From linwoodrose at mac.com Thu Nov 1 04:50:44 2007 From: linwoodrose at mac.com (linwood rose) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 07:50:44 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Optima Battery Message-ID: <93EE13C5-D452-45BC-8B62-3ADA58D0550D@mac.com> Which model Optima Battery is recommended for a BT7? Lin 1960 BT7 in restoration 1959 Bugeye From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu Nov 1 05:33:03 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 07:33:03 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] SOS '07 Foundervision Message-ID: <005201c81c83$5b186cc0$11494640$@com> Hey y'all, Once again, we'll broadcast the SOS event (Nov. 23 & 24) via Yahoo Messenger. That's video, and audio, with real time ability to ask questions of the participants from viewers around the world. If you don't already have one, get your Yahoo ID and download Yahoo Messenger from http://messenger.yahoo.com/. Add to your friends list. Pay attention if you're installing this for the first time, and deselect anything that makes Yahoo as your home page or your search engine (unless of course you prefer it that way). I'll have the Floundervision camera online periodically over the next few weeks to test your connections, camera placements, and 2 way audio. WST Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu Nov 1 05:34:30 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 07:34:30 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] SOS '07 couch reservations Message-ID: <005801c81c83$8ecd6ca0$ac6845e0$@com> Hey y'all, I'm trying to get a handle on how many of you will need accommodations. Some have already made hotel reservations. We've got some extra bedroom space in the house, a couple of couches in the heated shop, a camper that can accommodate a few, and our summer place 30 minutes away that accommodate 6. There's always floor space for those that can stand it, and a large parking lot for anyone bringing their own motorhome or camper. Please confirm if you're planning on staying with us. Thanks. WST Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From Jnhorn at aol.com Thu Nov 1 06:00:43 2007 From: Jnhorn at aol.com (Jnhorn at aol.com) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 09:00:43 EDT Subject: [Healeys] Optima Battery Message-ID: I'm not a big fan of Optima batterys. I've had several and once it loses its charge its never the same, i.e it won't hold a charge properly again. I've had in it a BJ8 and an Alfa GTV. It does look real nice however. jon einhorn BJ8 (2) Bj7 100-6 ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From msalter at precisionsportscar.com Thu Nov 1 06:33:01 2007 From: msalter at precisionsportscar.com (Michael Salter) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 09:33:01 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BN2 bellhousing In-Reply-To: <005801c81c83$8ecd6ca0$ac6845e0$@com> Message-ID: <20071101143217.B270E187A56@autox.team.net> If anyone out there has a BN2 bellhousing that they would be interested in selling could they contact me..Many thanks. Michael Salter 100S (1955) 3000 Mk111(1965) 100 (1953) AHX12 (1953) Bugeye (1961) http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/ From rich_holman at yahoo.com Thu Nov 1 06:47:41 2007 From: rich_holman at yahoo.com (Rich Holman) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 06:47:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] Optima Battery In-Reply-To: <93EE13C5-D452-45BC-8B62-3ADA58D0550D@mac.com> Message-ID: <170497.9074.qm@web56804.mail.re3.yahoo.com> I purchased the 251Red in April 2005. I have been more than satisfied with it's performance. I also purchased a float charger at the same time so the battery is always fully charged. After a two week vacation with the charger disconnected it only takes a couple of minutes for it to reach full charge again. I'll buy another when it's time Rich 57 BN4 Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Thu Nov 1 08:01:52 2007 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 08:01:52 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Optima Battery In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3023416D-B2D4-4C11-8560-B5D8C165BA04@sbcglobal.net> If a Optima battery looses its charge you can not charge it like a standard acid battery. They must be put on a slow charger for 48 hours to bring them up to a full charge. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Nov 1, 2007, at 6:00 AM, Jnhorn at aol.com wrote: > I'm not a big fan of Optima batterys. I've had several and once it > loses its > charge its never the same, i.e it won't hold a charge properly > again. I've had > in it a BJ8 and an Alfa GTV. It does look real nice however. > jon einhorn > BJ8 (2) > Bj7 > 100-6 From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Thu Nov 1 08:02:45 2007 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 08:02:45 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BN2 bellhousing In-Reply-To: <20071101143217.B270E187A56@autox.team.net> References: <20071101143217.B270E187A56@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <8BDD50E1-8A80-423A-A356-7455A334C426@sbcglobal.net> Micheal we have a new one in stock David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Nov 1, 2007, at 6:33 AM, Michael Salter wrote: > If anyone out there has a BN2 bellhousing that they would be > interested in > selling could they contact me..Many thanks. > > Michael Salter > 100S (1955) > 3000 Mk111(1965) > 100 (1953) > AHX12 (1953) > Bugeye (1961) From RonFineEsq at earthlink.net Thu Nov 1 08:36:30 2007 From: RonFineEsq at earthlink.net (Ron Fine) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 08:36:30 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Optima Battery References: Message-ID: <003901c81c9c$fa7003a0$6501a8c0@XPS400> I think Optima batteries are the best batteries I have ever owned. When I purchased my BN7 in 2003 it had an Optima battery which I guess was several years old. It is still holding a charge today and through the restoration of 18 months when it sat on a shelf. Now, when I haven't driven my Healey for a few months I hook up a small charger just to bring it back up to a full charge. For these cars we don't drive every day I wouldn't buy any other battery. Ron Fine ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 6:00 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Optima Battery > I'm not a big fan of Optima batterys. I've had several and once it loses > its > charge its never the same, i.e it won't hold a charge properly again. I've > had > in it a BJ8 and an Alfa GTV. It does look real nice however. > jon einhorn > BJ8 (2) > Bj7 > 100-6 From jnhorn at aol.com Thu Nov 1 09:12:26 2007 From: jnhorn at aol.com (JONATHAN EINHORN) Date: 1 Nov 2007 16:12:26 GMT Subject: [Healeys] Optima Battery Message-ID: Thanks Dave. Apparently the parts distributor where I bought them was ignorant of this. Jon Einhorn BJ8(2) BJ7 100-6 -----Original Message----- From: "David Nock" To: "Jnhorn at aol.com" Cc: "linwoodrose at mac.com" ; "healeys at autox.team.net" Sent: 11/1/2007 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Optima Battery If a Optima battery looses its charge you can not charge it like a standard acid battery. They must be put on a slow charger for 48 hours to bring them up to a full charge. