From paulbaker52 at yahoo.co.uk Tue Jul 1 03:23:41 2008 From: paulbaker52 at yahoo.co.uk (Paul Baker) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 09:23:41 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Healeys] Escaping air!! In-Reply-To: <590718.52549.qm@web50006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <772780.46240.qm@web23407.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Carlos, B I can understand your disbelief, so clearly I needed to be more specific.B Yes there are the usual leaks fromB every partB that contains oil but nothing that contains fuel. B Paul --- On Mon, 30/6/08, Carlos Cruz wrote: From: Carlos Cruz Subject: Re: [Healeys] Escaping air!! To: paulbaker52 at yahoo.co.uk Cc: "Healeys autox" Date: Monday, 30 June, 2008, 5:14 PM Paul, B I think I figured your problem out.B If you're claiming "no fluid leaks" - then you're obviously not in a Healey or other British car for that matter.B Get out of whatever you're sitting in and go start the Healey and see if you get the same sound. B Cheers... 8-) B Paul Baker wrote: No, there are no fluid leaks.B B Paul --- On Sun, 29/6/08, Alan Seigrist wrote: From: Alan Seigrist Subject: Re: [Healeys] Escaping air!! To: paulbaker52 at yahoo.co.uk Cc: "Healeys autox" Date: Sunday, 29 June, 2008, 12:01 PM Is it leaking gas under there? Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Paul Baker wrote: > When I turn the ignition key in my 67 BJ8 and just before the fuel pump starts > clicking, there is the sound of a short burst of air escaping under pressure > coming from the region of the fuel pump.B Its only just started making this > sound over the last few weeks and once the engine is started, which it does > just fine, the engine runs as it should.B If I switch the engine off andB and > then restart the engine, the sound does not reappear. > B > The fuel pump has been on theB car since it was rebuilt in 1991.B As I'm > getting the car ready for a trip to the Le Mans Classic in a couple of weeks I > don't want to take any chances with a dodgy pump if thats what it is. > B > What do you guys think it could be? > B > Paul Baker > B > 67 Bj8 > 66 Bj8 > 65 Sprite __________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 1 04:25:04 2008 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 06:25:04 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Healey 4 Seater Hard Top F/S References: <063020081426.8501.4868ECF8000290E400002135220588617297900E0A0403019B@comcast.net> Message-ID: <001801c8db64$bb2fe570$cf29e046@markl946cfrd7q> Got to love it when people come on to the list just to post their classified ad. I'm sure you would have received your asking price by post to the list first. (pre- Ebay) Hope you get your top dollar. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:26 AM Subject: [Healeys] Healey 4 Seater Hard Top F/S > If anyone is interested, I have a pre-BJ7 4 seater hardtop for sale. Needs > restoration. ID# 4 08 . 60 .1958 . > I am located in Oceanport, NJ, and you can see it on e*bay. Please contact > me off list. > > Thomas Leavy > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as lapierrem at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From bspidell at comcast.net Tue Jul 1 06:34:31 2008 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 05:34:31 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Escaping air!! In-Reply-To: <405582.55318.qm@web23404.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <405582.55318.qm@web23404.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <486A2457.5010304@comcast.net> Paul, re: "Is it normal practice to fit pipes to the vents on a BJ8?" According to (at least) one SU fuel pump book I have read there should be flexible tubing from the unvalved vent at the diaphragm end of the pump body. The flexible tubing should be routed to a clean, dry location. AFAIK, Healeys were never fitted with such vent tubing (surprised Burlen didn't know this). I installed one to vent in the boot. Sometimes, there's a cylindrical plastic cover on the check valve. It doesn't come with new pumps, however. re: "I called Burlen UK who make the pumps and they had not heard of this problem before but assumed that the pump was creating excess pressure from within and was expressing it through the valves." I don't buy this explanation. The valves are one-way to either draw fuel into the pump or expel it to the carburettors--there should be little, if any, air passing through them unless there are leaks in the system (or the tank is empty). The pressure created is limited by the strength of the spring behind the diaphragm (SU fuel pumps should produce about 3psi, give or take). Excess pressure usually results in flooding at the carbs. bs Paul Baker wrote: I thought you might be interested in an update on this after I have had a chance to do some investigation. It would appear that air is escaping or being released from either the vent at the plastic housing end or at the metal body end. It is difficult to work out from which it is coming as its very intermittant and with the noise of the engine. I called Burlen UK who make the pumps and they had not heard of this problem before but assumed that the pump was creating excess pressure from within and was expressing it through the valves. Their view was that if the pump was not leaking and working fine then it should be ok. They were surprised that as the pump is mounted under the rear seats that neither of the two vents had pipes leading rearwards from the pump as they felt that water could get into the pump through the vents and be causing this problem. As I said before, the pump has been on the car since 1991 when the car was rebuilt and has not caused any problems. Is it normal practice to fit pipes to the vents on a BJ8? As I have a new SU electronic pump which I had kept as a spare, I will put that on the car and keep the old one as the spare. It will be interesting to see if this one, plus vent pipes, makes the same noises. Paul 67 BJ8 66 BJ8 65 Sprite ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From alexmm at roadrunner.com Tue Jul 1 07:13:44 2008 From: alexmm at roadrunner.com (Alex) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 09:13:44 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Aston Martin runs on wine! Healeys next? References: <6636BC6F1B04400983BF671246ADD7D6@DonaldPayePC> Message-ID: <002501c8db7c$4a70e740$6b02a8c0@atc0f226cd3237> You can read about it here: http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23503568-details/Prince+Charles+converts+his+beloved+Aston+Martin+to+a+green+machine...+run+on+English+wine/article.do == Alex in Maine "The Blue Mainie," 1960 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 "Conkling," 1946 MG TC #1321 Former owner 1957 A-H 100-6, 1967 A-H BJ8, 1965 MG Midget http://users.adelphia.net/~alexmm/ai2q.htm From richchrysler at quickclic.net Tue Jul 1 08:00:05 2008 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 10:00:05 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Correctly mounted tonneau on BN2 - pictures please.. References: <001c01c8dadc$b30245b0$0300a8c0@tm4> Message-ID: <00b401c8db82$c49d3e50$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> Tadek, About the first of July 1954, the tonneau cover cut and design was modified to cover the door cockpit rails and the front corners better by being slightly wider and the front corner shape squaring off further forward. Prior to this point the tonneau was cut to approximately parallel the curvature of door to fascia cockpit rail shape, covering over by only about 1 1/2". (see pic mar08 004 for early arrangement) Then new improved design made use of turn button fasteners in the front corners, where prior design used a Tenax snap. A second stud (actually a small Tenax stud) was now used to secure the windscreen steady spring when not in use. (see pic 20021). To clear this front corner stud and not cause the stud to eventually wear through the tonneau material, a nickeled finish eyelet or grommet was incorporated into the tonneau cover. The rest of the tonneau fasteners remained as before, with a single Tenax fastener on the upper fascia just to the passenger's side of the mirror. (see tonneau in pic BN1 027) Moving back on the car, a pair of small flaps immediately behind the doors had eyes fitted to fasten onto turn button studs on the rear wings. These flaps are sewn into the underside of the tonneau cover. (see pic AH100-4pris) >From there, two Tenax fasteners, one on each side, snap onto the studs on the rear wing and another pair on the rear shroud deck, same as the top fits to. Finally at the back edge of the tonneau cover, a pair of short flat steel plates, painted black, are sewn into small slot openings in the rear edge. These slip under the rear deck chrome anchor brackets, and everything pulls forward from there. I've described all the fasteners from front to back, but of course in fitting the tonneau cover, you start from the back and work forward. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tadeusz Malkiewicz" To: Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 2:11 PM Subject: [Healeys] Correctly mounted tonneau on BN2 - pictures please.. > Hello, > > I am looking for some pictures of correctly mounted tonneau on a BN2 - I > am > not sure where do the fasteners go and in what numbers. > > Many thanks for help, > > Tadek > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richchrysler at quickclic.net > > http://www.team.net/archive [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of dendecker BN1 027.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of AH100-4pris_01lg.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Hundred details 20021.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of mar08 004.jpg] From richchrysler at quickclic.net Tue Jul 1 08:10:33 2008 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 10:10:33 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Canada Day July 1st Message-ID: <00db01c8db84$3a36e020$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> To all of us Canadians everywhere in the world, Happy Canada Day. Our country was "born" July 1st, 1867. Healey content: approx. 17% of the North American spec production came here. Rich Chrysler From jhomonek at mindspring.com Tue Jul 1 08:24:14 2008 From: jhomonek at mindspring.com (John H) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 10:24:14 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [Healeys] Canada Day July 1st Message-ID: <6285372.1214922254655.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Rich, any idea of how many Healeys were exported to Canada? John Homonek President, Atlanta Chapter AHCA 1959 BN7 - 1960 AN5 - 1974 Jensen Healey -----Original Message----- >From: Rich C >Sent: Jul 1, 2008 10:10 AM >To: Healeys >Subject: [Healeys] Canada Day July 1st > >To all of us Canadians everywhere in the world, Happy Canada Day. Our country >was "born" July 1st, 1867. > >Healey content: approx. 17% of the North American spec production came here. > >Rich Chrysler >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >Healeys at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > >You are subscribed as jhomonek at mindspring.com > >http://www.team.net/archive From edriver at sasktel.net Tue Jul 1 10:07:55 2008 From: edriver at sasktel.net (E.A. Driver) Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 10:07:55 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Canada Day July 1st In-Reply-To: <6285372.1214922254655.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <6285372.1214922254655.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <486A565B.2040607@sasktel.net> Hello John A reasonable estimate would be between 10,000 to 11,000 for the period 1953 to 1968. I am sure Rich may have the precise number. Kind regards Ed Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada Historian, AHCUSA '53 BN1 '65 BJ8 '89 Morgan 4/4 John H wrote: > Rich, > > any idea of how many Healeys were exported to Canada? > > John Homonek > President, Atlanta Chapter AHCA > 1959 BN7 - 1960 AN5 - 1974 Jensen Healey > > -----Original Message----- > >> From: Rich C >> Sent: Jul 1, 2008 10:10 AM >> To: Healeys >> Subject: [Healeys] Canada Day July 1st >> >> To all of us Canadians everywhere in the world, Happy Canada Day. Our country >> was "born" July 1st, 1867. >> >> Healey content: approx. 17% of the North American spec production came here. >> >> Rich Chrysler >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as jhomonek at mindspring.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as edriver at sasktel.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From richchrysler at quickclic.net Tue Jul 1 10:10:29 2008 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 12:10:29 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] My Pictures Posted Message-ID: <00fe01c8db94$fb562a30$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> Hello all, This morning I posted an answer back to Tadek regarding the fasteners for Hundreds. The answer included 4 pictures. Please note that any time you see this material with pictures cc'd to John Sims, please check his site www.healey6.com for the pics and text to be posted there before asking me to send all you individuals requesting "pictures to me too please". John Sims has been very generous in almost always putting this material up on his web site for all to see. Thanks, and a special thanks to John Rich Chrysler From richchrysler at quickclic.net Tue Jul 1 10:21:54 2008 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 12:21:54 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Canada Day July 1st References: <6285372.1214922254655.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <486A565B.2040607@sasktel.net> Message-ID: <011601c8db96$93e5fe00$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> Ed and John, No, I have no precise figures but that sounds like a good number. If approx. 85% of all production came to North America, and of that, approx. 17% came to Canada, that would be about 10,900. Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: "E.A. Driver" To: "John H" Cc: "Healeys" Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 12:07 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Canada Day July 1st > Hello John > > A reasonable estimate would be between 10,000 to 11,000 for the period > 1953 to 1968. I am sure Rich may have the precise number. > > Kind regards > Ed > Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada > Historian, AHCUSA > '53 BN1 '65 BJ8 '89 Morgan 4/4 > > > > John H wrote: >> Rich, >> >> any idea of how many Healeys were exported to Canada? >> >> John Homonek >> President, Atlanta Chapter AHCA >> 1959 BN7 - 1960 AN5 - 1974 Jensen Healey >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: Rich C >>> Sent: Jul 1, 2008 10:10 AM >>> To: Healeys >>> Subject: [Healeys] Canada Day July 1st >>> >>> To all of us Canadians everywhere in the world, Happy Canada Day. Our >>> country >>> was "born" July 1st, 1867. >>> >>> Healey content: approx. 17% of the North American spec production came >>> here. >>> >>> Rich Chrysler >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> You are subscribed as jhomonek at mindspring.com >>> >>> http://www.team.net/archive >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as edriver at sasktel.net >> >> http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richchrysler at quickclic.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From Hartangus at aol.com Tue Jul 1 11:16:35 2008 From: Hartangus at aol.com (Hartangus at aol.com) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 13:16:35 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Canada Day Message-ID: May I also offer my best wishes to all Canadians on this their special day.It must be wonderful to be part of a great nation which gets on with it's own business without interfering in other countries. Regards and best wishes to you all Barrie from England PS. my BN4 was reimported fromCanada From geatros at shaw.ca Tue Jul 1 11:19:56 2008 From: geatros at shaw.ca (Geatros) Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 10:19:56 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Canada Day July 1st/Happy Carbon Tax Day Message-ID: <0677B6CC86024F029A8F8B5CFAD27F92@soloPC> Happy Carbon Tax Day here in B.C.......... Thanks Gordan Cambell !!!!!!!! Cheers Kenny From tomleavy at comcast.net Tue Jul 1 11:28:27 2008 From: tomleavy at comcast.net (tomleavy at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:28:27 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Healey 4 Seater Hard Top F/S Message-ID: <070120081728.12109.486A693B000B025900002F4D220073747897900E0A0403019B@comcast.net> Mark- I didn't just stumble into your private room. I've read this list Jackass. Everyday. If you weren't interested in the heading, than you should'nt have read it. Others were, and they replied. That's how a list works. Like many of the subscribers, I enjoy reading the contributions of many of the listers. I have learned alot about Healeys, and along the way have also learned about how the list works. It's a community of people sharing a common interest. Like any community, however, there are always just a few who don't get on well with others. They lack humility and have an overinflated perception of the value of their opinion If you can't keep your snide comments to yourself, than shut the fuck up entirely. Go join some other list where people just flame each other instead of sticking to the topic. That might be the best thing to do, because the rest of us are sick and tired of listening to assholes like you on this list. Dickhead. -- Thomas Leavy From davzu29 at cox.net Tue Jul 1 11:29:39 2008 From: davzu29 at cox.net (David Z) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 13:29:39 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Canada Day References: Message-ID: <000501c8dba0$0a8e5710$6401a8c0@ORGANIZA79207D> Let's not purposely try to get into a political discussion, and being a citizen of the U.S.A., but that sounds like a shot across the bow to me...... David Z. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 1:16 PM Subject: [Healeys] Canada Day > May I also offer my best wishes to all Canadians on this their special > day.It must be wonderful to be part of > a great nation which gets on with it's own business without interfering in > other countries. > Regards and best > wishes to you all > > > Barrie from England > PS. my BN4 was reimported fromCanada > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as davzu29 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From mike.vasquez at gmail.com Tue Jul 1 11:38:00 2008 From: mike.vasquez at gmail.com (Mike Vasquez) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 10:38:00 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Healey 4 Seater Hard Top F/S In-Reply-To: <070120081728.12109.486A693B000B025900002F4D220073747897900E0A0403019B@comcast.net> References: <070120081728.12109.486A693B000B025900002F4D220073747897900E0A0403019B@comcast.net> Message-ID: <28f529ba0807011038k512e6dbcr1539e6aa3d74cdca@mail.gmail.com> Mark probably doesn't realize the number of people that lurk on the list. I've found the list highly enjoyable reading over the last week I've been on. Joined not as an owner, but in hopes of owning an ah at some point. So, Mark was wrong, however, if I were a business owner of a restaurant in Matawan, I sure hope I'd put up a better public face than this email represented. I teach my kids, 2 wrongs don't make a right. Neither display was impressive. On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 10:28 AM, wrote: > Mark- > > I didn't just stumble into your private room. I've read this list Jackass. Everyday. If you weren't interested in the heading, than you should'nt have read it. Others were, and they replied. That's how a list works. > > Like many of the subscribers, I enjoy reading the contributions of many of the listers. I have learned alot about Healeys, and along the way have also learned about how the list works. It's a community of people sharing a common interest. Like any community, however, there are always just a few who don't get on well with others. They lack humility and have an overinflated perception of the value of their opinion > > If you can't keep your snide comments to yourself, than shut the fuck up entirely. Go join some other list where people just flame each other instead of sticking to the topic. That might be the best thing to do, because the rest of us are sick and tired of listening to assholes like you on this list. Dickhead. > > -- > Thomas Leavy > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as mike.vasquez at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl Tue Jul 1 12:00:09 2008 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:00:09 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Correctly mounted tonneau on BN2 - pictures please.. In-Reply-To: <00b401c8db82$c49d3e50$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> Message-ID: <002a01c8dba4$4d575e30$0300a8c0@tm4> Rich, Great thanks for help!.. Most useful as always.. Would you have a picture of the front corner arrangement? BTW, Why was the rear turn button fastener placed hidden on a strap? Many thanks, Tadek -----Original Message----- From: Rich C [mailto:richchrysler at quickclic.net] Sent: 1 lipca 2008 16:00 To: healeys at autox.team.net; Tadeusz Malkiewicz Cc: John Sims Subject: Re: [Healeys] Correctly mounted tonneau on BN2 - pictures please.. Tadek, About the first of July 1954, the tonneau cover cut and design was modified to cover the door cockpit rails and the front corners better by being slightly wider and the front corner shape squaring off further forward. Prior to this point the tonneau was cut to approximately parallel the curvature of door to fascia cockpit rail shape, covering over by only about 1 1/2". (see pic mar08 004 for early arrangement) Then new improved design made use of turn button fasteners in the front corners, where prior design used a Tenax snap. A second stud (actually a small Tenax stud) was now used to secure the windscreen steady spring when not in use. (see pic 20021). To clear this front corner stud and not cause the stud to eventually wear through the tonneau material, a nickeled finish eyelet or grommet was incorporated into the tonneau cover. The rest of the tonneau fasteners remained as before, with a single Tenax fastener on the upper fascia just to the passenger's side of the mirror. (see tonneau in pic BN1 027) Moving back on the car, a pair of small flaps immediately behind the doors had eyes fitted to fasten onto turn button studs on the rear wings. These flaps are sewn into the underside of the tonneau cover. (see pic AH100-4pris) >From there, two Tenax fasteners, one on each side, snap onto the studs on the rear wing and another pair on the rear shroud deck, same as the top fits to. Finally at the back edge of the tonneau cover, a pair of short flat steel plates, painted black, are sewn into small slot openings in the rear edge. These slip under the rear deck chrome anchor brackets, and everything pulls forward from there. I've described all the fasteners from front to back, but of course in fitting the tonneau cover, you start from the back and work forward. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tadeusz Malkiewicz" To: Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 2:11 PM Subject: [Healeys] Correctly mounted tonneau on BN2 - pictures please.. > Hello, > > I am looking for some pictures of correctly mounted tonneau on a BN2 - I > am > not sure where do the fasteners go and in what numbers. > > Many thanks for help, > > Tadek > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richchrysler at quickclic.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From dcongleton at embarqmail.com Tue Jul 1 12:04:44 2008 From: dcongleton at embarqmail.com (Dallas Congleton) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 14:04:44 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Canada Day References: <000501c8dba0$0a8e5710$6401a8c0@ORGANIZA79207D> Message-ID: <4A4F751F7A9E42A6B1AC3C341C39BD22@your4dacd0ea75> Well said David- I only read this list periodically any more because of post like this. There are also the Snopes.com police; the "anti-sense of humor if it reflects on me or my views" types, as well as the current post with a self appointed someone "policing" someone else for listing some Healey parts. Invariably someone has to pipe up and show their ignorance with political comments, generally anti US.. I guess the US should have not interfered in somebody's else's "business" in WWI or WWII. I think the mjority of the Iraqi people have a different opinion - that is the intelligent ones that don't listen to the BBC or New York Times political and liberal views .. Incidentally the great nation of Canada has aided ( or "interferred " ) in both World Wars and the current conflicts. Hope you all have a Happy Canada Day! ( US citizen, Military Veteran, Conservative, have common sense and proud of it- Have owned Healeys since the late 50s. I now wonder what I have in common anymore with some Healey owners.) dc ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Z" To: ; Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Canada Day > Let's not purposely try to get into a political discussion, and being a > citizen of the U.S.A., but that sounds like a shot across the bow to > me...... > > David Z. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 1:16 PM > Subject: [Healeys] Canada Day > > >> May I also offer my best wishes to all Canadians on this their special >> day.It must be wonderful to be part of >> a great nation which gets on with it's own business without interfering >> in >> other countries. >> Regards and >> best >> wishes to you all >> >> >> Barrie from England >> PS. my BN4 was reimported fromCanada From tomfelts at windstream.net Tue Jul 1 12:06:04 2008 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (tomfelts at windstream.net) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 14:06:04 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Healey 4 Seater Hard Top F/S Message-ID: <20080701180604.JAL22346.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> I don't even remember what Mark wrote, but it must have been one heck of a post to generate this response. For some reason I felt ANY Healey owner had more class than to resort to F word. First time I have ever seen it used here. Tom > > From: "Mike Vasquez" > Date: 2008/07/01 Tue PM 01:38:00 EDT > To: Healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey 4 Seater Hard Top F/S > > Mark probably doesn't realize the number of people that lurk on the > list. I've found the list highly enjoyable reading over the last week > I've been on. Joined not as an owner, but in hopes of owning an ah at > some point. > > So, Mark was wrong, however, if I were a business owner of a > restaurant in Matawan, I sure hope I'd put up a better public face > than this email represented. > > I teach my kids, 2 wrongs don't make a right. Neither display was impressive. > > On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 10:28 AM, wrote: > > Mark- > > > > I didn't just stumble into your private room. I've read this list Jackass. Everyday. If you weren't interested in the heading, than you should'nt have read it. Others were, and they replied. That's how a list works. > > > > Like many of the subscribers, I enjoy reading the contributions of many of the listers. I have learned alot about Healeys, and along the way have also learned about how the list works. It's a community of people sharing a common interest. Like any community, however, there are always just a few who don't get on well with others. They lack humility and have an overinflated perception of the value of their opinion > > > > If you can't keep your snide comments to yourself, than shut the fuck up entirely. Go join some other list where people just flame each other instead of sticking to the topic. That might be the best thing to do, because the rest of us are sick and tired of listening to assholes like you on this list. Dickhead. > > > > -- > > Thomas Leavy > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > You are subscribed as mike.vasquez at gmail.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From Hartangus at aol.com Tue Jul 1 12:19:35 2008 From: Hartangus at aol.com (Hartangus at aol.com) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 14:19:35 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Canada day Message-ID: I was'nt aware I was getting into a political discussion,Icertainly had, nor have,any intention of so doing . It does seem sad that I am unable to express heart felt feelings for a fellow Commonwealth country on it's enveyable way of life without offending a person from a country I did'nt mention. With regard to the remark about shooting across bows,it would be extreemly hypocritical for an Englishman to accuse another nation of such behaviour. Regards Barrie from England From tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl Tue Jul 1 12:24:35 2008 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:24:35 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] AH 100 first driving impressions - Boy this is fun!... Message-ID: <002b01c8dba7$b72ead10$0300a8c0@tm4> Well, well, I have covered about 40 miles in my BN2 today, came back home safely without any incident!.. I have totally rebuild: - front suspension - rear suspension - brakes - steering The brakes still would need a bit of adjustment, the toe-in is not set proper, but I could not resist.. I have to say I am really impressed by the way a 52 year old car goes - the acceleration is superb, handling is fine, I enjoyed it madly!!.... I have a few questions though: 1. What sort of play should I have on the steering wheel? It's the late type BN2 steering box. 2. The steering wheel does not 'turn back' after a corner (like most modern cars). Should it? (I have rebuild the steering box with a new bush.) 3. When shifting from 2nd to 3rd there seems to be no synchronization - are the parts available? 4. What gears do you use when driving through the city? I found 2nd and 4th most useful - it seems as though it could be a 2 speed gearbox... :-) 5. What should be the oil pressure while idling & while driving? 6. What should be the water temperature? How high should it go up when you stop the car? 7. Should I use 98 or 95 octane petrol? (these are European standards) 8. What should be my fuel consumption? 9. I am almost 190cm, so.. when driving, the chrome top edge of the window is on my eye level. Is there any remedy here? Anyone with similar problems (& solutions)?... 10. When the seat is in the rearmost position the seat back (squab) seems to be resting on the folded roof, not on the seat frame. Have I folded the roof incorrectly or is this normal? 11. I might be forced to install orange indicators in the rear. (I hate the thought) Nonetheless, does anyone have pictures of a neat solution to this problem?.. 12. The tow in should be set like in the book? (1/16-1/8")? As usual, all help would be appreciated... Many thanks!.. Tadek From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Tue Jul 1 12:52:51 2008 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 20:52:51 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] WG: AH 100 first driving impressions - Boy this is fun!... Message-ID: <63B1A4D5F62C7B458A5B757A5EA8175004626B30@S4DE8PSAANH.t-systems.com> Hello Tadek, concratulations. Here my personal answers (my experiance) to your questions. 1. You should not feel any play, perhaps some marginal, not more than 1/2 inch. 2. The steering wheel should have a tendency to go back. 3. The usual sources can repair the gearbox 4. Cruising in 3rd or perhaps 4th 5. above 10lb to about 50 6. about 190 is normal, my engine very rarely goes above that, but I have problems when starting after a minute ( when I fill up with petrol (vapour lock) 7. I use 98 octane, but 95 should be possible (never tried) 8. about 11 to 12 Liters to 100km 9. Only way to solve is to wear glasses 10. This is normal 11. You can put in the indicators, where the reflectors are normally, and buy the reflectors for the BJ8 to fit under the bumper. In Germany it is allowed to keep the original rear lights. So I stayed with the original red. 12. yes, Hope I could help. Josef Eckert Koenigswinter/Germany 1. What sort of play should I have on the steering wheel? It's the late type BN2 steering box. 2. The steering wheel does not 'turn back' after a corner (like most modern cars). Should it? (I have rebuild the steering box with a new bush.) 3. When shifting from 2nd to 3rd there seems to be no synchronization - are the parts available? 4. What gears do you use when driving through the city? I found 2nd and 4th most useful - it seems as though it could be a 2 speed gearbox... :-) 5. What should be the oil pressure while idling & while driving? 6. What should be the water temperature? How high should it go up when you stop the car? 7. Should I use 98 or 95 octane petrol? (these are European standards) 8. What should be my fuel consumption? 9. I am almost 190cm, so.. when driving, the chrome top edge of the window is on my eye level. Is there any remedy here? Anyone with similar problems (& solutions)?... 10. When the seat is in the rearmost position the seat back (squab) seems to be resting on the folded roof, not on the seat frame. Have I folded the roof incorrectly or is this normal? 11. I might be forced to install orange indicators in the rear. (I hate the thought) Nonetheless, does anyone have pictures of a neat solution to this problem?.. 12. The tow in should be set like in the book? (1/16-1/8")? As usual, all help would be appreciated... Many thanks!.. Tadek From tomleavy at comcast.net Tue Jul 1 14:11:51 2008 From: tomleavy at comcast.net (tomleavy at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:11:51 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] BJ7-BJ8 Door Differences Message-ID: <070120082011.14483.486A8F870005D5C500003893220730003397900E0A0403019B@comcast.net> Howdy Listers- Does anybody know the difference between a BJ7 and BJ8 door? I bought a NOS door for my 63 BJ7, and when installed, the A pillar gaps are off. Also, the bracket that the check strap attaches to on the door side is parallel to the door side of the jamb, while on the replacement door the bracket is angled in toward the cockpit. I have heard that there is a difference between the two models (the guy who sold it to me so advised), but he said that this was a "7" version, and it was a leftover from a BJ8 project. If anyone could email me pics their "7" or "8" door side jambs off list, I'd appreciate it. If it turns out that this is an 8 door, it will be for sale in the near future (hope that doesn't offend anyone). HAPPY CANADA DAY! -- Thomas Leavy 451 Branchport Avenue Oceanport, NJ 07757 (908) 433-9322 From tomleavy at comcast.net Tue Jul 1 14:45:21 2008 From: tomleavy at comcast.net (tomleavy at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:45:21 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] BJ7-BJ8 Door Differences Message-ID: <070120082045.739.486A976100022B49000002E3220699973597900E0A0403019B@comcast.net> Hi Perry- Thanks for the reply. I completely forgot about the door handles. They are the earlier style (latch, not push button). Perhaps this was a late latch style door for an early BJ8. The check-strap bracket is definitely different that my original door. I could probably make it fit if I shaved the door hinges on the door side, thus moving the door forward in the opening, but I'm not sure that will cure the fit problem. I'm stumped. -- Thomas Leavy -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: healeyguy at aol.com > Thomas > Does the door have a round or rectangular hole for the exterior door > handle? BJ8's are round. Door gaps being off is common and sometimes > requires bending things a bit or use of sims to fit. > Aloha > Perry > > > -----Original Message----- > From: tomleavy at comcast.net > To: Healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 10:11 am > Subject: [Healeys] BJ7-BJ8 Door Differences > > > > Howdy Listers- > > Does anybody know the difference between a BJ7 and BJ8 door? > > I bought a NOS door for my 63 BJ7, and when installed, the A pillar > gaps are > off. Also, the bracket that the check strap attaches to on the door > side is > parallel to the door side of the jamb, while on the replacement door > the bracket > is angled in toward the cockpit. > > I have heard that there is a difference between the two models (the guy > who sold > it to me so advised), but he said that this was a "7" version, and it > was a > leftover from a BJ8 project. > > If anyone could email me pics their "7" or "8" door side jambs off > list, I'd > appreciate it. > > If it turns out that this is an 8 door, it will be for sale in the near > future > (hope that doesn't offend anyone). > > HAPPY CANADA DAY! > -- > Thomas Leavy > 451 Branchport Avenue > Oceanport, NJ 07757 > (908) 433-9322 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeyguy at aol.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From Hartangus at aol.com Tue Jul 1 15:08:26 2008 From: Hartangus at aol.com (Hartangus at aol.com) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 17:08:26 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Canada day Message-ID: Hi Josef, your remarks were very much appreciated. Regards Barrie from England From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Jul 1 17:13:17 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 18:13:17 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Canada Day In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Barrie - It was only the US, with good support from the UK, that stepped in and stopped the evil in Bosnia when most of Europe was paralysed in its typical EU way. Look at Croatia, Bosnia and Serbia now - big improvements. By the way, the UK, Australia, the Netherlands, Denmark, Poland and Canada have all made big sacrifices in both Iraq and Afghanistan. Alan On 7/2/08, Hartangus at aol.com wrote: > May I also offer my best wishes to all Canadians on this their special > day.It must be wonderful to be part of > a great nation which gets on with it's own business without interfering in > other countries. > Regards and best > wishes to you all > > > Barrie from England > PS. my BN4 was reimported fromCanada > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 From ynotink at msn.com Tue Jul 1 17:42:19 2008 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:42:19 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Canada Day In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks for the slap Barrie. Remind us not to interfere the next time you have your t** in a wringer. Bill Lawrence >From: Hartangus at aol.com >To: healeys at autox.team.net >Subject: [Healeys] Canada Day >Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 13:16:35 EDT > >May I also offer my best wishes to all Canadians on this their special >day.It must be wonderful to be part of >a great nation which gets on with it's own business without interfering in >other countries. > Regards and >best >wishes to you all > > > Barrie from England >PS. my BN4 was reimported fromCanada >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >Healeys at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > >You are subscribed as ynotink at msn.com > >http://www.team.net/archive From ahbn6 at optonline.net Tue Jul 1 17:54:34 2008 From: ahbn6 at optonline.net (John Sims) Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:54:34 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Canada Day In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00de01c8dbd5$d07d2ac0$71778040$@net> Are you saying that if it were not for our interference, then Barry might now be speaking German? Seems that I have heard the same non interference plea from the French. John Sims -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WILLIAM B LAWRENCE Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 7:42 PM To: Hartangus at aol.com; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Canada Day Thanks for the slap Barrie. Remind us not to interfere the next time you have your t** in a wringer. Bill Lawrence >From: Hartangus at aol.com >To: healeys at autox.team.net >Subject: [Healeys] Canada Day >Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 13:16:35 EDT > >May I also offer my best wishes to all Canadians on this their special >day.It must be wonderful to be part of >a great nation which gets on with it's own business without interfering in >other countries. > Regards and >best >wishes to you all > > > Barrie from England >PS. my BN4 was reimported fromCanada >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >Healeys at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > >You are subscribed as ynotink at msn.com > >http://www.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as ahbn6 at optonline.net http://www.team.net/archive From dwflagg at juno.com Tue Jul 1 17:52:36 2008 From: dwflagg at juno.com (Douglas W Flagg) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 19:52:36 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Lucas Part Message-ID: <20080701.195237.3380.1.dwflagg@juno.com> Does anyone know the application for Lucas part number 54939605? TIA. Doug ____________________________________________________________ Smart Girls Secret Weapon Read Unbiased Beauty Product Reviews, Get Helpful Tips, Tricks and Sam http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/JKFkuJi7U3xRkvougOjRwf7xyOUZa6wWcN6icbeE6nvmopM8cjjXV6/ From bbb11489 at azboss.net Tue Jul 1 18:55:25 2008 From: bbb11489 at azboss.net (Russ Staub) Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:55:25 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Healey 4 Seater Hard Top F/S In-Reply-To: <28f529ba0807011038k512e6dbcr1539e6aa3d74cdca@mail.gmail.com> References: <070120081728.12109.486A693B000B025900002F4D220073747897900E0A0403019B@comcast.net> <28f529ba0807011038k512e6dbcr1539e6aa3d74cdca@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <486AD1FD.1070401@azboss.net> Thank you Mike- At least some of the people on this list (probably nearly all) recognize the value of at least a modest degree of civility and self restraint! Russ Staub Mesa, AZ Mike Vasquez wrote: >Mark probably doesn't realize the number of people that lurk on the >list. I've found the list highly enjoyable reading over the last week >I've been on. Joined not as an owner, but in hopes of owning an ah at >some point. > >So, Mark was wrong, however, if I were a business owner of a >restaurant in Matawan, I sure hope I'd put up a better public face >than this email represented. > >I teach my kids, 2 wrongs don't make a right. Neither display was impressive. From e-wilkins at cox.net Tue Jul 1 20:35:20 2008 From: e-wilkins at cox.net (Eric (Rick) Wilkins) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 19:35:20 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Healey 4 Seater Hard Top F/S In-Reply-To: <001801c8db64$bb2fe570$cf29e046@markl946cfrd7q> References: <063020081426.8501.4868ECF8000290E400002135220588617297900E0A0403019B@comcast.net> <001801c8db64$bb2fe570$cf29e046@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: <744CB1E9-BDE5-4AC3-9A11-779933BD0F9A@cox.net> I don't remember reading any rules about not selling stuff. I'll add an "F" bomb, too but I don't think it would help. Wilko San Diego. Glad when good stuff is offered here first. On Jul 1, 2008, at 3:25 AM, Mark LaPierre wrote: > Got to love it when people come on to the list just to post their > classified > ad. > > I'm sure you would have received your asking price by post to the list > first. > (pre- Ebay) > > Hope you get your top dollar. > > Mark > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:26 AM > Subject: [Healeys] Healey 4 Seater Hard Top F/S From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Tue Jul 1 22:23:24 2008 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (James Shope) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 21:23:24 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] healey parts for sale Message-ID: <009701c8dbfb$5e975770$5201a8c0@Jim> do not give a hoot about anyone's political persuasion, but sure am glad when someone offers parts to the list before they put it on ebay. saved me some bucks a few times in the past. healeymanjim From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Tue Jul 1 22:35:10 2008 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (James Shope) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 21:35:10 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] knock Message-ID: <009e01c8dbfd$02de6fc0$5201a8c0@Jim> have a bj8 in the club that has a knock in left front wheel when brakes are applied. could also be on pax side but am too deaf to hear it. have looked at brake pads and calipers, hubs, bearings, steering links and boxes, kingpins and anything else that looks suspicious. does not seem to do it while in reverse. any ideas? healeymanjim From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Jul 1 23:22:00 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 13:22:00 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] knock In-Reply-To: <009e01c8dbfd$02de6fc0$5201a8c0@Jim> References: <009e01c8dbfd$02de6fc0$5201a8c0@Jim> Message-ID: Jim - Have you checked to see if the lower A-Arm's bolt/bush link to the king pin has come off? If this happens you can get this symptom. Also, check the wheel bearing shimming - if it is slightly under shimmed and the disk is loose, you can get this symptom too. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 12:35 PM, James Shope wrote: > have a bj8 in the club that has a knock in left front wheel when brakes are > applied. could also be on pax side but am too deaf to hear it. have looked > at brake pads and calipers, hubs, bearings, steering links and boxes, kingpins > and anything else that looks suspicious. does not seem to do it while in > reverse. any ideas? healeymanjim From tomfelts at windstream.net Wed Jul 2 06:03:08 2008 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (tomfelts at windstream.net) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 8:03:08 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Healey 4 Seater Hard Top F/S Message-ID: <20080702120308.DKTV22346.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> Not trying to defend anyone, but I think the whole issue was that some items were put up on EBay and THEN mentioned here on the list. (correct me if I am wrong). And--the writer thought it would have been better to have offered them to the list first and then, if they didn't sell here, put them up on EBay. Both writers could have been more civil. Cheers tom > > From: "Eric (Rick) Wilkins" > Date: 2008/07/01 Tue PM 10:35:20 EDT > CC: Healey List > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey 4 Seater Hard Top F/S > > I don't remember reading any rules about not selling stuff. > > I'll add an "F" bomb, too but I don't think it would help. > > Wilko > San Diego. > > Glad when good stuff is offered here first. > > > > > > > On Jul 1, 2008, at 3:25 AM, Mark LaPierre wrote: > > > Got to love it when people come on to the list just to post their > > classified > > ad. > > > > I'm sure you would have received your asking price by post to the list > > first. > > (pre- Ebay) > > > > Hope you get your top dollar. > > > > Mark > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:26 AM > > Subject: [Healeys] Healey 4 Seater Hard Top F/S > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From shop at justbrits.com Wed Jul 2 12:34:08 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 12:34:08 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Healey 4 Seater Hard Top F/S References: <20080702120308.DKTV22346.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> Message-ID: <01a001c8dc72$37535610$6501a8c0@shop> NOT to keep this thing going, but hopefully put it to rest: <> Tom, you hit the nail on the HEAD !! Done very poorly, IMHO. <> Qualifies for Understatement of The Year!! Ed PS: I might add that you & Rick will only get this ON List because I ALWAYS the EXTRA 10 SECONDS to amend the "Reply All:" so that it ONLY goes to the List. Phew, a TON of VERY "hard work"!! From m.brouillette at comcast.net Wed Jul 2 11:49:17 2008 From: m.brouillette at comcast.net (m.brouillette at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:49:17 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Healey 4 Seater Hard Top F/S Message-ID: <070220081749.1540.486BBF9D000980A40000060422070208530A9B9B0A0404079A019D0DD203@comcast.net> Folks, I have to be honest, I have no problem with the gentleman putting his hardtop on Ebay with a reasonable "buy it now" price as he did, and then letting us know about it. Why not? He's just advertising a part that he wishes to sell, that we may want or not, but it gets the word out that the part is available, and Ebay just expands his base of sale because folks, we aren't the only Healey owners out there and some of the non list ones do peruse Ebay and other spots. How is this different than a guy who makes reproduction steering wheels mentioning that or a rear end gear set, or a Healey shop who answers questions, but has a sales pitch on an email tag? I'll be the first to admit, I have bought from a number of people that have advertised parts here and some of them had them listed on Ebay. Guys, life's too short to get worked up about this stuff, and knowing the average age of us all, some of us probably can't handle the excitement anyways according to the doctors... JMHO, Mike Brouillette 59 BT7 -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Ed's Shop" > NOT to keep this thing going, but hopefully put it to rest: > > < were put up on EBay and THEN mentioned here on the list. (correct me if I am > wrong). And--the writer thought it would have been better to have offered them > to the list first and then, if they didn't sell here, put them up on EBay.>> > > Tom, you hit the nail on the HEAD !! Done very poorly, IMHO. > > <> > > Qualifies for Understatement of The Year!! > > Ed > > PS: I might add that you & Rick will only get this ON List because I ALWAYS the > EXTRA 10 SECONDS to amend the "Reply All:" so that it ONLY goes to the List. > Phew, a TON of VERY "hard work"!! From robert.w.johnson at charter.net Wed Jul 2 15:01:03 2008 From: robert.w.johnson at charter.net (Bob Johnson) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 17:01:03 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Paint Formulation and Brand Message-ID: <00bb01c8dc86$bd718140$021919ac@valued28addca9> My 66 BJ8 needs to be repainted. It is and will remain BRG. The one guy that I've talked to wants to use base coat/ clear coat. Maybe that is OK, I don't know how to visualize what I've never seen. Last time that it was painted was about 1979 with a single stage paint, probably an acrylic enamel??? Opinions please on single stage and bc/cc in BRG. What about paint brands? I know some people feel that bc/cc is too shiny, but the paint on my car where it is good and is waxed is really shiny too. And, don't I want it to be shiny? I think so, but I don't know how to guess how shiny "too shiny" is. Anyone have actual experience here? Happy or disappointed? I'd like to hear. BTW, did you know that cat pee turns BRG blue? Its true! I can show you evidence (UUhhh). Thanks, Bob Johnson BJ8 From phillip.leslie at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 2 15:32:31 2008 From: phillip.leslie at sbcglobal.net (Phillip Leslie) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 14:32:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Window glass for BJ8 Message-ID: <177982.94098.qm@web83108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Does anyone have a good source for a BJ8 window glass? My right side window recently exploded. From donyarber at earthlink.net Wed Jul 2 15:37:23 2008 From: donyarber at earthlink.net (Don Yarber) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 16:37:23 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Help with cell phone infor (NO HEALEY CONTENT) Message-ID: <000801c8dc8b$d19077d0$2450e104@yourc8bh3jaglt> Hi: I do not have a regular cell phone but use the "Callwave" cell phone service and was carrying a phone in my car for emergency purposes only. That phone is now broken. Question: Can I buy a cell phone and program it with the same number as my "Callwave" cell phone? Thanks in Advance. Don (former BN7 Owner) Author of "Bodies and Beaches" and "Corpses and Canyons" Find news about my books at www.kipyardleymysteries.com From dwflagg at juno.com Wed Jul 2 15:46:40 2008 From: dwflagg at juno.com (Douglas W Flagg) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 17:46:40 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Lucas Part Message-ID: <20080702.174640.340.1.dwflagg@juno.com> Ed, et all They appear to be a head lamp base. Round phenolic with a compressed fiber base. One side has the three slots for the head lamp and the other has three corresponding holes with the older style "bullet" connectors. Did I tell enough **? WHAT is it, Doug?? NARROWS the "per parts catalog" sorta search!! Tell the List !!! ____________________________________________________________ Sweepstakes!!! Enter for your chance to WIN a summer spa getaway! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/JKFkuJi7UjktHd6fi7cXhHEMDqZm3qwXwLwXstKr1wLdqdoBPRwQx2/ From RonFineEsq at earthlink.net Wed Jul 2 16:22:36 2008 From: RonFineEsq at earthlink.net (Ron Fine) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 15:22:36 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Replacement Radiator Fan Message-ID: I need to replace my radiator fan (original 6 blade) because it lost one of the blades on two day ago while I was 50 miles north of San Diego on my way to Conclave. I will post more information and my impressions of my first Healey conclave later. For now, I am trying to decide which replacement sold by Moss to buy. There is a red 5 blade plastic fan or a 6 blade SS (flex blade) fan to pick from. Has anyone had any negative experience with either of these fans?? Ron Fine 61BN7 ( in need of some repairs) From autofarm at cyg.net Wed Jul 2 16:27:10 2008 From: autofarm at cyg.net (Bob Yule) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 18:27:10 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Window glass for BJ8 References: <177982.94098.qm@web83108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003f01c8dc92$c62db7c0$6500a8c0@OFFICE> We have them in stock. Cheers.......Bob Check out our web site www.autofarm.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phillip Leslie" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:32 PM Subject: [Healeys] Window glass for BJ8 > Does anyone have a good source for a BJ8 window glass? My right side > window recently exploded. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as autofarm at cyg.net > > http://www.team.net/archive -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.134 / Virus Database: 270.4.3/1528 - Release Date: 7/1/2008 7:26 AM From Awgertoo at aol.com Wed Jul 2 16:30:42 2008 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 18:30:42 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Replacement Radiator Fan Message-ID: Ron-- I had a negative experience with a five-blade plastic fan made by another supplier (DW)--after several years' use the tips were pulled permanently forward approximately one inch at rest and even more at revs which probably did little for its efficiency. I replaced it with a steel flex-fan supplied by British Car Specialties (Nock) which made a substantial difference in the car's abiility to tolerate high temps and bouts of traffic, etc. It is a bit noisier but that never bothered me. The BCS fan required a bit of adapting to fit over the hub of the pulley but I don't think this is necessary on six-cylinder cars. Best--Michael Oritt ---------------------------------------------------- In a message dated 7/2/2008 6:22:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, RonFineEsq at earthlink.net writes: There is a red 5 blade plastic fan or a 6 blade SS (flex blade) fan to pick from. Has anyone had any negative experience with either of these fans?? **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (www.tourtracker.com ?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) From csooch1 at aol.com Wed Jul 2 17:40:51 2008 From: csooch1 at aol.com (Chris Masucci) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 18:40:51 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Help with cell phone infor (NO HEALEY CONTENT) In-Reply-To: <000801c8dc8b$d19077d0$2450e104@yourc8bh3jaglt> Message-ID: Does it have a SIM card? Meaning, does it have a 5/8" by 3/4" thin card under the battery? If so, you might be able to put that SIM card in any other GSM cell phone and connect to the network. If not, chances are you have to start over or go back to the phone supplier to get a replacement. Cheers, Chris -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+chris.masucci=alumni.rutgers.edu at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+chris.masucci=alumni.rutgers.edu at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Don Yarber Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 4:37 PM To: Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Help with cell phone infor (NO HEALEY CONTENT) Hi: I do not have a regular cell phone but use the "Callwave" cell phone service and was carrying a phone in my car for emergency purposes only. That phone is now broken. Question: Can I buy a cell phone and program it with the same number as my "Callwave" cell phone? Thanks in Advance. Don (former BN7 Owner) Author of "Bodies and Beaches" and "Corpses and Canyons" Find news about my books at www.kipyardleymysteries.com Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as chris.masucci at alumni.rutgers.edu http://www.team.net/archive From Editorgary at aol.com Wed Jul 2 17:45:43 2008 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 19:45:43 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Three degrees of separation Message-ID: In a message dated 7/1/08 5:35:49 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > > So who was Gary Anderson traveling with when he ran into my brother in > law in San Clemente? > > I love living in a small town... > Yo, Ron... The traveling band your brother-in-law met, slightly shell-shocked from driving on those interstate highways you folks down here consider reasonable means to travel from one place to another, were Smith Brody, me, Jeff and Dawn Mach in a bugeye, and John Wilson with his fiance Joan. So why aren't you here in San Diego at the meet? John Hunt's brand new (way too bright red) Nash Healey coupe was a big hit at the show today. I'm driving back on Saturday, probably with George Henke, and plan to take Interhell 5 up to San Clemente, then take Highway 1 from San Clemente to Oxnard before picking up 101. All these silly Angelenos say, "why would you want to do that? It's going to take an hour longer than if you go I5 to I405." I try to explain that I actually prefer driving 40 miles an hour along the beach road, stopping occasionally at red lights to look around and enjoy the scenery, rather than driving 80 mph to stay up with traffic, while cursing the woman on her cell phone (hands-free? what a joke) in her SUV who is moving over into my lane, unaware that I am occupying the space already into which she is moving. In any case, it's been a nice meet so far, and the trip home should be pleasant (even with the smoke and Highway 1 closed north of Cambria. Cheers Gary ************** Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (www.tourtracker.com ?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) From healey3000bn7 at yahoo.com Wed Jul 2 17:55:55 2008 From: healey3000bn7 at yahoo.com (Carlos Cruz) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 16:55:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Replacement Radiator Fan In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <94625.95572.qm@web50002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Ron, I had the SS flex fan from Moss for a while before my rebuild. It's ok at best when at speed and downright sucks in slow, stop and go traffic. Probably because it doesn't flex at slow speeds. Now I run the 5 blade fan and it works well. Been on for 3 years with no overheating issues. I may still have the flex fan at home. You're welcome to it. I can ship it tomorrow overnight if you need it in SD, CA. Just reimburse me for the shipping. Let me know Hope that helps. Cheers, Carlos Ron Fine wrote: I need to replace my radiator fan (original 6 blade) because it lost one of the blades on two day ago while I was 50 miles north of San Diego on my way to Conclave. I will post more information and my impressions of my first Healey conclave later. For now, I am trying to decide which replacement sold by Moss to buy. There is a red 5 blade plastic fan or a 6 blade SS (flex blade) fan to pick from. Has anyone had any negative experience with either of these fans?? Ron Fine 61BN7 ( in need of some repairs) _______________________________________________ From healey3000bn7 at yahoo.com Wed Jul 2 17:58:44 2008 From: healey3000bn7 at yahoo.com (Carlos Cruz) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 16:58:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Help with cell phone infor (NO HEALEY CONTENT) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <533906.53859.qm@web50001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Do you suppose the cell phone chat list ever has a question about Healeys? :-) Chris Masucci wrote: Does it have a SIM card? Meaning, does it have a 5/8" by 3/4" thin card under the battery? If so, you might be able to put that SIM card in any other GSM cell phone and connect to the network. If not, chances are you have to start over or go back to the phone supplier to get a replacement. Cheers, Chris -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+chris.masucci=alumni.rutgers.edu at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+chris.masucci=alumni.rutgers.edu at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Don Yarber Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 4:37 PM To: Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Help with cell phone infor (NO HEALEY CONTENT) Hi: I do not have a regular cell phone but use the "Callwave" cell phone service and was carrying a phone in my car for emergency purposes only. That phone is now broken. Question: Can I buy a cell phone and program it with the same number as my "Callwave" cell phone? Thanks in Advance. Don (former BN7 Owner) Author of "Bodies and Beaches" and "Corpses and Canyons" From sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au Wed Jul 2 18:15:02 2008 From: sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au (sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 10:15:02 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Precious and Spares Message-ID: <1215044102.486c1a063c3b9@webmail.hotkey.net.au> Just a simple opinion but are we not becoming way too precious about the protocols and procedures some consider should exist.IF you had lived in Australia back in the sixtys when Healeys were fully imported in small nos. and within a few ( 4-5 ) years the spares supply chain meant finding a wrecking yard or anyone's back yard with part of a Healey in it. This was a problem in itself as people learnt to be very secretative about theis stash. But if yiu were so lucky to find your own it required crawling under cars with flat tyres in long grass, chassis inhabited with Australia's second most poisioness spider and several killer snakes. That only became a problem if the mad dog had not chewed you to pieces on the way in. I hated it when the dog hid and waited until you had removed the parts you wanted and then attacked on the way out. This often resulteed in you dropping the rare part on the way to the nearest fence.NOW we sit in comfort and tick a box,compare prices and quality or look on ebay.How easy is that? Joe From tomfelts at windstream.net Wed Jul 2 18:19:01 2008 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (tomfelts at windstream.net) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 20:19:01 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Window glass for BJ8 Message-ID: <20080703001901.IGLT22346.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> New or used? I have a used one in decent shape.. But---I'm going out of town in the AM for 4 days. Let me know. tom > > From: Phillip Leslie > Date: 2008/07/02 Wed PM 05:32:31 EDT > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] Window glass for BJ8 > > Does anyone have a good source for a BJ8 window glass? My right side window recently exploded. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From shop at justbrits.com Wed Jul 2 19:19:51 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 19:19:51 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Replacement Radiator Fan References: <94625.95572.qm@web50002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <014301c8dcaa$e4f0b370$6501a8c0@shop> <> Ditto, Carlos. I have done mt town's 4th parade several times in BAD heat weather w/o probs (unless 200 degress is a prob - not). "Hortnese" ('63 BJ-7 wearing STD IL plates AH BJ 7 ) From tomfelts at windstream.net Wed Jul 2 18:32:28 2008 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (tomfelts at windstream.net) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 20:32:28 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Replacement Radiator Fan Message-ID: <20080703003228.UARS29060.ispmxmta06-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> FWIW, I drove back from Va Beach area to Pittsburgh Sunday ~ 97 degree temp. when I got to Richmond Va, and got on I95, it was bumper to bumper stop and go most of the way to Fredricksburg (~55 miles). I have a steel 6 bladed fan on my BJ8 and the car never got over 212. She ran like a champ. Then when I got to Breezewood, the sky opened up and it poured down. This was after dark on the Pa Tpk and it was a bit nerve racking. The little BJ8 just purred along at 65, wipers flapping wildly, while letting the super fast 18 wheelers go right on by. I must admit though that I felt a lot better when I reached my exit from the Tpk to more calm roads! These are amazing cars though---and----I had very few water leaks in the pour down, which was a pleasant surprise for me. One thing I learned---the drivers in Pittsburgh and surrounding areas are much friendlier and saner drivers than those in the Va Beach and I95 areas. I've never seen so many go so fast with such attitudes in a long while. It was good to get back to easy-going Pittsburgh. Tom > > From: "Ed's Shop" > Date: 2008/07/02 Wed PM 09:19:51 EDT > To: > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Replacement Radiator Fan > > <> > > Ditto, Carlos. I have done mt town's 4th parade several times in BAD heat weather w/o probs (unless 200 degress is a prob - not). > > "Hortnese" > ('63 BJ-7 wearing STD IL plates AH BJ 7 ) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From tomfelts at windstream.net Wed Jul 2 18:34:43 2008 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (tomfelts at windstream.net) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 20:34:43 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Paint Formulation and Brand Message-ID: <20080703003443.JBOX22346.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> My BJ8 is BC CC in Healey Blue. It gets its' share of compliments and I think looks great. not to shiny at all. tom > > From: "Bob Johnson" > Date: 2008/07/02 Wed PM 05:01:03 EDT > To: "Healeys" > Subject: [Healeys] Paint Formulation and Brand > > My 66 BJ8 needs to be repainted. It is and will remain BRG. The one guy that > I've talked to wants to use base coat/ clear coat. Maybe that is OK, I don't > know how to visualize what I've never seen. Last time that it was painted was > about 1979 with a single stage paint, probably an acrylic enamel??? Opinions > please on single stage and bc/cc in BRG. What about paint brands? > > I know some people feel that bc/cc is too shiny, but the paint on my car where > it is good and is waxed is really shiny too. And, don't I want it to be shiny? > I think so, but I don't know how to guess how shiny "too shiny" is. Anyone > have actual experience here? Happy or disappointed? I'd like to hear. > > BTW, did you know that cat pee turns BRG blue? Its true! I can show you > evidence (UUhhh). > > Thanks, > > Bob Johnson > BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 2 18:37:48 2008 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 20:37:48 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Healey 4 Seater Hard Top F/S References: <070120081728.12109.486A693B000B025900002F4D220073747897900E0A0403019B@comcast.net> Message-ID: <003d01c8dca5$061c9470$f041e046@markl946cfrd7q> Well , alrighty then. I guess I over stepped my bounds somewhere along the way. I will be the mature adult and apologize here. I don't think I have seen that many 4 letter words in one email since I got on the list in 95. You should have read the "Personal Email", my screen was Smokin. That was just my personal comment Thomas, and as far as I know that is allowed on the list, however your 4 letter words are up for debate. Hope you do well on your ebay sale Thomas and God help the bidder if he doesn't pay up. By the way Thomas what did you mean when you called me a pussy. I haven't heard that one since high school, thanks for the memories. Peace Bro, Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey 4 Seater Hard Top F/S > Mark- > > I didn't just stumble into your private room. I've read this list Jackass. > Everyday. If you weren't interested in the heading, than you should'nt > have read it. Others were, and they replied. That's how a list works. > > Like many of the subscribers, I enjoy reading the contributions of many of > the listers. I have learned alot about Healeys, and along the way have > also learned about how the list works. It's a community of people sharing > a common interest. Like any community, however, there are always just a > few who don't get on well with others. They lack humility and have an > overinflated perception of the value of their opinion > > If you can't keep your snide comments to yourself, than shut the fuck up > entirely. Go join some other list where people just flame each other > instead of sticking to the topic. That might be the best thing to do, > because the rest of us are sick and tired of listening to assholes like > you on this list. Dickhead. > > -- > Thomas Leavy > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as lapierrem at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 2 19:39:41 2008 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 21:39:41 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Replacement Radiator Fan References: Message-ID: <005e01c8dcae$13452d20$f041e046@markl946cfrd7q> Sorry Ron, I have switched to the Texas Cooler but haven't experienced a high heat issue yet , since install, to comment. However I did have a question on the same topic. This fan issue has come up before but I don't recall any mention of preventative maintenance that can be taken to prevent a blade from flying. Has anyone tried adding a couple of pop rivets, J B weld or even a couple of spot welds to the fan blades to keep them in place without throwing the fans off balance. I assume this would have to be done evenly on all of the blades. This "flying blade syndrome" puts a whole new meaning to the checking under the hood routine. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Fine" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 6:22 PM Subject: [Healeys] Replacement Radiator Fan >I need to replace my radiator fan (original 6 blade) because it lost one of > the blades on two day ago while I was 50 miles north of San Diego on my > way to > Conclave. I will post more information and my impressions of my first > Healey > conclave later. For now, I am trying to decide which replacement sold by > Moss > to buy. There is a red 5 blade plastic fan or a 6 blade SS (flex blade) > fan > to pick from. Has anyone had any negative experience with either of these > fans?? > > Ron Fine > 61BN7 ( in need of some repairs) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as lapierrem at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From bjcap at optonline.net Wed Jul 2 21:13:48 2008 From: bjcap at optonline.net (Carroll A Phillips) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 23:13:48 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] re paint formulation Message-ID: <002f01c8dcba$cffab140$6401a8c0@carrolls> Bob, My experience as a full time resto shop and body /paint guy is for the metallics you are pretty much destined for a base/clear system. For solid colors you can go (my recomendation) a single stage urethane. Why, because the single stage will allow for spot repairs if needed and not having to reclear a whole panel and most importantly for darker colors the longevity of the surface from constant washings that will haze a clearcoat ( it scratches white ) Yes they will both will clean up with a polish or wet sand /buff but there is just a better look on a solid color to me with a single stage setup. As far as high gloss goes, it depends on the brand and / or type of urethane used. Consult your painter. Ive used a flattening agent on the single stage or clearcoats (top coats) to die down the gloss in my frame/engine bay/trunk/ all black parts/ top frame assy. ect. as the original enamels werent the same high gloss as modern urethanes are. Trick is to get it looking like the original. Your choice, some folks like it all glossy. Carroll Phillips Top Down Restorations From RonFineEsq at earthlink.net Wed Jul 2 22:33:26 2008 From: RonFineEsq at earthlink.net (Ron Fine) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 21:33:26 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Replacement Radiator Fan References: <005e01c8dcae$13452d20$f041e046@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: After taking a closer look at my fan today when I got home from San Diego, I can see that the blade broke at the point where the spoke on the center hub starts to twist. This is below the spot where the thin blade is riveted to the hub spoke. The thickest part of the metal fan where there are no rivets or other obvious reasons for the metal to fail. I'll try to post some photos later. When going through my restoration this fan was stripped of all paint and I examined it carefully for any obvious cracks. I did not have it checked by a machine shop but it certainly looked like it was in good condition before I repainted it. Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark LaPierre" To: "Ron Fine" ; Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 6:39 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Replacement Radiator Fan > Sorry Ron, I have switched to the Texas Cooler but haven't experienced a > high > heat issue yet , since install, to comment. > > However I did have a question on the same topic. > This fan issue has come up before but I don't recall any mention of > preventative maintenance that can be taken to prevent a blade from flying. > Has anyone > tried adding a couple of pop rivets, J B weld or even a couple of spot > welds to the fan blades to keep them in place without throwing the fans > off balance. > > I assume this would have to be done evenly on all of the blades. > > This "flying blade syndrome" puts a whole new meaning to the checking > under the hood > routine. From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Jul 2 22:44:14 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 12:44:14 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Replacement Radiator Fan In-Reply-To: References: <005e01c8dcae$13452d20$f041e046@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: Ron - You have to be thankful it didn't send a blade through the shroud or bonnet - I've seen pictures of that before! The metal fans that BCS sells are probably your best bet for cooling. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Ron Fine wrote: > After taking a closer look at my fan today when I got home from San Diego, I > can see that the blade broke at the point where the spoke on the center hub > starts to twist. This is below the spot where the thin blade is riveted to > the hub spoke. The thickest part of the metal fan where there are no rivets > or other obvious reasons for the metal to fail. I'll try to post some > photos later. When going through my restoration this fan was stripped of > all paint and I examined it carefully for any obvious cracks. I did not > have it checked by a machine shop but it certainly looked like it was in > good condition before I repainted it. > Ron > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark LaPierre" > To: "Ron Fine" ; > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 6:39 PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Replacement Radiator Fan > > >> Sorry Ron, I have switched to the Texas Cooler but haven't experienced a >> high >> heat issue yet , since install, to comment. >> >> However I did have a question on the same topic. >> This fan issue has come up before but I don't recall any mention of >> preventative maintenance that can be taken to prevent a blade from flying. >> Has anyone >> tried adding a couple of pop rivets, J B weld or even a couple of spot >> welds to the fan blades to keep them in place without throwing the fans >> off balance. >> >> I assume this would have to be done evenly on all of the blades. >> >> This "flying blade syndrome" puts a whole new meaning to the checking >> under the hood >> routine. From richard.ewald at gmail.com Wed Jul 2 23:02:14 2008 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 22:02:14 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Replacement Radiator Fan In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I had a SS fan on one of my cars once. Worked great, but noisy as hell at speed. On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Ron Fine wrote: > I need to replace my radiator fan (original 6 blade) because it lost one of > the blades on two day ago while I was 50 miles north of San Diego on my way > to > Conclave. I will post more information and my impressions of my first > Healey > conclave later. For now, I am trying to decide which replacement sold by > Moss > to buy. There is a red 5 blade plastic fan or a 6 blade SS (flex blade) > fan > to pick from. Has anyone had any negative experience with either of these > fans?? > > Ron Fine > 61BN7 ( in need of some repairs) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richard.ewald at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From joemulqueen at yahoo.com Wed Jul 2 23:53:28 2008 From: joemulqueen at yahoo.com (joe mulqueen) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 22:53:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Healey 4 Seater Hard Top F/S Message-ID: <948596.27275.qm@web82207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> People advertising their ebay auction are usually advertsing "an auction"....regardless of the "buy it now" price. Advertising an auction on this list just seems odd to alot of people..including odd I. JoeM '60 BT7 project Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:49:17 +0000 From: m.brouillette at comcast.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey 4 Seater Hard Top F/S To: healeys at autox.team.net Cc: Ed's Shop Message-ID: Folks, I have to be honest, I have no problem with the gentleman putting his hardtop on Ebay with a reasonable "buy it now" price as he did, and then letting us know about it. Why not? He's just advertising a part that he wishes to sell, that we may want or not, but it gets the word out that the part is available, and Ebay just expands his base of sale because folks, we aren't the only Healey owners out there and some of the non list ones From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 02:34:56 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 16:34:56 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Healey 4 Seater Hard Top F/S In-Reply-To: <948596.27275.qm@web82207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <948596.27275.qm@web82207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yes, there's no law against people promoting their ebay items here, which is perfectly fine as far as I'm concerned. That being said I've always felt the "price" I pay to all of you for your help over the years is to offer bits that I have to you first - sometimes give them away. I've done this several times with some pretty valuable stuff (like the pair of original factory BJ8 front disc wheel hubs I sold for $100 to a list member - ok maybe I undercharged for that one!). Either way you guys have been great to me over the years so when I have stuff to unload I will always go here first. Speaking of which I've got an item to put to the list... Best, Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 1:53 PM, joe mulqueen wrote: > People advertising their ebay auction are usually > advertsing "an auction"....regardless of the "buy it > now" price. Advertising an auction on this list just > seems odd to alot of people..including odd I. > JoeM > '60 BT7 project > > > Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:49:17 +0000 > From: m.brouillette at comcast.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey 4 Seater Hard Top F/S > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Cc: Ed's Shop > Message-ID: > > > Folks, > > I have to be honest, I have no problem with the > gentleman putting his hardtop on Ebay with a > reasonable "buy it now" price as he did, and > then letting us know about it. > > Why not? He's just advertising a part that he > wishes to sell, that > we may want or not, but it gets the word out that the > part is available, > and Ebay just expands his base of sale because folks, > we aren't the > only Healey owners out there and some of the non list > ones > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From twillig at ruda.de Thu Jul 3 03:35:45 2008 From: twillig at ruda.de (Thomas Willig) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 11:35:45 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] DMH's 100. Birthday Message-ID: <0807031135485300@ruda.de> Please remember Donald Michell Healey *3. July 1898  13. Januar 1988 Happy Healying Thomas Willig From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 3 03:37:29 2008 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 05:37:29 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Replacement Radiator Fan Message-ID: <000b01c8dcf0$69f70fc0$b429e046@markl946cfrd7q> Sorry for this resend. I don't think it went through the first time. Mark > Sorry Ron, I have switched to the Texas Cooler but haven't experienced a > high > heat issue yet . So I can't comment on its success. > However I did have a question on the same topic. > This fan issue has come up before but I don't recall any mention of > preventative maintenance that can be taken to prevent a blade from flying. > Has anyone > tried adding a couple of pop rivets, J B weld or even a couple of spot > welds to the fan blades to keep them in place without throwing the fans > off balance. > > I assume this would have to be done evenly on all of the blades. > > This "flying blade syndrome" puts a whole new meaning to the checking > under the hood > routine. > > > > Mark > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Fine" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 6:22 PM > Subject: [Healeys] Replacement Radiator Fan > > >>I need to replace my radiator fan (original 6 blade) because it lost one >>of >> the blades on two day ago while I was 50 miles north of San Diego on my >> way to >> Conclave. I will post more information and my impressions of my first >> Healey >> conclave later. For now, I am trying to decide which replacement sold by >> Moss >> to buy. There is a red 5 blade plastic fan or a 6 blade SS (flex blade) >> fan >> to pick from. Has anyone had any negative experience with either of >> these >> fans?? >> >> Ron Fine >> 61BN7 ( in need of some repairs) >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as lapierrem at sbcglobal.net >> >> http://www.team.net/archive From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Thu Jul 3 03:41:00 2008 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 11:41:00 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] DMH's 100. Birthday In-Reply-To: <0807031135485300@ruda.de> References: <0807031135485300@ruda.de> Message-ID: <63B1A4D5F62C7B458A5B757A5EA8175004626E65@S4DE8PSAANH.t-systems.com> I thought he would be 110 today. Sorry could not refuse. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/Germany -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces+josef.eckert=t-systems.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+josef.eckert=t-systems.com at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Thomas Willig Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2008 11:36 An: healeys at autox.team.net Betreff: [Healeys] DMH's 100. Birthday Please remember Donald Michell Healey *3. July 1898  13. Januar 1988 Happy Healying Thomas Willig From shop at justbrits.com Thu Jul 3 04:43:23 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 04:43:23 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Healey 4 Seater Hard Top F/S References: <948596.27275.qm@web82207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00eb01c8dcf9$9eafade0$6501a8c0@shop> <> ABSOLUTELY, Alan !!! Personally, I would NOT think of going to eBay FIRST, but I WOULD "offer up" here FIRST. From twillig at ruda.de Thu Jul 3 04:31:38 2008 From: twillig at ruda.de (Thomas Willig) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 12:31:38 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] DMH's 100. Birthday In-Reply-To: <63B1A4D5F62C7B458A5B757A5EA8175004626E65@S4DE8PSAANH.t-systems.com> Message-ID: <0807031231422600@ruda.de> As one can see I'am in cars not in calculations. Stupid me... Thomas -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com [mailto:Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2008 11:41 An: twillig at ruda.de; Betreff: AW: [Healeys] DMH's 100. Birthday I thought he would be 110 today. Sorry could not refuse. Josef Eckert Konigswinter/Germany -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces+josef.eckert=t-systems.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+josef.eckert=t-systems.com at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Thomas Willig Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2008 11:36 An: healeys at autox.team.net Betreff: [Healeys] DMH's 100. Birthday Please remember Donald Michell Healey *3. July 1898  13. Januar 1988 Happy Healying Thomas Willig From bighealey at charter.net Thu Jul 3 06:51:56 2008 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 05:51:56 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] knock In-Reply-To: <009e01c8dbfd$02de6fc0$5201a8c0@Jim> Message-ID: <002001c8dd0b$93dca9b0$1002a8c0@TRACY> Jim, Check the clevis pin and the hole in the brake pedal itself. Sounds odd but the free play from wear can cause a thump which reverberates through the firewall making it real tough to tell where the sound comes from. Not bad things to check anyway as the pins are pretty soft and get worn after 45 years. You will also be able to validate why you will never qualify as a contortionist! Warm regards, Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! President AHCUSA www.healey.org -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+bighealey=charter.net at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+bighealey=charter.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of James Shope Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 9:35 PM To: healeys Subject: [Healeys] knock have a bj8 in the club that has a knock in left front wheel when brakes are applied. could also be on pax side but am too deaf to hear it. have looked at brake pads and calipers, hubs, bearings, steering links and boxes, kingpins and anything else that looks suspicious. does not seem to do it while in reverse. any ideas? healeymanjim Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as bighealey at charter.net http://www.team.net/archive From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Jul 3 08:06:18 2008 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 07:06:18 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] knock In-Reply-To: <002001c8dd0b$93dca9b0$1002a8c0@TRACY> References: <002001c8dd0b$93dca9b0$1002a8c0@TRACY> Message-ID: <486CDCDA.3070401@comcast.net> Is it a single knock, or continuous? If the latter, consider uneven pad material buildup on the rotor. See here: http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp_warped_brakedisk.shtml Lots of other good info on this site as well. bs Tracy Drummond wrote: > Jim, > > Check the clevis pin and the hole in the brake pedal itself. Sounds odd but > the free play from wear can cause a thump which reverberates through the > firewall making it real tough to tell where the sound comes from. Not bad > things to check anyway as the pins are pretty soft and get worn after 45 > years. You will also be able to validate why you will never qualify as a > contortionist! > > Warm regards, > > Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! > President AHCUSA www.healey.org > > > Subject: [Healeys] knock > > have a bj8 in the club that has a knock in left front wheel when brakes are > applied. could also be on pax side but am too deaf to hear it. have looked > at brake pads and calipers, hubs, bearings, steering links and boxes, > kingpins > and anything else that looks suspicious. does not seem to do it while in > reverse. any ideas? healeymanjim > ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From Hartangus at aol.com Thu Jul 3 09:53:16 2008 From: Hartangus at aol.com (Hartangus at aol.com) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 11:53:16 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Canada day Message-ID: Hi Josef, thanks for your kind words.I would have very much liked to have met you in Sweden, but the cost is prohibitive.however I do take the Healey to the Continent occasionally and when next Ido I will try to contact you. Bill, I was'nt aware I had my tits in a wringer but you can rest assured you will be the last person I contact in that event. Alan, how in the name of all thats holy did we get from me wishing Canadians a happy Canada day to Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia, Iraq and Afghanistan Regards Barrie from England From tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl Thu Jul 3 11:35:45 2008 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:35:45 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] AH 100 first driving impressions - Boy this is fun!... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000601c8dd33$3941e6f0$0200a8c0@tm4> As always, many thanks for help!.. The list is always most helpful.. I have checked my oil pressure, and it seems I do not go below 35 lb at idle (which is about 1000 rpm). The cursing oil pressure is at about 50 lb. This should be alright? The water temperature does not go above 190F standing in traffic on a hot (95F) day.. My transmission is too tight - I think I might check If I should install some extra shim on the column end, as unscrewing the adjuster nut does not help much.. I have checked my suspension today and I have: Caster: L: 0.83 deg R: 1.30 deg Book: 1.45 deg Camber: L: +0.50 deg R: -0.33 deg Book: 1.00 deg The toe was set to almost 0. Are these values ok?? Many thanks for help, Tadek From 62bt7 at prodigy.net Thu Jul 3 12:42:10 2008 From: 62bt7 at prodigy.net (62bt7) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 11:42:10 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] DMH, July 3, 1898 !!!! (110 years) Message-ID: <023601c8dd3c$8287e720$6a35480c@kirkgrbymz8g9u> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "62bt7" <62bt7 at prodigy.net> To: Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:05 PM Subject: DMH, July 3, 1898 !!!! (110 years) On July 3, 1898, Donald Mitchell Healey, C.B.E. was born. (Commander of the British Empire) July 3, 1898 - January 15, 1988 -------------------------------------------------------------- Thursday, July 3, 2008 is the 110th anniversary of his birth. In celebration of this event in history, we all should dip our British and or National Flags if we have them....... Sip a little Lord Calvert, start our (Austin) Engines, Honk our (Lucas) Horns, and Drive our (Donald Healey) Cars in his honor, and to the survivors of his family who still honor us, his fans. (Lest we forget, if not for his family, DMH would not have become who he is) Just think for a moment....... where would we all be today if not for.... DONALD MITCHELL HEALEY C.B.E. CHEERS TO YOU DONALD, YOU'LL ALWAYS HAVE MY VOTE Kirk Kvam Playing with Healey's since 1961 62BT7 Tri-Carb 60BN7 (#405) Nasty Boy [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of vet resized.jpg] From steveg at abrazosdata.com Thu Jul 3 15:11:15 2008 From: steveg at abrazosdata.com (Steve B. Gerow) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:11:15 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] loud clatter & conclave followup Message-ID: Just got back from Conclave in San Diego--short distance but high heat content. Left San Diego for Altadena (N of Pasadena, 142 miles one way via the inland route). Had added STP Red to my Shell 20-50 oil prior to trip. Added Marvel Mystery Oil at all fillups to prevent any [what I think is] valve train clatter. No clatter heard at any time. Today approx 125 of the 142 miles was at 95+ degrees ambient. Car ran at 190+ to 205 the whole time. 3000 rpms used as max cruise. 14.1 mpg on premium--no fuel problems or hesitation of any kind. Stopped for lunch at Tudy's Tacos in Corona where it was around 90; no flooding on restart 20 min later with engine around 212. Cooling system is clean, 3 yr old core, 6 blade Nock fan with beefed shroud, 100% purified water with Water Wetter & water pump lube. Stock 7lb cap. 1/4 quart of oil used in trip which was around 350 miles total. FWIW -- Steve Gerow Pasadena CA 59 BN6 From steveg at abrazosdata.com Thu Jul 3 15:17:31 2008 From: steveg at abrazosdata.com (Steve B. Gerow) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:17:31 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] zddp followup Message-ID: At conclave we had a tech session by the owner of APT in Riverside, CA, who are an engine builder and cam grinder for BMC A & B-series engines and Triumphs. He stated the feeling at present in his industry seems to be that we all need to be adding a ZDDP additive at every oil change. He said (hope I'm not mischaracterizing this) Valvoline Racing is the only mainstream oil currently available that contains a usable amount of ZDDP. Another person reported there is info on Valvoline's website detailing the amount of ZDDP in the racing oil. -- Steve Gerow Pasadena CA 59 BN6 From steveg at abrazosdata.com Thu Jul 3 15:32:45 2008 From: steveg at abrazosdata.com (Steve B. Gerow) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:32:45 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fan ideas Message-ID: Ron, First of all have to say the person who advocated drilling any kind of holes in their stock fan is out of line. This could be a recipe for disaster! I have the 6-bladed SS fan BCS sells (might be Moss). The hub and rivets in this fan are very stout, especially since the fan blades are lightweight compared to the original Queen Mary-style blades. They also sell a spacer needed to move it closer to the radiator. I'm also using a beefed Kilmartin fan shroud that fits tight against the radiator and allows less leakage than the one BCS sells. In addition, I added a blanking plate across the area between the radiator and front of the hood opening. They do make a lot of fan noise. They sound similar to my wife's original 240Z with a stock plastic fan on a hydraulic clutch--I've always thought these fans have a funky sound--when the car makes more fan noise than anything else. I'll bet the plastic fans make the same level of noise. The solution to this on the Healey is simple--just add a louder exhaust or rev it up higher in gears :-). -- Steve Gerow Pasadena CA 59 BN6 From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Jul 3 16:06:47 2008 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:06:47 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fan ideas In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <486D4D77.6030901@comcast.net> re: "I'll bet the plastic fans make the same level of noise." Nope. bs Steve B. Gerow wrote: > Ron, > First of all have to say the person who advocated drilling any kind of holes > in their stock fan is out of line. This could be a recipe for disaster! > > I have the 6-bladed SS fan BCS sells (might be Moss). The hub and rivets in > this fan are very stout, especially since the fan blades are lightweight > compared to the original Queen Mary-style blades. They also sell a spacer > needed to move it closer to the radiator. > > I'm also using a beefed Kilmartin fan shroud that fits tight against the > radiator and allows less leakage than the one BCS sells. In addition, I > added a blanking plate across the area between the radiator and front of the > hood opening. > > They do make a lot of fan noise. They sound similar to my wife's original > 240Z with a stock plastic fan on a hydraulic clutch--I've always thought > these fans have a funky sound--when the car makes more fan noise than > anything else. > > I'll bet the plastic fans make the same level of noise. > > The solution to this on the Healey is simple--just add a louder exhaust or > rev it up higher in gears :-). > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From jsoderling at astound.net Thu Jul 3 17:24:51 2008 From: jsoderling at astound.net (John Soderling) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 16:24:51 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fan ideas References: Message-ID: <007001c8dd63$fe9e09d0$6501a8c0@Soderling> My plastic "Texas Cooler" fan is very quiet. I've been around cars with the six-blade SS fan and they are quite noisy, much noisier than the plastic flex fan. Vrooom vrooom, John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve B. Gerow" To: Cc: "Healeys Newsgroup" Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fan ideas > Ron, > First of all have to say the person who advocated drilling any kind of > holes > in their stock fan is out of line. This could be a recipe for disaster! > > I have the 6-bladed SS fan BCS sells (might be Moss). The hub and rivets > in > this fan are very stout, especially since the fan blades are lightweight > compared to the original Queen Mary-style blades. They also sell a spacer > needed to move it closer to the radiator. > > I'm also using a beefed Kilmartin fan shroud that fits tight against the > radiator and allows less leakage than the one BCS sells. In addition, I > added a blanking plate across the area between the radiator and front of > the > hood opening. > > They do make a lot of fan noise. They sound similar to my wife's original > 240Z with a stock plastic fan on a hydraulic clutch--I've always thought > these fans have a funky sound--when the car makes more fan noise than > anything else. > > I'll bet the plastic fans make the same level of noise. > > The solution to this on the Healey is simple--just add a louder exhaust or > rev it up higher in gears :-). > -- > Steve Gerow > Pasadena CA > 59 BN6 From ah53 at yahoo.com Thu Jul 3 17:57:21 2008 From: ah53 at yahoo.com (jomar healey) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 16:57:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Hot Brakes Message-ID: <801875.4198.qm@web31501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I just came back from a short ride in the BJ8, air temp was in the high 88's. Just before I got to my driveway I hit the brakes to stop at an intersection and experienced a hard pedal and brake fade. I tossed some water on the discs when i got home and it steamed right off. Up to this the car had been running great. It has been awhile since I did the brakes, about 10 years, so I'm guessing it might be time to replace the brake fluid and brake hoses. Does this sound like a good place to start? Thanks Joe '53 BN1 #923 Coronet Cream '56 100M '67 BJ8 Just a great car From eorr at cogeco.ca Thu Jul 3 18:11:18 2008 From: eorr at cogeco.ca (Ed Orr) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 20:11:18 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] zddp followup References: Message-ID: <003101c8dd6a$7bc48e10$0300a8c0@HP29887285263> Steve do you know if Valvoline Racing oil is available in 20-50 grade . Ed Orr ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve B. Gerow" To: "Healeys Newsgroup" Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 5:17 PM Subject: [Healeys] zddp followup > At conclave we had a tech session by the owner of APT in Riverside, CA, > who > are an engine builder and cam grinder for BMC A & B-series engines and > Triumphs. > > He stated the feeling at present in his industry seems to be that we all > need to be adding a ZDDP additive at every oil change. > > He said (hope I'm not mischaracterizing this) Valvoline Racing is the only > mainstream oil currently available that contains a usable amount of ZDDP. > > Another person reported there is info on Valvoline's website detailing the > amount of ZDDP in the racing oil. > > -- > Steve Gerow > Pasadena CA > 59 BN6 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eorr at cogeco.ca > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > > E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (5.5.1.322) > Database version: 5.10180e > http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor/ -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1077 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (5.5.1.322) Database version: 5.10180e http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor/ From amalin at mac.com Thu Jul 3 18:40:55 2008 From: amalin at mac.com (Al Malin) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 20:40:55 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] zddp followup In-Reply-To: <003101c8dd6a$7bc48e10$0300a8c0@HP29887285263> References: <003101c8dd6a$7bc48e10$0300a8c0@HP29887285263> Message-ID: Valvoline "VR1 Racing Oil" comes in 20W-50. They also have a "Conventional Racing Oil" and "Synthetic Racing oil" that is labeled "Not Street Legal". Their web site says it "Contains increased amounts of zinc for extra engine protection". In a call to Valvoline the guy said this oil should be changed every 500 miles. Al Malin Tricarb On Jul 3, 2008, at 8:11 PM, Ed Orr wrote: > Steve do you know if Valvoline Racing oil is available in 20-50 > grade . > > Ed Orr From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 18:43:38 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 08:43:38 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Hot Brakes In-Reply-To: <801875.4198.qm@web31501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <801875.4198.qm@web31501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Joe - You should replace standard brake fluid every couple of years at least, so yeah 10 years is pretty long. The brake discs will always be hot after a run, so that's not a surprise and tossing water on them really doesn't tell you much. If the discs are visibly blue from heat, then that's when you need to worry. If you are running alot of fast stop and goes, especially in the hills, you can get brake fade in the Healey. If you ever experience it, just pull over and wait 15 minutes or so in the shade if possible for stuff to cool down then motor along with normal driving. Best, Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 7:57 AM, jomar healey wrote: > I just came back from a short ride in the BJ8, air temp was in the high 88's. > Just before I got to my driveway I hit the brakes to stop at an intersection > and experienced a hard pedal and brake fade. I tossed some water on the discs > when i got home and it steamed right off. Up to this the car had been running > great. It has been awhile since I did the brakes, about 10 years, so I'm > guessing it might be time to replace the brake fluid and brake hoses. Does > this sound like a good place to start? > > Thanks > Joe > '53 BN1 #923 Coronet Cream > '56 100M > '67 BJ8 Just a great car > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 18:45:47 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 08:45:47 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Happy Birthday! Message-ID: Hi all you fellow Americans: It's July 4th here in HK already - so HAPPY BIRTHDAY! Alan PS I like how Canada just had to do their birthday celebration three days before ours! ;P From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 18:49:36 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 08:49:36 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Canada day In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Barrie - If you want I can probably also work "Gordon Brown" and "tits in a wringer" into this same discussion, let me know. Regards Alan from the colony that gave you the finger. '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 11:53 PM, wrote: > Hi Josef, > thanks for your kind words.I would have very much liked to have > met you in Sweden, but the cost > is prohibitive.however I do take the Healey to the Continent occasionally > and when next Ido I will try to contact you. > Bill, I was'nt aware I had my tits in a wringer but you can rest assured > you will be the last person I contact in that event. > Alan, how in the name of all thats holy did we get from me wishing > Canadians a happy Canada day to > Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia, Iraq and Afghanistan > Regards Barrie > from England From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net Thu Jul 3 19:18:45 2008 From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 18:18:45 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Healeys] 2008 VENTURA BRITISH CAR SHOW - July 27th - Oxnard Message-ID: <13671274.1215134325840.JavaMail.root@elwamui-sweet.atl.sa.earthlink.net> The Central Coast British Car Club Presents: THE EIGHTEENTH ANNUAL VENTURA COUNTY BRITISH CAR SHOW Channel Islands Harbour * July 27th, 2008 Join us for a great afternoon at our wonderful waterfront location at the Channel Islands Harbour. This year we are honoring the Austin Healey marque, featuring the 50th anniversary of the Bugeye Sprite. There will be food, entertainment, vendors, and a swap meet and some of the finest British Cars in Southern California. Oxnard is but a short and lovely drive up the coast from Los Angeles b Come to Oxnard, enjoy the show, enjoy the ride, be back by supper b SEE YOU THERE!!! Website: www.centralcoastbritishcarclub.com INFORMATION: Gary Rice (805) 644-3290 Bill Guzman (805) 484-1528 ******************************************************* From healeybn4 at aol.com Thu Jul 3 19:33:32 2008 From: healeybn4 at aol.com (healeybn4 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:33:32 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] zddp followup In-Reply-To: <003101c8dd6a$7bc48e10$0300a8c0@HP29887285263> References: <003101c8dd6a$7bc48e10$0300a8c0@HP29887285263> Message-ID: <8CAAB8D1AA074C4-1548-2A7F@mblk-d28.sysops.aol.com> I highly recommend VR1 20-50 racing oil.? Last year I finished a 5 year restoration of a 100 with a Denis Welch engine rebuilt in the UK.? The car was run in with about 300 miles before importation to the states.? I changed the oil to Castrol GTX 20-50 before Conclave last year.? The engine developed a modest oil leak from the rear main seal with the Castrol.? After several recommendations I changed to the Valvoline and it diminshed the oil leak and improved oil pressure by 3 to 5 pounds.? I have converted to VR1 on each on my English cars. Cheers,? Pete Sturtevant -----Original Message----- From: Ed Orr To: Steve B. Gerow ; Healeys Newsgroup Sent: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 8:11 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] zddp followup Steve do you know if Valvoline Racing oil is available in 20-50 grade . Ed Orr ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve B. Gerow" To: "Healeys Newsgroup" Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 5:17 PM Subject: [Healeys] zddp followup > At conclave we had a tech session by the owner of APT in Riverside, CA, > who > are an engine builder and cam grinder for BMC A & B-series engines and > Triumphs. > > He stated the feeling at present in his industry seems to be that we all > need to be adding a ZDDP additive at every oil change. > > He said (hope I'm not mischaracterizing this) Valvoline Racing is the only > mainstream oil currently available that contains a usable amount of ZDDP. > > Another person reported there is info on Valvoline's website detailing the > amount of ZDDP in the racing oil. > > -- > Steve Gerow > Pasadena CA > 59 BN6 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eorr at cogeco.ca > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > > E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (5.5.1.322) > Database version: 5.10180e > http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor/ -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1077 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (5.5.1.322) Database version: 5.10180e http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor/ Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as healeybn4 at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive From msalter at precisionsportscar.com Thu Jul 3 21:08:15 2008 From: msalter at precisionsportscar.com (Michael Salter) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 23:08:15 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] zddp followup In-Reply-To: <8CAAB8D1AA074C4-1548-2A7F@mblk-d28.sysops.aol.com> References: <003101c8dd6a$7bc48e10$0300a8c0@HP29887285263> <8CAAB8D1AA074C4-1548-2A7F@mblk-d28.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <002901c8dd83$340a1770$9c1e4650$@com> I love VR1 Read here about why I'm a fan. http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=39 Michael Salter -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of healeybn4 at aol.com Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 9:34 PM To: eorr at cogeco.ca; steveg at abrazosdata.com; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] zddp followup I highly recommend VR1 20-50 racing oil.? Last year I finished a 5 year restoration of a 100 with a Denis Welch engine rebuilt in the UK.? The car was run in with about 300 miles before importation to the states.? I changed the oil to Castrol GTX 20-50 before Conclave last year.? The engine developed a modest oil leak from the rear main seal with the Castrol.? After several recommendations I changed to the Valvoline and it diminshed the oil leak and improved oil pressure by 3 to 5 pounds.? I have converted to VR1 on each on my English cars. Cheers,? Pete Sturtevant -----Original Message----- From: Ed Orr To: Steve B. Gerow ; Healeys Newsgroup Sent: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 8:11 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] zddp followup Steve do you know if Valvoline Racing oil is available in 20-50 grade . Ed Orr ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve B. Gerow" To: "Healeys Newsgroup" Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 5:17 PM Subject: [Healeys] zddp followup > At conclave we had a tech session by the owner of APT in Riverside, CA, > who > are an engine builder and cam grinder for BMC A & B-series engines and > Triumphs. > > He stated the feeling at present in his industry seems to be that we all > need to be adding a ZDDP additive at every oil change. > > He said (hope I'm not mischaracterizing this) Valvoline Racing is the only > mainstream oil currently available that contains a usable amount of ZDDP. > > Another person reported there is info on Valvoline's website detailing the > amount of ZDDP in the racing oil. > > -- > Steve Gerow > Pasadena CA > 59 BN6 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as eorr at cogeco.ca > > http://www.team.net/archive From thewalkers at qwest.net Thu Jul 3 21:11:54 2008 From: thewalkers at qwest.net (the walkers) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:11:54 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Cribbage - Off topic Message-ID: <486D94FA.4030908@qwest.net> All - I am a cribbage fiend (not good at it, but I like it). I play on a web-based site, http://www.kingscribbageonline.com/ Features regular cribbage and kings cribbage, a crib/scrabble combo. Small group, really nice folks. The demographic of healey list folks matches up to cribbage players pretty well. That is why I suggest this. Hope you all do not want to flame me up for suggesting it, but if you do, oh well... I play under the name rwalker28, look for me if you sign up. It is free, of course... I have no financial interest, blah, blah. Contact me off the list if you are interested. bob walker phx, az From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Jul 3 21:14:34 2008 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:14:34 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Turning Brake Drums Message-ID: <486D959A.6000906@comcast.net> Listers, Went to have my BJ8's drums turned by my favorite parts house and they refused to turn them because they couldn't find a spec for minimum thickness. The drums have plenty of "meat" left, but without an official spec--there's no markings on the drums--they said they could lose their business license if they turned them. I don't doubt the shop; just wondering if anyone else has encountered this issue and, if so, what was done. New drums are over $100 ea., and mine are balanced so I'd like to keep them. TIA, bs -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From edriver at sasktel.net Thu Jul 3 22:15:58 2008 From: edriver at sasktel.net (E.A. Driver) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:15:58 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] 4th Message-ID: <486DA3FE.5050701@sasktel.net> To our Cousins south of the 49th - Happy Independence Day Kind regards Ed Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada Historian, AHCUSA Healeys and a Morgan From glemon at neb.rr.com Thu Jul 3 22:57:53 2008 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 23:57:53 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Turning Brake Drums References: <486D959A.6000906@comcast.net> Message-ID: <004f01c8dd92$84d53c70$6601a8c0@toshibauser> I have not had that exact issue but have had similar issues with shops that won't work on things for liability or insurance reasons, or they are clueless because they can't find a part or spec in their computer. My guess is this is a newer or at least shiny and newer looking place, quite possibly part of a chain. Find a shop in a lower rent district that looks a little worn around the edges, not piles of unfinished work and junk around, but more of a businesslike atmosphere. The shop should be staffed by an older guy or guys over 50. He will look at your drum, he will have an idea of what is acceptable thickness on this type and size of drum and will turn it for you without needing to look at a book. Or he may even have a book that has the spec in it. He has been in business for a long time because he knows his work and is an honest craftsmen. He will charge you a reasonable price for the job, he may or may not take credit cards, so bring cash or a check when you pick it up. Unfortunately these types of shops are getting more and more rare, but they are out there. I may be off base about where you went when they wouldn't turn the drum and where you need to go to get it done, but if I am I will eat my hat. Greg Lemon From rotaryman at cox.net Thu Jul 3 23:59:32 2008 From: rotaryman at cox.net (patrick harris) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 22:59:32 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] conclave impressions Message-ID: <002401c8dd9b$2118c540$263adc48@FRYS> Being a local san diegan it was great to enjoy the healeys first hand without the cost and drive for all of it as others had to do. I have owned a factory m for many years and until this event was never able to actually drive my car as it has been in a holding pattern of partially finished for many years. Reid Trummel was kind enough to allow me to drive his 100 with factory leopard seats for the rally and it was a blast. He put up with my forgetting to go to second before first a couple of times before he reminded me what a perfect transmission it was and would I please get it soon before he removed me from the drivers seat. I helped scribe at the concours on both a gold 100m and a bronze and learned alot. Roger and Reid could spend alot of time talking tools which I find less then interesting but they have so much to offer with what the various items around the car should and did look like. I am glad I had the experience and thank the san diego club for the hard work and well organized event and roger reid and curt for the concours experience. pat harris also Healey people are the best. From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Fri Jul 4 05:42:55 2008 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 13:42:55 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] AH 100 first driving impressions - Boy this is fun!... In-Reply-To: <000601c8dd33$3941e6f0$0200a8c0@tm4> References: <000601c8dd33$3941e6f0$0200a8c0@tm4> Message-ID: <63B1A4D5F62C7B458A5B757A5EA81750046B316B@S4DE8PSAANH.t-systems.com> Tadek, Seems your left front suspension is out of tollerances. You should have negative camber. The right looks better, but also not as it should be. Did the car had an accident front left? I had similar on mine, but opposite side. Josef Eckert Koenigswinter/Germany -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces+josef.eckert=t-systems.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+josef.eckert=t-systems.com at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Tadeusz Malkiewicz Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2008 19:36 An: healeys at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Healeys] AH 100 first driving impressions - Boy this is fun!... As always, many thanks for help!.. The list is always most helpful.. I have checked my oil pressure, and it seems I do not go below 35 lb at idle (which is about 1000 rpm). The cursing oil pressure is at about 50 lb. This should be alright? The water temperature does not go above 190F standing in traffic on a hot (95F) day.. My transmission is too tight - I think I might check If I should install some extra shim on the column end, as unscrewing the adjuster nut does not help much.. I have checked my suspension today and I have: Caster: L: 0.83 deg R: 1.30 deg Book: 1.45 deg Camber: L: +0.50 deg R: -0.33 deg Book: 1.00 deg The toe was set to almost 0. Are these values ok?? Many thanks for help, Tadek From comkanuk at cgocable.ca Fri Jul 4 06:44:54 2008 From: comkanuk at cgocable.ca (gilbert gauthier) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 08:44:54 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Happy 4th of July USA !!! Message-ID: <064AAEFE-5D82-4689-ACAC-B7DFFCA14D82@cgocable.ca> You , therefore, the Representatives of the United States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the Protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor Signed by Order and in Behalf of the Congress,JOHN HANCOCK, President.Attest.CHARLES THOMSON, Secretary. Gilbert Qc. AHBT7 61 From ahbn6 at optonline.net Fri Jul 4 08:36:21 2008 From: ahbn6 at optonline.net (John Sims) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 10:36:21 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fuse Block Message-ID: <008001c8dde3$54053040$fc0f90c0$@net> I want to replace my original fuse block (50amp for horn circuit and 35 amp for everything else) with a bock that accepts the new ATO fuses. Any ideas where I can find one with dimensions to fit where the old one is located on a BN6? I see some on line that have slots for 6 fuses but they all appear to be too big to fit. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ www.healey6.com From steveg at abrazosdata.com Fri Jul 4 09:30:20 2008 From: steveg at abrazosdata.com (Steve B. Gerow) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 08:30:20 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Friday Funny Message-ID: Columbian army hostage rescuers dupe FARC guerrillas by wearing ... Che t-shirts! http://hotair.com/archives/2008/07/03/awesome-colombian-army-duped-farc-by-w earing-che-t-shirts/ Sometimes life is better than parody. -- Steve Gerow Pasadena CA 59 BN6 From Hartangus at aol.com Fri Jul 4 10:04:39 2008 From: Hartangus at aol.com (Hartangus at aol.com) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 12:04:39 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Canada day Message-ID: Alan, I'm sure you could. Regards Barrie from England From tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl Fri Jul 4 11:02:13 2008 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 19:02:13 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] AH 100 first driving impressions - Boy this is fun!... In-Reply-To: <63B1A4D5F62C7B458A5B757A5EA81750046B316B@S4DE8PSAANH.t-systems.com> Message-ID: <002c01c8ddf7$b4b91c30$0200a8c0@tm4> Well, Please correct me if I am wrong, but the camber really signifies the relation of the upper and lower truunion while looking from the front of the car. This really means there is a triangle between the upper and lower trueunion |\0 <--upper truunion | \ | \ | \ | \ |_____\O <-- lower truunion The angle at the top of that triangle should be 1deg. The distance between the top and lower truunion is about 22cm. This means that the lower edge of the triangle should be almost 4mm. (if I remember my trigonometry correctly) My triangle is the other way, moved 2mm to the outside. This means my left side is 6mm off. The question is - was this due to accident or was it the way the cars were produced??.. How precisely were the cars manufactured as far as the frame is concerned??... What are the tolerances for these setups? Thanks, Tadek -----Original Message----- From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com [mailto:Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com] Sent: 4 lipca 2008 13:43 To: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: AW: [Healeys] AH 100 first driving impressions - Boy this is fun!... Tadek, Seems your left front suspension is out of tollerances. You should have negative camber. The right looks better, but also not as it should be. Did the car had an accident front left? I had similar on mine, but opposite side. Josef Eckert Koenigswinter/Germany -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Auftrag von Tadeusz Malkiewicz Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2008 19:36 An: healeys at autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Healeys] AH 100 first driving impressions - Boy this is fun!... I have checked my suspension today and I have: Caster: L: 0.83 deg R: 1.30 deg Book: 1.45 deg Camber: L: +0.50 deg R: -0.33 deg Book: -1.00 deg The toe was set to almost 0. From Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com Fri Jul 4 11:30:24 2008 From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com (Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 19:30:24 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] AH 100 first driving impressions - Boy this is fun!... In-Reply-To: <002c01c8ddf7$b4b91c30$0200a8c0@tm4> References: <63B1A4D5F62C7B458A5B757A5EA81750046B316B@S4DE8PSAANH.t-systems.com> <002c01c8ddf7$b4b91c30$0200a8c0@tm4> Message-ID: <63B1A4D5F62C7B458A5B757A5EA81750046B325A@S4DE8PSAANH.t-systems.com> Tadek, Your thoughts are the same as mine were, when I realized the misalignment first. Then I started a thorough investigation and did lots of frame measurements and even realized that the right hand front wheel was 1.5cm further to the back than the left hand. It was only visible when you compared the wheel arches and contours of the wheels in the arch. During this checks I saw very minor signs of an accident, which was repaired I expect some 10 years before I bought the car in 1986. At the end it turned out that the lower wishbone mounts were replaced and welded back to the wrong places and with slightly wrong angle. So it was some work to get the suspension right again. Now to the precision of the factory work. I think the alignment was quite good, compared to the body work. My right hand door on my BN1 is 1cm longer than the left hand door! Both doors are the original doors. I also have a accident free 1962 BT7, with most of its original panels on the car. The alignment of the front suspension of this Healey is perfect. So I assume the quality some 6 years ago was not that bad, as you realize it on your car. Put your car on a pit or lifter to check and measure all distances and check for accident damage and you may find an answer to your questions. Josef Eckert Koenigswinter/Germany -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Tadeusz Malkiewicz [mailto:tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl] Gesendet: Freitag, 4. Juli 2008 19:02 An: Eckert, Josef; healeys at autox.team.net Betreff: RE: [Healeys] AH 100 first driving impressions - Boy this is fun!... Well, Please correct me if I am wrong, but the camber really signifies the relation of the upper and lower truunion while looking from the front of the car. This really means there is a triangle between the upper and lower trueunion |\0 <--upper truunion | \ | \ | \ | \ |_____\O <-- lower truunion The angle at the top of that triangle should be 1deg. The distance between the top and lower truunion is about 22cm. This means that the lower edge of the triangle should be almost 4mm. (if I remember my trigonometry correctly) My triangle is the other way, moved 2mm to the outside. This means my left side is 6mm off. The question is - was this due to accident or was it the way the cars were produced??.. How precisely were the cars manufactured as far as the frame is concerned??... What are the tolerances for these setups? Thanks, Tadek From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 4 13:52:47 2008 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 15:52:47 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fuse Block References: <008001c8dde3$54053040$fc0f90c0$@net> Message-ID: <001e01c8de0f$895eb460$f339e046@markl946cfrd7q> Not sure what ATO is but an MGB fuse block will give you 2 more fuse locations and you can add a couple of terminal branch fittings to increase the connection possibilities It does fit in the same fuse block location . The attachment holes don't match up exactly but that is expected. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Sims" To: "Healey List" Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 10:36 AM Subject: [Healeys] Fuse Block >I want to replace my original fuse block (50amp for horn circuit and 35 amp > for everything else) with a bock that accepts the new ATO fuses. Any ideas > where I can find one with dimensions to fit where the old one is located > on > a BN6? > > > > I see some on line that have slots for 6 fuses but they all appear to be > too > big to fit. > > > > John Sims, BN6 > > Aberdeen, NJ > > > > www.healey6.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as lapierrem at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From dwflagg at juno.com Fri Jul 4 14:14:41 2008 From: dwflagg at juno.com (Douglas W Flagg) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 16:14:41 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Interesting Book Message-ID: <20080704.161441.1128.2.dwflagg@juno.com> While browsing in Barnes & Noble today I came across a book called "The 50 Cars to Drive", with contributions from Sir Sterling Moss, Carroll Shelby, and Jay Leno. One of the cars was a 1952 Nash-Healey. What was interesting, aside from the great cars, was that all of these cars, including the Nash-Healey, were lauded for the pleasure of driving just as they were!! Not with a Smitty 5-speed tranny, fuel injection, air conditioning, etc., but admired and respected for what they were. If I remember, the next time I'm there I will jot down the passage on the Nash-Healey. You'all have a very nice 4th. You to Ed. Doug ____________________________________________________________ Smart Girls Secret Weapon Read Unbiased Beauty Product Reviews, Get Helpful Tips, Tricks and Sam http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/JKFkuJi7U3yAlI82RdZcMetRdsCW4o72chKA6xWGXdSCvhuq1gOeWI/ From rthrift at cox.net Fri Jul 4 15:23:22 2008 From: rthrift at cox.net (RThrift) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 14:23:22 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Interesting Book In-Reply-To: <20080704.161441.1128.2.dwflagg@juno.com> Message-ID: <20080704172322.592PM.495130.imail@fed1rmwml41> I don't know if it's been mentioned, but a beautiful '53? Pininfarina Nash-Healey Le Mans coupe just won Best of Show at Conclave in San Diego. It got about 3 times the votes of the runner up. However I still think the '53 Healey Abbott drophead coupe (only 77 made) was the coolest car there ("For contextual comparison, the Nash-Healey is framed in U.S. auto history with the 1953 Kaiser Darrin, 1953 Chevrolet Corvette and 1955 Ford Thunderbird." "Clark Kent, played by George Reeves, drove a 1953 Nash-Healey roadster in four episodes of the American 1950s television series Adventures of Superman. Dick Powell owned the car" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nash-Healey ) Richard Thrift ---- Douglas W Flagg wrote: While browsing in Barnes & Noble today I came across a book called "The 50 Cars to Drive", with contributions from Sir Sterling Moss, Carroll Shelby, and Jay Leno. One of the cars was a 1952 Nash-Healey. What was interesting, aside from the great cars, was that all of these cars, including the Nash-Healey, were lauded for the pleasure of driving just as they were!! Not with a Smitty 5-speed tranny, fuel injection, air conditioning, etc., but admired and respected for what they were. If I remember, the next time I'm there I will jot down the passage on the Nash-Healey. You'all have a very nice 4th. You to Ed. Doug ____________________________________________________________ Smart Girls Secret Weapon Read Unbiased Beauty Product Reviews, Get Helpful Tips, Tricks and Sam http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/JKFkuJi7U3yAlI82RdZcMetRdsCW4o72chKA6xWGXdSCvhuq1gOeWI/ Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as rthrift at cox.net http://www.team.net/archive From HealeyHundred at comcast.net Fri Jul 4 15:32:16 2008 From: HealeyHundred at comcast.net (Richard Gordon) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 15:32:16 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Tire Safety Message-ID: <427BC80C-6363-4325-A73A-06EA74C48ADD@comcast.net> Hi Gang, Since we drive our cars fairly low mileage, it is worth noting that we should check the age of the tires (tyres) on our cars and drive safely. http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4826897 Richard Gordon Rocky Mountain Austin-Healey Club 1830 South Newport Street Denver, Colorado 80224 Home 303-756-7427 Cell 303-913-1171 HealeyHundred at comcast.net From dwflagg at juno.com Fri Jul 4 15:33:26 2008 From: dwflagg at juno.com (Douglas W Flagg) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 17:33:26 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Clamp Set Message-ID: <20080704.173326.4060.1.dwflagg@juno.com> I have an NOS hood (top) clamp set for BN4 RHD from C.E.28103, LHD from C.E.28014, BT7. If you have an interest please contact me off the list. Doug ____________________________________________________________ Sweepstakes!!! Enter for your chance to WIN a summer spa getaway! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/JKFkuJi7UjkUoMW6IfLlJ6m5Egtjebt01ExJw5ra05BYdWMN8CZbXu/ From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Fri Jul 4 21:45:05 2008 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (James Shope) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 20:45:05 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] DMH Message-ID: <006b01c8de51$835879b0$5201a8c0@Jim> our local paper always has a car section on friday. this morning there was nice story about DMH and the birth of the healey. was glad to see it and hope it made it to your paper also. healeymanjim From f.ronald.rader at gmail.com Fri Jul 4 22:47:41 2008 From: f.ronald.rader at gmail.com (F. Ronald Rader) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 21:47:41 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Nash Healey Message-ID: <5caeedb50807042147i69d542b0nb4003e62af6397dc@mail.gmail.com> a friend of mine here in LA has the Dick Powell / Superman car. ron 1954 Nash Healey FHC 1965 BJ8 On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 2:23 PM, RThrift wrote: > I don't know if it's been mentioned, but a beautiful '53? Pininfarina > Nash-Healey Le Mans coupe just won Best of Show at Conclave in San Diego. > It got about 3 times the votes of the runner up. > > However I still think the '53 Healey Abbott drophead coupe (only 77 made) > was the coolest car there > > ("For contextual comparison, the Nash-Healey is framed in U.S. auto history > with the 1953 Kaiser Darrin, 1953 Chevrolet Corvette and 1955 Ford > Thunderbird." > "Clark Kent, played by George Reeves, drove a 1953 Nash-Healey roadster in > four episodes of the American 1950s television series Adventures of > Superman. Dick Powell owned the car" From hypercubic at yahoo.co.uk Sat Jul 5 01:34:21 2008 From: hypercubic at yahoo.co.uk (mike brooks) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 00:34:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Late BN2 door-to-scuttle seal Message-ID: <696314.71897.qm@web34207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Well, after several weeks I have the seals but no bracket sets. I ordered from SC Parts in the UK, but due to some hiccup in theirB stock controlB system, the brackets have not showed up, and now they are showing zero stock. If anyone has a bracket set in stock, or an individual has a spare set they are willing to sell, could you contact me off list? It would be for UK delivery. Actually I only need the flat strip shaped brackets - the other ones (which are shaped like a rectangular U and fit next to the top door hinge) are still original on the car and are in good condition. Many thanks Mike Brooks ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike brooks" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 1:02 AM Subject: [Healeys] Late BN2 door-to-scuttle seal > I've just ordered the bits to fit door-to-scuttle seals on my BN2 hundred. > These are the later design with the brackets. At the moment, I just have > home > made bits of rubber glued in (PO). Does anyone have photos and/or tips on > fitting these seals? I searched the archives but could not find anything. > Thanks in advance > Mike Brooks > '56 BN2 > Scotland From healey.nut at gmail.com Sat Jul 5 06:31:23 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 20:31:23 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Ok this is a Jag 3.8 XKE/Saloon question Message-ID: Hi All - Some of you may recall that I bought a Mk IX Right Hooker w/ automatic about 3 months ago. (ref http://www.saloondata.com/cars/detail/?car=772606BW if interested). This car has the same motor as the Series 1 E-type and I know there are lots of E-type owners on the list. Anyway, I've had very good experience with putting the Pertronix Distributor on my '52 Austin A90 Atlantic, and I was wondering if any of you have put one on your E-type/Mk IX / or any 3.8 saloon?? http://www.pertronix.com/prod/ig/flame/dist/british.aspx http://www.shopatron.com/product/part_number=D177600/591.0.15572.17600.0.0.0 I think it should be a straight plug in (the Jags have the offset drive dog, right?) so anyone with experience on this would be great. Thought you'd like to know I received the car here in Hong Kong and inspected and she is an absolute stunner - 67K original miles & everything, I mean EVERYTHING, is original from the factory including the plug wires from 1959! Insane! Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 From ktaplin at gwi.net Sat Jul 5 13:57:24 2008 From: ktaplin at gwi.net (Ken Taplin) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 15:57:24 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] (no subject) Message-ID: <003a01c8ded9$589701a0$8791c3d8@YOUR85A8F7B8EC> The EOS that GM now sells is in a different bottle than previously and is no loger called an oil suppliment but an assembly lubricant. Can it still be used as an additive to boost zinc levels? From shop at justbrits.com Sat Jul 5 15:49:21 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 15:49:21 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] (no subject) References: <003a01c8ded9$589701a0$8791c3d8@YOUR85A8F7B8EC> Message-ID: <005b01c8dee8$fbf203e0$6501a8c0@shop> <> I would have to say yes Ken, as the bottleS I have which are close to a year old say "E.O.S. Assembly Lubricant". As was explained to me by my friendly Chevy Parts Dept. Manager that when it "dried up" it was due to ONE ingrediant that messsed up production. He said that GM HAD secured a NEW vendor and the product would be forthcoming "possibly re-named" by he was pretty sure it would NOT be "re-named". That's all I know. But I WILL be using in my carsin the future (is in crankcase right now and I just drove the '70 Camino to Lake of The Ozarks for the Sprite 50th Event. 900 miles R/T with about 1100 on her since last change (total 2000) using Castrol 20W50 + EOS. Oil still looks NEW!! Ed '63 BJ-7 (Hortence THE Healey wearing STD IL plates AH BJ 7 ) '70 Camino (Amber wearing STD IL plates 7 AH BJ ) From shop at justbrits.com Sat Jul 5 15:54:15 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 15:54:15 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Ok this is a Jag 3.8 XKE/Saloon question References: Message-ID: <006301c8dee9$ab6cce40$6501a8c0@shop> Alan: While no direct Jag experience, I have sold a bunch of them. The only cavet that has seem to come up is that you DO (as per thir instruction) HAVE to re-set timing. And I would if I was using. Ed '63 BJ-7 (Hortence THE Healey wearing STD IL plates AH BJ 7 ) '70 Camino (Amber wearing STD IL plates 7 AH BJ ) From dcongleton at embarqmail.com Sat Jul 5 15:17:34 2008 From: dcongleton at embarqmail.com (Dallas Congleton) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 17:17:34 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] (no subject) References: <003a01c8ded9$589701a0$8791c3d8@YOUR85A8F7B8EC> <005b01c8dee8$fbf203e0$6501a8c0@shop> Message-ID: <8A2A2749495A443C915735D46C486144@your4dacd0ea75> "As was explained to me by my friendly Chevy Parts Dept. Manager that when it "dried up" it was due to ONE ingredient that messed up production" Ed that "one ingredient" wouldn't by chance be ZDDP would it ;^) Dallas . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed's Shop" To: Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] (no subject) > < is no loger called an oil suppliment but an assembly lubricant. Can it > still be used as an additive to boost zinc levels?>> > > I would have to say yes Ken, as the bottleS I have which are close to a > year old say "E.O.S. Assembly Lubricant". > > As was explained to me by my friendly Chevy Parts Dept. Manager that when > it "dried up" it was due to ONE ingrediant that messsed up production. He > said that GM HAD secured a NEW vendor and the product would be forthcoming > "possibly re-named" by he was pretty sure it would NOT be "re-named". > > That's all I know. But I WILL be using in my carsin the future (is in > crankcase right now and I just drove the '70 Camino to Lake of The Ozarks > for the Sprite 50th Event. 900 miles R/T with about 1100 on her since > last change (total 2000) using Castrol 20W50 + EOS. Oil still looks > NEW!! > > Ed > '63 BJ-7 (Hortence THE Healey wearing STD IL plates AH BJ 7 ) > '70 Camino (Amber wearing STD IL plates 7 AH BJ ) From shop at justbrits.com Sat Jul 5 16:43:03 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 16:43:03 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] (no subject) References: <003a01c8ded9$589701a0$8791c3d8@YOUR85A8F7B8EC> <005b01c8dee8$fbf203e0$6501a8c0@shop> <8A2A2749495A443C915735D46C486144@your4dacd0ea75> Message-ID: <008301c8def0$7cc9dae0$6501a8c0@shop> <> LMAO, Dallas!!!! NO ! From tomfelts at windstream.net Sat Jul 5 15:59:59 2008 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (tomfelts at windstream.net) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 17:59:59 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Ok this is a Jag 3.8 XKE/Saloon question Message-ID: <20080705215959.BURL22346.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> Have had one in my 66 E-Type for about 7 years and wouldn't leave home w/o it. no problems whatsoever and SMOOTH running. Also have one in my BJ8---also no problems. tom > > From: "Alan Seigrist" > Date: 2008/07/05 Sat AM 08:31:23 EDT > To: Healey > Subject: [Healeys] Ok this is a Jag 3.8 XKE/Saloon question > > Hi All - > > Some of you may recall that I bought a Mk IX > Right Hooker w/ automatic about 3 months ago. > (ref http://www.saloondata.com/cars/detail/?car=772606BW if > interested). This car has the same motor as the Series 1 E-type and I > know there are lots of E-type owners on the list. > > Anyway, I've had very good experience with putting the Pertronix Distributor > on my '52 Austin A90 Atlantic, and I was wondering if any of > you have put one on your E-type/Mk IX / or any 3.8 saloon?? > > http://www.pertronix.com/prod/ig/flame/dist/british.aspx > http://www.shopatron.com/product/part_number=D177600/591.0.15572.17600.0.0.0 > > I think it should be a straight plug in (the Jags have the > offset drive dog, right?) so anyone with experience on this > would be great. > > Thought you'd like to know I received the car here in Hong > Kong and inspected and she is an absolute stunner - 67K > original miles & everything, I mean EVERYTHING, is original > from the factory including the plug wires from 1959! Insane! > > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '64 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From tomfelts at windstream.net Sat Jul 5 16:08:01 2008 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (tomfelts at windstream.net) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 18:08:01 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] zddp followup Message-ID: <20080705220801.JHIG29060.ispmxmta06-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> FWIW, I have been using it in my Healey and E-Type for a long time. Seems to work well and comes highly recommended by my mechanic. tom > > From: Al Malin > Date: 2008/07/03 Thu PM 08:40:55 EDT > To: Healeys Newsgroup > Subject: Re: [Healeys] zddp followup > > Valvoline "VR1 Racing Oil" comes in 20W-50. > > They also have a "Conventional Racing Oil" and "Synthetic Racing oil" > that is labeled "Not Street Legal". Their web site says it "Contains > increased amounts of zinc for extra engine protection". In a call to > Valvoline the guy said this oil should be changed every 500 miles. > > Al Malin > Tricarb > > > On Jul 3, 2008, at 8:11 PM, Ed Orr wrote: > > > Steve do you know if Valvoline Racing oil is available in 20-50 > > grade . > > > > Ed Orr > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From tomfelts at windstream.net Sat Jul 5 16:12:20 2008 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (tomfelts at windstream.net) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 18:12:20 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] loud clatter & conclave followup Message-ID: <20080705221220.CGTQ22346.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> 14.1 mpg?? on the road? I just drove mine on an 800 mile jaunt and avg right at 21 mph--premium fuel--also driving in 96 degree temp. Tom > > From: "Steve B. Gerow" > Date: 2008/07/03 Thu PM 05:11:15 EDT > To: Healeys Newsgroup > Subject: [Healeys] loud clatter & conclave followup > > Just got back from Conclave in San Diego--short distance but high heat > content. > > Left San Diego for Altadena (N of Pasadena, 142 miles one way via the inland > route). > > Had added STP Red to my Shell 20-50 oil prior to trip. Added Marvel Mystery > Oil at all fillups to prevent any [what I think is] valve train clatter. > > No clatter heard at any time. > > Today approx 125 of the 142 miles was at 95+ degrees ambient. Car ran at > 190+ to 205 the whole time. 3000 rpms used as max cruise. > 14.1 mpg on premium--no fuel problems or hesitation of any kind. Stopped for > lunch at Tudy's Tacos in Corona where it was around 90; no flooding on > restart 20 min later with engine around 212. > > Cooling system is clean, 3 yr old core, 6 blade Nock fan with beefed shroud, > 100% purified water with Water Wetter & water pump lube. Stock 7lb cap. > > 1/4 quart of oil used in trip which was around 350 miles total. > > FWIW > -- > Steve Gerow > Pasadena CA > 59 BN6 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From healey.nut at gmail.com Sat Jul 5 16:56:39 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 06:56:39 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] loud clatter & conclave followup In-Reply-To: <20080705221220.CGTQ22346.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> References: <20080705221220.CGTQ22346.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> Message-ID: Steve - Tom's right, your BN6 should be doing better than 20 mpg on the highway. When I still had the MK I motor that the PO had put in my BJ8 many years ago (apparently an unscrupulous mechanic had swapped motors to steal the PO's MK III motor), I would average 22 mpg on the highway, now with my stock BJ8 motor I still get about 18 mpg on the highway. With the way the BN6 is set up, I would think it should even do better than 20 mpg. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 6:12 AM, wrote: > 14.1 mpg?? on the road? I just drove mine on an 800 mile jaunt and avg right at 21 mph--premium fuel--also driving in 96 degree temp. > > Tom >> >> From: "Steve B. Gerow" >> Date: 2008/07/03 Thu PM 05:11:15 EDT >> To: Healeys Newsgroup >> Subject: [Healeys] loud clatter & conclave followup >> >> Just got back from Conclave in San Diego--short distance but high heat >> content. >> >> Left San Diego for Altadena (N of Pasadena, 142 miles one way via the inland >> route). >> >> Had added STP Red to my Shell 20-50 oil prior to trip. Added Marvel Mystery >> Oil at all fillups to prevent any [what I think is] valve train clatter. >> >> No clatter heard at any time. >> >> Today approx 125 of the 142 miles was at 95+ degrees ambient. Car ran at >> 190+ to 205 the whole time. 3000 rpms used as max cruise. >> 14.1 mpg on premium--no fuel problems or hesitation of any kind. Stopped for >> lunch at Tudy's Tacos in Corona where it was around 90; no flooding on >> restart 20 min later with engine around 212. >> >> Cooling system is clean, 3 yr old core, 6 blade Nock fan with beefed shroud, >> 100% purified water with Water Wetter & water pump lube. Stock 7lb cap. >> >> 1/4 quart of oil used in trip which was around 350 miles total. >> >> FWIW >> -- >> Steve Gerow >> Pasadena CA >> 59 BN6 >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net >> >> http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From 57healey at gmail.com Sat Jul 5 17:22:39 2008 From: 57healey at gmail.com (Patton Dickson) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 18:22:39 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Carpet install question, almost half way done. Message-ID: <743b1e2f0807051622r373fb524m2b29dd24427bd747@mail.gmail.com> My wife is helping me instal the carpet this weekend, and we have made pretty good progress. All of the glued in pieces are glued, and the stopping point for the night was installing the gearbox forward bulkhead panel. With all of the carpet installed, I am having a devil of the time finding the holes for the 3 trim screws /cup washers down each side. I am afraid I am going to hack the carpet up if I keep poking. Any suggestions or shortcuts on how to find them? Thanks Patton -- Patton Dickson - http://Austin-Healeys.com - Plano, TX 1957 Austin-Healey 100-Six "Built to run 'til the road wears out." From dwflagg at juno.com Sat Jul 5 17:24:49 2008 From: dwflagg at juno.com (Douglas W Flagg) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 19:24:49 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Lucas Part Message-ID: <20080705.192449.1900.8.dwflagg@juno.com> Can anyone tell me the application for Lucas part number 572619 which is a license plate lamp base assembly? TIA. Doug ____________________________________________________________ Sweepstakes!!! Enter for your chance to WIN a summer spa getaway! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/JKFkuJi7UjkTIIAjw3wLEYlnzOaUD1rvU7rkNqTPu9f4o5s1fqIwPi/ From sbyers at ec.rr.com Sat Jul 5 17:35:03 2008 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 19:35:03 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] zddp followup Message-ID: <9210977.668431215300903586.JavaMail.root@cdptpa-web08-z02> In case some of you missed the information in all of the verbiage of my "On the Road to Conclave" reports, we poured in a product called ZDDPlus with the oil change before leaving home (0.8 oz/quart of oil). After 3,391 miles neither of our engines or camshafts or tappets have fallen out on the ground, and both engines are still running sweetly. My oil on the stick still looks like new. I think George has a ring seating problem so he can't say that, but still.... I don't know if ZDDPlus is snake oil, or if GM EOS is the best supplement to use; but GM made it too difficult to get their product so the heck with them as far as I'm concerned. Someone pointed out that I called the stuff "ZDDP Plus" when it is actually "ZDDPlus". You can get more info at their interesting website: http://www.zddplus.com. When I get home, I'll pull a tappet or two and see how they look. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC (currently in Bryce Canyon, Utah) From sbyers at ec.rr.com Sat Jul 5 17:54:20 2008 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 19:54:20 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Carpet install question, almost half way done. Message-ID: <9918973.669141215302060218.JavaMail.root@cdptpa-web08-z02> Patton, I use an ice pick as an awl for such purposes. You can poke around on and through the carpet quite a bit and no damage will be visible. Of course, if you have access to the back side of the holes, so much the better. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA ---- Patton Dickson <57healey at gmail.com> wrote: > My wife is helping me instal the carpet this weekend, and we have made > pretty good progress. All of the glued in pieces are glued, and the > stopping point for the night was installing the gearbox forward > bulkhead panel. With all of the carpet installed, I am having a devil > of the time finding the holes for the 3 trim screws /cup washers down > each side. I am afraid I am going to hack the carpet up if I keep > poking. Any suggestions or shortcuts on how to find them? > > Thanks > Patton From shop at justbrits.com Sat Jul 5 19:39:47 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 19:39:47 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] zddp followup References: <9210977.668431215300903586.JavaMail.root@cdptpa-web08-z02> Message-ID: <021901c8df09$2d37f200$6501a8c0@shop> <> "Should" be easy now, Steve (except in your 'area')!! Lucas Oil ALSO has a fine product that is labeled as "additive". Ed From steveg at abrazosdata.com Sat Jul 5 19:16:12 2008 From: steveg at abrazosdata.com (Steve B. Gerow) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 18:16:12 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Healey California trip mileage - others sought In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Alan, I actually have a hopped-up 29D motor which runs quite strong--has a stock cam and HD6 carbs with headers and a DMD 2-carb manifold and 1.6 rockers. Now I'm interested in figuring out why my mileage is bad. I wonder if our local California fuel has anything to do with it. Would like to hear trip mileages from other folks in Calif. -- Steve Gerow Pasadena CA 59 BN6 > From: "Alan Seigrist" > > Steve - > > Tom's right, your BN6 should be doing better than 20 mpg on the highway. From sbyers at ec.rr.com Sat Jul 5 19:43:42 2008 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 21:43:42 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] On the Road Home from Conclave (Day 3) Message-ID: <24791065.650791215308622958.JavaMail.root@cdptpa-web03-z02> Hello, Healeyphiles - As faithful readers of the Adventures of the Haywood/Byers Convoy to Conclave will recall, I had a gearbox problem just as we entered San Diego. David Nock had a look at it and suspected a broken or missing circlip on the mainshaft. Although the gearbox PROBABLY could have got me back to North Carolina O.K., I didn't want to worry about it. The local Healey club members put me onto Randy Zoller (Heritage Motor Sports) in El Cajon, and let me tell you: if you ever have a Healey problem in the San Diego area, he's the man to see. In a little over 24 hours, he had pulled my gearbox/overdrive, disassembled it, diagnosed the problem (yep, the circlip was missing and a bronze thrust washer had also broken up in the overdrive), cleaned it, repaired it, reassembled and reinstalled the whole shebang. The gearbox works better now than when I left home. We departed Conclave on Thursday about 12:00 noon and headed toward Needles, CA. We had spent the last night before arriving in San Diego in Gila Bend, AZ -- the hottest place in the USA on that day. Needles was the hottest on the day we arrived. The road through the mountains and across that barren desert was the HOTTEST I've ever driven on, and it seemed to go on forever. >From Needles to Tuba City, AZ the second day was a pretty good drive, and today's was from Tuba City to Bryce Canyon, Utah. Hey, Gary Brierton: I bet you didn't know you probably participated in an historic event in Tuba City this morning. It was likely the first time in history that three Austin-Healeys were in town at the same time. I saw you and the Silver Bullet pass as we were stopped for gas, but I don't think you saw us. Utah has some really spectacular scenery and rock formations. Tomorrow we tour Bryce Canyon. Happy Healeying! Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC From healey.nut at gmail.com Sat Jul 5 20:07:08 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 10:07:08 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Healey California trip mileage - others sought In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Steve - I didn't realize you had 1.6 rockers on your car - that could have been enough to make your car run with poorer mileage. Usually increasing cam duration and increasing valve lift will reduce your mileage. You say you have a stock cam - is it a stock BN6 cam or a stock BJ8 cam? if BN6 cam you should be getting better mileage. The headers and manifolds shouldn't make much difference so that wouldn't be it. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 9:16 AM, Steve B. Gerow wrote: > Alan, > I actually have a hopped-up 29D motor which runs quite strong--has a stock > cam and HD6 carbs with headers and a DMD 2-carb manifold and 1.6 rockers. > > Now I'm interested in figuring out why my mileage is bad. I wonder if our > local California fuel has anything to do with it. > > Would like to hear trip mileages from other folks in Calif. > -- > Steve Gerow > Pasadena CA > 59 BN6 > > >> From: "Alan Seigrist" >> >> Steve - >> >> Tom's right, your BN6 should be doing better than 20 mpg on the highway. From insptwo at msn.com Sat Jul 5 20:10:14 2008 From: insptwo at msn.com (insptwo at msn.com) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 22:10:14 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Healey California trip mileage - others sought In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Don't forget that with the new ethanol in the gas, your mileage is going to drop! How much so will depend on your particular engine and the amount of heat that you are in. Bill BJ7 > Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 18:16:12 -0700> From: steveg at abrazosdata.com> To: healey.nut at gmail.com> CC: healeys at autox.team.net> Subject: [Healeys] Healey California trip mileage - others sought> > Alan,> I actually have a hopped-up 29D motor which runs quite strong--has a stock> cam and HD6 carbs with headers and a DMD 2-carb manifold and 1.6 rockers.> > Now I'm interested in figuring out why my mileage is bad. I wonder if our> local California fuel has anything to do with it.> > Would like to hear trip mileages from other folks in Calif.> -- > Steve Gerow> Pasadena CA> 59 BN6> > > > From: "Alan Seigrist" > > > > Steve -> > > > Tom's right, your BN6 should be doing better than 20 mpg on the highway.> _______________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > Healeys at autox.team.net> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys> > You are subscribed as insptwo at msn.com> > http://www.team.net/archive From craigsuerice at iquest.net Sat Jul 5 22:56:23 2008 From: craigsuerice at iquest.net (Craig and Sue Rice) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 23:56:23 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Lucas Part References: <20080705.192449.1900.8.dwflagg@juno.com> Message-ID: <02c601c8df24$a488bae0$67612bd1@iquest.net> Doug, 572619 is the base for Lucas Model 467-2, Number Plate Lamp. Lucas P/N 53093 & 53101. Craig Rice BN1 & BN2 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas W Flagg" To: Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Lucas Part > Can anyone tell me the application for Lucas part number 572619 which is > a license plate lamp base assembly? TIA. > > Doug From healey.nut at gmail.com Sat Jul 5 22:01:08 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 12:01:08 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Healey California trip mileage - others sought In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bill - Ethanol mix shouldn't reduce mileage that much, no more than 10%. so... 20 mpg -2 = 18 mpg with ethanol at the worst. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 10:10 AM, wrote: > Don't forget that with the new ethanol in the gas, your mileage is going to > drop! How much so will depend on your particular engine and the amount of heat > that you are in. > Bill > BJ7 From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Jul 5 22:42:42 2008 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 04:42:42 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Healey California trip mileage - others sought Message-ID: <070620080442.14214.48704D420002B99100003786220076370404040A0B079F9C0D@comcast.net> We've tracked mileage closely all over the western US and Canada for the last 16 years or so. It's been pretty consistent: 50-60mph => 22-24mpg 60-70mph => 20-22mpg 70-80mph => 18-20mpg Lower in hilly areas with lots of curves ;) bs -- *************************************************************** Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net '67 Austin-Healey 3000 '56 Austin-Healey 100M *************************************************************** -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: > Don't forget that with the new ethanol in the gas, your mileage is going to > drop! How much so will depend on your particular engine and the amount of heat > that you are in. > Bill > BJ7 > > > > > Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 18:16:12 -0700> From: steveg at abrazosdata.com> To: > healey.nut at gmail.com> CC: healeys at autox.team.net> Subject: [Healeys] Healey > California trip mileage - others sought> > Alan,> I actually have a hopped-up > 29D motor which runs quite strong--has a stock> cam and HD6 carbs with headers > and a DMD 2-carb manifold and 1.6 rockers.> > Now I'm interested in figuring > out why my mileage is bad. I wonder if our> local California fuel has anything > to do with it.> > Would like to hear trip mileages from other folks in Calif.> > -- > Steve Gerow> Pasadena CA> 59 BN6> > > > From: "Alan Seigrist" > > > > > Steve -> > > > Tom's right, your BN6 should be > doing better than 20 mpg on the highway.> From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Sat Jul 5 23:24:21 2008 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Leonard Hartnett) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 22:24:21 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Healey California trip mileage - others sought In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <520EC9275442424B9911F94CCF7EFBB2@LeonardPC> I am probably not the best case with which to make comparisons considering that I was towing my half-Healey trailer. Never-the-less, I can state that I had a couple of 19+ MPG legs with an overall average for the 1,219 mile trip of 17.20 MPG. This included two trips over the Tejon Pass (The Grapevine - 4,144 feet) and 165 miles in and around San Diego, including the rally, during the week. Both to and from, we maintained 60 MPH on I-5 in an attempt to save a few gas dollars. It was interesting to note that only two eighteen-wheelers (both empty) passed us during the whole trip. All the others were doing 55 MPH. Understandable with diesel running $5.00+ per gallon. (The Other) Len Vacaville, California, USA 1967 3000 MKIII, HBJ8L39031 From hypercubic at yahoo.co.uk Sun Jul 6 01:03:17 2008 From: hypercubic at yahoo.co.uk (mike brooks) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 00:03:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Re - Late BN2 door-to-scuttle seal Message-ID: <682327.88424.qm@web34205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks to all who responded. I now have a bracket set on its way. The list came up trumps yet again!! Mike Message: 8 Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 00:34:21 -0700 (PDT) From: mike brooks Subject: [Healeys]B Late BN2 door-to-scuttle seal To: Healeys Message-ID: <696314.71897.qm at web34207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Well, after several weeks I have the seals but no bracket sets. I ordered from SC Parts in the UK, but due to some hiccup in theirB stock controlB system, the brackets have not showed up, and now they are showing zero stock. If anyone has a bracket set in stock, or an individual has a spare set they are willing to sell, could you contact me off list? It would be for UK delivery. Actually I only need the flat strip shaped brackets - the other ones (which are shaped like a rectangular U and fit next to the top door hinge) are still original on the car and are in good condition. Many thanks Mike Brooks From hypercubic at yahoo.co.uk Sun Jul 6 01:15:23 2008 From: hypercubic at yahoo.co.uk (mike brooks) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 00:15:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] (Non Healey) Start ya Bastard Message-ID: <580621.1142.qm@web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Found this link by accident whenB googling for engine oil recommendations for running my Nissan Pathfinder in 120degF+ ambient temperatures here in the Middle East http://www.nulon.com.au/products.php?productName=Start_Ya_Bastard_Instant_Eng ine_Starter The product name just tickled my sense of humour. I'm sure you Aussie's are familiar with this stuff. Mike Brooks 56 BN2 From sbyers at ec.rr.com Sun Jul 6 06:01:58 2008 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 8:01:58 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Healey California trip mileage - others sought Message-ID: <26132816.684991215345718307.JavaMail.root@cdptpa-web10-z02> In 3,391 miles so far during the Conclave trip, I have purchased 155 gallons. That yields a mileage of 21.8 mpg. Most of that has been cruising at around 55 - 60 mph with occasional gusts up to 70. I don't know if George Haywood is keeping track of his mileage, but it's interesting that whenever we stop for gas we always put in the same amount within a few tenths or so. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA From jobu53 at hotmail.com Sun Jul 6 08:52:45 2008 From: jobu53 at hotmail.com (Dan Serrao) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 07:52:45 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel Tank Sending Unit Message-ID: On my way to Conclave my fuel tank sending unit went t.u. I purchased it a few years ago on Ebay and it had a plastic float. Does anyone know of a source for a quality replacement? On the Healy6 website there is a Ford unit but I'm not sure if it's a complete unit or just the float. TIA Dan Serrao 1963 BJ7 _________________________________________________________________ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_ Refresh_messenger_video_072008 From tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl Sun Jul 6 09:10:39 2008 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 17:10:39 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Suspension issues, was AH 100 first driving impressions In-Reply-To: <63B1A4D5F62C7B458A5B757A5EA81750046B325A@S4DE8PSAANH.t-systems.com> Message-ID: <008b01c8df7a$735f2ac0$0200a8c0@tm4> Josef, You may be very right... I will have to check the geometry of the chassis when I will start to disassemble the car to do the paint job & body repairs on it. Thank you all for advice & help!.. Tadek -----Original Message----- From: Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com [mailto:Josef.Eckert at t-systems.com] Sent: 4 lipca 2008 19:30 To: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: AW: [Healeys] AH 100 first driving impressions - Boy this is fun!... Tadek, Your thoughts are the same as mine were, when I realized the misalignment first. Then I started a thorough investigation and did lots of frame measurements and even realized that the right hand front wheel was 1.5cm further to the back than the left hand. It was only visible when you compared the wheel arches and contours of the wheels in the arch. During this checks I saw very minor signs of an accident, which was repaired I expect some 10 years before I bought the car in 1986. At the end it turned out that the lower wishbone mounts were replaced and welded back to the wrong places and with slightly wrong angle. So it was some work to get the suspension right again. Now to the precision of the factory work. I think the alignment was quite good, compared to the body work. My right hand door on my BN1 is 1cm longer than the left hand door! Both doors are the original doors. I also have a accident free 1962 BT7, with most of its original panels on the car. The alignment of the front suspension of this Healey is perfect. So I assume the quality some 6 years ago was not that bad, as you realize it on your car. Put your car on a pit or lifter to check and measure all distances and check for accident damage and you may find an answer to your questions. Josef Eckert Koenigswinter/Germany -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Tadeusz Malkiewicz [mailto:tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl] Gesendet: Freitag, 4. Juli 2008 19:02 An: Eckert, Josef; healeys at autox.team.net Betreff: RE: [Healeys] AH 100 first driving impressions - Boy this is fun!... Well, Please correct me if I am wrong, but the camber really signifies the relation of the upper and lower truunion while looking from the front of the car. This really means there is a triangle between the upper and lower trueunion |\0 <--upper truunion | \ | \ | \ | \ |_____\O <-- lower truunion The angle at the top of that triangle should be 1deg. The distance between the top and lower truunion is about 22cm. This means that the lower edge of the triangle should be almost 4mm. (if I remember my trigonometry correctly) My triangle is the other way, moved 2mm to the outside. This means my left side is 6mm off. The question is - was this due to accident or was it the way the cars were produced??.. How precisely were the cars manufactured as far as the frame is concerned??... What are the tolerances for these setups? Thanks, Tadek From ahbn6 at optonline.net Sun Jul 6 10:00:33 2008 From: ahbn6 at optonline.net (John Sims) Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 12:00:33 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel Tank Sending Unit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <010a01c8df81$6c2a0ed0$447e2c70$@net> It is just the float. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dan Serrao Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 10:53 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Fuel Tank Sending Unit On my way to Conclave my fuel tank sending unit went t.u. I purchased it a few years ago on Ebay and it had a plastic float. Does anyone know of a source for a quality replacement? On the Healy6 website there is a Ford unit but I'm not sure if it's a complete unit or just the float. TIA Dan Serrao 1963 BJ7 _________________________________________________________________ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL _ Refresh_messenger_video_072008 Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as ahbn6 at optonline.net http://www.team.net/archive From 57healey at gmail.com Sun Jul 6 10:28:14 2008 From: 57healey at gmail.com (Patton Dickson) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 11:28:14 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Carpet install question, almost half way done. In-Reply-To: <9918973.669141215302060218.JavaMail.root@cdptpa-web08-z02> References: <9918973.669141215302060218.JavaMail.root@cdptpa-web08-z02> Message-ID: <743b1e2f0807060928r39159a4fi7e273974ca4cc193@mail.gmail.com> It seems noone around here sells icepicks anymore. I found a 4 piece probe set at Home Depot that may work, I will find out this afternoon. Next time I mark everything with chalk before installing. Thanks Patton On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 6:54 PM, BJ8 Healeys wrote: > Patton, I use an ice pick as an awl for such purposes. You can poke around on and through the carpet quite a bit and no damage will be visible. Of course, if you have access to the back side of the holes, so much the better. > > Steve Byers > HBJ8L/36666 > BJ8 Registry > Havelock, NC USA -- Patton Dickson - http://Austin-Healeys.com - Plano, TX 1957 Austin-Healey 100-Six "Built to run 'til the road wears out." From wpollock at inbox.com Sun Jul 6 10:52:17 2008 From: wpollock at inbox.com (wpollock@inbox) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 12:52:17 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Jim Lea Message-ID: <001001c8df88$a7d687e0$4001a8c0@saybrook1> Jim,would you contact me off list. Have a question regarding the fellow who does the fire engine work up your way. Bill Pollock From ahbn6 at optonline.net Sun Jul 6 10:59:08 2008 From: ahbn6 at optonline.net (John Sims) Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 12:59:08 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Carpet install question, almost half way done. In-Reply-To: <743b1e2f0807060928r39159a4fi7e273974ca4cc193@mail.gmail.com> References: <9918973.669141215302060218.JavaMail.root@cdptpa-web08-z02> <743b1e2f0807060928r39159a4fi7e273974ca4cc193@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <010e01c8df89$9b6bb560$d2432020$@net> Try this URL http://www.chefdepot.net/icecarvingchisels2.htm Scroll down and you will see that they sell one for $8.75 John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Patton Dickson Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 12:28 PM To: BJ8 Healeys Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Carpet install question, almost half way done. It seems noone around here sells icepicks anymore. I found a 4 piece probe set at Home Depot that may work, I will find out this afternoon. Next time I mark everything with chalk before installing. Thanks Patton On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 6:54 PM, BJ8 Healeys wrote: > Patton, I use an ice pick as an awl for such purposes. You can poke around on and through the carpet quite a bit and no damage will be visible. Of course, if you have access to the back side of the holes, so much the better. From edriver at sasktel.net Sun Jul 6 11:03:13 2008 From: edriver at sasktel.net (E.A. Driver) Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 11:03:13 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Healey California trip mileage - others sought In-Reply-To: <070620080442.14214.48704D420002B99100003786220076370404040A0B079F9C0D@comcast.net> References: <070620080442.14214.48704D420002B99100003786220076370404040A0B079F9C0D@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4870FAD1.4000802@sasktel.net> Hello This is always an interesting topic (my BJ8 has DWR road/rallye camshaft, and is ported and polished and new HD8s). My results are similar to Bob's although his are slightly better (you can convert his to imperial measure by multiplying by 1.2 for the comparison).: pre- engine rebuild highway 26.9 mpg 91 premium 60-65 mph post engine rebuild highway 26.0 mpg 91 premium 60-65 mph highway 22.0 mpg 87 regular (10% ethanol) 60-80 (primarily 70+) city 13.9 mpg 91 or 87 speeds less than 35 mph Kind regards Ed Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada Historian, AHCUSA '53 BN1 '65 BJ8 '89 Morgan 4/4 Bob Spidell wrote: > We've tracked mileage closely all over the western US and Canada for the last 16 years or so. It's been pretty consistent: > > 50-60mph => 22-24mpg > 60-70mph => 20-22mpg > 70-80mph => 18-20mpg > > Lower in hilly areas with lots of curves ;) > > > bs > > -- > *************************************************************** > Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net > '67 Austin-Healey 3000 '56 Austin-Healey 100M > *************************************************************** From dwflagg at juno.com Sun Jul 6 11:05:12 2008 From: dwflagg at juno.com (Douglas W Flagg) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 13:05:12 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Carpet install question, almost half way done. Message-ID: <20080706.130513.3476.4.dwflagg@juno.com> Patton, I believe in order to purchase and own an ice pick these days you need a background check, a permit and a waiting period. There are classes offered by the National Ice pick Association on the safe use and handling of an ice pick. You are allowed to have an ice pick in your home but it must be in a locked container with the handle separated from the pick. This policy, along with the abolition of recess and gym in school has produced a generation of obese, but safe children. Doug > It seems no one around here sells ice picks anymore. I found a 4 > piece > probe set at Home Depot that may work, I will find out this > afternoon. > > Next time I mark everything with chalk before installing. > > Thanks > Patton > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 6:54 PM, BJ8 Healeys > wrote: > > Patton, I use an ice pick as an awl for such purposes. You can > poke around on and through the carpet quite a bit and no damage will > be visible. Of course, if you have access to the back side of the > holes, so much the better. > > > > Steve Byers > > HBJ8L/36666 > > BJ8 Registry > > Havelock, NC USA > -- > Patton Dickson - http://Austin-Healeys.com - Plano, TX > 1957 Austin-Healey 100-Six "Built to run 'til the road wears out." > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as dwflagg at juno.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > ____________________________________________________________ Get the sign you need for the impact you want. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3oB4gLfk0c6CCJBlKCCvUfmzyBLKOuUNBElmVqfgxWTfkXi8/ From tomfelts at windstream.net Sun Jul 6 11:41:01 2008 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (tomfelts at windstream.net) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 13:41:01 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Carpet install question, almost half way done. Message-ID: <20080706174101.TBOC22346.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> Anyone ACTUALLY remember using an ice pick?? I'll never tell. > > From: Douglas W Flagg > Date: 2008/07/06 Sun PM 01:05:12 EDT > To: 57healey at gmail.com > CC: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Carpet install question, almost half way done. > > Patton, > > I believe in order to purchase and own an ice pick these days you need a > background check, a permit and a waiting period. There are classes > offered by the National Ice pick Association on the safe use and handling > of an ice pick. You are allowed to have an ice pick in your home but it > must be in a locked container with the handle separated from the pick. > This policy, along with the abolition of recess and gym in school has > produced a generation of obese, but safe children. > > Doug > > > It seems no one around here sells ice picks anymore. I found a 4 > > piece > > probe set at Home Depot that may work, I will find out this > > afternoon. > > > > Next time I mark everything with chalk before installing. > > > > Thanks > > Patton > > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 6:54 PM, BJ8 Healeys > > wrote: > > > Patton, I use an ice pick as an awl for such purposes. You can > > poke around on and through the carpet quite a bit and no damage will > > be visible. Of course, if you have access to the back side of the > > holes, so much the better. > > > > > > Steve Byers > > > HBJ8L/36666 > > > BJ8 Registry > > > Havelock, NC USA > > -- > > Patton Dickson - http://Austin-Healeys.com - Plano, TX > > 1957 Austin-Healey 100-Six "Built to run 'til the road wears out." > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > You are subscribed as dwflagg at juno.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Get the sign you need for the impact you want. Click now! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3oB4gLfk0c6CCJBlKCCvUfmzyBLKOuUNBElmVqfgxWTfkXi8/ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From dwflagg at juno.com Sun Jul 6 12:00:31 2008 From: dwflagg at juno.com (Douglas W Flagg) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 14:00:31 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Carpet install question, almost half way done. Message-ID: <20080706.140032.3476.5.dwflagg@juno.com> Tom, Yes, ACTUALLY, we did at work a few years back when removing ice from the freezer section of the office frig. Unfortunately, it punctured one of the refrigerant lines, which, I believe, is why you now need a permit to use one!! :) Doug > Anyone ACTUALLY remember using an ice pick?? > > I'll never tell. > > > > From: Douglas W Flagg > > Date: 2008/07/06 Sun PM 01:05:12 EDT > > To: 57healey at gmail.com > > CC: healeys at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Carpet install question, almost half way > done. > > > > Patton, > > > > I believe in order to purchase and own an ice pick these days you > need a > > background check, a permit and a waiting period. There are > classes > > offered by the National Ice pick Association on the safe use and > handling > > of an ice pick. You are allowed to have an ice pick in your home > but it > > must be in a locked container with the handle separated from the > pick. > > This policy, along with the abolition of recess and gym in school > has > > produced a generation of obese, but safe children. > > > > Doug > > > > > It seems no one around here sells ice picks anymore. I found a > 4 > > > piece > > > probe set at Home Depot that may work, I will find out this > > > afternoon. > > > > > > Next time I mark everything with chalk before installing. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Patton > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 6:54 PM, BJ8 Healeys > > > wrote: > > > > Patton, I use an ice pick as an awl for such purposes. You > can > > > poke around on and through the carpet quite a bit and no damage > will > > > be visible. Of course, if you have access to the back side of > the > > > holes, so much the better. > > > > > > > > Steve Byers > > > > HBJ8L/36666 > > > > BJ8 Registry > > > > Havelock, NC USA > > > -- > > > Patton Dickson - http://Austin-Healeys.com - Plano, TX > > > 1957 Austin-Healey 100-Six "Built to run 'til the road wears > out." > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > > > You are subscribed as dwflagg at juno.com > > > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > Get the sign you need for the impact you want. Click now! > > > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3oB4gLfk0c6CCJBlKCCvUfm zyBLKOuUNBElmVqfgxWTfkXi8/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net > > > > http://www.team.net/archive From ahbn6 at optonline.net Sun Jul 6 12:02:52 2008 From: ahbn6 at optonline.net (John Sims) Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 14:02:52 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Carpet install question, almost half way done. In-Reply-To: <20080706174101.TBOC22346.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> References: <20080706174101.TBOC22346.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> Message-ID: <010f01c8df92$829e70a0$87db51e0$@net> Yes and the window sign with numbers at the four corners to tell the iceman how many pounds to drop off. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of tomfelts at windstream.net Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 1:41 PM To: Douglas W Flagg; 57healey at gmail.com Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Carpet install question, almost half way done. Anyone ACTUALLY remember using an ice pick?? I'll never tell. > > From: Douglas W Flagg > Date: 2008/07/06 Sun PM 01:05:12 EDT > To: 57healey at gmail.com > CC: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Carpet install question, almost half way done. > > Patton, > > I believe in order to purchase and own an ice pick these days you need a > background check, a permit and a waiting period. There are classes > offered by the National Ice pick Association on the safe use and handling > of an ice pick. You are allowed to have an ice pick in your home but it > must be in a locked container with the handle separated from the pick. > This policy, along with the abolition of recess and gym in school has > produced a generation of obese, but safe children. From e-wilkins at cox.net Sun Jul 6 12:13:24 2008 From: e-wilkins at cox.net (Eric Wilkins (Rick)) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 11:13:24 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Conclave Pictures In-Reply-To: <4870FAD1.4000802@sasktel.net> References: <070620080442.14214.48704D420002B99100003786220076370404040A0B079F9C0D@comcast.net> <4870FAD1.4000802@sasktel.net> Message-ID: <408EA187-3022-4E06-837F-4A145C384FDE@cox.net> Hello all, I have been too busy to do any club activities, or even fix/drive my old Healey, but I ran down to the big show Tuesday during my lunch break and took a few pics as I took in the huge scene. Thanks to all involved for putting on what had to be an incredible event. Enjoy, Wilko San Diego There were many very nice cars there and my favorite was probably John Close's car in the parking lot: http://ewilkins.com/wilko/conclave08/ah_close_full.jpg http://ewilkins.com/wilko/conclave08/ah_close.jpg This car and owner were awesome encouraging visitors to sit in the car (beautiful 100 with Kirk Kvam inspired paint scheme) http://ewilkins.com/wilko/conclave08/ah_imagine.jpg Acouple of engines. A 100 being concours judged, and a 100-S on the sidewalk: http://ewilkins.com/wilko/conclave08/ah_m_engine.jpg http://ewilkins.com/wilko/conclave08/ah_s_engine.jpg Diamond in the rough: http://ewilkins.com/wilko/conclave08/ah_rough.jpg 100-S color on a 100: http://ewilkins.com/wilko/conclave08/ah_s_color.jpg And the Healey boat! http://ewilkins.com/wilko/conclave08/ah_boat.jpg From autofarm at cyg.net Sun Jul 6 12:17:54 2008 From: autofarm at cyg.net (Bob Yule) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 14:17:54 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] bargain Message-ID: <000d01c8df94$9d272000$6500a8c0@OFFICE> E-BAY 120277903117 Anybody looking for a bargain, should not miss this opportunity!! Cheers.......Bob Check out our web site www.autofarm.net From edriver at sasktel.net Sun Jul 6 12:28:32 2008 From: edriver at sasktel.net (E.A. Driver) Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 12:28:32 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Carpet install question, almost half way done. In-Reply-To: <20080706174101.TBOC22346.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> References: <20080706174101.TBOC22346.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> Message-ID: <48710ED0.9030604@sasktel.net> Hi Tom Yes, icing fish samples in northern Ontario for shipment to our lab in Sioux Lookout, Ontario Regards Ed tomfelts at windstream.net wrote: > Anyone ACTUALLY remember using an ice pick?? > > I'll never tell. > >> From: Douglas W Flagg >> Date: 2008/07/06 Sun PM 01:05:12 EDT >> To: 57healey at gmail.com >> CC: healeys at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Carpet install question, almost half way done. >> >> Patton, >> >> I believe in order to purchase and own an ice pick these days you need a >> background check, a permit and a waiting period. There are classes >> offered by the National Ice pick Association on the safe use and handling >> of an ice pick. You are allowed to have an ice pick in your home but it >> must be in a locked container with the handle separated from the pick. >> This policy, along with the abolition of recess and gym in school has >> produced a generation of obese, but safe children. >> >> Doug >> >> >>> It seems no one around here sells ice picks anymore. I found a 4 >>> piece >>> probe set at Home Depot that may work, I will find out this >>> afternoon. >>> >>> Next time I mark everything with chalk before installing. >>> >>> Thanks >>> Patton >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 6:54 PM, BJ8 Healeys >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Patton, I use an ice pick as an awl for such purposes. You can >>>> >>> poke around on and through the carpet quite a bit and no damage will >>> be visible. Of course, if you have access to the back side of the >>> holes, so much the better. >>> >>>> Steve Byers >>>> HBJ8L/36666 >>>> BJ8 Registry >>>> Havelock, NC USA >>>> >>> -- >>> Patton Dickson - http://Austin-Healeys.com - Plano, TX >>> 1957 Austin-Healey 100-Six "Built to run 'til the road wears out." >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> You are subscribed as dwflagg at juno.com >>> >>> http://www.team.net/archive From cfrazer at jcomm.uoregon.edu Sun Jul 6 12:38:48 2008 From: cfrazer at jcomm.uoregon.edu (Charlie Frazer) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 11:38:48 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Boot Cover Message-ID: <7401d75170182b71bcc936742434c424@jcomm.uoregon.edu> Does anyone know if there are instructions for fitting a boot cover posted anywhere? If not, does anyone have suggestions for going about it? Thanks for your help. Charlie Frazer cfrazer at uoregon.edu From shop at justbrits.com Sun Jul 6 13:43:50 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 13:43:50 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Carpet install question, almost half way done. References: <20080706.130513.3476.4.dwflagg@juno.com> Message-ID: <013b01c8dfa0$9dac1100$6501a8c0@shop> <> "Snoopes.com" says that is TRUE Doug & Patton !!! Anon From fredwescoe at windstream.net Sun Jul 6 12:47:37 2008 From: fredwescoe at windstream.net (Fred Wescoe) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 14:47:37 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Ice Pick Message-ID: <002c01c8df98$c32209b0$6500a8c0@D10F7N31> Yes gang there are ice picks out there. I used one on Friday to separate dry ice from regular ice in a cooler used to transport frozen food home from Philadelphia. Ice picks can be found in most liquor stores in the bar supply implement isle. A second place to look is in Home Depot/Lowes/hardware store in the isle with awls. It can also be called a scribe or a scratch awl. This tool is used by cabinet makers/carpenters to mark wood instead of using a pencil. Happy hunting. Fred 63 BJ7 From shop at justbrits.com Sun Jul 6 14:25:53 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 14:25:53 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] bargain References: <000d01c8df94$9d272000$6500a8c0@OFFICE> Message-ID: <018501c8dfa6$7daca210$6501a8c0@shop> <> Gee Bob, I wonder why "Buyer protection on eBay" is NOT available??? From 57healey at gmail.com Sun Jul 6 13:28:14 2008 From: 57healey at gmail.com (Patton Dickson) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 14:28:14 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Carpet install question, almost half way done. In-Reply-To: <013b01c8dfa0$9dac1100$6501a8c0@shop> References: <20080706.130513.3476.4.dwflagg@juno.com> <013b01c8dfa0$9dac1100$6501a8c0@shop> Message-ID: <743b1e2f0807061228u77d1f890s14ce88d696b65834@mail.gmail.com> It's a strange world, I glad Snoopes is there with the truth ;) On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Ed's Shop wrote: > "Snoopes.com" says that is TRUE Doug & Patton !!!> -- Patton Dickson - http://Austin-Healeys.com - Plano, TX 1957 Austin-Healey 100-Six "Built to run 'til the road wears out." From rdavies1 at cox.net Sun Jul 6 13:29:13 2008 From: rdavies1 at cox.net (Ron Davies) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 12:29:13 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] bargain In-Reply-To: <000d01c8df94$9d272000$6500a8c0@OFFICE> References: <000d01c8df94$9d272000$6500a8c0@OFFICE> Message-ID: <00a401c8df9e$926d69d0$6501a8c0@OfficeDell> Bob: Do you think the house comes with it? Ron E-BAY 120277903117 Anybody looking for a bargain, should not miss this opportunity!! Cheers.......Bob From cfrazer at jcomm.uoregon.edu Sun Jul 6 13:29:08 2008 From: cfrazer at jcomm.uoregon.edu (Charlie Frazer) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 12:29:08 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Hood not boot Message-ID: Sorry. I'm looking for instruction for fitting a hood (top) cover on a BJ8. Thanks for any suggestions. Charlie Frazer cfrazer at uoregon.edu From 57healey at gmail.com Sun Jul 6 13:36:16 2008 From: 57healey at gmail.com (Patton Dickson) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 14:36:16 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] bargain In-Reply-To: <000d01c8df94$9d272000$6500a8c0@OFFICE> References: <000d01c8df94$9d272000$6500a8c0@OFFICE> Message-ID: <743b1e2f0807061236y51e257cbg9a2a00c7f5d1e04@mail.gmail.com> I didn't see paypal as an option so that counts me out :) On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Bob Yule wrote: > E-BAY 120277903117 Anybody looking for a bargain, should not miss this > opportunity!! > Cheers.......Bob -- Patton Dickson - http://Austin-Healeys.com - Plano, TX 1957 Austin-Healey 100-Six "Built to run 'til the road wears out." From gbrierton at hotmail.com Sun Jul 6 14:12:54 2008 From: gbrierton at hotmail.com (gary brierton) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 16:12:54 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] (no subject) Message-ID: hello list, Well, I've started my solo voyage back to Nort' Carolina. Day one was not exactly solo as I caravanned with Greg & Nancy Lauser. I started the day with just enough gas for 30 or 40 miles of travel. We tried 40+ and I had the "Fuel Pumps Ticking constantly & real fast Blues". We coasted me backtracking to Alpine where I accidently and stupidly pressed Premium, which turned out to be $8.99/gal.!! I swallowed my pride, paid the man and we were off. Slow mountain roads (Cal. 79 - 78) and a breakfast in Justin (Pop. <1,000) and we finally got to Arizona where I split off from Gregg on to 60 to Camp Verde, AZ. A hot trip taking 10 hours to reel off 444 miles. Just made it to the Comfort Inn front shelter when a hail storm broke out. Good luck following bad, I'd say. Day 2 was a 5am to 10am run through fantastic Northern AZ - Southern UT scenery to Blanding UT. 300 miles in 5 hours flat; now we're talking! Steve, I missed seeing you guys. Was shooting digital shots out the window at speed...maybe you will show up in those. Day three was 6am to 12 noon, 365 miles to Dillon, CO. You can't beat these Interstates when the weather is cool & dry. Just made it to the Comfort Inn front shelter when a thunder-storm broke out. Lucky, again. Weather was cool. Saw a bad accident at the Vail Summit on I-70. Haven't calculated mileage yet... looks like 22+ GaryB and the Silver Bullet From lgalper1 at cox.net Sun Jul 6 14:22:21 2008 From: lgalper1 at cox.net (Lou G) Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 13:22:21 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Hardtop available Message-ID: <4871297D.7010701@cox.net> Nick at Nical Engineering still has one hardtop available that was brought to Conclave in San Diego. He is still vacationing in San Diego. His San Diego phone number is: 619-315-8199 From tomfelts at windstream.net Sun Jul 6 14:26:45 2008 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (tomfelts at windstream.net) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 16:26:45 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Boot Cover Message-ID: <20080706202645.BBEW22346.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> What is a boot cover? > > From: Charlie Frazer > Date: 2008/07/06 Sun PM 02:38:48 EDT > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] Boot Cover > > Does anyone know if there are instructions for fitting a boot cover > posted anywhere? > If not, does anyone have suggestions for going about it? > Thanks for your help. > Charlie Frazer > cfrazer at uoregon.edu > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sun Jul 6 14:55:46 2008 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (Rick Neville) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 13:55:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Nipple Wanted Message-ID: <419246.47754.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Anyone have a spare vacuum advance port (the small nipple that connects from the carburetor base to the rubber tube that goes to the copper line to the dizzy vacuum advance) for an HS6 from a BJ7? Please contact me off list., I knew it was a vacuum advance port, but if I titled it that, no one would read the post. Thanks in advance, Rick From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sun Jul 6 15:01:44 2008 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (Rick Neville) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 14:01:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Sticky Fingers Message-ID: <498076.71793.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Number 2 in a series of mildly suggestive topics. I was having a great deal of trouble trying to get one of the lower inside carb nuts started on my BJ7 today. Usually, when I want to offer up a nut on a stud in an out of the way place, I'll place a dab of grease on my finger to hold the nut in place while I get it started. That didn't work here and the nut just kept sliding off my fingers. What I needed was something stickier. Looking at my various elixirs and potions I spied the 3M upholstery adhesive. Perfect! Sprayed some on my fingers, let it tack up and stuck the nut on the end of my finger. Worked a treat! HR From ronald-ray at sbcglobal.net Sun Jul 6 15:41:21 2008 From: ronald-ray at sbcglobal.net (Ronald J. Ray) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 16:41:21 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Sticky Fingers In-Reply-To: <498076.71793.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Even though I though your post was going to be about what many consider The Rolling Stones greatest album (releases in 1971 with such songs as Brown Sugar and Wild Horses), I appreciate the innovative solution to holding nuts. Ron -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+ronald-ray=sbcglobal.net at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+ronald-ray=sbcglobal.net at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Rick Neville Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 3:02 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Sticky Fingers Number 2 in a series of mildly suggestive topics. I was having a great deal of trouble trying to get one of the lower inside carb nuts started on my BJ7 today. Usually, when I want to offer up a nut on a stud in an out of the way place, I'll place a dab of grease on my finger to hold the nut in place while I get it started. That didn't work here and the nut just kept sliding off my fingers. What I needed was something stickier. Looking at my various elixirs and potions I spied the 3M upholstery adhesive. Perfect! Sprayed some on my fingers, let it tack up and stuck the nut on the end of my finger. Worked a treat! HR From rdavies1 at cox.net Sun Jul 6 15:41:19 2008 From: rdavies1 at cox.net (Ron Davies) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 14:41:19 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] bargain In-Reply-To: <018501c8dfa6$7daca210$6501a8c0@shop> References: <000d01c8df94$9d272000$6500a8c0@OFFICE> <018501c8dfa6$7daca210$6501a8c0@shop> Message-ID: <00d601c8dfb1$06991400$6501a8c0@OfficeDell> IMHO, Buyer Protection means nothing anyway on E-Bay. I "won" two baseball tickets with a "buy-it-now", got the confirmation and when I tried to pay via CC by phone as requested, they said it "was a mistake" and I could have them for THREE times the amount. E-Bay was no help at all. They couldn't care less. Yes I reported them every which way I could. Beware. Ron Gee Bob, I wonder why "Buyer protection on eBay" is NOT available??? From 57healey at gmail.com Sun Jul 6 15:48:32 2008 From: 57healey at gmail.com (Patton Dickson) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 16:48:32 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Carpet install question, almost half way done. In-Reply-To: <743b1e2f0807060928r39159a4fi7e273974ca4cc193@mail.gmail.com> References: <9918973.669141215302060218.JavaMail.root@cdptpa-web08-z02> <743b1e2f0807060928r39159a4fi7e273974ca4cc193@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <743b1e2f0807061448m6371a64eld9e289aba1f4ef01@mail.gmail.com> I got the below 4pc Precision Blade Probe Set for ~$8 at Home Depot. It should work fine. http://www.generaltools.com/Products/4pc-Precision-Blade-Probe-Set__60004.aspx Patton -- Patton Dickson - http://Austin-Healeys.com - Plano, TX 1957 Austin-Healey 100-Six "Built to run 'til the road wears out." From sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au Sun Jul 6 17:20:16 2008 From: sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au (sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 09:20:16 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Sticky Fingers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1215386416.48715330182a5@webmail.hotkey.net.au> Quoting "Ronald J. Ray" : > Even though I though your post was going to be about what many consider The > Rolling Stones greatest album (releases in 1971 with such songs as Brown > Sugar and Wild Horses), I appreciate the innovative solution to holding > nuts. > > Ron > RON you are a great man with such an eye and ear for style and emotion.Driving a car that won the 'Best of the New York' motor show with its lines, the sound of a six cylinder ( prefferably on Webers ) and Keith Richards band filling in the voids.Note that L... Vitton fashion house has elected Keith as its 'Image Maker' Joe - just drove to the office with Jerry Lee L and his 1983 Live Album ( CD ) From Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au Sun Jul 6 17:29:47 2008 From: Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au (Quinn, Patrick) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 09:29:47 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Nipple Wanted In-Reply-To: <419246.47754.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <419246.47754.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3CFB7014611C6F418B529D81EC0708C70169F812@itfexch5.central.det.win> G'day Rick I am really glad that it's not just me who thinks along these lines. I think it was a sad day for the automotive industry when they introduced "sealed-for-life" tie-rods and other suspension components. The world would be a far better place if there were more nipples to play with. Just think about how boring life would be if we just had to lie on our backs and not be able to use our grease guns on the nipples. Surely nipples are the life blood of the universe. More nipples, more use of the grease gun, more fun ways of passing the time and ultimately more sticky fingers. What more would a bloke want to do with his Austin-Healey? I have been telling my wife this for years, but usually it just falls on a rolled over back. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia Ps Where it's Monday morning and I am looking for every diversion I can. -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+patrick.quinn=det.nsw.edu.au at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+patrick.quinn=det.nsw.edu.au at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rick Neville Sent: Monday, 7 July 2008 6:56 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Nipple Wanted Anyone have a spare vacuum advance port (the small nipple that connects from the carburetor base to the rubber tube that goes to the copper line to the dizzy vacuum advance) for an HS6 from a BJ7? Please contact me off list., I knew it was a vacuum advance port, but if I titled it that, no one would read the post. Thanks in advance, Rick ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sun Jul 6 17:52:08 2008 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (Rick Neville) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 16:52:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Nipple Wanted In-Reply-To: <3CFB7014611C6F418B529D81EC0708C70169F812@itfexch5.central.det.win> Message-ID: <825108.37040.qm@web51404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Patrick, Given that the list is largely populated by debauched OWGs (old white guys) with short attention spans, one has to choose one's topic carefully in order to get a response. Horses for courses, y'know. Happy Healeying, Rick --- On Sun, 7/6/08, Quinn, Patrick wrote: From: Quinn, Patrick Subject: RE: [Healeys] Nipple Wanted To: healeyrick at yahoo.com, healeys at autox.team.net Date: Sunday, July 6, 2008, 7:29 PM G'day Rick I am really glad that it's not just me who thinks along these lines. I think it was a sad day for the automotive industry when they introduced "sealed-for-life" tie-rods and other suspension components. The world would be a far better place if there were more nipples to play with. Just think about how boring life would be if we just had to lie on our backs and not be able to use our grease guns on the nipples. Surely nipples are the life blood of the universe. More nipples, more use of the grease gun, more fun ways of passing the time and ultimately more sticky fingers. What more would a bloke want to do with his Austin-Healey? I have been telling my wife this for years, but usually it just falls on a rolled over back. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia Ps Where it's Monday morning and I am looking for every diversion I can. -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+patrick.quinn=det.nsw.edu.au at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+patrick.quinn=det.nsw.edu.au at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rick Neville Sent: Monday, 7 July 2008 6:56 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Nipple Wanted Anyone have a spare vacuum advance port (the small nipple that connects from the carburetor base to the rubber tube that goes to the copper line to the dizzy vacuum advance) for an HS6 from a BJ7? Please contact me off list., I knew it was a vacuum advance port, but if I titled it that, no one would read the post. Thanks in advance, Rick ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From shop at justbrits.com Sun Jul 6 18:58:20 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 18:58:20 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] bargain References: <000d01c8df94$9d272000$6500a8c0@OFFICE> <018501c8dfa6$7daca210$6501a8c0@shop> <00d601c8dfb1$06991400$6501a8c0@OfficeDell> Message-ID: <00bc01c8dfcc$8d485770$6501a8c0@shop> Ron: <> Agreed. My "comment" was said with tongue stuck FIRMLY in cheek!!!! er, unless you 'bought' the car!?!?!?!? From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sun Jul 6 18:04:41 2008 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (Rick Neville) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 17:04:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Nipple Wanted In-Reply-To: <825108.37040.qm@web51404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <328078.20707.qm@web51401.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hey Ed, Doesn't Hortense have a spare nipple? Rick --- On Sun, 7/6/08, Rick Neville wrote: From: Rick Neville Subject: Re: [Healeys] Nipple Wanted To: healeys at autox.team.net, "Quinn, Patrick" Date: Sunday, July 6, 2008, 7:52 PM Patrick, Given that the list is largely populated by debauched OWGs (old white guys) with short attention spans, one has to choose one's topic carefully in order to get a response. Horses for courses, y'know. Happy Healeying, Rick --- On Sun, 7/6/08, Quinn, Patrick wrote: From: Quinn, Patrick Subject: RE: [Healeys] Nipple Wanted To: healeyrick at yahoo.com, healeys at autox.team.net Date: Sunday, July 6, 2008, 7:29 PM G'day Rick I am really glad that it's not just me who thinks along these lines. I think it was a sad day for the automotive industry when they introduced "sealed-for-life" tie-rods and other suspension components. The world would be a far better place if there were more nipples to play with. Just think about how boring life would be if we just had to lie on our backs and not be able to use our grease guns on the nipples. Surely nipples are the life blood of the universe. More nipples, more use of the grease gun, more fun ways of passing the time and ultimately more sticky fingers. What more would a bloke want to do with his Austin-Healey? I have been telling my wife this for years, but usually it just falls on a rolled over back. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia Ps Where it's Monday morning and I am looking for every diversion I can. -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+patrick.quinn=det.nsw.edu.au at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+patrick.quinn=det.nsw.edu.au at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rick Neville Sent: Monday, 7 July 2008 6:56 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Nipple Wanted Anyone have a spare vacuum advance port (the small nipple that connects from the carburetor base to the rubber tube that goes to the copper line to the dizzy vacuum advance) for an HS6 from a BJ7? Please contact me off list., I knew it was a vacuum advance port, but if I titled it that, no one would read the post. Thanks in advance, Rick ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive From shop at justbrits.com Sun Jul 6 19:28:04 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 19:28:04 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Nipple Wanted References: <328078.20707.qm@web51401.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00f901c8dfd0$b4953c90$6501a8c0@shop> <> Sure, Rick. $25,000.00 and you pay 'shipping'!!! From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sun Jul 6 18:43:52 2008 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (Rick Neville) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 17:43:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Nipple Wanted In-Reply-To: <00f901c8dfd0$b4953c90$6501a8c0@shop> Message-ID: <750763.23765.qm@web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> If I wanted to pay Mo$$ prices, I would've gone to their website! LOL! HR --- On Sun, 7/6/08, Ed's Shop wrote: From: Ed's Shop Subject: Re: [Healeys] Nipple Wanted To: healeys at autox.team.net Date: Sunday, July 6, 2008, 9:28 PM <> Sure, Rick. $25,000.00 and you pay 'shipping'!!! Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive From healey.nut at gmail.com Sun Jul 6 18:45:32 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 08:45:32 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] bargain In-Reply-To: <000d01c8df94$9d272000$6500a8c0@OFFICE> References: <000d01c8df94$9d272000$6500a8c0@OFFICE> Message-ID: I can buy a 17th century chateau in the Loire Valley for that price! Ooops I forgot about the exchange rate... wah wah wah waaaaah.. Alan On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 2:17 AM, Bob Yule wrote: > E-BAY 120277903117 Anybody looking for a bargain, should not miss this > opportunity!! > Cheers.......Bob > Check out our web site www.autofarm.net From healey.nut at gmail.com Sun Jul 6 19:06:28 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 09:06:28 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Nipple Wanted In-Reply-To: <419246.47754.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <419246.47754.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Rick, et.al., Not that I will post yet another nipple joke that will send all you angry old white men a titter (badumpshh), but to answer your question Rick, you should be able to get this part from Burlen or SU midel new: http://www.burlen.co.uk/sidelinkSearch.aspx?sideLinkID=209 http://www.sumidel.com/ Generally speaking I find SU Midel to be a little more helpful and to have more odd bits in stock, although you will have to deal with another angry white old man named Bill Bressington but he's a good chap nonetheless. Speaking of angry old white men.... gentlemen, may I Introduce you to George Liquor, American: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=C7PC5VX9B5I my all time favorite role model! Cheers, Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 4:55 AM, Rick Neville wrote: > Anyone have a spare vacuum advance port (the small nipple that connects from > the carburetor base to the rubber tube that goes to the copper line to the > dizzy vacuum advance) for an HS6 from a BJ7? Please contact me off list., > > I knew it was a vacuum advance port, but if I titled it that, no one would > read the post. > > Thanks in advance, > Rick From Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au Sun Jul 6 19:36:09 2008 From: Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au (Quinn, Patrick) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 11:36:09 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Nipple Wanted In-Reply-To: References: <419246.47754.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3CFB7014611C6F418B529D81EC0708C70169F818@itfexch5.central.det.win> G'day Alan Sadly Bill Bressington succumbed to a long bout of cancer a little time back. I had the pleasure of interviewing Bill a few years back about when he was involved in motor sport during the 1950s and '60s both here in Australia and in Europe. He was always in great demand here as the font of knowledge on all things SU. During his prime Bill was known as Mr Brasso due to him always carrying a can of the metal cleaner with him so he could clean SU needles for optimum performance. When in Europe he bought out all the remaining spare parts of SU when it was still part of BMC. He is the only person that I know who had the complete array of parts for making the extreme rare dual-throat SU that was originally fitted to the BN3/1. However at close to $2,000 each and I need 3 I had to declined. SU Midel is still thriving and offering first class service under the control of sons Grant and Adam Bressington. Have a look at www.sumidel.com Yes they pay me a zillion dollars for every SU carburettor needle they sell - so buy lots. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia 1947 Healey Duncan Saloon 1954 Austin-Healey 100 BN3/1 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+patrick.quinn=det.nsw.edu.au at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+patrick.quinn=det.nsw.edu.au at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Alan Seigrist Sent: Monday, 7 July 2008 11:06 AM To: healeyrick at yahoo.com Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Nipple Wanted Rick, et.al., Not that I will post yet another nipple joke that will send all you angry old white men a titter (badumpshh), but to answer your question Rick, you should be able to get this part from Burlen or SU midel new: http://www.burlen.co.uk/sidelinkSearch.aspx?sideLinkID=209 http://www.sumidel.com/ Generally speaking I find SU Midel to be a little more helpful and to have more odd bits in stock, although you will have to deal with another angry white old man named Bill Bressington but he's a good chap nonetheless. Speaking of angry old white men.... gentlemen, may I Introduce you to George Liquor, American: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=C7PC5VX9B5I my all time favorite role model! Cheers, Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From kit at henrymotorsports.com Sun Jul 6 20:11:53 2008 From: kit at henrymotorsports.com (Kit Henry) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 22:11:53 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Last time going to ebay Message-ID: <001601c8dfd6$d2df3ce0$030ba8c0@henryfce283bea> The economy is down and so is work so the car is going on the block With little response I will relist the car with a lower asking price 1965 BJ 8 Drivable right now Cream body over red interior 2 sets of wheels one chrome set on regular set (Never counted the spokes Has toneau cover Chrome good to excellent Overdrive works Needs trans leak repaired though shifts fine Needs body outer 1/2 paint for a nice daily drivers full re paint if you are going to concourse Car is very solid no rust to my knowledge Car is located in Bellevue, Ohio 1/2 way between Toledo and Cleveland Would like $27,500.00 with all spares Photos available Private owner that has dealer license for car collection purposes Hate to sell though unless someone is interested in advertising tax advantages, my son's racing must go on www.caphenryracing.com Private e-mail to kit at henrymotorsports.com 419-217-0685 From shop at justbrits.com Sun Jul 6 21:59:52 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 21:59:52 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Nipple Wanted References: <750763.23765.qm@web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <021401c8dfe5$e97eb840$6501a8c0@shop> <> Then you would NOT have gotten a discount, Rick !!! From blkbt7 at yahoo.com Sun Jul 6 21:06:17 2008 From: blkbt7 at yahoo.com (Bob Brown) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 20:06:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Return From San Diego Message-ID: <962659.89546.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> We left the hotel about 4:15 AM Friday, north on I-15 to I-70 in Utah and then east on I-70 to Green River,UT. Hot was not the word for the day. Almost 719 miles the first day, stopped just before dark (what ever time that was). Ian drove the Bugeye and I the BT7 all but 60 miles the ladies drove, they got the hottest part of day and the hottest road. Had a minor bout of vapor lock in mid Utah in the BT7, as with the trip out both cars ran HOT. Most of the day we drove by engine temperature rather than speedometer. Saturday we let about 5:15 AM, Vail pass and the Eisenhower pass were spectaclular as was most of the scenery before Denver. Leaving early allowed us to use a little more speed vs. Friday. The Lempert 3:55 gear is certainly not meant for uphills like you find in the Interstate in CO. The second mountain was a lot easier than the first after getting a little experience. Ian continued to tinker with the front suspension, sway bar, toe-in. At our lunch stop Ian replaced away bar bushing with a couple of pieces of rubber hose I had. It held togther until we got home. The BT7 picked up a staple on the left rear but held air. Walmart had a pair tires to replace the unfixable and put the other in the boot as a new spare. 764 miles to York, NE. stopping at about dark again. Sunday, slept in start on the road at 7 AM, no excitement except the delay for a motorcycle accident clean-up in Iowa some place. The Bugeye is usung a little oil but not an unmanageable amount. Engine temperatures were much better able to run in upper 70 mph range most of the day. Arrived home (Cicago suburb) about 5:30PM only 528 miles today. a total of 2011 miles from SanDiego to Chicago in 3 days of driving:) Don't know why Gary was in Colorado after 3 days when he only had to deal with one person at all the rest stops? Next year Conclave is in Kingston, Ontario, just over a days drive, what a relief. Bob hello list, Well, I've started my solo voyage back to Nort' Carolina. . A hot trip taking 10 hours to reel off 444 miles. Just made it to the Comfort Inn front shelter when a hail storm broke out. Day 2 was a 5am to 10am run through fantastic Northern AZ - Southern UT scenery to Blanding UT. 300 miles in 5 hours flat; now we're talking! Steve, I missed seeing you guys. Day three was 6am to 12 noon, 365 miles to Dillon, CO. GaryB and the Silver Bullet From steveg at abrazosdata.com Sun Jul 6 22:30:35 2008 From: steveg at abrazosdata.com (Steve B. Gerow) Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 21:30:35 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Mileage followup Message-ID: An envious thanks to all who got 20+ mpg on the survey. Were the cars all BJ8s or were there HD6s or tricarbs? I understand the HD8s get better mileage. -- Steve Gerow Pasadena CA 59 BN6 From Editorgary at aol.com Sun Jul 6 22:41:39 2008 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 00:41:39 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Home before dark Message-ID: Thanks in part to suggestions by Ron Rader and others on this list George Henke and I had a pleasant trip home from San Diego to the Bay area, with the only really unpleasant time being the stretch between LAX and Santa Monica on the 405, which lasted only about 15 minutes. We followed I5 up to San Clemente early on Saturday morning, mostly through the cool, moist marine layer, then pulled off at the first exit in San Clemente in search of breakfast. Pulling into the driverway of a garage that advertised "We repair American, European, and Japanese Cars" to get our bearings, we decided to try further down the road, when we heard from the garage: "Don't go anywhere until I've had a chance to look at your cars." The older fellow in the garage said he had a 100, just like George's, in his garage that he was going to restore when he got the time. He'd had it since 1974. But he sent us a block down the street to "The Sugar Shack" -- an independent little place that turned out to have the best breakfasts in town according to one of the folks waiting on line for a table when we came out after eating. Apparently we got there just in time to avoid the rush. >From San Clemente we followed the Pacific Coast Highway through several beach towns with Laguna in their names, slow and stop-light ridden, but fun to see the Orange County beach folks at play on a Saturday morning. Then up past Orange County Airport and on the 405 to Santa Monica, where we picked up 1 again along the Pacific Palisades, past the gated mansions near Malibu and up to Oxnard along some beautiful curvy coastal highways, with little traffic, even on a Saturday morning. >From there through Santa Barbara along 101, where we could see the plumes of smoke rising out of the hills above SB and Goleta and the fire trucks moving from place to place along the county roads, close enough to the fire to get ash dropped on the cars occasionally. From there all that was left was the stretch of 101 made famous in the movie Sideways -- pretty driving -- to Bob Segui's in Santa Maria. Thanks, Ron, for the suggestions. The coastal interludes were a nice way to break up the freeway driving. Today, it was an easy trip up 101 to San Jose, but from the road, we could see the smoke clouds along the coastal ridges west of King City -- scary stuff. Not the longest drive I've ever made to a Conclave or Rendezvous -- about 525 miles each way -- but pleasant and personally incident-free, with my BN7 and George's BN1 running like champs the whole way. Cheers Gary ************** Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) From f.ronald.rader at gmail.com Sun Jul 6 23:55:38 2008 From: f.ronald.rader at gmail.com (F. Ronald Rader) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 22:55:38 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Home before dark In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5caeedb50807062255t52881915sf81dbf2b0da41e75@mail.gmail.com> glad you guys had a good trip thru our part of the state. many great back roads to get you from LA to Salinas with very little freeway driving. ron rader On 7/6/08, Editorgary at aol.com wrote: > > Thanks in part to suggestions by Ron Rader and others on this list George > Henke and I had a pleasant trip home from San Diego to the Bay area, with > the > only really unpleasant time being the stretch between LAX and Santa Monica > on the > 405, which lasted only about 15 minutes. From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Mon Jul 7 00:55:58 2008 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 23:55:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] (no subject) Message-ID: <3366ca7bd4aab7cc8a12b10a.20080706235558.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com> Now here's an unusual Nasty Boy FS. No financial interest, just cruising Ebay. http://tinyurl.com/5l7mkn Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Mon Jul 7 04:55:28 2008 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 20:55:28 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] How does Carpet Istallation turn into Ice Picks? In-Reply-To: <20080706.140032.3476.5.dwflagg@juno.com> References: <20080706.140032.3476.5.dwflagg@juno.com> Message-ID: G'day I like the idea of locking the ice pick behind a glass case and next to it is another glass case with an axe inside. Now where is the hammer to break the glass? Not long back I had to use a specially imported ice pick on our freezer. Not much natural ice that heeds picking here in Australia, except for one place, thankfully a long way from my home. It was interesting that when I opened the freezer door to use the aforesaid pick I could hear the sound of wind blowing. Then when the noise of the wind dropped a little someone murmured that they "were going out and may be some time!" After a while, no amount of picking could help. I cried out "Oates! Oates!" There was no response. Oh Well! It's time for ZZZZ time in this part of the world. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+p_cquinn=tpg.com.au at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+p_cquinn=tpg.com.au at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Douglas W Flagg Sent: Monday, 7 July 2008 4:01 AM To: tomfelts at windstream.net Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Carpet install question, almost half way done. Tom, Yes, ACTUALLY, we did at work a few years back when removing ice from the freezer section of the office frig. Unfortunately, it punctured one of the refrigerant lines, which, I believe, is why you now need a permit to use one!! :) Doug From sbyers at ec.rr.com Mon Jul 7 05:49:17 2008 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 7:49:17 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] On the Road Home from Conclave (Day 4) Message-ID: <12790371.769311215431358046.JavaMail.root@cdptpa-web11-z02> Hello, Healeyphiles - Our route on Sunday was from Bryce Canyon to Monticello, Utah, about 310 miles through some of the most monumental, awe-inspiring and rockitudinous landscape I have ever witnessed. An early morning tour through Bryce Canyon National Park started the day off right. The canyon has many viewpoints, but the best in my opinion is the first one nearest the main gate, at Sunrise Point. For 60 million years this area was the shore of an inland sea, which created very deep limestone deposits and sand dunes. Natural erosion and eons have sculpted the limestone and sandstone landscape into fantastic forms called "hoodoos". The view of the Bryce Amphitheater at Sunrise Point appears to show a city of huge red cathedrals and castles below. Anyone who hates stoplights but also interstate highways would love UT12 and UT24 since these are wonderful Healey roads through more incredible enormous rock mountains and formations. Much of this mileage is in or alongside National Parks, and consequently towns and even human habitations are far between. There was very little traffic on these roads as well, but enough for company. Apparently the economy in Germany is doing well because most of the tourists we came across were speaking German. This route takes you up to a little over 9000 feet, which is enough to cause the Healeys to start to run out of puff -- and both of our cars are equipped with the Lempert gears also, but what the gears give up in the mountains they more than make up for in the flatlands. At one point for a short distance, the road is basically a leveled-off mountain ridgetop with no guardrails and a long, long way down on each side, so pay attention here. Both cars continue to run very well, with only minor problems cropping up now and then. George got himself stuck in some deep sand or gravel for a while and I was ahead out of sight. But he got himself unstuck without my help. One minor annoyance for me was that the driver's door glass got itself out of the rear channel and jammed the rear guide against the outboard channel flange, necessitating disassembly of the door panels to get to it and free it. I found the lower channel attachment flange broken (again), so I'll be looking for another rear channel soon. Anyone reading this far who has one available, please let me know. The tops stayed down today, although we saw some interesting cloud formations in the distance on both sides of the road, with lightning in them and curtains of raining hanging down underneath them. We went through a few drops but we kept on Healeying because it's hard to appreciate the scenery with the tops up. Happy Healeying! Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Jul 7 08:10:50 2008 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 07:10:50 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 3.5 Rearend (was Re: On the Road Home from Conclave (Day 4)) In-Reply-To: <12790371.769311215431358046.JavaMail.root@cdptpa-web11-z02> References: <12790371.769311215431358046.JavaMail.root@cdptpa-web11-z02> Message-ID: <487223EA.3000405@comcast.net> Hi Steve, re: "This route takes you up to a little over 9000 feet, which is enough to cause the Healeys to start to run out of puff -- and both of our cars are equipped with the Lempert gears also, but what the gears give up in the mountains they more than make up for in the flatlands." With 6 forward speeds to choose from, I don't see how the taller ("Lempert") diffs "give up" anything. Yes, a grade you might take in 4th/OD with a 3.9 might have to be taken in 4th/straight with a 3.5, and so forth, but I don't really see that as a problem (4th top might be a little low, but you have a little extra torque to play with, whereas 4th/OD leaves little to spare, esp. at lower RPM). And, there's always 3rd/OD (which I often forget to use). For the twisties, 2nd becomes much more usable in the hills, whereas it's often too low--and 3rd too high--with a 3.9. The only "downside" I see with the taller rearend is that it takes a bit more finessing the clutch to get a smooth start in 1st, but that's not necessarily a bad thing (first gear is more realistic, overall). bs BJ8 Healeys wrote: > Hello, Healeyphiles - > > Our route on Sunday ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From 57healey at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 08:46:19 2008 From: 57healey at gmail.com (Patton Dickson) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 09:46:19 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Longbridge BN4 Armrest Installation Message-ID: <743b1e2f0807070746u375fdc4bwde5cc510595dda4c@mail.gmail.com> Which snaps/bases to I need to order for the armrest for my BN4. Also, can someone snap a picture of both sides of theirs so I can locate mine correctly Thanks Patton -- Patton Dickson - http://Austin-Healeys.com - Plano, TX 1957 Austin-Healey 100-Six "Built to run 'til the road wears out." From amalin at mac.com Mon Jul 7 08:46:47 2008 From: amalin at mac.com (Al Malin) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 10:46:47 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Torque for Hub Locknut and Securing Nuts Message-ID: What should they be torqued to? 1) Hub Locknut (the one big nut that holds the rear wheel bearing, etc) 2) Securing Nuts (the five nuts that hold the hub extension) Threads dry or lubricated? Al Malin Tricarb From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Jul 7 09:03:40 2008 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:03:40 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Torque for Hub Locknut and Securing Nuts Message-ID: <070720081503.1953.4872304C000B222B000007A1220702095304040A0B079F9C0D@comcast.net> Al, Good question(s). > What should they be torqued to? > > 1) Hub Locknut (the one big nut that holds the rear wheel bearing, etc) I've never seen an official torque value, but for most cars it's an obscene amount (i.e. >=150ft-lbs). IMO, you torque as tight as you possibly can, which won't be possible unless you have a suitable socket (I sprung for an "official" socket, which if I recall came from Hemphill's). Given that--and correct use of the locktabs--you shouldn't have any problems (the hub bearing is an interference fit and would probably stay on on its own, for a while at least). Since the locktabs are mild steel they will compress a bit, so the more tension to start the better. > 2) Securing Nuts (the five nuts that hold the hub extension) I believe the "official" amount is 60 ft-lbs. I have aways used 100ft-lbs, which is what's called for in most modern autos for lug nut tightness. Also, I do reuse the locking nuts, but I clean the threads and (re-)apply blue Locktite and have never had one loosen (Locktite has become a religion for me ;) bs -- *************************************************************** Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net '67 Austin-Healey 3000 '56 Austin-Healey 100M *************************************************************** -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Al Malin > What should they be torqued to? > > 1) Hub Locknut (the one big nut that holds the rear wheel bearing, etc) > > 2) Securing Nuts (the five nuts that hold the hub extension) > > Threads dry or lubricated? > > Al Malin > Tricarb > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as bspidell at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From richchrysler at quickclic.net Mon Jul 7 09:05:44 2008 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 11:05:44 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Longbridge BN4 Armrest Installation References: <743b1e2f0807070746u375fdc4bwde5cc510595dda4c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <004d01c8e042$ee1c13e0$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> Patton, Long or short version, (height of sides)? Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patton Dickson" <57healey at gmail.com> To: "Healey List" Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 10:46 AM Subject: [Healeys] Longbridge BN4 Armrest Installation > Which snaps/bases to I need to order for the armrest for my BN4. > Also, can someone snap a picture of both sides of theirs so I can > locate mine correctly > > Thanks > Patton > > -- > Patton Dickson - http://Austin-Healeys.com - Plano, TX > 1957 Austin-Healey 100-Six "Built to run 'til the road wears out." > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richchrysler at quickclic.net > > http://www.team.net/archive [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 6 Detail0006.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 6 Detail0021.jpg] From robert.w.johnson at charter.net Mon Jul 7 09:54:34 2008 From: robert.w.johnson at charter.net (Bob Johnson) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 11:54:34 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] O/D Click Message-ID: <005d01c8e049$c0acbe80$021919ac@valued28addca9> I think that I recall that there was a discussion that said that when I turn on the key and flip the o/d switch on the dash there should be a click from the throttle switch on the dash. I'm not getting that. Also did not get o/d to work on my trip from Denver to Dallas and back yesterday. Not on the whole 18 mile each way trip! (Did I mention that this is in NC?) Any suggestions on where to start? The o/d has been flaky for about a year now, I think that it is time to tackle this prob. Flaky in this case means that when everything is throughly warmed, driving along with o/d engaged, the car will intermittently go in and out of o/d... drops out on acceleration, back in when cruising. I think that this means something needs to be cleaned and/or adjusted. I'll try the archives for that. Bob Johnson BJ8 From robert.w.johnson at charter.net Mon Jul 7 10:03:29 2008 From: robert.w.johnson at charter.net (Bob Johnson) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 12:03:29 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] On the Road Home from Conclave (Day 4) References: <12790371.769311215431358046.JavaMail.root@cdptpa-web11-z02> Message-ID: <006701c8e04a$ff5680c0$021919ac@valued28addca9> Steve, I've got top agree with you about Bryce Canyon. Of all of the parks and vistas we saw when we were out there (years ago), nothing really compared to the beauty of Bryce. Bob Johnson BJ8 > Hello, Healeyphiles - > > Our route on Sunday was from Bryce Canyon to Monticello, Utah, about 310 > miles through some of the most monumental, awe-inspiring and rockitudinous > landscape I have ever witnessed. An early morning tour through Bryce > Canyon National Park started the day off right. The canyon has many > viewpoints, but the best in my opinion is the first one nearest the main > gate, at Sunrise Point. From kentmclean at comcast.net Mon Jul 7 10:08:56 2008 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (kentmclean at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:08:56 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Home before dark Message-ID: <070720081608.7812.48723F980004F6B300001E842216549976020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net> Editorgary wrote: > The older fellow in the garage said he had a 100, just like George's, > in his garage that he was going to restore when he got the time. He'd > had it since 1974. OMG, there's another one? My long lost twin? I have owned my '56 100 BN2 since April of '74. It's survived layoffs, a fix-it-up house, a marriage, 3 kids, and a divorce. But I still have it. And just like the garage owner, I'm going to restore it when I get the time. But first I need a house with a garage. I've been house hunting. :) -- Kent McLean 1956 100 BN2, awaiting restoration From prattri at msn.com Mon Jul 7 10:18:41 2008 From: prattri at msn.com (Richard Pratt) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 12:18:41 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Speedometer Message-ID: List, I am in need of a face and chrome ring for a BJ8 Speedometer. If I need to by a whole unit, working or not, that's OK. TIA Richard From Editorgary at aol.com Mon Jul 7 10:23:25 2008 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 12:23:25 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Gas Mileage from Conclave Message-ID: FWIW: Driving from Los Altos/San Jose to San Diego and back, I used 62 gals of gas, costing about $290 to go a nominal 1053 miles, for an indicated 15.6 mpg. HOWEVER, that mileage included both crusing speeds and stop-and-go traffic on highways and city streets. On the one stretch where we were able to cruise continuously for 199 miles I managed a nominal 18.95 mpg. I say "nominal" because when I checked my Garmin, I discovered that I had actually driven only 990 miles, so my odometer reads 106 percent higher than my actual mileage. So, adjusting for that I got an overal 16.7 mpg for the trip, with 20.1 mpg on the one and only straight 65 mph cruising stretch. BTW, I have an early 3000 engine, but it was rebuilt with a BJ8 cam, if that makes any difference, and based on plug examination, it runs a little rich. Cheers Gary ************** Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) From Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com Mon Jul 7 10:31:02 2008 From: Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 09:31:02 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Replacement Radiator Fan In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D904D29@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> Ron, A couple of months back, I made available to the list pictures of the plastic and steel fans showing the pitch. I removed the 6 blade steel and installed a 5 blade steel from a 60's Mustang. I was hoping to cut down on the noise of the 6 blade steel, but it did so slightly. Next opportunity, I will try the 5 blade plastic Welch fan. If not satisfied with that, I will go back to my old small diameter 5 blade steel fan which I was satisfied with. Ken Freese 65 BJ8 From robert.w.johnson at charter.net Mon Jul 7 10:33:55 2008 From: robert.w.johnson at charter.net (Bob Johnson) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 12:33:55 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Nipple Wanted References: <419246.47754.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <015101c8e04f$3ffaac10$021919ac@valued28addca9> I hate to give an actual "straight" answer to this question, but...When I needed this and had to improvise, I striped (or maybe I stripped) the insulation from a piece of electrical wire and forced it onto the two pieces. Has seemingly worked fine. Bob Johnson BJ8 > Anyone have a spare vacuum advance port (the small nipple that connects > from > the carburetor base to the rubber tube that goes to the copper line to the > dizzy vacuum advance) for an HS6 from a BJ7? Please contact me off list., From f.ronald.rader at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 11:11:08 2008 From: f.ronald.rader at gmail.com (F. Ronald Rader) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 10:11:08 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 3.5 Rearend Message-ID: <5caeedb50807071011k14f7ec02r210842e74af03c06@mail.gmail.com> Steve, this is my expeince as well. i have never run out of power on any hill climb in my BJ8 with factory OD and the 3.5 rear end. yes i may have to downshift into 4th (non OD) or even 3rd + od. but lock issues. amd BTW i am usually running at 75 or 80 on the freeways. ron rader 1965 BJ8 On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 7:10 AM, Bob Spidell wrote: > > Hi Steve, > > re: > "This route takes you up to a little over 9000 feet, which is enough to > cause the Healeys to start to run out of puff -- and both of our cars > are equipped with the Lempert gears also, but what the gears give up in > the mountains they more than make up for in the flatlands." > > > With 6 forward speeds to choose from, I don't see how the taller > ("Lempert") diffs "give up" anything. From jhomonek at mindspring.com Mon Jul 7 11:12:56 2008 From: jhomonek at mindspring.com (John H) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 13:12:56 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] DMH Award Message-ID: <25633446.1215450777047.JavaMail.root@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Those who went to Conclave: Who won the DMH Commemorative Award at Conclave? ....and congratulations to the Chapter that did!! TIA John Homonek President, Atlanta Chapter AHCA 1959 BN7 - 1960 AN5 - 1974 Jensen-Healey From blkbt7 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 7 11:28:31 2008 From: blkbt7 at yahoo.com (Bob Brown) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 10:28:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Gas Mileage from Conclave Message-ID: <196669.49864.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Chicago to San Diego (via RT66 some awful sections) rallying, gymkhana, etc and a marathon 200 mile interstate return in 3 day to Chicago, 4603 miles in a Tri-carb got a little over 16 mpg for the entire trip. This was a a cost of $1230 using 90-93 octane, at a range of $3.99 -$4.99 per gallon. FWIW: Driving from Los Altos/San Jose to San Diego and back, I used 62 gals of gas, costing about $290 to go a nominal 1053 miles, for an indicated 15.6 mpg. From Editorgary at aol.com Mon Jul 7 11:33:16 2008 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 13:33:16 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Gas Mileage from Conclave Message-ID: In a message dated 7/7/08 10:28:42 AM, blkbt7 at yahoo.com writes: > got a little over 16 mpg for the entire trip. > Still beats trailering. When I tow my MGA race car in an enclosed trailer behind my Ford Explorer, I get 10 mpg. On the other hand, when I'm on the track with the MGA, I get 7 mpg. Cheers Gary ************** Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) From blkbt7 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 7 11:34:17 2008 From: blkbt7 at yahoo.com (Bob Brown) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 10:34:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] 3.5 Rearend Message-ID: <554183.9165.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Ron, Bob, I think Steve was commenting regarding my message from last night we I mentioned a little problem with the 3.55 on the fisrt high pass at Vail. Not properly anticipating my approach I lost power due to being in the wrong gear. At the Eisenhower Pass (higher than Vail) no problem as I did get the right gear combination. I dropped out of 4th OD, downshifted ionto 3rd and then went to 3rd OD, had plenty of power and no struggle by the engine. It is all in doing it right to start, once the car slows it can be an inconvience getting back to speed. Bob ----- Original Message ---- From: F. Ronald Rader f.ronald.rader at gmail.com Steve, this is my expeince as well. i have never run out of power on any hill climb in my BJ8 with factory OD and the 3.5 rear end. yes i may have to downshift into 4th (non OD) or even 3rd + od. but lock issues. amd BTW i am usually running at 75 or 80 on the freeways. ron rader 1965 BJ8 On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 7:10 AM, Bob Spidell wrote: > > Hi Steve, > > re: > "This route takes you up to a little over 9000 feet, which is enough to > cause the Healeys to start to run out of puff -- and both of our cars > are equipped with the Lempert gears also, but what the gears give up in > the mountains they more than make up for in the flatlands." > > > With 6 forward speeds to choose from, I don't see how the taller > ("Lempert") diffs "give up" anything. From robert.w.johnson at charter.net Mon Jul 7 11:37:38 2008 From: robert.w.johnson at charter.net (Bob Johnson) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 13:37:38 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] O/D Click Part 2 Message-ID: <017a01c8e058$26ba8140$021919ac@valued28addca9> Solution to problem 1, throttle switch not activating... Note to self, Bob, make sure that the dash switch wiring is connected FIRST. Then go to next step. ):^( Bob Jophnson BJ8 From blkbt7 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 7 11:38:22 2008 From: blkbt7 at yahoo.com (Bob Brown) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 10:38:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] DMH Award Message-ID: <303184.47558.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> John, I believe it went to the Asociation of Southern California. The CA clubs were the best represented, followed by the Oregon & Washington clubs and possibly the Roadrunner club(NM). Any further away from San Diego the clubs represented didn't have a chance. Bob (Midwest AHC) ----- Original Message ---- From: John H To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 12:12:56 PM Subject: [Healeys] DMH Award Those who went to Conclave: Who won the DMH Commemorative Award at Conclave? ....and congratulations to the Chapter that did!! TIA John Homonek President, Atlanta Chapter AHCA 1959 BN7 - 1960 AN5 - 1974 Jensen-Healey _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as blkbt7 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive From maxandreb1 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 7 11:39:14 2008 From: maxandreb1 at yahoo.com (Maurice Maxwell) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 10:39:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] RE; OD click Message-ID: <652732.67954.qm@web58215.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Bob, It sounds like the pressure in the OD unit is low. This can be checked in the car. I suggest that you go to the web site: http://www.team.net/www/healey/tech/big_hly/od/delborder_od.html this web site gives a very good how to tackle OD problems. This is the site that helped me with my od problems. You can get a pressure gauge from Dun-Rite Tool Company, Phone: (940)-433-8276 web site: http://www.dunritetool.com/index.html. Use the web to see catalog then order by phone. Best of luck with the OD. Max 1961 BT7 From blkbt7 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 7 11:40:20 2008 From: blkbt7 at yahoo.com (Bob Brown) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 10:40:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] DMH Award Message-ID: <492078.13816.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> John, I believe it went to the Asociation of Southern California. The CA clubs were the best represented, followed by the Oregon & Washington clubs and possibly the Roadrunner club(NM). Any further away from San Diego the clubs represented didn't have a chance. Bob (Midwest AHC) ----- Original Message ---- From: John H To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 12:12:56 PM Subject: [Healeys] DMH Award Those who went to Conclave: Who won the DMH Commemorative Award at Conclave? ....and congratulations to the Chapter that did!! TIA John Homonek From ricksnover at earthlink.net Mon Jul 7 11:54:41 2008 From: ricksnover at earthlink.net (Rick Snover) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 10:54:41 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] DMH Award In-Reply-To: <303184.47558.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <303184.47558.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Which one is the DMH Award? The Roadrunner Club from NM won an award for highest percentage participation (3 of their 5 members were there, or something like that), and the AH Association of SoCal won one for sheer numbers. At 10:38 AM 7/7/2008, Bob Brown wrote: >I believe it went to the Asociation of Southern California. The CA >clubs were the best represented, followed by the Oregon & Washington >clubs and possibly the Roadrunner club(NM). Any further away from >San Diego the clubs represented didn't have a chance. >----- Original Message ---- >From: John H >To: healeys at autox.team.net >Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 12:12:56 PM >Subject: [Healeys] DMH Award > >Those who went to Conclave: >Who won the DMH Commemorative Award at Conclave? >....and >congratulations to the Chapter that did!! From msalter at precisionsportscar.com Mon Jul 7 12:07:34 2008 From: msalter at precisionsportscar.com (Michael Salter) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 14:07:34 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] 3.5 Rearend (was Re: On the Road Home from Conclave (Day 4)) In-Reply-To: <487223EA.3000405@comcast.net> References: <12790371.769311215431358046.JavaMail.root@cdptpa-web11-z02> <487223EA.3000405@comcast.net> Message-ID: <00f001c8e05c$5562cad0$00286070$@com> This subject does however lead me to comment on one aspect of the taller rear gearing that we have not discussed and I would appreciate comments on. Knowing that gearboxes are considerably more expensive to replace than clutches I always instructed my Healey customers to develop the habit of starting out from a stop on level surfaces in 2nd gear. Once mastered this is actually an easier way to drive a Big Healey and as mentioned is much easier on the gearbox. However I have not tried this driving style on a car fitted with a 3.54 : 1 diff and am interested to know if others have. Michael Salter -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Spidell Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 10:11 AM Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] 3.5 Rearend (was Re: On the Road Home from Conclave (Day 4)) Hi Steve, re: "This route takes you up to a little over 9000 feet, which is enough to cause the Healeys to start to run out of puff -- and both of our cars are equipped with the Lempert gears also, but what the gears give up in the mountains they more than make up for in the flatlands." With 6 forward speeds to choose from, I don't see how the taller ("Lempert") diffs "give up" anything. Yes, a grade you might take in 4th/OD with a 3.9 might have to be taken in 4th/straight with a 3.5, and so forth, but I don't really see that as a problem (4th top might be a little low, but you have a little extra torque to play with, whereas 4th/OD leaves little to spare, esp. at lower RPM). And, there's always 3rd/OD (which I often forget to use). For the twisties, 2nd becomes much more usable in the hills, whereas it's often too low--and 3rd too high--with a 3.9. The only "downside" I see with the taller rearend is that it takes a bit more finessing the clutch to get a smooth start in 1st, but that's not necessarily a bad thing (first gear is more realistic, overall). bs BJ8 Healeys wrote: > Hello, Healeyphiles - > > Our route on Sunday ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as msalter at precisionsportscar.com http://www.team.net/archive From blkbt7 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 7 12:24:48 2008 From: blkbt7 at yahoo.com (Bob Brown) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 11:24:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] DMH Award Message-ID: <825141.35008.qm@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> >Which one is the DMH Award? The Roadrunner Club from NM won an award for highest percentage participation (3 of their 5 members were there, or something like that), and the AH Association of SoCal won one for sheer numbers. The DMH Award recognizes the club with the highest level of participation at a Conclave. Points are awarded for every event that a club member participates, gynmkhana, rally, funkhana, RC races, Arts & Crafts, etc. Additioanl points are awarded for entries that recive awards (1st, 2nd, etc). It usually takes a larger club with active members (at Conclave) to win this beautiful traveling trophy. The award for the club with the highest percentage iof members present at Conclave is usually awarded to a smaller club that can get a high percentage with fewer numbers. This award is named the Edie Anderson Award for the clubs long time Membership VP. Bobv From jholekamp at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 7 12:37:38 2008 From: jholekamp at sbcglobal.net (Jay Holekamp) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 11:37:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive Oil Pressure Gauge Message-ID: <908185.37091.qm@web80408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Bob, Here's another possibility for acquiring an overdrive oil pressure gauge: http://tinyurl.com/505s brgds, Jay From f.ronald.rader at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 12:38:35 2008 From: f.ronald.rader at gmail.com (F. Ronald Rader) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 11:38:35 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 3.5 Rearend (was Re: On the Road Home from Conclave (Day 4)) In-Reply-To: <00f001c8e05c$5562cad0$00286070$@com> References: <12790371.769311215431358046.JavaMail.root@cdptpa-web11-z02> <487223EA.3000405@comcast.net> <00f001c8e05c$5562cad0$00286070$@com> Message-ID: <5caeedb50807071138s761491d9s6012d2a018f4dae9@mail.gmail.com> when i first got my BJ8 I had to start in 3rd. it will do it. i only use first if i am at a complete dead stop. at one mile an hour second is just fine with the 3.55 and an overdrive tranny. ron rader On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 11:07 AM, Michael Salter wrote: > This subject does however lead me to comment on one aspect of the taller > rear gearing that we have not discussed and I would appreciate comments on. > However I have not tried this driving style on a car fitted with a 3.54 : 1 > diff and am interested to know if others have. > > Michael Salter From ricksnover at earthlink.net Mon Jul 7 12:39:49 2008 From: ricksnover at earthlink.net (Rick Snover) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 11:39:49 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] DMH Award In-Reply-To: <825141.35008.qm@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <825141.35008.qm@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: OK, sounds like the SoCal Association got the DMH Award (honkin' big, heavy trophy that nobody wants to have to fly with, right?) and the Roadrunners got the other. At 11:24 AM 7/7/2008, Bob Brown wrote: >>Which one is the DMH Award? The Roadrunner Club from NM won an >>award for highest percentage participation (3 of their 5 members >>were there, or something like that), and the AH Association of >>SoCal won one for sheer numbers. > >The DMH Award recognizes the club with the highest level >of participation at a Conclave. Points are awarded for every event >that a club member participates, gynmkhana, rally, funkhana, RC >races, Arts & Crafts, etc. Additioanl points are awarded for entries >that recive awards (1st, 2nd, etc). It usually takes a larger club >with active members (at Conclave) to win this beautiful traveling trophy. > >The award for the club with the highest percentage iof members >present at Conclave is usually awarded to a smaller club that can >get a high percentage with fewer numbers. This award is named the >Edie Anderson Award for the clubs long time Membership VP. From tomfelts at windstream.net Mon Jul 7 12:40:09 2008 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (tomfelts at windstream.net) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 14:40:09 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Replacement Radiator Fan Message-ID: <20080707184009.XJZH29060.ispmxmta06-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> I hear all this talk about the noise the 6 bladed steel blade makes. I have such, and have yet to hear the "noise". Guess I'm lucky. tom > > From: "Freese, Ken" > Date: 2008/07/07 Mon PM 12:31:02 EDT > To: "Ron Fine" , > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Replacement Radiator Fan > > Ron, > A couple of months back, I made available to the list pictures of the > plastic and steel fans showing the pitch. I removed the 6 blade steel > and installed a 5 blade steel from a 60's Mustang. I was hoping to cut > down on the noise of the 6 blade steel, but it did so slightly. Next > opportunity, I will try the 5 blade plastic Welch fan. If not satisfied > with that, I will go back to my old small diameter 5 blade steel fan > which I was satisfied with. > Ken Freese > 65 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Jul 7 12:52:31 2008 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:52:31 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Replacement Radiator Fan Message-ID: <070720081852.9375.487265EF0007D4940000249F220075043804040A0B079F9C0D@comcast.net> Or you're deaf. ;) bs -- *************************************************************** Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net '67 Austin-Healey 3000 '56 Austin-Healey 100M *************************************************************** -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: > I hear all this talk about the noise the 6 bladed steel blade makes. I have > such, and have yet to hear the "noise". Guess I'm lucky. > > tom > > > > From: "Freese, Ken" > > Date: 2008/07/07 Mon PM 12:31:02 EDT > > To: "Ron Fine" , > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Replacement Radiator Fan > > > > Ron, > > A couple of months back, I made available to the list pictures of the > > plastic and steel fans showing the pitch. I removed the 6 blade steel > > and installed a 5 blade steel from a 60's Mustang. I was hoping to cut > > down on the noise of the 6 blade steel, but it did so slightly. Next > > opportunity, I will try the 5 blade plastic Welch fan. If not satisfied > > with that, I will go back to my old small diameter 5 blade steel fan > > which I was satisfied with. > > Ken Freese > > 65 BJ8 From ronfineesq at earthlink.net Mon Jul 7 12:53:50 2008 From: ronfineesq at earthlink.net (Ronald A. Fine) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 11:53:50 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Healeys] 3.5 Rearend (was Re: On the Road Home from Conclave (Day 4)) Message-ID: <1567528.1215456831060.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> In my experience, It doesn't really work to try to start in 2nd. gear with the 3.5 rearend installed. It is definitely different from the 3.9 rearend in that regard. Ron > >This subject does however lead me to comment on one aspect of the taller >rear gearing that we have not discussed and I would appreciate comments on. >Knowing that gearboxes are considerably more expensive to replace than >clutches I always instructed my Healey customers to develop the habit of >starting out from a stop on level surfaces in 2nd gear. Once mastered this >is actually an easier way to drive a Big Healey and as mentioned is much >easier on the gearbox. >However I have not tried this driving style on a car fitted with a 3.54 : 1 >diff and am interested to know if others have. > >Michael Salter From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Jul 7 13:00:26 2008 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:00:26 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] 3.5 Rearend (was Re: On the Road Home from Conclave (Day 4)) Message-ID: <070720081900.21129.487267CA000BA93600005289220075043804040A0B079F9C0D@comcast.net> Same for me (though, at 1-2mph I'll usually drop it into first--slides right in). I get a little bit of judder in first from a standing start if I'm sloppy on the clutch and throttle. I attribute this more to the mechanical throttle linkage--mine might not be perfect--than the taller rearend. If I really pay attention--and finesse the throttle and slip the clutch just a little--I can get a smooth start. Overall, the 3.54 rearend is essential if you do a lot of highway cruising; probably not as useful if you only drive city streets and gymkhanas (I'm even secretly lusting after a 28% O/D). bs -- *************************************************************** Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net '67 Austin-Healey 3000 '56 Austin-Healey 100M *************************************************************** -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "F. Ronald Rader" > when i first got my BJ8 I had to start in 3rd. it will do it. > i only use first if i am at a complete dead stop. at one mile an hour > second is just fine with the 3.55 and an overdrive tranny. > ron rader > > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 11:07 AM, Michael Salter > wrote: > > This subject does however lead me to comment on one aspect of the taller > > rear gearing that we have not discussed and I would appreciate comments on. > > > However I have not tried this driving style on a car fitted with a 3.54 : 1 > > diff and am interested to know if others have. > > > > Michael Salter From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Jul 7 13:14:08 2008 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:14:08 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Gas Mileage from Conclave Message-ID: <070720081914.10478.48726B00000173BE000028EE220075043804040A0B079F9C0D@comcast.net> Hi Gary, I've been doing a lot of "self-help" on my speedometer lately, so I've learned quite a bit about it. The linkage between the cable and the odomoter and trip meter is hard gearing so it's not likely your odometer is off (if a gear was skipping you'd read low). If you have lower profile tires than stock--who doesn't ;)--your odometer would read high (the difference between a 26" dia. tire and a 25" dia. tire would cause a 4% discrepancy, for instance). Also, GPS indicates linear distance between pt. A and pt. B, and may not account for small turns between two points. However, I believe the newer GPSes sample quite often so this may not be significant. bs -- *************************************************************** Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net '67 Austin-Healey 3000 '56 Austin-Healey 100M *************************************************************** -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Editorgary at aol.com > FWIW: Driving from Los Altos/San Jose to San Diego and back, I used 62 gals > of gas, costing about $290 to go a nominal 1053 miles, for an indicated 15.6 > mpg. > HOWEVER, that mileage included both crusing speeds and stop-and-go traffic on > highways and city streets. On the one stretch where we were able to cruise > continuously for 199 miles I managed a nominal 18.95 mpg. > I say "nominal" because when I checked my Garmin, I discovered that I had > actually driven only 990 miles, so my odometer reads 106 percent higher than my > actual mileage. So, adjusting for that I got an overal 16.7 mpg for the trip, > with 20.1 mpg on the one and only straight 65 mph cruising stretch. > BTW, I have an early 3000 engine, but it was rebuilt with a BJ8 cam, if that > makes any difference, and based on plug examination, it runs a little rich. > Cheers > Gary From jhomonek at mindspring.com Mon Jul 7 13:36:54 2008 From: jhomonek at mindspring.com (John H) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 15:36:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] 3.5 Rearend (was Re: On the Road Home from Conclave (Day 4)) Message-ID: <25481239.1215459414128.JavaMail.root@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Bob, I just recently installed a newly rebuilt sideshift trans and 28% out of extra parts I had laying around. I haven't been on a long trip yet to log mileage benefits but it really lowers the RPMs when kicked in. The real test will come at SE Classic in September....Atlanta to Lynchburg, TN. Lower RPMs means lower fuel consumption. At $4.39 per gallon these days, it should pay off rather quickly. By the way, it is matched with the 3.54 rearend too. First gear starts on inclines only and second gear on level or downhill starts. John Homonek Atlanta AHCA 1959 BN7 - 1960 AN5 - 1974 Jensen-Healey -----Original Message----- >From: Bob Spidell >Sent: Jul 7, 2008 3:00 PM >To: "F. Ronald Rader" , healeys at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3.5 Rearend (was Re: On the Road Home from Conclave (Day 4)) > >Same for me (though, at 1-2mph I'll usually drop it into first--slides right in). > >I get a little bit of judder in first from a standing start if I'm sloppy on the clutch and throttle. I attribute this more to the mechanical throttle linkage--mine might not be perfect--than the taller rearend. If I really pay attention--and finesse the throttle and slip the clutch just a little--I can get a smooth start. > >Overall, the 3.54 rearend is essential if you do a lot of highway cruising; probably not as useful if you only drive city streets and gymkhanas (I'm even secretly lusting after a 28% O/D). > >bs > >-- >*************************************************************** >Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net >'67 Austin-Healey 3000 '56 Austin-Healey 100M >*************************************************************** > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- >From: "F. Ronald Rader" >> when i first got my BJ8 I had to start in 3rd. it will do it. >> i only use first if i am at a complete dead stop. at one mile an hour >> second is just fine with the 3.55 and an overdrive tranny. >> ron rader >> >> On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 11:07 AM, Michael Salter >> wrote: >> > This subject does however lead me to comment on one aspect of the taller >> > rear gearing that we have not discussed and I would appreciate comments on. >> >> > However I have not tried this driving style on a car fitted with a 3.54 : 1 >> > diff and am interested to know if others have. >> > >> > Michael Salter >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >Healeys at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > >You are subscribed as jhomonek at mindspring.com > >http://www.team.net/archive From jculphealey at yahoo.com Mon Jul 7 14:01:56 2008 From: jculphealey at yahoo.com (Jim Culp) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 13:01:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Anyone else have a non-overdrive tranny on their BJ8? Message-ID: <113632.80590.qm@web46315.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> My semi- odd '67 BJ8 came with non-adjustable steering wheel and a four speed non-overdrive transmission. I'm curious about a couple of things: 1. Why were so few cars equipped with the four speed non o/d? 2. I wonder why the original owner saw fit to order the car that way- any advantages over the o/d version Thanks all. Jim From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Jul 7 14:17:22 2008 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 20:17:22 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] 3.5 Rearend (was Re: On the Road Home from Conclave (Day 4)) Message-ID: <070720082017.11431.487279D20000053D00002CA7220075043804040A0B079F9C0D@comcast.net> Hi John, re: " Lower RPMs means lower > fuel consumption. At $4.39 per gallon these days, it should pay off rather > quickly." Don't expect miracles; i.e. a linear reduction in fuel usage due to the taller gearing. My MPG didn't increase much when I installed the 3.54 rearend (maybe 1mpg highway at 65mph). As it was explained to me--and this makes sense--you'll need the same amount of power to push a car at 60mph regardless of the gearing (you'll need more torque for the taller gears/lower RPM, hence horsepower required will be the same). That is, you'll have the throttle open farther--and thus use more air and fuel--to do 60 with a 3.5 rearend and 28% O/D than with a 3.9 rearend and 22% O/D, but RPM will be reduced (the reduction in engine noise and vibration at highway speed is worth the price of admission, IMO). Also, I think it's easier to hold a more constant speed with the taller gears, which might account for the small improvement I saw (sorta like a poor man's "cruise control"). This is consistent with aircraft engines with constant-speed propellers--there's literally an infinite combination of prop speeds and throttle settings (in manifold pressure expressed in inches of mercury) that can produce any particular power setting (e.g. 55, 65 or 75% power), although with turbosupercharged engines running "oversquare"--e.g. 50 inches of manifold pressure at 2,100RPM--can markedly increase range (as Charles Lindbergh proved to the AAF in the Pacific in WWII). But, this is largely achieved with the volumetric efficiencies achieved with supercharging (effectively raising the compression ratio; which will increase "mileage"). bs -- *************************************************************** Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net '67 Austin-Healey 3000 '56 Austin-Healey 100M *************************************************************** -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: John H > Bob, > > I just recently installed a newly rebuilt sideshift trans and 28% out of extra > parts I had laying around. I haven't been on a long trip yet to log mileage > benefits but it really lowers the RPMs when kicked in. The real test will come > at SE Classic in September....Atlanta to Lynchburg, TN. Lower RPMs means lower > fuel consumption. At $4.39 per gallon these days, it should pay off rather > quickly. > > By the way, it is matched with the 3.54 rearend too. First gear starts on > inclines only and second gear on level or downhill starts. > > John Homonek > Atlanta AHCA > 1959 BN7 - 1960 AN5 - 1974 Jensen-Healey From Editorgary at aol.com Mon Jul 7 14:34:59 2008 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 16:34:59 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Speeds, distances, and odometers. Message-ID: In a message dated 7/7/08 1:18:31 PM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > > The linkage between the cable and the odomoter and trip meter is hard > gearing so it's not likely your odometer is off (if a gear was skipping you'd read > low). If you have lower profile tires than stock--who doesn't ;)--your > odometer would read high (the difference between a 26" dia. tire and a 25" dia. > tire would cause a 4% discrepancy, for instance). > > Also, GPS indicates linear distance between pt. A and pt. B, and may not > account for small turns between two points. However, I believe the newer GPSes > sample quite often so this may not be significant. > I do have slightly smaller-diameter tires (running Kelly Metric 165x15s) and your four percent estimate isn't far off from what I calculated. I talked to Garmin about their calculations and the journey distance that's shown on the summary page is in fact the actual highway miles covered -- it's calculated by using the time and speed information. (There are some distances on the garmin that are point-to-point -- such as the distance to a gas station or restaurant -- but the journey distance is actual miles driven.) It's also interesting to compare the actual speed as shown on the GPS with the speed indicated on the speedometer. For example, I normally cruise with the needle midway between the 60 and the 80 marks on the speedometer, which the Garmin tells me is actually 65 mph, and occasionally go up to an indicated 80 mph when I'm in the typical high-speed urban freeway traffic (like I5 passing Anaheim), which the Garmin says is about 72 mph. Incidentally, FWIW on the entire trip, up hill and down, my temp never read over 200, and generally was reading between 170 and 190 degrees. On this trip I was running with bottled water and water wetter in the radiator, with no antifreeze, and I have a "Texas Kooler" plastic fan on the engine. Cheers Gary ************** Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) From 57healey at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 14:38:16 2008 From: 57healey at gmail.com (Patton Dickson) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 15:38:16 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Motor Trend - The best fiction piece about driving, ever Message-ID: <743b1e2f0807071338o378c75d4u4d992797419c40c@mail.gmail.com> This sounds like a good Healey story.... http://tinyurl.com/5faxoc Patton -- Patton Dickson - http://Austin-Healeys.com - Plano, TX 1957 Austin-Healey 100-Six "Built to run 'til the road wears out." From 57healey at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 14:40:46 2008 From: 57healey at gmail.com (Patton Dickson) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 15:40:46 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Motor Trend - The best fiction piece about driving, ever In-Reply-To: <743b1e2f0807071338o378c75d4u4d992797419c40c@mail.gmail.com> References: <743b1e2f0807071338o378c75d4u4d992797419c40c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <743b1e2f0807071340h7492c6dfl303f5023db78fcf2@mail.gmail.com> I just found it as a free pdf download. It's real short http://www.ccdmd.qc.ca/media/pdf/en/EEE_Powder.pdf Patton On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Patton Dickson <57healey at gmail.com> wrote: > This sounds like a good Healey story.... > > http://tinyurl.com/5faxoc > > Patton > > -- > Patton Dickson - http://Austin-Healeys.com - Plano, TX > 1957 Austin-Healey 100-Six "Built to run 'til the road wears out." > -- Patton Dickson - http://Austin-Healeys.com - Plano, TX 1957 Austin-Healey 100-Six "Built to run 'til the road wears out." From mike.vasquez at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 14:46:38 2008 From: mike.vasquez at gmail.com (Mike Vasquez) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 13:46:38 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Found healey for sale - phx craigslist - dealer Message-ID: <28f529ba0807071346o438ec961u1ebe73bfd6239619@mail.gmail.com> http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/car/745844951.html Thought I'd pass it along in case someone's in the market for one. This is way over my budget. I have no affiliation at all with the mentioned company. It's about 29-58x my budget for a project. :-) Mike From ahbn6 at optonline.net Mon Jul 7 14:52:07 2008 From: ahbn6 at optonline.net (John Sims) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:52:07 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Speeds, distances, and odometers. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <015b01c8e073$5223fc10$f66bf430$@net> Personal aside: Aren't we getting a little technical and/or anal about MPG and speed. There are countless permutations involved here guys. Tranny ratios Gear Box selections Tire sizes, Fuels used Additives to the gas Gear Box Lubes Tranny oil Leering at the passenger and slowing down as the eye signals become stronger (opposite sex, I hope unless it has been a very, very, very long trip) Freeway versus two lane highway Number of stop lights One horse or two horse towns gone through with artificially low speed zones (AKA speed traps or revenue enhancers for the town) Altitude How recent was the build of the tranny, OD, Speedo, odometer, at idle while looking at a deer on the road, yadda, yadda, yadda Ad nauseum which is a better way of saying yadda, yadda, yadda I loved reading the "blogs" that everyone was kind enough to share on the list but . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Editorgary at aol.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 4:35 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Speeds, distances, and odometers. In a message dated 7/7/08 1:18:31 PM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > > The linkage between the cable and the odomoter and trip meter is hard > gearing so it's not likely your odometer is off (if a gear was skipping you'd read > low). If you have lower profile tires than stock--who doesn't ;)--your > odometer would read high (the difference between a 26" dia. tire and a 25" dia. > tire would cause a 4% discrepancy, for instance). > > Also, GPS indicates linear distance between pt. A and pt. B, and may not > account for small turns between two points. However, I believe the newer GPSes > sample quite often so this may not be significant. From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Jul 7 14:59:49 2008 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 20:59:49 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Speeds, distances, and odometers. Message-ID: <070720082059.16651.487283C5000A2FE30000410B220702157304040A0B079F9C0D@comcast.net> Hi Gary, re: "For example, I normally cruise with > the > needle midway between the 60 and the 80 marks on the speedometer, which the > Garmin tells me is actually 65 mph, and occasionally go up to an indicated 80 > mph when I'm in the typical high-speed urban freeway traffic (like I5 passing > Anaheim), which the Garmin says is about 72 mph." Although it's "safer"--from a legal standpoint--to be traveling at less speed than indicated you can "calibrate" your speedometer by removing the needle and repositioning it on the spindle. BTW, the "peg" the needle rests on retracts to allow the needle to be positioned below zero to start. re: "... was running with bottled water ... in the radiator" Must be the SoCal influence (hope it was at least Evian, not any of that nasty Costco stuff ;). bs -- *************************************************************** Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net '67 Austin-Healey 3000 '56 Austin-Healey 100M *************************************************************** -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Editorgary at aol.com > I do have slightly smaller-diameter tires (running Kelly Metric 165x15s) and > your four percent estimate isn't far off from what I calculated. > I talked to Garmin about their calculations and the journey distance that's > shown on the summary page is in fact the actual highway miles covered -- it's > calculated by using the time and speed information. (There are some distances > on the garmin that are point-to-point -- such as the distance to a gas station > or restaurant -- but the journey distance is actual miles driven.) > It's also interesting to compare the actual speed as shown on the GPS with > the speed indicated on the speedometer. For example, I normally cruise with > the > needle midway between the 60 and the 80 marks on the speedometer, which the > Garmin tells me is actually 65 mph, and occasionally go up to an indicated 80 > mph when I'm in the typical high-speed urban freeway traffic (like I5 passing > Anaheim), which the Garmin says is about 72 mph. > > Incidentally, FWIW on the entire trip, up hill and down, my temp never read > over 200, and generally was reading between 170 and 190 degrees. On this trip > I > was running with bottled water and water wetter in the radiator, with no > antifreeze, and I have a "Texas Kooler" plastic fan on the engine. > > Cheers > Gary From Editorgary at aol.com Mon Jul 7 15:00:42 2008 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 17:00:42 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Speeds, distances, and odometers. Message-ID: John Sims writes: Aren't we getting a little technical and/or anal about MPG and speed. There are countless permutations involved here guys. Sorry if the topic got a little too technical, but folks who were out on the road last week and had their own personal experiences were interested in the experiences of other folks on the road. But, as you note, one can't simply say what mileage one got without noting what engine and tranny one has, and the conditions under which one was driving. But I think our job here is done: Healeys generally get between 16 and 20 mpg, and anything outside that range is an issue for concern or a damned lie. Cheers Gary ************** Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) From tomfelts at windstream.net Mon Jul 7 15:01:12 2008 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (tomfelts at windstream.net) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 17:01:12 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Speeds, distances, and odometers. Message-ID: <20080707210112.EMVH22346.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> I'd get a lot anal if I was only getting 14 mpg on the road.:):):):):):):) > > From: John Sims > Date: 2008/07/07 Mon PM 04:52:07 EDT > To: Editorgary at aol.com, healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Speeds, distances, and odometers. > > Personal aside: > > Aren't we getting a little technical and/or anal about MPG and speed. > > There are countless permutations involved here guys. > > Tranny ratios > Gear Box selections > Tire sizes, > Fuels used > Additives to the gas > Gear Box Lubes > Tranny oil > Leering at the passenger and slowing down as the eye signals become stronger > (opposite sex, I hope unless it has been a very, very, very long trip) > Freeway versus two lane highway > Number of stop lights > One horse or two horse towns gone through with artificially low speed zones > (AKA speed traps or revenue enhancers for the town) > Altitude > How recent was the build of the tranny, OD, Speedo, odometer, at idle while > looking at a deer on the road, yadda, yadda, yadda > > Ad nauseum which is a better way of saying yadda, yadda, yadda > > I loved reading the "blogs" that everyone was kind enough to share on the > list but . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . > > John Sims, BN6 > Aberdeen, NJ > > www.healey6.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > Editorgary at aol.com > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 4:35 PM > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Speeds, distances, and odometers. > > In a message dated 7/7/08 1:18:31 PM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > > > > > > The linkage between the cable and the odomoter and trip meter is hard > > gearing so it's not likely your odometer is off (if a gear was skipping > you'd read > > low). If you have lower profile tires than stock--who doesn't ;)--your > > odometer would read high (the difference between a 26" dia. tire and a 25" > dia. > > tire would cause a 4% discrepancy, for instance). > > > > Also, GPS indicates linear distance between pt. A and pt. B, and may not > > account for small turns between two points. However, I believe the newer > GPSes > > sample quite often so this may not be significant. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Mon Jul 7 15:02:27 2008 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Leonard Hartnett) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 14:02:27 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Replacement Radiator Fan In-Reply-To: <070720081852.9375.487265EF0007D4940000249F220075043804040A0B079F9C0D@comcast.net> References: <070720081852.9375.487265EF0007D4940000249F220075043804040A0B079F9C0D@comcast.net> Message-ID: Tom: Assuming you have normal hearing, if you want to hear how noisy your fan is, take it off and run without it for a while. I was able to do this while stationed in England (someone told me I could gain as much as 10 HP by removing it). As long as I was able to attain 40 MPH, enough cool air passed through the radiator to avoid overheating even without a fan installed. that's not possible here in California in the Sacramento Valley area, of course. I eventually installed a Hayden 7 bladed (metal) flex fan. It is noisy but it pulls gobs of air. Bob may have been joking but, from experience, have you had your hearing tested lately? I didn't realize how many sounds I was missing until I got my hearing aids. (The Other) Len Vacaville, California, USA 1967 3000 MKIII, HBJ8L39031 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Spidell" To: ; "Freese, Ken" ; "Ron Fine" ; Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Replacement Radiator Fan > Or you're deaf. > > ;) > > bs > > -- > *************************************************************** > Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net > '67 Austin-Healey 3000 '56 Austin-Healey 100M > *************************************************************** > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: >> I hear all this talk about the noise the 6 bladed steel blade makes. I >> have >> such, and have yet to hear the "noise". Guess I'm lucky. >> >> tom From Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com Mon Jul 7 15:05:30 2008 From: Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 14:05:30 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Finding TDC In-Reply-To: References: <856175.73397.qm@web83307.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D904D3D@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> Another cool technique is to replace the center electrode/porcelain with a tube and connect the tube with rubber hose to a jar of water or other liquid. Ken Freese -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+ken.freese=aerojet.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+ken.freese=aerojet.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Alan Seigrist Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 8:07 PM To: sjnnock at sbcglobal.net Cc: healey List Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN1/BN2 Timing Norman - Thanks, you are a gem. Best Regards, Alan PS. Yes I have your tech talk book and I should have looked at it first! '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Norman Nock wrote: > Pre 1954 British cars did not mark a T.D.C mark > > DISCONNECT BATTERY > > to find a T.D.C remove all plugs and turn engine by the fan blades > till you see # 1 piston through the plug hole , knock the center > out of a spark plug and it's tip , screw it in the plug hole then with > a screw driver touching the top of the piston , move engine back and > forward till you find it's highest point . thats T.D.C mark front > pulley > > OR > ... > USE a vacuum gauge at full manifold vacuum to find T.D.C get a pre > 1965 Automotive Encyclopedia it would tell you how it's done > > OR > set ign.points at .012" set engine at T.D.C tighten dist. this will > give a basic timing reset set points to .014" to .016" then road test > and adjust as needed > > Norman Nock > > PS do you have my book Tech Talk Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as ken.freese at aerojet.com http://www.team.net/archive From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Jul 7 15:06:20 2008 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:06:20 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Found healey for sale - phx craigslist - dealer Message-ID: <070720082106.29936.4872854C0003B3C1000074F0220702157304040A0B079F9C0D@comcast.net> Wow, this car has "a new battery that has been converted to negative ground." That's a tough one! bs (yes, I have too much time on my hands today) -- *************************************************************** Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net '67 Austin-Healey 3000 '56 Austin-Healey 100M *************************************************************** -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Mike Vasquez" > http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/car/745844951.html > > Thought I'd pass it along in case someone's in the market for one. > This is way over my budget. I have no affiliation at all with the > mentioned company. It's about 29-58x my budget for a project. :-) > > Mike From tomfelts at windstream.net Mon Jul 7 15:08:36 2008 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (tomfelts at windstream.net) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 17:08:36 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Replacement Radiator Fan Message-ID: <20080707210836.FBJJ22346.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> What did you say? Can't hear you!:):) Yep--have had it tested and no appreciable loss. I added a 6 blade composite fan in my E-Type (Series one that came with a 2-blade egg beater) and it IS loud, but no louder than the original 2 bladed one. Maybe I just haven't paid a lot of attention to the Healey one, but I think if it was loud, I'd have noticed. Cheers tom > > From: "Leonard Hartnett" > Date: 2008/07/07 Mon PM 05:02:27 EDT > To: "Healey Mail List" > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Replacement Radiator Fan > > Tom: Assuming you have normal hearing, if you want to hear how noisy your > fan is, take it off and run without it for a while. > > I was able to do this while stationed in England (someone told me I could > gain as much as 10 HP by removing it). As long as I was able to attain 40 > MPH, enough cool air passed through the radiator to avoid overheating even > without a fan installed. > that's not possible here in California in the Sacramento Valley area, of > course. > > I eventually installed a Hayden 7 bladed (metal) flex fan. It is noisy but > it pulls gobs of air. > > Bob may have been joking but, from experience, have you had your hearing > tested lately? I didn't realize how many sounds I was missing until I got > my hearing aids. > > (The Other) Len > Vacaville, California, USA > 1967 3000 MKIII, HBJ8L39031 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Spidell" > To: ; "Freese, Ken" ; > "Ron Fine" ; > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 11:52 AM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Replacement Radiator Fan > > > > Or you're deaf. > > > > ;) > > > > bs > > > > -- > > *************************************************************** > > Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net > > '67 Austin-Healey 3000 '56 Austin-Healey 100M > > *************************************************************** > > > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > > From: > >> I hear all this talk about the noise the 6 bladed steel blade makes. I > >> have > >> such, and have yet to hear the "noise". Guess I'm lucky. > >> > >> tom > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Jul 7 15:08:53 2008 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:08:53 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Finding TDC Message-ID: <070720082108.2676.487285E50006046A00000A74220702157304040A0B079F9C0D@comcast.net> Sounds like a great way to suck water into the cylinder. bs -- *************************************************************** Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net '67 Austin-Healey 3000 '56 Austin-Healey 100M *************************************************************** -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Freese, Ken" > Another cool technique is to replace the center electrode/porcelain with > a tube and connect the tube with rubber hose to a jar of water or other > liquid. > Ken Freese From ahbn6 at optonline.net Mon Jul 7 15:15:44 2008 From: ahbn6 at optonline.net (John Sims) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 17:15:44 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Speeds, distances, and odometers. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <016501c8e076$9e7bdee0$db739ca0$@net> And I will state that if we are getting mileage between 16 and 20, then what the heck has Detroit been doing over the last 40 years. Certainly not improving on what the British did with our cars. I would bet that there are few of us who can get mileage on new cars remotely close to the sticker mileage which is computed in a laboratory and not real world conditions as you guys did. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ www.healey6.com From: Editorgary at aol.com [mailto:Editorgary at aol.com] Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 5:01 PM To: ahbn6 at optonline.net; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Speeds, distances, and odometers. John Sims writes: Aren't we getting a little technical and/or anal about MPG and speed. There are countless permutations involved here guys. Sorry if the topic got a little too technical, but folks who were out on the road last week and had their own personal experiences were interested in the experiences of other folks on the road. But, as you note, one can't simply say what mileage one got without noting what engine and tranny one has, and the conditions under which one was driving. But I think our job here is done: Healeys generally get between 16 and 20 mpg, and anything outside that range is an issue for concern or a damned lie. Cheers Gary ) From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Mon Jul 7 15:28:01 2008 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Leonard Hartnett) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 14:28:01 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Anyone else have a non-overdrive tranny on their BJ8? In-Reply-To: <113632.80590.qm@web46315.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <113632.80590.qm@web46315.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3414D7412AFC4E448FFF06DAE6845772@LeonardPC> Jim: My Heritage certificate states, under "other information", "...This car was originally fitted with engine no. 29K RU H / 13594 with overdrive gearbox but this was changed before dispatch from the factory...". The certificate notes that it is LHD, North American export and, not stated, my car has a non-adjustable steering wheel. I can only guess as to why the original owner of my Healey chose to not have overdrive. He lived in Spain and perhaps the Spanish roads in 1967 did not warrant the cost or use of the overdrive. I further understand that he was physically handicapped, which would probably exclude his being US military, but I do not know if this had any bearing on his decision. BJ8 registrar Steve Byers and I have been unable to identify the original owner. (The Other) Len Vacaville, California, USA 1967 3000 MKIII, HBJ8L39031 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Culp" To: Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 1:01 PM Subject: [Healeys] Anyone else have a non-overdrive tranny on their BJ8? > My semi- odd '67 BJ8 came with non-adjustable steering wheel and a four > speed > non-overdrive transmission. I'm curious about a couple of things: > > 1. Why were so few cars equipped with the four speed non o/d? > 2. I wonder why the original owner saw fit to order the car that way- any > advantages over the o/d version > > Thanks all. > > Jim > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as thehartnetts at earthlink.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Jul 7 15:42:08 2008 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:42:08 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Speeds, distances, and odometers. Message-ID: <070720082142.28897.48728DB000018AEF000070E1220588636004040A0B079F9C0D@comcast.net> Hi John, re: "> Aren't we getting a little technical and/or anal about MPG and speed." Maybe, but it's interesting and important to me (you GET anal about this stuff when you fly and your life depends--quite literally--on the fuel in the tanks and the distance to the next airport, with bad weather behind you). Yes, there are a lot of variables but what's struck me is the relative consistency (fluids and technique notwithstanding). If you're not seeing the mileages the majority of the List is reporting you've got a problem in your drive train (or, if yours are a lot better--and your odometer is calibrated--what's your secret?). This thread was started by somebody--forgot who--who specifically requested others' experiences. Also, what happens if your fuel gauge goes TU on one of those lonely stretches in Nevada (don't say British gauges never fail ;)? You'll be glad for the MPG data you've collected and, hopefully, the GPS or at least decent maps, and it'll feel good to know your odometer is accurate (or exactly 6% off, or ...). I'm gonna hazard a guess you don't do a lot of long-distance driving in your Healey--gives you lots of time to ponder and compute. bs -- *************************************************************** Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net '67 Austin-Healey 3000 '56 Austin-Healey 100M *************************************************************** -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: John Sims > Personal aside: > > Aren't we getting a little technical and/or anal about MPG and speed. > > There are countless permutations involved here guys. > > Tranny ratios > Gear Box selections > Tire sizes, > Fuels used > Additives to the gas > Gear Box Lubes > Tranny oil > Leering at the passenger and slowing down as the eye signals become stronger > (opposite sex, I hope unless it has been a very, very, very long trip) > Freeway versus two lane highway > Number of stop lights > One horse or two horse towns gone through with artificially low speed zones > (AKA speed traps or revenue enhancers for the town) > Altitude > How recent was the build of the tranny, OD, Speedo, odometer, at idle while > looking at a deer on the road, yadda, yadda, yadda > > Ad nauseum which is a better way of saying yadda, yadda, yadda > > I loved reading the "blogs" that everyone was kind enough to share on the > list but . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . > > John Sims, BN6 > Aberdeen, NJ From steveg at abrazosdata.com Mon Jul 7 15:45:07 2008 From: steveg at abrazosdata.com (Steve B. Gerow) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:45:07 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Finding TDC Message-ID: > Bob Spidell wrote: > > Sounds like a great way to suck water into the cylinder. > Haven't done it but can imagine it to be very accurate in that on the up stroke bubbles would appear in the jar and would stop as soon as TDC was reached. If you had a thin transparent tube at the end in the jar, TDC would be when the last bubble left and water was just ready to go up the tube. -- Steve Gerow Pasadena CA 59 BN6 From javrugtman at htcnet.org Mon Jul 7 15:55:40 2008 From: javrugtman at htcnet.org (John Vrugtman) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 17:55:40 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Anyone else have a non-overdrive tranny on their BJ8? In-Reply-To: <3414D7412AFC4E448FFF06DAE6845772@LeonardPC> References: <113632.80590.qm@web46315.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <3414D7412AFC4E448FFF06DAE6845772@LeonardPC> Message-ID: <487290DC.6050209@htcnet.org> Heritage certificates are not necessarily accurate. Mine states it had a adjustable steering wheel, but it did not and I bought it new that way in 64. BTW during that time I drove extensively through Spain and if that owner was near the coast the roads would not be kind to overdrive. If more in the center of the country, then he would benefit from OD, but might as I did loose a muffler to some ferocious potholes. John BJ8s Leonard Hartnett wrote: > Jim: My Heritage certificate states, under "other information", "...This > car was originally fitted with engine no. 29K RU H / 13594 with overdrive > gearbox but this was changed before dispatch from the factory...". The > certificate notes that it is LHD, North American export and, not stated, my > car has a non-adjustable steering wheel. > > I can only guess as to why the original owner of my Healey chose to not have > overdrive. He lived in Spain and perhaps the Spanish roads in 1967 did not > warrant the cost or use of the overdrive. I further understand that he was > physically handicapped, which would probably exclude his being US military, > but I do not know if this had any bearing on his decision. BJ8 registrar > Steve Byers and I have been unable to identify the original owner. > > (The Other) Len > Vacaville, California, USA > 1967 3000 MKIII, HBJ8L39031 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Culp" > To: > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 1:01 PM > Subject: [Healeys] Anyone else have a non-overdrive tranny on their BJ8? > > > >> My semi- odd '67 BJ8 came with non-adjustable steering wheel and a four >> speed >> non-overdrive transmission. I'm curious about a couple of things: >> >> 1. Why were so few cars equipped with the four speed non o/d? >> 2. I wonder why the original owner saw fit to order the car that way- any >> advantages over the o/d version >> >> Thanks all. >> >> Jim >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as thehartnetts at earthlink.net >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as javrugtman at htcnet.org > > http://www.team.net/archive From ronald-ray at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 7 15:56:57 2008 From: ronald-ray at sbcglobal.net (Ronald J. Ray) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:56:57 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Speeds, distances, and odometers. In-Reply-To: <016501c8e076$9e7bdee0$db739ca0$@net> Message-ID: ACTUAL HIGHWAY DRIVING - 70MPH 1960 Austin Healey 3000: 21 miles per gallon 1986 Mazda B2000: 18 miles per gallon 1993 Honda DelSol: 40 miles per gallon 1998 Honda Civic HX: 42 miles per gallon. I'm not that interested in what Detroit has been, or will be, doing. Ron -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+ronald-ray=sbcglobal.net at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+ronald-ray=sbcglobal.net at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of John Sims Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 4:16 PM To: Editorgary at aol.com; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Speeds, distances, and odometers. And I will state that if we are getting mileage between 16 and 20, then what the heck has Detroit been doing over the last 40 years. Certainly not improving on what the British did with our cars. I would bet that there are few of us who can get mileage on new cars remotely close to the sticker mileage which is computed in a laboratory and not real world conditions as you guys did. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Jul 7 15:57:50 2008 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:57:50 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Finding TDC Message-ID: <070720082157.19393.4872915E0000F54700004BC1220588636004040A0B079F9C0D@comcast.net> Sure, but go a few degrees past TDC and you're sucking water into the cylinder (might try it with oil instead of water, however). How do you turn an engine at a steady rate--no more than a few degrees a minute--anyway? Used to know an aircraft mechanic who liked to find TDC by putting his thumb over the spark plug hole while someone turned the prop. The end of his thumb ended up in a cylinder (and no, the mechanic was no longer attached to it). bs -- *************************************************************** Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net '67 Austin-Healey 3000 '56 Austin-Healey 100M *************************************************************** -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Steve B. Gerow" > > Bob Spidell wrote: > > > > Sounds like a great way to suck water into the cylinder. > > > > Haven't done it but can imagine it to be very accurate in that on the up > stroke bubbles would appear in the jar and would stop as soon as TDC was > reached. If you had a thin transparent tube at the end in the jar, TDC would > be when the last bubble left and water was just ready to go up the tube. > > -- > Steve Gerow > Pasadena CA > 59 BN6 From steveg at abrazosdata.com Mon Jul 7 16:04:45 2008 From: steveg at abrazosdata.com (Steve B. Gerow) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:04:45 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] ZDDP followup - good news Message-ID: After spending a couple of hours researching the ZDDP issue online and seeing things like this... "I've seen more bad cams in the last year than in my previous 30 years as a cam grinder." From a Hot Rod magazine article. Today I called Valvoline's corp HQ in Kentucky and spoke to one of their techies. He told me VR-1 is specifically intended to be a flat-tappet oil similar to the older ones now off the market and that it is intended to be changed at regular 3000 mile intervals. He said they called it 'Racing' to make it perfectly clear in the marketplace that it is not for modern engines. He said they had had zero complaints and was pleased but not surprised to hear about M. Salter's 10 miles at racing speeds with no oil. He also said don't use their other racing grades as they're intended to be changed after every race--they don't have the longevity ingredients of street oil. Quaker State and someone else also have similar Racing Oils but they may not have quite as much ZDDP in them. Some experts also advocate using Diesel Oils, but some grades are not applicable and some are phasing out ZDDP due to use of cat convs in diesels coming up. Most info seemed to say adding an additive such as ZDDPlus creates iffy mixtures. Also with STP Red one might have to mix too much in there to get the ZDDP level--too much polymers. Perhaps the polymers were what caused my 14 mpg--before I'd typically get 16-17mpg. -- Steve Gerow Pasadena CA 59 BN6 From richard.ewald at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 16:36:44 2008 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 15:36:44 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Finding TDC In-Reply-To: <070720082157.19393.4872915E0000F54700004BC1220588636004040A0B079F9C0D@comcast.net> References: <070720082157.19393.4872915E0000F54700004BC1220588636004040A0B079F9C0D@comcast.net> Message-ID: With all the plugs out, turning the engine too far really isn't a problem. Just use a decent sized wrench or ratchet, turn slowly and it is pretty simple. It's not like you are using the starter motor. If you are still concerned, a small screwdriver in the spark plug hole also works just fine. On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: > Sure, but go a few degrees past TDC and you're sucking water into the > cylinder (might try it with oil instead of water, however). How do you turn > an engine at a steady rate--no more than a few degrees a minute--anyway? > > Used to know an aircraft mechanic who liked to find TDC by putting his > thumb over the spark plug hole while someone turned the prop. The end of > his thumb ended up in a cylinder (and no, the mechanic was no longer > attached to it). > > > bs > -- > *************************************************************** > Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net > '67 Austin-Healey 3000 '56 Austin-Healey 100M > *************************************************************** > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: "Steve B. Gerow" > > > Bob Spidell wrote: > > > > > > Sounds like a great way to suck water into the cylinder. > > > > > > > Haven't done it but can imagine it to be very accurate in that on the up > > stroke bubbles would appear in the jar and would stop as soon as TDC was > > reached. If you had a thin transparent tube at the end in the jar, TDC > would > > be when the last bubble left and water was just ready to go up the tube. > > > > -- > > Steve Gerow > > Pasadena CA > > 59 BN6 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richard.ewald at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From dwflagg at juno.com Mon Jul 7 17:43:56 2008 From: dwflagg at juno.com (Douglas W Flagg) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 19:43:56 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] My BN2 Message-ID: <20080707.194356.3692.10.dwflagg@juno.com> I owned my BN2 for over 15 years and spent much of that time acquiring the many missing parts. I was even able to locate the original doors from a PO in St. Louis. The tunnel cover, one door and the grille ( and I'm sure something else) were restored by Everett Smith. The one missing cockpit surround piece was located, quite by chance, during a casual conversation with the last owner. When I reluctantly sold my BN2 it was because I realized I had neither the time or resources to do it correctly. The new owner seemed eager to complete the task, saying that the BN2 and Healey Blue were his favorite. So as the trailer disappeared around the corner and with sadness in my eyes, I realized (I thought) that my BN2 was going to a good home. Today I received a call from the "new" owner of the chassis. It seems that my BN2 has been parted out with years of hard work and labor of love cast to the winds, lost forever to the greed of a new generation. I'm at a loss to understand this process as surely the BN2 could have been sold for a fair market price. He mentioned to the new owner that some of the parts had been sold on Craig's list (is that an offshoot of the Healey list?). I see this a lot with model trains, where the assumption is that the parts are worth more than the whole, but when it is gone, it is gone. The owner who parted out my BN2 is a Healey person and certainly understands the history of our cars. I was angry, at first, but now am sad that, unless a miracle happens, the wholeness and originality of the BN2 are lost. Sure, it can be put back together with parts from other 100's that, for the most part, have been parted out, but it will not be the same. When I sold the BN2 it had a unique character and history (had been raced). The pages have been ripped away, leaving a cover but no story. I really would like to know why, but probably never will. The moral, make sure the new owner is for real. Doug ____________________________________________________________ Protect your car's interior with great looking floor mats. Click here! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nekn11qSkKm982XvIJGfYw57SNCRCgeT6KSAPzU1kJAWwHi/ From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Jul 7 18:21:38 2008 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 17:21:38 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] My BN2 In-Reply-To: <20080707.194356.3692.10.dwflagg@juno.com> References: <20080707.194356.3692.10.dwflagg@juno.com> Message-ID: <4872B312.7090509@comcast.net> Doug, This IS sad. My dad had a 1940 Ford pickup that he'd hot-rodded as a young man (it was our family vehicle for a while), but which he had restored to original. He sold it to a young man who appeared to appreciate the truck and promised to take good care of it (Dad discounted the price some because of this). The "kid" promptly sold it, doubling his money. Dad also sold a stock but unrestored '40 Ford coupe to a man who promised to restore it, but who turned it into a hot rod (the guy had the chutzpah to bring the rodded-up car to show off to my dad). Dad was hurt both times, but philosophical--when you sell something you have no stake in it anymore. OTOH, when we bought our 100M Dad told the seller of my passion for Healeys and the seller dropped the price and he and my dad became good friends. Face it folks, a lot of people--maybe a majority--aren't "car people." To most, it's an appliance with four wheels. I pity them. bs Douglas W Flagg wrote: > I owned my BN2 for over ... I really would like to know > why, but probably never will. The moral, make sure the new owner is for > real. > > Doug > ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From dwflagg at juno.com Mon Jul 7 18:45:14 2008 From: dwflagg at juno.com (Douglas W Flagg) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 20:45:14 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] My BN2 Message-ID: <20080707.204514.3184.2.dwflagg@juno.com> bs, The real pity is that money is here and gone, but the automobile can be for lifetimes. Doug > Doug, > > > This IS sad. > > My dad had a 1940 Ford pickup that he'd hot-rodded as a young man > (it > was our family vehicle for a while), but which he had restored to > original. He sold it to a young man who appeared to appreciate the > > truck and promised to take good care of it (Dad discounted the price > > some because of this). The "kid" promptly sold it, doubling his > money. > Dad also sold a stock but unrestored '40 Ford coupe to a man who > promised to restore it, but who turned it into a hot rod (the guy > had > the chutzpah to bring the rodded-up car to show off to my dad). Dad > was > hurt both times, but philosophical--when you sell something you have > no > stake in it anymore. > > OTOH, when we bought our 100M Dad told the seller of my passion for > > Healeys and the seller dropped the price and he and my dad became > good > friends. > > Face it folks, a lot of people--maybe a majority--aren't "car > people." > To most, it's an appliance with four wheels. I pity them. > > > bs > > > Douglas W Flagg wrote: > > I owned my BN2 for over ... I really would like to know > > why, but probably never will. The moral, make sure the new owner > is for > > real. > > > > Doug > > > ******************************************************************* > Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net > ******************************************************************* > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as dwflagg at juno.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > ____________________________________________________________ Shop now for huge discounts on quality surveillance cameras. Click here! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3mYPvXcXMzCpGDcGhyrz8v3V0GUSxljsG8jWdYL0CnV5Akc8/ From jculphealey at yahoo.com Mon Jul 7 18:53:12 2008 From: jculphealey at yahoo.com (Jim Culp) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 17:53:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Anyone else have a non-overdrive tranny on their BJ8? In-Reply-To: <487290DC.6050209@htcnet.org> Message-ID: <638647.67702.qm@web46303.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Interesting- my certificate says the same thing. --- On Mon, 7/7/08, John Vrugtman wrote: From: John Vrugtman Subject: Re: [Healeys] Anyone else have a non-overdrive tranny on their BJ8? To: "Leonard Hartnett" Cc: "Healey Mail List" Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 9:55 PM Heritage certificates are not necessarily accurate. Mine states it had a adjustable steering wheel, but it did not and I bought it new that way in 64. BTW during that time I drove extensively through Spain and if that owner was near the coast the roads would not be kind to overdrive. If more in the center of the country, then he would benefit from OD, but might as I did loose a muffler to some ferocious potholes. John BJ8s Leonard Hartnett wrote: > Jim: My Heritage certificate states, under "other information", "...This > car was originally fitted with engine no. 29K RU H / 13594 with overdrive > gearbox but this was changed before dispatch from the factory...". The > certificate notes that it is LHD, North American export and, not stated, my > car has a non-adjustable steering wheel. > > I can only guess as to why the original owner of my Healey chose to not have > overdrive. He lived in Spain and perhaps the Spanish roads in 1967 did not > warrant the cost or use of the overdrive. I further understand that he was > physically handicapped, which would probably exclude his being US military, > but I do not know if this had any bearing on his decision. BJ8 registrar > Steve Byers and I have been unable to identify the original owner. > > (The Other) Len > Vacaville, California, USA > 1967 3000 MKIII, HBJ8L39031 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Culp" > To: > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 1:01 PM > Subject: [Healeys] Anyone else have a non-overdrive tranny on their BJ8? > > > >> My semi- odd '67 BJ8 came with non-adjustable steering wheel and a four >> speed >> non-overdrive transmission. I'm curious about a couple of things: >> >> 1. Why were so few cars equipped with the four speed non o/d? >> 2. I wonder why the original owner saw fit to order the car that way- any >> advantages over the o/d version >> >> Thanks all. >> >> Jim >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as thehartnetts at earthlink.net >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as javrugtman at htcnet.org > > http://www.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as jculphealey at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive From sjnnock at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 7 19:05:43 2008 From: sjnnock at sbcglobal.net (Norman Nock) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 18:05:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Hot Brakes In-Reply-To: <801875.4198.qm@web31501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <223982.90005.qm@web83311.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> JOE ..lf you had a high / hard brake pedal on your car the brake fluid inside the brake master cyl. was not returning the fluid into the reservoir and leaving pressure on the system , each time you applied the brakes they got harder and harder ... you should have noticed this brake drag when you were driving ... this problem is in the master cyl. OR is there something stopping the brake pedal returning ??? return spring missing ?? Replace your master cyl. with a new one More information A/H Magazine June/July 1990 Nov 1996 Sept/Oct 1996 AND MY tech Talk book pages 38 .. 67 ..155 .. 153 and see index TECH TALK by Norman Nock l have been writing technical articles for Healey clubs for over 25 years . After numerous requests , l have gathered them together, along with some never before published articles and had them spiral bound in book form $ 35.00 + $7.50 in USA 265 pages Updated Annually Both our catalogs are on line and can be down loaded www.BritishCarSpecialists.com Tech Talk SAMPLE PAGES ON LINE British Car Specialists 2060 N Wilson Way Stockton CA 95205 --- jomar healey wrote: > I just came back from a short ride in the BJ8, air > temp was in the high 88's. > Just before I got to my driveway I hit the brakes to > stop at an intersection > and experienced a hard pedal and brake fade. I > tossed some water on the discs > when i got home and it steamed right off. Up to > this the car had been running > great. It has been awhile since I did the brakes, > about 10 years, so I'm > guessing it might be time to replace the brake fluid > and brake hoses. Does > this sound like a good place to start? > _______________________________________________ From 57healey at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 19:10:15 2008 From: 57healey at gmail.com (Patton Dickson) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 20:10:15 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Anyone else have a non-overdrive tranny on their BJ8? In-Reply-To: <487290DC.6050209@htcnet.org> References: <113632.80590.qm@web46315.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <3414D7412AFC4E448FFF06DAE6845772@LeonardPC> <487290DC.6050209@htcnet.org> Message-ID: <743b1e2f0807071810j58ab94e7i31d78d5e21fd70ed@mail.gmail.com> The first one I got said I had a Two Seat BN-4 a rare option a year before the BN-6 was built. They sent me a new one free of charge after a phone call. Patton On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 4:55 PM, John Vrugtman wrote: > Heritage certificates are not necessarily accurate. Mine states it had -- Patton Dickson - http://Austin-Healeys.com - Plano, TX 1957 Austin-Healey 100-Six "Built to run 'til the road wears out." From kentmclean at comcast.net Mon Jul 7 19:38:41 2008 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:38:41 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] My BN2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4872C521.7090803@comcast.net> Douglas W Flagg wrote: > The moral, make sure the new owner is for real. I feel your pain, but if you don't own it, you can't control it. About 2-3 years ago, out of work, I considered selling my BN2 but I was talked out of it. I've since put about $10,000 into it, all in storage fees. :( But it is still mine. It would have made more sense financially to have sold it, to buy another when I could, but that one is too much a part of me (and my dreams). Bob S wrote: > He sold it to a young man who appeared to appreciate the > truck and promised to take good care of it (Dad discounted > the price some because of this). The "kid" promptly sold it, About 30 years ago my brother in law had a '40s Chevy he had to sell for financial reasons. I think he still regrets it. I'm glad I could hold on to mine. -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2, in storage since '74 From tahoehealey at hotmail.com Mon Jul 7 20:25:17 2008 From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 19:25:17 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Mileage followup In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My BJ8 got 19 to 22 depending on the amount of stop and go (like the fun ralley). Rich Kahn from Tahoe.> Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 21:30:35 -0700> From: steveg at abrazosdata.com> To: healeys at autox.team.net> Subject: [Healeys] Mileage followup> > An envious thanks to all who got 20+ mpg on the survey.> > Were the cars all BJ8s or were there HD6s or tricarbs?> > I understand the HD8s get better mileage.> -- > Steve Gerow> Pasadena CA> 59 BN6> _______________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > Healeys at autox.team.net> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys> > You are subscribed as tahoehealey at hotmail.com> > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Need to know now? Get instant answers with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_ messenger_072008 From healey53 at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 21:01:16 2008 From: healey53 at gmail.com (Joseph Costa) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 23:01:16 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Hot Brakes In-Reply-To: <223982.90005.qm@web83311.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <801875.4198.qm@web31501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <223982.90005.qm@web83311.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: To all thanks for the ideas. The easy way would be to rebuild the system but that would be easy; so, I've elected to do things in stages. Stage one will be to replace the brake fluid. After that is done I will replace the master cylinder. Even after leaving the car sitting for a few days the pedal is still hard. If it were a hose it would have "bleed" out by now. If the master cylinder is the cause I will still replace the hoses, Ten years is getting my moneys worth for them. I will post again after I have an answer. Also to Norm, I do have your Tech book and try to update it on a regular basis, that and Haynes are my go to books. Joe BN1 #923 Coronet Cream BN2 100M BJ8 Just a great car On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Norman Nock wrote: > JOE ..lf you had a high / hard brake pedal on your > car > the brake fluid inside the brake master cyl. was not > returning the fluid into the reservoir and leaving > pressure on the system , each time you applied the > brakes they got harder and harder ... you should have > noticed this brake drag when you were driving ... this > problem is in the master cyl. OR is there something > stopping the brake pedal returning ??? return spring > missing ?? > > Replace your master cyl. with a new > one > > More information A/H Magazine June/July 1990 > Nov 1996 Sept/Oct 1996 > AND > MY tech Talk book pages 38 .. 67 ..155 .. 153 and > see index > > > TECH TALK by Norman Nock > l have been writing technical articles > for Healey clubs for over 25 years . > After numerous requests , l have > gathered them together, along with > some never before published > articles and had them spiral > bound in book form > $ 35.00 + $7.50 in USA > 265 pages Updated Annually > > Both our catalogs are on line and can be down loaded > www.BritishCarSpecialists.com > > Tech Talk > SAMPLE PAGES ON LINE > British Car Specialists > 2060 N Wilson Way > Stockton CA 95205 > --- jomar healey wrote: > > > I just came back from a short ride in the BJ8, air > > temp was in the high 88's. > > Just before I got to my driveway I hit the brakes to > > stop at an intersection > > and experienced a hard pedal and brake fade. I > > tossed some water on the discs > > when i got home and it steamed right off. Up to > > this the car had been running > > great. It has been awhile since I did the brakes, > > about 10 years, so I'm > > guessing it might be time to replace the brake fluid > > and brake hoses. Does > > this sound like a good place to start? > > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey53 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From shop at justbrits.com Mon Jul 7 22:07:32 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 22:07:32 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Finding TDC References: <070720082157.19393.4872915E0000F54700004BC1220588636004040A0B079F9C0D@comcast.net> Message-ID: <010701c8e0b0$25ff1880$6501a8c0@shop> <> I MUCH prefer the non-brush end of a fine paint brush. Of course, the much easier way is to purchase a "Whistler". Screws into the spark plug hole(s) and tells one VERY plainly where TDC is!! Mine cost me about $10 years ago and I think Eastwood has one for around $20. Ed From ynotink at msn.com Mon Jul 7 22:47:51 2008 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 04:47:51 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Finding TDC In-Reply-To: <070720082157.19393.4872915E0000F54700004BC1220588636004040A0B079F9C0D@comcast.net> Message-ID: I think the water and tube method will work quite well if you shape the tube into a vertical U about 24" tall. This is called a water manometer. If you are worried about sucking in water you can place a container of some type between the cylinder and manometer that exceeds the displacement of the cylinder. If you happen to turn the engine all the way over the water will end up in the container and not the engine. By marking the height of the water column in the tube at its highest point you can pretty accurately determine the point where the piston breaks over TDC. There are a few degrees on both sides of TDC where there is not much piston movement. This method may be accurate enough so that doesn't matter, but in case it is too difficult to determine the exact highest point the fall back is to mark both the pulley and the manometer at a point a few degrees on one side of TDC, move the crank until the piston passes beyond TDC and the water level comes back to the same point on the manometer, mark the pulley at that point, measure between the two marks on the pulley and mark a point exactly half way between them. that is TDC. Bill Lawrence >From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) >To: "Steve B. Gerow" , Healeys >Newsgroup >Subject: Re: [Healeys] Finding TDC >Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:57:50 +0000 > >Sure, but go a few degrees past TDC and you're sucking water into the >cylinder (might try it with oil instead of water, however). How do you >turn an engine at a steady rate--no more than a few degrees a >minute--anyway? > >Used to know an aircraft mechanic who liked to find TDC by putting his >thumb over the spark plug hole while someone turned the prop. The end of >his thumb ended up in a cylinder (and no, the mechanic was no longer >attached to it). > > >bs >-- >*************************************************************** >Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net >'67 Austin-Healey 3000 '56 Austin-Healey 100M >*************************************************************** > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- >From: "Steve B. Gerow" > > > Bob Spidell wrote: > > > > > > Sounds like a great way to suck water into the cylinder. > > > > > > > Haven't done it but can imagine it to be very accurate in that on the up > > stroke bubbles would appear in the jar and would stop as soon as TDC was > > reached. If you had a thin transparent tube at the end in the jar, TDC >would > > be when the last bubble left and water was just ready to go up the tube. > > > > -- > > Steve Gerow > > Pasadena CA > > 59 BN6 >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >Healeys at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > >You are subscribed as ynotink at msn.com > >http://www.team.net/archive From ah3000me at gmail.com Tue Jul 8 04:45:53 2008 From: ah3000me at gmail.com (T W) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 06:45:53 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] 3.5 Rearend In-Reply-To: <554183.9165.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <554183.9165.