarbonizing technique? Message-ID: <6119447759474AA8B7921065DDA56017@your4dacd0ea75> Michael.... Never heard of using water, however; using brake fluid definately works. Norman From pennell at cox.net Thu Dec 17 20:37:30 2009 From: pennell at cox.net (pennell at cox.net) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 22:37:30 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Decarbonizing technique? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20091217223730.YYX8P.240895.imail@eastrmwml43> I have indeed heard of it and used it too. Did it a couple of times long ago on my parents 56 DeSoto and a little later on my brothers 55 Chevy. All sorts of stuff blows out the back and the engine makes some scary noises. No idea of how clean it got the cylinders though. I certainly would add the water sparingly as too much could probably lock up an engine. Probably no more than a tsp at a time and give the engine time to recover. With a downdraft carb this is easy to do. On our semidowndrafts it would be difficult. Perhaps using a fine mist from a spray bottle into the air filter may work. Don't believe I will try it though either way. Keith Pennell ---- Awgertoo at aol.com wrote: > I heard this from an LBC oldtimer today: Pouring a cup or so of water > through each carb while the engine is running is a good way of cleaning out the > combustion chambers. I have never heard of this and were the fellow who > told it to me not so experienced I would have dismissed it out of hand. > > So, has anyone ever run across this technique and does it work? > > Best--Michael Oritt > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as pennell at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Dec 17 21:18:31 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 12:18:31 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Ponzi BN2 In-Reply-To: <373325.16938.qm@web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <373325.16938.qm@web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: What's sort of weird is half the collection is real, the other half is replica. Why would anyone purchase so many replicas if they had the money? 300 vehicles! I agree on the Chev Nomad, would love to have that car. I'd take it back to stock, however.... Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 9:00 AM, HealeyRick wrote: > The ill gotten gains of an alleged Ponzi schemer are going up for auction > in > Utah in January. Amongst the lots in the US Marshals auction is a BN2 with > reputed chassis # of BN2L228002. The car pictured appears to be a Cobra > kit > car. http://www.salesandauction.com/jan710.htm Don't know if there is > actually > a BN2 for auction, but might be worth checking out if you're in the market. > Here's the backstory on how the cars came up for > auction:http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=9057978 > Rick > > > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From rcobb at earthlink.net Thu Dec 17 21:18:47 2009 From: rcobb at earthlink.net (R. Cobb) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 22:18:47 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Decarbonizing technique? Message-ID: <4B2B02A7.4060702@earthlink.net> Using water to decarbonize is a very old mechanic's trick. I recall using it first on my 1950 GMC pickup in the early 70's. The theory apparently is that the fluid water entering the combustion chamber breaks loose the carbon due to temperature differential/expansion as the water heats rapidly. The method I used was to pour a cup of water into the intake of the carburetor, with the air filter removed while controlling the throttle so the engine runs fast enough to not stall as the water is added. The only practical risk that I am aware of is that the small carbon particles that have broken free may get stuck beneath the valves, preventing them from seating fully. Never tried it on the Healey, due to lack of apparent need. Bob. From sales at justbrits.com Thu Dec 17 21:29:15 2009 From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ") Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 22:29:15 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Ponzi BN2 In-Reply-To: References: <373325.16938.qm@web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4B2B051B.6030606@justbrits.com> << I'd take it back to stock, however....>> As I said Alan...... Purple paint and bonnet [sans motor - re-sell it] CAN be fixed !!!! I would return to Stock SO FAST the folks at Barrett-Jackson would be calling ME !!!!! !!!!! From gbrierton at hotmail.com Thu Dec 17 22:10:33 2009 From: gbrierton at hotmail.com (gary brierton) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 00:10:33 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Ponzi BN2 In-Reply-To: References: <373325.16938.qm@web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: About a dozen of these cars are mislabeled!? What the.....? A Mercury Desoto! GaryB -------------------------------------------------- From: "Alan Seigrist" Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 11:18 PM To: "HealeyRick" Cc: Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ponzi BN2 > What's sort of weird is half the collection is real, the other half is > replica. Why would anyone purchase so many replicas if they had the > money? > 300 vehicles! > > I agree on the Chev Nomad, would love to have that car. I'd take it back > to > stock, however.... > > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '59 Jag Mk IX > '64 BJ8 From magnuskarlsson at bornet.net Thu Dec 17 22:34:00 2009 From: magnuskarlsson at bornet.net (Magnus Karlsson) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 06:34:00 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Distributors In-Reply-To: <200912171457856.SM01616@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <200912171457856.SM01616@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: I would check the drive gear in the block. The gear that is driven by the cam shaft and in turn drives the housing or adaptor for the distributor. This gear can be positioned at any angle but only one is right. Check the worhshop manual for the correct position. Magnus Karlsson Sweden www.concourshealeys.com 17 dec 2009 kl. 23.56 skrev Peter Caldwell: > You can have the distributor pointing any way you want, just by > moving wires around. It would seem checking the firing order, etc. > would be a good place to start.... pun intended. > Peter C > ==== > At 04:05 PM 12/17/2009, Fred Wescoe wrote: >> I need the collective wisdom of the list on this one. >> >> I have met a new owner of a 63 BJ7. The owner is extremely >> frustrated with >> the car. The car does not run. The distributor is a 25 D. The >> tip of >> vacuum advance unit is basically pointing toward the engine block, >> between >> plugs # 3 and # 4. On my car, also a 63 BJ7, the tip of the unit >> points >> toward the firewall. Is it possible the distributor is off 90 >> degrees? >> Everything I know, and can find, says the distributor is either >> correct or >> out 180 degrees. Nothing else is possible. So how is it possible >> for this >> one to be pointing toward the block? Any ideas? >> >> Also, the distributor needs a new rotor, plus a spare. This topic >> has been >> discussed many times but what has been the final opinion, with or >> without >> the rivet and who carries the correct one? What about the cap? >> >> I have done a compression check and get readings averaging 180 psi >> with no >> variation between cylinders of more that 5 lbs. The head was >> redone and new >> rings were installed. There are new carbs on the car. >> >> What gives? >> >> Fred >> 63 BJ7 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as magnuskarlsson at bornet.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From coudesluijs at chello.nl Thu Dec 17 23:44:12 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 07:44:12 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Distributors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B2B24BC.40503@chello.nl> Seamingly the distributor can be "off" 60, 120, 180, 240 or 300degrees depending on how it is fitted. It is hardly possible to fit the shaft out 180 degrees because the dogs are offset. The main thing is that when no. 1 piston is on TDC in the compression stroke the rotor is directing to the plugwire for no. 1 cilinder on the distributor cap and that the correct firing order (WSM) is adhered to. It does not matter which way the vacuum capsule is positioned as long as there is room to set the timing and it does not interfere with other parts of the engine. Compression seems to be perfect, considering it is presumably measured with a cold engine. The new carbs of course need proper setting and balancing, starting from the basic position folowing the procedure as written down in the WSM. Kees Oudesluijs NL Fred Wescoe schreef: > I need the collective wisdom of the list on this one. > > I have met a new owner of a 63 BJ7. The owner is extremely frustrated with > the car. The car does not run. The distributor is a 25 D. The tip of > vacuum advance unit is basically pointing toward the engine block, between > plugs # 3 and # 4. On my car, also a 63 BJ7, the tip of the unit points > toward the firewall. Is it possible the distributor is off 90 degrees? > Everything I know, and can find, says the distributor is either correct or > out 180 degrees. Nothing else is possible. So how is it possible for this > one to be pointing toward the block? Any ideas? > > Also, the distributor needs a new rotor, plus a spare. This topic has been > discussed many times but what has been the final opinion, with or without > the rivet and who carries the correct one? What about the cap? > > I have done a compression check and get readings averaging 180 psi with no > variation between cylinders of more that 5 lbs. The head was redone and new > rings were installed. There are new carbs on the car. > > What gives? > > Fred > 63 BJ7 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 9.0.716 / Virusdatabase: 270.14.111/2570 - datum van uitgifte: 12/17/09 09:30:00 From coudesluijs at chello.nl Fri Dec 18 00:07:14 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 08:07:14 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Decarbonizing technique? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B2B2A22.3080801@chello.nl> It is a known trick of the trade as is pouring down brake fluid (ATF is another I have heard about). It might help a bit for a while but the only proper way is doing it the hard way: lift the cilinder head and remove the carbon deposits in the head, on the valves and on the piston tops. Kees Oudesluijs NL Awgertoo at aol.com schreef: > I heard this from an LBC oldtimer today: Pouring a cup or so of water > through each carb while the engine is running is a good way of cleaning out the > combustion chambers. I have never heard of this and were the fellow who > told it to me not so experienced I would have dismissed it out of hand. > > So, has anyone ever run across this technique and does it work? > > Best--Michael Oritt From healey.nut at gmail.com Fri Dec 18 01:01:34 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 16:01:34 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Earthquakes and Lifts In-Reply-To: <8CC4D8F3A51A950-353C-2887@webmail-d023.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC4CE42089DEAE-4ED4-B436@webmail-m094.sysops.aol.com> <8CC4D8F3A51A950-353C-2887@webmail-d023.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Bill - You definitely don't want to wire the hoist to the ceiling because in an earthquake, the higher you go the more amplitude of movement you'll get, plus the rafters typically will be in exact opposite phase of sinusoidal movement. You don't want the rafters shaking your hoist one way while the ground is shaking the other way. Plus I doubt the rafters are strong enough to hold a car anyway. Front to back motion can be fixed easily by running a guy wire from the bottom of a front post to the top of the rear post (on the same side), and then the top of the other front post to the bottom of the other rear post. That will keep the hoist from collapsing front to back and I assume there'd be no problems with access or room in the garage if you do it this way. You could do the same wire bracing on the back (in an X) to minimize side to side motion of the hoist, but obviously the front you need the opening clear to drive on and off the lift. For front of hoist side to side motion, you could run guy wires from the top of the front posts to the 2x4s in your wall - you'd best do it on both sides. something like this: Front: _ | | Back: _ |X| Left Side: _ |/| Right Side: _ |\| Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 8:21 AM, wrote: > I've thought about the same sort of anchoring, except the idea of using guy > wires didn't occur to me. Of course the problem with anchoring the wires to > the ground is that they would require a considerable distance of available > space around the car. The wires would also interfere with movement around > the car. What about extending the wires upward and anchoring them to > ceiling joists? > > Bill Wilkman > BT7 From grday at btinternet.com Fri Dec 18 03:23:22 2009 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:23:22 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Decarbonizing technique? References: <4B2B2A22.3080801@chello.nl> Message-ID: <4D4B3BACEAB74564889BC8D4E165EA71@user8634b3d69b> Trickling a pint of water through the carb(s) of a hot engine revving around 3000 rpm was one of the things done in the older automotive times although I have not heard of using ATF or brake fluid. I can see no reason why it shouldn't work, but it may be rather smoky! I was cautioned against the process by a guy who explained that it can remove carbon build up in chunks which can cause damage to the valves as they attempt to pass through. I suppose if it was done every 6 months or so you wouldn't get enough build up to create chunks.... During war years and in the 50's it was used on a regular basis as it was meant to keep an engine cool and water injection kits were sold for a similar purpose - but I never played with them. Guy R Day From ahbn6 at verizon.net Fri Dec 18 04:53:08 2009 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 06:53:08 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Decarbonizing technique? In-Reply-To: <4D4B3BACEAB74564889BC8D4E165EA71@user8634b3d69b> References: <4B2B2A22.3080801@chello.nl> <4D4B3BACEAB74564889BC8D4E165EA71@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: <03da01ca7fd8$ab618940$02249bc0$@net> I remember years ago there were products on the market that did the same thing = Bardahl or something like that. When you poured it down the throat of the carburetor, they create a lot of smoke in the exhaust. There were called instant tune-ups weren't they? John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Guy R Day Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 5:23 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Decarbonizing technique? Trickling a pint of water through the carb(s) of a hot engine revving around 3000 rpm was one of the things done in the older automotive times although I have not heard of using ATF or brake fluid. I can see no reason why it shouldn't work, but it may be rather smoky! I was cautioned against the process by a guy who explained that it can remove carbon build up in chunks which can cause damage to the valves as they attempt to pass through. I suppose if it was done every 6 months or so you wouldn't get enough build up to create chunks.... During war years and in the 50's it was used on a regular basis as it was meant to keep an engine cool and water injection kits were sold for a similar purpose - but I never played with them. Guy R Day Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as ahbn6 at verizon.net http://www.team.net/archive From pryner at verizon.net Fri Dec 18 05:58:57 2009 From: pryner at verizon.net (Peter Ryner) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 07:58:57 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Decarbonizing technique? In-Reply-To: <03da01ca7fd8$ab618940$02249bc0$@net> References: <4B2B2A22.3080801@chello.nl> <4D4B3BACEAB74564889BC8D4E165EA71@user8634b3d69b> <03da01ca7fd8$ab618940$02249bc0$@net> Message-ID: I had an uncle who always bought used cars and the first thing he did was to put a quart of "top oil" in a full tank of gas to clean the engine. Worked fine until he bought a car with a large amount of carbon build up. Just like someone else pointed out - the carbon broke loose in chunks and broke several valves. The engine had to be totally rebuilt. If there is a chance of having large carbon deposits in the engine I would recommend pulling the head and cleaning mechanically. When parts were inexpensive and plentiful it may have made sense to take a chance. Times have changed and our engines are too valuable to try a quick fix for a sick engine. To keep the carbon down use the car like it was intended - drive it! My $.02 Pete From peter at nosimport.com Fri Dec 18 07:13:11 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 08:13:11 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Decarbonizing technique? In-Reply-To: <4B2B2A22.3080801@chello.nl> References: <4B2B2A22.3080801@chello.nl> Message-ID: <200912180613691.SM01616@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> The ATF was to "restore" hydraulic lifters, not for cleaning valves. Seafoam product is intended for upper cylinder cleaning. Good stuff by many reports. Peter C = At 01:07 AM 12/18/2009, Oudesluys wrote: >It is a known trick of the trade as is pouring down brake fluid (ATF >is another I have heard about). It might help a bit for a while but >the only proper way is doing it the hard way: lift the cilinder head >and remove the carbon deposits in the head, on the valves and on the >piston tops. >Kees Oudesluijs >NL > >Awgertoo at aol.com schreef: >>I heard this from an LBC oldtimer today: Pouring a cup or so of water >>through each carb while the engine is running is a good way of >>cleaning out the combustion chambers. I have never heard of this >>and were the fellow who >>told it to me not so experienced I would have dismissed it out of hand. >> >>So, has anyone ever run across this technique and does it work? >> >>Best--Michael Oritt >_______________________________________________ From ourxke at hotmail.com Fri Dec 18 07:45:22 2009 From: ourxke at hotmail.com (Ken Wignall) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 09:45:22 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Ponzi BN2 In-Reply-To: <4b2adc33.9513f30a.5172.ffffbc56@mx.google.com> References: <4b2adc33.9513f30a.5172.ffffbc56@mx.google.com> Message-ID: The windscreen appears to be BN2 with the knobs on the top sides for clamping the soft top, as well as the feet on the fender tops for reclining it. > From: eyera3 at gmail.com > Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:35:56 -0800 > To: healeyrick at yahoo.com; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ponzi BN2 > > Looks like it could be a one piece fiberglass front end on a 100-4 wierd > looking cobra too. > > sent from my cellular PDA > I Erbs > > -----Original Message----- > From: HealeyRick > Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 5:00 PM > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] Ponzi BN2 > > The ill gotten gains of an alleged Ponzi schemer are going up for auction in > Utah in January. Amongst the lots in the US Marshals auction is a BN2 with > reputed chassis # of BN2L228002. The car pictured appears to be a Cobra kit > car. http://www.salesandauction.com/jan710.htm Don't know if there is > actually > a BN2 for auction, but might be worth checking out if you're in the market. > Here's the backstory on how the cars came up for > auction:http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=9057978 > Rick > > > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as ourxke at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/ From Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com Fri Dec 18 08:16:14 2009 From: Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 07:16:14 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Moss Chinese calipers thread size Message-ID: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D03420119@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> Anybody know the thread size of the bleeder screws for the Chinese BJ8 calipers? The wrench hex is 10 mm and what protrudes from the casting seems to be just a bit under 9mm or .343 inches. A stock caliper is 1/4-28 thread. I don't want to remove the Chinese screws until I have new Speed Bleeders in hand. If I can't get a better pedal tomorrow, I will have to get the Speed Bleeders or rebuild my old calipers. Thanks, Ken Freese 65 BJ8 From richchrysler at quickclic.net Fri Dec 18 09:22:09 2009 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:22:09 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] heatre control parts References: <173126440912171409g20e6eaf3j665f1e9368014746@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Ira, The new replacement cables and knobs will do the job but there are small differences. The outer chrome threaded ring is much thicker on the repro. The knobs (Push and Pull) have their locking holes not quite in the right place so that you will have to carefully enlarge the holes for the shaft pin to be able to pop into place. The replacement cable for the heater air supply (right side) will need to be worked sharply into a spiralled S shape to fit from knob end to air flap end. Note the shape of the original you took out. It is quite easy to accidentally break that new control plate if these cables aren't worked into the right shape and adjusted carefully. Same for the heater slide control cable to the heater water valve. Also make sure the rubber insulator sleeves attaching the two black feed wires through the heater boost switch are intact. Bare wires there from deteriorated insulation can be a hazard. If you don't want to bother with rubber shrink tubing, I've used some liquid connector coating (available from electronic supply stores) there with great success. Just brush on to the exposed surfaces and it sets up in minutes with a rubbery black coating. I always simply clean the parts that Moss is calling their "mounting kit" and have the items replated (zinc). I'd guess the kit would consist of two 10-32 thread long hex bolts, two lockwashers, two nuts, two shallow round spacers and two deep round spacers. Original red fibre packing pieces should also be used (use originals if necessry). Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "I Erbs" To: "healey help" Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 5:09 PM Subject: [Healeys] heatre control parts > while attempting to remove the fresh air control knob the entire knob and > metal piece it attaches to broke off from the cable. Moss' online charts > are > hard to decipher. can I buy the cable, knob and pull piece? If so what are > he part #s. Also what for the other pull and knob. Might as well replace > them both. Additioanlly, what comes in the > *181* > > *322-215* *$10.95* *MOUNTING KIT, control panel* > > > I bought a new panel, but it would be nice to replace the bolts and > spacers.... > Thanks. > I Erbs > Portland, OR From ahbugeye1 at bellsouth.net Fri Dec 18 09:28:25 2009 From: ahbugeye1 at bellsouth.net (J E JR AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 08:28:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] BJ7 REAR SEAT MOUNTING. Message-ID: <557104.7919.qm@web180405.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I need help again. B I am trying to mount the rear seat on my BJ7 and am missing some of the original mounting holes (they were lost during reconstruction surgery).B I have been unable to find a picture of this area that I am comfortable enough withB to start drilling.B My questions: There are two holes that mount the seat brackets to the (inner wheel arch) fender wells. The top hole is in place, but I am missing the bottom hole. I need the measurement, from inside of the fender well, of the distance from the rear mounting bump box bolt, to the center of the bottom mounting nut, for the seat bracket. Ibm trying to make sure I get the seat set at the right angle. The next item is the location of the hinges on the seat back and the mounting holes in the body. Looking at the old back seat cover and the Bb border around the sides and top of the back plywood, but not at the bottom, as far as I can determine (the bottom part of the seat back is missing).B If the seat hinge mounts to this B< inch plywood, it doesnbt seem that it would be very sturdy, is this correct?B In addition, does the hinge mount directly to the chassis/ seat floor?B The Service Parts List does show anything under the hinge. TIAB Sam Austin From mayorrichard at hotmail.com Fri Dec 18 13:02:12 2009 From: mayorrichard at hotmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:02:12 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Dual Brake System In-Reply-To: <20091217203402.UWLZ1743.nschwotgx01p.mx.bigpond.com@rowe4323ef3cc5> References: , <20091217203402.UWLZ1743.nschwotgx01p.mx.bigpond.com@rowe4323ef3cc5> Message-ID: Listmates, Just remember, a small master cylinder bore will result in less pedal pressure. And yes, it sounds counter intuitive but it is correct. Get over it. The ONLY reason to use a larger bore master cylinder is if you need to move a greater volume of fluid. For example, if your master cylinder piston bottoms out. My suggestion is to all who read this -- start with a 5/8" master cylinder and only go up in size if you need to move more fuid to makes things work properly. Remember, bigger bore size means more pedal pressure! Richard Mayor > From: jkrowe46 at bigpond.net.au > To: pieters at pt.lu > Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 06:33:56 +1000 > CC: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dual Brake System > > Hi Pieter > I also had a 1"master cylinder on the BN1 with BJ8 front discs (though not > tandem system) and had a hard pedal even with a PBR VH44 booster. Not a good > feeling. Went to 7/8" and now works well > > John Rowe Qld Australia > BN1 BT7 > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Pieter and Linda > Sent: Friday, 18 December 2009 1:47 AM > To: Alan Seigrist > Cc: Healey Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dual Brake System > > I have the wilwood 1" bore tandem master cylinder in my BJ7 combined > with four pot front calipers and rear discs. It is a straight bolt in > fit and easy to plumb but the pedal pressure is high. I would recomend > a 7/8 bore. I am fitting a tandem brake booster over the winter so we > will see what the pedal pressure is like then, > cheers > Pieter > did see a Healey at Encounter in 2008 that had converted to a Dual > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as mayorrichard at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ From mgtd51 at comcast.net Fri Dec 18 17:10:58 2009 From: mgtd51 at comcast.net (MGTD51) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 19:10:58 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Dual Brake System In-Reply-To: References: , <20091217203402.UWLZ1743.nschwotgx01p.mx.bigpond.com@rowe4323ef3cc5> Message-ID: <4B2C1A12.5000105@comcast.net> It is not counter intuitive. If the master cylinder bore is the same as the slave cylinder bore, you get a 1 to 1 advantage. I believe a 5/8 bore produces a 2 to 1 advantage due to a larger surface area at the slave. Larry richard mayor wrote: > Listmates, Just remember, a small master cylinder bore will result in less > pedal pressure. And yes, it sounds counter intuitive but it is correct. Get > over it. The ONLY reason to use a larger bore master cylinder is if you need > to move a greater volume of fluid. For example, if your master cylinder piston > bottoms out. My suggestion is to all who read this -- start with a 5/8" master > cylinder and only go up in size if you need to move more fuid to makes things > work properly. Remember, bigger bore size means more pedal pressure! Richard > Mayor > > >> From: jkrowe46 at bigpond.net.au >> To: pieters at pt.lu >> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 06:33:56 +1000 >> CC: healeys at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dual Brake System >> >> Hi Pieter >> I also had a 1"master cylinder on the BN1 with BJ8 front discs (though not >> tandem system) and had a hard pedal even with a PBR VH44 booster. Not a >> > good > >> feeling. Went to 7/8" and now works well >> >> John Rowe Qld Australia >> BN1 BT7 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net >> > [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > >> On Behalf Of Pieter and Linda >> Sent: Friday, 18 December 2009 1:47 AM >> To: Alan Seigrist >> Cc: Healey Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Dual Brake System >> >> I have the wilwood 1" bore tandem master cylinder in my BJ7 combined >> with four pot front calipers and rear discs. It is a straight bolt in >> fit and easy to plumb but the pedal pressure is high. I would recomend >> a 7/8 bore. I am fitting a tandem brake booster over the winter so we >> will see what the pedal pressure is like then, >> cheers >> Pieter >> did see a Healey at Encounter in 2008 that had converted to a Dual >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as mayorrichard at hotmail.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as mgtd51 at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Fri Dec 18 19:28:41 2009 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 02:28:41 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?decarbonizing?= Message-ID: <20091219022841.16687.qmail@server278.com> tried it on my car to see if i could stop the dieseling. used a spray bottle and shot it in. no luck. could be i did not use enough, or did not put it in quickly enough, but definite dud for me. hjim From rhss at neo.rr.com Fri Dec 18 21:20:09 2009 From: rhss at neo.rr.com (Bob) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 23:20:09 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] WHERE TO BUY AMERICAN GASOLINE ? Message-ID: <4B2C5479.6040608@neo.rr.com> From keithbailey5 at bigpond.com Fri Dec 18 22:42:45 2009 From: keithbailey5 at bigpond.com (Keith Bailey) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 15:42:45 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] tyres Message-ID: Hi All Thank you for the advise offered in selecting tyres for my BT7 Regards Keith BT7 BN1 From grday at btinternet.com Sat Dec 19 02:12:17 2009 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 09:12:17 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] decarbonizing References: <20091219022841.16687.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: <5966792FCF7A44FFA7C2F2CA8ECE5711@user8634b3d69b> Shouldn't it be poured in (approx 1 pint) around 3000rpm to make the engine cough, splutter and burp but not stop! It will not alter your timing. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 2:28 AM Subject: [Healeys] decarbonizing > tried it on my car to see if i could stop the dieseling. used a spray > bottle and shot it in. no luck. could be i did not use enough, or did > not put it in quickly enough, but definite dud for me. hjim > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as grday at btinternet.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From s.hutchings at rogers.com Sat Dec 19 13:27:28 2009 From: s.hutchings at rogers.com (Stephen Hutchings) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 15:27:28 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] King pins Message-ID: I posted a question about this a while back and didn't get any responses, so I thought I'd have another go. There was some excess metal left on the bottom of my new kingpins where they had been machined...specifically where the hole for the cotter pin meets the opening for the threaded fulcrum. I carefully cleaned this out, but I'd like to know how tight the fit of the threaded fulcrum should be. Is this an intereference fit like a bearing? Or is a bit of burr in there making it tighter than it should be. To put it more simply, what's the procedure of fitting the fulcrums usually like? The cotter pin seems tight too, before I get any thread coming out of the other end to get ahold of. Hope this is clear, Thanks, Stephen, BJ8 From ynotink at msn.com Sat Dec 19 14:23:21 2009 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 21:23:21 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] King pins In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I may be corrected on this, but in my opinion the threaded fulcrum pin should be a tight sliding fit in the lower trunnion. When installed it should not have any play and it should not rotate in use. If it is tight going together that is probably good. Bill Lawrence > Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 15:27:28 -0500 > To: healeys at autox.team.net > From: s.hutchings at rogers.com > Subject: [Healeys] King pins > > I posted a question about this a while back and didn't get any > responses, so I thought I'd have another go. > There was some excess metal left on the bottom of my new kingpins > where they had been machined...specifically where the hole for the > cotter pin meets the opening for the threaded fulcrum. I carefully > cleaned this out, but I'd like to know how tight the fit of the > threaded fulcrum should be. Is this an intereference fit like a > bearing? Or is a bit of burr in there making it tighter than it > should be. To put it more simply, what's the procedure of fitting the > fulcrums usually like? The cotter pin seems tight too, before I get > any thread coming out of the other end to get ahold of. > Hope this is clear, > Thanks, > Stephen, BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as ynotink at msn.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From rchaskell at earthlink.net Sat Dec 19 15:33:37 2009 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 17:33:37 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] King pins In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B2D54C1.6000107@earthlink.net> Stephen, If you can feel any lip on the bore of the king pin, you should remove it. The fulcrum pin needs to fit snuggly, with good contact all around the bore. If there's lip that holds the fulcrum pin away from the surface, the joint may loosen over time. You can remove a little material on the flat tapered section of the cotter pin with a file. You don't want to change the angle of the taper, just make the cotter pin thinner. The pin will then go in farther. Just take a little bit off at a time and test fit it. Repeat. It's easier to remove material than to put it back on. :) Bob Stephen Hutchings wrote: > I posted a question about this a while back and didn't get any > responses, so I thought I'd have another go. > There was some excess metal left on the bottom of my new kingpins where > they had been machined...specifically where the hole for the cotter pin > meets the opening for the threaded fulcrum. I carefully cleaned this > out, but I'd like to know how tight the fit of the threaded fulcrum > should be. Is this an intereference fit like a bearing? Or is a bit of > burr in there making it tighter than it should be. To put it more > simply, what's the procedure of fitting the fulcrums usually like? The > cotter pin seems tight too, before I get any thread coming out of the > other end to get ahold of. > Hope this is clear, > Thanks, > Stephen, BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as rchaskell at earthlink.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Sat Dec 19 15:55:46 2009 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 14:55:46 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] license plate stickers Message-ID: Anybody have any idea how to remove the yearly stickers on the plates? I've been told hot water but nothing happens. Rich Kahn _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ From healey3000bn7 at yahoo.com Sat Dec 19 16:11:47 2009 From: healey3000bn7 at yahoo.com (Carlos Cruz) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 15:11:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Decarbonizing technique? In-Reply-To: <189447.11868.qm@web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <189447.11868.qm@web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <867843.92453.qm@web50006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> A little ice, a shot of espresso and some cream into the combustion chambers - WaLa - instant Frappacinno ________________________________ From: HealeyRick To: Awgertoo at aol.com; Bob Haskell Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, December 17, 2009 7:50:47 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Decarbonizing technique? I've heard of it ,too, as well as pouring uncooked rice into the combustion chambers. I think I'd rather go with Seafoam, or at the very least the old reliable "Italian Tune-Up" Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Thu, 12/17/09, Bob Haskell wrote: From: Bob Haskell Subject: Re: [Healeys] Decarbonizing technique? To: Awgertoo at aol.com Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Date: Thursday, December 17, 2009, 7:33 PM I've heard about it. Would think that it would be easier to do on a down draft carb than the side draft SU. Had a Toyota that blew a head gasket - to the coolant passages. The affected cylinders didn't have a bit of carbon. Bob Awgertoo at aol.com wrote: > I heard this from an LBC oldtimer today: Pouring a cup or so of water through each carb while the engine is running is a good way of cleaning out the combustion chambers. I have never heard of this and were the fellow who told it to me not so experienced I would have dismissed it out of hand. > So, has anyone ever run across this technique and does it work? > Best--Michael Oritt _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Dec 19 16:20:32 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 15:20:32 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] license plate stickers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B2D5FC0.50001@comcast.net> Heat gun. bs Richard Kahn wrote: > Anybody have any idea how to remove the yearly stickers on the plates? I've > been told hot water but nothing happens. > Rich Kahn > > _________________________________________________________________ > ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From 63ahbj7 at comcast.net Sat Dec 19 16:34:57 2009 From: 63ahbj7 at comcast.net (63ahbj7) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 17:34:57 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] license plate stickers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B2D6321.1020504@comcast.net> From cbaustin at verizon.net Sat Dec 19 16:54:44 2009 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 18:54:44 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Looking for Brake Pipe Message-ID: <52EFF87237624077AF704B6B23EDB445@universal1> I need one of the pipes that connect the two front wheel cylinders. I would really like to get one in copper, as those sold by Automec. I believe their part number is 7F for that pipe. This is for a '54 100 but I think all the BN-1 sets are the same. If anyone has one, or a suitable alternative, offline is fine; regards and thanks, CB From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Sat Dec 19 17:03:53 2009 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Len and/or Marge Hartnett) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 16:03:53 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] license plate stickers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6887985F67504EFFB5180A4F8DBE0C22@LeonardPCPC> Rich: I Googled "remove+license+plate+stickers". The suggestions on just the first page included: chisel tip Xacto blade; regular hair dryer (already suggested on List if I recall. It worked for me on Scotch Tape); steam plus 3M wax and adhesive remover; GooGone; steam from tea kettle; Spray & Wash; hair dryer or heat gun plus razor blade; heat plate from behind. There would be others in the 224,000 links found. ;-) These suggestions pertained to various registration stickers as well as license plates. Here is one from me: If freezing chewing gum on a carpet makes it easy to remove, what would happen if you froze the licence plate/sticker then tried to get under it and pry it off? Would it pop off or break? It was noted that the adhesive used is designed to thwart theft of stickers and the stickers are very brittle and tear easily. Extreme care must be taken. I'm sure you already knew that. (The Other) Len Vacaville, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Kahn" To: Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 2:55 PM Subject: [Healeys] license plate stickers > Anybody have any idea how to remove the yearly stickers on the plates? > I've > been told hot water but nothing happens. > Rich Kahn From sales at justbrits.com Sat Dec 19 17:07:50 2009 From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ") Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 18:07:50 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] license plate stickers In-Reply-To: <4B2D6321.1020504@comcast.net> References: <4B2D6321.1020504@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4B2D6AD6.5050106@justbrits.com> << Anybody have any idea how to remove the yearly stickers on the plates? >> Richard, I've got 5 cars to do that job to and I use "Busty" and brake cleaner I sell . [BEST in the world !!!!] They peel right off with small putty knife. << I've been told hot water but nothing happens. >> Yep, I'll bet THAT wouldn't work !!! Ed Please visit my site at: www.justbrits.com From ah3000me at gmail.com Sat Dec 19 17:22:08 2009 From: ah3000me at gmail.com (Tom) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 19:22:08 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Decarbonizing technique? In-Reply-To: References: <189447.11868.qm@web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <867843.92453.qm@web50006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I picked up a can of Mopar combustion chamber cleaner for my Jeep from my local parts guy. He knew I had a Healey, and he cautioned me to not use the stuff in my Healey. - Tom From richard.ewald at gmail.com Sat Dec 19 18:11:57 2009 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 17:11:57 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] license plate stickers In-Reply-To: <4B2D6AD6.5050106@justbrits.com> References: <4B2D6321.1020504@comcast.net> <4B2D6AD6.5050106@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <0903888C-9A21-4286-B4D5-0A89E4DC8B16@gmail.com> What, or is that who, is "Busty"? Inquiring minds want to know. R Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2009, at 16:07, "Sales at \" Just Brits \"" wrote: > << Anybody have any idea how to remove the yearly stickers > on the plates? >> > > Richard, I've got 5 cars to do that job to and I use "Busty" > and brake cleaner I sell . [BEST in the world !!!!] They > peel right off with small putty knife. From s.hutchings at rogers.com Sat Dec 19 19:30:45 2009 From: s.hutchings at rogers.com (Stephen Hutchings) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 21:30:45 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Kingpins Message-ID: Thanks for all the answers. It sounds like the consensus is that the threaded fulcrum piece should be tight and go in with a tap, the trick being to line up the flat for the cotter pin properly. It sounds like I may have to file the cotter pin so that it will go in far enough; has anybody else had to do this? Stephen, BJ8 From healeyray at yahoo.com Sat Dec 19 19:40:34 2009 From: healeyray at yahoo.com (Ray Juncal) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 18:40:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] license plate stickers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <869201.24355.qm@web111415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Rich I have not tried to remove license plate stickers specifically but I have found that "Besteen Rubber Cement Thinner" is solvent for most adhesives and will not attack paint or plastic. You can get it at your art supply store. I suggest soaking over time with careful probing of the glue joint with a thin blade (like a pallet knife, also from the art store) The stickers get crispy when old so be careful. Lacquer thinner would be my next choice but it might affect the paint. Try it on the back of the plate first. You got me thinking now. I am going to dig out an old plate if I can find one and see what works. There are several other options like "Goof Off" but they can attack some paint. Regards Ray Juncal --- On Sat, 12/19/09, Richard Kahn wrote: From: Richard Kahn Subject: [Healeys] license plate stickers To: healeys at autox.team.net Date: Saturday, December 19, 2009, 2:55 PM Anybody have any idea how to remove the yearly stickers on the plates? I've been told hot water but nothing happens. Rich Kahn _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as healeyray at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive From editorgary at aol.com Sat Dec 19 23:47:53 2009 From: editorgary at aol.com (editorgary at aol.com) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 01:47:53 EST Subject: [Healeys] Tires Message-ID: <66fe.2c92aece.385f2299@aol.com> In a message dated 12/19/09 11:33:12 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > > Thank you for the advise offered in selecting tyres for my BT7 > So, what did you buy and from where? Thanks Gary From kentmclean at comcast.net Sun Dec 20 06:44:17 2009 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 08:44:17 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] license plate stickers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B2E2A31.8050808@comcast.net> Richard Kahn wrote: > Anybody have any idea how to remove the yearly stickers on the plates? > I've been told hot water but nothing happens. I assume the sticker is some mylar/plastic sticker. One suggestion I haven't seen is WD-40. It has solvents that might work. You may have to peel a little, spray a little, let it work a little, peel a little, ... It should also clean up the left-over adhesive. -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 From jimf at frakes-eng.com Sun Dec 20 07:12:06 2009 From: jimf at frakes-eng.com (Frakes, Jim) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 09:12:06 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Kingpins In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes, we had to file the cotter pin quite a bit to get the pin all the way in on two different sets Jim -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Hutchings Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 9:31 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Kingpins Thanks for all the answers. It sounds like the consensus is that the threaded fulcrum piece should be tight and go in with a tap, the trick being to line up the flat for the cotter pin properly. It sounds like I may have to file the cotter pin so that it will go in far enough; has anybody else had to do this? Stephen, BJ8 Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as jimf at frakes-eng.com http://www.team.net/archive CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and it may contain information that is privileged or confidential. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient (or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us by telephone at the number listed above or by return e-mail. From jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com Sun Dec 20 08:42:17 2009 From: jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com (jerry wall) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 09:42:17 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Looking for Brake Pipe In-Reply-To: <52EFF87237624077AF704B6B23EDB445@universal1> References: <52EFF87237624077AF704B6B23EDB445@universal1> Message-ID: <9baa446a0912200742j703a25c2qd33ce3761be706fe@mail.gmail.com> i'm sure you can get a steel one from mr. finespanner, doug reid. cheers, On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Charley Braum wrote: > I need one of the pipes that connect the two front wheel cylinders. I > would really like to get one in copper, as those sold by Automec. I believe > their part number is 7F for that pipe. This is for a '54 100 but I think > all > the BN-1 sets are the same. > > If anyone has one, or a suitable alternative, offline is fine; regards > and > thanks, > > > CB > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- jerry wall BN6 rowlett, tx From bjsbj8 at gmail.com Sun Dec 20 12:30:32 2009 From: bjsbj8 at gmail.com (Bob Johnson) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:30:32 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] license plate stickers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Are you trying to get a whole stack of them off at once, or trying to remove them individually to get to a specific year? I had no trouble with a stack of them this year but just prying underneath a corner of the bottom sticker and they all pretty much just popped off because the stack was too stiff to bend. Bob Johnson BJ8 On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Richard Kahn wrote: > Anybody have any idea how to remove the yearly stickers on the plates? I've > been told hot water but nothing happens. > Rich Kahn > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as bjsbj8 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From steveg at abrazosdata.com Sun Dec 20 13:03:17 2009 From: steveg at abrazosdata.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Steve=20B.=20Gerow?=) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 12:03:17 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?license_plate_stickers?= Message-ID: <20091220200317.10353.qmail@hoster902.com> I've used both Bestine and lacquer thinner to remove stickers from California plates without any ill effects. What's worked best for me was to gradually slide a single-edge razor blade under the [usually a stack of] stickers, then use a rag and lacquer thinner to wipe off the adhesive residue. -- Steve Gerow BN6 From bj8Healey at msn.com Sun Dec 20 15:35:11 2009 From: bj8Healey at msn.com (James Sailer) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 15:35:11 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Subject: Re: license plate stickers Message-ID: ah ... hot air hair dryer .... works for yearly boat stickers as well ... Jim Sailer 66 BJ8 93 Boston Whaler From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Sun Dec 20 17:43:31 2009 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 16:43:31 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Yom stickers Message-ID: It was pointed out to me that the 1964 sticker was on the LEFT side and I noticed that the sticker at the bottom of that pile (which was covered by the month sticker) was a white sticker which might indicate a 64 registration. I had used a exacto to get the right side off destroying all the sticker in the process. I will try the heat gun next and if that doesn't work I'll try the Goof-off cause I have some. I'll try it on the back first. I also purchased a NOS 64 sticker on E-bay so if I do destroy what is there I can use that one. Thanks for all the great suggestions. I hadn't thought of the heat gun before. Rich Kahn _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ From noreply at ci.faniq.com Sun Dec 20 19:31:31 2009 From: noreply at ci.faniq.com (Joe M) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 19:31:31 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Healeys] Joe M (joemulqueen@yahoo.com) has sent you a private message Message-ID: <20091221023131.5DC6D187889@autox.team.net> From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Mon Dec 21 01:59:28 2009 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 19:59:28 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] license plate stickers In-Reply-To: <869201.24355.qm@web111415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <869201.24355.qm@web111415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6172E5472BAB43FAA46F341BAF1AB272@PatrickQuinnPC> G'day I have found that eucalyptus oil is perfect for removing glue and the like and it does not affect the underlying surface. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ray Juncal Sent: Sunday, 20 December 2009 1:41 PM To: Richard Kahn Cc: List Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] license plate stickers Rich I have not tried to remove license plate stickers specifically but I have found that "Besteen Rubber Cement Thinner" is solvent for most adhesives and will not attack paint or plastic. You can get it at your art supply store. I suggest soaking over time with careful probing of the glue joint with a thin blade (like a pallet knife, also from the art store) The stickers get crispy when old so be careful. Lacquer thinner would be my next choice but it might affect the paint. Try it on the back of the plate first. You got me thinking now. I am going to dig out an old plate if I can find one and see what works. There are several other options like "Goof Off" but they can attack some paint. Regards Ray Juncal --- On Sat, 12/19/09, Richard Kahn wrote: From: Richard Kahn Subject: [Healeys] license plate stickers To: healeys at autox.team.net Date: Saturday, December 19, 2009, 2:55 PM Anybody have any idea how to remove the yearly stickers on the plates? I've been told hot water but nothing happens. Rich Kahn From grumpyinloomis at ssctv.net Mon Dec 21 12:08:34 2009 From: grumpyinloomis at ssctv.net (Jerry Costanzo) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 11:08:34 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 100 6 on Craigs list Message-ID: <8D30930BE6D84D68A1271C0A0FF21D75@cardinalhealth.net> http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/1511242079.html This is based north of Sacramento. If anyone is interested, I live about 6 miles from the car and can go look at it for you. I don't like the color but maybe someone else does. Jerry BN4 BJ8 From rdavies1 at cox.net Mon Dec 21 13:39:12 2009 From: rdavies1 at cox.net (Ron Davies) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 12:39:12 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 100 6 on Craigs list In-Reply-To: <8D30930BE6D84D68A1271C0A0FF21D75@cardinalhealth.net> References: <8D30930BE6D84D68A1271C0A0FF21D75@cardinalhealth.net> Message-ID: "no rust"? I guess I have to revise my definition of rust very liberally. Think it is an original gold or is that out of a spray can? Nice original CA plates! Ron From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Mon Dec 21 15:29:58 2009 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Len and/or Marge Hartnett) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 14:29:58 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] "No, they don't make them like they used to. And that's a good thing:" Message-ID: <7F8AEB042AE847149A9164AAE5B97FBD@LeonardPCPC> Autoweek magazine, December 14, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/y86vrwj (The Other) Len Vacaville, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 From dwflagg at juno.com Mon Dec 21 16:02:22 2009 From: dwflagg at juno.com (dwflagg) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 18:02:22 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] "No, they don't make them like they used to. And that's a good thing:" Message-ID: <20091221.150321.905.59458@mailpop06.dca.untd.com> Try the same test with a '59 Buick or '59 Cadillac and see if the results are the same..... > Autoweek magazine, December 14, 2009: > > http://tinyurl.com/y86vrwj > > (The Other) Len > Vacaville, CA, USA > 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 > _______________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ Senior Assisted Living Put your loved ones in good hands with quality senior assisted living. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=TU3medxUn98xVhvJIv0JJAAAJ1B-9ttc3k1I_21D8YCzT29EAAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASUQAAAAA= From drmasucci at comcast.net Mon Dec 21 16:35:27 2009 From: drmasucci at comcast.net (David Masucci) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 18:35:27 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] "No, they don't make them like they used to. And that's a good thing:" References: <20091221.150321.905.59458@mailpop06.