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . From mkgoodman at worldnet.att.net Thu Nov 1 09:46:15 2007 From: mkgoodman at worldnet.att.net (Mark Goodman) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 12:46:15 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Car will not start - Bringing it back from the dead Message-ID: <003601c81ca6$b8603200$29209600$@att.net> I would be willing to bet that you have a rotor that is shorting out. Take the distributor cap off, take the wire from the coil and put the end near the rotor. Turn the engine over with the ignition on and see if the spark is conducts thru the rotor. I have been towed twice because of a shorted rotor. I did find a good replacement at NAPA and I have 3 tested spares in the car at all times. Mark Goodman 66 BJ8 35503 From simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk Thu Nov 1 10:30:08 2007 From: simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk (Simon Lachlan) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 17:30:08 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Car will not start - Bringing it back from the dead In-Reply-To: <003601c81ca6$b8603200$29209600$@att.net> References: <003601c81ca6$b8603200$29209600$@att.net> Message-ID: <001701c81cac$db213b80$0200a8c0@simonalexa> Yes, but was the distributor OK when the car was put away all those years ago? If the rotor was OK then it's probably OK now. If the distributor has been "looked at", the points may be all to hell. The first time I did my points, I made a complete horlicks of it. Got a spark, but nothing that would fire up a Healey. Gap was way too big. Worth a look? Simon. -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+simon.lachlan=homecall.co.uk at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+simon.lachlan=homecall.co.uk at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark Goodman Sent: 01 November 2007 16:46 To: RAWDAWGS at aol.com Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Car will not start - Bringing it back from the dead I would be willing to bet that you have a rotor that is shorting out. Take the distributor cap off, take the wire from the coil and put the end near the rotor. Turn the engine over with the ignition on and see if the spark is conducts thru the rotor. I have been towed twice because of a shorted rotor. I did find a good replacement at NAPA and I have 3 tested spares in the car at all times. Mark Goodman 66 BJ8 35503 _______________________________________________ simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From peter at easterton.com Thu Nov 1 10:56:48 2007 From: peter at easterton.com (Peter Hunt) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 17:56:48 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] RM Auction - no Healeys Message-ID: <012201c81cb0$934edca0$0301a8c0@oemcomputer> Sold today in London by RM Auctions www.rmauctions.com some very expensive motors. The top price was GBP 3,967,125 (Three Million Nine Hundred and Sixty Seven Thousand One Hundred and Twenty Five Pounds) for a 1937 Mercedes 540 K Special Roadster owned by Bernie Ecclestone - Formula 1 boss. Apparently he put up about 20 cars for sale but has another 300, mainly racing cars, stored away somewhere. One could purchase quite a few Healeys/Austin Healeys for that amount of money. Peter Hunt Scotland ' 62 BT7 ' 63 BJ7 From alan at andysnet.net Thu Nov 1 12:12:56 2007 From: alan at andysnet.net (Alan Schultz) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:12:56 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] RM Auction - no Healeys In-Reply-To: <012201c81cb0$934edca0$0301a8c0@oemcomputer> References: <012201c81cb0$934edca0$0301a8c0@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <472A2538.5020309@andysnet.net> I just checked the exchange rate and the conversion to US Dollars is $8,264,833!! Makes in worth more than any US car ever. A Schultz 67HBJ8 51Jag MKVII Peter Hunt wrote: > Sold today in London by RM Auctions www.rmauctions.com some very expensive > motors. The top price was GBP 3,967,125 > (Three Million Nine Hundred and Sixty Seven Thousand One Hundred and Twenty > Five Pounds) for a 1937 Mercedes 540 K Special Roadster owned by Bernie > Ecclestone - Formula 1 boss. > > Apparently he put up about 20 cars for sale but has another 300, mainly racing > cars, stored away somewhere. > > One could purchase quite a few Healeys/Austin Healeys for that amount of > money. From coll44 at msn.com Thu Nov 1 15:57:56 2007 From: coll44 at msn.com (TERRY COLL) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 17:57:56 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Optima Battery Message-ID: Given the occasional use of my sports cars over the last 20 years, I have used nothing but deep cycle marine batteries and have had no problems. Terry Coll '64 BJ8 ----- Original Message ----- From: David Nock Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 10:02 AM To: Jnhorn at aol.com Cc: linwoodrose at mac.com; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Optima Battery If a Optima battery looses its charge you can not charge it like a standard acid battery. They must be put on a slow charger for 48 hours to bring them up to a full charge. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com On Nov 1, 2007, at 6:00 AM, Jnhorn at aol.com wrote: > I'm not a big fan of Optima batterys. I've had several and once it > loses its > charge its never the same, i.e it won't hold a charge properly > again. I've had > in it a BJ8 and an Alfa GTV. It does look real nice however. > jon einhorn > BJ8 (2) > Bj7 > 100-6 _______________________________________________ coll44 at msn.com Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From ricksnover at earthlink.net Thu Nov 1 16:00:24 2007 From: ricksnover at earthlink.net (Rick Snover) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 16:00:24 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] So CA Fires & AH Club Message-ID: <6.2.2.1.2.20071101160009.02d496f0@popd.ix.netcom.com> At 08:57 PM 10/27/2007, Gerry Kwiat wrote: >...past [AHCSD] President Bob Farnsworth & wife Sue, lived on Starvation >Mountain in Ramona, and did lose their home, totally burned to the ground >including their 3 Healeys. They were able to get out just in time with >their lives and pets, no notice, embers burning around them as they fled. Several of us from the club joined Bob & Sue at their home site yesterday for a "Sift & Sort" tech session, to see if we could help them find any treasures among the ruins. I was astonished at how completely the house had burned... hardly any wood left at all, leaving the stucco walls to collapse inward atop everything else (including the already collapsed tile roof). Bob & Sue seemed to be in fair spirits, considering. I'm no expert, but there didn't appear to be much left of their three 100s in the garage that was going to be salvageable. We did manage to dig out a quite a few hand tools, many of which had belonged to Bob's father, a carpenter, and I'm told should clean-up reasonably well. Small comfort probably, but maybe better than nothing. I've posted a copy on our web site of a few pictures from my cell phone. The quality's not very good, and I have a hard time looking at them myself, but if you're interested see http://www.sdhealey.org/SiftAndSort.html Rick -- Rick Snover, San Diego, CA, USA Vice President (Membership), Newsletter Editor (Interim) & Web Master Austin-Healey Club of San Diego 1964 Sprite Mk III driver 1959 Speedwell Sprite vintage racer (VARA ) 1961 3000 Mk II "Tri-Carb" (being restored) and 1955 100 (pieces in storage) From linwoodrose at mac.com Thu Nov 1 16:44:35 2007 From: linwoodrose at mac.com (linwood rose) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 19:44:35 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Optima Battery Message-ID: Thanks to everyone who responded on the Optima battery question. Of course, all I asked for was a model number and I think only one person responded with the info I was requesting while a number of people expressed the pros/cons of the selection! I love this list. Thanks to all. I purchased model number OPT8002-002 series 34. Lin 1960 BT7 in restoration 1959 Bugeye From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu Nov 1 05:06:47 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 07:06:47 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] SOS '07 Floundervision Message-ID: <004101c81c7f$b10ef170$132cd450$@com> Hey y'all, Once again, we'll broadcast the SOS event (Nov. 23 & 24) via Yahoo Messenger. That's video, and audio, with real time ability to ask questions of the participants from viewers around the world. If you don't already have one, get your Yahoo ID and download Yahoo Messenger from http://messenger.yahoo.com/. Add to your friends list. Pay attention if you're installing this for the first time, and deselect anything that makes Yahoo as your home page or your search engine (unless of course you prefer it that way). I'll have the Floundervision camera online periodically over the next few weeks to test your connections, camera placements, and 2 way audio. WST Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu Nov 1 05:13:04 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 07:13:04 