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: It's gotta be better than the early 90's automatic Ford Fiesta that my wife and I rented when we were out in the Tetons. - Tom On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Bob Brown wrote: > Ron, Bob, > I think Steve was commenting regarding my message from last night we I > mentioned a little problem with the 3.55 on the fisrt high pass at Vail. Not > properly anticipating my approach I lost power due to being in the wrong > gear. > At the Eisenhower Pass (higher than Vail) no problem as I did get the right > gear combination. I dropped out of 4th OD, downshifted ionto 3rd and then > went to 3rd OD, had plenty of power and no struggle by the engine. > It is all in doing it right to start, once the car slows it can be an > inconvience getting back to speed. > Bob From jculphealey at yahoo.com Tue Jul 8 05:51:42 2008 From: jculphealey at yahoo.com (Jim Culp) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 04:51:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Anyone else have a non-overdrive tranny on their BJ8? In-Reply-To: <743b1e2f0807071810j58ab94e7i31d78d5e21fd70ed@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <348110.5840.qm@web46308.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I disputed my incorrect steering wheel information, and they stated that they had to go with the factory information that they had- they wouldn't change my certificate. --- On Tue, 7/8/08, Patton Dickson <57healey at gmail.com> wrote: From: Patton Dickson <57healey at gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Anyone else have a non-overdrive tranny on their BJ8? To: "John Vrugtman" Cc: "Healey Mail List" Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 1:10 AM The first one I got said I had a Two Seat BN-4 a rare option a year before the BN-6 was built. They sent me a new one free of charge after a phone call. Patton On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 4:55 PM, John Vrugtman wrote: > Heritage certificates are not necessarily accurate. Mine states it had -- Patton Dickson - http://Austin-Healeys.com - Plano, TX 1957 Austin-Healey 100-Six "Built to run 'til the road wears out." Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as jculphealey at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive From sbyers at ec.rr.com Tue Jul 8 06:06:43 2008 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 8:06:43 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] On the Road Home from Conclave (Day 5) Message-ID: <4922408.863341215518804018.JavaMail.root@cdptpa-web07-z02> Hello, Healeyphiles - On my older maps of Utah and Colorado, the highway between Monticello, UT and Cortez, CO is shown as US666 (the Road to Hell - my term). I had been looking forward to driving the Healey from Hell (HBJ8L/36-666) on that road, but the highway department has wimped out and changed the route number to US491. Perhaps they got tired of someone stealing their route markers for souvenirs. Anyway, the road is still paved with good intentions and was a pleasant drive in the early morning. We passed an unusual junkyard just outside Cortez, which is full of old American cars, such as the Nash Rambler, '58 Chevy, and '53 Pontiac I saw as we drove by. They appear to be more or less intact, but rusting away externally. We were met in Durango by Kevin Bruce, a BJ8-in-progress owner and sometimes participant on the list and we spent a half-hour or so chatting with him and his wife Ann in an outdoor coffee shop downtown. As we conversed, passersby stopped to admire the cars and take photos of them. Kevin had an interesting tool that I need to get hold of: a parking meter key. With that, we didn't need to feed the meter. We also decided that it was time for an oil change and spent a 1-1/2 hour session at Jiffy(?) Lube due to too many people ahead of us opting for "the works". Durango to Walsenburg was US160, a nice enough road but with a lot more traffic than we have been used to lately, plus a full complement of trucks and road construction to keep things interesting. We crossed Wolf Creek Pass at 10,850 feet and North La Veta Pass at 9,400. George began to have problems with his clutch that he thinks might be air in the line expanding at altitude, but we will give it a bleed and see how that works. His car is equipped with the Mr. Finespanner bleed extension, so the job won't be as much of a pain as normally. The rain caught us as we entered Walsenburg, so the tops came up early for the night. Happy Healeying! Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Jul 8 06:22:12 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 20:22:12 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] 3.5 Rearend In-Reply-To: References: <554183.9165.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Tom - Don't you dare slag off the Fiesta. It was a Healey, once: http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/your_garage/cars/625.shtml Cheers! Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 6:45 PM, T W wrote: > It's gotta be better than the early 90's automatic Ford Fiesta that my wife > and I rented when we were out in the Tetons. > > - Tom > > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Bob Brown wrote: > >> Ron, Bob, >> I think Steve was commenting regarding my message from last night we I >> mentioned a little problem with the 3.55 on the fisrt high pass at Vail. Not >> properly anticipating my approach I lost power due to being in the wrong >> gear. >> At the Eisenhower Pass (higher than Vail) no problem as I did get the right >> gear combination. I dropped out of 4th OD, downshifted ionto 3rd and then >> went to 3rd OD, had plenty of power and no struggle by the engine. >> It is all in doing it right to start, once the car slows it can be an >> inconvience getting back to speed. >> Bob > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com Tue Jul 8 08:17:19 2008 From: Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 07:17:19 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 3.5 Rearend In-Reply-To: References: <554183.9165.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D904D49@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> Tom, No such thing as an automatic Fiesta. You must be thinking of a Festiva. Very different animals. Ken Freese 78 Fiesta 65 BJ8 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+ken.freese=aerojet.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+ken.freese=aerojet.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of T W Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 3:46 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3.5 Rearend It's gotta be better than the early 90's automatic Ford Fiesta that my wife and I rented when we were out in the Tetons. - Tom From tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl Tue Jul 8 09:10:01 2008 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:10:01 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] My BN2 Message-ID: <002701c8e10c$b1d3e410$0300a8c0@tm4> I bought my BN2 in December last year. The guy I bought the car from had it only for few months, did about 200 miles in it. The wife did not like it.. When I got the car, there was a box of papers with history of the car, and a note on the box "Please take good care of it, someday I might like to buy it back from you.." I contacted the original owner. It turned out it was a family car, they had it since '67. He was surprised the car switched owners so quickly, but was happy I was planning to keep it & restore it to original condition.. I think it's easy to get attached, esp if you owned it for 40 years... Tadek From Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com Tue Jul 8 09:14:08 2008 From: Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 08:14:08 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Healey boat registry? Message-ID: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D904D4F@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> Is there a Healey boat registry? Ken Freese 65 BJ8 From dan at warner-associates.com Tue Jul 8 09:18:07 2008 From: dan at warner-associates.com (Dan Stromquist) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 10:18:07 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Why did they make it like that? In-Reply-To: <2F60644A-0359-4D87-832F-F65509961A36@mac.com> Message-ID: <003501c8e10d$d33eecc0$1e00000a@DANSTROM> Mike: You may have an answer to your carb question by now since I have been out of town fishing. If not, try Jim Taylor at 918-333-3444. He should know and does very good work at a reasonable price. Regards, Dan -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+dan=warner-associates.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+dan=warner-associates.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Gladwin Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 6:13 PM To: Healey List Subject: [Healeys] Why did they make it like that? Well, my question about square exhaust port holes met with (almost) complete silence. Surely someone knows? Not that it is important. I'll try with a second question more relevant to present repair work. What rate piston spring should be in a tri-carb carb. I think it is red (4 1/2 oz). Can anyone help or are you all burbling over to San Diego and over-indulging in Dos XX? Mike Gladwin BT7 II Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as dan at warner-associates.com http://www.team.net/archive From dan at warner-associates.com Tue Jul 8 09:33:35 2008 From: dan at warner-associates.com (Dan Stromquist) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 10:33:35 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] AH 100 first driving impressions - Boy this is fun!... In-Reply-To: <002b01c8dba7$b72ead10$0300a8c0@tm4> Message-ID: <003601c8e10f$fc974430$1e00000a@DANSTROM> Tom: My 64 has an adjustment on the steering box that tightens the pin inside. Yours may be to tight after rebushing. Loosen the lock nut and back off a small amount. Dan -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+dan=warner-associates.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+dan=warner-associates.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tadeusz Malkiewicz Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 1:25 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] AH 100 first driving impressions - Boy this is fun!... Well, well, I have covered about 40 miles in my BN2 today, came back home safely without any incident!.. I have totally rebuild: - front suspension - rear suspension - brakes - steering The brakes still would need a bit of adjustment, the toe-in is not set proper, but I could not resist.. I have to say I am really impressed by the way a 52 year old car goes - the acceleration is superb, handling is fine, I enjoyed it madly!!.... I have a few questions though: 1. What sort of play should I have on the steering wheel? It's the late type BN2 steering box. 2. The steering wheel does not 'turn back' after a corner (like most modern cars). Should it? (I have rebuild the steering box with a new bush.) 3. When shifting from 2nd to 3rd there seems to be no synchronization - are the parts available? 4. What gears do you use when driving through the city? I found 2nd and 4th most useful - it seems as though it could be a 2 speed gearbox... :-) 5. What should be the oil pressure while idling & while driving? 6. What should be the water temperature? How high should it go up when you stop the car? 7. Should I use 98 or 95 octane petrol? (these are European standards) 8. What should be my fuel consumption? 9. I am almost 190cm, so.. when driving, the chrome top edge of the window is on my eye level. Is there any remedy here? Anyone with similar problems (& solutions)?... 10. When the seat is in the rearmost position the seat back (squab) seems to be resting on the folded roof, not on the seat frame. Have I folded the roof incorrectly or is this normal? 11. I might be forced to install orange indicators in the rear. (I hate the thought) Nonetheless, does anyone have pictures of a neat solution to this problem?.. 12. The tow in should be set like in the book? (1/16-1/8")? As usual, all help would be appreciated... Many thanks!.. Tadek Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as dan at warner-associates.com http://www.team.net/archive From jobu53 at hotmail.com Tue Jul 8 09:38:39 2008 From: jobu53 at hotmail.com (Dan Serrao) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 08:38:39 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] British Tool Message-ID: Does anyone have a phone number for British Tool. Their website appears to be down. I'm looking for an Overdrive Plug removal tool. Thanks Dan Serrao 1963 BJ7 _________________________________________________________________ Making the world a better place one message at a time. http://www.imtalkathon.com/?source=EML_WLH_Talkathon_BetterPlace From shop at justbrits.com Tue Jul 8 10:54:37 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 10:54:37 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Healey boat registry? References: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D904D4F@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> Message-ID: <01c701c8e11b$4e9b0d10$6501a8c0@shop> <> Yep, Ken. See your Membership Book and/or Resource Book. I think John May takes care of it. Or WST will most likely add something as he has one in his Healey 'fleet'. Ed From shop at justbrits.com Tue Jul 8 12:53:47 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 12:53:47 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] My BN2 References: <002701c8e10c$b1d3e410$0300a8c0@tm4> Message-ID: <000f01c8e12b$f4f3f090$6501a8c0@shop> <> Very cool, Tadek !! Will you be able to take him (and any family members) for a ride when you are (if ever - LOL) finished??? When I got Hortense back to being reliable & safe, I drove about 200 miles back south and took the gent I bought her from. He was absolutely ELATED !! Ed From tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl Tue Jul 8 12:14:14 2008 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:14:14 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] My BN2 Message-ID: <004501c8e126$6da3fe50$0300a8c0@tm4> He is most welcome to Poland.. :-) Message: 7 Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 12:53:47 -0600 From: "Ed's Shop" Subject: Re: [Healeys] My BN2 To: Message-ID: <000f01c8e12b$f4f3f090$6501a8c0 at shop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" <> Very cool, Tadek !! Will you be able to take him (and any family members) for a ride when you are (if ever - LOL) finished??? When I got Hortense back to being reliable & safe, I drove about 200 miles back south and took the gent I bought her from. He was absolutely ELATED !! Ed From tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl Tue Jul 8 12:14:56 2008 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:14:56 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] AH 100 first driving impressions Message-ID: <004a01c8e126$89bab2a0$0300a8c0@tm4> I tried this, but it does not help.. I will try to add a shim extra from the front.. Message: 4 Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 10:33:35 -0500 From: "Dan Stromquist" Subject: Re: [Healeys] AH 100 first driving impressions - Boy this is fun!... To: Message-ID: <003601c8e10f$fc974430$1e00000a at DANSTROM> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Tom: My 64 has an adjustment on the steering box that tightens the pin inside. Yours may be to tight after rebushing. Loosen the lock nut and back off a small amount. Dan From rjswain at hotmail.com Tue Jul 8 12:33:19 2008 From: rjswain at hotmail.com (Rick Swain) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 18:33:19 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Sideshift Gearbox Cover Measurement Message-ID: The BN4's gearbox cover is in pretty good shape - except for the front sections of the flanges that sit on the floor pans. They were rather poorly repaired and I don't think they are quite right. Can anyone who has a six cylinder car with sideshift box tell me how wide those flanges are at the front? Thanks in advance. Rick Swain '59 BN4 (initially when I typed the 4, I had my shift key down so it came out as BN$. That may not be so far off when I get finished putting the new frame under her.) _________________________________________________________________ Try Chicktionary, a game that tests how many words you can form from the letters given. Find this and more puzzles at Live Search Games! From 57healey at gmail.com Tue Jul 8 13:52:18 2008 From: 57healey at gmail.com (Patton Dickson) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 14:52:18 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Longbridge BN4 Armrest Installation In-Reply-To: <004d01c8e042$ee1c13e0$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> References: <743b1e2f0807070746u375fdc4bwde5cc510595dda4c@mail.gmail.com> <004d01c8e042$ee1c13e0$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> Message-ID: <743b1e2f0807081252x7a7d3aaod4b213f0ecf49de2@mail.gmail.com> Rich, On the long style is the armrest secured on a "Lift-the-Dot" like the short one, or a tenax fastener? Thanks Patton On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 10:05 AM, Rich C wrote: > Patton, > Long or short version, (height of sides)? > > Rich Chrysler -- Patton Dickson - http://Austin-Healeys.com - Plano, TX 1957 Austin-Healey 100-Six "Built to run 'til the road wears out." From steveg at abrazosdata.com Tue Jul 8 16:17:44 2008 From: steveg at abrazosdata.com (Steve B. Gerow) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:17:44 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Hot Brakes - possible answer Message-ID: I had the same problem with a clutch master cylinder--you'd push the pedal down and the clutch would stay depressed--turned out there was a rubber washer, called 'End Seal' inserted between the cup of the piston and the mushroom end of the pushrod, which, inside of the circlip and retaining washer, depressed the piston just enough to prevent the return of the fluid to the reservoir. The Brake Cylinder on P 265 of the Factory Manual, shows this as item 8. I removed it and the cylinder works fine. Another former BN2 owner I know had the same problem with his brake cylinder. -- Steve Gerow Pasadena CA 59 BN6 From rchaskell at earthlink.net Tue Jul 8 16:48:00 2008 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:48:00 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Speeds, distances, and odometers. In-Reply-To: <016501c8e076$9e7bdee0$db739ca0$@net> References: <016501c8e076$9e7bdee0$db739ca0$@net> Message-ID: <4873EEA0.4070302@earthlink.net> John, We just drove our 2007 Mini Cooper S from Indiana to Rhode Island and back. Got about 36 mpg with most of the driving on the highway. EPA estimates: 26 city, 34 highway. Gary, Our Garmin (nuvo 200) indicates 3 mph lower than the Mini's or our VW's speedometer at highway speeds. The Healey's speedometer bounces too much. Bob From rchaskell at earthlink.net Tue Jul 8 16:51:28 2008 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:51:28 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel Tank Sending Unit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4873EF70.1080900@earthlink.net> Dan, You might check with Margret Lucas at Mo-Ma Manufacturing. The replacement fuel sending unit she sells comes with an additional float that looks like the original metal one from Smiths. (The sending unit doesn't look like the original.) May-be she'll sell you just the float. Bob Dan Serrao wrote: > On my way to Conclave my fuel tank sending unit went t.u. I purchased it a few > years ago on Ebay and it had a plastic float. Does anyone know of a source for > a quality replacement? On the Healy6 website there is a Ford unit but I'm not > sure if it's a complete unit or just the float. TIA > > Dan Serrao > 1963 BJ7 From mlempert at bellsouth.net Tue Jul 8 16:51:52 2008 From: mlempert at bellsouth.net (M Lempert) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 18:51:52 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Conclave Photos Message-ID: <190901c8e14d$376b9d30$6001a8c0@DadsPC> Hello Healey folks. I've just finished uploading my pictures from Conclave in San Diego. If anyone can add information to any photos, such as names, let me know and I'll update the titles. If anyone cares to have a picture and would like it in the original larger file size, just ask and I'll email. http://www.pbase.com/mdlempert/sandiego Regards, Mike Lempert From rchaskell at earthlink.net Tue Jul 8 16:53:59 2008 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:53:59 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] British Tool In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4873F007.8080807@earthlink.net> Dan, The phone number I have for Robb is (616) 363-6666 (Grand Rapids, MI) Bob Dan Serrao wrote: > Does anyone have a phone number for British Tool. Their website appears to be > down. I'm looking for an Overdrive Plug removal tool. Thanks > > Dan Serrao > 1963 BJ7 From Editorgary at aol.com Tue Jul 8 17:25:45 2008 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 19:25:45 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Speeds, distances, and odometers. Message-ID: In a message dated 7/8/08 3:48:07 PM, rchaskell at earthlink.net writes: > Our Garmin (nuvo 200) indicates 3 mph lower than the Mini's or our VW's > speedometer at highway speeds. The Healey's speedometer bounces too much. > Sounds about right; the Garmin is accurate and most cars' speedos read a few miles on the plus side, probably for liability reasons. If your Healey's speedo bounces around, maybe you've got a cable problem; most don't bounce. Cheers Gary ************** Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) From 57healey at gmail.com Tue Jul 8 17:28:20 2008 From: 57healey at gmail.com (Patton Dickson) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 18:28:20 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Sideshift Gearbox Cover Measurement In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <743b1e2f0807081628y7d2c6502j773189b3f26b5a64@mail.gmail.com> Here are photos of mine with a ruler held to the flanges. If I measured the wrong part or if you need more, let me know, its easy to get to right now. http://picasaweb.google.com/57Healey/20080708TransmissionCover Patton On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Rick Swain wrote: > The BN4's gearbox cover is in pretty good shape - except for the front > sections of the flanges that sit on the floor pans. They were rather poorly > repaired and I don't think they are quite right. Can anyone who has a six > cylinder car with sideshift box tell me how wide those flanges are at the > front? > -- Patton Dickson - http://Austin-Healeys.com - Plano, TX 1957 Austin-Healey 100-Six "Built to run 'til the road wears out." From linwoodrose at mac.com Tue Jul 8 17:31:38 2008 From: linwoodrose at mac.com (Linwood H Rose) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:31:38 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Conclave Photos In-Reply-To: <190901c8e14d$376b9d30$6001a8c0@DadsPC> References: <190901c8e14d$376b9d30$6001a8c0@DadsPC> Message-ID: Hi Mike, I was hoping that someone would get some Conclave images up! For those who weren't able to attend, the photos are just great. Thanks for sharing. Lin Rose 1960 BT7 "The Bloody Beast" 1959 AN5 Bugeye From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 8 17:47:52 2008 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 16:47:52 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Speeds, distances, and odometers. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <636E17CC-F058-4FB0-BD91-531CF833DFE0@sbcglobal.net> My Garmin and the odometer in the Healey were 20 miles difference on the trip to San Diego and back. If your speedo is jumping around then either the cable is to long sticking out into the instrument or the cable is bad. If the end of the cable sticks out to far it will damage the instrument and it will need to be re built. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Jul 8, 2008, at 4:25 PM, Editorgary at aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 7/8/08 3:48:07 PM, rchaskell at earthlink.net writes: > > >> Our Garmin (nuvo 200) indicates 3 mph lower than the Mini's or our >> VW's >> speedometer at highway speeds. The Healey's speedometer bounces >> too much. >> > > Sounds about right; the Garmin is accurate and most cars' speedos > read a few > miles on the plus side, probably for liability reasons. If your > Healey's > speedo bounces around, maybe you've got a cable problem; most don't > bounce. > Cheers > Gary > > > ************** > Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for > fuel-efficient used cars. > (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From ricksnover at earthlink.net Tue Jul 8 17:48:57 2008 From: ricksnover at earthlink.net (Rick Snover) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:48:57 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Conclave Photos In-Reply-To: References: <190901c8e14d$376b9d30$6001a8c0@DadsPC> Message-ID: There's now also a slideshow on the Conclave web site: http://www.austinhealeyconclave.org At 04:31 PM 7/8/2008, Linwood H Rose wrote: >I was hoping that someone would get some Conclave images up! For >those who weren't able to attend, the photos are just great. Thanks >for sharing. From ricksnover at earthlink.net Tue Jul 8 17:52:17 2008 From: ricksnover at earthlink.net (Rick Snover) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:52:17 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Conclave Photos In-Reply-To: References: <190901c8e14d$376b9d30$6001a8c0@DadsPC> Message-ID: At 04:48 PM 7/8/2008, Rick Snover wrote: >There's now also a slideshow on the Conclave web site: >http://www.austinhealeyconclave.org Oops, that's austinhealeyconclave.com >At 04:31 PM 7/8/2008, Linwood H Rose wrote: > >I was hoping that someone would get some Conclave images up! For > >those who weren't able to attend, the photos are just great. Thanks > >for sharing. >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >Healeys at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > >You are subscribed as ricksnover at earthlink.net > >http://www.team.net/archive From ahbn6 at optonline.net Tue Jul 8 18:01:19 2008 From: ahbn6 at optonline.net (John Sims) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:01:19 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Correctly mounted tonneau on BN2 - pictures please.. Message-ID: <01da01c8e156$ea605d00$bf211700$@net> John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: John Sims [mailto:ahbn6 at optonline.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 8:00 PM To: 'Rich C'; 'Tadeusz Malkiewicz'; 'healeys at autox.team.net' Subject: RE: [Healeys] Correctly mounted tonneau on BN2 - pictures please.. OK it is on my site on the Technical page John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: Rich C [mailto:richchrysler at quickclic.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 5:43 PM To: Tadeusz Malkiewicz; healeys at autox.team.net Cc: 'John Sims' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Correctly mounted tonneau on BN2 - pictures please.. Tadeusz, Here are some detail pictures of the later tonneau cover arrangement that began about 1st July 1954. Note that the front corners come forward further than the early ones, and are anchored using turn buttons. Note also the nickel finish on the eyelet that clears the stud for the windscreen steady spring. Also note the tab sewn into the tonneau cover just behind the door that anchors to a turn button. My guess as to the reason for this little tab feature is so the tonneau cover can turn and fold a little better when stowed behind the seats. I'm asking John Sims if he might post this information and pics.on his site. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tadeusz Malkiewicz" To: "'Rich C'" ; Cc: "'John Sims'" Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 2:00 PM Subject: RE: [Healeys] Correctly mounted tonneau on BN2 - pictures please.. From bspidell at comcast.net Tue Jul 8 18:30:15 2008 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:30:15 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Speeds, distances, and odometers. In-Reply-To: <636E17CC-F058-4FB0-BD91-531CF833DFE0@sbcglobal.net> References: <636E17CC-F058-4FB0-BD91-531CF833DFE0@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <48740697.8020001@comcast.net> re: "If your speedo is jumping around then either the cable is to long sticking out into the instrument or the cable is bad." And, if your speedo is stable except for the needle popping up regularly dependent on speed then one of its small nylon gears that drive the odometer or trip meter is cracked. Ask me how I know. bs David Nock wrote: > My Garmin and the odometer in the Healey were 20 miles difference on > the trip to San Diego and back. > > If your speedo is jumping around then either the cable is to long > sticking out into the instrument or the cable is bad. If the end of > the cable sticks out to far it will damage the instrument and it will > need to be re built. > > > David Nock > British Car Specialists > Stockton Ca 95205 > 209-948-8767 > > www.britishcarspecialists.com > ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From tomfelts at windstream.net Tue Jul 8 18:51:11 2008 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (tomfelts at windstream.net) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 20:51:11 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Conclave Photos Message-ID: <20080709005111.ZXNT13398.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> Ditto Mike. for those of us who couldn't go, this is a real treat! tom > > From: Linwood H Rose > Date: 2008/07/08 Tue PM 07:31:38 EDT > To: M Lempert > CC: Healey List > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Conclave Photos > > Hi Mike, > > I was hoping that someone would get some Conclave images up! For those > who weren't able to attend, the photos are just great. > Thanks for sharing. > > Lin Rose > 1960 BT7 "The Bloody Beast" > 1959 AN5 Bugeye > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From kentmclean at comcast.net Tue Jul 8 19:10:12 2008 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:10:12 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] My BN2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48740FF4.2020304@comcast.net> Tadeusz Malkiewicz wrote: > He is most welcome to Poland.. :-) My godson just left for Poland on Saturday as part of a student exchange program. For the next month he'll be teaching English to other high schoolers. He goes to school at Boston College High School in (where else) Boston Massachusetts. Don't ask me where he is in Poland. -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 From richchrysler at quickclic.net Tue Jul 8 19:26:14 2008 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 21:26:14 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Speeds, distances, and odometers. References: <636E17CC-F058-4FB0-BD91-531CF833DFE0@sbcglobal.net> <48740697.8020001@comcast.net> Message-ID: <02a201c8e162$c7ad3100$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> Gentlemen, What is the cause of a speedometer with a perfectly smooth speedometer needle that has an odometer that seems reasonably close, but a trip odometer that is about 20% out? I thought they were driven by the same shaft. This speedo went to Nisonger's for just that problem, but ended up getting (apparently) a full rebuild for $170 and came back with exactly the same problem! Thoughts? Rich Chrysler From f.ronald.rader at gmail.com Tue Jul 8 19:38:36 2008 From: f.ronald.rader at gmail.com (F. Ronald Rader) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 18:38:36 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 3.5 Rearend In-Reply-To: References: <554183.9165.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5caeedb50807081838x4298e794o97043a8b4cc05888@mail.gmail.com> currently owned by Bob Segui, who took best of class last week with his Nash Healey coupe. ron rader 1965 BJ8 1954 Nash Healey no fiestas On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 5:22 AM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > Tom - > > Don't you dare slag off the Fiesta. It was a Healey, once: > > http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/your_garage/cars/625.shtml From msalter at precisionsportscar.com Tue Jul 8 19:48:45 2008 From: msalter at precisionsportscar.com (Michael Salter) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 21:48:45 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Speeds, distances, and odometers. In-Reply-To: <02a201c8e162$c7ad3100$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> References: <636E17CC-F058-4FB0-BD91-531CF833DFE0@sbcglobal.net> <48740697.8020001@comcast.net> <02a201c8e162$c7ad3100$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> Message-ID: <019801c8e165$ed0e6830$c72b3890$@com> As far as I can figure Rich your assumption is absolutely correct. The trip and odometer are driven by the same drive gear train so there should be no difference between their readings. Have you been able to determine which of the trip or the odometer is correct. I might suggest that the tripping lever of the odometer may be a little tight on its pivot so that occasionally it misses a pawl on the ratchet wheel in which case the odometer would read low and the trip should be correct. Michael Salter -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rich C Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 9:26 PM Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Speeds, distances, and odometers. Gentlemen, What is the cause of a speedometer with a perfectly smooth speedometer needle that has an odometer that seems reasonably close, but a trip odometer that is about 20% out? I thought they were driven by the same shaft. This speedo went to Nisonger's for just that problem, but ended up getting (apparently) a full rebuild for $170 and came back with exactly the same problem! Thoughts? Rich Chrysler From MBran89793 at aol.com Tue Jul 8 19:58:25 2008 From: MBran89793 at aol.com (MBran89793 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 21:58:25 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Conclave Photos Message-ID: Great pictures Mike. Just wish I could have been there also. Marion Brantley **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) From sjnnock at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 8 21:36:23 2008 From: sjnnock at sbcglobal.net (Norman Nock) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 20:36:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Speeds, distances, and odometers. In-Reply-To: <02a201c8e162$c7ad3100$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> Message-ID: <657573.1586.qm@web83309.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> ---When a speedometer is sent out to be calibrated you need to give the TPM turns per mile of the speedo cable to the shop , mark out 52.8 feet on a flat surface and count how many times the inner goes around in that distance ( times 100 ) thats the TPM .. BE ACCURATE SEE also A/H Magazine April 1991 OR my Tech Talk Book page 81 .....If your speedo needle is not steady replace the inner cable this might fix your problem, BUT make very sure that the inner cable does not protrude more than 3/8" beyond the end of the outer cable at speedo end ,the ferrule on the inner cable should be 5/16"from the end of the inner cable , this could be made local .. ....See also BMC service bulletin #37 Oct. 1962 OR A/H Mag. June 1996 OR my Tech Talk Book page 149 Norman Nock From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Jul 8 21:43:39 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 11:43:39 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] My BN2 In-Reply-To: <48740FF4.2020304@comcast.net> References: <48740FF4.2020304@comcast.net> Message-ID: Kent - Trust me on this, it wouldn't suprise me one bit if he stays. Poland is a beautiful country with beautiful people, and cheap klobasa and pivo! Cheers, Alan On 7/9/08, Kent McLean wrote: > Tadeusz Malkiewicz wrote: >> He is most welcome to Poland.. :-) > > My godson just left for Poland on Saturday as part of a student > exchange program. For the next month he'll be teaching English > to other high schoolers. He goes to school at Boston College High > School in (where else) Boston Massachusetts. > > Don't ask me where he is in Poland. > > -- > Kent McLean > '56 100 BN2 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Tue Jul 8 22:02:14 2008 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (James Shope) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 21:02:14 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] speedo Message-ID: <023f01c8e178$9272a090$5201a8c0@Jim> i regularly check my speedo with one of those "slow down" signs that register your speed. the max it will register is 45 and my speedo is normally right on or close at 45 but at 65 on the autobahn it is registering about 75 or so. is this common to healeys or am i looking at the second rebuild. healeymanjim From bspidell at comcast.net Tue Jul 8 22:24:52 2008 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:24:52 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Speeds, distances, and odometers. In-Reply-To: <02a201c8e162$c7ad3100$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> References: <636E17CC-F058-4FB0-BD91-531CF833DFE0@sbcglobal.net> <48740697.8020001@comcast.net> <02a201c8e162$c7ad3100$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> Message-ID: <48743D94.2090806@comcast.net> The speedo has a (relatively) large worm gear that is driven by the cable, which drives two smaller gears, one for the trip meter and one for the odometer. It's possible one of the gears is the wrong size, or may be slipping. These two smaller gears (which appear to be nylon) drive eccentrics that cause a lever to push gears on the trip meter and odometer; one of these ratcheting gears may have a problem (or, conceivably, one is the wrong size). When I had my speedo adjusted for a 3.54 rearend, the only apparent change was the size of the two ratcheting gears, which compensated for the (approx.) 11% difference from a 3.91 rearend. bs Rich C wrote: > Gentlemen, > > What is the cause of a speedometer with a perfectly smooth speedometer > needle that has an odometer that seems reasonably close, but a trip odometer > that is about 20% out? I thought they were driven by the same shaft. > > This speedo went to Nisonger's for just that problem, but ended up getting > (apparently) a full rebuild for $170 and came back with exactly the same > problem! > > Thoughts? > > Rich Chrysler > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as bspidell at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From f.ronald.rader at gmail.com Tue Jul 8 22:28:11 2008 From: f.ronald.rader at gmail.com (F. Ronald Rader) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 21:28:11 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Conclave Photos In-Reply-To: <190901c8e14d$376b9d30$6001a8c0@DadsPC> References: <190901c8e14d$376b9d30$6001a8c0@DadsPC> Message-ID: <5caeedb50807082128u2528eb79k90431f80257670e6@mail.gmail.com> great pictures!. i assume that the black and Burgundy was NOT kurt Kvam's car?? ron 1965 BJ8, mike L's rear end On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 3:51 PM, M Lempert wrote: > Hello Healey folks. I've just finished uploading my pictures from Conclave > in San Diego. If anyone can add information to any photos, such as names, > let me know and I'll update the titles. If anyone cares to have a picture > and would like it in the original larger file size, just ask and I'll email. > http://www.pbase.com/mdlempert/sandiego From bspidell at comcast.net Tue Jul 8 22:36:33 2008 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:36:33 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] speedo In-Reply-To: <023f01c8e178$9272a090$5201a8c0@Jim> References: <023f01c8e178$9272a090$5201a8c0@Jim> Message-ID: <48744051.1070304@comcast.net> Hi Jim, Old mechanical speedos like on our Healeys use spinning magnets driven by the cable to "torque" a metallic disc to which the indicator needle is attached. Resistance is provided by a spiral spring (think old watch movements), which gets progressively wound up as the speed increases (so, if anything, you'd think the speedo would indicate low instead of high at higher speeds, but that doesn't seem to be the case usually). As far as I can tell--I've had my speedo apart several times in the last couple months--there is no adjustment to damp or assist the spring. You can "calibrate" the speedo in a fashion by repositioning the indicator on the dial, but you'll change the indication across-the-board (i.e. you might read correct at 65 but read low at 45mph). I suspect the characteristics of the movement spring change with age. If anybody knows of an adjustment to damp or undamp the driven disk I'd appreciate hearing about it. bs James Shope wrote: > i regularly check my speedo with one of those "slow down" signs that register > your speed. the max it will register is 45 and my speedo is normally right on > or close at 45 but at 65 on the autobahn it is registering about 75 or so. > is this common to healeys or am i looking at the second rebuild. > healeymanjim > _______________________________________________ > ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From e-wilkins at cox.net Tue Jul 8 22:53:14 2008 From: e-wilkins at cox.net (Eric (Rick) Wilkins) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 21:53:14 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Conclave Pictures In-Reply-To: <20080706202436.GOAT29060.ispmxmta06-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> References: <20080706202436.GOAT29060.ispmxmta06-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> Message-ID: <68AC63AD-37EB-4C4D-9BDB-60BB85817A1E@cox.net> Hello all, I have been too busy to do any club activities, or even fix/drive my old Healey, but I ran down to the big show Tuesday during my lunch break and took a few pics as I took in the huge scene. Thanks to all involved for putting on what had to be an incredible event. Enjoy, Wilko San Diego From ah3000me at gmail.com Wed Jul 9 04:37:22 2008 From: ah3000me at gmail.com (T W) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 06:37:22 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] 3.5 Rearend In-Reply-To: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D904D49@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> References: <554183.9165.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D904D49@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> Message-ID: You say Festiva, I say Fiesta... But, yes, you're right, it was an early 90's Festiva. - Tom On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Freese, Ken wrote: > Tom, > No such thing as an automatic Fiesta. You must be thinking of a Festiva. > Very different animals. > Ken Freese > 78 Fiesta > 65 BJ8 > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces+ken.freese=aerojet.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces+ken.freese = > aerojet.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf > Of T W > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 3:46 AM > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3.5 Rearend > > It's gotta be better than the early 90's automatic Ford Fiesta that my > wife and I rented when we were out in the Tetons. > > - Tom From medlabinc at msn.com Wed Jul 9 06:20:19 2008 From: medlabinc at msn.com (Dick Matson) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 05:20:19 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] GPS Message-ID: In addition to the map, distance to next turn, time in route can ie Garmin GPS screens show selectable other information simultaneously - like compass heading and current speed. Dick Matson / Bj8 / Cashmere, WA From cleona44 at hotmail.com Wed Jul 9 06:21:49 2008 From: cleona44 at hotmail.com (Jim Lesher) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 08:21:49 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Conclave Photos In-Reply-To: <190901c8e14d$376b9d30$6001a8c0@DadsPC> References: <190901c8e14d$376b9d30$6001a8c0@DadsPC> Message-ID: Mike - Great photos!!! Sorry I could not make the trip. I hope to see you again in Canada in 2009. jim lesher > From: mlempert at bellsouth.net > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 18:51:52 -0400 > Subject: [Healeys] Conclave Photos > > Hello Healey folks. I've just finished uploading my pictures from Conclave > in San Diego. If anyone can add information to any photos, such as names, > let me know and I'll update the titles. If anyone cares to have a picture > and would like it in the original larger file size, just ask and I'll email. > http://www.pbase.com/mdlempert/sandiego > > Regards, > Mike Lempert > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as cleona44 at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_ Refresh_messenger_video_072008 From coll44 at msn.com Wed Jul 9 06:38:45 2008 From: coll44 at msn.com (TERRY COLL) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 08:38:45 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] service questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sorry to bother all with questions but having trouble accessing archives. Changing the gearbox/OD oil in a BJ8 and want to know if center console has to come out to get to the dipstick. Also, as I have the notched type of OD drain plug I'm wondering if there are any tricks to removing it as I'm reluctant to proceed with the hammer/blunt instrument method. Thanks, Terry Coll '64 BJ8 From jculphealey at yahoo.com Wed Jul 9 06:42:14 2008 From: jculphealey at yahoo.com (Jim Culp) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 05:42:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Conclave Photos In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <80728.98657.qm@web46303.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Slight correction- the Conclave website is actually: http://www.austinhealeyconclave.com --- On Tue, 7/8/08, Rick Snover wrote: From: Rick Snover Subject: Re: [Healeys] Conclave Photos To: healeys at autox.team.net Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 11:48 PM There's now also a slideshow on the Conclave web site: http://www.austinhealeyconclave.org At 04:31 PM 7/8/2008, Linwood H Rose wrote: >I was hoping that someone would get some Conclave images up! For >those who weren't able to attend, the photos are just great. Thanks >for sharing. Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as jculphealey at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive From bighealey at charter.net Wed Jul 9 06:49:00 2008 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 05:49:00 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Too much of a good thing? No way! Message-ID: <003001c8e1c2$29342f50$1002a8c0@TRACY> Too much of a good thing? No way! http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/Article.aspx/720212/?UserKey=0 Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! President AHCUSA www.healey.org From jcapezzuti at aol.com Wed Jul 9 06:49:08 2008 From: jcapezzuti at aol.com (Jeff Capezzuti) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 08:49:08 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Conclave 2009?? In-Reply-To: <5caeedb50807082128u2528eb79k90431f80257670e6@mail.gmail.com> References: <190901c8e14d$376b9d30$6001a8c0@DadsPC> <5caeedb50807082128u2528eb79k90431f80257670e6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001401c8e1c2$2decd560$6801a8c0@PC130022056027> Does anyone know where / when Conclave 2009 going to be held?? Thanks! Jeff '63BJ7 From msalter at precisionsportscar.com Wed Jul 9 06:54:04 2008 From: msalter at precisionsportscar.com (Michael Salter) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 08:54:04 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] service questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <004801c8e1c2$de8f56e0$9bae04a0$@com> Hi Terry, the dipstick can be accessed beneath the rectangular rubber plug which is just forward of the console on the upper surface of the tunnel. Sometimes it takes a bit of a pull to get the dipstick out. I made a special tool for removing the overdrive drain plug but I believe one is available from British Too however their site is down at present. Michael Salter -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of TERRY COLL Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 8:39 AM To: AustinHealey List Subject: [Healeys] service questions Sorry to bother all with questions but having trouble accessing archives. Changing the gearbox/OD oil in a BJ8 and want to know if center console has to come out to get to the dipstick. Also, as I have the notched type of OD drain plug I'm wondering if there are any tricks to removing it as I'm reluctant to proceed with the hammer/blunt instrument method. Thanks, Terry Coll '64 BJ8 From caws52803 at aol.com Wed Jul 9 06:54:52 2008 From: caws52803 at aol.com (caws52803 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 08:54:52 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Conclave 2009?? In-Reply-To: <001401c8e1c2$2decd560$6801a8c0@PC130022056027> References: <190901c8e14d$376b9d30$6001a8c0@DadsPC> <5caeedb50807082128u2528eb79k90431f80257670e6@mail.gmail.com> <001401c8e1c2$2decd560$6801a8c0@PC130022056027> Message-ID: <8CAAFDA1D0FAACA-1274-91D@WEBMAIL-MB01.sysops.aol.com> Conclave 2009 Year of the Loyalist Kingston, Ontario, Canada June 21 - 26, 2009 This was available on the AHCA website. Rudy Streng Lenoir, NC -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Capezzuti To: 'Healey List' Sent: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 8:49 am Subject: [Healeys] Conclave 2009?? Does anyone know where / when Conclave 2009 going to be held?? Thanks! Jeff '63BJ7 Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as caws52803 at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive From rdickson at midwestarchaeology.com Wed Jul 9 06:58:29 2008 From: rdickson at midwestarchaeology.com (Randy Dickson) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 07:58:29 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] dash top padding question In-Reply-To: References: <48740FF4.2020304@comcast.net> Message-ID: <000001c8e1c3$7cbecad0$763c6070$@com> Fellow Healeyoids, I got a kit from Heritage and I'm in the process of putting the dashtop on my 63 BJ7. Does the 1/4" foam go all of the way over the half round rubber front of the dash top and glue under the dash top? When I took my old one apart the foam appeared to go over the half rounded rubber front but the dash had been redone by the PO at least once. Thanks! Healey-Archaeologist Randy 63 BJ7 66 Cobra replica 06 Mini Cooper S From jcapezzuti at aol.com Wed Jul 9 07:19:12 2008 From: jcapezzuti at aol.com (Jeff Capezzuti) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 09:19:12 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Conclave 2009?? In-Reply-To: <8CAAFDA1D0FAACA-1274-91D@WEBMAIL-MB01.sysops.aol.com> References: <190901c8e14d$376b9d30$6001a8c0@DadsPC> <5caeedb50807082128u2528eb79k90431f80257670e6@mail.gmail.com> <001401c8e1c2$2decd560$6801a8c0@PC130022056027> <8CAAFDA1D0FAACA-1274-91D@WEBMAIL-MB01.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <001801c8e1c6$61388f50$6801a8c0@PC130022056027> Thanks!!!! _____ From: caws52803 at aol.com [mailto:caws52803 at aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 8:55 AM To: jcapezzuti at aol.com; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Conclave 2009?? Conclave 2009 Year of the Loyalist Kingston, Ontario, Canada June 21 - 26, 2009 This was available on the AHCA website. Rudy Streng Lenoir, NC -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Capezzuti To: 'Healey List' Sent: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 8:49 am Subject: [Healeys] Conclave 2009?? Does anyone know where / when Conclave 2009 going to be held?? Thanks! Jeff '63BJ7 Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as caws52803 at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive _____ The Famous, the infamous, the lame - in your browser. Get the TMZ Toolbar Now! From jimf at frakes-eng.com Wed Jul 9 07:39:28 2008 From: jimf at frakes-eng.com (Frakes, Jim) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 09:39:28 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Nasty Boy ebay item 170232939570 Message-ID: After on-site inspection, I refused to complete this transaction as the product was not as advertised. It will be re-listed. Buyer beware. Email me if you want a report. Office 317-577-3000 x 224 Cell 317-697-6441 email: jimf at frakes-eng.com Jim Frakes CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and it may contain information that is privileged or confidential. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient (or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us by telephone at the number listed above or by return e-mail. From coll44 at msn.com Wed Jul 9 08:28:27 2008 From: coll44 at msn.com (TERRY COLL) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 10:28:27 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] service questions In-Reply-To: <004801c8e1c2$de8f56e0$9bae04a0$@com> References: <004801c8e1c2$de8f56e0$9bae04a0$@com> Message-ID: Thanks Michael!!! Most appreciated! Terry Coll '64 BJ8> From: msalter at precisionsportscar.com> To: coll44 at msn.com; healeys at autox.team.net> Subject: RE: [Healeys] service questions> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 08:54:04 -0400> > Hi Terry, the dipstick can be accessed beneath the rectangular rubber plug> which is just forward of the console on the upper surface of the tunnel.> Sometimes it takes a bit of a pull to get the dipstick out.> I made a special tool for removing the overdrive drain plug but I believe> one is available from British Too however their site is down at present.> Michael Salter> > -----Original Message-----> From: healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net> [mailto:healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net] On> Behalf Of TERRY COLL> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 8:39 AM> To: AustinHealey List> Subject: [Healeys] service questions> > Sorry to bother all with questions but having trouble accessing archives.> Changing the gearbox/OD oil in a BJ8 and want to know if center console has> to> come out to get to the dipstick. Also, as I have the notched type of OD> drain> plug I'm wondering if there are any tricks to removing it as I'm reluctant> to> proceed with the hammer/blunt instrument method.> > Thanks, Terry Coll '64 BJ8> From bj7healey at gto.net Wed Jul 9 09:55:44 2008 From: bj7healey at gto.net (bj7healey at gto.net) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 11:55:44 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] [Healy] Conclave 2009?? References: <190901c8e14d$376b9d30$6001a8c0@DadsPC><5caeedb50807082128u2528eb79k90431f80257670e6@mail.gmail.com> <001401c8e1c2$2decd560$6801a8c0@PC130022056027> Message-ID: <773A25A718B541A5B274838E2E4B6744@bobsus> Hi everyone Its in Kingston, Ontario, Canada The website is www,conclave09.com and is up and running with some changes to follow. Bob Slater 1963, BJ7 Webmaster -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeff Capezzuti" Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 8:49 AM To: "'Healey List'" Subject: [Healeys] Conclave 2009?? > Does anyone know where / when Conclave 2009 going to be held?? > > Thanks! > > Jeff > '63BJ7 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as bj7healey at gto.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From mayorrichard at hotmail.com Wed Jul 9 10:07:38 2008 From: mayorrichard at hotmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 16:07:38 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Toyota 5 speed question Message-ID: Does anyone know what the ratio is of 5th gear in the Toyota 5 speed that is used in the healey conversions? That is, what is the overdrive ratio? I have heard that Supra transmissions work as well as the 2 wheel drive pickup truck transmissions. Are they the same, or do they have different ratios? Inquiring minds want to know. Richard _________________________________________________________________ Making the world a better place one message at a time. http://www.imtalkathon.com/?source=EML_WLH_Talkathon_BetterPlace From JNBrashear at garverengineers.com Wed Jul 9 10:21:18 2008 From: JNBrashear at garverengineers.com (Brashear, Jack, N) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 11:21:18 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Toyota 5 speed question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603F547E2@glitas07.garverinc.local> Hi Richard. There are several different ratios depending on the transmission's original use. Mine is a W58 from a mid-80's Supra and the OD ratio is 22 percent. Jack -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+jnbrashear=garverengineers.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+jnbrashear=garverengineers.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of richard mayor Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:08 AM To: healeys Subject: [Healeys] Toyota 5 speed question Does anyone know what the ratio is of 5th gear in the Toyota 5 speed that is used in the healey conversions? That is, what is the overdrive ratio? I have heard that Supra transmissions work as well as the 2 wheel drive pickup truck transmissions. Are they the same, or do they have different ratios? Inquiring minds want to know. Richard From fortee9er at yahoo.com Wed Jul 9 10:38:19 2008 From: fortee9er at yahoo.com (Jorge Garcia) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 09:38:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Rear disk brake caliper adapters Message-ID: <931062.88037.qm@web54504.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I am having rear disk brake caliper adapters fabricated for me by a local machine shop. The machine shop told me that if I was to order 10 sets or more sets the price (per set) would go down significantly. If anyone is interested in a set of caliper adapters please contact me off-line. BTW the donor calipers would be from a Jaguar XJ6/XJS. Thanks Jorge Garcia '65 BJ8 From dwflagg at juno.com Wed Jul 9 11:11:03 2008 From: dwflagg at juno.com (dwflagg at juno.com) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 17:11:03 GMT Subject: [Healeys] Toyota 5 speed question Message-ID: <20080709.131103.910.0@webmail06.dca.untd.com> Why????????????? ____________________________________________________________ Keep your home running smoothly with great home automation solutions! Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nAIn8ngXH3xfiFbMC2fDZ2bMPy SYrYc4D3r8ofR2yRyrUoc/ From tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl Wed Jul 9 12:27:45 2008 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:27:45 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Speeds, distances, and odometers Message-ID: <002101c8e1f1$7bee6c90$0300a8c0@tm4> Rich, Please see attached file on Smiths speedometers. It was written by Anthony Rhodes and is very helpful. I did at some point repair my Volvo (Smiths) speedo, and remember there were two 'tongues' (or whatever they are called) turning the wheels of two odometers. One of the wheels might be have smaller no. of teeth.. The setup is clearly visible on picture 19. The two wheels on two odometers are visible on picture 17. Does this help?.. Please feel free to forward this file to John Sims for his website, I think my mails do not reach him, as my server is crap. Thanks, Tadek [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a name of speedo.pdf] From tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl Wed Jul 9 12:30:18 2008 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:30:18 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] My BN2 Message-ID: <002501c8e1f1$d6c5bbf0$0300a8c0@tm4> Well, I second this opinion - I like it here very much.. :-) Kent, you should find out where he is.. Tadek Message: 7 Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 11:43:39 +0800 From: "Alan Seigrist" Subject: Re: [Healeys] My BN2 To: "Kent McLean" , healeys at autox.team.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Kent - Trust me on this, it wouldn't suprise me one bit if he stays. Poland is a beautiful country with beautiful people, and cheap klobasa and pivo! Cheers, Alan From alan.bromfield at virgin.net Wed Jul 9 13:05:43 2008 From: alan.bromfield at virgin.net (Alan Bromfield) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 20:05:43 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Toyota 5 speed question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00da01c8e1f6$ca81fca0$6601a8c0@Dell> Hi Richard...... This might be more than youu needed to know Quick answer: Toyota overdrive = 0.85:1 which is equivalent to 17% Standard Healey overdrives are 22% (0.82:1) or 28% (0.78:1) Longer answer: Pickup 5 speed Ratios: First Gear: 3.566:1 Second Gear: 2.056:1 Third Gear: 1.384:1 Fourth Gear: 1.00:1 Fifth Gear: 0.85:1 Reverse: -4.091:1 Applications: 1982-1983 Toyota Carina 1982-1985 Toyota Celica 1983 Toyota Corona 1986 Toyota Soarer 1986 Toyota Crown 1983 Toyota Chaser 1984-1988 Toyota Pickup 2WD with 22RE(EFI) engine 2002-2005 Lexus IS300 (US Market only) Supra Ratios: First Gear: 3.285:1 Second Gear: 1.894:1 Third Gear: 1.275:1 Fourth Gear: 1.00:1 Fifth Gear: 0.783:1 Reverse: -3.768:1 Applications: 1982-1986 Toyota MK 2 Celica Supra 1986-1992 Toyota MK 3 non-turbo Supra 1993-1998 Toyota MK 4 non-turbo Supra 1986 Toyota Cressida 1986 Toyota Soarer 1982-1985 Toyota Celica 1982-1992 Lotus Excel Enjoy......... _______________________________________________ (______________ Alan Bromfield _______________) (______ \__1957-BN4 x 2__/ _______) (______www.nfahc.co.uk____) -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+alan.bromfield=virgin.net at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+alan.bromfield=virgin.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of richard mayor Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 5:08 PM To: healeys Subject: [Healeys] Toyota 5 speed question Does anyone know what the ratio is of 5th gear in the Toyota 5 speed that is used in the healey conversions? That is, what is the overdrive ratio? I have heard that Supra transmissions work as well as the 2 wheel drive pickup truck transmissions. Are they the same, or do they have different ratios? Inquiring minds want to know. Richard From Awgertoo at aol.com Wed Jul 9 13:11:03 2008 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 15:11:03 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Toyota 5 speed question Message-ID: Go here: _http://users.tpg.com.au/users/loats/technical/ma61/gearboxes.html_ (http://users.tpg.com.au/users/loats/technical/ma61/gearboxes.html) Best--Michael Oritt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - In a message dated 7/9/2008 12:08:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mayorrichard at hotmail.com writes: Does anyone know what the ratio is of 5th gear in the Toyota 5 speed that is used in the healey conversions? **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) From npaul72464 at aol.com Wed Jul 9 13:22:35 2008 From: npaul72464 at aol.com (npaul72464 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:22:35 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] GPS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CAB0104720146B-4D4-251D@mblk-d39.sysops.aol.com> Yes, they do display the direction (I put N pointing up) and speed.? I just bought a Garmin Nuvi 350 because it's very well rated and fits well on the little car. Ned Paulsen 1960 BN7 1958 TR3 -----Original Message----- From: Dick Matson To: AustinHealey List Sent: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 8:20 am Subject: [Healeys] GPS In addition to the map, distance to next turn, time in route can ie Garmin GPS screens show selectable other information simultaneously - like compass heading and current speed. Dick Matson / Bj8 / Cashmere, WA Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as npaul72464 at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive From 62bt7 at prodigy.net Wed Jul 9 13:22:51 2008 From: 62bt7 at prodigy.net (62bt7) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 12:22:51 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 3.5 Rearend / Healey-Fiesta References: <554183.9165.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <5caeedb50807081838x4298e794o97043a8b4cc05888@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <023701c8e1f9$30e1f480$a536480c@kirkgrbymz8g9u> Bob sold it some time ago to raise funds for purchase of the Hash-Healey. Kirk Kvam ----- Original Message ----- From: "F. Ronald Rader" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3.5 Rearend > currently owned by Bob Segui, who took best of class last week with > his Nash Healey coupe. > ron rader > 1965 BJ8 > 1954 Nash Healey > no fiestas > > On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 5:22 AM, Alan Seigrist > wrote: >> Tom - >> >> Don't you dare slag off the Fiesta. It was a Healey, once: >> >> http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/your_garage/cars/625.shtml > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as 62bt7 at prodigy.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From price at advocateadvisors.com Wed Jul 9 13:31:37 2008 From: price at advocateadvisors.com (price at advocateadvisors.com) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 19:31:37 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] BJ 8 Water Pump Rebuild Message-ID: <4509970-1215631877-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-225139054-@bxe126.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Who besides World Auto out of Madison,WI rebuilds water pumps? Thank you. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From jwbn6 at verizon.net Wed Jul 9 13:34:29 2008 From: jwbn6 at verizon.net (jerry wall) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 14:34:29 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Healeys] BJ 8 Water Pump Rebuild Message-ID: <1924853.1141411215632069789.JavaMail.root@vms125.mailsrvcs.net> =i go my spare from bill bolton -- tricarb at aol.com cheers, jerry wall ==================== From: price at advocateadvisors.com Date: 2008/07/09 Wed PM 02:31:37 CDT To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] BJ 8 Water Pump Rebuild Who besides World Auto out of Madison,WI rebuilds water pumps? Thank you. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as jwbn6 at verizon.net http://www.team.net/archive JERRY WALL BN6 ROWLETT, TX From Awgertoo at aol.com Wed Jul 9 13:46:43 2008 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 15:46:43 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Toyota Gearbox info Message-ID: Here's another site with info on which box to--and not to--get. Best--Michael Oritt _http://users.tpg.com.au/users/loats/technical/ma61/gearboxes2.html_ (http://users.tpg.com.au/users/loats/technical/ma61/gearboxes2.html) **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) From mike.vasquez at gmail.com Wed Jul 9 15:03:04 2008 From: mike.vasquez at gmail.com (Mike Vasquez) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 14:03:04 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: [Spridgets] Big Healey long shot. In-Reply-To: <487525D9.1020606@b2systems.com> References: <487525D9.1020606@b2systems.com> Message-ID: <28f529ba0807091403i2f105649p3a794642352e9aa3@mail.gmail.com> Anyone able to help Mike out? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mike Rambour Date: Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 1:55 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Big Healey long shot. To: Spridgeteers Does anyone have a 100-4 brake master cylinder that they could take some measurements for me ? or better yet close by so I can compare ? I know there is a big healey list but I am on too many lists already so thought I would ask here before joining another list. One of our members needs a master cylinder for his Singer and the 100-4 cylinder looks identical but there is some discussion if the piston size is the same. I am talking about part 7-076 on this page http://www.victoriabritish.com/Features/AH/AHBR1.htm. I have seen the 2 together and I know the bolt holes are easily with a 1/4" of each other, I could not compare that closely but its close, its just the internal diameter that is the concern. mike You are subscribed as mike.vasquez at gmail.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From 62bt7 at prodigy.net Wed Jul 9 16:00:51 2008 From: 62bt7 at prodigy.net (62bt7) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 15:00:51 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Conclave Photos References: <190901c8e14d$376b9d30$6001a8c0@DadsPC> <5caeedb50807082128u2528eb79k90431f80257670e6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001a01c8e20f$43709e60$bb35480c@kirkgrbymz8g9u> BN-2, belongs to Don Southworth of Cucamonga, CA. Don fell in love with my BT-7 paint scheme back in the 90's, he asked to copy it, thinking it would bring some attention to his car, appears it did :-)) Kirk Kvam ----- Original Message ----- From: "F. Ronald Rader" To: "Healey List" Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Conclave Photos > great pictures!. > i assume that the black and Burgundy was NOT kurt Kvam's car?? > ron > 1965 BJ8, > mike L's rear end > > On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 3:51 PM, M Lempert wrote: >> Hello Healey folks. I've just finished uploading my pictures from >> Conclave >> in San Diego. If anyone can add information to any photos, such as >> names, >> let me know and I'll update the titles. If anyone cares to have a >> picture >> and would like it in the original larger file size, just ask and I'll >> email. >> http://www.pbase.com/mdlempert/sandiego > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as 62bt7 at prodigy.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From bighealey at charter.net Wed Jul 9 16:14:00 2008 From: bighealey at charter.net (bighealey at charter.net) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 18:14:00 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] 3.5 Rearend / Healey-Fiesta In-Reply-To: <023701c8e1f9$30e1f480$a536480c@kirkgrbymz8g9u> Message-ID: <20080709181400.L3N8G.327754.root@fepweb11> Kirk, The Hash Healey is a far out ride baby. Cool red. I dug the Fiesta but the Hashter is the bomb. Tune up, Down Shift and Turn on the Overdrive. Peace out. ---- 62bt7 <62bt7 at prodigy.net> wrote: > Bob sold it some time ago to raise funds for purchase of the Hash-Healey. > > Kirk Kvam > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "F. Ronald Rader" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 6:38 PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3.5 Rearend > > > > currently owned by Bob Segui, who took best of class last week with > > his Nash Healey coupe. > > ron rader > > 1965 BJ8 > > 1954 Nash Healey > > no fiestas > > > > On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 5:22 AM, Alan Seigrist > > wrote: > >> Tom - > >> > >> Don't you dare slag off the Fiesta. It was a Healey, once: > >> > >> http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/your_garage/cars/625.shtml > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > You are subscribed as 62bt7 at prodigy.net > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as bighealey at charter.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From Editorgary at aol.com Wed Jul 9 17:05:56 2008 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 19:05:56 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Free ZDDPlus Message-ID: Roger Moment get an email circular today from Eastwood Company, advertising that they will include a $9.99 bottle of ZDDPlus with any order of $75 or more. I think this is the same product that Moss now has available in their catalog. An informal and highly unscientific survey of various long-distance Healey drivers at the San Diego meet suggests that most are simply specifying 20W50 oil when they do their oil changes if their engine is well broken-in, and no one seems to be having any problems. My theory is that either the typical 20W50 still has enough ZDDP in it to provide ongoing protection, and/or that broken-in engines don't really need much zinc. Cheers Gary ************** Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) From qualitas.jack at gmail.com Wed Jul 9 17:19:11 2008 From: qualitas.jack at gmail.com (Jack Feldman) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 18:19:11 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Proper Thermostat for a BT7? Message-ID: <48720d20807091619s67f8450cy91b75307a4eaab65@mail.gmail.com> Somewhere I read that the 3000 takes a special thermostat. I asked a representative of a LBC repair shop and he confirmed the information and gave me two part numbers. There were Stant 13358, and 13008. I went to my local NAPA store and they translated those part numbers into NAPA 169, and 170. Both of those thermostats looked exactly alike, and both were 180 degree thermostats. The were so much alike I'm not even sure I got the correct part in the appropriate box. When I looked at them out of the box they just looked like any old thermostat. Do we really need a special thermostat? If the part numbers that were given to me are correct, what is special about these thermostats? My MGC has a special thermostat, but the difference is obvious. Thanks, Jack From sbyers at ec.rr.com Wed Jul 9 17:26:03 2008 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8 Healeys) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 19:26:03 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Free ZDDPlus Message-ID: <26135266.1269841215645963483.JavaMail.root@cdptpa-web23-z02> If you believe the info on the ZDDPlus website, one bottle of the stuff is not enough for a 7-quart 3000 engine oil change. The bottle is sized for a typical 4-quart plus 1-quart-for-the-filter oil change. One bottle is 4 ounces, and to reach the zinc and phosporus levels ZDDPlus recommends 7 quarts requires 5.6 ounces (0.8 ounces per quart). Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC ---- Editorgary at aol.com wrote: > Roger Moment get an email circular today from Eastwood Company, advertising > that they will include a $9.99 bottle of ZDDPlus with any order of $75 or more. > I think this is the same product that Moss now has available in their > catalog. > An informal and highly unscientific survey of various long-distance Healey > drivers at the San Diego meet suggests that most are simply specifying 20W50 oil > when they do their oil changes if their engine is well broken-in, and no one > seems to be having any problems. My theory is that either the typical 20W50 > still has enough ZDDP in it to provide ongoing protection, and/or that broken-in > engines don't really need much zinc. > Cheers > Gary From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 9 17:39:22 2008 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 16:39:22 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Proper Thermostat for a BT7? In-Reply-To: <48720d20807091619s67f8450cy91b75307a4eaab65@mail.gmail.com> References: <48720d20807091619s67f8450cy91b75307a4eaab65@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <004EDC13-763B-4EC4-8742-5DDFA99F101E@sbcglobal.net> Neither one of these it the correct one for a Healey. The Healey requires a sleeved thermostat and they are not available at any of your local parts houses. There needs to be a sleeve that closes off the water bypass in the head. The MGC has a bypass on the bottom that is closed off when the thermostat opens. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Jul 9, 2008, at 4:19 PM, Jack Feldman wrote: > Somewhere I read that the 3000 takes a special thermostat. I asked a > representative of a LBC repair shop and he confirmed the > information and > gave me two part numbers. There were Stant 13358, and 13008. I went > to my > local NAPA store and they translated those part numbers into NAPA > 169, and > 170. Both of those thermostats looked exactly alike, and both were 180 > degree thermostats. The were so much alike I'm not even sure I got the > correct part in the appropriate box. > > When I looked at them out of the box they just looked like any old > thermostat. > > Do we really need a special thermostat? If the part numbers that > were given > to me are correct, what is special about these thermostats? > > My MGC has a special thermostat, but the difference is obvious. > > Thanks, > > Jack > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From healeybruce at roadrunner.com Wed Jul 9 18:12:03 2008 From: healeybruce at roadrunner.com (Healey Bruce) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 17:12:03 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] DMH Award References: <25633446.1215450777047.JavaMail.root@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <004b01c8e221$9519bff0$9101a8c0@home> That would be the AH Association (Southern CA) for the greatest percentage of those in attendance participating in Conclave events. Bruce Steele Vice President, AHA 1960 BN7 Brea, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "John H" To: Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 10:12 AM Subject: [Healeys] DMH Award > Those who went to Conclave: > > Who won the DMH Commemorative Award at Conclave? > > ....and congratulations to the Chapter that did!! > > TIA > > John Homonek > President, Atlanta Chapter AHCA > 1959 BN7 - 1960 AN5 - 1974 Jensen-Healey > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeybruce at roadrunner.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 9 18:42:25 2008 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 20:42:25 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] service questions References: Message-ID: <001201c8e225$d3321040$7525e046@markl946cfrd7q> Terry, Any older hardware store that has descent old stock will be able to help you. Draw a picture of the drain plug or take a cell phone picture of it and show the hardware guy. They should have a "floor drain trap cover wrench " that should work fine. There are different versions but I saw one last week at my Hardware store that was under 10.00, easily. There was a picture going around the list of one type, if I find it in my archives I will email it. You may visit John Simms web page , you never know what my be hiding there. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "TERRY COLL" To: "AustinHealey List" Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 8:38 AM Subject: [Healeys] service questions > Sorry to bother all with questions but having trouble accessing archives. > Changing the gearbox/OD oil in a BJ8 and want to know if center console > has to > come out to get to the dipstick. Also, as I have the notched type of OD > drain > plug I'm wondering if there are any tricks to removing it as I'm reluctant > to > proceed with the hammer/blunt instrument method. > > Thanks, Terry Coll '64 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as lapierrem at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From tomfelts at windstream.net Wed Jul 9 18:44:29 2008 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (tomfelts at windstream.net) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 20:44:29 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Free ZDDPlus Message-ID: <20080710004429.ONCX13398.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> I'm confised. If Val 20/50 VR1 Racing oil contains sufficient ZDDP, why all the fuss over adding this stuff? I am assuming val does contain enough--------? Tom > > From: Editorgary at aol.com > Date: 2008/07/09 Wed PM 07:05:56 EDT > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] Free ZDDPlus > > Roger Moment get an email circular today from Eastwood Company, advertising > that they will include a $9.99 bottle of ZDDPlus with any order of $75 or more. > I think this is the same product that Moss now has available in their > catalog. > An informal and highly unscientific survey of various long-distance Healey > drivers at the San Diego meet suggests that most are simply specifying 20W50 oil > when they do their oil changes if their engine is well broken-in, and no one > seems to be having any problems. My theory is that either the typical 20W50 > still has enough ZDDP in it to provide ongoing protection, and/or that broken-in > engines don't really need much zinc. > Cheers > Gary > > > ************** > Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live > music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! > > (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From gbrierton at hotmail.com Wed Jul 9 18:47:20 2008 From: gbrierton at hotmail.com (gary brierton) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 20:47:20 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] DMH Award In-Reply-To: <25633446.1215450777047.JavaMail.root@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <004b01c8e221$9519bff0$9101a8c0@home> References: <25633446.1215450777047.JavaMail.root@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <004b01c8e221$9519bff0$9101a8c0@home> Message-ID: Congrats to you guys (& gals)! Gary B -------------------------------------------------- From: "Healey Bruce" Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 8:12 PM To: "John H" ; Subject: Re: [Healeys] DMH Award > That would be the AH Association (Southern CA) for the greatest percentage > of those in attendance participating in Conclave events. > > Bruce Steele > Vice President, AHA > 1960 BN7 > Brea, CA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John H" > To: > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 10:12 AM > Subject: [Healeys] DMH Award > > >> Those who went to Conclave: >> >> Who won the DMH Commemorative Award at Conclave? >> >> ....and congratulations to the Chapter that did!! >> >> TIA >> >> John Homonek >> President, Atlanta Chapter AHCA >> 1959 BN7 - 1960 AN5 - 1974 Jensen-Healey >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as healeybruce at roadrunner.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as gbrierton at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 9 18:59:33 2008 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 20:59:33 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BJ 8 Water Pump Rebuild References: <4509970-1215631877-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-225139054-@bxe126.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <003501c8e228$384b5750$7525e046@markl946cfrd7q> Word from the list was to try a tractor or farm machinery rebuilder cause that is where the pumps got there roots. And Billy Bob probably won't charge you half as much. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 3:31 PM Subject: [Healeys] BJ 8 Water Pump Rebuild > Who besides World Auto out of Madison,WI rebuilds water pumps? > > Thank you. > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as lapierrem at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From mgcharlie at comcast.net Wed Jul 9 19:03:13 2008 From: mgcharlie at comcast.net (Charlie Baldwin) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 21:03:13 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Toyota 5 speed question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48755FD1.9070906@comcast.net> Richard, Here's a site that tells you what all of the ratios are. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_W_transmission Charlie Baldwin richard mayor wrote: > Does anyone know what the ratio is of 5th gear in the Toyota 5 speed that is > used in the healey conversions? That is, what is the overdrive ratio? I have > heard that Supra transmissions work as well as the 2 wheel drive pickup truck > transmissions. Are they the same, or do they have different ratios? Inquiring > minds want to know. Richard > _________________________________________________________________ > Making the world a better place one message at a time. > http://www.imtalkathon.com/?source=EML_WLH_Talkathon_BetterPlace > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as mgcharlie at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of mgcharlie.vcf] From healey at salisbury.net Wed Jul 9 19:25:36 2008 From: healey at salisbury.net (healey) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 01:25:36 GMT Subject: [Healeys] DMH Award Message-ID: <200807092125734.SM01884@[166.82.136.9]> The DMH award is awarded to one of the chapters who have at least 6 registrations and participation and award positions are counted for each event including distance traveled. The Association od Southern California won the DMH. The clubs that were in the chase were Association, Golden Gate, Cascade and The Carolinas. The Host club is not included in the contest. The second award is given to that club which has the highest percentage of their on role membership attending conclave. That club was the roadrunner club from New Mexico. They had 5 of 15 members in attendance. Carl Brown President AHCA -----Original Message----- From: "Healey Bruce" Sent 7/9/2008 8:12:03 PM To: "John H" , healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] DMH AwardThat would be the AH Association (Southern CA) for the greatest percentage of those in attendance participating in Conclave events. Bruce Steele Vice President, AHA 1960 BN7 Brea, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "John H" To: Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 10:12 AM Subject: [Healeys] DMH Award > Those who went to Conclave: > > Who won the DMH Commemorative Award at Conclave? > > ....and congratulations to the Chapter that did!! > > TIA > > John Homonek > President, Atlanta Chapter AHCA > 1959 BN7 - 1960 AN5 - 1974 Jensen-Healey > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeybruce at roadrunner.com > > http://www.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as healey at salisbury.net http://www.team.net/archive From Wilkmanracing at aol.com Wed Jul 9 19:33:29 2008 From: Wilkmanracing at aol.com (Wilkmanracing at aol.com) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 21:33:29 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Correct Two Tone for 1961 BT7 Message-ID: My 1961 BT7 is in line for a restoration and I've been mulling over possible colors. The car was originally all Old English White, but I'd like to give it a bit of pazazz by using the original color with the coves in a contrasting color. I would like the color combo to be correct for the car and, hence, my question. Was white with black coves a stock color combination for the 1961 BT7? Bill Wilkman **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) From rafaelabugattas at yahoo.es Wed Jul 9 19:58:53 2008 From: rafaelabugattas at yahoo.es (Rafael Abugattas) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 20:58:53 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Correct Two Tone for 1961 BT7 References: Message-ID: <002101c8e230$84f05670$1401a8c0@RAbugattas> Hi Bill, I am in exactly the same situation. I have a 62 BT7 Tricarb that was originally OEW with black interior. I am also planning to take it back to its original color but with the coves in black. Look at the following site: http://www.austinhealey.com/big.html Look into the Healey Catalog section, select 1961 MKII and search for the "IVORY WHITE over BLACK" combination. According to it, seems it was an original combination for our cars. Best, Rafael ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 8:33 PM Subject: [Healeys] Correct Two Tone for 1961 BT7 > My 1961 BT7 is in line for a restoration and I've been mulling over > possible > colors. The car was originally all Old English White, but I'd like to > give > it a bit of pazazz by using the original color with the coves in a > contrasting color. I would like the color combo to be correct for the car > and, hence, > my question. Was white with black coves a stock color combination for > the > 1961 BT7? > > Bill Wilkman > > > > **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live > music > scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! > (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as rafaelabugattas at yahoo.es > > http://www.team.net/archive > ______________________________________________ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y msviles desde 1 cintimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com From ronald-ray at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 9 20:12:46 2008 From: ronald-ray at sbcglobal.net (Ronald J. Ray) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 21:12:46 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Correct Two Tone for 1961 BT7 In-Reply-To: <002101c8e230$84f05670$1401a8c0@RAbugattas> Message-ID: Rafael and Bill, Page 89 of the Anderson/Moment book confirms that Ivory White/Black was an original paint offering for BN4, BN6, BN7, and BT7. According to PPG/ICI, Ivory White was a current paint color up to at least 2001 for the Austin Rover. The PPG code is 91212 Ron June 1959 BT7 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+ronald-ray=sbcglobal.net at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+ronald-ray=sbcglobal.net at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Rafael Abugattas Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 8:59 PM To: Wilkmanracing at aol.com Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Correct Two Tone for 1961 BT7 Hi Bill, I am in exactly the same situation. I have a 62 BT7 Tricarb that was originally OEW with black interior. I am also planning to take it back to its original color but with the coves in black. Look at the following site: http://www.austinhealey.com/big.html Look into the Healey Catalog section, select 1961 MKII and search for the "IVORY WHITE over BLACK" combination. According to it, seems it was an original combination for our cars. Best, Rafael ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 8:33 PM Subject: [Healeys] Correct Two Tone for 1961 BT7 > My 1961 BT7 is in line for a restoration and I've been mulling over > possible > colors. The car was originally all Old English White, but I'd like to > give > it a bit of pazazz by using the original color with the coves in a > contrasting color. I would like the color combo to be correct for the car > and, hence, > my question. Was white with black coves a stock color combination for > the > 1961 BT7? > > Bill Wilkman From ahbn6 at optonline.net Wed Jul 9 20:13:30 2008 From: ahbn6 at optonline.net (John Sims) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 22:13:30 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] service questions In-Reply-To: <001201c8e225$d3321040$7525e046@markl946cfrd7q> References: <001201c8e225$d3321040$7525e046@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: <002d01c8e232$8c659990$a530ccb0$@net> Or you can try John SIMS web site. Frankly, I am losing track and it is about time that I start organizing the pages a little better. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark LaPierre Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 8:42 PM To: TERRY COLL; AustinHealey List Subject: Re: [Healeys] service questions Terry, Any older hardware store that has descent old stock will be able to help you. Draw a picture of the drain plug or take a cell phone picture of it and show the hardware guy. They should have a "floor drain trap cover wrench " that should work fine. There are different versions but I saw one last week at my Hardware store that was under 10.00, easily. There was a picture going around the list of one type, if I find it in my archives I will email it. You may visit John Simms web page , you never know what my be hiding there. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "TERRY COLL" To: "AustinHealey List" Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 8:38 AM Subject: [Healeys] service questions From rdickson at midwestarchaeology.com Wed Jul 9 20:30:07 2008 From: rdickson at midwestarchaeology.com (Randy Dickson) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 21:30:07 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] dash top padding question Message-ID: <000001c8e234$df254e80$9d6feb80$@com> -----Original Message----- From: Randy Dickson [mailto:rdickson at midwestarchaeology.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 7:58 AM To: 'healeys at autox.team.net' Subject: dash top padding question Fellow Healeyoids, I got a kit from Heritage and I'm in the process of putting the dashtop on my 63 BJ7. Does the 1/4" foam go all of the way over the half round rubber front of the dash top and glue under the dash top? When I took my old one apart the foam appeared to go over the half rounded rubber front but the dash had been redone by the PO at least once. Thanks! Healey-Archaeologist Randy 63 BJ7 66 Cobra replica 06 Mini Cooper S From insptwo at msn.com Wed Jul 9 20:33:58 2008 From: insptwo at msn.com (insptwo at msn.com) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 22:33:58 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Free ZDDPlus In-Reply-To: <20080710004429.ONCX13398.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> References: <20080710004429.ONCX13398.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> Message-ID: I've been using Kendell GT1 High Performance Motor Oil. If you look it up at the Kendall web sight, it talks about the ZDDP in its specs and lists the percentage. Bill BJ7 No financial interest blah, blah (wish I did have one!) > From: tomfelts at windstream.net> To: Editorgary at aol.com; healeys at autox.team.net> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 20:44:29 -0400> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Free ZDDPlus> > I'm confised. If Val 20/50 VR1 Racing oil contains sufficient ZDDP, why all the fuss over adding this stuff? I am assuming val does contain enough--------? > > Tom > > > > From: Editorgary at aol.com> > Date: 2008/07/09 Wed PM 07:05:56 EDT> > To: healeys at autox.team.net> > Subject: [Healeys] Free ZDDPlus> > > > Roger Moment get an email circular today from Eastwood Company, advertising > > that they will include a $9.99 bottle of ZDDPlus with any order of $75 or more. > > I think this is the same product that Moss now has available in their > > catalog.> > An informal and highly unscientific survey of various long-distance Healey > > drivers at the San Diego meet suggests that most are simply specifying 20W50 oil > > when they do their oil changes if their engine is well broken-in, and no one > > seems to be having any problems. My theory is that either the typical 20W50 > > still has enough ZDDP in it to provide ongoing protection, and/or that broken-in > > engines don't really need much zinc.> > Cheers> > Gary> From MBran89793 at aol.com Wed Jul 9 20:38:56 2008 From: MBran89793 at aol.com (MBran89793 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 22:38:56 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Correct Two Tone for 1961 BT7 Message-ID: Hi Bill- The dual tone combination of Ivory White/Black (WT.3/BK.1) was a combination that was offered with trim Red w/ White piping, Red carpet, Blk hood, Blk Hard top or with trim Black w/ White piping, Blk carpet, Blk hoood, Blk hardtop. Ivory White is also reffered to as OEW (Old English White). M.S.Brantley, Jr. Tampa Bay Austin-Healey Club Concours Committee Member **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) From bcrist at club-internet.fr Wed Jul 9 22:37:05 2008 From: bcrist at club-internet.fr (Bernard Cristalli) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 06:37:05 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Correct Two Tone for 1961 BT7 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <487591F1.3090803@club-internet.fr> Yes it was. Look at that: http://www.austinhealey.com/big.html Cheers, B Wilkmanracing at aol.com a icrit : > My 1961 BT7 is in line for a restoration and I've been mulling over possible > colors. The car was originally all Old English White, but I'd like to give > it a bit of pazazz by using the original color with the coves in a > contrasting color. I would like the color combo to be correct for the car and, hence, > my question. Was white with black coves a stock color combination for the > 1961 BT7? > > Bill Wilkman > > > > **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music > scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! > (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as bcrist at club-internet.fr > > http://www.team.net/archive From fiat500f at aol.com Wed Jul 9 23:40:24 2008 From: fiat500f at aol.com (Paul Barnes) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 01:40:24 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] 100-4 originality/assembly help please.. Message-ID: <000601c8e24f$73b53b90$2f01a8c0@deepthought42> Hi again, Still working with my friend on his 1954 100-4. We're doing the interior and we need a photo of something. We're putting on the B-post and sill aluminum plates (after FINALLY gettting the right ones from Kilmartin via Moss after Moss gave us HUGE problems BY repeatedly sending us the wrong one ANd INSISTING that they were the right ones. Photos supplied from this group convinced then otherwise -THANKS GUYS!). We need a photo of the top of the B-post plate where the plate, with its piping, and the rear cockpit aluminum moulding, and the interior trim panel, all come together. We're really not sure how that corner all meets up! also, why is the top of the B-post plate sort of pointy? Is that suppose to be covering something? Thanks, Paul B. From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Jul 10 00:12:19 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:12:19 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Proper Thermostat for a BT7? In-Reply-To: <48720d20807091619s67f8450cy91b75307a4eaab65@mail.gmail.com> References: <48720d20807091619s67f8450cy91b75307a4eaab65@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Jack - The 6 cylinder is designed to use the standard British bellows thermostat which is hard to find these days. I actually like these thermostats - they have a huge opening to allow free coolant movement. The downside is when they fail, they fail in the closed position, so they aren't perfect. They have a special sleeve which closes the bypass port on your head - this sleeve helps improve cooling efficiency when the car is hot by preventing the backflow of hot coolant from the head back into the block. Moss motors sells the correct thermostat, but the standard thermostat is fine for most applications. Best, Alan On 7/10/08, Jack Feldman wrote: > Somewhere I read that the 3000 takes a special thermostat. I asked a > representative of a LBC repair shop and he confirmed the information and > gave me two part numbers. There were Stant 13358, and 13008. I went to my > local NAPA store and they translated those part numbers into NAPA 169, and > 170. Both of those thermostats looked exactly alike, and both were 180 > degree thermostats. The were so much alike I'm not even sure I got the > correct part in the appropriate box. > > When I looked at them out of the box they just looked like any old > thermostat. > > Do we really need a special thermostat? If the part numbers that were given > to me are correct, what is special about these thermostats? > > My MGC has a special thermostat, but the difference is obvious. > > Thanks, > > Jack > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Jul 10 00:25:04 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:25:04 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: [Spridgets] Big Healey long shot. In-Reply-To: <28f529ba0807091403i2f105649p3a794642352e9aa3@mail.gmail.com> References: <487525D9.1020606@b2systems.com> <28f529ba0807091403i2f105649p3a794642352e9aa3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Mike - The brake master cylinders used on British cars in the early 50s can all look quite similar but in fact can vary quite a bit. For example the MC used on my '52 Atlantic looks similar to the MC on my '53 AH 100 but in fact they are totally different - the stop lamp switch on the Atlantic screws into the back of the MC whereas on the 100 it is located remotely. This is significant because mechanically the two cars are identical otherwise. My suggestion to you is to have the original MC professionally sleaved (with SS) and rebuilt by a rebuilder. That way you'll never worry about mixing and matching incorrect components - which is a bad idea when it comes to your brakes. Incidentally, one of only 4 Singer Rapier Convertibles ever made by the factory is undergoing complete restoration here in Hong Kong. Best, Alan On 7/10/08, Mike Vasquez wrote: > Anyone able to help Mike out? > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Mike Rambour > Date: Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 1:55 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] Big Healey long shot. > To: Spridgeteers > > > Does anyone have a 100-4 brake master cylinder that they could take > some measurements for me ? or better yet close by so I can compare ? > > I know there is a big healey list but I am on too many lists already so > thought I would ask here before joining another list. > > One of our members needs a master cylinder for his Singer and the 100-4 > cylinder looks identical but there is some discussion if the piston size > is the same. I am talking about part 7-076 on this page > http://www.victoriabritish.com/Features/AH/AHBR1.htm. > > I have seen the 2 together and I know the bolt holes are easily with a > 1/4" of each other, I could not compare that closely but its close, its > just the internal diameter that is the concern. > > mike > You are subscribed as mike.vasquez at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 From f.ronald.rader at gmail.com Thu Jul 10 00:28:53 2008 From: f.ronald.rader at gmail.com (F. Ronald Rader) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 23:28:53 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Healey-Fiesta Message-ID: <5caeedb50807092328y6289c287pc0cfb7b77d49d7fd@mail.gmail.com> a very wise move i'd say! ron On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 12:22 PM, 62bt7 <62bt7 at prodigy.net> wrote: > Bob sold it some time ago to raise funds for purchase of the Hash-Healey. > > Kirk Kvam > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "F. Ronald Rader" < > f.ronald.rader at gmail.com> > > > currently owned by Bob Segui, who took best of class last week with >> his Nash Healey coupe. >> ron rader >> 1965 BJ8 >> 1954 Nash Healey >> no fiestas >> >> On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 5:22 AM, Alan Seigrist >> wrote: >> >>> Tom - >>> >>> Don't you dare slag off the Fiesta. It was a Healey, once: >>> >>> http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/your_garage/cars/625.shtml >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as 62bt7 at prodigy.net >> >> http://www.team.net/archive From f.ronald.rader at gmail.com Thu Jul 10 00:29:46 2008 From: f.ronald.rader at gmail.com (F. Ronald Rader) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 23:29:46 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Healey-Fiesta In-Reply-To: <5caeedb50807092328y6289c287pc0cfb7b77d49d7fd@mail.gmail.com> References: <5caeedb50807092328y6289c287pc0cfb7b77d49d7fd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5caeedb50807092329h5cb0e3dldc0dfbb9513db3f2@mail.gmail.com> a vey wise move i'd say! ron ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: F. Ronald Rader Date: Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 11:28 PM Subject: Healey-Fiesta To: Healey List a very wise move i'd say! ron On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 12:22 PM, 62bt7 <62bt7 at prodigy.net> wrote: > > Bob sold it some time ago to raise funds for purchase of the Hash-Healey. > > Kirk Kvam > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "F. Ronald Rader" > > >> currently owned by Bob Segui, who took best of class last week with >> his Nash Healey coupe. >> ron rader >> 1965 BJ8 >> 1954 Nash Healey >> no fiestas From msalter at precisionsportscar.com Thu Jul 10 06:15:51 2008 From: msalter at precisionsportscar.com (Michael Salter) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:15:51 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: [Spridgets] Big Healey long shot. In-Reply-To: References: <487525D9.1020606@b2systems.com> <28f529ba0807091403i2f105649p3a794642352e9aa3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <004e01c8e286$b216e8c0$1644ba40$@com> Mike and Alan, I know this is not really answering the original question but as far as I'm aware the condition of the bore of the 100 master cylinder is not really critical. That style of master cylinder uses a stationary seal through which the piston passes when the brakes are applied so it is the surface of the piston which must be in good condition. Fortunately the pistons are relatively inexpensive to have hardchromed and ground back to size. Michael Salter -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Alan Seigrist Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 2:25 AM To: Healey List; mikey at b2systems.com Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: [Spridgets] Big Healey long shot. Mike - The brake master cylinders used on British cars in the early 50s can all look quite similar but in fact can vary quite a bit. For example the MC used on my '52 Atlantic looks similar to the MC on my '53 AH 100 but in fact they are totally different - the stop lamp switch on the Atlantic screws into the back of the MC whereas on the 100 it is located remotely. This is significant because mechanically the two cars are identical otherwise. My suggestion to you is to have the original MC professionally sleaved (with SS) and rebuilt by a rebuilder. That way you'll never worry about mixing and matching incorrect components - which is a bad idea when it comes to your brakes. Incidentally, one of only 4 Singer Rapier Convertibles ever made by the factory is undergoing complete restoration here in Hong Kong. Best, Alan On 7/10/08, Mike Vasquez wrote: > Anyone able to help Mike out? > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Mike Rambour > Date: Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 1:55 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] Big Healey long shot. > To: Spridgeteers > > > Does anyone have a 100-4 brake master cylinder that they could take > some measurements for me ? or better yet close by so I can compare ? > > I know there is a big healey list but I am on too many lists already so > thought I would ask here before joining another list. > > One of our members needs a master cylinder for his Singer and the 100-4 > cylinder looks identical but there is some discussion if the piston size > is the same. I am talking about part 7-076 on this page > http://www.victoriabritish.com/Features/AH/AHBR1.htm. > > I have seen the 2 together and I know the bolt holes are easily with a > 1/4" of each other, I could not compare that closely but its close, its > just the internal diameter that is the concern. > > mike From richchrysler at quickclic.net Thu Jul 10 07:32:49 2008 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:32:49 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] 100-4 originality/assembly help please.. References: <000601c8e24f$73b53b90$2f01a8c0@deepthought42> Message-ID: <001701c8e291$72d3d640$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> Paul, Here are 3 pictures showing this area. The alloy trim is meant to cap over the area remaining where the end of the cockpit rail doesn't cover. The piping (note the colours dependent on what you colour scheme is on your car) comes up the edge of the alloy trim and the top most 1 1/2" has the core removed to allow the piping to pinch flat and disappear into the final upsweep of the alloy trim. There will be excess width and height of alloy plate that will need to be carefully cut and filed away for best fit for your particular car. The inside trim panel will have the inner wood coming up and stopping just short of the cockpit rail. The vinyl covering at the top of the trim panel will continue up to finish by being pinched flat and glued under the area the cockpit rail will cover. The inner leading edge of the trim panel will neatly butt against the inner edge of the alloy plate. Hope this helps. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Barnes" To: Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 1:40 AM Subject: [Healeys] 100-4 originality/assembly help please.. > Hi again, > > Still working with my friend on his 1954 100-4. We're doing the interior > and > we need a photo of something. We're putting on the B-post and sill > aluminum > plates (after FINALLY gettting the right ones from Kilmartin via Moss > after > Moss gave us HUGE problems BY repeatedly sending us the wrong one ANd > INSISTING that they were the right ones. Photos supplied from this group > convinced then otherwise -THANKS GUYS!). We need a photo of the top of > the > B-post plate where the plate, with its piping, and the rear cockpit > aluminum > moulding, and the interior trim panel, all come together. We're really > not > sure how that corner all meets up! also, why is the top of the B-post > plate > sort of pointy? Is that suppose to be covering something? > > Thanks, > Paul B. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richchrysler at quickclic.net > > http://www.team.net/archive [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Hundred details 20006.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Hundred details 20018.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 02RRDK.JPG] From msalter at precisionsportscar.com Thu Jul 10 10:13:53 2008 From: msalter at precisionsportscar.com (Michael Salter) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:13:53 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] 100M inspection NY In-Reply-To: References: <487525D9.1020606@b2systems.com> <28f529ba0807091403i2f105649p3a794642352e9aa3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002a01c8e2a7$f2894f80$d79bee80$@com> Is there anyone on the list in the Long Island NY area who would be qualified and available to do pre purchase inspection on a 100M. happy t pay for the service. Michael Salter From wsteinman at pogolaw.com Thu Jul 10 10:44:44 2008 From: wsteinman at pogolaw.com (Steinman, Bill) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:44:44 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Correct Two Tone for 1961 BT7 In-Reply-To: <487591F1.3090803@club-internet.fr> References: <487591F1.3090803@club-internet.fr> Message-ID: <82A974D0BA5A5E4C85412B56F8C0D4B21E389E@US-EXCH-VS02.US.PGFM.NET> My parents had a BT7 in 1960 when they were first married. My dad recalls being told that if they ordered a car, it could be painted any color or combination thereof, so long as the colors were in the BMC catalog. A car might not come from the factory with certain combinations, but you could essentially mix and match. Or so they recall! Bill S. 2005 Lotus Elise 1968 Triumph TR-250 1968 MGC Tourer 1965 Sunbeam Tiger 1959 Austin Healey 3000 Tedious but unavoidable disclaimer follows... 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From quenty at ntelos.net Thu Jul 10 11:29:11 2008 From: quenty at ntelos.net (David Schweninger) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 13:29:11 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] dash top padding question In-Reply-To: <000001c8e234$df254e80$9d6feb80$@com> References: <000001c8e234$df254e80$9d6feb80$@com> Message-ID: <443350FD-E1A4-4E97-BBC5-3B5124F40740@ntelos.net> Randy. I have the original dash top panel for my BN7 II. The plywood is flush with the 1/2 round foam part. The original padding was not foam, but appears to be a material similar to the original carpet under- felt, but is about 1/8" thick. I think that if you stop the foam at the edge of the 1/2 round you will be able "read" the edge. I can send a picture if you like. I'm going to take a look at using the white closed cell high density foam. usually called "Landau foam. Best Dave and Daisy On Jul 9, 2008, at 10:30 PM, Randy Dickson wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: Randy Dickson [mailto:rdickson at midwestarchaeology.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 7:58 AM > To: 'healeys at autox.team.net' > Subject: dash top padding question > > > > Fellow Healeyoids, > I got a kit from Heritage and I'm in the process of putting the > dashtop on > my 63 BJ7. Does the 1/4" foam go all of the way over the half round > rubber > front of the dash top and glue under the dash top? When I took my > old one > apart the foam appeared to go over the half rounded rubber front but > the > dash had been redone by the PO at least once. Thanks! > > > Healey-Archaeologist > Randy > > 63 BJ7 > 66 Cobra replica > 06 Mini Cooper S > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as quenty at ntelos.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From quenty at ntelos.net Thu Jul 10 16:11:10 2008 From: quenty at ntelos.net (David Schweninger) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:11:10 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] dash top padding question In-Reply-To: <005d01c8e2b6$144e2510$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> References: <000001c8e234$df254e80$9d6feb80$@com> <443350FD-E1A4-4E97-BBC5-3B5124F40740@ntelos.net> <005d01c8e2b6$144e2510$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> Message-ID: <43A84DA6-641F-49FD-9D2E-D228016FCE98@ntelos.net> Randy, I guess that means the foam does not go around the front edge Good Luck. Dave On Jul 10, 2008, at 1:55 PM, Rich C wrote: > Gentlemen, > > The BJ7 dash top is a whole different animal to the BN7 roadster > model. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Schweninger" > > To: "Randy Dickson" ; "Healey Mail > List" > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 1:29 PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] dash top padding question > > >> Randy. >> I have the original dash top panel for my BN7 II. The plywood is >> flush with the 1/2 round foam part. The original padding was not >> foam, >> but appears to be a material similar to the original carpet under- >> felt, but is about 1/8" thick. >> I think that if you stop the foam at the edge of the 1/2 round you >> will be able "read" the edge. >> I can send a picture if you like. >> I'm going to take a look at using the white closed cell high density >> foam. usually called "Landau foam. >> >> Best >> Dave and Daisy >> >> >> On Jul 9, 2008, at 10:30 PM, Randy Dickson wrote: >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Randy Dickson [mailto:rdickson at midwestarchaeology.com] >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 7:58 AM >>> To: 'healeys at autox.team.net' >>> Subject: dash top padding question >>> >>> >>> >>> Fellow Healeyoids, >>> I got a kit from Heritage and I'm in the process of putting the >>> dashtop on >>> my 63 BJ7. Does the 1/4" foam go all of the way over the half round >>> rubber >>> front of the dash top and glue under the dash top? When I took my >>> old one >>> apart the foam appeared to go over the half rounded rubber front but >>> the >>> dash had been redone by the PO at least once. Thanks! >>> >>> >>> Healey-Archaeologist >>> Randy >>> >>> 63 BJ7 >>> 66 Cobra replica >>> 06 Mini Cooper S >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> You are subscribed as quenty at ntelos.net >>> >>> http://www.team.net/archive >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as richchrysler at quickclic.net >> >> http://www.team.net/archive From quenty at ntelos.net Thu Jul 10 17:02:26 2008 From: quenty at ntelos.net (David Schweninger) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:02:26 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: AARP Forum (not cleared by Snoops) References: <1CEAA945-D09F-4C6D-B61E-00C3F43CEF3D@twlakes.net> Message-ID: Begin forwarded message: > >> >> AARP Forum >> Questions and Answers from an AARP Forum >> >> >> Q: Where can men over the age of 60 find younger, sexy women who >> are interested in them? >> A: Try a bookstore-------under fiction. >> >> Q: What can a man do while his wife is going through menopause? >> A: Keep busy. If you're handy with tools, you can finish the >> basement. When you are done you will have a place to live. >> >> Q: Someone has told me that menopause is mentioned in the Bible. >> Is that true? Where can it be found? >> A: Yes. Matthew 14:92: 'And Mary rode Joseph's ass all the way to >> Egypt .' >> >> Q: How can you increase the heart rate of your 60+ year old husband? >> A: Tell him you're pregnant. >> >> Q: How can you avoid that terrible curse of the elderly-----wrinkles? >> A: Take off your glasses. >> >> Q: Seriously! What can I do for these crow's feet and all those >> wrinkles on my face? >> A: Go braless. It will usually pull them out. >> >> Q: Why should 60+ year old people use valet parking? >> A: Valets don't forget where they park your car. >> >> Q: Is it common for 60+ year olds to have problems with short term >> memory storage? >> A: Storing memory is not a problem, retrieving it is a problem. >> >> Q: As people age, do they sleep more soundly? >> A: Yes, but usually in the afternoon. >> >> Q: Where should 60+ year olds look for eye glasses? >> A: On their foreheads. >> >> Q: What is the most common remark made by 60+ year olds when they >> enter antique stores? >> A: 'Gosh, I remember these.' From kentmclean at comcast.net Thu Jul 10 18:46:11 2008 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:46:11 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] My BN2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4876AD53.6040308@comcast.net> Tadeusz Malkiewicz wrote: > Well, > I second this opinion - I like it here (Poland) very much.. :-) > > Kent, you should find out where he is.. From Thomas' father, "He's in nowy sacz...about 2 hours from krahow." Nowy Sacz? I had to Google it. -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 From shop at justbrits.com Thu Jul 10 19:49:43 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:49:43 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Who Wants to Drive a Millionaire? Message-ID: <074301c8e2f8$64740130$6501a8c0@shop> Here you go, folks!!!! http://tinyurl.com/5v9o67 From Editorgary at aol.com Thu Jul 10 19:59:18 2008 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:59:18 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Colors esp two-tones Message-ID: In a message dated 7/10/08 6:44:39 PM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > My dad > recalls being told that if they ordered a car, it could be painted any > color or combination thereof, so long as the colors were in the BMC > catalog. > That's sort of true, as I understand things. Dealers could and did make minor modifications to paint jobs to make a sale,* and obviously they would be using BMC paints on their shelves, but -- welcome to have anyone chime in on this to contradict me -- I have never encountered anyone who could show a BMIHT certificate that showed a Healey painted in any other colors or combinations except those on the blueprints -- which are what is reflected in the Concours Standards and our Restoration Guide. * there is a BT7 in my local area owned now by the son of the original owner, that he (the son) recalls was originally primrose, and the dealer painted the side coves dark green before delivery because the father wanted it that way. Dealer painting of side coves was pretty common, especially on the BN2s. BTW, btw -- if you do have your car painted two-tone, make sure that the cove paint starts at the lower break line, with the main color extending over the top break line and down into the cove. Cheers Gary ************** Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) From richchrysler at quickclic.net Thu Jul 10 11:55:02 2008 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 13:55:02 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] dash top padding question References: <000001c8e234$df254e80$9d6feb80$@com> <443350FD-E1A4-4E97-BBC5-3B5124F40740@ntelos.net> Message-ID: <005d01c8e2b6$144e2510$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> Gentlemen, The BJ7 dash top is a whole different animal to the BN7 roadster model. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Schweninger" To: "Randy Dickson" ; "Healey Mail List" Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] dash top padding question > Randy. > I have the original dash top panel for my BN7 II. The plywood is > flush with the 1/2 round foam part. The original padding was not foam, > but appears to be a material similar to the original carpet under- > felt, but is about 1/8" thick. > I think that if you stop the foam at the edge of the 1/2 round you > will be able "read" the edge. > I can send a picture if you like. > I'm going to take a look at using the white closed cell high density > foam. usually called "Landau foam. > > Best > Dave and Daisy > > > On Jul 9, 2008, at 10:30 PM, Randy Dickson wrote: > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Randy Dickson [mailto:rdickson at midwestarchaeology.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 7:58 AM >> To: 'healeys at autox.team.net' >> Subject: dash top padding question >> >> >> >> Fellow Healeyoids, >> I got a kit from Heritage and I'm in the process of putting the >> dashtop on >> my 63 BJ7. Does the 1/4" foam go all of the way over the half round >> rubber >> front of the dash top and glue under the dash top? When I took my >> old one >> apart the foam appeared to go over the half rounded rubber front but >> the >> dash had been redone by the PO at least once. Thanks! >> >> >> Healey-Archaeologist >> Randy >> >> 63 BJ7 >> 66 Cobra replica >> 06 Mini Cooper S >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as quenty at ntelos.net >> >> http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richchrysler at quickclic.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From richchrysler at quickclic.net Thu Jul 10 20:17:46 2008 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:17:46 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] 100-4 originality/assembly help please.. References: <000601c8e24f$73b53b90$2f01a8c0@deepthought42> <001701c8e291$72d3d640$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> <38EE2FF242C5466B8C2DAFDEA7C702C4@PeterPC> Message-ID: <00c401c8e2fc$4fb61c70$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> The above subject (pictures and all) has been placed on John Sim's site www.healey6.com today for all to view. Rich Chrysler > G'day Rich > > Could you send those photos to me too? It's an area I've been pondering > recently > > Cheers > > Peter Linn > Brisbane Oz From Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au Thu Jul 10 20:28:25 2008 From: Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au (Quinn, Patrick) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 12:28:25 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Colors esp two-tones In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3CFB7014611C6F418B529D81EC0708C70169F85A@itfexch5.central.det.win> G'day Gary I will take you up on your invitation to chime in. We have a BJ7 in Australia that was built 1-6 March 1963 as a Home Market car and delivered to the DHMC with blue trim, blue hood and paintwork in primer. This is indicated on the BMIHT certificate. At the DHMC it was then painted in midnight blue. This has been confirmed with both Geoff and Brian Healey. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+patrick.quinn=det.nsw.edu.au at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+patrick.quinn=det.nsw.edu.au at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Editorgary at aol.com Sent: Friday, 11 July 2008 11:59 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Colors esp two-tones In a message dated 7/10/08 6:44:39 PM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > My dad > recalls being told that if they ordered a car, it could be painted any > color or combination thereof, so long as the colors were in the BMC > catalog. > That's sort of true, as I understand things. Dealers could and did make minor modifications to paint jobs to make a sale,* and obviously they would be using BMC paints on their shelves, but -- welcome to have anyone chime in on this to contradict me -- I have never encountered anyone who could show a BMIHT certificate that showed a Healey painted in any other colors or combinations except those on the blueprints -- which are what is reflected in the Concours Standards and our Restoration Guide. * there is a BT7 in my local area owned now by the son of the original owner, that he (the son) recalls was originally primrose, and the dealer painted the side coves dark green before delivery because the father wanted it that way. Dealer painting of side coves was pretty common, especially on the BN2s. BTW, btw -- if you do have your car painted two-tone, make sure that the cove paint starts at the lower break line, with the main color extending over the top break line and down into the cove. Cheers Gary ************** Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as patrick.quinn at det.nsw.edu.au http://www.team.net/archive ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Jul 10 20:40:38 2008 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:40:38 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Rear Wheel Bearings Message-ID: <4876C826.6060705@comcast.net> Listers, I just had a rear wheel bearing after approximately 80K miles. Just curious, what lifespan are others getting from rear wheel bearings? bs -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Jul 10 20:43:20 2008 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:43:20 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Rear Wheel Bearings In-Reply-To: <4876C826.6060705@comcast.net> References: <4876C826.6060705@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4876C8C8.4030706@comcast.net> Oops .. shoulda been "just had a rear wheel bearing FAIL after ..." bs Bob Spidell wrote: > Listers, > > > I just had a rear wheel bearing after approximately 80K miles. Just > curious, what lifespan are others getting from rear wheel bearings? > > > bs > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From richard.ewald at gmail.com Thu Jul 10 20:55:02 2008 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:55:02 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] [Mgs] Who Wants to Drive a Millionaire? In-Reply-To: <074301c8e2f8$64740130$6501a8c0@shop> References: <074301c8e2f8$64740130$6501a8c0@shop> Message-ID: Best line in the article: "Some sports cars, like the Corvette Z06, have been described as a ticket waiting to happen. The Koenigsegg is like Guantanamo Bay waiting to happen." On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 6:49 PM, Ed's Shop wrote: > Here you go, folks!!!! > > http://tinyurl.com/5v9o67 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > You are subscribed as richard.ewald at gmail.com > > > Mgs at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgs > > http://www.team.net/archive From jkrowe46 at bigpond.net.au Thu Jul 10 20:59:39 2008 From: jkrowe46 at bigpond.net.au (John & Kerry Rowe) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 12:59:39 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Proper Thermostat for a BT7? References: <48720d20807091619s67f8450cy91b75307a4eaab65@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45C9501E2E6C4ADC9A282F3AE56EFC66@rowe4323ef3cc5> Jack I imported 3 of these into Australia for myself and 2 colleagues from Norman Nock some years ago. Not expensive at the time and assisted in solving all our overheating problems. If they do fail, unlike the original the stick in the open position so will not do any damage due to overheating. For some reason, car seams to run nicer too. I have tried to convince a number of owners her but gave up when head became too sore from bashing against the brick wall. You can only do so much! John Rowe Qld Australia BN1 BT7 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Feldman" To: Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:19 AM Subject: [Healeys] Proper Thermostat for a BT7? > Somewhere I read that the 3000 takes a special thermostat. I asked a > representative of a LBC repair shop and he confirmed the information and > gave me two part numbers. There were Stant 13358, and 13008. I went to my > local NAPA store and they translated those part numbers into NAPA 169, and > 170. Both of those thermostats looked exactly alike, and both were 180 > degree thermostats. The were so much alike I'm not even sure I got the > correct part in the appropriate box. > > When I looked at them out of the box they just looked like any old > thermostat. > > Do we really need a special thermostat? If the part numbers that were > given > to me are correct, what is special about these thermostats? > > My MGC has a special thermostat, but the difference is obvious. > > Thanks, > > Jack > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as jkrowe46 at bigpond.net.au > > http://www.team.net/archive > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1543 - Release Date: 9/07/2008 > 6:32 PM From Editorgary at aol.com Thu Jul 10 21:05:54 2008 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 23:05:54 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Colors esp two-tones Message-ID: In a message dated 7/10/08 7:28:51 PM, Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au writes: > > We have a BJ7 in Australia that was built 1-6 March 1963 as a Home > Market car and delivered to the DHMC with blue trim, blue hood and > paintwork in primer. > Thanks; so noted. However, so far, it sounds like the exception that may prove the rule (that special ordering a one-off paint scheme from the factory, even in BMC colors, was rare to nonexistent): it was delivered in primer -- not painted to special order at the factory -- and was ordered by DHMC, which might be assumed to have had some influence at the factory. But, until we ask for specifics, we'll never know if there are any more exceptions.. Cheers Gary ************** Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Jul 10 21:26:09 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:26:09 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] My BN2 In-Reply-To: <4876AD53.6040308@comcast.net> References: <4876AD53.6040308@comcast.net> Message-ID: Novy Sacz is pretty close to where my Slovak wife is from, just across the Slovak border - it's the heart of ancient Polish culture in that area, which is very similar to Slovak culture. Thankfully by the time the Russians got that far, WWII fighting was mostly over (the Germans had retreated to the West or Berlin) so most of the medieval cities in this area have been preserved. Seeing these places have always made me wonder what Dresden was like before the war - it was supposed to have been the one of the prettiest city in Central Europe. Driving on the roads in all this area also makes it esy to understand why Tadek would want a classic Healey - the roads are made for running a classic Healey in the countryside! Alan On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Kent McLean wrote: > Tadeusz Malkiewicz wrote: > > > Well, > > I second this opinion - I like it here (Poland) very much.. :-) > > > > Kent, you should find out where he is.. > > From Thomas' father, "He's in nowy sacz...about 2 hours from krahow." > > Nowy Sacz? I had to Google it. > From msalter at precisionsportscar.com Thu Jul 10 16:06:32 2008 From: msalter at precisionsportscar.com (Michael Salter) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:06:32 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] 100M inspection NY In-Reply-To: <002a01c8e2a7$f2894f80$d79bee80$@com> References: <487525D9.1020606@b2systems.com> <28f529ba0807091403i2f105649p3a794642352e9aa3@mail.gmail.com> <002a01c8e2a7$f2894f80$d79bee80$@com> Message-ID: <006701c8e2d9$3688e160$a39aa420$@com> Thank you to all who replied... solution found. -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Salter Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 12:14 PM To: 'Healey List' Subject: [Healeys] 100M inspection NY Is there anyone on the list in the Long Island NY area who would be qualified and available to do pre purchase inspection on a 100M. happy t pay for the service. Michael Salter Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as msalter at precisionsportscar.com http://www.team.net/archive From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Thu Jul 10 21:35:30 2008 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (James Shope) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:35:30 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] front end knock Message-ID: <004401c8e307$2b430d70$5201a8c0@Jim> Alan Seigrist, you be da man!!! you told me to check the lower A-arm bolt/bushing to see if it had come off. nothing was missing but did tighten up the big nuts at the bottom of the arms and that stopped the knock. it was not very loose at all but 1/4 turn was enough to make the knock stop. this list is invaluable for all the "been there, done that" people who are willing to pass along their knowledge. healeymanjim From jodyfkerr at gmail.com Thu Jul 10 21:41:46 2008 From: jodyfkerr at gmail.com (Jody Kerr) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:41:46 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] [Mgs] Who Wants to Drive a Millionaire? In-Reply-To: References: <074301c8e2f8$64740130$6501a8c0@shop> Message-ID: <471534970807102041p6b36fbf3wbbfb39d462ab075c@mail.gmail.com> I thought the whole bit was nice, and I am happy to hear of a legal K in the US. I so wish / fear driving a machine like this. I'm a huge fan of top gear, and I remember watching the Stig run their last version w/out a spoiler, and it was too much for him to handle. Honestly. As much as I love the idea of cars like this, if I had 1 million I'd pay off my mortgage and buy a CV-8. Man that's a sexy sedan that's under appreciated. :) Jody On 7/10/08, Richard Ewald wrote: > Best line in the article: > "Some sports cars, like the Corvette Z06, have been described as a ticket > waiting to happen. The Koenigsegg is like Guantanamo Bay waiting to happen." > > On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 6:49 PM, Ed's Shop wrote: > > > Here you go, folks!!!! > > > > http://tinyurl.com/5v9o67 > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > > > You are subscribed as richard.ewald at gmail.com > > > > > > Mgs at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgs > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as jodyfkerr at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- http://www.theymightberacing.com/ 1953 Studebaker Champion 1959 Studebaker Lark VIII Hot Rod 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) http://motors.shop.ebay.com/merchant/jodyfkerr <--I'm selling parts on ebay! "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." --Douglas Adams From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Jul 10 21:55:22 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:55:22 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Proper Thermostat for a BT7? In-Reply-To: <45C9501E2E6C4ADC9A282F3AE56EFC66@rowe4323ef3cc5> References: <48720d20807091619s67f8450cy91b75307a4eaab65@mail.gmail.com> <45C9501E2E6C4ADC9A282F3AE56EFC66@rowe4323ef3cc5> Message-ID: John - Yes, I have this improved version of the sleeve thermostat and it works great on my BJ8 in hot Hong Kong. I bought it from Norman Nock about 5 years ago. I wish they made more of them, all my cars would get them, but you can at least get the British repro which is pretty good except when it shuts closed when it fails. Best, Alan On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 10:59 AM, John & Kerry Rowe wrote: > Jack > I imported 3 of these into Australia for myself and 2 colleagues from > Norman > Nock some years ago. Not expensive at the time and assisted in solving all > our overheating problems. If they do fail, unlike the original the stick in > the open position so will not do any damage due to overheating. For some > reason, car seams to run nicer too. I have tried to convince a number of > owners her but gave up when head became too sore from bashing against the > brick wall. You can only do so much! > John Rowe > Qld Australia > > BN1 > BT7 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jack Feldman" > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:19 AM > Subject: [Healeys] Proper Thermostat for a BT7? > > > > Somewhere I read that the 3000 takes a special thermostat. I asked a > > representative of a LBC repair shop and he confirmed the information and > > gave me two part numbers. There were Stant 13358, and 13008. I went to my > > local NAPA store and they translated those part numbers into NAPA 169, > and > > 170. Both of those thermostats looked exactly alike, and both were 180 > > degree thermostats. The were so much alike I'm not even sure I got the > > correct part in the appropriate box. > > > > When I looked at them out of the box they just looked like any old > > thermostat. > > > > Do we really need a special thermostat? If the part numbers that were > > given > > to me are correct, what is special about these thermostats? > > > > My MGC has a special thermostat, but the difference is obvious. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jack > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > You are subscribed as jkrowe46 at bigpond.net.au > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1543 - Release Date: 9/07/2008 > > 6:32 PM > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Jul 10 21:57:50 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:57:50 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] front end knock In-Reply-To: <004401c8e307$2b430d70$5201a8c0@Jim> References: <004401c8e307$2b430d70$5201a8c0@Jim> Message-ID: Jim - Glad my suggestion worked! Make sure the little nut on the bottom of the kingpin is tight too - it tightens the fulcrum pin against the lower kingpin link - this will help tighten up the suspension too. Best, Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 11:35 AM, James Shope wrote: > Alan Seigrist, you be da man!!! you told me to check the lower A-arm > bolt/bushing to see if it had come off. nothing was missing but did > tighten > up the big nuts at the bottom of the arms and that stopped the knock. it > was > not very loose at all but 1/4 turn was enough to make the knock stop. this > list is invaluable for all the "been there, done that" people who are > willing > to pass along their knowledge. healeymanjim > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Jul 10 22:06:40 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 12:06:40 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] [Mgs] Who Wants to Drive a Millionaire? In-Reply-To: References: <074301c8e2f8$64740130$6501a8c0@shop> Message-ID: Guys - The Koenigsegg (translation: king's egg?) may be Guantanamo Bay waiting to happen, but the reality is the Atom is like implementing Mutually Assured Destruction: http://www.arielatom.com/ Fastest thing on four wheels you can drive on the road, ever. It's actually faster than a motorbike on the road provided there's a curve in it. Best part of all, it's not all that expensive. It's the fastest car on the Track that the Stig has ever driven. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Richard Ewald wrote: > Best line in the article: > "Some sports cars, like the Corvette Z06, have been described as a ticket > waiting to happen. The Koenigsegg is like Guantanamo Bay waiting to > happen." From jodyfkerr at gmail.com Thu Jul 10 22:11:01 2008 From: jodyfkerr at gmail.com (Jody Kerr) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:11:01 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] [Mgs] Who Wants to Drive a Millionaire? In-Reply-To: References: <074301c8e2f8$64740130$6501a8c0@shop> Message-ID: <471534970807102111o4c05e356v11416ab1564ee08c@mail.gmail.com> I had an invite to drive one of those, for only 20K.. heh It's a ladder with a hyabusa inbetween. (or was). Brilliant car for racing, but it's a different category than the Kon. Jody On 7/10/08, Alan Seigrist wrote: > Guys - > > The Koenigsegg (translation: king's egg?) may be Guantanamo Bay waiting to > happen, but the reality is the Atom is like implementing Mutually Assured > Destruction: > > http://www.arielatom.com/ > > Fastest thing on four wheels you can drive on the road, ever. It's actually > faster than a motorbike on the road provided there's a curve in it. Best > part of all, it's not all that expensive. It's the fastest car on the Track > that the Stig has ever driven. > > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '64 BJ8 > > On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Richard Ewald > wrote: > > > Best line in the article: > > "Some sports cars, like the Corvette Z06, have been described as a ticket > > waiting to happen. The Koenigsegg is like Guantanamo Bay waiting to > > happen." > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as jodyfkerr at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- http://www.theymightberacing.com/ 1953 Studebaker Champion 1959 Studebaker Lark VIII Hot Rod 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) http://motors.shop.ebay.com/merchant/jodyfkerr <--I'm selling parts on ebay! "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." --Douglas Adams From Wilkmanracing at aol.com Thu Jul 10 23:48:17 2008 From: Wilkmanracing at aol.com (Wilkmanracing at aol.com) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 01:48:17 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Colors esp two-tones Message-ID: I have heard that all Healeys came to the dealer in one color and that the second color was always added by the dealer. Is this true? Bill Wilkman **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) From jkrowe46 at bigpond.net.au Thu Jul 10 23:51:47 2008 From: jkrowe46 at bigpond.net.au (John & Kerry Rowe) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:51:47 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] front end knock References: <004401c8e307$2b430d70$5201a8c0@Jim> Message-ID: <12A3C7DAD235462585451905F4F0EB6D@rowe4323ef3cc5> Alan I have noticed this problem with my BT7 also-one of the large nuts seems to work loose after a while. Even tightening up the cotter pins does not seem to help. 1st noticed very loose, 2nd time probably 1/2 turn Must look further into it Cheers John BN1 BT7 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Seigrist" To: "healeys" Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] front end knock > Jim - > > Glad my suggestion worked! Make sure the little nut on the bottom of the > kingpin is tight too - it tightens the fulcrum pin against the lower > kingpin > link - this will help tighten up the suspension too. > > Best, > > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '64 BJ8 > > On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 11:35 AM, James Shope > wrote: > >> Alan Seigrist, you be da man!!! you told me to check the lower A-arm >> bolt/bushing to see if it had come off. nothing was missing but did >> tighten >> up the big nuts at the bottom of the arms and that stopped the knock. it >> was >> not very loose at all but 1/4 turn was enough to make the knock stop. >> this >> list is invaluable for all the "been there, done that" people who are >> willing >> to pass along their knowledge. healeymanjim From peter.svilans at rogers.com Fri Jul 11 04:07:56 2008 From: peter.svilans at rogers.com (Peter Svilans) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 06:07:56 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] dash top padding question. Message-ID: <00bd01c8e33d$fdd16d50$6500a8c0@9535DEE118EC44B> < The BJ7 dash top is a whole different animal to the BN7 roadster model.> Yes it is, in shape. Otherwise it was trimmed exactly as the earlier roadsters, ie: thin brown 1/8" felt wrapped around the front of the 'D' rubber and over the top of the dash, smoothing the sharp corner joint between rubber and plywood. The BJ7 interior was basically a traditional roadster one, adapted to suit the new glass and weather equipment, with methods and materials remaining the same. Trimming for the BJ8 got a major revision, becoming a windfall for the sheet foam suppliers. The new model made extensive use of different thicknesses of foam sheeting everywhere throughout the new interior. Thin 1/8" foam was used in place of the 1/8" brown felt used for the past decade on the dashtop, cushion edges and front seat squab back panels. Foam sheet was now found under the vinyl covered rear deck between the seat pans, under the folding rear seat back and under the console vinyl. Seating pleats lost their rounded look as flat foam was now used in the pleating as well as in the door panels, replacing the traditional cotton wadding. Front seat squabs also got an additional full-width foam sheet under the normal Dunlopillo rubber to pad them out more than the slim roadster seats, as well as the new foam 'D' insert in the front. Best Peter From ah3000me at gmail.com Fri Jul 11 06:24:32 2008 From: ah3000me at gmail.com (T W) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 08:24:32 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Proper Thermostat for a BT7? In-Reply-To: <004EDC13-763B-4EC4-8742-5DDFA99F101E@sbcglobal.net> References: <48720d20807091619s67f8450cy91b75307a4eaab65@mail.gmail.com> <004EDC13-763B-4EC4-8742-5DDFA99F101E@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: What would happen if you just removed the thermostat during the summer? - Tom On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 7:39 PM, David Nock wrote: > Neither one of these it the correct one for a Healey. The Healey > requires a sleeved thermostat and they are not available at any of > your local parts houses. There needs to be a sleeve that closes off > the water bypass in the head. The MGC has a bypass on the bottom that > is closed off when the thermostat opens. > > > > David Nock > British Car Specialists > Stockton Ca 95205 > 209-948-8767 > > www.britishcarspecialists.com > . > . > > On Jul 9, 2008, at 4:19 PM, Jack Feldman wrote: > > > Somewhere I read that the 3000 takes a special thermostat. I asked a > > representative of a LBC repair shop and he confirmed the > > information and > > gave me two part numbers. There were Stant 13358, and 13008. I went > > to my > > local NAPA store and they translated those part numbers into NAPA > > 169, and > > 170. Both of those thermostats looked exactly alike, and both were 180 > > degree thermostats. The were so much alike I'm not even sure I got the > > correct part in the appropriate box. > > > > When I looked at them out of the box they just looked like any old > > thermostat. > > > > Do we really need a special thermostat? If the part numbers that > > were given > > to me are correct, what is special about these thermostats? > > > > My MGC has a special thermostat, but the difference is obvious. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jack > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > You are subscribed as healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as ah3000me at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From steveg at abrazosdata.com Fri Jul 11 08:05:07 2008 From: steveg at abrazosdata.com (Steve B. Gerow) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 07:05:07 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] used parts needed Message-ID: Would like to buy the following parts used, all for BJ8-HD8 carbs: Choke Cables & Splitter block assy Carb brackets where cables end Carb trunnion (1 only) Accelerator Spindle--this is throttle shaft running parallel on top of manifold Carb heat shield Carb insulating blocks (2) If you have any of these, please email me off-list. Thanks in advance. -- Steve Gerow Pasadena CA 59 BN6 From healey.nut at gmail.com Fri Jul 11 08:21:38 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:21:38 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Proper Thermostat for a BT7? In-Reply-To: References: <48720d20807091619s67f8450cy91b75307a4eaab65@mail.gmail.com> <004EDC13-763B-4EC4-8742-5DDFA99F101E@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Errrm.... Nuthin? Actually you want the tstat in there to warm up the motor faster otherwise u'll wear out yer moter. Alan On 7/11/08, T W wrote: > What would happen if you just removed the thermostat during the summer? > > - Tom > > > On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 7:39 PM, David Nock wrote: > >> Neither one of these it the correct one for a Healey. The Healey >> requires a sleeved thermostat and they are not available at any of >> your local parts houses. There needs to be a sleeve that closes off >> the water bypass in the head. The MGC has a bypass on the bottom that >> is closed off when the thermostat opens. >> >> >> >> David Nock >> British Car Specialists >> Stockton Ca 95205 >> 209-948-8767 >> >> www.britishcarspecialists.com >> . >> . >> >> On Jul 9, 2008, at 4:19 PM, Jack Feldman wrote: >> >> > Somewhere I read that the 3000 takes a special thermostat. I asked a >> > representative of a LBC repair shop and he confirmed the >> > information and >> > gave me two part numbers. There were Stant 13358, and 13008. I went >> > to my >> > local NAPA store and they translated those part numbers into NAPA >> > 169, and >> > 170. Both of those thermostats looked exactly alike, and both were 180 >> > degree thermostats. The were so much alike I'm not even sure I got the >> > correct part in the appropriate box. >> > >> > When I looked at them out of the box they just looked like any old >> > thermostat. >> > >> > Do we really need a special thermostat? If the part numbers that >> > were given >> > to me are correct, what is special about these thermostats? >> > >> > My MGC has a special thermostat, but the difference is obvious. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > Jack >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > >> > Healeys at autox.team.net >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> > >> > You are subscribed as healeydoc at sbcglobal.net >> > >> > http://www.team.net/archive >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as ah3000me at gmail.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 From tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl Fri Jul 11 08:40:33 2008 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 16:40:33 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] My BN2 Message-ID: <000301c8e364$13467b00$0200a8c0@tm4> Well, Alan is doing great PR for Poland, so I can't add too much.. But while he is there, he should visit Krakow - the old capital of Poland. It's pretty close and worth seeing. He should _not_ go to Warsaw - business like and pretty terrible.. (I might be biased though, as I come from the south :-) Great mountains there too.. If I can be of help, please let me know. Tadek Message: 14 Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:26:09 +0800 From: "Alan Seigrist" Subject: Re: [Healeys] To: "Kent McLean" Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Novy Sacz is pretty close to where my Slovak wife is from, just across the Slovak border - it's the heart of ancient Polish culture in that area, which is very similar to Slovak culture. Thankfully by the time the Russians got that far, WWII fighting was mostly over (the Germans had retreated to the West or Berlin) so most of the medieval cities in this area have been preserved. Seeing these places have always made me wonder what Dresden was like before the war - it was supposed to have been the one of the prettiest city in Central Europe. Driving on the roads in all this area also makes it esy to understand why Tadek would want a classic Healey - the roads are made for running a classic Healey in the countryside! Alan From rd_parker at juno.com Fri Jul 11 09:06:45 2008 From: rd_parker at juno.com (Robert PARKER) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 08:06:45 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Scrap Wheels Needed. Message-ID: <20080711.080646.620.0.rd_parker@juno.com> Gentlemen & Ladies, I am in need of 4 scrapped wires for a project I am working on. They must be able to fit my '61 BT& 4 seater. The hubs must be in shape enough to slide on the vehicle; the wires and outside rim can be junk. Thanks for anyones help, Bob. '61 ____________________________________________________________ Sweepstakes!!! Enter for your chance to WIN one of hundreds of daily prizes. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/JKFkuJi7UnmsXWCIdG5UXgHNOVDNnloiiMuu7RsKc416DBJyUSVzGM/ From Warthodson at aol.com Fri Jul 11 09:15:55 2008 From: Warthodson at aol.com (Warthodson at aol.com) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:15:55 EDT Subject: [Healeys] newsletter software Message-ID: We have a new member who has volunteered to produce our local Healey club newsletter. We are interested in purchasing a software package to assist him in the production of the newsletter. What do you recommend that runs on Microsoft & is reasonably easy to learn to use & also is flexable & creative? Gary Hodson **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) From jodyfkerr at gmail.com Fri Jul 11 09:23:50 2008 From: jodyfkerr at gmail.com (Jody Kerr) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 08:23:50 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] newsletter software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <471534970807110823r434b2dc3u522412e03f4f3cd4@mail.gmail.com> Microsoft Publisher Though, you could probably do it in Word. On 7/11/08, Warthodson at aol.com wrote: > We have a new member who has volunteered to produce our local Healey club > newsletter. We are interested in purchasing a software package to assist him in > the production of the newsletter. What do you recommend that runs on > Microsoft & is reasonably easy to learn to use & also is flexable & creative? > Gary Hodson > > > > > **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music > scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! > (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as jodyfkerr at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- http://www.theymightberacing.com/ 1953 Studebaker Champion 1959 Studebaker Lark VIII Hot Rod 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) http://motors.shop.ebay.com/merchant/jodyfkerr <--I'm selling parts on ebay! "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." --Douglas Adams From 57healey at gmail.com Fri Jul 11 09:53:45 2008 From: 57healey at gmail.com (Patton Dickson) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:53:45 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] newsletter software In-Reply-To: <471534970807110823r434b2dc3u522412e03f4f3cd4@mail.gmail.com> References: <471534970807110823r434b2dc3u522412e03f4f3cd4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <743b1e2f0807110853t5cd5d415q32b61bc332256d8f@mail.gmail.com> You could download the free Scribus publisher and see if it works for him. http://www.scribus.net/index.php?name=Sections&req=viewarticle&artid=2&page=1 Patton On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Jody Kerr wrote: > Microsoft Publisher > > Though, you could probably do it in Word. > > On 7/11/08, Warthodson at aol.com wrote: >> We have a new member who has volunteered to produce our local Healey club >> newsletter. We are interested in purchasing a software package to assist him in >> the production of the newsletter. What do you recommend that runs on >> Microsoft & is reasonably easy to learn to use & also is flexable & creative? >> Gary Hodson >> >> >> >> >> **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music >> scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! >> (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as jodyfkerr at gmail.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> > > > -- > http://www.theymightberacing.com/ > 1953 Studebaker Champion > 1959 Studebaker Lark VIII Hot Rod > 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) > 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) > 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) > http://motors.shop.ebay.com/merchant/jodyfkerr <--I'm selling parts on ebay! > > "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn > from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent > disinclination to do so." > --Douglas Adams > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as 57healey at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Patton Dickson - http://Austin-Healeys.com - Plano, TX 1957 Austin-Healey 100-Six "Built to run 'til the road wears out." From ghess4 at cox.net Fri Jul 11 11:37:49 2008 From: ghess4 at cox.net (Ghess4) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:37:49 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Scam alert Message-ID: Be Careful - A 'heads up' for those men who may be regular Home Depot customers. Over the last month I became a victim of a clever scam while out shopping. Simply going out to get supplies has turned out to be quite traumatic. Don't be naive enough to think it couldn't happen to you or your friends. Here's how the scam works: Two very attractive 23-24 year-old girls come over to your car as you are packing your shopping into the trunk. They both start wiping your windshield with a rag and Windex, with their breasts almost falling out of their skimpy T-shirts. It is impossible not to look. When you thank them and offer them a tip, they say 'No' and instead ask you for a ride to another Home Depot. You agree and they get in the backseat. On the way, they start undressing. Then one of them climbs over into the front seat and starts crawling all over you, while the other one steals your wallet. I had my wallet stolen May 4th, 9th, 10th, twice on the 15th, 17th, 20th, 24th & 29th. Also Jun1st, 4th, twice on the 8th, 16th, 23rd, 26th, & three times yesterday and very likely again this upcoming weekend. So tell your friends to be careful. P.S. Walmart has wallets on sale 2.99 each From bn1 at pacbell.net Fri Jul 11 14:34:17 2008 From: bn1 at pacbell.net (Mr. Bill) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:34:17 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] High Res or Not In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4877C3C9.5080303@pacbell.net> Gary, etc., A belated thanks for pointing out the error of my thinking. Bill Editorgary at aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 6/3/08 6:47:31 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > > > >> Hi Patrick, >> >> I totally agree with Earl. If SWMBO can fill up a card that quickly, >> the resolution is way too high. Mine is set even lower than Earl's >> because I get about 5000 images on a two gig card. Yet the resolution >> is fine for printing 3 X 5 glossy pics. >> >> Buy a couple of more cards and if she can use up 15,000 pics, please >> send me my tickets and I shall be happy to be your professional >> photographer. :-) >> >> Bill Barnett >> '53 BN1 >> >> > > No, no, no. Never shoot low res, because you never know when you're going > to get that photo of a lifetime. Nothing pains me more than to have to tell > someone that the fantastic, beautiful pic of his Healey or whatever that he > just > sent me "that looks great on the screen" isn't sufficient for printing (which > means it also isn't sharp enough to print and frame). > Shooting jpeg at today's standard of four to eight mb will give you > portrait/wall quality stuff, and you should still be able to get several > hundred on a > couple of 2 gig cards. > Some tricks: keep in mind that the more you shoot, the more you have to look > at. If you're coming home with more than a few hundred shots, you'll spend > more time sorting through them than you spent on the vacation. > Feel free to shoot, but then whenever you're sitting somewhere doing nothing, > sort through the pics on the camera and delete the finger and foot shots, the > low light ones, the ones with shutter shake, and the ones with junk in them > (eyes closed, pedestrian in background, poorly framed, etc). That way, when > you > get home, you have only the keepers. > have a nice vaca. > Cheers > gary > > > ************** > Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with > Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. > (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?& > NCID=aolfod00030000000002) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as bn1 at pacbell.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From kags at shaw.ca Fri Jul 11 15:34:21 2008 From: kags at shaw.ca (Earl Kagna) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 14:34:21 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: BN7 post to list Message-ID: <000601c8e39d$e20c0bb0$8c116c18@computer> Gentlemen: A friend of mine is selling his BN7 tri-carb (topshift - 1962). This car has had a full, proper restoration recently - it was a very good car to begin with - no real deterioration, all original body panels have been retained. Same the owner for the last 28 years. A factory original refurbished 2-seat hard-top is part of the deal. Ads will appear in the 2 national magazines shortly - this is a bit of a heads up for list members and any of their aquaintances that might have an interest. I would rate this car as one of the very best 2-seat top-shift tricarbs in existence, certainly in the best half dozen cars that I know of. The restoration is concours quality, although concours was not a priority when the car was under construction. The original factory paint and trim colours have been retained. I would guess that no more than 1500 miles have been driven since the car was put back on the road. This is a rare Healey and a real opportunity for some interested party to own one of these already done up. Any interested parties should e-mail me off list, and I will make the proper connections. Earl Kagna Victoria, B.C. BT7 tri-carb BJ8 From richchrysler at quickclic.net Fri Jul 11 15:55:52 2008 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:55:52 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Colors esp two-tones References: Message-ID: <009d01c8e3a0$e37f1c50$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> Bill, et al, This is not true. There were regular production occurances of two tone cars done on the production line. Of course many more were two tones later on at the dealer's to further enhance sales. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 1:48 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Colors esp two-tones >I have heard that all Healeys came to the dealer in one color and that the > second color was always added by the dealer. Is this true? > > Bill Wilkman > > > > **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live > music > scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! > (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richchrysler at quickclic.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From blkbt7 at yahoo.com Fri Jul 11 16:39:09 2008 From: blkbt7 at yahoo.com (Bob Brown) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:39:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] The Mad Dash- part 1 Message-ID: <786899.38608.