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <8763751C7A7F41FD99B08E9423ADC8FE@lab092908> While I completely believe that modern cars a significantly safer than their 50's-60's counterparts, something doesn't seem right. With an 80 MPH impact speed, I am amazed that the driver of the new Chevy would only sustain foot injuries. Are there any experts on the list that could comment. I was under the impression that at that impact speed, even in modern cars your chances of serious injury or death is very high. Dave BJ8 ----- Original Message ----- From: "dwflagg" To: Cc: Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] "No, they don't make them like they used to. And that's a good thing:" > Try the same test with a '59 Buick or '59 Cadillac and see if the results > are the same..... > >> Autoweek magazine, December 14, 2009: >> >> http://tinyurl.com/y86vrwj >> >> (The Other) Len >> Vacaville, CA, USA >> 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 From ynotink at msn.com Mon Dec 21 18:06:08 2009 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 01:06:08 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] "No, they don't make them like they used to. And that's a good thing:" In-Reply-To: <8763751C7A7F41FD99B08E9423ADC8FE@lab092908> References: <20091221.150321.905.59458@mailpop06.dca.untd.com>, <8763751C7A7F41FD99B08E9423ADC8FE@lab092908> Message-ID: An 80 MPH closing speed means both vehicles were traveling at 40 MPH. That's not all that fast. Colliding with another vehicle instead of an immovable object would lessen the impact due to the structural collapse of both vehicles. The newer car is stiffer and has structural elements that channel the forces away from the passenger compartment. It also had functional air bags that absorbed the force of the passenger's body to mitigate injury. The foot injury would likely be caused by collapse of the wheel well/footwell structure, which is a common weak point. The rider in the older car basically turns into a projectile and is at the mercy of the designers of the car. In the 50s hard surfaces and sharp objects were quite common in automobile interiors. Take a look at the steering column on your Healey. Now if that's not an incentive to drive it responsibly... Bill Lawrence > From: drmasucci at comcast.net > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 18:35:27 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Healeys] "No, they don't make them like they used to. And that's a good thing:" > > While I completely believe that modern cars a significantly safer than their > 50's-60's counterparts, something doesn't seem right. > > With an 80 MPH impact speed, I am amazed that the driver of the new Chevy > would only sustain foot injuries. Are there any experts on the list that > could comment. I was under the impression that at that impact speed, even in > modern cars your chances of serious injury or death is very high. > > Dave > BJ8 From e-wilkins at cox.net Mon Dec 21 18:14:59 2009 From: e-wilkins at cox.net (Eric (Rick) Wilkins) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 17:14:59 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] "No, they don't make them like they used to. And that's a good thing:" In-Reply-To: <8763751C7A7F41FD99B08E9423ADC8FE@lab092908> References: <20091221.150321.905.59458@mailpop06.dca.untd.com> <8763751C7A7F41FD99B08E9423ADC8FE@lab092908> Message-ID: <8FF42C7A-20B9-497F-AEBC-1F75F01F8D13@cox.net> Yes chances of death or serious injury are high. But way lower than an old clunker. Even a Cadillac or Buick. Huge mass can help, but also HURT you. There aren't crumple zones like newer cars have to aborb that impact. As the article and video points out, newer cars are safer. Get over it. Wilko On Dec 21, 2009, at 3:35 PM, David Masucci wrote: > While I completely believe that modern cars a significantly safer > than their 50's-60's counterparts, something doesn't seem right. > > With an 80 MPH impact speed, I am amazed that the driver of the new > Chevy would only sustain foot injuries. Are there any experts on the > list that could comment. I was under the impression that at that > impact speed, even in modern cars your chances of serious injury or > death is very high. > > Dave > BJ8 > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "dwflagg" > To: > Cc: > Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 6:02 PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] "No, they don't make them like they used to. > And that's a good thing:" > > >> Try the same test with a '59 Buick or '59 Cadillac and see if the >> results >> are the same..... >> >>> Autoweek magazine, December 14, 2009: >>> >>> http://tinyurl.com/y86vrwj >>> >>> (The Other) Len >>> Vacaville, CA, USA >>> 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as e-wilkins at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca Mon Dec 21 18:27:20 2009 From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (Mirek Sharp) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:27:20 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] "No, they don't make them like they used to. And that's a good thing:" References: <20091221.150321.905.59458@mailpop06.dca.untd.com> <8763751C7A7F41FD99B08E9423ADC8FE@lab092908> Message-ID: In 1997 my wife was involved in a head-on collision with an estimated combined impact speed of 140 kph (It was a highway with an 80 kph (50 mph) speed limit). She was driving a 1989 Saab 900 and the other driver was in a newer small Chevy (I can't recall the model). The Saab was amazing. The front end absorbed the energy in a text-book example of good engineering. The engine was pushed under the car, the windshield popped forward, the padded steering wheel moved up and the centre section absorbed the impact of my wife's face hitting it. The passenger compartment was compressed by about 4 inches, which jammed the door, bit it never popped open. The sunroof stayed in place and the passenger door opened normally. This was a pre-air bag car and the seat belt compression ruptured her spleen - that was nearly fatal but the ICU caught it and removed it in time preventing her from suffocation as her body cavity filled with blood and compressed the lung cavity. She was in intensive care for weeks, but now you would never know she was in an accident and rides her bike downtown shopping and power-walks with the girls three times a week. The fellow in the other car fared worse, but likely because he was elderly and had pre-existing medical conditions. He none-the-less survived. That incident absolutely convinced me of the extraordinary safety improvements that have been integrated into modern cars. You definitely can survive a high impact crash with modern technology, albeit with a lot of family anguish and pain. cheers, Mirek 60 BT7 ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Masucci" I was under the impression that at that impact speed, even in > modern cars your chances of serious injury or death is very high. From insptwo at msn.com Mon Dec 21 18:44:47 2009 From: insptwo at msn.com (insptwo at msn.com) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:44:47 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] "No, they don't make them like they used to. And that's a good thing:" In-Reply-To: References: <20091221.150321.905.59458@mailpop06.dca.untd.com>, , <8763751C7A7F41FD99B08E9423ADC8FE@lab092908>, Message-ID: I remember, back in the early 50's, people being impaled by the steering column when the wheel broke away. Bill BJ7 > From: ynotink at msn.com > To: drmasucci at comcast.net; healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 01:06:08 +0000 > Subject: Re: [Healeys] "No, they don't make them like they used to. And that's a good thing:" > > An 80 MPH closing speed means both vehicles were traveling at 40 MPH. That's > not all that fast. Colliding with another vehicle instead of an immovable > object would lessen the impact due to the structural collapse of both > vehicles. The newer car is stiffer and has structural elements that channel > the forces away from the passenger compartment. It also had functional air > bags that absorbed the force of the passenger's body to mitigate injury. The > foot injury would likely be caused by collapse of the wheel well/footwell > structure, which is a common weak point. The rider in the older car basically > turns into a projectile and is at the mercy of the designers of the car. In > the 50s hard surfaces and sharp objects were quite common in automobile > interiors. > Take a look at the steering column on your Healey. Now if that's not an > incentive to drive it responsibly... > Bill Lawrence From insptwo at msn.com Mon Dec 21 19:08:02 2009 From: insptwo at msn.com (insptwo at msn.com) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 21:08:02 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Joe M (joemulqueen@yahoo.com) has sent you a private message In-Reply-To: <20091221023131.5DC6D187889@autox.team.net> References: <20091221023131.5DC6D187889@autox.team.net> Message-ID: Ok! Just who is this, cause I imagine all of us got this message. I know that, sure as hell, I'm not about to open this! Bill BJ7 > From: noreply at ci.faniq.com > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 19:31:31 -0700 > Subject: [Healeys] Joe M (joemulqueen at yahoo.com) has sent you a private message From ah3000me at gmail.com Mon Dec 21 19:11:56 2009 From: ah3000me at gmail.com (Tom) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 21:11:56 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] "No, they don't make them like they used to. And that's a good thing:" In-Reply-To: References: <20091221.150321.905.59458@mailpop06.dca.untd.com> <8763751C7A7F41FD99B08E9423ADC8FE@lab092908> Message-ID: Yup, that steering wheel is a safety feature. One must engage the brain before engaging the clutch. What's scary is the feeling of invincibility many drivers get from all the "safety" features in modern cars. - Tom On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 8:06 PM, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE wrote: > An 80 MPH closing speed means both vehicles were traveling at 40 MPH. That's > not all that fast. Colliding with another vehicle instead of an immovable > object would lessen the impact due to the structural collapse of both > vehicles. The newer car is stiffer and has structural elements that channel > the forces away from the passenger compartment. It also had functional air > bags that absorbed the force of the passenger's body to mitigate injury. The > foot injury would likely be caused by collapse of the wheel well/footwell > structure, which is a common weak point. The rider in the older car basically > turns into a projectile and is at the mercy of the designers of the car. In > the 50s hard surfaces and sharp objects were quite common in automobile > interiors. > Take a look at the steering column on your Healey. Now if that's not an > incentive to drive it responsibly... > Bill Lawrence From shop at justbrits.com Mon Dec 21 20:30:28 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 21:30:28 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] ... Last message from Bob Duncan of Yahoo Bugeye List, etal. Message-ID: <4B303D54.7040908@justbrits.com> I have been in contact with Bob's wife Carol a couple times. Carol has approved and requested that I "offer-up" a LBC obit which may be seen & read on ILLINI Chapter's site for your review & possible donation(s). This note will be also be going out to a few other LBC site for their prayers & good wishes. http://www.illiniahca.org/BobDuncanObit.html I have also chatted with Kate, his daughter and she would like to convey a HUGE Thank You to the LBC World. Bob LOVED his Sprite and will be missed. Regards................ Ed From csooch1 at aol.com Mon Dec 21 20:32:51 2009 From: csooch1 at aol.com (Chris Masucci) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 21:32:51 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] "No, they don't make them like they used to. And that's a good thing:" In-Reply-To: <7F8AEB042AE847149A9164AAE5B97FBD@LeonardPCPC> References: <7F8AEB042AE847149A9164AAE5B97FBD@LeonardPCPC> Message-ID: <2625D3D81A1F4F7BB1F53F437DC516D1@ChrisPC> Just a little Physics since I am a big geek. This is one of my favorite sites http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/HFrame.html Since these speeds are not relativistic we can use the standard energy equation: E = 1/2 mv^2 (one-half m v squared) So, are two cars moving at 40MPH striking each other releasing more energy than one car hitting a brick wall at 80MPH? Lets assume the mass is 1500kg (3300lbs) for all cars and that each car, on impact, stops in about 0.5meters. For the two car crash where each is going 40MPH and they hit head on, both cars are subjected to an impact force, to stop in a half meter, of about (479,627 Newtons) 54 tons. For the one car crash where the one car is going 80MPH, that the one car is subjected to an impact force, to stop in a half meter, of about (1,918,510 Newtons) 216 tons. Yeah...drive slower this season. Cheers, Chris BJ8 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Len and/or Marge Hartnett Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 4:30 PM To: Healey Mail List Subject: [Healeys] "No, they don't make them like they used to. And that's a good thing:" Autoweek magazine, December 14, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/y86vrwj (The Other) Len Vacaville, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 From sjnnock at sbcglobal.net Mon Dec 21 20:40:36 2009 From: sjnnock at sbcglobal.net (Norman Nock) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 19:40:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] "No, they don't make them like they used to. And that's a good thing:" In-Reply-To: <7F8AEB042AE847149A9164AAE5B97FBD@LeonardPCPC> Message-ID: <344143.25409.qm@web83308.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Len ... When I had my shop in San Francisco in the 1960's we had a Austin Healey in the shop that had been in a crash , the steering column had been pushed into the driver andhis hands had bent the steering wheel well forward ... don't know what happened to the driver ... Norman Nock --- On Mon, 12/21/09, Len and/or Marge Hartnett wrote: From: Len and/or Marge Hartnett Subject: [Healeys] "No, they don't make them like they used to. And that's a good thing:" To: "Healey Mail List" Date: Monday, December 21, 2009, 2:29 PM Autoweek magazine, December 14, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/y86vrwj (The Other) Len Vacaville, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as sjnnock at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Mon Dec 21 20:41:10 2009 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Len and/or Marge Hartnett) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 19:41:10 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Joe M (joemulqueen@yahoo.com) has sent you a private message In-Reply-To: References: <20091221023131.5DC6D187889@autox.team.net> Message-ID: Bill: I Googled 'joemulqueen' and came up with a link to jowmulqueen at yahoo.com. According to the link, there was a communiction with someone who soundproofed the underside of his seatbox, tunnel and floorboards. Further research leads me to believe that he is a Land Rover owner. This preclude the fact that someone may not have perloined his name and address from someone's computer and bad things could happen is you open the e-mail. There does seem to be an automotive connection however. Again, according to Googlle, 'noreply" is a Mod that allows you to have all emails sent through SMF's send_mail function to be from a defined email address (usually noreply at domain.tld) to allow you to have emails handled when people reply (all based on server mail configuration). All mail not sent though SMF's send_mail function will not have this message suffixed on it. Do NOTask ME to explain that. I am highly computer challenged with the exception of being able to get to Google. ;-) (The Other) Len Vacaville, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "healey help" Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 6:08 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Joe M (joemulqueen at yahoo.com) has sent you a private message > Ok! Just who is this, cause I imagine all of us got this message. I know > that, sure as hell, I'm not about to open this! > Bill > BJ7 >> From: noreply at ci.faniq.com >> To: healeys at autox.team.net >> Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 19:31:31 -0700 >> Subject: [Healeys] Joe M (joemulqueen at yahoo.com) has sent you a private > message > _______________________________________________ From eschulz at frontiernet.net Mon Dec 21 21:22:25 2009 From: eschulz at frontiernet.net (Elton Schulz) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:22:25 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Rear hub seal Message-ID: Fellow listers, I recently received two hub seals for the rear wheels from Moss #535-085. They are not like the originals. They do not have the spring or the metal backing. Has anyone had any experience using these seals? Also, I've had a devil of a time removing the old seals. I've got one out but worked on it for about two hours trying to pry it out with a screw driver. I'm afraid I might have scored the sealing surfaces. Is there a secret to it that I'm not aware of? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Elton BJ7 in progress From RonFineEsq at earthlink.net Mon Dec 21 21:39:50 2009 From: RonFineEsq at earthlink.net (Ron Fine) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:39:50 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Joe M (joemulqueen@yahoo.com) has sent you a private message References: <20091221023131.5DC6D187889@autox.team.net> Message-ID: Joe is a friend of mine and I believe he is still a member of this list although I am not sure about that. He send me an email saying that the earlier email was not from him and to delete it. Ron Fine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Len and/or Marge Hartnett" To: "Healey Mail List" Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Joe M (joemulqueen at yahoo.com) has sent you a private message > Bill: I Googled 'joemulqueen' and came up with a link to > jowmulqueen at yahoo.com. According to the link, there was a communiction > with someone who soundproofed the underside of his seatbox, tunnel and > floorboards. Further research leads me to believe that he is a Land Rover > owner. > > This preclude the fact that someone may not have perloined his name and > address from someone's computer and bad things could happen is you open > the e-mail. There does seem to be an automotive connection however. > > Again, according to Googlle, 'noreply" is a Mod that allows you to have > all emails sent through SMF's send_mail function to be from a defined > email address (usually noreply at domain.tld) to allow you to have emails > handled when people reply (all based on server mail configuration). All > mail not sent though SMF's send_mail function will not have this message > suffixed on it. > > Do NOTask ME to explain that. I am highly computer challenged with the > exception of being able to get to Google. ;-) > > (The Other) Len > Vacaville, CA, USA > 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "healey help" > Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 6:08 PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Joe M (joemulqueen at yahoo.com) has sent you a > private message > > >> Ok! Just who is this, cause I imagine all of us got this message. I know >> that, sure as hell, I'm not about to open this! >> Bill >> BJ7 >>> From: noreply at ci.faniq.com >>> To: healeys at autox.team.net >>> Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 19:31:31 -0700 >>> Subject: [Healeys] Joe M (joemulqueen at yahoo.com) has sent you a private >> message >> _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as ronfineesq at earthlink.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From mayorrichard at hotmail.com Mon Dec 21 22:38:02 2009 From: mayorrichard at hotmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 05:38:02 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Rear hub seal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes Elton, There is a tool called a "seal remover". Modestly priced and well worth it. > From: eschulz at frontiernet.net > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:22:25 -0500 > Subject: [Healeys] Rear hub seal > > Fellow listers, > I recently received two hub seals for the rear wheels from Moss #535-085. They > are not like the originals. They do not have the spring or the metal backing. > Has anyone had any experience using these seals? > Also, I've had a devil of a time removing the old seals. I've got one out but > worked on it for about two hours trying to pry it out with a screw driver. I'm > afraid I might have scored the sealing surfaces. Is there a secret to it that > I'm not aware of? > Any help would be appreciated. > Thanks, > Elton > BJ7 in progress > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as mayorrichard at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/ From britishcars at shaw.ca Mon Dec 21 22:38:43 2009 From: britishcars at shaw.ca (PG) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 21:38:43 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Rear Axle Removal Message-ID: <0CA412B14DAF42E88095339FF2EE018A@PaulPC> RE: '67 BJ8 Ok..so I am of weak mind and strong back and a bit of a sucker for punishment. One of my projects this winter is to lower the car by about 1"...just don't like the way the rear of the Mark 3 BJ8 sits..too high. Also, I have a rear sway bar that's been taking space in my garage waiting for installation. While getting into this job, I started thinking thinking that I've done the transmission and engine so I might as well finish the drive train and do the axle.nothing particularly wrong with it..bit of play but nothing terrible. So, I have a couple of questions: 1. To get the axle out, I need to slide it over the frame and springs. While Haynes recommends this approach, I'm looking at the pumpkin and wondering if will actually fit (even with rotating it); 2. I assume it make sense to replace the bushing on the tie bars while I"ve got everything apart. However, am a little concerned that once I start I'm going to find the bolts/nuts frozen and get myself into a bit of a jam. Likewise for the bushings on the springs. 3. Is this something where you leave well enough alone? Thanks fro the help.all advice and comments appreciated as always. Paul From britishcars at shaw.ca Mon Dec 21 22:41:38 2009 From: britishcars at shaw.ca (PG) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 21:41:38 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Car Height needed Message-ID: <572CE5494B41496CB1486F868FD54457@PaulPC> I'm hoping that somebody can give me the height of an any 3000 big healey (except late model BJ8). I need the height from the ground to the top of the arch on the front and back wheel wells. Also, please give me tire size so I know that I'm comparing apples to apples. The purpose is to determine by how much I want to lower my late model BJ8, Thanks in advance. Paul From healey.nut at gmail.com Mon Dec 21 23:29:21 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:29:21 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Rear hub seal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Elton - No one sells those old seals anymore. The new ones are metal backed too, but the metal is under the rubber. The seals should be ok, the modern rubbers don't weaken with age like the older seals with the spring. If you have concerns take the seal to your local NAPA store and they'll be able to match the size... Alan On 12/22/09, Elton Schulz wrote: > Fellow listers, > I recently received two hub seals for the rear wheels from Moss #535-085. > They > are not like the originals. They do not have the spring or the metal > backing. > Has anyone had any experience using these seals? > Also, I've had a devil of a time removing the old seals. I've got one out > but > worked on it for about two hours trying to pry it out with a screw driver. > I'm > afraid I might have scored the sealing surfaces. Is there a secret to it > that > I'm not aware of? > Any help would be appreciated. > Thanks, > Elton > BJ7 in progress > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Sent from my mobile device Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Dec 22 01:47:09 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:47:09 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] "No, they don't make them like they used to. And that's a good thing:" In-Reply-To: <8763751C7A7F41FD99B08E9423ADC8FE@lab092908> References: <20091221.150321.905.59458@mailpop06.dca.untd.com> <8763751C7A7F41FD99B08E9423ADC8FE@lab092908> Message-ID: <4B30878D.4030909@chello.nl> The combined speed difference is not the same as the impact speed against a solid object, that is half that: 40mph in this case. The standard impact test these days is around 40mph depending on the country the test is done. These days it is an frontal offset impact test against a crush barrier. Before it was a 30mph full frontal impact test against a solid barrier which was more severe on acceleration (decelleration if you like) of the testdummies and cars. These modern tests are more severe on intrusion of parts in the passenger compartiment, which is clearly shown in the video. In the best performing cars you survive with no injuries at all, but all have to perform to the level that no serious injury occurs in this standardised test. If you hit a solid object at 80mph it will be certain death, unless you are extremely lucky. We have come a long way, but do not forget that cars are very specifically designed to meet these specific safety tests, but they could perform very very poor in accidents that do not follow the lines of these tests, e.g. at a slightly different angle or a smaller or bigger off set. Remember, the car industry wants to sell cars and is not realy interested in your safety. It will go as far as it legally has to. And as we all know, laws are not nearly sufficient. Kees Oudesluijs NL David Masucci schreef: > While I completely believe that modern cars a significantly safer than > their 50's-60's counterparts, something doesn't seem right. > > With an 80 MPH impact speed, I am amazed that the driver of the new > Chevy would only sustain foot injuries. Are there any experts on the > list that could comment. I was under the impression that at that > impact speed, even in modern cars your chances of serious injury or > death is very high. > > Dave > BJ8 > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "dwflagg" > To: > Cc: > Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 6:02 PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] "No, they don't make them like they used to. > And that's a good thing:" > > >> Try the same test with a '59 Buick or '59 Cadillac and see if the >> results >> are the same..... >> >>> Autoweek magazine, December 14, 2009: >>> >>> http://tinyurl.com/y86vrwj >>> >>> (The Other) Len >>> Vacaville, CA, USA >>> 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 9.0.717 / Virusdatabase: 270.14.116/2580 - datum van uitgifte: 12/21/09 20:13:00 From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 22 02:05:26 2009 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 04:05:26 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Rear Axle Removal References: <0CA412B14DAF42E88095339FF2EE018A@PaulPC> Message-ID: <000a01ca82e5$e750bbf0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Hey we're tough Healey guys. If we didn't like a challenge or two then we would all own Miatas. ; ) Soak the rear spring bolts and bushings well in advance with Kroil or PB blaster. Heat from a torch may be of some help too but of course be careful there. I used a saws all ( again, very carefully) to saw one bolt off. However if you can get a long sturdy punch and hammer on the end of the bolts you can drive them out with some persistence and the PB blaster soaking. Some people have burned the rubber bushes out but your still stuck with getting the bolts out and the burning rubber is definitely sickening so this probably is not a good idea. Definitely an easier job if the car is up on a lift. On the "Big Healey Restoration" project video that I have I noticed that they installed the rear axle without the gear unit and axles installed to make it lighter and easier to slide out the side. But they also used 3 guys. Its really not that heavy once you get the guts removed. Yes this is one of those jobs where you do a Victory Dance after wards cause it can be a real bear if the rust bug is present. Good Luck, Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "PG" To: "'healey'" Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 12:38 AM Subject: [Healeys] Rear Axle Removal > RE: '67 BJ8 > > > > Ok..so I am of weak mind and strong back and a bit of a sucker for > punishment. > > > > One of my projects this winter is to lower the car by about 1"...just > don't > like the way the rear of the Mark 3 BJ8 sits..too high. Also, I have a > rear > sway bar that's been taking space in my garage waiting for installation. > > > > While getting into this job, I started thinking thinking that I've done > the > transmission and engine so I might as well finish the drive train and do > the > axle.nothing particularly wrong with it..bit of play but nothing terrible. > > > > So, I have a couple of questions: > > > > 1. To get the axle out, I need to slide it over the frame and springs. > While Haynes recommends this approach, I'm looking at the pumpkin and > wondering if will actually fit (even with rotating it); > > > > 2. I assume it make sense to replace the bushing on the tie bars while > I"ve got everything apart. However, am a little concerned that once I > start > I'm going to find the bolts/nuts frozen and get myself into a bit of a > jam. > Likewise for the bushings on the springs. > > > > 3. Is this something where you leave well enough alone? > > > > Thanks fro the help.all advice and comments appreciated as always. > > > > Paul > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as lapierrem at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 22 02:07:46 2009 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 04:07:46 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Rear hub seal References: Message-ID: <000f01ca82e6$3a936e70$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Or a bearing service company if Napa can't help. ML ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Seigrist" To: "Elton Schulz" ; "Healey List" Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 1:29 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rear hub seal > Elton - > > No one sells those old seals anymore. The new ones are metal backed > too, but the metal is under the rubber. > > The seals should be ok, the modern rubbers don't weaken with age like > the older seals with the spring. If you have concerns take the seal > to your local NAPA store and they'll be able to match the size... > > Alan > > On 12/22/09, Elton Schulz wrote: >> Fellow listers, >> I recently received two hub seals for the rear wheels from Moss #535-085. >> They >> are not like the originals. They do not have the spring or the metal >> backing. >> Has anyone had any experience using these seals? >> Also, I've had a devil of a time removing the old seals. I've got one out >> but >> worked on it for about two hours trying to pry it out with a screw >> driver. >> I'm >> afraid I might have scored the sealing surfaces. Is there a secret to it >> that >> I'm not aware of? >> Any help would be appreciated. >> Thanks, >> Elton >> BJ7 in progress >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '59 Jag Mk IX > '64 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as lapierrem at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From austin.healey at gmail.com Tue Dec 22 02:51:25 2009 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 20:51:25 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Car Height needed In-Reply-To: <572CE5494B41496CB1486F868FD54457@PaulPC> References: <572CE5494B41496CB1486F868FD54457@PaulPC> Message-ID: <03014DA9-E5AD-4BAB-BA70-A554895AC1D2@gmail.com> Hi Paul, I know you said you didn't want Bj8 measurements, but I thought you might like to know what is possible on a road registered BJ8.... My phase 2 late BJ8 is 25 inches from the ground to the edge of the guard, on the front drivers side wheel, measured at the centre of the knockoff The drivers side rear is 25 1/4 inches, measured the same way. The 1/4" at the rear is to compensate for my mass in the drivers seat, part of the cornerweighting procedure. That's with the current road tyres fitted, 195 65 15. Chris www.myaustinhealey.com Sent from my iPhone On 22/12/2009, at 4:41 PM, "PG" wrote: > I'm hoping that somebody can give me the height of an any 3000 big > healey > (except late model BJ8). > > > > I need the height from the ground to the top of the arch on the > front and > back wheel wells. Also, please give me tire size so I know that I'm > comparing apples to apples. From msalter at precisionsportscar.com Tue Dec 22 04:25:54 2009 From: msalter at precisionsportscar.com (Michael Salter) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 06:25:54 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Rear Axle Removal In-Reply-To: <0CA412B14DAF42E88095339FF2EE018A@PaulPC> References: <0CA412B14DAF42E88095339FF2EE018A@PaulPC> Message-ID: <7fa0e5c60912220325t4c9ef15bt44f1a3e81e35fd20@mail.gmail.com> Well Paul this is actually a complex subject. One of the failings of the earlier Healeys, in the opinion of the press at the time, was that the ride was just too stiff for the American palate, or probably more correctly "backside". The modification in 1965 to install a dip in the frame and soften the rear springs to provide more travel was intended to address this. As a result of this you will find that lowering the rear without adding stiffer springs will result in the axle frequently hitting the bump stops which is a definite no no when improved handling s the goal but, if that is the route that you want to go then "you go boy". The Healey rear axle is a very robust unit, and will probably not be in need of any major work, but a major inspection and cleanup is an honorable task and should keep you entertained for a few days. As you will be disassembling it I woould strongly recommend removing the half shafts and pumpkin and even one brake back plate before attempting to remove the housing from the car. If you car has been in a "rust producing" environment at any time your will probably find that the bolts inside the rubber bushes of both the radius arms and spring eye bushes are seized into the metal sleeves in the bushes. These can be a bear to remove and I usually resort to cutting through the bolts and part of the sleeve with a "Sabresaw" or similar device of mass destruction in order to remove the axle. Good luck. BTW if you are considering installing an anti roll bar on the back I would suggest taht you read this article on my blog before you do. http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=71 Michael Salter On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 12:38 AM, PG wrote: > RE: '67 BJ8 > > > > Ok..so I am of weak mind and strong back and a bit of a sucker for > punishment. > > > > One of my projects this winter is to lower the car by about 1"...just don't > like the way the rear of the Mark 3 BJ8 sits..too high. Also, I have a > rear > sway bar that's been taking space in my garage waiting for installation. > > > > While getting into this job, I started thinking thinking that I've done the > transmission and engine so I might as well finish the drive train and do > the > axle.nothing particularly wrong with it..bit of play but nothing terrible. > > > > So, I have a couple of questions: > > > > 1. To get the axle out, I need to slide it over the frame and springs. > While Haynes recommends this approach, I'm looking at the pumpkin and > wondering if will actually fit (even with rotating it); > > > > 2. I assume it make sense to replace the bushing on the tie bars while > I"ve got everything apart. However, am a little concerned that once I > start > I'm going to find the bolts/nuts frozen and get myself into a bit of a jam. > Likewise for the bushings on the springs. > > > > 3. Is this something where you leave well enough alone? > > > > Thanks fro the help.all advice and comments appreciated as always. > > > > Paul From kentmclean at comcast.net Tue Dec 22 06:44:04 2009 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 08:44:04 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 100 6 on Craigs list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B30CD24.9020804@comcast.net> Jerry Costanzo wrote: > http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/1511242079.html Whoa! Flashback! My very first car, bought in 1968, was a 1959 100/6, painted gold with black coves. It looked just like that one. I paid $600 for it, and spent the summer of my 15th year bondoing, sanding, and painting it BRG. I also redid the interior with new black carpet and (Lord, forgive me) white Naugahyde seats. -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Dec 22 07:47:24 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:47:24 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] "No, they don't make them like they used to. And that's a good thing:" In-Reply-To: References: <20091221.150321.905.59458@mailpop06.dca.untd.com>, , , <8763751C7A7F41FD99B08E9423ADC8FE@lab092908>, , , Message-ID: There is a picture of a Healey, in a book ( I think ) that escapes me at the moment, that clearly shows the steering column and its angle towards the driver. I believe that it uses the word 'spear', but I could be wrong. It is sobering. Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen ) > From: insptwo at msn.com > > I remember, back in the early 50's, people being impaled by the steering > column when the wheel broke away. > > Bill > BJ7 > > > From: ynotink at msn.com ... > > Take a look at the steering column on your Healey. Now if that's not an > > incentive to drive it responsibly... > > Bill Lawrence From Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com Tue Dec 22 08:15:36 2009 From: Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 07:15:36 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] "No, they don't make them like they used to. And that's a good thing:" In-Reply-To: References: <20091221.150321.905.59458@mailpop06.dca.untd.com>,, , <8763751C7A7F41FD99B08E9423ADC8FE@lab092908>, , , Message-ID: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D0342012E@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> I sure wouldn't worry about it. I T-boned a large pickup in 1971 with a 100-6 at 60 MPH. It bent the pickup frame into a U. I broke my nose against the steering wheel. The wheel rim separated from the spokes. That was my only injury. My dad thought that was a pretty good car after that so we got another. A roll bar came with the car but we never got around to installing it. I rolled the replacement BJ8. Still no roll bar and no injuries. Ken Freese 65 BJ8 From bspidell at comcast.net Tue Dec 22 08:21:47 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 07:21:47 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] "No, they don't make them like they used to. And that's a good thing:" In-Reply-To: References: <20091221.150321.905.59458@mailpop06.dca.untd.com>, , , <8763751C7A7F41FD99B08E9423ADC8FE@lab092908>, , , Message-ID: <4B30E40B.3070706@comcast.net> I have no data--crash test or otherwise--but I suspect given the location of the steering box (what, about a foot off the ground?) and the height of contemporary bumpers the steering box and column would be pushed down more than back in a head-on or rear-end collision. Of course, that probably means the driver would do a serious face plant on the steering wheel. bs robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote: > There is a picture of a Healey, in a book ( I think ) that escapes me at the > moment, that clearly shows the steering column and its angle towards the > driver. I believe that it uses the word 'spear', but I could be wrong. It is > sobering. > > > > Robert Duquette > Ottawa ON Canada > 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) > 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) > 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen ) > > ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Dec 22 08:40:23 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 15:40:23 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] "No, they don't make them like they used to. And that's a good thing:" In-Reply-To: <4B30E40B.3070706@comcast.net> References: <20091221.150321.905.59458@mailpop06.dca.untd.com>, , , <8763751C7A7F41FD99B08E9423ADC8FE@lab092908>, , , , <4B30E40B.3070706@comcast.net> Message-ID: And, if the driver doesn't have a serious face? ;) Robert D > Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 07:21:47 -0800 > From: bspidell at comcast.net > > I have no data--crash test or otherwise--but I suspect given the > location of the steering box (what, about a foot off the ground?) and > the height of contemporary bumpers the steering box and column would be > pushed down more than back in a head-on or rear-end collision. > > Of course, that probably means the driver would do a serious face plant > on the steering wheel. > > > bs From autofarm at cyg.net Tue Dec 22 08:47:00 2009 From: autofarm at cyg.net (Bob Yule) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:47:00 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] "No, they don't make them like they used to. And that's a good thing:" References: <20091221.150321.905.59458@mailpop06.dca.untd.com>,, ,<8763751C7A7F41FD99B08E9423ADC8FE@lab092908>,, , <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D0342012E@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> Message-ID: <147758A603DC4AAC91649E291C9A225C@OFFICE> I seem to remember something about golden horseshoes................... Cheers.......Bob Check out our web site www.autofarm.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Freese, Ken" To: ; "Healeys" Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] "No, they don't make them like they used to. And that's a good thing:" >I sure wouldn't worry about it. I T-boned a large pickup in 1971 with a From grumpyinloomis at ssctv.net Tue Dec 22 09:04:09 2009 From: grumpyinloomis at ssctv.net (Jerry Costanzo) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 08:04:09 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Car Safety Message-ID: I have a delivery fleet that travels 57.6 million miles per year in 1300 vehicles. Our current fleet is Pontiac Vibes and Ford Ranger trucks. Both are "5 star" rated for safety. That 5 start rating is the best. We usually have a wreck every week, it is worse in winter. Very few injuries in modern cars. I really don't think our old cars have much to compare other than they have 4 wheels. Jerry What does a 5-Star Safety Rating mean? The New Car Assessment Program (NCAP) rates vehicles to determine crash worthiness and rollover safety. The safety ratings are gathered during controlled crash and rollover tests conducted at NHTSA's research facilities. Five stars indicate the highest safety rating and one star the lowest. While the safety feature ratings may differ among vehicles, all automobiles must first meet Federal standards. Get more information about NHTSA's 5-Star Safety Ratings - Click HERE. For all questions relating to NCAP crash testing, star ratings, and vehicle safety, please email crash.test at dot.gov From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Dec 22 09:32:09 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 16:32:09 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Car Safety In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >> Five stars indicate the highest safety rating and one star the lowest. I like this rating system!! Does this mean you can fail completely and you still get a "star"? :) Robert D > From: grumpyinloomis at ssctv.net > > I have a delivery fleet that travels 57.6 million miles per year in 1300 > vehicles. Our current fleet is Pontiac Vibes and Ford Ranger trucks. Both > are "5 star" rated for safety. That 5 start rating is the best. We usually > have a wreck every week, it is worse in winter. Very few injuries in modern > cars. I really don't think our old cars have much to compare other than they > have 4 wheels. > > Jerry > What does a 5-Star Safety Rating mean? > > The New Car Assessment Program (NCAP) rates vehicles to determine crash > worthiness and rollover safety. The safety ratings are gathered during > controlled crash and rollover tests conducted at NHTSA's research facilities. > > Five stars indicate the highest safety rating and one star the lowest. While > the safety feature ratings may differ among vehicles, all automobiles must > first meet Federal standards. Get more information about NHTSA's 5-Star Safety > Ratings - Click HERE. > For all questions relating to NCAP crash testing, star ratings, > and vehicle safety, please email crash.test at dot.gov From 63ahbj7 at comcast.net Tue Dec 22 10:25:33 2009 From: 63ahbj7 at comcast.net (63ahbj7) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:25:33 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] "No, they don't make them like they used to. And that's a good thing:" In-Reply-To: References: <20091221.150321.905.59458@mailpop06.dca.untd.com>, , , <8763751C7A7F41FD99B08E9423ADC8FE@lab092908>, , , , <4B30E40B.3070706@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4B31010D.3050500@comcast.net> << And, if the driver doesn't have a serious face? >> I didn't think ANY Healey Driver [Big or Small] was allowed to have anything but a HUGE grin on his/her face, R.D. ?!?!? From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Dec 22 13:19:11 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 21:19:11 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Car Safety In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B3129BF.6010306@chello.nl> Yes. Avoid new cars with less than 4 stars. Kees Oudesluijs robertduquette at sympatico.ca schreef: >>> Five stars indicate the highest safety rating and one star the lowest. >>> > > > I like this rating system!! Does this mean you can fail completely and you > still get a "star"? :) > > > Robert D > > >> From: grumpyinloomis at ssctv.net >> >> I have a delivery fleet that travels 57.6 million miles per year in 1300 >> vehicles. Our current fleet is Pontiac Vibes and Ford Ranger trucks. Both >> are "5 star" rated for safety. That 5 start rating is the best. We usually >> have a wreck every week, it is worse in winter. Very few injuries in modern >> cars. I really don't think our old cars have much to compare other than >> > they > >> have 4 wheels. >> >> Jerry >> What does a 5-Star Safety Rating mean? >> >> The New Car Assessment Program (NCAP) rates vehicles to determine crash >> worthiness and rollover safety. The safety ratings are gathered during >> controlled crash and rollover tests conducted at NHTSA's research >> > facilities. > >> Five stars indicate the highest safety rating and one star the lowest. >> > While > >> the safety feature ratings may differ among vehicles, all automobiles must >> first meet Federal standards. Get more information about NHTSA's 5-Star >> > Safety > >> Ratings - Click HERE. >> For all questions relating to NCAP crash testing, star ratings, >> and vehicle safety, please email crash.test at dot.gov >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 9.0.717 / Virusdatabase: 270.14.117/2581 - datum van uitgifte: 12/22/09 09:09:00 From msalter at precisionsportscar.com Tue Dec 22 16:04:03 2009 From: msalter at precisionsportscar.com (Michael Salter) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 18:04:03 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Test - Please Delete Message-ID: <137229b0912221504k53404ef3p8722cdefdd4d0ad@mail.gmail.com> Test - Please Delete From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Tue Dec 22 20:05:35 2009 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 03:05:35 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?safety?= Message-ID: <20091223030535.16742.qmail@server278.com> for you folks that were around at the time, i can remember the 57 ford's big advertising push was for safety. they had the deep dish steering wheel, double door locks, recessed knobs and guages, and other items i forget. i believe it was kind of a bust, and car companies quit pushing safety as much. it was only through government action that we got seat belts, padded dashes, etc. correct me if i am wrong, but people generally did not want to pay extra for safety options and it took a while to come around. hjim From ahbn6 at verizon.net Tue Dec 22 20:58:06 2009 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 22:58:06 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] safety In-Reply-To: <20091223030535.16742.qmail@server278.com> References: <20091223030535.16742.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: <005501ca8384$22aec040$680c40c0$@net> I owned a 57 Ford in college and I remember that steering wheel. It did come with a padded dash, padded visors and seat belts as standard equipment -- no extra charge. I bought the car from a close friend who bought it new so remember it when it came out of the showroom before I bought it 18 months later. Still like the design of that car and it would really move. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of healeymanjim at hansencc.net Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:06 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] safety for you folks that were around at the time, i can remember the 57 ford's big advertising push was for safety. they had the deep dish steering wheel, double door locks, recessed knobs and guages, and other items i forget. i believe it was kind of a bust, and car companies quit pushing safety as much. it was only through government action that we got seat belts, padded dashes, etc. correct me if i am wrong, but people generally did not want to pay extra for safety options and it took a while to come around. hjim Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as ahbn6 at verizon.net http://www.team.net/archive From eschulz at frontiernet.net Tue Dec 22 21:06:44 2009 From: eschulz at frontiernet.net (Elton Schulz) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 23:06:44 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Rear hub seals Message-ID: Thanks to Alan Seigrist, Richard Mayor, and Roland Wihelmy for responding to my problem. Got the old seal out with a new seal puller I bought and got the new seals driven in. Thanks again, Elton From grday at btinternet.com Wed Dec 23 06:31:13 2009 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 13:31:13 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] "No, they don't make them like they used to. And that's a good thing:" References: <20091221.150321.905.59458@mailpop06.dca.untd.com>, <8763751C7A7F41FD99B08E9423ADC8FE@lab092908> Message-ID: <9F051CDC924B4527A23696F4097681AF@user8634b3d69b> > An 80 MPH closing speed means both vehicles were travelling at 40 MPH. > Noooo, an 80mph closing speed means one vehicle was doing 80, the other 0. There again, it could mean one was doing 55 and the other 135 if they were both travelling in the same direction. It does not necessarily mean the closing speed should be equally divided between vehicles. As far as injuries go, it is the rate of deceleration or degree of vehicle intrusion into your flesh that matters. The slower the deceleration the better - but a slow deceleration accompanied by an intrusion of vehicle component into flesh ain't too good, usually it's more painful We should be talking about the manner in which vehicles are built - not forces generated during impacts - although there is good correlation as most people tend to puncture or split around the same limits. I would be interested in the source of crash testing done at 80mph for driver injury if any-one can help with a link. If Chevy are claiming just a foot injury in a closing speed 80mph impact let their CEO sit in the drivers' seat to prove it, otherwise I'll accept they are liars. Guy R Day >> >> While I completely believe that modern cars a significantly safer than >> their >> 50's-60's counterparts, something doesn't seem right. >> >> With an 80 MPH impact speed, I am amazed that the driver of the new Chevy >> would only sustain foot injuries. Are there any experts on the list that >> could comment. I was under the impression that at that impact speed, even >> in >> modern cars your chances of serious injury or death is very high. >> >> Dave >> BJ8 > _______________________________________________ From coudesluijs at chello.nl Wed Dec 23 07:15:07 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:15:07 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] "No, they don't make them like they used to. And that's a good thing:" In-Reply-To: <9F051CDC924B4527A23696F4097681AF@user8634b3d69b> References: <20091221.150321.905.59458@mailpop06.dca.untd.com>, <8763751C7A7F41FD99B08E9423ADC8FE@lab092908> <9F051CDC924B4527A23696F4097681AF@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: <4B3225EB.2090701@chello.nl> As it is likely that both cars are driven by the same loop on a crash test facility, both cars were travelling at 40mph in opposing directions. There are not to many crash test facilities around that can handle 80mph. Anyway it does not matter what speed both cars are travelling as long as the difference is 80mph in opposing directions. They way a car is built is not important, the forces generated during impact on the occupants (and pedestrians) are although one folows from the other. The G-levels correlated with injuries all started with Colonel John P. Stapp way back in 1947 in the Mojave dessert. Kees Oudesluijs NL Guy R Day schreef: >> An 80 MPH closing speed means both vehicles were travelling at 40 >> MPH. > Noooo, an 80mph closing speed means one vehicle was doing 80, the > other 0. There again, it could mean one was doing 55 and the other 135 > if they were both travelling in the same direction. It does not > necessarily mean the closing speed should be equally divided between > vehicles. > > As far as injuries go, it is the rate of deceleration or degree of > vehicle intrusion into your flesh that matters. The slower the > deceleration the better - but a slow deceleration accompanied by an > intrusion of vehicle component into flesh ain't too good, usually it's > more painful > We should be talking about the manner in which vehicles are built - > not forces generated during impacts - although there is good > correlation as most people tend to puncture or split around the same > limits. > > I would be interested in the source of crash testing done at 80mph for > driver injury if any-one can help with a link. > If Chevy are claiming just a foot injury in a closing speed 80mph > impact let their CEO sit in the drivers' seat to prove it, otherwise > I'll accept they are liars. > > Guy R Day > > > >>> >>> While I completely believe that modern cars a significantly safer >>> than their >>> 50's-60's counterparts, something doesn't seem right. >>> >>> With an 80 MPH impact speed, I am amazed that the driver of the new >>> Chevy >>> would only sustain foot injuries. Are there any experts on the list >>> that >>> could comment. I was under the impression that at that impact speed, >>> even in >>> modern cars your chances of serious injury or death is very high. >>> >>> Dave >>> BJ8 >> _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 9.0.722 / Virusdatabase: 270.14.117/2582 - datum van uitgifte: 12/22/09 19:22:00 From vette at uplink.net Wed Dec 23 10:21:21 2009 From: vette at uplink.net (Dave ) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 12:21:21 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BJ7 Hardtop Message-ID: <380-2200912323172121994@uplink.net> If anyone knows of a Hardtop to fit my 1963, Healey 3000, BJ7, please let me know. Thanks. Dave C. vette at uplink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You. From Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com Wed Dec 23 10:30:25 2009 From: Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 09:30:25 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Brake reservoir slosh Message-ID: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D03420139@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> I think there was a tech tip not too long ago on making a new gasket to prevent sloshing of the brake fluid out the cap breather hole. Does someone remember that? Thanks, Ken Freese 65 BJ8 From cnaarndt at gmail.com Wed Dec 23 11:04:40 2009 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 10:04:40 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] BJ7 Hardtop In-Reply-To: <380-2200912323172121994@uplink.net> References: <380-2200912323172121994@uplink.net> Message-ID: <751d05480912231004i2acbb9e6x7319f39585411629@mail.gmail.com> Dave, Try Nical Engineering in the UK. An original hardtop for BJ7/8 is very rare and can run $5K and up if you can even find one. http://www.nicalengineering.co.uk/ Cheers, Curt On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Dave wrote: > If anyone knows of a Hardtop to fit my 1963, Healey 3000, BJ7, please let > me know. Thanks. > > Dave C. > vette at uplink.net > EarthLink Revolves Around You. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as cnaarndt at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From dcongleton at embarqmail.com Wed Dec 23 11:33:29 2009 From: dcongleton at embarqmail.com (Dallas Congleton) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 13:33:29 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Brake reservoir slosh References: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D03420139@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> Message-ID: <380891892FE34C11971A7F3B6FAE7CAB@your4dacd0ea75> This was a post by Bob Haskell and a couple of comments a few months ago about using a gasket from the "Help" section of the auto parts stores- "The no splash 'gasket' that Moss sells (582-505) for the brake fluid reservoir is Dorman Help! part number 42072 for various GM models 2004-1987. Might be available at your local auto parts store. Bob" this link was also posted for info: http://www.mossmotors.com/graphics/products/PDF/582-505.pdf Our local Autozone had the gasket. It did require a slight trim around the edge to fit in the cap. Dallas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Freese, Ken" To: "Healeys" Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 12:30 PM Subject: [Healeys] Brake reservoir slosh >I think there was a tech tip not too long ago on making a new gasket to > prevent sloshing of the brake fluid out the cap breather hole. > Does someone remember that? > Thanks, > Ken Freese > 65 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as dcongleton at embarqmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.430 / Virus Database: 270.14.117/2583 - Release Date: 12/23/09 08:28:00 From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Wed Dec 23 11:33:52 2009 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Len and/or Marge Hartnett) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 10:33:52 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Brake reservoir slosh In-Reply-To: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D03420139@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> References: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D03420139@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> Message-ID: Ken: I think the thread you are referring to concerned a manufactured gasket. Here are some responses that were provided: "The no splash 'gasket' that Moss sells (582-505) for the brake fluid reservoir is Dorman Help! part number 42072 for various GM models 2004-1987. Might be available at your local auto parts store." "Also stocked at Pep Boys and Advance Auto Parts stores using the part number 42072. " I purchased mine locally at Kragan under the "Help" brand. (The Other) Len Vacaville, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Freese, Ken" To: "Healeys" Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 9:30 AM Subject: [Healeys] Brake reservoir slosh >I think there was a tech tip not too long ago on making a new gasket to > prevent sloshing of the brake fluid out the cap breather hole. > Does someone remember that? > Thanks, > Ken Freese > 65 BJ8 From Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com Wed Dec 23 11:38:20 2009 From: Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 10:38:20 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Brake reservoir slosh In-Reply-To: <380891892FE34C11971A7F3B6FAE7CAB@your4dacd0ea75> References: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D03420139@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> <380891892FE34C11971A7F3B6FAE7CAB@your4dacd0ea75> Message-ID: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D0342013E@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> Great. That's it. Thanks to all. Ken -----Original Message----- From: Dallas Congleton [mailto:dcongleton at embarqmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 10:33 AM To: Freese, Ken; Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brake reservoir slosh This was a post by Bob Haskell and a couple of comments a few months ago about using a gasket from the "Help" section of the auto parts stores- "The no splash 'gasket' that Moss sells (582-505) for the brake fluid reservoir is Dorman Help! part number 42072 for various GM models 2004-1987. Might be available at your local auto parts store. Bob" this link was also posted for info: http://www.mossmotors.com/graphics/products/PDF/582-505.pdf Our local Autozone had the gasket. It did require a slight trim around the edge to fit in the cap. Dallas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Freese, Ken" To: "Healeys" Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 12:30 PM Subject: [Healeys] Brake reservoir slosh >I think there was a tech tip not too long ago on making a new gasket to > prevent sloshing of the brake fluid out the cap breather hole. > Does someone remember that? > Thanks, > Ken Freese > 65 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as dcongleton at embarqmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.430 / Virus Database: 270.14.117/2583 - Release Date: 12/23/09 08:28:00 From rchaskell at earthlink.net Wed Dec 23 20:10:03 2009 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 22:10:03 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Donald Healey dash plaque Message-ID: <4B32DB8B.9000705@earthlink.net> Anyone familiar with this dash plaque? It is a 2-1/8" diameter Austin-Healey wood rimmed steering wheel. The horn button has the flash and the spokes are slotted. 100M or Le Mans wheel? Between the rim and the two upper spokes is: "SUPPLIED TO THE SPECIAL ORDER OF JOHN AND JEAN SMITH". Across the bottom spoke is "Donald Healey WARWICK ENGLAND. Bob From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Wed Dec 23 22:11:30 2009 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 05:11:30 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?wierd_electrical_problem?= Message-ID: <20091224051130.26478.qmail@server278.com> drove the bn6 in the dark for the first time in over a year and noticed that my signal lights were inop with the headlights on. investigated today and discovered that the brake lights do not work with lights on, either. i tracked all the wiring and everything is by the book. when the headlights and park lights are off, the left signal is slow, the pilot light on dash works, but the right signal comes on very weak at the same time. i can hear the signal flasher every click. with the right signal on, there is no left signal at the same time, but the pilot light only flashes once, the flasher unit makes one click, then stops, and the right signal flashes at a faster rate than the left one. the brake lights work fine when no headlights are on. i ran out of time to investigate further, but wondered if any electrical genius out there had any idea of where to start. new wiring harness, flasher relay unit on bulkhead and new lucas signal flasher during restoration. hjim From bcrist at club-internet.fr Wed Dec 23 23:43:07 2009 From: bcrist at club-internet.fr (Bernard Cristalli) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 07:43:07 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Blinkers Message-ID: <4B330D7B.7060903@club-internet.fr> Hello guys, I've been asked by a guy in Canada, what were the cars with mobile blinkers (on the B post) in the late 50s, ealy 60's around there? I know that, regarding european cars, the VW bug and Morris Minor could do, but what else, especially american cars? Happy holiday season Bernard From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Dec 23 23:43:58 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 14:43:58 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] wierd electrical problem In-Reply-To: <20091224051130.26478.qmail@server278.com> References: <20091224051130.26478.