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] SOS '07 couch reservations Message-ID: <004c01c81c80$918da570$b4a8f050$@com> Hey y'all, I'm trying to get a handle on how many of you will need accommodations. Some have already made hotel reservations. We've got some extra bedroom space in the house, a couple of couches in the heated shop, a camper that can accommodate a few, and our summer place 30 minutes away that accommodate 6. There's always floor space for those that can stand it, and a large parking lot for anyone bringing their own motorhome or camper. Please confirm if you're planning on staying with us. Thanks. WST Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From mark at bradakis.com Thu Nov 1 19:16:11 2007 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J. Bradakis) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:16:11 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] List message limits Message-ID: <472A886B.9060709@bradakis.com> Here's someting I recently sent to another Team.Net list. It would be nice if folks paid attention to it. mjb. ----- >First one bounced--too big. Hey Mark, isn't 4K a bit too restrictive? Well, yes and no, sort of. It is an arbitrary limit I just picked. On some of the other big lists, though, it is only 3K. Basically the problem lies in the default behavior of many popular email clients in use today. When people respond to a message, the *entire* message is added to the end of the response. Unlike this message, which has only one pertinent line included, at the beginning, where it is clear to see the issue under discussion. So what happens is that as people continue discussion on a topic, the messages keep getting longer and longer and longer and longer. There may be only two or three lines still pertinent to the discussion or necessary for context, but all the useless verbiage keeps getting dragged along for the ride. Last time I actually ran some statistical programs on the Team.Net lists, about 70 - 80 percent of the character count of list messages was text that was included for no real reason at all. That's about the same as buying a 6 pack of your favorite beverage, and getting one or two that are the actual fresh, new beverage, the rest are, uh, recycled product. All this extra, useless text does is slow down the Team.Net network line, transmitting bits that it doesn't need to transmit. It slows down the list archiving processes, as they have to go over the same text again and again. 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I'm no expert, but there didn't appear to be much left of their three 100s in the garage that was going to be salvageable. We did manage to dig out a quite a few hand tools, many of which had belonged to Bob's father, a carpenter, and I'm told should clean-up reasonably well. Small comfort probably, but maybe better than nothing. I've posted a copy on our web site of a few pictures from my cell phone. The quality's not very good, and I have a hard time looking at them myself, but if you're interested see http://www.sdhealey.org/SiftAndSort.html Rick -- Rick Snover, San Diego, CA, USA Vice President (Membership), Newsletter Editor (Interim) & Web Master Austin-Healey Club of San Diego 1964 Sprite Mk III driver 1959 Speedwell Sprite vintage racer (VARA ) 1961 3000 Mk II "Tri-Carb" (being restored) and 1955 100 (pieces in storage) From legal_bill at verizon.net Thu Nov 1 20:27:05 2007 From: legal_bill at verizon.net (legal_bill at verizon.net) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 22:27:05 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Healeys] List message limits Message-ID: <12593475.3719071193974025923.JavaMail.root@vms064.mailsrvcs.net> From: "Mark J. Bradakis" Date: 2007/11/01 Thu PM 09:16:11 CDT To: healeys at autox.team.net Hey, how about converting the list to a message board? Subject: [Healeys] List message limits Here's someting I recently sent to another Team.Net list. It would be nice if folks paid attention to it. mjb. ----- Bill Boston area '65 BJ8 '02 S2000 '06 330i From rwil at sbcglobal.net Thu Nov 1 20:43:54 2007 From: rwil at sbcglobal.net (Roland Wilhelmy) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:43:54 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] List message limits In-Reply-To: <12593475.3719071193974025923.JavaMail.root@vms064.mailsrvcs.net> References: <12593475.3719071193974025923.JavaMail.root@vms064.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: How about leaving the list like it is? -Roland On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 22:27:05 -0500 (CDT), legal bill wrote wrote: ::Hey, how about converting the list to a message board? From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Fri Nov 2 00:39:34 2007 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 18:39:34 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] An Indulgence Please Message-ID: <003001c81d23$84c91290$4001a8c0@ibm45xm8v45fmw> G'day This has nothing to do with Healeys or Austin-Healeys but could I please crave your collective indulgence please. However I will report that this morning I had a semi-retired coach builder visit with a view of putting together the body of the Healey Duncan. My 8 years of learning how to panel beat and spray paint makes me realise that I am not capable of such a task. Anyway I have Dragon Naturally Speaking V9.5 and I'm trying to convert a digital recording to text. I believe it can be done but I'm not having much success. I save the recording to a Wave file and can easily play it back on my lap top but when I try to convert it, the thingy tells me that it can't do it because the file isn't a 16bit Mono Wave File. Okay I can live with it not being the correct file but how do I convert a normal Wave file to a 16bit Mono Wave File? Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia From healey.nut at gmail.com Fri Nov 2 01:41:20 2007 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 16:41:20 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] An Indulgence Please In-Reply-To: <003001c81d23$84c91290$4001a8c0@ibm45xm8v45fmw> References: <003001c81d23$84c91290$4001a8c0@ibm45xm8v45fmw> Message-ID: Patrick - Have a gander at this: http://www.audacityteam.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=783&p=2618 Cheers, Alan On 11/2/07, Patrick and Caroline Quinn wrote: > G'day > > > > This has nothing to do with Healeys or Austin-Healeys but could I please > crave your collective indulgence please. However I will report that this > morning I had a semi-retired coach builder visit with a view of putting > together the body of the Healey Duncan. My 8 years of learning how to panel > beat and spray paint makes me realise that I am not capable of such a task. > > > > Anyway I have Dragon Naturally Speaking V9.5 and I'm trying to convert a > digital recording to text. I believe it can be done but I'm not having much > success. > > > > I save the recording to a Wave file and can easily play it back on my lap > top but when I try to convert it, the thingy tells me that it can't do it > because the file isn't a 16bit Mono Wave File. > > > > Okay I can live with it not being the correct file but how do I convert a > normal Wave file to a 16bit Mono Wave File? > > > > Hoo Roo > > > > Patrick Quinn > > Sydney, Australia > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > -- Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 From edwjkeuer at comcast.net Fri Nov 2 04:00:44 2007 From: edwjkeuer at comcast.net (Edward Keuer) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 06:00:44 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Window Mechanism Message-ID: <067064A0-B525-4C3C-B3F1-B23CE1A38967@comcast.net> Hello all, I send out a huge "thank-you" to everyone who helped me figure out my driver's side regulator mechanism. My wounds have healed (due to being struck by the sprung arm when I drilled thru the rivets on the gear housing) and my window is working just fine. I received some very specific advice and a number of photos, all of which were extremely helpful. This list is a blessing! Edw. J. Keuer Wheaton, IL '66 BJ8 From gregwilkinson at roadrunner.com Fri Nov 2 05:38:20 2007 From: gregwilkinson at roadrunner.com (Greg Wilkinson) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 05:38:20 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] An