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Wendy Gibbs our traveling companion traveling in "Franklin" our Bugeye writes of the trip from San Diego to Chicago. The 3 day trip was necessary to meet their flight schedule back to Australia. Bob The sprint from San Diego to Chigago  2100 miles in 3 days (3360km) We were up at 3.30 to leave by 4am. The weather was cool to start as is the San Diego weather in general. By 6.30 we were back in Barstow Mecca of the Mojave with what seemed half of the poplulation of San Diego. It was Friday July 4th and many many many folk were heading for Las Vegas Nevada for the long weekend. We'd made it here with = gallon to spare. Next stop was Las Vegas North for gas. Yet another mere 170 miles under our wheels. while the lads filled the cars with gas and checked them over, Pat and i escaped into the air conditioned shop to buy supplies...like Gatorade and water as it was getting seriously hot by now. In the little service station shop full of groceries were half a dozen poker machines. Pat and I put $1 through each winning a total of $3.50. To serve our pennance for gambling the lads actually let us drive for a while. By the time we got to Mesquite Nevada, a further 70 miles down the road Pat and I were nursing the cars driving by temperature gauge not speedo. We stopped at a Maccas in what little shade there was. Everyone was too hot to eat at first which was probably just as well because by the time the lads got to the front of the line to order, the heat stroke we were all starting to suffer was settling in the cooler indoor climate. Lookout Utah here we come! Ian took the lead as Franklin was having the most difficulty with the heat. We lost sight of Bob nd Pat in the rear vision mirror so we pulled off at exit 40 and waited under the freeway in the shade for them to catch up. It seems that the BT7 was having problems with fuel vapour lock. By 7.55pm all of us had had enough for the day. It was 100 degrees still at Green River Utah, there was a Comfort Inn and restaurant that was still open across the road. After a great meal we headed back to the motel on foot. It was till 98 degrees. The 4th of July fireworks started but none of us had the strength to get out of bed to go look. As a side note between us Ian and I consumed 1 gallon (4 litres) of Gatorade and 2 gallons of water today. Continued in Part 2 From Awgertoo at aol.com Fri Jul 11 16:46:18 2008 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:46:18 EDT Subject: [Healeys] newsletter software Message-ID: Gary-- I write the Capital Area's newsletter in Publisher which is a Microsoft product and is quite intuitive if you are familiar with Windows, then distill it into a pdf document and send it out to our members via our Yahoo list serve. Unless folks have Publisher (not many people do as it is generally a part of Office Suite) they will not be able to open a pub file written in it. Best--Michael Oritt ----------------------------------------------------------------------- In a message dated 7/11/2008 11:20:10 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Warthodson at aol.com writes: We have a new member who has volunteered to produce our local Healey club newsletter. We are interested in purchasing a software package to assist him in the production of the newsletter. What do you recommend that runs on Microsoft & is reasonably easy to learn to use & also is flexable & creative? Gary Hodson **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as awgertoo at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) From jkrowe46 at bigpond.net.au Fri Jul 11 17:09:32 2008 From: jkrowe46 at bigpond.net.au (John Rowe) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 09:09:32 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Proper Thermostat for a BT7? In-Reply-To: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D904DA0@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> References: <48720d20807091619s67f8450cy91b75307a4eaab65@mail.gmail.com> <45C9501E2E6C4ADC9A282F3AE56EFC66@rowe4323ef3cc5> <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D904DA0@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> Message-ID: <839008BEF927424185FED22A464E70B2@Johnlaptop> Ken Had no problems whatsoever-Maybe you had an airlock somewhere John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Freese, Ken" To: "John & Kerry Rowe" Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 11:45 PM Subject: RE: [Healeys] Proper Thermostat for a BT7? John, When I tried one, it made my temp gage flutter! If you have not had that problem, maybe I will try again. Perhaps there was physical contact with the gage bulb? Ken -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+ken.freese=aerojet.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+ken.freese=aerojet.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John & Kerry Rowe Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 8:00 PM To: Jack Feldman Cc: Healey List Subject: Re: [Healeys] Proper Thermostat for a BT7? Jack I imported 3 of these into Australia for myself and 2 colleagues from Norman Nock some years ago. Not expensive at the time and assisted in solving all our overheating problems. If they do fail, unlike the original the stick in the open position so will not do any damage due to overheating. For some reason, car seams to run nicer too. I have tried to convince a number of owners her but gave up when head became too sore from bashing against the brick wall. You can only do so much! John Rowe Qld Australia BN1 BT7 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Feldman" To: Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:19 AM Subject: [Healeys] Proper Thermostat for a BT7? > Somewhere I read that the 3000 takes a special thermostat. I asked a > representative of a LBC repair shop and he confirmed the information and > gave me two part numbers. There were Stant 13358, and 13008. I went to my > local NAPA store and they translated those part numbers into NAPA 169, and > 170. Both of those thermostats looked exactly alike, and both were 180 > degree thermostats. The were so much alike I'm not even sure I got the > correct part in the appropriate box. > > When I looked at them out of the box they just looked like any old > thermostat. > > Do we really need a special thermostat? If the part numbers that were > given > to me are correct, what is special about these thermostats? > > My MGC has a special thermostat, but the difference is obvious. > > Thanks, > > Jack > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as jkrowe46 at bigpond.net.au > > http://www.team.net/archive > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1543 - Release Date: 9/07/2008 > 6:32 PM Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as ken.freese at aerojet.com http://www.team.net/archive From blkbt7 at yahoo.com Fri Jul 11 17:18:46 2008 From: blkbt7 at yahoo.com (Bob Brown) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 16:18:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] The Mad Dash - part 2 Message-ID: <886387.93502.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> July 5th saw us leaving the hotel by 4.30  we gave ourselves an extra = hour sleep in. It was a very pleasant 80 degrees. Our next stop was for gas. I'd never seen this before but there you go... Ian took the nozzle from the bowser and it had been left locked in the On position which meant that both Franklin and I were sprayed with petrol. Ok, you're thinking Hmmm nasty ! Right? But wait there's more, the attendant then comes out with a small cup of absorbent stuff to cover the spill with a lit cigarette in his hand!!!!! I kid you not!!!!. The change in scenery has been amazing and spectacular. From the San Diego fog  no sorry we were too early for that  to the desert heat extremes. To little scrubby vegetation to grassy green slopes with healthy looking trees and cows Colorado is just beautiful. We had to stop and put our jumpers on and then stopped just outside of Denver for gas. Lunch was at a place called Julesburg. The gas stations air con wasn't working very well but the food was good and the cool drinks kept coming. Yes we were back in desert Grand Canyon geography again. Nebraska is a good 10 degrees cooler than Colorado, probably because we were running along next to a river. we stopped in Kearney for gas and Pat discovered a nail in one of Bob's tyres. We were advised by the station attendant that Wal mart Tyres might be still open. It's now 6pm and God bless Walmart they were still open for emergency repairs. By 8pm we were back on the road again. We stopped at Hasting Holiday Inn for a room but they were not offering any discounts so we motored on. In a small town of York another 40 miles or so up the road they were offering 20% discount plus a BONUS score of a Starbucks next door. From blkbt7 at yahoo.com Fri Jul 11 17:19:47 2008 From: blkbt7 at yahoo.com (Bob Brown) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 16:19:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] The Mad Dash - part 3 Message-ID: <783062.56289.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Sunday 6th July The Comfort inn had waffle making facilities so i had to have a play with that for breakfast. Our time out this moring was 7.10am. Well, we can make it home from here, no need to be quite so hard on ourselves. Actually, I was feeling pretty shell shocked this morning  dehydration, not ready to go home yet, wanting to stay and play a bit longer.... We caught up with a traffic jam in Iowa just by De Soto John Wayne's birthplace. Had lunch in Coralville after stopping for gas. Avis would love this family restaurant  Perkins. They serve breakfast all day, that's all they do. We stopped again 27 miles east of Le Claire as Franklins oil gauge was getting shakey  a sign that the oil level is getting seriously low. Franklins oil leak had been getting progressively worse. At 5.45pm we pulled into the 28W755 Forestview St, Warrenville Illinois. The Cubs had won the best of three matches against the St Louis Cardinals and all was well with the world. I'm writing this last piece on Thursday 10th July from our hotel room in Seoul South Korea. Where we finished our journey in Chicago we were on a plane at lunchtime on Monday, flew 12 hours to Seoul, checked into the hotel, pressed the electronic Do Not Disturb sign have only now woken up enough to make any clear sense of the tremendous feat we have achieved. Thank you Bob, Pat and Ian for making it all possible. From bn1 at pacbell.net Fri Jul 11 17:53:38 2008 From: bn1 at pacbell.net (Mr. Bill) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 16:53:38 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] DMH Award In-Reply-To: <25633446.1215450777047.JavaMail.root@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <25633446.1215450777047.JavaMail.root@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4877F282.8010700@pacbell.net> That would be our club, The Austin-Healey Association (of Southern California). It was a great time with excellent Healey driving weather! Bill Barnett '53 BN1 #663 John H wrote: > Those who went to Conclave: > > Who won the DMH Commemorative Award at Conclave? > > ....and congratulations to the Chapter that did!! > > TIA > > John Homonek > President, Atlanta Chapter AHCA > 1959 BN7 - 1960 AN5 - 1974 Jensen-Healey > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as bn1 at pacbell.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From Editorgary at aol.com Fri Jul 11 19:21:44 2008 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 21:21:44 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Two-tones Message-ID: In a message dated 7/11/08 7:23:40 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > I have heard that all Healeys came to the dealer in one color and that the > second color was always added by the dealer. Is this true? > > Bill Wilkman > No, it isn't true. However, as noted earlier, painting the second color at the dealer was something that was frequently done to move the metal when the LeMans kit was introduced and the 100M was shown at all the auto shows as a means to help dealers sell the BN1s that were gathering dust on their lots. This tended to carry over with later Healeys as well. Dealers would often order monotone cars and then add the second color to suit the owner. But many (most? - who knows) duotone cars did come from the factory painted that way. Cheers Gary ************** Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) From CAWS52803 at aol.com Fri Jul 11 19:22:44 2008 From: CAWS52803 at aol.com (CAWS52803 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 21:22:44 EDT Subject: [Healeys] DMH Award-Some History Message-ID: Just a bit of history on the DMH award. Back when I was a lot younger in the year 1989 for the Conclave at Niagara, I was contacted by Conclave chairmen Paul Jordan and John Lomax. In respect and to honor Donald who had passed away, there should be a Memorial Trophy. I called Bic Healey in England to get his blessing, which of course he did, saying it just must be a tasteful award. Using the pewter model of Walt Blanck's 100, I had it embedded in a large Lucite column and mounted on a wooden block. Then I had them etch the words on the reverse side. It arrived at my home just weeks before Conclave. I checked it over carefully to see that Healey was spelt correctly only to find the middle initial was an N. How could it be corrected in time? The company removed about 1/8" of the entire rear face of the Lucite and recarved it correctly. It arrived back in my hands with only days to spare. It has been interesting to see how it has moved around the country, with even my old Region, the Northeast winning once. Maybe it will return to Canada next year when Conclave is in Ontario. Rudy Streng Lenoir, NC BN 4 - AN5 **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) From ah3000me at gmail.com Fri Jul 11 19:26:21 2008 From: ah3000me at gmail.com (T W) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 21:26:21 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Healey sighting Message-ID: Anyone on the list driving a Bugeye south on Pleasant Street in Brunswick, ME this afternoon? - Tom From CAWS52803 at aol.com Fri Jul 11 19:39:44 2008 From: CAWS52803 at aol.com (CAWS52803 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 21:39:44 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Scam alert Message-ID: So, who is the scammer? You or them? Rudy in NC **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) From medlabinc at msn.com Fri Jul 11 22:15:21 2008 From: medlabinc at msn.com (Dick Matson) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 21:15:21 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: GPS Message-ID: Thanks to all who responded. Turns out the Garmin 260W Nuvi - and all the Nuvi series I understand - can be set up with the map oriented ' up is north'. That means at any time the vehicle icon on the screen would be oriented same as a compass bearing. Cool. Dick Matson / Bj8 / Cashmere, WA PS: Healey sighting in Wenatchee, WA on Sunday. Healey blue, top down, heading north out of Wenatchee on 97A ----- Original Message ----- From: Dick Matson To: AustinHealey List Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 5:20 AM Subject: GPS In addition to the map, distance to next turn, time in route can ie Garmin GPS screens show selectable other information simultaneously - like compass heading and current speed. Dick Matson / Bj8 / Cashmere, WA From philritten at aol.com Fri Jul 11 22:39:32 2008 From: philritten at aol.com (philritten at aol.com) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 00:39:32 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] 100-6 misfire and low oil pressure Message-ID: <8CAB1F069B4EE7A-142C-11D7@webmail-nb08.sysops.aol.com> I recently purchased a 58 100-6. It runs wonderfully on cool days, however recently we had a 105 degree day and I noticed that the usually smooth sound coming from the tail pipes had a "puff" sound in it on occasion. However, the next morning it ran fine and has since. Today, I took it on a short drive on the freeway and pushed it a bit. When I got home the "puffing" noise was back and the oil pressure had dropped to 20 from the normal 50. Any thoughts? Could it be rings? Thanks From Editorgary at aol.com Fri Jul 11 23:09:51 2008 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 01:09:51 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Walmart Tires Message-ID: In a message dated 7/11/08 9:18:09 PM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > Wal mart Tyres might be still open. It's > now 6pm and God bless Walmart they were still open for emergency repairs. By > 8pm we were back on the road again. > I think that's at least the third party on the way to or from San Diego that bought a replacement tire at the Walmart. Who knew? And they're open seven days a week and well into the evening. Anyone else? Cheers gary ************** Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) From larryrph at sbcglobal.net Sat Jul 12 05:22:45 2008 From: larryrph at sbcglobal.net (Lawrence Wysocki) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 04:22:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] 100-6 misfire and low oil pressure In-Reply-To: <8CAB1F069B4EE7A-142C-11D7@webmail-nb08.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <791956.92769.qm@web83403.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Sounds like an ignition problem! Check the distributor, spark plugs, wires, rotor, timing etc. Larry Wysocki BN 6 From healey.nut at gmail.com Sat Jul 12 05:29:09 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 19:29:09 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] 100-6 misfire and low oil pressure In-Reply-To: <8CAB1F069B4EE7A-142C-11D7@webmail-nb08.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CAB1F069B4EE7A-142C-11D7@webmail-nb08.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Phil - There could be several causes of this, most of them quite minor. Bad rings won't cause puffing sounds per se, but just puff blue smoke, so I doubt it's your rings. My general guess on this is when you car gets really hot, and if your carburetors haven't been rebuilt in a while, the brass throttle shaft in the carb will likely be worn - when it gets hot the gap on the shaft will get quite a bit bigger and allow fresh air to get in to the mixture, causing the car to run lean and possibly causing your puffing. Also, if the idle changes when hot (usually if it slows down or dies) this is likely your problem. The only way to fix it is to have your throttle shaft bushes redone by an SU carb specialist. The other potential cause is vapor lock - If I recall the fuel pump on the 100-6 is over the exhaust pipes. the best fix is to put header tape over the pipes for the part under the fuel pump - this will help keep your fuel pump cool on hot days. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 12:39 PM, wrote: > I recently purchased a 58 100-6. It runs wonderfully on cool days, however > recently we had a 105 degree day and I noticed that the usually smooth sound > coming from the tail pipes had a "puff" sound in it on occasion. However, > the next morning it ran fine and has since. Today, I took it on a short > drive on the freeway and pushed it a bit. When I got home the "puffing" > noise was back and the oil pressure had dropped to 20 from the normal 50. > Any thoughts? Could it be rings? > > Thanks > _______________________________________________ From richchrysler at quickclic.net Sat Jul 12 06:57:05 2008 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 08:57:05 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Walmart Tires References: Message-ID: <010501c8e41e$c99e5d90$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> This begs the question....what make and size tire for a Healey was available at Walmart? And with the likelihood of wire wheels, somebody at a Walmart actually knew how to handle and install tubes? Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 1:09 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Walmart Tires > In a message dated 7/11/08 9:18:09 PM, healeys-request at autox.team.net > writes: > > >> Wal mart Tyres might be still open. It's >> now 6pm and God bless Walmart they were still open for emergency repairs. >> By >> 8pm we were back on the road again. >> > > I think that's at least the third party on the way to or from San Diego > that > bought a replacement tire at the Walmart. Who knew? And they're open seven > days a week and well into the evening. Anyone else? > Cheers > gary > > > ************** > Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live > music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! > > (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richchrysler at quickclic.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From pennell at cox.net Sat Jul 12 07:40:40 2008 From: pennell at cox.net (pennell at cox.net) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 9:40:40 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Walmart Tires In-Reply-To: <010501c8e41e$c99e5d90$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> Message-ID: <20080712094040.XENHQ.28916.imail@eastrmwml23.mgt.cox.net> And how about the balancing of said wheels and tires? Keith Pennell > This begs the question....what make and size tire for a Healey was available > at Walmart? And with the likelihood of wire wheels, somebody at a Walmart > actually knew how to handle and install tubes? > > Rich Chrysler From pennell at cox.net Sat Jul 12 07:45:22 2008 From: pennell at cox.net (pennell at cox.net) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 9:45:22 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Burbling exhaust In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080712094522.NUKXB.28940.imail@eastrmwml23.mgt.cox.net> Earl and Gary, Well the car passed your test Earl but failed Gary's. It would pull in 4th just fine. The only way I was able to get it to pull off from a start in 4th was on a slight incline. Keith > When I bought my first BJ8, new from a dealer in the late 60's, I was told > that in perfect tune, you could start the car, in 4th gear direct, no foot on > the clutch or accelerator and she would pull away from that dead stop with no > pressure on the accelerator. I tried it once, and decided that my car was not > in perfect tune! > GsryB > > > Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 21:42:06 -0700 > > From: kags at shaw.ca > > To: pennell at cox.net; healeys at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Burbling exhaust > > > > Keith: > > > > Sounds like eveything is perfect - that's what a big Healey should sound > > like when it's in good tune. Of course, you just might have to drive it a > > lot all summer to confirm ----------! > > > > A wise old Healey mechanic once told me that if the engine is stock and > > properly tuned, it will pull smoothly from 1000 RPM in 4th gear (overdrive > > not engaged) on level ground with moderate throttle. Carb mixture setting > > is particularly critical with this test - it has to be perfect. I've tried > > it on my Healeys - it's a pretty good indicator of the state of the engine's > > tune. > > > > If you try it, let us know how it goes. > > > > Earl Kagna > > Victoria, B.C. > > BT7 tri-carb > > BJ8 From qualitas.jack at gmail.com Sat Jul 12 06:06:18 2008 From: qualitas.jack at gmail.com (Jack Feldman) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 07:06:18 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Source for Proper Thermostat Message-ID: <48720d20807120506v451d8d83gbaae998b1c53dee6@mail.gmail.com> Now that we have established the proper thermostat, is there a less expensive source than Moss' $40.00+ thermostat? Jack From Editorgary at aol.com Sat Jul 12 08:26:35 2008 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 10:26:35 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Walmart Tires Message-ID: In a message dated 7/12/08 6:03:49 AM, richchrysler at quickclic.net writes: > This begs the question....what make and size tire for a Healey was > available > at Walmart? And with the likelihood of wire wheels, somebody at a Walmart > actually knew how to handle and install tubes? > Fortunately for the person I knew, plus the reports I heard, the requirement was for a Sprite on 14" disc wheels. We big Healey owners may not be as fortunate, but I think I'll check just for future reference to see if they carry 165x15s. Cheers Gary ************** Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) From rnbmail at yahoo.com Sat Jul 12 08:43:24 2008 From: rnbmail at yahoo.com (Robert Blair) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 07:43:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] BJ* Wheels and Tire Sizes? Message-ID: <69195.89859.qm@web37905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi listers, Time has arrived to make a wheel and tire size decision. Choices seem to be 1) std 4.5 or wider 5.0 inch wheels, and 2) 165 or 185 tires. As far as I am aware, 175 are not available in US - are they? So it is either: 1) 165 on 4.5, 2) 185 on 4.5, 3) 165 on 5.0, 185 on 5.0. All should work, but which looks best and which works best. if anyone could send me a pic their car wheel with these combos it would be appreciated. I have pics of the std 165/4.5, but the other 3 combos would be welcome, with comments on experiences. I am not looking for the 'fat' look, so I am interested in the 165/5.0 and 185/5.0 combo if anyone uses that option. Robert Robert N. Blair 65 Yellow BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com From blkbt7 at yahoo.com Sat Jul 12 08:55:22 2008 From: blkbt7 at yahoo.com (Bob Brown) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 07:55:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Walmart Tires Message-ID: <170059.50082.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> List, As we may recall the subject of Walmart tires came up in the "Mad Dash" story. Since it was a mad dash from San DIego to Chicago in 3 day s to catch a an international flight, emergency measures were required. The tire that required replacing was new ( a set of 4 one mionth before the trip). A staple was seen in the tire at a gas stop, exit 272 I-80 in Kearny, NE. The tire held air but with 700-800 miles remaining could not be trusted. Walmart had 195-60/r15 Goodyear American Eagles or Birdgestones. I had 195s on the car. Crome wires no tubes, except for the spare. I purchased 2 tires, put both on the rear, for a match on the axle. The spare was replaced with the other good recently purchased tire. They did have a time mounting the 195 on a original painted wheel with a tube, but it is a spare. I will replace that wheel in the near future to match the remaining wheels. They did attempt balancing, I don;t recal what machine, but did not have a problem with therear as we continued. So for just under $200 and 1 hours time we were back on the road. The Walmart employees mentioned that they see quite a variety of tires to mount being in the middle of the Cornhusker state, farmers and their sons have a wide variety ofd vehicles needing tires. Npt being able to locate Austin-Healey in their computer to write up the purchase was their major problem but they worked around that to expedite our stay. BTW, as we waited Ian noticed a set of tires ona rack that were just right for a Sprite if needed. Bob Subject: Re: [Healeys] Walmart Tires And how about the balancing of said wheels and tires? Keith Pennell > This begs the question....what make and size tire for a Healey was available > at Walmart? And with the likelihood of wire wheels, somebody at a Walmart > actually knew how to handle and install tubes? > > Rich Chrysler From kags at shaw.ca Sat Jul 12 09:00:41 2008 From: kags at shaw.ca (Earl Kagna) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 08:00:41 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Burbling exhaust References: <20080712094522.NUKXB.28940.imail@eastrmwml23.mgt.cox.net> Message-ID: <004201c8e430$0d6c8cc0$8c116c18@computer> Keith: Sounds like your Healey is in just about perfect tune - don't mess with it, simply enjoy! Earl ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Gary R. Brierton" ; "Earl Kagna" Cc: Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 6:45 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Burbling exhaust Earl and Gary, Well the car passed your test Earl but failed Gary's. It would pull in 4th just fine. The only way I was able to get it to pull off from a start in 4th was on a slight incline. Keith > When I bought my first BJ8, new from a dealer in the late 60's, I was told > that in perfect tune, you could start the car, in 4th gear direct, no foot > on > the clutch or accelerator and she would pull away from that dead stop with > no > pressure on the accelerator. I tried it once, and decided that my car was > not > in perfect tune! > GsryB > > > Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 21:42:06 -0700 > > From: kags at shaw.ca > > To: pennell at cox.net; healeys at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Burbling exhaust > > > > Keith: > > > > Sounds like eveything is perfect - that's what a big Healey should sound > > like when it's in good tune. Of course, you just might have to drive it > > a > > lot all summer to confirm ----------! > > > > A wise old Healey mechanic once told me that if the engine is stock and > > properly tuned, it will pull smoothly from 1000 RPM in 4th gear > > (overdrive > > not engaged) on level ground with moderate throttle. Carb mixture > > setting > > is particularly critical with this test - it has to be perfect. I've > > tried > > it on my Healeys - it's a pretty good indicator of the state of the > > engine's > > tune. > > > > If you try it, let us know how it goes. > > > > Earl Kagna > > Victoria, B.C. > > BT7 tri-carb > > BJ8 From grumpyinloomis at ssctv.net Sat Jul 12 10:30:05 2008 From: grumpyinloomis at ssctv.net (Jerry Costanzo) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 09:30:05 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 5 speed conversion question Message-ID: <003a01c8e43c$8b0217c0$0300a8c0@cardinalhealth.net> The throw out arm for my 5 speed conversion is too short to line up with the slave clutch cylinder. I have two of the throw out arms, both from Supra models. Has anyone else seen this problem, and how did you solve it? Or perhaps is the truck throw out arm longer? If you happen to have one around, the measurement form the pivot ball indentation to the slave rod indentation is 4 and 3\8 inches. Thank you Jerry Bn4 Bj8 From schauss at worldnet.att.net Sat Jul 12 11:03:55 2008 From: schauss at worldnet.att.net (Peter Schauss) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 13:03:55 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] 100-6 misfire and low oil pressure In-Reply-To: <8CAB1F069B4EE7A-142C-11D7@webmail-nb08.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20080712170333.7E3BF18765E@autox.team.net> With the engine fully warmed up 20 psi at idle/ 50 psi at 3000 rpm is normal. HTH, Peter Schauss 1963 BJ7 > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces+schauss=worldnet.att.net at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces+schauss=worldnet.att.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf > Of philritten at aol.com > Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 12:40 AM > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] 100-6 misfire and low oil pressure > > I recently purchased a 58 100-6. It runs wonderfully on cool days, however > recently we had a 105 degree day and I noticed that the usually smooth > sound coming from the tail pipes had a "puff" sound in it on occasion. > However, the next morning it ran fine and has since. Today, I took it on a > short drive on the freeway and pushed it a bit. When I got home the > "puffing" noise was back and the oil pressure had dropped to 20 from the > normal 50. Any thoughts? Could it be rings? > > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as schauss at worldnet.att.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From wpollock at inbox.com Sat Jul 12 13:24:09 2008 From: wpollock at inbox.com (wpollock@inbox) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 15:24:09 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] clutch slave bleeder Message-ID: <001201c8e454$dc467550$4001a8c0@saybrook1> Would the person who sells the clutch slave bleed extender please contact me off list. Thanks Bill Pollock ____________________________________________________________ Receive Notifications of Incoming Messages Easily monitor multiple email accounts & access them with a click. Visit http://www.inbox.com/notifier and check it out! From tomfelts at windstream.net Sat Jul 12 17:09:21 2008 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (tomfelts at windstream.net) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 19:09:21 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BJ* Wheels and Tire Sizes? Message-ID: <20080712230921.YOHQ13398.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> I have 185/70 HR15 Vredesteins Sport Classic's on my BJ8. Love the look and the ride is very smooth. If you done thave a photo, let me know and I'll shoot a coup[le and send to you > > From: Robert Blair > Date: 2008/07/12 Sat AM 10:43:24 EDT > To: Healey List > Subject: [Healeys] BJ* Wheels and Tire Sizes? > > Hi listers, > > Time has arrived to make a wheel and tire size decision. Choices seem to be > 1) std 4.5 or wider 5.0 inch wheels, and 2) 165 or 185 tires. As far as I am > aware, 175 are not available in US - are they? > > So it is either: 1) 165 on 4.5, 2) 185 on 4.5, 3) 165 on 5.0, 185 on 5.0. > > All should work, but which looks best and which works best. if anyone could > send me a pic their car wheel with these combos it would be appreciated. I > have pics of the std 165/4.5, but the other 3 combos would be welcome, with > comments on experiences. I am not looking for the 'fat' look, so I am > interested in the 165/5.0 and 185/5.0 combo if anyone uses that option. > > Robert > > Robert N. Blair 65 Yellow BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From tomfelts at windstream.net Sat Jul 12 17:23:45 2008 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (tomfelts at windstream.net) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 19:23:45 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] 100-6 misfire and low oil pressure Message-ID: <20080712232345.ZEPM13398.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> At 3000 RPM's, fully warmed, mine is at a little tiny bit undet 40 PSI. I was told that was perfectly normal. At idle it is about 15 - 20. > > From: "Peter Schauss" > Date: 2008/07/12 Sat PM 01:03:55 EDT > To: > Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100-6 misfire and low oil pressure > > With the engine fully warmed up 20 psi at idle/ 50 psi at 3000 rpm is > normal. > > HTH, > Peter Schauss > 1963 BJ7 > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: healeys-bounces+schauss=worldnet.att.net at autox.team.net > > [mailto:healeys-bounces+schauss=worldnet.att.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf > > Of philritten at aol.com > > Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 12:40 AM > > To: healeys at autox.team.net > > Subject: [Healeys] 100-6 misfire and low oil pressure > > > > I recently purchased a 58 100-6. It runs wonderfully on cool days, however > > recently we had a 105 degree day and I noticed that the usually smooth > > sound coming from the tail pipes had a "puff" sound in it on occasion. > > However, the next morning it ran fine and has since. Today, I took it on a > > short drive on the freeway and pushed it a bit. When I got home the > > "puffing" noise was back and the oil pressure had dropped to 20 from the > > normal 50. Any thoughts? Could it be rings? > > > > Thanks > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > You are subscribed as schauss at worldnet.att.net > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From steveg at abrazosdata.com Sat Jul 12 18:38:01 2008 From: steveg at abrazosdata.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Steve=20B.=20Gerow?=) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 16:38:01 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] too-short Supra clutch T/O arm Message-ID: <20080713003801.9271.qmail@hoster902.com> Jerry, I think there must be a different length on the other trannies as mine is long enough to line up properly and I do not have the Supra trans. The British club site that has all the Smitty pix has a pic of an arm extension made to cure this exact probem. A google search for 'smitty healey toyota' will turn up this site. -- Steve Gerow BN6 From healey.nut at gmail.com Sat Jul 12 19:18:06 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 09:18:06 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] BJ* Wheels and Tire Sizes? In-Reply-To: <69195.89859.qm@web37905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <69195.89859.qm@web37905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Robert - I would only put 165s on 4.5 inch rims. Kumho tires makes a decent cheap in this size. 185s on 4.5 inch rims will be too wide and will not look right. 185 70 R15 for 5 or 5.5 inch rims. Vredestein is the current choice for this size. Do NOT put 165s on 5 or 5.5" rims, the tires are too small for that width of rim, and will look weird on your car. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Robert Blair wrote: > Hi listers, > > Time has arrived to make a wheel and tire size decision. Choices seem to > be > 1) std 4.5 or wider 5.0 inch wheels, and 2) 165 or 185 tires. As far as I > am > aware, 175 are not available in US - are they? > > So it is either: 1) 165 on 4.5, 2) 185 on 4.5, 3) 165 on 5.0, 185 on 5.0. > > All should work, but which looks best and which works best. if anyone > could > send me a pic their car wheel with these combos it would be appreciated. I > have pics of the std 165/4.5, but the other 3 combos would be welcome, with > comments on experiences. I am not looking for the 'fat' look, so I am > interested in the 165/5.0 and 185/5.0 combo if anyone uses that option. > > Robert > > Robert N. Blair 65 Yellow BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com From grumpyinloomis at ssctv.net Sat Jul 12 20:06:00 2008 From: grumpyinloomis at ssctv.net (Jerry Costanzo) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 19:06:00 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 5 speed transmission update Message-ID: <003801c8e48c$ff7ee600$0400a8c0@cardinalhealth.net> I went by the Toyota dealer and found out that there are 4 different throw out bearing arms made for the Supra engine depending on the year. I did not have any problems with the last conversion which used an 88 Supra tyranny. This conversion uses an 84 tyranny which has the arm which is too short. I had the dealer look up the part in Smitty's instruction book and since they had it in stock, I took a measurement. It was the right one. Problem solved. Jerry From philritten at aol.com Sat Jul 12 22:36:59 2008 From: philritten at aol.com (philritten at aol.com) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 00:36:59 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Missfire followup 1 Message-ID: <8CAB2B938ACA1E2-142C-2C88@webmail-nb08.sysops.aol.com> All, I pulled the cap, and what do I see??A pile of metal shavings all over on top the plates inside the cap. I've never seen that before! I'm really surprised the car was running as well as it was. I'm going pull the plugs tomorrow and see what surprises I find. It's been suggested to not go with Moss for wires, any suggestions for cap or rotor? Thanks, Phil From healey.nut at gmail.com Sat Jul 12 22:57:36 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 12:57:36 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Missfire followup 1 In-Reply-To: <8CAB2B938ACA1E2-142C-2C88@webmail-nb08.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CAB2B938ACA1E2-142C-2C88@webmail-nb08.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Phil - When you have metal shavings under the cap that almost always suggests your distributor is in complete need of a rebuild as the dizzy bushings are completely shot - the shaft is wobbling and the rotor has come in contact with the dizzy's cap. Your distributor is completely shot - and could also explain the weird puffing at high temps - if the points gap is all over the place (from the wobbly shaft) when the car gets hot the wobble will cause the gap to very and sparking across the gaps will weaken the spark. There are a couple ways to go with this. I personally like the first, but Jeff at Advanced distributors is first class also: 1) This very reliable aftermaket distributor bolts right into your Healey. Will make it run better than ever. Pertronix 6 cyl D177600 - http://www.lbcarco.com/cgi-bin/gen5?runprog=lbcshop4&page=/pertronixdist.html&o=&a= or 2) Rebuild the one you have at Advanced Distributors - http://www.advanceddistributors.com/ Cost is about the same either way, its just a question of if you want to stay original and fiddle with points or go with something non-stock and will not need regular maintenance. Good Luck, Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 12:36 PM, wrote: > All, I pulled the cap, and what do I see??A pile of metal shavings all over > on top the plates inside the cap. I've never seen that before! I'm really > surprised the car was running as well as it was. I'm going pull the plugs > tomorrow and see what surprises I find. It's been suggested to not go with > Moss for wires, any suggestions for cap or rotor? > > Thanks, > Phil From healey.nut at gmail.com Sun Jul 13 00:00:36 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:00:36 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Uprated rally/racing springs - BN1/BN2 for sale / free Message-ID: Hi All - I have a set of brand new uprated road race/rally uprated front coil springs for the 100. I bought them last year new from the Healey Factory in OZ - I thought they'd fit the Atlantic but they are too low and can't handle the weight of the old land yacht. I will sell them for a massive discount of about $150 (I will pay for shipping) or if you can show that you have given someone decent repair advice on this list, then I will sell them only for the cost of shipping to you (about $50). I can take US checks / paypal. Best Regards, Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 From PhilRitten at aol.com Sun Jul 13 09:28:41 2008 From: PhilRitten at aol.com (PhilRitten at aol.com) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 11:28:41 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Missfire followup 1 Message-ID: I noticed the contacts inside the cap are pretty uniformly eaten away and the metal contact on top the rotor is loose and moves a little. If the distributor shaft is bad, shouldn't it wiggle a little bit? By the way I have electronic ignition (not sure what brand). Thanks guys for all your input! Phil **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) From Jwhlyadv at aol.com Sun Jul 13 10:50:26 2008 From: Jwhlyadv at aol.com (Jwhlyadv at aol.com) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 12:50:26 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Looking for Big Healey Message-ID: Bill Wilding of the Bluegrass Club is looking for a car for a friend. If you have any leads please contact Bill direct at _bwilding at semonin.com_ (mailto:bwilding at semonin.com) Thanks, Jim Werner I have a friend in Augusta, GA who is looking for a Healey 3000 as a birthday gift for her husband. She would prefer it to be a BJ8 or BJ7 but would consider earlier models. She would like it to be a solid driver that he can enjoy for his birthday. If anyone knows a person who might have a car for sale or is thinking about selling their Big Healey could you please contact me. My e-mail is _bwilding at semonin.com_ (mailto:bwilding at semonin.com) and my phone number is 502-930-1730. Thanks, Bill Wilding **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) From healeydoc at verizon.net Sun Jul 13 11:15:22 2008 From: healeydoc at verizon.net (healeydoc at verizon.net) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 10:15:22 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Missfire followup 1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <875C2C82-442A-4B21-8594-094D49CA2325@verizon.net> I am starting to see this more and more. The rotor will not go on all the way on the distributor shat with the electronic ignition. It bottoms out on the timing rotor and thus it just touches the inside of the cap. I also have a lot problems with the Moss plug wire sets, the plug ends have high resistance and sometimes they are open circuit causing to high a voltage. I think that this may be the cause of some of the ignition rotors that are failing. If you are looking for a replacment distributor that is electronic we have been installing the 123 ignition on several cars and they are great. You have an assortment of ignition curves to chose from depending on the requirements of you and your car. It is a complete new distributor. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialis.com On Jul 13, 2008, at 8:28 AM, PhilRitten at aol.com wrote: > I noticed the contacts inside the cap are pretty uniformly eaten > away and > the metal contact on top the rotor is loose and moves a little. > If the > distributor shaft is bad, shouldn't it wiggle a little bit? By the > way I have > electronic ignition (not sure what brand). > > Thanks guys for all your input! > Phil > > > > **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the > live music > scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! > (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc at verizon.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From philritten at aol.com Sun Jul 13 11:44:54 2008 From: philritten at aol.com (philritten at aol.com) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:44:54 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Missfire followup 1 In-Reply-To: <875C2C82-442A-4B21-8594-094D49CA2325@verizon.net> References: <875C2C82-442A-4B21-8594-094D49CA2325@verizon.net> Message-ID: <8CAB327489AB8C2-142C-373C@webmail-nb08.sysops.aol.com> I'm thinking that since the car is new to me and I don't know what happened in the past, that perhaps I should try replacing the cap and rotor to see if it happens again, then perhaps go to replacing the distributor (the shaft has very little movement). If everyone is unhappy with the rotor and cap from Moss, what about the ones from Victoria British? Are they any different? There must be a source that's acceptable. Thanks, Phil -----Original Message----- From: healeydoc at verizon.net To: PhilRitten at aol.com Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 10:15 am Subject: Re: [Healeys] Missfire followup 1 I am starting to see this more and more. The rotor will not go on all the way on the distributor shat with the electronic ignition. It bottoms out on the timing rotor and thus it just touches the inside of the cap. I also have a lot problems with the Moss plug wire sets, the plug ends have high resistance and sometimes they are open circuit causing to high a voltage. I think that this may be the cause of some of the ignition rotors that are failing. If you are looking for a replacment distributor that is electronic we have been installing the 123 ignition on several cars and they are great. You have an assortment of ignition curves to chose from depending on the requirements of you and your car. It is a complete new distributor. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialis.com On Jul 13, 2008, at 8:28 AM, PhilRitten at aol.com wrote: > I noticed the contacts inside the cap are pretty uniformly eaten > away and > the metal contact on top the rotor is loose and moves a little. > If the > distributor shaft is bad, shouldn't it wiggle a little bit? By the > way I have > electronic ignition (not sure what brand). > > Thanks guys for all your input! > Phil > > > > **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the > live music > scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! > (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc at verizon.net > > http://www.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as philritten at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive From Chucknsueo at aol.com Sun Jul 13 11:57:59 2008 From: Chucknsueo at aol.com (Chucknsueo at aol.com) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:57:59 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Steering spacer Message-ID: Does anybody have a steering box mounting bracket spacer that they'd be willing to part with? It is BMC part 1B6195, Moss part 667-790. I know I can buy it new but wondered if somebody has a good used one that they'd want to sell. Please contact me off-list. I removed the steering column from my BT7 tricarb with great difficulty. The nuts came off of the bolts at the steering box fine but the bolts would not come out. I soaked them in PB blaster, used a big hammer, air hammer, heat, etc but nothing worked. After a couple of weeks of non-progress I finally got out the sawzall and cut the bolts at both ends of the spacer bracket. It turns out that the bolts had corroded and essentially welded themselves into this bracket. Even with the bracket out I can't get the bolts out of it, and it is cracked and missing a few pieces, not to mention being two sawzall kerfs shorter than standard! I didn't have this problem with my BJ8 steering. They came right out and cleaned up nicely. I'm not sure how common it is to have these things seize up like this but it surprised the heck out of me! Chuck Ott Middletown, DE, USA 62BT7, 67BJ8, 69AN9 **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) From philritten at aol.com Sun Jul 13 12:16:20 2008 From: philritten at aol.com (philritten at aol.com) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:16:20 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Front End Alignment Message-ID: <8CAB32BAF24C1F4-142C-3866@webmail-nb08.sysops.aol.com> The left front wheel of my 100-6 is tipped a little inwards at the top. At the conclave I was told that I need to get the front end aligned and make sure that the person who does it is able to adjust it differently than newer cars. I can't remember what it was that I'm supposed to be asking for. Can anyone help me here? I want to take it in this week for an alignment,. Thanks From NPaul72464 at aol.com Sun Jul 13 12:33:45 2008 From: NPaul72464 at aol.com (NPaul72464 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:33:45 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Missfire followup 1 Message-ID: I had the same problem with the rotor not fitting on all the way with the electronic ignition. I held the rotor to the side of my grinding wheel until it fit. Has worked fine for several years. Ned Paulsen 1960 BN7 In a message dated 7/13/2008 1:16:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, healeydoc at verizon.net writes: I am starting to see this more and more. The rotor will not go on all the way on the distributor shat with the electronic ignition. It bottoms out on the timing rotor and thus it just touches the inside of the cap. I also have a lot problems with the Moss plug wire sets, the plug ends have high resistance and sometimes they are open circuit causing to high a voltage. I think that this may be the cause of some of the ignition rotors that are failing. If you are looking for a replacment distributor that is electronic we have been installing the 123 ignition on several cars and they are great. You have an assortment of ignition curves to chose from depending on the requirements of you and your car. It is a complete new distributor. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialis.com On Jul 13, 2008, at 8:28 AM, PhilRitten at aol.com wrote: > I noticed the contacts inside the cap are pretty uniformly eaten > away and > the metal contact on top the rotor is loose and moves a little. > If the > distributor shaft is bad, shouldn't it wiggle a little bit? By the > way I have > electronic ignition (not sure what brand). > > Thanks guys for all your input! > Phil > > > > **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the > live music > scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! > (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc at verizon.net > > http://www.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as npaul72464 at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) From richchrysler at quickclic.net Sun Jul 13 13:07:39 2008 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:07:39 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Front End Alignment References: <8CAB32BAF24C1F4-142C-3866@webmail-nb08.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <021801c8e51b$b8828ba0$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> All they can and should be able to do is to adjust the toe-in. That greatly effects the appearance of the appearance of the camber of the wheels. If you're running radial tires, toe-in should be pretty much plus or minus zero. Bias ply tires should toe in approx. 1/16" to 1/8". Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 2:16 PM Subject: [Healeys] Front End Alignment > The left front wheel of my 100-6 is tipped a little inwards at the top. At > the conclave I was told that I need to get the front end aligned and make > sure that the person who does it is able to adjust it differently than > newer cars. I can't remember what it was that I'm supposed to be asking > for. Can anyone help me here? I want to take it in this week for an > alignment,. > > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richchrysler at quickclic.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From kilo2mit at gmail.com Sun Jul 13 13:27:01 2008 From: kilo2mit at gmail.com (Jeffrey Steinberg) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:27:01 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] seatbelt shoulder harness parts needed Message-ID: <6221e4f80807131227p3773788ay37ed4c167ec48350@mail.gmail.com> Does anyone know of a source for the shoulder harness anchor mount for the rear side panel? It is a piece of metal with two holes (for the mounting bolts) and a slot for the shoulder harness. I want this for my 64 BJ8. I need two of them. TIA, Jeffrey Steinberg From tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl Sun Jul 13 13:37:23 2008 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:37:23 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] BJ* Wheels and Tire Sizes? Message-ID: <00d901c8e51f$e1fd4d40$0200a8c0@tm4> Well, I bought the BN2 on 195/75 tyres - yes, they are way to big, but the car does not look to bad on them.. I do plan to change them, mainly because of rubber quality - on wet surface they behave like on ice... From phillip.leslie at sbcglobal.net Sun Jul 13 13:39:01 2008 From: phillip.leslie at sbcglobal.net (Phillip Leslie) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 12:39:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 overdrive kicks out Message-ID: <329708.12419.qm@web83107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> My BJ8 has suddenly started coming out of overdrive on 3rd and 4th gears when I press the accellerator pedal. If I lift off, it goes back into overdrive. I changed the trans and overdrive oil and the dashboard switch works perfectly. Can someone suggest a reason(s) and remedy? From healeydoc at verizon.net Sun Jul 13 14:17:02 2008 From: healeydoc at verizon.net (healeydoc at verizon.net) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:17:02 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 overdrive kicks out In-Reply-To: <329708.12419.qm@web83107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <329708.12419.qm@web83107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: faulty overdrive relay. The overdrive is working thru the kick down switch and when you accelerate it opens the contacts and the overdrive comes out. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialis.com On Jul 13, 2008, at 12:39 PM, Phillip Leslie wrote: > My BJ8 has suddenly started coming out of overdrive on 3rd and 4th > gears when I press the accellerator pedal. If I lift off, it goes > back into overdrive. I changed the trans and overdrive oil and the > dashboard switch works perfectly. Can someone suggest a reason(s) > and remedy? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc at verizon.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From clocks at midcoast.com Sun Jul 13 14:31:07 2008 From: clocks at midcoast.com (James Lea) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:31:07 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Front engine noise. Message-ID: <000d01c8e527$637a64f0$0201a8c0@JIM> When the BT7 slows down to idle, a loud noise between a rattle and a clatter comes from the engine. It sounds like it is coming from the front so I checked the fan bolts and the bolt that holds the fan pulley on. Both are tight and the fan still has some play so I assume that the problem is a bad water pump. Is it better to buy new or have it rebuilt? Should I change the fan from stock to six blade while I'm at it? Thanks guys. JL James Lea PO Box 25 Rockport Maine 04856 1-207-236-3632 1951 Triumph Renown 1952 MG TD 1952 Triumph Mayflower 1958 Rover P4 1962 Austin Healey BT7 1980 Commuta-car Electric From richchrysler at quickclic.net Sun Jul 13 14:45:03 2008 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:45:03 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Front engine noise. References: <000d01c8e527$637a64f0$0201a8c0@JIM> Message-ID: <002701c8e529$53b3eee0$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> Check the crankshaft pulley for a worn key. It is immediately noticeable if while shut off, you grab the fan blades and wiggle back and forth, there will be back and forth play at the pulley. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Lea" To: "List Healeys" Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 4:31 PM Subject: [Healeys] Front engine noise. > When the BT7 slows down to idle, a loud noise between a rattle and a > clatter > comes from the engine. It sounds like it is coming from the front so I > checked the fan bolts and the bolt that holds the fan pulley on. Both are > tight and the fan still has some play so I assume that the problem is a > bad > water pump. Is it better to buy new or have it rebuilt? Should I change > the > fan from stock to six blade while I'm at it? Thanks guys. JL > > James Lea > PO Box 25 > Rockport Maine 04856 > 1-207-236-3632 > > 1951 Triumph Renown > 1952 MG TD > 1952 Triumph Mayflower > 1958 Rover P4 > 1962 Austin Healey BT7 > 1980 Commuta-car Electric > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richchrysler at quickclic.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From dwflagg at juno.com Sun Jul 13 15:23:44 2008 From: dwflagg at juno.com (Douglas W Flagg) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:23:44 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Overdrive Kicks Out Message-ID: <20080713.172345.2820.1.dwflagg@juno.com> Norman, Could you please resend your response. It seems Phil did not receive it. Thanks. Doug ____________________________________________________________ Planning for retirement? Click for free information on 401(k) plans. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3mKKgXevkWc8e8GdcC3xB8daCfUa2LasybFMwGEPh923MFZS/ From clocks at midcoast.com Sun Jul 13 15:51:21 2008 From: clocks at midcoast.com (James Lea) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:51:21 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Front engine noise. References: <000d01c8e527$637a64f0$0201a8c0@JIM> <002701c8e529$53b3eee0$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> Message-ID: <00c801c8e532$9692aea0$0201a8c0@JIM> I went out to check it again and noticed with the bonnet up it is throwing tiny drops of oil on the front wings parallel with the fan. Looking on the underside of the bonnet there is a large black oil streak across it in line with the fan. Looks more and more to me like the pump is throwing oil or grease. Thanks again. JL James Lea PO Box 25 Rockport Maine 04856 1-207-236-3632 1951 Triumph Renown 1952 MG TD 1952 Triumph Mayflower 1958 Rover P4 1962 Austin Healey BT7 1980 Commuta-car Electric From edriver at sasktel.net Sun Jul 13 16:30:52 2008 From: edriver at sasktel.net (E.A. Driver) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:30:52 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] seatbelt shoulder harness parts needed In-Reply-To: <6221e4f80807131227p3773788ay37ed4c167ec48350@mail.gmail.com> References: <6221e4f80807131227p3773788ay37ed4c167ec48350@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <487A821C.60500@sasktel.net> Hi Jeff The Nocks have this item, British Car Specialists, Stockton, California 209-948-8767 Kind regards Ed Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada '53 BN1 '65 BJ8, 89 Morgan 4/4. Historian, AHCUSA Jeffrey Steinberg wrote: > Does anyone know of a source for the shoulder harness anchor mount for > the rear side panel? > > It is a piece of metal with two holes (for the mounting bolts) and a > slot for the shoulder harness. > > I want this for my 64 BJ8. I need two of them. > > TIA, > > Jeffrey Steinberg > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as edriver at sasktel.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From shop at justbrits.com Sun Jul 13 18:24:44 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:24:44 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Overdrive Kicks Out References: <20080713.172345.2820.1.dwflagg@juno.com> Message-ID: <00ea01c8e548$0418f690$6501a8c0@shop> Doug, I just re-forwarded to Phil and asked him to tell you and/or myself that he got it. Ed From sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au Sun Jul 13 19:54:11 2008 From: sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au (sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:54:11 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Distributors and Rotor Caps Message-ID: <1216000451.487ab1c38b134@webmail.hotkey.net.au> Just a few points to consider. If the major 'fault' with Lucas is the shaft wear the points gap would at least be most inconsistent or non-existant and Healey would not start or go before physical contact would be made with the plug wire internal contacts.I have cracked one rotor cap in 40 years with 4 cars and even then I put the missing piece back into position with two or three turns of electrical insulation tape and drove home. The most significant rotor button failure I have heard of was the works HEALEY 3000 ARX91B that was beating the Ferrari GTO at 1965 Targa Florio (driven by Aussie Paul Hawkins .After he sprinted back to the pits for a spare he was informed it was in the door pocket....I believe Paul said "damm !" So I guess they do fail but in this case not due to shaft wear. Look for the simple cause first. Joe From jule_enterprisesah at yahoo.com Sun Jul 13 19:55:41 2008 From: jule_enterprisesah at yahoo.com (Martin Jansen) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:55:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Gas mileage to conclave Message-ID: <958707.40348.qm@web52404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> First let me say I did not drive my Healey to California but trailed it there. I made a similar trip last August also trailering a car of similar weight to the Healey using the same truck. I have realized upon my return and doing my calculations that I used 22% more fuel on this recent trip compared to last trip. I am not referring to cost but to consumption of fuel. The cost was also increased but my concern was the consumption of gas. I am concerned about the oil companies adding ethonal to fuel. I believe this process reduces the energy density of the gas causing more fuel to be used to achieve the same energy density as plain gas with no ethanol. My understanding is that harvesting the corn for ethanol is a very expensive process and great deal of fuel is used to harvest it. Is this the way we should be going? Why would you reduce energy density in fuel which would result in higher consumption of this mixed fuel? resulting in higher consumption of oil reserves. Are the costs of harvesting for ethanol being retrived though higher volume sales in fuel? Are oil companies like cigarette companies adding something to their product for higher consumption? And what effect does this fuel have on austin Healeys? Do you readers have any thoughts on this? Happy Healeying, Marty www.jule-enterprises.com From healey.nut at gmail.com Sun Jul 13 20:34:06 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:34:06 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Gas mileage to conclave In-Reply-To: <958707.40348.qm@web52404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <958707.40348.qm@web52404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Marty - I doubt Ethanol Mix would reduce your mileage that much unless you were using E85, which you can't use unless you have a flex fuel vehicle. If you were using E10 (quite possible) it should only reduce mileage about ~3%. With respect to corn ethanol - I think pretty much everyone agrees this is a boondoggle (except corn farmers of course), but then again getting a process started with corn is easy and fast and now I think the country is looking to switch to sugar cane and sweet sourghum in the near future, and eventually switchgrass. For diesel the bio fuel source most commonly used is rapeseed. Ethanol is NOT good for Healeys because it is a very good solvent and thus tends to deteriorate natural rubber and cork gaskets - which means it will degrade pretty much any SU carburetor out there except possibly the HS4 and HS6 (used only on MkIIs). This is moot because the standard fuel flex line used in Healeys is rubber, and the standard SU fuel pump uses a rubber diaphram. For more info have a look here: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3251/is_5_235/ai_n25474139 Until the US is willing to make the effort like Brazil to create a true flex fuel standard platform in their vehicles, ethanol is more or less a bit wasteful. Avoid at all costs! Best, Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Martin Jansen wrote: > First let me say I did not drive my Healey to California but trailed it > there. I made a similar trip last August also trailering a car of similar > weight to the Healey using the same truck. > I have realized upon my return and doing my calculations that I used 22% > more > fuel on this recent trip compared to last trip. I am not referring to cost > but > to consumption of fuel. The cost was also increased but my concern was the > consumption of gas. > I am concerned about the oil companies adding ethonal to fuel. I believe > this > process reduces the energy density of the gas causing more fuel to be used > to > achieve the same energy density as plain gas with no ethanol. > My understanding is that harvesting the corn for ethanol is a very > expensive > process and great deal of fuel is used to harvest it. Is this the way we > should be going? > Why would you reduce energy density in fuel which would result in higher > consumption of this mixed fuel? resulting in higher consumption of oil > reserves. > Are the costs of harvesting for ethanol being retrived though higher volume > sales in fuel? > Are oil companies like cigarette companies adding something to their > product > for higher consumption? > And what effect does this fuel have on austin Healeys? > Do you readers have any thoughts on this? > Happy Healeying, > Marty > www.jule-enterprises.com From shop at justbrits.com Sun Jul 13 21:56:16 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:56:16 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Gas mileage to conclave References: <958707.40348.qm@web52404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <024b01c8e565$917b8cb0$6501a8c0@shop> <> WISH that was even POSSIBLE in "The Land of Blogo the THIEF" (our 'reform' govenor who is more of a crook than anybody before him [and GREAT 'friend' of Obama, the do nothing IL Sen & now the do nothing US Sen] ), AKA Illinois, Alan!! ILLINOIS has totally turned into the Champion 'breeding' State for 'bad' politics!!! Too bad. From rthrift at cox.net Sun Jul 13 21:19:21 2008 From: rthrift at cox.net (RThrift) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:19:21 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Gas mileage to conclave In-Reply-To: <024b01c8e565$917b8cb0$6501a8c0@shop> Message-ID: <20080713231922.AWCWU.4296.imail@fed1rmwml15> Nope. Re the champion breeding state for bad politics: That's Texas. Richard ---- Ed's Shop wrote: WISH that was even POSSIBLE in "The Land of Blogo the THIEF" (our 'reform' govenor who is more of a crook than anybody before him [and GREAT 'friend' of Obama, the do nothing IL Sen & now the do nothing US Sen] ), AKA Illinois, Alan!! ILLINOIS has totally turned into the Champion 'breeding' State for 'bad' politics!!! Too bad. _______________________________________________ From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Jul 13 21:20:35 2008 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:20:35 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel Additives (was Re: Gas mileage to conclave) In-Reply-To: References: <958707.40348.qm@web52404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <487AC603.8020107@comcast.net> Good topic. FWIW, I've bought gas all over the western US and Canada, presumably with everything from MTBE and ethanol to who-knows-what additives and never had a problem with my carburettors or fuel line attributable to the gas. I rebuilt my carbs maybe 15 years ago and replaced the fuel line since then as well. My guess is that any fuel system components manufactured in the last 15 years or so are made with rubber (buna-n aka nitrile or other) that is resistant to these solvents. Same goes for the fuel pump diaphragm, which also has a thin "shield," which appears to be mylar or similar. Anybody running original rubber fuel components? AFAIK, the only cork on my BJ8 are gaskets on the king pin lower trunnion. bs Alan Seigrist wrote: > Marty - > > I doubt Ethanol Mix would reduce your mileage that much unless you were > using E85, which you can't use unless you have a flex fuel vehicle. If you > were using E10 (quite possible) it should only reduce mileage about ~3%. > > With respect to corn ethanol - I think pretty much everyone agrees this is a > boondoggle (except corn farmers of course), but then again getting a process > started with corn is easy and fast and now I think the country is looking to > switch to sugar cane and sweet sourghum in the near future, and eventually > switchgrass. For diesel the bio fuel source most commonly used is rapeseed. > > Ethanol is NOT good for Healeys because it is a very good solvent and thus > tends to deteriorate natural rubber and cork gaskets - which means it will > degrade pretty much any SU carburetor out there except possibly the HS4 and > HS6 (used only on MkIIs). This is moot because the standard fuel flex line > used in Healeys is rubber, and the standard SU fuel pump uses a rubber > diaphram. For more info have a look here: > > http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3251/is_5_235/ai_n25474139 > > Until the US is willing to make the effort like Brazil to create a true flex > fuel standard platform in their vehicles, ethanol is more or less a bit > wasteful. > > Avoid at all costs! > > Best, > > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '64 BJ8 > > ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From healeydoc at verizon.net Sun Jul 13 21:38:53 2008 From: healeydoc at verizon.net (healeydoc at verizon.net) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:38:53 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 overdrive kicks out In-Reply-To: <329708.12419.qm@web83107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <329708.12419.qm@web83107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <88AB2F42-7DBA-462A-A804-E0385C06DCDA@verizon.net> faulty overdrive relay. The overdrive is working thru the kick down switch and when you accelerate it opens the contacts and the overdrive comes out. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialis.com On Jul 13, 2008, at 12:39 PM, Phillip Leslie wrote: > My BJ8 has suddenly started coming out of overdrive on 3rd and 4th > gears when I press the accellerator pedal. If I lift off, it goes > back into overdrive. I changed the trans and overdrive oil and the > dashboard switch works perfectly. Can someone suggest a reason(s) > and remedy? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc at verizon.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au Sun Jul 13 22:10:20 2008 From: sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au (sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:10:20 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] KISS Message-ID: <1216008620.487ad1aca2901@webmail.hotkey.net.au> FWIW at our club meeting last week we were given a talk with Q & A session on old BMC sports cars. This man has run his own repair business,engine overhaul shop and designed and had cast cross-flow heads for A-series engs. that gave approx. 30HP improvement.He passed on the following. Ethonol may give higher octane figure but a higher volume of fuel is required. This may be achieveable with computers and knock sensors etc. but may not deliver the goods with SU's.Fuel consumption will be worse. It is also acidic and in some proportions can affect zinc, rubber and who knows? Valve seat recession, best practical control measure is to carefully set the valve clearences and then a closing gap indicates seat wear, otherwise keep driving. Joe From philritten at aol.com Sun Jul 13 22:34:59 2008 From: philritten at aol.com (philritten at aol.com) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:34:59 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Heater Control Tap Message-ID: <8CAB3821C1B17EA-142C-49A7@webmail-nb08.sysops.aol.com> I removed five of six plugs, but the tube going to the heater control valve is in the way of the 6th plug. If I remove this hose, or unscrew the valve from the block is water going to come rushing out? Thanks, Phil From sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au Sun Jul 13 22:45:16 2008 From: sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au (sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:45:16 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] KISS 2 Message-ID: <1216010716.487ad9dc39967@webmail.hotkey.net.au> FWIW the same man spoke on thermostats and fuel additives and said. additives on old style 'soft' cast iron or chilled cast iron valve seats may be required and will certainly benefit seat life. But excessive additive may drop out of the fuel suspension and form a coating on the spark plug insulating porcelain and result in potentially poor spark. This problem is worse when the user adopts the principal ' more is better' and worse again if the correct cylinder head temperature is not maintained causing greater cylinder head build up which will release itself with a good dose of wide poen throttle and/or high temps. which we all know about. Joe From healey.nut at gmail.com Mon Jul 14 00:30:12 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:30:12 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Heater Control Tap In-Reply-To: <8CAB3821C1B17EA-142C-49A7@webmail-nb08.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CAB3821C1B17EA-142C-49A7@webmail-nb08.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Phil - You should be able to get a spark plug socket on there and then put on a socket extension which will help you clear the hose, then put the socket wrench on the extension. This is the way I've always done it, much easier than undoing a hose and getting water everywhere. Best, Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 12:34 PM, wrote: > I removed five of six plugs, but the tube going to the heater control valve > is in the way of the 6th plug. If I remove this hose, or unscrew the valve > from the block is water going to come rushing out? > > Thanks, > Phil From frogeye at porterscustom.com Mon Jul 14 04:19:21 2008 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (Dave Porter) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 04:19:21 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Gas mileage to conclave In-Reply-To: <20080713231922.AWCWU.4296.imail@fed1rmwml15> Message-ID: <20080714101908.276B418767B@autox.team.net> I smell a revolution... frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 Porter Custom Bicycles www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+frogeye=porterscustom.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+frogeye=porterscustom.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of RThrift Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 9:19 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gas mileage to conclave Nope. Re the champion breeding state for bad politics: That's Texas. Richard ---- Ed's Shop wrote: WISH that was even POSSIBLE in "The Land of Blogo the THIEF" (our 'reform' govenor who is more of a crook than anybody before him [and GREAT 'friend' of Obama, the do nothing IL Sen & now the do nothing US Sen] ), AKA Illinois, Alan!! ILLINOIS has totally turned into the Champion 'breeding' State for 'bad' politics!!! Too bad. _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as frogeye at porterscustom.com http://www.team.net/archive From sbyers at ec.rr.com Mon Jul 14 07:00:24 2008 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8Healeys) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 06:00:24 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Replacement Radiator Fan In-Reply-To: <005e01c8dcae$13452d20$f041e046@markl946cfrd7q> References: <005e01c8dcae$13452d20$f041e046@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: <001d01c8e5b1$95112500$bf336f00$@rr.com> I had an incident a few years ago with a Moss Chinese-manufactured 6-bladed fan. Eight months and 2500 miles after I installed it, two blades broke off at the root, damaged the radiator header tank, and knocked the fan guard loose. My homemade fan shroud kept the blades and guard from going into the bonnet. The materials lab at work analyzed the failures and said it was due to metal fatigue. Moss replaced my radiator and sent me an identical fan, but a few weeks later they sent out a bulletin asking anyone who had bought the six-bladed fan to remove it immediately and return it. When I removed mine, I found paint chipping in the exact place that the first blades broke. Moss replaced the fan with a stainless one, but I only used that one for a short time due to its noise. I now run a Texas Kooler and am very happy with it. I would venture to say that any fan that sheds a blade will do so due to fatigue, and there is nothing practical that can be done to modify it to reduce fatigue, which is dependent on the fan material and its mechanical design. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark LaPierre Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 6:40 PM To: Ron Fine; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Replacement Radiator Fan Sorry Ron, I have switched to the Texas Cooler but haven't experienced a high heat issue yet , since install, to comment. However I did have a question on the same topic. This fan issue has come up before but I don't recall any mention of preventative maintenance that can be taken to prevent a blade from flying. Has anyone tried adding a couple of pop rivets, J B weld or even a couple of spot welds to the fan blades to keep them in place without throwing the fans off balance. I assume this would have to be done evenly on all of the blades. This "flying blade syndrome" puts a whole new meaning to the checking under the hood routine. Mark From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Jul 14 07:42:55 2008 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 06:42:55 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Missfire followup 1 In-Reply-To: <8CAB2B938ACA1E2-142C-2C88@webmail-nb08.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CAB2B938ACA1E2-142C-2C88@webmail-nb08.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <487B57DF.4090807@comcast.net> Do yourself a favor and spring for genuine Lucas distributor cap and plug connectors. Get solid (copper) core wires and make your own secondary wiring. The plug connectors will have 15K ohm resistors to help suppress radio noise, and any plugs you can get will likely have additional resistance (I've had good performance from Champion RN12YC). Don't think you can get the Lucas cap from Moss (not sure--I got mine from Hemphill's--they still in business?), but if you get wire and plug boots they'll send a sheet listing the correct lengths for each wire (check with the salesman). For authenticity, get the two rubber O-rings to group 1&2 and 5&6 wires (any suitably sized O-ring should work). Wouldn't hurt to use silicone dielectric grease inside all connectors (at cap and plug boots). I bought the little yellow rings with the plug#--helpful plus they look cool. Of course, this is for a "stock" setup; if you get a newer style cap with push-in connectors you can run newer style wound wires. Test each of your wires for resistance before installing--it should equal the resistance of the plug boot (the wire resistance should be negligible for the solid copper wires). I tried several of the "off" brands--including Bosch--and the caps always got leaky sooner or later. FWIW, I've run a Pertronix ignition for probably 25K miles with no problems. I ordered a bunch of rotors from Cape and have had the same one for probably 15K miles (had one non-Cape fail before). Do this and then--and only then--can you start blaming your S.U. carburettors for all your problems ;) bs philritten at aol.com wrote: > All, I pulled the cap, and what do I see??A pile of metal shavings all over on top the plates inside the cap. I've never seen that before! I'm really surprised the car was running as well as it was. I'm going pull the plugs tomorrow and see what surprises I find. It's been suggested to not go with Moss for wires, any suggestions for cap or rotor? > > Thanks, > Phil > _______________________________________________ > ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Jul 14 07:51:47 2008 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 06:51:47 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Missfire followup 1 In-Reply-To: <487B57DF.4090807@comcast.net> References: <8CAB2B938ACA1E2-142C-2C88@webmail-nb08.sysops.aol.com> <487B57DF.4090807@comcast.net> Message-ID: <487B59F3.1060201@comcast.net> Oops, I mis-wrote. You want STRANDED copper core wires (not solid). The strands are solid Cu, though ;) bs Bob Spidell wrote: > Do yourself a favor and spring for genuine Lucas distributor cap and > plug connectors. Get solid (copper) core wires and make your own > secondary wiring. The plug connectors will have 15K ohm resistors to > help suppress radio noise, and any plugs you can get will likely have > additional resistance (I've had good performance from Champion RN12YC). > Don't think you can get the Lucas cap from Moss (not sure--I got mine > from Hemphill's--they still in business?), but if you get wire and plug > boots they'll send a sheet listing the correct lengths for each wire > (check with the salesman). For authenticity, get the two rubber O-rings > to group 1&2 and 5&6 wires (any suitably sized O-ring should work). > Wouldn't hurt to use silicone dielectric grease inside all connectors > (at cap and plug boots). I bought the little yellow rings with the > plug#--helpful plus they look cool. Of course, this is for a "stock" > setup; if you get a newer style cap with push-in connectors you can run > newer style wound wires. > > Test each of your wires for resistance before installing--it should > equal the resistance of the plug boot (the wire resistance should be > negligible for the solid copper wires). > > I tried several of the "off" brands--including Bosch--and the caps > always got leaky sooner or later. FWIW, I've run a Pertronix ignition > for probably 25K miles with no problems. > > I ordered a bunch of rotors from Cape and have had the same one for > probably 15K miles (had one non-Cape fail before). > > Do this and then--and only then--can you start blaming your S.U. > carburettors for all your problems ;) > > > bs > > > ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From 57healey at gmail.com Mon Jul 14 08:43:58 2008 From: 57healey at gmail.com (Patton Dickson) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:43:58 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Replacement Radiator Fan In-Reply-To: <001d01c8e5b1$95112500$bf336f00$@rr.com> References: <005e01c8dcae$13452d20$f041e046@markl946cfrd7q> <001d01c8e5b1$95112500$bf336f00$@rr.com> Message-ID: <743b1e2f0807140743u33c77797vf2436cfdbbe59bb5@mail.gmail.com> I wonder if that is the same type fan that has been on ebay recentlly? On 7/14/08, BJ8Healeys wrote: > I had an incident a few years ago with a Moss Chinese-manufactured 6-bladed > fan. Eight months and 2500 miles after I installed it, two blades broke off > at the root, damaged the radiator header tank, and knocked the fan guard > loose. My homemade fan shroud kept the blades and guard from going into the > bonnet. The materials lab at work analyzed the failures and said it was due > to metal fatigue. > Moss replaced my radiator and sent me an identical fan, but a few weeks > later they sent out a bulletin asking anyone who had bought the six-bladed > fan to remove it immediately and return it. When I removed mine, I found > paint chipping in the exact place that the first blades broke. Moss > replaced the fan with a stainless one, but I only used that one for a short > time due to its noise. I now run a Texas Kooler and am very happy with it. > > I would venture to say that any fan that sheds a blade will do so due to > fatigue, and there is nothing practical that can be done to modify it to > reduce fatigue, which is dependent on the fan material and its mechanical > design. > > Steve Byers > HBJ8L/36666 > BJ8 Registry > Havelock, NC USA > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark > LaPierre > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 6:40 PM > To: Ron Fine; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Replacement Radiator Fan > > Sorry Ron, I have switched to the Texas Cooler but haven't experienced a > high heat issue yet , since install, to comment. > > However I did have a question on the same topic. > This fan issue has come up before but I don't recall any mention of > preventative maintenance that can be taken to prevent a blade from flying. > Has anyone > tried adding a couple of pop rivets, J B weld or even a couple of spot > welds to the fan blades to keep them in place without throwing the fans off > balance. > > I assume this would have to be done evenly on all of the blades. > > This "flying blade syndrome" puts a whole new meaning to the checking under > the hood routine. > > Mark > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as 57healey at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com Patton Dickson - http://Austin-Healeys.com - Plano, TX 1957 Austin-Healey 100-Six "Built to run 'til the road wears out." From sbyers at ec.rr.com Mon Jul 14 08:47:19 2008 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8Healeys) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 07:47:19 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Missfire followup 1 In-Reply-To: <487B57DF.4090807@comcast.net> References: <8CAB2B938ACA1E2-142C-2C88@webmail-nb08.sysops.aol.com> <487B57DF.4090807@comcast.net> Message-ID: <002501c8e5c0$84be1370$8e3a3a50$@rr.com> Bob Spidell commented: "(not sure--I got mine from Hemphill's--they still in business?)." Yeah, I think they are still in business, but if you are concerned about what kind of service/support you can expect if you experience a problem with their products, get in touch with me and I'll let you know my experience with a brand new defective splined hub. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Spidell Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 6:43 AM Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Missfire followup 1 Do yourself a favor and spring for genuine Lucas distributor cap and plug connectors. Get solid (copper) core wires and make your own secondary wiring. The plug connectors will have 15K ohm resistors to help suppress radio noise, and any plugs you can get will likely have additional resistance (I've had good performance from Champion RN12YC). Don't think you can get the Lucas cap from Moss (not sure--I got mine from Hemphill's--they still in business?), but if you get wire and plug boots they'll send a sheet listing the correct lengths for each wire (check with the salesman). For authenticity, get the two rubber O-rings to group 1&2 and 5&6 wires (any suitably sized O-ring should work). Wouldn't hurt to use silicone dielectric grease inside all connectors (at cap and plug boots). I bought the little yellow rings with the plug#--helpful plus they look cool. Of course, this is for a "stock" setup; if you get a newer style cap with push-in connectors you can run newer style wound wires. From Editorgary at aol.com Mon Jul 14 09:37:58 2008 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:37:58 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Wiring, ignition, and Carbs Message-ID: In a message dated 7/14/08 7:46:11 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > Do this and then--and only then--can you start blaming your S.U. > carburettors for all your problems ;) > As we confirmed once again on our trip down to San Diego: "90 percent of all carburetor problems are electrical." anon. 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(http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) From donham1 at cox.net Mon Jul 14 11:14:56 2008 From: donham1 at cox.net (DHam) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:14:56 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Gas mileage to conclave In-Reply-To: <20080714101908.276B418767B@autox.team.net> References: <20080714101908.276B418767B@autox.team.net> Message-ID: Could happen in about 24 months. donham ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Porter" To: "'RThrift'" ; Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 5:19 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gas mileage to conclave >I smell a revolution... > > frogeye at porterscustom.com > > Porter Customs > Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 > 505-352-1378 > 1954 BN2 > Porter Custom Bicycles > www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html > http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces+frogeye=porterscustom.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces+frogeye=porterscustom.com at autox.team.net] On > Behalf > Of RThrift > Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 9:19 PM > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gas mileage to conclave > > Nope. > > Re the champion breeding state for bad politics: That's Texas. > > Richard > > ---- Ed's Shop wrote: > WISH that was even POSSIBLE in "The Land of Blogo the THIEF" (our > 'reform' > govenor who is more of a crook than anybody before him [and GREAT 'friend' > of Obama, the do nothing IL Sen & now the do nothing US Sen] ), AKA > Illinois, Alan!! > > ILLINOIS has totally turned into the Champion 'breeding' State for 'bad' > politics!!! > > Too bad. > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as frogeye at porterscustom.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as donham1 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From bernard.johnsen at ngc.com Mon Jul 14 11:46:07 2008 From: bernard.johnsen at ngc.com (Johnsen, Bernard) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:46:07 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Volvo Timing Gears needed - No Healey Content Message-ID: <212DD23A1FC4D74BA8265F76926DF1200A53FE@XMBIL101.northgrum.com> Healey Folks - Can anyone out there help me locate a Timing Gear Set for a Volvo B16 engine ? - Bernie Johnsen 1967 BJ8 1959 PV544 in progress From kentmclean at comcast.net Mon Jul 14 12:26:26 2008 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (kentmclean at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:26:26 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Volvo Timing Gears needed - No Healey Content Message-ID: <071420081826.2954.487B9A52000150E300000B8A2212020784020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net> "Johnsen, Bernard" wrote: > Can anyone out there help me locate a Timing Gear Set for a > Volvo B16 engine ? Not me, but maybe the people at Swedish Bricks can. Sign up for their mailing list and ask them. -- Kent McLean '59 100 BN2 From jimf at frakes-eng.com Mon Jul 14 12:34:19 2008 From: jimf at frakes-eng.com (Frakes, Jim) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:34:19 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Scrap Wheels Needed. References: <20080711.080646.620.0.rd_parker@juno.com> Message-ID: LOCATION?? -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+jimf=frakes-eng.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+jimf=frakes-eng.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert PARKER Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 11:07 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Scrap Wheels Needed. Gentlemen & Ladies, I am in need of 4 scrapped wires for a project I am working on. They must be able to fit my '61 BT& 4 seater. The hubs must be in shape enough to slide on the vehicle; the wires and outside rim can be junk. Thanks for anyones help, Bob. '61 ____________________________________________________________ Sweepstakes!!! 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From rnbmail at yahoo.com Mon Jul 14 12:57:23 2008 From: rnbmail at yahoo.com (Robert Blair) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:57:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Fw: BJ8 Wheels and Tire Sizes? Final.... Message-ID: <305119.49976.qm@web37908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Listers, Thanks for all the inputs on size et al. Seems like the best choice for the BJ8 is 5 inch rims with 185/70x15 tires. Does anyone have any tire vendor recomendations other than Vredestein that makes a tire in this size???? Best, Robert N. Blair 65 Yellow BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com --- On Sat, 7/12/08, Robert Blair wrote: > From: Robert Blair > Subject: BJ* Wheels and Tire Sizes? > To: "Healey List" > Date: Saturday, July 12, 2008, 7:43 AM > Hi listers, > > Time has arrived to make a wheel and tire size decision. > Choices seem to be 1) std 4.5 or wider 5.0 inch wheels, > and 2) 165 or 185 tires. As far as I am aware, 175 are not > available in US - are they? > > So it is either: 1) 165 on 4.5, 2) 185 on 4.5, 3) 165 on > 5.0, 185 on 5.0. > > All should work, but which looks best and which works best. > if anyone could send me a pic their car wheel with these > combos it would be appreciated. I have pics of the std > 165/4.5, but the other 3 combos would be welcome, with > comments on experiences. I am not looking for the > 'fat' look, so I am interested in the 165/5.0 and > 185/5.0 combo if anyone uses that option. > > Robert > > Robert N. Blair 65 Yellow BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com > From Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com Mon Jul 14 13:49:04 2008 From: Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:49:04 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: BJ8 Wheels and Tire Sizes? Final.... In-Reply-To: <305119.49976.qm@web37908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <305119.49976.qm@web37908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D904DC8@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> Robert, I am in the market also for the same tire. So far I have only found British Wire Wheel in Fresno. Ken Freese 65 BJ8 From e-wilkins at cox.net Mon Jul 14 17:17:51 2008 From: e-wilkins at cox.net (Eric (Rick) Wilkins) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:17:51 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Question I should know the answer to Re: clutch master In-Reply-To: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D904DC8@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> References: <305119.49976.qm@web37908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D904DC8@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> Message-ID: <84665C24-5884-411B-B177-95400B3ACF44@cox.net> I'm away from my Healey and--since I finally fired it up again after a few years of it sitting in my driveway--the clutch line seems to be swollen shut. Is this something I can replace from under the car without removing the tunnel? Thanks, Rick Wilko San Diego On Jul 14, 2008, at 12:49 PM, Freese, Ken wrote: > Robert, > I am in the market also for the same tire. So far I have only found > British Wire Wheel in Fresno. > Ken Freese > 65 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as e-wilkins at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com Mon Jul 14 17:23:46 2008 From: Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:23:46 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Clutch hose In-Reply-To: <84665C24-5884-411B-B177-95400B3ACF44@cox.net> References: <305119.49976.qm@web37908.mail.mud.yahoo.com><0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D904DC8@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> <84665C24-5884-411B-B177-95400B3ACF44@cox.net> Message-ID: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D904DDD@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> Yes. I would put some plastic sheet under the resevor cap to reduce leakage then unbolt the slave from the bellhousing and let it dangle into a pan while you change the hose. Cleanliness is next to Godliness! Ken Freese 65 BJ8 - From edwjkeuer at comcast.net Mon Jul 14 17:47:51 2008 From: edwjkeuer at comcast.net (Edward Keuer) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:47:51 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Overdrive Kicks Out Message-ID: <1D8BFC7D-9B6E-4949-B1FD-544DED02F56C@comcast.net> Hi Philip, I had the same problem on my '66 BJ8 and Mark Baker had me detach one of the two wire connected to that relay and just tape it up, effectively eliminating the relay. Now when I flip off the OD, it works right away. Norman is right again! Edw. J. Keuer Wheaton, IL From healey.nut at gmail.com Mon Jul 14 18:51:40 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 08:51:40 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Overdrive Kicks Out In-Reply-To: <1D8BFC7D-9B6E-4949-B1FD-544DED02F56C@comcast.net> References: <1D8BFC7D-9B6E-4949-B1FD-544DED02F56C@comcast.net> Message-ID: Ed - Just don't forget to turn that switch off!! cccrruuunnnnch! There's a reason why the whole OD system on the healeys is set to fail "off" most of the time, I wouldn't bypass the relay system. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Edward Keuer wrote: > Hi Philip, > > I had the same problem on my '66 BJ8 and Mark Baker had me detach one > of the two wire connected to that relay and just tape it up, > effectively eliminating the relay. Now when I flip off the OD, it > works right away. > > Norman is right again! > > Edw. J. Keuer > Wheaton, IL From healey.nut at gmail.com Mon Jul 14 18:53:42 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 08:53:42 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Question I should know the answer to Re: clutch master In-Reply-To: <84665C24-5884-411B-B177-95400B3ACF44@cox.net> References: <305119.49976.qm@web37908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D904DC8@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> <84665C24-5884-411B-B177-95400B3ACF44@cox.net> Message-ID: Rick - Yes you can do it - if I recall the easiest way is to disconnect the slave from the bell housing first then let it drop and unscrew the hose. But for my money's worth, you have a roadster and taking the tunnel out of a roadster frankly doesn't take more than 10 minutes of work. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 7:17 AM, Eric (Rick) Wilkins wrote: > I'm away from my Healey and--since I finally fired it up again after > a few years of it sitting in my driveway--the clutch line seems to be > swollen shut. > > Is this something I can replace from under the car without removing > the tunnel? > > Thanks, > Rick > Wilko > San Diego From jsoderling at astound.net Mon Jul 14 18:54:47 2008 From: jsoderling at astound.net (John Soderling) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:54:47 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BJ* Wheels and Tire Sizes? References: <69195.89859.qm@web37905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00c501c8e615$60eac740$ddcfea42@Soderling> I have 165R15 Kumho tires on 5" rims and they look great, ride great and handle great. Vrooom vrooom, John Erika the Red ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Seigrist" To: Cc: "Healey List" Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ* Wheels and Tire Sizes? > Robert - > I would only put 165s on 4.5 inch rims. Kumho tires makes a decent cheap > in > this size. 185s on 4.5 inch rims will be too wide and will not look > right. > > 185 70 R15 for 5 or 5.5 inch rims. Vredestein is the current choice for > this size. Do NOT put 165s on 5 or 5.5" rims, the tires are too small for > that width of rim, and will look weird on your car. > > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '64 BJ8 > > On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Robert Blair wrote: > >> Hi listers, >> >> Time has arrived to make a wheel and tire size decision. Choices seem to >> be >> 1) std 4.5 or wider 5.0 inch wheels, and 2) 165 or 185 tires. As far as >> I >> am >> aware, 175 are not available in US - are they? >> >> So it is either: 1) 165 on 4.5, 2) 185 on 4.5, 3) 165 on 5.0, 185 on >> 5.0. >> >> All should work, but which looks best and which works best. if anyone >> could >> send me a pic their car wheel with these combos it would be appreciated. >> I >> have pics of the std 165/4.5, but the other 3 combos would be welcome, >> with >> comments on experiences. I am not looking for the 'fat' look, so I am >> interested in the 165/5.0 and 185/5.0 combo if anyone uses that option. >> >> Robert >> >> Robert N. Blair 65 Yellow BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com From tomfelts at windstream.net Mon Jul 14 19:12:50 2008 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (tomfelts at windstream.net) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:12:50 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: BJ8 Wheels and Tire Sizes? Final.... Message-ID: <20080715011250.DNOE13398.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> Universal Tire in Hershey Pa. > > From: Robert Blair > Date: 2008/07/14 Mon PM 02:57:23 EDT > To: Healey List > Subject: [Healeys] Fw: BJ8 Wheels and Tire Sizes? Final.... > > Hi Listers, Thanks for all the inputs on size et al. > > Seems like the best choice for the BJ8 is 5 inch rims with 185/70x15 tires. > > Does anyone have any tire vendor recomendations other than Vredestein that > makes a tire in this size???? > > Best, Robert N. Blair 65 Yellow BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com > > > > > --- On Sat, 7/12/08, Robert Blair wrote: > > > From: Robert Blair > > Subject: BJ* Wheels and Tire Sizes? > > To: "Healey List" > > Date: Saturday, July 12, 2008, 7:43 AM > > Hi listers, > > > > Time has arrived to make a wheel and tire size decision. > > Choices seem to be 1) std 4.5 or wider 5.0 inch wheels, > > and 2) 165 or 185 tires. As far as I am aware, 175 are not > > available in US - are they? > > > > So it is either: 1) 165 on 4.5, 2) 185 on 4.5, 3) 165 on > > 5.0, 185 on 5.0. > > > > All should work, but which looks best and which works best. > > if anyone could send me a pic their car wheel with these > > combos it would be appreciated. I have pics of the std > > 165/4.5, but the other 3 combos would be welcome, with > > comments on experiences. I am not looking for the > > 'fat' look, so I am interested in the 165/5.0 and > > 185/5.0 combo if anyone uses that option. > > > > Robert > > > > Robert N. Blair 65 Yellow BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From dcongleton at embarqmail.com Mon Jul 14 19:32:54 2008 From: dcongleton at embarqmail.com (Dallas Congleton) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:32:54 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: BJ8 Wheels and Tire Sizes? Final.... References: <305119.49976.qm@web37908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <289FAE3EE7604E568BF18AE155FE2940@your4dacd0ea75> "As far as I am aware, 175 are not available in US - are they?" Robert, 175/80R15 blackwall radials listed as BFG, is available from Coker Tire Company. I have been looking for this size and found these, but have not had any feedback from anyone using them. They are so inexpensive I have been leery of them. Maybe someone on the list has tried them and will give an appraisal.? http://store.coker.com/search.php?mode=search&by_title=Y&by_shortdescr=Y&by_fulldescr=Y&substring=175/80R15 Dallas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Blair" To: "Healey List" Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 2:57 PM Subject: [Healeys] Fw: BJ8 Wheels and Tire Sizes? Final.... > Hi Listers, Thanks for all the inputs on size et al. > > Seems like the best choice for the BJ8 is 5 inch rims with 185/70x15 > tires. > > Does anyone have any tire vendor recomendations other than Vredestein that > makes a tire in this size???? Best, Robert N. Blair 65 Yellow BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com > --- On Sat, 7/12/08, Robert Blair wrote: > >> From: Robert Blair >> Subject: BJ* Wheels and Tire Sizes? >> To: "Healey List" >> Date: Saturday, July 12, 2008, 7:43 AM >> Hi listers, >> >> Time has arrived to make a wheel and tire size decision. >> Choices seem to be 1) std 4.5 or wider 5.0 inch wheels, >> and 2) 165 or 185 tires. As far as I am aware, 175 are not >> available in US - are they? >> >> So it is either: 1) 165 on 4.5, 2) 185 on 4.5, 3) 165 on >> 5.0, 185 on 5.0. From jackson_krall at yahoo.com Mon Jul 14 19:52:48 2008 From: jackson_krall at yahoo.com (Jackson Krall) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:52:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Volvo Timing Gears needed - No Healey Content In-Reply-To: <212DD23A1FC4D74BA8265F76926DF1200A53FE@XMBIL101.northgrum.com> Message-ID: <11810.71286.qm@web52406.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Try www.autodisassemblyvolvo.com 1 800 351 9964 Best JK --- On Mon, 7/14/08, Johnsen, Bernard wrote: > From: Johnsen, Bernard > Subject: [Healeys] Volvo Timing Gears needed - No Healey Content > To: Healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Monday, July 14, 2008, 1:46 PM > Healey Folks - > Can anyone out there help me locate a Timing Gear Set for > a > Volvo B16 engine ? > - Bernie Johnsen > 1967 BJ8 > 1959 PV544 in progress From shop at justbrits.com Mon Jul 14 21:12:54 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:12:54 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Overdrive Kicks Out References: <1D8BFC7D-9B6E-4949-B1FD-544DED02F56C@comcast.net> Message-ID: <011001c8e628$acda3100$6501a8c0@shop> <> Boy Alan, are we IN agreement here!!! er UNLESS the $50 part is worth the 'chance' of destroying the O.D.!!! Gotta "know when to fold 'em, know when to hold 'em" is the way it goes as I recall!! From shop at justbrits.com Mon Jul 14 22:11:50 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:11:50 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: BJ8 Wheels and Tire Sizes? Final.... References: <305119.49976.qm@web37908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <289FAE3EE7604E568BF18AE155FE2940@your4dacd0ea75> Message-ID: <01e901c8e630$e8d5e610$6501a8c0@shop> Dallas: <> As it IS Coker Tire, I would NOT 'be leery' AS LONG AS the date codes are not over a year or 2 old!! Some info on my site in "Various Articles". Ed Please visit my site at: www.justbrits.com From philritten at aol.com Mon Jul 14 21:13:37 2008 From: philritten at aol.com (philritten at aol.com) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:13:37 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Overdrive Kicks Out In-Reply-To: <011001c8e628$acda3100$6501a8c0@shop> References: <1D8BFC7D-9B6E-4949-B1FD-544DED02F56C@comcast.net> <011001c8e628$acda3100$6501a8c0@shop> Message-ID: <8CAB43FE876C87F-7D0-B37@webmail-nf08.sim.aol.com> The person who owned my car (two owners ago) was a master mechanic and took out the relay entirely. I didn't even know I was supposed to have it until someone at the conclave told me.?My car works wonderfully without it. One person suggested I clutch when flipping the switch on and off, but it worked fine before I started doing this. Has anyone else removed it completely? Also, I haven't had any problems if I forget to turn it off except it acts like I'm in too high a gear (which clues me in) Phil -----Original Message----- From: Ed's Shop To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 8:12 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 Overdrive Kicks Out <> Boy Alan, are we IN agreement here!!! er UNLESS the $50 part is worth the 'chance' of destroying the O.D.!!! Gotta "know when to fold 'em, know when to hold 'em" is the way it goes as I recall!! Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as philritten at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive From healey.nut at gmail.com Mon Jul 14 21:33:49 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:33:49 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Overdrive Kicks Out In-Reply-To: <8CAB43FE876C87F-7D0-B37@webmail-nf08.sim.aol.com> References: <1D8BFC7D-9B6E-4949-B1FD-544DED02F56C@comcast.net> <011001c8e628$acda3100$6501a8c0@shop> <8CAB43FE876C87F-7D0-B37@webmail-nf08.sim.aol.com> Message-ID: Phil - If he really was a master mechanic, he would not have removed the relays. The relays are typically very easy and cheap to fix without replacement. Sounds to me he didn't know much about the cars. You definitely do not want to be using the OD without the relays - they are there for several very good reasons. Unless you are a racer and very knowledgeable about the cars, the relays were put in there specifically for the average user to prevent them from destroying their ODs. I'd spend the time and effort to try to rig all the relays up again, it wouldn't be a very difficult job, frankly, and will make driving the car much more pleasurable. One of the small pleasures about driving these cars is when I blip the throttle to cut the OD out of 4th coming off the highway. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:13 AM, wrote: > The person who owned my car (two owners ago) was a master mechanic and took > out the relay entirely. I didn't even know I was supposed to have it until > someone at the conclave told me.?My car works wonderfully without it. One > person suggested I clutch when flipping the switch on and off, but it worked > fine before I started doing this. Has anyone else removed it completely? > Also, I haven't had any problems if I forget to turn it off except it acts > like I'm in too high a gear (which clues me in) > > Phil > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ed's Shop > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 8:12 pm > Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 Overdrive Kicks Out > > > > < reason > why the whole OD system on the healeys is set to fail "off" most of the > time, I > wouldn't bypass the relay system.>> > > Boy Alan, are we IN agreement here!!! er UNLESS the $50 part is worth the > 'chance' of destroying the O.D.!!! > > Gotta "know when to fold 'em, know when to hold 'em" is the way it goes as > I > recall!! > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as philritten at aol.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From philritten at aol.com Mon Jul 14 21:44:56 2008 From: philritten at aol.com (philritten at aol.com) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:44:56 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Missfire followup 1 In-Reply-To: <8CAB441BA126F4D-7D0-BE8@webmail-nf08.sim.aol.com> References: <8CAB2B938ACA1E2-142C-2C88@webmail-nb08.sysops.aol.com> <487B57DF.4090807@comcast.net> <487B59F3.1060201@comcast.net> <8CAB441BA126F4D-7D0-BE8@webmail-nf08.sim.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CAB444486F9DE5-7D0-CBC@webmail-nf08.sim.aol.com> -----Original Message----- From: philritten at aol.com To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 8:26 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] Missfire followup 1 Thank you all for your input. I bought a plug socket (I was using a regular deep walled socket before) and it gave enough clearance to get #6 off. A couple of the center shafts came out of the plugs when I removed them. I pulled the slightly used plugs, cap, rotor from my project Healey and put them on and it seems to be working fine. I still hear the puffing noise, and am still getting pinging under hard acceleration. Hopefully, tweaking the timing will help get rid of the pinging. ? If I'm looking over the radiator to check the timing, BTC is right of mark correct? There is only one mark, not multiple marks like on some cars how do I judge 10 BTC? Thanks again! ! From rnbmail at yahoo.com Mon Jul 14 23:04:01 2008 From: rnbmail at yahoo.com (Robert Blair) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:04:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] BJ* Wheels and Tire Sizes? In-Reply-To: <00c501c8e615$60eac740$ddcfea42@Soderling> Message-ID: <476391.3838.qm@web37908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> John, Thanks - turns out the 165x15 is the SAME diameter as the 185/70x15 - 25.25 inches. The difference is of course the width of the tread on the road - 5.1 vs 7.4 inches - 2 more inches on the road, and of course 20mm more in tire width wall to wall. Obviously they will look different - can you post a 3/4 view jpg of your front and rear 165x15 on the 5 inch rim? Best, Robert N. Blair 65 Yellow BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com --- On Mon, 7/14/08, John Soderling wrote: > From: John Soderling > Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ* Wheels and Tire Sizes? > To: "Healey List" , "Alan Seigrist" > Date: Monday, July 14, 2008, 5:54 PM > I have 165R15 Kumho tires on 5" rims and they look > great, ride great and > handle great. > Vrooom vrooom, > John > Erika the Red > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan Seigrist" > > To: > Cc: "Healey List" > Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 6:18 PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ* Wheels and Tire Sizes? > > > > Robert - > > I would only put 165s on 4.5 inch rims. Kumho tires > makes a decent cheap > > in > > this size. 185s on 4.5 inch rims will be too wide and > will not look > > right. > > > > 185 70 R15 for 5 or 5.5 inch rims. Vredestein is the > current choice for > > this size. Do NOT put 165s on 5 or 5.5" rims, > the tires are too small for > > that width of rim, and will look weird on your car. > > > > Alan > > > > '52 A90 > > '53 BN1 > > '64 BJ8 > > > > On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Robert Blair > wrote: > > > >> Hi listers, > >> > >> Time has arrived to make a wheel and tire size > decision. Choices seem to > >> be > >> 1) std 4.5 or wider 5.0 inch wheels, and 2) 165 > or 185 tires. As far as > >> I > >> am > >> aware, 175 are not available in US - are they? > >> > >> So it is either: 1) 165 on 4.5, 2) 185 on 4.5, 3) > 165 on 5.0, 185 on > >> 5.0. > >> > >> All should work, but which looks best and which > works best. if anyone > >> could > >> send me a pic their car wheel with these combos it > would be appreciated. > >> I > >> have pics of the std 165/4.5, but the other 3 > combos would be welcome, > >> with > >> comments on experiences. I am not looking for the > 'fat' look, so I am > >> interested in the 165/5.0 and 185/5.0 combo if > anyone uses that option. > >> > >> Robert > >> > >> Robert N. Blair 65 Yellow BJ8 > rnbmail at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as rnbmail at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au Mon Jul 14 23:11:32 2008 From: sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au (sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:11:32 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] (no subject) Message-ID: <1216098691.487c3184117c8@webmail.hotkey.net.au> FWIW The most important electrical protection switch is the gearbox mounted item that cuts power to the solenoid when the gear selector mechanism is in the 1st- 2nd plane and reverse. Reverse being the critical condition with the overdrive mechanical and cone clutches. The throttle switch relay is a switching system that avoids O/D engagement at low speed/revs and high torque.None of my cars in 40 years has had the throttle connected and I have never had an O/D failure even with using the O/D in hillclimbs, sprints and fast mountain pass driving. I am sure works Rally cars did not have throttle relays fitted. QUESTION how many of todays drivers are using their accelerators to extremes? From sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au Mon Jul 14 23:11:35 2008 From: sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au (sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:11:35 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] (no subject) Message-ID: <1216098695.487c3187c9b28@webmail.hotkey.net.au> FWIW The most important electrical protection switch is the gearbox mounted item that cuts power to the solenoid when the gear selector mechanism is in the 1st- 2nd plane and reverse. Reverse being the critical condition with the overdrive mechanical and cone clutches. The throttle switch relay is a switching system that avoids O/D engagement at low speed/revs and high torque.None of my cars in 40 years has had the throttle connected and I have never had an O/D failure even with using the O/D in hillclimbs, sprints and fast mountain pass driving. I am sure works Rally cars did not have throttle relays fitted. QUESTION how many of todays drivers are using their accelerators to extremes? From rnbmail at yahoo.com Mon Jul 14 23:17:16 2008 From: rnbmail at yahoo.com (Robert Blair) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:17:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Fw: BJ8 Wheels and Tire Sizes? Final.... In-Reply-To: <289FAE3EE7604E568BF18AE155FE2940@your4dacd0ea75> Message-ID: <771912.13831.qm@web37908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi, I looked at the site and the bfg web site and no pics or specs there either - not very encouraging. Robert N. Blair 65 Yellow BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com --- On Mon, 7/14/08, Dallas Congleton wrote: > From: Dallas Congleton > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fw: BJ8 Wheels and Tire Sizes? Final.... > To: rnbmail at yahoo.com, "Healey List" > Date: Monday, July 14, 2008, 6:32 PM > "As far as I am aware, 175 are not available in US - > are they?" > > Robert, 175/80R15 blackwall radials listed as BFG, is > available from Coker > Tire Company. I have been looking for this size and found > these, but have > not had any feedback from anyone using them. They are so > inexpensive I have > been leery of them. > > Maybe someone on the list has tried them and will give an > appraisal.? > > http://store.coker.com/search.php?mode=search&by_title=Y&by_shortdescr=Y&by_f ulldescr=Y&substring=175/80R15 > > Dallas > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Blair" > To: "Healey List" > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 2:57 PM > Subject: [Healeys] Fw: BJ8 Wheels and Tire Sizes? Final.... > > > > Hi Listers, Thanks for all the inputs on size et al. > > > > Seems like the best choice for the BJ8 is 5 inch rims > with 185/70x15 > > tires. > > > > Does anyone have any tire vendor recomendations other > than Vredestein that > > makes a tire in this size???? > Best, Robert N. Blair 65 Yellow BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com > > > > --- On Sat, 7/12/08, Robert Blair > wrote: > > > >> From: Robert Blair > >> Subject: BJ* Wheels and Tire Sizes? > >> To: "Healey List" > > >> Date: Saturday, July 12, 2008, 7:43 AM > >> Hi listers, > >> > >> Time has arrived to make a wheel and tire size > decision. > >> Choices seem to be 1) std 4.5 or wider 5.0 inch > wheels, > >> and 2) 165 or 185 tires. As far as I am aware, > 175 are not > >> available in US - are they? > >> > >> So it is either: 1) 165 on 4.5, 2) 185 on 4.5, 3) > 165 on > >> 5.0, 185 on 5.0. From sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au Mon Jul 14 23:47:40 2008 From: sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au (sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:47:40 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] TIRES Message-ID: <1216100860.487c39fc9faf8@webmail.hotkey.net.au> Check www.dunloptires.com. They say the correct nominal rim size is 70% of the manufactures tire section size ( plus or minus a bit ).Therefore a 165 tire suits 4.5 inch rim, 175 a 4.8inch,185 a 5.0inch and 195 a 5.3inch. The selection criteria should be the correct width of tire to rim as that affects the amount and position at which the tire flexes = heat build-up. Next select an aspect ratio that best suits you desired overall diameter and therefore rolling circumference. Obviously we can adjust the width/section size to rim size a small degree. Joe From greylinn at ozemail.com.au Tue Jul 15 04:17:58 2008 From: greylinn at ozemail.com.au (Peter Linn) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:17:58 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] New car! Message-ID: <61E6C32E20944F3EACF5C5FC625BF338@PeterPC> G'day list I've just acquired BN1/223926 to keep the Ward Special company. This car left the factory on 10 February 1955, 2 weeks after the Ward Special's first incarnation was built. It was a Healey blue with blue RHD export, which was delivered new here in Brisbane. It very nearly met its end in a paddock after a fatal accident but was rescued by Bob Whittred who has done much of the hard work (chassis & body) with not a lot to start with. He didn't have a drivetrain so has fitted a Holden V6 and auto transmission (hmmm!) The car has a Wolseley 6/110 sourced disc brake front end, telescopic shocks and Wolseley 3.54 diff. It also has 100/6 disc wheels, widened with Chrysler rims and with knock-ons in the centre to simulate Dunlop alloys a la record breaker. I currently have to decide whether to stay with the Holden motor (compliance issues) or to source an orignal type motor. I prefer the latter route - so any Aussie listers with a 4 cylinder motor or parts thereof they're prepared to part with, let me know! Cheers Peter Linn Brisbane Oz BN1 Ward Special coupe BN1 not quite nasty boy From ah3000me at gmail.com Tue Jul 15 04:28:18 2008 From: ah3000me at gmail.com (T W) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 06:28:18 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Missfire followup 1 In-Reply-To: <8CAB444486F9DE5-7D0-CBC@webmail-nf08.sim.aol.com> References: <8CAB2B938ACA1E2-142C-2C88@webmail-nb08.sysops.aol.com> <487B57DF.4090807@comcast.net> <487B59F3.1060201@comcast.net> <8CAB441BA126F4D-7D0-BE8@webmail-nf08.sim.aol.com> <8CAB444486F9DE5-7D0-CBC@webmail-nf08.sim.aol.com> Message-ID: It's about 1/2 inch. See the Ignition Timing Specs on Jim Werner's site: http://hometown.aol.com/bgahc/jimwerner.html - Tom On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 11:44 PM, wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: philritten at aol.com > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 8:26 pm > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Missfire followup 1 > > > Thank you all for your input. I bought a plug socket (I was using a regular > deep walled socket before) and it gave enough clearance to get #6 off. A > couple of the center shafts came out of the plugs when I removed them. I > pulled the slightly used plugs, cap, rotor from my project Healey and put > them on and it seems to be working fine. I still hear the puffing noise, and > am still getting pinging under hard acceleration. Hopefully, tweaking the > timing will help get rid of the pinging. > ? > If I'm looking over the radiator to check the timing, BTC is right of mark > correct? There is only one mark, not multiple marks like on some cars how do > I judge 10 BTC? > > Thanks again! > > > > ! > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as ah3000me at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From dcongleton at embarqmail.com Tue Jul 15 06:11:39 2008 From: dcongleton at embarqmail.com (Dallas Congleton) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 08:11:39 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BJ* Wheels and Tire Sizes? References: <476391.3838.qm@web37908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4776ED995B6945B5B746F8640D849D65@your4dacd0ea75> Robert: "turns out the 165x15 is the SAME diameter as the 185/70x15 - 25.25 inches" The tire size table I am using shows the 175/80R15 as 26.02 in o.d.; tire width 6.89. The 165R15 is shown as 25.65 o.d.; tire width 6.5. This probably varies some by manufacturer, but 1/2 inch diameter on a Healey is worth considering, especially on the rear. Dallas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Blair" To: "Healey List" ; "Alan Seigrist" ; "John Soderling" Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 1:04 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ* Wheels and Tire Sizes? > John, > > Thanks - turns out the 165x15 is the SAME diameter as the 185/70x15 - > 25.25 > inches. The difference is of course the width of the tread on the road - > 5.1 > vs 7.4 inches - 2 more inches on the road, and of course 20mm more in tire > width wall to wall. Obviously they will look different - can you post a > 3/4 > view jpg of your front and rear 165x15 on the 5 inch rim? > > Best, Robert N. Blair 65 Yellow BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com From dcongleton at embarqmail.com Tue Jul 15 06:12:46 2008 From: dcongleton at embarqmail.com (Dallas Congleton) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 08:12:46 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: BJ8 Wheels and Tire Sizes? Final.... References: <305119.49976.qm@web37908.mail.mud.yahoo.com><289FAE3EE7604E568BF18AE155FE2940@your4dacd0ea75> <01e901c8e630$e8d5e610$6501a8c0@shop> Message-ID: Ed, thanks for the vote for Coker, but the old days are gone. Many of Coker's tires are now being outsourced, many to Vietnam. This may be good or bad but remember the main reason any product is outsourced is to have them made cheaper, which isn't always labor cost. We know that one of the first casualties in these facilities is quality control. I have asked around before about these 175/80R15 BFG tires and haven't found anyone that has used them. BF Goodrich doesn't list them on their site, so the tires must be a Coker imitation. Dallas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed's Shop" To: "Healey List" Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 12:11 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fw: BJ8 Wheels and Tire Sizes? Final.... > Dallas: > > <> > > As it IS Coker Tire, I would NOT 'be leery' AS LONG AS the date codes are > not over a year or 2 old!! > > Some info on my site in "Various Articles". > > Ed > Please visit my site at: www.justbrits.com From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Jul 15 06:42:13 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:42:13 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Question for Shop Owners / Restorers Only - OD Throttle Switch Message-ID: Hi Guys - I've gotten into a bit of an unsolicited pissing match with a British car mechanic off list and I'd like to get your opinion. He contacted me, I don't know anything about him. He has a client on this list who is relatively new to Healeys and his client has quizzed him about the non-functioning OD throttle switch on his Healey after reading this list. Without getting into the whole business of who said what to whom, these are the opinions: - Me - In my opinion, I counseled the mechanic that he should fix the OD throttle switch because it's relatively cheap and easy to fix, and adds to the total driving experience of a Healey. I figure if the new Healey owner doesn't know that much about Healeys, he would probably want the switch working if he knew what it did. Plus I just think its easy enough to fix and makes the car more fun to drive. - The Mechanic in Question - In his opinion he feels that the OD throttle switch is "troublesome" and wasn't put on Triumphs or Jags that use the same OD. He figures if they didn't put this switch on a Jaguar, it's pointless to try to get the switch to work on a Healey and it's better to just bypass the OD throttle switch altogether and avoid the whole thing - switch on and switch off is good enough. What say all of you professional mechanics & restoreres out there? Am I right or is he right? Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 From jimf at frakes-eng.com Tue Jul 15 07:40:12 2008 From: jimf at frakes-eng.com (Frakes, Jim) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:40:12 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Question for Shop Owners / Restorers Only - OD ThrottleSwitch References: Message-ID: Believe me, mine was out of adjustment on a recent trip and it was a pain. But, lazy as I am, I waited until I returned to mess with it. Now, it is sooooo much better, I can't believe I did not take the time on the road. Jim -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+jimf=frakes-eng.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+jimf=frakes-eng.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Alan Seigrist Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 8:42 AM To: Healey Subject: [Healeys] Question for Shop Owners / Restorers Only - OD ThrottleSwitch Hi Guys - I've gotten into a bit of an unsolicited pissing match with a British car mechanic off list and I'd like to get your opinion. He contacted me, I don't know anything about him. He has a client on this list who is relatively new to Healeys and his client has quizzed him about the non-functioning OD throttle switch on his Healey after reading this list. Without getting into the whole business of who said what to whom, these are the opinions: - Me - In my opinion, I counseled the mechanic that he should fix the OD throttle switch because it's relatively cheap and easy to fix, and adds to the total driving experience of a Healey. I figure if the new Healey owner doesn't know that much about Healeys, he would probably want the switch working if he knew what it did. Plus I just think its easy enough to fix and makes the car more fun to drive. - The Mechanic in Question - In his opinion he feels that the OD throttle switch is "troublesome" and wasn't put on Triumphs or Jags that use the same OD. He figures if they didn't put this switch on a Jaguar, it's pointless to try to get the switch to work on a Healey and it's better to just bypass the OD throttle switch altogether and avoid the whole thing - switch on and switch off is good enough. What say all of you professional mechanics & restoreres out there? Am I right or is he right? Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as jimf at frakes-eng.com http://www.team.net/archive CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and it may contain information that is privileged or confidential. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient (or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us by telephone at the number listed above or by return e-mail. From kentmclean at comcast.net Tue Jul 15 08:04:03 2008 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (kentmclean at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:04:03 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] New car! Message-ID: <071520081404.9208.487CAE53000637B2000023F82216566276020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net> Peter Linn wrote: > I currently have to decide whether to stay with the Holden motor (compliance > issues) or to source an orignal type motor. I prefer the latter route - so any > Aussie listers with a 4 cylinder motor or parts thereof they're prepared to > part with, let me know! How about a "green" Healey? Drop-in a diesel and run it on vegetable oil. Years ago some (Dennis Welch?) put a London taxi diesel 4 cylinder in a 100. IIRC, it was pretty much a straight drop-in (being similar blocks), with the difficulty being the change to the diesel bits. Good luck sourcing a 4-cylinder eninge, gas or oil burner. -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 From JNBrashear at garverengineers.com Tue Jul 15 08:08:15 2008 From: JNBrashear at garverengineers.com (Brashear, Jack, N) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:08:15 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Question for Shop Owners / Restorers Only - OD ThrottleSwitch In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603F54E8C@glitas07.garverinc.local> G'morning Alan. I do mechanical restoration of Healeys for a few local friends and customers. So for me, the correct answer has always been Owner's Choice. I bought my tricarb early in 1963 and bypassed that switch long ago and drove that way for many years before installing the 5-speed. Just a simple flip of the dash toggle switch ON or OFF was all I needed to do. I'd just hate for the newbie owner to be influenced by someone else without knowing both sides of the issue. Maybe the new guy leans toward the purist school in which case he'd demand using the OD throttle switch. Or...maybe he'll come over to the dark side...?? Jack -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+jnbrashear=garverengineers.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+jnbrashear=garverengineers.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Alan Seigrist Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 7:42 AM To: Healey Subject: [Healeys] Question for Shop Owners / Restorers Only - OD ThrottleSwitch Hi Guys - I've gotten into a bit of an unsolicited pissing match with a British car mechanic off list and I'd like to get your opinion. He contacted me, I don't know anything about him. He has a client on this list who is relatively new to Healeys and his client has quizzed him about the non-functioning OD throttle switch on his Healey after reading this list. Without getting into the whole business of who said what to whom, these are the opinions: - Me - In my opinion, I counseled the mechanic that he should fix the OD throttle switch because it's relatively cheap and easy to fix, and adds to the total driving experience of a Healey. I figure if the new Healey owner doesn't know that much about Healeys, he would probably want the switch working if he knew what it did. Plus I just think its easy enough to fix and makes the car more fun to drive. - The Mechanic in Question - In his opinion he feels that the OD throttle switch is "troublesome" and wasn't put on Triumphs or Jags that use the same OD. He figures if they didn't put this switch on a Jaguar, it's pointless to try to get the switch to work on a Healey and it's better to just bypass the OD throttle switch altogether and avoid the whole thing - switch on and switch off is good enough. What say all of you professional mechanics & restoreres out there? Am I right or is he right? Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as jnbrashear at garverengineers.com http://www.team.net/archive From richchrysler at quickclic.net Tue Jul 15 08:11:32 2008 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:11:32 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Question for Shop Owners / Restorers Only - OD ThrottleSwitch References: Message-ID: <01bc01c8e684$af16fcd0$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> The main purpose of the throttle switch (besides being fun to use) is that when correctly set it won't allow the overdrive to disengage and shock the entire power train down into the non overdrive ratio (and possibly cause harm) if the throttle is closed. In other words correctly set it requires the slight increase in throttle to raise the engine speed to meet the disengagement of the overdrive and effect a smooth downshift. It cost time and money to install every one on the cars when new. If the engineers didn't think it was necessary, they wouldn't have installed it. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Seigrist" To: "Healey" Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 8:42 AM Subject: [Healeys] Question for Shop Owners / Restorers Only - OD ThrottleSwitch > Hi Guys - > > I've gotten into a bit of an unsolicited pissing match with a British car > mechanic off list and I'd like to get your opinion. He contacted me, I > don't know anything about him. > > He has a client on this list who is relatively new to Healeys and his > client > has quizzed him about the non-functioning OD throttle switch on his Healey > after reading this list. > > Without getting into the whole business of who said what to whom, these > are > the opinions: > > - Me - In my opinion, I counseled the mechanic that he should fix the OD > throttle switch because it's relatively cheap and easy to fix, and adds > to > the total driving experience of a Healey. I figure if the new Healey > owner > doesn't know that much about Healeys, he would probably want the switch > working if he knew what it did. Plus I just think its easy enough to > fix > and makes the car more fun to drive. > > > - The Mechanic in Question - In his opinion he feels that the OD > throttle > switch is "troublesome" and wasn't put on Triumphs or Jags that use the > same > OD. He figures if they didn't put this switch on a Jaguar, it's > pointless > to try to get the switch to work on a Healey and it's better to just > bypass > the OD throttle switch altogether and avoid the whole thing - switch on > and > switch off is good enough. > > What say all of you professional mechanics & restoreres out there? Am I > right or is he right? > > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '64 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richchrysler at quickclic.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From frogeye at porterscustom.com Tue Jul 15 08:30:28 2008 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (Dave Porter) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 08:30:28 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Question for Shop Owners / Restorers Only - OD Throttle Switch In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080715143014.8449618764F@autox.team.net> Alan, I'm doing a XK150 DHC restoration as we speak. It IS equipped with the relay and throttle switch. So your guy is not entirely correct. FWIW frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 Porter Custom Bicycles www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+frogeye=porterscustom.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+frogeye=porterscustom.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frakes, Jim Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 7:40 AM To: Alan Seigrist; Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] Question for Shop Owners / Restorers Only - OD ThrottleSwitch Believe me, mine was out of adjustment on a recent trip and it was a pain. But, lazy as I am, I waited until I returned to mess with it. Now, it is sooooo much better, I can't believe I did not take the time on the road. Jim -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+jimf=frakes-eng.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+jimf=frakes-eng.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Alan Seigrist Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 8:42 AM To: Healey Subject: [Healeys] Question for Shop Owners / Restorers Only - OD ThrottleSwitch Hi Guys - I've gotten into a bit of an unsolicited pissing match with a British car mechanic off list and I'd like to get your opinion. He contacted me, I don't know anything about him. He has a client on this list who is relatively new to Healeys and his client has quizzed him about the non-functioning OD throttle switch on his Healey after reading this list. Without getting into the whole business of who said what to whom, these are the opinions: - Me - In my opinion, I counseled the mechanic that he should fix the OD throttle switch because it's relatively cheap and easy to fix, and adds to the total driving experience of a Healey. I figure if the new Healey owner doesn't know that much about Healeys, he would probably want the switch working if he knew what it did. Plus I just think its easy enough to fix and makes the car more fun to drive. - The Mechanic in Question - In his opinion he feels that the OD throttle switch is "troublesome" and wasn't put on Triumphs or Jags that use the same OD. He figures if they didn't put this switch on a Jaguar, it's pointless to try to get the switch to work on a Healey and it's better to just bypass the OD throttle switch altogether and avoid the whole thing - switch on and switch off is good enough. What say all of you professional mechanics & restoreres out there? Am I right or is he right? Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Jul 15 08:45:51 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:45:51 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] New car! In-Reply-To: <61E6C32E20944F3EACF5C5FC625BF338@PeterPC> References: <61E6C32E20944F3EACF5C5FC625BF338@PeterPC> Message-ID: Peter - I may be willing to part with a spare complete Austin Atlantic motor that I have in California. I believe it is in good rebuildable condition although the motor is seized at this time. It's complete with manifolds, starter & carbs (the original H4s on the Atlantic have taller dashpots although if you can source dashpot tops and pistons the A90's carby bodies are otherwise the same). You will have to source a new rocker (go to http://www.rockerarms.com/ and get a new roller rocker!), rocker studs and pushrods as it uses the early Atlantic style rocker & pushrod which is quite complex (but actually is a very good set up to cut rocker noise): http://picasaweb.google.com/Healey.Nut/HealeyNutSCarStuff Other than that, the motor is visually and mechanically identical (except distributor clamp is mounted with one bolt instead of on the 100 where it has two), and starter uses three mount bolts originally, but filing off the third mount makes it identical to the 100. Have a think about it. It will take me a month or two to get it all sorted. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 6:17 PM, Peter Linn wrote: > G'day list > > I've just acquired BN1/223926 to keep the Ward Special company. This car > left > the factory on 10 February 1955, 2 weeks after the Ward Special's first > incarnation was built. It was a Healey blue with blue RHD export, which was > delivered new here in Brisbane. It very nearly met its end in a paddock > after > a fatal accident but was rescued by Bob Whittred who has done much of the > hard > work (chassis & body) with not a lot to start with. He didn't have a > drivetrain so has fitted a Holden V6 and auto transmission (hmmm!) The car > has > a Wolseley 6/110 sourced disc brake front end, telescopic shocks and > Wolseley > 3.54 diff. It also has 100/6 disc wheels, widened with Chrysler rims and > with > knock-ons in the centre to simulate Dunlop alloys a la record breaker. > > I currently have to decide whether to stay with the Holden motor > (compliance > issues) or to source an orignal type motor. I prefer the latter route - so > any > Aussie listers with a 4 cylinder motor or parts thereof they're prepared to > part with, let me know! > > Cheers > > Peter Linn > Brisbane Oz > BN1 Ward Special coupe > BN1 not quite nasty boy From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Jul 15 08:46:36 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:46:36 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] New car! In-Reply-To: References: <61E6C32E20944F3EACF5C5FC625BF338@PeterPC> Message-ID: Ooops apologies to the list, that was supposed to be for Peter only. Best, Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 From randerson33 at triad.rr.com Tue Jul 15 08:55:02 2008 From: randerson33 at triad.rr.com (randerson33 at triad.rr.com) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:55:02 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: BJ8 Wheels and Tire Sizes? Final.... Message-ID: <13634273.2164121216133702893.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web27-z02> Dallas, We called and these tires were manufactured around the turn of the century. They are to old for me to use or sell. Jerry Anderson Hendrix Wire Wheel ---- Dallas Congleton wrote: > Ed, thanks for the vote for Coker, but the old days are gone. Many of > Coker's tires are now being outsourced, many to Vietnam. This may be good or > bad but remember the main reason any product is outsourced is to have them > made cheaper, which isn't always labor cost. We know that one of the first > casualties in these facilities is quality control. > I have asked around before about these 175/80R15 BFG tires and haven't found > anyone that has used them. BF Goodrich doesn't list them on their site, so > the tires must be a Coker imitation. > > Dallas > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ed's Shop" > To: "Healey List" > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 12:11 AM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fw: BJ8 Wheels and Tire Sizes? Final.... > > > > Dallas: > > > > <> > > > > As it IS Coker Tire, I would NOT 'be leery' AS LONG AS the date codes are > > not over a year or 2 old!! > > > > Some info on my site in "Various Articles". > > > > Ed > > Please visit my site at: www.justbrits.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as randerson33 at triad.rr.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From dcongleton at embarqmail.com Tue Jul 15 09:08:32 2008 From: dcongleton at embarqmail.com (Dallas Congleton) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:08:32 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: BJ8 Wheels and Tire Sizes? Final.... References: <13634273.2164121216133702893.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web27-z02> Message-ID: <5A5BDEA56B934BF0A55753853993FDFD@your4dacd0ea75> Thanks Jerry for a definitive answer. This explains the availability as this size is reported as not currently manufactured; and also the low price- I guess someone might want them for rollers on a show car. Dallas ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Dallas Congleton" Cc: "Ed's Shop" ; "Healey List" Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fw: BJ8 Wheels and Tire Sizes? Final.... > Dallas, > > We called and these tires were manufactured around the turn of the > century. > They are to old for me to use or sell. > > Jerry Anderson > Hendrix Wire Wheel > ---- Dallas Congleton wrote: >> Ed, thanks for the vote for Coker, but the old days are gone. Many of >> Coker's tires are now being outsourced, many to Vietnam. This may be good >> or >> bad but remember the main reason any product is outsourced is to have >> them >> made cheaper, which isn't always labor cost. We know that one of the >> first >> casualties in these facilities is quality control. >> I have asked around before about these 175/80R15 BFG tires and haven't >> found >> anyone that has used them. BF Goodrich doesn't list them on their site, >> so >> the tires must be a Coker imitation. >> >> Dallas From rnbmail at yahoo.com Tue Jul 15 09:19:31 2008 From: rnbmail at yahoo.com (Robert Blair) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 08:19:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] BJ* Wheels and Tire Sizes? Research is helping. In-Reply-To: <4776ED995B6945B5B746F8640D849D65@your4dacd0ea75> Message-ID: <61162.25737.qm@web37908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dallas, Thanks, I agree. This has gotten complicated due to the limited size choices available today - ie no 175R15 for the 4 1/2 or 5 rim. The original tire size for the Healey was 590x15 which had a diameter of almost exactly 26 inches. Interestingly todays closest equiv would be the 185R15 at 26 inches - which looks too fat on the std 4 1/2 inch rims. However, it looks fine on a 5 inch rim with its narrower 6 inch footprint. While a lot of folks seem to like the look of the 185/70-15 with a diameter of 25.25 inches and the 165R15 with a diameter of 25.25 inches - they are both at least 1/2 an inch under the original diameter - which is of course emphasized by the higher rear suspension. As I will use 5 rims, I am limited to the choice of 185R15, 185/70R15, or 165R15 - all within 25.25 to 26 inch dia. As I do not like the fat footprint look/about 7 inches, but do like a full wheel well, I am now leaning toward the 185R15 Vredestein which has the narrower 3 band tread pattern/6 inches and a 26 inch diameter. Make sense? Robert N. Blair 65 Yellow BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com --- On Tue, 7/15/08, Dallas Congleton wrote: > From: Dallas Congleton > Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ* Wheels and Tire Sizes? > To: rnbmail at yahoo.com, "Healey List" > Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 5:11 AM > Robert: > "turns out the 165x15 is the SAME diameter as the > 185/70x15 - 25.25 inches" > > The tire size table I am using shows the 175/80R15 as 26.02 > in o.d.; tire > width 6.89. > The 165R15 is shown as 25.65 o.d.; tire width 6.5. > > This probably varies some by manufacturer, but 1/2 inch > diameter on a Healey > is worth considering, especially on the rear. > Dallas > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Blair" > To: "Healey List" ; > "Alan Seigrist" > ; "John Soderling" > > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 1:04 AM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ* Wheels and Tire Sizes? > > > > John, > > > > Thanks - turns out the 165x15 is the SAME diameter as > the 185/70x15 - > > 25.25 > > inches. The difference is of course the width of the > tread on the road - > > 5.1 > > vs 7.4 inches - 2 more inches on the road, and of > course 20mm more in tire > > width wall to wall. Obviously they will look > different - can you post a > > 3/4 > > view jpg of your front and rear 165x15 on the 5 inch > rim? > > > > Best, Robert N. Blair 65 Yellow BJ8 > rnbmail at yahoo.com From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 15 09:54:39 2008 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 08:54:39 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: BJ8 Wheels and Tire Sizes? Final.... In-Reply-To: <771912.13831.qm@web37908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <771912.13831.qm@web37908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9095C46A-018D-40F5-AE78-D36CFA488556@sbcglobal.net> This is a site I use to show the different tire sizes, you can put in two different sizes and then compare them http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Jul 14, 2008, at 10:17 PM, Robert Blair wrote: > Hi, I looked at the site and the bfg web site and no pics or specs > there > either - not very encouraging. > > Robert N. Blair 65 Yellow BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com > > > > > --- On Mon, 7/14/08, Dallas Congleton > wrote: > >> From: Dallas Congleton >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fw: BJ8 Wheels and Tire Sizes? Final.... >> To: rnbmail at yahoo.com, "Healey List" >> Date: Monday, July 14, 2008, 6:32 PM >> "As far as I am aware, 175 are not available in US - >> are they?" >> >> Robert, 175/80R15 blackwall radials listed as BFG, is >> available from Coker >> Tire Company. I have been looking for this size and found >> these, but have >> not had any feedback from anyone using them. They are so >> inexpensive I have >> been leery of them. >> >> Maybe someone on the list has tried them and will give an >> appraisal.? >> >> > http://store.coker.com/search.php? > mode=search&by_title=Y&by_shortdescr=Y&by_f > ulldescr=Y&substring=175/80R15 >> >> Dallas >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Robert Blair" >> To: "Healey List" >> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 2:57 PM >> Subject: [Healeys] Fw: BJ8 Wheels and Tire Sizes? Final.... >> >> >>> Hi Listers, Thanks for all the inputs on size et al. >>> >>> Seems like the best choice for the BJ8 is 5 inch rims >> with 185/70x15 >>> tires. >>> >>> Does anyone have any tire vendor recomendations other >> than Vredestein that >>> makes a tire in this size???? >> Best, Robert N. Blair 65 Yellow BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com >> >> >>> --- On Sat, 7/12/08, Robert Blair >> wrote: >>> >>>> From: Robert Blair >>>> Subject: BJ* Wheels and Tire Sizes? >>>> To: "Healey List" >> >>>> Date: Saturday, July 12, 2008, 7:43 AM >>>> Hi listers, >>>> >>>> Time has arrived to make a wheel and tire size >> decision. >>>> Choices seem to be 1) std 4.5 or wider 5.0 inch >> wheels, >>>> and 2) 165 or 185 tires. As far as I am aware, >> 175 are not >>>> available in US - are they? >>>> >>>> So it is either: 1) 165 on 4.5, 2) 185 on 4.5, 3) >> 165 on >>>> 5.0, 185 on 5.0. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 15 10:04:43 2008 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:04:43 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Question for Shop Owners / Restorers Only - OD Throttle Switch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Also the early MGB thru 67 had a vacuum switch that did the same job. These switches were removed on the cars in the mid to late 60s when Laycock changed the overdrive to the J and LH type unit. As far as I know most all manufacturers used a kick down of some sort on the early overdrive cars except Triumph. The other thing is look at how many MG's, Triumph's, Jaguar's have overdrive about 20%. Then look at how many Healey's have overdrive about 80%. So when he is looking at the other marques there isn't alot to go by. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Jul 15, 2008, at 5:42 AM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > Hi Guys - > > I've gotten into a bit of an unsolicited pissing match with a > British car > mechanic off list and I'd like to get your opinion. He contacted > me, I > don't know anything about him. > > He has a client on this list who is relatively new to Healeys and > his client > has quizzed him about the non-functioning OD throttle switch on his > Healey > after reading this list. > > Without getting into the whole business of who said what to whom, > these are > the opinions: > > - Me - In my opinion, I counseled the mechanic that he should > fix the OD > throttle switch because it's relatively cheap and easy to fix, > and adds to > the total driving experience of a Healey. I figure if the new > Healey owner > doesn't know that much about Healeys, he would probably want the > switch > working if he knew what it did. Plus I just think its easy > enough to fix > and makes the car more fun to drive. > > > - The Mechanic in Question - In his opinion he feels that the OD > throttle > switch is "troublesome" and wasn't put on Triumphs or Jags that > use the same > OD. He figures if they didn't put this switch on a Jaguar, it's > pointless > to try to get the switch to work on a Healey and it's better to > just bypass > the OD throttle switch altogether and avoid the whole thing - > switch on and > switch off is good enough. > > What say all of you professional mechanics & restoreres out there? > Am I > right or is he right? > > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '64 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From helyjohn at cablespeed.com Tue Jul 15 11:56:41 2008 From: helyjohn at cablespeed.com (John Snyder) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:56:41 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Question for Shop Owners / Restorers Only - OD ThrottleSwitch Message-ID: <23B42E681CBF41B69AE1E91798233751@FRED> I agree w/ Rich. I bought a new BN7 in 1960. When I shifted out of overdrive going down a hill or coasting, it would actually "chirp" the rear tires to get the engine up to speed when it shifted. I took it to the dealer and asked what was going on (had never driven a Healey until this one). The throttle switch was not adjusted correctly at the factory, dealer corrected it, drove many wonderful miles after that. John Snyder > The main purpose of the throttle switch (besides being fun to use) is that > when correctly set it won't allow the overdrive to disengage and shock the > entire power train down into the non overdrive ratio (and possibly cause > harm) if the throttle is closed. In other words correctly set it requires > the slight increase in throttle to raise the engine speed to meet the > disengagement of the overdrive and effect a smooth downshift. > It cost time and money to install every one on the cars when new. If the > engineers didn't think it was necessary, they wouldn't have installed it. > > Rich Chrysler From Waschu2 at charter.net Tue Jul 15 11:49:40 2008 From: Waschu2 at charter.net (Wayne) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:49:40 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive Message-ID: <487CE334.7000106@charter.net> Hi Everyone, Since it was asked, I vote for lifting one wire off of the throttle switch. I hate having to fiddle with the throttle to get the overdrive to disengage. Both of my Healey's have been like this for many years. I treat the overdrive like a fifth gear, lightly touching the clutch when going in and out of overdrive. It's very easy to avoid rapid decelerations coming out of overdrive , something I was not always able to avoid using the throttle switch. Past cars of mine like my P1800, MGB and TR-6 never has a throttle switch. I agree that the reverse interlock switch is critical and will prevent damage to the overdrive. Lastly with Chinese relays, throttle switches, overdrive solenoids, voltage regulators and DB-10 relays for the lights, putting in a new part may generate new problems. I would rather have an original Lucas part cleaned and reused then the current Chinese crap. Always save your original parts, often taking them apart cleaning the contacts and removing years of dirt will restore them ready to work another 40 years. Read Norman Nock's tech book on restoring the Lucas battery switch and how to adjust voltage regulators for an example of this. I will never make fun of Lucas electrics again! If the Lucas switch is is labeled off, dim and flicker, the Chinese switch is labeled off and broken but cheap. Wayne From dan at warner-associates.com Tue Jul 15 11:52:10 2008 From: dan at warner-associates.com (Dan Stromquist) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:52:10 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Loss of Power at High Speeds Message-ID: <000001c8e6a3$8adb6170$1e00000a@DANSTROM> Well we finally got my 64 BJ8 going but the shop is going nuts trying to figure out why it loses power at top speeds. We have newly rebuild carbs by Jim Taylor, newly rebuilt dist by Advanced Dist, new wires by myself, recently replaced fuel pump, new gas line from British car Specialists and newly cleaned and sealed gas tank by Tank Renew. I made them put a fuel filter right before the carbs but they did not put it until after they ran it a while. They have supposedly cleaned the carbs out (I had Jim Taylor put in the grose jets for the floats during the rebuild). Could be they didn't do a good job cleaning the carbs here. They seem to think it is starved for fuel at top end. Any ideas? Dan From frogeye at porterscustom.com Tue Jul 15 12:03:42 2008 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (Dave Porter) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:03:42 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Loss of Power at High Speeds In-Reply-To: <000001c8e6a3$8adb6170$1e00000a@DANSTROM> Message-ID: <20080715180331.06697187649@autox.team.net> Are the throttle shafts rotating to full open with the pedal? frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 Porter Custom Bicycles www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+frogeye=porterscustom.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+frogeye=porterscustom.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dan Stromquist Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 11:52 AM To: Healey List Emails Subject: [Healeys] Loss of Power at High Speeds Well we finally got my 64 BJ8 going but the shop is going nuts trying to figure out why it loses power at top speeds. We have newly rebuild carbs by Jim Taylor, newly rebuilt dist by Advanced Dist, new wires by myself, recently replaced fuel pump, new gas line from British car Specialists and newly cleaned and sealed gas tank by Tank Renew. I made them put a fuel filter right before the carbs but they did not put it until after they ran it a while. They have supposedly cleaned the carbs out (I had Jim Taylor put in the grose jets for the floats during the rebuild). Could be they didn't do a good job cleaning the carbs here. They seem to think it is starved for fuel at top end. Any ideas? From bighealey at charter.net Tue Jul 15 12:28:55 2008 From: bighealey at charter.net (bighealey at charter.net) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:28:55 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Loss of Power at High Speeds In-Reply-To: <000001c8e6a3$8adb6170$1e00000a@DANSTROM> Message-ID: <20080715142855.AL2AE.513550.root@mp14> Pedal slipping on shaft at firewall? ---- Dan Stromquist wrote: > Well we finally got my 64 BJ8 going but the shop is going nuts trying to > figure out why it loses power at top speeds. We have newly rebuild carbs by > Jim Taylor, newly rebuilt dist by Advanced Dist, new wires by myself, > recently replaced fuel pump, new gas line from British car Specialists and > newly cleaned and sealed gas tank by Tank Renew. I made them put a fuel > filter right before the carbs but they did not put it until after they ran > it a while. They have supposedly cleaned the carbs out (I had Jim Taylor > put in the grose jets for the floats during the rebuild). Could be they > didn't do a good job cleaning the carbs here. They seem to think it is > starved for fuel at top end. Any ideas? > > > > Dan > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as bighealey at charter.