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: Jim - It's a good practice to go through all the connections, pull them off and reconnect them. Pay particular attention to the 5 way connector to the rear lights. Also unscrew and rescrew the connections on the flasher relay, fuse box and voltage regulator. Also Unscrew / rescrew all the connections on the back of all the light switches. Also undo the battery terminals clean, and reattach. Since the car has sat for so long without use of the lighting system, there's probably just some slight surface corrosion in one or two spots on the wires/connectors that is causing the problem. This is normal. This is one of the reasons why I make it standard practice to drive my car in all conditions all the time, it keeps them running properly. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 1:11 PM, wrote: > drove the bn6 in the dark for the first time in over a year and noticed > that my signal lights were inop with the headlights on. investigated today > and discovered that the brake lights do not work with lights on, either. i > tracked all the wiring and everything is by the book. when the headlights > and park lights are off, the left signal is slow, the pilot light on dash > works, but the right signal comes on very weak at the same time. i can hear > the signal flasher every click. with the right signal on, there is no left > signal at the same time, but the pilot light only flashes once, the flasher > unit makes one click, then stops, and the right signal flashes at a faster > rate than the left one. the brake lights work fine when no headlights are > on. i ran out of time to investigate further, but wondered if any > electrical genius out there had any idea of where to start. new wiring > harness, flasher relay unit on bulkhead and new lucas signal flasher during > restoration. hjim From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Dec 24 00:24:46 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 15:24:46 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Blinkers In-Reply-To: <4B330D7B.7060903@club-internet.fr> References: <4B330D7B.7060903@club-internet.fr> Message-ID: Bernard - Perhaps it is lost in translation, do you mean trafficators / semaphores like this one: http://www.watchet.dolphins.btinternet.co.uk/trafficatorspare.jpg ?? If so these were put on all British Cars until around 1955 or so... Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Bernard Cristalli wrote: > Hello guys, > I've been asked by a guy in Canada, what were the cars with mobile blinkers > (on the B post) in the late 50s, ealy 60's around there? > I know that, regarding european cars, the VW bug and Morris Minor could do, > but what else, especially american cars? > > Happy holiday season > > Bernard From coudesluijs at chello.nl Thu Dec 24 00:27:22 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 08:27:22 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] wierd electrical problem In-Reply-To: <20091224051130.26478.qmail@server278.com> References: <20091224051130.26478.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: <4B3317DA.9020008@chello.nl> Most probably dirty/corroded electrical connectors and/or earthing. This means cleaning all/most connectors and earthig points. Kees Oudesluijs NL healeymanjim at hansencc.net schreef: > drove the bn6 in the dark for the first time in over a year and noticed that my signal lights were inop with the headlights on. investigated today and discovered that the brake lights do not work with lights on, either. i tracked all the wiring and everything is by the book. when the headlights and park lights are off, the left signal is slow, the pilot light on dash works, but the right signal comes on very weak at the same time. i can hear the signal flasher every click. with the right signal on, there is no left signal at the same time, but the pilot light only flashes once, the flasher unit makes one click, then stops, and the right signal flashes at a faster rate than the left one. the brake lights work fine when no headlights are on. i ran out of time to investigate further, but wondered if any electrical genius out there had any idea of where to start. new wiring harness, flasher relay unit on bulkhead and new lucas signal flasher during restoration. hjim > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive From gregwilkinson at roadrunner.com Thu Dec 24 01:38:54 2009 From: gregwilkinson at roadrunner.com (Greg Wilkinson) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 00:38:54 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] wierd electrical problem In-Reply-To: <20091224051130.26478.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: Hi Jim, What condition is the battery in? If you have a stock generator, those things only put out 17 amps I think. If your generator was trying to charge the battery while running all the lights, it may have been loosing the fight. That might also explain the erratic turn signals too. Without enough juice, the element in the flasher can't heat up properly and move as designed. Happy Holidays, Greg -----Original Message----- drove the bn6 in the dark for the first time in over a year and noticed that my signal lights were inop with the headlights on. investigated today and discovered that the brake lights do not work with lights on, either. i tracked all the wiring and everything is by the book. when the headlights and park lights are off, the left signal is slow, the pilot light on dash works, but the right signal comes on very weak at the same time. i can hear the signal flasher every click. with the right signal on, there is no left signal at the same time, but the pilot light only flashes once, the flasher unit makes one click, then stops, and the right signal flashes at a faster rate than the left one. the brake lights work fine when no headlights are on. i ran out of time to investigate further, but wondered if any electrical genius out there had any idea of where to start. new wiring harness, flasher relay unit on bulkhead and new lucas signal flasher during restoration. hjim From bluehealey at googlemail.com Thu Dec 24 03:51:09 2009 From: bluehealey at googlemail.com (AlanB) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 10:51:09 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] wierd electrical problem In-Reply-To: <20091224051130.26478.qmail@server278.com> References: <20091224051130.26478.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: Hi Jim. These are typical symptoms arising from poor earth connections. The symptoms demonstrate that the flasher unit is good as are all the circuits. The key places to revisit are the black wire earthing tags to ground. Merry Christmas _____________________________________________ (______________ Alan Bromfield _______________) (______ \____1957-BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of healeymanjim at hansencc.net Sent: 24 December 2009 05:12 To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] wierd electrical problem drove the bn6 in the dark for the first time in over a year and noticed that my signal lights were inop with the headlights on. investigated today and discovered that the brake lights do not work with lights on, either. i tracked all the wiring and everything is by the book. when the headlights and park lights are off, the left signal is slow, the pilot light on dash works, but the right signal comes on very weak at the same time. i can hear the signal flasher every click. with the right signal on, there is no left signal at the same time, but the pilot light only flashes once, the flasher unit makes one click, then stops, and the right signal flashes at a faster rate than the left one. the brake lights work fine when no headlights are on. i ran out of time to investigate further, but wondered if any electrical genius out there had any idea of where to start. new wiring harness, flasher relay unit on bulkhead and new lucas signal flasher during restoration. hjim Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as bluehealey at googlemail.com http://www.team.net/archive From bighealey at charter.net Thu Dec 24 05:46:56 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 04:46:56 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Friday funny (early) - Engine sounds Message-ID: <5C98FBA8E7D1432DA6B72FD540E6CA50@TRACY> Thanks to DENNIS THE COASTER ORTENBURGER for the following Racer Bud http://funnyvideos.todaysbigthing.com/2009/12/22?utm_source=newsletter &utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily Warm Regards, Tracy Drummond PMP | ITIL Service Manager | CISSP | bighealey at charter.net | 408-394-3444 cell | 408-776-0133 home | http://www.linkedin.com/in/tracydrummond From sbyers at ec.rr.com Thu Dec 24 07:02:24 2009 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 09:02:24 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Donald Healey dash plaque In-Reply-To: <4B32DB8B.9000705@earthlink.net> References: <4B32DB8B.9000705@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <001601ca84a1$b862bc40$292834c0$@rr.com> Bob, see the attached letter from Geoff Healey about the dash plaque. Happy Healeydays! Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Haskell Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 10:10 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Donald Healey dash plaque Anyone familiar with this dash plaque? It is a 2-1/8" diameter Austin-Healey wood rimmed steering wheel. The horn button has the flash and the spokes are slotted. 100M or Le Mans wheel? Between the rim and the two upper spokes is: "SUPPLIED TO THE SPECIAL ORDER OF JOHN AND JEAN SMITH". Across the bottom spoke is "Donald Healey WARWICK ENGLAND. Bob Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as sbyers at ec.rr.com http://www.team.net/archive [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a name of G Healey ltr .pdf] From warthodson at aol.com Thu Dec 24 07:16:25 2009 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 09:16:25 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] wierd electrical problem In-Reply-To: <20091224051130.26478.qmail@server278.com> References: <20091224051130.26478.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: <8CC52BACF5244B8-3D30-2EBC8@webmail-m029.sysops.aol.com> If not the battery, ground, connections, etc. mentioned in earlier posts, I would suggest replacing the flasher unit to see if this is the source of your turn signal mysteries. Several people in our club have been having troubles with the quality of the flasher units recently. Also, confirm that you have the signal lights are wired correctly. I.E. The bright & dim elements have not been reversed. It is easy to get them reversed & if the running light is bright it will be difficult to see the brake light. Gary -----Original Message----- From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, Dec 23, 2009 9:11 pm Subject: [Healeys] wierd electrical problem drove the bn6 in the dark for the first time in over a year and noticed that my ignal lights were inop with the headlights on. investigated today and iscovered that the brake lights do not work with lights on, either. i tracked ll the wiring and everything is by the book. when the headlights and park ights are off, the left signal is slow, the pilot light on dash works, but the ight signal comes on very weak at the same time. i can hear the signal flasher very click. with the right signal on, there is no left signal at the same ime, but the pilot light only flashes once, the flasher unit makes one click, hen stops, and the right signal flashes at a faster rate than the left one. he brake lights work fine when no headlights are on. i ran out of time to nvestigate further, but wondered if any electrical genius out there had any dea of where to start. new wiring harness, flasher relay unit on bulkhead and ew lucas signal flasher during restoration. hjim Healeys at autox.team.net ttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as warthodson at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive From rchaskell at earthlink.net Thu Dec 24 07:40:59 2009 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 09:40:59 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Donald Healey dash plaque In-Reply-To: <001601ca84a1$b862bc40$292834c0$@rr.com> References: <4B32DB8B.9000705@earthlink.net> <001601ca84a1$b862bc40$292834c0$@rr.com> Message-ID: <4B337D7B.9020804@earthlink.net> Steve, Thanks for the letter. As an additional twist, this plaque was mounted to the glove box door from an MGB. Bob BJ8 Healeys wrote: > Bob, see the attached letter from Geoff Healey about the dash plaque. > > Happy Healeydays! > Steve Byers > HBJ8L/36666 > BJ8 Registry > Havelock, NC USA From sbyers at ec.rr.com Thu Dec 24 09:06:06 2009 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 11:06:06 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Donald Healey dash plaque In-Reply-To: <4B337D7B.9020804@earthlink.net> References: <4B32DB8B.9000705@earthlink.net> <001601ca84a1$b862bc40$292834c0$@rr.com> <4B337D7B.9020804@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <002201ca84b2$ffd51440$ff7f3cc0$@rr.com> Too bad the plaque has come adrift from the car it originally belonged to, Bob. As it was intended to be, I think the plaque is a very special thing to have on a Healey. I only have a record of two BJ8s and one BJ7 (as noted in the letter) with the plaque. Cheers! Steve -----Original Message----- From: Bob Haskell [mailto:rchaskell at earthlink.net] Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 9:41 AM To: BJ8 Healeys Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Donald Healey dash plaque Steve, Thanks for the letter. As an additional twist, this plaque was mounted to the glove box door from an MGB. Bob From jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com Thu Dec 24 09:34:33 2009 From: jwbn6hrdtp at gmail.com (jerry wall) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 10:34:33 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] SEASON'S GREETINGS Message-ID: <9baa446a0912240834v5d4fb48cw74637c5b8d41616a@mail.gmail.com> BEST WISHES FOR THE HOLIDAYS AND MAY ALL YOUR HEALEY DREAMS BE REALIZED IN 2010. Cheers, -- jerry wall BN6 rowlett, tx From insptwo at msn.com Thu Dec 24 09:35:40 2009 From: insptwo at msn.com (insptwo at msn.com) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 11:35:40 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Blinkers In-Reply-To: <4B330D7B.7060903@club-internet.fr> References: <4B330D7B.7060903@club-internet.fr> Message-ID: You could obtain the "attached on the side of the steering column turn signals" as an extra in the beginning of the 50's. Bill BJ7 > Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 07:43:07 +0100 > From: bcrist at club-internet.fr > To: healeys at autox.team.net; e-type at jag-lovers.org; xk at jag-lovers.org > Subject: [Healeys] Blinkers > > Hello guys, > I've been asked by a guy in Canada, what were the cars with mobile > blinkers (on the B post) in the late 50s, ealy 60's around there? > I know that, regarding european cars, the VW bug and Morris Minor could > do, but what else, especially american cars? > > Happy holiday season > > Bernard From bcrist at club-internet.fr Thu Dec 24 09:40:42 2009 From: bcrist at club-internet.fr (Bernard Cristalli) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 17:40:42 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Blinkers In-Reply-To: References: <4B330D7B.7060903@club-internet.fr> Message-ID: <4B33998A.3010908@club-internet.fr> Indeed yes. B Alan Seigrist a icrit : > Bernard - > > Perhaps it is lost in translation, do you mean trafficators / > semaphores like this one: > > http://www.watchet.dolphins.btinternet.co.uk/trafficatorspare.jpg > > ?? > > If so these were put on all British Cars until around 1955 or so... > > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '59 Jag Mk IX > '64 BJ8 > > > On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Bernard Cristalli > > wrote: > > Hello guys, > I've been asked by a guy in Canada, what were the cars with mobile > blinkers (on the B post) in the late 50s, ealy 60's around there? > I know that, regarding european cars, the VW bug and Morris Minor > could do, but what else, especially american cars? > > Happy holiday season > > Bernard From dwflagg at juno.com Thu Dec 24 09:40:05 2009 From: dwflagg at juno.com (dwflagg) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 11:40:05 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] SEASON'S GREETINGS Message-ID: <20091224.084016.22017.62270@mailpop11.dca.untd.com> Jerry, To you also and the rest of the list. May the Holiday season and the New Year bring us a renewed brighter outlook for the future. Doug > BEST WISHES FOR THE HOLIDAYS AND MAY ALL YOUR HEALEY DREAMS BE > REALIZED IN > 2010. > Cheers, > > -- > jerry wall BN6 > rowlett, tx ____________________________________________________________ Nutrition Improve your career health. Click now to study nutrition! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=Uq6EeVSwIBi8U2Ie1yLmugAAJ1B-9ttc3k1I_21D8YCzT29EAAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASQwAAAAA= From dwflagg at juno.com Thu Dec 24 09:41:29 2009 From: dwflagg at juno.com (dwflagg) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 11:41:29 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Donald Healey dash plaque Message-ID: <20091224.084214.7689.63073@mailpop09.dca.untd.com> Wouldn't it be a nice Holiday gift if it was, in fact, re united as it was intended to be. Doug > Too bad the plaque has come adrift from the car it originally > belonged to, > Bob. As it was intended to be, I think the plaque is a very special > thing > to have on a Healey. I only have a record of two BJ8s and one BJ7 > (as noted > in the letter) with the plaque. > > Cheers! > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Haskell [mailto:rchaskell at earthlink.net] > Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 9:41 AM > To: BJ8 Healeys > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Donald Healey dash plaque > > Steve, > > Thanks for the letter. As an additional twist, this plaque was > mounted > to the glove box door from an MGB. > > Bob > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as dwflagg at juno.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > ____________________________________________________________ Weight Loss Program Best Weight Loss Program - Click Here! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=IjWIVceYOh5OH4n4rCDuFgAAJ1B-9ttc3k1I_21D8YCzT29EAAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEUgAAAAA= From jobu53 at hotmail.com Thu Dec 24 10:45:48 2009 From: jobu53 at hotmail.com (Dan) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 10:45:48 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Happy Holidays Message-ID: I hope all the good members of this group and their families have a safe and very Happy Holiday Season !!!!!! Dan Serrao 1963 BJ7 Fountain Hills, AZ People who don't read the newspaper are uninformed, those who read the newspaper are misinformed........ Mark Twain _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ From comkanuk at cgocable.ca Thu Dec 24 11:03:25 2009 From: comkanuk at cgocable.ca (gilbert gauthier) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 13:03:25 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Happy Holidays In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes, Joyeux Noel ` vous tous and we wish for a nice healey under the tree for those who don't have allready one or 2 or 3 ...... Gilbert & Line http://www.austinhealeyquebec.com/ [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of inconnu.jpg] Le 09-12-24 ` 12:45, Dan a icrit : > I hope all the good members of this group and their families have a > safe and > very Happy Holiday Season !!!!!! > > Dan Serrao > 1963 BJ7 > Fountain Hills, AZ > > People who don't read the newspaper are uninformed, those who read the > newspaper are misinformed........ Mark Twain > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as comkanuk at cgocable.ca > > http://www.team.net/archive From richchrysler at quickclic.net Thu Dec 24 11:03:30 2009 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 13:03:30 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Happy Holidays & Merry Christmas References: Message-ID: Wishing all on this list a very safe and Merry Christmas and the best of the Holiday season. Hope Santa brings us all something special for our Healeys! Sitting here in Mount Hope, Ontario with lots of salt residue on the roads but no snow, all is bare, dry and cold with 25 degrees F. Rich Chrysler From Editorgary at aol.com Thu Dec 24 11:17:10 2009 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 13:17:10 EST Subject: [Healeys] Healey dash plaque Message-ID: In a message dated 12/24/09 8:35:46 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > Steve, > > Thanks for the letter. As an additional twist, this plaque was mounted > to the glove box door from an MGB. > > Bob > SInce it doesn't specifically say "This Austin-Healey supplied..." if this is a relatively early MGB, it could have been sold by Donald Healey at his BMC retail dealership in Warwick. Gary From rudedoggg at earthlink.net Thu Dec 24 12:14:13 2009 From: rudedoggg at earthlink.net (rudedoggg at earthlink.net) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 14:14:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Healeys] Happy Holidays & Merry Christmas Message-ID: <15501762.1261682053845.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Bare? Cold? dry? 25F? I wish I was in Ontario! Best wishes to all, John (from Omaha) -----Original Message----- >From: Rich C >Sent: Dec 24, 2009 1:03 PM >To: healeys at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Healeys] Happy Holidays & Merry Christmas > >Wishing all on this list a very safe and Merry Christmas and the best of the >Holiday season. Hope Santa brings us all something special for our Healeys! > >Sitting here in Mount Hope, Ontario with lots of salt residue on the roads >but no snow, all is bare, dry and cold with 25 degrees F. > >Rich Chrysler >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >Healeys at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > >You are subscribed as rudedoggg at earthlink.net > >http://www.team.net/archive From sbyers at ec.rr.com Thu Dec 24 12:45:13 2009 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 14:45:13 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Happy Holidays & Merry Christmas In-Reply-To: <15501762.1261682053845.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <15501762.1261682053845.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <004701ca84d1$9c3dd650$d4b982f0$@rr.com> Merry Christmas and Happy Healeydays to all my Healey friends, from balmy and sunny Havelock, NC - 48 deg. F (8.889 C, 282 K, 507.7 R, 7.111 Reaumur [?]). Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of rudedoggg at earthlink.net Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 2:14 PM To: Rich C; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Happy Holidays & Merry Christmas Bare? Cold? dry? 25F? I wish I was in Ontario! Best wishes to all, John (from Omaha) From pdzwig at summaventures.com Thu Dec 24 12:46:35 2009 From: pdzwig at summaventures.com (Peter Dzwig) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 19:46:35 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Happy Christmas Message-ID: <4B33C51B.3090903@summaventures.com> and a great 2010 to all listers. Peter Dzwig -- =========================================================== Dr Peter Dzwig From insptwo at msn.com Thu Dec 24 13:11:39 2009 From: insptwo at msn.com (insptwo at msn.com) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 15:11:39 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Happy Holidays & Merry Christmas In-Reply-To: <004701ca84d1$9c3dd650$d4b982f0$@rr.com> References: <15501762.1261682053845.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net>, <004701ca84d1$9c3dd650$d4b982f0$@rr.com> Message-ID: And a very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all you Healy guys from Florida where it is presently 75% (sorry to rub it in)! Bill BJ7 > From: sbyers at ec.rr.com > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 14:45:13 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Happy Holidays & Merry Christmas > > Merry Christmas and Happy Healeydays to all my Healey friends, from balmy > and sunny Havelock, NC - 48 deg. F (8.889 C, 282 K, 507.7 R, 7.111 Reaumur > [?]). > > Steve Byers > HBJ8L/36666 > BJ8 Registry From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Thu Dec 24 13:29:00 2009 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 12:29:00 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Happy Holidays & Merry Christmas In-Reply-To: References: <15501762.1261682053845.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net>, , <004701ca84d1$9c3dd650$d4b982f0$@rr.com>, Message-ID: Yes, happy holidays to all and may the next year find all the parts you need on SALE at Moss. Rich Kahn > From: insptwo at msn.com > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 15:11:39 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Happy Holidays & Merry Christmas > > And a very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all you Healy guys from > Florida where it is presently 75% (sorry to rub it in)! > > Bill > > BJ7 > > From: sbyers at ec.rr.com > > To: healeys at autox.team.net > > Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 14:45:13 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Happy Holidays & Merry Christmas > > > > Merry Christmas and Happy Healeydays to all my Healey friends, from balmy > > and sunny Havelock, NC - 48 deg. F (8.889 C, 282 K, 507.7 R, 7.111 Reaumur > > [?]). > > > > Steve Byers > > HBJ8L/36666 > > BJ8 Registry > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tahoehealey at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ From ahbn6 at verizon.net Thu Dec 24 13:44:27 2009 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 15:44:27 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Seasons Greetings Message-ID: <002f01ca84d9$e2a38f60$a7eaae20$@net> And from our family to yours, have a great holiday season and prosperous New Year. May all of our repairs, upgrades and maintenance go without a hitch this year with Murphy's law repealed. Rather wishful thinking but it is something to strive for. Drive them often. I know I will this year (finally). Thanks to the many contributors to my site! John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com From sbyers at ec.rr.com Thu Dec 24 13:54:25 2009 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 15:54:25 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Healey dash plaque In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <005b01ca84db$473b3fd0$d5b1bf70$@rr.com> Gary, my understanding has been that the special arrangement enjoyed by the Donald Healey Motor Company with BMC (that gave DMH exclusive rights to market the cars to U.S. forces in the UK) applied only to Austin-Healeys. Do you (or anyone else) know if that is so or not? While it's true that nowhere in Geoff's letter does it mention Austin-Healey or any other marque, a literal reading of the text suggests that he is talking about Austin-Healeys only -- especially the use of the words "factory" and "The Cape". But that is just how I've been reading it. "The plaque is one of those fitted to cars supplied by the factory at Warwick. This is not unique, but was our way of indicating that we had supplied the car and it added a personal touch to the car. We supplied lots of cars to members of the U.S. forces but relatively few were specially-prepared at The Cape and yours [HBJ7L/22219 - S. Byers] would have been one of the last." It would be interesting to know what "specially-prepared" entailed. Geoff was not exactly correct about the BJ7 being one of the last unless the plaque was really a rare item. One of the BJ8s that got this plaque was HBJ8L/38734 manufactured 25 - 28 October 1966. The strange thing about this car was that it was not dispatched from the factory to Compton, CA until 19 February 1968. Along with HBJ8U/42758G, it was the last car shipped from the factory to the USA. While it's interesting to speculate why the car hung around Abingdon between October 1966 and January 1968, the BMIHT record states "the build record indicates that this car was altered by the factory between the 1 - 25 January 1968." Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Editorgary at aol.com Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 1:17 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey dash plaque In a message dated 12/24/09 8:35:46 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: SInce it doesn't specifically say "This Austin-Healey supplied..." if this is a relatively early MGB, it could have been sold by Donald Healey at his BMC retail dealership in Warwick. Gary From rdavies1 at cox.net Thu Dec 24 14:33:35 2009 From: rdavies1 at cox.net (Ron Davies) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 13:33:35 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Happy Holidays & Merry Christmas In-Reply-To: <004701ca84d1$9c3dd650$d4b982f0$@rr.com> References: <15501762.1261682053845.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <004701ca84d1$9c3dd650$d4b982f0$@rr.com> Message-ID: Same back to you from CAVU 68 deg. Laguna Hills, CA! Ron Davies 67 BJ8 97 DB7 Merry Christmas and Happy Healeydays to all my Healey friends, from balmy and sunny Havelock, NC - 48 deg. F (8.889 C, 282 K, 507.7 R, 7.111 Reaumur [?]). Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry From Editorgary at aol.com Thu Dec 24 15:43:10 2009 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 17:43:10 EST Subject: [Healeys] Safety Measures Message-ID: In a message dated 12/23/09 10:46:35 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > for you folks that were around at the time, i can remember the 57 ford's > big advertising push was for safety. they had the deep dish steering > wheel, double door locks, recessed knobs and guages, and other items i forget. > i believe it was kind of a bust, and car companies quit pushing safety as > much. it was only through government action that we got seat belts, padded > dashes, etc. correct me if i am wrong, but people generally did not want > to pay extra for safety options and it took a while to come around. hjim > I interviewed (and was subsequently hired) for a position in Ford Product Planning in 1969. As late as that, one of the standard questions in the interview was, "If you were a product planner in 1956, planning the 1957 cars and had to decide whether to install seat belts or not, what questions would you want to get answers to?" The correct answer was: "How much will they cost per car, and are customers willing to pay that additional price to have seat belts, or give up something of equal cost to get them included." In other words, absent government controls, customers get exactly what they're willing to pay for. Turned out, in study after study at Ford, given a choice between seat belts, and say, a nice set of hub caps, customers would choose the cosmetic enhancement 2-1 every time. So, it isn't just the auto companies that had to be forced. The reason we have all this stuff on our cars, and the vehicle mortality rate is significantly decreased from past years, is that the government decided, for our own good, to make the companies build the safety, and efficiency, and longevity, and emissions controls into the cars. And, frankly, we're all better for it. The cars are better, they last longer, they get better mileage, and they are quantum amounts safer. And with that, a Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night. Gary From 57healey at gmail.com Thu Dec 24 16:05:08 2009 From: 57healey at gmail.com (Patton Dickson) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 17:05:08 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Merry Christmas Message-ID: <743b1e2f0912241505x1021d0a5l9b68381493500e63@mail.gmail.com> Wow, it's 28 degrees and snowing in Dallas. I hope everyone has a Merry Christmas. Patton -- Patton Dickson - http://Austin-Healeys.com - Plano, TX 1957 Austin-Healey 100-Six "Built to run 'til the road wears out." From richchrysler at quickclic.net Thu Dec 24 17:04:04 2009 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 19:04:04 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Happy Holidays & Merry Christmas References: <15501762.1261682053845.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net>, <004701ca84d1$9c3dd650$d4b982f0$@rr.com> Message-ID: > And a very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all you Healy guys from > Florida where it is presently 75% (sorry to rub it in)! > > Bill > > BJ7 Ummm, 75% what, Bill? And what's a Healy? Just teasing.... Rich From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Dec 24 17:21:18 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 08:21:18 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Happy Holidays & Merry Christmas In-Reply-To: References: <15501762.1261682053845.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <004701ca84d1$9c3dd650$d4b982f0$@rr.com> Message-ID: Merry Christmas to all from Shanghai (Visiting my mom!). No Healeys here but there are a few Geelys. I'll stick with the Healey! ;). 54 deg F here..... On 12/25/09, Rich C wrote: >> And a very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all you Healy guys from >> Florida where it is presently 75% (sorry to rub it in)! >> >> Bill >> >> BJ7 > > Ummm, 75% what, Bill? And what's a Healy? > > Just teasing.... > Rich > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Sent from my mobile device Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 From sales at justbrits.com Thu Dec 24 18:25:57 2009 From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ") Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 19:25:57 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] [pridgets] Santa In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B3414A5.9080207@justbrits.com> From the Spridgets List: On the way back from Monterey this morning I passed a couple dressed as Santa Claus and Ms Claus. They were driving a red Austin Healey 3000. Anybody ???? Ed PS: And to ALL, please have a VERY Merry Christmas !! From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Thu Dec 24 18:29:58 2009 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 01:29:58 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?update_on_wierd?= Message-ID: <20091225012958.5381.qmail@server278.com> spent about 3 hours today cleaning all the grounds, checking contilnuity and voltage to the signal light. nothing has changed. did discover that right signal was flashing when wire was disconnected. careful examination revealed it was the park light that was flashing on the right with left signal on. how can this be? will start to track it down tomorrow. tried replacing lucas flasher with the old buss flasher that came off the bj8, but that more screwed up. the pilot light was on all the time and no signal. checked it a couple of times for correct wiring, then put the lucas back on. will order a new flasher, but do not think that is it. anybody got any new leads, let me know. hjim From sales at justbrits.com Thu Dec 24 18:40:31 2009 From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ") Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 19:40:31 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] BJ7 Hardtop In-Reply-To: <751d05480912231004i2acbb9e6x7319f39585411629@mail.gmail.com> References: <380-2200912323172121994@uplink.net> <751d05480912231004i2acbb9e6x7319f39585411629@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B34180F.4070007@justbrits.com> << ...BJ7/8 is very rare and can run $5K and up if you can even find one. >> GOSPEL, Curt !!!!! Merry Christmas to all !!! Ed '63 BJ-7 (Hortense THE Healey wearing STD IL plates AH BJ 7 ) From greylinn at ozemail.com.au Thu Dec 24 19:01:04 2009 From: greylinn at ozemail.com.au (Peter Linn) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 12:01:04 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Merry Christmas In-Reply-To: <743b1e2f0912241505x1021d0a5l9b68381493500e63@mail.gmail.com> References: <743b1e2f0912241505x1021d0a5l9b68381493500e63@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: ....and from Oz, where it's midday Christmas day (in Brizzy at least) sunny and 28 deg C heading for 30! Cheers Peter Linn From bowering at sympatico.ca Thu Dec 24 19:10:41 2009 From: bowering at sympatico.ca (Ken & Sue Bowering) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 21:10:41 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] [pridgets] Santa In-Reply-To: <4B3414A5.9080207@justbrits.com> References: <4B3414A5.9080207@justbrits.com> Message-ID: Sorry to disappoint you but it wasn't the "Big Guy". While his sleigh may be red, it's still a sleigh and not an Austin Healey - as much as he might wish it were. And, and that time of the day (say around 11 AM PST), he wouldn't have been in Monterey but would have been somewhere in Australia - heading west and then north. Rumours here in Ottawa is that NORAD is already tracking him. -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Sales at " Just Brits " Sent: December-24-09 8:26 PM To: 4 - Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] [pridgets] Santa From the Spridgets List: On the way back from Monterey this morning I passed a couple dressed as Santa Claus and Ms Claus. They were driving a red Austin Healey 3000. Anybody ???? Ed PS: And to ALL, please have a VERY Merry Christmas !! Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as bowering at sympatico.ca http://www.team.net/archive From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 24 19:16:51 2009 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 18:16:51 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] license plate stickers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20091224181529.02060ee0@pop.att.yahoo.com> Boiling water. But if it is a newer plate that is coated with the same material as the sticker then it will soften the plate finish. Painted plate; no issue. Sorry for the late reply and am behind on my reading. John At 02:55 PM 12/19/2009 -0800, Richard Kahn wrote: >Anybody have any idea how to remove the yearly stickers on the plates? I've >been told hot water but nothing happens. >Rich Kahn From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 24 19:30:31 2009 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 18:30:31 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Looking for Brake Pipe In-Reply-To: <52EFF87237624077AF704B6B23EDB445@universal1> References: <52EFF87237624077AF704B6B23EDB445@universal1> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20091224182729.02054040@pop.att.yahoo.com> You don't want copper because it can work harden through vibration and crack. I have been told there is a European product that looks like copper and may be an alloy that is suitable but I don't recall what it is. Sorry I am behind on reading emails. John At 06:54 PM 12/19/2009 -0500, Charley Braum wrote: > I need one of the pipes that connect the two front wheel cylinders. I >would really like to get one in copper, as those sold by Automec. From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Thu Dec 24 19:32:47 2009 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 18:32:47 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] license plate stickers In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20091224181529.02060ee0@pop.att.yahoo.com> References: , <6.2.3.4.2.20091224181529.02060ee0@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thanks all, I got it off with the heat gun. In pieces, but no worries. Rich Kahn > Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 18:16:51 -0800 > To: tahoehealey at hotmail.com > From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] license plate stickers > CC: healeys at autox.team.net > > Boiling water. But if it is a newer plate that is coated with the > same material as the sticker then it will soften the plate finish. > Painted plate; no issue. > > Sorry for the late reply and am behind on my reading. > > John > > At 02:55 PM 12/19/2009 -0800, Richard Kahn wrote: > >Anybody have any idea how to remove the yearly stickers on the plates? I've > >been told hot water but nothing happens. > >Rich Kahn > _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/ From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Thu Dec 24 19:35:04 2009 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 18:35:04 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] How to Repair Your Foreign Car Message-ID: I got my Xmas present early. My Wife got me the O'Kane book at amazon for 28 bucks! They are out there, guys. Rich Kahn _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsofts powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Thu Dec 24 19:35:14 2009 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 02:35:14 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?merry_christmas?= Message-ID: <20091225023514.24267.qmail@server278.com> i really enjoy being home for christmas, even if it is just the old hammer and me. seems i spent most of my christmas holidays gone from home in the military or with united airlines. now i just kick back, eat and enjoy this great life that we have. hope everyone on the list enjoys their christmas with their loved ones. healeymanjim From cnaarndt at gmail.com Thu Dec 24 19:58:44 2009 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 18:58:44 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] merry christmas In-Reply-To: <20091225023514.24267.qmail@server278.com> References: <20091225023514.24267.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: <751d05480912241858u23e279bdy6c54bc76b885ae37@mail.gmail.com> Jim, Still an active pilot for AA and I'm off on a trip tomorrow at 5:30 AM to Honolulu. After 13 years active duty with the Marines, 8 years of corporate flying and now 11 years with the airlines it will be many years before I get to spend holidays with the family. I guess it could be worse and I'd have Detroit layover. Merry Christmas to everyone. Curt On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 6:35 PM, wrote: > i really enjoy being home for christmas, even if it is just the old hammer > and me. seems i spent most of my christmas holidays gone from home in the > military or with united airlines. now i just kick back, eat and enjoy this > great life that we have. hope everyone on the list enjoys their christmas > with their loved ones. healeymanjim > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as cnaarndt at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From ynotink at msn.com Thu Dec 24 19:58:46 2009 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 02:58:46 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] update on wierd In-Reply-To: <20091225012958.5381.qmail@server278.com> References: <20091225012958.5381.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: Jim, Sounds like the ground wire has an open. The power from the turn signal relay is going to the bright, high resistance, element in the bulb and from there to the base, which is normally connected to the ground. Instead the power back-feeds through the low resistance element and grounds through the side lamp circuit. There isn't enough flow to light the bright element, but the dim element will glow. The light will go out when the side circuit is turned on because there will be no voltage differential. Repair the ground wire. The problem could be anywhere on the ground wire or with the connection within the lamp boot itself. Good luck. Bill lawrence > From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 01:29:58 +0000 > Subject: [Healeys] update on wierd > > spent about 3 hours today cleaning all the grounds, checking contilnuity and voltage to the signal light. nothing has changed. did discover that right signal was flashing when wire was disconnected. careful examination revealed it was the park light that was flashing on the right with left signal on. how can this be? will start to track it down tomorrow. tried replacing lucas flasher with the old buss flasher that came off the bj8, but that more screwed up. the pilot light was on all the time and no signal. checked it a couple of times for correct wiring, then put the lucas back on. will order a new flasher, but do not think that is it. anybody got any new leads, let me know. hjim > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as ynotink at msn.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From healeyguy at aol.com Thu Dec 24 20:23:23 2009 From: healeyguy at aol.com (healeyguy at aol.com) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 22:23:23 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Greetings Message-ID: <8CC5328BF98237D-16F0-8155@webmail-d076.sysops.aol.com> Over here in the mid Pacific its "Mele Kalikimaka" that you hear this time of year. I send it out to all of you. All the best. Aloha Perry From Awgertoo at aol.com Thu Dec 24 21:11:03 2009 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 23:11:03 EST Subject: [Healeys] Happy Anniversary. Merry christmas/Happy Channukah, and more Message-ID: This year Mary and I (both) got a special present--after living in a rental house since we sold our last home almost three years ago and looking at lots of houses we didn't like we finally found one that we really like and closed on it on Tuesday. It meets both of our needs--about 3+ acres in a wooded semi-rural neighborhood which is what we wanted, plenty of room for our dog and Mary's garden and bees and there is room to build a free-standing garage that will comfortably accommodate 3 cars(our two Healeys and my Elva) plus my 20' car trailer and a two post lift. What else could a boy want! Today is our anniversary and we took dinner up and ate our first meal there--candlelight, roses and everything! We have agreed that at least for this and the coming year all gifts (birthdays, anniversary, Xmas/Channukah, etc. will be "house related". Mary is figuring out how to redo the kitchen and right now I am drawing up plans for the garage--the lift is of course something we both need since I look after all the cars, so that will be one of those gifts.... Best to all for a great holiday season--Michael Oritt From coudesluijs at chello.nl Fri Dec 25 00:45:55 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 08:45:55 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] update on wierd In-Reply-To: <20091225012958.5381.qmail@server278.com> References: <20091225012958.5381.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: <4B346DB3.1080407@chello.nl> This must be a ground issue probably of the base or ground wire of the rear lights. Kees Oudesluijs NL healeymanjim at hansencc.net schreef: > spent about 3 hours today cleaning all the grounds, checking contilnuity and voltage to the signal light. nothing has changed. did discover that right signal was flashing when wire was disconnected. careful examination revealed it was the park light that was flashing on the right with left signal on. how can this be? will start to track it down tomorrow. tried replacing lucas flasher with the old buss flasher that came off the bj8, but that more screwed up. the pilot light was on all the time and no signal. checked it a couple of times for correct wiring, then put the lucas back on. will order a new flasher, but do not think that is it. anybody got any new leads, let me know. hjim > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive From coudesluijs at chello.nl Fri Dec 25 01:00:06 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 09:00:06 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Happy Anniversary. Merry christmas/Happy Channukah, and more In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B347106.2090702@chello.nl> Michael, Build the garage at least twice as big as you planned to do and high enough to accomodate the lift comfortly. Provide for plenty of space for spare parts. Make provisions for future expansion. Make sure there is heating (and/or airco if you want it very luxurious), hot & cold water, dishwasher, fridge and oven (all 3 for maintainance jobs of course) and computer with printer. Do not forget to built a large garden shed filled with wonderfull SS garden tools first to prepare the Missus. Have a happy 2010. Kees Oudesluijs NL Awgertoo at aol.com schreef: > This year Mary and I (both) got a special present--after living in a rental > house since we sold our last home almost three years ago and looking at > lots of houses we didn't like we finally found one that we really like and > closed on it on Tuesday. > > It meets both of our needs--about 3+ acres in a wooded semi-rural > neighborhood which is what we wanted, plenty of room for our dog and Mary's garden > and bees and there is room to build a free-standing garage that will > comfortably accommodate 3 cars(our two Healeys and my Elva) plus my 20' car > trailer and a two post lift. What else could a boy want! Today is our > anniversary and we took dinner up and ate our first meal there--candlelight, roses > and everything! > > We have agreed that at least for this and the coming year all gifts > (birthdays, anniversary, Xmas/Channukah, etc. will be "house related". Mary is > figuring out how to redo the kitchen and right now I am drawing up plans for > the garage--the lift is of course something we both need since I look > after all the cars, so that will be one of those gifts.... > > Best to all for a great holiday season--Michael Oritt From healey.nut at gmail.com Fri Dec 25 01:39:49 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 16:39:49 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Happy Anniversary. Merry christmas/Happy Channukah, and more In-Reply-To: <4B347106.2090702@chello.nl> References: <4B347106.2090702@chello.nl> Message-ID: Kees - With all that hardware no toilet???? :\ Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Oudesluys wrote: > Michael, > Build the garage at least twice as big as you planned to do and high enough > to accomodate the lift comfortly. Provide for plenty of space for spare > parts. > Make provisions for future expansion. Make sure there is heating (and/or > airco if you want it very luxurious), hot & cold water, dishwasher, fridge > and oven (all 3 for maintainance jobs of course) and computer with printer. > Do not forget to built a large garden shed filled with wonderfull SS garden > tools first to prepare the Missus. > Have a happy 2010. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL > > Awgertoo at aol.com schreef: > > This year Mary and I (both) got a special present--after living in a >> rental house since we sold our last home almost three years ago and >> looking at lots of houses we didn't like we finally found one that we >> really like and closed on it on Tuesday. >> It meets both of our needs--about 3+ acres in a wooded semi-rural >> neighborhood which is what we wanted, plenty of room for our dog and Mary's >> garden and bees and there is room to build a free-standing garage that >> will comfortably accommodate 3 cars(our two Healeys and my Elva) plus my >> 20' car trailer and a two post lift. What else could a boy want! Today is >> our anniversary and we took dinner up and ate our first meal >> there--candlelight, roses and everything! >> We have agreed that at least for this and the coming year all gifts >> (birthdays, anniversary, Xmas/Channukah, etc. will be "house related". >> Mary is figuring out how to redo the kitchen and right now I am drawing up >> plans for the garage--the lift is of course something we both need since I >> look after all the cars, so that will be one of those gifts.... >> Best to all for a great holiday season--Michael Oritt >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From randerson33 at triad.rr.com Fri Dec 25 02:00:25 2009 From: randerson33 at triad.rr.com (randerson33 at triad.rr.com) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 9:00:25 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year Message-ID: <20091225090025.TYM1C.444313.root@cdptpa-web09-z01> To each of you, a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Jerry Anderson BN4 Longbridge NC From coudesluijs at chello.nl Fri Dec 25 02:36:48 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 10:36:48 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Happy Anniversary. Merry christmas/Happy Channukah, and more In-Reply-To: References: <4B347106.2090702@chello.nl> Message-ID: <4B3487B0.4090104@chello.nl> Alan, One uses the tree around the back. Slalnte, Kees Oudesluijs NL Alan Seigrist schreef: > Kees - > > With all that hardware no toilet???? :\ > > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '59 Jag Mk IX > '64 BJ8 > > > On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Oudesluys > wrote: > > Michael, > Build the garage at least twice as big as you planned to do and > high enough to accomodate the lift comfortly. Provide for plenty > of space for spare parts. > Make provisions for future expansion. Make sure there is heating > (and/or airco if you want it very luxurious), hot & cold water, > dishwasher, fridge and oven (all 3 for maintainance jobs of > course) and computer with printer. > Do not forget to built a large garden shed filled with wonderfull > SS garden tools first to prepare the Missus. > Have a happy 2010. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL > > Awgertoo at aol.com schreef: > > This year Mary and I (both) got a special present--after > living in a rental house since we sold our last home almost > three years ago and looking at lots of houses we didn't like > we finally found one that we really like and closed on it on > Tuesday. > It meets both of our needs--about 3+ acres in a wooded > semi-rural neighborhood which is what we wanted, plenty of > room for our dog and Mary's garden and bees and there is room > to build a free-standing garage that will comfortably > accommodate 3 cars(our two Healeys and my Elva) plus my 20' > car trailer and a two post lift. What else could a boy want! > Today is our anniversary and we took dinner up and ate our > first meal there--candlelight, roses and everything! > We have agreed that at least for this and the coming year all > gifts (birthdays, anniversary, Xmas/Channukah, etc. will be > "house related". Mary is figuring out how to redo the > kitchen and right now I am drawing up plans for the > garage--the lift is of course something we both need since I > look after all the cars, so that will be one of those gifts.... > Best to all for a great holiday season--Michael Oritt > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 9.0.722 / Virusdatabase: 270.14.119/2585 - datum van uitgifte: 12/24/09 09:11:00 From grday at btinternet.com Fri Dec 25 04:32:49 2009 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 11:32:49 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Looking for Brake Pipe References: <52EFF87237624077AF704B6B23EDB445@universal1> <6.2.3.4.2.20091224182729.02054040@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <27D264DDEBDB4081B68E0B761C396037@user8634b3d69b> Google Kunifer10 Sometimes misspelt as Cunifer 10 'Pure Copper' pipe does workharden and become susceptible to cracking over time and should not be in a brake line. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "john spaur" To: "Charley Braum" Cc: "Healey List" Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 2:30 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Looking for Brake Pipe > You don't want copper because it can work harden through vibration and > crack. I have been told there is a European product that looks like copper > and may be an alloy that is suitable but I don't recall what it is. > > Sorry I am behind on reading emails. > > John > > At 06:54 PM 12/19/2009 -0500, Charley Braum wrote: >> I need one of the pipes that connect the two front wheel cylinders. I >>would really like to get one in copper, as those sold by Automec. > _______________________________________________ From cnaarndt at gmail.com Fri Dec 25 05:17:51 2009 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 04:17:51 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Chritmas Friday Funny Message-ID: <751d05480912250417r4ad8028aka442526c3afd3a2e@mail.gmail.com> Hi Listers, As I leave for work on a chilly (it's 31 degrees F) SoCal Christmas morning, and wishing I did not have to be working today, I'll leave you all with this... Cheers, Curt * When you have an 'I Hate My Job day'* [Even if you're retired, you sometimes have those days] Try this out: Stop at your pharmacy and go to the thermometer section and purchase a rectal thermometer made by Johnson & Johnson. Be very sure you get this brand. When you get home, lock your doors,draw the curtains and disconnect the phone so you will not be disturbed. Change into very comfortable clothing and sit in your favorite chair. Open the package and remove the thermometer. Now, carefully place it on a table or a surface so that it will not become chipped or broken. Now the fun part begins. Take out the literature from the box and read it carefully. You will notice that in small print there is a statement: *"Every Rectal Thermometer made by Johnson & Johnson is personally tested and then sanitized."* Now, close your eyes and repeat out loud five times,' I am so glad I do not work in the thermometer quality control department at Johnson & Johnson.' HAVE A NICE DAY; AND REMEMBER, THERE IS ALWAYS SOMEONE ELSE WITH A JOB THAT IS MORE OF A PAIN IN THE ASS THAN YOURS! ....Remember, if you haven't got a smile on your face and laughter in your heart...Then you are just an old sour fart; Maybe you should go and work for Johnson and Johnson Enjoy life now - It has an expiration date! From Editorgary at aol.com Fri Dec 25 05:24:59 2009 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 07:24:59 EST Subject: [Healeys] Donald Healey's retail business Message-ID: In a message dated 12/24/09 5:48:51 PM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > > Gary, my understanding has been that the special arrangement enjoyed by > the > Donald Healey Motor Company with BMC (that gave DMH exclusive rights to > market the cars to U.S. forces in the UK) applied only to Austin-Healeys. > Do you (or anyone else) know if that is so or not? > No exhaustive research here, but five minutes with Donald Healey/Peter Garnier My World of Cars found this (p. 109): Part of the Austin deal was that we should have the sale conscession in the UK for Austin-Healey cars, that we alone should sell the first batch. As well as the small showroom-cum-drawing office we built at The Cape, we opened a showroom at the Austin servce Centre in West London. There was so much pressure from the big Austin distributors, however, that Austin finally persuaded us to allow the Austin-Healey to go out through their normal Austin outlets, in return for which they gave us an Austin franchise. My son Brian took over the retail side." (emphasis mine) The period he's referring to, of course, is 1952-1954. So from the very beginning of the Austin-Healey relationship, Donald Healey Motor Company had an Austin franchise, which would very soon have become a BMC franchise. I didn't search other books, but I know I can find a picture from later on, of the converted movie theatre in Warwick which DHMCo acquired as their retail showroom when they expanded beyond The Cape. I'm sure other people on this list can confirm that the Healey family had a BMC franchise. Gary From eyera3 at gmail.com Fri Dec 25 06:12:01 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 05:12:01 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Donald Healey's retail business In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <173126440912250512r3384e485i87712d57dc6ce487@mail.gmail.com> correct. On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 4:24 AM, wrote: > In a message dated 12/24/09 5:48:51 PM, healeys-request at autox.team.net > writes: > > > > > > Gary, my understanding has been that the special arrangement enjoyed by > > the > > Donald Healey Motor Company with BMC (that gave DMH exclusive rights to > > market the cars to U.S. forces in the UK) applied only to Austin-Healeys. > > Do you (or anyone else) know if that is so or not? > > > > No exhaustive research here, but five minutes with Donald Healey/Peter > Garnier My World of Cars found this (p. 109): > Part of the Austin deal was that we should have the sale conscession in the > UK for Austin-Healey cars, that we alone should sell the first batch. As > well as the small showroom-cum-drawing office we built at The Cape, we > opened > a showroom at the Austin servce Centre in West London. There was so much > pressure from the big Austin distributors, however, that Austin finally > persuaded us to allow the Austin-Healey to go out through their normal > Austin > outlets, in return for which they gave us an Austin franchise. My son Brian > took > over the retail side." (emphasis mine) > The period he's referring to, of course, is 1952-1954. So from the very > beginning of the Austin-Healey relationship, Donald Healey Motor Company > had an > Austin franchise, which would very soon have become a BMC franchise. > I didn't search other books, but I know I can find a picture from later on, > of the converted movie theatre in Warwick which DHMCo acquired as their > retail showroom when they expanded beyond The Cape. > I'm sure other people on this list can confirm that the Healey family had a > BMC franchise. > Gary > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- I Erbs Portland, OR From eyera3 at gmail.com Fri Dec 25 06:14:24 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 05:14:24 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] seasons of peace to all Message-ID: <173126440912250514j5c3e26cau980161798dfddab5@mail.gmail.com> As I sit in the Holy Land, in the city of Jerusalem, I wish all a year of peace, health and safe driving. This is such an amazing land. Shalom to you all. -- I Erbs Portland, OR From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 25 06:54:36 2009 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 08:54:36 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Looking for Brake Pipe References: <52EFF87237624077AF704B6B23EDB445@universal1> <6.2.3.4.2.20091224182729.02054040@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000a01ca8569$cbd49f50$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> If memory serves me the pipes the pipes made by Automec are nickle- copper. Not pure copper. Pliable but durable. I was very satisfied. But I think they are only in a kit form, sorry. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "john spaur" To: "Charley Braum" Cc: "Healey List" Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Looking for Brake Pipe > You don't want copper because it can work harden through vibration and > crack. I have been told there is a European product that looks like copper > and may be an alloy that is suitable but I don't recall what it is. > > Sorry I am behind on reading emails. > > John > > At 06:54 PM 12/19/2009 -0500, Charley Braum wrote: >> I need one of the pipes that connect the two front wheel cylinders. I >>would really like to get one in copper, as those sold by Automec. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as lapierrem at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From glemon at neb.rr.com Fri Dec 25 07:31:08 2009 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 08:31:08 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Happy Anniversary. Merry christmas/Happy Channukah, and more In-Reply-To: <4B3487B0.4090104@chello.nl> References: <4B347106.2090702@chello.nl> <4B3487B0.4090104@chello.nl> Message-ID: Merry Christmas to all, thanks for putting up with a former Healey owner who still lingers and occassionaly "contributes" with technical knowledge and experience that pales in comparison to many on the list. I don't talk about it here because it is not on topic, but am restoring a Triumph TR250 now, which does share a very few parts with a late 3000 (brakes and some ignition I think), and both the car and more importantly life in general are going well. I still find this list to be by far my favorite internet location for British car stuff, or anything else for that matter, I am vey impressed with the speed of response and level of technical knowledge here, and I enjpy the various personalities that come through in the posts as well. Regards, Greg Lemon From bspidell at comcast.net Fri Dec 25 09:39:22 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 16:39:22 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Looking for Brake Pipe In-Reply-To: <000a01ca8569$cbd49f50$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: <20065205.2822851261759162499.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I was able to get clutch and reservoir-to-mastercyl pipes, which don't come in the kits, directly from Automec (IIRC). http://www.automec.co.uk bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA If memory serves me the pipes the pipes made by Automec are nickle- copper. Not pure copper. Pliable but durable. I was very satisfied. But I think they are only in a kit form, sorry. Mark > You don't want copper because it can work harden through vibration and > crack. I have been told there is a European product that looks like copper > and may be an alloy that is suitable but I don't recall what it is. > > Sorry I am behind on reading emails. > > John > > At 06:54 PM 12/19/2009 -0500, Charley Braum wrote: >> I need one of the pipes that connect the two front wheel cylinders. I >>would really like to get one in copper, as those sold by Automec. From healeyrick at yahoo.com Fri Dec 25 12:05:33 2009 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 11:05:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Donald Healey's retail business In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <677776.62937.qm@web51401.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Pg 147 of "The Healey Story" by Geoff states, ".. and Warwick still held a BMC franchise to sell Austin and MG vehicles." It would be really cool for one of the clubs to reproduce these plaques as a fund raiser. Just a thought while hungrily awaiting the Christmas roast beast. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Fri, 12/25/09, Editorgary at aol.com wrote: From: Editorgary at aol.com Subject: Re: [Healeys] Donald Healey's retail business To: healeys at autox.team.net Date: Friday, December 25, 2009, 7:24 AM , Donald Healey Motor Company had an Austin franchise, which would very soon have become a BMC franchise. I didn't search other books, but I know I can find a picture from later on, of the converted movie theatre in Warwick which DHMCo acquired as their retail showroom when they expanded beyond The Cape. I'm sure other people on this list can confirm that the Healey family had a BMC franchise. Gary Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive From jstmorris at yahoo.com Fri Dec 25 12:06:09 2009 From: jstmorris at yahoo.com (J. Scott Morris) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 11:06:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Donald Healey's retail business Message-ID: <349296.98691.qm@web30301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In an advertisement by the Donald Healey Motor Co. Ltd. in Autosport, August 17, 1962, page 242, mention is made of the Speed Equipment Division at 64 Grosvenor Street, London.B So it was not just in the b52-b53 period but much later that the DHMCo had a presence beyond Warwick. B Mention is also made that: bA card to Warwick will place you on our mailing list for the monthly copy of Headlines from Healey.bB A scanned copy of the ad is attached.B --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada J. Scott Morris - Keep Smiling, B Murphy Lives --- On Fri, 12/25/09, Editorgary at aol.com wrote: From: Editorgary at aol.com Subject: Re: [Healeys] Donald Healey's retail business To: healeys at autox.team.net Received: Friday, December 25, 2009, 7:24 AM In a message dated 12/24/09 5:48:51 PM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes:B B > Gary, my understanding has been that the special arrangement enjoyed byB the Donald Healey Motor Company with BMC (that gave DMH exclusive rights to market the cars to U.S. forces in the UK) applied only to Austin-Healeys. Do you (or anyone else) know if that is so or not? > No exhaustive research here, but five minutes with Donald Healey/Peter Garnier My World of Cars found this (p. 109): Part of the Austin deal was that we should have the sale conscession in the UK for Austin-Healey cars, that we alone should sell the first batch. As well as the small showroom-cum-drawing office we built at The Cape, we opened a showroom at the Austin servce Centre in West London. There was so much pressure from the big Austin distributors, however, that Austin finally persuaded us to allow the Austin-Healey to go out through their normal Austin outlets, in return for which they gave us an Austin franchise. My son Brian took over the retail side." (emphasis mine) The period he's referring to, of course, is 1952-1954. So from the very beginning of the Austin-Healey relationship, Donald Healey Motor Company had an Austin franchise, which would very soon have become a BMC franchise. I didn't search other books, but I know I can find a picture from later on, of the converted movie theatre in Warwick which DHMCo acquired as their retail showroom when they expanded beyond The Cape. I'm sure other people on this list can confirm that the Healey family had a BMC franchise. Gary __________________________________________________________________ Make your browsing faster, safer, and easier with the new Internet ExplorerB. 8. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg which had a name of DHM] From bj7ah at acanac.net Fri Dec 25 13:56:18 2009 From: bj7ah at acanac.net (Heal;ey) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 15:56:18 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Power supplies-non Healey In-Reply-To: <20091213170000.9L8AT.171238.imail@eastrmwml46> References: <20091213170000.9L8AT.171238.imail@eastrmwml46> Message-ID: <64A4E52611A04C92986DAEDCC475A8E9@robsLTPC> MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL AND TO ALL A GOOD NIGHT. Raining here in southern Ontario, Canada. and about 1 deg C Bob & Jean Slater 1963 BJ7 From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Fri Dec 25 16:35:07 2009 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 23:35:07 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?more_wierd?= Message-ID: <20091225233507.16674.qmail@server278.com> success comes to those who perservere. knew i had big trouble this morning when i saw the license plate light blinking in unison with the taillights and the signal lights. disconnected all wires and scraped all grounds again. swapped bulbs when i noticed an unusual bulb in right rear taillight. finally got the license and taillight to stop blinking with signal, but then had no signal lights or brake lights. played around with grounds, connections and bulbs on the front. still no joy, so decided to check continuity of trafficator. all wires were good and had good continuity both directions. put whole thing together and wired it back up and noticed that i was getting signal lights. checked to see if they would work with headlights on. SUCCESS. still do not know exactly what i did to cure the problem, but now have all lights working. thanks for the help. hjim From insptwo at msn.com Fri Dec 25 18:29:39 2009 From: insptwo at msn.com (insptwo at msn.com) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 20:29:39 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Happy Holidays & Merry Christmas In-Reply-To: References: <15501762.1261682053845.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net>, <004701ca84d1$9c3dd650$d4b982f0$@rr.com> , Message-ID: Wellllllllll, Rich, been having a lost day when I wrote that. You would think that being the classified ads mgr for the "Marque" I should how to spell "Healey". Oh well, old age is creeping up on my mind! On the bright side, one of my presents from my loving wife (who is a tool fanatic and receives all the "specialized" tol cataloguescause they are addressed to her) gave me a complete drill bit index with all cobalt bits. Now if I can just find where I put my all my drills! We are now preparing to leave for Atlanta, where the weather is a tad colder to see how our youngest is progressing with the restoration of 2nd '67 Shelby GT 500 Mustang Cobra. Bill BJ7 > From: richchrysler at quickclic.net > To: insptwo at msn.com; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Happy Holidays & Merry Christmas > Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 19:04:04 -0500 > > > > > > And a very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all you Healy guys from > > Florida where it is presently 75% (sorry to rub it in)! > > > > Bill > > > > BJ7 > > Ummm, 75% what, Bill? And what's a Healy? > > Just teasing.... > Rich From dwflagg at juno.com Fri Dec 25 18:33:20 2009 From: dwflagg at juno.com (dwflagg) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 20:33:20 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Switch knobs Message-ID: <20091225.173324.8544.64190@mailpop08.dca.untd.com> Is there anyone out there who restores lettered switch knobs? TIA. Doug ____________________________________________________________ Diet Help Cheap Diet Help Tips. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=hIDWFvvbo5naGsz4sQ_xTgAAJ1B-9ttc3k1I_21D8YCzT29EAAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYQAAAAAA= From healeyray at yahoo.com Fri Dec 25 19:31:24 2009 From: healeyray at yahoo.com (Ray Juncal) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 18:31:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Greetings Message-ID: <108215.58745.qm@web111408.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> This list is a gift all year long. Hope you all have a wonderful Holiday of your choice and a Happy and Healey filled New Year. God Bless Majordomo. Ray Juncal From bspidell at comcast.net Fri Dec 25 20:13:22 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 03:13:22 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Switch knobs In-Reply-To: <20091225.173324.8544.64190@mailpop08.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <897847422.2897661261797202406.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> We've been doing our own. Clean the lettering out carefully with a not-too-sharp instrument--e.g. a dull pick--then apply white (or red, etc.) enamel paint into the letters with a fine brush. Let the paint soak in for a few seconds, then wipe the excess off the knob with a 'sharp' plastic body filler scraper. When the paint's mostly dry clean up any smearing with a thin cotton cloth with a little thinner (don't use something like a microfiber or terrycloth towel--the fibers will dig into the paint in the letters and remove it). You can dye and buff the knob beforehand if you want a shiny, polished look; we prefer the patina of a lightly buffed (only) knob. Paint, brushes, etc. are available at any hobby shop. I know this doesn't answer your question but this is something you can do yourself and get good results, and it's not difficult. Takes about 5 minutes per knob, if you don't dye. bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA Is there anyone out there who restores lettered switch knobs? TIA. Doug From stmiller96 at hotmail.com Fri Dec 25 20:32:53 2009 From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 22:32:53 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] autotraderclassics.com Message-ID: Anyone view the 100-6 58' for $16,000 on autotraderclassics.com? Look where the lift pads are mounted in the underneath photo. WOW! Think it might now have an exhaust issue? The Millers "British Car Nuts" 1957 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 35299 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 BN4 77219 1964 MGB 40841 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite AN5 34351 "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive." _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsofts powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ From sales at justbrits.com Fri Dec 25 20:55:04 2009 From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ") Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 21:55:04 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Greetings In-Reply-To: <108215.58745.qm@web111408.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <108215.58745.qm@web111408.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4B358918.5040305@justbrits.com> NOT picking on the author: Majordomo but THAT is one of those words that the Authors of the FREE program Mark [MJB] has switched to HATES because it refers to a different software package. The same applies to "listsrv". Both of which ARE Trademarked. Just FYI & FWIW [I am on the 'users tech mail group List' for MailMan which IS what Mark has changed too and see it all the time ]. I sincerely hope you all had a wonderful & Merry Christmas !! Ed From 63ahbj7 at comcast.net Fri Dec 25 21:26:37 2009 From: 63ahbj7 at comcast.net (63ahbj7) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 22:26:37 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] autotraderclassics.com In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B35907D.405@comcast.net> << Anyone view the 100-6 58' for $16,000 on autotraderclassics.com? Look where the lift pads are mounted in the underneath photo. WOW! Think it might now have an exhaust issue? >> http://www.autotraderclassics.com/find/vehicle/vehicleDetail.xhtml?adId=206681&actionMethod=find%2Fvehicle%2FvehicleSearchResults.xhtml%3AuShipController.init&conversationId=208451 Nah, Shawn !!!! LOL!!!! From Awgertoo at aol.com Fri Dec 25 22:00:52 2009 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 00:00:52 EST Subject: [Healeys] Garage Design Message-ID: I am doing preliminary design of a garage and have a question for the smart guys here: The building will be of frame construction and will be 25' wide. I would like to put a loft with a plywood deck over a portion of the main floor--the dimensions of the loft being 25' square. The loft would be used for light storage with weight being exclusively on the sides and no appreciable weight in the center. I could tolerate some floor bounce if need be. Here's the question: What size floor joists or fabricated wood trusses would I need to adequately support the loft without any columns to the concrete floor below--in other words using a free span--and on what centers would they need to be? I have read from one site that 16" floor trusses on 24" centers will span 27-1/2'. Any input appreciated. From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Fri Dec 25 23:19:11 2009 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 17:19:11 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Donald Healey's retail business In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1274ADCC42AB499C8B719D236DE50822@PatrickQuinnPC> G'day Gary My best wishes for a safe and joyous festive season to everyone. Back in 1975 Alan Jones and I visited the Donald Healey Motor Company that was then located in the converted cinema in Warwick and my memory tells me that it was a BMC agency. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Editorgary at aol.com Sent: Friday, 25 December 2009 11:25 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Donald Healey's retail business In a message dated 12/24/09 5:48:51 PM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > > Gary, my understanding has been that the special arrangement enjoyed by > the > Donald Healey Motor Company with BMC (that gave DMH exclusive rights to > market the cars to U.S. forces in the UK) applied only to Austin-Healeys. > Do you (or anyone else) know if that is so or not? > No exhaustive research here, but five minutes with Donald Healey/Peter Garnier My World of Cars found this (p. 109): Part of the Austin deal was that we should have the sale conscession in the UK for Austin-Healey cars, that we alone should sell the first batch. As well as the small showroom-cum-drawing office we built at The Cape, we opened a showroom at the Austin servce Centre in West London. There was so much pressure from the big Austin distributors, however, that Austin finally persuaded us to allow the Austin-Healey to go out through their normal Austin outlets, in return for which they gave us an Austin franchise. My son Brian took over the retail side." (emphasis mine) The period he's referring to, of course, is 1952-1954. So from the very beginning of the Austin-Healey relationship, Donald Healey Motor Company had an Austin franchise, which would very soon have become a BMC franchise. I didn't search other books, but I know I can find a picture from later on, of the converted movie theatre in Warwick which DHMCo acquired as their retail showroom when they expanded beyond The Cape. I'm sure other people on this list can confirm that the Healey family had a BMC franchise. Gary From britishcars at shaw.ca Fri Dec 25 23:43:19 2009 From: britishcars at shaw.ca (PG) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 22:43:19 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Intermeccanica Italia Message-ID: Somebody on the list mentioned that he had a neighbor who had a black on red Intermeccanica Italia roadster. For the life of me, I can't find that email and would like to make contact..can you perhaps resend me your contact information "off-list". Thanks Paul From healeyray at yahoo.com Sat Dec 26 01:04:57 2009 From: healeyray at yahoo.com (Ray Juncal) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 00:04:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Greetings In-Reply-To: <4B358918.5040305@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <728855.80556.qm@web111405.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> In my small non-tech mind I meant Mark, who has been our "majordomo" as opposed to the program of that same name. I hope I haven't offended anyone. Ray Juncal --- On Fri, 12/25/09, Sales at " Just Brits " wrote: From: Sales at " Just Brits " Subject: Re: [Healeys] Greetings To: "List Healey" Date: Friday, December 25, 2009, 7:55 PM NOT picking on the author: Majordomo but THAT is one of those words that the Authors of the FREE program Mark [MJB] has switched to HATES because it refers to a different software package. The same applies to "listsrv". Both of which ARE Trademarked. From simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk Sat Dec 26 02:41:33 2009 From: simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk (Simon Lachlan) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 09:41:33 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Donald Healey's retail business In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000001ca860f$9c901480$d5b03d80$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> I went to the old cinema show room in Warwick years ago. Actually +/- 38 yrs ago. It was still open, but barely functioning. No cars and I think it was in the final throes of clearing out and closing up. I had my first BT7 MkII then and went upstairs to the Parts dept on spec. It was virtually cleared out. I asked them what they had left for my car and they had a Parts book, a red armrest with white piping and one of the heater controls, the slider knob I think. I bought these or they gave them to me. Simon -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Editorgary at aol.com Sent: 25 December 2009 12:25 To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Donald Healey's retail business In a message dated 12/24/09 5:48:51 PM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > > Gary, my understanding has been that the special arrangement enjoyed by > the > Donald Healey Motor Company with BMC (that gave DMH exclusive rights to > market the cars to U.S. forces in the UK) applied only to Austin-Healeys. > Do you (or anyone else) know if that is so or not? > No exhaustive research here, but five minutes with Donald Healey/Peter Garnier My World of Cars found this (p. 109): Part of the Austin deal was that we should have the sale conscession in the UK for Austin-Healey cars, that we alone should sell the first batch. As well as the small showroom-cum-drawing office we built at The Cape, we opened a showroom at the Austin servce Centre in West London. There was so much pressure from the big Austin distributors, however, that Austin finally persuaded us to allow the Austin-Healey to go out through their normal Austin outlets, in return for which they gave us an Austin franchise. My son Brian took over the retail side." (emphasis mine) The period he's referring to, of course, is 1952-1954. So from the very beginning of the Austin-Healey relationship, Donald Healey Motor Company had an Austin franchise, which would very soon have become a BMC franchise. I didn't search other books, but I know I can find a picture from later on, of the converted movie theatre in Warwick which DHMCo acquired as their retail showroom when they expanded beyond The Cape. I'm sure other people on this list can confirm that the Healey family had a BMC franchise. Gary Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk http://www.team.net/archive From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sat Dec 26 04:29:18 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 12:29:18 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Garage Design In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B35F38E.9090809@chello.nl> You will need some decent floor joists for such a large span. I would suggest pine joists not less than 3" x 11" at 20" spacing or less. This will be a safe and stable floor. Forget the idea of light storage, that will not happen in the end, believe me. Use 3/4" underlayment ply for the deck, cheap and strong. Kees Oudesluijs NL Awgertoo at aol.com schreef: > I am doing preliminary design of a garage and have a question for the > smart guys here: > > The building will be of frame construction and will be 25' wide. I would > like to put a loft with a plywood deck over a portion of the main floor--the > dimensions of the loft being 25' square. The loft would be used for light > storage with weight being exclusively on the sides and no appreciable > weight in the center. I could tolerate some floor bounce if need be. > > Here's the question: What size floor joists or fabricated wood trusses > would I need to adequately support the loft without any columns to the concrete > floor below--in other words using a free span--and on what centers would > they need to be? > > I have read from one site that 16" floor trusses on 24" centers will span > 27-1/2'. Any input appreciated. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sat Dec 26 05:10:40 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 13:10:40 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Garage Design In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B35FD40.6030008@chello.nl> Sorry, I screwed up with the inches. The joists to be used in my opinion are min. 3" x 9" ( not 3"x 11") spaced at max. 20". Kees Oudesluijs NL Awgertoo at aol.com schreef: > I am doing preliminary design of a garage and have a question for the > smart guys here: > > The building will be of frame construction and will be 25' wide. I would > like to put a loft with a plywood deck over a portion of the main floor--the > dimensions of the loft being 25' square. The loft would be used for light > storage with weight being exclusively on the sides and no appreciable > weight in the center. I could tolerate some floor bounce if need be. > > Here's the question: What size floor joists or fabricated wood trusses > would I need to adequately support the loft without any columns to the concrete > floor below--in other words using a free span--and on what centers would > they need to be? > > I have read from one site that 16" floor trusses on 24" centers will span > 27-1/2'. Any input appreciated. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive From j.aeckerlin at gmail.com Sat Dec 26 06:42:11 2009 From: j.aeckerlin at gmail.com (Jaap Aeckerlin) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 14:42:11 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Garage Design In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4e23c7250912260542t4a6fe7e6uc8e5579e0ec0f19b@mail.gmail.com> ........ and don't forget 2 steel verticals plus one steel H-beam horizontally to lift the engine and gearbox! Jack Aeckerlin, The Netherlands 2009/12/26 > I am doing preliminary design of a garage and have a question for the > smart guys here: > > The building will be of frame construction and will be 25' wide. I would > like to put a loft with a plywood deck over a portion of the main > floor--the > dimensions of the loft being 25' square. The loft would be used for light > storage with weight being exclusively on the sides and no appreciable > weight in the center. I could tolerate some floor bounce if need be. > > Here's the question: What size floor joists or fabricated wood trusses > would I need to adequately support the loft without any columns to the > concrete > floor below--in other words using a free span--and on what centers would > they need to be? > > I have read from one site that 16" floor trusses on 24" centers will span > 27-1/2'. Any input appreciated. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as j.aeckerlin at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Sat Dec 26 08:05:42 2009 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 10:05:42 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Garage Design References: <4e23c7250912260542t4a6fe7e6uc8e5579e0ec0f19b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000801ca863c$e4f7df50$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> How bout "box trusses" up top with 3x8 at the bottom that will give you plenty of strength overhead and then with a bit of 3/4 flooring for the attic floor and a walk up stair on the back wall . Instant storage space for tranys, extra Healey parts and of course some of your wifes stuff. It pays to think a head. Have fun, Mark From richchrysler at quickclic.net Sat Dec 26 08:38:20 2009 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 10:38:20 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Longbridge Parts Needed Message-ID: Hello all, Hope everybody is wading successfully through the holiday season. Here's something to take your mind off the overindulgence of this time of year..... I am presently working on a very early Longbridge built 100/Six, in fact she's Body 326, built 25 October, 1956. This is a complete ground up restoration of the highest order possible and an tring to get everything exactly right. I am needing a few pieces that are not commercially available. Therefore I'm turning to this terrific list for help. (how's that for groveling?) I need to find a workable pair of exterior door handles, the early flat pull series with the lock on the left one. Left handle with lock would be part number 14B 7486 I also need an original design single tube tail pipe. I was lucky to find an original Burgess 2 in / 1 out muffler, so this would be the pipe that goes with it. This would be part number 11B 2126, used up until car 48862. I know I can probably get one custom bent, etc. but if there's an original lying about out there, that needs to go to "the right car", I need to at least ask. I also am looking for the earliest series of engine hood (bonnet) that has a plain skin that actually precedes the commonly seen raised pressing style. It's also different than the later plain bonnets in that it wouldn't yet have the inner strengthening brace that was applied later. It would be easy to spot because it would be a plain surface, yet have the bonnet prop rod mounting on the left side (carburetor side) of the car. I need the mounting bracket for the glass windscreen washer jar, part number 17H 581. Last, I need to find the early Trafalgar windscreen washer pump, part number 17H 577. I realize and understand that these pieces are literally collectors items, but I have to ask... Regards, Rich Chrysler From ah3000me at gmail.com Sat Dec 26 08:41:28 2009 From: ah3000me at gmail.com (Tom) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 10:41:28 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Happy Holidays & Merry Christmas In-Reply-To: References: <15501762.1261682053845.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <004701ca84d1$9c3dd650$d4b982f0$@rr.com> Message-ID: A belated Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all! Here's a picture of our English bulldog all dressed up for the holidays: http://tfwilliams.info/Gretchen_AH_XMAS2009.jpg btw -- anyone else get caught in Comcast's Christmas Day Massacre? They stopped service to all the cable modems they deemed obsolete on Christmas Day. No internet, no phone service, no way to replace the modem... Aiyiyi... Thankfully, there's a nice coffee shop here in New London with internet access. - Tom From jmnewt at comcast.net Sat Dec 26 08:48:59 2009 From: jmnewt at comcast.net (Jack Newton) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 08:48:59 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Ebay 100-4 Project Car Message-ID: <2972F73500DA403BB7C8B368EED22F2D@jackniolfz37if> For any listers interested in a 100-4 restoration project, I have one presently on Ebay. This is a fairly solid 55 BN-1 with clear title and BMIHT Certificate. Engine and Trans not in the listing but are available from seller. Have a look and buy yourself a New Years project. Item # is 150400161002. Contact me off list for other details. Jack From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat Dec 26 09:14:40 2009 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 08:14:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Happy Holidays & Merry Christmas In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <980309.26894.qm@web51401.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Now THAT'S an anti-theft device! Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sat, 12/26/09, Tom wrote: From: Tom Subject: Re: [Healeys] Happy Holidays & Merry Christmas To: healeys at autox.team.net Date: Saturday, December 26, 2009, 10:41 AM A belated Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all! Here's a picture of our English bulldog all dressed up for the holidays: http://tfwilliams.info/Gretchen_AH_XMAS2009.jpg From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat Dec 26 09:16:50 2009 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 08:16:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Donald Healey's retail business In-Reply-To: <000001ca860f$9c901480$d5b03d80$@lachlan@homecall.co.uk> Message-ID: <985342.26876.qm@web51401.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Weren't they selling FIATs from the cinema showroom after the finished with BL? Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sat, 12/26/09, Simon Lachlan wrote: From: Simon Lachlan Subject: Re: [Healeys] Donald Healey's retail business To: Editorgary at aol.com, healeys at autox.team.net Date: Saturday, December 26, 2009, 4:41 AM I went to the old cinema show room in Warwick years ago. Actually +/- 38 yrs ago. It was still open, but barely functioning. No cars and I think it was in the final throes of clearing out and closing up. I had my first BT7 MkII then and went upstairs to the Parts dept on spec. It was virtually cleared out. I asked them what they had left for my car and they had a Parts book, a red armrest with white piping and one of the heater controls, the slider knob I think. I bought these or they gave them to me. Simon -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Editorgary at aol.com Sent: 25 December 2009 12:25 To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Donald Healey's retail business In a message dated 12/24/09 5:48:51 PM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > > Gary, my understanding has been that the special arrangement enjoyed by > the > Donald Healey Motor Company with BMC (that gave DMH exclusive rights to > market the cars to U.S. forces in the UK) applied only to Austin-Healeys. > Do you (or anyone else) know if that is so or not? > No exhaustive research here, but five minutes with Donald Healey/Peter Garnier My World of Cars found this (p. 109): Part of the Austin deal was that we should have the sale conscession in the UK for Austin-Healey cars, that we alone should sell the first batch. As well as the small showroom-cum-drawing office we built at The Cape, we opened a showroom at the Austin servce Centre in West London. There was so much pressure from the big Austin distributors, however, that Austin finally persuaded us to allow the Austin-Healey to go out through their normal Austin outlets, in return for which they gave us an Austin franchise. My son Brian took over the retail side." (emphasis mine) The period he's referring to, of course, is 1952-1954. So from the very beginning of the Austin-Healey relationship, Donald Healey Motor Company had an Austin franchise, which would very soon have become a BMC franchise. I didn't search other books, but I know I can find a picture from later on, of the converted movie theatre in Warwick which DHMCo acquired as their retail showroom when they expanded beyond The Cape. I'm sure other people on this list can confirm that the Healey family had a BMC franchise. Gary Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk http://www.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat Dec 26 09:24:17 2009 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 08:24:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Intermeccanica Italia In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <269305.91039.qm@web51404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Here you go: http://www.team.net/mharc/archives/html/healeys/2009-10/msg00842.html I've always admired the Italia and about 10 yrs ago saw a decrepit one languishing outside a gas station near Boston. I had hopes of picking it up cheap, but alas, the owner knew exactly what he had. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sat, 12/26/09, PG wrote: From: PG Subject: [Healeys] Intermeccanica Italia To: "'healey'" Date: Saturday, December 26, 2009, 1:43 AM Somebody on the list mentioned that he had a neighbor who had a black on red Intermeccanica Italia roadster. For the life of me, I can't find that email and would like to make contact..can you perhaps resend me your contact information "off-list". Thanks Paul Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive From satkinson7314 at charter.net Sat Dec 26 10:17:21 2009 From: satkinson7314 at charter.net (Simon & Christine Atkinson) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 12:17:21 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] body panel fit Message-ID: <3CA27067647B4F18B9AD80EC04F744DF@AtkinsonPC> Need some advice. Have my chassis rolling with all brake lines and electrical done, dash installed and gas tank in. Question 1: Has anyone had any experience test fitting body panels while adding weight to simulate the engine/trans in place? How much weight did you add? Question 2: What's the best way to strip 2 coats of paint off the panels? Should this be done after all repairs so you can immediately prime and paint after? Question 3: Anyone know of a good shop within 100miles of Connecticut that would rebuild the engine and transmission/OD together? Any experience on price paid over the past 12months for a 2600cc 6cyl? Thanks, Simon From wilkmanracing at aol.com Sat Dec 26 10:44:01 2009 From: wilkmanracing at aol.com (wilkmanracing at aol.com) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 12:44:01 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] body panel fit In-Reply-To: <3CA27067647B4F18B9AD80EC04F744DF@AtkinsonPC> References: <3CA27067647B4F18B9AD80EC04F744DF@AtkinsonPC> Message-ID: <8CC546A24A79DD6-40DC-10AD7@webmail-m051.sysops.aol.com> I would suggest you do all the body work and have the panels primed with an epoxy primer. Then install the drive train. With that in place you will have the exact weight and distribution you need. There is no need to test fit panels before everything else is in place. On the steel panels, I'd suggest you have them dipped by one of the professional stripping places. It will remove all rust, bondo, and paint in one shot. Then when you get the panels back, have a body shop prime them with an epoxy primer. These paints are extremely toxic, so they are not for a home brew job, unless you have a fresh air system and and some sort of enclosed space with good ventilation. The body shop could also do any straightening before applying the epoxy primer. I believe aluminum will melt in the stripping solution, so those will have to be stripped by hand. You can use aircraft paint stripper or do as I did, use a 3M Bristle Disk in a grinder. It's a plastic brush-like tool that strips the paint, but spares the aluminum. Bill Wilkman BT7 -----Original Message----- From: Simon & Christine Atkinson To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, Dec 26, 2009 12:17 pm Subject: [Healeys] body panel fit Need some advice. Have my chassis rolling with all brake lines and electrical done, dash nstalled and gas tank in. Question 1: Has anyone had any experience test fitting body panels while adding weight o simulate the engine/trans in place? How much weight did you add? Question 2: What's the best way to strip 2 coats of paint off the panels? Should this be one after all repairs so you can immediately prime and paint after? Question 3: Anyone know of a good shop within 100miles of Connecticut that would rebuild he engine and transmission/OD together? Any experience on price paid over he past 12months for a 2600cc 6cyl? Thanks, Simon Healeys at autox.team.net ttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as wilkmanracing at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive From richchrysler at quickclic.net Sat Dec 26 10:57:30 2009 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 12:57:30 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: body panel fit Message-ID: > Hello Simon, > > Please see answers below interspersed with your questions........... > >> Need some advice. >> >> Have my chassis rolling with all brake lines and electrical done, dash >> installed and gas tank in. > >> Question 1: >> Has anyone had any experience test fitting body panels while adding >> weight >> to simulate the engine/trans in place? How much weight did you add? > If (I repeat "IF") your chassis structure is in good condition you > shouldn't have to preload things. It should only flex an amount measurable > in thousandths of an inch > > Question 2: > What's the best way to strip 2 coats of paint off the panels? Should this > be >> done after all repairs so you can immediately prime and paint after? > You can do this yourself by hand but it's a lot of time consuming labour. > We always have the panels dip stripped and immediately sprayed with a self > etching prmer if we can't get to the repairing portion of the work right > away. All the repairs are done thereafter. However, all these panel > repairs should have been done before any of the chassis assembly work > began. You may well have to get into chassis repair work to get all the > body panels to fit properly. Rich Chrysler From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Sat Dec 26 12:17:54 2009 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 20:17:54 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Longbridge Parts Needed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3D88771@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> Hello Rich, It does not help you, but I have seen one of these very early bonnets fitted to a BJ8. The car was on desplay on our Club Stand at the NEC Classic Motor Show in Birmingham this year. It was the first time I saw such a bonnet and thought it was an aftermarket part done wrong. It had the bonnet prop rod mounting on the left side (carburetor side) of the car and the bracket on the shroud was fitted to work with this bonnet. The bonnet was without the inner strengthening brace. The car was given for display by a (private) restorer who did some work on the car. The owner is from Spain. If you are interested, I will check if I did pictures which shows the bonnet. But the engine bay was not realy impressive. So I may not did any. But can check, if you like. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/GERMANY -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Rich C Gesendet: Samstag, 26. Dezember 2009 16:38 An: Healeys Betreff: [Healeys] Longbridge Parts Needed Hello all, Hope everybody is wading successfully through the holiday season. Here's something to take your mind off the overindulgence of this time of year..... I am presently working on a very early Longbridge built 100/Six, in fact she's Body 326, built 25 October, 1956. This is a complete ground up restoration of the highest order possible and an tring to get everything exactly right. I am needing a few pieces that are not commercially available. Therefore I'm turning to this terrific list for help. (how's that for groveling?) I need to find a workable pair of exterior door handles, the early flat pull series with the lock on the left one. Left handle with lock would be part number 14B 7486 I also need an original design single tube tail pipe. I was lucky to find an original Burgess 2 in / 1 out muffler, so this would be the pipe that goes with it. This would be part number 11B 2126, used up until car 48862. I know I can probably get one custom bent, etc. but if there's an original lying about out there, that needs to go to "the right car", I need to at least ask. I also am looking for the earliest series of engine hood (bonnet) that has a plain skin that actually precedes the commonly seen raised pressing style. It's also different than the later plain bonnets in that it wouldn't yet have the inner strengthening brace that was applied later. It would be easy to spot because it would be a plain surface, yet have the bonnet prop rod mounting on the left side (carburetor side) of the car. I need the mounting bracket for the glass windscreen washer jar, part number 17H 581. Last, I need to find the early Trafalgar windscreen washer pump, part number 17H 577. I realize and understand that these pieces are literally collectors items, but I have to ask... Regards, Rich Chrysler _____________ From maxandreb1 at yahoo.com Sat Dec 26 13:15:12 2009 From: maxandreb1 at yahoo.com (Maurice Maxwell) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 12:15:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Garage Design In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <504007.10162.qm@web58201.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Michael, one other useful feature, make the ceiling at least 12 ft so the lift can be used to its fullest. Max 1961 BT7 --- On Sat, 12/26/09, Awgertoo at aol.com wrote: From: Awgertoo at aol.com Subject: [Healeys] Garage Design To: healeys at autox.team.net Date: Saturday, December 26, 2009, 12:00 AM I am doing preliminary design of a garage and have a question for the smart guys here: The building will be of frame construction and will be 25' wide. I would like to put a loft with a plywood deck over a portion of the main floor--the dimensions of the loft being 25' square. The loft would be used for light storage with weight being exclusively on the sides and no appreciable weight in the center. I could tolerate some floor bounce if need be. Here's the question: What size floor joists or fabricated wood trusses would I need to adequately support the loft without any columns to the concrete floor below--in other words using a free span--and on what centers would they need to be? I have read from one site that 16" floor trusses on 24" centers will span 27-1/2'. Any input appreciated. Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as maxandreb1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive From spyderweb at uwalumni.com Sat Dec 26 13:22:28 2009 From: spyderweb at uwalumni.com (Jim Hill) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 14:22:28 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Searching For an Old Friend Message-ID: <3afbecf40912261222r201acbf4s85d2451a352692b6@mail.gmail.com> I know this inquiry is a long shot and is of interest only to me, but if you'll forgive me... My very first car was a 1958 Austin Healey 4-seater, purchased in 1959 in Southern California, which I owned for four years. While I had the car, a number of modifications were made, including a repaint from Healey Blue and white coves to red with white coves, the installation of a racing cam and a roll bar, a substantial increase in compression ratio and other performance modifications for SCCA racing. It was raced at Pomona and Riverside for two years (which it survived without incident) and then retired to street use. The car was sold to a fellow named Gurwitz, a classmate of mine at UC Riverside and I lost track of the car -- but I've wondered from time to time if its still around. The only other bit of information I have on the car is the California license plate it carried when I sold it: PSM 099 If by some chance this car still exists, I'd very much like to hear about it. Thanks, Jim Hill spyderweb at uwalumni.com From dan at warner-associates.com Sat Dec 26 14:30:06 2009 From: dan at warner-associates.com (Dan Stromquist) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 15:30:06 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Garage Design In-Reply-To: <504007.10162.qm@web58201.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Be sure to specify 8 foot doors and not the standard 7 foot (about the same cost) Dan -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Maurice Maxwell Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 2:15 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net; Awgertoo at aol.com Subject: Re: [Healeys] Garage Design Michael, one other useful feature, make the ceiling at least 12 ft so the lift can be used to its fullest. Max 1961 BT7 --- On Sat, 12/26/09, Awgertoo at aol.com wrote: From: Awgertoo at aol.com Subject: [Healeys] Garage Design To: healeys at autox.team.net Date: Saturday, December 26, 2009, 12:00 AM I am doing preliminary design of a garage and have a question for the smart guys here: The building will be of frame construction and will be 25' wide. I would like to put a loft with a plywood deck over a portion of the main floor--the dimensions of the loft being 25' square. The loft would be used for light storage with weight being exclusively on the sides and no appreciable weight in the center. I could tolerate some floor bounce if need be. Here's the question: What size floor joists or fabricated wood trusses would I need to adequately support the loft without any columns to the concrete floor below--in other words using a free span--and on what centers would they need to be? I have read from one site that 16" floor trusses on 24" centers will span 27-1/2'. Any input appreciated. Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as maxandreb1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as dan at warner-associates.com http://www.team.net/archive From linwoodrose at mac.com Sat Dec 26 14:48:21 2009 From: linwoodrose at mac.com (Linwood H Rose) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 16:48:21 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] electric power steering Message-ID: <8E2523A7-7C4F-4C94-8318-B4F0CEEA3450@mac.com> Anyone tried this on a Healey? http://www.ezpowersteering.nl/index.php?p=0&lang=en Lin From eyera3 at gmail.com Sat Dec 26 15:06:28 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 14:06:28 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Garage Design In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <173126440912261406y2e21a6c1ne3a311d98b8dcc32@mail.gmail.com> It would be in your county code books. They will list not only the size of the joists, but the distance between joists for both laminated and dimensional lumber. You might consider steel joists. You will need fewer of them and they will be stronger. Plus you can hang an engine hoist from one of them. Ira. BTW, will return to the Kotel to accomplish your request. Hope it speeds you recovery :) On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 9:00 PM, wrote: > I am doing preliminary design of a garage and have a question for the > smart guys here: > > The building will be of frame construction and will be 25' wide. I would > like to put a loft with a plywood deck over a portion of the main > floor--the > dimensions of the loft being 25' square. The loft would be used for light > storage with weight being exclusively on the sides and no appreciable > weight in the center. I could tolerate some floor bounce if need be. > > Here's the question: What size floor joists or fabricated wood trusses > would I need to adequately support the loft without any columns to the > concrete > floor below--in other words using a free span--and on what centers would > they need to be? > > I have read from one site that 16" floor trusses on 24" centers will span > 27-1/2'. Any input appreciated. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- I Erbs Portland, OR From ahbn6 at verizon.net Sat Dec 26 15:37:24 2009 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 17:37:24 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] electric power steering In-Reply-To: <8E2523A7-7C4F-4C94-8318-B4F0CEEA3450@mac.com> References: <8E2523A7-7C4F-4C94-8318-B4F0CEEA3450@mac.com> Message-ID: <005e01ca867b$ff5b18a0$fe1149e0$@net> Someone on the list has and gave me that link. I forget who has done it on his car but it has been done. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ http://www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Linwood H Rose Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 4:48 PM To: healeylist Subject: [Healeys] electric power steering Anyone tried this on a Healey? http://www.ezpowersteering.nl/index.php?p=0&lang=en Lin _______________________________________________ From rdryman1 at yahoo.com Sat Dec 26 15:42:29 2009 From: rdryman1 at yahoo.com (Richard Dryman) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 14:42:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] electric power steering In-Reply-To: <8E2523A7-7C4F-4C94-8318-B4F0CEEA3450@mac.com> References: <8E2523A7-7C4F-4C94-8318-B4F0CEEA3450@mac.com> Message-ID: <547060.37432.qm@web110304.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Not everyone speaks Dutch ! English translation>>> http://tiny.cc/powersteering also Flaming River units for hot rods in the USA: >>> http://www.flamingriver.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=results/Category_ID=210/home_id=80/mode=cat/cat210.htm ________________________________ From: Linwood H Rose Subject: [Healeys] electric power steering Anyone tried this on a Healey? http://www.ezpowersteering.nl/index.php?p=0&lang=en From jkrowe46 at bigpond.net.au Sat Dec 26 16:06:51 2009 From: jkrowe46 at bigpond.net.au (John & Kerry Rowe) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 09:06:51 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] FW: electric power steering Message-ID: <20091226230651.SZTQ5306.nskntotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@rowe4323ef3cc5> -----Original Message----- From: John & Kerry Rowe [mailto:jkrowe46 at bigpond.net.au] Sent: Sunday, 27 December 2009 9:05 AM To: 'Richard Dryman' Subject: RE: [Healeys] electric power steering Go to top right corner and click on English flag for that version Sounds like a good idea John Rowe Qld Aust -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard Dryman Sent: Sunday, 27 December 2009 8:42 AM To: Linwood H Rose; healeylist Subject: Re: [Healeys] electric power steering Not everyone speaks Dutch ! English translation>>> http://tiny.cc/powersteering also Flaming River units for hot rods in the USA: >>> http://www.flamingriver.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=results/Category_ID=210/hom e_id=80/mode=cat/cat210.htm ________________________________ From Awgertoo at aol.com Sat Dec 26 16:23:23 2009 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 18:23:23 EST Subject: [Healeys] Garage Design Message-ID: Folks-- Thanks for all the good advise. It was never my intention to draw this up on the back of the napkin and build it--both the building and design will be professionally done. I amm simply fiddling with "pre-plans" to get an idea of how I might lay the building out and one factor (building/celing height involved the supporting rafters under the loft. I will take the advise of several and plan on more stuff going up in the loft than I might now think and build it strong. I'm also going to reduce the building's width by one foot to 24' and so take advantage of dimensional lumber and have less waste. Thanks again--Michael From Awgertoo at aol.com Sat Dec 26 16:26:13 2009 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 18:26:13 EST Subject: [Healeys] Searching For an Old Friend Message-ID: In a message dated 12/26/2009 3:46:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, spyderweb at uwalumni.com writes: If by some chance this car still exists, I'd very much like to hear about it. Jim-- It's out there playing with my 1959 BRG BN7 with chrome wires, a wolf-whistle tapped into the intake manifold and Marshall driving lights that I sold in around 1962 in NYC. If you find yours let me know as I'd like to find my old, first-love Healey. Best--Michael From linwoodrose at mac.com Sat Dec 26 16:32:37 2009 From: linwoodrose at mac.com (Linwood H Rose) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 18:32:37 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] electric power steering In-Reply-To: <547060.37432.qm@web110304.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <8E2523A7-7C4F-4C94-8318-B4F0CEEA3450@mac.com> <547060.37432.qm@web110304.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5C5A1DEE-07C9-4C72-87A3-8F83FB997939@mac.com> Click on the American Flag at the top for the English version. Lin Sent from my iPhone On Dec 26, 2009, at 5:42 PM, Richard Dryman wrote: > Not everyone speaks Dutch ! > English translation>>> http://tiny.cc/powersteering > > also Flaming River units for hot rods in the USA: > >>>> http://www.flamingriver.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=results/Category_ID=210/home_id=80/mode=cat/cat210.htm > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Linwood H Rose > Subject: [Healeys] electric power steering > > Anyone tried this on a Healey? > > http://www.ezpowersteering.nl/index.php?p=0&lang=en > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as linwoodrose at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sat Dec 26 16:37:33 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 00:37:33 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] electric power steering In-Reply-To: <8E2523A7-7C4F-4C94-8318-B4F0CEEA3450@mac.com> References: <8E2523A7-7C4F-4C94-8318-B4F0CEEA3450@mac.com> Message-ID: <4B369E3D.9010507@chello.nl> These are universal sets that are adapted to a specific car. It is derived or originating from a modern Japanese power steering unit as used by several EU and Jap cars. They changed to electric instead of hydraulic because of its simplicity, reliability and ease of installation. I have seen it installed on a TR6 and a Citroen HY and appearantly works well. Allthough the site is in Dutch the original system is from the UK I believe, however I am not sure. It can be adapted to most cars and there is an adaption fot the AH100-3000. Not cheap at around $3000-4000. I know of a local garage for classic cars that installs them. Kees Oudesluijs NL Linwood H Rose schreef: > Anyone tried this on a Healey? > > http://www.ezpowersteering.nl/index.php?p=0&lang=en > > Lin > _______________________________________________ From healey.nut at gmail.com Sat Dec 26 17:18:45 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 19:18:45 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Garage Design In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Not to over battleship the design, but if you have a rolling ceiling lift for pulling motors (say in the front half of the shed), it would be smart to where you have the loft in the back half of the ceiling and use the electric lift to pull heavier stuff into the loft for storage, rather than you carrying spare gearboxes up the stairs by hand. On 12/27/09, Awgertoo at aol.com wrote: > Folks-- > > Thanks for all the good advise. It was never my intention to draw this up > on the back of the napkin and build it--both the building and design will > be professionally done. I amm simply fiddling with "pre-plans" to get an > idea of how I might lay the building out and one factor (building/celing > height involved the supporting rafters under the loft. > > I will take the advise of several and plan on more stuff going up in the > loft than I might now think and build it strong. I'm also going to reduce > the building's width by one foot to 24' and so take advantage of > dimensional > lumber and have less waste. > > Thanks again--Michael > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Sent from my mobile device Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 From sales at justbrits.com Sat Dec 26 18:05:22 2009 From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ") Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 19:05:22 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] electric power steering In-Reply-To: <5C5A1DEE-07C9-4C72-87A3-8F83FB997939@mac.com> References: <8E2523A7-7C4F-4C94-8318-B4F0CEEA3450@mac.com> <547060.37432.qm@web110304.