Indulgence Please In-Reply-To: <003001c81d23$84c91290$4001a8c0@ibm45xm8v45fmw> Message-ID: Hi Patrick, Most MP3 player software can do audio conversions. Some are a free download. If you have a PC, I would recommend WinAmp. You could also get iTunes, but I'm not a big fan of that program, it installs more software than I like. If the file isn't too huge for my mailbox, you could email it to me and I can convert it for you, I promise not to divulge any trade secrets. ;~) Cheers, Greg From gregwilkinson at roadrunner.com Fri Nov 2 05:46:14 2007 From: gregwilkinson at roadrunner.com (Greg Wilkinson) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 05:46:14 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] List message limits In-Reply-To: Message-ID: There is one, been there for several years now. Not many people post to it though. http://www.team.net/the-local/tiki-index.php On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 22:27:05 -0500 (CDT), legal bill wrote wrote: ::Hey, how about converting the list to a message board? From legal_bill at verizon.net Fri Nov 2 06:35:32 2007 From: legal_bill at verizon.net (legal_bill at verizon.net) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 07:35:32 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Healeys] List message limits Message-ID: <2054290.12601131194010532721.JavaMail.root@vms171.mailsrvcs.net> Sure, that's fine. If you just want to limit the community that talks about Healeys everyday, and shares their wide base of knowlege with a small group, keep it as it is. But if you are really want to increase the interest in Healeys to a broader group, and most important of all, to the next generation, then this group should really be on its own, dedicated message board. Think of the Future 50 program that we read about in Healey Marque. Most of the young people participate in on-line communities where they can start threads that everyone can participate in. They are easy to see and you can quickly add your comment and scroll throughthe comments on one subject. You can have a technical discussion right next to a social discussion. The message board format creates real world communities too. People arrange meets at the drop of a hat. They can discus the meet in nearly real time on line and not have to wait for news letter, etc. I'm convinced the entire Healey community is missing out on an opportunity by not having its own dedicated message board. I belong to a couple of others, and the real world community that is created as a result of the message board community is far stronger and more active because of the message board format. From: Roland Wilhelmy Date: 2007/11/01 Thu PM 09:43:54 CST To: legal_bill at verizon.net Cc: "Mark J. Bradakis" , healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] List message limits How about leaving the list like it is? -Roland On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 22:27:05 -0500 (CDT), legal bill wrote wrote: ::Hey, how about converting the list to a message board? Bill Boston area '65 BJ8 '02 S2000 '06 330i From glemon at neb.rr.com Fri Nov 2 06:37:25 2007 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 08:37:25 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] List message limits References: <12593475.3719071193974025923.JavaMail.root@vms064.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <001a01c81d55$82017b60$6401a8c0@toshibauser> There is a fairly active (although in my opinion not as active as our list) Healey message board at British Car Forum. Many of the same people list and lurk there as here. For what it is worth I would prefer the list be left as is, and those who want a message board or forum can move over to that forum or visit both, as I do. Greg Lemon 54 BN1 From palmbeachderm at yahoo.com Fri Nov 2 06:49:34 2007 From: palmbeachderm at yahoo.com (steven rosenberg md) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 06:49:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] List message limits In-Reply-To: <2054290.12601131194010532721.JavaMail.root@vms171.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <957397.71953.qm@web53708.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I'm new to this (24 hours) but agree that rather than getting numerous emails that may be irrelevant today but helpful tomorrow, it would be better to have a site with forums based on specific topics. We can then search those topics and respond more conveniently. steve rosenberg legal_bill at verizon.net wrote: Sure, that's fine. If you just want to limit the community that talks about Healeys everyday, and shares their wide base of knowlege with a small group, keep it as it is. But if you are really want to increase the interest in Healeys to a broader group, and most important of all, to the next generation, then this group should really be on its own, dedicated message board. Think of the Future 50 program that we read about in Healey Marque. Most of the young people participate in on-line communities where they can start threads that everyone can participate in. They are easy to see and you can quickly add your comment and scroll throughthe comments on one subject. You can have a technical discussion right next to a social discussion. The message board format creates real world communities too. People arrange meets at the drop of a hat. They can discus the meet in nearly real time on line and not have to wait for news letter, etc. I'm convinced the entire Healey community is missing out on an opportunity by not having its own dedicated message board. I belong to a couple of others, and the real world community that is created as a result of the message board community is far stronger and more active because of the message board format. From: Roland Wilhelmy Date: 2007/11/01 Thu PM 09:43:54 CST To: legal_bill at verizon.net Cc: "Mark J. Bradakis" , healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] List message limits How about leaving the list like it is? -Roland On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 22:27:05 -0500 (CDT), legal bill wrote wrote: ::Hey, how about converting the list to a message board? Bill Boston area '65 BJ8 '02 S2000 '06 330i Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Because e-mail can be altered electronically, the integrity of this communication cannot be guaranteed. From ahbn6 at optonline.net Fri Nov 2 07:18:21 2007 From: ahbn6 at optonline.net (John Sims) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 10:18:21 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] List message limits In-Reply-To: <957397.71953.qm@web53708.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <2054290.12601131194010532721.JavaMail.root@vms171.mailsrvcs.net> <957397.71953.qm@web53708.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00b201c81d5b$399eb170$6500a8c0@simsoffice> We have that now. It is called the List Archives. I like the concept of the list in which emails pop up on my computer all day long and I can pick and choose which are of interest to me. I do not like searching through forums on the odd chance that someone has experienced the same problem as I. I like the immediacy of the list in which I can ask a question and have emails come in automatically during the day with no effort on my part. In short, keep the list as it is and migrate to one of the forums if you wish. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of steven rosenberg md Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 9:50 AM To: legal_bill at verizon.net; Roland Wilhelmy Cc: healeys at autox.team.net; Mark J. Bradakis Subject: Re: [Healeys] List message limits I'm new to this (24 hours) but agree that rather than getting numerous emails that may be irrelevant today but helpful tomorrow, it would be better to have a site with forums based on specific topics. We can then search those topics and respond more conveniently. steve rosenberg From lists at brits-n-pieces.com Fri Nov 2 07:23:17 2007 From: lists at brits-n-pieces.com (Brits'n'Pieces (Eric Frenken)) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 15:23:17 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] List message limits In-Reply-To: <00b201c81d5b$399eb170$6500a8c0@simsoffice> References: <2054290.12601131194010532721.JavaMail.root@vms171.mailsrvcs.net> <957397.71953.qm@web53708.