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From shop at justbrits.com Tue Jul 15 14:15:27 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:15:27 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Overdrive Kicks Out References: <1D8BFC7D-9B6E-4949-B1FD-544DED02F56C@comcast.net><011001c8e628$acda3100$6501a8c0@shop> <8CAB43FE876C87F-7D0-B37@webmail-nf08.sim.aol.com> Message-ID: <017c01c8e6b7$863d3120$6501a8c0@shop> <> Then Phil, IMHO he was NOT a 'master mechanic'. Or at least NOT on Healeys!! There are only two (2) 'rules' to follow when working on 'our cars': 1] K.I.S.S. 2] Either do it RIGHT or don't do it at all !! Since he chose to remove, then he must NOT have even had a Haynes Shop Service Manual (even tho it IS MOSTLY WRONG in the electrics department)!! Might as well use Gear Lube in the motor and Engine Oil in the Rear End!! Ed From bernard.johnsen at ngc.com Tue Jul 15 13:21:22 2008 From: bernard.johnsen at ngc.com (Johnsen, Bernard) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:21:22 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Loss of Power at High Speeds In-Reply-To: <000001c8e6a3$8adb6170$1e00000a@DANSTROM> References: <000001c8e6a3$8adb6170$1e00000a@DANSTROM> Message-ID: <212DD23A1FC4D74BA8265F76926DF1200A5405@XMBIL101.northgrum.com> Hello Dan - If you have the symptom that you can accelerate up to a certain speed, say 60 or 65 MPH, but cannot maintain that speed, then your fuel pump cannot deliver enough fuel. That is, you are consuming fuel from the float chambers faster than the pump is refilling them. - Bernie Johnsen, 1967 BJ8 1959 PV544 in progress From philritten at aol.com Tue Jul 15 14:22:15 2008 From: philritten at aol.com (philritten at aol.com) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:22:15 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Overdrive Kicks Out In-Reply-To: <017c01c8e6b7$863d3120$6501a8c0@shop> References: <1D8BFC7D-9B6E-4949-B1FD-544DED02F56C@comcast.net><011001c8e628$acda3100$6501a8c0@shop> <8CAB43FE876C87F-7D0-B37@webmail-nf08.sim.aol.com> <017c01c8e6b7$863d3120$6501a8c0@shop> Message-ID: <8CAB4CF9B1FE0C1-EC0-1844@webmail-ne02.sysops.aol.com> I never said he was a Healey master mechanic. -----Original Message----- From: Ed's Shop To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 1:15 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 Overdrive Kicks Out <> Then Phil, IMHO he was NOT a 'master mechanic'. Or at least NOT on Healeys!! There are only two (2) 'rules' to follow when working on 'our cars': 1] K.I.S.S. 2] Either do it RIGHT or don't do it at all !! Since he chose to remove, then he must NOT have even had a Haynes Shop Service Manual (even tho it IS MOSTLY WRONG in the electrics department)!! Might as well use Gear Lube in the motor and Engine Oil in the Rear End!! Ed Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as philritten at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive From bspidell at comcast.net Tue Jul 15 14:52:34 2008 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:52:34 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Loss of Power at High Speeds Message-ID: <071520082052.18651.487D0E12000516D1000048DB220075894204040A0B079F9C0D@comcast.net> Could (conceivably) be a blockage in the exhaust. bs -- *************************************************************** Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net '67 Austin-Healey 3000 '56 Austin-Healey 100M *************************************************************** -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Dan Stromquist" > Well we finally got my 64 BJ8 going but the shop is going nuts trying to > figure out why it loses power at top speeds. We have newly rebuild carbs by > Jim Taylor, newly rebuilt dist by Advanced Dist, new wires by myself, > recently replaced fuel pump, new gas line from British car Specialists and > newly cleaned and sealed gas tank by Tank Renew. I made them put a fuel > filter right before the carbs but they did not put it until after they ran > it a while. They have supposedly cleaned the carbs out (I had Jim Taylor > put in the grose jets for the floats during the rebuild). Could be they > didn't do a good job cleaning the carbs here. They seem to think it is > starved for fuel at top end. Any ideas? > > > > Dan From msalter at precisionsportscar.com Tue Jul 15 15:19:24 2008 From: msalter at precisionsportscar.com (Michael Salter) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:19:24 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Loss of Power at High Speeds In-Reply-To: <000001c8e6a3$8adb6170$1e00000a@DANSTROM> References: <000001c8e6a3$8adb6170$1e00000a@DANSTROM> Message-ID: <00c701c8e6c0$752864f0$6f00a8c0@michael> Hi Dan, What you describe certainly sounds like a fuel delivery problem. To diagnose that I would suggest driving at full throttle until the loss of power is really bad then switch off the ignition, clutch in, and coast to a stop. Remove the float chamber lids and see if the float is floating on fuel or has "run aground" on the bottom of the float chamber. If it has then fuel delivery problems are the cause. My guess would be that the Tank Renew gunk has clogged up either the pump gauze (if it has one) or the fuel filter or the carburetor gauzes. I have not had a lot of luck with tank sealing products and would recommend a new tank every time. Michael Salter 100 (1953) #174 AHX12 (1953) Bugeye (1961) http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/ -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dan Stromquist Sent: July 15, 2008 1:52 PM To: Healey List Emails Subject: [Healeys] Loss of Power at High Speeds Well we finally got my 64 BJ8 going but the shop is going nuts trying to figure out why it loses power at top speeds. We have newly rebuild carbs by Jim Taylor, newly rebuilt dist by Advanced Dist, new wires by myself, recently replaced fuel pump, new gas line from British car Specialists and newly cleaned and sealed gas tank by Tank Renew. I made them put a fuel filter right before the carbs but they did not put it until after they ran it a while. They have supposedly cleaned the carbs out (I had Jim Taylor put in the grose jets for the floats during the rebuild). Could be they didn't do a good job cleaning the carbs here. They seem to think it is starved for fuel at top end. Any ideas? Dan _______________________________________________ From maxandreb1 at yahoo.com Tue Jul 15 15:32:33 2008 From: maxandreb1 at yahoo.com (Maurice Maxwell) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:32:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] fuel mileage Message-ID: <194102.17980.qm@web58212.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Ethanol is less energy dense than gasoline. The use of ethanol from agriculture products is a political item, not a conservation move. Actually the production of ethanol in fuel causes more greenhouse gases than the production of straight gasoline. It is a lose-lose game. Once there were two hillbillies talking and one said to the other that the 10% alcohol-90% gasoline would not sell well. The other said, "Why?" The first replied, "Cause it tastes turrible." This should have put an end to using corn for fuel. It is much better in a glass. Max 1961 BT7 From mrfinespanner at earthlink.net Tue Jul 15 17:05:54 2008 From: mrfinespanner at earthlink.net (Mr. Finespanner) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:05:54 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Question for Shop Owners / Restorers Only - OD Message-ID: <00be01c8e6cf$56d3a9b0$7784f904@elcomputero> Alan, I'm with Rich on this one. The throttle switch is there to prevent negative torque on the overdrive unit when the OD is switched off. Negative torque, or, in other words, turning in the wrong direction, will hand grenade the uni-directional roller bearing clutch which is only allowed to turn one way (hence the name "uni-directional"). This is the same reason why the OD should never be on in reverse, which is one purpose of the switch for the gear selector. If these 2 switches are not functioning correctly the roller bearing clutch can explode and create an expensive mess. This guy can't be much of a Brit car mechanic if he doesn't understand something this basic. regards, Doug Reid, 18G Motorworks Message: 12 Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:42:13 +0800 From: "Alan Seigrist" Subject: [Healeys] Question for Shop Owners / Restorers Only - OD Throttle Switch To: Healey Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Guys - I've gotten into a bit of an unsolicited pissing match with a British car mechanic off list and I'd like to get your opinion. He contacted me, I don't know anything about him. He has a client on this list who is relatively new to Healeys and his client has quizzed him about the non-functioning OD throttle switch on his Healey after reading this list. Without getting into the whole business of who said what to whom, these are the opinions: - Me - In my opinion, I counseled the mechanic that he should fix the OD throttle switch because it's relatively cheap and easy to fix, and adds to the total driving experience of a Healey. I figure if the new Healey owner doesn't know that much about Healeys, he would probably want the switch working if he knew what it did. Plus I just think its easy enough to fix and makes the car more fun to drive. - The Mechanic in Question - In his opinion he feels that the OD throttle switch is "troublesome" and wasn't put on Triumphs or Jags that use the same OD. He figures if they didn't put this switch on a Jaguar, it's pointless to try to get the switch to work on a Healey and it's better to just bypass the OD throttle switch altogether and avoid the whole thing - switch on and switch off is good enough. What say all of you professional mechanics & restoreres out there? Am I right or is he right? Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 From e-wilkins at cox.net Tue Jul 15 17:15:40 2008 From: e-wilkins at cox.net (Eric (Rick) Wilkins) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:15:40 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Question for Shop Owners / Restorers Only - OD In-Reply-To: <00be01c8e6cf$56d3a9b0$7784f904@elcomputero> References: <00be01c8e6cf$56d3a9b0$7784f904@elcomputero> Message-ID: <27C42F5C-66E3-406A-9D17-7F778D5DC339@cox.net> I have to agree. If you are having a pissing match, this is pretty good pissing. It just takes a few minutes to fix the switch, even with the Haynes instructions. Wilko-my-Healey-runs-again San Diego On Jul 15, 2008, at 4:05 PM, Mr. Finespanner wrote: > Alan, > I'm with Rich on this one. The throttle switch is there to prevent > negative torque on the overdrive unit when the OD is switched off. > Negative torque, or, in other words, turning in the wrong direction, > will hand grenade the uni-directional roller bearing clutch which is > only allowed to turn one way (hence the name "uni-directional"). > This is the same reason why the OD should never be on in reverse, > which is one purpose of the switch for the gear selector. If these 2 > switches are not functioning correctly the roller bearing clutch can > explode and create an expensive mess. This guy can't be much of a > Brit car mechanic if he doesn't understand something this basic. > regards, > Doug Reid, 18G Motorworks From rdavies1 at cox.net Tue Jul 15 17:17:35 2008 From: rdavies1 at cox.net (Ron Davies) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:17:35 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Question for Shop Owners / Restorers Only - OD In-Reply-To: <00be01c8e6cf$56d3a9b0$7784f904@elcomputero> References: <00be01c8e6cf$56d3a9b0$7784f904@elcomputero> Message-ID: <07c601c8e6d0$f74b6a80$6401a8c0@OfficeDell> Just as an historical note, I had a 64 BJ8 in 1965 as my daily driver. I only found out recently from the list (and my current 67 BJ8) that there was such a thing as a throttle switch, ie after flipping the dash toggle switch you had to press on the throttle to disengage the overdrive. As a 16yo my one year old '64 was set so that flipping the toggle immediately disengaged the OD and I used it that way for 70,000 miles without knowing any differently. I drove that car very hard, up and down mountain roads on Ski Patrol. I also didn't know you weren't supposed to back up with the toggle in OD. I must have done that a hundred times. The car ran great and I never had any OD issues. Must have been lucky but it does say that setting it up that way doesn't ALWAYS mean disaster. Ron Davies SoCal 67 BJ8 97 DB7 From shop at justbrits.com Tue Jul 15 19:38:53 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:38:53 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Loss of Power at High Speeds References: <000001c8e6a3$8adb6170$1e00000a@DANSTROM> <00c701c8e6c0$752864f0$6f00a8c0@michael> Message-ID: <040a01c8e6e4$b505fe60$6501a8c0@shop> <> GOTTA agree with Michael folks, as I have personally BTDT!!! And on very FIRST voyage with "to become wife" and a night in Toledo, OH AND in a bar for He||!! AND with CONTINUED (numerous times) sentence of: "I am getting on a plane in the morning and FLYING (WELL stressed) home and I am NEVER getting in that dam*ed car AGAIN (yes, STRESSED) ever!!!!!" Very fortunately, the above did NOT occur, I FIXED Hortense, we made the Conclave (Harrisburg, PA) and had a BLAST. Do any of you (Rich C. comes to mind) re-call Hortense with a 5 gallon fuel can in the boot?? Just another LBC day to me but to a VERY 'virgin' LBCer, it is a wonder I was not 'taken care of in my sleep' that nite!!! LOL From sjnnock at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 15 18:45:21 2008 From: sjnnock at sbcglobal.net (Norman Nock) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:45:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Steering box Message-ID: <433927.9375.qm@web83303.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> --- Norman Nock wrote: > Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:25:45 -0700 (PDT) > From: Norman Nock > Subject: Steering box > To: Tadeusz Malkiewicz > > CC: healey at auto.team.net > > > Check page 19-29-21 Austin Healey front suspension > Norman Nock > > --- Tadeusz Malkiewicz > > wrote: > > > Yes, > > > > I got it - many thanks. But to be honest I cannot > > find the article of > > the steering box set-up.. > > > > Thanks, Tadek > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Norman Nock [mailto:sjnnock at sbcglobal.net] > > Sent: 15 lipca 2008 01:26 > > To: Tadeusz Malkiewicz > > Subject: Tech Talk book > > > > > > > > > > did you receive my book we sent in April ???? > > Norman Nock From tomfelts at windstream.net Tue Jul 15 19:37:26 2008 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (tomfelts at windstream.net) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:37:26 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Loss of Power at High Speeds Message-ID: <20080716013726.SXJE29060.ispmxmta06-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> Which could mean a clogged fuel filter inside the tank. > > From: "Johnsen, Bernard" > Date: 2008/07/15 Tue PM 03:21:22 EDT > To: "Dan Stromquist" > CC: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Loss of Power at High Speeds > > Hello Dan - > If you have the symptom that you can accelerate up to a certain > speed, say 60 or 65 MPH, but cannot maintain that speed, then your fuel > pump cannot deliver enough fuel. That is, you are consuming fuel from > the float chambers faster than the pump is refilling them. > - Bernie Johnsen, > 1967 BJ8 > 1959 PV544 in progress > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From bn1 at pacbell.net Tue Jul 15 19:39:13 2008 From: bn1 at pacbell.net (Mr. Bill) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:39:13 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: BJ8 Wheels and Tire Sizes? Final.... In-Reply-To: <9095C46A-018D-40F5-AE78-D36CFA488556@sbcglobal.net> References: <771912.13831.qm@web37908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9095C46A-018D-40F5-AE78-D36CFA488556@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <487D5141.9070104@pacbell.net> While slightly off the subject, maybe we can finally put one debate to rest. I like a very full wheel well and run Dunlop 205/65R15's on Dayton SS/chrome 6" tubeless 72's. Because I have an early BN1 with the smallest front wheel wells, I've been told over and over: No can do, they'll rub! And that also came from some reported "experts". Well, John Nikas drove my car to the fastest production 100 in the Gymkhana at Conclave 2008 and there was nary a rub inside or out! Case closed? Bill Barnett '53 BN1 with FAT footprints :-) David Nock wrote: > This is a site I use to show the different tire sizes, you can put in > two different sizes and then compare them > > http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html From cnaarndt at gmail.com Tue Jul 15 20:44:19 2008 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:44:19 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: BJ8 Wheels and Tire Sizes? Final.... In-Reply-To: <487D5141.9070104@pacbell.net> References: <771912.13831.qm@web37908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9095C46A-018D-40F5-AE78-D36CFA488556@sbcglobal.net> <487D5141.9070104@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <751d05480807151944g554a4781yf92f0752a8b8232c@mail.gmail.com> Hi All, To clarify what Bill Barnett BN1 said, since his is an early car, before body number 1,000, its front wheel arches measure 9 1/2 inches from the top of the arch to the fender beading rather than the standard 9 inches of the later BN1s. Not a lot of room. Remember that the BN2s through BJ8 had front arches measuring only 7 1/2 inches. Curt Arndt Carlsbad, CA '55 BN1, '60 AN5 :{) '72 RWA MG Midget On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Mr. Bill wrote: > While slightly off the subject, maybe we can finally put one debate to > rest. > > I like a very full wheel well and run Dunlop 205/65R15's on Dayton > SS/chrome 6" tubeless 72's. Because I have an early BN1 with the > smallest front wheel wells, I've been told over and over: No can do, > they'll rub! And that also came from some reported "experts". > > Well, John Nikas drove my car to the fastest production 100 in the > Gymkhana at Conclave 2008 and there was nary a rub inside or out! Case > closed? > > Bill Barnett > '53 BN1 with FAT footprints :-) > > > David Nock wrote: > > This is a site I use to show the different tire sizes, you can put in > > two different sizes and then compare them > > > > http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as cnaarndt at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From richard.ewald at gmail.com Tue Jul 15 21:58:17 2008 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:58:17 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Question for Shop Owners / Restorers Only - OD In-Reply-To: References: <00be01c8e6cf$56d3a9b0$7784f904@elcomputero> Message-ID: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 8:40 PM, Richard Ewald wrote: > This doesn't seem to make a lot of sense to me. Negative torque? I think > you misunderstand the purpose of the one-way clutch (sprague clutch if your > prefer) The one way clutch will rotate freely in one direction, and lock up > in the other. Just like a 3/8" hand ratchet. You can hold the socket > stationary and turn the handle, or hold the handle stationary and turn the > socket, neither action will harm the ratchet. > So why a one way clutch? The reason for it is because the surface area of > the cone clutch is very small and is not capable of transmitting the power > of the engine without slipping. If you look at the exploded diagram of the > overdrive you will see that the one way is used in direct drive. without the > one way clutch you would spin and burn up the cone clutch with the power of > the engine. > Here is a link to a design and function document for a later type Laycock > OD used on a Volvo (basic design of the planetary gear set / one way are > identical, hydraulics differ) > http://www.volvoclub.org.uk/faq/TransmissionManual.html#ManualM46LaycockOverdriveUnitBasicOperationYou will find a link on that page, for an exploded diagram. > For what its worth, the owner's manual for a Volvo 240 Turbo stick shift > contained a warning that if turbo boost was achieved in reverse (when the > one way is non-functional) slippage of the cone clutch would occur and this > was normal! So putting power to a one way clutch in the wrong direction > won't hurt anything. If you think about it, every time you lift off the > gas, the rear wheels are trying to overrun the engine. Damage to the one > way clutch does not occur. > > My personal Wild Assed Guess is that the throttle switch is to reduce the > shock on the rest of the drive line, such as u-joints, trans mount, rear > axle mounts etc. By forcing you to open the throttle the revs are brought > up and there is not as big a shock as the OD disengages. Also opening the > throttle would tend to limit the manifold vacuum a bit which would limit the > amount of oil sucked past the rings and valve guides (something modern cars > do as a matter of course). I would also note that throttle switches are not > used on other cars that used these units. > Rick (Who used to teach trans and OD rebuilding for Volvo Cars) > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 4:05 PM, Mr. Finespanner < > mrfinespanner at earthlink.net> wrote: > >> Alan, >> I'm with Rich on this one. The throttle switch is there to prevent >> negative torque on the overdrive unit when the OD is switched off. From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Jul 15 22:04:27 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:04:27 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: BJ8 Wheels and Tire Sizes? Final.... In-Reply-To: <487D5141.9070104@pacbell.net> References: <771912.13831.qm@web37908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9095C46A-018D-40F5-AE78-D36CFA488556@sbcglobal.net> <487D5141.9070104@pacbell.net> Message-ID: Bill - I used to have 205 65s on my BJ8 and the wheels stuck out enough that one time I hit a pretty hard bump and the tire hit the edge of the fender and caused it to crack the bondo that was in there (this was 1986 when lots of bondo was the norm for repairing these cars, no jokes please!). I would imagine this would be an issue on the early BN1 (I have one) unless you put stiffer springs and shocks on it. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:39 AM, Mr. Bill wrote: > While slightly off the subject, maybe we can finally put one debate to > rest. > > I like a very full wheel well and run Dunlop 205/65R15's on Dayton > SS/chrome 6" tubeless 72's. Because I have an early BN1 with the > smallest front wheel wells, I've been told over and over: No can do, > they'll rub! And that also came from some reported "experts". > > Well, John Nikas drove my car to the fastest production 100 in the > Gymkhana at Conclave 2008 and there was nary a rub inside or out! Case > closed? > > Bill Barnett > '53 BN1 with FAT footprints :-) From rnbmail at yahoo.com Tue Jul 15 22:12:16 2008 From: rnbmail at yahoo.com (Robert Blair) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:12:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Fw: BJ8 Wheels and Tire Sizes? Final.... In-Reply-To: <487D5141.9070104@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <531036.73347.qm@web37904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Wow, sounds like I will be very safe with 185R15 on the no rubbing issue. But I am not not a wheel well expert on early vs late cars. Robert N. Blair 65 Yellow BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com --- On Tue, 7/15/08, Mr. Bill wrote: > From: Mr. Bill > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fw: BJ8 Wheels and Tire Sizes? Final.... > To: "Healey List" > Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 6:39 PM > While slightly off the subject, maybe we can finally put one > debate to rest. > > I like a very full wheel well and run Dunlop > 205/65R15's on Dayton > SS/chrome 6" tubeless 72's. Because I have an > early BN1 with the > smallest front wheel wells, I've been told over and > over: No can do, > they'll rub! And that also came from some reported > "experts". > > Well, John Nikas drove my car to the fastest production 100 > in the > Gymkhana at Conclave 2008 and there was nary a rub inside > or out! Case > closed? > > Bill Barnett > '53 BN1 with FAT footprints :-) > > > David Nock wrote: > > This is a site I use to show the different tire sizes, > you can put in > > two different sizes and then compare them > > > > http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as rnbmail at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From rnbmail at yahoo.com Tue Jul 15 22:19:50 2008 From: rnbmail at yahoo.com (Robert Blair) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:19:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] BJ* Wheels and Tire Sizes? Research is helping. Message-ID: <529357.62981.qm@web37901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Truncated email ........... Robert N. Blair 65 Yellow BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com --- On Tue, 7/15/08, Robert Blair wrote: > From: Robert Blair > Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ* Wheels and Tire Sizes? Research is helping. > To: "Dallas Congleton" > Cc: "Healey List" > Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 9:03 PM > Dallas, > > I have worried about the wide Vredestein look also, but, if > you notice the tread pattern on the 185/70R15 is > different/4+ ribs - the 185R15 has three ribs and so the > tread does not apprear to overhang the side wall like a > truck tire. I do not like the look of the wider footprint > 185/70R15 and prefer the 185R15 std. The road contact is > adequate for normal driving - especially on the wider 5 > inch rim. Remember stock was a 590/15 on a > 4 1/2 rim > > By going with the 185R15, you get the near correct 26/26.25 > inch diameter instead of the 25.25 of the 185/70R15 - better > gas milage and more accurate speedo reading. And you get > the narrower look of the 3 tread footprint and the extra > wheel arch fill of the 5 inch rim and the full 26 inch > diameter tire. > > And they are available from BWW for $140 each here in N Cal > - according to the web site. > > Michelin obviously is not interested in the old brits > market - so forget about em - for now - they want the > porsche biz. > > So I am leaning towards Vredestein 185R15 on 5 inch Dayton > 72 spoke chrome wires - the best balance of looks/wheel > arch fill [and my BJ8 is lowered at the rear as I do not > like the huge over tire gap created by the factory raised > suspension, correct 26 inch diameter, and price. The > narrower 185 vs 185/70 cross section width should eliminate > the reported rubbing on full lock etc. > > Decision time ..........any serious flaws in my theory > here? > > Robert N. Blair 65 Yellow BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com > From sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au Tue Jul 15 22:52:38 2008 From: sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au (sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:52:38 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: BJ8 Wheels and Tire Sizes? Final.... In-Reply-To: <531036.73347.qm@web37904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <531036.73347.qm@web37904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1216183958.487d7e968bb9a@webmail.hotkey.net.au> Quoting Robert Blair : > Wow, sounds like I will be very safe with 185R15 on the no rubbing issue. > But > I am not not a wheel well expert on early vs late cars. > > Robert N. Blair 65 Yellow BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com > > Further comments to consider. 185 section width by itself does not provide all the dimensions affecting the decision. Aspect ratio will determine the wall height of the tyre. This then affects how the tire fills the wheel opening and the rolling rarius/circumference. That is 185 x 70 the height is 705 of 185 mm of width. 185 x 45 is 45% of the 185mm of width. This would give a much greater clearence to the wheel opening. Also a nominal wheel width can be laced with spokes to change the offset of the wheel rim. In Australia owners order from the Dayton agent four 6inch or 5inch wheels ( your choice ) but with a further inset rim for the front and further out set wheel rim for the rear. This is to manage the different clearence requirements of front to back. Joe From sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au Tue Jul 15 23:03:19 2008 From: sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au (sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:03:19 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Yellow BJ8 Message-ID: <1216184599.487d81173741a@webmail.hotkey.net.au> Yellow BJ8's are quite rare on the ground but back in the dim dark ages the very second issue of the British magazine 'Thoroughbred and Classic Cars' featured a yellow BJ8 on the cover. At that time 1972 ? Healeys were not featured in many mags. especially not front cover colour shots. First issue had an MG.TC on the cover. Where are they now? Joe From rnbmail at yahoo.com Tue Jul 15 23:59:09 2008 From: rnbmail at yahoo.com (Robert Blair) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Yellow BJ8 In-Reply-To: <1216184599.487d81173741a@webmail.hotkey.net.au> Message-ID: <706249.54806.qm@web37902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello, My 65 US car 32038 is not an original yellow - it was Healey Blue originally as shown by the sheet. It was a crapy spray can BRG when I got it with a plastic tan interior. Now it is a bit more yellow that Primrose yellow, with a dark red leather interior. It will have 5 inch chrome dayton wheels. I have authored the first two parts to the resto article which have been published in the healey mags - the third is coming in the fall as the car is finishing up. Not a concours job - just a very nice driver - for example it has a push button starter on the dash, front fender vents, and the rear is lowered to BJ7 appearance. Will look nice - I think. Robert N. Blair 65 Yellow BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com --- On Tue, 7/15/08, sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au wrote: > From: sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au > Subject: [Healeys] Yellow BJ8 > To: rnblair at yahoo.com > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 10:03 PM > Yellow BJ8's are quite rare on the ground but back in > the dim dark ages the > very second issue of the British magazine 'Thoroughbred > and Classic Cars' > featured a yellow BJ8 on the cover. At that time 1972 ? > Healeys were not > featured in many mags. especially not front cover colour > shots. > First issue had an MG.TC on the cover. Where are they now? > Joe > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as rnbmail at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au Wed Jul 16 01:00:47 2008 From: sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au (sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:00:47 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Racing 3000 BJ7 & 8 Message-ID: <1216191647.487d9c9f0ea7a@webmail.hotkey.net.au> I am interesred in posters and advertisments of the period that show works or other Healeys being raced.For example I have a Champion Spark advert from a mag. showing a Healey in profile. The most interesting item is a vinyl sticker on a hardtop window that was produced by Castrol. The text says 'class winners' and each end has the circular Castrol emblem. Has anyone seen these? Joe From peter at easterton.com Wed Jul 16 01:50:52 2008 From: peter at easterton.com (Peter Hunt) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 08:50:52 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Healey, and other sports car tyres Message-ID: <005b01c8e718$ac8e56e0$0301a8c0@oemcomputer> Hi, Whilst searching for a new set of tyres for my endurance ' 62 BT7 Healey, I came across the following website which offers a lot of interesting and useful data on tyres, especially for sports cars worldwide. www.longstonetyres.co.uk For our Around the World trip on 2000, I fitted Michelin XCA Plus 185R15C 8 ply tyres set at 45 psi (3.06 bar). These tyres are usually used on light commercial vans. The reason for choosing these was to get the best ground clearance, a rigid sidewall and the best mileage. Currently they have done 35, 000 miles without a puncture and are good for another 5,000 miles but will be changed shortly as they are past their use by date. The one big downside of these hard compound Michelin's is that they do not grip very well in the wet and are even more useless in muddy conditions as I found out on a timed section out of Dawson City. My navigator (wife) nearly instigated divorce proceedings as we were going sideways at rally speed for a lot of the time - gets the adrenaline going though! My choice has been narrowed down to either the Vredestein 185/70 HR15 Classic tyre or the Michelin 180HR15 XAS. The Michelin will, however, give me another 1" (2.54 cms) in overall diameter which could be critical if we go off on another endurance rally - the full length Duralamin skid pan takes up 1" below the chassis rails. The tyres are mounted on 5J Austin A90 steel wheels which are of a slightly heavier duty steel than the 4.5J. The 4.5" wheels are not however wide enough for 185 tyres. Regards, Peter Hunt ' 62 BT7 From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Jul 16 04:02:40 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:02:40 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Healey, and other sports car tyres In-Reply-To: <005b01c8e718$ac8e56e0$0301a8c0@oemcomputer> References: <005b01c8e718$ac8e56e0$0301a8c0@oemcomputer> Message-ID: Peter - Not only is their website good, I can tell you their service, tire selection and delivery times are incredible. Shipping isn't all that expensive either. This is definitely a top option for tires for people who don't live in the United States. Downside are the prices are in pounds, but for some of the crazy cars that I have (like the Atlantic and Jag Mk IX) tires (tyres!) from these guys are a godsend! Cheers, Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Peter Hunt wrote: > Hi, > > Whilst searching for a new set of tyres for my endurance ' 62 BT7 Healey, I > came across the following website which offers a lot of interesting and > useful > data on tyres, especially for sports cars worldwide. > > www.longstonetyres.co.uk From tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl Wed Jul 16 07:04:59 2008 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:04:59 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Question for Shop Owners / Restorers Only - OD Throttle Message-ID: <000001c8e744$8f281420$0200a8c0@tm4> Alan, I have driven both, (Volvo 1800S without any OD switch protection) and my BN2. I am fascinated how the switch works. It's a bit like driving a car with manual gearbox where the last 5th gear is automatic. I hate automatic transmissions, but I have to admit I definitely do like the way the OD works on the Healey. Driving switch-less OD car is a bit more pain - you always have to use the clutch when getting out of the OD and accelerate when going into OD.. Norman, none of the Volvos had the OD switch, and there were quite a few of them: almost all the 1800s (almost 50000 cars), a few of the Amazons, and than the 140s. (The 240 also used the Laycock OD, but I think it was some newer type.) So, my Vote is for the OD with the switch. Tadek. PS. I begun to think few weeks ago how to install the switch on my Volvo 1800S... ;-) From glemon at neb.rr.com Wed Jul 16 08:07:40 2008 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (glemon at neb.rr.com) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 9:07:40 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Question for Shop Owners / Restorers Only - OD Throttle Message-ID: <24095928.1519781216217260289.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web20-z02> I am not a shop owner, but since everybody else has weighed iin I will as well, the short answer for me is I like the throttle switch, but in my opinion you don't need it. It was part of the fun driving the BN1 to flip it out of overdrive...then blip the throttle to actually get it out of OD, the sounds and sensations add to the driving fun. But I really don't think it is NEEDED and it is personal preference relating to your feeling about the reliability of the part in question, originality and the general driving experience. You can jam your later Healeys into 1st gear while rolling, but you shouldn't, and for your car and wallets sake I hope you don't. Likewise you shouldn't flip overdrive off without blipping the throttle, in my opinion no clutch is needed, but you can do it the way (if you don't do it right with the clutch and throttle though you can still strain the O/D), it is called driving the car right, and takes the strain off the O/D and you should have no problems without having a throttle switch if you drive this way. Likewise you let off a little bit to let the revs match the O/D on engagement. As others have said you can even treat the o/d worse than that and it may not have a problem, but then again you might and with the time and cost of a rebuild I wouldn't recommend it. Greg Lemon From kentmclean at comcast.net Wed Jul 16 09:02:02 2008 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (kentmclean at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:02:02 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Question for Shop Owners / Restorers Only - OD Throttle Message-ID: <071620081502.18.487E0D6A000A2495000000122216566276020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net> Tadeusz Malkiewicz wrote: > I have driven both, (Volvo 1800S without any OD switch protection) and my > BN2. I am fascinated how the switch works. It's a bit like driving a car > with manual gearbox where the last 5th gear is automatic. I hate automatic > transmissions, but I have to admit I definitely do like the way the OD works > on the Healey. The OD throttle switch gets my vote, too. My first car, a '59 100/6 bought c. 1969, had OD with the switch. It didn't work when I first got it. I didn't even know about it. But one day, mucking around with the transmission cover off, I found a loose wire? Cleaned a connection? I forget, but the point is, it made the switch work. When properly working, the switch changes the behavior of the car as well as how you drive it. On that 100/6, if revs dropped too low, it would switch out of OD and into the straight gear, like an automatic. It was a nice feature. -- Kent McLean '59 100 BN2 From sbyers at ec.rr.com Wed Jul 16 09:15:40 2008 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8Healeys) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 08:15:40 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Yellow BJ8 In-Reply-To: <706249.54806.qm@web37902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1216184599.487d81173741a@webmail.hotkey.net.au> <706249.54806.qm@web37902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001201c8e756$cf208dc0$6d61a940$@rr.com> Of 7,085 cars currently included in the BJ8 registry (not all of them have colors recorded), there are only 8 that are documented as Primrose and none of them are documented as original Primrose cars. 11 are "yellow". One is yellow over white, and one (mine!) is yellow over black. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Blair Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 10:59 PM To: rnblair at yahoo.com; sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Yellow BJ8 Hello, My 65 US car 32038 is not an original yellow - it was Healey Blue originally as shown by the sheet. It was a crapy spray can BRG when I got it with a plastic tan interior. Now it is a bit more yellow that Primrose yellow, with a dark red leather interior. It will have 5 inch chrome dayton wheels. I have authored the first two parts to the resto article which have been published in the healey mags - the third is coming in the fall as the car is finishing up. Not a concours job - just a very nice driver - for example it has a push button starter on the dash, front fender vents, and the rear is lowered to BJ7 appearance. Will look nice - I think. Robert N. Blair 65 Yellow BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com ----------------------------- > Yellow BJ8's are quite rare on the ground but back in > the dim dark ages the > very second issue of the British magazine 'Thoroughbred > and Classic Cars' > featured a yellow BJ8 on the cover. At that time 1972 ? > Healeys were not > featured in many mags. especially not front cover colour > shots. > First issue had an MG.TC on the cover. Where are they now? > Joe From bspidell at comcast.net Wed Jul 16 09:27:51 2008 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:27:51 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Question for Shop Owners / Restorers Only - OD Throttle Message-ID: <071620081527.1209.487E13770008B75D000004B9220075043804040A0B079F9C0D@comcast.net> re: "On that 100/6, if revs dropped too low, it would switch out of OD and into the straight gear, like an automatic" That's not what the O/D throttle ("kickdown") switch is supposed to do. Sounds like that car had a marginal/weak oil pump in the O/D. bs -- *************************************************************** Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net '67 Austin-Healey 3000 '56 Austin-Healey 100M *************************************************************** -------------- Original message ---------------------- > > The OD throttle switch gets my vote, too. My first car, a '59 100/6 bought > c. 1969, had OD with the switch. It didn't work when I first got it. I didn't > even know about it. But one day, mucking around with the transmission > cover off, I found a loose wire? Cleaned a connection? I forget, but the > point is, it made the switch work. When properly working, the switch > changes the behavior of the car as well as how you drive it. On that > 100/6, if revs dropped too low, it would switch out of OD and into the > straight gear, like an automatic. It was a nice feature. > > -- > Kent McLean > '59 100 BN2 From bernard.johnsen at ngc.com Wed Jul 16 09:46:18 2008 From: bernard.johnsen at ngc.com (Johnsen, Bernard) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:46:18 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Volvo Timing Gears needed - No Healey Content - Thank You In-Reply-To: <212DD23A1FC4D74BA8265F76926DF1200A53FE@XMBIL101.northgrum.com> References: <212DD23A1FC4D74BA8265F76926DF1200A53FE@XMBIL101.northgrum.com> Message-ID: <212DD23A1FC4D74BA8265F76926DF1200A5408@XMBIL101.northgrum.com> To All who replied to my request for help with timing gears - Thank you all for taking the time to respond. I have several leads which I am pursuing. -Bernie Johnsen 1967 BJ8 1959 PV544 in progress From kentmclean at comcast.net Wed Jul 16 10:05:12 2008 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (kentmclean at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:05:12 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Question for Shop Owners / Restorers Only - OD Throttle Message-ID: <071620081605.16613.487E1C3800001B89000040E52215578674020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net> Bob Spidell wrote: > re: > "On that 100/6, if revs dropped too low, it would switch out of OD and into the > straight gear, like an automatic" > > That's not what the O/D throttle ("kickdown") switch is supposed to do. Sounds > like that car had a marginal/weak oil pump in the O/D. That's too bad. I rather liked it. IIRC, when you brought the revs back up and then let off the gas, the OD would kick back in. -- -- Kent McLean '59 100 BN2 From sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au Wed Jul 16 17:22:50 2008 From: sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au (sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:22:50 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Yellow BJ8 In-Reply-To: <001201c8e756$cf208dc0$6d61a940$@rr.com> References: <1216184599.487d81173741a@webmail.hotkey.net.au> <706249.54806.qm@web37902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <001201c8e756$cf208dc0$6d61a940$@rr.com> Message-ID: <1216250570.487e82ca5e0a9@webmail.hotkey.net.au> Dont you just love it when we have such an enthusiastic Registry Officer who not only reads the list mail but responds so promptly with new facts and figures.It is a pleasure to see the registry system working in favour of the owners/members with the sharing of the records. Thankyou Steve. Joe From bspidell at comcast.net Wed Jul 16 19:18:17 2008 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:18:17 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Volvo Timing Parts (no Healey content) Message-ID: <487E9DD9.1030301@comcast.net> Forgot who asked, but someone was looking for Volvo timing parts. There's some info at the bottom of this page: http://www.rockauto.com/Newsletter/index.html bs -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au Wed Jul 16 19:49:42 2008 From: Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au (Quinn, Patrick) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:49:42 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] New car! In-Reply-To: <071520081404.9208.487CAE53000637B2000023F82216566276020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net> References: <071520081404.9208.487CAE53000637B2000023F82216566276020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net> Message-ID: <3CFB7014611C6F418B529D81EC0708C70169F889@itfexch5.central.det.win> G'day It wasn't Denis Welch and it wasn't quite a diesel engine. Years back Geoff Healey made no secret of his disdain for the C-series 6-cylinder. As most of us know when the DHMC was asked to experiment with the new engine he was most dissatisfied with its power output. It was only when he fitted a newly designed Westlake cylinder head and triple dual-throat SUs into my car was he happy with it. Some time later when BMC was looking around for an engine to replace the C-series Geoff suggested that they revisit the 4-cylinder engine that was originally fitted to the 100. Despite the initial negative response, mainly due to the petrol version being no longer in production he also suggested a few changes to the engine. These changes included using the engine block and crankshaft from the diesel version of the engine that was still being built for the Austin Taxi. Being a diesel engine block meant that it was stronger to withstand the compression strokes and the crank was nitrited, as in the 100S. Geoff also suggested that the block be decked or shaved to an extent that the stroke be reduced to achieve a total capacity of 2.5 litres. From this he calculated that in standard form the engine would rev to 6,000 rpm and produce around 150bhp. Sadly this was not accepted by the powers that were in BMC at the time as they went for a complete redesign of the C-series by Alec Issigonis of Morris Minor and Mini fame. The result of that was a new 6-cylinder engine with 7 main bearings and still with 2,912cc. That engine found its way into the MGC which sadly was not the success that it should have been. Move forward many years and John Chatham decided to test Geoff Healey's ideas on the 4-cylinder engine. John built up a petrol engine using a decked diesel block, nitrited crank, shortened rods and gas-flowed cylinder head. It easily revved to around 6,000 rpm and without being overly stressed developed around 150bhp. My memory tells me that he reckoned that with further development the engine would have quite easily developed 200bhp. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia How about a "green" Healey? Drop-in a diesel and run it on vegetable oil. Years ago some (Dennis Welch?) put a London taxi diesel 4 cylinder in a 100. IIRC, it was pretty much a straight drop-in (being similar blocks), with the difficulty being the change to the diesel bits. Good luck sourcing a 4-cylinder eninge, gas or oil burner. -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From shop at justbrits.com Wed Jul 16 22:33:30 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:33:30 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Volvo Timing Parts (no Healey content) References: <487E9DD9.1030301@comcast.net> Message-ID: <048f01c8e7c6$44750640$6501a8c0@shop> <> That PV444 is BEAUTIFUL, Bob!! Tnx! Ed From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Wed Jul 16 23:30:10 2008 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (James Shope) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:30:10 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] parts Message-ID: <000a01c8e7ce$3f445060$5201a8c0@Jim> have a left window out of a bj7 that has some scratches and dings, but no cracks. anyone wanting it for any reason let me know. yours for the shipping. healeymanjim From philritten at aol.com Thu Jul 17 08:41:40 2008 From: philritten at aol.com (philritten at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:41:40 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Question for Shop Owners / Restorers Only - OD Throttle In-Reply-To: <071620081605.16613.487E1C3800001B89000040E52215578674020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net> References: <071620081605.16613.487E1C3800001B89000040E52215578674020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net> Message-ID: <8CAB6325B7406E5-12F8-3953@webmail-nd21.sysops.aol.com> All, I'm not sure if I understood correctly what the best thing to do is for those of us (probably only me) that don't have the O/D relay. Should I 1) depress the clutch before flipping the switch (both in and out) as though I was going into another gear 2) lift off the accelerator before flipping the switch Thanks, Phil -----Original Message----- From: kentmclean at comcast.net To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 9:05 am Subject: Re: [Healeys] Question for Shop Owners / Restorers Only - OD Throttle Bob Spidell wrote: > re: > "On that 100/6, if revs dropped too low, it would switch out of OD and into the > straight gear, like an automatic" > > That's not what the O/D throttle ("kickdown") switch is supposed to do. Sounds > like that car had a marginal/weak oil pump in the O/D. That's too bad. I rather liked it. IIRC, when you brought the revs back up and then let off the gas, the OD would kick back in. -- -- Kent McLean '59 100 BN2 Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as philritten at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive From philritten at aol.com Thu Jul 17 08:45:23 2008 From: philritten at aol.com (philritten at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:45:23 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Setting Timing on 100-6 Message-ID: <8CAB632E0DBFA7D-12F8-3986@webmail-nd21.sysops.aol.com> I want to set the timing on my '58 100-6. The manual seems to say 15 BTC at 600 rpm (with timing light). a) Does that sound correct? b) Looking over the radiator at the engine block, is BTC right of the fixed mark on the block? Thanks, Phil From richchrysler at quickclic.net Thu Jul 17 09:01:16 2008 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:01:16 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Question for Shop Owners / Restorers Only - OD Throttle References: <071620081605.16613.487E1C3800001B89000040E52215578674020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net> <8CAB6325B7406E5-12F8-3953@webmail-nd21.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <03d601c8e81d$f75445d0$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> Phil, If you don't have the throttle switch it would be best to either: 1. use the clutch each time you disengage o/d, or 2. keep your foot somewhat into the throttle so the revs will be there to meet the disengagement. DO NOT lift off the throttle when disengaging. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Question for Shop Owners / Restorers Only - OD Throttle > All, > > I'm not sure if I understood correctly what the best thing to do is for > those of us (probably only me) that don't have the O/D relay. > > Should I > 1) depress the clutch before flipping the switch (both in and out) as > though I was going into another gear > 2) lift off the accelerator before flipping the switch > > Thanks, > Phil From don at anglesey.us Thu Jul 17 09:34:48 2008 From: don at anglesey.us (Don ) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:34:48 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Setting Timing on 100-6 In-Reply-To: <8CAB632E0DBFA7D-12F8-3986@webmail-nd21.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Phil, I usually set mine to max advance at 36 degrees and at idle it comes out between 12 to 15 degrees. I use a timing light that has a dial to adjust the degrees and just set line on balancer with pointer on timing cover. BTDC is to the right and with regular timing light I would measure the distance of 15 degree over to the right and mark with white crayon or set static timing which usually comes pretty close. Don 57' BN4 From rjswain at hotmail.com Thu Jul 17 09:47:55 2008 From: rjswain at hotmail.com (Rick Swain) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:47:55 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Door Hinge Pillar Angle Message-ID: I have taken lots of measurements when cutting up my BN4 to attach to my new Kilmartin frame. One thing I neglected which would help confirm I'm reassembling properly is the angle of the hinge pillar flange where it meets the sill. If anyone can give me that angle I'd really appreciate it as I'm about to weld new pillars in place. The angle at which the hinge pillar meets the sill would also be very useful. I can't believe I neglected to measure those angles. Thanks in advance. Rick Swain '59 BN4 _________________________________________________________________ Try Chicktionary, a game that tests how many words you can form from the letters given. Find this and more puzzles at Live Search Games! From ourxke at hotmail.com Thu Jul 17 10:22:03 2008 From: ourxke at hotmail.com (Ken Wignall) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:22:03 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Gearbox Rebuild- need a mainshaft (late BT7 or BJ7) and a first motion shaft (BN4 or BN6) Message-ID: We began the rebuilding of the gearbox and overdrive from my 62 BT7 yesterday after having collected a variety of parts to commence the job. All this as a result of the implode of the overdrive unidirectional clutch assembly, planet gears assembly and sunwheel assembly seizing onto and trashing the mainshaft splines. We have the box dissassembled across the workbench and upon re-assembly found that the BT7 mainshaft that I purchased is from an earlier BT7 with a smaller shaft diameter where the first motion shaft resides. The mainshaft we need has to be from either a sideshift or centreshift unit from (e)29D-H10544, BN7 or BT7, and all centre shift boxes right thru the BJ7 models. We measured the diameter of the shaft end where the first motion shaft bearing resides and it is .755 thousandths of an inch. The earlier shaft that I purchased measured .655 . I also need a first motion shaft from a BN4 or BN6. I bought a gearbox with overdrive that had been installed in a 54 Corvette back in the 50's. The bellhousing was removed and the first motion shaft cut off to adapt it to the Chevy block, but otherwise the rest of the box and the overdrive are good. Just needs the first motion shaft to put it back right and have a complete unit. Any help with these rebuild parts is greatly appreciated. Ken Wignall _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live for mobile, your contacts travel with you. http://www.windowslive.com/mobile/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_mobile_0720 08 From dan at warner-associates.com Thu Jul 17 10:31:54 2008 From: dan at warner-associates.com (Dan Stromquist) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:31:54 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Loss of Power at High Speeds Message-ID: <000101c8e82a$a17307c0$1e00000a@DANSTROM> I will call and have them check that. We did a lot of cosmetic work on the engine, carbs and linkage. Dan -----Original Message----- From: Dave Porter [mailto:frogeye at porterscustom.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 1:04 PM To: 'Dan Stromquist'; 'Healey List Emails' Subject: RE: [Healeys] Loss of Power at High Speeds Are the throttle shafts rotating to full open with the pedal? frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 Porter Custom Bicycles www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+frogeye=porterscustom.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+frogeye=porterscustom.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dan Stromquist Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 11:52 AM To: Healey List Emails Subject: [Healeys] Loss of Power at High Speeds Well we finally got my 64 BJ8 going but the shop is going nuts trying to figure out why it loses power at top speeds. We have newly rebuild carbs by Jim Taylor, newly rebuilt dist by Advanced Dist, new wires by myself, recently replaced fuel pump, new gas line from British car Specialists and newly cleaned and sealed gas tank by Tank Renew. I made them put a fuel filter right before the carbs but they did not put it until after they ran it a while. They have supposedly cleaned the carbs out (I had Jim Taylor put in the grose jets for the floats during the rebuild). Could be they didn't do a good job cleaning the carbs here. They seem to think it is starved for fuel at top end. Any ideas? From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Jul 17 10:38:00 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:38:00 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Question for Shop Owners / Restorers Only - OD Throttle In-Reply-To: <8CAB6325B7406E5-12F8-3953@webmail-nd21.sysops.aol.com> References: <071620081605.16613.487E1C3800001B89000040E52215578674020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net> <8CAB6325B7406E5-12F8-3953@webmail-nd21.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Phil - You got it backwards, on or off you should always have your foot on the gas. Depress the clutch if situation does not allow you to be accelerating.. Alan On 7/17/08, philritten at aol.com wrote: > All, > > I'm not sure if I understood correctly what the best thing to do is for > those of us (probably only me) that don't have the O/D relay. > > Should I > 1) depress the clutch before flipping the switch (both in and out) as though > I was going into another gear > 2) lift off the accelerator before flipping the switch > > Thanks, > Phil > > > -----Original Message----- > From: kentmclean at comcast.net > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 9:05 am > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Question for Shop Owners / Restorers Only - OD > Throttle > > > > Bob Spidell wrote: >> re: >> "On that 100/6, if revs dropped too low, it would switch out of OD and >> into > the >> straight gear, like an automatic" >> >> That's not what the O/D throttle ("kickdown") switch is supposed to do. > Sounds >> like that car had a marginal/weak oil pump in the O/D. > > That's too bad. I rather liked it. IIRC, when you brought the revs back up > and then let off the gas, the OD would kick back in. > > -- > -- > Kent McLean > '59 100 BN2 > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as philritten at aol.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 From glemon at neb.rr.com Thu Jul 17 10:50:05 2008 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (glemon at neb.rr.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:50:05 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Question for Shop Owners / Restorers Only - OD Throttle Message-ID: <217599.2473681216313405852.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web05-z02> Alan, why on the gas when going into O/D, I thought it was let up on the gas a little to let the O/D ratio and engine speed match more closely. I have always gotten the smoothest engagement into overdrive that way. Agree that you should give it a little gas when going out of O/D Greg Lemon ---- Alan Seigrist wrote: > Phil - > > You got it backwards, on or off you should always have your foot on > the gas. Depress the clutch if situation does not allow you to be > accelerating.. > > Alan > > > > On 7/17/08, philritten at aol.com wrote: > > All, > > > > I'm not sure if I understood correctly what the best thing to do is for > > those of us (probably only me) that don't have the O/D relay. > > > > Should I > > 1) depress the clutch before flipping the switch (both in and out) as though > > I was going into another gear > > 2) lift off the accelerator before flipping the switch > > > > Thanks, > > Phil > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: kentmclean at comcast.net > > To: healeys at autox.team.net > > Sent: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 9:05 am > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Question for Shop Owners / Restorers Only - OD > > Throttle > > > > > > > > Bob Spidell wrote: > >> re: > >> "On that 100/6, if revs dropped too low, it would switch out of OD and > >> into > > the > >> straight gear, like an automatic" > >> > >> That's not what the O/D throttle ("kickdown") switch is supposed to do. > > Sounds > >> like that car had a marginal/weak oil pump in the O/D. > > > > That's too bad. I rather liked it. IIRC, when you brought the revs back up > > and then let off the gas, the OD would kick back in. > > > > -- > > -- > > Kent McLean > > '59 100 BN2 > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > You are subscribed as philritten at aol.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > -- > Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com > > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '64 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as glemon at neb.rr.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From cleona44 at hotmail.com Thu Jul 17 11:34:06 2008 From: cleona44 at hotmail.com (Jim Lesher) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:34:06 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Mystery Austin Healey in Jay Leno's Restoration Garage Message-ID: Does any one know what Austin-Healey Jay Leno may be working on in his 80,000 sq ft restoration garage? Check out the photo on p 49, bottom left, "ground-up restoration is being performed on a white Austin-Healey" in the article " Jay Leno's Big Dog Garage - Part One". I found the article in a new magazine " Garage Style Magazine", Spring - 2008, first issue, about 4 weeks ago at my local Borders. Thanks jim lesher _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch when you're away with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenge r2_072008 From kentmclean at comcast.net Thu Jul 17 12:25:01 2008 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (kentmclean at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:25:01 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Mystery Austin Healey in Jay Leno's Restoration Garage Message-ID: <071720081825.8467.487F8E7D0000EC4F000021132215586394020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net> Jim Lesher wrote: > Does any one know what Austin-Healey Jay Leno may be working on in his 80,000 > sq ft restoration garage? It doesn't show up here: -- Kent McLean '59 100 BN2 From philritten at aol.com Thu Jul 17 12:49:22 2008 From: philritten at aol.com (philritten at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:49:22 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Setting Timing on 100-6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8CAB654F5B2E72A-8E4-63B8@webmail-nh08.sysops.aol.com> Don/All, I seem to have gotten answers that BTC is both on the left and the right. I'm guessing that what I'm hearing is the crank pulley (harmonic balancer?) is turning clockwise as viewed from the front over the radiator, and that BTC is either where the mark on the balancer is left of the indicator on the block or if you put a mark on the balancer at 15 degrees BTC, it would be right of the original mark. Correct? It sounds as though the thing to do is to put marks at 5/8 (15 deg) and 1/2 (10 deg) on the balancer (to the right of the original mark) and line those up with the mark on the block using the timing light. Correct? Thanks, Phil -----Original Message----- From: Don To: philritten at aol.com; healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 8:34 am Subject: RE: [Healeys] Setting Timing on 100-6 Phil, I usually set mine to max advance at 36 degrees and at idle it comes out between 12 to 15 degrees. I use a timing light that has a dial to adjust the degrees and just set line on balancer with pointer on timing cover. BTDC is to the right and with regular timing light I would measure the distance of 15 degree over to the right and mark with white crayon or set static timing which usually comes pretty close. Don 57' BN4 From rjswain at hotmail.com Thu Jul 17 12:57:35 2008 From: rjswain at hotmail.com (Rick Swain) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:57:35 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Door Hinge Pillar Angle again Message-ID: Most of what I wrote first time made sense but my second request for an angle was messed up. I'd like to know the angle the hinge pillar makes where it meets the inner sill and secondly the angle of the shut face to the sill. Sorry if I sounded even more stupid than usual. Rick _________________________________________________________________ If you like crossword puzzles, then you'll love Flexicon, a game which combines four overlapping crossword puzzles into one! From ricksnover at earthlink.net Thu Jul 17 13:01:39 2008 From: ricksnover at earthlink.net (Rick Snover) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:01:39 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Mystery Austin Healey in Jay Leno's Restoration Garage In-Reply-To: <071720081825.8467.487F8E7D0000EC4F000021132215586394020E0A 040C039B020A05@comcast.net> References: <071720081825.8467.487F8E7D0000EC4F000021132215586394020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net> Message-ID: FWIW, There was a Healey that showed up in a TV show (last year?) about Jay's garage, too. Thinking it was Jay's car, someone from our Club (not sure who offhand) contacted him (or his people) about the possibility of him attending Conclave. He (or his people) told us the car wasn't his, but belonged to his mechanic. At 11:25 AM 7/17/2008, kentmclean at comcast.net wrote: >Jim Lesher wrote: >>Does any one know what Austin-Healey Jay Leno may be working on in >>his 80,000 > sq ft restoration garage? >It doesn't show up here: -- Rick Snover, San Diego, California, USA V.P. (Membership), Activities Chairman & Webmaster, Austin-Healey Club of S.D. http://www.sdhealey.org 2nd V.P. (Membership) & Webmaster, S.D. British Car Club Council http://www.sandiegobritishcarday.org 1964 Sprite Mk III AN8 (driver), 1959 Speedwell Sprite AN5 vintage racer (VARA http://www.vararacing.com), 1961 3000 Mk II BT7 (being restored), 1955 100 BN2 (pieces in storage) From cleona44 at hotmail.com Thu Jul 17 13:05:59 2008 From: cleona44 at hotmail.com (Jim Lesher) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:05:59 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Mystery Austin Healey in Jay Leno's Restoration Garage In-Reply-To: <071720081825.8467.487F8E7D0000EC4F000021132215586394020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net> References: <071720081825.8467.487F8E7D0000EC4F000021132215586394020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net> Message-ID: Kent - That was the first place I checked myself. I think that since this is a project that is currently being worked on it, will not show up in his collection listing. I have not been able to find anywhere on his website a listing of his current projects. thanks jim lesher '55 BN1 '57 Longbridge BN4 2 porthead > From: kentmclean at comcast.net > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:25:01 +0000 > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery Austin Healey in Jay Leno's Restoration Garage > > Jim Lesher wrote: > > Does any one know what Austin-Healey Jay Leno may be working on in his 80,000 > > sq ft restoration garage? > > It doesn't show up here: > > > -- > Kent McLean > '59 100 BN2 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as cleona44 at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Time for vacation? WIN what you need- enter now! http://www.gowindowslive.com/summergiveaway/?ocid=tag_jlyhm From ahbn6 at optonline.net Thu Jul 17 13:20:45 2008 From: ahbn6 at optonline.net (John Sims) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:20:45 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Mystery Austin Healey in Jay Leno's Restoration Garage In-Reply-To: References: <071720081825.8467.487F8E7D0000EC4F000021132215586394020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net> Message-ID: <01c801c8e842$36a35ae0$a3ea10a0$@net> Ond, in case you do not know, you can upload a photo and short narrative of your car to his site. About 50 Healeys are already there including mine. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Lesher Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 3:06 PM To: kentmclean at comcast.net; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery Austin Healey in Jay Leno's Restoration Garage Kent - That was the first place I checked myself. I think that since this is a project that is currently being worked on it, will not show up in his collection listing. I have not been able to find anywhere on his website a listing of his current projects. thanks jim lesher '55 BN1 '57 Longbridge BN4 2 porthead > From: kentmclean at comcast.net > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:25:01 +0000 > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery Austin Healey in Jay Leno's Restoration Garage > > Jim Lesher wrote: > > Does any one know what Austin-Healey Jay Leno may be working on in his 80,000 > > sq ft restoration garage? From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 17 13:32:56 2008 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:32:56 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Mystery Austin Healey in Jay Leno's Restoration Garage In-Reply-To: References: <071720081825.8467.487F8E7D0000EC4F000021132215586394020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1EB708C8-31E9-424F-8EA3-EF63140DF074@sbcglobal.net> Yes that car belongs to one of his mechanics we send a lot of parts down there for him. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Jul 17, 2008, at 12:01 PM, Rick Snover wrote: > FWIW, There was a Healey that showed up in a TV show (last year?) > about Jay's garage, too. Thinking it was Jay's car, someone from our > Club (not sure who offhand) contacted him (or his people) about the > possibility of him attending Conclave. He (or his people) told us the > car wasn't his, but belonged to his mechanic. > > At 11:25 AM 7/17/2008, kentmclean at comcast.net wrote: >> Jim Lesher wrote: >>> Does any one know what Austin-Healey Jay Leno may be working on in >>> his 80,000 > sq ft restoration garage? >> It doesn't show up here: > index.shtml> > > -- > Rick Snover, San Diego, California, USA > V.P. (Membership), Activities Chairman & Webmaster, Austin-Healey > Club of S.D. http://www.sdhealey.org > 2nd V.P. (Membership) & Webmaster, S.D. British Car Club Council > http://www.sandiegobritishcarday.org > 1964 Sprite Mk III AN8 (driver), 1959 Speedwell Sprite AN5 vintage > racer (VARA http://www.vararacing.com), 1961 3000 Mk II BT7 (being > restored), 1955 100 BN2 (pieces in storage) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From don at anglesey.us Thu Jul 17 13:36:32 2008 From: don at anglesey.us (Don ) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:36:32 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Setting Timing on 100-6 In-Reply-To: <8CAB654F5B2E72A-8E4-63B8@webmail-nh08.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Correct, When looking from the front over the radiator the harmonic balancer is turning clockwise; sitting in the driver's seat it is going counterclockwise. BTDC is the notch in the harmonic balancer. You want to make the mark to the right; clockwise from the notch if looking in over the radiator. Then just like you said line the timing light to mark on block with marks you made on balancer. Don 57" BN4 From dpaye at crocker.com Thu Jul 17 13:55:53 2008 From: dpaye at crocker.com (Donald Paye) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:55:53 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Mystery Austin Healey in Jay Leno's Restoration Garage In-Reply-To: <071720081825.8467.487F8E7D0000EC4F000021132215586394020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net> References: <071720081825.8467.487F8E7D0000EC4F000021132215586394020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net> Message-ID: <70F036B8126E43B19FC435425593D804@DonaldPayePC> In one of the "My Classic Car" shows, Jay mentioned to "the certified car nut" in passing the 100 that he had the project for many years and was not making much headway. Don Paye BN1,BJ7,2-Tigers ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery Austin Healey in Jay Leno's Restoration Garage > Jim Lesher wrote: >> Does any one know what Austin-Healey Jay Leno may be working on in his >> 80,000 >> sq ft restoration garage? > > It doesn't show up here: > > > -- > Kent McLean > '59 100 BN2 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as dpaye at crocker.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From bn1 at pacbell.net Thu Jul 17 14:05:44 2008 From: bn1 at pacbell.net (Mr. Bill) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:05:44 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: BJ8 Wheels and Tire Sizes? Final... In-Reply-To: References: <771912.13831.qm@web37908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9095C46A-018D-40F5-AE78-D36CFA488556@sbcglobal.net> <487D5141.9070104@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <487FA618.3020705@pacbell.net> Alan, et al, Yes, they do stick outside of the wings. I do not have stiffer springs which is why I put in a bid for yours. The dampers are factory rebuilds, painted gold/bronze, that I purchased in the boxes decades ago when Al Moss still owned Moss Motors. I'm also running a 7/8" sway bar with polyurethane bushes which keeps the front absolutely flat. (No, it's not raced hard enough for the bushes to rip out the mounts.) And, I will admit I've been lucky enough to avoid all large potholes. Also, I have pushed split fuel line onto the lower rear edges of all the wings to protect that very vulnerable area of paint. HTH Bill Alan Seigrist wrote: > Bill - > > I used to have 205 65s on my BJ8 and the wheels stuck out enough that > one time I hit a pretty hard bump and the tire hit the edge of the > fender and caused it to crack the bondo that was in there (this was > 1986 when lots of bondo was the norm for repairing these cars, no > jokes please!). I would imagine this would be an issue on the early > BN1 (I have one) unless you put stiffer springs and shocks on it. > > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '64 BJ8 > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:39 AM, Mr. Bill > wrote: > > While slightly off the subject, maybe we can finally put one > debate to rest. > > I like a very full wheel well and run Dunlop 205/65R15's on Dayton > SS/chrome 6" tubeless 72's. Because I have an early BN1 with the > smallest front wheel wells, I've been told over and over: No can do, > they'll rub! And that also came from some reported "experts". > > Well, John Nikas drove my car to the fastest production 100 in the > Gymkhana at Conclave 2008 and there was nary a rub inside or out! > Case > closed? > > Bill Barnett > '53 BN1 with FAT footprints :-) From philritten at aol.com Thu Jul 17 14:24:37 2008 From: philritten at aol.com (philritten at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:24:37 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Setting Timing on 100-6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8CAB66244598DE8-8E4-6811@webmail-nh08.sysops.aol.com> Don, Thank you very much for your clear explanation and thank you to everyone else for your input! Phil Don, doB you have a Longbridge BN4? I do. Someone I was talking to the other day wasB wondering how many Longbridge BN4s are still running and thought thereB might beB a registry. Do you know anything about that? Phil -----Original Message----- From: Don To: philritten at aol.com Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:36 pm Subject: RE: [Healeys] Setting Timing on 100-6 Correct, When looking from the front over the radiator the harmonic balancer is turning clockwise; sitting in the driverbs seat it is going counterclockwise. B BTDC is the notch in the harmonic balancer.B You want to make the mark to the right; clockwise from the notch if looking in over the radiator.B Then just like you said line the timing light to mark on block with marks you made on balancer. Don 57b BN4 From 57healey at gmail.com Thu Jul 17 14:53:56 2008 From: 57healey at gmail.com (Patton Dickson) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:53:56 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Setting Timing on 100-6 In-Reply-To: <8CAB66244598DE8-8E4-6811@webmail-nh08.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CAB66244598DE8-8E4-6811@webmail-nh08.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <743b1e2f0807171353m7d9e2e45ve0506eb527b1da81@mail.gmail.com> Phil, I wouldn't be suprized if Jim contacted you before you get this, but here is the registry information. BN4 Longbridge 2-Port Head Registry. Owners of Longbridge-built 100-Six models with the 2-port head are invited to contact the Registrar and provide details of their cars. You will receive a copy of the register quarterly. Contact "Longbridge Larry" aka Jim Lesher, at BN4_2porthead at hotmail.com or 3715 St George Circle, Doylestown PA 18901. Patton BN4 L O 37718 Built April 1, 1957 On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 3:24 PM, wrote: > > Don, > > Thank you very much for your clear explanation and thank you to everyone else > for your input! > > Phil > > Don, doB you have a Longbridge BN4? I do. Someone I was talking to the other > day wasB wondering how many Longbridge BN4s are still running and thought > thereB might beB a registry. Do you know anything about that? > > Phil -- Patton Dickson - http://Austin-Healeys.com - Plano, TX 1957 Austin-Healey 100-Six "Built to run 'til the road wears out." From bertvanbrande at yahoo.com Thu Jul 17 15:58:11 2008 From: bertvanbrande at yahoo.com (Bert Van Brande) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:58:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Mystery Austin Healey in Jay Leno's Restoration Garage In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <383423.22196.qm@web50410.mail.re2.yahoo.com> FWIW, I sold a BN1 3 speed gearbox to his mechanic who works mostly on the bikes. I remember having seen the car (mostly a frame) on one of the online videos where Jay refers to the project. Note Jay was super interested in one of the 100's on the British Car day at Woodley Park, LA a couple months ago. Cheers from Belgium (back in LA next week) Bert From dwhite4949 at wowway.com Thu Jul 17 16:20:09 2008 From: dwhite4949 at wowway.com (Daniel and Diane White) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:20:09 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Hardtop value Message-ID: <487FC599.3060602@wowway.com> Hello group, A friend of mine is going to sell a hardtop for a two seater to me. That's the good news. Problem is, we are trying to come up with a fair market value. It will need a total restoration- paint, new headliner, seals, hardware, back window and whatever else it needs to make it look pretty. What are your thoughts as to what the selling price should be? Thanks, Dan 1962 BN7 MK II From bn1 at pacbell.net Thu Jul 17 17:33:45 2008 From: bn1 at pacbell.net (Mr. Bill) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:33:45 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Mystery Austin Healey in Jay Leno's Restoration Garage In-Reply-To: <383423.22196.qm@web50410.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <383423.22196.qm@web50410.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <487FD6D9.3050705@pacbell.net> I believe the car he was interested in belongs to a member of our Club, the Austin-Healey Association of So. Cal., who is not on this List. It is a black 100 nasty boy with Nerf bars and custom built-in side pipes. It is fitted with an aluminum block Olds V-8 and dual Strombergs. According to the owner, Jay talked to him for about half an hour about it. Bill Barnett '53 BN1 #663 Bert Van Brande wrote: > FWIW, I sold a BN1 3 speed gearbox to his mechanic who works mostly on the bikes. I remember having seen the car (mostly a frame) on one of the online videos where Jay refers to the project. Note Jay was super interested in one of the 100's on the British Car day at Woodley Park, LA a couple months ago. > > Cheers from Belgium (back in LA next week) > > Bert > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as bn1 at pacbell.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From philritten at aol.com Thu Jul 17 18:01:02 2008 From: philritten at aol.com (philritten at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:01:02 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Tonneau Cover Message-ID: <8CAB680803D3082-8E4-7088@webmail-nh08.sysops.aol.com> I have a Tonneau cover that I got with my 4 seater that doesn't quite seem to have the room to snap the front couple of snaps on each side and be long enough to go over the steering wheel or over the front snap. Someone mentioned it might be for a 2 seater. Would anyone out there like to trade me for a 4 seat cover? Thanks, From jculphealey at yahoo.com Thu Jul 17 18:01:33 2008 From: jculphealey at yahoo.com (Jim Culp) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:01:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] (Non Healey Reading) Chevrolet Biscayne article In-Reply-To: <743b1e2f0807171353m7d9e2e45ve0506eb527b1da81@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <443504.77283.qm@web46302.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I thought I would share this article from the August 2008 edition of Automobile magazine. The article featured 5 cars from GM's "Motorama" dream car tour from the '50's. I was particularly struck by the styling of the Chevy Biscayne and the story behind it's (partial) restoration. I find the "bugeye" headlights and the side coves to be particularly pleasing to the eye, and the hand layed windshield is pretty amazing. Anyway, enjoy: http://www.flickr.com/photos/28711344 at N06/2678664130/sizes/l/ From jerryhay at msn.com Thu Jul 17 18:14:40 2008 From: jerryhay at msn.com (ROBERT HAY) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:14:40 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Patch collectors Message-ID: Healey is gone; working through small items. I have the following patches for sale: 1-1999 Conclave "Meet me in St. Louis" 2-2000 Conclave Indianapolis 2-Southern Classic XIV "Healeys by the Sea" 2-Open Roads 2002, 50th Anniversary, Lake Tahoe 1-Austin-Healey 3000 MK II strip patch 2-Austin-Healey Club of America [dark blue background and light blue background] 1-oblong Healey patch w/ yellow castle and British flag 2-BMC round patch w. ribbon 1-SCCA Kentucky 1-Britich flag patch, 2" x 4" 1-TR Triumph, blue and white 1-Conclave 1999 dash plaque 1-2002 open roads 50th anniversary plaque 1-2002 open roads 50th anniversary sticker. Would like to sell as a lot but will divide. BO + actual postage by July 25 _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live for mobile, your contacts travel with you. http://www.windowslive.com/mobile/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_mobile_0720 08 From philritten at aol.com Thu Jul 17 18:17:26 2008 From: philritten at aol.com (philritten at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:17:26 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Mystery Austin Healey in Jay Leno's Restoration Garage In-Reply-To: <487FD6D9.3050705@pacbell.net> References: <383423.22196.qm@web50410.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <487FD6D9.3050705@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <8CAB682CA668830-8E4-711B@webmail-nh08.sysops.aol.com> I wonder if he has a thing for black sports cars. I spoke to a gentleman who was selling his black MGCGT about two months ago. He claims that Jay saw his car and talked to him about it for a while. It is a nice looking car.??Here's the link: http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/car/757530424.html -----Original Message----- From: Mr. Bill To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 4:33 pm Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery Austin Healey in Jay Leno's Restoration Garage I believe the car he was interested in belongs to a member of our Club, the Austin-Healey Association of So. Cal., who is not on this List. It is a black 100 nasty boy with Nerf bars and custom built-in side pipes. It is fitted with an aluminum block Olds V-8 and dual Strombergs. According to the owner, Jay talked to him for about half an hour about it. Bill Barnett '53 BN1 #663 Bert Van Brande wrote: > FWIW, I sold a BN1 3 speed gearbox to his mechanic who works mostly on the bikes. I remember having seen the car (mostly a frame) on one of the online videos where Jay refers to the project. Note Jay was super interested in one of the 100's on the British Car day at Woodley Park, LA a couple months ago. > > Cheers from Belgium (back in LA next week) > > Bert > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as bn1 at pacbell.net > > http://www.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as philritten at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive From Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au Thu Jul 17 18:24:44 2008 From: Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au (Quinn, Patrick) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:24:44 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Question for Shop Owners / Restorers Only - OD Throttle In-Reply-To: <8CAB6325B7406E5-12F8-3953@webmail-nd21.sysops.aol.com> References: <071620081605.16613.487E1C3800001B89000040E52215578674020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net> <8CAB6325B7406E5-12F8-3953@webmail-nd21.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <3CFB7014611C6F418B529D81EC0708C70169F89A@itfexch5.central.det.win> G'day I think I have said this before, but I can imagine all you blokes out in your cars pussyfooting around when changing in and out of OD. Properly maintained, the Laycock de Normanville overdrive is a robust piece of machinery. The same goes for the complete drivetrain of any Austin-Healey, whether it's fitted with an OD or not. Over the years I have had ODs in many different states of repair and I must say it's one of the most endearing aspects of AH ownership. When the OD electrics in the BN3 were completely stuff I straightened a wire coat hanger, drilled a small hole in the gearbox tunnel, climbed underneath to attach the wire to the lever and afterwards operated the OD by hand. When did I pull the wire? When I was accelerating. When did I push the wire for direct drive? When I was accelerating. When the car was restored and the OD was working as it should. When did I flick the switch? When I am accelerating. When did I flick the switch for direct drive? When I am accelerating. When I am decelerating I may just blip the throttle slightly to bring the revs up. Not unlike what I do when I change out of cruise control (best invention since sliced bread) in our modern automatic. PLEASE stop fartarsing about with your cars and get out and use them as they were intended. Drive them in all sorts of circumstances and only then will you know what they are capable of. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+patrick.quinn=det.nsw.edu.au at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+patrick.quinn=det.nsw.edu.au at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of philritten at aol.com Sent: Friday, 18 July 2008 12:42 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Question for Shop Owners / Restorers Only - OD Throttle All, I'm not sure if I understood correctly what the best thing to do is for those of us (probably only me) that don't have the O/D relay. Should I 1) depress the clutch before flipping the switch (both in and out) as though I was going into another gear 2) lift off the accelerator before flipping the switch Thanks, Phil ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From dwflagg at juno.com Thu Jul 17 18:35:33 2008 From: dwflagg at juno.com (Douglas W Flagg) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:35:33 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Question for Shop Owners / Restorers Only - OD Throttle Message-ID: <20080717.203534.2880.0.dwflagg@juno.com> Patrick, Very well said and that goes for the non-Smitty transmission as well. You should learn from Patrick's words and truly enjoy the Healey for the rugged, classic sports car it is. As Dorothy said (Not an exact quote but paraphrased), "If you can't find happiness in your own back yard....". Don't ask your Healey to be what it isn't, but be happy for what it is!! IMHO. Doug > G'day > > I think I have said this before, but I can imagine all you blokes > out in > your cars pussyfooting around when changing in and out of OD. > > Properly maintained, the Laycock de Normanville overdrive is a > robust > piece of machinery. The same goes for the complete drivetrain of > any > Austin-Healey, whether it's fitted with an OD or not. > > Over the years I have had ODs in many different states of repair and > I > must say it's one of the most endearing aspects of AH ownership. > > When the OD electrics in the BN3 were completely stuff I > straightened a > wire coat hanger, drilled a small hole in the gearbox tunnel, > climbed > underneath to attach the wire to the lever and afterwards operated > the > OD by hand. > > When did I pull the wire? When I was accelerating. > When did I push the wire for direct drive? When I was accelerating. > > When the car was restored and the OD was working as it should. > > When did I flick the switch? When I am accelerating. > When did I flick the switch for direct drive? When I am > accelerating. > > When I am decelerating I may just blip the throttle slightly to > bring > the revs up. Not unlike what I do when I change out of cruise > control > (best invention since sliced bread) in our modern automatic. > > PLEASE stop fartarsing about with your cars and get out and use them > as > they were intended. Drive them in all sorts of circumstances and > only > then will you know what they are capable of. > > Hoo Roo > > Patrick Quinn > Sydney, Australia > ____________________________________________________________ Hotel pics, info and virtual tours. Click here to book a hotel online. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nLmKwIdMbUUTuhU2oMt57dMLJUQM5OARoja4U8Nem9UzhuU/ From e-wilkins at cox.net Thu Jul 17 19:25:33 2008 From: e-wilkins at cox.net (Eric (Rick) Wilkins) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:25:33 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Question for Shop Owners / Restorers Only - OD Throttle In-Reply-To: <3CFB7014611C6F418B529D81EC0708C70169F89A@itfexch5.central.det.win> References: <071620081605.16613.487E1C3800001B89000040E52215578674020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net> <8CAB6325B7406E5-12F8-3953@webmail-nd21.sysops.aol.com> <3CFB7014611C6F418B529D81EC0708C70169F89A@itfexch5.central.det.win> Message-ID: <2043A089-EBDD-4E08-B523-336367593AA6@cox.net> I love the wire actuated overdrive. I did that in my BN6 from about 1995 'til 1997 when I bought a solenoid. The wire went through my ashtray hole. Wilko San Diego On Jul 17, 2008, at 5:24 PM, Quinn, Patrick wrote: > G'day > > I think I have said this before, but I can imagine all you blokes > out in > your cars pussyfooting around when changing in and out of OD. > > Properly maintained, the Laycock de Normanville overdrive is a robust > piece of machinery. The same goes for the complete drivetrain of any > Austin-Healey, whether it's fitted with an OD or not. > > Over the years I have had ODs in many different states of repair and I > must say it's one of the most endearing aspects of AH ownership. > > When the OD electrics in the BN3 were completely stuff I > straightened a > wire coat hanger, drilled a small hole in the gearbox tunnel, climbed > underneath to attach the wire to the lever and afterwards operated the > OD by hand. > > When did I pull the wire? When I was accelerating. > When did I push the wire for direct drive? When I was accelerating. > > When the car was restored and the OD was working as it should. > > When did I flick the switch? When I am accelerating. > When did I flick the switch for direct drive? When I am accelerating. > > When I am decelerating I may just blip the throttle slightly to bring > the revs up. Not unlike what I do when I change out of cruise control > (best invention since sliced bread) in our modern automatic. > > PLEASE stop fartarsing about with your cars and get out and use them > as > they were intended. Drive them in all sorts of circumstances and only > then will you know what they are capable of. > > Hoo Roo > > Patrick Quinn > Sydney, Australia > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces+patrick.quinn=det.nsw.edu.au at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces+patrick.quinn=det.nsw.edu.au at autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of philritten at aol.com > Sent: Friday, 18 July 2008 12:42 AM > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Question for Shop Owners / Restorers Only - OD > Throttle > > All, > > I'm not sure if I understood correctly what the best thing to do is > for > those of us (probably only me) that don't have the O/D relay. > > Should I > 1) depress the clutch before flipping the switch (both in and out) as > though I was going into another gear > 2) lift off the accelerator before flipping the switch > > Thanks, > Phil > > ********************************************************************** > This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain > privileged information or confidential information or both. If you > are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. > ********************************************************************** > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as e-wilkins at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From kit at henrymotorsports.com Thu Jul 17 19:28:38 2008 From: kit at henrymotorsports.com (Kit Henry) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:28:38 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Next one for sale Jaguar Non Healey Message-ID: <000d01c8e875$9b112970$030ba8c0@henryfce283bea> Not sure if anyone her is interested, My Healey has not yet sold, though it is being examined Monday for a possible. Car number 2 of the collection that is up for sale 1967 !/2 Jaguar XKE Series 11/2 New Nose, Old Style Rear New paint All new interior all professionally installed Guages replaced or repaired New Switiches New Top New Chorme where needed New Dayton Wire Wheels and tires Yellow with black interior New door skins, doors need adjusting not fittting properly yet New Heater Box New Battery Mecahnical restoration begun by certified technician not yet completed Ran last fall when stored shouldn't be an issue Over 20,000.00 spent on restoration to date More information on what excatly has been done tomorrow Pictures coming, may be seen at: http://www.henrymotorcar.com/mvc-001f.jpg this was at the beginning of the restoration Asking $57,500.00 Kit Henry 419-217-0685 From shop at justbrits.com Thu Jul 17 21:02:26 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:02:26 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Question for Shop Owners / Restorers Only - OD Throttle References: <20080717.203534.2880.0.dwflagg@juno.com> Message-ID: <00cd01c8e882$b5ba5820$6501a8c0@shop> <> Mine ALSO, Doug. (as you well know from out private mails!!!) Ed '63 BJ-7 (Hortense the Healey BONE STOCK and staying that way!!) From tomfelts at windstream.net Thu Jul 17 21:19:50 2008 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (tomfelts at windstream.net) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:19:50 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Next one for sale Jaguar Non Healey Message-ID: <20080718031950.LTJP13398.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> You ought to put this on the E-Type list. If you arn't familiar with this list, let me know. tom > > From: "Kit Henry" > Date: 2008/07/17 Thu PM 09:28:38 EDT > To: > Subject: [Healeys] Next one for sale Jaguar Non Healey > > Not sure if anyone her is interested, My Healey has not yet sold, though it is > being examined Monday for a possible. > > Car number 2 of the collection that is up for sale > > 1967 !/2 Jaguar XKE Series 11/2 > New Nose, Old Style Rear > New paint > All new interior all professionally installed > Guages replaced or repaired > New Switiches > New Top > New Chorme where needed > New Dayton Wire Wheels and tires > Yellow with black interior > New door skins, doors need adjusting not fittting properly yet > New Heater Box > New Battery > Mecahnical restoration begun by certified technician not yet completed > Ran last fall when stored shouldn't be an issue > Over 20,000.00 spent on restoration to date > More information on what excatly has been done tomorrow > > Pictures coming, may be seen at: http://www.henrymotorcar.com/mvc-001f.jpg > this was at the beginning of the restoration > > Asking $57,500.00 > > Kit Henry > 419-217-0685 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au Thu Jul 17 22:54:50 2008 From: sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au (sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:54:50 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] O/D Action Message-ID: <1216356890.4880221aebf3b@webmail.hotkey.net.au> Without the throttle switch/relay in service just drive it and use it like grandpa trained you to change gears without using the clutch in his old Chev. truck without sychromesh. Blend the revs to suit an increasing or decreasing road speed and engine revs. and it slips in and out seemlessly like a knife thro butter. Joe From jwbn6 at verizon.net Fri Jul 18 04:40:38 2008 From: jwbn6 at verizon.net (jerry wall) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 05:40:38 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Healeys] Hardtop value Message-ID: <6571535.992701216377638963.JavaMail.root@vms126.mailsrvcs.net> =dan, $750-950 depending upon condition of the shell. you will end up with $4000+ before you are through. i've just begun the final assembly on my 2-seater project, however, will be delayed several weeks as my rh shoulder rotator cuff surgery heals. cheers, jerry ==================== From: Daniel and Diane White Date: 2008/07/17 Thu PM 05:20:09 CDT To: Healey list Subject: [Healeys] Hardtop value Hello group, A friend of mine is going to sell a hardtop for a two seater to me. That's the good news. Problem is, we are trying to come up with a fair market value. It will need a total restoration- paint, new headliner, seals, hardware, back window and whatever else it needs to make it look pretty. What are your thoughts as to what the selling price should be? Thanks, Dan 1962 BN7 MK II Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as jwbn6 at verizon.net http://www.team.net/archive JERRY WALL BN6 ROWLETT, TX From ah3000me at gmail.com Fri Jul 18 04:57:58 2008 From: ah3000me at gmail.com (T W) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 06:57:58 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Tonneau Cover In-Reply-To: <8CAB680803D3082-8E4-7088@webmail-nh08.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CAB680803D3082-8E4-7088@webmail-nh08.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I have the same problem with mine, and I assume the tonneau cover has lost its stretch or shrunk with age. - tom On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 8:01 PM, wrote: > I have a Tonneau cover that I got with my 4 seater that doesn't quite seem > to have the room to snap the front couple of snaps on each side and be long > enough to go over the steering wheel or over the front snap. Someone > mentioned it might be for a 2 seater. Would anyone out there like to trade > me for a 4 seat cover? > > Thanks, > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as ah3000me at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From dwhite4949 at wowway.com Fri Jul 18 08:00:42 2008 From: dwhite4949 at wowway.com (Daniel and Diane White) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:00:42 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Hardtop follow up Message-ID: <4880A20A.1070302@wowway.com> Thank you to you listers that responded to my question regarding what the two seater hardtop would/should sell for. I have sad news to report- the hardtop was stolen this past week. As you can imagine there are a lot of feelings of anger and disappointment. Please don't flame me and I know what the odds are but I have to ask the question. Does anyone know of or have a two seater hardtop for sale? Regards, Dan 1962 BN7 MK II From tomleavy at comcast.net Fri Jul 18 08:12:38 2008 From: tomleavy at comcast.net (tomleavy at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:12:38 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Hardtop value Message-ID: <071820081412.7821.4880A4D60001557A00001E8D220642461397900E0A0403019B@comcast.net> Hi Dan- I recently sold one on ebay that was in similar condition, however, It was a 4 seater hardtop. It had several bids and after 3 or 4 days someone clicked "buy it now" for $300. I hope that gives you some idea. Tom '63 BJ7 obsesstoration From don at anglesey.us Fri Jul 18 09:13:17 2008 From: don at anglesey.us (Don ) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:13:17 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Part needs new home Message-ID: I have an extra A-H Spares aluminum works oil pan that is collecting dust in my shop. I do not have the drain plug or bolts because I miss placed them when I moved. Contact me off list if interested or to EBay it goes. Thanks. Don 57' BN4 From philritten at aol.com Fri Jul 18 10:17:35 2008 From: philritten at aol.com (philritten at aol.com) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:17:35 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Touch Up Paint Message-ID: <8CAB708ECA87AA1-1FC-815A@WEBMAIL-NG16.sysops.aol.com> I got a number of paint chips on my car going to the Conclave. I've tried going to Pep Boys to see if any of their touch up paint colors will match, but none do. Does anyone have an idea of how to have a custom color matched, and little bit of paint made? ? Thanks From bspidell at comcast.net Fri Jul 18 10:29:37 2008 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:29:37 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Touch Up Paint Message-ID: <071820081629.445.4880C4F10007A1FF000001BD220702455304040A0B079F9C0D@comcast.net> Phil, Any good automotive paint shop should be able to match your paint pretty closely with a colorimeter. I had my "Colorado Red" match perfectly to GM "Peking Red" (what a coincidence ;). They will likely have a minimum--probably 1pt--which could set you back $40-50 with catalyst, but IMO it's worth it for a good match (you can always use it to touch up frame bare spots). They might be able to do an aerosol as well. bs -- *************************************************************** Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net '67 Austin-Healey 3000 '56 Austin-Healey 100M *************************************************************** -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: philritten at aol.com > I got a number of paint chips on my car going to the Conclave. I've tried going > to Pep Boys to see if any of their touch up paint colors will match, but none > do. Does anyone have an idea of how to have a custom color matched, and little > bit of paint made? > ? > Thanks From gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com Fri Jul 18 10:36:03 2008 From: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com (Richard Collins) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:36:03 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] car Insurance Disclaimer---Legit??? Message-ID: My current car insurer, Leland West, which requires photos of the insured car and the "Locked" garage it is stored in, just wrote me a letter advising me it would not insure my cars while stored on, below or while working on or near my car lift. The lift appears in one of the 4 photos I had to send them of the garage. I am not pleased with this situation. I have 2 questions for the gang: A. Has anyone else had to sign off on such an agreement with any other insurance company? (hagarty, Grundy, etc) B. Has anyone seen such a disclaimer warning from any of its lift manufacturers? LeLand is notorious for basically having an endless list of things in both large and fine print they won't insure against or will decline payment should a claim be filed (I've never filed a claim---yet). My lift is a Revolution---Made in America, and one of the few approved by the AAMA and other large underwriters and associations. Sure we've all seen the collapsed lifts in marketing pitches by the different selling manufacturers but what is the risk factor? Fortunately car insurance is an un-emotional business in that it you can drop them as easy as they can drop you. I am stuck with Leland (unless I refuse to sign the release) until next February when I can shop around again. Richard of KY 1960 BN7 _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live for mobile, your contacts travel with you. http://www.windowslive.com/mobile/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_mobile_0720 08 From dan at warner-associates.com Fri Jul 18 10:37:19 2008 From: dan at warner-associates.com (Dan Stromquist) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:37:19 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Tonneau Cover In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002501c8e8f4$8c059720$1e00000a@DANSTROM> Likewise on my cover. Seems they all shrink with time. How do you keep that from happening on replacements? I was told they cannot be stretched. Dan -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+dan=warner-associates.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+dan=warner-associates.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of T W Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 5:58 AM To: philritten at aol.com Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Tonneau Cover I have the same problem with mine, and I assume the tonneau cover has lost its stretch or shrunk with age. - tom On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 8:01 PM, wrote: > I have a Tonneau cover that I got with my 4 seater that doesn't quite seem > to have the room to snap the front couple of snaps on each side and be long > enough to go over the steering wheel or over the front snap. Someone > mentioned it might be for a 2 seater. Would anyone out there like to trade > me for a 4 seat cover? > > Thanks, > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as ah3000me at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as dan at warner-associates.com http://www.team.net/archive From e-wilkins at cox.net Fri Jul 18 10:43:34 2008 From: e-wilkins at cox.net (Eric (Rick) Wilkins) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:43:34 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Tonneau Cover In-Reply-To: <002501c8e8f4$8c059720$1e00000a@DANSTROM> References: <002501c8e8f4$8c059720$1e00000a@DANSTROM> Message-ID: <737E6044-F397-4384-BBAB-4F2B57BBB1AE@cox.net> Lay it out in the sun to warm it up, it'll stretch. On Jul 18, 2008, at 9:37 AM, Dan Stromquist wrote: > Likewise on my cover. Seems they all shrink with time. How do you > keep > that from happening on replacements? I was told they cannot be > stretched. > Dan > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces+dan=warner-associates.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces+dan=warner-associates.com at autox.team.net] > On Behalf > Of T W > Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 5:58 AM > To: philritten at aol.com > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Tonneau Cover > > I have the same problem with mine, and I assume the tonneau cover > has lost > its stretch or shrunk with age. > > - tom > > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 8:01 PM, wrote: > >> I have a Tonneau cover that I got with my 4 seater that doesn't >> quite seem >> to have the room to snap the front couple of snaps on each side >> and be > long >> enough to go over the steering wheel or over the front snap. Someone >> mentioned it might be for a 2 seater. Would anyone out there like >> to trade >> me for a 4 seat cover? >> >> Thanks, >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as ah3000me at gmail.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as dan at warner-associates.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as e-wilkins at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From tomfelts at windstream.net Fri Jul 18 10:55:35 2008 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (tomfelts at windstream.net) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:55:35 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Tonneau Cover Message-ID: <20080718165535.IUMG13398.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> Leave them sit out in the sun at 95 degrees for a while and you can stretch them to fit----now----after it gets cold for a while--they might re-shrink:) tom > > From: "Dan Stromquist" > Date: 2008/07/18 Fri PM 12:37:19 EDT > To: "'Healey List Emails'" > CC: > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Tonneau Cover > > Likewise on my cover. Seems they all shrink with time. How do you keep > that from happening on replacements? I was told they cannot be stretched. > Dan > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces+dan=warner-associates.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces+dan=warner-associates.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf > Of T W > Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 5:58 AM > To: philritten at aol.com > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Tonneau Cover > > I have the same problem with mine, and I assume the tonneau cover has lost > its stretch or shrunk with age. > > - tom > > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 8:01 PM, wrote: > > > I have a Tonneau cover that I got with my 4 seater that doesn't quite seem > > to have the room to snap the front couple of snaps on each side and be > long > > enough to go over the steering wheel or over the front snap. Someone > > mentioned it might be for a 2 seater. Would anyone out there like to trade > > me for a 4 seat cover? > > > > Thanks, > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > You are subscribed as ah3000me at gmail.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as dan at warner-associates.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From clocks at midcoast.com Fri Jul 18 11:36:45 2008 From: clocks at midcoast.com (James Lea) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:36:45 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] car Insurance Disclaimer---Legit??? References: Message-ID: <019c01c8e8fc$d9480ec0$0201a8c0@JIM> Richard. Switch to Hagarty. I have used them for years for all of my cars and have never had a problem. If you can, find a local office that represents them. I find it better to deal face to face if you ever have a claim. Cheers, JL James Lea PO Box 25 Rockport Maine 04856 1-207-236-3632 1951 Triumph Renown 1952 MG TD 1952 Triumph Mayflower 1958 Rover P4 1962 Austin Healey BT7 1980 Commuta-car Electric From philritten at aol.com Fri Jul 18 11:44:02 2008 From: philritten at aol.com (philritten at aol.com) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:44:02 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Touch Up Paint In-Reply-To: <071820081629.445.4880C4F10007A1FF000001BD220702455304040A0B079F9C0D@comcast.net> References: <071820081629.445.4880C4F10007A1FF000001BD220702455304040A0B079F9C0D@comcast.net> Message-ID: <8CAB715003D8DE7-1FC-8514@WEBMAIL-NG16.sysops.aol.com> I spoke with a gentleman who told me that I needed to get paint from Sherwin Williams, then he would add some kind of compound to it to make it into touch up paint. I guess it must be some kind of preservative to keep the paint from hardening over time. Does that sound familiar to anyone, or is it a gimmick? Phil -----Original Message----- From: Bob Spidell To: philritten at aol.com; healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 9:29 am Subject: Re: [Healeys] Touch Up Paint Phil, Any good automotive paint shop should be able to match your paint pretty closely with a colorimeter. I had my "Colorado Red" match perfectly to GM "Peking Red" (what a coincidence ;). They will likely have a minimum--probably 1pt--which could set you back $40-50 with catalyst, but IMO it's worth it for a good match (you can always use it to touch up frame bare spots). They might be able to do an aerosol as well. bs -- *************************************************************** Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net '67 Austin-Healey 3000 '56 Austin-Healey 100M *************************************************************** -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: philritten at aol.com > I got a number of paint chips on my car going to the Conclave. I've tried going > to Pep Boys to see if any of their touch up paint colors will match, but none > do. Does anyone have an idea of how to have a custom color matched, and little > bit of paint made? > ? > Thanks From dan at warner-associates.com Fri Jul 18 11:47:03 2008 From: dan at warner-associates.com (Dan Stromquist) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:47:03 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Loss of Power BJ8-Update Message-ID: <003401c8e8fe$49a5d0c0$1e00000a@DANSTROM> Problem solved-so I am told. There was a miss under load that was corrected by replacing a bad coil wire? They also put on a new Lucas cap and replaced the plugs with new Champions. Since the old ones were burning white, we are going to swap out the needles in the carbs to burn richer. The prior owner had switched them to the richer UN and when I rebuilt them we went with UH. Condencer and coil checked out OK. The original perceived lack of fuel problem turned out to be bogus other than the lean mixture issue. The inside the gas tank coating by Tank Renew appears to be done right. The gauze covering on the fuel outlet seems to be clear and the shop says they have had many done at the same location with no problems. Regards, Dan From f.ronald.rader at gmail.com Fri Jul 18 12:26:08 2008 From: f.ronald.rader at gmail.com (F. Ronald Rader) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:26:08 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] car Insurance Disclaimer---Legit??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5caeedb50807181126j1fe775die16b9fb6c2eefc81@mail.gmail.com> i like haggerty. why not cancel your policy now and change to another carrier. you will get a partial refund from your current insurance. ron rader On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Richard Collins wrote: > I am stuck with Leland (unless I refuse to > sign the release) until next February when I can shop around again. > > Richard of KY > 1960 BN7 From 62bt7 at prodigy.net Fri Jul 18 12:59:45 2008 From: 62bt7 at prodigy.net (62bt7) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:59:45 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Friday Funny for OZ and those Down-under Message-ID: <04a001c8e908$73709f70$bb35480c@kirkgrbymz8g9u> Subject: Friday Funny for OZ and those Down-Under A bloke walks into a bar in New Zealand and orders a shandy. All the Kiwis sitting around the bar look up, expecting to see another Australian visitor. The barman says, 'You ain't from around here, are ya?' The bloke says, 'No, I'm from Canada.' The barman says, 'What do you do in Canada?' The bloke says, 'I'm a taxidermist.' The barman says, 'A tixidermist? What the hick is a tixidermist? Do you drive a tixi?' 'No, a taxidermist doesn't drive a taxi. I mount animals.' The barman grins and yells......... 'He's okay boys, He's one of us.' Patrick, are you one of the boys ???? ;-)) What's a shandy ???? From dcongleton at embarqmail.com Fri Jul 18 13:04:47 2008 From: dcongleton at embarqmail.com (Dallas Congleton) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:04:47 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Touch Up Paint References: <071820081629.445.4880C4F10007A1FF000001BD220702455304040A0B079F9C0D@comcast.net> <8CAB715003D8DE7-1FC-8514@WEBMAIL-NG16.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I had a pint of touch up paint mixed of the same color when I had a car painted last year. The car was painted with urethane that required a catalyst, but the touch up was a different composition ready to be used from the can. The brand I used was DuPont. The touch up works well and blends perfectly. The pint of touch up was approximately $40. Dallas ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Touch Up Paint >I spoke with a gentleman who told me that I needed to get paint from >Sherwin Williams, then he would add some kind of compound to it to make it >into touch up paint. I guess it must be some kind of preservative to keep >the paint from hardening over time. Does that sound familiar to anyone, or >is it a gimmick? > Phil > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Spidell > To: philritten at aol.com; healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 9:29 am > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Touch Up Paint > > > > Phil, > > > Any good automotive paint shop should be able to match your paint pretty > closely > with a colorimeter. I had my "Colorado Red" match perfectly to GM "Peking > Red" > (what a coincidence ;). > > They will likely have a minimum--probably 1pt--which could set you back > $40-50 > with catalyst, but IMO it's worth it for a good match (you can always use > it to > touch up frame bare spots). They might be able to do an aerosol as well. > > > bs > > -- > *************************************************************** > Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net > '67 Austin-Healey 3000 '56 Austin-Healey 100M > *************************************************************** > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: philritten at aol.com >> I got a number of paint chips on my car going to the Conclave. I've tried > going >> to Pep Boys to see if any of their touch up paint colors will match, but >> none >> do. Does anyone have an idea of how to have a custom color matched, and >> little > >> bit of paint made? >> ? >> Thanks > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as dcongleton at embarqmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.1/1560 - Release Date: 7/18/2008 > 6:47 AM From Editorgary at aol.com Fri Jul 18 14:31:20 2008 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:31:20 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 2, Issue 457 Message-ID: In a message dated 7/18/08 11:05:55 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > > A. Has anyone else had to sign off on such an agreement with any other > insurance company? (hagarty, Grundy, etc) > > B. Has anyone seen such a disclaimer warning from any of its lift > manufacturers? > Try Hagerty... I still think they're the best in the business. Let us know what you find out. Cheers Gary ************** Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) From Editorgary at aol.com Fri Jul 18 14:33:54 2008 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:33:54 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Tonneau covers Message-ID: In a message dated 7/18/08 11:05:55 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > Someone > > mentioned it might be for a 2 seater. Would anyone out there like to trade > > me for a 4 seat cover? > The back of the two-seat tonneau is completely different from the four-seater. Two seater has only four snaps and two turn-locks, plus two brackets that slip under chrome clips on the shroud; four-seater has about a zillion snaps that fasten around the edge of the cockpit rails. Cheers Gary ************** Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) From Editorgary at aol.com Fri Jul 18 14:37:00 2008 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:37:00 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Touch-up Paint Message-ID: In a message dated 7/18/08 11:05:55 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > I guess it must be some kind of preservative to keep the paint from > hardening over time. Does that sound familiar to anyone, or is it a gimmick? > A guy in our local car group has franchised a business that specializes in doing touch-ups. Their claim is that their super-special secret formula goes into the nicks easier, and dries more quickly. Guess of some of our chemical guys is that it's a combination of a thinner and a hardener. The demos he did were impressive, however. Cheers Gary ************** Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Fri Jul 18 15:54:06 2008 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 07:54:06 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Friday Funny for OZ and those Down-under In-Reply-To: <04a001c8e908$73709f70$bb35480c@kirkgrbymz8g9u> References: <04a001c8e908$73709f70$bb35480c@kirkgrbymz8g9u> Message-ID: <0E346DD95F464EF098EA1BD1E2F0D572@PatrickQuinnPC> Struth! Youse blokes have no idea. That's a sheep shagging Kiwi joke, not a fair dinkum Aussie one. Besides a Kiwi would have said tuxidarmist. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia Ps It's a long way from New Zealand. -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+p_cquinn=tpg.com.au at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+p_cquinn=tpg.com.au at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of 62bt7 Sent: Saturday, 19 July 2008 5:00 AM To: Quinn, Patrick Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Friday Funny for OZ and those Down-under Subject: Friday Funny for OZ and those Down-Under A bloke walks into a bar in New Zealand and orders a shandy. All the Kiwis sitting around the bar look up, expecting to see another Australian visitor. The barman says, 'You ain't from around here, are ya?' The bloke says, 'No, I'm from Canada.' The barman says, 'What do you do in Canada?' The bloke says, 'I'm a taxidermist.' The barman says, 'A tixidermist? What the hick is a tixidermist? Do you drive a tixi?' 'No, a taxidermist doesn't drive a taxi. I mount animals.' The barman grins and yells......... 'He's okay boys, He's one of us.' Patrick, are you one of the boys ???? ;-)) What's a shandy ???? Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as p_cquinn at tpg.com.au http://www.team.net/archive From cbaustin at verizon.net Fri Jul 18 16:53:11 2008 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:53:11 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] last minute request Message-ID: <020f01c8e929$0e4e42c0$6401a8c0@universal1> Anyone in the Pittsburgh area for the PVGP tomorrow that might want a 'ride', contact me off-list. Might have a car (or motorcycle) with no driver available. Thanks, CB From cbaustin at verizon.net Fri Jul 18 17:12:26 2008 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:12:26 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] PVGP Participants Message-ID: <022201c8e92b$befa7650$6401a8c0@universal1> This comes too late for some that are already in the area - but - you need to be aware that there is a lot of highway construction ongoing this weekend with several projects impacting access to PVGP at Schenley Park. Best is to google 'penndot' and go to the construction update. The parkway (east) from PIT towards Monroeville (out-bound) will have lane restrictions ( and corresponding traffic back-ups) and the BLVD of the Allies access to Oakland is closed off completely (as far as I know right now). It will likely take a bit longer to get to the park than in years past - just a note to those that might be unaware. See you at the races! CB From steveg at abrazosdata.com Fri Jul 18 17:27:30 2008 From: steveg at abrazosdata.com (Steve B. Gerow) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:27:30 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] hardtop value - theft - thoughts Message-ID: Didn't one of these go for 5 grand last year on eBay? If so the thieves didn't mind a fixer-upper. Maybe all the suppliers could keep an eye out for people buying parts suitable for restoring 2-seat hardtops. I mean, aren't they rare as hen's teeth? -- Steve Gerow Pasadena CA 59 BN6 From Jwhlyadv at aol.com Fri Jul 18 17:47:17 2008 From: Jwhlyadv at aol.com (Jwhlyadv at aol.com) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:47:17 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Southeastern Classic Message-ID: Southeastern Classic September 18-21, 2008 Lynchburg, Tennessee Pull up a chair and make yourself at home. That's what Tennessee hospitality is all about. Good friends, good conversation, good food and good drink. And boy, is there a lot of good food and drink in Tennessee. Where do you want to start? How about a down-home dinner at Miss Mary Bobo's Boarding House. Just as in Mr. Jack's day, dinner is served family-style Monday through Saturday at 1 p.m. sharp (and at 11 a.m. during the busy seasons). In rural Tennessee, we call the midday meal "dinner"--not lunch--and in the evening we eat "supper." We have 200 seats available for Miss Mary Bobobs on Friday for "dinner" so this is first come, first serve. Tentative Schedule of Events Thursday, Sept. 18 Registration and Hospitality Friday, Sept 19 Car Show at the Motlow House, lunch at Miss Mary Bobobs, dinner on your own Saturday, Sept. 20 Rally, Gymkhana, Funkhana, Jack Daniels Party Sunday, Sept. 21 Good-byes Car Show, Rally, Gymkhana, Funkhana and more all with a Tennessee Twist. The Awards Banquet will be held at the Jack Daniel's Barbecue Pavilion. The open-air pavilion offers a spectacular view of the Jack Daniel's Hollow and the town of Lynchburg, Tennessee. And it's tailor-made for good southern cooking and old-fashioned fun. The menu includes sumptuous barbecue chicken and tangy pulled pork, creamy coleslaw, homemade potato salad, bubbling baked beans, hot homemade cornbread, tipsy baked apples, Jack Daniel's special chocolate-pecan pie, all you can drink including adult beverages, and a live band. Group transportation will be provided to and from the party stopping at motels, and this is required by Jack Daniels. Join us in September among the scenic byways of rural Tennessee. Great Food, Great Friends, and Great Cars. Visit _www.seclassic.www_ (http://www.seclassic.com/) for a registration form **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) From dwhite4949 at wowway.com Fri Jul 18 17:58:35 2008 From: dwhite4949 at wowway.com (Daniel and Diane White) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:58:35 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] hardtop value - theft - thoughts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48812E2B.6030502@wowway.com> Steve B. Gerow wrote: > Didn't one of these go for 5 grand last year on eBay? > > If so the thieves didn't mind a fixer-upper. > > Maybe all the suppliers could keep an eye out for people buying parts > suitable for restoring 2-seat hardtops. > > I mean, aren't they rare as hen's teeth? > Steve, It was taken from a barn in a rural area. The sad part is I'll bet the thieves have no idea of its value either monetarily or historically. Dan From tomfelts at windstream.net Fri Jul 18 19:05:23 2008 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (tomfelts at windstream.net) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:05:23 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] PVGP Participants Message-ID: <20080719010523.HYNE29060.ispmxmta06-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> Yep--leave it up to PennDot to screw with the major roads when there is a major event downtown!! If you are coming to the event FROM the East, you should have no traffic problems. BUT leaving the event and heading back EAST towards Monroeville will be a bear. For me, I'm taking Rt 28 N then do the around the thumb route to get to Murrysville rather than drive in that mess. tom > > From: "Charley Braum" > Date: 2008/07/18 Fri PM 07:12:26 EDT > To: "Spridgets List" , "Healey List" > > Subject: [Healeys] PVGP Participants > > This comes too late for some that are already in the area - but - you need > to be aware that there is a lot of highway construction ongoing this weekend > with several projects impacting access to PVGP at Schenley Park. > > Best is to google 'penndot' and go to the construction update. > > The parkway (east) from PIT towards Monroeville (out-bound) will have lane > restrictions ( and corresponding traffic back-ups) and the BLVD of the Allies > access to Oakland is closed off completely (as far as I know right now). > > It will likely take a bit longer to get to the park than in years past - > just a note to those that might be unaware. > > See you at the races! > > > CB > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From richchrysler at quickclic.net Fri Jul 18 20:09:38 2008 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 22:09:38 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] PVGP Participants References: <20080719010523.HYNE29060.ispmxmta06-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> Message-ID: <053e01c8e944$7fff12d0$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> For anybody going to this event, could you do me a favour and watch for a beautiful '56 BN2M finished in Florida Green/OEW with black interior that belonged to a fellow named Dave Trueman circa 1995. He owned a machine shop company in the Pittsburg area and we built up and restored his M here in Southern Ontario. I haven't seen the car or heard of Dave since the finished car was returned to him about June of '95. If you see such a car, I'd sure love to connect with the owner. I have lots of great restoration shots, and info. etc. Rich Chrysler From shop at justbrits.com Fri Jul 18 21:19:50 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:19:50 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] PVGP Participants References: <20080719010523.HYNE29060.ispmxmta06-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> Message-ID: <003801c8e94e$4ebd5150$6501a8c0@shop> <> He|| Tom, IDOT does it year round!!! As it IS said around here, "Illinois has TWO seasons: winter & construction !! " And as a 'transplant', trust me: TRUE !!!! From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Fri Jul 18 21:03:12 2008 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Leonard Hartnett) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:03:12 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Healey in the Newspaper Message-ID: <666F5CD0E1044784A56A780439A13F25@LeonardPC> In today's Sacramento Bee newspaper, in the Weekend Ticket section, under "DVDs The best of what's new", is a picture of actor Jason Stathom, star of the movie " the Bank Job". He is standing between a dark colored sedan and a Healey Blue 100-6. Only the front end of the Healey shows. I tried to find a link on the Bee's web site but could not. (The Other) Len Vacaville, California, USA 1967 3000 MKIII, HBJ8L39031 From shop at justbrits.com Fri Jul 18 22:32:37 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 22:32:37 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Healey in the Newspaper References: <666F5CD0E1044784A56A780439A13F25@LeonardPC> Message-ID: <013601c8e958$794ad3c0$6501a8c0@shop> http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Sacramento+Bee%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a Very FIRST 'hit', Len!! Never heard of Goggle, huh!!?? From glemon at neb.rr.com Fri Jul 18 21:47:54 2008 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (glemon at neb.rr.com) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 22:47:54 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Healey in the Newspaper Message-ID: <15447762.396771216439274993.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web18-z02> I just watched the movie (The Bank Job) tonight, although the cars do not play a major role there are lots of great classics that appear in many scenes, Statham is a thief who is trying to go straight running a small car dealership. Many TRs, Minis, an E-type, etc. in the movie set in early 70s London. It is also a pretty good flick that my wife and I enjoyed, reccomend it for a rent. Greg Lemon ---- Leonard Hartnett wrote: > In today's Sacramento Bee newspaper, in the Weekend Ticket section, under > "DVDs The best of what's new", is a picture of actor Jason Stathom, star of > the movie " the Bank Job". He is standing between a dark colored sedan and a > Healey Blue 100-6. Only the front end of the Healey shows. > > I tried to find a link on the Bee's web site but could not. > > (The Other) Len > Vacaville, California, USA > 1967 3000 MKIII, HBJ8L39031 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as glemon at neb.rr.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From glemon at neb.rr.com Fri Jul 18 21:47:56 2008 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (glemon at neb.rr.com) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 22:47:56 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Healey in the Newspaper Message-ID: <19908013.396781216439276329.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web18-z02> I just watched the movie (The Bank Job) tonight, although the cars do not play a major role there are lots of great classics that appear in many scenes, Statham is a thief who is trying to go straight running a small car dealership. Many TRs, Minis, an E-type, etc. in the movie set in early 70s London. It is also a pretty good flick that my wife and I enjoyed, reccomend it for a rent. Greg Lemon ---- Leonard Hartnett wrote: > In today's Sacramento Bee newspaper, in the Weekend Ticket section, under > "DVDs The best of what's new", is a picture of actor Jason Stathom, star of > the movie " the Bank Job". He is standing between a dark colored sedan and a > Healey Blue 100-6. Only the front end of the Healey shows. > > I tried to find a link on the Bee's web site but could not. > > (The Other) Len > Vacaville, California, USA > 1967 3000 MKIII, HBJ8L39031 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as glemon at neb.rr.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From rnbmail at yahoo.com Fri Jul 18 21:52:15 2008 From: rnbmail at yahoo.com (Robert Blair) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:52:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Wheels & Tires...... decision made. Message-ID: <517040.1894.qm@web37904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Listers, Thanks for all the chit-chat on the question of which combo is best. Rightly or wrongly I made my decision in favor of Dayton 15x5 chrome wires, Vredestein 185x15 tires - not the 185/70x15. Thought you would be anxious to know :-) Here is how its looking in Yellow/Red ....notice the push button starter. Will report tire driving impressions in late August after Monterey. Robert N. Blair 65 Yellow BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg which had a name of 100_6247.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg which had a name of 100_6249.JPG] From glemon at neb.rr.com Fri Jul 18 21:53:53 2008 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (glemon at neb.rr.com) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 22:53:53 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Healey in the Newspaper Message-ID: <19185271.397161216439633976.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web18-z02> More on "The Bank Job Cars", Loved watching the cars, this page has a lot but not all, worth watching over again just to try to spot them all. Greg http://www.imcdb.org/movie.php?id=200465 From rnbmail at yahoo.com Fri Jul 18 21:55:52 2008 From: rnbmail at yahoo.com (Robert Blair) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:55:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Wheels & Tires...... decision made. In-Reply-To: <517040.1894.qm@web37904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <404744.3092.qm@web37904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> OK, so what is the procedure for attaching a simple jpg to this list????? Or is that also now verboten? Robert N. Blair 65 Yellow BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com --- On Fri, 7/18/08, Robert Blair wrote: > From: Robert Blair > Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Wheels & Tires...... decision made. > To: "Healey List" > Cc: lucashly at comcast.net > Date: Friday, July 18, 2008, 8:52 PM > Listers, > > Thanks for all the chit-chat on the question of which combo > is best. > > Rightly or wrongly I made my decision in favor of Dayton > 15x5 chrome wires, > Vredestein 185x15 tires - not the 185/70x15. Thought you > would be anxious to > know :-) > > Here is how its looking in Yellow/Red ....notice the push > button starter. > > Will report tire driving impressions in late August after > Monterey. > > Robert N. Blair 65 Yellow BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com > > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg > which had a name of 100_6247.JPG] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg > which had a name of 100_6249.JPG] > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as rnbmail at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From ahbn6 at optonline.net Fri Jul 18 22:01:44 2008 From: ahbn6 at optonline.net (John Sims) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 00:01:44 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Wheels & Tires...... decision made. In-Reply-To: <404744.3092.qm@web37904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <517040.1894.qm@web37904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <404744.3092.qm@web37904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003601c8e954$286e2190$794a64b0$@net> You can not attach ANY file regardless of the extension. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Blair Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 11:56 PM To: Healey List Cc: lucashly at comcast.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 Wheels & Tires...... decision made. OK, so what is the procedure for attaching a simple jpg to this list????? Or is that also now verboten? Robert N. Blair 65 Yellow BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Fri Jul 18 22:53:10 2008 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Leonard Hartnett) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:53:10 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Healey in the Newspaper In-Reply-To: <013601c8e958$794ad3c0$6501a8c0@shop> References: <666F5CD0E1044784A56A780439A13F25@LeonardPC> <013601c8e958$794ad3c0$6501a8c0@shop> Message-ID: <8473F37B698744DF8229966C52E0882F@LeonardPC> Now, now, Ed. Let's be careful of what we assume (remember ass-u-me?). The link you provided took me to the Google search list. My entry of "Sacramento Bee" was still in the search box. What I meant when I said I could not find the link was I could not find a link to the picture on the Bee's site. They did not have a lot of stuff newer than yesterday and no link to the Weekend Ticket insert. I did not feel the need nor have the time to search further. I didn't really need to go to Google but it was the faster way at the time. I have the Bee in my Favorites list since I have sent e-mails to their automotive editor, had my car's picture in the paper, and had Letters to the Editor published. Love you anyway. You're like Friday Funnies that show up any day of the week. (The Other) Len Vacaville, California, USA 1967 3000 MKIII, HBJ8L39031 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed's Shop" To: "Healey Mail List" Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey in the Newspaper > http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Sacramento+Bee%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a > > Very FIRST 'hit', Len!! > > Never heard of Goggle, huh!!?? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as thehartnetts at earthlink.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Sat Jul 19 01:17:52 2008 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 17:17:52 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey Fridge Magnet Message-ID: <59941F56D6EC451981C73C7B69E8B7DD@PatrickQuinnPC> G'day For some reason my 28 year old daughter collects fridge magnets. Just the other day I mentioned that I recalled seeing an Austin-Healey fridge magnet and she said that she would love one. Anyone out there know where I can get one? Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia From jwbn6 at verizon.net Sat Jul 19 03:21:20 2008 From: jwbn6 at verizon.net (jerry wall) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 04:21:20 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey Fridge Magnet Message-ID: <757152.101511216459280800.JavaMail.root@vms229.mailsrvcs.net> patrick, several yrs ago, richard gordon used to have an assortment of big healey magnets. try him at healeyhundred at comcast.net cheers, jerry ===================== From: Patrick and Caroline Quinn Date: 2008/07/19 Sat AM 02:17:52 CDT To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey Fridge Magnet G'day For some reason my 28 year old daughter collects fridge magnets. Just the other day I mentioned that I recalled seeing an Austin-Healey fridge magnet and she said that she would love one. Anyone out there know where I can get one? Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as jwbn6 at verizon.net http://www.team.net/archive JERRY WALL BN6 ROWLETT, TX From healey.nut at gmail.com Sat Jul 19 04:54:53 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 18:54:53 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Healey in the Newspaper In-Reply-To: <013601c8e958$794ad3c0$6501a8c0@shop> References: <666F5CD0E1044784A56A780439A13F25@LeonardPC> <013601c8e958$794ad3c0$6501a8c0@shop> Message-ID: Ed - Hey, haven't you ever heard of this thing called tinyurl.com ????? Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Ed's Shop wrote: > > http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Sacramento+Bee%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a > > Very FIRST 'hit', Len!! > > Never heard of Goggle, huh!!?? From autofarm at cyg.net Sat Jul 19 05:03:14 2008 From: autofarm at cyg.net (Bob Yule) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 07:03:14 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Healey in the Newspaper References: <666F5CD0E1044784A56A780439A13F25@LeonardPC> Message-ID: <000e01c8e98f$0c066540$6500a8c0@OFFICE> Rented this movie, & watched it last night. The Healey only shows briefly at the begining. It is for sale on a used car lot, for #1110, I believe. A pair of "business regulation officers" pay a visit to the lot, smash the windshield and side windows from the sedan, a Singer, and make some, not too subtle adjustments to the bonnet of the Healey. Other than that, not a bad movie. Lots of period (late sixties) cars. Cheers.......Bob Check out our web site www.autofarm.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leonard Hartnett" > In today's Sacramento Bee newspaper, in the Weekend Ticket section, under > "DVDs The best of what's new", is a picture of actor Jason Stathom, star > of > the movie " the Bank Job". He is standing between a dark colored sedan > and a > Healey Blue 100-6. Only the front end of the Healey shows. From tomfelts at windstream.net Sat Jul 19 05:29:03 2008 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (tomfelts at windstream.net) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 7:29:03 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] PVGP Participants Message-ID: <20080719112903.GBKC29060.ispmxmta06-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> I'll look for it Rich and let him know your are looking for him. tom > > From: "Rich C" > Date: 2008/07/18 Fri PM 10:09:38 EDT > To: , > "Charley Braum" , > "Spridgets List" , > "Healey List" > Subject: Re: [Healeys] PVGP Participants > > For anybody going to this event, could you do me a favour and watch for a > beautiful '56 BN2M finished in Florida Green/OEW with black interior that > belonged to a fellow named Dave Trueman circa 1995. He owned a machine shop > company in the Pittsburg area and we built up and restored his M here in > Southern Ontario. I haven't seen the car or heard of Dave since the finished > car was returned to him about June of '95. > > If you see such a car, I'd sure love to connect with the owner. I have lots > of great restoration shots, and info. etc. > > Rich Chrysler From rjswain at hotmail.com Sat Jul 19 09:18:57 2008 From: rjswain at hotmail.com (Rick Swain) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:18:57 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Test - please ignore Message-ID: You didn;t ignore this!! Sorry. _________________________________________________________________ From ATIGHTPROD at aol.com Sat Jul 19 09:54:38 2008 From: ATIGHTPROD at aol.com (ATIGHTPROD at aol.com) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:54:38 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey Fridge Magnet Message-ID: Here's a link to a an ebay store for refrigerator magnets, he's got a bunch of Healey magnets both big Healey's and Sprites. He even has a 3 carb, 6 cylinder engine magnet. No connection to me, but I've gotten some magnets myself off ebay and thought I would give it a try and this is what I found right off the bat. Enjoy! _http://stores.ebay.com/JERRYS-AUTO-REFRIGERATOR-MAGNETS_ACADIAN-AMC-AUSTIN-HE ALEY_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfsubZ2QQftidZ2QQtZkm_ (http://stores.ebay.com/JERRYS-AUTO-REFRIGERATOR-MAGNETS_ACADIAN-AMC-AUSTIN-HEALEY_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfsubZ2QQft idZ2QQtZkm) Steven Kingsbury BN1 **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) From rnbmail at yahoo.com Sat Jul 19 10:20:21 2008 From: rnbmail at yahoo.com (Robert Blair) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:20:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Wheels & Tires...... decision made. In-Reply-To: <003601c8e954$286e2190$794a64b0$@net> Message-ID: <42920.88498.qm@web37903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks John, That sucks - so anyone who would like to see a couple of pics send me your real email address to to rnb at ix.netcom.com, and earthlink will be glad to support the request with a couple of attached jpgs. Robert N. Blair 65 Yellow BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com --- On Fri, 7/18/08, John Sims wrote: > From: John Sims > Subject: RE: [Healeys] BJ8 Wheels & Tires...... decision made. > To: rnbmail at yahoo.com, "'Healey List'" > Cc: lucashly at comcast.net > Date: Friday, July 18, 2008, 9:01 PM > You can not attach ANY file regardless of the extension. > > John Sims, BN6 > Aberdeen, NJ > > www.healey6.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of > Robert Blair > Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 11:56 PM > To: Healey List > Cc: lucashly at comcast.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 Wheels & Tires...... > decision made. > > OK, so what is the procedure for attaching a simple jpg to > this list????? > > Or is that also now verboten? > > Robert N. Blair 65 Yellow BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com From bn1 at pacbell.net Sat Jul 19 11:39:13 2008 From: bn1 at pacbell.net (Mr. Bill) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:39:13 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Healey insurance. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <488226C1.5000301@pacbell.net> I had decided not to publish the results of my research a few months ago because so few cars would qualify and they don't write the policy nation wide. But after these posts, I changed my mind.. I was quoting my restored '53 BN1 at an agreed amount of $50k with as few use restrictions as possible and higher liability limits. Hagarty was the highest with Grundy coming in second. Roland Wilhemy suggested I try AAA which is where I went. The problem is they will only write near perfect cars. They decline 68% of submissions including my one-owner '72 240Z. They have virtually no restrictions other than drivers age and record and the car be garaged; no usage, mileage, club only events, parades, etc. My policy is $250/500/100,000 liability, $5,000 Med, $100/300 UM and $49,950 Comp & Collision agreed amount with ZERO deductible. The ANNUAL premium is $315.00. That includes discounts for good driving record and club membership. They won't write $50k or higher without an appraisal. YMMV but be sure to try The Auto Club if you qualify. Bill Barnett Santa Ana, CA Healey w/AAA, other cars elsewhere Editorgary at aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 7/18/08 11:05:55 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net > writes: > > > >> A. Has anyone else had to sign off on such an agreement with any other >> insurance company? (hagarty, Grundy, etc) >> >> B. Has anyone seen such a disclaimer warning from any of its lift >> manufacturers? >> >> > > Try Hagerty... I still think they're the best in the business. Let us know > what you find out. > Cheers > Gary > > > ************** > Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as bn1 at pacbell.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From rnbmail at yahoo.com Sat Jul 19 12:01:41 2008 From: rnbmail at yahoo.com (Robert Blair) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:01:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Hub Splines - help??? Message-ID: <798411.11145.qm@web37902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Chassis Expert Listers, Question has just come up on the number of splines on the BJ8 hub. Questions are: Is there a coarse vs fine difference between early and later cars? For a mid 65 [32038] Mk3 Ser2 with trailing arm susp, which do I have? In ordering wires for a BJ8, is it necessary to define the spline count? Thanks .......... Robert N. Blair 65 Yellow BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com From Editorgary at aol.com Sat Jul 19 12:16:24 2008 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 14:16:24 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Auto Insurance Message-ID: In a message dated 7/19/08 10:42:10 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > > Hagarty was the highest with Grundy coming in second. Roland Wilhemy > suggested I try AAA which is where I went. > Is your insurance "Agreed Value" or "Stated Value" -- I wasn't aware that AAA writes any "agreed value" policies. There is a big difference, of course, in how the settlement amount is determined. Cheers gary ************** Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) From scotyp at comcast.net Sat Jul 19 12:25:00 2008 From: scotyp at comcast.net (scotyp at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 18:25:00 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Auto Insurance Message-ID: <071920081825.6519.4882317C000CB8FB0000197722135285739F979B010C9C@comcast.net> Has anyone mentioned American Collectors Insurance? I have used them through my USAA insurance. My policy is for $40,000 agreed value with the yearly premium at $240 and the usual restrictions applying. I have been a satisfied customer for 8 years... Scot 66 BJ8 -------------- Original message -------------- From: Editorgary at aol.com > In a message dated 7/19/08 10:42:10 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net > writes: > > > > > > Hagarty was the highest with Grundy coming in second. Roland Wilhemy > > suggested I try AAA which is where I went. > > > > Is your insurance "Agreed Value" or "Stated Value" -- I wasn't aware that AAA > writes any "agreed value" policies. There is a big difference, of course, in > how the settlement amount is determined. > Cheers > gary > > > ************** > Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as scotyp at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From msalter at precisionsportscar.com Sat Jul 19 12:26:59 2008 From: msalter at precisionsportscar.com (Michael Salter) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 14:26:59 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Hub Splines - help??? In-Reply-To: <798411.11145.qm@web37902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <798411.11145.qm@web37902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <008a01c8e9cd$08943fc0$19bcbf40$@com> The difference in the splines is in the TPI of the knock off nut thread. All the splines are the same. Up to and including Phase I BJ8's the threads were 12 TPI and thereafter they are 8 TPI. Michael Salter -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Blair Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 2:02 PM To: Healey List Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Hub Splines - help??? Chassis Expert Listers, Question has just come up on the number of splines on the BJ8 hub. Questions are: Is there a coarse vs fine difference between early and later cars? For a mid 65 [32038] Mk3 Ser2 with trailing arm susp, which do I have? In ordering wires for a BJ8, is it necessary to define the spline count? Thanks .......... Robert N. Blair 65 Yellow BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as msalter at precisionsportscar.com http://www.team.net/archive From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Sat Jul 19 12:30:58 2008 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 14:30:58 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Another Hard Top Question References: <071820081412.7821.4880A4D60001557A00001E8D220642461397900E0A0403019B@comcast.net> Message-ID: <001001c8e9cd$97cc3850$c041e046@markl946cfrd7q> I just returned from the MGA register car meet in Seven Springs, PA. and one of the vendors brought in a hard top for an MGA only to find out it was for a Healey. He wanted $1500. (ouch) in ratty condition and no idea if it was for a 2 seat or 4 seat. Needless to say it sat and I sure didn't have anyway of getting it home. It had the metal bars in the back window but the top was fiberglass not metal and he said it was made by _________, ________ Laminates. Can anyone fill in the blanks? How do you figure the "seatage" out if you don't have a car. Measure? MARK ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 10:12 AM Subject: [Healeys] Hardtop value > Hi Dan- > > I recently sold one on ebay that was in similar condition, however, It was > a 4 seater hardtop. It had several bids and after 3 or 4 days someone > clicked "buy it now" for $300. I hope that gives you some idea. > > Tom > '63 BJ7 obsesstoration > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as lapierrem at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From bn1 at pacbell.net Sat Jul 19 12:31:01 2008 From: bn1 at pacbell.net (Mr. Bill) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:31:01 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Auto Insurance In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <488232E5.6090604@pacbell.net> It is "Agreed value for vehicles", Gary. They started writing the policy last year. Why don't you check out your local AAA? Bill Editorgary at aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 7/19/08 10:42:10 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net > writes: > > > >> Hagarty was the highest with Grundy coming in second. Roland Wilhemy >> suggested I try AAA which is where I went. >> >> > > Is your insurance "Agreed Value" or "Stated Value" -- I wasn't aware that AAA > writes any "agreed value" policies. There is a big difference, of course, in > how the settlement amount is determined. > Cheers > gary > > > ************** > Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as bn1 at pacbell.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From bn1 at pacbell.net Sat Jul 19 12:46:19 2008 From: bn1 at pacbell.net (Mr. Bill) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:46:19 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Temporary web space. Message-ID: <4882367B.2070304@pacbell.net> At Conclave 2008, Gerry Coker was gracious enough to sign the facia of my BN1 and now I'm looking for a way to preserve his signature. I have some ideas but want to ask this List. As it is hard to describe, I'd like to be able for you to link to a couple of pictures of it. Is there anyone who could post my pictures on their website for a week or two only? MANY thx in advance, Bill Barnett '53 BN1 From bn1 at pacbell.net Sat Jul 19 13:04:30 2008 From: bn1 at pacbell.net (Mr. Bill) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:04:30 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Temporary web space. In-Reply-To: <4882367B.2070304@pacbell.net> References: <4882367B.2070304@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <48823ABE.7060601@pacbell.net> I have an answer and they will be up shortly. Thx, Bill Mr. Bill wrote: > At Conclave 2008, Gerry Coker was gracious enough to sign the facia of > my BN1 and now I'm looking for a way to preserve his signature. I have > some ideas but want to ask this List. > > As it is hard to describe, I'd like to be able for you to link to a > couple of pictures of it. Is there anyone who could post my pictures on > their website for a week or two only? > > MANY thx in advance, > > Bill Barnett > '53 BN1 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as bn1 at pacbell.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From shop at justbrits.com Sat Jul 19 14:24:54 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 14:24:54 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Temporary web space. References: <4882367B.2070304@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <015501c8e9dd$81ec9970$6501a8c0@shop> <> I'll have them up later today, Bill. Something called 'work' keeps getting in my way!! From Jwhlyadv at aol.com Sat Jul 19 13:29:34 2008 From: Jwhlyadv at aol.com (Jwhlyadv at aol.com) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:29:34 EDT Subject: [Healeys] BJ7 engine number Message-ID: Bill Dahlstrom of the Bluegrass Club is trying to figure out if he has the correct engine in his car. Here are the numbers: VIN# HBJ7L/22948; and the engine # 29K RU / H16125. Anyone have an idea about BJ7 engine numbers? Does this sound right? I know the ultimate test is a Heritage certificate. Thanks for your time and help. Jim Werner Louisville, KY **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) From ahbn6 at optonline.net Sat Jul 19 14:10:05 2008 From: ahbn6 at optonline.net (John Sims) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:10:05 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Temporary web space. In-Reply-To: <48823F24.6010401@pacbell.net> References: <4882367B.2070304@pacbell.net> <005201c8e9d0$5f955270$1ebff750$@net> <48823F24.6010401@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <005601c8e9db$6fc65e40$4f531ac0$@net> Up and running on my site at: http://www.healey6.com/literature.htm John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ www.healey6.com From: Mr. Bill [mailto:bn1 at pacbell.net] Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 3:23 PM To: John Sims Subject: Re: [Healeys] Temporary web space. Hi John, Here they are. I didn't reduce them not knowing what you wanted. Thx again, Bill John Sims wrote: I will. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mr. Bill Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 2:46 PM To: Healey Subject: [Healeys] Temporary web space. At Conclave 2008, Gerry Coker was gracious enough to sign the facia of my BN1 and now I'm looking for a way to preserve his signature. I have some ideas but want to ask this List. As it is hard to describe, I'd like to be able for you to link to a couple of pictures of it. Is there anyone who could post my pictures on their website for a week or two only? MANY thx in advance, From rchaskell at earthlink.net Sat Jul 19 14:24:02 2008 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:24:02 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Another Hard Top Question In-Reply-To: <001001c8e9cd$97cc3850$c041e046@markl946cfrd7q> References: <071820081412.7821.4880A4D60001557A00001E8D220642461397900E0A0403019B@comcast.net> <001001c8e9cd$97cc3850$c041e046@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: <48824D62.2000108@earthlink.net> The original tops were fiberglass, not metal. Universal Laminations was one manufacturer of a saloon conversion and a hardtop for the AH 100. Mark LaPierre wrote: > I just returned from the MGA register car meet in Seven Springs, PA. and > one of the vendors brought in a hard top for an MGA only to find out it was > for a Healey. He wanted $1500. (ouch) in ratty condition and no idea if > it was for a 2 seat or 4 seat. Needless to say it sat and I sure didn't > have anyway of getting it home. It had the metal bars in the back window > but the top was fiberglass not metal and he said it was made by _________, > ________ Laminates. Can anyone fill in the blanks? > > How do you figure the "seatage" out if you don't have a car. Measure? > > MARK From Awgertoo at aol.com Sat Jul 19 15:13:33 2008 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 17:13:33 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Another Hard Top Question Message-ID: Universal Best--Michael ----------------------------------- In a message dated 7/19/2008 2:32:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lapierrem at sbcglobal.net writes: it was made by _________, ________ Laminates. Can anyone fill in the blanks **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) From shop at justbrits.com Sat Jul 19 16:16:14 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:16:14 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Temporary web space. References: <4882367B.2070304@pacbell.net> <48823ABE.7060601@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <022a01c8e9ed$0f4f37f0$6501a8c0@shop> A 'proper' page with BOTH of Bill's pics and with the ability to "Reply" maybe found at: http://www.justbrits.com/Articles/MrBillQuestion.html (tinyurl NOT required). Links to large pics are NOT working but I AM working on them. Ed PS: Will be add to "Various Articles" AFTER i 'fix'! From sbyers at ec.rr.com Sat Jul 19 15:22:59 2008 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8Healeys) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 14:22:59 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BJ7 engine number In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000901c8e9e5$9ed91ab0$dc8b5010$@rr.com> Jim, the engine is out of a BJ8, with a chassis number close to 41532 (which had engine 29K/RU/H16124). BJ7 engines have a serial number beginning 29F, not 29K. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jwhlyadv at aol.com Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 12:30 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] BJ7 engine number Bill Dahlstrom of the Bluegrass Club is trying to figure out if he has the correct engine in his car. Here are the numbers: VIN# HBJ7L/22948; and the engine # 29K RU / H16125. Anyone have an idea about BJ7 engine numbers? Does this sound right? I know the ultimate test is a Heritage certificate. Thanks for your time and help. Jim Werner Louisville, KY From shop at justbrits.com Sat Jul 19 16:24:16 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:24:16 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Temporary web space. References: <4882367B.2070304@pacbell.net> <48823ABE.7060601@pacbell.net> <022a01c8e9ed$0f4f37f0$6501a8c0@shop> Message-ID: <024601c8e9ee$2ecf1270$6501a8c0@shop> <.>> FIXED !! Amazing how a simple " _ " WILL fubar things!!! Ed From shop at justbrits.com Sat Jul 19 16:30:33 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:30:33 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] BJ7 engine number References: Message-ID: <024e01c8e9ef$0faf9580$6501a8c0@shop> <> BJ-8, Jim. "Hortense THE Healey wearing STD ILL plates AH BJ 7 " (HBJ7L/22707) has 29F-RU-H/3596 so his car is not much 'newer' than mine!! Ed From schauss at worldnet.att.net Sat Jul 19 15:40:45 2008 From: schauss at worldnet.att.net (Peter Schauss) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 17:40:45 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BJ7 engine number In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080719214024.5AF3B18789E@autox.team.net> 29k is a BJ8 engine. HTH, Peter Schauss 1963 BJ7 1980 MGB > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces+schauss=worldnet.att.net at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces+schauss=worldnet.att.