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <5C5A1DEE-07C9-4C72-87A3-8F83FB997939@mac.com> Message-ID: <4B36B2D2.7070702@justbrits.com> << Click on the American Flag at the top for the English version. >> Or just be REAL 'lazy' and get the Google Tool Bar !!! It ASKS you if you would like to translate !! And from WHICH language to which !! Also gives you the auto blank search 'box'. Don't we ALL search for something almost every day ??? I don't know how anybody can be without !!! And it's FREE !!!! Hope ALL had a wonderful and Merry Christmas !!! Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com From kentmclean at comcast.net Sat Dec 26 18:16:58 2009 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 20:16:58 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Garage Design In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B36B58A.4040801@comcast.net> Awgertoo wrote: > I'm also going to reduce the building's width by one foot to 24' Or go up 3' to 28', so you'll have more space. You can always use more space. :) -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 From sales at justbrits.com Sat Dec 26 18:44:29 2009 From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ") Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 19:44:29 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Happy Holidays & Merry Christmas In-Reply-To: References: <15501762.1261682053845.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <004701ca84d1$9c3dd650$d4b982f0$@rr.com> Message-ID: <4B36BBFD.7060608@justbrits.com> << btw -- anyone else get caught in Comcast's Christmas Day Massacre? They stopped service to all the cable modems they deemed obsolete on Christmas Day. No internet, no phone service, no way to replace the modem... Aiyiyi... >> YIKES Tom !!! Bur must have been "local" to you as I do have Internet & TV and we had ZERO problems ALL day !!!! Other then that, hope you & yours had a VERY Merry Christmas !!! Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com From sales at justbrits.com Sat Dec 26 18:53:50 2009 From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ") Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 19:53:50 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Frogeye Org. Start Pull.... Message-ID: <4B36BE2E.1010003@justbrits.com> on fleaBay !!! Little work & one would have a Concours item !!!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItem&item=270505667531&category=140731&_ trksid=p4340.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSI%26its%3DI %252BC%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D10%26ps%3D63 or *http://tinyurl.com/yl7mqaj * From tomfelts at windstream.net Sat Dec 26 19:33:38 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 20:33:38 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Sprite Joy Message-ID: <20091226203338.YWZRZ.64519.root@ispmxfep10-z01> Enjoy a hill climb!! See who wins. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-DGMrLGnLg From 63ahbj7 at comcast.net Sat Dec 26 20:51:09 2009 From: 63ahbj7 at comcast.net (63ahbj7) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 21:51:09 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Sprite Joy In-Reply-To: <20091226203338.YWZRZ.64519.root@ispmxfep10-z01> References: <20091226203338.YWZRZ.64519.root@ispmxfep10-z01> Message-ID: <4B36D9AD.8080907@comcast.net> << Enjoy a hill climb!! See who wins. >> Since the clip is OVER two (2) years [older than you also ], old, I'll take the Frogeye for $100.00. You 'on' ??? Ed PS: I even think I've seen it posted here !! From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Sun Dec 27 00:44:01 2009 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 18:44:01 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] BN1 Chassis with 4-speed Mountings Message-ID: <14710F43EB6C4F7CBAC211A40082855F@PatrickQuinnPC> G'day Perhaps this will prove of interest and someone might have heard of this beforehand? I had a call from a friend who was fitting a 4-speed BN2 gearbox to a BN1. The chassis number of the car is BN1/223174 and correctly it is fitted with a hypoid drive rear end. As far as it's known the car has never been fully restored nor had an accident. As most would know the mountings for a BN1 gearbox are vastly different to that of the BN2. With the gearbox removed my friend was preparing the chassis for the new mounting brackets and while scraping away with a screwdriver found that the BN2 mounting and captive nuts were already fitted to the chassis. Has anyone come across a BN1 chassis that has such BN2 fittings already installed? Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia (Where it's mid summer) From tomfelts at windstream.net Sun Dec 27 06:34:05 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 8:34:05 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Sprite Joy In-Reply-To: <4B36D9AD.8080907@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20091227073405.4VZJ8.64993.root@ispmxfep12-z02> Well EXcuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me. Since it is 2 years old, how were you able to remember it? (VBG) (LOL) (he he) ---- 63ahbj7 <63ahbj7 at comcast.net> wrote: ============= << Enjoy a hill climb!! See who wins. >> Since the clip is OVER two (2) years [older than you also ], old, I'll take the Frogeye for $100.00. You 'on' ??? Ed PS: I even think I've seen it posted here !! Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net http://www.team.net/archive From frogeye at porterscustom.com Sun Dec 27 07:17:30 2009 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (Dave Porter) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 07:17:30 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BN1 Chassis with 4-speed Mountings In-Reply-To: <14710F43EB6C4F7CBAC211A40082855F@PatrickQuinnPC> References: <14710F43EB6C4F7CBAC211A40082855F@PatrickQuinnPC> Message-ID: <2D969865F8EF4BE582D5FD13D3719805@oscar> Yep, that would be mine.. It had a BN1 gearbox crudely mounted with brackets. Did the humane thing and installed a proper 4 speed with a 28% reduction O/D and topped it off with a spiral bevel 3.6667:1 Atlantic pumpkin... BN1/ 151480 frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs 2909 Arno NE Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 1959 AN5 Porter Custom Bicycles cars: www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff blog: http://porterbikes.com/ -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Patrick and Caroline Quinn Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 12:44 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] BN1 Chassis with 4-speed Mountings G'day Perhaps this will prove of interest and someone might have heard of this beforehand? I had a call from a friend who was fitting a 4-speed BN2 gearbox to a BN1. The chassis number of the car is BN1/223174 and correctly it is fitted with a hypoid drive rear end. As far as it's known the car has never been fully restored nor had an accident. As most would know the mountings for a BN1 gearbox are vastly different to that of the BN2. With the gearbox removed my friend was preparing the chassis for the new mounting brackets and while scraping away with a screwdriver found that the BN2 mounting and captive nuts were already fitted to the chassis. Has anyone come across a BN1 chassis that has such BN2 fittings already installed? Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia (Where it's mid summer) Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as frogeye at porterscustom.com http://www.team.net/archive From eschulz at frontiernet.net Sun Dec 27 07:59:00 2009 From: eschulz at frontiernet.net (Elton Schulz) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 09:59:00 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Rear Hub Issue Message-ID: <2C93233C5F9C40D68D86250E6D66C111@655vb01> Fellow Listers, In replacing the bearings in the rear hubs, the workshop manual states that "the outer face of the bearing spacer should protrude from .001" to .004" beyond the outer face of the hub AND THE PAPER WASHER when the bearing is pressed into position." This doesn't seem to make sense to me because then the paper washer could not be compressed by the axle flange to provide a seal. What am I missing? Your help is appreciated. Elton BJ7 in progress From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Sun Dec 27 12:49:19 2009 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Len and/or Marge Hartnett) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 11:49:19 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Chritmas Friday Funny In-Reply-To: <751d05480912250417r4ad8028aka442526c3afd3a2e@mail.gmail.com> References: <751d05480912250417r4ad8028aka442526c3afd3a2e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Funny and evokes distrubing images. Now unlock your doors, open the curtains, and reconnect your phone. Then check http://www.snopes.com/humor/jokes/thermometer.asp Did you keep the receipt so you can return the thermometer?? ;-) Happy New Year and keep those Friday Funnys coming! (The Other) Len Vacaville, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Curt/Nancy Arndt" To: "Healey List" Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 4:17 AM Subject: [Healeys] Chritmas Friday Funny > Hi Listers, > > As I leave for work on a chilly (it's 31 degrees F) SoCal Christmas > morning, > and wishing I did not have to be working today, I'll leave you all with > this... > Cheers, > > Curt > * > When you have an 'I Hate My Job day'* > > [Even if you're retired, you sometimes have those days] > > Try this out: > > Stop at your pharmacy and go to the thermometer section and purchase a > rectal thermometer made by Johnson & Johnson. > > Be very sure you get this brand. > > When you get home, lock your doors,draw the curtains and disconnect the > phone so you will not be disturbed. > > Change into very comfortable clothing and sit in your favorite chair. Open > the package and remove the thermometer. Now, carefully place it on a > table > or a surface so that it will not become chipped or broken. > > Now the fun part begins. > > Take out the literature from the box and read it carefully. You will > notice > that in small print there is a statement: > > *"Every Rectal Thermometer made by Johnson & Johnson is personally tested > and then sanitized."* > > Now, close your eyes and repeat out loud five times,' I am so glad I do > not > work in the thermometer quality control department at Johnson & Johnson.' > > HAVE A NICE DAY; AND REMEMBER, THERE IS ALWAYS SOMEONE ELSE WITH A JOB > THAT > IS MORE OF A PAIN IN THE ASS THAN YOURS! > > ....Remember, if you haven't got a smile on your face and laughter in your > heart...Then you are just an old sour fart; > > Maybe you should go and work for Johnson and Johnson > > Enjoy life now - It has an expiration date! > _______________________________________________ From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sun Dec 27 13:32:29 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 21:32:29 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] electric power steering In-Reply-To: <8E2523A7-7C4F-4C94-8318-B4F0CEEA3450@mac.com> References: <8E2523A7-7C4F-4C94-8318-B4F0CEEA3450@mac.com> Message-ID: <4B37C45D.10606@chello.nl> I looked a bit clooser at the article. It is a Dutch firm that develops and builds kits for a wide veriety of classics. I had thought earlier they were a British firm. They also have agents in several countries in Europe. I have seen their work on classic car events for several years and last year I met a garage owner near by who fits the sets and is rather enthousiastic. Appearantly they got the idea from US hotrodders, so I presume you can find similar firms in the US. They do carry a conversion kit for the Austin Healey 100-3000. I am sure they can send the set to the US and you can fit it yourself or have it fitted locally. Kees Oudesluijs NL Linwood H Rose schreef: > Anyone tried this on a Healey? > > http://www.ezpowersteering.nl/index.php?p=0&lang=en > > Lin From noreply at ci.faniq.com Sun Dec 27 15:26:13 2009 From: noreply at ci.faniq.com (Joe M) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 15:26:13 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Healeys] joemulqueen@yahoo.com has sent you a private message Message-ID: <20091227222613.BE77D187644@autox.team.net> From richchrysler at quickclic.net Sun Dec 27 15:36:15 2009 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:36:15 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: BN1 Chassis with 4-speed Mountings Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich C" To: "Patrick and Caroline Quinn" Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN1 Chassis with 4-speed Mountings > Hi Pat, > > BN1 223174 would have come down the assembly line in early January 1955, > long before any possible transitioning would have taken place to prepare > for a 4 speed gearbox. Is there also evidence of the early or later > stabilizing rod cross member? > > I would have to say that somebody has been there before, between the time > the car was built and now and installed those BN2 mounting points. > Many thanks, > > Rich Chrysler > Hundred Registrar > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patrick and Caroline Quinn" > To: > Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 2:44 AM > Subject: [Healeys] BN1 Chassis with 4-speed >> I had a call from a friend who was fitting a 4-speed BN2 gearbox to a >> BN1. >> The chassis number of the car is BN1/223174 and correctly it is fitted >> with >> a hypoid drive rear end. As far as it's known the car has never been >> fully >> restored nor had an accident. > >> As most would know the mountings for a BN1 gearbox are vastly different >> to >> that of the BN2. > >> With the gearbox removed my friend was preparing the chassis for the new >> mounting brackets and while scraping away with a screwdriver found that >> the >> BN2 mounting and captive nuts were already fitted to the chassis. > >> Has anyone come across a BN1 chassis that has such BN2 fittings already >> installed? > >> Hoo Roo >> Patrick Quinn >> >> Sydney, Australia >> >> (Where it's mid summer) From Awgertoo at aol.com Sun Dec 27 15:59:43 2009 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:59:43 EST Subject: [Healeys] Rear Hub Issue Message-ID: In a message dated 12/27/2009 10:19:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, eschulz at frontiernet.net writes: "the outer face of the bearing spacer should protrude from .001" to .004" beyond the outer face of the hub AND THE PAPER WASHER when the bearing is pressed into position." --------------------------------------------------------------------- Elton-- The flange on the half-shaft is "dished" in the middle and the outer flat portion will come in contact with the flat face of the hub and the paper gasket which will compress and provide a seal. Best--Michael Oritt From healey.nut at gmail.com Sun Dec 27 18:18:09 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:18:09 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Car Related - Ford Volvo Sale Message-ID: All - I don't if any of you pay attention to this, but one of the most distressing car things I have seen in the last few years is Ford's plan to sell Volvo to Geely - Geely is China's premier car maker. Basically, Ford is selling Volvo to Geely for about 1/3 what they paid for Volvo just a few years ago. Why would Geely want Volvo? A bit of background from a guy who lives in China - right now the quality of Chinese cars isn't all that bad except in one major area - safety. In this area, Chinese cars are DECADES behind the rest of the world in design. The reason why is designing crumple zones and safety cages is very very complex requiring sophisticated technology and decades of engineering experience - Volvo cars are safe for good reason. If you do any search on Youtube of what happens to a Chinese made car in an accident should scare the crap out of you. So Ford, to settle a very small amount of debt, is selling Volvo for cash to Geely. This has to be one of the most short sighted things I have ever seen any American car company ever do. Basically, Ford is selling the very expertise that Geely needs to destroy Ford in the future in worldwide sales. All for less than 2 billion dollars. I suggest that within a decade Ford will be losing more business globally than that on an annual basis to Geely because of the expertise they are literally giving away for a pocket full of change. Who's to blame for giving assistance on a silver platter to the rise of China? I certainly don't blame the Chinese for this. Ford should be ashamed of itself. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 From amalin at mac.com Sun Dec 27 19:14:51 2009 From: amalin at mac.com (Al Malin) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 21:14:51 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Car Related - Ford Volvo Sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Instead of raising money by selling assets Ford should get some "Obama money" from Obama's Stash. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19v5Kjmc8FI Regards, Al Malin "It's not your father's Obamobile." On Dec 27, 2009, at 8:18 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > All - > > I don't if any of you pay attention to this, but one of the most > distressing > car things I have seen in the last few years is Ford's plan to sell > Volvo to > Geely - Geely is China's premier car maker. > > Basically, Ford is selling Volvo to Geely for about 1/3 what they > paid for > Volvo just a few years ago. Why would Geely want Volvo? > > A bit of background from a guy who lives in China - right now the > quality of > Chinese cars isn't all that bad except in one major area - safety. > In this > area, Chinese cars are DECADES behind the rest of the world in > design. The > reason why is designing crumple zones and safety cages is very very > complex > requiring sophisticated technology and decades of engineering > experience - > Volvo cars are safe for good reason. If you do any search on > Youtube of > what happens to a Chinese made car in an accident should scare the > crap out > of you. > > So Ford, to settle a very small amount of debt, is selling Volvo for > cash to > Geely. This has to be one of the most short sighted things I have > ever seen > any American car company ever do. Basically, Ford is selling the very > expertise that Geely needs to destroy Ford in the future in worldwide > sales. All for less than 2 billion dollars. I suggest that within > a decade > Ford will be losing more business globally than that on an annual > basis to > Geely because of the expertise they are literally giving away for a > pocket > full of change. > > Who's to blame for giving assistance on a silver platter to the rise > of > China? I certainly don't blame the Chinese for this. Ford should be > ashamed of itself. > > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '59 Jag Mk IX > '64 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as amalin at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From 63ahbj7 at comcast.net Sun Dec 27 20:23:10 2009 From: 63ahbj7 at comcast.net (63ahbj7) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 21:23:10 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Car Related - Ford Volvo Sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B38249E.3050405@comcast.net> Agreed Alan ['61 444 saved my life] BUT..... << Ford should be ashamed of itself. >> At least Ford didn't use TARP money ?!? And even Ford is NOT as bad as some of the "management" in the financial 'area' that STILL think they are "worth" [ @ ] $60 MILLION bucks a year [even tho it WAS their decisions that put their Co.(s) in the dumper(s) to start with ?!?!?!? Just curious, have any List Members figured out HOW to run their [and families'] budget at a NEGATIVE balance year after year AND live like the "financial guys" ?!?!? I **AM** in dire need of knowing how to do so !?!? Ed From ynotink at msn.com Sun Dec 27 22:21:48 2009 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 05:21:48 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Car Related - Ford Volvo Sale In-Reply-To: <4B38249E.3050405@comcast.net> References: , <4B38249E.3050405@comcast.net> Message-ID: Not too much to disagree with in this post except that I don't think the current, or even recent management of the big 3 is as much at fault as previous generations of management AND the UAW. Over the last thirty years the unions, with management acquiescence, have systematically turned GM and Chrysler into enormous insurance and retirement plans that also just happen to build a few cars. They essentially killed the golden goose and then they forced their elected lackeys to bail them out using our money. The bail-outs, while nominally intended to benefit the automobile industry, were actually targeted to save the UAW. (The cow may die, but the tapeworm is saved!) Also not helpful to GM was the liability of their huge financial arm which was heavily invested in the housing market. The Fannie/Freddie fiasco did them a lot of harm. Ford had the same problems but made some smarter management decisions in the last few years putting them into the position to be able to ride out the storm without government interference. Instead of taking the Obama buck Ford declared they would rather declare bankruptcy and suddenly the UAW was willing to negotiate. Imagine that! We still have a very healthy automobile manufacturing base in the US, but it goes under names like Honda, Toyota, Nissan and BMW. They are successful because they are non-union. So let's see... The Japanese and Germans are successfully using american labor and materials to build hugely profitable product lines in this country while GM, Ford and Chrysler are on the brink of destruction? Tell me... Who won that war again? Bill Lawrence > Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 21:23:10 -0600 > From: 63ahbj7 at comcast.net > To: Healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car Related - Ford Volvo Sale > > Agreed Alan ['61 444 saved my life] BUT..... > > << Ford should be ashamed of itself. >> > > At least Ford didn't use TARP money ?!? > > And even Ford is NOT as bad as some of the > "management" in the financial 'area' that STILL > think they are "worth" [ @ ] $60 MILLION bucks > a year [even tho it WAS their decisions that put > their Co.(s) in the dumper(s) to start with ?!?!?!? > > Just curious, have any List Members figured out > HOW to run their [and families'] budget at a > NEGATIVE balance year after year AND live like > the "financial guys" ?!?!? > > I **AM** in dire need of knowing how to do so !?!? > > Ed > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as ynotink at msn.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From coudesluijs at chello.nl Mon Dec 28 01:45:51 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:45:51 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Car Related - Ford Volvo Sale In-Reply-To: <4B38249E.3050405@comcast.net> References: <4B38249E.3050405@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4B38703F.40603@chello.nl> By just being a criminal like the financial guys, legally stealing money from others folks. Kees Oudesluijs > > > Just curious, have any List Members figured out > HOW to run their [and families'] budget at a > NEGATIVE balance year after year AND live like > the "financial guys" ?!?!? > > I **AM** in dire need of knowing how to do so !?!? > > Ed From coudesluijs at chello.nl Mon Dec 28 02:13:02 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:13:02 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Car Related - Ford Volvo Sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B38769E.9080708@chello.nl> A few years ago the Chinese tried to sell an SUV in EU called the JMC (Jiangling Motor Company) Landwind. Basicly this was the old Opel Frontera (Izuzu Rodeo, Vauxhall Frontera, Holden Frontera) that General Motors (Opel, Vauxhall, Holden, Izuzu etc.) had to withdraw in haste because it did perform very poorly in the EuroNCAP test. The Landwind did even worse and did not sell at all. The Chinese do not have a clue yet how to deal with car safety, however they are learning fast, as did the Japanese and Koreans in the past: they showed to be far superiour in the end in the devellopment of ideas and quality control. Innovation and design is another matter though. Kees Oudesluijs NL Alan Seigrist schreef: > All - > > I don't if any of you pay attention to this, but one of the most distressing > car things I have seen in the last few years is Ford's plan to sell Volvo to > Geely - Geely is China's premier car maker. > > Basically, Ford is selling Volvo to Geely for about 1/3 what they paid for > Volvo just a few years ago. Why would Geely want Volvo? > > A bit of background from a guy who lives in China - right now the quality of > Chinese cars isn't all that bad except in one major area - safety. In this > area, Chinese cars are DECADES behind the rest of the world in design. The > reason why is designing crumple zones and safety cages is very very complex > requiring sophisticated technology and decades of engineering experience - > Volvo cars are safe for good reason. If you do any search on Youtube of > what happens to a Chinese made car in an accident should scare the crap out > of you. > > So Ford, to settle a very small amount of debt, is selling Volvo for cash to > Geely. This has to be one of the most short sighted things I have ever seen > any American car company ever do. Basically, Ford is selling the very > expertise that Geely needs to destroy Ford in the future in worldwide > sales. All for less than 2 billion dollars. I suggest that within a decade > Ford will be losing more business globally than that on an annual basis to > Geely because of the expertise they are literally giving away for a pocket > full of change. > > Who's to blame for giving assistance on a silver platter to the rise of > China? I certainly don't blame the Chinese for this. Ford should be > ashamed of itself. > > Alan From bcrist at club-internet.fr Mon Dec 28 02:40:46 2009 From: bcrist at club-internet.fr (Bernard Cristalli) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:40:46 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Car Related - Ford Volvo Sale In-Reply-To: <4B38769E.9080708@chello.nl> References: <4B38769E.9080708@chello.nl> Message-ID: <4B387D1E.3030909@club-internet.fr> Since the invention of black powder the chinese didn't create a lot. The litlle red book perhaps?... B Oudesluys a icrit : > > A few years ago the Chinese tried to sell an SUV in EU called the JMC > (Jiangling Motor Company) Landwind. Basicly this was the old Opel > Frontera (Izuzu Rodeo, Vauxhall Frontera, Holden Frontera) that > General Motors (Opel, Vauxhall, Holden, Izuzu etc.) had to withdraw in > haste because it did perform very poorly in the EuroNCAP test. The > Landwind did even worse and did not sell at all. > The Chinese do not have a clue yet how to deal with car safety, > however they are learning fast, as did the Japanese and Koreans in the > past: they showed to be far superiour in the end in the devellopment > of ideas and quality control. Innovation and design is another matter > though. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL > > > Alan Seigrist schreef: >> All - >> >> I don't if any of you pay attention to this, but one of the most >> distressing >> car things I have seen in the last few years is Ford's plan to sell >> Volvo to >> Geely - Geely is China's premier car maker. >> >> Basically, Ford is selling Volvo to Geely for about 1/3 what they >> paid for >> Volvo just a few years ago. Why would Geely want Volvo? >> >> A bit of background from a guy who lives in China - right now the >> quality of >> Chinese cars isn't all that bad except in one major area - safety. >> In this >> area, Chinese cars are DECADES behind the rest of the world in >> design. The >> reason why is designing crumple zones and safety cages is very very >> complex >> requiring sophisticated technology and decades of engineering >> experience - >> Volvo cars are safe for good reason. If you do any search on Youtube of >> what happens to a Chinese made car in an accident should scare the >> crap out >> of you. >> >> So Ford, to settle a very small amount of debt, is selling Volvo for >> cash to >> Geely. This has to be one of the most short sighted things I have >> ever seen >> any American car company ever do. Basically, Ford is selling the very >> expertise that Geely needs to destroy Ford in the future in worldwide >> sales. All for less than 2 billion dollars. I suggest that within a >> decade >> Ford will be losing more business globally than that on an annual >> basis to >> Geely because of the expertise they are literally giving away for a >> pocket >> full of change. >> >> Who's to blame for giving assistance on a silver platter to the rise of >> China? I certainly don't blame the Chinese for this. Ford should be >> ashamed of itself. >> >> Alan > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as jagxk120 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From grday at btinternet.com Mon Dec 28 04:01:47 2009 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:01:47 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Car Related - Ford Volvo Sale References: Message-ID: Much of Volvo technology may not go to Ford as some of it is Ford's current and future investment and this is causing delays in the sale. It understandable from Ford's view point and indeed from China's. However, as it is safety related technology should Ford be so recalcitrant? They seem to be in the same position as China is now when Ford bought the Rover - Land Rover technology and BMW (after getting what they wanted) released it. One very telling thing in relation to Chinese vehicle construction was when they tried to build the Rover 800 after buying the model and transporting the assembly lines to China. Their vehicle failed European crash testing abysmally. The possible reason was the type of metal used in construction. It is understood China used mild steel pressings whereas Rover UK had use a goodly proportion of high strength steel (HSS) pressings. There is a great deal of difference between the two metals, Vauxhall (UK arm of Chrysler) introduced HSS to UK cars quite a few years ago but didn't tell anyone. This came to light when repaired accident damaged cars started appearing strongly in insurance write-off lists following minor bumps. It is understood that Vauxhall had told its dealers where the bodyframe HSS had been included and no-one else. Not all dealers have good communication between themselves and the outsourced body repair shops they use. By far the majority of body repair shops (independent businesses) had not been told. HSS cannot (read should not) be welded as it produces very soft metal lines either side of a 'good looking' weld due to post welding annealing problems but should be glued or lower temperature brazed. Although this is now a widely known within the industry, Vauxhall received industry criticism for their 'closed' approach. China's HSS production (if there is any, after all it is a hi-tech production system), may go to their military but not to the lower ranking car industry. Buying a current Chinese car could be buying a safety problem but sometime in the not too distant future they will be a product to be reckoned with. Guy R Day From coudesluijs at chello.nl Mon Dec 28 04:21:28 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 12:21:28 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Car Related - Ford Volvo Sale In-Reply-To: <4B387D1E.3030909@club-internet.fr> References: <4B38769E.9080708@chello.nl> <4B387D1E.3030909@club-internet.fr> Message-ID: <4B3894B8.8060604@chello.nl> Bernard, I think it is time to reconsidder. They have two very big advantages: they are willing to work very, very hard and they learn fast. It will not be long before they surpass the US as the biggest economy in the world. Kees Oudesluijs NL Bernard Cristalli schreef: > Since the invention of black powder the chinese didn't create a lot. > The litlle red book perhaps?... > B > > Oudesluys a icrit : >> >> A few years ago the Chinese tried to sell an SUV in EU called the JMC >> (Jiangling Motor Company) Landwind. Basicly this was the old Opel >> Frontera (Izuzu Rodeo, Vauxhall Frontera, Holden Frontera) that >> General Motors (Opel, Vauxhall, Holden, Izuzu etc.) had to withdraw >> in haste because it did perform very poorly in the EuroNCAP test. The >> Landwind did even worse and did not sell at all. >> The Chinese do not have a clue yet how to deal with car safety, >> however they are learning fast, as did the Japanese and Koreans in >> the past: they showed to be far superiour in the end in the >> devellopment of ideas and quality control. Innovation and design is >> another matter though. >> Kees Oudesluijs >> NL From sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au Mon Dec 28 04:47:20 2009 From: sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au (Joe and Lenore Armour) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:47:20 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Donald Healey's retail business - LONDON In-Reply-To: <349296.98691.qm@web30301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <349296.98691.qm@web30301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4B389AC8.9010206@illawarra.hotkey.net.au> The London Showroom is shown in the book 'THE HEALEY STORY' p.140 & p.158 Interestingly above the entrance door to the showrooms are shown the following registered companies; * DONALD HEALEY MOTOR CO. LTD. * HEALEY CAR SALES LTD. * HEALEY MARINE LTD. I believe it was when these London showrooms were closed down that John Sprinzel went down stairs to the 'mews' and took over the Healey Speed Equipment organisation. One of his first employees was Australian Paul Hawkins who started as a mechanic and ended up a works driver of Sprites and big Healeys at Sebring and the Targa Florio. He then went on to drive works Ford GT.40's , Porches and Lola T.70's. also the old cinema is shown as a BMC 'INTERNATIONAL SPORTS CAR CENTRE' on p.115 &116 in 'DONALD HEALEY MY WORLD OF CARS' and shown in the showroom are; an MGB and I think an MG Midget. Buy a book at the post Xmas sales Joe From kturk at adelphia.net Mon Dec 28 05:06:40 2009 From: kturk at adelphia.net (Keith Turk) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 06:06:40 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Car Related - Ford Volvo Sale References: <4B38769E.9080708@chello.nl> <4B387D1E.3030909@club-internet.fr> <4B3894B8.8060604@chello.nl> Message-ID: Don't forget it was the Japanese that borrowed the Brit's technology in the 60's.... and through reverse engineering ... All things are possible... K From bluehealey at googlemail.com Mon Dec 28 05:11:10 2009 From: bluehealey at googlemail.com (AlanB) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 12:11:10 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Car Related - Ford Volvo Sale In-Reply-To: <4B3894B8.8060604@chello.nl> References: <4B38769E.9080708@chello.nl> <4B387D1E.3030909@club-internet.fr> <4B3894B8.8060604@chello.nl> Message-ID: <5761765CA5964353BDBCC6AB63D3DCBB@Dell> Hi Team Feeding this off-topic discussion goes against the grain however Kees' comment below drew me out. This is the competition the western world is up against.............. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMOBqRVDOYQ You may already have seen it as went the rounds some time ago. Enjoy and weep. Happy New Year to you all. _____________________________________________ (______________ Alan Bromfield _______________) (______ \____1957-BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Oudesluys Sent: 28 December 2009 11:21 To: Bernard Cristalli Cc: Healey List Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car Related - Ford Volvo Sale Bernard, I think it is time to reconsidder. They have two very big advantages: they are willing to work very, very hard and they learn fast. It will not be long before they surpass the US as the biggest economy in the world. Kees Oudesluijs NL From coudesluijs at chello.nl Mon Dec 28 07:06:41 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:06:41 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Car Related - Ford Volvo Sale In-Reply-To: <5761765CA5964353BDBCC6AB63D3DCBB@Dell> References: <4B38769E.9080708@chello.nl> <4B387D1E.3030909@club-internet.fr> <4B3894B8.8060604@chello.nl> <5761765CA5964353BDBCC6AB63D3DCBB@Dell> Message-ID: <4B38BB71.103@chello.nl> As I said they have no inkling about safety yet. They will soon learn. These situations were also common in the Western world not even that long ago in the 60's and later i.e. when your Healey was build. Kees Oudesluijs NL AlanB schreef: > Hi Team > Feeding this off-topic discussion goes against the grain however Kees' > comment below drew me out. This is the competition the western world is up > against.............. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMOBqRVDOYQ > You may already have seen it as went the rounds some time ago. > Enjoy and weep. > > Happy New Year to you all. > _____________________________________________ > (______________ Alan Bromfield _______________) > (______ \____1957-BN4____/ _______) > (_________________________) > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Oudesluys > Sent: 28 December 2009 11:21 > To: Bernard Cristalli > Cc: Healey List > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car Related - Ford Volvo Sale > > Bernard, > I think it is time to reconsidder. > They have two very big advantages: they are willing to work very, very > hard and they learn fast. It will not be long before they surpass the US > as the biggest economy in the world. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL From eorr at cogeco.ca Mon Dec 28 07:21:35 2009 From: eorr at cogeco.ca (Ed Orr) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:21:35 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Ebay 100-4 Project Car References: <2972F73500DA403BB7C8B368EED22F2D@jackniolfz37if> Message-ID: <9E5BC843D4BB40BEB3BFEEDC1494F77A@HP29887285263> I have a pair of Lucas SLR 700S lights needing rechrome has anyone done this successfully , is it necessary to remove all rivets to do this properly and if so are the rivets available . Ed Orr 65 BJ8 66 BJ8 project From scvc70 at epix.net Mon Dec 28 08:07:57 2009 From: scvc70 at epix.net (Carr&Edwards) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:07:57 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Garage Design References: Message-ID: <6D757F25C93B4121844BCF0FB7D6FFBE@computer624080> Michael -- If you want central air-conditioning, then forced-air heat with a furnace is the way to go. If not, then consider radiant heat in the concrete floor. We put this in our new 24' x 36' garage/shop, using a propane water heater instead of a furnace. Very comfortable even at relatively low air temperature, as your feet--and whatever other parts of you are in contact with the floor!--are warm; we keep it in the low 50s and are happy. We have 2x6 walls and plenty of insulation, and the building maintains its temperature with very little fuel use. Sarah Carr BN1 in PA ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 6:23 PM Subject: [Healeys] Garage Design > Folks-- > > Thanks for all the good advise. It was never my intention to draw this up > on the back of the napkin and build it--both the building and design will > be professionally done. I amm simply fiddling with "pre-plans" to get an > idea of how I might lay the building out and one factor (building/celing > height involved the supporting rafters under the loft. > > I will take the advise of several and plan on more stuff going up in the > loft than I might now think and build it strong. I'm also going to reduce > the building's width by one foot to 24' and so take advantage of > dimensional > lumber and have less waste. > > Thanks again--Michael > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html From healeymnster at gmail.com Mon Dec 28 08:12:35 2009 From: healeymnster at gmail.com (Ed Townley) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 08:12:35 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Garage Design Message-ID: <164073bc0912280712y48711c04r1ad6485349d9b0c9@mail.gmail.com> Michael: now for some far out ideas that I would incorporate if I were building my 30x50 Garage barn again--Amen to the 12' or higher ceiling, also, I would build a loft over 3/4 or more of the floor area, leaving only enough room for the full extension of a 4 post lift. now for the radical part--since the 4 post lift is relatively inexpensive (check northern tool catalogs), i would put another one at one edge of the loft for a cheap elevator that still could be used as a lift if I had the main one occupied by a car. this would give me two lifts for autos when needed, as well as a cheap elevator/dumbwaiter for access to the second floor. Although I don't think I could have afforded the cost of all this at once when I originally built, I wish I had designed it this way, so I could have added the loft and lifts later. Have fun with your design and building- Regards, Ed Townley Southern NM, USA 64 BJ8 59 AN5 60 AN5 RHD 74 Austin Mini From: Awgertoo at aol.com Subject: [Healeys] Garage Design To: healeys at autox.team.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Folks-- Thanks for all the good advise. It was never my intention to draw this up on the back of the napkin and build it--both the building and design will be professionally done. I amm simply fiddling with "pre-plans" to get an idea of how I might lay the building out and one factor (building/celing height involved the supporting rafters under the loft. I will take the advise of several and plan on more stuff going up in the loft than I might now think and build it strong. I'm also going to reduce the building's width by one foot to 24' and so take advantage of dimensional lumber and have less waste. Thanks again--Michael From scvc70 at epix.net Mon Dec 28 08:13:26 2009 From: scvc70 at epix.net (Carr&Edwards) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:13:26 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] seat-back pattern Message-ID: <2FF4A9F87ED9412E83F5CB4A440CFA91@computer624080> As no one offered what we need in response to my first request, let me try one more time -- Does anyone have a bare-metal seat back from a BN1, BN2, or BN6 that they could make a tracing of (last 6" of the "ears" at the bottom, showing pivot-bolt hole) so that we can reconstruct what some DPO hacked off to fit replacement seat covers? Many thanks! Sarah Carr BN1 in PA From britishcars at shaw.ca Mon Dec 28 10:01:55 2009 From: britishcars at shaw.ca (PG) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:01:55 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Front Springs Message-ID: <957A4546AE74440191618A8F881E1B96@PaulPC> RE: Phase 2 '67 BJ8 I have rebuilt my front end with Poly bushes, brass adjustable top trunion bushes (to go negative camber) and 7/8ths front roll bar and tube shock conversion... I am now looking a front springs. My understanding is that the stock BJ8 springs are rated about 400 lbs. I would like to achieve a responsive "fast road" car and am willing to sacrifice some ride for it, but don't want to feel like every pebble on the road. DW and others sell a variety of rated springs (500lbs, 600lbs, 800lbs and 1,000lbs). Also, I was planning on lowering the car by approximately 1" using spacers between the lower wishbones and shock plates. However, I note that shortened springs are also available and am thinking that this might be a better route. I would be interested in feedback, experiences and comments. Thanks Paul From britishcars at shaw.ca Mon Dec 28 10:12:35 2009 From: britishcars at shaw.ca (PG) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:12:35 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Steering Box Message-ID: Ok..some honesty...I'm facing my boogyman! I've been rebuilding motors, transmissions and cars for many years..usually successful (augmented with some very expensive mistakes). Years ago, I rebuilt a '52 Willy's Flatfender Jeep and messed up on the steering box (it actually worked out OK as long as you only wanted to turn left!)..apparently, I've been scarred by the experience and have never approached another one. So, now I'm facing my nemesis..I've got the steering box (and tube) out of the car on my workbench, and it's calling to me (like the grim reaper calls it's next victim). My real concern is alignment and centering after the rebuild. Before I get started on the operation..perhaps some words of wisdom from the list... 1. Suggested replacement parts? 2. Do I simply reuse the existing shims and hope for the best? 3. How do I realign when I'm done; Thanks Paul From eorr at cogeco.ca Mon Dec 28 11:16:07 2009 From: eorr at cogeco.ca (Ed Orr) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 13:16:07 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Chroming Lucas driving lights References: <2972F73500DA403BB7C8B368EED22F2D@jackniolfz37if> <9E5BC843D4BB40BEB3BFEEDC1494F77A@HP29887285263> Message-ID: (previous post I forgot to change the subject) >I have a pair of Lucas SLR 700S lights needing rechrome has anyone done >this successfully , is it necessary to remove all rivets to do this >properly and if so are the rivets available . > > Ed Orr > 65 BJ8 > 66 BJ8 project _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eorr at cogeco.ca > > http://www.team.net/archive -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 3175 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message From coudesluijs at chello.nl Mon Dec 28 12:06:12 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:06:12 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Front Springs In-Reply-To: <957A4546AE74440191618A8F881E1B96@PaulPC> References: <957A4546AE74440191618A8F881E1B96@PaulPC> Message-ID: <4B3901A4.3040900@chello.nl> Leave well alone. You have changed to tube shocks (which ones?) and to a heavier anti-roll bar. Try out this set up first and experiment with the damper settings, starting at a low setting and gradually increasing the resistance. If you are not satisfied you can always change to heavier springs, but before you do it may be wise to add an anti-roll bar on the rear axle or increase the spring rate there. If you do not stiffen up the rear end the car will get very understeered. Do not lower it for street use, it is already low by any standard looking at the damage most original/standard cars have underneath. Kees Oudesluijs NL PG schreef: > RE: Phase 2 '67 BJ8 > > > > I have rebuilt my front end with Poly bushes, brass adjustable top trunion > bushes (to go negative camber) and 7/8ths front roll bar and tube shock > conversion... I am now looking a front springs. > > > > My understanding is that the stock BJ8 springs are rated about 400 lbs. I > would like to achieve a responsive "fast road" car and am willing to > sacrifice some ride for it, but don't want to feel like every pebble on the > road. > > > > DW and others sell a variety of rated springs (500lbs, 600lbs, 800lbs and > 1,000lbs). > > > > Also, I was planning on lowering the car by approximately 1" using spacers > between the lower wishbones and shock plates. However, I note that > shortened springs are also available and am thinking that this might be a > better route. > > > > I would be interested in feedback, experiences and comments. > > > > Thanks > > Paul > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 9.0.722 / Virusdatabase: 270.14.122/2590 - datum van uitgifte: 12/28/09 08:16:00 From coudesluijs at chello.nl Mon Dec 28 12:13:31 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:13:31 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Steering Box In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B39035B.7030300@chello.nl> What is wrong with the steering box? If it ain't broke don't fix it. Get a proper WSM that describes the procedure if there is excessive play, more than 1" at the steering wheel rim. If you are not at ease doing the job have it done by the professionals. They have the needed parts at hand. Kees Oudesluijs NL PG schreef: > Ok..some honesty...I'm facing my boogyman! > > > > I've been rebuilding motors, transmissions and cars for many years..usually > successful (augmented with some very expensive mistakes). > > > > Years ago, I rebuilt a '52 Willy's Flatfender Jeep and messed up on the > steering box (it actually worked out OK as long as you only wanted to turn > left!)..apparently, I've been scarred by the experience and have never > approached another one. > > > > So, now I'm facing my nemesis..I've got the steering box (and tube) out of > the car on my workbench, and it's calling to me (like the grim reaper calls > it's next victim). > > > > My real concern is alignment and centering after the rebuild. > > > > Before I get started on the operation..perhaps some words of wisdom from the > list... > > 1. Suggested replacement parts? > 2. Do I simply reuse the existing shims and hope for the best? > 3. How do I realign when I'm done; > > > > > > Thanks > > Paul > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 9.0.722 / Virusdatabase: 270.14.122/2590 - datum van uitgifte: 12/28/09 08:16:00 From mandmschneider at comcast.net Mon Dec 28 12:42:02 2009 From: mandmschneider at comcast.net (Mark Schneider) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:42:02 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Dowel Bolts Message-ID: <711065BF-C3E0-4D15-9BEE-5AFDB059E225@comcast.net> Listers, Happy New year and great Healeying to all. I have a question about the "dowel bolts" connecting the clutch housing to the rear engine plate. This pertains to a BJ8 center shift gearbox/overdrive. Looking at the clutch housing from the driver's position the shop manual and Moss catalogue show one dowel bolt applied at the 11:00 o,clock position. What is the correct position for the second dowel bolt? Marks 3 '66 BJ8 From britishcars at shaw.ca Mon Dec 28 12:43:32 2009 From: britishcars at shaw.ca (PG) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:43:32 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Steering Box In-Reply-To: <4B39035B.7030300@chello.nl> References: <4B39035B.7030300@chello.nl> Message-ID: <2BC0168710FA439A9C7D886746516266@PaulPC> Leaks badly...have tried all the home remedies...grease, thicker oil etc etc. Time to replace the gaskets. paul -----Original Message----- From: Oudesluys [mailto:coudesluijs at chello.nl] Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 11:14 AM To: PG Cc: 'healey' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering Box What is wrong with the steering box? If it ain't broke don't fix it. Get a proper WSM that describes the procedure if there is excessive play, more than 1" at the steering wheel rim. If you are not at ease doing the job have it done by the professionals. They have the needed parts at hand. Kees Oudesluijs NL PG schreef: > Ok..some honesty...I'm facing my boogyman! > > > > I've been rebuilding motors, transmissions and cars for many years..usually > successful (augmented with some very expensive mistakes). > > > > Years ago, I rebuilt a '52 Willy's Flatfender Jeep and messed up on the > steering box (it actually worked out OK as long as you only wanted to turn > left!)..apparently, I've been scarred by the experience and have never > approached another one. > > > > So, now I'm facing my nemesis..I've got the steering box (and tube) out of > the car on my workbench, and it's calling to me (like the grim reaper calls > it's next victim). > > > > My real concern is alignment and centering after the rebuild. > > > > Before I get started on the operation..perhaps some words of wisdom from the > list... > > 1. Suggested replacement parts? > 2. Do I simply reuse the existing shims and hope for the best? > 3. How do I realign when I'm done; > > > > > > Thanks > > Paul > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 9.0.722 / Virusdatabase: 270.14.122/2590 - datum van uitgifte: 12/28/09 08:16:00 From britishcars at shaw.ca Mon Dec 28 12:45:32 2009 From: britishcars at shaw.ca (PG) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:45:32 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Front Springs In-Reply-To: <4B3901A4.3040900@chello.nl> References: <957A4546AE74440191618A8F881E1B96@PaulPC> <4B3901A4.3040900@chello.nl> Message-ID: Good advice.. I have a DW rear Anti-sway bar that I have not yet installed. With respect to lowering, I always thought that the phase 2BJ8's sat a little high...particularly in the rear. Thought I would experiment. Paul -----Original Message----- From: Oudesluys [mailto:coudesluijs at chello.nl] Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 11:06 AM To: PG Cc: 'healey' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Front Springs Leave well alone. You have changed to tube shocks (which ones?) and to a heavier anti-roll bar. Try out this set up first and experiment with the damper settings, starting at a low setting and gradually increasing the resistance. If you are not satisfied you can always change to heavier springs, but before you do it may be wise to add an anti-roll bar on the rear axle or increase the spring rate there. If you do not stiffen up the rear end the car will get very understeered. Do not lower it for street use, it is already low by any standard looking at the damage most original/standard cars have underneath. Kees Oudesluijs NL PG schreef: > RE: Phase 2 '67 BJ8 > > > > I have rebuilt my front end with Poly bushes, brass adjustable top trunion > bushes (to go negative camber) and 7/8ths front roll bar and tube shock > conversion... I am now looking a front springs. > > > > My understanding is that the stock BJ8 springs are rated about 400 lbs. I > would like to achieve a responsive "fast road" car and am willing to > sacrifice some ride for it, but don't want to feel like every pebble on the > road. > > > > DW and others sell a variety of rated springs (500lbs, 600lbs, 800lbs and > 1,000lbs). > > > > Also, I was planning on lowering the car by approximately 1" using spacers > between the lower wishbones and shock plates. However, I note that > shortened springs are also available and am thinking that this might be a > better route. > > > > I would be interested in feedback, experiences and comments. > > > > Thanks > > Paul > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 9.0.722 / Virusdatabase: 270.14.122/2590 - datum van uitgifte: 12/28/09 08:16:00 From coudesluijs at chello.nl Mon Dec 28 14:00:52 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:00:52 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Steering Box In-Reply-To: <2BC0168710FA439A9C7D886746516266@PaulPC> References: <4B39035B.7030300@chello.nl> <2BC0168710FA439A9C7D886746516266@PaulPC> Message-ID: <4B391C84.6000704@chello.nl> If it just leaks and there is no play, just take it apart carefully, noting all the parts and the place where they belong, renew gaskets and seals and put together again the same way it was, and all should be well. Take numerous pictures, sketches etc. when you dismantle. Watch out for loaded springs (if present) that may jump away. However it may be better to have it rebuilt professionally. Kees Oudesluijs NL PG schreef: > Leaks badly...have tried all the home remedies...grease, thicker oil etc > etc. > > Time to replace the gaskets. > > paul From qualitas.jack at gmail.com Mon Dec 28 14:11:43 2009 From: qualitas.jack at gmail.com (Jack Feldman) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:11:43 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Start of the Japanese Auto Industry Message-ID: <48720d20912281311g7fb72625qa1ae1276d32cb515@mail.gmail.com> The statement "Don't forget it was the Japanese that borrowed the Brit's technology in the 60's.... and through reverse engineering ... All things are possible..." isn't exactly correct. Not much reverse engineering was necessary. Austin Motors helped the start of the Japanese industry. My very first car was and Austin A40 Somerset. I loved the car, and sold it when I returned to the US. I have a couple of books about Austin, and the books are clear that Austin shared technology with the Japanese. Who would have thought they would be a threat. Jack From cnaarndt at gmail.com Mon Dec 28 14:32:16 2009 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 13:32:16 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Dowel Bolts In-Reply-To: <711065BF-C3E0-4D15-9BEE-5AFDB059E225@comcast.net> References: <711065BF-C3E0-4D15-9BEE-5AFDB059E225@comcast.net> Message-ID: <751d05480912281332k70d78be6ned9f2c744a6ab569@mail.gmail.com> Mark, >From the Concours Guidelines: 6-cylinder cars The Dowel Bolts go in the "11:00" and "5:30" holes, top left and bottom right. Cheers, Curt On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Mark Schneider wrote: > Listers, > > Happy New year and great Healeying to all. > > I have a question about the "dowel bolts" connecting the clutch housing to > the rear engine plate. This pertains to a BJ8 center shift > gearbox/overdrive. Looking at the clutch housing from the driver's position > the shop manual and Moss catalogue show one dowel bolt applied at the 11:00 > o,clock position. What is the correct position for the second dowel bolt? > > Marks 3 > '66 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as cnaarndt at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From coudesluijs at chello.nl Mon Dec 28 14:43:40 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:43:40 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Front Springs In-Reply-To: References: <957A4546AE74440191618A8F881E1B96@PaulPC> <4B3901A4.3040900@chello.nl> Message-ID: <4B39268C.3080004@chello.nl> It is a bit higher than the early ones, and for a reason, but still very low compared with other street going cars. There is very little clearance and it nearly always looks a mess underneath. The planned negative camber may lower the front slightly. Experiment bit by bit, do not change all parts at once and see what happens as you will not be able to feel which change made an improvement for you and which did not. One should not forget that stiffening the suspension also puts heavier loads on the suspension parts, chassis, body and driver. This may lead to unforseen fractures and extra wear, especially on an old car driven in anger. Cheers, Kees Oudesluijs NL PG schreef: > Good advice.. > > I have a DW rear Anti-sway bar that I have not yet installed. > > With respect to lowering, I always thought that the phase 2BJ8's sat a > little high...particularly in the rear. Thought I would experiment. > > Paul From ynotink at msn.com Mon Dec 28 14:54:25 2009 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 21:54:25 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Start of the Japanese Auto Industry In-Reply-To: <48720d20912281311g7fb72625qa1ae1276d32cb515@mail.gmail.com> References: <48720d20912281311g7fb72625qa1ae1276d32cb515@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: There is a story, possibly apocryphal, that there were three Austin Healeys in Japan prior to the introduction of the Datsun 240Z. All were owned by Datsun... You can snopes it and maybe disprove it, but I still like it. Bill Lawrence > Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:11:43 -0600 > From: qualitas.jack at gmail.com > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] Start of the Japanese Auto Industry > > The statement "Don't forget it was the Japanese that borrowed the Brit's > technology in the > 60's.... and through reverse engineering ... All things are possible..." > isn't exactly correct. Not much reverse engineering was necessary. Austin > Motors helped the start of the Japanese industry. > > My very first car was and Austin A40 Somerset. I loved the car, and sold it > when I returned to the US. I have a couple of books about Austin, and the > books are clear that Austin shared technology with the Japanese. > > Who would have thought they would be a threat. > > Jack > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as ynotink at msn.