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <00b201c81d5b$399eb170$6500a8c0@simsoffice> Message-ID: <006101c81d5b$e9d7e9d0$bd87bd70$@com> If my vote counts (if any but Mark's count), I'd rather keep the list format as it is. Eric Germany John Sims wrote: We have that now. It is called the List Archives. I like the concept of the list in which emails pop up on my computer all day long and I can pick and choose which are of interest to me. I do not like searching through forums on the odd chance that someone has experienced the same problem as I. I like the immediacy of the list in which I can ask a question and have emails come in automatically during the day with no effort on my part. In short, keep the list as it is and migrate to one of the forums if you wish. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ www.healey6.com From bluechipracing at snet.net Fri Nov 2 07:40:36 2007 From: bluechipracing at snet.net (bluechip) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 10:40:36 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] List message limits References: <2054290.12601131194010532721.JavaMail.root@vms171.mailsrvcs.net><957397.71953.qm@web53708.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <00b201c81d5b$399eb170$6500a8c0@simsoffice> Message-ID: <002a01c81d5e$554d26b0$1f9bfea9@dell> WHAT HE SAID! Jim Smith ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Sims" > We have that now. It is called the List Archives. I like the concept of > the > list in which emails pop up on my computer all day long and I can pick and > choose which are of interest to me. I do not like searching through forums > on the odd chance that someone has experienced the same problem as I. > > I like the immediacy of the list in which I can ask a question and have > emails come in automatically during the day with no effort on my part. > > > In short, keep the list as it is and migrate to one of the forums if you > wish. > > John Sims, BN6 > Aberdeen, NJ From fredwescoe at windstream.net Fri Nov 2 07:47:51 2007 From: fredwescoe at windstream.net (Fred Wescoe) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 10:47:51 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] List message limits References: <2054290.12601131194010532721.JavaMail.root@vms171.mailsrvcs.net><957397.71953.qm@web53708.mail.re2.yahoo.com><00b201c81d5b$399eb170$6500a8c0@simsoffice> <002a01c81d5e$554d26b0$1f9bfea9@dell> Message-ID: <006c01c81d5f$58af20f0$6500a8c0@D10F7N31> I agree with this. The list is fine the way it is. Fred 63 BJ 7 ----- Original Message ----- From: "bluechip" To: Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] List message limits > WHAT HE SAID! > > Jim Smith > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Sims" > >> We have that now. It is called the List Archives. I like the concept of >> the >> list in which emails pop up on my computer all day long and I can pick >> and >> choose which are of interest to me. I do not like searching through >> forums >> on the odd chance that someone has experienced the same problem as I. >> >> I like the immediacy of the list in which I can ask a question and have >> emails come in automatically during the day with no effort on my part. >> >> >> In short, keep the list as it is and migrate to one of the forums if you >> wish. >> >> John Sims, BN6 >> Aberdeen, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From alanb at nfahc.co.uk Fri Nov 2 08:06:03 2007 From: alanb at nfahc.co.uk (Alan) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 15:06:03 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] List message limits In-Reply-To: <00b201c81d5b$399eb170$6500a8c0@simsoffice> References: <2054290.12601131194010532721.JavaMail.root@vms171.mailsrvcs.net><957397.71953.qm@web53708.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <00b201c81d5b$399eb170$6500a8c0@simsoffice> Message-ID: <004601c81d61$e437e240$6401a8c0@Dell> Team..... FWIW - the internet is all things to everyone. I participate in the list because the format and shared immediacy suits me. I feel that I am part of a support group, rather than a detached observer. The forum approach doesn't suit me so I rarely (if ever) check them out. The list will be kept as it is (I hope) for as long as we participate and MJB (praise and honours) keeps it alive. _______________________________________________ (______________ Alan Bromfield _______________) (______ \____1957-BN4 ___/ _______) (_________________________) http://www.nfahc.co.uk http://www.healey-weekend.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+alanb=nfahc.co.uk at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+alanb=nfahc.co.uk at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Sims Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 2:18 PM To: 'steven rosenberg md'; legal_bill at verizon.net; 'Roland Wilhelmy' Cc: healeys at autox.team.net; 'Mark J. Bradakis' Subject: Re: [Healeys] List message limits We have that now. It is called the List Archives. I like the concept of the list in which emails pop up on my computer all day long and I can pick and choose which are of interest to me. I do not like searching through forums on the odd chance that someone has experienced the same problem as I. I like the immediacy of the list in which I can ask a question and have emails come in automatically during the day with no effort on my part. In short, keep the list as it is and migrate to one of the forums if you wish. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ www.healey6.com From price at advocateadvisors.com Fri Nov 2 08:16:22 2007 From: price at advocateadvisors.com (R. Price Lindsay) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 10:16:22 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] [SPAM] - Re: List message limits - Email found in subject References: <2054290.12601131194010532721.JavaMail.root@vms171.mailsrvcs.net><957397.71953.qm@web53708.mail.re2.yahoo.com><00b201c81d5b$399eb170$6500a8c0@simsoffice> <004601c81d61$e437e240$6401a8c0@Dell> Message-ID: <8980C46D80E81640B5A712F2DE6E00EE136815@advfs2.advocateadvisors.com> I couldn't agree more!! Price Lindsay '67 BJ8 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+price=advocateadvisors.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+price=advocateadvisors.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Alan Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 10:06 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Cc: 'Mark J. Bradakis' Subject: [SPAM] - Re: [Healeys] List message limits - Email found in subject Team..... FWIW - the internet is all things to everyone. I participate in the list because the format and shared immediacy suits me. I feel that I am part of a support group, rather than a detached observer. The forum approach doesn't suit me so I rarely (if ever) check them out. The list will be kept as it is (I hope) for as long as we participate and MJB (praise and honours) keeps it alive. _______________________________________________ (______________ Alan Bromfield _______________) (______ \____1957-BN4 ___/ _______) (_________________________) http://www.nfahc.co.uk http://www.healey-weekend.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+alanb=nfahc.co.uk at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+alanb=nfahc.co.uk at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Sims Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 2:18 PM To: 'steven rosenberg md'; legal_bill at verizon.net; 'Roland Wilhelmy' Cc: healeys at autox.team.net; 'Mark J. Bradakis' Subject: Re: [Healeys] List message limits We have that now. It is called the List Archives. I like the concept of the list in which emails pop up on my computer all day long and I can pick and choose which are of interest to me. I do not like searching through forums on the odd chance that someone has experienced the same problem as I. I like the immediacy of the list in which I can ask a question and have emails come in automatically during the day with no effort on my part. In short, keep the list as it is and migrate to one of the forums if you wish. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ www.healey6.com Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From wsthompson at thicko.com Fri Nov 2 08:56:09 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 10:56:09 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] SOS '07 what to wear, what towear? Message-ID: <001b01c81d68$e4ab8770$ae029650$@com> Hey Y'all, Well, if you're planning on working, wear something you don't mind getting grubby. But, also bring a change of clothes, as we'll likely be going out for dinner Friday night. Also, remember, you need not dive into the work if you'd rather not. you can just watch. We always need help with moderating the Yahoo chatroom and Floundervision webcast. We can use help with the food we serve up both days. You can dive in, step back, or just come to talk and learn. Like Team Thicko.. SOS is an "inclusive", not an "exclusive" event. Spouses and children are welcome too. You might consider bringing safety glasses if you have them. Also, as in years past, if you remember, bring a roll of paper tolls (or 12) and a can of brake clean. WST Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From peter at nosimport.com Fri Nov 2 09:04:48 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 11:04:48 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] SOS '07 what to wear, what towear? In-Reply-To: <001b01c81d68$e4ab8770$ae029650$@com> References: <001b01c81d68$e4ab8770$ae029650$@com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071102110344.038d4a40@nosimport.com> At 10:56 AM 11/2/2007, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: >Hey Y'all, > > > >Well, if you're planning on working, wear something you don't mind getting >grubby. But, also bring a change of clothes, as we'll likely be going out >for dinner Friday night. Hey..... if we're gonna be working on the Dung Bug, I'm bringing Hazmat suit and respirator! PPP From wsthompson at thicko.com Fri Nov 2 09:08:56 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 11:08:56 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] SOS '07 what to wear, what towear? In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20071102110344.038d4a40@nosimport.com> References: <001b01c81d68$e4ab8770$ae029650$@com> <7.0.1.0.2.20071102110344.038d4a40@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <002701c81d6a$ae5257b0$0af70710$@com> Hey, I've been shoveling and power washing raccoon sh*t for weeks... those cars are damn near "minty fresh" now. We'll see how the weather holds... as I prefer to do any serious blue wrench (torch) work outside. WST "Hey..... if we're gonna be working on the Dung Bug, I'm bringing Hazmat suit and respirator! PPP" From rapoague at comcast.net Fri Nov 2 09:49:06 2007 From: rapoague at comcast.net (Bob Poague) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 09:49:06 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] List message limits References: <472A886B.9060709@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <003501c81d70$4b366da0$393c1218@D8400> I vote to keep the List the way it is. Bob BJ7 From edriver at sasktel.net Fri Nov 2 10:00:57 2007 From: edriver at sasktel.net (E.A. Driver) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 11:00:57 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] List message limits In-Reply-To: <004601c81d61$e437e240$6401a8c0@Dell> References: <2054290.12601131194010532721.JavaMail.root@vms171.mailsrvcs.net> <957397.71953.qm@web53708.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <00b201c81d5b$399eb170$6500a8c0@simsoffice> <004601c81d61$e437e240$6401a8c0@Dell> Message-ID: <472B57C9.3010009@sasktel.net> Hello Alan You are right on, I couldn't have said it better. I think those that need super interactive sites such as forums or web sites are bored, or in need of an ego boost, or easily buy into in short term trends of the day. This List, it's contributors have provide for this Healey owner a phenomenal amount of information. I have my own archive from the List as do several others on this List; it provides answers to many questions I have and I have shared the stored posts in it with others. And there is the List Archive. Keep the List as is as John, Alan , Greg and others have recommend. For those that are not satisfied do as John suggests migrate to a forum. Kind regards Ed Saskatoon, Saskatchewan '53 BN1 (under restoration), '65 BJ8, '89 Morgan 4/4 Alan wrote: > Team..... > FWIW - the internet is all things to everyone. I participate in the list > because the format and shared immediacy suits me. I feel that I am part of a > support group, rather than a detached observer. The forum approach doesn't > suit me so I rarely (if ever) check them out. > > The list will be kept as it is (I hope) for as long as we participate and > MJB (praise and honours) keeps it alive. > _______________________________________________ > (______________ Alan Bromfield _______________) > (______ \____1957-BN4 ___/ _______) > (_________________________) > http://www.nfahc.co.uk > Subject: Re: [Healeys] List message limits > > We have that now. It is called the List Archives. I like the concept of the > list in which emails pop up on my computer all day long and I can pick and > choose which are of interest to me. I do not like searching through forums > on the odd chance that someone has experienced the same problem as I. > > I like the immediacy of the list in which I can ask a question and have > emails come in automatically during the day with no effort on my part. > > > In short, keep the list as it is and migrate to one of the forums if you > wish. > > John Sims, BN6 > Aberdeen, NJ > > www.healey6.com From palmbeachderm at yahoo.com Fri Nov 2 10:50:26 2007 From: palmbeachderm at yahoo.com (steven rosenberg md) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 10:50:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Healeys] List message limits In-Reply-To: <472B57C9.3010009@sasktel.net> Message-ID: <363963.40220.qm@web53704.mail.re2.yahoo.com> how do i access the sites archives? that would be extremely helpful for me. "E.A. Driver" wrote: Hello Alan You are right on, I couldn't have said it better. I think those that need super interactive sites such as forums or web sites are bored, or in need of an ego boost, or easily buy into in short term trends of the day. This List, it's contributors have provide for this Healey owner a phenomenal amount of information. I have my own archive from the List as do several others on this List; it provides answers to many questions I have and I have shared the stored posts in it with others. And there is the List Archive. Keep the List as is as John, Alan , Greg and others have recommend. For those that are not satisfied do as John suggests migrate to a forum. Kind regards Ed Saskatoon, Saskatchewan '53 BN1 (under restoration), '65 BJ8, '89 Morgan 4/4 Alan wrote: > Team..... > FWIW - the internet is all things to everyone. I participate in the list > because the format and shared immediacy suits me. I feel that I am part of a > support group, rather than a detached observer. The forum approach doesn't > suit me so I rarely (if ever) check them out. > > The list will be kept as it is (I hope) for as long as we participate and > MJB (praise and honours) keeps it alive. > _______________________________________________ > (______________ Alan Bromfield _______________) > (______ \____1957-BN4 ___/ _______) > (_________________________) > http://www.nfahc.co.uk > Subject: Re: [Healeys] List message limits > > We have that now. It is called the List Archives. I like the concept of the > list in which emails pop up on my computer all day long and I can pick and > choose which are of interest to me. I do not like searching through forums > on the odd chance that someone has experienced the same problem as I. > > I like the immediacy of the list in which I can ask a question and have > emails come in automatically during the day with no effort on my part. > > > In short, keep the list as it is and migrate to one of the forums if you > wish. > > John Sims, BN6 > Aberdeen, NJ > > www.healey6.com Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Because e-mail can be altered electronically, the integrity of this communication cannot be guaranteed. From robert.w.johnson at charter.net Fri Nov 2 11:38:51 2007 From: robert.w.johnson at charter.net (Bob Johnson) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:38:51 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Elliott-Forbes Robinson Redeux