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf > Of Jwhlyadv at aol.com > Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 3:30 PM > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] BJ7 engine number > > Bill Dahlstrom of the Bluegrass Club is trying to figure out if he has the > correct engine in his car. Here are the numbers: > > VIN# HBJ7L/22948; and the engine # 29K RU / H16125. > > Anyone have an idea about BJ7 engine numbers? Does this sound right? > > I know the ultimate test is a Heritage certificate. > > Thanks for your time and help. > > > > > Jim Werner > Louisville, KY > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as schauss at worldnet.att.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From bn1 at pacbell.net Sat Jul 19 16:04:00 2008 From: bn1 at pacbell.net (Mr. Bill) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:04:00 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Protecting Gerry's signature. Message-ID: <488264D0.2080502@pacbell.net> Geez, now I have a few people lending me space, THANKS! The question remains: How can I protect the signature and preferably, not harm it or my facia which is painted in acrylic enamel? The pics can be viewed at: http://www.healey6.com/literature.htm Thanks John! or http://www.justbrits.com/Articles/MrBillQuestion.html Thanks Ed! Answers private or to the List are most welcome! Bill From healeyguy at aol.com Sat Jul 19 16:10:56 2008 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Healeyguy) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:10:56 -1000 Subject: [Healeys] Protecting Gerry's signature. In-Reply-To: <488264D0.2080502@pacbell.net> References: <488264D0.2080502@pacbell.net> Message-ID: Bill What type of pen did Gerry use to sign the dash? Aloha Perry In a message dated 07/19/08 12:04:50 Hawaiian Standard Time, bn1 at pacbell.net writes: Geez, now I have a few people lending me space, THANKS! The question remains: How can I protect the signature and preferably, not harm it or my facia which is painted in acrylic enamel? The pics can be viewed at: http://www.healey6.com/literature.htm Thanks John! or http://www.justbrits.com/Articles/MrBillQuestion.html Thanks Ed! Answers private or to the List are most welcome! Bill _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as healeyguy at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive From bn1 at pacbell.net Sat Jul 19 16:54:57 2008 From: bn1 at pacbell.net (Mr. Bill) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:54:57 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Protecting Gerry's signature. In-Reply-To: <488264D0.2080502@pacbell.net> References: <488264D0.2080502@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <488270C1.3020006@pacbell.net> To answer the most asked question: Gerry signed it in the silver, fine point, felt tip pen like found in art stores. I can't answer more than that as it was a spur-of-the-moment thing and I borrowed the pen. :-) Bill Mr. Bill wrote: > Geez, now I have a few people lending me space, THANKS! > > The question remains: How can I protect the signature and preferably, > not harm it or my facia which is painted in acrylic enamel? > > The pics can be viewed at: http://www.healey6.com/literature.htm > Thanks John! > > or > > http://www.justbrits.com/Articles/MrBillQuestion.html Thanks Ed! > > Answers private or to the List are most welcome! > > Bill > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as bn1 at pacbell.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From healey.nut at gmail.com Sat Jul 19 18:17:45 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:17:45 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Protecting Gerry's signature. In-Reply-To: <488264D0.2080502@pacbell.net> References: <488264D0.2080502@pacbell.net> Message-ID: Seems to me to cover the facia with some sort of clear marine epoxy type paint (or two pack?) would probably be the ticket for this. On 7/20/08, Mr. Bill wrote: > Geez, now I have a few people lending me space, THANKS! > > The question remains: How can I protect the signature and preferably, > not harm it or my facia which is painted in acrylic enamel? > > The pics can be viewed at: http://www.healey6.com/literature.htm > Thanks John! > > or > > http://www.justbrits.com/Articles/MrBillQuestion.html Thanks Ed! > > Answers private or to the List are most welcome! > > Bill > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 From glemon at neb.rr.com Sat Jul 19 18:46:38 2008 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (glemon at neb.rr.com) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 19:46:38 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BN1 Tranny Casing Message-ID: <4785474.95611216514798949.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web28-z02> I have a BN1 tranny casing that is taking up space in my overutliized garage. It is in good shape except for a crack or chip where one of the O/D studs would go in, but there is plenty of beef still around this opening so I don't think it affects the integrity of the casing other than for that particular stud, and in fact it was in servie for may years this way with no problems Anyway, need to clear space, someone on the list can have it or shipping plus a few bucks for my packing/time, let me know if interested, last I checked they weren't making any more of these. Greg Lemon Midwest, USA From tomfelts at windstream.net Sat Jul 19 19:53:11 2008 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (tomfelts at windstream.net) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:53:11 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] For Rich Chrysler Message-ID: <20080720015311.WTQY29060.ispmxmta06-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> Hi Rich----looked for your friends 56BN2M today but it was not there. We have another big day tomorrow so maybe he will be there then. Lots of Healeys and other Brit cars today-----actually about 300 - 350 Brit cars--my guess. CB how close am I on that number? Also, there are at least 6 Healeys running in the race and tomorrow is race day. We will see how they do against Tivy Shinton and his Jag 140. He hasn't been beat in 10 or 11 years, so it will be tough for the Healeys--maybe. Cheers tom From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat Jul 19 20:12:29 2008 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (Rick Neville) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 19:12:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Protecting Gerry's signature. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <959895.24519.qm@web51409.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Although this makes sense to me, too, I'd suggest whatever method you try should be first tested by using the same pen on a scrap piece of metal and trying your covering over it. Wouldn't want to see Gerry's signature turn into a runny mess, Rick --- On Sat, 7/19/08, Alan Seigrist wrote: From: Alan Seigrist Subject: Re: [Healeys] Protecting Gerry's signature. To: "Mr. Bill" , "Healey" Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 8:17 PM Seems to me to cover the facia with some sort of clear marine epoxy type paint (or two pack?) would probably be the ticket for this. On 7/20/08, Mr. Bill wrote: > Geez, now I have a few people lending me space, THANKS! > > The question remains: How can I protect the signature and preferably, > not harm it or my facia which is painted in acrylic enamel? > > The pics can be viewed at: http://www.healey6.com/literature.htm > Thanks John! > > or > > http://www.justbrits.com/Articles/MrBillQuestion.html Thanks Ed! > > Answers private or to the List are most welcome! > > Bill > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive From clocks at midcoast.com Sat Jul 19 20:34:01 2008 From: clocks at midcoast.com (James Lea) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:34:01 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Protecting Gerry's signature. References: <959895.24519.qm@web51409.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000401c8ea11$11fcc160$0201a8c0@JIM> Cut a nice neat oval of acrylic and fasten it with two chrome screws. It's certainly worth to the value of the car than the harm the screws will do. You could even sandblast a rim around the oval to make it look more like a frame. Cheers, JL James Lea PO Box 25 Rockport Maine 04856 1-207-236-3632 1951 Triumph Renown 1952 MG TD 1952 Triumph Mayflower 1958 Rover P4 1962 Austin Healey BT7 1980 Commuta-car Electric From shop at justbrits.com Sat Jul 19 21:49:15 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:49:15 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Ace Cafe 8th July 08 Message-ID: <006401c8ea1f$3904c9c0$6501a8c0@shop> Lifted from Jensen List!! If you enjoy British Iron, you WILL love this!! Alan, been there?? And everybody can kill the audio!! Sorry, nut didn't see even 1 Big Healey nor Frogeye!! LONG but worth it, IMHO!! Last week spent a great couple of hours at the Ace Cafi Classic Car Night (2nd Tues of Month). The usual Jensen suspects were there, enjoying the ambience. Nice to see Dave, Steve Chris, Alan etc, to see them, nice. I took my Vidcam and have posted a sequence on YouTube. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ILzULQ_CZNE From jsoderling at astound.net Sat Jul 19 22:11:47 2008 From: jsoderling at astound.net (John Soderling) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:11:47 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Wheels & Tires...... decision made. References: <517040.1894.qm@web37904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <040901c8ea1e$ba8adbc0$6501a8c0@Soderling> Robert, I'm interested in knowing how 185/80R15 tires work out on your car. I was thinking of getting that size when I bought new tires for my Healey four years ago and was told that they were too big for the Healey and the front tires would rub the wheel wells when turning sharply. Please let me know how they work out. Thanks. John 100-6 Erika the Red ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Blair" To: "Healey List" Cc: Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 8:52 PM Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Wheels & Tires...... decision made. > Listers, > > Thanks for all the chit-chat on the question of which combo is best. > > Rightly or wrongly I made my decision in favor of Dayton 15x5 chrome > wires, > Vredestein 185x15 tires - not the 185/70x15. Thought you would be anxious > to > know :-) > > Here is how its looking in Yellow/Red ....notice the push button starter. > > Will report tire driving impressions in late August after Monterey. > > Robert N. Blair 65 Yellow BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com > > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg which had a name > of 100_6247.JPG] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg which had a name > of 100_6249.JPG] From rnbmail at yahoo.com Sun Jul 20 00:27:10 2008 From: rnbmail at yahoo.com (Robert Blair) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 23:27:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Wheels & Tires...... decision made. In-Reply-To: <040901c8ea1e$ba8adbc0$6501a8c0@Soderling> Message-ID: <326311.54442.qm@web37905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> John, I will let you know when I have it on the road in mid august. Theory says that the diameter of the tire [26.25] and the width [185mm] of the body and the width of the trad [5.5inched] should be fine for BJ8. There was a posting recently that talked about early vs late front fender space - as I remenber the early cars have a smaller fender well and are more susceptible to rubbing on a turn. I am comfortable that I will be fine. Robert. Robert N. Blair 65 Yellow BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com --- On Sat, 7/19/08, John Soderling wrote: > From: John Soderling > Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 Wheels & Tires...... decision made. > To: "Robert Blair" > Cc: "Healey List" > Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 9:11 PM > Robert, > I'm interested in knowing how 185/80R15 tires work out > on your car. I was > thinking of getting that size when I bought new tires for > my Healey four > years ago and was told that they were too big for the > Healey and the front > tires would rub the wheel wells when turning sharply. > Please let me know how they work out. > Thanks. > John > 100-6 Erika the Red > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Blair" > To: "Healey List" > Cc: > Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 8:52 PM > Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Wheels & Tires...... decision > made. > > > > Listers, > > > > Thanks for all the chit-chat on the question of which > combo is best. > > > > Rightly or wrongly I made my decision in favor of > Dayton 15x5 chrome > > wires, > > Vredestein 185x15 tires - not the 185/70x15. Thought > you would be anxious > > to > > know :-) > > > > Here is how its looking in Yellow/Red ....notice the > push button starter. > > > > Will report tire driving impressions in late August > after Monterey. > > > > Robert N. Blair 65 Yellow BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com > > > > > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type > image/pjpeg which had a name > > of 100_6247.JPG] > > > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type > image/pjpeg which had a name > > of 100_6249.JPG] From peter at easterton.com Sun Jul 20 03:28:25 2008 From: peter at easterton.com (Peter Hunt) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:28:25 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] BJ7 engine number References: Message-ID: <005901c8ea4a$f7a31a00$0301a8c0@oemcomputer> Jim, My 1963 BJ7 3000 MK II - VIN HBJ7/23176. (Right hand drive) Original engine no. 29F RUH4044 Date of original registration in the UK 28th June 1963. Just 228 cars away from Bill's. Regards, Peter Scotland. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 8:29 PM Subject: [Healeys] BJ7 engine number > Bill Dahlstrom of the Bluegrass Club is trying to figure out if he has the > correct engine in his car. Here are the numbers: > > VIN# HBJ7L/22948; and the engine # 29K RU / H16125. > > Anyone have an idea about BJ7 engine numbers? Does this sound right? > > I know the ultimate test is a Heritage certificate. > > Thanks for your time and help. > > > > > Jim Werner > Louisville, KY > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as peter at easterton.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > ______________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > http://www.netintelligence.com/email > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.2/1561 - Release Date: 18/07/2008 18:35 From healey.nut at gmail.com Sun Jul 20 04:44:15 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:44:15 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Protecting Gerry's signature. In-Reply-To: <000401c8ea11$11fcc160$0201a8c0@JIM> References: <959895.24519.qm@web51409.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <000401c8ea11$11fcc160$0201a8c0@JIM> Message-ID: Better than that why don't you get a nice piece of clear cling plastic (like the stuff covering the front of a new mobile phone or screen guard for an iPhone) and just slap that on. Actually - even better have someone apply the Clear Bra to your dash. Alan - Original message - On 7/20/08, James Lea wrote: > Cut a nice neat oval of acrylic and fasten it with two chrome screws. It's > certainly worth to the value of the car than the harm the screws will do. > You could even sandblast a rim around the oval to make it look more like a > frame. Cheers, JL > > James Lea > PO Box 25 > Rockport Maine 04856 > 1-207-236-3632 > > 1951 Triumph Renown > 1952 MG TD > 1952 Triumph Mayflower > 1958 Rover P4 > 1962 Austin Healey BT7 > 1980 Commuta-car Electric > > > -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 From kansl at net1plus.com Sun Jul 20 04:50:49 2008 From: kansl at net1plus.com (Kurt Leslie) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 06:50:49 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] 62bt7 Message-ID: <000401c8ea56$7cdc5280$e8c264d0@userch6dgy3z1d> Took my healey for a ride yesterday bt7, was a hot day but temp in car ok no traffic. On the way home the engine started skipping on acceleration and stopped completely within a few miles and I assumed fuel pump, but it was not it was electrical. Removed distributor cap and rotor had no real wear, less than 300 miles on cap, rotor,points and condenser, however there was a small amount of black arcing dust on the heal of the outer rotor contact, put spare rotor in and started and ran fine, I am still not sure what happened as the rotor looked ok to begin with any ideas? Perhaps the hot weather effected the condenser? Kurt From healey.nut at gmail.com Sun Jul 20 05:47:55 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:47:55 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] 62bt7 In-Reply-To: <000401c8ea56$7cdc5280$e8c264d0@userch6dgy3z1d> References: <000401c8ea56$7cdc5280$e8c264d0@userch6dgy3z1d> Message-ID: Kurt - If your rotor is the kind with a brass rivet, that's the problem. 80% of the new rotors sold out there are no good. Order a pair of new rotors from Norman Nock at BCS or Cape International in the UK - they have good rotors. Chances are your spare won't last either if the same as the new one that just went bad, don't drive too far from home until fixed! Alan On 7/20/08, Kurt Leslie wrote: > Took my healey for a ride yesterday bt7, was a hot day but temp in car > ok no traffic. On the way home the engine started skipping on > acceleration and stopped completely within a few miles and I assumed > fuel pump, but it was not it was electrical. Removed distributor cap and > rotor had no real wear, less than 300 miles on cap, rotor,points and > condenser, however there was a small amount of black arcing dust on the > heal of the outer rotor contact, put spare rotor in and started and ran > fine, I am still not sure what happened as the rotor looked ok to begin > with any ideas? Perhaps the hot weather effected the condenser? Kurt > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 From ronald-ray at sbcglobal.net Sun Jul 20 07:16:36 2008 From: ronald-ray at sbcglobal.net (Ronald J. Ray) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:16:36 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 62bt7 In-Reply-To: <000401c8ea56$7cdc5280$e8c264d0@userch6dgy3z1d> Message-ID: Kurt, The exact thing happened to me. The only thought I had was the distributor bushing was worn causing the air gap between the edge of the rotor and the plug wire contacts to vary, and possible even the edge of the rotor touching the pug contacts. Maybe this caused the black residue to occur. I always care 2 or 3 spare rotors, although I didn't have one with me when it happened to me. I have not done anything about this yet. And I have no plans to install electronic ignition. Any thoughts by others would be appreciated. Ron -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+ronald-ray=sbcglobal.net at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+ronald-ray=sbcglobal.net at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Kurt Leslie Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 5:51 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] 62bt7 Took my healey for a ride yesterday bt7, was a hot day but temp in car ok no traffic. On the way home the engine started skipping on acceleration and stopped completely within a few miles and I assumed fuel pump, but it was not it was electrical. Removed distributor cap and rotor had no real wear, less than 300 miles on cap, rotor,points and condenser, however there was a small amount of black arcing dust on the heal of the outer rotor contact, put spare rotor in and started and ran fine, I am still not sure what happened as the rotor looked ok to begin with any ideas? Perhaps the hot weather effected the condenser? Kurt From ronald-ray at sbcglobal.net Sun Jul 20 07:19:42 2008 From: ronald-ray at sbcglobal.net (Ronald J. Ray) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:19:42 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 62bt7 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Alan, What does the brass rivet that holds the brass contact piece onto the plastic rotor have to do with black residue forming on the edged of the brass rotor contact? The problem I have had with some new rotors is that the rivet breaks in shear. A completely different problem than what Kurt and I experienced. Ron -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+ronald-ray=sbcglobal.net at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+ronald-ray=sbcglobal.net at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Alan Seigrist Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 6:48 AM To: Kurt Leslie; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] 62bt7 Kurt - If your rotor is the kind with a brass rivet, that's the problem. 80% of the new rotors sold out there are no good. Order a pair of new rotors from Norman Nock at BCS or Cape International in the UK - they have good rotors. Chances are your spare won't last either if the same as the new one that just went bad, don't drive too far from home until fixed! Alan On 7/20/08, Kurt Leslie wrote: > Took my healey for a ride yesterday bt7, was a hot day but temp in car > ok no traffic. On the way home the engine started skipping on > acceleration and stopped completely within a few miles and I assumed > fuel pump, but it was not it was electrical. Removed distributor cap and > rotor had no real wear, less than 300 miles on cap, rotor,points and > condenser, however there was a small amount of black arcing dust on the > heal of the outer rotor contact, put spare rotor in and started and ran > fine, I am still not sure what happened as the rotor looked ok to begin > with any ideas? Perhaps the hot weather effected the condenser? Kurt From gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com Sun Jul 20 09:38:38 2008 From: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com (Richard Collins) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:38:38 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Healey insurance. In-Reply-To: <488226C1.5000301@pacbell.net> References: <488226C1.5000301@pacbell.net> Message-ID: Fyi, my BN7 premium with LeLand-West, full of restrictions including the garage lift, and as a second car on the policy (my other car is classified as an exotic and not a classic so therein lies a special circumstance), Agreed value $30 k on the BN7 is $225; Hagarty using the on-lline quote tool was $281; My other cars (daily drivers) are with hartford. Richard of KY> Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:39:13 -0700> From: bn1 at pacbell.net> To: healeys at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey insurance.> > I had decided not to publish the results of my research a few months ago > because so few cars would qualify and they don't write the policy nation > wide. But after these posts, I changed my mind..> > I was quoting my restored '53 BN1 at an agreed amount of $50k with as > few use restrictions as possible and higher liability limits.> > Hagarty was the highest with Grundy coming in second. Roland Wilhemy > suggested I try AAA which is where I went. The problem is they will > only write near perfect cars. They decline 68% of submissions including > my one-owner '72 240Z. They have virtually no restrictions other than > drivers age and record and the car be garaged; no usage, mileage, club > only events, parades, etc.> > My policy is $250/500/100,000 liability, $5,000 Med, $100/300 UM and > $49,950 Comp & Collision agreed amount with ZERO deductible. The ANNUAL > premium is $315.00. That includes discounts for good driving record and > club membership. They won't write $50k or higher without an appraisal.> > YMMV but be sure to try The Auto Club if you qualify.> > Bill Barnett> Santa Ana, CA> Healey w/AAA, other cars elsewhere> > Editorgary at aol.com wrote:> > In a message dated 7/18/08 11:05:55 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net> > writes:> >> >> > > >> A. Has anyone else had to sign off on such an agreement with any other> >> insurance company? (hagarty, Grundy, etc)> >>> >> B. Has anyone seen such a disclaimer warning from any of its lift> >> manufacturers?> >>> >> > >> > Try Hagerty... I still think they're the best in the business. Let us know> > what you find out.> > Cheers> > Gary> >> >> > **************> > Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for> > FanHouse Fantasy Football today.> >> > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)> > _______________________________________________> > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> >> > Healeys at autox.team.net> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys> >> > You are subscribed as bn1 at pacbell.net> >> > http://www.team.net/archive> _______________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > Healeys at autox.team.net> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys> > You are subscribed as gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com> > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live for mobile, your contacts travel with you. http://www.windowslive.com/mobile/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_mobile_0720 08 From fmags at cox.net Sun Jul 20 10:05:16 2008 From: fmags at cox.net (fmags) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 11:05:16 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] protecting Gerry's signature Message-ID: <000901c8ea82$669f67b0$0201a8c0@debo9w9s34m23y> I wouldn't touch a thing; just be careful what you clean it with over the years; you wouldn't want to damage it. Gerry Coker and Roger Menadue signed my dash at Tri Healey at least 15 years ago with a Sharpie permanent marker and I never tried to preserve it with anything; I'm just careful cleaning it; still looks good. From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sun Jul 20 11:08:58 2008 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (Rick Neville) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:08:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] SU Help, Please? Message-ID: <100369.60112.qm@web51407.mail.re2.yahoo.com> After cleaning up the original HS6 carbs (which have about 15,000 mi on them) on my BJ7, I'm having a problem I just can't seem to solve. Upon start up, the engine revs right to the redline. The throttle linkage appears adjusted correctly and when I check the butterflies after shutting down, they are completely closed. The throttle screws are completely backed off and the jet nuts have been turned down two turns. Any suggestions? Thanks, Rick From thomas3 at shaw.ca Sun Jul 20 13:15:39 2008 From: thomas3 at shaw.ca (rick thomas) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:15:39 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] bad water pump Message-ID: Hi Guys and Girls am putting my engine back together after what seems like a long rebuilding process when I installed the water pump which I purchased from one of the well known suppliers, the pulleys didn't line up there was some talk of this a while back but I don't remember what was done to fix the problem! can the pulley be pulled and a shim installed behind it? Thanks for your input Rick, golden BJ8 From rkorn at simnet.is Sun Jul 20 17:21:46 2008 From: rkorn at simnet.is (rkorn at simnet.is) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:21:46 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Healey storage Message-ID: I realize it is rather early to be talking about winter storage but my trip to the states ends in a 10 days and I found a nice garage to store my Healey next to a beautiful XK 120.My question is whether I should put it up on jack stands for 11 months or not. The tires are new, everything else about the car is 52 years old. Thanks , Richard BN2 From f.ronald.rader at gmail.com Sun Jul 20 19:06:01 2008 From: f.ronald.rader at gmail.com (F. Ronald Rader) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:06:01 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 62bt7 In-Reply-To: <000401c8ea56$7cdc5280$e8c264d0@userch6dgy3z1d> References: <000401c8ea56$7cdc5280$e8c264d0@userch6dgy3z1d> Message-ID: <5caeedb50807201806g448986fewf120319ac1fc72e5@mail.gmail.com> Two thoughts. Possible vapor lock that cured it self while you fiddled with the rotor. All of my spares are used. I take a fairly new part (couple of hundred miles) and make that my spare. Then I know it is good. Same with points, condenser, etc. All of my spare belts and hoses have been on the car. I know they work. I know they fix my car. Also makes it easier in the dark. ron rader 1965 BJ8 1967 E FHC On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 3:50 AM, Kurt Leslie wrote: > Spare rotor in and started and ran fine, I am still not sure what happened as the rotor looked ok to begin From healey.nut at gmail.com Sun Jul 20 19:09:17 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:09:17 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Healey storage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Richard - With new radials they don't really take a set like the old ply tires did when sitting, so I'd say just leave it on the ground - less chance for it to fall off the jack stands. The tires will stay round & balanced. Alan On 7/21/08, rkorn at simnet.is wrote: > I realize it is rather early to be talking about winter storage but my trip > to the states ends in a 10 days and I found a nice garage to store my Healey > next to a beautiful XK 120.My question is whether I should put it up on jack > stands for 11 months or not. The tires are new, everything else about the > car is 52 years old. > > Thanks , > > Richard > BN2 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 From ahpowered at hotmail.com Sun Jul 20 20:56:38 2008 From: ahpowered at hotmail.com (scott willis) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:56:38 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Keeneland Concours Message-ID: Hey kids, I had a chance to drive my Jag E 66FHC 2.5 hrs up with my group to Keeneland this weekend. A 66 FHC won it's class against some stiff competition. I drove my BN7 up 2 years ago. 100 cars were invited to the Concours and the lawn filled with an incredible array of visitors. There was a Healey in the show that was completely unrestored and I believe it was a show car from NY from back in the day. It is the black and gray one in the photos. Here are shots of the show. You can fast forward, etc. http://good-times.webshots.com/slideshow/564169968yMEylQ Here is a vid of the FHC accepting the award. Click "High quality". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJdxD73hC7E Here is my new love, a Bandini 750cc. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpWShInnnwQ Enjoy. Cheers, Scott Willis Mashed 60 BN7 AH Club USA 59 MGA 66 E-Type FHC http://www.bgeuroclassics.org BG Euro Classics Car Club President Bowling Green, KY _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live for mobile, your contacts travel with you. From sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au Mon Jul 21 00:35:19 2008 From: sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au (sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:35:19 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Rotor Buttons Message-ID: <1216622119.48842e27762f9@webmail.hotkey.net.au> As previously mentioned the mechanical/dynamic load on these items is so little that I have driven with my rotor held together with electrical insulation tape. Maybe the issue is one of being supplied the CORRECT ITEM ( THEY ALL LOOK THE SAME ) Can I suggest a trial fit before attempting to run the engine. By using some plastic bearing clearence strip attached to the end of the rotor then, hand rotate the engine and check there is no physical contact. I cannot believe that a car that is running so smoothly down the road suddenly has such excessive movement in the distributor shaft that it mechanically destructs its rotor. The effect on the points gap if such clearence existed would make the car run like crap to the extent most drivers would retutn home immediately. The effect of the high voltage spark jumping from rotor to the cap terminal is only going to increase the gap. Another suggestion if the failure occurs after having the cap off recently is that it has been incorrectly fitted causing mechanical interference. In the past I have flattened and increased the length of an old rotor by hammering it flatter. ( blacksmith technology )Lucas stuff in a reasonable state of maintenance is ultra reliable. It all comes down to the skill and experience of the maintainer! From healey.nut at gmail.com Mon Jul 21 00:40:34 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:40:34 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Rotor Buttons In-Reply-To: <1216622119.48842e27762f9@webmail.hotkey.net.au> References: <1216622119.48842e27762f9@webmail.hotkey.net.au> Message-ID: It's not a mechanical failure that causes these rotors to fail. The rivet is installed in a way that causes microscopic cracking in the rotor, then a few hundred miles later with heat and voltage the cracks propogate (it's all microscopic, you typically can't see it) and the rotor fails. Only buy rotors without brass rivets. On 7/21/08, sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au wrote: > As previously mentioned the mechanical/dynamic load on these items is so > little > that I have driven with my rotor held together with electrical insulation > tape. > Maybe the issue is one of being supplied the CORRECT ITEM ( THEY ALL LOOK > THE > SAME ) Can I suggest a trial fit before attempting to run the engine. By > using > some plastic bearing clearence strip attached to the end of the rotor then, > hand rotate the engine and check there is no physical contact. I cannot > believe > that a car that is running so smoothly down the road suddenly has such > excessive movement in the distributor shaft that it mechanically destructs > its > rotor. The effect on the points gap if such clearence existed would make the > car run like crap to the extent most drivers would retutn home immediately. > The > effect of the high voltage spark jumping from rotor to the cap terminal is > only > going to increase the gap. Another suggestion if the failure occurs after > having the cap off recently is that it has been incorrectly fitted causing > mechanical interference. > In the past I have flattened and increased the length of an old rotor by > hammering it flatter. ( blacksmith technology )Lucas stuff in a reasonable > state of maintenance is ultra reliable. It all comes down to the skill and > experience of the maintainer! > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 From sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au Mon Jul 21 00:52:41 2008 From: sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au (sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:52:41 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] High Speed Rotors Message-ID: <1216623161.488432392cf21@webmail.hotkey.net.au> BMC works A-series engines fitted to Formula Junior Coopers run by Ken Tyrrell (of formula 1 fame ) reved to 10000RPM with basic Lucas distributors. Works Sprites ran 24 hours at 7000RPM for the duration at LeMans with standard Lucas equipment. The big thing with looking for long life and guaranteed performance is to 'blue-print'. This involves checking each and every component to the manufacturers designed size and shape and then trial fit it into its assembly, dismantle and check clearences etc. Read Carroll Smith's books on race car preparation and it is clear there is no magic formula, just attention to detail. Who is C.Smith? He was pit crew chief at Indy,LeMans and with many major teams and winners. Also remember the Healey 100/6 endurance at Monthelthery ( or something ) carried out by one of the UK universities- Cambridge? It was flat out non-stop for a week. Joe From bighealey at charter.net Mon Jul 21 06:06:23 2008 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 05:06:23 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Hey Mike your in the news Message-ID: <002001c8eb2a$32333670$1002a8c0@TRACY> Hey Mike your in the news http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080712/targa_race_0807 12/20080720?s_name=Autos Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! President AHCUSA www.healey.org From davzu29 at cox.net Mon Jul 21 07:06:24 2008 From: davzu29 at cox.net (David Z) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:06:24 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Wheels & Tires...... decision made. References: <517040.1894.qm@web37904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <040901c8ea1e$ba8adbc0$6501a8c0@Soderling> Message-ID: <009701c8eb32$94724cb0$6701a8c0@ORGANIZA79207D> I have Michelin 175R15 ZX's on my BJ-8 and they rub on sharp turns. David Z ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Soderling" To: "Robert Blair" Cc: "Healey List" Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 12:11 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 Wheels & Tires...... decision made. > Robert, > I'm interested in knowing how 185/80R15 tires work out on your car. I was > thinking of getting that size when I bought new tires for my Healey four > years ago and was told that they were too big for the Healey and the front > tires would rub the wheel wells when turning sharply. > Please let me know how they work out. > Thanks. > John > 100-6 Erika the Red > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Blair" > To: "Healey List" > Cc: > Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 8:52 PM > Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Wheels & Tires...... decision made. > > >> Listers, >> >> Thanks for all the chit-chat on the question of which combo is best. >> >> Rightly or wrongly I made my decision in favor of Dayton 15x5 chrome >> wires, >> Vredestein 185x15 tires - not the 185/70x15. Thought you would be >> anxious >> to >> know :-) >> >> Here is how its looking in Yellow/Red ....notice the push button starter. >> >> Will report tire driving impressions in late August after Monterey. >> >> Robert N. Blair 65 Yellow BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com >> >> >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg which had a name >> of 100_6247.JPG] >> >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg which had a name >> of 100_6249.JPG] > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as davzu29 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From bighealey at charter.net Mon Jul 21 07:40:48 2008 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:40:48 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Hey Mike your in the news In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000101c8eb37$62bc10c0$1002a8c0@TRACY> http://tiny.cc/Eax3X Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! President AHCUSA www.healey.org -----Original Message----- From: G. Brierton [mailto:gbrierton at hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 6:28 AM To: Tracy Drummond Subject: Re: [Healeys] Hey Mike your in the news please give us a better link GB -------------------------------------------------- From: "Tracy Drummond" Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 8:06 AM To: "Healey List" Subject: [Healeys] Hey Mike your in the news > Hey Mike your in the news > > > > http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080712/targa_race_0807 > 12/20080720?s_name=Autos > > > > > > Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! > > President AHCUSA www.healey.org > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as gbrierton at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From bj867 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 21 08:01:07 2008 From: bj867 at yahoo.com (tammy neumann) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:01:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] RE- 62bt7 -black arcing dust on the distributor rotor Message-ID: <751119.98154.qm@web35903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Kurk, I had a similar problem with my BJ8. It was misfiring and had no power soon after a full electrical tune-up. I found a thin coating of black powder inside the distributor cap. I determined this was carbon powder that came from the carbon brush (top center of the distributor cap that makes contact with the rotor). I cleaned the inside of the distributor cap with electrical contact cleaner and a clean cloth. My car has been running fine ever since this one time experience. I suppose what had happened was that the carbon brush had a break in period initially before it fully seated and that produced the carbon dust. The cap was not a Lucas but a high quality replacement from one of the preferred Healey vendors. Mark Neumann BJ8 Message: 15 Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 06:50:49 -0400 From: "Kurt Leslie" Subject: [Healeys] 62bt7 To: Message-ID: <000401c8ea56$7cdc5280$e8c264d0 at userch6dgy3z1d> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Took my healey for a ride yesterday bt7, was a hot day but temp in car ok no traffic. On the way home the engine started skipping on acceleration and stopped completely within a few miles and I assumed fuel pump, but it was not it was electrical. Removed distributor cap and rotor had no real wear, less than 300 miles on cap, rotor,points and condenser, however there was a small amount of black arcing dust on the heal of the outer rotor contact, put spare rotor in and started and ran fine, I am still not sure what happened as the rotor looked ok to begin with any ideas? Perhaps the hot weather effected the condenser? Kurt From MBran89793 at aol.com Mon Jul 21 08:40:45 2008 From: MBran89793 at aol.com (MBran89793 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:40:45 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Start-up w/ Monday's Humpor Message-ID: A young man named Chuck moved to Texas and bought a donkey from a farmer for $100.00. The farmer agreed to deliver the donkey the next day. The next day he drove up and said, 'Sorry son, but I have some bad news, the donkey died.' Chuck replied, 'Well, then just give me my money back.' The farmer said, 'Can't do that. I went and spent it already.' Chuck said, 'Ok, then, just bring me the dead donkey.' The farmer asked, 'What ya gonna do with him? Chuck said, 'I'm going to raffle him off.' The farmer said, 'You can't raffle off a dead donkey!' Chuck said, 'Sure I can Watch me. I just won't tell anybody he's dead.' A month later, the farmer met up with Chuck and asked, 'What happened with that dead donkey?' Chuck said, 'I raffled him off. I sold 500 tickets at two dollars a piece and made a profit of $998.00.' The farmer said, 'Didn't anyone complain?' Chuck said, 'Just the guy who won. So I gave him his two dollars back.' Chuck grew up and works for the government. **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) From msalter at precisionsportscar.com Mon Jul 21 08:44:05 2008 From: msalter at precisionsportscar.com (Michael Salter) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:44:05 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Hey Mike your in the news In-Reply-To: <000101c8eb37$62bc10c0$1002a8c0@TRACY> References: <000101c8eb37$62bc10c0$1002a8c0@TRACY> Message-ID: <009001c8eb40$3a560790$af0216b0$@com> Thanks Tracy, I missed that one... -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tracy Drummond Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 9:41 AM To: Healey List Subject: Re: [Healeys] Hey Mike your in the news http://tiny.cc/Eax3X Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! President AHCUSA www.healey.org -----Original Message----- From: G. Brierton [mailto:gbrierton at hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 6:28 AM To: Tracy Drummond Subject: Re: [Healeys] Hey Mike your in the news please give us a better link GB -------------------------------------------------- From: "Tracy Drummond" Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 8:06 AM To: "Healey List" Subject: [Healeys] Hey Mike your in the news > Hey Mike your in the news > > > > http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080712/targa_race_0807 > 12/20080720?s_name=Autos > > > > > > Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! > > President AHCUSA www.healey.org > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as gbrierton at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as msalter at precisionsportscar.com http://www.team.net/archive From williamsantiks at hotmail.com Mon Jul 21 09:02:00 2008 From: williamsantiks at hotmail.com (William Berg) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:02:00 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Oops I have an extra set of Blue 100-4 sidecurtains for sale In-Reply-To: <001701c8e291$72d3d640$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> References: <000601c8e24f$73b53b90$2f01a8c0@deepthought42> <001701c8e291$72d3d640$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> Message-ID: Hey gang, I ordered a set of Blue sidecurtains from AH Spares and my father ordered me a set set back in January for my birthday They were on back order so he didn't tell me what he had bought me as it was a surprise. So now I have identical sets of Blue sidecurtains for the 100 I would like to sell a set for my cost of $550 please contact me if you are interested before I put them up on Ebay -William Berg _________________________________________________________________ Time for vacation? WIN what you need- enter now! http://www.gowindowslive.com/summergiveaway/?ocid=tag_jlyhm From kentmclean at comcast.net Mon Jul 21 09:34:51 2008 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (kentmclean at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:34:51 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Healey storage Message-ID: <072120081534.17901.4884AC9B000178B7000045ED2216525806020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net> RIchard wrote: > I realize it is rather early to be talking about winter storage but my trip to > the states ends in a 10 days and I found a nice garage to store my Healey next > to a beautiful XK 120.My question is whether I should put it up on jack stands > for 11 months or not. The tires are new, everything else about the car is 52 > years old. Storage is bad for a car. Why don't you leave the keys with me and I'll, ah, hmmm, exercise the car every few weeks until you return? If that doesn't work for you, then raising it on jack stands wouldn't hurt. Usually driving the car a bit will work the flat spots out, but if they car sits too long, who knows. Better to jack it up and be sure. The down side to using jack stands to keep the tires off the ground is the stress to the suspension bits of being at full extension for so long. I think it's danged-if-you-do, danged-if-you-don't. -- Kent McLean '59 100 BN2 From gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com Mon Jul 21 09:46:03 2008 From: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com (Richard Collins) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:46:03 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Healey storage In-Reply-To: <072120081534.17901.4884AC9B000178B7000045ED2216525806020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net> References: <072120081534.17901.4884AC9B000178B7000045ED2216525806020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net> Message-ID: I found storing the car on the ground but on carpet squares under the tires really helps... Richard of KY 60 BN7 440> From: kentmclean at comcast.net> To: healeys at autox.team.net> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:34:51 +0000> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey storage> > RIchard wrote:> > I realize it is rather early to be talking about winter storage but my trip to > > the states ends in a 10 days and I found a nice garage to store my Healey next > > to a beautiful XK 120.My question is whether I should put it up on jack stands > > for 11 months or not. The tires are new, everything else about the car is 52 > > years old.> > Storage is bad for a car. Why don't you leave the keys with me and I'll,> ah, hmmm, exercise the car every few weeks until you return?> > If that doesn't work for you, then raising it on jack stands wouldn't hurt.> Usually driving the car a bit will work the flat spots out, but if they car> sits too long, who knows. Better to jack it up and be sure. > > The down side to using jack stands to keep the tires off the ground is> the stress to the suspension bits of being at full extension for so long. > > I think it's danged-if-you-do, danged-if-you-don't. > > --> Kent McLean> '59 100 BN2> _______________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > Healeys at autox.team.net> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys> > You are subscribed as gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com> > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch when you're away with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenge r2_072008 From davzu29 at cox.net Mon Jul 21 09:51:27 2008 From: davzu29 at cox.net (David Z) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:51:27 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Healey storage References: <072120081534.17901.4884AC9B000178B7000045ED2216525806020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net> Message-ID: <000501c8eb49$a2e6bdf0$6701a8c0@ORGANIZA79207D> Ok, I'll bite. What do placing carpet squares under the tires have to do with anything? David Z. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Collins" To: ; Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey storage >I found storing the car on the ground but on carpet squares under the tires > really helps... > Richard of KY > 60 BN7 440> From: kentmclean at comcast.net> To: healeys at autox.team.net> > Date: > Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:34:51 +0000> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey storage> > > RIchard wrote:> > I realize it is rather early to be talking about winter > storage but my trip to > > the states ends in a 10 days and I found a nice > garage to store my Healey next > > to a beautiful XK 120.My question is > whether I should put it up on jack stands > > for 11 months or not. The > tires > are new, everything else about the car is 52 > > years old.> > Storage is > bad > for a car. Why don't you leave the keys with me and I'll,> ah, hmmm, > exercise > the car every few weeks until you return?> > If that doesn't work for you, > then raising it on jack stands wouldn't hurt.> Usually driving the car a > bit > will work the flat spots out, but if they car> sits too long, who knows. > Better to jack it up and be sure. > > The down side to using jack stands > to > keep the tires off the ground is> the stress to the suspension bits of > being > at full extension for so long. > > I think it's danged-if-you-do, > danged-if-you-don't. > > --> Kent McLean> '59 100 BN2> > _______________________________________________> Support Team.Net > http://www.team.net/donate.html> > Healeys at autox.team.net> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys> > You are subscribed as > gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com> > http://www.team.net/archive > _________________________________________________________________ > Stay in touch when you're away with Windows Live Messenger. > http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenge > r2_072008 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as davzu29 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com Mon Jul 21 10:02:59 2008 From: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com (Richard Collins) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:02:59 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Healey storage In-Reply-To: <000501c8eb49$a2e6bdf0$6701a8c0@ORGANIZA79207D> References: <072120081534.17901.4884AC9B000178B7000045ED2216525806020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net> <000501c8eb49$a2e6bdf0$6701a8c0@ORGANIZA79207D> Message-ID: Oops...too long a response and stopped by the web meister; trying again From: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.comTo: davzu29 at cox.net; kentmclean at comcast.net; healeys at autox.team.netSubject: RE: [Healeys] Healey storageDate: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:57:34 -0700 Keeps the tires off the concrete garage floor while keeping temperature swings down and offers a bit of a padding to the tires as well. Thought it was an old wives tale as well but I run soft compound tires on my other car and it definitely seemed to work vs without the squares...Wonder if Snopes agrees RVC> From: davzu29 at cox.net> To: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com; kentmclean at comcast.net; healeys at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey storage> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:51:27 -0400> > Ok, I'll bite. What do placing carpet squares under the tires have to do > with anything?> > David Z. _________________________________________________________________ Keep your kids safer online with Windows Live Family Safety. http://www.windowslive.com/family_safety/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_fami ly_safety_072008 From wsteinman at pogolaw.com Mon Jul 21 12:10:29 2008 From: wsteinman at pogolaw.com (Steinman, Bill) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:10:29 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Wheel swap? Message-ID: <82A974D0BA5A5E4C85412B56F8C0D4B21E3956@US-EXCH-VS02.US.PGFM.NET> Howdy all: I'm thinking about new wire wheels for my BT7. The car came with very nice and fairly new 60-spoke chrome wheels when I bought it, but I've never been partial to chrome wheels -- I much prefer painted. Anyone got a nice set of painted 60-spoke wheels who might be interested in a trade? Happy Healeying, B. Bill S. 2005 Lotus Elise 1968 Triumph TR-250 1968 MGC Tourer 1965 Sunbeam Tiger 1959 Austin Healey 3000 1971 Triumph TR-6 (girlfriend's car) Tedious but unavoidable disclaimer follows... NOTICE: This communication and its attachments have been sent to you from Powell Goldstein LLP and may contain privileged or other confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, or believe that you have received this communication in error, please do not print, copy, retransmit, disseminate, or otherwise use the information. If you are not the intended recipient appearing in the address lines of this communication, you should not rely upon it. Also, please indicate to the sender that you have received this communication in error, and delete the copy you received. IRS CIRCULAR 230 Disclosure: Under U.S. Treasury regulations, we are required to inform you that any tax advice contained in this e-mail or any attachment hereto is not intended to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid penalties imposed under the Internal Revenue Code. Thank you. From healey3000bn7 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 21 13:45:11 2008 From: healey3000bn7 at yahoo.com (Carlos Cruz) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:45:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Healey storage In-Reply-To: <000501c8eb49$a2e6bdf0$6701a8c0@ORGANIZA79207D> Message-ID: <834574.69964.qm@web50003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Better yet, glue carpet strips to the treads on your tires. This way you don't have to worry about lining up the tires and squares when you park. And you'll always have the "carpet protection" where ever you go. The best part is... if the ride gets to be too bumpy - you can use a deep pile shag and extra padding which can be found in many colors to compliment your car. :-) David Z wrote: Ok, I'll bite. What do placing carpet squares under the tires have to do with anything? David Z. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Collins" To: ; Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey storage >I found storing the car on the ground but on carpet squares under the tires > really helps... > Richard of KY From amalin at mac.com Mon Jul 21 17:28:59 2008 From: amalin at mac.com (Al Malin) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:28:59 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Wheel swap? In-Reply-To: <82A974D0BA5A5E4C85412B56F8C0D4B21E3956@US-EXCH-VS02.US.PGFM.NET> References: <82A974D0BA5A5E4C85412B56F8C0D4B21E3956@US-EXCH-VS02.US.PGFM.NET> Message-ID: <2C02BBC3-2BA3-4F4D-9E65-CB46FEA52116@mac.com> Hi Bill, I have a set of 5 72-spoke painted that I took off my BT7 MK II last summer. I replaced them with chromes. Spokes and splines are in great shape. I've been thinking of selling them. Al Malin Tricarb On Jul 21, 2008, at 2:10 PM, Steinman, Bill wrote: > Howdy all: > > I'm thinking about new wire wheels for my BT7. The car came with very > nice and fairly new 60-spoke chrome wheels when I bought it, but I've > never been partial to chrome wheels -- I much prefer painted. Anyone > got a nice set of painted 60-spoke wheels who might be interested in a > trade? > > Happy Healeying, > > B. > > Bill S. > 2005 Lotus Elise > 1968 Triumph TR-250 > 1968 MGC Tourer > 1965 Sunbeam Tiger > 1959 Austin Healey 3000 > 1971 Triumph TR-6 (girlfriend's car) > > Tedious but unavoidable disclaimer follows... > > > > NOTICE: This communication and its attachments have been sent to you > from > Powell Goldstein LLP > and may contain privileged or other confidential information. If > you are not > the intended > recipient, or believe that you have received this communication in > error, > please do not print, > copy, retransmit, disseminate, or otherwise use the information. If > you are > not the intended > recipient appearing in the address lines of this communication, you > should not > rely upon it. > Also, please indicate to the sender that you have received this > communication > in error, and > delete the copy you received. > > IRS CIRCULAR 230 Disclosure: Under U.S. Treasury regulations, we are > required > to inform you that > any tax advice contained in this e-mail or any attachment hereto is > not > intended to be used, and > cannot be used, to avoid penalties imposed under the Internal > Revenue Code. > > Thank you. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as amalin at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From rnbmail at yahoo.com Mon Jul 21 19:54:11 2008 From: rnbmail at yahoo.com (Robert Blair) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:54:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Wheels & Tires...... decision made. In-Reply-To: <009701c8eb32$94724cb0$6701a8c0@ORGANIZA79207D> Message-ID: <411500.66467.qm@web37902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> David, Interesting - surprising. I now have to wait and see what happens with my 185x15s. I may have to avoid hand brake turns .......... Robert N. Blair 65 Yellow BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com --- On Mon, 7/21/08, David Z wrote: > From: David Z > Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 Wheels & Tires...... decision made. > To: "John Soderling" , "Robert Blair" > Cc: "Healey List" > Date: Monday, July 21, 2008, 6:06 AM > I have Michelin 175R15 ZX's on my BJ-8 and they rub on > sharp turns. > > David Z > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Soderling" > > To: "Robert Blair" > Cc: "Healey List" > Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 12:11 AM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 Wheels & Tires...... > decision made. > > > > Robert, > > I'm interested in knowing how 185/80R15 tires work > out on your car. I was > > thinking of getting that size when I bought new tires > for my Healey four > > years ago and was told that they were too big for the > Healey and the front > > tires would rub the wheel wells when turning sharply. > > Please let me know how they work out. > > Thanks. > > John > > 100-6 Erika the Red > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Robert Blair" > > > To: "Healey List" > > > Cc: > > Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 8:52 PM > > Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Wheels & Tires...... > decision made. > > > > > >> Listers, > >> > >> Thanks for all the chit-chat on the question of > which combo is best. > >> > >> Rightly or wrongly I made my decision in favor of > Dayton 15x5 chrome > >> wires, > >> Vredestein 185x15 tires - not the 185/70x15. > Thought you would be > >> anxious > >> to > >> know :-) > >> > >> Here is how its looking in Yellow/Red ....notice > the push button starter. > >> > >> Will report tire driving impressions in late > August after Monterey. > >> > >> Robert N. Blair 65 Yellow BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com > >> > >> > >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type > image/pjpeg which had a name > >> of 100_6247.JPG] > >> > >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type > image/pjpeg which had a name > >> of 100_6249.JPG] > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > You are subscribed as davzu29 at cox.net > > > > http://www.team.net/archive From comkanuk at cgocable.ca Mon Jul 21 20:44:15 2008 From: comkanuk at cgocable.ca (gilbert gauthier) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:44:15 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Why Don't depress the clutch ? Message-ID: <704E0102-0483-4E94-9B53-EF7C7235EE2D@cgocable.ca> Hi Rich, This afternoon i was talking with one of the old timer member fom our healey club concerning the procedure that i use when starting my healey. i was saying to him that I don't touch the clutch and put the car in neutral to start it. He allready told me that it was the no good way because it make the starter to work harder. I told him that i saw somewhere in the Healey list that the way to go with healey was not touching the clutch. With my VW 08 in cold condition i depress the clutch for sure and i had always did with all my manual cars. Then i looked at the mail archive i found something that you wrote in april 2006 in respond to someone concerning problem in cold start. If it not too much to ask why is it different with healey clutch and regular manual car. Thank gilbert BT7 (61 (((( (((((::::Hard to start when cold::::: Gentlemen, Both of you (Dick and David) noted that you put the clutch all the way in while cranking. Don't do that. Make sure the gear lever is in neutral and crank the engine without touching the clutch. Depressing the clutch only puts more load on the crankshaft thrust washers and slows the cranking speed. Rich Chrysler From f.ronald.rader at gmail.com Mon Jul 21 23:08:25 2008 From: f.ronald.rader at gmail.com (F. Ronald Rader) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:08:25 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] time to paint Message-ID: <5caeedb50807212208q3d797448j4139bcbe91fa1a86@mail.gmail.com> Hello Listers. I am going to paint my 1965 BJ8. I bought it about 8 years ago after what had been purported to be a full restoration. Pictures included. It may have been but I doubt it. Older and wiser. Over the past 8 years I have had the car worked on first by Absolutely British when Eric was in So Cal and later by Frank McClain, in Encino. Both great shops. Most parts have been replaced and it is now a very nice car with over 10,000 miles of run in. It is time to repaint the body in the same beautiful BRG. I am looking for a recommendation in So Cal from happy customers. I saw an ad in SCM by Charles Tanner. I know he is related to Kurt Tanner but I do not know if he is the guy that was doing all of the great paint jobs or whether that was Kurt's dad. Any one know? Has any one had the Tanners paint your car? Feed back appreciated. Ron Rader 1965 BJ8 Los Angeles CA From Paul.Negus at ipl.com Tue Jul 22 06:10:41 2008 From: Paul.Negus at ipl.com (Paul Negus) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:10:41 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey coasters Message-ID: <72481CA3A5A6474EA49CFD2CF28A5D5D03C23DDF@hektor.iplbath.com> Hi My wife very kindly bought me a set of these marble coasters when in Windsor (England) last week: http://www.essentiallysoap.co.uk/shop_product.php?id=1066&cat=327 They look fantastic on the coffee table! 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From caws52803 at aol.com Tue Jul 22 07:14:44 2008 From: caws52803 at aol.com (caws52803 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:14:44 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey coasters In-Reply-To: <72481CA3A5A6474EA49CFD2CF28A5D5D03C23DDF@hektor.iplbath.com> References: <72481CA3A5A6474EA49CFD2CF28A5D5D03C23DDF@hektor.iplbath.com> Message-ID: <8CABA1409C58493-17B8-A32@WEBMAIL-DC04.sysops.aol.com> Tempting, but $45 without shipping?? ?Rudy Streng AN5 BN4 Lenoir, NC -----Original Message----- From: Paul Negus To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 8:10 am Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey coasters Hi My wife very kindly bought me a set of these marble coasters when in Windsor (England) last week: http://www.essentiallysoap.co.uk/shop_product.php?id=1066&cat=327 They look fantastic on the coffee table! 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Registration took place at Cardiff on 10 May 1979. IPL Information Processing Limited's registered office and normal place of business is Eveleigh House, Grove Street, Bath, BA1 5LR, United Kingdom. IPL is also registered for Value Added Tax (VAT) under registration number GB 601 2931 83. Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as caws52803 at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive From 57healey at gmail.com Tue Jul 22 07:46:10 2008 From: 57healey at gmail.com (Patton Dickson) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:46:10 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey coasters In-Reply-To: <8CABA1409C58493-17B8-A32@WEBMAIL-DC04.sysops.aol.com> References: <72481CA3A5A6474EA49CFD2CF28A5D5D03C23DDF@hektor.iplbath.com> <8CABA1409C58493-17B8-A32@WEBMAIL-DC04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <743b1e2f0807220646v6b8c3878p5bed19d2d5384122@mail.gmail.com> My wife can make them, but I don't know what she would charge. Here is the picture of the one I have on my desk at the office. http://tinyurl.com/5tyujm Patton On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 8:14 AM, wrote: > Tempting, but $45 without shipping?? > ?Rudy Streng > AN5 BN4 > Lenoir, NC > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Negus > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 8:10 am > Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey coasters > > > > Hi > > My wife very kindly bought me a set of these marble coasters when in > Windsor (England) last week: > > > http://www.essentiallysoap.co.uk/shop_product.php?id=1066&cat=327 > > They look fantastic on the coffee table! > > Regards > > Paul > > Longbridge BN4 -- Patton Dickson - http://Austin-Healeys.com - Plano, TX 1957 Austin-Healey 100-Six "Built to run 'til the road wears out." From caws52803 at aol.com Tue Jul 22 08:00:00 2008 From: caws52803 at aol.com (caws52803 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:00:00 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey coasters In-Reply-To: <72481CA3A5A6474EA49CFD2CF28A5D5D03C23DDF@hektor.iplbath.com> References: <72481CA3A5A6474EA49CFD2CF28A5D5D03C23DDF@hektor.iplbath.com> Message-ID: <8CABA1A5DA25F18-17B8-DCF@WEBMAIL-DC04.sysops.aol.com> Does anyone know where I can get some coasters made?? A long time ago I purchased 6 leather 3" coasters with the AHCA design burnt in and would love to have them done for?my local club.? Anyone remember or have a source? Thanks, Rudy in NC? -----Original Message----- From: Paul Negus To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 8:10 am Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey coasters Hi My wife very kindly bought me a set of these marble coasters when in Windsor (England) last week: http://www.essentiallysoap.co.uk/shop_product.php?id=1066&cat=327 They look fantastic on the coffee table! 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Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as caws52803 at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net Tue Jul 22 08:03:17 2008 From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:03:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] Update - SAN FRANCISCO BAY AREA BRITISH CAR MEET - Sept. 6 & 7, 2008 Message-ID: <9015824.1216735397572.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> THE BRITISH CAR MEET * 2008 Sierra Point Marina * Brisbane, CA Saturday & Sunday * September 6th & 7th Dear NorCal British Car Enthusiast, The Sierra Point British Car Meet in Brisbane is coming along great - This year, the food and drink will be handled by the Brisbane Lions Club, that will have their grill trailer with burgers, dogs, and (hopefully) bangers all day plus cold drinks, but get this!!! The Sierra Point Yacht Club will open their doors early on Sunday for a reasonable, sit-down, prix fix breakfast, AND, they also have a full bar that will be open all day as well ...... Due to a number of reasons, the Saturday swap meet has been canceled for this year, but it will seriously be reconsidered for next year. If you belong to a club, make sure the general membership knows about this Sierra Point meet - meet old friends in a new location - carrying on the tradition. Cheers, Rick Feibusch Meet Coordinator - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - THE BRITISH CAR MEET * 2008 Sierra Point Marina * Brisbane, CA Saturday & Sunday * September 6th & 7th Join us for one of the most historic British automotive events in California at our new dockside venue at the Sierra Point Marina. Over 400 quirky, classic, and thoroughly lovable British cars are once again expected to grace the lawn and adjacent parking area in Brisbane, California. This is essentially the old Palo Alto meet in its new location. We are also expecting another great display of automotive oddities provided by the Arcane Auto Society. Spectators attend and park for free. SUNDAY SHOW - SEPTEMBER 7th Join your British car friends for a smashing day at the Marina. Don't have a show car? Don't worry! Daily drivers, vintage racers, street rods and works-in-progress are as welcome as Concours quality show cars. British food, jazz, & more fun than you'll be able to tolerate! Awards in many classes. There will be no preregistration - all entrants will receive a commemorative gift. Cars will be placed at 9:00AM and the fun goes on all day. The registration fee is still $25 per car at the gate. SATURDAY TOUR - SEPTEMBER 6th The British Car Meet TOUR TO THE SEA starts at the Sierra Point Marina boathouse (the same place as the Sunday Car Show) and winds through the hills to the sea. Itbs no-cost option for people who like to drive their cars as well as show them. We will be sending cars off between 9:00AM and 10:30AM. A map will be provided. The tour ends at Cameron's Pub in Half Moon Bay where we will be kicking tyres and telling tall tales in the car park well into the afternoon. DIRECTIONS: The Brisbane Marina is lacated just east of the Bayshore Freeway (101) between San Francisco and the SF Airport/Highway 380. Just take the Sierra Point Exit and follow the signs to the Marina. Trailer parking will be available on-site. Call for information: 310-392-6605 e-mail: Sierra Point Marina Britmeet From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net Tue Jul 22 08:02:53 2008 From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:02:53 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] Update - SAN FRANCISCO BAY AREA BRITISH CAR MEET - Sept. 6 & 7, 2008 Message-ID: <14843249.1216735373424.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> THE BRITISH CAR MEET * 2008 Sierra Point Marina * Brisbane, CA Saturday & Sunday * September 6th & 7th Dear NorCal British Car Enthusiast, The Sierra Point British Car Meet in Brisbane is coming along great - This year, the food and drink will be handled by the Brisbane Lions Club, that will have their grill trailer with burgers, dogs, and (hopefully) bangers all day plus cold drinks, but get this!!! The Sierra Point Yacht Club will open their doors early on Sunday for a reasonable, sit-down, prix fix breakfast, AND, they also have a full bar that will be open all day as well ...... Due to a number of reasons, the Saturday swap meet has been canceled for this year, but it will seriously be reconsidered for next year. If you belong to a club, make sure the general membership knows about this Sierra Point meet - meet old friends in a new location - carrying on the tradition. Cheers, Rick Feibusch Meet Coordinator - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - THE BRITISH CAR MEET * 2008 Sierra Point Marina * Brisbane, CA Saturday & Sunday * September 6th & 7th Join us for one of the most historic British automotive events in California at our new dockside venue at the Sierra Point Marina. Over 400 quirky, classic, and thoroughly lovable British cars are once again expected to grace the lawn and adjacent parking area in Brisbane, California. This is essentially the old Palo Alto meet in its new location. We are also expecting another great display of automotive oddities provided by the Arcane Auto Society. Spectators attend and park for free. SUNDAY SHOW - SEPTEMBER 7th Join your British car friends for a smashing day at the Marina. Don't have a show car? Don't worry! Daily drivers, vintage racers, street rods and works-in-progress are as welcome as Concours quality show cars. British food, jazz, & more fun than you'll be able to tolerate! Awards in many classes. There will be no preregistration - all entrants will receive a commemorative gift. Cars will be placed at 9:00AM and the fun goes on all day. The registration fee is still $25 per car at the gate. SATURDAY TOUR - SEPTEMBER 6th The British Car Meet TOUR TO THE SEA starts at the Sierra Point Marina boathouse (the same place as the Sunday Car Show) and winds through the hills to the sea. Itbs no-cost option for people who like to drive their cars as well as show them. We will be sending cars off between 9:00AM and 10:30AM. A map will be provided. The tour ends at Cameron's Pub in Half Moon Bay where we will be kicking tyres and telling tall tales in the car park well into the afternoon. DIRECTIONS: The Brisbane Marina is lacated just east of the Bayshore Freeway (101) between San Francisco and the SF Airport/Highway 380. Just take the Sierra Point Exit and follow the signs to the Marina. Trailer parking will be available on-site. Call for information: 310-392-6605 e-mail: Sierra Point Marina Britmeet From philritten at aol.com Tue Jul 22 09:03:18 2008 From: philritten at aol.com (Philip Rittenhouse) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:03:18 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive Question In-Reply-To: <8CABA1A5DA25F18-17B8-DCF@WEBMAIL-DC04.sysops.aol.com> References: <72481CA3A5A6474EA49CFD2CF28A5D5D03C23DDF@hektor.iplbath.com> <8CABA1A5DA25F18-17B8-DCF@WEBMAIL-DC04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <6E013083-8B99-43F4-81A6-44B2F2AEADFA@aol.com> You have all mentioned not to back up while in overdrive. What if you accidently flip the overdrive switch while idling in your garage? Thanks Sent from my iPhone On Jul 22, 2008, at 7:00 AM, caws52803 at aol.com wrote: > Does anyone know where I can get some coasters made?? A long time > ago I purchased 6 leather 3" coasters with the AHCA design burnt in > and would love to have them done for?my local club.? Anyone remember > or have a source? > Thanks, > Rudy in NC? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Negus > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 8:10 am > Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey coasters > > > > Hi > > My wife very kindly bought me a set of these marble coasters when in > Windsor (England) last week: > > > http://www.essentiallysoap.co.uk/shop_product.php?id=1066&cat=327 > > They look fantastic on the coffee table! > > Regards > > Paul > > Longbridge BN4 > > > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the > addressee, any disclosure, reproduction, copying, > distribution, or other dissemination or use of this > communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received > this transmission in error please notify the sender > immediately and then delete this email. > > Any representations or commitments expressed in this email > are subject to contract. > > This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous > content. However, it is essential that the recipient also > checks this message using commercially available mail > scanning and anti-virus software. IPL Information Processing > Limited accepts no liability for any loss or damage resulting > from any virus or other dangerous content in this message. > > IPL Information Processing Limited is registered in England > and Wales under company registration number 1418818. > Registration took place at Cardiff on 10 May 1979. IPL > Information Processing Limited's registered office and > normal place of business is Eveleigh House, Grove Street, > Bath, BA1 5LR, United Kingdom. IPL is also registered for > Value Added Tax (VAT) under registration number GB 601 2931 83. > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as caws52803 at aol.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as philritten at aol.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From msalter at precisionsportscar.com Tue Jul 22 09:39:24 2008 From: msalter at precisionsportscar.com (Michael Salter) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:39:24 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive Question In-Reply-To: <6E013083-8B99-43F4-81A6-44B2F2AEADFA@aol.com> References: <72481CA3A5A6474EA49CFD2CF28A5D5D03C23DDF@hektor.iplbath.com> <8CABA1A5DA25F18-17B8-DCF@WEBMAIL-DC04.sysops.aol.com> <6E013083-8B99-43F4-81A6-44B2F2AEADFA@aol.com> Message-ID: <00a201c8ec11$1f130b00$5d392100$@com> Hi Philip, Not a problem because the OD should only operate in 3rd or 4th gear as a result of the inhibitor switch on the gearbox. -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Philip Rittenhouse Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 11:03 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive Question You have all mentioned not to back up while in overdrive. What if you accidently flip the overdrive switch while idling in your garage? Thanks From rwil at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 22 09:59:39 2008 From: rwil at sbcglobal.net (Roland Wilhelmy) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:59:39 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] oh wow! bring on that perfect 100S Message-ID: <5q0c84p9ahds4dlufjglkbl61gr3fusnlc@4ax.com> I just received the message quoted below. I am sure that I will be receiving the 1,000,000 UKP very soon and can begin to amass the collection of Healeys that I always wanted. Too bad that the rest of you didn't receive this ;-0 -Roland ::To: ::Subject: Congratulations July 22 Winner ::From: Claims Office ::Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 7:03:58 -0400 :: ::Your ID won 1,000,000.00 GBP from the Lottery draw, contact Dr Pinkett: pgriffin001 at btinternet.com with details below ::Name ::Address ::Phone ::Occupation :: ::Manager, ::Rose Wood From shop at justbrits.com Tue Jul 22 11:06:00 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:06:00 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey coasters References: <72481CA3A5A6474EA49CFD2CF28A5D5D03C23DDF@hektor.iplbath.com> <8CABA1A5DA25F18-17B8-DCF@WEBMAIL-DC04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <013901c8ec1d$37c25af0$6501a8c0@shop> <> Rudi, I remember them!! IIRC, Midwest had a lady that did them and the lazer cut plaques for variuos National Awards (I have 2)!! Try Edie?? Ed From frogeye at porterscustom.com Tue Jul 22 10:21:27 2008 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (Dave Porter) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:21:27 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive Question In-Reply-To: <00a201c8ec11$1f130b00$5d392100$@com> Message-ID: <20080722162112.E0CC51878D8@autox.team.net> The vehicle must be in motion before any damage could be done.... frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 Porter Custom Bicycles www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+frogeye=porterscustom.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+frogeye=porterscustom.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Salter Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:39 AM To: 'Philip Rittenhouse'; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Question Hi Philip, Not a problem because the OD should only operate in 3rd or 4th gear as a result of the inhibitor switch on the gearbox. -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Philip Rittenhouse Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 11:03 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive Question You have all mentioned not to back up while in overdrive. What if you accidently flip the overdrive switch while idling in your garage? Thanks Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as frogeye at porterscustom.com http://www.team.net/archive From f.ronald.rader at gmail.com Tue Jul 22 10:21:53 2008 From: f.ronald.rader at gmail.com (F. Ronald Rader) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:21:53 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] time to paint In-Reply-To: References: <5caeedb50807212208q3d797448j4139bcbe91fa1a86@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5caeedb50807220921k6a615136q83de7433132c8125@mail.gmail.com> bingo! just what I needed to know. Charles is coming to see my car this week. tnx ron On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 8:15 AM, hcdodson wrote: > > Ron, > > Steve Tanner, Kurt's father does the metal work on the cars and Kurt's brother Charles does the finish sanding and prep work getting the cars ready for paint. Uptown Auto Craft in Upland does the finish paint job. > > I had Steve do the metal repair on my BN7 and Uptown did the paint. > > Hank Dodson > 1962 BN7 From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Tue Jul 22 10:59:12 2008 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Leonard Hartnett) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:59:12 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] oh wow! bring on that perfect 100S In-Reply-To: <5q0c84p9ahds4dlufjglkbl61gr3fusnlc@4ax.com> References: <5q0c84p9ahds4dlufjglkbl61gr3fusnlc@4ax.com> Message-ID: Roland: Only $1,000,000? Pocket change. I'm waiting for the $16,000,000 from the nice widow in Nigeria to be wire transferred to my account. ;-). Oh! Wait. I 'accidently' did a permanent delete on that one. Clumsy me! (The Other) Len Vacaville, California, USA 1967 3000 MKIII, HBJ8L39031 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roland Wilhelmy" To: "'Austin Healey list'" Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:59 AM Subject: [Healeys] oh wow! bring on that perfect 100S >I just received the message quoted below. I am sure that I will be > receiving the 1,000,000 UKP very soon and can begin to amass the > collection of Healeys that I always wanted. Too bad that the rest of > you didn't receive this ;-0 > > -Roland > > ::To: > ::Subject: Congratulations July 22 Winner > ::From: Claims Office > ::Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 7:03:58 -0400 > :: > ::Your ID won 1,000,000.00 GBP from the Lottery draw, contact Dr Pinkett: > pgriffin001 at btinternet.com with details below > ::Name > ::Address > ::Phone > ::Occupation > :: > ::Manager, > ::Rose Wood > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as thehartnetts at earthlink.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From 57healey at gmail.com Tue Jul 22 11:19:14 2008 From: 57healey at gmail.com (Patton Dickson) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:19:14 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] oh wow! bring on that perfect 100S In-Reply-To: References: <5q0c84p9ahds4dlufjglkbl61gr3fusnlc@4ax.com> Message-ID: <743b1e2f0807221019h6701c694pd0acab61c3aa1d62@mail.gmail.com> Fo a very small commission I will gladly forward many such opportunities. Patton On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Leonard Hartnett wrote: > Roland: Only $1,000,000? Pocket change. I'm waiting for the $16,000,000 > from the nice widow in Nigeria to be wire transferred to my account. ;-). > > Oh! Wait. I 'accidently' did a permanent delete on that one. Clumsy me! > > (The Other) Len > Vacaville, California, USA > 1967 3000 MKIII, HBJ8L39031 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roland Wilhelmy" > To: "'Austin Healey list'" > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:59 AM > Subject: [Healeys] oh wow! bring on that perfect 100S > > >>I just received the message quoted below. I am sure that I will be >> receiving the 1,000,000 UKP very soon and can begin to amass the >> collection of Healeys that I always wanted. Too bad that the rest of >> you didn't receive this ;-0 >> >> -Roland >> >> ::To: >> ::Subject: Congratulations July 22 Winner >> ::From: Claims Office >> ::Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 7:03:58 -0400 >> :: >> ::Your ID won 1,000,000.00 GBP from the Lottery draw, contact Dr Pinkett: >> pgriffin001 at btinternet.com with details below >> ::Name >> ::Address >> ::Phone >> ::Occupation >> :: >> ::Manager, >> ::Rose Wood >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as thehartnetts at earthlink.net >> >> http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as 57healey at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Patton Dickson - http://Austin-Healeys.com - Plano, TX 1957 Austin-Healey 100-Six "Built to run 'til the road wears out." From philritten at aol.com Tue Jul 22 12:38:02 2008 From: philritten at aol.com (philritten at aol.com) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:38:02 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive Question In-Reply-To: <200807221221.58a4886090c251@rly-df11.mx.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CABA4134C2A40F-B30-D9A@webmail-nh15.sysops.aol.com> Thanks guys, you had me worried with all of that talk of disaster. Phil -----Original Message----- From: Dave Porter To: 'Michael Salter' ; 'Philip Rittenhouse' ; healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 9:21 am Subject: RE: [Healeys] Overdrive Question The vehicle must be in motion before any damage could be done.... frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 Porter Custom Bicycles www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+frogeye=porterscustom.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+frogeye=porterscustom.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Salter Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:39 AM To: 'Philip Rittenhouse'; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Question Hi Philip, Not a problem because the OD should only operate in 3rd or 4th gear as a result of the inhibitor switch on the gearbox. -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Philip Rittenhouse Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 11:03 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive Question You have all mentioned not to back up while in overdrive. What if you accidently flip the overdrive switch while idling in your garage? Thanks Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as frogeye at porterscustom.com http://www.team.net/archive From Editorgary at aol.com Tue Jul 22 13:14:42 2008 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:14:42 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Overdrives Message-ID: >From philritten You have all mentioned not to back up while in overdrive. What if you accidently flip the overdrive switch while idling in your garage? As everyone has noted, with the system operating properly, there is a switch near the base of the gearshift on the transmission that breaks the overdrive circuit when the gear shift lever is moved oer into the first/second slot, effectively preventing the overdrive from operating in either of those two gears or reverse (which is, of course, beyond the 1/2 slot). HOWEVER, Should the overdrive be engaged with the vehicle moving forward, it is possible to get the car into reverse and start the car moving in reverse before the overdrive gears have had a chance to disengage. Then, if you immediately start to move forward again at high speed, you can cause the overdrive gears to break with a very loud boom. If this set of circumstances seems unusual in the extreme, ask me how I know for sure that it can occur. Moral of the story: Try to remember to shift the car out of overdrive when slowing down, such as when you're coming off the highway by mistake on an exit that goes directly into a parking lot. Then try to remember not to rush your shifts into and out of reverse when you try to get back out of the parking lot and on to the highway to catch up to the rest of your group. (the good news out of this story was that I was able to replace my grenaded 1960 overdrive with a 1957 overdrive which gives me a better cruising speed on the highway.) Cheers Gary ************** Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) From ronfineesq at earthlink.net Tue Jul 22 15:39:25 2008 From: ronfineesq at earthlink.net (Ronald A. Fine) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:39:25 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Healeys] Overdrives Message-ID: <33189170.1216762765711.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Is there any way to determine if the overdrive has disengaged? My situation is that when I broke a fan blade on the way to Conclave I was traveling about 75 mph with overdrive engaged. I immediately shut down the engine, put it in neutral to coast to the side of the freeway and then flipped the overdrive dash switch off. Is there any way I can check to see if the overdrive has actually disengaged?? I haven't driven the car since but I have repaired the damage and I am ready to back it out of my garage. Ron Fine 61BN7 From richchrysler at quickclic.net Tue Jul 22 16:00:02 2008 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:00:02 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Overdrives References: <33189170.1216762765711.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <08db01c8ec46$4b22d920$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> Ron, If it's engaged, you should hear the solenoid snap on when you turn the ignition switch on, and click off the you turn the ignition switch off. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronald A. Fine" To: ; Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrives > Is there any way to determine if the overdrive has disengaged? My > situation is that when I broke a fan blade on the way to Conclave I was > traveling about 75 mph with overdrive engaged. I immediately shut down > the engine, put it in neutral to coast to the side of the freeway and then > flipped the overdrive dash switch off. Is there any way I can check to > see if the overdrive has actually disengaged?? I haven't driven the car > since but I have repaired the damage and I am ready to back it out of my > garage. > > Ron Fine > 61BN7 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richchrysler at quickclic.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From philritten at aol.com Tue Jul 22 16:22:36 2008 From: philritten at aol.com (philritten at aol.com) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:22:36 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Wheel Cylinders Message-ID: <8CABA6093C88EEF-B30-17FF@webmail-nh15.sysops.aol.com> I'm replacing the wheel cylinders on my '58 BN4 if anyone would like them for the cost of postage. Thanks, Phil From 62bt7 at prodigy.net Tue Jul 22 16:28:33 2008 From: 62bt7 at prodigy.net (62bt7) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:28:33 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Overdrives References: <33189170.1216762765711.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <08db01c8ec46$4b22d920$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> Message-ID: <007201c8ec4a$48a3f9a0$6c35480c@kirkgrbymz8g9u> How about (ignition switch on -- trans in neutral), moving the shift lever from side to side listening for the microswitch to click, if it clicks OD is engaged, if no click, well.... you guessed it. Kirk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich C" To: "Ronald A. Fine" ; ; Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrives > Ron, > > If it's engaged, you should hear the solenoid snap on when you turn the > ignition switch on, and click off the you turn the ignition switch off. > > Rich Chrysler > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ronald A. Fine" > To: ; > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 5:39 PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrives > > >> Is there any way to determine if the overdrive has disengaged? My >> situation is that when I broke a fan blade on the way to Conclave I was >> traveling about 75 mph with overdrive engaged. I immediately shut down >> the engine, put it in neutral to coast to the side of the freeway and >> then >> flipped the overdrive dash switch off. Is there any way I can check to >> see if the overdrive has actually disengaged?? I haven't driven the car >> since but I have repaired the damage and I am ready to back it out of my >> garage. >> >> Ron Fine >> 61BN7 >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as richchrysler at quickclic.net >> >> http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as 62bt7 at prodigy.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From jstmorris at yahoo.com Tue Jul 22 16:55:19 2008 From: jstmorris at yahoo.com (J. Scott Morris) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:55:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] UK Sprite MkI Database Message-ID: <877393.71662.qm@web30308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi All; Gary Lazarus, in the !Nostalgia Forum" on the !Atlas 1 Bulletin Board", announced on July 21st that he is in the process of building a database of as many UK registered Mk1 Sprites (frogeyes in the UK) as possible. His request for help and discussion can be found at : http://forums.autosport.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=102792 --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada; "60 3000 MkI BN7 & "62 3000 MkII BT7 J. Scott Morris - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. From hartfiel at alumni.princeton.edu Tue Jul 22 18:14:55 2008 From: hartfiel at alumni.princeton.edu (Michael Hartfield) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:14:55 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] OD Dash Switch Inop Message-ID: I was testing my OD relay on my BJ8 with a multimeter -- pursuant to all the information bouncing around the list -- and decided it was working as it was intended, however, the wires to and from the relay were hot. Now, the OD still kicks in in third and fourth, but the dashboard switch will not turn it off or on. Where do I go from here? From frogeye at porterscustom.com Tue Jul 22 18:46:31 2008 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (Dave Porter) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:46:31 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Overdrives In-Reply-To: <33189170.1216762765711.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20080723004618.ED7A5187874@autox.team.net> Ron, If the O/D was "stuck" on the car would not roll backwards. If you can push it even a few inches it is not engaged. Dave frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 Porter Custom Bicycles www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+frogeye=porterscustom.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+frogeye=porterscustom.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ronald A. Fine Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 3:39 PM To: Editorgary at aol.com; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrives Is there any way to determine if the overdrive has disengaged? My situation is that when I broke a fan blade on the way to Conclave I was traveling about 75 mph with overdrive engaged. I immediately shut down the engine, put it in neutral to coast to the side of the freeway and then flipped the overdrive dash switch off. Is there any way I can check to see if the overdrive has actually disengaged?? I haven't driven the car since but I have repaired the damage and I am ready to back it out of my garage. Ron Fine 61BN7 Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as frogeye at porterscustom.com http://www.team.net/archive From schauss at worldnet.att.net Tue Jul 22 19:52:37 2008 From: schauss at worldnet.att.net (Peter Schauss) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:52:37 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Why Don't depress the clutch ? In-Reply-To: <704E0102-0483-4E94-9B53-EF7C7235EE2D@cgocable.ca> Message-ID: <20080723015214.48BD8187647@autox.team.net> I have heard two reasons: - Depressing the clutch pushes forward against the crankshaft, putting an extra load on the thrust washers at a time when there is no oil pressure to lubricate them. - The graphite throwout bearing adds friction to the whole system and puts slightly more load on the starter. I would add one more reason of my own: - If you want to maximize the life of your throwout bearing you should avoid having the clutch depressed when it is not necessary. HTH, Peter Schauss > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces+schauss=worldnet.att.net at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces+schauss=worldnet.att.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf > Of gilbert gauthier > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 10:44 PM > To: Rich C > Cc: HEALEY MAIL > Subject: [Healeys] Why Don't depress the clutch ? > > Hi Rich, > > This afternoon i was talking with one of the old timer > member fom our healey club concerning the procedure that i use when > starting my healey. i was saying to him that I don't touch the clutch > and put the car in neutral to start it. He allready told me that it > was the no good way because it make the starter to work harder. I > told him that i saw somewhere in the Healey list that the way to go > with healey was not touching the clutch. With my VW 08 in cold > condition i depress the clutch for sure and i had always did with all > my manual cars. Then i looked at the mail archive i found something > that you wrote in april 2006 in respond to someone concerning problem > in cold start. > > > If it not too much to ask why is it different with healey > clutch and regular manual car. > > > Thank > > gilbert > > BT7 (61 > > > > (((( (((((::::Hard to start when cold::::: > > Gentlemen, > > Both of you (Dick and David) noted that you put the clutch all the > way in > while cranking. Don't do that. > > Make sure the gear lever is in neutral and crank the engine without > touching > the clutch. Depressing the clutch only puts more load on the crankshaft > thrust washers and slows the cranking speed. > > Rich Chrysler > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as schauss at worldnet.att.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From bn1 at pacbell.net Tue Jul 22 20:23:47 2008 From: bn1 at pacbell.net (Mr. Bill) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:23:47 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Protecting Gerry's signature. In-Reply-To: References: <959895.24519.qm@web51409.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <000401c8ea11$11fcc160$0201a8c0@JIM> Message-ID: <48869633.3040804@pacbell.net> Thanks to the MANY answers I received both on and off List. They are all filed away. And the winner is: Eric Grunden of Absolutely British. He suggested a piece of Plexiglas with either thin strips of painted steel or refrigerator magnet mat glued around the edges. That being held by strong magnets behind the aluminum facia. I like that because it doesn't damage or put holes in the facia. If that doesn't work, I'll decide what plan B is. And thanks to John and Ed for the temporary web space! Bill Alan Seigrist wrote: > Better than that why don't you get a nice piece of clear cling plastic > (like the stuff covering the front of a new mobile phone or screen > guard for an iPhone) and just slap that on. Actually - even better > have someone apply the Clear Bra to your dash. > > Alan > > - Original message - > > > On 7/20/08, James Lea wrote: > >> Cut a nice neat oval of acrylic and fasten it with two chrome screws. It's >> certainly worth to the value of the car than the harm the screws will do. >> You could even sandblast a rim around the oval to make it look more like a >> frame. Cheers, JL >> >> James Lea >> PO Box 25 >> Rockport Maine 04856 >> 1-207-236-3632 >> >> 1951 Triumph Renown >> 1952 MG TD >> 1952 Triumph Mayflower >> 1958 Rover P4 >> 1962 Austin Healey BT7 >> 1980 Commuta-car Electric From sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au Wed Jul 23 00:01:52 2008 From: sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au (sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:01:52 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Clutch Use Message-ID: <1216792912.4886c950b03b9@webmail.hotkey.net.au> My elders trained me to depress the clutch prior to engaging the starter and I understand the reason for this was based on very old and heavy gearsets submerged in cold, heavy grade and thick oil being the standard of the day. This imposed a high load on the starter and battery demand in an age where both were of less output than todays units. Additionally the engines themselves were bigger, heavier and with greater friction. Therefore by depressing the clutch the gearbox drag/load was removed from the starter system. In more modern motors and cars it is not the problem it was. Joe My elders trained me to depress the clutch prior to engaging the starter and I understand the reason for this was based on very old and heavy gearsets submerged in cold, heavy grade and thick oil being the standard of the day. This imposed a high load on the starter and battery demand in an age where both were of less output than todays units. Additionally the engines them selves were bigger, heavier and with greater friction. Therefore by depressing the clutch the gearbox drag/load was removed from the starter system. In more modern motors and cars it is not the problem it was. Joe This email is intended for the use of the individual or entity named above and may contain information that is confidential and privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately by return email or telephone (02) 42 722200 and destroy the original message. Whilst all due precautions are taken, The Wge does not represent that any communication via email (including any files attached) is free from computer viruses or other faults or defects. We cannot be liable for any loss or damage that may result directly or indirectly from the receipt of such communication. It is the responsibility of the person opening the files attached to scan those files for computer viruses. _________________________________________________________________ Message protected by MailGuard: e-mail anti-virus, anti-spam and content filtering. http://www.mailguard.com.au From f.ronald.rader at gmail.com Wed Jul 23 00:05:30 2008 From: f.ronald.rader at gmail.com (F. Ronald Rader) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:05:30 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] time to paint In-Reply-To: <8CABA45CB6E7782-B30-F2D@webmail-nh15.sysops.aol.com> References: <5caeedb50807212208q3d797448j4139bcbe91fa1a86@mail.gmail.com> <5caeedb50807220921k6a615136q83de7433132c8125@mail.gmail.com> <8CABA45CB6E7782-B30-F2D@webmail-nh15.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <5caeedb50807222305h646d2684ya755c3f78e4f99c3@mail.gmail.com> Phil: at one time my hot rod shop (hot rods & hobbies) quoted $10 to $13 to respray same color. i will get a new quote and post it in the next 30 days. they are in long beach. the painted my E type FHC same color black for around $13,000 witrh about $2000 body work. about 2 years ago. they did it in 30 days. I am also in the process of getting a paint quote for my 1954 Nash Healey for this winter. i will let you know ron r On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 12:10 PM, wrote: > > Ron, I live in Thousand Oaks and have also been trying to find a good painter. I'm also trying to quantify what is a reasonable amount to pay (as I feel you can easily get > taken advantage of if you don't know better). I've been told to expect $20-25k for a good paint job. Does that sound right? Just curious what you think you are looking at for > the Tanners doing your body work and paint (which I'm guessing is at the top end). > > Thanks much, > > Phil Rittenhouse > '58 BN4 > '61 BT7 > > > ----- From f.ronald.rader at gmail.com Wed Jul 23 00:08:17 2008 From: f.ronald.rader at gmail.com (F. Ronald Rader) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:08:17 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] time to paint In-Reply-To: <027201c8ec56$37998650$6401a8c0@OfficeDell> References: <5caeedb50807212208q3d797448j4139bcbe91fa1a86@mail.gmail.com> <5caeedb50807220921k6a615136q83de7433132c8125@mail.gmail.com> <027201c8ec56$37998650$6401a8c0@OfficeDell> Message-ID: <5caeedb50807222308v2b84dd7r19c269ca9377880e@mail.gmail.com> hey ron ! how you be. my BJ8 has no dents and only a couple of small rust spots. none in the usual places. i am looking for an over the to quality. i want to paint and re upholster the already very good driver to sell it at Goodings in January. ron rader On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Ron Davies wrote: > Ron, > Plz let me know what they charge you. > I had one estimate two years ago of $22,000. > No real dents, only had one respray in 71. No rust. (original CA car) > They said the cost is the labor in taking the car apart, engine out, etc. > Ron Davies > 67 BJ8 > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces+rdavies1=cox.net at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces+rdavies1=cox.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of F. > Ronald Rader > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:22 AM > To: Healey List > Subject: Re: [Healeys] time to paint > > bingo! just what I needed to know. > Charles is coming to see my car this week. > tnx > ron > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 8:15 AM, hcdodson wrote: >> >> Ron, >> >> Steve Tanner, Kurt's father does the metal work on the cars and Kurt's > brother Charles does the finish sanding and prep work getting the cars > ready for paint. Uptown Auto Craft in Upland does the finish paint job. >> >> I had Steve do the metal repair on my BN7 and Uptown did the paint. >> >> Hank Dodson >> 1962 BN7 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as rdavies1 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net Wed Jul 23 09:44:48 2008 From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:44:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] 2008 VENTURA BRITISH CAR SHOW - July 27th - Oxnard, CA Message-ID: <17362784.1216827889020.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net> The Central Coast British Car Club Presents: THE EIGHTEENTH ANNUAL VENTURA COUNTY BRITISH CAR SHOW Channel Islands Harbour * July 27th, 2008 Join us for a great afternoon at our wonderful waterfront location at the Channel Islands Harbour. This year we are honoring the Austin Healey marque, featuring the 50th anniversary of the Bugeye Sprite. There will be food, entertainment, vendors, and a swap meet and some of the finest British Cars in Southern California. Oxnard is but a short and lovely drive up the coast from Los Angeles b Come to Oxnard, enjoy the show, enjoy the ride, be back by supper b SEE YOU THERE!!! Website: www.centralcoastbritishcarclub.com INFORMATION: Gary Rice (805) 644-3290 Bill Guzman (805) 484-1528 From healeybn7 at yahoo.com Wed Jul 23 10:32:57 2008 From: healeybn7 at yahoo.com (Dean Caccavo) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:32:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 2, Issue 467 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <965133.69177.qm@web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Phil, I also live nearby. Recommend that you post your question to the SoCal British Motoring site at www.socalbritishmotoring.com. There is a discussion about local paint vendors and I am sure the folks posting would be happy to meet to show you the quality of the finished product. http://www.socalbritishmotoring.com/viewtopic.php?t=399 Hope to see you around, Dean (BN7) > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 12:10 PM, > wrote: > > > > Ron, I live in Thousand Oaks and have also been trying > to find a good painter.... > > > > Thanks much, > > > > Phil Rittenhouse > > '58 BN4 > > '61 BT7 From gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com Wed Jul 23 11:45:29 2008 From: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com (Richard Collins) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:45:29 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Why Don't depress the clutch ? In-Reply-To: <704E0102-0483-4E94-9B53-EF7C7235EE2D@cgocable.ca> References: <704E0102-0483-4E94-9B53-EF7C7235EE2D@cgocable.ca> Message-ID: Maybe it is different from others' experiences but I start my BN7 with the car in neutral and no clutch pushed in; With the clutch pushed in, I can definitely sense a slight load on the engine, even in neutral. Richard of KY 60 BN7 _________________________________________________________________ Keep your kids safer online with Windows Live Family Safety. http://www.windowslive.com/family_safety/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_fami ly_safety_072008 From mlempert at bellsouth.net Wed Jul 23 14:41:54 2008 From: mlempert at bellsouth.net (M Lempert) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:41:54 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Why Don't depress the clutch ? References: Message-ID: <2abd01c8ed04$8bc477e0$6001a8c0@DadsPC> I agree with Peter and have heard the same about the throwout bearings. I too was taught to depress the clutch before cranking, but this was before owning a British car. In fact, my old Supra required the clutch to be depressed before it would engage the starter. It was my mechanic some years back that told me to always start these cars in neutral - clutch out. My first Healey was notorious for slow cranking and I found a dramatic difference when I stopped depressing the clutch - it would start much quicker with a stronger crank. Even more of a problem was my E-Type, which at one time would hardly crank at all unless in neutral, clutch out. Mechanic also advised to go to neutral with clutch out when sitting for any period at traffic lights, etc. He said the throwout bearings were too soft and would wear quickly otherwise. I was at a Moss show up in NJ years back when a guy in a Healey next to me was having trouble due to a slow crank. I asked him if he had the clutch in and he responded "yes". I told him to let it out in neutral and try. It started right up. I could tell he was puzzled why. Mike L. >From: "Peter Schauss" >Subject: Re: [Healeys] Why Don't depress the clutch ? >I have heard two reasons: > >- Depressing the clutch pushes forward against the crankshaft, putting an >extra load on the thrust washers at a time when there is no oil pressure to >lubricate them. > >- The graphite throwout bearing adds friction to the whole system and puts >slightly more load on the starter. > >I would add one more reason of my own: > >- If you want to maximize the life of your throwout bearing you should >avoid having the clutch depressed when it is not necessary. > >HTH, >Peter Schauss From ourxke at hotmail.com Wed Jul 23 15:02:50 2008 From: ourxke at hotmail.com (Ken Wignall) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:02:50 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] PEDC 11th ANNUAL ALL BRITISH CAR SHOW-July 27th- Lakewood, New Jersey Message-ID: The Positive Earth Drivers Club Presents: The 11th ANNUAL ALL BRITISH CAR SHOW Georgian Court University, Lakewood NJ, Sunday, July 27th The show is open to all vintage British cars but the featured marque for this year's event is the AUSTIN HEALEY There will be a special award this year for the "Best Austin Healey in Show" to honor the top car in the category. Visitors are welcome at no charge; Registration for participants is between 9 and 11 am and it is $18 per car. Judging (by participant's choice) is from 11 am- 1 pm. A great selection of door prizes include tickets for the US Open tennis, Broadway shows and New Brunswick State Theatre, rare and unusual British car parts & accessories, restaurant and retail gift certificates, jewelry and other items of interest. Trophies and awards for the Car Classes begin at 2 pm. There are 1st, 2nd and 3rd place awards in over 15 classes by make and model. In case of inclement weather, the following Sunday, August 3rd is the rain date with the same location, hours and categories. PEDC was established in 1986 to promote the heritage of Brith automobiles and encourage the enjoyment of collecting, restoring and driving British automobiles through both automotive and social activities. The club's motto is "it's not just a club, it's an attitude". CONTACT: PEDC SHOW CHAIRMAN JOHN KAY 908-359-6770 _________________________________________________________________ Time for vacation? WIN what you need- enter now! http://www.gowindowslive.com/summergiveaway/?ocid=tag_jlyhm From dwhite4949 at wowway.com Wed Jul 23 16:40:48 2008 From: dwhite4949 at wowway.com (Daniel and Diane White) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:40:48 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Why Don't depress the clutch ? In-Reply-To: References: <704E0102-0483-4E94-9B53-EF7C7235EE2D@cgocable.ca> Message-ID: <4887B370.7070709@wowway.com> Since following this particular topic I tried starting the Healey today in neutral without depressing the clutch (I have always depressed the clutch in the past). The engine turned over a lot easier. I am now a non-depressed convert. Dan 1962 BN7 Mk II From britcrs at gmail.com Wed Jul 23 17:27:11 2008 From: britcrs at gmail.com (Marvin James) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:27:11 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Wiring Questions Message-ID: This week I should get my BN1 chassis back from the body/paint shop and start re-assembly. Yee-ha! This was someone else's abandoned project and came with a lot of work done and some new parts. Most of the work I have redone or undone. It had a new wiring harness installed (I removed it) and a BN2 gearbox. I would like to go with the BN2 single O/D relay setup. So, here's my question(s): Should I go with a BN1 or a BN2 wiring harness? I am willing to sacrifice (eBay) the new harness that came with the car which I assume is a BN1. Any easy way to tell what it is? I assume I need a BN2 O/D harness, I have a new BN1 Harness. Any other known problems I will encounter? Marv J From ynotink at msn.com Wed Jul 23 17:43:56 2008 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:43:56 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Wiring Questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It's been a while, but I think the only difference is the OD harness. Bill Lawrence BN1#554 >From: "Marvin James" >To: Healeys at autox.team.net >Subject: [Healeys] Wiring Questions >Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:27:11 -0700 > >This week I should get my BN1 chassis back from the body/paint shop and >start re-assembly. Yee-ha! This was someone else's abandoned project and >came with a lot of work done and some new parts. Most of the work I have >redone or undone. It had a new wiring harness installed (I removed it) and >a >BN2 gearbox. I would like to go with the BN2 single O/D relay setup. So, >here's my question(s): > >Should I go with a BN1 or a BN2 wiring harness? I am willing to sacrifice >(eBay) the new harness that came with the car which I assume is a BN1. Any >easy way to tell what it is? I assume I need a BN2 O/D harness, I have a >new >BN1 Harness. Any other known problems I will encounter? > >Marv J >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >Healeys at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > >You are subscribed as ynotink at msn.com > >http://www.team.net/archive From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 23 17:57:43 2008 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:57:43 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Wiring Questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You can install a BN2 harness then you will need to install the relay on the firewall under the hood. There may be a few other minor little differences but there should not be any that is a problem. Have fun the next steps are the most fun you will have in any restoration, other that when the engine starts for the first time or the first road test. It don't matter how many you do these are always the best steps in the restoration. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Jul 23, 2008, at 4:27 PM, Marvin James wrote: > This week I should get my BN1 chassis back from the body/paint shop > and > start re-assembly. Yee-ha! This was someone else's abandoned > project and > came with a lot of work done and some new parts. Most of the work I > have > redone or undone. It had a new wiring harness installed (I removed > it) and a > BN2 gearbox. I would like to go with the BN2 single O/D relay > setup. So, > here's my question(s): > > Should I go with a BN1 or a BN2 wiring harness? I am willing to > sacrifice > (eBay) the new harness that came with the car which I assume is a > BN1. Any > easy way to tell what it is? I assume I need a BN2 O/D harness, I > have a new > BN1 Harness. Any other known problems I will encounter? > > Marv J > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From comkanuk at cgocable.ca Wed Jul 23 18:13:44 2008 From: comkanuk at cgocable.ca (gilbert gauthier) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:13:44 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Why Don't depress the clutch ? In-Reply-To: <092401c8ec65$b936af80$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> References: <704E0102-0483-4E94-9B53-EF7C7235EE2D@cgocable.ca> <092401c8ec65$b936af80$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> Message-ID: <93B4E411-1803-48AD-918E-9F6DA2F91F57@cgocable.ca> Thank to all of you for these explanations , Thank again Rich. Now i think....... i will be able to have a good discussion with my old timer Healey friend . Cheers Gilbert Le 08-07-22 ` 21:44, Rich C a icrit : > Gilbert, > > As I stated below, pushing the cluch pedal down exerts pressure on > the release bearing which in turn presses on the end of the > flywheel and therefore the crankshaft. This exerts a forward thrust > on the crankshaft and loads the crank journal thrust washers, > slowing the turning of the crankshaft. This also happens when the > engine is running at idle and you depress the clutch. Notice how > the engine RPM's slow somewhat. > > Most engines today have the driver depress the clutch as a safety > measure so if the transmission is in gear it will not jump ahead > while operating the starter. > > Rich > ----- Original Message ----- From: "gilbert gauthier" > > To: "Rich C" > Cc: "HEALEY MAIL" > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 10:44 PM > Subject: Why Don't depress the clutch ? > > > > > > Hi Rich, > > This afternoon i was talking with one of the old timer > member fom our healey club concerning the procedure that i use when > starting my healey. i was saying to him that I don't touch the clutch > and put the car in neutral to start it. He allready told me that it > was the no good way because it make the starter to work harder. I > told him that i saw somewhere in the Healey list that the way to go > with healey was not touching the clutch. With my VW 08 in cold > condition i depress the clutch for sure and i had always did with all > my manual cars. Then i looked at the mail archive i found something > that you wrote in april 2006 in respond to someone concerning problem > in cold start. > > > If it not too much to ask why is it different with healey > clutch and regular manual car. > > > Thank > > gilbert > > BT7 (61 > > > > (((( (((((::::Hard to start when cold::::: > > Gentlemen, > > Both of you (Dick and David) noted that you put the clutch all the > way in > while cranking. Don't do that. > > Make sure the gear lever is in neutral and crank the engine without > touching > the clutch. Depressing the clutch only puts more load on the > crankshaft > thrust washers and slows the cranking speed. > > Rich Chrysler > > Gilbert BT7 -BN7-BN4 From banjojohn at cox.net Wed Jul 23 20:13:33 2008 From: banjojohn at cox.net (John O'Brien) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:13:33 -0500 (Central Daylight Time) Subject: [Healeys] Audiovox Cruise control wiring Message-ID: <4887E54D.000003.04944@TOSHIBA-USER> Hi Listers: I still have my Audiovox Cruise control in the box waiting for me to install it, which I might finally get around to this week. I read a post on the spridget list by Glen Byrns that he installed his in a sprite and did not use the magnet sensor - only used the signal from the coil. Here is part of his post: I had some trouble getting the new cruise control to hold speed above 50mph, So I searched the web for answers. If you have one of these and its working great, ignore this. This refers only To an Audiovox CCS100 cruise control in a Spridget. Set the PPM for 8000, set it for ECM, high sensitivity and don't bother with The magnet sensor or VSS wire. Run it "tach only". Without the magnet, its gets all it needs to know from the coil. You can just Cut off the fat gray wire. Now, after ignoring all the settings in the manual and setting it as above, It works perfectly. One touch of the button and I'm at 70mph all day. Push In the clutch and it disengages, touch the brake and it shuts off. Missouri Here I come!! Has anyone done their Big Healey installation like this? I would like to avoid installing the magnet and sensor if possible, especially if it can work as well as Glen claims his does. If so, can you share your settings if they are different than what Glen used. Thanks for any input. John O'Brien '61 Bugeye '65 BJ8 From shop at justbrits.com Wed Jul 23 21:27:22 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:27:22 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Audiovox Cruise control wiring In-Reply-To: <4887E54D.000003.04944@TOSHIBA-USER> References: <4887E54D.000003.04944@TOSHIBA-USER> Message-ID: <4887F69A.4040206@justbrits.com> All i can tell you John, IS that I met Glen at the Lake of The Ozarks Event and he only had HI praise for it AND his fuel mileage!!! Good Luck !! Ed From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Wed Jul 23 20:59:18 2008 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (healeymanjim at hansencc.net) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:59:18 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?clutch?= Message-ID: <20080724025918.1089.qmail@server278.com> for some reason it seems to make no difference with the bj8 whether i depress the clutch or not, but with the bn6 it is very noticeable. when idling the bn6, depessing the clutch drops the rpm 100plus. healeymanjim From hypercubic at yahoo.co.uk Wed Jul 23 23:01:02 2008 From: hypercubic at yahoo.co.uk (mike brooks) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:01:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] (no subject) Message-ID: <997449.27291.qm@web34207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I am by no means an expert on overdrives. However, I thought the hydraulic pressure required to engage the overdrive was created by a pump driven by the main propshaft, and that at road speeds below about 30 mph there is insufficient pressure to engage the overdrive. That is certainly the case with the overdrive in my Triumph based home build Lotus Seven replica. So even if for some reason the gearbox switch is still providing 12 volts to the solenoid, at low road speeds there would be no possibility of being in overdrive and reverse. My 100 has the throttle switched bypassed, but the gearbox switch is in circuit. If I leave the dashboard switch on, and reduce speed, it always drops out of overdrive sometime before I come to a halt. Comments welcome!! Mike Brooks '56 BN2 Aboyne Scotland Message: 2 Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:14:42 EDT From: Editorgary at aol.com Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrives To: healeys at autox.team.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >From philritten You have all mentioned not to back up while in overdrive. What if you accidently flip the overdrive switch while idling in your garage? As everyone has noted, with the system operating properly, there is a switch near the base of the gearshift on the transmission that breaks the overdrive circuit when the gear shift lever is moved oer into the first/second slot, effectively preventing the overdrive from operating in either of those two gears or reverse (which is, of course, beyond the 1/2 slot). HOWEVER, Should the overdrive be engaged with the vehicle moving forward, it is possible to get the car into reverse and start the car moving in reverse before the overdrive gears have had a chance to disengage. Then, if you immediately start to move forward again at high speed, you can cause the overdrive gears to break with a very loud boom. If this set of circumstances seems unusual in the extreme, ask me how I know for sure that it can occur. Moral of the story: Try to remember to shift the car out of overdrive when slowing down, such as when you're coming off the highway by mistake on an exit that goes directly into a parking lot. Then try to remember not to rush your shifts into and out of reverse when you try to get back out of the parking lot and on to the highway to catch up to the rest of your group. (the good news out of this story was that I was able to replace my grenaded 1960 overdrive with a 1957 overdrive which gives me a better cruising speed on the highway.) Cheers Gary From ah at jharper.demon.co.uk Thu Jul 24 00:52:36 2008 From: ah at jharper.demon.co.uk (John Harper) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:52:36 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <997449.27291.qm@web34207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <997449.27291.qm@web34207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0OXa+kB0aCiIFwsf@jharper.demon.co.uk> Mike I don't believe that if an O/D drops out is a function of speed but more one of distance. The O/D pump works on the output shaft that drives the wheels, as you say. If you have been travelling any significant distance, say perhaps 100 feet then the accumulator will be fully charged with something like 400 psi oil pressure available. The manual advises working the O/D valve six or seven times before working on the O/D. This is to relieve the pressure from the accumulator that might still be there after many hours and is therefore dangerous. I suggest that if your O/D drops out around 30 mph the oil pressure has dropped, again as you suggest. On a correctly working unit this should not be the case. Either the control valve is being operated somehow or there is an internal leak inside the unit. The most likely cause is a badly seating valve but it could be leaks around the operating or accumulator pistons. Regards >I am by no means an expert on overdrives. However, I thought the hydraulic >pressure required to engage the overdrive was created by a pump driven by the >main propshaft, and that at road speeds below about 30 mph there is >insufficient pressure to engage the overdrive. That is certainly the case with >the overdrive in my Triumph based home build Lotus Seven replica. So even if >for some reason the gearbox switch is still providing 12 volts to the >solenoid, at low road speeds there would be no possibility of being in >overdrive and reverse. My 100 has the throttle switched bypassed, but the >gearbox switch is in circuit. If I leave the dashboard switch on, and reduce >speed, it always drops out of overdrive sometime before I come to a halt. -- John Harper From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Jul 24 01:29:15 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:29:15 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] clutch In-Reply-To: <20080724025918.1089.qmail@server278.com> References: <20080724025918.1089.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: Jim - That's because the BJ8 has a diaphragm clutch which the spring rate is about 1/3 of earlier healeys. this means the drag on the throwout bearing and drag on the thrust bearings in the motor for a BJ8 will be much less. Alan On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:59 AM, wrote: > for some reason it seems to make no difference with the bj8 whether i > depress the clutch or not, but with the bn6 it is very noticeable. when > idling the bn6, depessing the clutch drops the rpm 100plus. healeymanjim > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Jul 24 01:39:28 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:39:28 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Audiovox Cruise control wiring In-Reply-To: <4887E54D.000003.04944@TOSHIBA-USER> References: <4887E54D.000003.04944@TOSHIBA-USER> Message-ID: Just be sure not to dip in and out of OD with that set up. The sprite doesn't have OD so this set up is less of a risk. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:13 AM, John O'Brien wrote: > Hi Listers: > I still have my Audiovox Cruise control in the box waiting for me to > install > it, which I might finally get around to this week. I read a post on the > spridget list by Glen Byrns that he installed his in a sprite and did not > use the magnet sensor - only used the signal from the coil. Here is part > of > his post: > > I had some trouble getting the new cruise control to hold speed above > 50mph, > So I searched the web for answers. > If you have one of these and its working great, ignore this. This refers > only > To an Audiovox CCS100 cruise control in a Spridget. > Set the PPM for 8000, set it for ECM, high sensitivity and don't bother > with > The magnet sensor or VSS wire. Run it "tach only". > Without the magnet, its gets all it needs to know from the coil. You can > just > Cut off the fat gray wire. > > Now, after ignoring all the settings in the manual and setting it as above, > It works perfectly. One touch of the button and I'm at 70mph all day. > Push > In the clutch and it disengages, touch the brake and it shuts off. > Missouri > Here I come!! > > Has anyone done their Big Healey installation like this? I would like to > avoid installing the magnet and sensor if possible, especially if it can > work as well as Glen claims his does. If so, can you share your settings > if > they are different than what Glen used. > Thanks for any input. > John O'Brien > '61 Bugeye > '65 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From jkrowe46 at bigpond.net.au Thu Jul 24 02:10:04 2008 From: jkrowe46 at bigpond.net.au (John Rowe) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:10:04 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <0OXa+kB0aCiIFwsf@jharper.demon.co.uk> References: <997449.27291.qm@web34207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <0OXa+kB0aCiIFwsf@jharper.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <2E627C25DA844F52B8618D2117467DD3@Johnlaptop> Mike Is the 100 a 3 or 4 speed?.The 3 speed has a speed switch that cuts out below 30mph (centrifugal mounted at the rear of o/d unit. The 4 speed doesn't have this unit John Rowe Qld Australia BN1. BT7 ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Harper" To: "mike brooks" Cc: "Healeys" Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] (no subject) > Mike > > I don't believe that if an O/D drops out is a function of speed but more > one of distance. The O/D pump works on the output shaft that drives the > wheels, as you say. If you have been travelling any significant > distance, say perhaps 100 feet then the accumulator will be fully > charged with something like 400 psi oil pressure available. > > The manual advises working the O/D valve six or seven times before > working on the O/D. This is to relieve the pressure from the accumulator > that might still be there after many hours and is therefore dangerous. > > I suggest that if your O/D drops out around 30 mph the oil pressure has > dropped, again as you suggest. On a correctly working unit this should > not be the case. Either the control valve is being operated somehow or > there is an internal leak inside the unit. The most likely cause is a > badly seating valve but it could be leaks around the operating or > accumulator pistons. > > > Regards >>I am by no means an expert on overdrives. However, I thought the hydraulic >>pressure required to engage the overdrive was created by a pump driven by >>the >>main propshaft, and that at road speeds below about 30 mph there is >>insufficient pressure to engage the overdrive. That is certainly the case >>with >>the overdrive in my Triumph based home build Lotus Seven replica. So even >>if >>for some reason the gearbox switch is still providing 12 volts to the >>solenoid, at low road speeds there would be no possibility of being in >>overdrive and reverse. My 100 has the throttle switched bypassed, but the >>gearbox switch is in circuit. If I leave the dashboard switch on, and >>reduce >>speed, it always drops out of overdrive sometime before I come to a halt. > > -- > John Harper > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as jkrowe46 at bigpond.net.au > > http://www.team.net/archive From hypercubic at yahoo.co.uk Thu Jul 24 04:15:44 2008 From: hypercubic at yahoo.co.uk (mike brooks) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 03:15:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Overdrive Message-ID: <777769.37310.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> It's a 4-speed. By the way the O/D on the TriumphB IS a different model - A type rather than J type from memory. For the Triumph, the thing about roadspeeds below 30mph is actually in the manual somewhere. So it looks like the O/D in the Healeys is different.B I think the hydraulic pressure in my BN2 O/D is a little low, because it is very influenced by oil viscosity. But it works fine with 90 gearbox oil (never drops out when I need it) so I will leave well alone. B Thanks to you both for the input B Mike ----- Original Message ---- From: John Rowe Subject: Re: [Healeys] (no subject) Mike Is the 100 a 3 or 4 speed?.The 3 speed has a speed switch that cuts out below 30mph (centrifugal mounted at the rear of o/d unit. The 4 speed doesn't have this unit John RoweB Qld AustraliaB BN1. BT7 ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Harper" To: "mike brooks" Cc: "Healeys" Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] (no subject) > Mike > > I don't believe that if an O/D drops out is a function of speed but more > one of distance. The O/D pump works on the output shaft that drives the > wheels, as you say. If you have been travelling any significant > distance, say perhaps 100 feet then the accumulator will be fully > charged with something like 400 psi oil pressure available.......... From tomfelts at windstream.net Thu Jul 24 06:28:06 2008 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (tomfelts at windstream.net) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 8:28:06 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] clutch Message-ID: <20080724122806.MYRD13398.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> FWIW, I never depressed the clutch to start my BJ8. I kinda figured this out on my own since when I did, it was much slower turning over. > > From: > Date: 2008/07/23 Wed PM 10:59:18 EDT > To: "healeys at autox.team.net" > Subject: [Healeys] clutch > > for some reason it seems to make no difference with the bj8 whether i depress the clutch or not, but with the bn6 it is very noticeable. when idling the bn6, depessing the clutch drops the rpm 100plus. healeymanjim > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Jul 24 07:29:09 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:29:09 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Overdrive In-Reply-To: <777769.37310.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <777769.37310.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Mike - Just to clarify the Triumphs used the same "A type" OD as the Healey, and the Jag XK 140s and 150s. The only reason why Triumph didn't put the throttle switch on their cars was that Triumph was the cheapest car of the lot and they left the switch off to cut corners and substituted that with instructions for specified use in the manual. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 6:15 PM, mike brooks wrote: > It's a 4-speed. By the way the O/D on the TriumphB IS a different model - A > type rather than J type from memory. For the Triumph, the thing about > roadspeeds below 30mph is actually in the manual somewhere. So it looks > like > the O/D in the Healeys is different.B I think the hydraulic pressure in my > BN2 O/D is a little low, because it is very influenced by oil viscosity. > But > it works fine with 90 gearbox oil (never drops out when I need it) so I > will > leave well alone. > B > Thanks to you both for the input > B > Mike From ssanders at midsouthinc.com Thu Jul 24 07:57:09 2008 From: ssanders at midsouthinc.com (Steve Sanders) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:57:09 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Cruise Control for Big Healey Message-ID: <001501c8ed95$2a9fe0d0$0301a8c0@SS> All this talk about cruise control has me all fired up! Does anyone have installation pictures and specific information about the AudioVox ccs 100 unit? Best Regards Steve Sanders 61- BT7 From scthomton at yahoo.com Thu Jul 24 08:14:41 2008 From: scthomton at yahoo.com (Steve Thomton) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:14:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Torque setting for manifolds Message-ID: <17083.71932.qm@web50608.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Can anyone help with the torque settings for the exhaust and intake manifolds? I'm concerned that I may have over tightened the brass nuts on the exhaust......I can't find a spec for them in the AH shop manual. Thanks, Steve Thomton Larkpsur, CO From prattri at msn.com Thu Jul 24 08:42:28 2008 From: prattri at msn.com (Richard Pratt) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:42:28 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Rubber Parts Message-ID: List, I need to buy the rubber parts for windshield, wing windows and side windows. Can I get some recommendation as to who has the best parts? The rubber mounts for the exhaust system which I purchased only lasted one day before they separated. TIA Richard From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Jul 24 08:45:56 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:45:56 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Torque setting for manifolds In-Reply-To: <17083.71932.qm@web50608.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <17083.71932.qm@web50608.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Steve - These are fixed with brass nuts and the gaskets seal best with light pressure. I don't know if there's a torque setting for these but usually around 25 ft lbs should do the job. Too tight and you'll pinch the gaskets which makes them not seal properly. Alan On 7/24/08, Steve Thomton wrote: > Can anyone help with the torque settings for the exhaust and intake > manifolds? I'm concerned that I may have over tightened the brass nuts on > the > exhaust......I can't find a spec for them in the AH shop manual. > > Thanks, > Steve Thomton > Larkpsur, CO > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 From linwoodrose at mac.com Thu Jul 24 08:57:31 2008 From: linwoodrose at mac.com (Lin Rose) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:57:31 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Cruise Control for Big Healey In-Reply-To: <001501c8ed95$2a9fe0d0$0301a8c0@SS> References: <001501c8ed95$2a9fe0d0$0301a8c0@SS> Message-ID: <77009688000936218491172336865010293794-Webmail2@me.com> Hi Steve, I put a piece together on this. I installed the same unit in my 60 BT7 and love it. Check out this link. Go about half way down the web page and you will see another link to download a pdf of my article. http://www.capitalhealeys.org/ Lin 1960 BT7 "The Bloody Beast" 1959 Bugeye On Thursday, July 24, 2008, at 10:10AM, "Steve Sanders" wrote: >All this talk about cruise control has me all fired up! Does anyone have >installation pictures and specific information about the AudioVox ccs 100 >unit? > >Best Regards > >Steve Sanders >61- BT7 >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >Healeys at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > >You are subscribed as linwoodrose at mac.com > >http://www.team.net/archive From sbyers at ec.rr.com Thu Jul 24 09:08:54 2008 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8Healeys) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:08:54 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Torque setting for manifolds In-Reply-To: <17083.71932.qm@web50608.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <17083.71932.qm@web50608.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004401c8ed9f$30401c30$90c05490$@rr.com> Steve, if you didn't strip the brass nuts, you're O.K. You want to get the nuts tight enough to prevent manifold gasket leaks, and tightened as evenly as possible (I do it by feel). With the engine in the car, it's hard enough just to access the bottom nuts, much less to get a torque wrench on them. There are standard torques you can look up on the internet based on the diameter and hardness of the bolts/studs, but there are none for brass nuts on a steel stud. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steve Thomton Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 7:15 AM To: List Healey Subject: [Healeys] Torque setting for manifolds Can anyone help with the torque settings for the exhaust and intake manifolds? I'm concerned that I may have over tightened the brass nuts on the exhaust......I can't find a spec for them in the AH shop manual. Thanks, Steve Thomton Larkpsur, CO From mgcharlie at comcast.net Thu Jul 24 09:14:56 2008 From: mgcharlie at comcast.net (Charlie Baldwin) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:14:56 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Overdrive In-Reply-To: References: <777769.37310.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <48889C70.9090902@comcast.net> Alan, Just as Volvo did with their 1800s, 122s and 140 series cars. They suggested to not use overdrive below 40 mph and that to use the clutch in either direction if the change was too abrupt. Even then I don't believe that Volvos were considered cheap cars, nor were they known for cutting corners. They used the D type and J type overdrives, both very similar to the A type. Their overdrives were also on both four and six cylinder cars. The hp rating on the fours got as high as 130 hp. The 164 E probably had a bit more. They also did not have a problem with their cars wearing out prematurely. I believe Irv Gordon now has over 2.5 million miles on his 1800 S. The difference between manufacturers was just different approaches to the same problem. History has borne out that the additional hardware is probably not necessary. Charlie Alan Seigrist wrote: > Mike - > > Just to clarify the Triumphs used the same "A type" OD as the Healey, and > the Jag XK 140s and 150s. The only reason why Triumph didn't put the > throttle switch on their cars was that Triumph was the cheapest car of the > lot and they left the switch off to cut corners and substituted that with > instructions for specified use in the manual. > > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '64 BJ8 > > On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 6:15 PM, mike brooks wrote: > > >> It's a 4-speed. By the way the O/D on the TriumphB IS a different model - A >> type rather than J type from memory. For the Triumph, the thing about >> roadspeeds below 30mph is actually in the manual somewhere. So it looks >> like >> the O/D in the Healeys is different.B I think the hydraulic pressure in my >> BN2 O/D is a little low, because it is very influenced by oil viscosity. >> But >> it works fine with 90 gearbox oil (never drops out when I need it) so I >> will >> leave well alone. >> B >> Thanks to you both for the input >> B >> Mike >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as mgcharlie at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of mgcharlie.vcf] From RonFineEsq at earthlink.net Thu Jul 24 09:26:25 2008 From: RonFineEsq at earthlink.net (Ron Fine) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:26:25 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Why Don't depress the clutch ? References: <704E0102-0483-4E94-9B53-EF7C7235EE2D@cgocable.ca> <4887B370.7070709@wowway.com> Message-ID: My experience is the same. My Healey and MGB always seem to start easier with the clutch out. Ron 61BN7 66 MGB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel and Diane White" To: "Healey list" Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Why Don't depress the clutch ? > Since following this particular topic I tried starting the Healey today > in neutral without depressing the clutch (I have always depressed the > clutch in the past). The engine turned over a lot easier. I am now a > non-depressed convert. > Dan > 1962 BN7 Mk II From RonFineEsq at earthlink.net Thu Jul 24 09:36:41 2008 From: RonFineEsq at earthlink.net (Ron Fine) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:36:41 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] My Overdrive Message-ID: <0BA2963614AB4954B1382711F5E9C8F6@XPS400> Thanks to all who responded to my Over Drive question. I have confirmed that it is not engaged and the car is back on the road ready for the CCBCC show this weekend. Anyone else on this list going? I plan to drive from WLA about 7:00 am. Ron Fine From philritten at aol.com Thu Jul 24 09:51:30 2008 From: philritten at aol.com (philritten at aol.com) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:51:30 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Brakes Message-ID: <8CABBBC46321E0F-C80-55D7@webmail-nf10.sim.aol.com> All, The brake pedal has been low on my '58 since I purchased it recently. I took it in to a local shop to have the brakes bled and they told me one of the front cylinders was leaking a little which was kept them from being able to get the pedal to come all the way up. I got two new cylinders (from Moss - I know you want to kill me) and they replaced those. When they were bleeding the brakes the 2nd time they broke (accidentally) the place on the rear cylinder where the bleed screw is goes into the cylinder. So I got two new rear cylinders. They bled the brakes again and the pedal is even worse (it is at the floor on the first pump but comes up after that). They suggested I get a new master (which I have on the way). It looks like all of the cylinders are probably original. Is this somewhat normal when replacing the original equipment and is there anything unusual I should know about a Healey that might get past the average brake man? Thanks, Phil From richard.ewald at gmail.com Thu Jul 24 10:41:33 2008 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:41:33 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Overdrive In-Reply-To: <48889C70.9090902@comcast.net> References: <777769.37310.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <48889C70.9090902@comcast.net> Message-ID: Actually both the J and P type OD were not only used on 240s but also 240 Turbo and 700 turbos. 161-163 horsepower depending on year. Not a throttle switch in sight. As Charlie said, different strokes for different folks. On 7/24/08, Charlie Baldwin wrote: > > >>The hp rating on the fours got as > high as 130 hp. The 164 E probably had a bit more. > They also did not have a problem with their cars wearing out > prematurely. I believe Irv Gordon now has over 2.5 million miles on his > 1800 S. > The difference between manufacturers was just different approaches to > the same problem. History has borne out that the additional hardware is > probably not necessary. > Charlie From amalin at mac.com Thu Jul 24 10:52:46 2008 From: amalin at mac.com (Al Malin) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:52:46 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Rubber Parts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1E50D39B-8F10-41D5-87A8-FE9E61DF7055@mac.com> Richard, British Car Specialists have exhaust rubber mounts they claim is higher quality. I bought some of them and they haven't failed yet but then they haven't many miles on them. They also have the same ones that Moss sell. http://www.britishcarspecialists.com/ Al Malin Tricarb On Jul 24, 2008, at 10:42 AM, Richard Pratt wrote: > List, > > I need to buy the rubber parts for windshield, wing windows and side > windows. Can I get some recommendation as to who has the best parts? > The > rubber mounts for the exhaust system which I purchased only lasted > one day > before they separated. > > TIA > > Richard > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as amalin at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From mlempert at bellsouth.net Thu Jul 24 12:39:38 2008 From: mlempert at bellsouth.net (M Lempert) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:39:38 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Why Don't depress the clutch ? Message-ID: <370201c8edbc$a19a2ed0$6001a8c0@DadsPC> I agree with Peter and have heard the same about the throwout bearings. I too was taught to depress the clutch before cranking, but this was before owning a British car. In fact, my old Supra required the clutch to be depressed before it would engage the starter. It was my mechanic some years back that told me to always start these cars in neutral - clutch out. My first Healey was notorious for slow cranking and I found a dramatic difference when I stopped depressing the clutch - it would start much quicker with a stronger crank. Even more of a problem was my E-Type, which at one time would hardly crank at all unless in neutral, clutch out. Mechanic also advised to go to neutral with clutch out when sitting for any period at traffic lights, etc. He said the throwout bearings were too soft and would wear quickly otherwise. I was at a Moss show up in NJ years back when a guy in a Healey next to me was having trouble due to a slow crank. I asked him if he had the clutch in and he responded "yes". I told him to let it out in neutral and try. It started right up. I could tell he was puzzled why. > Mike L. >>From: "Peter Schauss" >>- Depressing the clutch pushes forward against the crankshaft, putting an >>extra load on the thrust washers at a time when there is no oil pressure >>to >>lubricate them. >>- The graphite throwout bearing adds friction to the whole system and >>puts >>slightly more load on the starter. From robertlarson at worldnet.att.net Thu Jul 24 13:07:51 2008 From: robertlarson at worldnet.att.net (Robert Larson) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:07:51 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Why Don't depress the clutch ? In-Reply-To: <370201c8edbc$a19a2ed0$6001a8c0@DadsPC> References: <370201c8edbc$a19a2ed0$6001a8c0@DadsPC> Message-ID: <4888D307.1020908@worldnet.att.net> This is true with all "modern" cars that I have driven. However as I understand it this is mandated as a safety regulation, at least here in the USA, by our big brother government. Our old cars are a hazard as it could be started in gear and hit something in front of us. That being the case any other starting issue or advantage is irrelevant. Bob 55BN1 and a bunch of real hazardous Brit bikes (Right Foot Shifters, also outlawed) M Lempert wrote: In fact, my old Supra required the clutch to be depressed before it would engage the starter. Mike L. From philritten at aol.com Thu Jul 24 14:12:01 2008 From: philritten at aol.com (philritten at aol.com) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:12:01 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Brakes In-Reply-To: <200807241426.8964888c942313@rly-ma02.mx.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CABBE0AA98F07A-548-67E@webmail-nf10.sim.aol.com> Thank you all for your input! Interestingly, I learned that the BN4 has four (4) front wheel cylinders (wow!). Will keep you updated. Phil From ahbn6 at optonline.net Thu Jul 24 14:20:02 2008 From: ahbn6 at optonline.net (John Sims) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:20:02 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Brakes In-Reply-To: <8CABBE0AA98F07A-548-67E@webmail-nf10.sim.aol.com> References: <200807241426.8964888c942313@rly-ma02.mx.aol.com> <8CABBE0AA98F07A-548-67E@webmail-nf10.sim.aol.com> Message-ID: <008f01c8edca$a7373910$f5a5ab30$@net> Can you share the input with the list? John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of philritten at aol.com Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 4:12 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey Brakes Thank you all for your input! Interestingly, I learned that the BN4 has four (4) front wheel cylinders (wow!). Will keep you updated. From e-wilkins at cox.net Thu Jul 24 16:16:31 2008 From: e-wilkins at cox.net (Eric (Rick) Wilkins) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:16:31 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Brakes In-Reply-To: <8CABBBC46321E0F-C80-55D7@webmail-nf10.sim.aol.com> References: <8CABBBC46321E0F-C80-55D7@webmail-nf10.sim.aol.com> Message-ID: It shouldn't be that difficult for an "old school" mechanic to get right. I'm just about to replace my two rear cylinders and am thinking about how to proceed with the front. I've got a BN6 which uses FOUR 80-90 dollar ea. cylinders... Wilko On Jul 24, 2008, at 8:51 AM, philritten at aol.com wrote: > All, > > The brake pedal has been low on my '58 since I purchased it > recently. I took it in to a local shop to have the brakes bled and > they told me one of the front cylinders was leaking a little which > was kept them from being able to get the pedal to come all the way > up. I got two new cylinders (from Moss - I know you want to kill > me) and they replaced those. When they were bleeding the brakes the > 2nd time they broke (accidentally) the place on the rear cylinder > where the bleed screw is goes into the cylinder. So I got two new > rear cylinders. They bled the brakes again and the pedal is even > worse (it is at the floor on the first pump but comes up after > that). They suggested I get a new master (which I have on the way). > It looks like all of the cylinders are probably original. Is this > somewhat normal when replacing the original equipment and is there > anything unusual I should know about a Healey that might get past > the average brake man? > > Thanks, > Phil > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as e-wilkins at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From philritten at aol.com Thu Jul 24 16:59:17 2008 From: philritten at aol.com (Philip Rittenhouse) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:59:17 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Brakes In-Reply-To: References: <8CABBBC46321E0F-C80-55D7@webmail-nf10.sim.aol.com> Message-ID: <910F8CA8-88AC-437B-8FD8-6615FFE66EBC@aol.com> Sorry all, here is some of the input I got; *there are four cylinders(2 on each wheel) on the front of a BN4 *replace the 3 brake hoses (2 on front and one on back) while in there as they deteriate over time and can inhibit the flow of fluid. *need to adjust brakes (on backing plate) after installing cylinders and before bleeding brakes (can affect height of pedal) Additionally, I think I would recommend replacing everything at once while in there instead of trying to go the cheap route (like I did) especially if the parts are original. Also, I'd recommend not bothering to rebuild the old cylinders if possible. The cylinders are 50 years old and can only last so long. Phil Sent from my iPhone On Jul 24, 2008, at 3:16 PM, "Eric (Rick) Wilkins" wrote: > It shouldn't be that difficult for an "old school" mechanic to get > right. > > I'm just about to replace my two rear cylinders and am thinking about > how to proceed with the front. I've got a BN6 which uses FOUR 80-90 > dollar ea. cylinders... > > > Wilko > > On Jul 24, 2008, at 8:51 AM, philritten at aol.com wrote: > >> All, >> >> The brake pedal has been low on my '58 since I purchased it >> recently. I took it in to a local shop to have the brakes bled and >> they told me one of the front cylinders was leaking a little which >> was kept them from being able to get the pedal to come all the way >> up. I got two new cylinders (from Moss - I know you want to kill >> me) and they replaced those. When they were bleeding the brakes the >> 2nd time they broke (accidentally) the place on the rear cylinder >> where the bleed screw is goes into the cylinder. So I got two new >> rear cylinders. They bled the brakes again and the pedal is even >> worse (it is at the floor on the first pump but comes up after >> that). They suggested I get a new master (which I have on the way). >> It looks like all of the cylinders are probably original. Is this >> somewhat normal when replacing the original equipment and is there >> anything unusual I should know about a Healey that might get past >> the average brake man? >> >> Thanks, >> Phil >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as e-wilkins at cox.net >> >> http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as philritten at aol.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From ktaylor at y7mail.com Thu Jul 24 17:13:17 2008 From: ktaylor at y7mail.com (Keith Taylor) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:13:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Friday in OZ Message-ID: <34174.99260.qm@web46107.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Wealthy CEO is appointed a new chauffeur Entering the car he asks "what is your name driver" George Sir I only refer to my chauffeurs by their surname what is yours Darling Sir B DRIVE ON GEORGE Keith TaylorB WAMBERAL OZ BN1 BN2 100M.....if I ever finish them Start at the new Yahoo!7 for a better online experience. www.yahoo7.com.au From Jwhlyadv at aol.com Thu Jul 24 17:59:01 2008 From: Jwhlyadv at aol.com (Jwhlyadv at aol.com) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:59:01 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Rooms at Southeastern Classic Message-ID: Rooms are going fast at the host hotel for Southeastern Classic. At only $45 per night for the host hotel it's a deal that can't be beat! As of tonight 58 of the rooms have been booked two months in advance. We still have 20 rooms available at the host hotel and plenty of overflow rooms at neighboring hotels so there is room for everyone. Register soon in order to receive the low low low advance rate of only $45. Visit _www.seclassic.com_ (http://www.seclassic.com) for more information and a registration form. Thanks! Jim Werner Louisville, KY **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 24 19:50:12 2008 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:50:12 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Overdrive References: <777769.37310.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001901c8edf8$c7caad00$9a2be046@markl946cfrd7q> 90Wt.? Another TR recommendation. Not too many manufactures suggesting that heavy gear oil. I believe that would be in the Hypoid class of lubricants? Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike brooks" To: Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 6:15 AM Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Overdrive > It's a 4-speed. By the way the O/D on the TriumphB IS a different model - > A > type rather than J type from memory. For the Triumph, the thing about > roadspeeds below 30mph is actually in the manual somewhere. So it looks > like > the O/D in the Healeys is different.B I think the hydraulic pressure in > my > BN2 O/D is a little low, because it is very influenced by oil viscosity. > But > it works fine with 90 gearbox oil (never drops out when I need it) so I > will > leave well alone. > B > Thanks to you both for the input > B > Mike From schauss at worldnet.att.net Thu Jul 24 19:53:10 2008 From: schauss at worldnet.att.net (Peter Schauss) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:53:10 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Why Don't depress the clutch ? In-Reply-To: <370201c8edbc$a19a2ed0$6001a8c0@DadsPC> Message-ID: <20080725015252.2C1CF187645@autox.team.net> My first car, a 1965 VW also had a graphite throwout bearing. When I took delivery on the car the salesman warned that the bearing would wear out very quickly if I sat at stoplights with my foot on the clutch. The habit putting the car in neutral when starting and whenever it was stopped carried over to every manual transmission car that I have owned since. I also taught that habit to my children. When my son took his 1997 VW GTI in for a new clutch at around 100k miles the dealer was amazed that the car had the original clutch. Peter Schauss 1963 BJ7 1980 MGB > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces+schauss=worldnet.att.net at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces+schauss=worldnet.att.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf > Of M Lempert > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 2:40 PM > To: Healey List > Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Why Don't depress the clutch ? > > I agree with Peter and have heard the same about the throwout bearings. I > too was taught to depress the clutch before cranking, but this was before > owning a British car. In fact, my old Supra required the clutch to be > depressed before it would engage the starter. It was my mechanic some > years > back that told me to always start these cars in neutral - clutch out. My > first Healey was notorious for slow cranking and I found a dramatic > difference when I stopped depressing the clutch - it would start much > quicker with a stronger crank. Even more of a problem was my E-Type, > which > at one time would hardly crank at all unless in neutral, clutch out. > Mechanic also advised to go to neutral with clutch out when sitting for > any > period at traffic lights, etc. He said the throwout bearings were too > soft > and would wear quickly otherwise. I was at a Moss show up in NJ years > back > when a guy in a Healey next to me was having trouble due to a slow crank. > I > asked him if he had the clutch in and he responded "yes". I told him to > let > it out in neutral and try. It started right up. I could tell he was > puzzled > why. > > > Mike L. > > >>From: "Peter Schauss" > >>- Depressing the clutch pushes forward against the crankshaft, putting > an > >>extra load on the thrust washers at a time when there is no oil pressure > >>to > >>lubricate them. > >>- The graphite throwout bearing adds friction to the whole system and > >>puts > >>slightly more load on the starter. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as schauss at worldnet.att.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From larryrph at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 24 21:02:52 2008 From: larryrph at sbcglobal.net (Lawrence Wysocki) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:02:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Why Don't depress the clutch ? In-Reply-To: <370201c8edbc$a19a2ed0$6001a8c0@DadsPC> Message-ID: <553738.44109.qm@web83404.