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From Editorgary at aol.com Mon Dec 28 15:05:52 2009 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:05:52 EST Subject: [Healeys] More garage ideas Message-ID: In a message dated 12/28/09 11:59:38 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > now for the > radical part--since the 4 post lift is relatively inexpensive (check > northern tool catalogs), i would put another one at one edge of the > loft for a cheap elevator that still could be used as a lift if I had > the main one occupied by a car. > There will be many reasons to consider a four-post lift (which is primarily useful for storage of one car over another) relative to a two-poster (allows you to do full servicing underneath, change the wheels, remove springs and suspension, etc.) but this is one of the best ideas I've heard yet. A high-roofed building that allows full lift of a four-post lift going up into the space left by not extending the second floor over all bays of the garage, is a great idea. Then the loft can be used for storing large items (hardtop, shrouds, etc. out of the way, and storing/accessing them by using the lift. Definitely, but definitely include a small shower/toilet/washroom in the garage for the many, many times you will want to clean up before going in the house. Put a separate deep laundry room sink in the garage area, preferably in a non-white material that can stand up to industrial-strength cleaning materials. Plan from the beginning to put an industrial-strength coating on the floor. When we toured Canepa Design here, we learned that they put down a five-coat epoxy paint system on their floors, well beyond anything you can buy out of the catalogs or in the Home Depot. We'll be looking for an article for the magazines on the design of this garage. You might do one in advance, with all the specs, and ideas, you're going to build in the garage, or have considered, and then one later when the garage is all finished. Good luck, Gary From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Mon Dec 28 16:23:33 2009 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 10:23:33 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Start of the Japanese Auto Industry In-Reply-To: References: <48720d20912281311g7fb72625qa1ae1276d32cb515@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: G'day All If you have a few minutes to spare you might like to have a look at an article I prepared some years back. It's at: http://www.acmefluid.com.au/larry/austinnissan.html Actually it was two 3000s and not 3. Whether they used them for study I am not sure, but given the Nissan (Datsun) connection beforehand I wouldn't be surprised. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WILLIAM B LAWRENCE Sent: Tuesday, 29 December 2009 8:54 AM To: qualitas.jack at gmail.com; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Start of the Japanese Auto Industry There is a story, possibly apocryphal, that there were three Austin Healeys in Japan prior to the introduction of the Datsun 240Z. All were owned by Datsun... You can snopes it and maybe disprove it, but I still like it. Bill Lawrence > Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:11:43 -0600 > From: qualitas.jack at gmail.com > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] Start of the Japanese Auto Industry > > The statement "Don't forget it was the Japanese that borrowed the Brit's > technology in the > 60's.... and through reverse engineering ... All things are possible..." > isn't exactly correct. Not much reverse engineering was necessary. Austin > Motors helped the start of the Japanese industry. > > My very first car was and Austin A40 Somerset. I loved the car, and sold it > when I returned to the US. I have a couple of books about Austin, and the > books are clear that Austin shared technology with the Japanese. > > Who would have thought they would be a threat. > > Jack From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Dec 28 16:34:01 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:34:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Start of the Japanese Auto Industry In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1013279932.3463081262043241824.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Read an article a while back--in Auto Restorer, I think--about the Z. IIRC, the chassis was based on a Triumph design (think the Z has IRS). The carburettors were SU copies made under license by Hitachi. bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA There is a story, possibly apocryphal, that there were three Austin Healeys in Japan prior to the introduction of the Datsun 240Z. All were owned by Datsun... You can snopes it and maybe disprove it, but I still like it. Bill Lawrence From rchaskell at earthlink.net Mon Dec 28 17:09:03 2009 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:09:03 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Steering Box In-Reply-To: <2BC0168710FA439A9C7D886746516266@PaulPC> References: <4B39035B.7030300@chello.nl> <2BC0168710FA439A9C7D886746516266@PaulPC> Message-ID: <4B39489F.60301@earthlink.net> Consider installing two rocker shaft seals. Should be room. PG wrote: > Leaks badly...have tried all the home remedies...grease, thicker oil etc > etc. > > Time to replace the gaskets. > > paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: Oudesluys [mailto:coudesluijs at chello.nl] > Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 11:14 AM > To: PG > Cc: 'healey' > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering Box > > What is wrong with the steering box? If it ain't broke don't fix it. > Get a proper WSM that describes the procedure if there is excessive > play, more than 1" at the steering wheel rim. If you are not at ease > doing the job have it done by the professionals. They have the needed > parts at hand. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL > > > PG schreef: >> Ok..some honesty...I'm facing my boogyman! >> >> >> >> I've been rebuilding motors, transmissions and cars for many > years..usually >> successful (augmented with some very expensive mistakes). >> >> >> >> Years ago, I rebuilt a '52 Willy's Flatfender Jeep and messed up on the >> steering box (it actually worked out OK as long as you only wanted to turn >> left!)..apparently, I've been scarred by the experience and have never >> approached another one. >> >> >> >> So, now I'm facing my nemesis..I've got the steering box (and tube) out of >> the car on my workbench, and it's calling to me (like the grim reaper > calls >> it's next victim). >> >> >> >> My real concern is alignment and centering after the rebuild. >> >> >> >> Before I get started on the operation..perhaps some words of wisdom from > the >> list... >> >> 1. Suggested replacement parts? >> 2. Do I simply reuse the existing shims and hope for the best? >> 3. How do I realign when I'm done; >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> Paul >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. >> Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com >> Versie: 9.0.722 / Virusdatabase: 270.14.122/2590 - datum van uitgifte: > 12/28/09 08:16:00 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as rchaskell at earthlink.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From Editorgary at aol.com Mon Dec 28 17:40:06 2009 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:40:06 EST Subject: [Healeys] Healeys to Japan Message-ID: In a message dated 12/28/09 4:27:47 PM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > Actually it was two 3000s and not 3. Whether they used them for study I > am > not sure, but given the Nissan (Datsun) connection beforehand I wouldn't > be > surprised. > Can't remember where I heard the story, but my understanding was that there were two prototype Healey coupes built from BJ8s, and after the whole Healey relationship fell apart and British Leyland discontinued production of the big Healeys, these two coupes were sold to Nissan/Datsun. Pictures in the standard Healey books of these cars do look a lot like the 240Z. It is quite true that a 240Z six-cylinder engine can be installed in a Healey 3000 without changing any of the engine mounts or clearances, which many people say points to Nissan's reliance on the Healey engine for design of the 240Z engine. Cheers gary From pyoas at yahoo.com Mon Dec 28 18:35:16 2009 From: pyoas at yahoo.com (Patrick Yoas) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:35:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Start of the Japanese Auto Industry Message-ID: <71390.56649.qm@web112514.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Patrick, The story I got back in '71 was that it was a Heale and an XKE coupe that reproduced the 240Z. There was another story that it was 2 Healey's but still a XKE Jag coupe. The Japanesse were very well known for copying technologies and design from other companies and our politicians were powerless/helpless to stop them thanks to Lobbyests. Patrick BJ8 (since '72) From: "Patrick and Caroline Quinn" Subject: Re: [Healeys] Start of the Japanese Auto Industry To: "'WILLIAM B LAWRENCE'" , , Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" G'day All If you have a few minutes to spare you might like to have a look at an article I prepared some years back. It's at: http://www.acmefluid.com.au/larry/austinnissan.html Actually it was two 3000s and not 3. Whether they used them for study I am not sure, but given the Nissan (Datsun) connection beforehand I wouldn't be surprised. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia From glemon at neb.rr.com Mon Dec 28 18:42:52 2009 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:42:52 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Front Springs In-Reply-To: <957A4546AE74440191618A8F881E1B96@PaulPC> References: <957A4546AE74440191618A8F881E1B96@PaulPC> Message-ID: <5005CC69734B4837BBF6BD4954C4D253@GregPC> Paul, I lowered my 100 front end by using spacers between the lower a arm and spring plates and drove it that way for years with no noticeable ill effects. In fact the car did quite well at the local autocrosses, beating the TR6s and such. I lowered the front because the rears had settled a bit and I am gusessing it had the later 6 cylinder front springs from a disc brake conversion. I will add that the oil pan was quite beat up, but most if not all of that damage occured prior to my ownership. Greg Lemon From healeyrick at yahoo.com Mon Dec 28 19:34:23 2009 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:34:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Start of the Japanese Auto Industry In-Reply-To: <71390.56649.qm@web112514.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <715873.94281.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I remember when the Miata was introduced, Mazda advertised they had recorded sounds of British sports cars to get the exhaust note sound right: http://www.canadiandriver.com/2005/10/11/feature-mazdas-little-miata-finds-it s-place-in-history.htm Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Mon, 12/28/09, Patrick Yoas wrote: From: Patrick Yoas Subject: [Healeys] Start of the Japanese Auto Industry To: "Healey Forum" Date: Monday, December 28, 2009, 8:35 PM Patrick, The story I got back in '71 was that it was a Heale and an XKE coupe that reproduced the 240Z. There was another story that it was 2 Healey's but still a XKE Jag coupe. The Japanesse were very well known for copying technologies and design from other companies and our politicians were powerless/helpless to stop them thanks to Lobbyests. Patrick BJ8 (since '72) From: "Patrick and Caroline Quinn" Subject: Re: [Healeys] Start of the Japanese Auto Industry To: "'WILLIAM B LAWRENCE'" , , Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" G'day All If you have a few minutes to spare you might like to have a look at an article I prepared some years back. It's at: http://www.acmefluid.com.au/larry/austinnissan.html Actually it was two 3000s and not 3. Whether they used them for study I am not sure, but given the Nissan (Datsun) connection beforehand I wouldn't be surprised. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive From deemi at juno.com Mon Dec 28 20:16:35 2009 From: deemi at juno.com (deemi at juno.com) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:16:35 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] found in a book on healeys /Start of the Japanese Auto Industry Message-ID: <20091228.221635.2068.0.deemi@juno.com> I found it in Healey, the Handsome Brute, page 228-231 talks of the two big healeys owned by nissan, and the direction this took them in making the 240 Z did you also ever notice the symbol on the big healey horn button and that on the side of a z car? Bob Bowie in Maine ____________________________________________________________ Love Spell Click here to light up your life with a love spell! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=1ehL4JNlt1SCMkafPp0r3AAAJ1B-9ttc3k1I_21D8YCzT29EAAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARwAAAAA= From mayorrichard at hotmail.com Mon Dec 28 20:44:12 2009 From: mayorrichard at hotmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 03:44:12 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Rear Hub Issue In-Reply-To: <2C93233C5F9C40D68D86250E6D66C111@655vb01> References: <2C93233C5F9C40D68D86250E6D66C111@655vb01> Message-ID: The bearing spacer must stand proud a few thousands in order for the axle flange to pinch the outer race of hub bearing and hold it tight. Otherwise the outer race of the bearing will begin to turn and eventually hog out the hole and ruin the hub. You must make the measurement with the paper gasket in place but NOT with the o-ring in place. After assembly, with the o-ring in place, things should seal up just fine when things are nipped up. Maybe a gasket is not even needed, but why take a chance? Richard Mayor > From: eschulz at frontiernet.net > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 09:59:00 -0500 > Subject: [Healeys] Rear Hub Issue > > Fellow Listers, > In replacing the bearings in the rear hubs, the workshop manual states that > "the outer face of the bearing spacer should protrude from .001" to .004" > beyond the outer face of the hub AND THE PAPER WASHER when the bearing is > pressed into position." This doesn't seem to make sense to me because then the > paper washer could not be compressed by the axle flange to provide a seal. > What am I missing? > Your help is appreciated. > Elton > BJ7 in progress > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as mayorrichard at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Mon Dec 28 20:48:39 2009 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:48:39 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Steering Box References: Message-ID: <001201ca8839$ceedba00$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Get your digital camera and take pictures in sequence as you remove the various parts. Using the Haynes and the Bentley workshop manual with your pictures you can't go wrong. Maybe you just need to install a new ferule and end gasket. STP works well as a stop leak fluid. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "PG" To: "'healey'" Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 12:12 PM Subject: [Healeys] Steering Box > Ok..some honesty...I'm facing my boogyman! > > > > I've been rebuilding motors, transmissions and cars for many > years..usually > successful (augmented with some very expensive mistakes). > > > > Years ago, I rebuilt a '52 Willy's Flatfender Jeep and messed up on the > steering box (it actually worked out OK as long as you only wanted to turn > left!)..apparently, I've been scarred by the experience and have never > approached another one. > > > > So, now I'm facing my nemesis..I've got the steering box (and tube) out of > the car on my workbench, and it's calling to me (like the grim reaper > calls > it's next victim). > > > > My real concern is alignment and centering after the rebuild. > > > > Before I get started on the operation..perhaps some words of wisdom from > the > list... > > 1. Suggested replacement parts? > 2. Do I simply reuse the existing shims and hope for the best? > 3. How do I realign when I'm done; > > > > > > Thanks > > Paul > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as lapierrem at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From healey.nut at gmail.com Mon Dec 28 20:48:59 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:48:59 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Healeys to Japan In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The 240 motor may fit in the Healey bay, but it is a smaller more compact motor for sure, not the same. The Datsun 1500/1600 is the one that's a direct drop in for the MGA/MGB motor. On 12/29/09, Editorgary at aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 12/28/09 4:27:47 PM, healeys-request at autox.team.net > writes: > > >> Actually it was two 3000s and not 3. Whether they used them for study I >> am >> not sure, but given the Nissan (Datsun) connection beforehand I wouldn't >> be >> surprised. >> > Can't remember where I heard the story, but my understanding was that there > were two prototype Healey coupes built from BJ8s, and after the whole > Healey relationship fell apart and British Leyland discontinued production > of the > big Healeys, these two coupes were sold to Nissan/Datsun. Pictures in the > standard Healey books of these cars do look a lot like the 240Z. It is quite > true that a 240Z six-cylinder engine can be installed in a Healey 3000 > without changing any of the engine mounts or clearances, which many people > say > points to Nissan's reliance on the Healey engine for design of the 240Z > engine. > Cheers > gary > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Sent from my mobile device Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 From richard.ewald at gmail.com Mon Dec 28 21:26:18 2009 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:26:18 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Start of the Japanese Auto Industry In-Reply-To: <715873.94281.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <71390.56649.qm@web112514.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <715873.94281.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I knew Bob Hall and his brother Jim back when they were first out of high school. The article is correct about him liking British cars. In the group of guys that hung together there was at various times 100-4, 100-6, Spitfire, Sprite/Midgets, MGB, P1800 You get the idea. He used the Lotus Elan as a design inspiration for the Miata. On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 6:34 PM, HealeyRick wrote: > I remember when the Miata was introduced, Mazda advertised they had > recorded > sounds of British sports cars to get the exhaust note sound right: > > http://www.canadiandriver.com/2005/10/11/feature-mazdas-little-miata-finds-it > s-place-in-history.htm > > Rick > > > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > > --- On Mon, 12/28/09, Patrick Yoas wrote: > > From: Patrick Yoas > Subject: [Healeys] Start of the Japanese Auto Industry > To: "Healey Forum" > Date: Monday, December 28, 2009, 8:35 PM > > Patrick, > The story I got back in '71 was that it was a Heale and an XKE coupe that > reproduced the 240Z. There was another story that it was 2 Healey's but > still > a XKE Jag coupe. > The Japanesse were very well known for copying technologies and design from > other companies and our politicians were powerless/helpless to stop them > thanks to Lobbyests. > Patrick > BJ8 (since '72) > > From: "Patrick and Caroline Quinn" > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Start of the Japanese Auto Industry > To: "'WILLIAM B LAWRENCE'" , > , > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > G'day All > > If you have a few minutes to spare you might like to have a look at an > article I prepared some years back. It's at: > > http://www.acmefluid.com.au/larry/austinnissan.html > > Actually it was two 3000s and not 3. Whether they used them for study I am > not sure, but given the Nissan (Datsun) connection beforehand I wouldn't be > surprised. > > Hoo Roo > > Patrick Quinn > Sydney, Australia > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richard.ewald at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From Editorgary at aol.com Tue Dec 29 00:17:56 2009 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 02:17:56 EST Subject: [Healeys] Healeys to Japan Message-ID: In a message dated 12/28/09 7:48:59 PM, healey.nut at gmail.com writes: > The 240 motor may fit in the Healey bay, but it is a smaller more > compact motor for sure, not the same. > The one that I saw, with the six-cylinder Nissan motor in the Healey, didn't look as if it was much smaller since it filled the engine bay just about as completely, with the engine mounts in exactly the same place. All I know is what I saw, and reports I've heard of other swaps. gary From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Dec 29 02:01:57 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 10:01:57 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Start of the Japanese Auto Industry In-Reply-To: <48720d20912281311g7fb72625qa1ae1276d32cb515@mail.gmail.com> References: <48720d20912281311g7fb72625qa1ae1276d32cb515@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B39C585.5010009@chello.nl> Datsun/Nissan started with the assembly of CKD kits from Austin, not the most advanced automotive design at the time. When they started to build cars on their own accord they were technically very similar to the Austin products. I believe that engines and gearboxes from both makes were interchangable in the beginning. However Toyota produced cars of their own design in the thirties and there were others. Do not forget that there were considerable engineering skils well before the war. They produced some very advanced and feared warplanes and such. Kees Oudesluijs NL Jack Feldman schreef: > The statement "Don't forget it was the Japanese that borrowed the Brit's > technology in the > 60's.... and through reverse engineering ... All things are possible..." > isn't exactly correct. Not much reverse engineering was necessary. Austin > Motors helped the start of the Japanese industry. > > My very first car was and Austin A40 Somerset. I loved the car, and sold it > when I returned to the US. I have a couple of books about Austin, and the > books are clear that Austin shared technology with the Japanese. > > Who would have thought they would be a threat. > > Jack > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 9.0.722 / Virusdatabase: 270.14.122/2590 - datum van uitgifte: 12/28/09 08:16:00 From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Dec 29 02:35:15 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 10:35:15 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Start of the Japanese Auto Industry In-Reply-To: References: <48720d20912281311g7fb72625qa1ae1276d32cb515@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B39CD53.2070003@chello.nl> Patrick, A very interresting article which enlarged my very limited knowlegde of the early Japanese cars considerably. Thanks. Kees Oudesluijs NL Patrick and Caroline Quinn schreef: > G'day All > > If you have a few minutes to spare you might like to have a look at an > article I prepared some years back. It's at: > > http://www.acmefluid.com.au/larry/austinnissan.html > > Actually it was two 3000s and not 3. Whether they used them for study I am > not sure, but given the Nissan (Datsun) connection beforehand I wouldn't be > surprised. > > Hoo Roo > > Patrick Quinn > Sydney, Australia > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of WILLIAM B LAWRENCE > Sent: Tuesday, 29 December 2009 8:54 AM > To: qualitas.jack at gmail.com; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Start of the Japanese Auto Industry > > There is a story, possibly apocryphal, that there were three Austin Healeys > in > Japan prior to the introduction of the Datsun 240Z. All were owned by > Datsun... You can snopes it and maybe disprove it, but I still like it. > Bill Lawrence > > >> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:11:43 -0600 >> From: qualitas.jack at gmail.com >> To: healeys at autox.team.net >> Subject: [Healeys] Start of the Japanese Auto Industry >> >> The statement "Don't forget it was the Japanese that borrowed the Brit's >> technology in the >> 60's.... and through reverse engineering ... All things are possible..." >> isn't exactly correct. Not much reverse engineering was necessary. Austin >> Motors helped the start of the Japanese industry. >> >> My very first car was and Austin A40 Somerset. I loved the car, and sold >> > it > >> when I returned to the US. I have a couple of books about Austin, and the >> books are clear that Austin shared technology with the Japanese. >> >> Who would have thought they would be a threat. >> >> Jack >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 9.0.722 / Virusdatabase: 270.14.122/2590 - datum van uitgifte: 12/28/09 08:16:00 From eyera3 at gmail.com Tue Dec 29 05:22:44 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:22:44 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Healeys to Japan In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <867C66FB-1885-45E4-8B6B-BACA4ED57B1A@gmail.com> Richard Mayor had a Z engine in one of his healeys. Richard chime in on the details I Erbs Sent from my iPod On Dec 29, 2009, at 9:17 AM, Editorgary at aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 12/28/09 7:48:59 PM, healey.nut at gmail.com writes: > > >> The 240 motor may fit in the Healey bay, but it is a smaller more >> compact motor for sure, not the same. >> > > The one that I saw, with the six-cylinder Nissan motor in the Healey, > didn't look as if it was much smaller since it filled the engine bay > just about > as completely, with the engine mounts in exactly the same place. All > I know > is what I saw, and reports I've heard of other swaps. > gary > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From sbyers at ec.rr.com Tue Dec 29 05:56:19 2009 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 07:56:19 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Start of the Japanese Auto Industry In-Reply-To: References: <48720d20912281311g7fb72625qa1ae1276d32cb515@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000d01ca8886$513d0870$f3b71950$@rr.com> HBJ8L/41737 was owned in Japan prior to 22 January 1969 by someone who was a civilian employee of the U.S. Army, and HBJ8/42183 was dispatched from the factory to Japan on 17 August 1967, so there were at least two BJ8s in Japan prior to the introduction of the Fairlady (240Z) in 1969. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WILLIAM B LAWRENCE Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 4:54 PM To: qualitas.jack at gmail.com; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Start of the Japanese Auto Industry There is a story, possibly apocryphal, that there were three Austin Healeys in Japan prior to the introduction of the Datsun 240Z. All were owned by Datsun... You can snopes it and maybe disprove it, but I still like it. Bill Lawrence From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Dec 29 06:40:40 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 21:40:40 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Start of the Japanese Auto Industry In-Reply-To: <4B39C585.5010009@chello.nl> References: <48720d20912281311g7fb72625qa1ae1276d32cb515@mail.gmail.com> <4B39C585.5010009@chello.nl> Message-ID: Yes true about their figher planes being well designed but the engines were made under license from Pratt & Whitney so Pearl Harbor was bombed with warplanes powered by US war technology. Later in the war they were using German engine technology (inverted BMW motors), they never successfully made use of their own true homegrown design of powering their aircraft. I think even the Ohka manned missle used german rocket technology. On 12/29/09, Oudesluys wrote: > Datsun/Nissan started with the assembly of CKD kits from Austin, not the > most advanced automotive design at the time. When they started to build > cars on their own accord they were technically very similar to the > Austin products. I believe that engines and gearboxes from both makes > were interchangable in the beginning. > However Toyota produced cars of their own design in the thirties and > there were others. > Do not forget that there were considerable engineering skils well before > the war. They produced some very advanced and feared warplanes and such. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL > > > Jack Feldman schreef: >> The statement "Don't forget it was the Japanese that borrowed the Brit's >> technology in the >> 60's.... and through reverse engineering ... All things are possible..." >> isn't exactly correct. Not much reverse engineering was necessary. Austin >> Motors helped the start of the Japanese industry. >> >> My very first car was and Austin A40 Somerset. I loved the car, and sold >> it >> when I returned to the US. I have a couple of books about Austin, and the >> books are clear that Austin shared technology with the Japanese. >> >> Who would have thought they would be a threat. >> >> Jack >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. >> Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com >> Versie: 9.0.722 / Virusdatabase: 270.14.122/2590 - datum van uitgifte: >> 12/28/09 08:16:00 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Sent from my mobile device Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 From scvc70 at epix.net Tue Dec 29 07:05:56 2009 From: scvc70 at epix.net (Carr&Edwards) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 09:05:56 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Start of the Japanese Auto Industry References: <71390.56649.qm@web112514.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><715873.94281.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Back in the early '90s, I was baffled one day when I opened my latest Safety Fast! (MG Car Club) magazine and saw a picture of a Miata in the Table of Contents. Turns out one of the Miata's Japanese designers owned a TC--and therefore understood what a true sports car was like.... Sarah Carr BN1 in PA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Ewald" To: "HealeyRick" Cc: "Patrick Yoas" ; "Healey Forum" Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 11:26 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Start of the Japanese Auto Industry >I knew Bob Hall and his brother Jim back when they were first out of high > school. The article is correct about him liking British cars. In the > group > of guys that hung together there was at various times 100-4, 100-6, > Spitfire, Sprite/Midgets, MGB, P1800 You get the idea. He used the Lotus > Elan as a design inspiration for the Miata. From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Dec 29 08:58:43 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:58:43 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Start of the Japanese Auto Industry In-Reply-To: References: <71390.56649.qm@web112514.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><715873.94281.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4B3A2733.5060303@chello.nl> They already knew: Honda S500-S800 Kees Oudesluijs NL > > > Turns out one of the Miata's Japanese designers owned a TC--and > therefore understood what a true sports car was like.... > > > Sarah Carr > BN1 in PA From hgmiller3 at qwest.net Tue Dec 29 10:14:28 2009 From: hgmiller3 at qwest.net (Herbert Miller) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:14:28 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Start of the Japanese Auto Industry In-Reply-To: <4B3A2733.5060303@chello.nl> References: <71390.56649.qm@web112514.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><715873.94281.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4B3A2733.5060303@chello.nl> Message-ID: <029c01ca88aa$62cc8970$28659c50$@net> And let's not forget the Toyota 2000 GT. A little gem, and prior to the 240Z. Herb Miller -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Oudesluys Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 9:59 AM To: Carr&Edwards Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Start of the Japanese Auto Industry They already knew: Honda S500-S800 Kees Oudesluijs NL > > > Turns out one of the Miata's Japanese designers owned a TC--and > therefore understood what a true sports car was like.... > > > Sarah Carr > BN1 in PA Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as hgmiller3 at qwest.net http://www.team.net/archive No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.722 / Virus Database: 270.14.119/2585 - Release Date: 12/29/09 01:47:00 From jtrifari at comcast.net Tue Dec 29 10:53:36 2009 From: jtrifari at comcast.net (John Trifari) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 09:53:36 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Healeys to Japan In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000c01ca88af$d91421b0$8b3c6510$@net> Check out Mark Lambert in Nashville TN. He made the switch some years back in his BN7; article appeared in Austin Healey Magazine in 1996 I think. John Trifari Golden Gate Austin Healey Club -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Editorgary at aol.com Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 11:18 PM To: healey.nut at gmail.com; Editorgary at aol.com; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healeys to Japan In a message dated 12/28/09 7:48:59 PM, healey.nut at gmail.com writes: > The 240 motor may fit in the Healey bay, but it is a smaller more > compact motor for sure, not the same. > The one that I saw, with the six-cylinder Nissan motor in the Healey, didn't look as if it was much smaller since it filled the engine bay just about as completely, with the engine mounts in exactly the same place. All I know is what I saw, and reports I've heard of other swaps. gary Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as jtrifari at comcast.net http://www.team.net/archive From healeyrick at yahoo.com Tue Dec 29 11:56:40 2009 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 10:56:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Healeys to Japan In-Reply-To: <000c01ca88af$d91421b0$8b3c6510$@net> Message-ID: <737849.56513.qm@web51404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Here's Mark's car on the Nasty Boys site: http://modifiedhealeys.org/Photos/57Lambert/Lambert1.htm IIRC that car engendered quite a bit of comment in the club mags and the list when it first appeared. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Tue, 12/29/09, John Trifari wrote: From: John Trifari Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healeys to Japan To: Editorgary at aol.com, healey.nut at gmail.com, healeys at autox.team.net Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 12:53 PM Check out Mark Lambert in Nashville TN. He made the switch some years back in his BN7; article appeared in Austin Healey Magazine in 1996 I think. John Trifari Golden Gate Austin Healey Club -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Editorgary at aol.com Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 11:18 PM To: healey.nut at gmail.com; Editorgary at aol.com; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healeys to Japan In a message dated 12/28/09 7:48:59 PM, healey.nut at gmail.com writes: > The 240 motor may fit in the Healey bay, but it is a smaller more > compact motor for sure, not the same. > The one that I saw, with the six-cylinder Nissan motor in the Healey, didn't look as if it was much smaller since it filled the engine bay just about as completely, with the engine mounts in exactly the same place. All I know is what I saw, and reports I've heard of other swaps. gary Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as jtrifari at comcast.net http://www.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive From scvc70 at epix.net Tue Dec 29 12:55:17 2009 From: scvc70 at epix.net (Carr&Edwards) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:55:17 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BN1 seat back Message-ID: Many thanks to all who have responded off-list to my request for a seat-back tracing -- we'll now be able to repair the DPO's butchery! This list is a priceless resource. Happy Healeying to all in 2010! Sarah Carr BN1 in PA From ronald-ray at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 29 14:12:15 2009 From: ronald-ray at sbcglobal.net (Ron Ray) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:12:15 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] 1275 Engine timing and carbs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000001ca88cb$991131e0$cb3395a0$@net> While trying to help a friend time the 1275 engine in his recently acquired Bugeye, we could not see or feel any indication on the pulley indicating the TDC notch. We looked and felt around the entire circumference of the pulley. Does anyone have any suggestions what may have happened and how to correct this? Also, one of the HS2 carbs' piston needle binds up after centering the jet and tightening the nut. Loosening the nut allows the piston to fall with the "clunk" sound. However, even with the nut lose the needle seems to be sticking as upon acceleration of the engine, this piston does not raise nearly as quickly as the other carb piston. I assume that the needle is bent and we should replace both the needles and jets in each carb. Thanks. Ron From pennell at cox.net Tue Dec 29 15:10:51 2009 From: pennell at cox.net (pennell at cox.net) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:10:51 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Healeys to Japan In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20091229171051.BJTTU.71787.imail@eastrmwml29> Alan and others, Was/Is there any weight savings with the 240 engine over the 3000 engine? Is the 240 engine alum? Keith Pennell ---- Alan Seigrist wrote: > The 240 motor may fit in the Healey bay, but it is a smaller more > compact motor for sure, not the same. > > The Datsun 1500/1600 is the one that's a direct drop in for the MGA/MGB motor. From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Dec 29 15:19:03 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:19:03 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] 1275 Engine timing and carbs In-Reply-To: <000001ca88cb$991131e0$cb3395a0$@net> References: <000001ca88cb$991131e0$cb3395a0$@net> Message-ID: <4B3A8057.7070104@chello.nl> As it is not the original engine (later Healey/Sprite, Mini, Metro, Cooper?), the timing mark may be on the flywheel. Or perhaps the original pulley was replaced due to damage or not of the proper type for this application. Was the waterpump and/or dynamo-alternator changed? If you cannot find any mark, just measure nr. 1 piston TDC accurately and make the mark yourself . One way of doing that is to make an adaptor from a sparkplug to blow bubbles from soapy water. Inserta few drops of heavy oil on the piston to create a really good seal. Put the piston in TDC as well as you can, fit the adaptor, stretch a film of soapy water accross the opening and find the position the bubble is at its biggest. That is TDC. It does not sound like very sophisticated technology but it works, you do not need special tools apart from making up an adaptor from an old sparkplug and it is extremely accurate. Kees Oudesluijs NL Ron Ray schreef: > While trying to help a friend time the 1275 engine in his recently acquired > Bugeye, we could not see or feel any indication on the pulley indicating the > TDC notch. We looked and felt around the entire circumference of the > pulley. > > Does anyone have any suggestions what may have happened and how to correct > this? > > Also, one of the HS2 carbs' piston needle binds up after centering the jet > and tightening the nut. Loosening the nut allows the piston to fall with > the "clunk" sound. However, even with the nut lose the needle seems to be > sticking as upon acceleration of the engine, this piston does not raise > nearly as quickly as the other carb piston. I assume that the needle is > bent and we should replace both the needles and jets in each carb. > > Thanks. > Ron > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as coudesluijs at chello.nl > > http://www.team.net/archive > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 9.0.722 / Virusdatabase: 270.14.122/2591 - datum van uitgifte: 12/28/09 20:32:00 From sbyers at ec.rr.com Tue Dec 29 15:48:34 2009 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:48:34 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 1275 Engine timing and carbs In-Reply-To: <000001ca88cb$991131e0$cb3395a0$@net> References: <000001ca88cb$991131e0$cb3395a0$@net> Message-ID: <008201ca88d9$0d8018e0$28804aa0$@rr.com> Ron, the 1275 crank pulley should have a small notch on the circumference on the edge BEHIND the fan belt groove. This location was probably selected by the same folks who decided to put the timing degree reference on the bottom of the engine. If you do not find a TDC notch even there, then you'll have to re-establish TDC and then make a permanent mark on the pulley in-line with the O mark on the degree reference. I made it a little more user-friendly by painting a white line on the front face of the pulley damper, in line with the notch. I would guess the carb needle is bent, but I've never had the symptoms on my 1275 so I'll leave a better answer to others. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry 1973 MG Midget Havelock, NC -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Ray Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 4:12 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] 1275 Engine timing and carbs While trying to help a friend time the 1275 engine in his recently acquired Bugeye, we could not see or feel any indication on the pulley indicating the TDC notch. We looked and felt around the entire circumference of the pulley. Does anyone have any suggestions what may have happened and how to correct this? Also, one of the HS2 carbs' piston needle binds up after centering the jet and tightening the nut. Loosening the nut allows the piston to fall with the "clunk" sound. However, even with the nut lose the needle seems to be sticking as upon acceleration of the engine, this piston does not raise nearly as quickly as the other carb piston. I assume that the needle is bent and we should replace both the needles and jets in each carb. Thanks. Ron From robertlarson at att.net Tue Dec 29 16:52:50 2009 From: robertlarson at att.net (Bob) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:52:50 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 1275 Engine timing and carbs In-Reply-To: <4B3A8057.7070104@chello.nl> References: <000001ca88cb$991131e0$cb3395a0$@net> <4B3A8057.7070104@chello.nl> Message-ID: <4B3A9652.1050208@att.net> I have an old tool very similar to this: http://store.royalenfieldusa.com/top-dead-center-tdc-finder-tool It has worked fine for me with motorcycles. However, who ever came up with this bubble trick all I can say is, THAT'S CLEVER!!! Thanks for sharing Kees. Bob Oudesluys wrote: > > One way of doing that is to make an adaptor from a sparkplug to blow > bubbles from soapy water. Inserta few drops of heavy oil on the piston > to create a really good seal. Put the piston in TDC as well as you > can, fit the adaptor, stretch a film of soapy water accross the > opening and find the position the bubble is at its biggest. > That is TDC. > It does not sound like very sophisticated technology but it works, you > do not need special tools apart from making up an adaptor from an old > sparkplug and it is extremely accurate. > Kees Oudesluijs > NL From mayorrichard at hotmail.com Tue Dec 29 17:50:50 2009 From: mayorrichard at hotmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:50:50 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] 280Z motor in a 3000 Message-ID: In 1997 I put a Nissan 280Z motor and 5 speed in one of my 3000s. I got the idea from Mark Lambert who wrote an article about it, that appeared in Chatter. I contacted him personally and purchased a how-to manual that he had prepared after doing his own swap. You really need this info because of the wiring harness and ECU and the fuel injection system. Dimensionally the motors are similar. The motor mounts line right up with each other. The capillary tube for the temperature gauge screws right into the thermostat housing on the Z motor - same threads, can you believe it? The engine is much lighter - at least 150 to 200 pounds lighter, although I never weighed the Z motor and tranny combo. But, the car sat a couple inches higher after I lowered the Z motor down onto the mounts. The problem with the swap is that you have to do it with the front shroud off the car. The engine is on a slant and the intake manifold for the injection system is quite large. Basically, you cannot install, or remove, the intake or exhaust manifolds with the shroud in place. I took the car apart after a few years to redo everything and haven't got it back together yet. However, when I do, I will not use fuel injection or need the ECU. I have manifolds off early 240 Z motors with SU carbs and also a triple Mikuni setup (Japanese Webers). I think the Nissan swap is much better than any V8 swap. I used a stock Healey muffler and everyone thought the sound was the Healey 6 cylinder. The Nissan motor is virtually indestructable. They can go 200,000-300,000 miles without a rebuild - so I'm told. It will turn your Healey into a rocket. I can promise you that!!!!!! Richard Mayor _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ From dwflagg at juno.com Tue Dec 29 18:28:56 2009 From: dwflagg at juno.com (dwflagg) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:28:56 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 100 Parts Manual Message-ID: <20091229.172944.23159.67517@mailpop01.dca.untd.com> Some years back one of the, then, two Healey clubs, printed a copy of the 100 parts and, I believe, service manual. I want to say they were in a green notebook or binder. If anyone has information or the manuals, can you please contact me off the list. TIA. Doug ____________________________________________________________ Love Spell Click here to light up your life with a love spell! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=dAHibrD1CjnnsGLcxplNzwAAJ1B-9ttc3k1I_21D8YCzT29EAAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARwAAAAA= From glemon at neb.rr.com Tue Dec 29 21:34:47 2009 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:34:47 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Start of the Japanese Auto Industry In-Reply-To: <4B3A2733.5060303@chello.nl> References: <71390.56649.qm@web112514.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><715873.94281.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4B3A2733.5060303@chello.nl> Message-ID: <9FC6DB41024C4E0481885E9FE36C54CE@GregPC> Donald (or maybe Geoffrey) said really bad things about the Honda S500-800 in one of the Healey books they wrote in comparing it to the Sprite, but I have also read some fairly good reviews of the cars, pretty rare over here, never have seen one in the flesh let alone driven one. Greg Lemon " They already knew: Honda S500-S800 Kees Oudesluijs" From Awgertoo at aol.com Tue Dec 29 23:09:16 2009 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 01:09:16 EST Subject: [Healeys] Start of the Japanese Auto Industry Message-ID: I often race with a fellow who drives an S800--the car is fast! See below--44 HP from 531 cc's is approximately 80 HP per litre, whereas most British pushrod engines of the era were putting out approximately 50. BTW one of the things most MGA race engine builders do is to use the oil pump spindle off of a Honda Fairlady (1600) in place of the MG one--they are a bolt-in replacement and are much stronger and will survive at 7000 rpm's whereas the stock ones often break at 6000. I have one in my Elva and bet that Gary Anderson does too in his MGA. Best--Michael Oritt "From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The S500 was the first production _car_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Car) from _Honda_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda) , released in 1963, following the _T360_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_T360) truck into production by four months. It was a larger displacement variant of the _S360_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_S360) roadster which, though developed for sale in 1962, was never produced. Like the S360, the S500 used a high-tech engine developed from Honda's _motorcycle_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorcycle) expertise. It was a _dual overhead cam_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_overhead_cam) _straight-4_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight-4) with four _carburettors_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carburettor) and a 9500 rpm redline. Originally intended to displace 492 cc, the production version was 531 cc and produced 44 hp at 8000 rpm. The S500 used a 4-speed _manual transmission_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manual_transmission) with _chain drive_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chain_drive) at the rear wheels. A four-wheel _independent suspension_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_suspension) was also novel, with _torsion bars_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torsion_bar) in front and diagonal _coilover_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coilover) _shock absorbers_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock_absorber) at the rear. The car was priced at $1,275 in 1963. A fiberglass _hardtop_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardtop) was also available. 1,363 S500s were produced from October 1963 through September 1964. From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Dec 29 23:15:55 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:15:55 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Start of the Japanese Auto Industry In-Reply-To: <9FC6DB41024C4E0481885E9FE36C54CE@GregPC> References: <71390.56649.qm@web112514.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <715873.94281.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4B3A2733.5060303@chello.nl> <9FC6DB41024C4E0481885E9FE36C54CE@GregPC> Message-ID: My mom had an S800 when we lived in Japan in the 60s when my dad was flying out of Tachikawa. For sure the Sprite was pound for pound a more reliable and faster track car, but the S800 revved over 7500 rpms and sounded like a Formula 1 racer on the highway. My dad had one of the old bespoke coachbuilt Nissan Presidents. He much preferred that car, at 6'4" he couldn't fit in the S800. The S800 had the most retarded rear end with an offset live axle & chain drive to make room for the spare tire.... The engine on the other hand, was pure genius. On 12/30/09, Greg Lemon wrote: > Donald (or maybe Geoffrey) said really bad things about the Honda S500-800 > in one of the Healey books they wrote in comparing it to the Sprite, but I > have also read some fairly good reviews of the cars, pretty rare over here, > never have seen one in the flesh let alone driven one. > > Greg Lemon > > " They already knew: Honda S500-S800 > Kees Oudesluijs" > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Sent from my mobile device Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 From Awgertoo at aol.com Tue Dec 29 23:24:51 2009 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 01:24:51 EST Subject: [Healeys] Muffler for Healey 100 Message-ID: I am obviously getting old--the exhaust on my 100 Lemans is just too loud, something I thought I would never say! I just got through installing a new Jensen MSR2007 AM/FM radio complete with Sirius Radio receiver and Ipod input. It has adequate power--15 watts per channel and 4 good speakers yet I simply cannot enjoy the music over the exhaust unless I turn the volume WAY up, and even still the exhaust is still very obtrusive. I have the Denis Welch tubular header/exhaust system which is 2" in diameter and wonder if anyone knows of a good muffler which will mate up to a 2" exhaust pipe. I am willing to sacrifice a little performance for being able to hear the music! The exhaust system has been on the car since about 2002 so perhaps it has deteriorated slowly over the years. It also has its share of scrapes, etc. along the bottom so I don't feel it owes me much. Any recommendations appreciated. Best--Michael Oritt From austin.healey at gmail.com Tue Dec 29 23:43:33 2009 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:43:33 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Start of the Japanese Auto Industry In-Reply-To: <9FC6DB41024C4E0481885E9FE36C54CE@GregPC> References: <71390.56649.qm@web112514.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><715873.94281.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4B3A2733.5060303@chello.nl> <9FC6DB41024C4E0481885E9FE36C54CE@GregPC> Message-ID: <6F67034A-7C49-4636-9025-EFBE5FBC4E63@gmail.com> Don't know about the S500, but we had S600s and S800s here. The s600 was literally a motorcycle drivetrain fitted to a car body. Literally. Chain drive to the rear wheels (not a tail shaft) and an aircooled engine that revved to 8 or 9,000 rpm. And very little torque. The S800 had a tailshaft rather than a chain drive, and I think it was watercooled, but don't quote me on that. They were far inferior to a Sprite, very Spartan and basic (and that's far more Spartan than a spridget!!!!) Sent from my iPhone On 30/12/2009, at 3:34 PM, "Greg Lemon" wrote: > Donald (or maybe Geoffrey) said really bad things about the Honda > S500-800 in one of the Healey books they wrote in comparing it to > the Sprite, but I have also read some fairly good reviews of the > cars, pretty rare over here, never have seen one in the flesh let > alone driven one. > > Greg Lemon > > " They already knew: Honda S500-S800 > Kees Oudesluijs" > _____________ From coll44 at msn.com Wed Dec 30 00:01:27 2009 From: coll44 at msn.com (TERRY COLL) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 02:01:27 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Healeys to Japan In-Reply-To: <20091229171051.BJTTU.71787.imail@eastrmwml29> References: , <20091229171051.BJTTU.71787.imail@eastrmwml29> Message-ID: 240Z head is aluminum, block is iron. Surely some weight savings there. Terry Coll '64 BJ8 > Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:10:51 -0500 > From: pennell at cox.net > To: healey.nut at gmail.com; Editorgary at aol.com; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healeys to Japan > > Alan and others, > > Was/Is there any weight savings with the 240 engine over the 3000 engine? Is the 240 engine alum? > > Keith Pennell > > ---- > > You are subscribed as coll44 at msn.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Dec 30 00:31:01 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 02:31:01 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Muffler for Healey 100 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Michael - Try your local muffler fitter - he should be able to help you find the right silencer to fit up to your SS system. I have the stock Bell silencer - I love it... Alan On 12/30/09, Awgertoo at aol.com wrote: > I am obviously getting old--the exhaust on my 100 Lemans is just too loud, > something I thought I would never say! > > I just got through installing a new Jensen MSR2007 AM/FM radio complete > with Sirius Radio receiver and Ipod input. It has adequate power--15 watts > per channel and 4 good speakers yet I simply cannot enjoy the music over > the exhaust unless I turn the volume WAY up, and even still the exhaust is > still very obtrusive. > > I have the Denis Welch tubular header/exhaust system which is 2" in > diameter and wonder if anyone knows of a good muffler which will mate up to > a 2" > exhaust pipe. I am willing to sacrifice a little performance for being > able to hear the music! The exhaust system has been on the car since about > 2002 so perhaps it has deteriorated slowly over the years. It also has its > share of scrapes, etc. along the bottom so I don't feel it owes me much. > > Any recommendations appreciated. > > Best--Michael Oritt > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Sent from my mobile device Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Wed Dec 30 00:56:13 2009 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:56:13 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Start of the Japanese Auto Industry In-Reply-To: References: <71390.56649.qm@web112514.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><715873.94281.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com><4B3A2733.5060303@chello.nl> <9FC6DB41024C4E0481885E9FE36C54CE@GregPC> Message-ID: <845BE4A667A0426397513C43288607D8@PatrickQuinnPC> G'day I have had the pleasure of driving both the Honda S600 and S800. Both great little cars. In both, the 4-cylinder DOHC engines are jewels and will easily rev to 10,000rpm. At that speed I can't vouch for longevity, but the current Honda S2000 will do the same and does last. Both the S600 and S800 (we never got the S500 in Australia) had conventional 4-speed gearboxes, but the S600 was a carryon from Honda's motorcycle background with twin chain drive to the rear end. The S800 had a normal driveshaft and solid rear end with semi-eliptics. I recall one duel we had with a MG Midget and I must say the S800 we were in was far quicker, but the Midget handled well. As a matter of interest Honda is one of the few automotive companies that still has the fingerprints of its founder all over it. Mr Honda's successor was Mr Kume who arrived in England in 1965 as a motor mechanic to assist Sir Jack Brabham in his Formula 2 exploits. They had not a word of common language between them, but Honda engines gave Black Jack the championship. All the best for 2010. Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Alan Seigrist Sent: Wednesday, 30 December 2009 5:16 PM To: Greg Lemon; Oudesluys; Carr&Edwards; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Start of the Japanese Auto Industry My mom had an S800 when we lived in Japan in the 60s when my dad was flying out of Tachikawa. For sure the Sprite was pound for pound a more reliable and faster track car, but the S800 revved over 7500 rpms and sounded like a Formula 1 racer on the highway. My dad had one of the old bespoke coachbuilt Nissan Presidents. He much preferred that car, at 6'4" he couldn't fit in the S800. The S800 had the most retarded rear end with an offset live axle & chain drive to make room for the spare tire.... The engine on the other hand, was pure genius. On 12/30/09, Greg Lemon wrote: > Donald (or maybe Geoffrey) said really bad things about the Honda S500-800 > in one of the Healey books they wrote in comparing it to the Sprite, but I > have also read some fairly good reviews of the cars, pretty rare over here, > never have seen one in the flesh let alone driven one. > > Greg Lemon > > " They already knew: Honda S500-S800 > Kees Oudesluijs" Sent from my mobile device Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Wed Dec 30 01:22:37 2009 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:22:37 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Healeys to Japan In-Reply-To: References: , <20091229171051.BJTTU.71787.imail@eastrmwml29> Message-ID: <55DBDD905EC1478494A53E4B3F6DCDA9@PatrickQuinnPC> G'day Yes that would have made a difference, but also the BMC C-series engine was cast by gravity feed of molten iron into a sand casting, while the Nissan engine would have been pressure cast with thinwall construction. Sort of like the huge weight difference when Ford introduced the legendary pressure cast 260/289 V8. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of TERRY COLL Sent: Wednesday, 30 December 2009 6:01 PM To: pennell at cox.net; healey.nut at gmail.com; editorgary at aol.com; austin healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healeys to Japan 240Z head is aluminum, block is iron. Surely some weight savings there. Terry Coll '64 BJ8 > Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:10:51 -0500 > From: pennell at cox.net > To: healey.nut at gmail.com; Editorgary at aol.com; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healeys to Japan > > Alan and others, > > Was/Is there any weight savings with the 240 engine over the 3000 engine? Is the 240 engine alum? > > Keith Pennell > > ---- > > You are subscribed as coll44 at msn.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as p_cquinn at tpg.com.au http://www.team.net/archive From eyera3 at gmail.com Wed Dec 30 01:24:00 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:24:00 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Muffler for Healey 100 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <173126440912300024l3acaa056t51efd43d0f44950a@mail.gmail.com> You have it wrong. I removed the stereo to enjoy the engine music from the tail pipe :) On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 10:24 PM, wrote: > I am obviously getting old--the exhaust on my 100 Lemans is just too loud, > something I thought I would never say! > > I just got through installing a new Jensen MSR2007 AM/FM radio complete > with Sirius Radio receiver and Ipod input. It has adequate power--15 > watts > per channel and 4 good speakers yet I simply cannot enjoy the music over > the exhaust unless I turn the volume WAY up, and even still the exhaust is > still very obtrusive. > > I have the Denis Welch tubular header/exhaust system which is 2" in > diameter and wonder if anyone knows of a good muffler which will mate up to > a 2" > exhaust pipe. I am willing to sacrifice a little performance for being > able to hear the music! The exhaust system has been on the car since > about > 2002 so perhaps it has deteriorated slowly over the years. It also has > its > share of scrapes, etc. along the bottom so I don't feel it owes me much. > > Any recommendations appreciated. > > Best--Michael Oritt > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- I Erbs Portland, OR From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Dec 30 02:50:11 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:50:11 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Muffler for Healey 100 In-Reply-To: <173126440912300024l3acaa056t51efd43d0f44950a@mail.gmail.com> References: <173126440912300024l3acaa056t51efd43d0f44950a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I have to agree with Michael - spend more than 20 minutes on the freeway and you will start damaging your hearing. Keeping the cars quieter is a good idea. The stock silencers still give enough of a sporty note, even on my BJ8. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 4:24 PM, I Erbs wrote: > You have it wrong. I removed the stereo to enjoy the engine music from the > tail pipe :) > > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 10:24 PM, wrote: > > > I am obviously getting old--the exhaust on my 100 Lemans is just too > loud, > > something I thought I would never say! > > > > I just got through installing a new Jensen MSR2007 AM/FM radio complete > > with Sirius Radio receiver and Ipod input. It has adequate power--15 > > watts > > per channel and 4 good speakers yet I simply cannot enjoy the music over > > the exhaust unless I turn the volume WAY up, and even still the exhaust > is > > still very obtrusive. > > > > I have the Denis Welch tubular header/exhaust system which is 2" in > > diameter and wonder if anyone knows of a good muffler which will mate up > to > > a 2" > > exhaust pipe. I am willing to sacrifice a little performance for being > > able to hear the music! The exhaust system has been on the car since > > about > > 2002 so perhaps it has deteriorated slowly over the years. It also has > > its > > share of scrapes, etc. along the bottom so I don't feel it owes me much. > > > > Any recommendations appreciated. > > > > Best--Michael Oritt From grday at btinternet.com Wed Dec 30 03:48:53 2009 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:48:53 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Muffler for Healey 100 References: <173126440912300024l3acaa056t51efd43d0f44950a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6AAE97B75B22447DB0324BBF34BE406A@user8634b3d69b> Here in the UK a loud vehicle exhaust sound in the street is generally seen as a bad sign. It conjures up images of forever being stopped by the Police, of potentially dangerous youth involvement (ie drugs, muggings, thefts etc), of being a flash boy racer or fast uncontrolled driving. It is always a source of amusement to read posts where having a loud exhaust note is a requisite. Seeing some of the exhaust tail pipes that are larger than the engine cylinder bore is also an amusing sight provided by 'yoof' who cruise around in rather loud Jap cars. Bling rules in the street parade! Please do not get me wrong, the sound of a well tuned exhaust note is wonderful and despite living across town and 4 miles away from what was my nearest car tuning centre I could still hear when they had a 'good' motor on the rolling road. This was normally a single seat racecar on the third set of rollers (Harry's set)that read up to 600bhp and if doing nothing else I'd pop down there to see what it was. A loud exhaust note does not equate to the best power output and my recommendation would be to thoroughly research exhaust tuning, especially tuned length savaging systems for LBCs. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "I Erbs" To: Cc: Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 8:24 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Muffler for Healey 100 > You have it wrong. I removed the stereo to enjoy the engine music from the > tail pipe :) > > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 10:24 PM, wrote: > >> I am obviously getting old--the exhaust on my 100 Lemans is just too >> loud, >> something I thought I would never say! >> >> I just got through installing a new Jensen MSR2007 AM/FM radio complete >> with Sirius Radio receiver and Ipod input. It has adequate power--15 >> watts per channel and 4 good speakers yet I simply cannot enjoy the >> music over the exhaust unless I turn the volume WAY up, and even still >> the exhaust is still very obtrusive. >> >> I have the Denis Welch tubular header/exhaust system which is 2" in >> diameter and wonder if anyone knows of a good muffler which will mate up >> to a 2" >> exhaust pipe. I am willing to sacrifice a little performance for being >> able to hear the music! The exhaust system has been on the car since >> about >> 2002 so perhaps it has deteriorated slowly over the years. It also has >> its share of scrapes, etc. along the bottom so I don't feel it owes me >> much. >> >> Any recommendations appreciated. >> >> Best--Michael Oritt >> _______________________________________________ From coudesluijs at chello.nl Wed Dec 30 06:54:25 2009 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Oudesluys) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:54:25 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Start of the Japanese Auto Industry In-Reply-To: <6F67034A-7C49-4636-9025-EFBE5FBC4E63@gmail.com> References: <71390.56649.qm@web112514.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><715873.94281.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4B3A2733.5060303@chello.nl> <9FC6DB41024C4E0481885E9FE36C54CE@GregPC> <6F67034A-7C49-4636-9025-EFBE5FBC4E63@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B3B5B91.8010801@chello.nl> Chris, I cannot agree on that. There was no way a Sprite could compete with the S800. OK, it was a bit spartan, but so was the original Sprite. Later Sprites and Midgets had a different suspension set up that was a lot more compliant The Honda watercooled engine was a gem which could take 10.000rpm quite easily if balanced and was very tunable. On the track it ran rings around the Sprite with its fairly agricultural engine. They were quite popular track cars here at the time together with BMWs, DKWs, Abarths, Coopers, Glas', Alfettas etc. Kees Oudesluijs NL Chris Dimmock schreef: > Don't know about the S500, but we had S600s and S800s here. > The s600 was literally a motorcycle drivetrain fitted to a car body. > Literally. > Chain drive to the rear wheels (not a tail shaft) and an aircooled > engine that revved to 8 or 9,000 rpm. And very little torque. > The S800 had a tailshaft rather than a chain drive, and I think it was > watercooled, but don't quote me on that. They were far inferior to a > Sprite, very Spartan and basic (and that's far more Spartan than a > spridget!!!!) > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 30/12/2009, at 3:34 PM, "Greg Lemon" wrote: > >> Donald (or maybe Geoffrey) said really bad things about the Honda >> S500-800 in one of the Healey books they wrote in comparing it to the >> Sprite, but I have also read some fairly good reviews of the cars, >> pretty rare over here, never have seen one in the flesh let alone >> driven one. >> >> Greg Lemon >> >> " They already knew: Honda S500-S800 >> Kees Oudesluijs" >> _____________ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 9.0.722 / Virusdatabase: 270.14.123/2593 - datum van uitgifte: 12/29/09 20:14:00 From 57healey at gmail.com Wed Dec 30 09:35:00 2009 From: 57healey at gmail.com (Patton Dickson) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:35:00 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] 1964 Austin Healey 3000 BJ-8 for sale on Dallas Criagslist Message-ID: <743b1e2f0912300835g69c59ccdi367724728081d2bb@mail.gmail.com> This just posted on Dallas Craigslist, I don't know the car or owner, just forwarding it on http://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/ctd/1530379456.html 1964 Austin Healey 3000 BJ-8 Same owner since 1982, stored in dry Texas garage since 1982, very solid, straight BJ-8, Minor rust in the toe boards, battery box and section of rear fender otherwise remarkably solid, beautiful frame and chassis, solid inner and outer rockers, nice wheelhouses etc.. Please look at all detailed pictures of these areas to appreciate the car. Original paint color was Healey Blue, repainted to present color in late '70's, Passenger side is red primer, interior is original and is dark blue, very complete correct BJ-8 with no known missing parts, engine starts easily and runs well, strong oil pressure, all gauges work, clutch hydraulics work well, transmission shifts good, brakes work but are weak. This is a stellar start for a restoration, odometer shows 64,347 miles and is believed to be actual. numbers on chassis tag are 3175BJ8 / 70644 Car No./VIN# is HBJ8L / 25760. Worldwide Shipping is Available. $26,800.00 Please contact Dennis 972-442-6189 x226 -- Patton Dickson - http://Austin-Healeys.com - Plano, TX 1957 Austin-Healey 100-Six "Built to run 'til the road wears out." From jackson_krall at yahoo.com Wed Dec 30 10:28:36 2009 From: jackson_krall at yahoo.com (Jackson Krall) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 09:28:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Start of the Japanese Auto Industry In-Reply-To: <6F67034A-7C49-4636-9025-EFBE5FBC4E63@gmail.com> Message-ID: <578462.16015.qm@web52408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I don't know if it was an S500 or an S600s but I saw one in the Hudson Valley a couple of months ago. It was shabby yellow with the roof chopped off and a rollbar added. Wheels looked smaller than those on the classic Mini. I asked the owner to contact me if he ever wanted to sell. Aside from a Berkley, I can't think of any smaller car. Happy New Year to All Best JK NYC --- On Wed, 12/30/09, Chris Dimmock wrote: > From: Chris Dimmock > Don't know about the S500, but we had > S600s and S800s here. > The s600 was literally a motorcycle drivetrain fitted to a > car body. Literally. > Chain drive to the rear wheels (not a tail shaft) and an > aircooled engine that revved to 8 or 9,000 rpm. And very > little torque. From healeyrick at yahoo.com Wed Dec 30 11:14:19 2009 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:14:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] 1964 Austin Healey 3000 BJ-8 for sale on Dallas Criagslist Message-ID: <722301.94870.qm@web51403.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I would call that a non-factory exterior/interior color combination. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Wed, 12/30/09, Patton Dickson <57healey at gmail.com> wrote: From: Patton Dickson <57healey at gmail.com> Subject: [Healeys] 1964 Austin Healey 3000 BJ-8 for sale on Dallas Criagslist To: "Healey List" Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 11:35 AM This just posted on Dallas Craigslist, I don't know the car or owner, just forwarding it on http://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/ctd/1530379456.html From linsley46 at gmail.com Wed Dec 30 12:05:24 2009 From: linsley46 at gmail.com (John McElrath) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:05:24 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] new question Message-ID: Rich - I am going to order the wheels and tires for my car in the next couple of weeks but I am a little confused by the Guidelines. One place says *Acceptable Tire Sizes:* *Cross-ply 5.90 x 15 (some RS5s were marked 5.50/5.90x15)* *Radial 165 x 15* In another section it says *(For example, a car with 165x15 tires would receive a 5-point deduction...* When I look at the tire sites I see the Roadspeeds that meet the guideline although they are 590s.. The Michelins all seem to be 165s. I have found a Pirellie Cinturato at 165 as well. The question is if I use the radial do I get a 5 point deduction? As for Mitchlin's I can find a 145 X but all of the other tires have XZX or some other direvitive. If I use a Mitchlin XZX (165) or the Pirellie Cinturato (again 165) would that be a 5 point deduction? I am also looking for the source for the rubber retaining rings that hold the wires to the front turn signal housings. I have not been able to find them and would like to add them to the car. I placed an order with MacGregor for some parts so we will see how that goes. Hope you had a wonderful Christmas and have a very Happy New Year. John From Healey100M at gmail.com Wed Dec 30 12:32:22 2009 From: Healey100M at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:32:22 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 1964 Austin Healey 3000 BJ-8 for sale on Dallas Criagslist In-Reply-To: <722301.94870.qm@web51403.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <722301.94870.qm@web51403.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yes, but he states that it was Healey Blue originally. It is however, one of only 1390 Phase I BJ8's built. They seem to be snapped up pretty quick. I wonder if he knows the rarity? Randy Randy Hicks www.austinhealey100m.com '56 100 M '55 BN1 Dealer Le Mans '62 BN7 MkII '65 BJ8 '53 MGTD Healey100M at gmail.com On Dec 30, 2009, at 1:14 PM, HealeyRick wrote: > I would call that a non-factory exterior/interior color combination. > > Rick > > > > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > > --- On Wed, 12/30/09, Patton Dickson <57healey at gmail.com> wrote: > > From: Patton Dickson <57healey at gmail.com> > Subject: [Healeys] 1964 Austin Healey 3000 BJ-8 for sale on Dallas Criagslist > To: "Healey List" > Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 11:35 AM > > This just posted on Dallas Craigslist, I don't know the car or owner, > just forwarding it on > > http://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/ctd/1530379456.html > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey100m at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From bspidell at comcast.net Wed Dec 30 12:38:57 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:38:57 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] 1964 Austin Healey 3000 BJ-8 for sale on Dallas Criagslist In-Reply-To: <722301.94870.qm@web51403.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1297294320.4018061262201937541.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> "... interior is original and is dark blue ..." Except, maybe, for the tuck-and-roll rear seat back. bs -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA I would call that a non-factory exterior/interior color combination. Rick This just posted on Dallas Craigslist, I don't know the car or owner, just forwarding it on http://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/ctd/1530379456.html From tomfelts at windstream.net Wed Dec 30 13:00:41 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:00:41 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] 1964 Austin Healey 3000 BJ-8 for sale on Dallas Criagslist In-Reply-To: <722301.94870.qm@web51403.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20091230140041.TOFWX.44315.root@ispmxfep12-z02> Is the rear seat back original?? Certainly not like my 65. Never seen this color blue. ---- HealeyRick wrote: ============= I would call that a non-factory exterior/interior color combination. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Wed, 12/30/09, Patton Dickson <57healey at gmail.com> wrote: From: Patton Dickson <57healey at gmail.com> Subject: [Healeys] 1964 Austin Healey 3000 BJ-8 for sale on Dallas Criagslist To: "Healey List" Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 11:35 AM This just posted on Dallas Craigslist, I don't know the car or owner, just forwarding it on http://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/ctd/1530379456.html Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net http://www.team.net/archive From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Wed Dec 30 13:11:26 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:11:26 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Muffler for Healey 100 In-Reply-To: <6AAE97B75B22447DB0324BBF34BE406A@user8634b3d69b> References: <173126440912300024l3acaa056t51efd43d0f44950a@mail.gmail.com> <6AAE97B75B22447DB0324BBF34BE406A@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: You definitely would not like my Harley Davidson with the aftermarket exhaust then Guy. It sets off car alarms at 100 feet when I really get on it, but I wear ear plugs. The ear plugs are more for the wind noise instead of the noise behind me. Mike MacLean 56 BN2 60 AN5 02 Heritage Springer On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:48 AM, Guy R Day wrote: > Here in the UK a loud vehicle exhaust sound in the street is generally seen > as a bad sign. It conjures up images of forever being stopped by the > Police, of potentially dangerous youth involvement (ie drugs, muggings, > thefts etc), of being a flash boy racer or fast uncontrolled driving. It is > always a source of amusement to read posts where having a loud exhaust note > is a requisite. Seeing some of the exhaust tail pipes that are larger than > the engine cylinder bore is also an amusing sight provided by 'yoof' who > cruise around in rather loud Jap cars. Bling rules in the street parade! > Please do not get me wrong, the sound of a well tuned exhaust note is > wonderful and despite living across town and 4 miles away from what was my > nearest car tuning centre I could still hear when they had a 'good' motor on > the rolling road. This was normally a single seat racecar on the third set > of rollers (Harry's set)that read up to 600bhp and if doing nothing else I'd > pop down there to see what it was. > > A loud exhaust note does not equate to the best power output and my > recommendation would be to thoroughly research exhaust tuning, especially > tuned length savaging systems for LBCs. > > Guy R Day From ampole at hotmail.com Wed Dec 30 13:44:18 2009 From: ampole at hotmail.com (andy pole) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:44:18 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] shelley jack Message-ID: Hi Guys Anyone know what this jack is off? the seller seems to think its for the bj's but I thought they had a strengthening collar and not a gusset (this looks more like an e-type with the gusset, but the wrong pad on top?) Silly thing is I have one identical to this! cheers Andy _________________________________________________________________ Got more than one Hotmail account? Save time by linking them together http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/ From ampole at hotmail.com Wed Dec 30 13:47:42 2009 From: ampole at hotmail.com (andy pole) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:47:42 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] shelley jack with ebay item number Message-ID: Hi Guys ebay item number : 230415824548 Anyone know what this jack is off? the seller seems to think its for the bj's but I thought they had a strengthening collar and not a gusset (this looks more like an e-type with the gusset, but the wrong pad on top?) Silly thing is I have one identical to this! cheers Andy _________________________________________________________________ Got more than one Hotmail account? Save time by linking them together http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/ From richchrysler at quickclic.net Wed Dec 30 14:36:05 2009 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:36:05 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 1964 Austin Healey 3000 BJ-8 for sale on Dallas Criagslist References: <20091230140041.TOFWX.44315.root@ispmxfep12-z02> Message-ID: I just looked over all the pictures of this car pretty carefully. The idiot who sprayed that red paint all over it should have been shot. The car appears to be a very solid unblemished car in most areas. original unique little Phase 1 details are intact, including black waher bottle bracket, intact console with original cubby box. The only really bad area seems to be under the battery, with what looks like some serious corrosion right through the floor and rear right side of the trunk. The rear interior panel seems to be completely replaced with that horrible pleated vinyl thing, not at all original, for sure. Somebody's gone with the cheaper earlier exhaust system rather than the proper BJ8 system. Looks like owner number one kept and protected the car from new for a long time, while owner number two somehow tried to keep it on the road with cheap paint, exhaust, etc. The car certainly needs a complete ground up, but it appears that metal wise at least, it should be pretty straight forward. This could be the makings of a really nice and correct Healey Blue Phase 1 BJ8. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Felts" To: "HealeyRick" ; Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] 1964 Austin Healey 3000 BJ-8 for sale on Dallas Criagslist > Is the rear seat back original?? Certainly not like my 65. Never seen > this color blue. > > > ---- HealeyRick wrote: > > ============= > I would call that a non-factory exterior/interior color combination. > > Rick > > > > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > > --- On Wed, 12/30/09, Patton Dickson <57healey at gmail.com> wrote: > > From: Patton Dickson <57healey at gmail.com> > Subject: [Healeys] 1964 Austin Healey 3000 BJ-8 for sale on Dallas > Criagslist > To: "Healey List" > Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 11:35 AM > > This just posted on Dallas Craigslist, I don't know the car or owner, > just forwarding it on > > http://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/ctd/1530379456.html > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richchrysler at quickclic.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From 63ahbj7 at comcast.net Wed Dec 30 14:44:51 2009 From: 63ahbj7 at comcast.net (63ahbj7) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:44:51 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] 1964 Austin Healey 3000 BJ-8 for sale on Dallas Criagslist In-Reply-To: References: <722301.94870.qm@web51403.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4B3BC9D3.2000201@comcast.net> << It is however, one of only 1390 Phase I BJ8's built. They seem to be snapped up pretty quick. I wonder if he knows the rarity? >> Looks like a Dealer phone # to me ?!? From Healey100M at gmail.com Wed Dec 30 14:45:38 2009 From: Healey100M at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:45:38 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: 1964 Austin Healey 3000 BJ-8 for sale on Dallas Criagslist References: Message-ID: <49BDEB4B-2140-43E5-AFD4-9368DE43351D@gmail.com> Steve, just out of curiosity, how many Phase I do you have in the Registry? Randy Randy Hicks www.austinhealey100m.com '56 100 M '55 BN1 Dealer Le Mans '62 BN7 MkII '65 BJ8 '53 MGTD Healey100M at gmail.com Begin forwarded message: > From: Randy Hicks > Date: December 30, 2009 2:32:22 PM EST > To: HealeyRick > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] 1964 Austin Healey 3000 BJ-8 for sale on Dallas Criagslist > > Yes, but he states that it was Healey Blue originally. > > It is however, one of only 1390 Phase I BJ8's built. They seem to be snapped > up pretty quick. I wonder if he knows the rarity? > > Randy > > Randy Hicks > www.austinhealey100m.com > '56 100 M > '55 BN1 Dealer Le Mans > '62 BN7 MkII > '65 BJ8 > '53 MGTD > Healey100M at gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 30, 2009, at 1:14 PM, HealeyRick wrote: > >> I would call that a non-factory exterior/interior color combination. >> >> Rick >> >> >> >> Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo >> >> --- On Wed, 12/30/09, Patton Dickson <57healey at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> From: Patton Dickson <57healey at gmail.com> >> Subject: [Healeys] 1964 Austin Healey 3000 BJ-8 for sale on Dallas > Criagslist >> To: "Healey List" >> Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 11:35 AM >> >> This just posted on Dallas Craigslist, I don't know the car or owner, >> just forwarding it on >> >> http://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/ctd/1530379456.html >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as healey100m at gmail.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey100m at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From 63ahbj7 at comcast.net Wed Dec 30 14:46:02 2009 From: 63ahbj7 at comcast.net (63ahbj7) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:46:02 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] 1964 Austin Healey 3000 BJ-8 for sale on Dallas Criagslist In-Reply-To: <1297294320.4018061262201937541.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1297294320.4018061262201937541.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4B3BCA1A.30207@comcast.net> << Except, maybe, for the tuck-and-roll rear seat back. >> And it looks like [to me] a BJ-7 backrest ?!? Ed From e-wilkins at cox.net Wed Dec 30 15:03:40 2009 From: e-wilkins at cox.net (Eric (Rick) Wilkins) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:03:40 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Sebring 1960 In-Reply-To: <6FE3703D-2881-41DD-9C7B-378D177FD82B@cox.net> References: <8CC1F2DA73866DD-2A50-70D2@webmail-m080.sysops.aol.com> <4ADD63EB.7010204@chello.nl> <6FE3703D-2881-41DD-9C7B-378D177FD82B@cox.net> Message-ID: I've always enjoyed the cars that the Healey team raced at Sebring in 1960 (the UJB cars) and I recently found the poster from the event and am excited that not only is it from that important event, but it is (IMHO) one of the coolest looking vintage race posters I've seen. I now have an original framed in my son's room. See it here: http://ewilkins.com/wilko/pics/sebring_1960.jpg Wilko San Diego From richchrysler at quickclic.net Wed Dec 30 15:12:16 2009 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:12:16 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] shelley jack with ebay item number References: Message-ID: You're absolutely right, Andy. This is not for a Healey. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy pole" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 3:47 PM Subject: [Healeys] shelley jack with ebay item number > Hi Guys > > > > ebay item number : 230415824548 > > Anyone know what this jack is off? the seller seems to think its for the > bj's > but I thought they had a strengthening collar and not a gusset (this looks > more like an e-type with the gusset, but the wrong pad on top?) > > Silly thing is I have one identical to this! > > cheers Andy > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Got more than one Hotmail account? Save time by linking them together > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richchrysler at quickclic.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From Healey100M at gmail.com Wed Dec 30 15:12:27 2009 From: Healey100M at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:12:27 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 1964 Austin Healey 3000 BJ-8 for sale on ebay References: Message-ID: <175CD73D-5E3E-4483-A9C5-F6E2BDBBCF10@gmail.com> If anyone is interested, it has popped up on ebay also with more pictures. Item # 170426017577 Randy Begin forwarded message: > From: Randy Hicks > Date: December 30, 2009 2:32:22 PM EST > To: HealeyRick > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] 1964 Austin Healey 3000 BJ-8 for sale on Dallas Criagslist > > Yes, but he states that it was Healey Blue originally. > > It is however, one of only 1390 Phase I BJ8's built. They seem to be snapped > up pretty quick. I wonder if he knows the rarity? > > Randy > > Randy Hicks > www.austinhealey100m.com > '56 100 M > '55 BN1 Dealer Le Mans > '62 BN7 MkII > '65 BJ8 > '53 MGTD > Healey100M at gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 30, 2009, at 1:14 PM, HealeyRick wrote: > >> I would call that a non-factory exterior/interior color combination. >> >> Rick >> >> >> >> Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo >> >> --- On Wed, 12/30/09, Patton Dickson <57healey at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> From: Patton Dickson <57healey at gmail.com> >> Subject: [Healeys] 1964 Austin Healey 3000 BJ-8 for sale on Dallas > Criagslist >> To: "Healey List" >> Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 11:35 AM >> >> This just posted on Dallas Craigslist, I don't know the car or owner, >> just forwarding it on >> >> http://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/ctd/1530379456.html >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as healey100m at gmail.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey100m at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From tomfelts at windstream.net Wed Dec 30 15:16:24 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:16:24 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Muffler for Healey 100 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20091230161624.TWAAB.47316.root@ispmxfep12-z02> OK----here goes. You will just have to hate me, but the motorcycle noise such as straight pipes, no mufflers, etc are one of THE most annoying things out there. It is beyond me why MANY riders have zero concern for others when they drive around like that. I've actually had to cover my ears when some biker with no mufflers passes. It literally hurts the ears. Count me as one who is not impressed by it. Off my soap box now. tom ---- "rrengineer @dslextreme.com" wrote: ============= You definitely would not like my Harley Davidson with the aftermarket exhaust then Guy. It sets off car alarms at 100 feet when I really get on it, but I wear ear plugs. The ear plugs are more for the wind noise instead of the noise behind me. Mike MacLean 56 BN2 60 AN5 02 Heritage Springer On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:48 AM, Guy R Day wrote: > Here in the UK a loud vehicle exhaust sound in the street is generally seen > as a bad sign. It conjures up images of forever being stopped by the > Police, of potentially dangerous youth involvement (ie drugs, muggings, > thefts etc), of being a flash boy racer or fast uncontrolled driving. It is > always a source of amusement to read posts where having a loud exhaust note > is a requisite. Seeing some of the exhaust tail pipes that are larger than > the engine cylinder bore is also an amusing sight provided by 'yoof' who > cruise around in rather loud Jap cars. Bling rules in the street parade! > Please do not get me wrong, the sound of a well tuned exhaust note is > wonderful and despite living across town and 4 miles away from what was my > nearest car tuning centre I could still hear when they had a 'good' motor on > the rolling road. This was normally a single seat racecar on the third set > of rollers (Harry's set)that read up to 600bhp and if doing nothing else I'd > pop down there to see what it was. > > A loud exhaust note does not equate to the best power output and my > recommendation would be to thoroughly research exhaust tuning, especially > tuned length savaging systems for LBCs. > > Guy R Day Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net http://www.team.net/archive From bighealey3k at aim.com Wed Dec 30 15:16:06 2009 From: bighealey3k at aim.com (bighealey3k at aim.com) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:16:06 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] shelley jack with ebay item number In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CC57B4D0CCD709-1828-493C2@webmail-d030.sysops.aol.com> It is identical to mine and I'm the original owner of my '67 BJ8. It came in a black bag with a solid steel bar stock handle. Larry '67 BJ8 -----Original Message----- From: andy pole To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, Dec 30, 2009 3:47 pm Subject: [Healeys] shelley jack with ebay item number Hi Guys ebay item number : 230415824548 Anyone know what this jack is off? the seller seems to think its for the bj's ut I thought they had a strengthening collar and not a gusset (this looks ore like an e-type with the gusset, but the wrong pad on top?) Silly thing is I have one identical to this! cheers Andy ________________________________________________________________ ot more than one Hotmail account? Save time by linking them together http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/ Healeys at autox.team.net ttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as bighealey3k at aim.com http://www.team.net/archive From tomfelts at windstream.net Wed Dec 30 15:21:22 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:21:22 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] shelley jack with ebay item number In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20091230162122.6TWTT.47399.root@ispmxfep12-z02> Wouldn't fit my 66 E-Type. The original E jack is a rachet-type, "fan" looking with a small square piece on top that mates with the smaller square piece on the car. tom ---- andy pole wrote: ============= Hi Guys ebay item number : 230415824548 Anyone know what this jack is off? the seller seems to think its for the bj's but I thought they had a strengthening collar and not a gusset (this looks more like an e-type with the gusset, but the wrong pad on top?) Silly thing is I have one identical to this! cheers Andy _________________________________________________________________ Got more than one Hotmail account? Save time by linking them together http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/ Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net http://www.team.net/archive From sbyers at ec.rr.com Wed Dec 30 15:32:12 2009 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:32:12 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 1964 Austin Healey 3000 BJ-8 for sale on Dallas Criagslist In-Reply-To: <49BDEB4B-2140-43E5-AFD4-9368DE43351D@gmail.com> References: <49BDEB4B-2140-43E5-AFD4-9368DE43351D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <003001ca899f$ee97c690$cbc753b0$@rr.com> 552 total Phase 1 cars (chassis numbers from 25315 through 25704, inclusive) 55 right-hand drive 416 left-hand drive 81 where it is not recorded whether the car is left-hand or right-hand drive (most of these are in countries outside the USA and where I only have access to the chassis number, not the complete VIN). Of the 552, four are positively known to have been scrapped. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA From: Randy Hicks [mailto:Healey100M at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 4:46 PM To: BJ8Healeys Cc: Healey List Subject: Fwd: [Healeys] 1964 Austin Healey 3000 BJ-8 for sale on Dallas Criagslist Steve, just out of curiosity, how many Phase I do you have in the Registry? Randy Randy Hicks www.austinhealey100m.com '56 100 M '55 BN1 Dealer Le Mans '62 BN7 MkII '65 BJ8 '53 MGTD Healey100M at gmail.com Begin forwarded message: From: Randy Hicks Date: December 30, 2009 2:32:22 PM EST To: HealeyRick Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] 1964 Austin Healey 3000 BJ-8 for sale on Dallas Criagslist Yes, but he states that it was Healey Blue originally. It is however, one of only 1390 Phase I BJ8's built. They seem to be snapped up pretty quick. I wonder if he knows the rarity? Randy Randy Hicks www.austinhealey100m.com '56 100 M '55 BN1 Dealer Le Mans '62 BN7 MkII '65 BJ8 '53 MGTD Healey100M at gmail.com On Dec 30, 2009, at 1:14 PM, HealeyRick wrote: I would call that a non-factory exterior/interior color combination. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Wed, 12/30/09, Patton Dickson <57healey at gmail.com> wrote: From: Patton Dickson <57healey at gmail.com> Subject: [Healeys] 1964 Austin Healey 3000 BJ-8 for sale on Dallas Criagslist To: "Healey List" Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 11:35 AM This just posted on Dallas Craigslist, I don't know the car or owner, just forwarding it on http://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/ctd/1530379456.html Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as healey100m at gmail.com http://www.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as healey100m at gmail.com http://www.team.net/archive From awgertoo at aol.com Wed Dec 30 15:36:17 2009 From: awgertoo at aol.com (awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:36:17 EST Subject: [Healeys] Start of the Japanese Auto Industry Message-ID: <49e7.a377e64.386d2fe1@aol.com> In a message dated 12/30/2009 2:51:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jackson_krall at yahoo.com writes: Aside from a Berkley, I can't think of any smaller car. -------------------------------------------------- How about a Cyclops? Best--Michael Oritt From Healey100M at gmail.com Wed Dec 30 15:48:03 2009 From: Healey100M at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:48:03 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 1964 Austin Healey 3000 BJ-8 for sale on Dallas Criagslist In-Reply-To: References: <20091230140041.TOFWX.44315.root@ispmxfep12-z02> Message-ID: <761F2DB5-2837-4364-8274-154EB6CD47AA@gmail.com> For $26.8K? Randy On Dec 30, 2009, at 4:36 PM, Rich C wrote: > The car certainly needs a complete ground up, but it appears that metal wise at least, it should be pretty straight forward. This could be the makings of a really nice and correct Healey Blue Phase 1 BJ8. From ampole at hotmail.com Wed Dec 30 16:11:45 2009 From: ampole at hotmail.com (andy pole) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:11:45 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] shelley jack with ebay item number In-Reply-To: <8CC57B4D0CCD709-1828-493C2@webmail-d030.sysops.aol.com> References: , <8CC57B4D0CCD709-1828-493C2@webmail-d030.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Thanks Larry, thats 2 bj8's with the same jack, no-one seems to know if this type of LJ225 was used on any other car, here's some pic's of the others types, but not a match for the ones we have. Quite a few people seem to thing its a bj8 jack? Shame Rich agrees with the others who have told me its not correct, he's normally right! Perhaps yours being from new discounts the theory. http://www.mgaroadster.co.uk/shelley_jacks.htm cheers Andy To: ampole at hotmail.com; Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] shelley jack with ebay item number Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:16:06 -0500 From: bighealey3k at aim.com It is identical to mine and I'm the original owner of my '67 BJ8. It came in a black bag with a solid steel bar stock handle. Larry '67 BJ8 -----Original Message----- From: andy pole To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, Dec 30, 2009 3:47 pm Subject: [Healeys] shelley jack with ebay item number Hi Guys ebay item number : 230415824548 Anyone know what this jack is off? the seller seems to think its for the bj's but I thought they had a strengthening collar and not a gusset (this looks more like an e-type with the gusset, but the wrong pad on top?) Silly thing is I have one identical to this! cheers Andy _________________________________________________________________ Got more than one Hotmail account? Save time by linking them together http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/ Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as bighealey3k at aim.com http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Have more than one Hotmail account? Link them together to easily access both http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/ From richchrysler at quickclic.net Wed Dec 30 16:19:28 2009 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:19:28 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 1964 Austin Healey 3000 BJ-8 for sale on Dallas Criagslist References: <20091230140041.TOFWX.44315.root@ispmxfep12-z02> <761F2DB5-2837-4364-8274-154EB6CD47AA@gmail.com> Message-ID: I didn't say I agreed with the price. On the other hand I can see thousands saved on what won't be required metal wise. Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Hicks" To: "Rich C" Cc: "Tom Felts" ; "HealeyRick" ; Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] 1964 Austin Healey 3000 BJ-8 for sale on Dallas Criagslist For $26.8K? Randy On Dec 30, 2009, at 4:36 PM, Rich C wrote: > The car certainly needs a complete ground up, but it appears that metal > wise at least, it should be pretty straight forward. This could be the > makings of a really nice and correct Healey Blue Phase 1 BJ8. From healeyrick at yahoo.com Wed Dec 30 16:30:48 2009 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:30:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] 1964 Austin Healey 3000 BJ-8 for sale on Dallas Criagslist In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <269136.67121.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Remember guys, the silly season of "How Much Is This Healey Worth?" doesn't officially begin until after New Year's when the B-J auction is less than a month away. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Wed, 12/30/09, Rich C wrote: From: Rich C Subject: Re: [Healeys] 1964 Austin Healey 3000 BJ-8 for sale on Dallas Criagslist To: "Randy Hicks" Cc: "Tom Felts" , "HealeyRick" , healeys at autox.team.net Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 6:19 PM I didn't say I agreed with the price. On the other hand I can see thousands saved on what won't be required metal wise. Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Hicks" To: "Rich C" Cc: "Tom Felts" ; "HealeyRick" ; Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] 1964 Austin Healey 3000 BJ-8 for sale on Dallas Criagslist For $26.8K? Randy On Dec 30, 2009, at 4:36 PM, Rich C wrote: > The car certainly needs a complete ground up, but it appears that metal wise at least, it should be pretty straight forward. This could be the makings of a really nice and correct Healey Blue Phase 1 BJ8. From awgertoo at aol.com Wed Dec 30 16:36:19 2009 From: awgertoo at aol.com (awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:36:19 EST Subject: [Healeys] Muffler for Healey 100 Message-ID: <5514.80f39d6.386d3df3@aol.com> I know bikers claim they are a "safety item" but to my way of thinking they are simply an extra set of balls. Best--Michael Oritt -------------------------------------------- In a message dated 12/30/2009 6:27:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, tomfelts at windstream.net writes: the motorcycle noise such as straight pipes, no mufflers, etc From Healey100M at gmail.com Wed Dec 30 16:39:59 2009 From: Healey100M at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:39:59 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 1964 Austin Healey 3000 BJ-8 for sale on Dallas Criagslist In-Reply-To: <003001ca899f$ee97c690$cbc753b0$@rr.com> References: <49BDEB4B-2140-43E5-AFD4-9368DE43351D@gmail.com> <003001ca899f$ee97c690$cbc753b0$@rr.com> Message-ID: Are Registries great or what????? :-) Randy On Dec 30, 2009, at 5:32 PM, BJ8 Healeys wrote: > 552 total Phase 1 cars (chassis numbers from 25315 through 25704, inclusive) > 55 right-hand drive > 416 left-hand drive > 81 where it is not recorded whether the car is left-hand or right-hand drive > (most of these are in countries outside the USA and where I only have access > to the chassis number, not the complete VIN). > > Of the 552, four are positively known to have been scrapped. > > Steve Byers > HBJ8L/36666 > BJ8 Registry > Havelock, NC USA > > From: Randy Hicks [mailto:Healey100M at gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 4:46 PM > To: BJ8Healeys > Cc: Healey List > Subject: Fwd: [Healeys] 1964 Austin Healey 3000 BJ-8 for sale on Dallas > Criagslist > > Steve, just out of curiosity, how many Phase I do you have in the Registry? > > Randy > > Randy Hicks > www.austinhealey100m.com > '56 100 M > '55 BN1 Dealer Le Mans > '62 BN7 MkII > '65 BJ8 > '53 MGTD > Healey100M at gmail.com > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > > From: Randy Hicks > Date: December 30, 2009 2:32:22 PM EST > To: HealeyRick > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] 1964 Austin Healey 3000 BJ-8 for sale on Dallas > Criagslist > > Yes, but he states that it was Healey Blue originally. > > It is however, one of only 1390 Phase I BJ8's built. They seem to be snapped > up pretty quick. I wonder if he knows the rarity? > > Randy > > Randy Hicks > www.austinhealey100m.com > '56 100 M > '55 BN1 Dealer Le Mans > '62 BN7 MkII > '65 BJ8 > '53 MGTD > Healey100M at gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 30, 2009, at 1:14 PM, HealeyRick wrote: > > > > I would call that a non-factory exterior/interior color combination. > > Rick > > > > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > > --- On Wed, 12/30/09, Patton Dickson <57healey at gmail.com> wrote: > > From: Patton Dickson <57healey at gmail.com> > Subject: [Healeys] 1964 Austin Healey 3000 BJ-8 for sale on Dallas > Criagslist > > > To: "Healey List" > Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 11:35 AM > > This just posted on Dallas Craigslist, I don't know the car or owner, > just forwarding it on > > http://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/ctd/1530379456.html > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey100m at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey100m at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey100m at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From grday at btinternet.com Wed Dec 30 16:51:07 2009 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:51:07 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Muffler for Healey 100 References: <173126440912300024l3acaa056t51efd43d0f44950a@mail.gmail.com> <6AAE97B75B22447DB0324BBF34BE406A@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: <192490145E9649479B4EBD0CD392B726@user8634b3d69b> Hi Mike, Please do not get me wrong, the sound of a well tuned exhaust note is wonderful.... Are you saying yours isn't? Getting stopped by the traffic cops every time you pass them (that is if you can find a traffic cop over hear nowadays!) and getting a ticket may appeal to your sense of humour but I think the time spent off the road until my licence was returned by the Courts combined with the higher insurance costs may deter me. We also have a wonderful thing called the VDRS - the Vehicle Defect Rectification Scheme that stops you using the vehicle until it is legal in Police and/or Ministry eyes. If you get a couple of those your vehicle is confiscated anyway and you are left stood at the side of the road. All the best, Guy ps my post should have read scavaging systems for LBCs, not savaging systems for LBCs. ----- Original Message ----- Cc: Austin Healey Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Muffler for Healey 100 You definitely would not like my Harley Davidson with the aftermarket exhaust then Guy. It sets off car alarms at 100 feet when I really get on it, but I wear ear plugs. The ear plugs are more for the wind noise instead of the noise behind me. Mike MacLean 56 BN2 60 AN5 02 Heritage Springer On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:48 AM, Guy R Day wrote: Here in the UK a loud vehicle exhaust sound in the street is generally seen as a bad sign. It conjures up images of forever being stopped by the Police, of potentially dangerous youth involvement (ie drugs, muggings, thefts etc), of being a flash boy racer or fast uncontrolled driving. It is always a source of amusement to read posts where having a loud exhaust note is a requisite. Seeing some of the exhaust tail pipes that are larger than the engine cylinder bore is also an amusing sight provided by 'yoof' who cruise around in rather loud Jap cars. Bling rules in the street parade! Please do not get me wrong, the sound of a well tuned exhaust note is wonderful and despite living across town and 4 miles away from what was my nearest car tuning centre I could still hear when they had a 'good' motor on the rolling road. This was normally a single seat racecar on the third set of rollers (Harry's set)that read up to 600bhp and if doing nothing else I'd pop down there to see what it was. A loud exhaust note does not equate to the best power output and my recommendation would be to thoroughly research exhaust tuning, especially tuned length savaging systems for LBCs. Guy R Day From dwflagg at juno.com Wed Dec 30 17:53:08 2009 From: dwflagg at juno.com (dwflagg) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:53:08 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] SU Float Lid Nut Message-ID: <20091230.165333.10765.68357@mailpop07.dca.untd.com> Does anyone know the thread size for the SU float lid nut? TIA Doug ____________________________________________________________ Diet Help Cheap Diet Help Tips. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=ZiDghraHXIsYK8UgIpEDBAAAJ1B-9ttc3k1I_21D8YCzT29EAAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYQAAAAAA= From tomfelts at windstream.net Wed Dec 30 18:14:07 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:14:07 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Muffler for Healey 100 In-Reply-To: <5514.80f39d6.386d3df3@aol.com> Message-ID: <20091230191407.ENNCH.50591.root@ispmxfep12-z02> Yep---I call them a "rolling erection". ---- awgertoo at aol.com wrote: ============= I know bikers claim they are a "safety item" but to my way of thinking they are simply an extra set of balls. Best--Michael Oritt -------------------------------------------- In a message dated 12/30/2009 6:27:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, tomfelts at windstream.net writes: the motorcycle noise such as straight pipes, no mufflers, etc From awgertoo at aol.com Wed Dec 30 18:42:02 2009 From: awgertoo at aol.com (awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:42:02 EST Subject: [Healeys] Muffler for Healey 100 Message-ID: <6828.4a15a213.386d5b6a@aol.com> In a message dated 12/30/2009 7:59:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, grday at btinternet.com writes: Please do not get me wrong, the sound of a well tuned exhaust note is wonderful.... Are you saying yours isn't? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- Yes, I think that when I installed the whole system--the AL head, the tubular manifold and the DW exhaust it sounded better than it does now. It was always "loud" but now there is just too much going on--an unpleasant hollow raspiness and a LOT of "loud". It is of course impossible for me to quantitatively compare what the "loud" of 2002 is compared to the "loud" of 2009--perhaps some of it reflects a change of taste on my part, but bottom-line it is my car and I want it to be the way I want it to be. BTW in 2002 I did not have a hardtop whereas now I do--the hardtop definitely cuts down on noise in general and increases comfort--perhaps another reflection on some personal change--but the "loud" is an unpleasant "blatting" that prevents my enjoying music at revs unless I play it all the way up, and then when I come down to lower speeds I must turn down the audio. I'm not looking for perfection, just a more pleasant tone. The exhaust tone of my wife's BN7--very stock and also with a hardtop--is that classic Healey sweet tone. I don't think people have historically admired the Healey exhaust note because it was loud but rather because it was sweet, if a bit loud. I'll keep looking--thanks all for the input. Best--Michael Oritt From edriver at sasktel.net Wed Dec 30 19:38:39 2009 From: edriver at sasktel.net (E.A. Driver) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:38:39 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Muffler for Healey 100 In-Reply-To: <20091230191407.ENNCH.50591.root@ispmxfep12-z02> References: <20091230191407.ENNCH.50591.root@ispmxfep12-z02> Message-ID: <4B3C0EAF.9010005@sasktel.net> alway up for it Tom? Tom Felts wrote: > Yep---I call them a "rolling erection". > > > ---- awgertoo at aol.com wrote: > > ============= > > I know bikers claim they are a "safety item" but to my way of thinking they > are simply an extra set of balls. > > Best--Michael Oritt > -------------------------------------------- > > In a message dated 12/30/2009 6:27:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > tomfelts at windstream.net writes: > > the motorcycle noise such as straight pipes, no mufflers, etc > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as edriver at sasktel.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From bighealey3k at aim.com Wed Dec 30 19:53:35 2009 From: bighealey3k at aim.com (bighealey3k at aim.com) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:53:35 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] shelley jack with ebay item number In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8CC57DB93DF3A42-3784-1AA30@webmail-m071.sysops.aol.com> Andy, On second look at the jack on Ebay, I didn't see the second image showing the jack handle socket that is not correct for my jack. My jack is like the new jack in image #44 in your link http://www.mgaroadster.co.uk/shelley_jacks.htm. Is the jack on Ebay fully retracted (as mentioned in image #48)? Mine retracts fully as shown in #44. Sorry about the confusion. Larry '67 BJ8 -----Original Message----- From: andy pole To: bighealey3k at aim.com; healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:11 pm Subject: RE: [Healeys] shelley jack with ebay item number Thanks Larry, thats 2 bj8's with the same jack, no-one seems to know if this type of LJ225 was used on any other car, here's some pic's of the others types, but not a match for the ones we have. Quite a few people seem to thing its a bj8 jack? Shame Rich agrees with the others who have told me its not correct, he's normally right! Perhaps yours being from new discounts the theory. http://www.mgaroadster.co.uk/shelley_jacks.htm cheers Andy To: ampole at hotmail.com; Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] shelley jack with ebay item number Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:16:06 -0500 From: bighealey3k at aim.com It is identical to mine and I'm the original owner of my '67 BJ8. It came in a black bag with a solid steel bar stock handle. Larry '67 BJ8 -----Original Message----- From: andy pole To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, Dec 30, 2009 3:47 pm Subject: [Healeys] shelley jack with ebay item number Hi Guys ebay item number : 230415824548 Anyone know what this jack is off? the seller seems to think its for the bj's ut I thought they had a strengthening collar and not a gusset (this looks ore like an e-type with the gusset, but the wrong pad on top?) Silly thing is I have one identical to this! cheers Andy ________________________________________________________________ ot more than one Hotmail account? Save time by linking them together http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/ Healeys at autox.team.net ttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as bighealey3k at aim.com http://www.team.net/archive Add other email accounts to Hotmail in 3 easy steps. Find out how. = From 63ahbj7 at comcast.net Wed Dec 30 20:18:06 2009 From: 63ahbj7 at comcast.net (63ahbj7) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:18:06 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Muffler for Healey 100 In-Reply-To: <6828.4a15a213.386d5b6a@aol.com> References: <6828.4a15a213.386d5b6a@aol.com> Message-ID: <4B3C17EE.8000100@comcast.net> Does system exit the rear of somewhere on the side, Michael ?? Is your snail mail addy as per Membership Book ?? Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com From acmiller at mhcable.com Wed Dec 30 20:21:30 2009 From: acmiller at mhcable.com (allen c miller jr) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:21:30 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] stub axles Message-ID: <96E4E06E60CB4D0294869747FB295E6A@ACM030> have heard a lot about big Healey stub axles showing latent flaws when tested. do you have them magnafluxed or xrayed? also, if magnafluxed, does shot-peening seal the cracks so they cannot be properly visualized (as i was told by someone who who restores healeys)? if so, is there an easy alternative to removing paint and leaving the cracks open? lastly, can you rely on micrometer measurements at right angles to determine whether there is wear in the bronze bushings, or is there another method to check for kingpin laxity? am going to race a bn2, so i want to take extra precautions. thanks. allen miller From awgertoo at aol.com Wed Dec 30 20:34:54 2009 From: awgertoo at aol.com (awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:34:54 EST Subject: [Healeys] Hartop noise Message-ID: <76ba.3ad3d4e4.386d75de@aol.com> In a message dated 12/30/2009 10:13:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, britishcars at shaw.ca writes: Hi Michael, Michael's comment...."the hardtop definitely cuts down on noise in general and increases comfort" caught my attention. I've been thinking about a hardtop for quite some time but am nervous that it will INCREASE the interior noise. While you get increased wind noise with the top down, I think that the mechanical noise of the car is quiter with the top down than with the soft-top up. So, I assumed that with a hardtop, the interior noise would also be louder. Am in incorrect? Is the car quieter with a hardtop? In particular from a mechanical and exhaust point of view. Paul ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul-- I can only give you my personal experience with both my 100 and my wife's 3000: With the hardtop on noise of all kinds--mechanical, wind, exhaust, etc.