Message-ID: <00b101c81d7f$9d7a01d0$021919ac@valued28addca9> Well, now I've got to the archives and reread all the thread concerning Elliott-Forbes Robinson. This week our little local paper, news at norman, came up with an article about local industry, specifically, Crawford and Crawford Composites and Crawford Race Cars, LLC. They are located here in Denver, NC. Seems the Crawfords came here "on the advise of Elliott-Forbes Robinson who lives in Sherrill's Ford." That is about 10 miles from where I live. Tried to find a link to the story on the newspaper web site, but this article isn't there. Sorry. Called the newspaper and they sent me the Pages from the paper that contain the article, which is mostly about the Crawford's enterprises. If anyone has interest, I can send it as attachments individually. Bob Johnson BJ8 From jstmorris at yahoo.com Fri Nov 2 11:49:20 2007 From: jstmorris at yahoo.com (J. Scott Morris) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:49:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: [CMSHG] Austin Healey Sprite 50th Message-ID: <848328.13761.qm@web30302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi All; I thought this would be of interest and perhaps those in 'The Know' could contact Mike Jennings with appropriate information. --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada; Austin Healey 3000s - '60 MkI BN7, '62 MkII BT7 datsit1968 wrote: To: CMSHG at yahoogroups.com From: "datsit1968" Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:12:50 -0000 Subject: [CMSHG] Austin Healey Sprite 50th First, my name is Mike Jennings & I'm the organizer of the 50th Anniversary of Sprites with the Vintage Automobile Racing Association of Canada,(www. varac.ca) we will have our 29th Annual Vintage Festival at Mosport raceway in Ontario Canada on June 20-22/2008, featuring Austin Healey Sprites & CAN-AM cars. I'm looking for contacts in the Sprite world, USA-CAN - UK who have Sprite Specials, early race history's, just love racing Sprites to any street Sprite show or go, to fill out the weekend of racing & showing of our cars. Any contacts you can give me or pass on the opportunity to join us for this event would be appreciated. We will give Sprites a 4 day event,Thur. test day-lapping (street&road race), Fri.Sat.Sun. practice, qualifying, group 2 race,1hr enduro and a A/H Sprite feature ( need full grid 25+) or A/H-- MG Midget Challenge, we will look at Sprites running as a second grid in the MG Simms cup if we have the ###s & they still want more seat time!!!!!!! We also have one of the best welcome parties of the vintage events world on Friday & a dinner party on Saturday following the new upcoming & old outgoing drivers of the Mosport GRAND PIX of Lawn Chairs!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!! " MEDIC" or "Doctor in the paddock?' Clean up on pit row !!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!! What I'm looking for is a contact #, email for any other special Speedwell,Lenham, Sebring Le Mans Sprites/Racers/ Streeters. We have a list of 16 entries to date(Oct.31/ 07), we have a confirmed entry of Dan Leonard with his 59 Speedwell GT. Needed contact #, email for Richard Rooks (Wisconsin) Tom Cotter (Charlotte,North Carolina) Chris Cross (SVRA?) Tivie (?) We of course send a open invitation to " ALL Austin Healey" racers, owners to attend this event. I hope you can help me out & please pass this on to any Sprite or MG Midget racer who would join us & reply by email. Mike Jennings J. Scott Morris - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives --------------------------------- Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail From healeybruce at roadrunner.com Fri Nov 2 12:25:58 2007 From: healeybruce at roadrunner.com (Healey Bruce) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 12:25:58 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: So CA Fires & AH Club Message-ID: <007f01c81d86$32b1b7b0$9101a8c0@home> I'll share this with the list in case somebody thinks it might benefit their situation. I created an Emergency Healey Starting Procedure that I hang over the trafficator while parked in the garage, with step-by-step instructions and photos for my wife, son or emergency personnel who may need to move the car. Bruce Steele 1960 BN7 Brea, CA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rick Snover" > To: > Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 4:00 PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] So CA Fires & AH Club > > >> At 08:57 PM 10/27/2007, Gerry Kwiat wrote: >>>...past [AHCSD] President Bob Farnsworth & wife Sue, lived on Starvation >>>Mountain in Ramona, and did lose their home, totally burned to the ground >>>including their 3 Healeys. They were able to get out just in time with >>>their lives and pets, no notice, embers burning around them as they fled. >> >> Several of us from the club joined Bob & Sue at their home site yesterday >> for a "Sift & Sort" tech session, to see if we could help them find any >> treasures among the ruins. I was astonished at how completely the house >> had >> burned... hardly any wood left at all, leaving the stucco walls to >> collapse >> inward atop everything else (including the already collapsed tile roof). >> Bob & Sue seemed to be in fair spirits, considering. >> >> I'm no expert, but there didn't appear to be much left of their three >> 100s >> in the garage that was going to be salvageable. We did manage to dig out >> a >> quite a few hand tools, many of which had belonged to Bob's father, a >> carpenter, and I'm told should clean-up reasonably well. Small comfort >> probably, but maybe better than nothing. >> >> I've posted a copy on our web site of a few pictures from my cell phone. >> The quality's not very good, and I have a hard time looking at them >> myself, >> but if you're interested see http://www.sdhealey.org/SiftAndSort.html >> >> Rick >> >> >> -- >> Rick Snover, San Diego, CA, USA >> Vice President (Membership), Newsletter Editor (Interim) & Web Master >> Austin-Healey Club of San Diego >> 1964 Sprite Mk III driver >> 1959 Speedwell Sprite vintage racer (VARA ) >> 1961 3000 Mk II "Tri-Carb" (being restored) and 1955 100 (pieces in >> storage) >> _______________________________________________ >> healeybruce at roadrunner.com >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From wsthompson at thicko.com Fri Nov 2 12:41:42 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:41:42 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] SOS '07 what to wear, what towear? In-Reply-To: <441250190711021202p39d0c2ccpdf4c502cbeaa1af1@mail.gmail.com> References: <001b01c81d68$e4ab8770$ae029650$@com> <7.0.1.0.2.20071102110344.038d4a40@nosimport.com> <002701c81d6a$ae5257b0$0af70710$@com> <441250190711021202p39d0c2ccpdf4c502cbeaa1af1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001d01c81d88$66f04800$34d0d800$@com> Believe me. they're outside. I've got enough junk Sprites lined up on the go kart track it looks like Bristol Motor Speedway on a Sunday. From: Bill Gilroy [mailto:wmgilroy at gmail.com] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 2:03 PM To: Wm. Severin Thompson Cc: Peter C; Spridget List; team-thicko at autox.team.net; healeys at autox.team.net; mgs at autox.team.net Subject: Re: SOS '07 what to wear, what towear? Outside might help with the minty fresh dung smell. On 11/2/07, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: Hey, I've been shoveling and power washing raccoon sh*t for weeks... those cars are damn near "minty fresh" now. We'll see how the weather holds... as I prefer to do any serious blue wrench (torch) work outside. From glemon at neb.rr.com Fri Nov 2 12:42:29 2007 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (glemon at neb.rr.com) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 13:42:29 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: So CA Fires & AH Club Message-ID: <18157919.251161194032549819.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web15-z02> The emergency instructions are probably a good idea, conversely, I have often thought that I do not have much to worry about as far as someone stealing the car, as the typical young thief would probably be flummoxed by the starter button and the manual choke! Greg Lemon 54 BN1 From davzu29 at cox.net Fri Nov 2 12:53:45 2007 From: davzu29 at cox.net (David Z) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 15:53:45 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Battery info References: <104502.28256.qm@web34213.