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hi Mike' As a matter of interest my 2005 MINI Cooper S with manual transmission will not engage the starter unless the clutch is in Larry Wysocki BN 6 From rusd at sitestar.net Thu Jul 24 21:07:13 2008 From: rusd at sitestar.net (Dave Russell) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:07:13 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Overdrive In-Reply-To: <001901c8edf8$c7caad00$9a2be046@markl946cfrd7q> References: <777769.37310.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <001901c8edf8$c7caad00$9a2be046@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: <48894361.4080700@sitestar.net> Engine oil & gear oil are viscosity rated at different temperatures. SAE90 gear oil is about the same viscosity as SAE 40-50 engine oil. Not nearly as much heavier as the numbers would suggest. Dave Russell Mark LaPierre wrote: >90Wt.? Another TR recommendation. Not too many manufactures suggesting >that heavy gear oil. > >I believe that would be in the Hypoid class of lubricants? > >Mark > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "mike brooks" >To: >Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 6:15 AM >Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Overdrive > > > > >> I think the hydraulic pressure in my >>BN2 O/D is a little low, because it is very influenced by oil viscosity. >>But it works fine with 90 gearbox oil (never drops out when I need it) so I >>will leave well alone. >>B >>Thanks to you both for the input >>B >>Mike From edriver at sasktel.net Thu Jul 24 21:23:41 2008 From: edriver at sasktel.net (E.A. Driver) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:23:41 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Charley Braum Message-ID: <4889473D.4000303@sasktel.net> Hi Charley Please contact me off the List I've delete your e-mail address by accident. Kind regards Ed From hypercubic at yahoo.co.uk Fri Jul 25 01:58:43 2008 From: hypercubic at yahoo.co.uk (mike brooks) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:58:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Overdrive Message-ID: <219912.99548.qm@web34204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks Dave you are exactly correct. And as I said in a previous post, Castrol Hypoy EP90 is NOT the same thing as "hypoid". ----- Original Message ---- From: Dave Russell To: Mark LaPierre Cc: mike brooks ; healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, 25 July, 2008 6:07:13 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fw: Overdrive Engine oil & gear oil are viscosity rated at different temperatures. SAE90 gear oil is about the same viscosity as SAE 40-50 engine oil. Not nearly as much heavier as the numbers would suggest. Dave Russell Mark LaPierre wrote: >90Wt.?B B Another TR recommendation.B Not too many manufactures suggesting >that heavy gear oil. > >I believeB that would be in the Hypoid class of lubricants? > >Mark > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "mike brooks" >To: >Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 6:15 AM >Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Overdrive > > >B > >> I think the hydraulic pressure in my >>BN2 O/D is a little low, because it is very influenced by oil viscosity. >>But it works fine with 90 gearbox oil (never drops out when I need it) so I >>will leave well alone. >>B >>Thanks to you both for the input >>B >>Mike >>B B From fredwescoe at windstream.net Fri Jul 25 04:21:03 2008 From: fredwescoe at windstream.net (Fred Wescoe) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:21:03 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Clutch Message-ID: <005701c8ee40$257436f0$6500a8c0@D10F7N31> My first car was a TR3 and I was told not to depress the clutch and to keep it in neutral. It would always crank faster that way. Of course it was the only way the hand crank worked and I did use that often when the battery was low. Healeys have the starting dog but no ability to start with a hand crank. I practiced the same clutch out and in neutral starting process on my Audi turbo. I replaced the clutch at 120,000 miles and when comparing the thickness to the original type replacement, it was only 40% used. I now have 160,000 on the second clutch and it is going strong. My new 5 speed Golf, however, requires the clutch to be depressed and in neutral for the starting procedure. I guess almost all new cars now have this as a starting procedure. I wonder how we are to get a new car, with a clutch, started and home when we loose the clutch. Any ideas? Fred 63 BJ7 From healey.nut at gmail.com Fri Jul 25 04:59:45 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:59:45 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Clutch In-Reply-To: <005701c8ee40$257436f0$6500a8c0@D10F7N31> References: <005701c8ee40$257436f0$6500a8c0@D10F7N31> Message-ID: Well, my BJ8 is going on 80K miles on its clutch, although I think she's starting to slip. That's pretty amazing considering the first 70K miles were driving it in hilly San Francisco and the next 10K miles have been driving it in very hilly Hong Kong. If I lived in the flats somewhere I'm sure I would have milked that clutch for at least 120K miles. I always start the motor with clutch out. And I never rev the motor to engage - I let the torque of the motor carry the car - so even my clutching is in and out very quick. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 6:21 PM, Fred Wescoe wrote: > My first car was a TR3 and I was told not to depress the clutch and to keep > it > in neutral. It would always crank faster that way. Of course it was the > only > way the hand crank worked and I did use that often when the battery was > low. > > Healeys have the starting dog but no ability to start with a hand crank. > > I practiced the same clutch out and in neutral starting process on my Audi > turbo. I replaced the clutch at 120,000 miles and when comparing the > thickness to the original type replacement, it was only 40% used. I now > have > 160,000 on the second clutch and it is going strong. > > My new 5 speed Golf, however, requires the clutch to be depressed and in > neutral for the starting procedure. I guess almost all new cars now have > this > as a starting procedure. > > I wonder how we are to get a new car, with a clutch, started and home when > we > loose the clutch. > > Any ideas? > > Fred > 63 BJ7 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From 62bt7 at prodigy.net Fri Jul 25 06:37:15 2008 From: 62bt7 at prodigy.net (62bt7) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 05:37:15 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] A Healey lap around Road America Message-ID: <005f01c8ee53$2d618080$a535480c@kirkgrbymz8g9u> Check this out boys and girls, www.vintagemotorsport.com A lap around Road America with Jeff Johnk in his yellow '59 100-6. Great sound, sounds like he's doing 10k revs. Also, some cool things going on in his rear view mirror, watch for another yellow Healey, etc. About 28mb download. Kirk Kvam From Warthodson at aol.com Fri Jul 25 07:09:07 2008 From: Warthodson at aol.com (Warthodson at aol.com) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:09:07 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Rubber Parts Message-ID: Richard, Based upon recommendations from this list, I purchased my windshield rubber from Healey Surgeons. They fit well. That doesn't mean that installation is easy! A friend purchased the windshield weather seals from two other suppliers & neither set fit. I had the same experience recently with the exhaust rubber mounts. I had four failures. Each lasted about one day. I eventually made two changes which seem to be working. I purchased mounts from Moss, which seem to have the metal attached to the rubber more securely. I also made an adaptor plate that allows me to mount two exhaust rubber mounts, back to back, which seems to be holding up. When my frustration level drops down to "Normal" I may try one Moss hanger & see if one is up to the job, but for now, I think I will leave well enough alone. Gary Hodson In a message dated 7/24/2008 10:18:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time, prattri at msn.com writes: List, I need to buy the rubber parts for windshield, wing windows and side windows. Can I get some recommendation as to who has the best parts? The rubber mounts for the exhaust system which I purchased only lasted one day before they separated. TIA Richard Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as warthodson at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) From rthrift at cox.net Fri Jul 25 09:32:53 2008 From: rthrift at cox.net (RThrift) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:32:53 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Clutch In-Reply-To: <005701c8ee40$257436f0$6500a8c0@D10F7N31> Message-ID: <20080725113253.SMEM4.12400.imail@fed1rmwml15> Wow! You just brought back a childhood memory I had totally forgotten for the past almost 50 years. My Dad had a TR3, and now that you point it out, I do seem to remember him starting it by hand cranking occasionally. I was so little at the time I probably thought all cars started that way; more recently I figured hand cranking went out WAY before my time. Cool! When it got totaled he bought the BT7 (which I now have). He preferred the TR3 Thanks! Richard Thrift p.s. on new manual trans cars, isn't there some means to override the interlock that prevents starting unless the clutch is depressed? My 2002 automatic won't go out of Park unless the brake pedal is depressed, but there IS a way to override that if necessary. (Most owners just won't RTFM and so probably won't know about it even though they see the covered button every time they get in the car.) But then the modern approach would be "Don't drive the car if the clutch is out of commission, Fool! " so maybe the clutch pedal override is not provided. ---- Fred Wescoe wrote: My first car was a TR3 and I was told not to depress the clutch and to keep it in neutral. It would always crank faster that way. Of course it was the only way the hand crank worked and I did use that often when the battery was low. Healeys have the starting dog but no ability to start with a hand crank. ... I wonder how we are to get a new car, with a clutch, started and home when we loose the clutch. Any ideas? Fred 63 BJ7 From miklmal at mac.com Fri Jul 25 12:25:18 2008 From: miklmal at mac.com (Mike Maloney) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:25:18 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] reversing polarity 66 BJ8 Message-ID: I want to change my electrical system from positive ground to negative ground. Is there an idiot-proof instruction in available? Please steer me in the right direction. Thanx,Mike M-BJ8 From philritten at aol.com Fri Jul 25 13:55:31 2008 From: philritten at aol.com (Philip Rittenhouse) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:55:31 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] reversing polarity 66 BJ8 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am interested in doing the same on a 61 BT7. Thanks Sent from my iPhone On Jul 25, 2008, at 11:25 AM, Mike Maloney wrote: > I want to change my electrical system from positive ground to negative > ground. > Is there an idiot-proof instruction in available? > Please steer me in the right direction. > Thanx,Mike M-BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as philritten at aol.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From jstmorris at yahoo.com Fri Jul 25 14:56:33 2008 From: jstmorris at yahoo.com (J. Scott Morris) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:56:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] reversing polarity 66 BJ8 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <822132.72107.qm@web30305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Mike; Here are several articles regarding Polarity Reversal & Alternator Conversions. Enjoy!! --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada' '60 MkI BN7 & '62 MkII BT7 J. Scott Morris - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives --- On Fri, 7/25/08, Mike Maloney wrote: << I want to change my electrical system from positive ground to negative ground. Is there an idiot-proof instruction in available? Please steer me in the right direction. >> __________________________________________________________________ Instant Messaging, free SMS, sharing photos and more... Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger at http://ca.beta.messenger.yahoo.com/ [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a name of Alternator Conversion [articles].pdf] From Warthodson at aol.com Fri Jul 25 15:07:27 2008 From: Warthodson at aol.com (Warthodson at aol.com) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:07:27 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Transmission parts Message-ID: I have a BJ 7/8 part number question. My part book indicates that the BJ7 "gear-1st speed & 2nd speed synchronizer" is P/N 8G3013, W.S.E. use 8G3027. The book indicates that the BJ8 "gear-1st speed & 2nd speed synchronizer" is P/N 8G3014, W.S.E. use 8G3025. It does not appear that the BJ7 & 8 parts are interchangeable & I also have an old table of transmission part numbers that states the BJ7 & 8 gears are not interchangeable with the exception of reverse gear. I cannot find any mention of part 8G3029 in the parts book, however this part number appears on the Internet in numerous places as being a "gear-1st speed & 2nd speed synchronizer" for both a BJ7 & 8. Can someone clarify the above for me? Thanks, Gary Hodson **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) From Warthodson at aol.com Fri Jul 25 15:14:36 2008 From: Warthodson at aol.com (Warthodson at aol.com) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:14:36 EDT Subject: [Healeys] reversing polarity 66 BJ8 Message-ID: It is my understanding, based upon recent postings, when reversing the polarity, it is essential that your overdrive is not engaged or you will surely destroy it. I am sure I read that. Gary Hodson In a message dated 7/25/2008 1:28:50 P.M. Central Daylight Time, miklmal at mac.com writes: I want to change my electrical system from positive ground to negative ground. Is there an idiot-proof instruction in available? Please steer me in the right direction. Thanx,Mike M-BJ8 Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as warthodson at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) From gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com Fri Jul 25 15:34:28 2008 From: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com (Richard Collins) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:34:28 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Tonneau covers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Looks like I have a four seat tonneau cover and a folded soft top cover which doesn't work on my 2 seat BN7; Both are black and in good shape. Prior owner included them with car. If interested to swap, let me know off line and I can send photos; Of no use to me obviously; Richard of KY 60 BN7> From: Editorgary at aol.com> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:33:54 -0400> To: healeys at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Tonneau covers> > In a message dated 7/18/08 11:05:55 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net > writes:> > > > Someone> > > mentioned it might be for a 2 seater. Would anyone out there like to trade> > > me for a 4 seat cover?> > > > The back of the two-seat tonneau is completely different from the > four-seater. Two seater has only four snaps and two turn-locks, plus two brackets that > slip under chrome clips on the shroud; four-seater has about a zillion snaps > that fasten around the edge of the cockpit rails.> Cheers> Gary> > > **************> Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today.> > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)> _______________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > Healeys at autox.team.net> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys> > You are subscribed as gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com> > http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live for mobile, your contacts travel with you. http://www.windowslive.com/mobile/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_mobile_0720 08 From healey3000bn7 at yahoo.com Fri Jul 25 16:15:47 2008 From: healey3000bn7 at yahoo.com (Carlos Cruz) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:15:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Where have all the Friday Funnies Gone? Message-ID: <538898.41767.qm@web50009.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Say it ain't so Lucy... It's 3:15 PST so odds are all the old farts on the east coast are probably asleep by now. I don't think I've seen one Friday Funny on the list today. I can't believe it. The one day a week I look forward to having something more than carpeting tires, figuring out what to do with my clutch or changing my car's positive attitude to negative. So let me see if I can bring a smile to your face before your head hits the pillow... -------------------------------- I was driving my Healey last night on the back roads in the foothills of the Cascades. There wasn't a soul around when suddenly the sky clouded above my head and a booming voice, said, 'Because you have tried to be faithful to me in all ways, I will grant you one wish.' I pulled over immediately and said, 'Build a bridge to Hawaii so I can drive my Healey over anytime I want.' The voice said, 'Your request is materialistic. Think of the enormous challenges for that kind of undertaking: the supports required reaching the bottom of the Pacific and the concrete and steel it would take! It will nearly exhaust several natural resources. I can do it, but it is hard for me to justify your desire for worldly things. Take a little more time and think of something that could possibly help mankind.' I got back in the car and drove for about 20 more miles then pulled over again. I looked up to the sky and said, 'Lord, I wish that I and all men could understand women. I want to know how she feels inside, what she's thinking when she gives me the silent treatment, why she cries, what she really means when she says nothing's wrong, and how I can make a woman truly happy.' The voice said back to me, 'You want two lanes or four on that bridge?' Happy Friday Guys! Cheers, Carlos Cruz From frogeye at porterscustom.com Fri Jul 25 16:27:04 2008 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (Dave Porter) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:27:04 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] FW: BRAZILIAN BEER AD Message-ID: <20080725222655.3B53318786F@autox.team.net> _____ This is really cool-don't know how they do it, but pretty funny. Subject: Fw: BRAZILIAN BEER AD 1. GO TO THE FOLLOWING SITE: www.tatuagemdaboa.com.br/ 2. TYPE YOUR FIRST NAME ON THE 1st LINE 3. TYPE YOUR LAST NAME ON THE 2nd LINE (Skip your e-mail address.) 4. Click on 'Vizualizar' and watch what happens .... & don't ask me how they do that. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.6/1539 - Release Date: 7/7/2008 6:35 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1572 - Release Date: 7/25/2008 6:51 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1572 - Release Date: 7/25/2008 6:51 AM From frogeye at porterscustom.com Fri Jul 25 16:28:09 2008 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (Dave Porter) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:28:09 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] FW: BRAZILIAN BEER AD Message-ID: <20080725222757.F2EF0187884@autox.team.net> Ok-I screwed this one up-if you haven't watched it yet-put your name in the first line, and your friend's name in second box, not your last name- Shoulda paid more attention before forwarding. Still funny This is really cool-don't know how they do it, but pretty funny. Subject: Fw: BRAZILIAN BEER AD 1. GO TO THE FOLLOWING SITE: www.tatuagemdaboa.com.br/ 2. TYPE YOUR FIRST NAME ON THE 1st LINE 3. TYPE YOUR LAST NAME ON THE 2nd LINE (Skip your e-mail address.) 4. Click on 'Vizualizar' and watch what happens .... & don't ask me how they do that. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.6/1539 - Release Date: 7/7/2008 6:35 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1572 - Release Date: 7/25/2008 6:51 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1572 - Release Date: 7/25/2008 6:51 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1572 - Release Date: 7/25/2008 6:51 AM From healey.nut at gmail.com Fri Jul 25 17:57:14 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 07:57:14 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Clutch In-Reply-To: <20080725113253.SMEM4.12400.imail@fed1rmwml15> References: <005701c8ee40$257436f0$6500a8c0@D10F7N31> <20080725113253.SMEM4.12400.imail@fed1rmwml15> Message-ID: Richard - I know that if one gets past the dowdy looks and four banger note, that many owners of TR2/TR3s swear by them. I think it's because of the roadster doors, but put on a true modern car (unlike the TC)make the car very fun to drive. My mom, when we lived in Japan in the late sixties, had a Honda S800 convertible (with factory hardtop!). I wish we still had that one - a car with true F1 technology for daily use to get the shopping done. Cheers, Alan On 7/25/08, RThrift wrote: > Wow! You just brought back a childhood memory I had totally forgotten for > the past almost 50 years. My Dad had a TR3, and now that you point it out, > I do seem to remember him starting it by hand cranking occasionally. I was > so little at the time I probably thought all cars started that way; more > recently I figured hand cranking went out WAY before my time. Cool! > > When it got totaled he bought the BT7 (which I now have). He preferred the > TR3 > > Thanks! > Richard Thrift > p.s. on new manual trans cars, isn't there some means to override the > interlock that prevents starting unless the clutch is depressed? My 2002 > automatic won't go out of Park unless the brake pedal is depressed, but > there IS a way to override that if necessary. (Most owners just won't RTFM > and so probably won't know about it even though they see the covered button > every time they get in the car.) But then the modern approach would be > "Don't drive the car if the clutch is out of commission, Fool! " so maybe > the clutch pedal override is not provided. > > > ---- Fred Wescoe wrote: > My first car was a TR3 and I was told not to depress the clutch and to keep > it > in neutral. It would always crank faster that way. Of course it was the > only > way the hand crank worked and I did use that often when the battery was low. > > Healeys have the starting dog but no ability to start with a hand crank. > ... > I wonder how we are to get a new car, with a clutch, started and home when > we loose the clutch. Any ideas? > > Fred > 63 BJ7 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Fri Jul 25 18:02:02 2008 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Leonard Hartnett) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:02:02 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Where have all the Friday Funnies Gone? In-Reply-To: <538898.41767.qm@web50009.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <538898.41767.qm@web50009.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <18BDF06C12BA425682C052E67B57144B@LeonardPC> Carlos: I will try to be one of the first to cheer you up. A man appeared before St. Peter at the pearly gates. "Have you ever done anything of particular merit?", St. Peter asked. "Well, I can think or one thing, the man offered. Once, on a trip to the Black Hills out in South Dakota, I came upon a gang of bikers who were threatening a young woman. I directed them to leave her alone but they wouldn't listen. So, I approached the largest and most heavily tattooed biker and smacked him on the head, kicked his bike over, ripped out his nose ring and threw it on the ground. I yelled, Now back off or you'll answer to me!". St. Peter was impressed. "When did this happen?" "Just a couple of minutes ago." (The Other) Len Vacaville, California, USA 1967 3000 MKIII, HBJ8L39031 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carlos Cruz" To: "Healey List" Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 3:15 PM Subject: [Healeys] Where have all the Friday Funnies Gone? > Say it ain't so Lucy... > > It's 3:15 PST so odds are all the old farts on the east coast are > probably asleep by now. I don't think I've seen one Friday Funny on the > list today. ..... From healey.nut at gmail.com Fri Jul 25 18:43:29 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 08:43:29 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Steering - bearing race repair? Message-ID: Hi All - I asked this on the Jag-lovers forum but they aren't as technically minded as everyone here, so I will ask the question again here. My question is somewhat universal. I have a '59 Jag MkIX which is in great shape. That being said the power steering box needs a little work. I pulled the worm gear out of the Power steering box and the only thing that is wrong with it is the gear has a ball bearing race on it which the race is worn from when the car drives in the straight ahead position. All that needs to be fixed is the bearing race. It needs a little bit of material to be built up in it, than lathed down and then either nitrided or some other sort of hardening process like that. I took it to the local HK crankshaft guy but he couldn't get his metal sprayer equipment in tight enough on the race to fix it. Is there anyone out there that you know of that can do work like this, and do it properly? Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 From healey.nut at gmail.com Fri Jul 25 18:47:47 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 08:47:47 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] reversing polarity 66 BJ8 In-Reply-To: <822132.72107.qm@web30305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <822132.72107.qm@web30305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Guys - I didn't get Scotts article, but just be careful that with the BJ8 you will have to reverse the polarity of the tachometer. The early BJ8s tachs are a little complicated and the conversion is best done by an instrument specialist like Mo Ma. The later BJ8 tachs can be fixed by a little bit of soldering work, but again if unsure send it to a tach specialist. Other than that the polarity reversal is a really easy procedure and will take you no more than the 15 minutes it takes to turn the battery around and charge the magnets on the generator. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 4:56 AM, J. Scott Morris wrote: > Hi Mike; Here are several articles regarding Polarity Reversal & > Alternator > Conversions. > Enjoy!! --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada' '60 MkI BN7 & '62 MkII > BT7 > J. Scott Morris - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives > > --- On Fri, 7/25/08, Mike Maloney wrote: << I want to > change > my electrical system from positive ground to negative ground. Is there an > idiot-proof instruction in available? Please steer me in the right > direction. > >> > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Instant Messaging, free SMS, sharing photos and more... Try the new Yahoo! > Canada Messenger at http://ca.beta.messenger.yahoo.com/ > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a > name of Alternator Conversion [articles].pdf] > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From healey.nut at gmail.com Fri Jul 25 18:49:05 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 08:49:05 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] reversing polarity 66 BJ8 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Gary - Reversing polarity won't have any affect on the OD. The OD solenoid will operate the same regardless of polarity. Best, Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 5:14 AM, wrote: > It is my understanding, based upon recent postings, when reversing the > polarity, it is essential that your overdrive is not engaged or you will > surely > destroy it. > I am sure I read that. > Gary Hodson From richchrysler at quickclic.net Fri Jul 25 19:30:38 2008 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:30:38 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] reversing polarity 66 BJ8 References: Message-ID: <00e801c8eebf$35c694b0$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> Alan, Gary did a Friday Funny of his own and you fell for it. Good one Gary! Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Seigrist" To: Cc: Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:49 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] reversing polarity 66 BJ8 > Gary - > Reversing polarity won't have any affect on the OD. The OD solenoid will > operate the same regardless of polarity. > > Best, > > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '64 BJ8 > > > On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 5:14 AM, wrote: > >> It is my understanding, based upon recent postings, when reversing the >> polarity, it is essential that your overdrive is not engaged or you will >> surely >> destroy it. >> I am sure I read that. >> Gary Hodson > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richchrysler at quickclic.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Fri Jul 25 20:02:42 2008 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 12:02:42 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] reversing polarity 66 BJ8 In-Reply-To: <00e801c8eebf$35c694b0$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> References: <00e801c8eebf$35c694b0$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> Message-ID: <5C48567989184F6B9A172ADE0C88926E@PatrickQuinnPC> G'day Surely if you reverse the polarity the overdrive will then work only in 1st, 2nd and reverse gears! It's Saturday in Australia. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+p_cquinn=tpg.com.au at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+p_cquinn=tpg.com.au at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rich C Sent: Saturday, 26 July 2008 11:31 AM To: Alan Seigrist; Warthodson at aol.com Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] reversing polarity 66 BJ8 Alan, Gary did a Friday Funny of his own and you fell for it. Good one Gary! Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Seigrist" To: Cc: Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:49 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] reversing polarity 66 BJ8 > Gary - > Reversing polarity won't have any affect on the OD. The OD solenoid will > operate the same regardless of polarity. > > Best, > > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '64 BJ8 > > > On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 5:14 AM, wrote: > >> It is my understanding, based upon recent postings, when reversing the >> polarity, it is essential that your overdrive is not engaged or you will >> surely >> destroy it. >> I am sure I read that. >> Gary Hodson From richard.ewald at gmail.com Fri Jul 25 20:40:06 2008 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:40:06 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] reversing polarity 66 BJ8 In-Reply-To: <5C48567989184F6B9A172ADE0C88926E@PatrickQuinnPC> References: <00e801c8eebf$35c694b0$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> <5C48567989184F6B9A172ADE0C88926E@PatrickQuinnPC> Message-ID: No, No, no. It becomes an underdrive. On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Patrick and Caroline Quinn < p_cquinn at tpg.com.au> wrote: > G'day > > Surely if you reverse the polarity the overdrive will then work only in > 1st, > 2nd and reverse gears! > > It's Saturday in Australia. > > Hoo Roo > > Patrick Quinn > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces+p_cquinn=tpg.com.au at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces+p_cquinn =tpg.com.au@ > autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > Rich C > Sent: Saturday, 26 July 2008 11:31 AM > To: Alan Seigrist; Warthodson at aol.com > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] reversing polarity 66 BJ8 > > Alan, > > Gary did a Friday Funny of his own and you fell for it. > Good one Gary! > > Rich Chrysler > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan Seigrist" > To: > Cc: > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:49 PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] reversing polarity 66 BJ8 > > > > Gary - > > Reversing polarity won't have any affect on the OD. The OD solenoid will > > operate the same regardless of polarity. > > > > Best, > > > > Alan > > > > '52 A90 > > '53 BN1 > > '64 BJ8 > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 5:14 AM, wrote: > > > >> It is my understanding, based upon recent postings, when reversing the > >> polarity, it is essential that your overdrive is not engaged or you > will > >> surely > >> destroy it. > >> I am sure I read that. > >> Gary Hodson > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richard.ewald at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From ktaylor at y7mail.com Fri Jul 25 21:17:37 2008 From: ktaylor at y7mail.com (Keith Taylor) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 20:17:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Ritchard Message-ID: <109273.59559.qm@web46106.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> My overdrive is already under my BN2 Doe's that mean my car is already converted B Keith Taylor WAMBERAL OZ BN1 BN2 100M........if I ever finish them Find a better answer, faster with the new Yahoo!7 Search. www.yahoo7.com.au/search From pennell at cox.net Fri Jul 25 21:20:33 2008 From: pennell at cox.net (pennell at cox.net) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:20:33 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Late Friday Funny Message-ID: <20080725232033.YCALZ.29315.imail@eastrmwml37> Hope this all come through. DEAR DIARY. DAY ONE I am all packed and ready to get on the cruise ship. I've packed all my pretty dresses and makeup. I'm really excited. _______________________________________________ DEAR DIARY. DAY TWO We spent the entire day at sea. It was beautiful and we saw some whales and dolphins. What a wonderful vacation this has started to be. I met the Captain today and he seems like a very nice man. _______________________________________________ DEAR DIARY. DAY THREE I spent some time in the pool today. I also did some shuffle boarding and hit some golf balls off the deck. The Captain invited me to join him at his table for dinner. I felt honored and we had a wonderful time. He is a very attractive and attentive gentleman. _______________________________________________ DEAR DIARY. DAY FOUR Went to the ship's casino ... did OK ... won about $80. The Captain invited me to have dinner with him in his state room. We had a luxurious meal complete with caviar and champagne. He asked me to stay the night but I declined. I told him there was no way I could be unfaithful to my husband. _______________________________________________ DEAR DIARY. DAY FIVE Went back to the pool today and got a little sunburned. I decided to go to the piano bar and spend the rest of the day inside . The Captain saw me and bought me a couple of drinks. He really is a charming gentleman! He again asked me to visit him for the night and again I declined. He told me that if I didn't come to his cabin for the night, he would sink the ship. I was appalled. DEAR DIARY. DAY SIX I saved 1600 lives today... Twice From healey.nut at gmail.com Fri Jul 25 23:11:33 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:11:33 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] reversing polarity 66 BJ8 In-Reply-To: References: <00e801c8eebf$35c694b0$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> <5C48567989184F6B9A172ADE0C88926E@PatrickQuinnPC> Message-ID: Unless of course you are in the Southern hemisphere, then it's right side up again. On 7/26/08, Richard Ewald wrote: > No, No, no. It becomes an underdrive. > > On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Patrick and Caroline Quinn < > p_cquinn at tpg.com.au> wrote: > >> G'day >> >> Surely if you reverse the polarity the overdrive will then work only in >> 1st, >> 2nd and reverse gears! >> >> It's Saturday in Australia. >> >> Hoo Roo >> >> Patrick Quinn >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: healeys-bounces+p_cquinn=tpg.com.au at autox.team.net >> [mailto:healeys-bounces+p_cquinn =tpg.com.au@ >> autox.team.net] On Behalf Of >> Rich C >> Sent: Saturday, 26 July 2008 11:31 AM >> To: Alan Seigrist; Warthodson at aol.com >> Cc: healeys at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] reversing polarity 66 BJ8 >> >> Alan, >> >> Gary did a Friday Funny of his own and you fell for it. >> Good one Gary! >> >> Rich Chrysler >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Alan Seigrist" >> To: >> Cc: >> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:49 PM >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] reversing polarity 66 BJ8 >> >> >> > Gary - >> > Reversing polarity won't have any affect on the OD. The OD solenoid >> > will >> > operate the same regardless of polarity. >> > >> > Best, >> > >> > Alan >> > >> > '52 A90 >> > '53 BN1 >> > '64 BJ8 >> > >> > >> > On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 5:14 AM, wrote: >> > >> >> It is my understanding, based upon recent postings, when reversing the >> >> polarity, it is essential that your overdrive is not engaged or you >> will >> >> surely >> >> destroy it. >> >> I am sure I read that. >> >> Gary Hodson >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as richard.ewald at gmail.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> > -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 From healey.nut at gmail.com Fri Jul 25 23:15:19 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:15:19 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] reversing polarity 66 BJ8 In-Reply-To: <00e801c8eebf$35c694b0$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> References: <00e801c8eebf$35c694b0$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> Message-ID: Rich - My problem is I don't have a sense of humor. Unfortunately, I sold it to this Nigerian who promised me 16 million dollars. The Nigerians - they're a funny lot, really. Alan On 7/26/08, Rich C wrote: > Alan, > > Gary did a Friday Funny of his own and you fell for it. > Good one Gary! > > Rich Chrysler > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan Seigrist" > To: > Cc: > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:49 PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] reversing polarity 66 BJ8 > > >> Gary - >> Reversing polarity won't have any affect on the OD. The OD solenoid will >> operate the same regardless of polarity. >> >> Best, >> >> Alan >> >> '52 A90 >> '53 BN1 >> '64 BJ8 >> >> >> On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 5:14 AM, wrote: >> >>> It is my understanding, based upon recent postings, when reversing the >>> polarity, it is essential that your overdrive is not engaged or you will >>> surely >>> destroy it. >>> I am sure I read that. >>> Gary Hodson >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as richchrysler at quickclic.net >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> > > -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 From miklmal at mac.com Sat Jul 26 04:53:25 2008 From: miklmal at mac.com (Mike Maloney) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 06:53:25 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Reversing Polarity-66 BJ8 Message-ID: <55BA6B89-EBDA-400A-B9CC-ED7EBA1E3B78@mac.com> To all who contributed to my request, Thanx much for all of your input! Even I,hopefully,will accomplish this feat with little difficulty. Thanx again, Mike Maloney 66 HLY-HBJ8L32990 From donyarber at earthlink.net Sat Jul 26 05:04:07 2008 From: donyarber at earthlink.net (Don Yarber) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 06:04:07 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] I think humor is a matter of opinion. Message-ID: <007601c8ef0f$53dfc160$8258e104@yourc8bh3jaglt> This one from Dan White was funny to me: Since following this particular topic I tried starting the Healey today in neutral without depressing the clutch (I have always depressed the clutch in the past). The engine turned over a lot easier. I am now a non-depressed convert. Dan Author of "Bodies and Beaches" and "Corpses and Canyons" Find news about my books at www.kipyardleymysteries.com From fredwescoe at windstream.net Sat Jul 26 06:06:23 2008 From: fredwescoe at windstream.net (Fred Wescoe) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 08:06:23 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Synthetic Oils Message-ID: <007801c8ef18$05f2f040$6500a8c0@D10F7N31> I have wondered about the sensibility or value of changing to synthetic oils. When compared to normal oils, do the synthetic oils really allow less engine wear, remove more deposits allowing for the longer change intervals and are they really more fuel efficient? Are they more beneficial to the engines. Is one better than another? I have looked at various web sites and I find just the usual company hype of their own products and no hard evidence to support their claims. I could not find anything comparing synthetics to one another or to conventional oils. Both of my owners manuals, Volkswagen and Audi, say specifically that use of synthetic oils will not affect the new car warrantee so the synthetic oils are manufacturer approved. Both of these cars are relatively new cars with less than 16,000 miles on each. I don't believe changing the Healey to synthetic oil is sensible but is it beneficial to change my other newer and lower mileage cars to synthetic? Are there recommended or specific filters for the synthetic oils? What is the collective experiences and wisdom of the list? Fred 63 BJ7 From pieterscheen at optusnet.com.au Sat Jul 26 06:38:23 2008 From: pieterscheen at optusnet.com.au (pieter scheenhouwer) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 22:38:23 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Synthetic Oils In-Reply-To: <007801c8ef18$05f2f040$6500a8c0@D10F7N31> Message-ID: <200807261238.m6QCcMsR002075@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> Fred, A while ago an Australian magazine "Hot Fours" took a modern turbo four cylinder car and after tuning it and doing a complete oil and filter change using "regular" oils put the car on a dyno. They then changed ALL the oil (engine, gearbox and dif) for the appropriate synthetic and ran the car for 100km before putting it back on the same dyno. They measured and an increase in rear wheel horsepower in the order of 6% and they claimed the temp/humidity etc where the same. Still don't think I would put it in my BJ7 but I did run full synthetics in my Nissan 200sx turbo for 6 years and had no problems. Cheers Pieter -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+pieterscheen=optusnet.com.au at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+pieterscheen=optusnet.com.au at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Fred Wescoe Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 10:06 PM To: Healey List Subject: [Healeys] Synthetic Oils I have wondered about the sensibility or value of changing to synthetic oils. When compared to normal oils, do the synthetic oils really allow less engine wear, remove more deposits allowing for the longer change intervals and are they really more fuel efficient? Are they more beneficial to the engines. Is one better than another? I have looked at various web sites and I find just the usual company hype of their own products and no hard evidence to support their claims. I could not find anything comparing synthetics to one another or to conventional oils. Both of my owners manuals, Volkswagen and Audi, say specifically that use of synthetic oils will not affect the new car warrantee so the synthetic oils are manufacturer approved. Both of these cars are relatively new cars with less than 16,000 miles on each. I don't believe changing the Healey to synthetic oil is sensible but is it beneficial to change my other newer and lower mileage cars to synthetic? Are there recommended or specific filters for the synthetic oils? What is the collective experiences and wisdom of the list? Fred 63 BJ7 Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as pieterscheen at optusnet.com.au http://www.team.net/archive From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Jul 26 06:56:16 2008 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 05:56:16 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Synthetic Oils In-Reply-To: <007801c8ef18$05f2f040$6500a8c0@D10F7N31> References: <007801c8ef18$05f2f040$6500a8c0@D10F7N31> Message-ID: <488B1EF0.8070502@comcast.net> Hi Fred, You'll get lots of opinions (the List has been slow lately ;). I've done some research and given it a lot of thought and have come to the following conclusion: if you drive a lot of highway miles--say, 2K+ a month (not likely with a Healey)--then synthetic would be cost effective and labor-reducing with extended oil changes (6K+ miles). If not--i.e. you do more "city" driving and put less than 2K miles a month on your car--then use mineral oil and change more often (3K miles). I do use synthetic oil in the gearbox and differential of my Healeys, however. My new Mustang calls for semi-synthetic (5W-20!)--which is a reasonable compromise and I can get it for $2/qt--and 7,500 mile oil changes (no way I'll go that long--I do mostly city driving with it). Bottom line is mineral oil and synthetic both accumulate moisture and acidic compounds, especially from city driving (short trips). Best to change a "city" car's oil every 3-4 months regardless of miles, although I go longer with my Healey because I do almost all highway miles in it. BTW--whatever you think of WalMart--they have the best price on oil that I've found. bs Fred Wescoe wrote: > I have wondered about the sensibility or value of changing to synthetic oils. > > When compared to normal oils, do the synthetic oils really allow less engine > wear, remove more deposits allowing for the longer change intervals and are > they really more fuel efficient? Are they more beneficial to the engines. Is > one better than another? > > I have looked at various web sites and I find just the usual company hype of > their own products and no hard evidence to support their claims. I could not > find anything comparing synthetics to one another or to conventional oils. > > Both of my owners manuals, Volkswagen and Audi, say specifically that use of > synthetic oils will not affect the new car warrantee so the synthetic oils are > manufacturer approved. Both of these cars are relatively new cars with less > than 16,000 miles on each. > > I don't believe changing the Healey to synthetic oil is sensible but is it > beneficial to change my other newer and lower mileage cars to synthetic? Are > there recommended or specific filters for the synthetic oils? > > What is the collective experiences and wisdom of the list? > > Fred > 63 BJ7 > > > -- ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Jul 26 06:58:48 2008 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 05:58:48 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Synthetic Oils In-Reply-To: <200807261238.m6QCcMsR002075@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> References: <200807261238.m6QCcMsR002075@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <488B1F88.8070002@comcast.net> Pieter, Which "modern turbo four cylinder" car has rear wheel drive? bs pieter scheenhouwer wrote: > Fred, > A while ago an Australian magazine "Hot Fours" took a modern turbo four > cylinder car and after tuning it and doing a complete oil and filter change > using "regular" oils put the car on a dyno. They then changed ALL the oil > (engine, gearbox and dif) for the appropriate synthetic and ran the car for > 100km before putting it back on the same dyno. They measured and an increase > in rear wheel horsepower in the order of 6% and they claimed the > temp/humidity etc where the same. > Still don't think I would put it in my BJ7 but I did run full synthetics in > my Nissan 200sx turbo for 6 years and had no problems. > Cheers > Pieter > > ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From Warthodson at aol.com Sat Jul 26 07:09:55 2008 From: Warthodson at aol.com (Warthodson at aol.com) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 09:09:55 EDT Subject: [Healeys] reversing polarity 66 BJ8 Message-ID: Alan, Sorry, I was trying to make a joke! It was Friday. Gary Hodson In a message dated 7/25/2008 7:49:14 P.M. Central Daylight Time, healey.nut at gmail.com writes: Gary - Reversing polarity won't have any affect on the OD. The OD solenoid will operate the same regardless of polarity. Best, Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 5:14 AM, <_Warthodson at aol.com_ (mailto:Warthodson at aol.com) > wrote: It is my understanding, based upon recent postings, when reversing the polarity, it is essential that your overdrive is not engaged or you will surely destroy it. I am sure I read that. Gary Hodson **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) From cfrazer at jcomm.uoregon.edu Sat Jul 26 11:40:47 2008 From: cfrazer at jcomm.uoregon.edu (Charlie Frazer) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 10:40:47 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Reversing Polarity-66 BJ8 In-Reply-To: <55BA6B89-EBDA-400A-B9CC-ED7EBA1E3B78@mac.com> References: <55BA6B89-EBDA-400A-B9CC-ED7EBA1E3B78@mac.com> Message-ID: Mike, Some, but not all, points type fuel pumps are polarity sensitive. I believe ALL electronic fuel pumps are polarity sensitive. If you reverse polarity on one of the older points type pumps that is sensitive it will run erratically rather than not at all. I don't know how to tell the difference between the pumps but others on the list may. I believe there is a different diode for + and - ground. Charlie On Jul 26, 2008, at 3:53 AM, Mike Maloney wrote: To all who contributed to my request, Thanx much for all of your input! Even I,hopefully,will accomplish this feat with little difficulty. Thanx again, Mike Maloney 66 HLY-HBJ8L32990 Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as cfrazer at jcomm.uoregon.edu http://www.team.net/archive From Healey100M at gmail.com Sat Jul 26 12:43:21 2008 From: Healey100M at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 12:43:21 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel Problems Message-ID: Hi list, we're on a month long tour of the Pacific Northwest, Banff/ Lake Louise and now Yellowstone & Tetons before we head back to the east coast and having a problem with the BJ8. With approx. 4.5 - 5.5 gallons left in the tank I start to get a lot of sputtering from lack of fuel on steep upgrades. A couple time the BJ8 quit but as soon as I fill it up it is fine regardless of hill grade. Today I actually ran out of fuel with 5.5 gallons in the tank on a flat level stretch of highway. Coasted into a gas station, turned the ignition back on and the car started right up. It is hot outside (85 degrees) and we are at altitude approx. 7000 ft. Carbs are balanced and leaned out slightly because of the altitude. They seem to be in good adjustment. Idle is good & it runs very strong when full of fuel. Car is not running hot. Tried 2 different gas caps, no help. The car has 2 fuel pumps, doesn't make a difference which I use. Happens with either. Anyone have an idea what's going on? TIA Randy Randy Hicks '56 100M '62 BN7 MkII '65 BJ8 '53 MGTD Healey100M at gmail.com From qualitas.jack at gmail.com Sat Jul 26 13:06:40 2008 From: qualitas.jack at gmail.com (Jack Feldman) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:06:40 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Reversing Polarity Literature Message-ID: <48720d20807261206v71de1023l98be5aca31077b10@mail.gmail.com> There are instructions on reversing polarity in the back of Moss' MGB catalog. It addresses the issue of modifying the electronic tach, and the effect of the reverse polarity on such things as the starter, wiper motors, etc. There is no effect on those motors, and instructions for polarizing the generator are also included. Wish I had known that in 1959. Jack 60 BT7 (Converted when I bought it) 59 MGC 72 MGBGT From insptwo at msn.com Sat Jul 26 13:11:22 2008 From: insptwo at msn.com (insptwo at msn.com) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:11:22 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel Problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Randy: If you look at where the fuel line connects to the tank, when you are going up a steep incline, you are actually running out of gas when you are low on gas, because the gas is going to the rear of the tank and now you have no gas at the outlet. Used to have that problem in the sixties with a falcon wagon up in Pennsylvania. Occasionally, had to turn around and BACK UP the hill. Bill BJ7 > From: Healey100M at gmail.com> To: healeys at autox.team.net> Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 12:43:21 -0600> Subject: [Healeys] Fuel Problems> > Hi list, we're on a month long tour of the Pacific Northwest, Banff/ > Lake Louise and now Yellowstone & Tetons before we head back to the > east coast and having a problem with the BJ8.> > With approx. 4.5 - 5.5 gallons left in the tank I start to get a lot > of sputtering from lack of fuel on steep upgrades. A couple time the > BJ8 quit but as soon as I fill it up it is fine regardless of hill > grade. Today I actually ran out of fuel with 5.5 gallons in the tank > on a flat level stretch of highway. Coasted into a gas station, turned > the ignition back on and the car started right up.> > It is hot outside (85 degrees) and we are at altitude approx. 7000 ft.> > Carbs are balanced and leaned out slightly because of the altitude. > They seem to be in good adjustment. Idle is good & it runs very strong > when full of fuel. Car is not running hot. Tried 2 different gas caps, > no help.> > The car has 2 fuel pumps, doesn't make a difference which I use. > Happens with either.> > Anyone have an idea what's going on?> > TIA> > Randy> > Randy Hicks> '56 100M> '62 BN7 MkII> '65 BJ8> '53 MGTD> Healey100M at gmail.com> From Awgertoo at aol.com Sat Jul 26 13:23:25 2008 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:23:25 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Fuel Problems Message-ID: Perhaps there is a crack or hole in the pickup tube allowing the pump to suck air? Best--Michael Oritt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ In a message dated 7/26/2008 3:00:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Healey100M at gmail.com writes: Today I actually ran out of fuel with 5.5 gallons in the tank on a flat level stretch of highway. Coasted into a gas station, turned the ignition back on and the car started right up. The car has 2 fuel pumps, doesn't make a difference which I use. Happens with either. Anyone have an idea what's going on? **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) From tomfelts at windstream.net Sat Jul 26 14:08:56 2008 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (tomfelts at windstream.net) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 16:08:56 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel Problems Message-ID: <20080726200856.JSJN13398.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> Is there a filter inside the tank? Might be clogged up----works sometimes sometimes not. > > From: Awgertoo at aol.com > Date: 2008/07/26 Sat PM 03:23:25 EDT > To: Healey100M at gmail.com, healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fuel Problems > > Perhaps there is a crack or hole in the pickup tube allowing the pump to > suck air? > > Best--Michael Oritt > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > In a message dated 7/26/2008 3:00:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > Healey100M at gmail.com writes: > > Today I actually ran out of fuel with 5.5 gallons in the tank > on a flat level stretch of highway. Coasted into a gas station, turned > the ignition back on and the car started right up. > > The car has 2 fuel pumps, doesn't make a difference which I use. > Happens with either. > > Anyone have an idea what's going on? > > > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From scthomton at yahoo.com Sat Jul 26 15:22:00 2008 From: scthomton at yahoo.com (Steve Thomton) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:22:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Need some help on mini-starter Message-ID: <487578.65178.qm@web50609.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Anyone with a mini-starter installed in a 6 cylinder Healey....do you have any pictures of it in the car? The starter came with a generic setting (it has a large range of potential installation settings), I need to know what the orientation of the mini-starter is to clear everything. Any help is appreciated!! Steve Thomton 1963 BJ7 From Jwhlyadv at aol.com Sat Jul 26 15:57:00 2008 From: Jwhlyadv at aol.com (Jwhlyadv at aol.com) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:57:00 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Robbie Cook's son Message-ID: Received the following email from Robbie Cook of the Nashville Austin Healey Club. Robbie's young son Will has received the following diagnosis. Robbie is not on our email list but I know he has many, many friends that are. Robbie can be reached at _rcook_vw at email.com_ (mailto:rcook_vw at email.com) and his mailing address will be in the AHCA Membership Book. I am sure the family would appreciate a note of prayer and support. Jim Werner I just wanted all of you to know that Will Cook's brain tumor is growing again after 6 months of no growth. We will know more about treatment on Monday. Please keep him in your prayers. Robbie **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) From healey.nut at gmail.com Sat Jul 26 17:21:27 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 07:21:27 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel Problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If you have added an inline fuel filter it sounds like it is plugged up, probably with rust from your tank. Replace the fuel filter - it wil cause this exact problem. Alan On 7/27/08, Randy Hicks wrote: > Hi list, we're on a month long tour of the Pacific Northwest, Banff/ > Lake Louise and now Yellowstone & Tetons before we head back to the > east coast and having a problem with the BJ8. > > With approx. 4.5 - 5.5 gallons left in the tank I start to get a lot > of sputtering from lack of fuel on steep upgrades. A couple time the > BJ8 quit but as soon as I fill it up it is fine regardless of hill > grade. Today I actually ran out of fuel with 5.5 gallons in the tank > on a flat level stretch of highway. Coasted into a gas station, turned > the ignition back on and the car started right up. > > It is hot outside (85 degrees) and we are at altitude approx. 7000 ft. > > Carbs are balanced and leaned out slightly because of the altitude. > They seem to be in good adjustment. Idle is good & it runs very strong > when full of fuel. Car is not running hot. Tried 2 different gas caps, > no help. > > The car has 2 fuel pumps, doesn't make a difference which I use. > Happens with either. > > Anyone have an idea what's going on? > > TIA > > Randy > > Randy Hicks > '56 100M > '62 BN7 MkII > '65 BJ8 > '53 MGTD > Healey100M at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 From pennell at cox.net Sat Jul 26 18:36:15 2008 From: pennell at cox.net (pennell at cox.net) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 20:36:15 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel Problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080726203615.79010.36066.imail@eastrmwml37> Randy, Sounds like a clog in the tank. With low fuel the trash builds up at the pickup in the tank. When you fill up the trash is suspended and not a problem for a while. That's my opinion and I am sticking to it!!!! Keith Pennell > Hi list, we're on a month long tour of the Pacific Northwest, Banff/ > Lake Louise and now Yellowstone & Tetons before we head back to the > east coast and having a problem with the BJ8. > > With approx. 4.5 - 5.5 gallons left in the tank I start to get a lot > of sputtering from lack of fuel on steep upgrades. A couple time the > BJ8 quit but as soon as I fill it up it is fine regardless of hill > grade. Today I actually ran out of fuel with 5.5 gallons in the tank > on a flat level stretch of highway. Coasted into a gas station, turned > the ignition back on and the car started right up. > > It is hot outside (85 degrees) and we are at altitude approx. 7000 ft. > > Carbs are balanced and leaned out slightly because of the altitude. > They seem to be in good adjustment. Idle is good & it runs very strong > when full of fuel. Car is not running hot. Tried 2 different gas caps, > no help. > > The car has 2 fuel pumps, doesn't make a difference which I use. > Happens with either. > > Anyone have an idea what's going on? > > TIA > > Randy From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Sat Jul 26 20:19:07 2008 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (James Shope) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 19:19:07 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] fuel problems Message-ID: <003b01c8ef8f$265dea70$5201a8c0@Jim> i vote with alan. here in vegas we get a lot of grotty fuel. when i start the long climb back to the old folks home, i can tell instantly that i am having a filter problem, because it starts to fart and beller and i have to creep on home. change the filter and all is fine for a while till i get some bad gas again. going downhill i never notice any problem, and amount of fuel is irrelevant. healeymanjim From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Sat Jul 26 20:23:22 2008 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (James Shope) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 19:23:22 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] synthetic oils Message-ID: <004601c8ef8f$bdd23190$5201a8c0@Jim> has anyone other than me had any problem using synthetic oils and having all the seals and gaskets start to leak. modern cars are designed for synthetics, but my old healey was not happy with synthetic oil. BTW, i had no leaks i my bn6 trans until i put in redline and now it is oozing. could be coincidence, or not. anyone else notice this? healeymanjim. From eschulz at frontiernet.net Sat Jul 26 21:50:44 2008 From: eschulz at frontiernet.net (Elton Schulz) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 23:50:44 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Radio antenna Message-ID: <006c01c8ef9b$f2b88f10$bf5d6546@655vb01> Fellow listers, The radio antenna for my vintage radio is mounted on the right front fender of my BJ7. I'm not sure I like it's location. I think it detracts from the look of the car. Since I'm restoring the car, I'm considering closing the hole in the fender and relocating the antenna so it's not so obtrusive. Where have you mounted your antenna on your cars? Any options out there where the antenna does not protrude from the sheet metal (i.e. more invisible)? Elton BJ7 in progress From healey.nut at gmail.com Sat Jul 26 22:02:28 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 12:02:28 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Radio antenna In-Reply-To: <006c01c8ef9b$f2b88f10$bf5d6546@655vb01> References: <006c01c8ef9b$f2b88f10$bf5d6546@655vb01> Message-ID: Elton - Check out any decent online hot rodders shop, they all sell hideaway antennas. The downside of this is the reception may not be as good. Here's a couple of samples I found: http://autoloc.carshopinc.com/product_info.php/products_id/9206/HAB http://www.ecshylites.citymax.com/page/page/761353.htm I reckon a mounting inside the rear bumper would be pretty good, or possibly under the padded dash if you can fit it under there somewhere. Of course the alternative is to go with 12V powered computer speakers and your iPod then you won't have to deal with any of this annoying wiring business. Best, Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Elton Schulz wrote: > Fellow listers, > The radio antenna for my vintage radio is mounted on the right front fender > of > my BJ7. I'm not sure I like it's location. I think it detracts from the > look > of the car. Since I'm restoring the car, I'm considering closing the hole > in > the fender and relocating the antenna so it's not so obtrusive. Where have > you > mounted your antenna on your cars? Any options out there where the antenna > does not protrude from the sheet metal (i.e. more invisible)? > Elton > BJ7 in progress > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From bn1 at pacbell.net Sat Jul 26 23:13:41 2008 From: bn1 at pacbell.net (Mr. Bill) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 22:13:41 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] synthetic oils In-Reply-To: <004601c8ef8f$bdd23190$5201a8c0@Jim> References: <004601c8ef8f$bdd23190$5201a8c0@Jim> Message-ID: <488C0405.6070300@pacbell.net> Jim, The same happened to a friend of mine in his early BN1 #484. Years ago he did an oil change to Mobile 1. He got up the next morning to find it all over his garage floor. That was enough for me to stay with Dino Oil. He's on this List. Maybe he'll chime in now with the whole story. Bill Barnett BN1M James Shope wrote: > has anyone other than me had any problem using synthetic oils and having all > the seals and gaskets start to leak. modern cars are designed for synthetics, > but my old healey was not happy with synthetic oil. BTW, i had no leaks i my > bn6 trans until i put in redline and now it is oozing. could be coincidence, > or not. anyone else notice this? healeymanjim. > _______________________________________________ From britishcars at shaw.ca Sat Jul 26 23:15:28 2008 From: britishcars at shaw.ca (PG) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 22:15:28 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Booster Message-ID: <000301c8efa7$c8a43240$6602a8c0@ecarecenters.net> Hi all, The Brakes on my BJ8 have become rock hard and I suspect the Brake Booster..I"ll test it tomorrow for vacumn. In the meantime, how difficult is the rebuild and how long should I budget the car to be off the road for? I also seam to recall a discussion a couple of years ago regarding a dry lubrication that was necessary??? Any tips appreciated. Thanks Paul 67BJ8 68TR250 47 Willy's From ekiessling at sbcglobal.net Sun Jul 27 00:28:44 2008 From: ekiessling at sbcglobal.net (edward kiessling) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 23:28:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] bt7 conv top Message-ID: <360491.87230.qm@web83204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> What's the best way to fasten the top at the front tach- nails on top,or wrap iit around and also tack under trim piece? Any recommendations would be helpful. Thanks Les Roberts & Ted Kiessling From healey.nut at gmail.com Sun Jul 27 01:11:19 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 15:11:19 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] synthetic oils In-Reply-To: <004601c8ef8f$bdd23190$5201a8c0@Jim> References: <004601c8ef8f$bdd23190$5201a8c0@Jim> Message-ID: Jim - Its not the oil, its the weight. Lighter oils leak more. If you put MTL in your gearbox it'll leak more than 20-50. I put MT90 in my box and it leaks much less than before. Alan On 7/27/08, James Shope wrote: > has anyone other than me had any problem using synthetic oils and having all > the seals and gaskets start to leak. modern cars are designed for > synthetics, > but my old healey was not happy with synthetic oil. BTW, i had no leaks i > my > bn6 trans until i put in redline and now it is oozing. could be > coincidence, > or not. anyone else notice this? healeymanjim. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 From healey.nut at gmail.com Sun Jul 27 01:14:03 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 15:14:03 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Booster In-Reply-To: <000301c8efa7$c8a43240$6602a8c0@ecarecenters.net> References: <000301c8efa7$c8a43240$6602a8c0@ecarecenters.net> Message-ID: Paul - Rebuilding the booster won't take you more than an hour's worth of work, it's an easy job unless the cylinder is shot. If it's shot, then the thing has to go to someone to be sleeved properly. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 1:15 PM, PG wrote: > Hi all, > > > > The Brakes on my BJ8 have become rock hard and I suspect the Brake > Booster..I"ll test it tomorrow for vacumn. > > > > In the meantime, how difficult is the rebuild and how long should I budget > the car to be off the road for? > > > > I also seam to recall a discussion a couple of years ago regarding a dry > lubrication that was necessary??? > > > > Any tips appreciated. > > > > Thanks > > Paul > > > > 67BJ8 > > 68TR250 > > 47 Willy's From sbyers at ec.rr.com Sun Jul 27 04:54:13 2008 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8Healeys) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 03:54:13 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Booster In-Reply-To: <000301c8efa7$c8a43240$6602a8c0@ecarecenters.net> References: <000301c8efa7$c8a43240$6602a8c0@ecarecenters.net> Message-ID: <001001c8efd7$1b3d2be0$51b783a0$@rr.com> Hi, Paul - In my opinion, the hardest thing about rebuilding the booster is getting it in and out of the car. I think I spent a couple days on rebuilding mine. The dry film lube is needed for the inside of the canister. I used an air-dry spray product from Sandstrom: http://www.sandstromproducts.com/solidfilm.htm Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of PG Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 10:15 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Brake Booster Hi all, The Brakes on my BJ8 have become rock hard and I suspect the Brake Booster..I"ll test it tomorrow for vacumn. In the meantime, how difficult is the rebuild and how long should I budget the car to be off the road for? I also seam to recall a discussion a couple of years ago regarding a dry lubrication that was necessary??? Any tips appreciated. Thanks Paul From tomfelts at windstream.net Sun Jul 27 06:51:36 2008 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (tomfelts at windstream.net) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 8:51:36 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Radio antenna Message-ID: <20080727125136.OVE29060.ispmxmta06-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> Right rear of the front wing--as yours is. I like it there. Some have put it on the right rear wing. but I don't like it at all there. You could put a mount on the rear bumper attachments and mount it there. I had a CB antenna there once and it looked pretty good. But--at speed it tended to "flap" around a lot. > > From: "Elton Schulz" > Date: 2008/07/26 Sat PM 11:50:44 EDT > To: "Healey List" > Subject: [Healeys] Radio antenna > > Fellow listers, > The radio antenna for my vintage radio is mounted on the right front fender of > my BJ7. I'm not sure I like it's location. I think it detracts from the look > of the car. Since I'm restoring the car, I'm considering closing the hole in > the fender and relocating the antenna so it's not so obtrusive. Where have you > mounted your antenna on your cars? Any options out there where the antenna > does not protrude from the sheet metal (i.e. more invisible)? > Elton > BJ7 in progress > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From tomfelts at windstream.net Sun Jul 27 06:58:49 2008 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (tomfelts at windstream.net) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 8:58:49 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] synthetic oils Message-ID: <20080727125849.UVLJ13398.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> When I had my BJ8 engine rebuilt in 01, I added synthetic. No leaks---really----but---------I found the synthetic caused a delay---yes a delay--in lubrication upon starting which caused a distinct engine knock till the oil was fully distributed. Makes no sense, since it it "more slippery", but that is how it reacted in my car. Took it out, added Val 20/50 VR1 racing oil and never any more knocking upon starting. tom > > From: "Mr. Bill" > Date: 2008/07/27 Sun AM 01:13:41 EDT > To: healeys > Subject: Re: [Healeys] synthetic oils > > Jim, > > The same happened to a friend of mine in his early BN1 #484. Years ago > he did an oil change to Mobile 1. He got up the next morning to find it > all over his garage floor. That was enough for me to stay with Dino Oil. > > He's on this List. Maybe he'll chime in now with the whole story. > > Bill Barnett > BN1M > > James Shope wrote: > > has anyone other than me had any problem using synthetic oils and having all > > the seals and gaskets start to leak. modern cars are designed for synthetics, > > but my old healey was not happy with synthetic oil. BTW, i had no leaks i my > > bn6 trans until i put in redline and now it is oozing. could be coincidence, > > or not. anyone else notice this? healeymanjim. > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From tomfelts at windstream.net Sun Jul 27 07:03:22 2008 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (tomfelts at windstream.net) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 9:03:22 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Booster Message-ID: <20080727130322.BDYP29060.ispmxmta06-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> FWIW, after trying to rebuild my original and not having any luck, my mechanic put an aftermarket booster on my BJ8. Works perfectly. > > From: "BJ8Healeys" > Date: 2008/07/27 Sun AM 06:54:13 EDT > To: > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brake Booster > > Hi, Paul - > > In my opinion, the hardest thing about rebuilding the booster is getting it > in and out of the car. I think I spent a couple days on rebuilding mine. > The dry film lube is needed for the inside of the canister. I used an > air-dry spray product from Sandstrom: > http://www.sandstromproducts.com/solidfilm.htm > > Steve Byers > HBJ8L/36666 > BJ8 Registry > Havelock, NC USA > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of PG > Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 10:15 PM > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] Brake Booster > > Hi all, > > > > The Brakes on my BJ8 have become rock hard and I suspect the Brake > Booster..I"ll test it tomorrow for vacumn. > > > > In the meantime, how difficult is the rebuild and how long should I budget > the car to be off the road for? > > > > I also seam to recall a discussion a couple of years ago regarding a dry > lubrication that was necessary??? > > > > Any tips appreciated. > > > > Thanks > > Paul > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Jul 27 07:39:25 2008 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 13:39:25 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Booster Message-ID: <072720081339.27827.488C7A8D0008E0F900006CB3220702157304040A0B079F9C0D@comcast.net> Actually, there are two cylinders; the main/master cylinder and one to actuate the air/vacuum valve (three if you count the vacuum canister as a cylinder). I recommend spending a half-hour or so studying the manual so you know exactly how the servo (booster) works. Instructions come with the rebuild kits. Study the unit--maybe take notes and/or photos--as you take it apart. What usually fails is the "gland" seal that seals the vacuum piston shaft. Make sure the check valve works. Unfortunately no one makes new ones and used ones are hard to find (check with BCS). Probably a good time to replace the vacuum hose from the manifold to the servo. You may or may not need the dry lubricant depending on the miles on the booster. Probably a good idea to use it. Sandstrom has a minimum order and hazmat issues ... expect to pay up to $50. If you send the body out for re-sleeving, make sure the shop doesn't sandblast the air/vacuum valve area (or the threads to the brake lines). It's arguably a "fun" job. bs -- *************************************************************** Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net '67 Austin-Healey 3000 '56 Austin-Healey 100M *************************************************************** From Warthodson at aol.com Sun Jul 27 08:05:59 2008 From: Warthodson at aol.com (Warthodson at aol.com) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 10:05:59 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Transmission Conversions Message-ID: I recently read the article in the June 2008 issue of the Austin Healey magazine by Tracy Drummond concerning a Smitty transmission conversion & I noticed the pilot bushing bearing was installed in the flywheel, not in the crank shaft. What is the reason/benefit for this? Also, do you think the reason the original bearing (mentioned in the article) failed was because it was brass when it should have been bronze? Or was there some other reason? Gary Hodson **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) From fmags at cox.net Sun Jul 27 09:05:55 2008 From: fmags at cox.net (Frank Magnusson) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 10:05:55 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] brake booster Message-ID: <7B1BE7D2E9FC46C1AC1E47A78E6DE72C@FrankPC> Hi Paul, Your problem may be a brake hose. Quite a few years ago I had one of the front brake hoses collapse on itself from age and if I remember correctly the pedal got quite hard. Basically when you step on the pedal brake fluid goes out to the caliper and then when you release, the hose collapsed on itself trapping pressure out at the caliper. A simple test is to unscrew the bleeder screw a half a turn or so, see if any fluid comes out, tighten it back up and then press the pedal and see if it is still hard. If the hose is collapsing on itself, fluid will come out of the bleeder screw; it's the only place it can go. Although as I remember, the pressure will bleed itself off after a couple days. You'll want to try both calipers. If it is one of the brake hoses, replace them both; the other can't be far behind. I am interested in what you find out about the brake booster; I'm going to do mine this fall. It was hard to find the kit; everybody wants to sell you a whole booster for about $400. I think I got the overhaul kit from Norman Nock for about $40. There are several different manufacturers of servos that were on the cars; Lockheed and Girling I think? I did a brake booster on a Triumph a few years ago and it wasn't very difficult. Hardest part was getting it apart; had to make a tool; it's probably in the service manual how to overhaul it and if any special tools are required. Good luck, Frank '65 BJ8 From bn1 at pacbell.net Sun Jul 27 11:44:04 2008 From: bn1 at pacbell.net (Mr. Bill) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 10:44:04 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Radio antenna In-Reply-To: <20080727125136.OVE29060.ispmxmta06-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> References: <20080727125136.OVE29060.ispmxmta06-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> Message-ID: <488CB3E4.6080703@pacbell.net> Another friend of mine, also on this List and who I thought would answer, hid his horizontally under the rocker panel. As I remember the reception was pretty terrible BUT you couldn't see the antenna. :-) Maybe he'll verify that.? I, too, have a CB antenna with a quick release on the RR bumper mount. My fiberglass antenna doesn't whip around at speed and when removed, the mount is hidden by the bumper. I like it that way. How many of you who went to Conclave even noticed it? Bill Barnett BN1M tomfelts at windstream.net wrote: > Right rear of the front wing--as yours is. I like it there. Some have put it on the right rear wing. but I don't like it at all there. You could put a mount on the rear bumper attachments and mount it there. I had a CB antenna there once and it looked pretty good. But--at speed it tended to "flap" around a lot. > >> From: "Elton Schulz" >> Date: 2008/07/26 Sat PM 11:50:44 EDT >> To: "Healey List" >> Subject: [Healeys] Radio antenna >> >> Fellow listers, >> The radio antenna for my vintage radio is mounted on the right front fender of >> my BJ7. I'm not sure I like it's location. I think it detracts from the look >> of the car. Since I'm restoring the car, I'm considering closing the hole in >> the fender and relocating the antenna so it's not so obtrusive. Where have you >> mounted your antenna on your cars? Any options out there where the antenna >> does not protrude from the sheet metal (i.e. more invisible)? >> Elton >> BJ7 in progress >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as bn1 at pacbell.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com Sun Jul 27 12:10:05 2008 From: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com (Richard Collins) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 11:10:05 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Tonneau Cover In-Reply-To: References: <8CAB680803D3082-8E4-7088@webmail-nh08.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Hi Phil, I just sent you pictures of my black 4 seater tonneau and soft top cover (at least I believe it is) that I am looking to swap with anyone for a 2 seater tonneau for my BN7. They appear to be virtually new. (Vinyl) Thanks, Richard of KY 60 BN7 #440> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 06:57:58 -0400> From: ah3000me at gmail.com> To: philritten at aol.com> CC: healeys at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Tonneau Cover> > I have the same problem with mine, and I assume the tonneau cover has lost> its stretch or shrunk with age.> > - tom> > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 8:01 PM, wrote:> > > I have a Tonneau cover that I got with my 4 seater that doesn't quite seem> > to have the room to snap the front couple of snaps on each side and be long> > enough to go over the steering wheel or over the front snap. Someone> > mentioned it might be for a 2 seater. Would anyone out there like to trade> > me for a 4 seat cover?> >> _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch when you're away with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenge r2_072008 From tomfelts at windstream.net Sun Jul 27 12:21:47 2008 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (tomfelts at windstream.net) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 14:21:47 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Radio antenna Message-ID: <20080727182147.SDWW29060.ispmxmta06-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> Mine was one of the skinny metal antenna's so it tended to flap around. If I hook it up again, I'll use a larger one. I did kinda like the looks of it. My problem with the CB was that I couldn't hear it at speed. Don't think it had ear phone jacks either. > > From: "Mr. Bill" > Date: 2008/07/27 Sun PM 01:44:04 EDT > To: Healey List > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Radio antenna > > Another friend of mine, also on this List and who I thought would > answer, hid his horizontally under the rocker panel. As I remember the > reception was pretty terrible BUT you couldn't see the antenna. :-) > Maybe he'll verify that.? > > I, too, have a CB antenna with a quick release on the RR bumper mount. > My fiberglass antenna doesn't whip around at speed and when removed, the > mount is hidden by the bumper. I like it that way. How many of you who > went to Conclave even noticed it? > > Bill Barnett > BN1M > > tomfelts at windstream.net wrote: > > Right rear of the front wing--as yours is. I like it there. Some have put it on the right rear wing. but I don't like it at all there. You could put a mount on the rear bumper attachments and mount it there. I had a CB antenna there once and it looked pretty good. But--at speed it tended to "flap" around a lot. > > > >> From: "Elton Schulz" > >> Date: 2008/07/26 Sat PM 11:50:44 EDT > >> To: "Healey List" > >> Subject: [Healeys] Radio antenna > >> > >> Fellow listers, > >> The radio antenna for my vintage radio is mounted on the right front fender of > >> my BJ7. I'm not sure I like it's location. I think it detracts from the look > >> of the car. Since I'm restoring the car, I'm considering closing the hole in > >> the fender and relocating the antenna so it's not so obtrusive. Where have you > >> mounted your antenna on your cars? Any options out there where the antenna > >> does not protrude from the sheet metal (i.e. more invisible)? > >> Elton > >> BJ7 in progress > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> > >> Healeys at autox.team.net > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > >> > >> You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net > >> > >> http://www.team.net/archive > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > You are subscribed as bn1 at pacbell.net > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From bn1 at pacbell.net Sun Jul 27 12:46:25 2008 From: bn1 at pacbell.net (Mr. Bill) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 11:46:25 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Radio antenna In-Reply-To: <20080727182147.SDWW29060.ispmxmta06-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> References: <20080727182147.SDWW29060.ispmxmta06-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> Message-ID: <488CC281.4080001@pacbell.net> Hi Tom, I bought a little 3" auxiliary speaker that can be easily heard when cranked up. It sits on the parcel tray next to the small removable CB unit. There's another fused hot lead there that powers the GPS. Either lead can be quickly disconnected to run something else. Bill tomfelts at windstream.net wrote: > Mine was one of the skinny metal antenna's so it tended to flap around. If I hook it up again, I'll use a larger one. I did kinda like the looks of it. My problem with the CB was that I couldn't hear it at speed. Don't think it had ear phone jacks either. > >> From: "Mr. Bill" >> Date: 2008/07/27 Sun PM 01:44:04 EDT >> To: Healey List >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Radio antenna >> >> Another friend of mine, also on this List and who I thought would >> answer, hid his horizontally under the rocker panel. As I remember the >> reception was pretty terrible BUT you couldn't see the antenna. :-) >> Maybe he'll verify that.? >> >> I, too, have a CB antenna with a quick release on the RR bumper mount. >> My fiberglass antenna doesn't whip around at speed and when removed, the >> mount is hidden by the bumper. I like it that way. How many of you who >> went to Conclave even noticed it? >> >> Bill Barnett >> BN1M >> >> tomfelts at windstream.net wrote: >> >>> Right rear of the front wing--as yours is. I like it there. Some have put it on the right rear wing. but I don't like it at all there. You could put a mount on the rear bumper attachments and mount it there. I had a CB antenna there once and it looked pretty good. But--at speed it tended to "flap" around a lot. >>> >>> >>>> From: "Elton Schulz" >>>> Date: 2008/07/26 Sat PM 11:50:44 EDT >>>> To: "Healey List" >>>> Subject: [Healeys] Radio antenna >>>> >>>> Fellow listers, >>>> The radio antenna for my vintage radio is mounted on the right front fender of >>>> my BJ7. I'm not sure I like it's location. I think it detracts from the look >>>> of the car. Since I'm restoring the car, I'm considering closing the hole in >>>> the fender and relocating the antenna so it's not so obtrusive. Where have you >>>> mounted your antenna on your cars? Any options out there where the antenna >>>> does not protrude from the sheet metal (i.e. more invisible)? >>>> Elton >>>> BJ7 in progress >>>> _______________________________________________ From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sun Jul 27 12:55:56 2008 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (Rick Neville) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 11:55:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Mystery of the WOT - Solved Message-ID: <911181.90512.qm@web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com> You may remember a couple of weeks ago I posted I was stumped by my BJ7 going to wide-open-throttle at start-up. All those who thought "throttle linkage", give yourself a pat on the back. It was actually Norman Nock who provided the best clue, when he said I couldn't get to WOT without the butterflies being opened. Sure enough, I checked again and the butterflies were opened a bit with the throttle closed. I disconnected all the linkage, but they still weren't closing all the way. Took the carbs off, separated the connecting linkage and the throttles closed completely. The aha! moment hit. Because I couldn't locate an original BJ7 throttle coupling shaft, I had to fab one up from two individual shafts, one which had a throttle stop, the other with the bellcrank. I connected the two with a flexible coupling spring. I was wary of cutting one of the coupling shafts too short so I made a number of cuts until I had a snug fit of the shaft between the two carbs. Problem was, it was too snug and was putting enough pressure on each throttle shaft to bind them up without allowing the butterflies to completely close. A little grinding off the end of one of the shafts and problem solved. A special thanks to Ed, also, who offered a bunch of helpful suggestions and encouraged me to keep at it until I found the problem. Happy Healeying, Rick From rnbmail at yahoo.com Sun Jul 27 13:57:19 2008 From: rnbmail at yahoo.com (Robert Blair) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 12:57:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Tops, Tonneaus and Covers ..... questions. Message-ID: <523039.11084.qm@web37904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Listers, 1. Tops: I recently bought a VERY cheap new black vinyl soft top for my BJ8 on ebay. I was careless and did not pay attention to the details, as the ad said 'all big healey models bla bla'. It arrived with 12 stud snappers around the rear of the hood - no good for the BJ8. But still a nice top - anyone interested in it email me off line at rnb at ix.netcom.com Question - where should I go for a good BJ8 top - the canvas mercedes type of material? 2. Tonneau: I have a tonneau that came with the car 20 years ago. It fits the car, but has 5 snapper studs around the rear and 2 on each side. I believe only 2 are used on the BJ8 at the rear, so I have 3 unused studs in the middle. Which healey uses 5 rear snappers? Question; where should i go for a good BJ8 tonneau in the future? 3. Top Cover/Boot: I have no cover - where should I go to get a good cover. Appreciate your BJ8 experiences on price, quality and fit. Robert N. Blair 65 Yellow BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com From ah3000me at gmail.com Sun Jul 27 14:32:04 2008 From: ah3000me at gmail.com (T W) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 16:32:04 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] brake booster In-Reply-To: <7B1BE7D2E9FC46C1AC1E47A78E6DE72C@FrankPC> References: <7B1BE7D2E9FC46C1AC1E47A78E6DE72C@FrankPC> Message-ID: I test drove a BJ8 that didn't have the booster -- the brake line went from the master cylinder to the proportioning valve. The brake pedal was firm, but the car seemed easy to stop. Are the brake boosters a safety issue, or more for convenience and ease of use? Older 3000s didn't have them. On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 11:05 AM, Frank Magnusson wrote: > Hi Paul, Your problem may be a brake hose. Quite a few years ago I had > one > of the front brake hoses collapse on itself from age and if I remember > correctly the pedal got quite hard. Basically when you step on the pedal > brake fluid goes out to the caliper and then when you release, the hose > collapsed on itself trapping pressure out at the caliper. > > A simple test is to unscrew the bleeder screw a half a turn or so, see if > any > fluid comes out, tighten it back up and then press the pedal and see if it > is > still hard. If the hose is collapsing on itself, fluid will come out of > the > bleeder screw; it's the only place it can go. Although as I remember, the > pressure will bleed itself off after a couple days. You'll want to try > both > calipers. If it is one of the brake hoses, replace them both; the other > can't > be far behind. > > I am interested in what you find out about the brake booster; I'm going to > do > mine this fall. It was hard to find the kit; everybody wants to sell you a > whole booster for about $400. I think I got the overhaul kit from Norman > Nock > for about $40. There are several different manufacturers of servos that > were > on the cars; Lockheed and Girling I think? I did a brake booster on a > Triumph > a few years ago and it wasn't very difficult. Hardest part was getting it > apart; had to make a tool; it's probably in the service manual how to > overhaul > it and if any special tools are required. > > Good luck, > Frank > '65 BJ8 > > The Brakes on my BJ8 have become rock hard and I suspect the Brake > Booster..I"ll test it tomorrow for vacumn. > > In the meantime, how difficult is the rebuild and how long should I budget > the car to be off the road for? > > I also seam to recall a discussion a couple of years ago regarding a dry > lubrication that was necessary??? > > Any tips appreciated. > > Thanks > > Paul> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as ah3000me at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl Sun Jul 27 14:45:40 2008 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 22:45:40 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] brake booster Message-ID: <004501c8f029$bfdc7280$0200a8c0@tm4> Hello there, For documentation, scroll down to the Brakes section in : http://volvo1800pictures.com/sweden/Volvo_1800_dokumentation_main_page_en.ht m The original Girling literature is there. The Brakes section of the green Volvo Service Manuals also includes a very good section on how it works. I have rebuild about 2-3, and it's a bit of a job.. The following parts are available from various sources: - rebuild kit - little plastic valves on the T-piece - air filter - the big vacuum piston. The rebuild kit is usually sufficient.. If you go for replacements, there are 2 available: - Lockheed - PBR But keep in mind they have different characteristics of assisting the braking power. From jackson_krall at yahoo.com Sun Jul 27 15:15:39 2008 From: jackson_krall at yahoo.com (Jackson Krall) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 14:15:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Tops, Tonneaus and Covers ..... questions. In-Reply-To: <523039.11084.qm@web37904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <82724.75218.qm@web52404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> For the canvas top try Caribou Canvas http://www.esportscarparts.com/CaribouTops/index.htm --- On Sun, 7/27/08, Robert Blair wrote: > From: Robert Blair > Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Tops, Tonneaus and Covers ..... questions. > To: "Healey List" > Date: Sunday, July 27, 2008, 3:57 PM > Hi Listers, > > Question - where should I go for a good BJ8 top - the > canvas mercedes type of > material? From phillip.leslie at sbcglobal.net Sun Jul 27 16:11:36 2008 From: phillip.leslie at sbcglobal.net (Phillip Leslie) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 15:11:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Oil leak at clutch housing Message-ID: <626617.78124.qm@web83104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> First, thanks to all who helped me with my BJ8's overdrive problem. It was a faulty relay. The current problem is an oil leak through the drain hole in the bottom of the clutch housing. It's the hole with the cotter key in it. This started right after I filled the trans and overdrive with Redline MTL. Could an overfill cause this? The dip stick is showing oil above the "high" line. I followed the manual regarding the required number of U.S. pints but it appears to be overfilled. Before I start draining the $10 per quart oil I thought I'd check with the experts. From robert.w.johnson at charter.net Sun Jul 27 16:50:38 2008 From: robert.w.johnson at charter.net (Bob Johnson) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 18:50:38 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Motor Oil API-SL Message-ID: <000c01c8f03b$30df33d0$021919ac@valued28addca9> Went to Tractor Supply Co today and found API-SL motor oil in several grades. It is their brand - Traveller - , is conventional oil and was only 2.49 per qt. 30 wt. nd oil as well. Sounded good to me! Bob Johnson BJ8 From frogeye at porterscustom.com Sun Jul 27 17:18:56 2008 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (Dave Porter) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:18:56 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Oil leak at clutch housing In-Reply-To: <626617.78124.qm@web83104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20080727231841.C0CA418766D@autox.team.net> The dipstick mark is such that the fluid level is below the input shaft height. Anything above that will allow the fluid to be more easily passed through the shaft lip seal, which is probably 40+ years old and hard as a wedding p.... If it wasn't leaking before overfilling, then you know what you have to do. Dave frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 Porter Custom Bicycles www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+frogeye=porterscustom.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+frogeye=porterscustom.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Phillip Leslie Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 4:12 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Oil leak at clutch housing First, thanks to all who helped me with my BJ8's overdrive problem. It was a faulty relay. The current problem is an oil leak through the drain hole in the bottom of the clutch housing. It's the hole with the cotter key in it. This started right after I filled the trans and overdrive with Redline MTL. Could an overfill cause this? The dip stick is showing oil above the "high" line. I followed the manual regarding the required number of U.S. pints but it appears to be overfilled. Before I start draining the $10 per quart oil I thought I'd check with the experts. Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as frogeye at porterscustom.com http://www.team.net/archive From richchrysler at quickclic.net Sun Jul 27 20:45:43 2008 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 22:45:43 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: BN7 car numbers Message-ID: <003f01c8f05c$07f58ed0$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> John, I would be checking back with BMIHT first. You may well have a certificate from them with a simple body number misprint. Sounds like your body number would be just about right if it was 13792. That would set everything else just about spot on, wouldn't it? They have been known to make plenty of clerical errors before, and will again. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: stella67 at aol.com To: richchrysler at quickclic.net ; TRICARB at aol.com Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 10:19 PM Subject: BN7 car numbers I am restoring a BN 7 MK II to original specs. I purchased the car in Canada from an owner who purchased the car in Canada from and owner who bought the car from a Florida Owner. I have replaced the frame with an exact replacement. During the time I took the car apart I was careful to record all details (this is the 6th Healey I have restored over the last 30 + years. This one has me wondering what I have. I noticed nothing unusual about the frame or construction of this car. All numbers appear to match in every way I can find. With the exception of the car/body number. The British Motor Industry Heritage Trust Certificate tells me that the number on this car are: Car/Chassis Number - H-BN7-L-14048 Body Number - 12792 Engine Number - 29E=RU-H/315 Car Built - May 9-10 1961 Date dispatched July18, 1961 The car, engine and body plates match the British Heritage information. The problem with this is the numbers don't make sense, especially the Body Number 12792. According to Clausager's book the BN7 Mark II started with car number 13751 engine number 101. This is a thousand car numbers off. These are the same numbers shown in Gary Anderson/Roger Moment's book and a number of others. The car is a very early BN7 Mark II - it has the smaller balance tube on the carbs. All the car Lucas numbers are from 1960 to early 1961 (generator, starter, relays, etc). As late as December 1960 the numbers are in the 13000's. I have been trying to discover the reason for this numbering sequence. None of the other cars I have restored have had these kinds of discrepancies. I have had certificates on all of them and traced each of their production and ownership records. Minor number discrepancies are easy to account for but this i s a huge discrepancy. I am wondering if any of you have an idea why this number is so far off. More importantly why is there such a large gap in the numbers. Do you know of any other cars with this discrepancy? Any suggestion or recommendations would be appreciated. John McElrath s ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - The Famous, the Infamous, the Lame - in your browser. Get the TMZ Toolbar Now! From eschulz at frontiernet.net Sun Jul 27 22:09:19 2008 From: eschulz at frontiernet.net (Elton Schulz) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 00:09:19 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Radio Antenna Message-ID: <009a01c8f067$b5603ce0$bf5d6546@655vb01> Fellow listers, Thanks for all your good ideas. Much appreciated! Elton BJ7 in progress From RonFineEsq at earthlink.net Sun Jul 27 22:39:13 2008 From: RonFineEsq at earthlink.net (Ron Fine) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:39:13 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Radio antenna References: <006c01c8ef9b$f2b88f10$bf5d6546@655vb01> Message-ID: <5822DDDB6149416EB8B9CED7C5152BDA@XPS400> Am I correct in my understanding that these hidden antennas will not work well or at all for AM radio?? Ron > Check out any decent online hot rodders shop, they all sell hideaway > antennas. The downside of this is the reception may not be as good. > Here's > a couple of samples I found: > > http://autoloc.carshopinc.com/product_info.php/products_id/9206/HAB > > http://www.ecshylites.citymax.com/page/page/761353.htm From pieterscheen at optusnet.com.au Mon Jul 28 00:26:52 2008 From: pieterscheen at optusnet.com.au (pieter scheenhouwer) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:26:52 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] rear discs found Message-ID: <200807280626.m6S6QnMo018573@mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au> All, A few months ago I asked the question about rear discs to fit the conversion as sold by Cape/ Welch/SC Prts. After much searching of catalogues I have discovered that the front disc from a BMW 318i (E36) is pretty close. A local firm is machining a set for me with the correct bolt holes and centre hole and reducing the overall diameter slightly. The total cost for a pair of discs is AUS$210 including supply of the original discs and the machining work. If anybody is interested in going down this path I can either supply a set here or pass on the model number of the disc and the required machining sizes, Cheers Pieter From sbyers at ec.rr.com Mon Jul 28 04:58:08 2008 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8Healeys) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 03:58:08 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: BN7 car numbers In-Reply-To: <003f01c8f05c$07f58ed0$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> References: <003f01c8f05c$07f58ed0$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> Message-ID: <000701c8f0a0$d1d80d10$75882730$@rr.com> " The car, engine and body plates match the British Heritage information" John, if I'm reading you correctly it isn't that the BMIHT certificate has an error and doesn't agree with the body plate. It is that the body plate has the same number as on the certificate, and those numbers don't agree with the manufacturing info available from Clausager and Anderson/Moment. In that case, whoever stamped the body number on the plate appears to have made a typo and it was recorded that way in the original BMIHT records. If the BMIHT records say the body number is 12792, then they won't change your certificate to match reality. Your car will just be an anomaly. Although I can't prove it at this point, in the BJ8 registry I have quite a few batch/body numbers recorded from the actual body plates that don't match the usual pattern. I think these are just mistakes in stamping. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA ---------------------- On Behalf Of Rich C Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 7:46 PM To: Healeys Subject: [Healeys] Fw: BN7 car numbers John, I would be checking back with BMIHT first. You may well have a certificate from them with a simple body number misprint. Sounds like your body number would be just about right if it was 13792. That would set everything else just about spot on, wouldn't it? They have been known to make plenty of clerical errors before, and will again. Rich Chrysler From JNBrashear at garverengineers.com Mon Jul 28 08:05:40 2008 From: JNBrashear at garverengineers.com (Brashear, Jack, N) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:05:40 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Booster - Aftermarket In-Reply-To: <000301c8efa7$c8a43240$6602a8c0@ecarecenters.net> Message-ID: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603FA9338@glitas07.garverinc.local> This is just FYI so don't bother reading if you're into strict originality. A couple of years ago I sent in an article to Healey Marque (since Reid became editor) about an aftermarket booster I put on my BT7. The article had some photos and gave lots of details. BTW, it works just fine and it cost about $200 (then). The article was intended for those who turn their own wrenches. The article may be in the Healey archives if you'd care to look. Jack -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+jnbrashear=garverengineers.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+jnbrashear=garverengineers.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of PG Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 12:15 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Brake Booster Hi all, The Brakes on my BJ8 have become rock hard and I suspect the Brake Booster..I"ll test it tomorrow for vacumn. In the meantime, how difficult is the rebuild and how long should I budget the car to be off the road for? I also seam to recall a discussion a couple of years ago regarding a dry lubrication that was necessary??? Any tips appreciated. Thanks Paul 67BJ8 68TR250 47 Willy's From pennell at cox.net Mon Jul 28 08:25:28 2008 From: pennell at cox.net (pennell at cox.net) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:25:28 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Oil leak at clutch housing In-Reply-To: <20080727231841.C0CA418766D@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <20080728102528.IEUKP.49724.imail@eastrmwml37> All, What Dave says makes sense. Rather than pull the drain plug to reduce the level, how does this sound? Place a bowl on the floor beneath the drain plug. Check the amount of fluid collected each day. (You may even be able to reuse what leaks later?) When the amount of leak stops or becomes tolerable, your're done! The level will adjust itself on its own! Just a thought Keith Pennell > The dipstick mark is such that the fluid level is below the input shaft > height. Anything above that will allow the fluid to be more easily passed > through the shaft lip seal, which is probably 40+ years old and hard as a > wedding p.... > If it wasn't leaking before overfilling, then you know what you have to do. > Dave From dan at warner-associates.com Mon Jul 28 08:56:26 2008 From: dan at warner-associates.com (Dan Stromquist) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:56:26 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] reversing polarity 66 BJ8 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c8f0c2$1eb94880$1e00000a@DANSTROM> There is a switch on the back of your original radio you need to switch form positive to negative ground. Dan From dan at warner-associates.com Mon Jul 28 08:56:27 2008 From: dan at warner-associates.com (Dan Stromquist) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:56:27 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Missing under load 64 BJ8 Message-ID: <000101c8f0c2$1f6762d0$1e00000a@DANSTROM> My local shop here in Minneapolis cannot seem to figure out why the car misses under load. After a good warm up, it seems to run great for a few minutes and it idles like a champ. As soon as we hit the in town highways it starts to miss as soon as I accelerate, especially in the 2200 to 3000 RMP range when I put it into overdrive and give it some gas. I know it seems like a fuel problem but they have assured me the flow is there and it is electrical after pulling the carbs and cleaning them. We replaced or checked the distributor (rebuilt), plugs, wires, coil, condenser, points, timing, new rotor, carbs cleaned and rich needles installed (they were rebuilt by Jim Taylor). Shoot me some ideas. The bill is out of sight. I suppose it is possible that some of the replacement parts are bad to so I am going to make up a new set of high quality plug wires, new Lucas cap, another new British Car Specialists rotor, condenser, and plug end caps. Daniel A Stromquist Certified Public Accountant 7801 East Bush Lake Rd, Suite 430 Bloomington, MN 55439 Home Phone: 952-949-2718 Work Phone: 952-831-1340 Ext 1 Work Fax: 952-831-5657 Cell Phone: 952-994-2718 Home E-mail: danstromquist at comcast.net Work E-mail: dan at warner-associates.com This notice is required by IRS Circular 230, which regulates written communications about federal tax matters between tax advisors and their clients. To the extent the preceding correspondence and/or attachment is a written tax advice communication, it is not a full "covered opinion." Accordingly, this advice is not intended and cannot be used for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed by the taxing authority. From dan at warner-associates.com Mon Jul 28 09:23:14 2008 From: dan at warner-associates.com (Dan Stromquist) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:23:14 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Still Missing under load 64 BJ8 Message-ID: <000901c8f0c5$daebf720$1e00000a@DANSTROM> Listers: My local shop here in Minneapolis cannot seem to figure out why the car misses under load. After a good warm up, it seems to run great for a few minutes and it idles like a champ. As soon as we hit the in town highways it starts to miss as soon as I accelerate, especially in the 2200 to 3000 RMP range when I put it into overdrive and give it some gas. I know it seems like a fuel problem but they have assured me the flow is there and it is electrical after pulling the carbs and cleaning them. We replaced or checked the distributor (rebuilt), plugs, wires, coil, condenser, points, timing, new rotor, carbs cleaned and rich needles installed (they were rebuilt by Jim Taylor). Shoot me some ideas. The bill is out of sight. I suppose it is possible that some of the replacement parts are bad to so I am going to make up a new set of high quality plug wires, new Lucas cap, another new British Car Specialists rotor, condenser, and plug end caps Dan From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Mon Jul 28 09:34:11 2008 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (James Shope) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 08:34:11 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] oil pressure Message-ID: <007901c8f0c7$626e67e0$5201a8c0@Jim> with it getting hotter and hotter each day here in vegas, i have watched my oil pressure drop down to almost zero when idling after the oil has gotten very hot. i suspect the oil pump but i removed the valve cover to check pressure at idle. oil is coming out all of the rockers as normal, and when i loosed the oil feed nut on the rocker arm, oil shot out all over my engine bay at what i considered a very good pressure. any idea what could be the problem. have checked bearings and they are in excellent shape. could it be the oil pump or something wrong in the oil distribution system? healeymanjim From dan at warner-associates.com Mon Jul 28 09:55:53 2008 From: dan at warner-associates.com (Dan Stromquist) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:55:53 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] (no subject) Message-ID: <002301c8f0ca$6a6b3510$1e00000a@DANSTROM> DELETE-TEST From robert.w.johnson at charter.net Mon Jul 28 10:19:58 2008 From: robert.w.johnson at charter.net (Bob Johnson) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:19:58 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] synthetic oils References: <004601c8ef8f$bdd23190$5201a8c0@Jim> <488C0405.6070300@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <005401c8f0cd$c777fab0$021919ac@valued28addca9> The fellow at Tractor Supply said, during our conversation, that he had put synthetic oil in his '58 Chevy pickup. It leaked like crazy for a few days then quit. He hypothesized that the new synthetic had to rejuvenate the seals and gaskets and once that was done life was good again. Bob Johnson BJ8 > > The same happened to a friend of mine in his early BN1 #484. Years ago > he did an oil change to Mobile 1. He got up the next morning to find it > all over his garage floor. That was enough for me to stay with Dino Oil. From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Jul 28 10:20:37 2008 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:20:37 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Still Missing under load 64 BJ8 Message-ID: <072820081620.23140.488DF1D50004FF7D00005A64220075115004040A0B079F9C0D@comcast.net> Dan, Park the car in a dark garage with good ventilation (a contradiction, I know--maybe do this at night). Open the bonnet and observe the engine closely while revving through the normal RPM range. My guess is you'll see spark arcing somewhere, most likely on the distributor cap. Replace cap, preferably with genuine Lucas cap. bs -- *************************************************************** Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net '67 Austin-Healey 3000 '56 Austin-Healey 100M *************************************************************** -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Dan Stromquist" > Listers: > > > > > > My local shop here in Minneapolis cannot seem to figure out why the car > misses under load. After a good warm up, it seems to run great for a few > minutes and it idles like a champ. As soon as we hit the in town highways > it starts to miss as soon as I accelerate, especially in the 2200 to 3000 > RMP range when I put it into overdrive and give it some gas. I know it > seems like a fuel problem but they have assured me the flow is there and it > is electrical after pulling the carbs and cleaning them. We replaced or > checked the distributor (rebuilt), plugs, wires, coil, condenser, points, > timing, new rotor, carbs cleaned and rich needles installed (they were > rebuilt by Jim Taylor). Shoot me some ideas. The bill is out of sight. I > suppose it is possible that some of the replacement parts are bad to so I am > going to make up a new set of high quality plug wires, new Lucas cap, > another new British Car Specialists rotor, condenser, and plug end caps > > > > Dan > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as bspidell at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From rwil at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 28 10:56:14 2008 From: rwil at sbcglobal.net (Roland Wilhelmy) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:56:14 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Still Missing under load 64 BJ8 In-Reply-To: <000901c8f0c5$daebf720$1e00000a@DANSTROM> References: <000901c8f0c5$daebf720$1e00000a@DANSTROM> Message-ID: Dan- It certainly could be either faulty new parts or not quite rightly installed good new parts. Barring that .... Maybe you could clarify your symptom description. While cold, does the car start to miss as soon as you accelerate, or does it only start to miss after it is warmed up? If you pull the choke out do the symptoms go away? If you leave it out of overdrive does it miss? If you get the engine running above 3000 rpm, do the symptoms subside? If you drive at, say 3500 rpm for a couple of miles do you get the symptoms? Are the symptoms dependent on the load on the engine, as in are they dependent on how far down your foot is on the accelerator pedal? Do the symptoms subside if you lift up a bit on the accelerator pedal, or does it continue to run rough after that? -Roland On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:23:14 -0500, you wrote: ::My local shop here in Minneapolis cannot seem to figure out why the car ::misses under load. After a good warm up, it seems to run great for a few ::minutes and it idles like a champ. As soon as we hit the in town highways ::it starts to miss as soon as I accelerate, especially in the 2200 to 3000 ::RMP range when I put it into overdrive and give it some gas. From dan at warner-associates.com Mon Jul 28 11:13:36 2008 From: dan at warner-associates.com (Dan Stromquist) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:13:36 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Still Missing under load 64 BJ8 In-Reply-To: <072820081620.23140.488DF1D50004FF7D00005A64220075115004040A0B079F9C0D@comcast.net> Message-ID: <002d01c8f0d5$45c88a90$1e00000a@DANSTROM> Good idea. That was how I found a cracked coil about 35 years ago. Dan -----Original Message----- From: Bob Spidell [mailto:bspidell at comcast.net] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 11:21 AM To: Dan Stromquist; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Still Missing under load 64 BJ8 Dan, Park the car in a dark garage with good ventilation (a contradiction, I know--maybe do this at night). Open the bonnet and observe the engine closely while revving through the normal RPM range. My guess is you'll see spark arcing somewhere, most likely on the distributor cap. Replace cap, preferably with genuine Lucas cap. bs -- *************************************************************** Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net '67 Austin-Healey 3000 '56 Austin-Healey 100M *************************************************************** -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Dan Stromquist" > Listers: > > > > > > My local shop here in Minneapolis cannot seem to figure out why the car > misses under load. After a good warm up, it seems to run great for a few > minutes and it idles like a champ. As soon as we hit the in town highways > it starts to miss as soon as I accelerate, especially in the 2200 to 3000 > RMP range when I put it into overdrive and give it some gas. I know it > seems like a fuel problem but they have assured me the flow is there and it > is electrical after pulling the carbs and cleaning them. We replaced or > checked the distributor (rebuilt), plugs, wires, coil, condenser, points, > timing, new rotor, carbs cleaned and rich needles installed (they were > rebuilt by Jim Taylor). Shoot me some ideas. The bill is out of sight. I > suppose it is possible that some of the replacement parts are bad to so I am > going to make up a new set of high quality plug wires, new Lucas cap, > another new British Car Specialists rotor, condenser, and plug end caps > > > > Dan > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as bspidell at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From sbyers at ec.rr.com Mon Jul 28 11:17:33 2008 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8Healeys) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:17:33 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] oil pressure In-Reply-To: <007901c8f0c7$626e67e0$5201a8c0@Jim> References: <007901c8f0c7$626e67e0$5201a8c0@Jim> Message-ID: <005901c8f0d5$d2f65b40$78e311c0$@rr.com> Jim, I think that's typical for a Healey engine. Since an engine rebuild in 1999 (I did not replace the oil pump), my BJ8 has run at just under 40 psi on the gauge when fully warmed up. On really hot days (such as we had on the trip to and from Conclave), the oil pressure dropped to just above zero at idle. I am using 20W-50 Castrol with the ZDDPlus additive. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of James Shope Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 8:34 AM To: healeys Subject: [Healeys] oil pressure with it getting hotter and hotter each day here in vegas, i have watched my oil pressure drop down to almost zero when idling after the oil has gotten very hot. i suspect the oil pump but i removed the valve cover to check pressure at idle. oil is coming out all of the rockers as normal, and when i loosed the oil feed nut on the rocker arm, oil shot out all over my engine bay at what i considered a very good pressure. any idea what could be the problem. have checked bearings and they are in excellent shape. could it be the oil pump or something wrong in the oil distribution system? healeymanjim From grumpyinloomis at ssctv.net Mon Jul 28 12:13:43 2008 From: grumpyinloomis at ssctv.net (Jerry Costanzo) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 11:13:43 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] head water outlet back to radiator Message-ID: <003601c8f0dd$abf70370$0300a8c0@cardinalhealth.net> Does anyone know if the water outlet back to the top of radiator is the same bolt pattern as the universal replacements? I need one that has a turn toward the radiator. Jerry From maxandreb1 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 28 12:21:15 2008 From: maxandreb1 at yahoo.com (Maurice Maxwell) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 11:21:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Oil leak at clutch housing Message-ID: <699480.82319.qm@web58207.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Why not remove some oil from the tranny by using a rubber tube attached to something like a turkey baster through the dipstick hole? Max 1961 BT-7 From frogeye at porterscustom.com Mon Jul 28 12:22:13 2008 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (Dave Porter) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:22:13 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Missing under load 64 BJ8 In-Reply-To: <000101c8f0c2$1f6762d0$1e00000a@DANSTROM> Message-ID: <20080728182201.EE5D818789B@autox.team.net> If it misses randomly, no one cylinder in particular then it's probably a bad condenser. Dave frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 Porter Custom Bicycles www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+frogeye=porterscustom.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+frogeye=porterscustom.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dan Stromquist Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 8:56 AM To: 'Healey List Emails' Cc: 'Advanced Distributors' Subject: [Healeys] Missing under load 64 BJ8 My local shop here in Minneapolis cannot seem to figure out why the car misses under load. After a good warm up, it seems to run great for a few minutes and it idles like a champ. As soon as we hit the in town highways it starts to miss as soon as I accelerate, especially in the 2200 to 3000 RMP range when I put it into overdrive and give it some gas. I know it seems like a fuel problem but they have assured me the flow is there and it is electrical after pulling the carbs and cleaning them. We replaced or checked the distributor (rebuilt), plugs, wires, coil, condenser, points, timing, new rotor, carbs cleaned and rich needles installed (they were rebuilt by Jim Taylor). Shoot me some ideas. The bill is out of sight. I suppose it is possible that some of the replacement parts are bad to so I am going to make up a new set of high quality plug wires, new Lucas cap, another new British Car Specialists rotor, condenser, and plug end caps. Daniel A Stromquist Certified Public Accountant 7801 East Bush Lake Rd, Suite 430 Bloomington, MN 55439 Home Phone: 952-949-2718 Work Phone: 952-831-1340 Ext 1 Work Fax: 952-831-5657 Cell Phone: 952-994-2718 Home E-mail: danstromquist at comcast.net Work E-mail: dan at warner-associates.com This notice is required by IRS Circular 230, which regulates written communications about federal tax matters between tax advisors and their clients. To the extent the preceding correspondence and/or attachment is a written tax advice communication, it is not a full "covered opinion." Accordingly, this advice is not intended and cannot be used for the purpose From shop at justbrits.com Mon Jul 28 14:29:13 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:29:13 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] reversing polarity 66 BJ8 In-Reply-To: <000001c8f0c2$1eb94880$1e00000a@DANSTROM> Message-ID: <> Might just be a 'plug' also, Dan !! From dan at warner-associates.com Mon Jul 28 13:38:05 2008 From: dan at warner-associates.com (Dan Stromquist) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:38:05 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Still Missing under load 64 BJ8 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <004101c8f0e9$74d37340$1e00000a@DANSTROM> Roland: 1. Only misses after warmed up and comes on gradually until I don't think I can even make it back. 2. Does not seem to miss when it is cold but hisses, coughs and sputters when I hit the gas hard while at idle even when warmed up for a few minutes under no load (with the choke all the way out does help). We put in rich needles in the carbs. I am going to put a meter on the exhaust and check the mixture at high speed load as well as at idle. Even after fully warmed up sometimes I think it is going to outright quit when I come to a stop light and the RPM drops to about 500. 3. It misses whether in overdrive or not but is much more noticeable under load especially while in OD and running at around 2200-3000 RPM. It does miss at higher RPM but not as bad or noticeable it seems to me. 4. The symptoms seem to subside when I let up on the load and cruise easy ( I baby it back home worried it will quit on me). Dan -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+dan=warner-associates.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+dan=warner-associates.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Roland Wilhelmy Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 11:56 AM To: 'Austin Healey list' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Still Missing under load 64 BJ8 Dan- It certainly could be either faulty new parts or not quite rightly installed good new parts. Barring that .... Maybe you could clarify your symptom description. While cold, does the car start to miss as soon as you accelerate, or does it only start to miss after it is warmed up? If you pull the choke out do the symptoms go away? If you leave it out of overdrive does it miss? If you get the engine running above 3000 rpm, do the symptoms subside? If you drive at, say 3500 rpm for a couple of miles do you get the symptoms? Are the symptoms dependent on the load on the engine, as in are they dependent on how far down your foot is on the accelerator pedal? Do the symptoms subside if you lift up a bit on the accelerator pedal, or does it continue to run rough after that? -Roland On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:23:14 -0500, you wrote: ::My local shop here in Minneapolis cannot seem to figure out why the car ::misses under load. After a good warm up, it seems to run great for a few ::minutes and it idles like a champ. As soon as we hit the in town highways ::it starts to miss as soon as I accelerate, especially in the 2200 to 3000 ::RMP range when I put it into overdrive and give it some gas. Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as dan at warner-associates.com http://www.team.net/archive From dan at warner-associates.com Mon Jul 28 13:42:45 2008 From: dan at warner-associates.com (Dan Stromquist) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:42:45 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Missing under load 64 BJ8 Message-ID: <004501c8f0ea$1c0df770$1e00000a@DANSTROM> Dave: I have 2 new condensers I bought from BCS and will replace that immediately along with the rotor. Incidentally, Jeff at Advanced said he has seen condensers test out OK but still be faulty in service. Dan -----Original Message----- From: Dave Porter [mailto:frogeye at porterscustom.com] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 1:22 PM To: 'Dan Stromquist'; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Healeys] Missing under load 64 BJ8 If it misses randomly, no one cylinder in particular then it's probably a bad condenser. Dave frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 Porter Custom Bicycles www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+frogeye=porterscustom.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+frogeye=porterscustom.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dan Stromquist Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 8:56 AM To: 'Healey List Emails' Cc: 'Advanced Distributors' Subject: [Healeys] Missing under load 64 BJ8 My local shop here in Minneapolis cannot seem to figure out why the car misses under load. After a good warm up, it seems to run great for a few minutes and it idles like a champ. As soon as we hit the in town highways it starts to miss as soon as I accelerate, especially in the 2200 to 3000 RMP range when I put it into overdrive and give it some gas. I know it seems like a fuel problem but they have assured me the flow is there and it is electrical after pulling the carbs and cleaning them. We replaced or checked the distributor (rebuilt), plugs, wires, coil, condenser, points, timing, new rotor, carbs cleaned and rich needles installed (they were rebuilt by Jim Taylor). Shoot me some ideas. The bill is out of sight. I suppose it is possible that some of the replacement parts are bad to so I am going to make up a new set of high quality plug wires, new Lucas cap, another new British Car Specialists rotor, condenser, and plug end caps. Daniel A Stromquist Certified Public Accountant 7801 East Bush Lake Rd, Suite 430 Bloomington, MN 55439 Home Phone: 952-949-2718 Work Phone: 952-831-1340 Ext 1 Work Fax: 952-831-5657 Cell Phone: 952-994-2718 Home E-mail: danstromquist at comcast.net Work E-mail: dan at warner-associates.com This notice is required by IRS Circular 230, which regulates written communications about federal tax matters between tax advisors and their clients. To the extent the preceding correspondence and/or attachment is a written tax advice communication, it is not a full "covered opinion." Accordingly, this advice is not intended and cannot be used for the purpose From MEDITIONM at msn.com Mon Jul 28 14:53:26 2008 From: MEDITIONM at msn.com (KENNETH MASON) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:53:26 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Missing under load Message-ID: Could loose-leaking throttle shafts cause this problem? Ken Mason BJ7 in work From al at bighealey.org Mon Jul 28 17:13:29 2008 From: al at bighealey.org (Al Fuller) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:13:29 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Tri-Carb choke cables - securing Message-ID: <000401c8f107$8d574130$c801a8c0@ARIZONA> The choke cables on my '62 Tri-carb have been messed-about by prior owners, and will not stay seated in the brass mounting on the carburetors OR in the lever barrel at the upper ends. The result is that once the engine is warmed up and I want the choke back in, the cable sheaths jump out of the mounts at the carburetors and push away from the barrels at the upper ends - allowing the cable centers to bow instead of pushing the choke levers back down, and as a result this holds the chokes open. At the upper ends, the lever ends of the cables appear to be missing the bit that transitions from the cable sheath to the interior cable body. I think those are supposed to hold the cable in the barrel, so the cables are flopping about at that end, too. SO - the questions are whether these cables can be repaired [if so, how], and what is supposed to hold the cables in the carb and in the barrel? There is no black plastic covering any of the cables, so if it was supposed to serve that function, I will need another approach. My first thought is that I can solder the ends down at the carb, but I would still have the upper ends to deal with. Thanks in advance, Al Fuller '62 BT-7 Tri-Carb Fuller Compliance, LLC Quality Systems Consulting Software Quality, Validation + 21 CFR Part 11 714.335.0248 www.fullercompliance.com From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Mon Jul 28 18:12:40 2008 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:12:40 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Still Missing under load 64 BJ8 In-Reply-To: <000901c8f0c5$daebf720$1e00000a@DANSTROM> References: <000901c8f0c5$daebf720$1e00000a@DANSTROM> Message-ID: <6A6B57A4B8D84408858A0FE941719FD4@PatrickQuinnPC> G'day Had the same problem with the BN3 that took me months to track down. Replaced everything in sight, cleaned out the tank - you name it and I did it. Years back I had installed a plastic inline filter near the outlet to the fuel pump and I changed the filter as well. It still fluffed and fartarsed about on acceleration when warmed up. So I turned my thinking of what it was like when new. So I removed the inline filter. It worked perfectly and have no had the problem since. I chucked the filter to the shithouse. I put it down to the filter not having a sufficiently large fuel flow capacity. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+p_cquinn=tpg.com.au at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+p_cquinn=tpg.com.au at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dan Stromquist Sent: Tuesday, 29 July 2008 1:23 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Still Missing under load 64 BJ8 Listers: My local shop here in Minneapolis cannot seem to figure out why the car misses under load. After a good warm up, it seems to run great for a few minutes and it idles like a champ. As soon as we hit the in town highways it starts to miss as soon as I accelerate, especially in the 2200 to 3000 RMP range when I put it into overdrive and give it some gas. I know it seems like a fuel problem but they have assured me the flow is there and it is electrical after pulling the carbs and cleaning them. We replaced or checked the distributor (rebuilt), plugs, wires, coil, condenser, points, timing, new rotor, carbs cleaned and rich needles installed (they were rebuilt by Jim Taylor). Shoot me some ideas. The bill is out of sight. I suppose it is possible that some of the replacement parts are bad to so I am going to make up a new set of high quality plug wires, new Lucas cap, another new British Car Specialists rotor, condenser, and plug end caps Dan From ah3000me at gmail.com Mon Jul 28 18:27:11 2008 From: ah3000me at gmail.com (T W) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 20:27:11 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Donald Stokes Message-ID: fyi - Lord Donald Stokes, blamed by some for the demise of the AH 3000 and Mini Cooper, died at age 94: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/28/business/28stokes.html?ex=1217908800&en=2a11dfc9e75ea793&ei=5070&emc=eta1 From ah3000me at gmail.com Mon Jul 28 18:31:58 2008 From: ah3000me at gmail.com (T W) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 20:31:58 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] oil pressure In-Reply-To: <005901c8f0d5$d2f65b40$78e311c0$@rr.com> References: <007901c8f0c7$626e67e0$5201a8c0@Jim> <005901c8f0d5$d2f65b40$78e311c0$@rr.com> Message-ID: Ditto for mine... does this mean that we're not getting oil circulating at idle on really hot days? - Tom On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 1:17 PM, BJ8Healeys wrote: > Jim, I think that's typical for a Healey engine. Since an engine rebuild > in > 1999 (I did not replace the oil pump), my BJ8 has run at just under 40 psi > on the gauge when fully warmed up. On really hot days (such as we had on > the trip to and from Conclave), the oil pressure dropped to just above zero > at idle. I am using 20W-50 Castrol with the ZDDPlus additive. > > Steve Byers > HBJ8L/36666 > BJ8 Registry > Havelock, NC > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces+sbyers =ec.rr.com@ > autox.team.net] On Behalf Of James > Shope > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 8:34 AM > To: healeys > Subject: [Healeys] oil pressure > > with it getting hotter and hotter each day here in vegas, i have watched my > oil pressure drop down to almost zero when idling after the oil has gotten > very hot. i suspect the oil pump but i removed the valve cover to check > pressure at idle. oil is coming out all of the rockers as normal, and when > i > loosed the oil feed nut on the rocker arm, oil shot out all over my engine > bay > at what i considered a very good pressure. any idea what could be the > problem. have checked bearings and they are in excellent shape. could it > be > the oil pump or something wrong in the oil distribution system? > healeymanjim > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as ah3000me at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From mike.vasquez at gmail.com Mon Jul 28 19:22:58 2008 From: mike.vasquez at gmail.com (Mike Vasquez) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:22:58 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] synthetic oils In-Reply-To: <005401c8f0cd$c777fab0$021919ac@valued28addca9> References: <004601c8ef8f$bdd23190$5201a8c0@Jim> <488C0405.6070300@pacbell.net> <005401c8f0cd$c777fab0$021919ac@valued28addca9> Message-ID: <28f529ba0807281822k2e33e57fva412fa27b40b0513@mail.gmail.com> Heh. Or maybe all the oil was gone.... :-) On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Bob Johnson wrote: > The fellow at Tractor Supply said, during our conversation, that he had put > synthetic oil in his '58 Chevy pickup. It leaked like crazy for a few days > then quit. He hypothesized that the new synthetic had to rejuvenate the > seals and gaskets and once that was done life was good again. > > Bob Johnson > BJ8 >> >> The same happened to a friend of mine in his early BN1 #484. Years ago >> he did an oil change to Mobile 1. He got up the next morning to find it >> all over his garage floor. That was enough for me to stay with Dino Oil. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as mike.vasquez at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From healey.nut at gmail.com Mon Jul 28 19:24:32 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:24:32 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Still Missing under load 64 BJ8 In-Reply-To: <000901c8f0c5$daebf720$1e00000a@DANSTROM> References: <000901c8f0c5$daebf720$1e00000a@DANSTROM> Message-ID: Dan - You should learn to do some of the diagnostics yourself. Most shops will just keep changing things and guessing just to run up the bill. I started doing my own diagnostics when i realized it's cheaper and faster to understand this stuff yourself. Trips back and forth to the mechanic are a pain in the b***. Take your car out on the highway and when you get up to speed and it starts missing lot, immediately turn off the motor and coast to a stop (ideally pull off an exit on the freeway). Take the tops off the fuel chambers and see if there is fuel in both bowls. At highway speeds both bowls should be full of fuel, but if one or both are empty then you know it is a fuel problem. I still think you are having a fuel delivery problem. They didn't check your tank and they didn't swap out your fuel pump (and filter if you have it)... they didn't do the things they are supposed to do. You can have partial flow and if they turn on the ignition in the garage and then check the float chambers it won't tell them anything because they will be full of fuel. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:23 PM, Dan Stromquist wrote: > Listers: > > > > > > My local shop here in Minneapolis cannot seem to figure out why the car > misses under load. After a good warm up, it seems to run great for a few > minutes and it idles like a champ. As soon as we hit the in town highways > it starts to miss as soon as I accelerate, especially in the 2200 to 3000 > RMP range when I put it into overdrive and give it some gas. I know it > seems like a fuel problem but they have assured me the flow is there and it > is electrical after pulling the carbs and cleaning them. We replaced or > checked the distributor (rebuilt), plugs, wires, coil, condenser, points, > timing, new rotor, carbs cleaned and rich needles installed (they were > rebuilt by Jim Taylor). Shoot me some ideas. The bill is out of sight. I > suppose it is possible that some of the replacement parts are bad to so I > am > going to make up a new set of high quality plug wires, new Lucas cap, > another new British Car Specialists rotor, condenser, and plug end caps > > > > Dan From healey.nut at gmail.com Mon Jul 28 19:26:47 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:26:47 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Still Missing under load 64 BJ8 In-Reply-To: References: <000901c8f0c5$daebf720$1e00000a@DANSTROM> Message-ID: Dan - I guess what I was trying to say is I don't like it when I hear of shops just swapping everything out - that means they are guessing. Most decent mechanics will identify the problem first before they fix anything. Do the diagnostic I describe - it will tell you everything you need to know. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 9:24 AM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > Dan - > > You should learn to do some of the diagnostics yourself. Most shops will > just keep changing things and guessing just to run up the bill. I started > doing my own diagnostics when i realized it's cheaper and faster to > understand this stuff yourself. Trips back and forth to the mechanic are a > pain in the b***. > > Take your car out on the highway and when you get up to speed and it starts > missing lot, immediately turn off the motor and coast to a stop (ideally > pull off an exit on the freeway). Take the tops off the fuel chambers and > see if there is fuel in both bowls. At highway speeds both bowls should be > full of fuel, but if one or both are empty then you know it is a fuel > problem. > > I still think you are having a fuel delivery problem. They didn't check > your tank and they didn't swap out your fuel pump (and filter if you have > it)... they didn't do the things they are supposed to do. You can have > partial flow and if they turn on the ignition in the garage and then check > the float chambers it won't tell them anything because they will be full of > fuel. > > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '64 BJ8 From healey.nut at gmail.com Mon Jul 28 19:40:00 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:40:00 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] oil pressure In-Reply-To: <007901c8f0c7$626e67e0$5201a8c0@Jim> References: <007901c8f0c7$626e67e0$5201a8c0@Jim> Message-ID: Jim - Oil pressure in all 50s and 60s Austin engines is controlled by the bypass valve and spring. You probably just need to replace the spring and that will cause your pressure to go up again. I would replace the valve (i.e. the plunger) and spring with every rebuild. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:34 PM, James Shope wrote: > with it getting hotter and hotter each day here in vegas, i have watched my > oil pressure drop down to almost zero when idling after the oil has gotten > very hot. i suspect the oil pump but i removed the valve cover to check > pressure at idle. oil is coming out all of the rockers as normal, and when > i > loosed the oil feed nut on the rocker arm, oil shot out all over my engine > bay > at what i considered a very good pressure. any idea what could be the > problem. have checked bearings and they are in excellent shape. could it > be > the oil pump or something wrong in the oil distribution system? > healeymanjim From healey.nut at gmail.com Mon Jul 28 20:06:12 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:06:12 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] synthetic oils In-Reply-To: <28f529ba0807281822k2e33e57fva412fa27b40b0513@mail.gmail.com> References: <004601c8ef8f$bdd23190$5201a8c0@Jim> <488C0405.6070300@pacbell.net> <005401c8f0cd$c777fab0$021919ac@valued28addca9> <28f529ba0807281822k2e33e57fva412fa27b40b0513@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I have MT90 in my BJ8 gearbox and I can tell you it leaks alot less than when I had 30wt in it. Putting it in six years ago I only had to top it up with less than half a quart just yesterday. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 9:22 AM, Mike Vasquez wrote: > Heh. Or maybe all the oil was gone.... > > :-) > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Bob Johnson > wrote: > > The fellow at Tractor Supply said, during our conversation, that he had > put > > synthetic oil in his '58 Chevy pickup. It leaked like crazy for a few > days > > then quit. He hypothesized that the new synthetic had to rejuvenate the > > seals and gaskets and once that was done life was good again. > > > > Bob Johnson > > BJ8 > >> > >> The same happened to a friend of mine in his early BN1 #484. Years ago > >> he did an oil change to Mobile 1. He got up the next morning to find it > >> all over his garage floor. That was enough for me to stay with Dino > Oil. > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > You are subscribed as mike.vasquez at gmail.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From dwflagg at juno.com Mon Jul 28 20:43:58 2008 From: dwflagg at juno.com (Douglas W Flagg) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:43:58 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Doug Newton Message-ID: <20080728.224359.3644.3.dwflagg@juno.com> Please contact me off the list. Thanks. Doug ____________________________________________________________ Click here to find experienced pros to help with your home improvement project. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nHrlWfHjtGpfZHsKNDFCHgFMSifta88kHU1xj0QTBU8oyXq/ From eschulz at frontiernet.net Mon Jul 28 20:46:44 2008 From: eschulz at frontiernet.net (Elton Schulz) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:46:44 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Radio antenna References: <006c01c8ef9b$f2b88f10$bf5d6546@655vb01> <5822DDDB6149416EB8B9CED7C5152BDA@XPS400> Message-ID: <000801c8f125$571fe090$bf5d6546@655vb01> It appears that way based on some of the disclaimers on their web sites. Elton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Fine" To: "Alan Seigrist" ; "Elton Schulz" Cc: "Healey List" Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 12:39 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Radio antenna > Am I correct in my understanding that these hidden antennas will not work > well or at all for AM radio?? > > Ron > >> Check out any decent online hot rodders shop, they all sell hideaway >> antennas. The downside of this is the reception may not be as good. >> Here's >> a couple of samples I found: >> >> http://autoloc.carshopinc.com/product_info.php/products_id/9206/HAB >> >> http://www.ecshylites.citymax.com/page/page/761353.htm From shop at justbrits.com Mon Jul 28 21:58:42 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:58:42 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Still Missing under load 64 BJ8 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Alan, you ARE hitting on all 6 cyls today!!!!! <> Agreed!!! <> 1000% CORRECT (and agreed!!) !! <> Absolutely. That IS automatic on ALL LBCs I do (and that covers a gamut). And I do agree replacing same now might just help. <> Actually, I was somewhat surprised by that?!?! This the Hong Kong car (can't keep track!!)?? Ed From pdeturck at rochester.rr.com Mon Jul 28 21:31:23 2008 From: pdeturck at rochester.rr.com (pdeturck at rochester.rr.com) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:31:23 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Missing under load 64 BJ8 In-Reply-To: <000101c8f0c2$1f6762d0$1e00000a@DANSTROM> References: <000101c8f0c2$1f6762d0$1e00000a@DANSTROM> Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.1.20080728231949.00fd0568@rochester.rr.com> Dan - I struggled with this issue (missing under load at approximately 3000 RPM) for almost a year on my BJ8. I, too, had replaced most of the electronics after determining that fuel flow was NOT the problem. I watched the car in a dark environment and saw the fireworks and arcing described by other listers. I corrected that with new wires and cap but the problem persisted. One day while driving, the engine quit completely. One of my co-workers joked that I now had a steady state problem rather than an intermittent one. He was right. I traced the failure to the "new" rotor I had installed while troubleshooting my original problem. Replacing the rotor with ANOTHER new one not only got my Healey running again but also solved my missing under load at 3K RPM problem under load. I now carry a couple of rotors as spares which I have installed in my car and verified that they work at the full RPM range. Rotors are notorious for their failures (as evidenced by many, many comments on this list.) Do not assume that, just because you have replaced yours, that it works perfectly. Just one individual's personal experience. -pd- '66 BJ8 At 10:56 AM 7/28/2008, Dan Stromquist wrote: >My local shop here in Minneapolis cannot seem to figure out why the car >misses under load. After a good warm up, it seems to run great for a few >minutes and it idles like a champ. As soon as we hit the in town highways >it starts to miss as soon as I accelerate, especially in the 2200 to 3000 >RMP range when I put it into overdrive and give it some gas. I know it >seems like a fuel problem but they have assured me the flow is there and it >is electrical after pulling the carbs and cleaning them. We replaced or >checked the distributor (rebuilt), plugs, wires, coil, condenser, points, >timing, new rotor, carbs cleaned and rich needles installed (they were >rebuilt by Jim Taylor). Shoot me some ideas. The bill is out of sight. I >suppose it is possible that some of the replacement parts are bad to so I am >going to make up a new set of high quality plug wires, new Lucas cap, >another new British Car Specialists rotor, condenser, and plug end caps. > > > >Daniel A Stromquist From healey.nut at gmail.com Mon Jul 28 21:48:31 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:48:31 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Oil leak at clutch housing In-Reply-To: <699480.82319.qm@web58207.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <699480.82319.qm@web58207.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: This gets an award for using "turkey baster" and "dipstick" all in the same sentence. The only one better is when you use "hammer" and "Lucas parts" all in the same sentence! ;) Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 2:21 AM, Maurice Maxwell wrote: > Why not remove some oil from the tranny by using a rubber tube attached to > something like a turkey baster through the dipstick hole? > > Max > 1961 BT-7 From richard.ewald at gmail.com Mon Jul 28 22:42:21 2008 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:42:21 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Oil leak at clutch housing In-Reply-To: References: <699480.82319.qm@web58207.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Even though you might be tempted, do not try to adjust the points on your Lucas distributor using a 3lb. sledge hammer. How did I do? :-) Rick On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 8:48 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > This gets an award for using "turkey baster" and "dipstick" all in the same > sentence. The only one better is when you use "hammer" and "Lucas parts" > all in the same sentence! > > ;) > > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '64 BJ8 > > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 2:21 AM, Maurice Maxwell >wrote: > > > Why not remove some oil from the tranny by using a rubber tube attached > to > > something like a turkey baster through the dipstick hole? > > > > Max > > 1961 BT-7 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richard.ewald at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From richard.ewald at gmail.com Mon Jul 28 22:56:05 2008 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:56:05 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] oil pressure In-Reply-To: References: <007901c8f0c7$626e67e0$5201a8c0@Jim> Message-ID: The bypass valve and spring only limit the maximum pressure, they do not control the pressure at idle (Unless the valve itself is leaking) Low indicated oil pressure at (hot) idle can be from just a few sources: inaccurate gauge worn oil pump leaky bypass valve oil pump pickup sucking air worn main bearings wrong weight oil / low oil level. I have never tried the following on a Healey, but if you suspect a leaky bypass valve, one trick we used to use on MGB and Spriget engines was to remove the nut that holds the spring and valve. Make sure the valve face is clean, if in doubt crank the engine to flush the passage way. Reinstall the valve, and drop a short 1/4X20 bolt inside the spring. Reinstall spring and nut. The thickness of the bolt head will increase the pressure on the valve. You should see an increase in cold oil pressure, and if the valve was leaking, maybe an increase in hot oil pressure. On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 6:40 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > Jim - > > Oil pressure in all 50s and 60s Austin engines is controlled by the bypass > valve and spring. You probably just need to replace the spring and that > will cause your pressure to go up again. I would replace the valve (i.e. > the plunger) and spring with every rebuild. > > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '64 BJ8 > > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:34 PM, James Shope >wrote: > > > with it getting hotter and hotter each day here in vegas, i have watched > my > > oil pressure drop down to almost zero when idling after the oil has > gotten > > very hot. i suspect the oil pump but i removed the valve cover to check > > pressure at idle. oil is coming out all of the rockers as normal, and > when > > i > > loosed the oil feed nut on the rocker arm, oil shot out all over my > engine > > bay > > at what i considered a very good pressure. any idea what could be the > > problem. have checked bearings and they are in excellent shape. could > it > > be > > the oil pump or something wrong in the oil distribution system? > > healeymanjim > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richard.ewald at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From rnbmail at yahoo.com Mon Jul 28 23:33:14 2008 From: rnbmail at yahoo.com (Robert Blair) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:33:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Fw: BJ8 Tops, Tonneaus and Covers ..... questions. Message-ID: <600424.61068.qm@web37904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Listers, A bit boring, but any suggestions?? Robert N. Blair 65 Yellow BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com --- On Sun, 7/27/08, Robert Blair wrote: > From: Robert Blair > Subject: BJ8 Tops, Tonneaus and Covers ..... questions. > To: "Healey List" > Date: Sunday, July 27, 2008, 12:57 PM > Hi Listers, > > 1. Tops: I recently bought a VERY cheap new black vinyl > soft top for my BJ8 on ebay. I was careless and did not > pay attention to the details, as the ad said 'all big > healey models bla bla'. It arrived with 12 stud > snappers around the rear of the hood - no good for the BJ8. > But still a nice top - anyone interested in it email me off > line at rnb at ix.netcom.com > Question - where should I go for a good BJ8 top - the > canvas mercedes type of material? > 2. Tonneau: I have a tonneau that came with the car 20 > years ago. It fits the car, but has 5 snapper studs around > the rear and 2 on each side. I believe only 2 are used on > the BJ8 at the rear, so I have 3 unused studs in the > middle. Which healey uses 5 rear snappers? > Question; where should i go for a good BJ8 tonneau in the > future? > 3. Top Cover/Boot: I have no cover - where should I go to > get a good cover. > > Appreciate your BJ8 experiences on price, quality and fit. > > Robert N. Blair 65 Yellow BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com > From rchaskell at earthlink.net Tue Jul 29 04:26:30 2008 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:26:30 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Tri-Carb choke cables - securing In-Reply-To: <000401c8f107$8d574130$c801a8c0@ARIZONA> References: <000401c8f107$8d574130$c801a8c0@ARIZONA> Message-ID: <488EF056.5040008@earthlink.net> Al, Sounds like the inner cable and outer housing are sticking together. Have you taken the cables apart and cleaned them? Is the inner cable intact - no broken strands or kinks that would bind in the housing? Make sure there aren't any burrs at the ends of the housings that will catch the inner cable. The outer sheath is to keep water (rust) out of the housing. I trimmed the sheath off each end so that the housing would fit in the ferrules. For lubrication, I used some Lubriplate grease that I've used for bicycle cables. Another thought - are the three cables going to the carbs nice and long with gentle, large radius curves? If the housings are too short, then the inner cables will bind. May-be the first thing to check, be sure the choke assembly on each carb is moving freely (without the choke cable attached). Bob '62 BT7 Al Fuller wrote: > The choke cables on my '62 Tri-carb have been messed-about by prior owners, > and will not stay seated in the brass mounting on the carburetors OR in the > lever barrel at the upper ends. The result is that once the engine is > warmed up and I want the choke back in, the cable sheaths jump out of the > mounts at the carburetors and push away from the barrels at the upper ends - > allowing the cable centers to bow instead of pushing the choke levers back > down, and as a result this holds the chokes open. From richchrysler at quickclic.net Tue Jul 29 05:56:03 2008 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 07:56:03 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Tri-Carb choke cables - securing Message-ID: <016401c8f172$139ef750$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> The original message was too big so I chopped it and resent. Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich C" To: "Al Fuller" ; Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:20 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Tri-Carb choke cables - securing > Al, > > The secondary cables on the tri-carb are held in place all the way along > by the return spring pressures of the HS series choke activating levers on > the carb body. The trunnion that passes through the appropriate sprung > lever and anchors the inner cable lower end needs to be adjusted to > maintain this spring tension on the inner cable at all times. The > adjustment needs to be such that when the sprung choke lever on the carb > is just fully at rest there is no excess play allowance in the inner cable > travel and the upper end is fully seated into the counterbore relief on > the activating lever trunnion. > Of course before you go after anything, ensure the choke activating levers > on the carbs are sprung properly and are able to bring the jet fully back > to rest. If it can't the problem bay be the jet being out of centre. It's > critical that the jet is properly centred, then the spring pressure on the > levers can do their job. > Obviously the secondary cables have been replaced at some time because it > sounds like the proper small diameter upper end is not able to seat into > the counterbore properly. besides that, the secondary cables on the > tricarb all had black outer sheathing, same as a bicycle cable. In fact I > have replaced all these secondary cables by carefully shopping at a good > bicycle shop making sure the ends are as original and can seat properly at > both ends. > Sorry I'm rambling a bit, I'm just typing as I think of these different > problems. That should give you a good start of things to check and adjust > though. > > Rich Chrysler > (owned tricarb BT7L / 18718 for 9 wonderful years and thousands of trouble > free miles) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Al Fuller" > To: > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 7:13 PM > Subject: [Healeys] Tri-Carb choke cables - securing > > >> The choke cables on my '62 Tri-carb have been messed-about by prior >> owners, >> and will not stay seated in the brass mounting on the carburetors OR in >> the >> lever barrel at the upper ends. The result is that once the engine is >> warmed up and I want the choke back in, the cable sheaths jump out of the >> mounts at the carburetors and push away from the barrels at the upper >> ends - >> allowing the cable centers to bow instead of pushing the choke levers >> back >> down, and as a result this holds the chokes open. Suggestions?? From steveg at abrazosdata.com Tue Jul 29 07:02:10 2008 From: steveg at abrazosdata.com (Steve B. Gerow) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:02:10 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Castrol Classic Oil Message-ID: Here is a link to Castrol's full-zinc oil: http://tiny.cc/aGuOA -- Steve Gerow Pasadena CA 59 BN6 From frogeye at porterscustom.com Tue Jul 29 07:18:44 2008 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (Dave Porter) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 07:18:44 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Castrol Classic Oil In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080729131831.F268B1878D6@autox.team.net> What's the cost? frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 Porter Custom Bicycles www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+frogeye=porterscustom.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+frogeye=porterscustom.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steve B. Gerow Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:02 AM To: Healeys Newsgroup Subject: [Healeys] Castrol Classic Oil Here is a link to Castrol's full-zinc oil: http://tiny.cc/aGuOA -- Steve Gerow Pasadena CA 59 BN6 Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as frogeye at porterscustom.com http://www.team.net/archive From steveg at abrazosdata.com Tue Jul 29 07:22:14 2008 From: steveg at abrazosdata.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Steve=20B.=20Gerow?=) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 05:22:14 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?Castrol_Classic_Oil?= Message-ID: <20080729132214.17078.qmail@hoster902.com> Dave, Don't know. Just found it by searching their site. I believe this is new for them. A couple of weeks ago Castrol was 'studying' the zddp problem. Not sure if it's on the shelves yet. -- Steve Gerow > -------Original Message------- > From: Dave Porter > Subject: RE: [Healeys] Castrol Classic Oil > Sent: Jul 29 '08 05:18 > > What's the cost? > > frogeye at porterscustom.com > > Porter Customs > Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 > 505-352-1378 > 1954 BN2 > Porter Custom Bicycles > www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html > http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces+frogeye=porterscustom.