--is definitely reduced and the discomfort caused by wind buffeting and long hours in the sun is also a memory. It is not only quieter but more comfortable with the hardtop mounted. And don't forget that the hardtops' mountings are semi-permanent (or less) and easily removed/remounted--ten minutes each way max with two people assuming good planning. Probably no more time than erecting a soft top from beginning to end though it does require a storage area for the hardtop and a second person, though the top on my 100 is so light that I really can do it by myself being careful in placement, etc. As you may guess I like hardtops. If you don't--and many are in that department--then the discussion becomes moot. Best--Michael From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Wed Dec 30 20:52:09 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:52:09 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Muffler for Healey 100 In-Reply-To: <4B3C0EAF.9010005@sasktel.net> References: <20091230191407.ENNCH.50591.root@ispmxfep12-z02> <4B3C0EAF.9010005@sasktel.net> Message-ID: Obviously, you gentlemen do not ride motorcycles, nor do you appreciate the fact of how a "quiet" motorcycle is quite invisible to most people in "cages" (cars to the 4 wheel vehicle types). I cannot tell you how many times I have been cut off in traffic by someone that simply does not "see" me when they take a left in front of me in oncoming traffic or a lane change in front of me. Before I changed the exhaust this happened all the time. I have cut the frequency of this occurance considerably by putting the louder pipes on my motorcycle. I have had people take a left turn while looking right at me, turn in front of my moving combined weight of 1000 pounds (only two brakes and two contact patches) because I don't register in their brain as a vehicle. I don't look like a car, so I must not be there. People in cars think that a motorcycle can stop on a dime. Little do they know. I have loud pipes for a better chance at survival. Of course, I like they way they sound too. What are you guys compensating for with your flashy sports cars? I don't really give a crap what you guys think of me or my motorcycle. I have been riding them as long as I have been driving Austin Healeys. (About 40 years) Even in an accident in your fifty year old car, you are safer than me on my exposed two wheel vehicle. I'll take any advantage I can get. People in glass houses... Mike MacLean 56 BN2 60 AN5 02 Heritage Springer (I'm safer in the first two, but it doesn't stop me from riding) > > Tom Felts wrote: > >> Yep---I call them a "rolling erection". >> >> >> >> > I know bikers claim they are a "safety item" but to my way of thinking >> they are simply an extra set of balls. >> Best--Michael Oritt >> -------------------------------------------- From awgertoo at aol.com Wed Dec 30 21:08:29 2009 From: awgertoo at aol.com (awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:08:29 EST Subject: [Healeys] Muffler for Healey 100 Message-ID: <7a3f.51e33102.386d7dbd@aol.com> In a message dated 12/30/2009 10:52:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, rrengineer at dslextreme.com writes: Obviously, you gentlemen do not ride motorcycles, nor do you appreciate the fact of how a "quiet" motorcycle is quite invisible to most people in "cages" Mike-- I have ridden them, you are right about how most car people have no sense of motorcycles' presence and that is why I don't ride them any more. Motorcycle/car accidents are very common here and you know who always loses. My personal feelings toward "loud pipes" are just my personal feelings: They definitely make riding safer for the biker who has them and they are definitely intrusive into the peace and quiet of the rest of the world. I live in Southern MD where Harleys--both big boys and sportsters--are extremely popular and all are equipped with loud pipes. If you live within a mile of route 2/4 get used to hearing their roar throughout the day and night. Then again Jap tuner cars with extremely loud mufflers driven by young males are almost as popular and just as noisy. Anyway, I started this string, it has inevitably moved far afield from the question I originally asked re a muffler for my 100 to make it quieter so can we either return to the topic or put the string to sleep? Best--Michael From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Wed Dec 30 21:29:17 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:29:17 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Muffler for Healey 100 In-Reply-To: <7a3f.51e33102.386d7dbd@aol.com> References: <7a3f.51e33102.386d7dbd@aol.com> Message-ID: Not to be a sourpuss, I have a stock steel muffler I intend to use on my BN2 restoration. Would like to experience the original sound experience first time with a big Healey. Mike MacLean On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 8:08 PM, wrote: > In a message dated 12/30/2009 10:52:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > rrengineer at dslextreme.com writes: > > Obviously, you gentlemen do not ride motorcycles, nor do you appreciate the > fact of how a "quiet" motorcycle is quite invisible to most people in > "cages" > > Mike-- > > I have ridden them, you are right about how most car people have no sense > of motorcycles' presence and that is why I don't ride them any more. > Motorcycle/car accidents are very common here and you know who always loses. > > My personal feelings toward "loud pipes" are just my personal feelings: > They definitely make riding safer for the biker who has them and they are > definitely intrusive into the peace and quiet of the rest of the world. I > live in Southern MD where Harleys--both big boys and sportsters--are > extremely popular and all are equipped with loud pipes. If you live within > a mile of route 2/4 get used to hearing their roar throughout the day and > night. Then again Jap tuner cars with extremely loud mufflers driven by > young males are almost as popular and just as noisy. > > Anyway, I started this string, it has inevitably moved far afield from the > question I originally asked re a muffler for my 100 to make it quieter so > can we either return to the topic or put the string to sleep? > > Best--Michael From bspidell at comcast.net Wed Dec 30 22:16:37 2009 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:16:37 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Bike mufflers Was: Re: Muffler for Healey 100 In-Reply-To: References: <20091230191407.ENNCH.50591.root@ispmxfep12-z02> <4B3C0EAF.9010005@sasktel.net> Message-ID: <4B3C33B5.3040505@comcast.net> FWIW, I got nothing against bikes/bikers--my best friend rides--and I go out of my way to give them a break (when I see them). But, I've pulled out in front of a couple bikes I didn't see; these bikes were coming at me and I don't think loud pipes did/would help at all, since the noise is largely behind them (there's some acoustic physics at play here, but I won't pretend to understand them). I think loud pipes as a safety feature is overstated. Just my opinion, based on my observations. bs rrengineer @dslextreme.com wrote: > Obviously, you gentlemen do not ride motorcycles, nor do you appreciate the > fact of how a "quiet" motorcycle is quite invisible to most people in > "cages" (cars to the 4 wheel vehicle types). I cannot tell you how many > times I have been cut off in traffic by someone that simply does not "see" > me when they take a left in front of me in oncoming traffic or a lane change > in front of me. Before I changed the exhaust this happened all the time. I > have cut the frequency of this occurance considerably by putting the louder > pipes on my motorcycle. I have had people take a left turn while looking > right at me, turn in front of my moving combined weight of 1000 pounds (only > two brakes and two contact patches) because I don't register in their brain > as a vehicle. I don't look like a car, so I must not be there. People in > cars think that a motorcycle can stop on a dime. Little do they know. I > have loud pipes for a better chance at survival. Of course, I like they way > they sound too. What are you guys compensating for with your flashy sports > cars? I don't really give a crap what you guys think of me or my > motorcycle. I have been riding them as long as I have been driving Austin > Healeys. (About 40 years) Even in an accident in your fifty year old car, > you are safer than me on my exposed two wheel vehicle. I'll take any > advantage I can get. People in glass houses... > Mike MacLean > 56 BN2 > 60 AN5 > 02 Heritage Springer (I'm safer in the first two, but it doesn't stop me > from riding) > > > > ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Wed Dec 30 22:20:45 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:20:45 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Bike mufflers Was: Re: Muffler for Healey 100 In-Reply-To: <4B3C33B5.3040505@comcast.net> References: <20091230191407.ENNCH.50591.root@ispmxfep12-z02> <4B3C0EAF.9010005@sasktel.net> <4B3C33B5.3040505@comcast.net> Message-ID: Bob, You may be right is many cases, but if they are loud enough... In California it is legal to split lanes on the freeway. I have had slow moving cars widen the space btween them several cars back when I am doing this. I have also had people purposely tighten up the space because they either are jealous of me getting ahead in slow moving traffic, don't like motorcycles or are just assholes. Mike On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: > FWIW, I got nothing against bikes/bikers--my best friend rides--and I go > out of my way to give them a break (when I see them). But, I've pulled out > in front of a couple bikes I didn't see; these bikes were coming at me and I > don't think loud pipes did/would help at all, since the noise is largely > behind them (there's some acoustic physics at play here, but I won't pretend > to understand them). > > I think loud pipes as a safety feature is overstated. Just my opinion, > based on my observations. > > > bs > > > > rrengineer @dslextreme.com wrote: > >> Obviously, you gentlemen do not ride motorcycles, nor do you appreciate >> the >> fact of how a "quiet" motorcycle is quite invisible to most people in >> "cages" (cars to the 4 wheel vehicle types). I cannot tell you how many >> times I have been cut off in traffic by someone that simply does not "see" >> me when they take a left in front of me in oncoming traffic or a lane >> change >> in front of me. Before I changed the exhaust this happened all the time. >> I >> have cut the frequency of this occurance considerably by putting the >> louder >> pipes on my motorcycle. I have had people take a left turn while looking >> right at me, turn in front of my moving combined weight of 1000 pounds >> (only >> two brakes and two contact patches) because I don't register in their >> brain >> as a vehicle. I don't look like a car, so I must not be there. People >> in >> cars think that a motorcycle can stop on a dime. Little do they know. I >> have loud pipes for a better chance at survival. Of course, I like they >> way >> they sound too. What are you guys compensating for with your flashy >> sports >> cars? I don't really give a crap what you guys think of me or my >> motorcycle. I have been riding them as long as I have been driving Austin >> Healeys. (About 40 years) Even in an accident in your fifty year old car, >> you are safer than me on my exposed two wheel vehicle. I'll take any >> advantage I can get. People in glass houses... >> Mike MacLean >> 56 BN2 >> 60 AN5 >> 02 Heritage Springer (I'm safer in the first two, but it doesn't stop me >> from riding) >> >> >> >> >> > ******************************************************************* > Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net > > ******************************************************************* From austin.healey at gmail.com Wed Dec 30 22:25:25 2009 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:25:25 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Start of the Japanese Auto Industry In-Reply-To: <49e7.a377e64.386d2fe1@aol.com> References: <49e7.a377e64.386d2fe1@aol.com> Message-ID: <49960CF9-CAAA-40A0-905E-EB39BC5F2291@gmail.com> How about the Goggomobil Dart? http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goggomobil_Dart :-) Happy New Years Eve Chris Sent from my iPhone On 31/12/2009, at 9:36 AM, awgertoo at aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 12/30/2009 2:51:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > jackson_krall at yahoo.com writes: > > Aside from a Berkley, I can't think of any smaller car. > ----------------------------------------------- > > > How about a Cyclops? From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Dec 30 22:41:59 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:41:59 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Muffler for Healey 100 In-Reply-To: References: <20091230191407.ENNCH.50591.root@ispmxfep12-z02> <4B3C0EAF.9010005@sasktel.net> Message-ID: I guess you're a different breed than the a-hole that was revving his Harley full blast in front of a bar for about 15 minutes at 1 am about two blocks from the White House when I was in DC early last year. I am sure the President was impressed. I also always enjoy visiting my mechanic, the mechanic next door fixes British motorcycles and as a result I can never have a normal uninterrupted conversation with my car mechanic. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 11:52 AM, rrengineer @dslextreme.com < rrengineer at dslextreme.com> wrote: > Obviously, you gentlemen do not ride motorcycles, nor do you appreciate the > fact of how a "quiet" motorcycle is quite invisible to most people in > "cages" (cars to the 4 wheel vehicle types). I cannot tell you how many > times I have been cut off in traffic by someone that simply does not "see" > me when they take a left in front of me in oncoming traffic or a lane > change > in front of me. Before I changed the exhaust this happened all the time. > I > have cut the frequency of this occurance considerably by putting the louder > pipes on my motorcycle. I have had people take a left turn while looking > right at me, turn in front of my moving combined weight of 1000 pounds > (only > two brakes and two contact patches) because I don't register in their brain > as a vehicle. I don't look like a car, so I must not be there. People in > cars think that a motorcycle can stop on a dime. Little do they know. I > have loud pipes for a better chance at survival. Of course, I like they > way > they sound too. What are you guys compensating for with your flashy sports > cars? I don't really give a crap what you guys think of me or my > motorcycle. I have been riding them as long as I have been driving Austin > Healeys. (About 40 years) Even in an accident in your fifty year old car, > you are safer than me on my exposed two wheel vehicle. I'll take any > advantage I can get. People in glass houses... > Mike MacLean > 56 BN2 > 60 AN5 > 02 Heritage Springer (I'm safer in the first two, but it doesn't stop me > from riding) > > > > > > > Tom Felts wrote: > > > >> Yep---I call them a "rolling erection". > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > I know bikers claim they are a "safety item" but to my way of thinking > >> they are simply an extra set of balls. > >> Best--Michael Oritt > >> -------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Dec 30 22:53:21 2009 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:53:21 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] shelley jack with ebay item number In-Reply-To: <8CC57DB93DF3A42-3784-1AA30@webmail-m071.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC57DB93DF3A42-3784-1AA30@webmail-m071.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Larry - Very interesting website. It is clear to me that this website owner does, in fact, "know jack." Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '59 Jag Mk IX '64 BJ8 On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 10:53 AM, wrote: > Andy, On second look at the jack on Ebay, I didn't see the second image > showing the jack handle socket that is not correct for my jack. My jack is > like the new jack in image #44 in your link > http://www.mgaroadster.co.uk/shelley_jacks.htm. Is the jack on Ebay fully > retracted (as mentioned in image #48)? Mine retracts fully as shown in > #44. > Sorry about the confusion. > > Larry > '67 BJ8 From cnaarndt at gmail.com Wed Dec 30 23:52:31 2009 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:52:31 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] SU Float Lid Nut In-Reply-To: <20091230.165333.10765.68357@mailpop07.dca.untd.com> References: <20091230.165333.10765.68357@mailpop07.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <751d05480912302252g2bacffc0x27462394dbb6584f@mail.gmail.com> Doug, Just off the top of my head I think it's 1/4 BSF but that's just a WAG. I'll check in the AM. Cheers, Curt On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 4:53 PM, dwflagg wrote: > Does anyone know the thread size for the SU float lid nut? TIA > > Doug > ____________________________________________________________ > Diet Help > Cheap Diet Help Tips. Click here. > > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=ZiDghraHXIsYK8UgIpEDBAAAJ1B-9ttc3k1I_21D8YCzT29EAAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYQAAAAAA= > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as cnaarndt at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Thu Dec 31 02:30:31 2009 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 10:30:31 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] shelley jack with ebay item number In-Reply-To: References: , <8CC57B4D0CCD709-1828-493C2@webmail-d030.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3D888DE@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> Just a question to the experts on jacks. The second jack "6 INCH", "DL" on http://www.mgaroadster.co.uk/shelley_jacks.htm Is this the right jack for a 100 BN1? I mean is the L-shape the right one ? or is the L-shape as in this picture for earlier jacks (pre 1950s) and it should be a different L-shape like the later LJ23, LJ21 shelley jacks had. And for what production period of BN1s (years/months) would it be the right jack? Or better, would this jack ("6 INCH", "DL") as shown in the second picture be Concours acceptable for a May 1954 BN1? Thanks, Josef Eckert Konigswinter/GERMANY From gbrierton at hotmail.com Thu Dec 31 04:10:34 2009 From: gbrierton at hotmail.com (gary brierton) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 06:10:34 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Muffler for Healey 100 In-Reply-To: <6828.4a15a213.386d5b6a@aol.com> References: <6828.4a15a213.386d5b6a@aol.com> Message-ID: Hi Michael, The Silver Bullet (BJ8) has a tail pipe & muffler system fabricated by a local muffler guy incorporating two mufflers that seem to me to be identical to the 1950's "Cherry Bombs" or glass packs. The sound is very close to what I remember from my original BJ8's in the '60's. No blatting or back-fires on deceleration. We kept both pipes on the left side all the way to the end. Pretty good ground clearance and lots of ++ comments from other old Healey guys. GaryB -------------------------------------------------- From: Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 8:42 PM To: ; Cc: Subject: Re: [Healeys] Muffler for Healey 100 > In a message dated 12/30/2009 7:59:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > grday at btinternet.com writes: > > Please do not get me wrong, the sound of a well tuned exhaust note is > wonderful.... Are you saying yours isn't? > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------- > > > Yes, I think that when I installed the whole system--the AL head, the > tubular manifold and the DW exhaust it sounded better than it does now. > It was > always "loud" but now there is just too much going on--an unpleasant > hollow > raspiness and a LOT of "loud". > > It is of course impossible for me to quantitatively compare what the > "loud" > of 2002 is compared to the "loud" of 2009--perhaps some of it reflects a > change of taste on my part, but bottom-line it is my car and I want it to > be > the way I want it to be. BTW in 2002 I did not have a hardtop whereas > now I do--the hardtop definitely cuts down on noise in general and > increases > comfort--perhaps another reflection on some personal change--but the > "loud" > is an unpleasant "blatting" that prevents my enjoying music at revs > unless > I play it all the way up, and then when I come down to lower speeds I > must > turn down the audio. > > I'm not looking for perfection, just a more pleasant tone. The exhaust > tone of my wife's BN7--very stock and also with a hardtop--is that > classic > Healey sweet tone. I don't think people have historically admired the > Healey > exhaust note because it was loud but rather because it was sweet, if a > bit > loud. > > I'll keep looking--thanks all for the input. > > Best--Michael Oritt > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as gbrierton at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From j.aeckerlin at gmail.com Thu Dec 31 04:34:29 2009 From: j.aeckerlin at gmail.com (Jaap Aeckerlin) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:34:29 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Muffler for Healey 100 In-Reply-To: References: <173126440912300024l3acaa056t51efd43d0f44950a@mail.gmail.com> <6AAE97B75B22447DB0324BBF34BE406A@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: <4e23c7250912310334v7b18fb71j61eea89351b82ff1@mail.gmail.com> Guys, although I'm not an enthusiast acclaimer of many of our traffic laws, there is one which I like and that is that exhaust systems on bikes (and cars) may not be changed for louder systems. If a motorbike makes too much noise, like a Harley with 'scaffolding pipes' , as we call the straight exhaust pipes, and it attracts the attention of our police, the biker is told to change his exhaust back into its original state, i.e. the state in which the bike was when it received its 'type approval' (=as it left the factory). The bike documents are confiscated and only given back to the owner when he shows up at the police station with the quiter bike. I don't say this puts a stop to louder exhausts, but it does help. And finally: a very loud HAPPY NEW YEAR to all listers! Jack Aeckerlin, The Netherlands 1964 BJ8 29432 1984 BMW K100 RT (which is a quiet motorbike) 2009/12/30 rrengineer @dslextreme.com > You definitely would not like my Harley Davidson with the aftermarket > exhaust then Guy. It sets off car alarms at 100 feet when I really get on > it, but I wear ear plugs. The ear plugs are more for the wind noise > instead > of the noise behind me. > Mike MacLean > 56 BN2 > 60 AN5 > 02 Heritage Springer > > On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:48 AM, Guy R Day wrote: > > > Here in the UK a loud vehicle exhaust sound in the street is generally > seen > > as a bad sign. It conjures up images of forever being stopped by the > > Police, of potentially dangerous youth involvement (ie drugs, muggings, > > thefts etc), of being a flash boy racer or fast uncontrolled driving. It > is > > always a source of amusement to read posts where having a loud exhaust > note > > is a requisite. Seeing some of the exhaust tail pipes that are larger > than > > the engine cylinder bore is also an amusing sight provided by 'yoof' who > > cruise around in rather loud Jap cars. Bling rules in the street parade! > > Please do not get me wrong, the sound of a well tuned exhaust note is > > wonderful and despite living across town and 4 miles away from what was > my > > nearest car tuning centre I could still hear when they had a 'good' motor > on > > the rolling road. This was normally a single seat racecar on the third > set > > of rollers (Harry's set)that read up to 600bhp and if doing nothing else > I'd > > pop down there to see what it was. > > > > A loud exhaust note does not equate to the best power output and my > > recommendation would be to thoroughly research exhaust tuning, especially > > tuned length savaging systems for LBCs. > > > > Guy R Day > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as j.aeckerlin at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From tomfelts at windstream.net Thu Dec 31 06:41:46 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 7:41:46 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Muffler for Healey 100 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20091231074146.7S0R6.55860.root@ispmxfep14-z02> PS---I have on and ride occasionally myself. ---- "rrengineer @dslextreme.com" wrote: ============= Obviously, you gentlemen do not ride motorcycles, nor do you appreciate the fact of how a "quiet" motorcycle is quite invisible to most people in "cages" (cars to the 4 wheel vehicle types). I cannot tell you how many times I have been cut off in traffic by someone that simply does not "see" me when they take a left in front of me in oncoming traffic or a lane change in front of me. Before I changed the exhaust this happened all the time. I have cut the frequency of this occurance considerably by putting the louder pipes on my motorcycle. I have had people take a left turn while looking right at me, turn in front of my moving combined weight of 1000 pounds (only two brakes and two contact patches) because I don't register in their brain as a vehicle. I don't look like a car, so I must not be there. People in cars think that a motorcycle can stop on a dime. Little do they know. I have loud pipes for a better chance at survival. Of course, I like they way they sound too. What are you guys compensating for with your flashy sports cars? I don't really give a crap what you guys think of me or my motorcycle. I have been riding them as long as I have been driving Austin Healeys. (About 40 years) Even in an accident in your fifty year old car, you are safer than me on my exposed two wheel vehicle. I'll take any advantage I can get. People in glass houses... Mike MacLean 56 BN2 60 AN5 02 Heritage Springer (I'm safer in the first two, but it doesn't stop me from riding) > > Tom Felts wrote: > >> Yep---I call them a "rolling erection". >> >> >> >> > I know bikers claim they are a "safety item" but to my way of thinking >> they are simply an extra set of balls. >> Best--Michael Oritt >> -------------------------------------------- From kentmclean at comcast.net Thu Dec 31 06:49:50 2009 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 08:49:50 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Muffler for Healey 100 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B3CABFE.1030007@comcast.net> rrengineer wrote: > Obviously, you gentlemen do not ride motorcycles, nor do you appreciate > the fact of how a "quiet" motorcycle is quite invisible to most people in > "cages" (cars to the 4 wheel vehicle types). It is true motorcycles that are invisible. You can test your own awareness: I failed. How'd you do? -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 '93 BMW R1100RS From tomfelts at windstream.net Thu Dec 31 06:49:22 2009 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 7:49:22 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Muffler for Healey 100 In-Reply-To: <7a3f.51e33102.386d7dbd@aol.com> Message-ID: <20091231074922.ED8U7.56002.root@ispmxfep14-z02> BTW, I have one and ride it occasionally----with quite pipes. I have taken my other comments off line. Agree--the topic should be closed. tom ---- awgertoo at aol.com wrote: ============= In a message dated 12/30/2009 10:52:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, rrengineer at dslextreme.com writes: Obviously, you gentlemen do not ride motorcycles, nor do you appreciate the fact of how a "quiet" motorcycle is quite invisible to most people in "cages" Mike-- I have ridden them, you are right about how most car people have no sense of motorcycles' presence and that is why I don't ride them any more. Motorcycle/car accidents are very common here and you know who always loses. My personal feelings toward "loud pipes" are just my personal feelings: They definitely make riding safer for the biker who has them and they are definitely intrusive into the peace and quiet of the rest of the world. I live in Southern MD where Harleys--both big boys and sportsters--are extremely popular and all are equipped with loud pipes. If you live within a mile of route 2/4 get used to hearing their roar throughout the day and night. Then again Jap tuner cars with extremely loud mufflers driven by young males are almost as popular and just as noisy. Anyway, I started this string, it has inevitably moved far afield from the question I originally asked re a muffler for my 100 to make it quieter so can we either return to the topic or put the string to sleep? Best--Michael From richchrysler at quickclic.net Thu Dec 31 07:28:03 2009 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 09:28:03 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Muffler for Healey 100 References: <7a3f.51e33102.386d7dbd@aol.com> Message-ID: <419781B411FE49A393D0DAC5B73D49D0@LIFEBOOK> I hate to burst everyone's bubble regarding the mufflers we fit to our cars, but they were originally fitted with mufflers manufactured by Burgess Silencers. These were made of mild steel but the ones made for the Hundred, the 100/Six and the 3000 up to the BJ8 were flat on the top and bottom, very heavy duty construction and were wonderfully quiet. When I got into Healeys in the early 1970's the replacements that were available to us from then and for years now were a horrible thing manufactured by Harmo, Walker, etc. These are readily recognizable as being distinctly oval in cross section, losing the original flat shape on the top and bottom that the Burgess had. This of course lost us almost an inch of ground clearance as well as being louder right from new. I was able to find a n.o.s original 2 in / 2 out Burgess muffler in the early '80's and installed it on my restoration of HBT7L 18718, a tricarb completed in summer 1982. It tucked up nicely under the car, and had a relatively classy smooth mellow sound when accelerating up through the rev ranges, not a raspy loud whine that folks have come to believe was original. Another example of the years, popular opinion and poor memory gradually changing the facts. Sure wish a manufacturer would find a Burgess muffler, dissect it, copy it in every detail and manufacture them for sale. Mike would then have exactly what he's looking for. Rich Chrysler Subject: Re: [Healeys] Muffler for Healey 100 > Not to be a sourpuss, I have a stock steel muffler I intend to use on my > BN2 > restoration. Would like to experience the original sound experience first > time with a big Healey. > Mike MacLean From msalter at precisionsportscar.com Thu Dec 31 08:13:18 2009 From: msalter at precisionsportscar.com (Michael Salter) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 10:13:18 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] stub axles In-Reply-To: <96E4E06E60CB4D0294869747FB295E6A@ACM030> References: <96E4E06E60CB4D0294869747FB295E6A@ACM030> Message-ID: <137229b0912310713y3bdbc54bq72b14c54a5d4535@mail.gmail.com> Hi Allen, Having suffered a stub axle failure while racing a Healey I can appreciate your concern. Many years ago I had every Healey and MG stub axle that I owned crack tested. More than half the Healey ones (8 of the 15) tested were cracked. Of the ones that I had to disassemble to have tested 3 of the 4 where the spacer and shims had previously been removed were cracked. None of the MGB ones (12), or for that matter late BJ8 ones (only 2), were cracked. I know this is no where near sufficient quantity constitute conclusive study but the trend is obvious. Although Steve Byer disagrees with me on this I firmly believe that the spacer and shims contribute significantly to the rigidity of the stub axle and, as a result, limit the flexing at its root. This in turn substantially reduces their exposure to stress related cracking. I would definitely use penetrant or Magnaflux testing before shot-peening as the compressive stress area just below the surface could indeed mask an existing crack. Although I've had only minimal experiance with it I would suspect that Xray testing would still show a preexisting crack after shot peening but I would deffer that to someone with more experience with Xray testing. I had so little confidence in the strength of the Healey stub axle design that I switched to MGB stub axles when I build AHX12 for rallying. http://www.acmefluid.com.au/larry/ahx12.html Hope that helps Michael Salter On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 10:21 PM, allen c miller jr wrote: > have heard a lot about big Healey stub axles showing latent flaws when > tested. > do you have them magnafluxed or xrayed? also, if magnafluxed, does > shot-peening seal the cracks so they cannot be properly visualized (as i > was > told by someone who who restores healeys)? if so, is there an easy > alternative > to removing paint and leaving the cracks open? lastly, can you rely on > micrometer measurements at right angles to determine whether there is wear > in > the bronze bushings, or is there another method to check for kingpin > laxity? > am going to race a bn2, so i want to take extra precautions. > > thanks. allen miller > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as msalter at precisionsportscar.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From mgcharlie at comcast.net Thu Dec 31 08:20:14 2009 From: mgcharlie at comcast.net (Charlie Baldwin) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 10:20:14 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Muffler for Healey 100 In-Reply-To: <20091231074146.7S0R6.55860.root@ispmxfep14-z02> References: <20091231074146.7S0R6.55860.root@ispmxfep14-z02> Message-ID: <4B3CC12E.3060805@comcast.net> You guys haven't lived until you try to sleep with your bedroom 30' from the main street when the Harley open house happens here at the end of Sept. each year. There are upwards of 5,000 Harleys in town and they ride up and down 'til the wee hours bar hopping. I don't complain, just wear ear plugs to bed that Friday night. The Harley plant employs a lot of people and we almost lost them this year to another location. Even so, they will be laying off half the workforce. The open house also brings a lot of commerce to the area, so being against a night or two of noisy motorcycles is stupid and selfish. Charlie York, PA Tom Felts wrote: > PS---I have on and ride occasionally myself. > > > ---- "rrengineer @dslextreme.com" wrote: > > ============= > Obviously, you gentlemen do not ride motorcycles, nor do you appreciate the > fact of how a "quiet" motorcycle is quite invisible to most people in > "cages" (cars to the 4 wheel vehicle types). I cannot tell you how many > times I have been cut off in traffic by someone that simply does not "see" > me when they take a left in front of me in oncoming traffic or a lane change > in front of me. Before I changed the exhaust this happened all the time. I > have cut the frequency of this occurance considerably by putting the louder > pipes on my motorcycle. I have had people take a left turn while looking > right at me, turn in front of my moving combined weight of 1000 pounds (only > two brakes and two contact patches) because I don't register in their brain > as a vehicle. I don't look like a car, so I must not be there. People in > cars think that a motorcycle can stop on a dime. Little do they know. I > have loud pipes for a better chance at survival. Of course, I like they way > they sound too. What are you guys compensating for with your flashy sports > cars? I don't really give a crap what you guys think of me or my > motorcycle. I have been riding them as long as I have been driving Austin > Healeys. (About 40 years) Even in an accident in your fifty year old car, > you are safer than me on my exposed two wheel vehicle. I'll take any > advantage I can get. People in glass houses... > Mike MacLean > 56 BN2 > 60 AN5 > 02 Heritage Springer (I'm safer in the first two, but it doesn't stop me > from riding) > > > > >> Tom Felts wrote: >> >> >>> Yep---I call them a "rolling erection". >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > > >> I know bikers claim they are a "safety item" but to my way of thinking >> >>> they are simply an extra set of balls. >>> Best--Michael Oritt >>> -------------------------------------------- >>> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as mgcharlie at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of mgcharlie.vcf] From rdryman1 at yahoo.com Thu Dec 31 08:26:20 2009 From: rdryman1 at yahoo.com (Richard Dryman) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 07:26:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Muffler for Healey 100 In-Reply-To: References: <6828.4a15a213.386d5b6a@aol.com> Message-ID: <63569.57257.qm@web110308.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Totally concur with Gary's installation of 'glasspacks' for the Healey{have looked at his and he at mine}. Problem with the current original replacement mufflers is metal thickness and construction methods. I had a NEW orig type (BJ7) & the thin metal, etc. cause resonance vibration in the interior. Earplugs were necessary; altho I had run this type of muffler and pipes for the previous 20+ years without a problem. We know the installation is dual and not single as 100, but this all is for general info. To keep from having to redo the down pipes and tailpipes spacings[distance apart] I installed 4 glasspacks; these are 12" body length( to give total orig length for hanging),3" diameter, and have 1 3/4" pipes. The smallest you can get with longer glasspacks is 2" pipes with a 4" total body diameter; problem is this is too wide for original configuration and puts them closer to the road. Certainly you have to use transition reducers (welded) and weld the mufflers together with hanger tabs(they use original hangers in original location). The result is an original sound if not even louder--BUT the sound isat the rear of the Healey, NOT in the interior. Remember the original mufflers were much thicker metal with pinched and welded corners, not the thin and 'rolled' construction of today with their resonance vibrations. The glasspack housings are probably twice as thick and the front (and rear) are tapered preventing total destruction if obstacles are hit on the road. Perhaps this is an alternate installation for your consideration. I wouldn't change at all--earplugs aren't stylish. This size glasspack isn't easy to find: JC Whitney item MS222813Y. You can see this installation at the following link (photos #5 AND # 9). >>>> http://picasaweb.google.com/rdryman/AusTinHeaLey#5221435380754446706 ________________________________ From: gary brierton To: awgertoo at aol.com Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, December 31, 2009 6:10:34 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Muffler for Healey 100 Hi Michael, The Silver Bullet (BJ8) has a tail pipe & muffler system fabricated by a local muffler guy incorporating two mufflers that seem to me to be identical to the 1950's "Cherry Bombs" or glass packs. The sound is very close to what I remember from my original BJ8's in the '60's. No blatting or back-fires on deceleration. We kept both pipes on the left side all the way to the end. Pretty good ground clearance and lots of ++ comments from other old Healey guys. GaryB From robertlarson at att.net Thu Dec 31 08:29:03 2009 From: robertlarson at att.net (Bob) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 10:29:03 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Bike mufflers Was: Re: Muffler for Healey 100 In-Reply-To: References: <20091230191407.ENNCH.50591.root@ispmxfep12-z02> <4B3C0EAF.9010005@sasktel.net> <4B3C33B5.3040505@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4B3CC33F.6070204@att.net> Lane splitting in not legal in NJ. However, many years ago when doing it in traffic in Newark, NJ I had an A-H, he was also a MF'er, open the door in front of me at the last second. Stopped past the door opening but short of the door. Bob 62,79,06 Triumph 60 Matchless 65 Royal Enfield 64 Norton and others from Austin Healey Land... rrengineer @dslextreme.com wrote: > Bob, > You may be right is many cases, but if they are loud enough... In > California it is legal to split lanes on the freeway. I have had slow > moving cars widen the space btween them several cars back when I am doing > this. I have also had people purposely tighten up the space because they > either are jealous of me getting ahead in slow moving traffic, don't like > motorcycles or are just assholes. > Mike > > On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: From RonFineEsq at earthlink.net Thu Dec 31 10:27:39 2009 From: RonFineEsq at earthlink.net (Ron Fine) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 09:27:39 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Muffler for Healey 100 References: <7a3f.51e33102.386d7dbd@aol.com> <419781B411FE49A393D0DAC5B73D49D0@LIFEBOOK> Message-ID: <246D7BE9263E40BEA900D6AB445EFE4C@XPS400> When I completed the restoration of my BN7 I was very unhappy with the loud sound from the new Moss supplied mild steel muffler. I wanted a quieter muffler due to my age and my efforts to protect what is left of my hearing. After experimenting with several different mufflers I got a mild steel muffler manufactured by Bell. Much quieter than the others and well made. Happy New Year Ron Fine From sbyers at ec.rr.com Thu Dec 31 11:38:27 2009 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:38:27 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] stub axles, Part 1 Message-ID: <000e01ca8a48$717df900$5479eb00$@rr.com> After I retired from my job as engineering supervisor for the U.S. Navy H-3 Sea King helicopter design and maintenance engineering group, I became Engineering Manager for a commercial contractor supervising 5 structural design engineers. These engineers used the Pro Engineer structural design software suite on a daily basis to design modifications for Coast Guard, U.S. Navy, and U. S. Army helicopters. It was my hope and plan that they could help me perform a finite element analysis of the BJ8 stub axle and bearing assembly with and without the spacer and shims installed, so we could resolve the question of the effect of the spacer/shims on the stub axle strength, once and for all. The problem I had was that I did not have the physical dimensions of the splined hub adapter and the internal stack-up of parts that could be used as input to the analysis. After Hemphill's Healey Haven stuck with me with an unusable brand-new splined right front hub adapter (incorrectly machined, causing a wobble in the rotor) and refused to make good on it, I decided to section the adapter so that a cross-section of the total assembly could be obtained. With this, I was going to feed it to one of the structural design engineers and have him do the analysis. Unfortunately for that, it was about at this point that I decided to retire again and I no longer had access to the engineering expertise or software to get the analysis done. However, I did submit measurements and photos to get the technical opinion of all five of the engineers. Unanimously, they agreed that while the spacer and bearing stack-up would add some small amount of stiffness to the assembly, it was not enough to have any significant effect on either the strength or strain (flexing) at the root of the stub axle. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA From sbyers at ec.rr.com Thu Dec 31 11:39:30 2009 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:39:30 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] stub axles, Part 2 Message-ID: <000f01ca8a48$971e1550$c55a3ff0$@rr.com> In the absence of any formal analysis of this issue, we are just going to have to agree to disagree. Until that is done, it's all anecdotal evidence and becomes just a matter of opinion. By the way, years ago there was a member of this list who was a Timken bearing engineer. He agreed that the purpose of the spacer and shims was only to pre-load the bearings more precisely and remove the inherent free play that allows the bearings to be assembled. Any inspection (Magnaflux, fluorescent penetrant, or X-ray) for cracks in the stub axle should be done before the surface is shot peened. Shot peening is done to cause compressive stresses in the surface and a little below the surface. This effectively strengthens the part because tensile stresses that lead to cracking must overcome the compressive stresses before the tensiles have any effect. It doesn't make a lot of sense to shot peen an item that already has cracks. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA From sbyers at ec.rr.com Thu Dec 31 11:41:07 2009 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:41:07 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] stub axles, Part 1 Message-ID: <001001ca8a48$d08620d0$71926270$@rr.com> After I retired from my job as engineering supervisor for the U.S. Navy H-3 Sea King helicopter design and maintenance engineering group, I became Engineering Manager for a commercial contractor supervising 5 structural design engineers. These engineers used the Pro Engineer structural design software suite on a daily basis to design modifications for Coast Guard, U.S. Navy, and U. S. Army helicopters. It was my hope and plan that they could help me perform a finite element analysis of the BJ8 stub axle and bearing assembly with and without the spacer and shims installed, so we could resolve the question of the effect of the spacer/shims on the stub axle strength, once and for all. The problem I had was that I did not have the physical dimensions of the splined hub adapter and the internal stack-up of parts that could be used as input to the analysis. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA From sbyers at ec.rr.com Thu Dec 31 11:41:32 2009 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:41:32 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] FW: stub axles, Part 2 Message-ID: <001101ca8a48$df5c3180$9e149480$@rr.com> After Hemphill's Healey Haven stuck with me with an unusable brand-new splined right front hub adapter (incorrectly machined, causing a wobble in the rotor) and refused to make good on it, I decided to section the adapter so that a cross-section of the total assembly could be obtained. With this, I was going to feed it to one of the structural design engineers and have him do the analysis. Unfortunately for that, it was about at this point that I decided to retire again and I no longer had access to the engineering expertise or software to get the analysis done. However, I did submit measurements and photos to get the technical opinion of all five of the engineers. Unanimously, they agreed that while the spacer and bearing stack-up would add some small amount of stiffness to the assembly, it was not enough to have any significant effect on either the strength or strain (flexing) at the root of the stub axle. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA From healeyrick at yahoo.com Thu Dec 31 11:58:27 2009 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 10:58:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Muffler for Healey 100 - Glasspacks Message-ID: <165026.46652.qm@web51407.mail.re2.yahoo.com> From: HealeyRick Subject: Re: [Healeys] Muffler for Healey 100 - Glasspacks To: "gary brierton" , awgertoo at aol.com, "Richard Dryman" Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Date: Thursday, December 31, 2009, 12:57 PM Generally "steelpacks" will keep their tone and not get louder longer than "glasspacks " Porter Mufflers will custom make steelpacks to your specification. http://www.portermufflers.com/ Cool thing is the owner's Dad drove a Hillborn injected 301 Chevy powered Healey to 167 mph at Bonneville in 1961 Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo - From sbyers at ec.rr.com Thu Dec 31 12:12:38 2009 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:12:38 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] stub axles, Part 1 Message-ID: <001d01ca8a4d$380ecf50$a82c6df0$@rr.com> Geez, it appears that anything more than two sentences goes over the 3k limit. After I retired from my job as engineering supervisor for the U.S. Navy H-3 Sea King helicopter design and maintenance engineering group, I became Engineering Manager for a commercial contractor supervising 5 structural design engineers. These engineers used the Pro Engineer structural design software suite on a daily basis to design modifications for Coast Guard, U.S. Navy, and U. S. Army helicopters. It was my hope and plan that they could help me perform a finite element analysis of the BJ8 stub axle and bearing assembly with and without the spacer and shims installed, so we could resolve the question of the effect of the spacer/shims on the stub axle strength, once and for all. The problem I had was that I did not have the physical dimensions of the splined hub adapter and the internal stack-up of parts that could be used as input to the analysis. Part 2 to follow... Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA From sbyers at ec.rr.com Thu Dec 31 12:14:10 2009 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:14:10 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] stub axles, Part 2 Message-ID: <001e01ca8a4d$6ef33d30$4cd9b790$@rr.com> After Hemphill's Healey Haven stuck with me with an unusable brand-new splined right front hub adapter (incorrectly machined, causing a wobble in the rotor) and refused to make good on it, I decided to section the adapter so that a cross-section of the total assembly could be obtained. With this, I was going to feed it to one of the structural design engineers and have him do the analysis. Unfortunately for that, it was about at this point that I decided to retire again and I no longer had access to the engineering expertise or software to get the analysis done. However, I did submit measurements and photos to get the technical opinion of all five of the engineers. Unanimously, they agreed that while the spacer and bearing stack-up would add some small amount of stiffness to the assembly, it was not enough to have any significant effect on either the strength or strain (flexing) at the root of the stub axle. Part 3 to follow.. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Thu Dec 31 12:47:22 2009 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 20:47:22 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] stub axles, Part 1 In-Reply-To: <001001ca8a48$d08620d0$71926270$@rr.com> References: <001001ca8a48$d08620d0$71926270$@rr.com> Message-ID: <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3D888EF@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> I have never heart of a broken stub axle on an Austin-Healey. Is there anyone who experienced a broken stub axle on its Healey? I know there are problems with broken king pins on MG As, but never heart from Healeys with problems. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/Germany -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von BJ8 Healeys Gesendet: Donnerstag, 31. Dezember 2009 19:41 An: healeys at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Healeys] stub axles, Part 1 After I retired from my job as engineering supervisor for the U.S. Navy H-3 Sea King helicopter design and maintenance engineering group, I became Engineering Manager for a commercial contractor supervising 5 structural design engineers. These engineers used the Pro Engineer structural design software suite on a daily basis to design modifications for Coast Guard, U.S. Navy, and U. S. Army helicopters. It was my hope and plan that they could help me perform a finite element analysis of the BJ8 stub axle and bearing assembly with and without the spacer and shims installed, so we could resolve the question of the effect of the spacer/shims on the stub axle strength, once and for all. The problem I had was that I did not have the physical dimensions of the splined hub adapter and the internal stack-up of parts that could be used as input to the analysis. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA ____________________ From geatros at shaw.ca Thu Dec 31 13:32:08 2009 From: geatros at shaw.ca (Geatros) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:32:08 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Looking for a Hardtop for a BN4 Message-ID: Hello Healey Folks , My 22 year old son is looking for a Factory Hardtop for his BN4 100-6 he's restoring . Does anyone in the Vancouver BC Canada area have one that they might sell ? A restorable project Hardtop is what he's looking for................. Cheers and Happy New Year ! Kenny From dwflagg at juno.com Thu Dec 31 13:52:18 2009 From: dwflagg at juno.com (dwflagg) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:52:18 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] TR3A/TR4 Carb Message-ID: <20091231.125258.5937.67335@mailpop05.dca.untd.com> I have a very nice, front, complete SU H6 carb for a TR3A/TR4. Before listing on eBay, I wanted to check if there was an interest or need on the list. Please contact me off the list. Doug ____________________________________________________________ Diet Help Cheap Diet Help Tips. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=Poeqw2ztPhnC9IADTUoJowAAJ1B-9ttc3k1I_21D8YCzT29EAAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYQAAAAAA= From rchaskell at earthlink.net Thu Dec 31 14:04:56 2009 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:04:56 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Muffler for Healey 100 In-Reply-To: <246D7BE9263E40BEA900D6AB445EFE4C@XPS400> References: <7a3f.51e33102.386d7dbd@aol.com> <419781B411FE49A393D0DAC5B73D49D0@LIFEBOOK> <246D7BE9263E40BEA900D6AB445EFE4C@XPS400> Message-ID: <4B3D11F8.7060400@earthlink.net> Ron, Do you know of a US distributor of Bell? Does Bell make a mild steel system? On their website (http://www.bell-silencer.co.uk/products.htm) implies that they just make stainless steel systems. Bob Ron Fine wrote: > When I completed the restoration of my BN7 I was very unhappy with the > loud sound from the new Moss supplied mild steel muffler. I wanted a > quieter muffler due to my age and my efforts to protect what is left of > my hearing. After experimenting with several different mufflers I got a > mild steel muffler manufactured by Bell. Much quieter than the others > and well made. > > Happy New Year > > Ron Fine _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as rchaskell at earthlink.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From sbyers at ec.rr.com Thu Dec 31 14:37:29 2009 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:37:29 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Multiple posts re: stub axles Message-ID: <003601ca8a61$74476fe0$5cd64fa0$@rr.com> All, I apologize for the multiple posts from me about the stub axles and bearing spacer. My first attempt to state it all in one post was rejected as over the limit. To keep my response timely, I cut it into parts, but had to make several more attempts before I got any of them under 3K. It appears that all of them are starting to come in. Sorry, Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA From eyera3 at gmail.com Thu Dec 31 14:44:24 2009 From: eyera3 at gmail.com (I Erbs) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:44:24 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Muffler for Healey 100 In-Reply-To: <246D7BE9263E40BEA900D6AB445EFE4C@XPS400> References: <7a3f.51e33102.386d7dbd@aol.com> <419781B411FE49A393D0DAC5B73D49D0@LIFEBOOK> <246D7BE9263E40BEA900D6AB445EFE4C@XPS400> Message-ID: <2B81F4DB-DA16-4616-9568-37082F943E2B@gmail.com> 30 years ago I bought a lifetome muffler from Midas. They honored it a few years ago. But is was jassle to get them to provide an oem unit. Much quiter. I Erbs Sent from my iPod On Dec 31, 2009, at 9:27 AM, "Ron Fine" wrote: > When I completed the restoration of my BN7 I was very unhappy with > the loud sound from the new Moss supplied mild steel muffler. I > wanted a quieter muffler due to my age and my efforts to protect > what is left of my hearing. After experimenting with several > different mufflers I got a mild steel muffler manufactured by Bell. > Much quieter than the others and well made. > > Happy New Year > > Ron Fine _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eyera3 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From Healey100M at gmail.com Thu Dec 31 15:02:07 2009 From: Healey100M at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:02:07 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Muffler for Healey 100 References: <0ED7108E-B12B-4AAD-8330-EBD0CE3BCD0E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4AC68D80-7E03-4B02-AA7D-D24268536771@gmail.com> > From: Randy Hicks > Date: December 31, 2009 5:00:39 PM EST > To: Bob Haskell > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Muffler for Healey 100 > > Contact George Ramsey at: gramsey at engelimports.com > > www.engelimports.com/ > > or 800-581-8188 > > Bought my BJ8 system (Stainless) and very happy with it and their service. NFI > > Randy > > Randy Hicks > www.austinhealey100m.com > '56 100 M > '55 BN1 Dealer Le Mans > '62 BN7 MkII > '65 BJ8 > '53 MGTD > Healey100M at gmail.com > > > On Dec 31, 2009, at 4:04 PM, Bob Haskell wrote: > >> Ron, >> >> Do you know of a US distributor of Bell? >> >> Does Bell make a mild steel system? On their website (http://www.bell-silencer.co.uk/products.htm) implies that they just make stainless steel systems. >> >> Bob >> >> Ron Fine wrote: >>> When I completed the restoration of my BN7 I was very unhappy with the loud sound from the new Moss supplied mild steel muffler. I wanted a quieter muffler due to my age and my efforts to protect what is left of my hearing. After experimenting with several different mufflers I got a mild steel muffler manufactured by Bell. Much quieter than the others and well made. >>> Happy New Year >>> Ron Fine _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> You are subscribed as rchaskell at earthlink.net >>> http://www.team.net/archive >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as healey100m at gmail.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive From fredcrowley at teamhealeytexas.com Thu Dec 31 15:51:29 2009 From: fredcrowley at teamhealeytexas.com (Fred Crowley) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:51:29 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] stub axles, Part 1 In-Reply-To: <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3D888EF@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> References: <001001ca8a48$d08620d0$71926270$@rr.com> <6794FA491BD5754DB88F0A3D1E53C2F3D888EF@S4DE8PSAAQG.t-systems.com> Message-ID: A number of years ago, a Healey racer (D.P.) in the upper-midwest broke a stub axle that subsequently ended up scuffing up the bodywork real bad (as in rolled over). Denis Welch has had new stub axles available for a long time. These axles, besides being made of more recent metal, also had a few design changes (notably where the axle joined the flange). When the aforementioned incident occurred, I replaced the axles on my racing Healey with the DW ones. Crack tested the originals and found some minor cracks at the axle/flange radius (scary). Nary a concern since replacing with the DW ones, and I crack test them frequently. Over the years I've had the opportunity to crack test a few of the stock axles, and invariably cracks were present. At the other end of the car, I've also broken the portside half-shaft at the flange. This isn't quite as serious as the front stub axle, other than you'll find no power being sent to the rear wheels. I'd recommend crack testing the rear half-shafts as well. You can buy a crack-test kit from most racing shops - obviously not as good as magna-fluxing, etc., but a decent alternative. My suggestion is to check your axles for weakness/cracks on a yearly basis, and replace as you see fit. In my opinion, I'd go with the DW parts. Cheers, Fred Crowley Team Healey Texas www.teamhealeytexas.com 972-867-2626 -------------------------------------------------- From: Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 1:47 PM To: Subject: Re: [Healeys] stub axles, Part 1 > I have never heart of a broken stub axle on an Austin-Healey. Is there anyone > who experienced a broken stub axle on its Healey? I know there are problems > with broken king pins on MG As, but never heart from Healeys with problems. > > Josef Eckert > Konigswinter/Germany From fredcrowley at teamhealeytexas.com Thu Dec 31 16:32:42 2009 From: fredcrowley at teamhealeytexas.com (Fred Crowley) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:32:42 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] stub axles, Part 1 Message-ID: From: Fred Crowley Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 4:51 PM To: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com ; Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] stub axles, Part 1 A number of years ago, a Healey racer (D.P.) in the upper-midwest broke a stub axle that subsequently ended up scuffing up the bodywork real bad (as in rolled over). Denis Welch has had new stub axles available for a long time. These axles, besides being made of more recent metal, also had a few design changes (notably where the axle joined the flange). When the aforementioned incident occurred, I replaced the axles on my racing Healey with the DW ones. Crack tested the originals and found some minor cracks at the axle/flange radius (scary). Nary a concern since replacing with the DW ones, and I crack test them frequently. Over the years I've had the opportunity to crack test a few of the stock axles, and invariably cracks were present. At the other end of the car, I've also broken the portside half-shaft at the flange. This isn't quite as serious as the front stub axle, other than you'll find no power being sent to the rear wheels. I'd recommend crack testing the rear half-shafts as well. You can buy a crack-test kit from most racing shops - obviously not as good as magna-fluxing, etc., but a decent alternative. My suggestion is to check your axles for weakness/cracks on a yearly basis, and replace as you see fit. In my opinion, I'd go with the DW parts. Specifically on the issue of spacers and shims, why mess with what worked for Donald and the gang. I called around and found a local metal shop that would make up shims to my specs. Had a number of different thicknesses made up. Granted it was more expensive that buying retail from our Healey suppliers, but with a greater variety of sizes I can now adjust to my heart's content. Cheers, Fred Crowley Team Healey Texas www.teamhealeytexas.com 972-867-2626 From RonFineEsq at earthlink.net Thu Dec 31 16:51:42 2009 From: RonFineEsq at earthlink.net (Ron Fine) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:51:42 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Muffler for Healey 100 References: <7a3f.51e33102.386d7dbd@aol.com><419781B411FE49A393D0DAC5B73D49D0@LIFEBOOK><246D7BE9263E40BEA900D6AB445EFE4C@XPS400> <4B3D11F8.7060400@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <24CCAD0B120447BA85FFD63551047F9C@XPS400> I purchased it directly from mailto:sales at ahspares.co.uk I don't know who might be distributing it in the US today. I bought it in late 2006. I don't remember what it cost but they were just introducing it at that time. It was suppose to be just like the SS one but in mild steel. I am still very happy with it after about 5000 miles. Ron From britcrs at gmail.com Thu Dec 31 19:55:05 2009 From: britcrs at gmail.com (Marvin James) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 19:55:05 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] SU Float Lid Nut In-Reply-To: <751d05480912302252g2bacffc0x27462394dbb6584f@mail.gmail.com> References: <20091230.165333.10765.68357@mailpop07.dca.untd.com> <751d05480912302252g2bacffc0x27462394dbb6584f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Good WAG. I just checked one and it's 1/4 BSF. Marv J On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 11:52 PM, Curt/Nancy Arndt wrote: > Doug, > > Just off the top of my head I think it's 1/4 BSF but that's just a WAG. > I'll check in the AM. > > Cheers, > > Curt > > On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 4:53 PM, dwflagg wrote: > > > Does anyone know the thread size for the SU float lid nut? TIA > > > > Doug > > ____________________________________________________________ > > Diet Help > > Cheap Diet Help Tips. 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