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces+frogeye=porterscustom.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf > Of Steve B. Gerow > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:02 AM > To: Healeys Newsgroup > Subject: [Healeys] Castrol Classic Oil > > Here is a link to Castrol's full-zinc oil: > > http://tiny.cc/aGuOA > -- > Steve Gerow > Pasadena CA > 59 BN6 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as frogeye at porterscustom.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From robert.w.johnson at charter.net Tue Jul 29 07:45:11 2008 From: robert.w.johnson at charter.net (Bob Johnson) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:45:11 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Tri-Carb choke cables - securing References: <000401c8f107$8d574130$c801a8c0@ARIZONA> Message-ID: <007201c8f181$52803bf0$021919ac@valued28addca9> I would really look at the choke assembly itself. When this was my problem, I found that the assy was so stiff that the choke would barely move, open or close, via the cables. That was what was causing all the cable movement that you describe. It may actually NOT be a DPO problem. Bob Johnson BJ8 > The choke cables on my '62 Tri-carb have been messed-about by prior > owners, > and will not stay seated in the brass mounting on the carburetors OR in > the > lever barrel at the upper ends. From rahosmer at citlink.net Tue Jul 29 07:46:00 2008 From: rahosmer at citlink.net (Richard Hosmer) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:46:00 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Castrol Classic Oil In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Steve, Thanks for the link, but, I see that it is a synthetic. Anyone still make an "old -fashioned real oil" oil, with enough zinc? My engine has never been apart, and I'm just about down to my last can of 1970s-era Castrol. Dick Hosmer BT7 tricarb From robert.w.johnson at charter.net Tue Jul 29 07:47:42 2008 From: robert.w.johnson at charter.net (Bob Johnson) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:47:42 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] synthetic oils References: <004601c8ef8f$bdd23190$5201a8c0@Jim> <488C0405.6070300@pacbell.net><005401c8f0cd$c777fab0$021919ac@valued28addca9> <28f529ba0807281822k2e33e57fva412fa27b40b0513@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <007701c8f181$aca6d8f0$021919ac@valued28addca9> I somehow knew, before I even hit the send button, that someone would say this;^) Bob Johnson BJ8 > Heh. Or maybe all the oil was gone.... > > :-) From maxandreb1 at yahoo.com Tue Jul 29 07:50:25 2008 From: maxandreb1 at yahoo.com (Maurice Maxwell) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:50:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Oil leak at clutch housing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <639591.57456.qm@web58205.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Alan, thanks I need an award for something! Thanks, Max 1961 BT-7 --- On Mon, 7/28/08, Alan Seigrist wrote: > From: Alan Seigrist > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil leak at clutch housing > To: maxandreb1 at yahoo.com > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Monday, July 28, 2008, 11:48 PM > This gets an award for using "turkey baster" and > "dipstick" all in the same > sentence. The only one better is when you use > "hammer" and "Lucas parts" > all in the same sentence! > > ;) > > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '64 BJ8 > > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 2:21 AM, Maurice Maxwell > wrote: > > > Why not remove some oil from the tranny by using a > rubber tube attached to > > something like a turkey baster through the dipstick > hole? > > > > Max > > 1961 BT-7 From robert.w.johnson at charter.net Tue Jul 29 07:52:21 2008 From: robert.w.johnson at charter.net (Bob Johnson) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:52:21 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Castrol Classic Oil References: Message-ID: <007e01c8f182$52faa6a0$021919ac@valued28addca9> I just can't see, as would be my case, dripping more expensive synthetic oil onto the gargage floor. Maybe I'm just cheap. BTW, I did call Castrol about this oil. It is only available as Syntec, no conventional equivalent. Bob Johnson BJ8 > Here is a link to Castrol's full-zinc oil: > > http://tiny.cc/aGuOA > -- > http://www.team.net/archive From robert.w.johnson at charter.net Tue Jul 29 07:58:36 2008 From: robert.w.johnson at charter.net (Bob Johnson) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:58:36 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Castrol Classic Oil References: Message-ID: <008f01c8f183$32a827f0$021919ac@valued28addca9> Yes. As I said, but perhaps not to clearly, a couple of days ago, Tractor Supply Co. has API-SL oil availble. It is conventional (has to be to have the API spec) motor oil. Available in single and multi grade formulations. Additionally, they have non-detergent oil available for the tranny, Bob Johnson BJ8 > > Thanks for the link, but, I see that it is a synthetic. Anyone still make > an > "old -fashioned real oil" oil, with enough zinc? My engine has never been > apart, and I'm just about down to my last can of 1970s-era Castrol. From mgcharlie at comcast.net Tue Jul 29 08:20:34 2008 From: mgcharlie at comcast.net (Charlie Baldwin) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:20:34 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Castrol Classic Oil In-Reply-To: <008f01c8f183$32a827f0$021919ac@valued28addca9> References: <008f01c8f183$32a827f0$021919ac@valued28addca9> Message-ID: <488F2732.2070002@comcast.net> Bob, I checked at Tractor Supply last week and didn't see any 20W-50. Perhaps what they had was SL rated, but wasn't the right viscosity. Charlie Baldwin Bob Johnson wrote: > Yes. As I said, but perhaps not to clearly, a couple of days ago, Tractor > Supply Co. has API-SL oil availble. It is conventional (has to be to have > the API spec) motor oil. Available in single and multi grade formulations. > Additionally, they have non-detergent oil available for the tranny, > > Bob Johnson > BJ8 > >> Thanks for the link, but, I see that it is a synthetic. Anyone still make >> an >> "old -fashioned real oil" oil, with enough zinc? My engine has never been >> apart, and I'm just about down to my last can of 1970s-era Castrol. >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as mgcharlie at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of mgcharlie.vcf] From Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com Tue Jul 29 08:31:42 2008 From: Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 07:31:42 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Castrol Classic Oil In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D904E98@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> There is a Valvoline "racing" oil that has the ZDDP. Go to their web site. It is not synthetic. I got a case last week. There are two racing oils, get the street version, the other stuff is probably made with too little of the other additives we like. Ken Freese 65 BJ8 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+ken.freese=aerojet.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+ken.freese=aerojet.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard Hosmer Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:46 AM To: Steve B. Gerow; Healeys Newsgroup Subject: Re: [Healeys] Castrol Classic Oil Steve, Thanks for the link, but, I see that it is a synthetic. Anyone still make an "old -fashioned real oil" oil, with enough zinc? My engine has never been apart, and I'm just about down to my last can of 1970s-era Castrol. Dick Hosmer BT7 tricarb _ From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 08:32:59 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 22:32:59 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Castrol Classic Oil In-Reply-To: <20080729131831.F268B1878D6@autox.team.net> References: <20080729131831.F268B1878D6@autox.team.net> Message-ID: Dave - I had a friend buy a case of this for me at NAPA in California. The price was very reasonable.. about 2 something a quart. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 9:18 PM, Dave Porter wrote: > What's the cost? > > frogeye at porterscustom.com > > Porter Customs > Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 > 505-352-1378 > 1954 BN2 > Porter Custom Bicycles > www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html > http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces+frogeye=porterscustom.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces+frogeye = > porterscustom.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf > Of Steve B. Gerow > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:02 AM > To: Healeys Newsgroup > Subject: [Healeys] Castrol Classic Oil > > Here is a link to Castrol's full-zinc oil: > > http://tiny.cc/aGuOA > -- > Steve Gerow > Pasadena CA > 59 BN6 > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as frogeye at porterscustom.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From pennell at cox.net Tue Jul 29 08:50:32 2008 From: pennell at cox.net (pennell at cox.net) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:50:32 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Oil leak at clutch housing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080729105032.3QQ9O.67954.imail@eastrmwml37> When the Lucas parts in the disty caused misfiring I took a hammer to them and they worked just fine??? :) Keith Pennell > This gets an award for using "turkey baster" and "dipstick" all in the same > sentence. The only one better is when you use "hammer" and "Lucas parts" > all in the same sentence! > > ;) > > Alan From dan at warner-associates.com Tue Jul 29 09:02:36 2008 From: dan at warner-associates.com (Dan Stromquist) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:02:36 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Still Missing under load 64 BJ8 In-Reply-To: <6A6B57A4B8D84408858A0FE941719FD4@PatrickQuinnPC> Message-ID: <002101c8f18c$22fde840$1e00000a@DANSTROM> Patrick: I will try running withhout the filter tonight. I changed out the wires, plug caps, rotor and cap last night (checked everything with an Ohm meter first). No change. -----Original Message----- From: Patrick and Caroline Quinn [mailto:p_cquinn at tpg.com.au] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 7:13 PM To: 'Dan Stromquist'; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Healeys] Still Missing under load 64 BJ8 G'day Had the same problem with the BN3 that took me months to track down. Replaced everything in sight, cleaned out the tank - you name it and I did it. Years back I had installed a plastic inline filter near the outlet to the fuel pump and I changed the filter as well. It still fluffed and fartarsed about on acceleration when warmed up. So I turned my thinking of what it was like when new. So I removed the inline filter. It worked perfectly and have no had the problem since. I chucked the filter to the shithouse. I put it down to the filter not having a sufficiently large fuel flow capacity. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+p_cquinn=tpg.com.au at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+p_cquinn=tpg.com.au at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dan Stromquist Sent: Tuesday, 29 July 2008 1:23 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Still Missing under load 64 BJ8 Listers: My local shop here in Minneapolis cannot seem to figure out why the car misses under load. After a good warm up, it seems to run great for a few minutes and it idles like a champ. As soon as we hit the in town highways it starts to miss as soon as I accelerate, especially in the 2200 to 3000 RMP range when I put it into overdrive and give it some gas. I know it seems like a fuel problem but they have assured me the flow is there and it is electrical after pulling the carbs and cleaning them. We replaced or checked the distributor (rebuilt), plugs, wires, coil, condenser, points, timing, new rotor, carbs cleaned and rich needles installed (they were rebuilt by Jim Taylor). Shoot me some ideas. The bill is out of sight. I suppose it is possible that some of the replacement parts are bad to so I am going to make up a new set of high quality plug wires, new Lucas cap, another new British Car Specialists rotor, condenser, and plug end caps Dan From AHMG at aol.com Tue Jul 29 09:24:10 2008 From: AHMG at aol.com (AHMG at aol.com) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:24:10 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Heat Insulation Message-ID: I recall this being discuss in the past but can not find it in the archives. Any advice on the list for the best product to control heat into the the car? What is the best results and products for insulating the floor, tunnel etc to keep the heat out!!! I know the thickness of certain materials may cause some problems. Ken 66 BJ8 **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) From dan at warner-associates.com Tue Jul 29 09:35:11 2008 From: dan at warner-associates.com (Dan Stromquist) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:35:11 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Still Missing under load 64 BJ8 Message-ID: <002d01c8f190$b064a670$1e00000a@DANSTROM> Roland: I went home and ran it last night so I could give you accurate answers: 1. Seems to miss more after warmed up but does miss when it is cold. Pulling choke out does not affect anything. 2. It misses whether in overdrive or not but is much more noticeable under load especially while in OD and running at above RPM 2200. I don't dare get it to higher RPM than 3000 it starts to miss so bad. I tested it this morning and it did miss without a load but does seem to as bad. 3. The symptoms seem to subside when I let up on the load and cruise easy at lower RPM( I baby it back home under 2000 RPM worried it will quit). 4. I am now noticing a distinctive knock or loud ticking on start up that goes away after 30 seconds or so. If I rev it up the knock gets louder and more distinctive. Dan -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+dan=warner-associates.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+dan=warner-associates.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Roland Wilhelmy Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 11:56 AM To: 'Austin Healey list' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Still Missing under load 64 BJ8 Dan- It certainly could be either faulty new parts or not quite rightly installed good new parts. Barring that .... Maybe you could clarify your symptom description. While cold, does the car start to miss as soon as you accelerate, or does it only start to miss after it is warmed up? If you pull the choke out do the symptoms go away? If you leave it out of overdrive does it miss? If you get the engine running above 3000 rpm, do the symptoms subside? If you drive at, say 3500 rpm for a couple of miles do you get the symptoms? Are the symptoms dependent on the load on the engine, as in are they dependent on how far down your foot is on the accelerator pedal? Do the symptoms subside if you lift up a bit on the accelerator pedal, or does it continue to run rough after that? -Roland From covercash1 at aol.com Tue Jul 29 09:46:35 2008 From: covercash1 at aol.com (covercash1 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:46:35 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Castrol Classic Oil In-Reply-To: References: <20080729131831.F268B1878D6@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <8CABFA96A9FBBCD-140-389@webmail-md17.sysops.aol.com> I have bought the Castrol Classic at NAPA, but had to make sure I was sold the correct "Classic".? The first case was very inexpensive, but when I got home I found out that I did not have the fully synthetic 20/50.? The correct oil, which I am very pleased with, is more like $6 to $7 per quart.? NAPA does have sales on Castrol so be on the lookout for when this oil is on sale and save over a dollar a quart on it. I have been using this oil for two months and will continue to use it. Charlie -----Original Message----- From: Alan Seigrist To: Dave Porter Cc: Steve B. Gerow ; Healeys Newsgroup Sent: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:32 am Subject: Re: [Healeys] Castrol Classic Oil Dave - I had a friend buy a case of this for me at NAPA in California. The price was very reasonable.. about 2 something a quart. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 9:18 PM, Dave Porter wrote: > What's the cost? > > frogeye at porterscustom.com > > Porter Customs > Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 > 505-352-1378 > 1954 BN2 > Porter Custom Bicycles > www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html > http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces+frogeye=porterscustom.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces+frogeye = > porterscustom.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf > Of Steve B. Gerow > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:02 AM > To: Healeys Newsgroup > Subject: [Healeys] Castrol Classic Oil > > Here is a link to Castrol's full-zinc oil: > > http://tiny.cc/aGuOA > -- > Steve Gerow > Pasadena CA > 59 BN6 > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as frogeye at porterscustom.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as covercash1 at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive From tomfelts at windstream.net Tue Jul 29 10:09:57 2008 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (tomfelts at windstream.net) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:09:57 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Castrol Classic Oil Message-ID: <20080729160957.GCUM29060.ispmxmta06-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> Valvoline VR1 20/50 racing oil. ZDDP and conventional. tom > > From: Richard Hosmer > Date: 2008/07/29 Tue AM 09:46:00 EDT > To: "Steve B. Gerow" , Healeys Newsgroup > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Castrol Classic Oil > > Steve, > > Thanks for the link, but, I see that it is a synthetic. Anyone still make an > "old -fashioned real oil" oil, with enough zinc? My engine has never been > apart, and I'm just about down to my last can of 1970s-era Castrol. > > Dick Hosmer > BT7 tricarb > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From mike.vasquez at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 10:24:08 2008 From: mike.vasquez at gmail.com (Mike Vasquez) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:24:08 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] synthetic oils In-Reply-To: <007701c8f181$aca6d8f0$021919ac@valued28addca9> References: <004601c8ef8f$bdd23190$5201a8c0@Jim> <488C0405.6070300@pacbell.net> <005401c8f0cd$c777fab0$021919ac@valued28addca9> <28f529ba0807281822k2e33e57fva412fa27b40b0513@mail.gmail.com> <007701c8f181$aca6d8f0$021919ac@valued28addca9> Message-ID: <28f529ba0807290924w60778b82jf0e090036917f4ae@mail.gmail.com> It just seemed so amusingly plausible I couldn't resist :-) On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 6:47 AM, Bob Johnson wrote: > I somehow knew, before I even hit the send button, that someone would say > this;^) > > Bob Johnson > BJ8 > > > >> Heh. Or maybe all the oil was gone.... >> >> :-) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as mike.vasquez at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From alan.bromfield at virgin.net Tue Jul 29 11:58:11 2008 From: alan.bromfield at virgin.net (Alan Bromfield) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:58:11 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Castrol Classic Oil In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000d01c8f1a4$abe7e0d0$6601a8c0@Dell> The power of Marketing. The product is a synthetic as someone has already said - I personally won't go there due to the apparent 'searching' capability of the stuff. It seems able to pass through the gasket materials we use. More confusing however is the statement in the Product Data Sheet that it exceeds API SM! That would indicate no zinc for Cat. protection. The blurbs however says it has zinc for flat tappet protection and isn't compatible with Cats. A contradiction I wouldn't risk. Remember the simple rule - anything later than API SF is going downhill on the zddp content. Personally I use VR1 20/50 on the recommend from Mike Salter's blog. It's expensive over here in the UK, but then so is a new camshaft. _______________________________________________ (______________ Alan Bromfield _______________) (______ \__1957-BN4 x 2__/ _______) (______www.nfahc.co.uk____) -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+alan.bromfield=virgin.net at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+alan.bromfield=virgin.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steve B. Gerow Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:02 PM To: Healeys Newsgroup Subject: [Healeys] Castrol Classic Oil Here is a link to Castrol's full-zinc oil: http://tiny.cc/aGuOA -- Steve Gerow Pasadena CA 59 BN6 From Editorgary at aol.com Tue Jul 29 12:32:26 2008 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:32:26 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Lucas Distributors and hammers Message-ID: In a message dated 7/29/08 8:48:21 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > When the Lucas parts in the disty caused misfiring I took a hammer to them > and they worked just fine??? > I did that to mine as well, and haven't had a misfire since. Cheers Gary ************** Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) From BillHUCK at aol.com Tue Jul 29 12:53:07 2008 From: BillHUCK at aol.com (BillHUCK at aol.com) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:53:07 EDT Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?FW=3A=A0_Still_Missing_under_load_64_BJ8?= Message-ID: I come belatedly to this subject. I have driven four Healeys since 1965. I have weathered most of their problems. When I hear of disfunctions related to warm or hot engines I look to the coil. Some coils have an internal ballast resistor; such coils become hot to the touch because all of the IxIxR heat ends up in the coil, making it less efficient. Many such coils have been sold as high-output replacement devices. They probably work well in cooler climates. Your problem might be resolved by installing a coil that requires an external ballast resistor; such coils run so much cooler. An added attraction; cold starting is much improved. Bill Huck - BN-1 ************** Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) From mgcharlie at comcast.net Tue Jul 29 13:11:53 2008 From: mgcharlie at comcast.net (Charlie Baldwin) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:11:53 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Heat Insulation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <488F6B79.60605@comcast.net> Ken, Check out Southgate British for a precut kit in Koolmat for your car. Koolmat is supposed to cut down on both heat and noise. http://www.southgatebritish.com/97227-austinhealey3000mk36pckit.html Charlie Baldwin AHMG at aol.com wrote: > I recall this being discuss in the past but can not find it in the > archives. Any advice on the list for the best product to control heat into the the > car? What is the best results and products for insulating the floor, tunnel > etc to keep the heat out!!! I know the thickness of certain materials may cause > some problems. > > > Ken > 66 BJ8 > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as mgcharlie at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of mgcharlie.vcf] From ronald-ray at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 29 13:13:56 2008 From: ronald-ray at sbcglobal.net (Ronald J. Ray) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:13:56 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Still Missing under load 64 BJ8 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This probably has been investigated as well, but back in the early 1970s my Healey would run great until it warmed up. Then it would either just stop running altogether or miss. The problem was the fuel pump would tire out after a several minutes of use. Ron -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+ronald-ray=sbcglobal.net at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+ronald-ray=sbcglobal.net at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of BillHUCK at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 1:53 PM To: dan at warner-associates.com; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: Still Missing under load 64 BJ8 I come belatedly to this subject. I have driven four Healeys since 1965. I have weathered most of their problems. When I hear of disfunctions related to warm or hot engines I look to the coil. Some coils have an internal ballast resistor; such coils become hot to the touch because all of the IxIxR heat ends up in the coil, making it less efficient. Many such coils have been sold as high-output replacement devices. They probably work well in cooler climates. Your problem might be resolved by installing a coil that requires an external ballast resistor; such coils run so much cooler. An added attraction; cold starting is much improved. Bill Huck - BN-1 From flyhihealey at hotmail.com Tue Jul 29 13:21:30 2008 From: flyhihealey at hotmail.com (Warren Dietz) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:21:30 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Castrol Classic Oil In-Reply-To: <007e01c8f182$52faa6a0$021919ac@valued28addca9> References: <007e01c8f182$52faa6a0$021919ac@valued28addca9> Message-ID: What about the "High Mileage" oils. Don't they have the all the "stuff"? WD 67 BJ8(With lottsa miles and leaks) > > I just can't see, as would be my case, dripping more expensive synthetic oil > onto the gargage floor. Maybe I'm just cheap. > > BTW, I did call Castrol about this oil. It is only available as Syntec, no > conventional equivalent. > > Bob Johnson > BJ8 > > _________________________________________________________________ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. From rthrift at cox.net Tue Jul 29 14:08:07 2008 From: rthrift at cox.net (RThrift) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:08:07 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Still Missing under load 64 BJ8 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080729160807.CX9TM.50159.imail@fed1rmwml15> I've been holding off replying. But I've had a similar experience. I don't think the original post described symptoms that were too much different than mine. I replaced my original coil with a Lucas Sport & life is good again. I suppose this same problem can occur with new coils, too. Richard Thrift ---- BillHUCK at aol.com wrote: I come belatedly to this subject. I have driven four Healeys since 1965. I have weathered most of their problems. When I hear of disfunctions related to warm or hot engines I look to the coil. Some coils have an internal ballast resistor; such coils become hot to the touch because all of the IxIxR heat ends up in the coil, making it less efficient. Many such coils have been sold as high-output replacement devices. They probably work well in cooler climates. Your problem might be resolved by installing a coil that requires an external ballast resistor; such coils run so much cooler. An added attraction; cold starting is much improved. Bill Huck - BN-1 ************** Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as rthrift at cox.net http://www.team.net/archive From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Tue Jul 29 14:34:31 2008 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Leonard Hartnett) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:34:31 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Castrol Classic Oil In-Reply-To: <007e01c8f182$52faa6a0$021919ac@valued28addca9> References: <007e01c8f182$52faa6a0$021919ac@valued28addca9> Message-ID: Bob: Remember, it may be spelled c-h-e-a-p but it is pronounced "frugal". (The Other) Len Vacaville, California, USA 1967 3000 MKIII, HBJ8L39031 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Johnson" To: "Healeys" Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:52 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Castrol Classic Oil >I just can't see, as would be my case, dripping more expensive synthetic >oil > onto the gargage floor. Maybe I'm just cheap. From robert.w.johnson at charter.net Tue Jul 29 15:03:45 2008 From: robert.w.johnson at charter.net (Bob Johnson) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:03:45 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Still Missing under load 64 BJ8 References: <002d01c8f190$b064a670$1e00000a@DANSTROM> Message-ID: <00f401c8f1be$970b7590$021919ac@valued28addca9> I agree with the opinion that it could be the coil, but if the timing was not right, couldn't the same thing happen? With my first Healey, I would take it to the BMC shop for a tune-up. They would set the timing to what they felt was right. I would hobble back up the mountain to Blacksburg, reset the timing to actually make the car run well, and go on my way. Ticking, knock at startup... just getting the oil into circulation. Bob Johnson BJ8 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Stromquist" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 11:35 AM Subject: [Healeys] FW: Still Missing under load 64 BJ8 > Roland: > I went home and ran it last night so I could give you accurate answers: > 1. Seems to miss more after warmed up but does miss when it is cold. > Pulling choke out does not affect anything. > 2. It misses whether in overdrive or not but is much more noticeable > under > load especially while in OD and running at above RPM 2200. I don't dare > get > it to higher RPM than 3000 it starts to miss so bad. I tested it this > morning and it did miss without a load but does seem to as bad. > 3. The symptoms seem to subside when I let up on the load and cruise easy > at lower RPM( I baby it back home under 2000 RPM worried it will quit). > 4. I am now noticing a distinctive knock or loud ticking on start up that > goes away after 30 seconds or so. If I rev it up the knock gets louder > and > more distinctive. > Dan > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces+dan=warner-associates.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces+dan=warner-associates.com at autox.team.net] On > Behalf > Of Roland Wilhelmy > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 11:56 AM > To: 'Austin Healey list' > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Still Missing under load 64 BJ8 > > Dan- > > It certainly could be either faulty new parts or not quite rightly > installed good new parts. Barring that .... > > Maybe you could clarify your symptom description. > While cold, does the car start to miss as soon as you accelerate, or > does it only start to miss after it is warmed up? > If you pull the choke out do the symptoms go away? > If you leave it out of overdrive does it miss? > If you get the engine running above 3000 rpm, do the symptoms subside? > If you drive at, say 3500 rpm for a couple of miles do you get the > symptoms? > Are the symptoms dependent on the load on the engine, as in are they > dependent on how far down your foot is on the accelerator pedal? > Do the symptoms subside if you lift up a bit on the accelerator pedal, > or does it continue to run rough after that? > > > -Roland > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as robert.w.johnson at charter.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From al at bighealey.org Tue Jul 29 13:43:28 2008 From: al at bighealey.org (Al Fuller) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:43:28 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Tri-Carb choke cables - securing In-Reply-To: <488EF056.5040008@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <000e01c8f1b3$628989c0$c801a8c0@ARIZONA> Hi, Bob: Thanks for the suggestions - here is what I have found: The cable centers are solid - not stranded. There appear to be no strands sticking out to hold them up. The only thing is that the cable housings are not mechanically attached at either end. The cables are not all that long and may well have too much radius. The choke mechanism appears to work properly. When they are held up manually, the car starts right up! (Note: it is quite a feat to get them up and push the starter button, too!!) I am not surprised, since the carbs literally just came back from Jim Taylor for a rebuild. Thanks for the input. Right now I am thinking I might be in for new cables since it sounds like the stock cables should fit better in both the ferrules at the carbs as well as at the barrel on the lever. Al Fuller Fuller Compliance, LLC Quality Systems Consulting Software Quality, Validation + 21 CFR Part 11 714.335.0248 www.fullercompliance.com -----Original Message----- From: Bob Haskell [mailto:rchaskell at earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:27 AM To: Al Fuller Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Tri-Carb choke cables - securing Al, Sounds like the inner cable and outer housing are sticking together. Have you taken the cables apart and cleaned them? Is the inner cable intact - no broken strands or kinks that would bind in the housing? Make sure there aren't any burrs at the ends of the housings that will catch the inner cable. The outer sheath is to keep water (rust) out of the housing. I trimmed the sheath off each end so that the housing would fit in the ferrules. For lubrication, I used some Lubriplate grease that I've used for bicycle cables. Another thought - are the three cables going to the carbs nice and long with gentle, large radius curves? If the housings are too short, then the inner cables will bind. May-be the first thing to check, be sure the choke assembly on each carb is moving freely (without the choke cable attached). Bob '62 BT7 Al Fuller wrote: > The choke cables on my '62 Tri-carb have been messed-about by prior owners, > and will not stay seated in the brass mounting on the carburetors OR in the > lever barrel at the upper ends. The result is that once the engine is > warmed up and I want the choke back in, the cable sheaths jump out of the > mounts at the carburetors and push away from the barrels at the upper ends - > allowing the cable centers to bow instead of pushing the choke levers back > down, and as a result this holds the chokes open. From healey3000bn7 at yahoo.com Tue Jul 29 16:02:57 2008 From: healey3000bn7 at yahoo.com (Carlos Cruz) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:02:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Heat Insulation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <752278.99675.qm@web50010.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi Ken, I've only heard good things about KoolMat. Check out this website detailing the installation of the production in a '61 AH 3000. http://www.koolmat.com/british.shtml I don't have personal experience with it - like I said, I've only heard good things. This will probably be one of my winter projects this year. Best or luck, Carlos Cruz AHMG at aol.com wrote: I recall this being discuss in the past but can not find it in the archives. Any advice on the list for the best product to control heat into the the car? What is the best results and products for insulating the floor, tunnel etc to keep the heat out!!! I know the thickness of certain materials may cause some problems. Ken 66 BJ8 **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as healey3000bn7 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive From healey3000bn7 at yahoo.com Tue Jul 29 16:03:40 2008 From: healey3000bn7 at yahoo.com (Carlos Cruz) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:03:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Heat Insulation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <929410.28090.qm@web50006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi Ken, I've only heard good things about KoolMat. Check out this website detailing the installation of the production in a '61 AH 3000. http://www.koolmat.com/british.shtml I don't have personal experience with it - like I said, I've only heard good things. This will probably be one of my winter projects this year. Best or luck, Carlos Cruz AHMG at aol.com wrote: I recall this being discuss in the past but can not find it in the archives. Any advice on the list for the best product to control heat into the the car? What is the best results and products for insulating the floor, tunnel etc to keep the heat out!!! I know the thickness of certain materials may cause some problems. Ken 66 BJ8 **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as healey3000bn7 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive From f.ronald.rader at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 16:30:08 2008 From: f.ronald.rader at gmail.com (F. Ronald Rader) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:30:08 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Heat Insulation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5caeedb50807291530j9ab2cc2v184a67d0b2d979bd@mail.gmail.com> i used kool mat on my 65 BJ8 i installed it from all the way under the dash to the trunk. i also installed it inside the doors, inside the tranny tunnel and on top of the tranny tunnel. IIRC it is about 1/16 th of an inch. about .07 ron rader On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 8:24 AM, wrote: > > I recall this being discuss in the past but can not find it in the > archives. Any advice on the list for the best product to control heat into the the > car? What is the best results and products for insulating the floor, tunnel > etc to keep the heat out!!! I know the thickness of certain materials may cause > some problems. > > > Ken From price at advocateadvisors.com Tue Jul 29 16:35:05 2008 From: price at advocateadvisors.com (R. Price Lindsay) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:35:05 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Heat Insulation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8D4333A09700B046A4B0DCDF4A7DE55E0E3C6F@SERVER.acrea.local> Ken - I installed Dynamat Xtreme last year. It's terrific!! Price Lindsay '67 BJ8 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+price=advocateadvisors.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+price=advocateadvisors.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of AHMG at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 10:24 AM To: Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Heat Insulation I recall this being discuss in the past but can not find it in the archives. Any advice on the list for the best product to control heat into the the car? What is the best results and products for insulating the floor, tunnel etc to keep the heat out!!! I know the thickness of certain materials may cause some problems. Ken 66 BJ8 **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as price at advocateadvisors.com http://www.team.net/archive From rchaskell at earthlink.net Tue Jul 29 17:12:28 2008 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:12:28 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Tri-Carb choke cables - securing In-Reply-To: <000e01c8f1b3$628989c0$c801a8c0@ARIZONA> References: <000e01c8f1b3$628989c0$c801a8c0@ARIZONA> Message-ID: <488FA3DC.20900@earthlink.net> Al, My fault, the inner cables are solid. I was thinking of bicycle cables. The ends of the cable housing aren't suppose to be attached to anything. They just sit inside the ferrules. Bob Al Fuller wrote: > Hi, Bob: > > Thanks for the suggestions - here is what I have found: > > The cable centers are solid - not stranded. There appear to be no strands > sticking out to hold them up. The only thing is that the cable housings are > not mechanically attached at either end. > > The cables are not all that long and may well have too much radius. > > The choke mechanism appears to work properly. When they are held up > manually, the car starts right up! (Note: it is quite a feat to get them > up and push the starter button, too!!) I am not surprised, since the carbs > literally just came back from Jim Taylor for a rebuild. > > Thanks for the input. Right now I am thinking I might be in for new cables > since it sounds like the stock cables should fit better in both the ferrules > at the carbs as well as at the barrel on the lever. > > Al Fuller > Fuller Compliance, LLC > > Quality Systems Consulting > Software Quality, Validation + 21 CFR Part 11 > > 714.335.0248 > www.fullercompliance.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Haskell [mailto:rchaskell at earthlink.net] > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:27 AM > To: Al Fuller > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Tri-Carb choke cables - securing > > Al, > > Sounds like the inner cable and outer housing are sticking together. Have > you taken the cables apart and cleaned them? Is the inner cable intact - no > broken strands or kinks that would bind in the housing? Make sure there > aren't any burrs at the ends of the housings that will catch the inner > cable. The outer sheath is to keep water (rust) out of the housing. I > trimmed the sheath off each end so that the housing would fit in the > ferrules. For lubrication, I used some Lubriplate grease that I've used for > bicycle cables. > > Another thought - are the three cables going to the carbs nice and long > with gentle, large radius curves? If the housings are too short, then the > inner cables will bind. > > May-be the first thing to check, be sure the choke assembly on each carb is > moving freely (without the choke cable attached). > > Bob > '62 BT7 > > Al Fuller wrote: >> The choke cables on my '62 Tri-carb have been messed-about by prior > owners, >> and will not stay seated in the brass mounting on the carburetors OR in > the >> lever barrel at the upper ends. The result is that once the engine is >> warmed up and I want the choke back in, the cable sheaths jump out of the >> mounts at the carburetors and push away from the barrels at the upper ends > - >> allowing the cable centers to bow instead of pushing the choke levers back >> down, and as a result this holds the chokes open. From sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au Tue Jul 29 17:19:00 2008 From: sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au (sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:19:00 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Missing Under Load Message-ID: <1217373540.488fa564c4807@webmail.hotkey.net.au> FWIW If all else fails look for an air leak. I have in the past purchased two brand new SU's to eliminate the 'worn spindle carb. syndrome' and only when I removed the old SU's there was a greasy old piece of manifold gasket that had been hanging out in down under the manifold. Joe From rnbmail at yahoo.com Tue Jul 29 18:12:29 2008 From: rnbmail at yahoo.com (Robert Blair) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:12:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Castrol Classic Oil In-Reply-To: <20080729160957.GCUM29060.ispmxmta06-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> Message-ID: <994358.59098.qm@web37903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Agree with Tom. Non synthetic, and, has old fashioned levels of ZDDP. Robert N. Blair 65 Yellow BJ8 rnbmail at yahoo.com --- On Tue, 7/29/08, tomfelts at windstream.net wrote: > From: tomfelts at windstream.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Castrol Classic Oil > To: "Richard Hosmer" , "Steve B. Gerow" , "Healeys Newsgroup" > Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 9:09 AM > Valvoline VR1 20/50 racing oil. ZDDP and conventional. > > tom > > > > From: Richard Hosmer > > Date: 2008/07/29 Tue AM 09:46:00 EDT > > To: "Steve B. Gerow" > , Healeys Newsgroup > > > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Castrol Classic Oil > > > > Steve, > > > > Thanks for the link, but, I see that it is a > synthetic. Anyone still make an > > "old -fashioned real oil" oil, with enough > zinc? My engine has never been > > apart, and I'm just about down to my last can of > 1970s-era Castrol. > > > > Dick Hosmer > > BT7 tricarb > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as rnbmail at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From Editorgary at aol.com Tue Jul 29 18:23:00 2008 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:23:00 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Koolmat Message-ID: In a message dated 7/29/08 4:18:38 PM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > I've only heard good things about KoolMat. Check out this website > detailing the installation of the production in a '61 AH 3000. > http://www.koolmat.com/british.shtml > > I don't have personal experience with it - like I said, I've only heard > good things. This will probably be one of my winter projects this year. > But in the winter, you'll want the cockpit to be warm, so why bother? (In the same vein of why fix the roof when it's not raining?) Cheers Gary ************** Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) From philritten at aol.com Tue Jul 29 18:41:04 2008 From: philritten at aol.com (philritten at aol.com) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:41:04 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Castrol Classic Oil In-Reply-To: <008f01c8f183$32a827f0$021919ac@valued28addca9> References: <008f01c8f183$32a827f0$021919ac@valued28addca9> Message-ID: <8CABFF4150EB40E-56C-4A0C@webmail-nf06.sim.aol.com> I was told to get Castrol GTX SAE 20W-50 for my Healey which says "API Service SM,SL,SJ,SH" on that back (not sure what that means).?I?believe I was told it?is a special oil for older engines.?I got it at Pep Boys. Thanks, Phil -----Original Message----- From: Bob Johnson To: Healeys Sent: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 6:58 am Subject: Re: [Healeys] Castrol Classic Oil Yes. As I said, but perhaps not to clearly, a couple of days ago, Tractor Supply Co. has API-SL oil availble. It is conventional (has to be to have the API spec) motor oil. Available in single and multi grade formulations. Additionally, they have non-detergent oil available for the tranny, Bob Johnson BJ8 > > Thanks for the link, but, I see that it is a synthetic. Anyone still make > an > "old -fashioned real oil" oil, with enough zinc? My engine has never been > apart, and I'm just about down to my last can of 1970s-era Castrol. Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as philritten at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive From csooch1 at aol.com Tue Jul 29 19:58:22 2008 From: csooch1 at aol.com (Chris Masucci) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:58:22 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Castrol Classic Oil In-Reply-To: <20080729132214.17078.qmail@hoster902.com> Message-ID: Maybe if I take the politicians route and say it over and over again. Mobil Delvac 1 Synthetic, A.K.A Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck 5W40, or Rotella T Synthetic in 5W40 or dino in 15W40 are the best oils out there for flat tappet cams. Doesn't matter what fuel the engine is burning. Syntec is crap, IMHO. Cheers, Chris BJ8 > Subject: [Healeys] Castrol Classic Oil > > Here is a link to Castrol's full-zinc oil: > > http://tiny.cc/aGuOA > -- From schauss at worldnet.att.net Tue Jul 29 20:14:13 2008 From: schauss at worldnet.att.net (Peter Schauss) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 22:14:13 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Heat Insulation In-Reply-To: <929410.28090.qm@web50006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20080730021351.DBC7A18765A@autox.team.net> While we are on the subject of insulation, what suggestions do all of you have for the blast of hot air which comes from around the handbrake, and the shift lever boot and the fact that you could fry an egg on my ash tray? The guy I bought my car did a sufficiently good job of insulating the fire wall, cockpit floor, and the gearbox tunnel that my feet do not get unbearably hot. There is, however, a serious blast of hot air coming from around the base of the hand brake. Although there are no cracks in the shift lever boot, and it seems to seal well around the shift lever and the opening in the tunnel I do feel a good bit of heat coming from that spot. Then there is the ash tray.... Thanks in advance for any suggestions. Peter Schauss 1963 BJ7 1980 MGB > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces+schauss=worldnet.att.net at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces+schauss=worldnet.att.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf > Of Carlos Cruz > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:04 PM > To: Healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Heat Insulation > > Hi Ken, > > I've only heard good things about KoolMat. Check out this website > detailing the installation of the production in a '61 AH 3000. > http://www.koolmat.com/british.shtml > > I don't have personal experience with it - like I said, I've only heard > good things. This will probably be one of my winter projects this year. > > Best or luck, > Carlos Cruz > > > > AHMG at aol.com wrote: > I recall this being discuss in the past but can not find it in the > archives. Any advice on the list for the best product to control heat into > the the > car? What is the best results and products for insulating the floor, > tunnel > etc to keep the heat out!!! I know the thickness of certain materials may > cause > some problems. > > > Ken > 66 BJ8 > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey3000bn7 at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as schauss at worldnet.att.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From steveg at abrazosdata.com Tue Jul 29 21:54:56 2008 From: steveg at abrazosdata.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Steve=20B.=20Gerow?=) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:54:56 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] =?iso-8859-1?q?Story=3A_Healey_Comes_Home_to_Warwick?= Message-ID: <20080730035456.31098.qmail@hoster902.com> Story about Healey resto firm moving into Cape: Hat Tip: Sarah Frost: http://tiny.cc/5OVb1 -- Steve Gerow Pasadena CA BN6 From flyhihealey at hotmail.com Wed Jul 30 04:54:30 2008 From: flyhihealey at hotmail.com (Warren Dietz) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 06:54:30 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Door panels Message-ID: Can anyone comment on experience with what vendors to purchase new door panels from? I know and trust Healey Surgeons for a lot of parts but there's a difference in price with VB? Thanks, WD 67 BJ8 _________________________________________________________________ Time for vacation? WIN what you need- enter now! http://www.gowindowslive.com/summergiveaway/?ocid=tag_jlyhm From tomfelts at windstream.net Wed Jul 30 06:12:36 2008 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (tomfelts at windstream.net) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 8:12:36 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Door panels Message-ID: <20080730121236.YERE13398.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> There is an old saying--"You pay for what you get". Go with HS. > > From: Warren Dietz > Date: 2008/07/30 Wed AM 06:54:30 EDT > To: Healey List > Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Door panels > > Can anyone comment on experience with what vendors to purchase new door panels > from? I know and trust Healey Surgeons for a lot of parts but there's a > difference in price with VB? > > Thanks, WD 67 BJ8 > _________________________________________________________________ > Time for vacation? WIN what you need- enter now! > http://www.gowindowslive.com/summergiveaway/?ocid=tag_jlyhm > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From ronald-ray at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 30 06:22:24 2008 From: ronald-ray at sbcglobal.net (Ronald J. Ray) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:22:24 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Door panels In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Why don't you just order the door panels direct from Kilmartin? They may be the supplier for both retailers you mentioned. Ron -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+ronald-ray=sbcglobal.net at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+ronald-ray=sbcglobal.net at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Warren Dietz Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 5:55 AM To: Healey List Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Door panels Can anyone comment on experience with what vendors to purchase new door panels from? I know and trust Healey Surgeons for a lot of parts but there's a difference in price with VB? Thanks, WD 67 BJ8 From richchrysler at quickclic.net Wed Jul 30 06:28:44 2008 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 08:28:44 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Door panels References: Message-ID: <02e701c8f23f$cf0ee360$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> I assumed we were talking about interior trim panels??? Or are you asking about steel parts? Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronald J. Ray" To: "Warren Dietz" ; "Healey List" Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 Door panels > Why don't you just order the door panels direct from Kilmartin? > They may be the supplier for both retailers you mentioned. > > Ron > > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces+ronald-ray=sbcglobal.net at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces+ronald-ray=sbcglobal.net at autox.team.net]On > Behalf Of Warren Dietz > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 5:55 AM > To: Healey List > Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Door panels > > > Can anyone comment on experience with what vendors to purchase new door > panels > from? I know and trust Healey Surgeons for a lot of parts but there's a > difference in price with VB? > > Thanks, WD 67 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richchrysler at quickclic.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From bspidell at comcast.net Wed Jul 30 07:00:31 2008 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 06:00:31 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] synthetic oils In-Reply-To: References: <004601c8ef8f$bdd23190$5201a8c0@Jim> <488C0405.6070300@pacbell.net> <005401c8f0cd$c777fab0$021919ac@valued28addca9> <28f529ba0807281822k2e33e57fva412fa27b40b0513@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <489065EF.6060502@comcast.net> In aviation circles, mineral oil is known to do a better job of scavenging combustion byproducts. It also degrades more gracefully than synthetic (though synthetic holds its characteristics longer). There are no full-synthetic oils made today for piston-engined aircraft, but there are several semi-synthetics. Something (else) to consider if your Healey doesn't have a particularly "tight" engine. bs Alan Seigrist wrote: > I have MT90 in my BJ8 gearbox and I can tell you it leaks alot less than > when I had 30wt in it. Putting it in six years ago I only had to top it up > with less than half a quart just yesterday. > > Alan > > '52 A90 > '53 BN1 > '64 BJ8 > > ******************************************************************* Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net ******************************************************************* From Warthodson at aol.com Wed Jul 30 07:29:46 2008 From: Warthodson at aol.com (Warthodson at aol.com) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:29:46 EDT Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Door panels Message-ID: Since most suppliers (like Healey Surgeons, Victoria British, etc.) don't produce (or contract to have produced) their own parts, it would really be helpful to know where they get their parts from. In other words, what we need to know is the original source of the part & whether or not it is well made. For what it is worth, I can tell you that VB gets most (but not all) of their sheet metal parts like doors from AH Spares. Gary Hodson In a message dated 7/30/2008 5:56:28 A.M. Central Daylight Time, flyhihealey at hotmail.com writes: Can anyone comment on experience with what vendors to purchase new door panels from? I know and trust Healey Surgeons for a lot of parts but there's a difference in price with VB? Thanks, WD 67 BJ8 _________________________________________________________________ Time for vacation? WIN what you need- enter now! http://www.gowindowslive.com/summergiveaway/?ocid=tag_jlyhm Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as warthodson at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) From bighealey at charter.net Wed Jul 30 08:29:39 2008 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:29:39 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Any listers in Oxford MI ? Message-ID: <000501c8f250$b35b26e0$1002a8c0@TRACY> If you are in Oxford MI near Detroit and would be willing to pick up and ship some parts for me please contact me off list. Thanks in Advance, Tracy Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! President AHCUSA www.healey.org From flyhihealey at hotmail.com Wed Jul 30 08:42:14 2008 From: flyhihealey at hotmail.com (Warren Dietz) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:42:14 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Door panels In-Reply-To: <02e701c8f23f$cf0ee360$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> References: <02e701c8f23f$cf0ee360$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> Message-ID: Yes, I was referring to interior trim panels. Thanks for the respones. I prefer quality and am willing to pay a little extra. WD 67 BJ8 > > I assumed we were talking about interior trim panels??? Or are you asking > about steel parts?> > Rich Chrysler> >> >> >> > Can anyone comment on experience with what vendors to purchase new door> > panels> > from? I know and trust Healey Surgeons for a lot of parts but there's a> > difference in price with VB?> >> > Thanks, WD 67 BJ8> > _______________________________________________> > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> >> > Healeys at autox.team.net> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys> >> > You are subscribed as richchrysler at quickclic.net> >> > http://www.team.net/archive> > > _________________________________________________________________ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_ Refresh_messenger_video_072008 From jhomonek at mindspring.com Wed Jul 30 09:12:33 2008 From: jhomonek at mindspring.com (John H) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:12:33 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Door panels Message-ID: <25729144.1217430753614.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Warren, if you want quality, then go with Heritage. None is better. NFI, just a satisfied customer. John Homonek Atlanta AHCA 1959 BN7 - 1960 AN5 - 1974 Jensen Healey -----Original Message----- >From: Warren Dietz >Sent: Jul 30, 2008 10:42 AM >To: Healey List >Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 Door panels > > Yes, I was referring to interior trim panels. Thanks for the respones. I >prefer quality and am willing to pay a little extra. > >WD 67 BJ8 > > I assumed we were talking about interior trim panels??? Or are >you asking > about steel parts?> > Rich Chrysler> >> >> >> > Can anyone >comment on experience with what vendors to purchase new door> > panels> > >from? I know and trust Healey Surgeons for a lot of parts but there's a> > >difference in price with VB?> >> > Thanks, WD 67 BJ8> > >_______________________________________________> > Support Team.Net >http://www.team.net/donate.html> >> > Healeys at autox.team.net> > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys> >> > You are subscribed as >richchrysler at quickclic.net> >> > http://www.team.net/archive> > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. >http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_ >Refresh_messenger_video_072008 >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >Healeys at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > >You are subscribed as jhomonek at mindspring.com > >http://www.team.net/archive From Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com Wed Jul 30 09:25:52 2008 From: Kendall.Freese at Aerojet.com (Freese, Ken) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 08:25:52 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Door panels In-Reply-To: References: <02e701c8f23f$cf0ee360$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> Message-ID: <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D904EAA@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> I got the SC door panels through Victoria British on sale. They are ok, but didn't knock my socks off. For the black door tops, though, I got Moss and am not really satisfied. So little foam padding that they look shrunken after being on the car for a couple of years. Ken Freese 65 BJ8 From alexmm at roadrunner.com Wed Jul 30 10:03:28 2008 From: alexmm at roadrunner.com (Alex) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:03:28 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Spare parts References: <02e701c8f23f$cf0ee360$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> <0B88281C9591904D9B35C6EB66E8A80D904EAA@SACMX1.aerojet.gencorp.local> Message-ID: Speaking of door panels, and spares, I just picked up a new fuel hose for my BT7 dual-carb. I bought it from Moss, through my local dealer. The steel-jacketed hose I'm referring to goes from the fuel pipe up to the union at the front carb. In any case, it doesn't fit. For starters, it's way too long. Then, the threads are incorrect. It's going back to Moss. The repair was done safely instead, by cutting off the brass crimp metal on the back of each nut on the original hose. I used a Dremel cutoff wheel, although a hacksaw would work as well. Peeling off the old hose reveals barbs that accept 1/4-in. fuel hose and clamps. == Alex in Maine "The Blue Mainie," 1960 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 "Conkling," 1946 MG TC #1321 Former owner 1957 A-H 100-6, 1967 A-H BJ8, 1965 MG Midget http://users.adelphia.net/~alexmm/ai2q.htm From al at bighealey.org Wed Jul 30 09:18:48 2008 From: al at bighealey.org (Al Fuller) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:18:48 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Tri-Carb choke cables - securing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000901c8f257$96eb03c0$c801a8c0@ARIZONA> Hi, Ed (and all): I took a picture where you can see the radii of the cables. Likely the cables are too short. I will be investigating new cables later, so any input is appreciated. The picture is posted here: http://www.bighealey.org/carb/ Thanks, Al Fuller Fuller Compliance, LLC Quality Systems Consulting Software Quality, Validation + 21 CFR Part 11 714.335.0248 www.fullercompliance.com -----Original Message----- From: Ed's Shop [mailto:shop at justbrits.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:25 PM To: Al Fuller Subject: RE: [Healeys] Tri-Carb choke cables - securing <> Al, could you take a pic (from in front of radiator & standing on something) and send to me??? I pretty much should be able to tell 'good or bad' set-up. Ed Please visit my site at: www.justbrits.com From tomfelts at windstream.net Wed Jul 30 11:42:31 2008 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (tomfelts at windstream.net) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:42:31 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Door panels Message-ID: <20080730174231.IBQP29060.ispmxmta06-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> I know they are quality, but they just don't suit the Healey IMO anyway. The interior was never that nice from the factory and it gives it a non-original look to me. Just my 2c's > > From: John H > Date: 2008/07/30 Wed AM 11:12:33 EDT > To: Warren Dietz , Healey List > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 Door panels > > Warren, > > if you want quality, then go with Heritage. None is better. > NFI, just a satisfied customer. > > John Homonek > Atlanta AHCA > 1959 BN7 - 1960 AN5 - 1974 Jensen Healey > > -----Original Message----- > >From: Warren Dietz > >Sent: Jul 30, 2008 10:42 AM > >To: Healey List > >Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 Door panels > > > > Yes, I was referring to interior trim panels. Thanks for the respones. I > >prefer quality and am willing to pay a little extra. > > > >WD 67 BJ8 > > I assumed we were talking about interior trim panels??? Or are > >you asking > about steel parts?> > Rich Chrysler> >> >> >> > Can anyone > >comment on experience with what vendors to purchase new door> > panels> > > >from? I know and trust Healey Surgeons for a lot of parts but there's a> > > >difference in price with VB?> >> > Thanks, WD 67 BJ8> > > >_______________________________________________> > Support Team.Net > >http://www.team.net/donate.html> >> > Healeys at autox.team.net> > > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys> >> > You are subscribed as > >richchrysler at quickclic.net> >> > http://www.team.net/archive> > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. > >http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_ > >Refresh_messenger_video_072008 > >_______________________________________________ > >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > >Healeys at autox.team.net > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > >You are subscribed as jhomonek at mindspring.com > > > >http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From ruvino at ripnet.com Wed Jul 30 12:12:11 2008 From: ruvino at ripnet.com (Dr. C. Rubino) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:12:11 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] gear ratio Message-ID: How do you determine the differential gear ratio from the crown wheel? Carl BN-4(L) From j.aeckerlin at gmail.com Wed Jul 30 13:05:06 2008 From: j.aeckerlin at gmail.com (Jaap Aeckerlin) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:05:06 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Missing Under Load In-Reply-To: <1217373540.488fa564c4807@webmail.hotkey.net.au> References: <1217373540.488fa564c4807@webmail.hotkey.net.au> Message-ID: <4e23c7250807301205y3e023462r67f8955281f44947@mail.gmail.com> Friends, maybe the attitude towards motoring is different in Europe, but as soon as I read the numerous threads about Lucas rotors and distributors I decided to install a 123 Electronic ignition. Fully electronic, no extra parts under the bonnet/hood, and both cap and rotor are of Bosch manufacture - in fact they are standard Bosch items with their part numbers shown in the 123 instruction manual. (And the same goes for the fuel pump - I use a Pierburg rotating vane type pump and neither ignition nor fuel supply have ever let me down). I go for reliable motoring and have given up the idea that everything on the car has to be original. Diagonal tires, anyone? Jack Aeckerlin, The Netherlands 1964 BJ8 29432 (which just failed it' s Government test because I have original wheel nuts with two projecting arms - and that's considered to be unsafe to bicyclists and pedestrians. Have to borrow octagonal nuts for the retest. What a country!) 2008/7/30 > FWIW > If all else fails look for an air leak. I have in the past purchased two > brand > new SU's to eliminate the 'worn spindle carb. syndrome' and only when I > removed > the old SU's there was a greasy old piece of manifold gasket that had been > hanging out in down under the manifold. > Joe > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as j.aeckerlin at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From kit at henrymotorsports.com Wed Jul 30 13:53:12 2008 From: kit at henrymotorsports.com (Kit Henry) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:53:12 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Sold Message-ID: <000a01c8f27d$e659ae90$030ba8c0@henryfce283bea> Sorry to say though I sold my beloved Austin Healey so my son can continue racing I hope I have brough some new people into the Helay fold as it has gone to a soon to be married couple in Chicagio, Illinois mof approximately lat e 20's early 30's I will be signing off soon until I get another Healey The list has been great 1965 Austin Healey HBJ8L28585 Sold to Dana Westfall Kit Henry Prevoius owner of 65 Healey Ivory Red 54 TF 70 Mini 67 Cortina 23 T-Bucket 79 Dodage Warlock 85 Jaguar XJS From shop at justbrits.com Wed Jul 30 15:21:04 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:21:04 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] FW: [Spridgets] WSJ article on collecter car insurance Message-ID: Even tho we have had conversations on this topic before, below IS 'new' fodder for the pile!! ------------------------------------------------------ Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 1:48 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] WSJ article on collecter car insurance >From the Personal Journal section of the July 30 Wall Street Journal http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121737402789495041.html?mod=todays_us_nonsub _ pj [or http://tinyurl.com/6nsmvc ] San Jose CA '60 MK 1 From gvernau at containerhouse.com Wed Jul 30 14:27:47 2008 From: gvernau at containerhouse.com (G Vernau Sr) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:27:47 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Door panels Message-ID: <20080730203238.1D196187655@autox.team.net> For what it's worth, I recently got black interior door panels and arm rests from Healey Surgeons to replace the originals on my BJ8 and they are indistinguishable (to me) from the originals, maybe even better quality. George Vernau Sr 67 BJ8 From sjnnock at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 30 14:50:37 2008 From: sjnnock at sbcglobal.net (Norman Nock) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:50:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] hot feet in a Healey Message-ID: <78252.64536.qm@web83305.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> There is a foam ring behind the hand brake ratchet , see factory parts book or page 4 in our RARE PARTS catalog , you can down load it off our web "Hot feet in a Healey" is my tech article in Healey Highlights April 1986 or page 105 in my Tech Talk book.. How to stop hot air into your Healey Norman Nock --- On Tue, 7/29/08, Peter Schauss wrote: > From: Peter Schauss > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Heat Insulation > To: Healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 7:14 PM > While we are on the subject of insulation, what suggestions > do all of you > have for the blast of hot air which comes from around the > handbrake, and the > shift lever boot and the fact that you could fry an egg on > my ash tray? > > The guy I bought my car did a sufficiently good job of > insulating the fire > wall, cockpit floor, and the gearbox tunnel that my feet do > not get > unbearably hot. There is, however, a serious blast of hot > air coming from > around the base of the hand brake. Although there are no > cracks in the > shift lever boot, and it seems to seal well around the > shift lever and the > opening in the tunnel I do feel a good bit of heat coming > from that spot. > Then there is the ash tray.... > > Thanks in advance for any suggestions. > > Peter Schauss > 1963 BJ7 > 1980 MGB From msalter at precisionsportscar.com Wed Jul 30 14:54:31 2008 From: msalter at precisionsportscar.com (Michael Salter) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:54:31 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] gear ratio In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <012d01c8f286$77f8e980$6f00a8c0@michael> Hi Carl, Sometimes the crownwheel will have the ratio stamped on it somewhere ...something like 41/10 but if it does not you have to count the teeth on the crownwheel and then the pinion then divide the crownwheel number by the pinion number.. Easy as cake...piece of pie... Michael Salter 100 (1953) #174 AHX12 (1953) Bugeye (1961) http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/ -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dr. C. Rubino Sent: July 30, 2008 2:12 PM To: healeylist Subject: [Healeys] gear ratio How do you determine the differential gear ratio from the crown wheel? Carl BN-4(L) Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as msalter at precisionsportscar.com http://www.team.net/archive From tomfelts at windstream.net Wed Jul 30 15:04:59 2008 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (tomfelts at windstream.net) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:04:59 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Hemphill's Message-ID: <20080730210459.QBZV13398.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> Anyone know if Hemphill's Healey Haven is still in business? When I dial his 800# I get a voice telling me to call a 900 #----which, as we know is a high rate number. Cheers tom From quenty at ntelos.net Wed Jul 30 15:21:16 2008 From: quenty at ntelos.net (David Schweninger) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:21:16 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Tricarb Choke Cables Message-ID: <31F5A595-3FF6-4AF3-B6C5-C892946407CB@ntelos.net> Al, These pictures show the choke cable setup on my BN7. The main cable from the dash is a standard repro. I made the cables to the carbs. They are all standard motorcycle throttle parts. This consists of the Black Sleeving, the End Caps for the sleeving, the 1/16" stranded (7X19) Cable, and the Ferrel which is soldered on to the upper end of the cable. An older motorcycle shop will have all the parts. The newer shops tend to be like Kmart ,with complete assemblies in little plastic bags. Good luck Dave and Daisy This shows the sleeving pulled back. Note the end cap. Also the ferrel is just visible on the brass barrel. This shows the Ferrel which has a small cup on the large end. the cable is pushed through and the cable is splayed open a bit, then pulled back in to the cup and soldered. From jkrowe46 at bigpond.net.au Wed Jul 30 16:16:08 2008 From: jkrowe46 at bigpond.net.au (John & Kerry Rowe) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 08:16:08 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Missing Under Load References: <1217373540.488fa564c4807@webmail.hotkey.net.au> <4e23c7250807301205y3e023462r67f8955281f44947@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7236835E9B704BD3AFAF7EB64ED5DF5F@rowe4323ef3cc5> : Re: [Healeys] Missing Under Load FWIW, we dont have the 'knock off' problem here in Australia- seems the bicyclists and pedestrians like the challenge of evading these diabolical things! Is this more of the "Nanny Society" looking after our wellbeing? John Rowe Qld Australia BN1 BT7 > Friends, > maybe the attitude towards motoring is different in Europe, but as soon as > I > read the numerous threads about Lucas rotors and distributors I decided to > install a 123 Electronic ignition. Fully electronic, no extra parts under > the bonnet/hood, and both cap and rotor are of Bosch manufacture - in fact > they are standard Bosch items with their part numbers shown in the 123 > instruction manual. > (And the same goes for the fuel pump - I use a Pierburg rotating vane type > pump and neither ignition nor fuel supply have ever let me down). > I go for reliable motoring and have given up the idea that everything on > the car has to be original. > Diagonal tires, anyone? > Jack Aeckerlin, The Netherlands > 1964 BJ8 29432 (which just failed it' s Government test because I have > original wheel nuts with two projecting arms - and that's considered to be > unsafe to bicyclists and pedestrians. Have to borrow octagonal nuts for > the > retest. What a country!) From cfrazer at jcomm.uoregon.edu Wed Jul 30 20:53:54 2008 From: cfrazer at jcomm.uoregon.edu (Charlie Frazer) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:53:54 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Door panels In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9fb0dcf261bd07e8281351206c25ba9b@jcomm.uoregon.edu> From my experience, do not, under any circumstances buy BJ8 door panels from Moss. When I fit mine on the front channel, the rear panel clips were out of alignment with the door holes by 3/8". I returned them and was told they'd never had a complaint before so they must be all right. When my dealer went to bat for me they eventually paid a local upholstery shop to make them fit. They are still not right. Charlie Frazer On Jul 30, 2008, at 3:54 AM, Warren Dietz wrote: Can anyone comment on experience with what vendors to purchase new door panels from? I know and trust Healey Surgeons for a lot of parts but there's a difference in price with VB? Thanks, WD 67 BJ8 _________________________________________________________________ Time for vacation? WIN what you need- enter now! http://www.gowindowslive.com/summergiveaway/?ocid=tag_jlyhm Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as cfrazer at jcomm.uoregon.edu http://www.team.net/archive From 62bt7 at prodigy.net Wed Jul 30 22:57:21 2008 From: 62bt7 at prodigy.net (62bt7) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:57:21 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: RON PHILLIPS Passing (A-H Assoc of So. Calif & A-H Club of San Diego) Message-ID: <02cb01c8f2c9$ec73a7d0$a535480c@kirkgrbymz8g9u> Subject: RON PHILLIPS Passing (A-H Assoc of So. Calif & A-H Club of San Diego) Ron Phillips Passing. (Ron's by line: "The Nut Behind the Wheel") I am sorry to have to pass this information on to all of you but Ron Phillips climbed into his 100 and drove off to Heaven today. I believe that it happened at home as La Rea was quit upset when I so spoke with her on the phone. Her comment was, "That he just passed away. "I am not really good at this type of thing so I will just say that at the present time she is talking about having the funeral on Monday 4Aug08 but that is not set in concrete. Will give more info as I get it. Bow your heads and say a prayer, Chic P.S. I do not have all of the addresses so if you know of someone not on the list please forward. From f.ronald.rader at gmail.com Wed Jul 30 23:48:29 2008 From: f.ronald.rader at gmail.com (F. Ronald Rader) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:48:29 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: RON PHILLIPS Passing (A-H Assoc of So. Calif & A-H Club of San Diego) In-Reply-To: <02cb01c8f2c9$ec73a7d0$a535480c@kirkgrbymz8g9u> References: <02cb01c8f2c9$ec73a7d0$a535480c@kirkgrbymz8g9u> Message-ID: <5caeedb50807302248k7edb1891x2a6be134d4863188@mail.gmail.com> Sorry to hear that about ron phillips. he was a nice guy. ron rader > > Ron Phillips Passing. > I am sorry to have to pass this information on to all of you but Ron Phillips > climbed into his 100 and drove off to Heaven today. I believe that it > happened at home as La Rea was quit upset when I so spoke with her on the > phone. Her comment was, "That he just passed away. "I am not really good at > this type of thing so I will just say that at the present time she is talking > about having the funeral on Monday 4Aug08 but that is not set in concrete. > Will give more info as I get it. > > Bow your heads and say a prayer, From rwil at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 31 00:25:49 2008 From: rwil at sbcglobal.net (Roland Wilhelmy) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:25:49 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: RON PHILLIPS Passing (A-H Assoc of So. Calif & A-H Club of San Diego) In-Reply-To: <5caeedb50807302248k7edb1891x2a6be134d4863188@mail.gmail.com> References: <02cb01c8f2c9$ec73a7d0$a535480c@kirkgrbymz8g9u> <5caeedb50807302248k7edb1891x2a6be134d4863188@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Ron Phillips was not only a fine human being, he was a treasure house of knowledge about Healeys and about Hundreds in particular. Fortunately we have his 'Nut Behind the Wheel' articles to remember him by and thank him for. -Roland Wilhelmy On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:48:29 -0700, Ron Rader wrote: ::Sorry to hear that about ron phillips. he was a nice guy. ::ron rader ::> ::> Ron Phillips Passing. :: ::> I am sorry to have to pass this information on to all of you but Ron Phillips ::> climbed into his 100 and drove off to Heaven today. From tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl Thu Jul 31 03:51:21 2008 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:51:21 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Austin Healey or Austin? Message-ID: <000001c8f2f2$fdeacc90$1c05447e@tm4> I have a small question - what/who is officially the "make" of the car: Austin Healey or Austin? Was there a company called Austin-Healey?.. The reason I am asking is I am trying to register the car at DMV in Poland - they are reluctant to accept the make of the car as "Austin-Healey". Rather, they say it's an Austin, but the type is Healey.. I thought at first they must be wrong, but then I looked at the VIN plate, and it says Austin.. Any thoughts? How are your cars registered? The Florida Title I have has: Make: AUHE Model: /empty/ Thanks for all help, Tadek From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Jul 31 05:42:00 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:42:00 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Austin Healey or Austin? In-Reply-To: <000001c8f2f2$fdeacc90$1c05447e@tm4> References: <000001c8f2f2$fdeacc90$1c05447e@tm4> Message-ID: Tadek - Austin was the company which supplied the drivetrain and took care of all the factory records and sold the cars through their dealerships, so it is essentially an Austin. Just register it as an Austin. Healey was Donald Healey who was responsible for the design and the chassis. Think of it as an Alfa Zagato or a Shelby Mustang. It is an Austin from a factory and sales perspective. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Tadeusz Malkiewicz wrote: > I have a small question - what/who is officially the "make" of the car: > Austin Healey or Austin? > > Was there a company called Austin-Healey?.. > > The reason I am asking is I am trying to register the car at DMV in Poland > - > they are reluctant to accept the make of the car as "Austin-Healey". > Rather, > they say it's an Austin, but the type is Healey.. > I thought at first they must be wrong, but then I looked at the VIN plate, > and it says Austin.. > > > Any thoughts? > > How are your cars registered? > > The Florida Title I have has: > Make: AUHE > Model: /empty/ > > Thanks for all help, > > Tadek > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From richchrysler at quickclic.net Thu Jul 31 06:57:57 2008 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 08:57:57 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: RON PHILLIPS Passing (A-H Assoc of So. Calif & A-H Club of San Diego) References: <02cb01c8f2c9$ec73a7d0$a535480c@kirkgrbymz8g9u> Message-ID: <005b01c8f30d$0e6f03a0$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> I only met Ron once, and that was at the AHCA Conclave in Rockford, Ill. in 1990. We had just begun the National Concours Registry and I believe his beautiful Hundred was the first to achieve Gold. He was a great fellow, and very knowledgeable. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "62bt7" <62bt7 at prodigy.net> To: Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 12:57 AM Subject: [Healeys] Fw: RON PHILLIPS Passing (A-H Assoc of So. Calif & A-H Club of San Diego) > Subject: RON PHILLIPS Passing (A-H Assoc of So. Calif & A-H Club of San > Diego) > > > Ron Phillips Passing. > > (Ron's by line: "The Nut Behind the Wheel") > > > I am sorry to have to pass this information on to all of you but Ron > Phillips > climbed into his 100 and drove off to Heaven today. I believe that it > happened at home as La Rea was quit upset when I so spoke with her on the > phone. Her comment was, "That he just passed away. "I am not really good > at > this type of thing so I will just say that at the present time she is > talking > about having the funeral on Monday 4Aug08 but that is not set in concrete. > Will give more info as I get it. > > Bow your heads and say a prayer, > > Chic > > P.S. I do not have all of the addresses so if you know of someone not on > the > list please forward. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richchrysler at quickclic.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From richchrysler at quickclic.net Thu Jul 31 07:01:18 2008 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 09:01:18 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Austin Healey or Austin? References: <000001c8f2f2$fdeacc90$1c05447e@tm4> Message-ID: <006801c8f30d$86124d90$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> Tadek, Your DMV in Poland is right on. The "make" of car is an Austin, the "model" is Healey or Healey 100. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tadeusz Malkiewicz" To: Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 5:51 AM Subject: [Healeys] Austin Healey or Austin? >I have a small question - what/who is officially the "make" of the car: > Austin Healey or Austin? > > Was there a company called Austin-Healey?.. > > The reason I am asking is I am trying to register the car at DMV in > Poland - > they are reluctant to accept the make of the car as "Austin-Healey". > Rather, > they say it's an Austin, but the type is Healey.. > I thought at first they must be wrong, but then I looked at the VIN plate, > and it says Austin.. > > > Any thoughts? > > How are your cars registered? > > The Florida Title I have has: > Make: AUHE > Model: /empty/ > > Thanks for all help, > > Tadek > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richchrysler at quickclic.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Thu Jul 31 07:15:44 2008 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:15:44 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Austin Healey or Austin? In-Reply-To: <006801c8f30d$86124d90$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> References: <000001c8f2f2$fdeacc90$1c05447e@tm4> <006801c8f30d$86124d90$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> Message-ID: G'day Well!!!!! Not quite a 100% correct. The name of the actual marque and make of car shown in the timeline of British cars is Austin-Healey. 100, 100/6 and 3000 are models. It was a registered name. Austin was a separate name and manufacturer as was Healey. There was only one ever Healey 100 that was changed over night to an Austin-Healey 100. Plus Healey cars are very different again. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia 1947 Healey Duncan (It's a Healey car and Duncan is the model) 1954 Austin-Healey 100 BN3/1 (It's an Austin-Healey and 100 BN3/1 model) -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+p_cquinn=tpg.com.au at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+p_cquinn=tpg.com.au at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rich C Sent: Thursday, 31 July 2008 11:01 PM To: Tadeusz Malkiewicz; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Austin Healey or Austin? Tadek, Your DMV in Poland is right on. The "make" of car is an Austin, the "model" is Healey or Healey 100. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tadeusz Malkiewicz" To: Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 5:51 AM Subject: [Healeys] Austin Healey or Austin? >I have a small question - what/who is officially the "make" of the car: > Austin Healey or Austin? > > Was there a company called Austin-Healey?.. > > The reason I am asking is I am trying to register the car at DMV in > Poland - > they are reluctant to accept the make of the car as "Austin-Healey". > Rather, > they say it's an Austin, but the type is Healey.. > I thought at first they must be wrong, but then I looked at the VIN plate, > and it says Austin.. > > > Any thoughts? > > How are your cars registered? > > The Florida Title I have has: > Make: AUHE > Model: /empty/ > > Thanks for all help, > > Tadek From tomfelts at windstream.net Thu Jul 31 07:24:50 2008 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (tomfelts at windstream.net) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 9:24:50 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Long Shot Request Message-ID: <20080731132450.ZLXV29060.ispmxmta06-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> I have an ANSA exhaust system on my BJ8. The rear resonators are starting to erode through in several places. By ANY chance does anyone have or know of a set of ANSA rear resonators for a BJ8 that they might sell? Cheers tom From al at bighealey.org Thu Jul 31 07:04:25 2008 From: al at bighealey.org (Al Fuller) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 09:04:25 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Tricarb Choke Cables In-Reply-To: <31F5A595-3FF6-4AF3-B6C5-C892946407CB@ntelos.net> Message-ID: <000701c8f30d$f6258e80$c801a8c0@ARIZONA> Thanks, Dave: I made the rounds yesterday to a bicycle shop and a newer motorcycle shop for parts. At both places the clerks behind the counter had their eyes glaze over when I told them it was for a car, and couldn't give them their standard part number so they could pick it off the shelf. I will look for an older motorcycle shop, or will talk to the Norman Nock about it. Thanks for the input!! Al Fuller Fuller Compliance, LLC Quality Systems Consulting Software Quality, Validation + 21 CFR Part 11 714.335.0248 www.fullercompliance.com -----Original Message----- From: David Schweninger [mailto:quenty at ntelos.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 5:21 PM To: Al Fuller; Healey Mail List Cc: David Schweninger Subject: Tricarb Choke Cables Al, These pictures show the choke cable setup on my BN7. The main cable from the dash is a standard repro. I made the cables to the carbs. They are all standard motorcycle throttle parts. This consists of the Black Sleeving, the End Caps for the sleeving, the 1/16" stranded (7X19) Cable, and the Ferrel which is soldered on to the upper end of the cable. An older motorcycle shop will have all the parts. The newer shops tend to be like Kmart ,with complete assemblies in little plastic bags. Good luck Dave and Daisy This shows the sleeving pulled back. Note the end cap. Also the ferrel is just visible on the brass barrel. This shows the Ferrel which has a small cup on the large end. the cable is pushed through and the cable is splayed open a bit, then pulled back in to the cup and soldered. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image001.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image002.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image003.jpg] From WhoCares56 at aol.com Thu Jul 31 07:40:44 2008 From: WhoCares56 at aol.com (WhoCares56 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 09:40:44 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Fw: RON PHILLIPS Passing (A-H Assoc of So. Calif & A-H Club of ... Message-ID: Rich, I don't think Ron's 100 ever achieved Gold, but if there were a concours for Healey people, he would have awarded Gold for sure. He will be missed, a lot. Carroll In a message dated 7/31/2008 6:05:41 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, richchrysler at quickclic.net writes: I only met Ron once, and that was at the AHCA Conclave in Rockford, Ill. in 1990. We had just begun the National Concours Registry and I believe his beautiful Hundred was the first to achieve Gold. He was a great fellow, and very knowledgeable. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "62bt7" <62bt7 at prodigy.net> To: Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 12:57 AM Subject: [Healeys] Fw: RON PHILLIPS Passing (A-H Assoc of So. Calif & A-H Club of San Diego) > Subject: RON PHILLIPS Passing (A-H Assoc of So. Calif & A-H Club of San > Diego) > > > Ron Phillips Passing. > > (Ron's by line: "The Nut Behind the Wheel") > > > I am sorry to have to pass this information on to all of you but Ron > Phillips > climbed into his 100 and drove off to Heaven today. I believe that it > happened at home as La Rea was quit upset when I so spoke with her on the > phone. Her comment was, "That he just passed away. "I am not really good > at > this type of thing so I will just say that at the present time she is > talking > about having the funeral on Monday 4Aug08 but that is not set in concrete. > Will give more info as I get it. > > Bow your heads and say a prayer, > > Chic > > P.S. I do not have all of the addresses so if you know of someone not on > the > list please forward. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as richchrysler at quickclic.net > > http://www.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as whocares56 at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) From hartfiel at alumni.princeton.edu Thu Jul 31 08:04:04 2008 From: hartfiel at alumni.princeton.edu (Michael Hartfield) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 07:04:04 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Sheikh flies Lamborghini 6, 500 miles to Britain for oil change Message-ID: Real collectors know how to take car of their wheels. http://tinyurl.com/5f7zdx Michael BJ8 From helyjohn at cablespeed.com Thu Jul 31 10:29:17 2008 From: helyjohn at cablespeed.com (John Snyder) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 08:29:17 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Windsield Scratches Message-ID: <36DB0C69E75C4D4E9D2DAA9D5DF3D91A@FRED> Does anyone out there know of a good way to remove/polish out small scratches in a windshield. I'm in the final stages of a ground up restoration of a 1959 BN7, and there are some small scratches in the inside (rear) of its original windshield. TIA John Snyder From peter.svilans at rogers.com Thu Jul 31 10:01:45 2008 From: peter.svilans at rogers.com (Peter Svilans) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:01:45 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey or Austin ? Message-ID: <002a01c8f326$bbd45220$6500a8c0@9535DEE118EC44B> Austin hyphen Healey was a marque in its own right. It is always listed separately from Austin, who were merely the manufacturers. It was not a model of Austin, like the Westminster, and I think the fiercely proud Healey family would be horrified at the suggestion. BMC paid royalties to the Healey family on every Austin-Healey sold until 1970, when the agreement made in 1952 ran out. For 1971 the Austin-Healey Sprite Mk IV became simply the Austin Sprite, at which point it was indeed a 'model' of Austin. One thousand of these were made before the Sprite name was dropped in favour of the Midget. Best regards Peter From glemon at neb.rr.com Thu Jul 31 10:31:25 2008 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (glemon at neb.rr.com) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:31:25 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Registering Austin Healey Message-ID: <25882303.271431217521885577.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web07-z02> I always thought of Austin as the parent company and Austin Healey as a subsidiary marque. Certainly the cars were badged and marketed as "Austin Healey" "3000" "Austin Healey" "Sprite" not "Austin" "Healey Sprite". And in fact after DMH left and the Austin Healey Sprite became the Austin Sprite, I think they were changing the name of the marque, not the name of the model of the car, which is of course simply "Sprite" is it not? My original 100 Service Manual is published by the Austin Motor Company Limited, but then again there is literature that refers to "the Austin Healey automobile" and a specific one that I could find, the 12 page AH 100 marketing brochure, refers to the Austin Healey '100' with the Hundred in quotes as shown. That would seem to me to indicate that Austin considered Austin Healey is the make or marque, and 100 the model name. Austin marketed the Austin Healey as a separate marque, even though it certainly was made, sold and serviced by the Austin Motor Company Limited. The Cambridge online dictionary defines "marque" as: "noun [C] a name of a range of cars, which is sometimes different from the name of the company that produces them" have had three Austin Healeys in the states and they have all been registered a AHs. As far as the Polish DMV, probably not worth arguing with them. Greg Lemon From jimf at frakes-eng.com Thu Jul 31 10:47:25 2008 From: jimf at frakes-eng.com (Frakes, Jim) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:47:25 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: RON PHILLIPS Passing (A-H Assoc of So. Calif & A-H Club of San Diego) References: <02cb01c8f2c9$ec73a7d0$a535480c@kirkgrbymz8g9u> Message-ID: Gents, I did not know Ron, but assume he was the same Ron that drove the Black over red w hardtop that took 1st in class at San Diego Car show in June? If so, I have three very good pix of him and wife in the car, taking off from the hotel on the way to the car show, at speed with the Bay in the back ground. Three more as he accepted the 1st in class trophy at Mercadero Park. Anyone wanting to me to send a copy, send me an email. PREFER one person from SO Cal to be a responder as I can't send to all. I know the list will strip them off. Jim Frakes, Pres. Central Indiana AHC -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+jimf=frakes-eng.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+jimf=frakes-eng.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of 62bt7 Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 12:57 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Fw: RON PHILLIPS Passing (A-H Assoc of So. Calif & A-H Club of San Diego) Subject: RON PHILLIPS Passing (A-H Assoc of So. Calif & A-H Club of San Diego) Ron Phillips Passing. (Ron's by line: "The Nut Behind the Wheel") I am sorry to have to pass this information on to all of you but Ron Phillips climbed into his 100 and drove off to Heaven today. I believe that it happened at home as La Rea was quit upset when I so spoke with her on the phone. Her comment was, "That he just passed away. "I am not really good at this type of thing so I will just say that at the present time she is talking about having the funeral on Monday 4Aug08 but that is not set in concrete. Will give more info as I get it. Bow your heads and say a prayer, Chic P.S. I do not have all of the addresses so if you know of someone not on the list please forward. Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as jimf at frakes-eng.com http://www.team.net/archive CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and it may contain information that is privileged or confidential. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient (or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us by telephone at the number listed above or by return e-mail. From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Jul 31 10:52:31 2008 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:52:31 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Windsield Scratches Message-ID: <073120081652.17601.4891EDCF000A8A85000044C1220702065304040A0B079F9C0D@comcast.net> Eastwood sells a kit (would probably be cheaper elsewhere). It's a buffing disk and a special mineral compound (rhodium or rhinolyte or something like that). I tried it on a pretty scored windshield, it took off fine scratches, nothing too deep. I think Eastwood sells several kits for varying depths of scratches. I believe you have to use them in succession (coarse to fine) to totally polish out the glass. I think you would probably be better off getting a new windshield (esp. for a ground-up). bs -- *************************************************************** Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net '67 Austin-Healey 3000 '56 Austin-Healey 100M *************************************************************** -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "John Snyder" > Does anyone out there know of a good way to remove/polish out small scratches > in a windshield. I'm in the final stages of a ground up restoration of a 1959 > BN7, and there are some small scratches in the inside (rear) of its original > windshield. TIA > > John Snyder > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as bspidell at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl Thu Jul 31 10:54:45 2008 From: tadeusz.malkiewicz at plusnet.pl (Tadeusz Malkiewicz) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:54:45 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Austin Healey or Austin? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c8f32e$22c83350$0200a8c0@tm4> Well, To mu understanding there is a: Make Model Marque Manufacturer Type What they are looking for in Poland is the _marque_, I believe.. So, what is "Austin Healey"??? Was it a joint venture? As it a company? Ltd? I am beginning to be curious.. Tadek PS. What "Make" and "Type" do You have in your Titles or registration papers? -----Original Message----- From: Patrick and Caroline Quinn [mailto:p_cquinn at tpg.com.au] Sent: 31 lipca 2008 15:16 To: 'Rich C'; 'Tadeusz Malkiewicz'; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Healeys] Austin Healey or Austin? G'day Well!!!!! Not quite a 100% correct. The name of the actual marque and make of car shown in the timeline of British cars is Austin-Healey. 100, 100/6 and 3000 are models. It was a registered name. Austin was a separate name and manufacturer as was Healey. There was only one ever Healey 100 that was changed over night to an Austin-Healey 100. Plus Healey cars are very different again. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia 1947 Healey Duncan (It's a Healey car and Duncan is the model) 1954 Austin-Healey 100 BN3/1 (It's an Austin-Healey and 100 BN3/1 model) -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+p_cquinn=tpg.com.au at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+p_cquinn=tpg.com.au at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rich C Sent: Thursday, 31 July 2008 11:01 PM To: Tadeusz Malkiewicz; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Austin Healey or Austin? Tadek, Your DMV in Poland is right on. The "make" of car is an Austin, the "model" is Healey or Healey 100. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tadeusz Malkiewicz" To: Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 5:51 AM Subject: [Healeys] Austin Healey or Austin? >I have a small question - what/who is officially the "make" of the car: > Austin Healey or Austin? > > Was there a company called Austin-Healey?.. > > The reason I am asking is I am trying to register the car at DMV in > Poland - > they are reluctant to accept the make of the car as "Austin-Healey". > Rather, > they say it's an Austin, but the type is Healey.. > I thought at first they must be wrong, but then I looked at the VIN plate, > and it says Austin.. > > > Any thoughts? > > How are your cars registered? > > The Florida Title I have has: > Make: AUHE > Model: /empty/ > > Thanks for all help, > > Tadek From TedSeven at TorchLake.com Thu Jul 31 11:03:09 2008 From: TedSeven at TorchLake.com (Ted Schroeder) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:03:09 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] chirp/squeek in BN-1 Message-ID: <20080731170257.AD808187870@autox.team.net> My car has a chirp - chirp - chirp most of the time. It does it when moving and when idling. It sounds like it's coming from under the hood or under the dash. I just discovered that when I turn the steering wheel to the left (while idling) it stops. It must be coming from the steering column - I would guess. Has anyone else had this experience? Getting into the steering column looks like a big job. Thanks in advance for any input. Ted Schroeder '55 BN-1 From kentmclean at comcast.net Thu Jul 31 11:36:31 2008 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (kentmclean at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:36:31 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Austin Healey or Austin? Message-ID: <073120081736.13907.4891F81F0005D29E000036532216557996020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net> "Rich C" wrote: > Your DMV in Poland is right on. The "make" of car is an Austin, the "model" > is Healey or Healey 100. We may know it is an Austin-Healey, but you are dealing with the government. Make life easy and let them call it an Austin, get it registered, and the with paperwork in hand, enjoy driving your Austin-Healey. -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 From robert.w.johnson at charter.net Thu Jul 31 11:44:30 2008 From: robert.w.johnson at charter.net (Bob Johnson) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:44:30 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Windsield Scratches References: <36DB0C69E75C4D4E9D2DAA9D5DF3D91A@FRED> Message-ID: <00a401c8f335$15ef4e00$021919ac@valued28addca9> In the very small town that I lived in for 28 years there was a glass shop that did glass repair work, i.e., removing scratches and bulls-eyes from windshields. Worked fine except for the deepest scratches on my windshield. Look in the yellow pages ads for glass repair. Bob Johnson BJ8 > Does anyone out there know of a good way to remove/polish out small > scratches > in a windshield. From jimf at frakes-eng.com Thu Jul 31 11:50:53 2008 From: jimf at frakes-eng.com (Frakes, Jim) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:50:53 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Windsield Scratches References: <36DB0C69E75C4D4E9D2DAA9D5DF3D91A@FRED> <00a401c8f335$15ef4e00$021919ac@valued28addca9> Message-ID: I have also used Griot's or (Eastwood?)glass polishing kit. Be careful with too much pressure on the grit / polish and cover everything before you turn it on. -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+jimf=frakes-eng.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+jimf=frakes-eng.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Johnson Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 1:45 PM To: John Snyder; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Windsield Scratches In the very small town that I lived in for 28 years there was a glass shop that did glass repair work, i.e., removing scratches and bulls-eyes from windshields. Worked fine except for the deepest scratches on my windshield. Look in the yellow pages ads for glass repair. Bob Johnson BJ8 > Does anyone out there know of a good way to remove/polish out small > scratches > in a windshield. Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as jimf at frakes-eng.com http://www.team.net/archive CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and it may contain information that is privileged or confidential. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient (or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us by telephone at the number listed above or by return e-mail. From 62bt7 at prodigy.net Thu Jul 31 12:02:18 2008 From: 62bt7 at prodigy.net (62bt7) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:02:18 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] RON PHILLIPS - Photo from his last Healey Event. Conclave 2008. Message-ID: <034601c8f337$94973ef0$a535480c@kirkgrbymz8g9u> Photo of Ron Phillips at his last Healey event, Conclave 2008, San Diego, CA., June 29-July 4. (Ron went out on top, 'First Place-3000 MkII. Tri-Carb') L-R, Carroll Goldsworth, RON, Dr.LeRae Phillips, Ron Davies, Sandy Davies. (All the best of friends since way back when ???, the1970's ???) (DOCTOR of All Things Healey), Ron always had the correct answers for me !!! First met him at 'California Healey Week 1984', Lake Arrowhead, CA. What a sad, sad, turn of events !!! I'm quite sure, Ron is now bringing Donald up to speed on All Things Healey. I wonder if Ron is now introducing Donald to his HEALEY-FEEELY game ?? (Identifying Healey parts by feel, sewn into shop rags) RON will be sorely missed by me and all that knew him, what a gentleman he was, never a cross word, always willing to pitch-in and do whatever it took to get-er-done. Ron's Healey article by line, "The Nut Behind the Wheel", his sign-off, "Till Next Time"........Ron Phillips. Cheers and Happy-Healeying Ron......July 30, 2008. Kirk Kvam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lou G" To: <62BT7 at prodigy.net> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 8:20 AM Subject: Picture from Conclave We are very sad to here about Ron. Here is a picture from earlier this month. Lou [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of IMG_1030.JPG] From rpmengr at bellsouth.net Thu Jul 31 12:08:19 2008 From: rpmengr at bellsouth.net (Bob Memler) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:08:19 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Windshield scratches Message-ID: <4891FF93.7080109@bellsouth.net> Eastwood makes some real good stuff to get out scratches. Google them for their catalog. Bob Memler '54 BN1 From al at bighealey.org Thu Jul 31 11:04:20 2008 From: al at bighealey.org (Al Fuller) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:04:20 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Windshield Scratches In-Reply-To: <36DB0C69E75C4D4E9D2DAA9D5DF3D91A@FRED> Message-ID: <002301c8f32f$7a4f50d0$c801a8c0@ARIZONA> Hello, John: I would use "0000" ("four ought") steel wool to polish out the glass. Try it out on a small unobtrusive spot first - and make darn sure it is 0000 and not the 000 or rougher steel wool else you will really have a problem!! Al Fuller Fuller Compliance, LLC Quality Systems Consulting Software Quality, Validation + 21 CFR Part 11 714.335.0248 www.fullercompliance.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+al=bighealey.org at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+al=bighealey.org at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Snyder Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 12:29 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Windsield Scratches Does anyone out there know of a good way to remove/polish out small scratches in a windshield. I'm in the final stages of a ground up restoration of a 1959 BN7, and there are some small scratches in the inside (rear) of its original windshield. TIA John Snyder From peter.svilans at rogers.com Thu Jul 31 12:28:18 2008 From: peter.svilans at rogers.com (Peter Svilans) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:28:18 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey or Austin ? Message-ID: <004201c8f33b$34961450$6500a8c0@9535DEE118EC44B> Tadek, Make/ Marque (same thing) : Austin-Healey Model : 100 , 3000 Mark III, etc Manufacturer : The Austin Motor Co. Ltd. Type : (body style) 2-seat Roadster, Convertible The car was the product of a "gentleman's agreement" between Donald Healey, head of The Donald Healey Motor Company Ltd., and Sir Leonard Lord, head of The British Motor Corporation (Austin and Morris combined). It was to be produced as a joint venture, with Lord handling manufacturing and distribution and Healey retaining control over design and development. As far as government licensing offices go, I would also just roll with it. Don't argue with them, call it Make- Austin, Model -Healey, whatever. Grab your papers and get the hell out of the office. (Speaking from experience as someone who has registered several oddball cars not listed in the DMV computer) Best Peter From bstarke at telus.net Thu Jul 31 12:36:23 2008 From: bstarke at telus.net (bstarke at telus.net) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:36:23 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey or Austin ? References: <004201c8f33b$34961450$6500a8c0@9535DEE118EC44B> Message-ID: For what is worth, in BC the car is an "Austin Healy" and they cannot correct the spelling as that is what is in the system! I just put up with it in case they delete the whole marque! Bruce Starke Golden BC > >> As far as government licensing offices go, I would also just roll with >> it. > Don't argue with them, call it Make- Austin, Model -Healey, whatever. > Grab > your papers and get the hell out of the office. (Speaking from experience > as > someone who has registered several oddball cars not listed in the DMV > computer) From bstarke at telus.net Thu Jul 31 12:39:18 2008 From: bstarke at telus.net (bstarke at telus.net) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:39:18 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] gearbox rebuilder in Calgary Alberta? Message-ID: <81DAADCCE4FF4655A62AB42A65DEE814@homeef0oqjjyyd> Is there a decent Healey gearbox rebuilder in Calgary? I have what I hope is a minor problem but have not been able to fix it and want to get another opinion It is a centre shift box if that makes any difference Thanks Bruce Starke Golden BC Tricarb From normcay at volcano.net Thu Jul 31 13:27:32 2008 From: normcay at volcano.net (Norman Cay) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:27:32 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey or Austin Message-ID: <000001c8f343$7b2686e0$0300000a@normscomputer> You guys are all wrong. The California Department of Motor Vehicles document that I get every year registers mine as: Make: AHEAL Body type: SPTRDS We all know that California leads the way and can never be wrong. Norm Cay, AHEAL BN1 From 62bt7 at prodigy.net Thu Jul 31 13:43:06 2008 From: 62bt7 at prodigy.net (62bt7) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:43:06 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey or Austin References: <000001c8f343$7b2686e0$0300000a@normscomputer> Message-ID: <043501c8f345$a9846be0$a535480c@kirkgrbymz8g9u> California leads the way and can never be wrong ???? My Healeys: Make Body Type 1962BT7 AHEAL RDSDX4 1960BN7 AUKEL RDSTR Kirk Kvam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Cay" To: Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 12:27 PM Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey or Austin > You guys are all wrong. The California Department of Motor Vehicles > document > that I get every year registers mine as: > > Make: AHEAL > > Body type: SPTRDS > > > > We all know that California leads the way and can never be wrong. > > Norm Cay, AHEAL BN1 From gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com Thu Jul 31 14:05:48 2008 From: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com (Richard Collins) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:05:48 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Heat Insulation In-Reply-To: <20080730021351.DBC7A18765A@autox.team.net> References: <929410.28090.qm@web50006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080730021351.DBC7A18765A@autox.team.net> Message-ID: I know my BN7 has a non original trannie (top shift) but my hand brake comes out on the passenger side of the tunnel, not the driver side. Is this unique as I bought a carpet set from M+++ awhile back and I had to have a new tunnel cover carpet made because of it...also bought their thermal mat which works well from what I can tell. But I have also plugged lots of firewall openings, etc from the prior owners, etc. Richard of KY 1960 BN7 #440> From: schauss at worldnet.att.net> To: Healeys at autox.team.net> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 22:14:13 -0400> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Heat Insulation> > While we are on the subject of insulation, what suggestions do all of you> have for the blast of hot air which comes from around the handbrake, and the> shift lever boot and the fact that you could fry an egg on my ash tray?> > The guy I bought my car did a sufficiently good job of insulating the fire> wall, cockpit floor, and the gearbox tunnel that my feet do not get> unbearably hot. There is, however, a serious blast of hot air coming from> around the base of the hand brake. Although there are no cracks in the> shift lever boot, and it seems to seal well around the shift lever and the> opening in the tunnel I do feel a good bit of heat coming from that spot.> Then there is the ash tray....> > Thanks in advance for any suggestions.> > Peter Schauss> 1963 BJ7> 1980 MGB> > _________________________________________________________________ Time for vacation? WIN what you need- enter now! http://www.gowindowslive.com/summergiveaway/?ocid=tag_jlyhm From ronfineesq at earthlink.net Thu Jul 31 14:14:16 2008 From: ronfineesq at earthlink.net (Ronald A. Fine) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:14:16 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Healeys] Heat Insulation Message-ID: <5655520.1217535257626.JavaMail.root@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> The passenger side of the tunnel is the correct place for the hand brake lever on your BN7. Ron 61BN7 -----Original Message----- >From: Richard Collins >Sent: Jul 31, 2008 1:05 PM >To: Peter Schauss , healeys at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Healeys] Heat Insulation > >I know my BN7 has a non original trannie (top shift) but my hand brake comes >out on the passenger side of the tunnel, not the driver side. Is this unique >as I bought a carpet set from M+++ awhile back and I had to have a new tunnel >cover carpet made because of it...also bought their thermal mat which works >well from what I can tell. But I have also plugged lots of firewall openings, >etc from the prior owners, etc. From healeybruce at roadrunner.com Thu Jul 31 14:26:56 2008 From: healeybruce at roadrunner.com (Healey Bruce) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:26:56 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Heat Insulation References: Message-ID: <00ae01c8f34b$c72f6d10$9101a8c0@home> Ken, you see a lot of responses for Kool Mat and Dynamat. I took a different route, as those products were too thick to allow me to use my existing carpet. Fiberfrax is a ceramic cloth that is used in aerospace and aircraft applications. It controls temps to over 2000 degrees. I used 1/16" thick layer on the floors, and glued it to the vertical surfaces with 3M trim adhesive ("yellow snot"). It is cheaper than Dynamat by a lot--I don't recall how many feet I bought (comes 3 ft wide--perfect for the floor pans) but I spent about $50 and still have half of it left over. I bought it from Aircraft Spruce and Specialty. It cuts easily with scissors, but it will tear so you have to be a bit careful. Bruce Steele 1960 BN7 Brea, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 8:24 AM Subject: [Healeys] Heat Insulation >I recall this being discuss in the past but can not find it in the > archives. Any advice on the list for the best product to control heat into > the the > car? What is the best results and products for insulating the floor, > tunnel > etc to keep the heat out!!! I know the thickness of certain materials may > cause > some problems. > > > Ken > 66 BJ8 > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healeybruce at roadrunner.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From philritten at aol.com Thu Jul 31 14:34:46 2008 From: philritten at aol.com (philritten at aol.com) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:34:46 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Job Followup Message-ID: <8CAC16401488980-CB4-16C0@webmail-nc04.sysops.aol.com> All, Just got my car back (it's been in the shop for a week). At the end of the day, we got a defective wheel cylinder and a defective master cylinder from Moss. I hate to say bad things, but that doesn't really seem like a very high standard. Seems there should be testing of cylinders before they are sent (by the sub or by Moss themselves). I was fortunate the shop didn't charge me an arm and leg. Regards From healeybruce at roadrunner.com Thu Jul 31 14:37:40 2008 From: healeybruce at roadrunner.com (Healey Bruce) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:37:40 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Ron Phillips Message-ID: <016401c8f34d$47141930$9101a8c0@home> If you would like to send a note of remembrance about Ron, please send to me and I will put them together and present them to LeRae. I am planning on attending his service on Monday, though I may not be able to get it done in time for that. Bruce Steele 1960 BN7 Brea, CA From ruvino at ripnet.com Thu Jul 31 15:22:37 2008 From: ruvino at ripnet.com (Dr. C. Rubino) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:22:37 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] HD-8 carbs Message-ID: <000b01c8f353$8fab9140$cf7b4e42@OEM7E16A96DA48> Removed the carbs to replace manifold gasket. Put them back-drove to car show (100miles round trip) everything fine until I got home and in town driving a lot of missing. Pulled the plugs and back ones were fouled. cleaned them up and installed them then re-tuned using tom Mason's article from Dec/91-always worked for me. So now all six plugs are foulng and although idle speed screw is at the bottom am geting idle of 1,700. What am I doing wrong. By the way electronic ignition. From ah3000me at gmail.com Thu Jul 31 15:24:54 2008 From: ah3000me at gmail.com (T W) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:24:54 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Austin Healey or Austin? In-Reply-To: <000001c8f2f2$fdeacc90$1c05447e@tm4> References: <000001c8f2f2$fdeacc90$1c05447e@tm4> Message-ID: I guess everyone's DMV has a Patty and Selma Bouvier! - Tom On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 5:51 AM, Tadeusz Malkiewicz wrote: > I have a small question - what/who is officially the "make" of the car: > Austin Healey or Austin? > > Was there a company called Austin-Healey?.. > > The reason I am asking is I am trying to register the car at DMV in Poland > - > they are reluctant to accept the make of the car as "Austin-Healey". > Rather, > they say it's an Austin, but the type is Healey.. > I thought at first they must be wrong, but then I looked at the VIN plate, > and it says Austin.. > > > Any thoughts? > > How are your cars registered? > > The Florida Title I have has: > Make: AUHE > Model: /empty/ > > Thanks for all help, > > Tadek > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as ah3000me at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From ah3000me at gmail.com Thu Jul 31 15:33:21 2008 From: ah3000me at gmail.com (T W) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:33:21 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Marque gas article Message-ID: The Healey Marque article about gasoline grades was interesting. Has anyone seen 92 or 93 octane gas in the southern or mid-coast Maine area recently? - Tom From gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com Thu Jul 31 15:34:31 2008 From: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com (Richard Collins) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:34:31 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Heat Insulation In-Reply-To: <5655520.1217535257626.JavaMail.root@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <5655520.1217535257626.JavaMail.root@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Thanks for the confirm. I assumed the M+++ carpet brake cut-out on the wrong side was just a QC issue. They replaced it with a correct one without issue (well, it needed work too, but no worse than other items) but it had me scratching my head for a bit. RVC> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:14:16 -0700> From: ronfineesq at earthlink.net> To: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com; schauss at worldnet.att.net; healeys at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Heat Insulation> > > The passenger side of the tunnel is the correct place for the hand brake lever> on your BN7.> > Ron > 61BN7> > _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch when you're away with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenge r2_072008 From pennell at cox.net Thu Jul 31 15:43:08 2008 From: pennell at cox.net (pennell at cox.net) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:43:08 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] chirp/squeek in BN-1 In-Reply-To: <20080731170257.AD808187870@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <20080731174308.SLLXA.12330.imail@eastrmwml37> Ted, does it chirp with the engine not running???? Chirp with engine running is classic sound of a dry water pump. Keith Pennell > My car has a chirp - chirp - chirp most of the time. It does it when moving > and when idling. It sounds like it's coming from under the hood or under the > dash. I just discovered that when I turn the steering wheel to the left > (while idling) it stops. It must be coming from the steering column - I > would guess. Has anyone else had this experience? Getting into the steering > column looks like a big job. > > Thanks in advance for any input. > > Ted Schroeder > > '55 BN-1 From jstmorris at yahoo.com Thu Jul 31 15:44:35 2008 From: jstmorris at yahoo.com (J. Scott Morris) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:44:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] eBay-Sale Documents re Rolls Royce Healey Message-ID: <67693.58096.qm@web30303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> No financial interest in auction but thought it might be of interest to List. Item number: 190241211941 http://cgi.ebay.com/DONALD-HEALEYS-1968-AUSTIN-HEALEY-ORIGL-SALE-DOCUMENTS_W0 QQitemZ190241211941QQihZ009QQcategoryZ60814QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewI tem Reads in part: '' ... The vehicle to which we refer is a 1968 Austin Healey, previously the property of Donald Healey of the Donald Healey motor Company. This vehicle was one of only four made and was destined to be the 1968 production model but for a change of policy by BLMC. It is in fact fitted with the four litre Rolls Royce engine and whilst the body shape is identical to that of the previous series it is in fact six inches wider. ... '' Enjoy!! --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada; '60 MkI BN7 & '62 MkII BT7 J. Scott Morris - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives __________________________________________________________________ Connect with friends from any web browser - no download required. Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger for the Web BETA at http://ca.messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php From al at bighealey.org Thu Jul 31 16:30:08 2008 From: al at bighealey.org (Al Fuller) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:30:08 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] RON PHILLIPS Pictures - now available In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000201c8f35c$fe3c3ac0$c801a8c0@ARIZONA> OK - I got the pics of Ron Phillips, created thumbnails and uploaded them to my website - and tested that they all load. Thanks to Jim Frakes for providing the pictures!! They can be found at http://www.bighealey.org/Ron_Phillips/ Al Fuller Fuller Compliance, LLC Quality Systems Consulting Software Quality, Validation + 21 CFR Part 11 714.335.0248 www.fullercompliance.com From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Jul 31 16:57:44 2008 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 22:57:44 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Marque gas article Message-ID: <073120082257.5739.489243680007AF480000166B220076219404040A0B079F9C0D@comcast.net> Worth a shot: http://www.newenglandracingfuel.com/ I found 93 and 100(!) octane gas in liberal Los Altos, CA. bs -- *************************************************************** Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net '67 Austin-Healey 3000 '56 Austin-Healey 100M *************************************************************** -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "T W" > The Healey Marque article about gasoline grades was interesting. Has anyone > seen 92 or 93 octane gas in the southern or mid-coast Maine area recently? > > - Tom > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as bspidell at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From dwhite4949 at wowway.com Thu Jul 31 17:35:33 2008 From: dwhite4949 at wowway.com (Daniel and Diane White) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:35:33 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Re Heat insulation Message-ID: <48924C45.2080403@wowway.com> Richard Collins wrote: > I assumed the M+++ carpet brake cut-out on the wrong > side was just a QC issue. They replaced it with a correct one without issue > (well, it needed work too, but no worse than other items) but it had me > scratching my head for a bit. Here's my opinion of M***. I stopped using them a long time ago and I don't miss the grief. If you are a masochist order from them. O.K., flame away. Cheers, Dan 1962 BN7 Mk II From Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au Thu Jul 31 18:16:53 2008 From: Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au (Quinn, Patrick) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:16:53 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Heat Insulation In-Reply-To: <5655520.1217535257626.JavaMail.root@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <5655520.1217535257626.JavaMail.root@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <3CFB7014611C6F418B529D81EC0708C70169F923@itfexch5.central.det.win> G'day In this part of the world the correct place for the handbrake lever is on the driver's side of the tunnel. I will be signing off from the list today for 5 weeks as my wife and I will be in the US and Canada next week. If anyone is attending the Monterey Historics over the weekend of 16/17 August, please come and look me up at the Vintage Racecar stand and we can talk about real cars (ie Healeys and Austin-Healeys) for a time. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia 1947 Healey Duncan Saloon 1954 Austin-Healey 100 BN3/1 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+patrick.quinn=det.nsw.edu.au at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+patrick.quinn=det.nsw.edu.au at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ronald A. Fine Sent: Friday, 1 August 2008 6:14 AM To: Richard Collins; Peter Schauss; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Heat Insulation The passenger side of the tunnel is the correct place for the hand brake lever on your BN7. Ron 61BN7 -----Original Message----- >From: Richard Collins >Sent: Jul 31, 2008 1:05 PM >To: Peter Schauss , healeys at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Healeys] Heat Insulation > >I know my BN7 has a non original trannie (top shift) but my hand brake comes >out on the passenger side of the tunnel, not the driver side. Is this unique >as I bought a carpet set from M+++ awhile back and I had to have a new tunnel >cover carpet made because of it...also bought their thermal mat which works >well from what I can tell. But I have also plugged lots of firewall openings, >etc from the prior owners, etc. ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From e-wilkins at cox.net Thu Jul 31 18:22:42 2008 From: e-wilkins at cox.net (Eric (Rick) Wilkins) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:22:42 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] HD-8 carbs In-Reply-To: <000b01c8f353$8fab9140$cf7b4e42@OEM7E16A96DA48> References: <000b01c8f353$8fab9140$cf7b4e42@OEM7E16A96DA48> Message-ID: <140FD212-FA66-493A-9CF2-6CEF15D9FC7A@cox.net> Sounds to me like an air leak (or two). Your gaskets, manifold and/or carb, are not sealing. Wilko On Jul 31, 2008, at 2:22 PM, Dr. C. Rubino wrote: > Removed the carbs to replace manifold gasket. Put them back-drove to > car show > (100miles round trip) everything fine until I got home and in town > driving a > lot of missing. Pulled the plugs and back ones were fouled. cleaned > them up > and installed them then re-tuned using tom Mason's article from Dec/ > 91-always > worked for me. > > So now all six plugs are foulng and although idle speed screw is at > the bottom > am geting idle of 1,700. What am I doing wrong. By the way electronic > ignition. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as e-wilkins at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Jul 31 18:55:37 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 08:55:37 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] eBay-Sale Documents re Rolls Royce Healey In-Reply-To: <67693.58096.qm@web30303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <67693.58096.qm@web30303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Well I hope this is legitimate. Certainly the 2,000 quid price tag probably is. Goes to show all the super shiny, perfect LBCs in The Bank Job was completely unrealistic - I visited London in the early 70's and I can tell you cars were not worth that much, and they were all rather dirty and run down at the time! Alan On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 5:44 AM, J. Scott Morris wrote: > No financial interest in auction but thought it might be of interest to > List. > > Item number: 190241211941 > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/DONALD-HEALEYS-1968-AUSTIN-HEALEY-ORIGL-SALE-DOCUMENTS_W0 > > QQitemZ190241211941QQihZ009QQcategoryZ60814QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewI > tem > > Reads in part: '' ... The vehicle to which we refer is a 1968 Austin > Healey, > previously the property of Donald Healey of the Donald Healey motor > Company. > This vehicle was one of only four made and was destined to be the 1968 > production model but for a change of policy by BLMC. It is in fact fitted > with > the four litre Rolls Royce engine and whilst the body shape is identical to > that of the previous series it is in fact six inches wider. ... '' > > Enjoy!! > --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada; '60 MkI BN7 & '62 MkII BT7 > J. Scott Morris - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives > __________________________________________________________________ > Connect > with friends from any web browser - no download required. Try the new > Yahoo! > Canada Messenger for the Web BETA at > http://ca.messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as healey.nut at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au Thu Jul 31 18:58:46 2008 From: Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au (Quinn, Patrick) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:58:46 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Heat Insulation In-Reply-To: <3CFB7014611C6F418B529D81EC0708C70169F923@itfexch5.central.det.win> References: <5655520.1217535257626.JavaMail.root@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <3CFB7014611C6F418B529D81EC0708C70169F923@itfexch5.central.det.win> Message-ID: <3CFB7014611C6F418B529D81EC0708C70169F926@itfexch5.central.det.win> To Steve Byers Sorry to bore the socks off everyone with this email. STEVE BYERS I can't send you an email as it keep bouncing back as undeliverable. I have put my 20cents in the slot, but it still doesn't like me. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+patrick.quinn=det.nsw.edu.au at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+patrick.quinn=det.nsw.edu.au at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Quinn, Patrick Sent: Friday, 1 August 2008 10:17 AM To: Ronald A. Fine; Richard Collins; Peter Schauss; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Heat Insulation G'day In this part of the world the correct place for the handbrake lever is on the driver's side of the tunnel. I will be signing off from the list today for 5 weeks as my wife and I will be in the US and Canada next week. If anyone is attending the Monterey Historics over the weekend of 16/17 August, please come and look me up at the Vintage Racecar stand and we can talk about real cars (ie Healeys and Austin-Healeys) for a time. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia 1947 Healey Duncan Saloon 1954 Austin-Healey 100 BN3/1 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+patrick.quinn=det.nsw.edu.au at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+patrick.quinn=det.nsw.edu.au at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ronald A. Fine Sent: Friday, 1 August 2008 6:14 AM To: Richard Collins; Peter Schauss; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Heat Insulation The passenger side of the tunnel is the correct place for the hand brake lever on your BN7. Ron 61BN7 -----Original Message----- >From: Richard Collins >Sent: Jul 31, 2008 1:05 PM >To: Peter Schauss , healeys at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Healeys] Heat Insulation > >I know my BN7 has a non original trannie (top shift) but my hand brake comes >out on the passenger side of the tunnel, not the driver side. Is this unique >as I bought a carpet set from M+++ awhile back and I had to have a new tunnel >cover carpet made because of it...also bought their thermal mat which works >well from what I can tell. But I have also plugged lots of firewall openings, >etc from the prior owners, etc. ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as patrick.quinn at det.nsw.edu.au http://www.team.net/archive ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From tomfelts at windstream.net Thu Jul 31 19:02:39 2008 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (tomfelts at windstream.net) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:02:39 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Heat Insulation Message-ID: <20080801010239.GFO13398.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> IIRC Fiberfrax has fibers similiar to asbestos, though not as bad. Better check the MSDS sheet before cutting it where it can be inhaled. tom > > From: "Healey Bruce" > Date: 2008/07/31 Thu PM 04:26:56 EDT > To: , > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Heat Insulation > > Ken, you see a lot of responses for Kool Mat and Dynamat. I took a > different route, as those products were too thick to allow me to use my > existing carpet. Fiberfrax is a ceramic cloth that is used in aerospace and > aircraft applications. It controls temps to over 2000 degrees. I used > 1/16" thick layer on the floors, and glued it to the vertical surfaces with > 3M trim adhesive ("yellow snot"). It is cheaper than Dynamat by a lot--I > don't recall how many feet I bought (comes 3 ft wide--perfect for the floor > pans) but I spent about $50 and still have half of it left over. I bought > it from Aircraft Spruce and Specialty. It cuts easily with scissors, but it > will tear so you have to be a bit careful. > > Bruce Steele > 1960 BN7 > Brea, CA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 8:24 AM > Subject: [Healeys] Heat Insulation > > > >I recall this being discuss in the past but can not find it in the > > archives. Any advice on the list for the best product to control heat into > > the the > > car? What is the best results and products for insulating the floor, > > tunnel > > etc to keep the heat out!!! I know the thickness of certain materials may > > cause > > some problems. > > > > > > Ken > > 66 BJ8 > > > > > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > You are subscribed as healeybruce at roadrunner.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as tomfelts at windstream.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au Thu Jul 31 19:03:06 2008 From: Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au (Quinn, Patrick) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:03:06 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] eBay-Sale Documents re Rolls Royce Healey In-Reply-To: References: <67693.58096.qm@web30303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3CFB7014611C6F418B529D81EC0708C70169F928@itfexch5.central.det.win> G'day They were as cheap as chips in the early 1970s. I knocked back a 100S for the equivalent of Aus$2000 at the time. I bought the BN3 in 1974 for way less than that. And just in one day of driving around London and environs I saw 2 genuine ex Works Rally 3000s parked in suburban streets. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+patrick.quinn=det.nsw.edu.au at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+patrick.quinn=det.nsw.edu.au at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Alan Seigrist Sent: Friday, 1 August 2008 10:56 AM To: jstmorris at yahoo.com Cc: Austin Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] eBay-Sale Documents re Rolls Royce Healey Well I hope this is legitimate. Certainly the 2,000 quid price tag probably is. Goes to show all the super shiny, perfect LBCs in The Bank Job was completely unrealistic - I visited London in the early 70's and I can tell you cars were not worth that much, and they were all rather dirty and run down at the time! Alan On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 5:44 AM, J. Scott Morris wrote: > No financial interest in auction but thought it might be of interest to > List. > > Item number: 190241211941 > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/DONALD-HEALEYS-1968-AUSTIN-HEALEY-ORIGL-SALE-DOCUMEN TS_W0 > > QQitemZ190241211941QQihZ009QQcategoryZ60814QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewI > tem > > Reads in part: '' ... The vehicle to which we refer is a 1968 Austin > Healey, > previously the property of Donald Healey of the Donald Healey motor > Company. > This vehicle was one of only four made and was destined to be the 1968 > production model but for a change of policy by BLMC. It is in fact fitted > with > the four litre Rolls Royce engine and whilst the body shape is identical to > that of the previous series it is in fact six inches wider. ... '' > > Enjoy!! > --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada; '60 MkI BN7 & '62 MkII BT7 > J. Scott Morris - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Jul 31 19:03:36 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:03:36 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Heat Insulation In-Reply-To: <3CFB7014611C6F418B529D81EC0708C70169F923@itfexch5.central.det.win> References: <5655520.1217535257626.JavaMail.root@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <3CFB7014611C6F418B529D81EC0708C70169F923@itfexch5.central.det.win> Message-ID: Patrick - Whatever you do, keep your Ozzie dosh close at hand, you wouldn't want to keep Yank dollars in your pocket - you might end up broke by the end of your trip, unless you plan on visiting Zimbabwe right afterward! Have a great trip!!! Alan On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 8:16 AM, Quinn, Patrick wrote: > G'day > > In this part of the world the correct place for the handbrake lever is > on the driver's side of the tunnel. > > I will be signing off from the list today for 5 weeks as my wife and I > will be in the US and Canada next week. If anyone is attending the > Monterey Historics over the weekend of 16/17 August, please come and > look me up at the Vintage Racecar stand and we can talk about real cars > (ie Healeys and Austin-Healeys) for a time. > > Hoo Roo > > Patrick Quinn > Sydney, Australia > > 1947 Healey Duncan Saloon > 1954 Austin-Healey 100 BN3/1 From philritten at aol.com Thu Jul 31 19:13:26 2008 From: philritten at aol.com (philritten at aol.com) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:13:26 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Question Message-ID: <8CAC18AEF4F726C-CB4-2286@webmail-nc04.sysops.aol.com> All, The shop that was working on my brakes told me that they had adjusted my brakes ( 4 wheel drum) out as far as they could, and that the reason the pedal won't come all the way to the top is that the drums are worn from 50 years of use (it's firm and almost all the way to the top). Is that possible? They said that drums are often good for only three sets of pads. If so, do you eventually have to put a lining in the drum as the drums are no longer made? I've never heard that drums could wear out. I thought the only way was if they were "turned". I know that in the old (!) days there were rivets on the pads which could cause damage. Thanks in advance, Phil From frogeye at porterscustom.com Thu Jul 31 20:06:31 2008 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (Dave Porter) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:06:31 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] chirp/squeek in BN-1 In-Reply-To: <20080731174308.SLLXA.12330.imail@eastrmwml37> Message-ID: <20080801020626.7F462187662@autox.team.net> Or a generator bearing/bushing or dry fan belt frogeye at porterscustom.com Porter Customs Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 505-352-1378 1954 BN2 Porter Custom Bicycles www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+frogeye=porterscustom.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+frogeye=porterscustom.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of pennell at cox.net Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 3:43 PM To: Ted Schroeder; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] chirp/squeek in BN-1 Ted, does it chirp with the engine not running???? Chirp with engine running is classic sound of a dry water pump. Keith Pennell > My car has a chirp - chirp - chirp most of the time. It does it when moving > and when idling. It sounds like it's coming from under the hood or under the > dash. I just discovered that when I turn the steering wheel to the left > (while idling) it stops. It must be coming from the steering column - I > would guess. Has anyone else had this experience? Getting into the steering > column looks like a big job. > > Thanks in advance for any input. > > Ted Schroeder > > '55 BN-1 Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as frogeye at porterscustom.com http://www.team.net/archive From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Jul 31 21:33:51 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:33:51 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Question In-Reply-To: <8CAC18AEF4F726C-CB4-2286@webmail-nc04.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CAC18AEF4F726C-CB4-2286@webmail-nc04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Phil - In my 25 years of owning Healeys, this is the first time I have EVER heard of this. If what they say was true, you would be able to buy new drums from Moss motors, but as you know you cannot buy new brake drums for these cars - that's because they don't wear out! The adjustment bolts on these cars will take up any amount of slack so I'd say your shop has been sniffing some brake pad vapors. Phil - what car do you have? Is it a BN1 or a BN2? Or BN4/6? One thing that is very particular about many of the drum brake healeys is they are very sensitive to how the brake system is bled. This is what is causing your problem. The brake system is best bled using an "ezibleed" kit which pressurizes the brake reservoir and makes sure all air is worked out of the system. It MUST be bled in the following order: Left Rear Right Rear Left Front Right Front If your shop has not bled the brakes in this way, then this is your problem, not the drums. You can confirm this by getting into your car and pumping the brake pedal quickly once or twice - if the pressure comes back after pumping the pedal, this means they have not properly bled the system. Find a better shop where they know what they are doing, or try to learn how to do this yourself. Doing brakes on Nissans and Fords is not the same as a '50s era Healey. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 9:13 AM, wrote: > All, > > The shop that was working on my brakes told me that they had adjusted my > brakes ( 4 wheel drum) out as far as they could, and that the reason the > pedal won't come all the way to the top is that the drums are worn from 50 > years of use (it's firm and almost all the way to the top). Is that > possible? They said that drums are often good for only three sets of pads. > If so, do you eventually have to put a lining in the drum as the drums are > no longer made? I've never heard that drums could wear out. I thought the > only way was if they were "turned". I know that in the old (!) days there > were rivets on the pads which could cause damage. > > Thanks in advance, > Phil From Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au Thu Jul 31 21:50:00 2008 From: Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au (Quinn, Patrick) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:50:00 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Question In-Reply-To: References: <8CAC18AEF4F726C-CB4-2286@webmail-nc04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <3CFB7014611C6F418B529D81EC0708C70169F932@itfexch5.central.det.win> G'day I know of a number of occasions when the drums had to be replaced as they were worn. However before doing so I would suggest that the drums be skimmed to ensure they are completely round and then have a set of oversize brake shoes made up. The actual shoe is the same size, but the brake material is thicker to take up for the thinner drums. Having said that I also know of drums that expand with heat to such an extent that the pedal is very spongy. Once they cool, the brakes are fine. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+patrick.quinn=det.nsw.edu.au at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+patrick.quinn=det.nsw.edu.au at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Alan Seigrist Sent: Friday, 1 August 2008 1:34 PM To: philritten at aol.com Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brake Question Phil - In my 25 years of owning Healeys, this is the first time I have EVER heard of this. If what they say was true, you would be able to buy new drums from Moss motors, but as you know you cannot buy new brake drums for these cars - that's because they don't wear out! The adjustment bolts on these cars will take up any amount of slack so I'd say your shop has been sniffing some brake pad vapors. Phil - what car do you have? Is it a BN1 or a BN2? Or BN4/6? One thing that is very particular about many of the drum brake healeys is they are very sensitive to how the brake system is bled. This is what is causing your problem. The brake system is best bled using an "ezibleed" kit which pressurizes the brake reservoir and makes sure all air is worked out of the system. It MUST be bled in the following order: Left Rear Right Rear Left Front Right Front If your shop has not bled the brakes in this way, then this is your problem, not the drums. You can confirm this by getting into your car and pumping the brake pedal quickly once or twice - if the pressure comes back after pumping the pedal, this means they have not properly bled the system. Find a better shop where they know what they are doing, or try to learn how to do this yourself. Doing brakes on Nissans and Fords is not the same as a '50s era Healey. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From glemon at neb.rr.com Thu Jul 31 22:12:29 2008 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:12:29 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] chirp/squeek in BN-1 References: <20080801020626.7F462187662@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <300C3F2D1D54450BAC9F952710F844FC@Lemonlaptop> Some diagnostic questions and some guesses, you say it does it when idling and whem moving does the frequency go up and down directly with engine speed? (as in revving at idle) car speed? (rolling) or neither?, if engine speed then the generator/belt/water pump school of thought may be a good one, except you said turning the wheel to the left seems to stop it, which would make those sources somewhat less likely. In which case it could be in the stearing column, or a squeaky bushing or something like that. If you think it is in the column you might try just pressure up down sideways etc, on the steering wheel and see if it does anything. There is supposed to be a bush in the column that is often worn out or missing. You might also try pushing down on the front fender (either side) while idling and the sound is going on to see if that makes any difference. Disconnect the tach cable? once again the steering thing does not fit with this, but I have had squeaky instruments before. Greg Lemon (used to have a BN1 that made lots of noises) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Porter" To: ; "'Ted Schroeder'" ; Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] chirp/squeek in BN-1 > Or a generator bearing/bushing or dry fan belt > > frogeye at porterscustom.com > > Porter Customs > Albuquerque, NM USA 87107 > 505-352-1378 > 1954 BN2 > Porter Custom Bicycles > www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html > http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces+frogeye=porterscustom.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces+frogeye=porterscustom.com at autox.team.net] On > Behalf > Of pennell at cox.net > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 3:43 PM > To: Ted Schroeder; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] chirp/squeek in BN-1 > > Ted, does it chirp with the engine not running???? Chirp with engine > running is classic sound of a dry water pump. > > Keith Pennell > >> My car has a chirp - chirp - chirp most of the time. It does it when > moving >> and when idling. It sounds like it's coming from under the hood or under > the >> dash. I just discovered that when I turn the steering wheel to the left >> (while idling) it stops. It must be coming from the steering column - I >> would guess. Has anyone else had this experience? Getting into the > steering >> column looks like a big job. >> >> Thanks in advance for any input. >> >> Ted Schroeder >> >> '55 BN-1 > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as frogeye at porterscustom.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > You are subscribed as glemon at neb.rr.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From rusd at sitestar.net Thu Jul 31 22:14:56 2008 From: rusd at sitestar.net (Dave Russell) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 22:14:56 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Question In-Reply-To: References: <8CAC18AEF4F726C-CB4-2286@webmail-nc04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <48928DC0.2090604@sitestar.net> I agree with Alan, I know that the earlier cars with iron drums had induction hardened brake drums. It's very unusual for the drums to wear or go out of round. If the drums are ground oversize for some reason, the hardened surface may be eliminated & all bets are off on remaining drum life. Dave Russell BN2 Alan Seigrist wrote: >Phil - > >In my 25 years of owning Healeys, this is the first time I have EVER heard >of this. If what they say was true, you would be able to buy new drums from >Moss motors, but as you know you cannot buy new brake drums for these cars - >that's because they don't wear out! From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Jul 31 22:21:42 2008 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 12:21:42 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Question In-Reply-To: <3CFB7014611C6F418B529D81EC0708C70169F932@itfexch5.central.det.win> References: <8CAC18AEF4F726C-CB4-2286@webmail-nc04.sysops.aol.com> <3CFB7014611C6F418B529D81EC0708C70169F932@itfexch5.central.det.win> Message-ID: Patrick - What you say is true, but the drums would never wear so much that the adjustor peg wouldn't take up the slack. The problem is with the shop, not the brake drums. Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Quinn, Patrick < Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au> wrote: > G'day > > I know of a number of occasions when the drums had to be replaced as > they were worn. > > However before doing so I would suggest that the drums be skimmed to > ensure they are completely round and then have a set of oversize brake > shoes made up. > > The actual shoe is the same size, but the brake material is thicker to > take up for the thinner drums. > > Having said that I also know of drums that expand with heat to such an > extent that the pedal is very spongy. Once they cool, the brakes are > fine. > > Hoo Roo > > Patrick Quinn > Sydney, Australia From Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au Thu Jul 31 22:32:35 2008 From: Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au (Quinn, Patrick) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 14:32:35 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] FW: HEALEYS Message-ID: <3CFB7014611C6F418B529D81EC0708C70169F935@itfexch5.central.det.win> G'day Norman For some reason I can't get through to you direct. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn -----Original Message----- From: Quinn, Patrick Sent: Friday, 1 August 2008 2:31 PM To: 'sjnnock at sbcglobal.net' Subject: RE: HEALEYS G'day Norman Yes I did receive it thanks and will try the larger filter on my return. I have already looked on the map where you are and while I can't say for sure we may drop in. What's the best phone number to reach you on? Best wishes Patrick -----Original Message----- From: Norman Nock [mailto:sjnnock at sbcglobal.net] Sent: Friday, 1 August 2008 2:21 PM To: Quinn, Patrick Subject: HEALEYS DID you get my E-MAIL for the fuel filter ?? We are only 2 hour drive from San Francisco if you want to see Healeys in stages of restoration give us a call and visit our shop . Norman Nock --- On Thu, 7/31/08, Quinn, Patrick wrote: > From: Quinn, Patrick > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Heat Insulation > To: "Ronald A. Fine" , "Richard Collins" , "Peter Schauss" , healeys at autox.team.net > Date: Thursday, July 31, 2008, 5:16 PM > G'day > > In this part of the world the correct place for the > handbrake lever is > on the driver's side of the tunnel. > > I will be signing off from the list today for 5 weeks as my > wife and I > will be in the US and Canada next week. If anyone is > attending the > Monterey Historics over the weekend of 16/17 August, please > come and > look me up at the Vintage Racecar stand and we can talk > about real cars > (ie Healeys and Austin-Healeys) for a time. > > Hoo Roo > > Patrick Quinn > Sydney, Australia > > 1947 Healey Duncan Saloon > 1954 Austin-Healey 100 BN3/1 ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From 62bt7 at prodigy.net Thu Jul 31 22:40:49 2008 From: 62bt7 at prodigy.net (62bt7) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:40:49 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Services for Ron Phillips Message-ID: <05b401c8f390$c73e05b0$a535480c@kirkgrbymz8g9u> ----- Original Message ----- From: LeRae Phillips To: LeRae Phillips Cc: Tim Phillips Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:14 PM Subject: Services for Ron Phillips Ron passed away suddenly at home yesterday, Wednesday, July 30th. We will hold a viewing this Monday night (August 4th) from 5:00-7:00 pm. The service will be the following day, Tuesday, August 5th at 12:00 noon. Both events will be held at Fairhaven Memorial Park, 1702 Fairhaven Ave, Santa Ana, CA, 92705. Fairhaven's phone number is 714-633-1442. They are just south of the 22 Freeway and east of Grand Ave. Exit Grand avenue South, a very short distance, then left on Fairhaven Ave. About 5 blocks later you will see the memorial park on the right. We know we don't have a complete list of email addresses - you may inform others who would want to know. Thank you, LeRae and Timothy From rwil at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 31 22:51:40 2008 From: rwil at sbcglobal.net (Roland Wilhelmy) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:51:40 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Question In-Reply-To: <8CAC18AEF4F726C-CB4-2286@webmail-nc04.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CAC18AEF4F726C-CB4-2286@webmail-nc04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <7c5594hrapmrm9222tjp0fru4g4ss0t4of@4ax.com> The drums on our BN1, not driven since 1964, were worn past the point where they could be trued or turned. I bought used drums on eBay -- actually two full sets -- just because of my experience. I didn't think of having shoes with thicker linings made up. That would have worked well since the new shoes I got would barely fit inside the drums even after radiusing (and of course setting the adjusters to their minimum). -Roland BN1 #724 On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:13:26 -0400, you wrote: ::All, :: ::The shop that was working on my brakes told me that they had adjusted my brakes ( 4 wheel drum) out as far as they could, and that the reason the pedal won't come all the way to the top is that the drums are worn from 50 years of use (it's firm and almost all the way to the top). Is that possible? They said that drums are often good for only three sets of pads. If so, do you eventually have to put a lining in the drum as the drums are no longer made? I've never heard that drums could wear out. I thought the only way was if they were "turned". I know that in the old (!) days there were rivets on the pads which could cause damage. :: ::Thanks in advance, ::Phil From aon.912808691 at aon.at Thu Jul 31 23:22:46 2008 From: aon.912808691 at aon.at (Reinhart Rosner (aon)) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 07:22:46 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Austin Healey or Austin? In-Reply-To: <000001c8f2f2$fdeacc90$1c05447e@tm4> References: <000001c8f2f2$fdeacc90$1c05447e@tm4> Message-ID: Tadek, My 100 came directly after production to a local dealer in Austria and in the old papers it says about the company: Austin, England. And for the type they wrote Austin Healey 100. When I bought the car in 1999 I tried to change this, but at the registration they said: We do not have Austin Healey in our computer, lets leave it an Austin. Kind regards Reinhart Reinhart Rosner 1955 AH 100 BN1 Vienna  Austria -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces+aon.912808691=aon.at at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+aon.912808691=aon.at at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Tadeusz Malkiewicz Gesendet: Donnerstag, 31. Juli 2008 11:51 An: healeys at autox.team.net Betreff: [Healeys] Austin Healey or Austin? I have a small question - what/who is officially the "make" of the car: Austin Healey or Austin? Was there a company called Austin-Healey?.. The reason I am asking is I am trying to register the car at DMV in Poland - they are reluctant to accept the make of the car as "Austin-Healey". Rather, they say it's an Austin, but the type is Healey.. I thought at first they must be wrong, but then I looked at the VIN plate, and it says Austin.. Any thoughts? How are your cars registered? The Florida Title I have has: Make: AUHE Model: /empty/ Thanks for all help, Tadek Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys You are subscribed as aon.912808691 at aon.at http://www.team.net/archive From sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au Thu Jul 31 23:46:53 2008 From: sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au (sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:46:53 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Austin 0r Austin Healey Message-ID: <1217569613.4892a34d5b1de@webmail.hotkey.net.au> The following information may not interest all on the list. I think the name depends who you are dealing with. The F.I.A ( Federation of International Motorsport ) controlled and managed the sports car championship in 1965.This championship was officially called - 'THE MANUFACTURER'S CHAMPIONSHIP' and was a promotion opportunity for manufacturers to show the value of their products. Events were held at Sebring, LeMans, Targa Florio and a fifth race I can't remember. In our case the Make entered was Austin Healey. Most interestingly the entrant was Donald Healey Motor Company. The Healeys entered in this championship were fitted with chassis plates that identified the 3000 as 'HEALEY GT and manufacturer, Donald Healey Motor Company.The LeMans/Sebring Sprites of that time had similar chassis plates. YOUR CHOICE, but I would not argue with your government or you could end up as an unidentifiable kit car Joe