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002101c81d8a$144a86e0$6601a8c0@ORGANIZA79207D> For those who may be interested, The business where you can get "old style" batteries is: Antique Battery Co. located on Old Mill Rd. in Hudson, OH. You can use their Group 27 Lucas battery, and it may be good enough for concourse, but not sure. David Z. -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 108 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len From loftusdesign at cox.net Fri Nov 2 12:58:37 2007 From: loftusdesign at cox.net (John Loftus) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 12:58:37 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Starting nut locktab interference Message-ID: <472B816D.4080400@cox.net> Hi all, Can't find this one in the archives so thought I'd ask the brain trust. The new 837-090 locktab type washer for the Starting nut has a beveled shape (see picture linked below). http://www.loftusdesign.net/dog_nut_washer.jpg The Starting nut does not fit within the flat area of the washer so the corners of the nut hit the bevel first. The locktab is fairly thick (.040") and doesn't appear to flatten out when torqued (and the torque specs I've been told for the starter nut is 70 ft lbs. not hundreds of ft lbs.) What's the best fix? Add a washer to the flat area so the starting nut stands a little higher? Do a small amount of grinding on the bottom corners of the nut to match the bevel? Use an impact wrench (and risk screwing up the crankshaft threads)? I don't recall the original washer being so thick or having the bevel. Is this a quality control problem from the supplier i.e. should I let them know about this or is the way they are supposed to be made? Cheers, John From tomfelts at windstream.net Fri Nov 2 14:47:19 2007 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (tomfelts at windstream.net) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 16:47:19 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: So CA Fires & AH Club Message-ID: <20071102214719.JRCS19750.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> When we shipped the Healey to Europe we had to give starting instructions to the dock personnel. Made a copy and attached it to the steering wheel. tom no--I wasn't all that thrilled with dock personnel starting or driving the car---but--had to be done. > > From: > Date: 2007/11/02 Fri PM 02:42:29 CDT > To: Healey Bruce > CC: Healey Mail Group > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fw: So CA Fires & AH Club > > The emergency instructions are probably a good idea, conversely, I have often thought that I do not have much to worry about as far as someone stealing the car, as the typical young thief would probably be flummoxed by the starter button and the manual choke! > > Greg Lemon > 54 BN1 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From shop at justbrits.com Fri Nov 2 15:58:55 2007 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 16:58:55 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Starting nut locktab interference 837-090 Message-ID: <00c401c81da3$f2478fb0$6601a8c0@actualshop> John, etal: As I said I would be doing, I reported John's query to Moss. Reply IS as I suspected it would be. I would sincerely request that when a prob like John's pops up that you include Moss Part # in the beginning of the "Subject:" as that is what Kelvin also has requested. Ed ***************************************************************************** ********* ----- Original Message ----- From: Kelvin Dodd To: shop at justbrits.com Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 3:21 PM Subject: RE: [Healeys] Starting nut locktab interference 837-090 Ed: This is the updated design of lock tab. The bevel must be towards the outside. The nut is torqued down onto the washer. The corners of the nut may cut into the bevel slightly, but this is not a problem. The bevel makes it easier to grab the edge of the lock tab with channel locks and fold it against the side of the nut. The area of the bevel covering the recess machined into the pulley is then hammered down into the recess locking the tab in place. Kelvin Dodd Global Sourcing Engineer, Moss Motors, Ltd. www.mossmotors.com 440 Rutherford Street Goleta, CA 93117 From Awgertoo at aol.com Fri Nov 2 16:34:17 2007 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 19:34:17 EDT Subject: [Healeys] List message limits Message-ID: Mark was not asking for a vote on whether we liked this list's format or rules or whether we wanted it to be a forum. He merely asked us to keep our messages short by not copying unnecessarily from earlier messages. Best--Michael _Oritt_ (mailto:Oritt at bradakis.com) ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Fri Nov 2 16:29:16 2007 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 10:29:16 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] List Technical Problem Message-ID: <003901c81da8$3065ac60$4001a8c0@ibm45xm8v45fmw> G'day I seem to be beset with computer technical problems. I have sent 2 messages to the list in the last day or two and have not received them back. I know that they have been received by your good selves as I have received direct responses. Perhaps it's my service provider but I appear to be receiving other emails without problems. Any idea? Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia From legal_bill at verizon.net Fri Nov 2 19:54:12 2007 From: legal_bill at verizon.net (legal_bill at verizon.net) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 21:54:12 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Healeys] List message limits Message-ID: <32932244.1747181194058452400.JavaMail.root@vms229.mailsrvcs.net> Greg, I understand your point, but the message boards that exist are not really specific to the Healey. And let's face it, this list is where all the people who really know what they are talking about participate. I guess that is what is really at the heart of it for me. It isn't about the format, it is about the people. The list isn't great because it is a list. It is great because of the people who participate on it. I truly believe that the community would be greatly enhanced by a different format. But I'm not trying to change the community. If people simply refuse to leave the list format, so be it. I just feel it is a lost opportunity to improve the interaction between members, the storage of information, and the organization of discussions. From: Greg Lemon Date: 2007/11/02 Fri AM 08:37:25 CDT To: Roland Wilhelmy , legal_bill at verizon.net Cc: healeys at autox.team.net, "Mark J. Bradakis" Subject: Re: [Healeys] List message limits There is a fairly active (although in my opinion not as active as our list) Healey message board at British Car Forum. Many of the same people list and lurk there as here. For what it is worth I would prefer the list be left as is, and those who want a message board or forum can move over to that forum or visit both, as I do. Greg Lemon 54 BN1 Bill Boston area '65 BJ8 '02 S2000 '06 330i From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Fri Nov 2 19:55:07 2007 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (James Shope) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 19:55:07 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] starter button Message-ID: <013201c81dc4$f100b4d0$5201a8c0@Jim> a few years ago my friend left his bj7 at a car wash while we had lunch. came back and key was almost twisted off and ignition was turned about 90 degrees. no one working there knew how to start the car and had no clue what a starter button was or where it was. healeymanjim From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Fri Nov 2 20:01:18 2007 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (James Shope) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 20:01:18 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] seeking parts Message-ID: <013b01c81dc5$ce018cb0$5201a8c0@Jim> any lister know where i can get the aluminum rails that cover the sills and door seal without buying the complete set of door aluminum? new or used ok. healeymanjim From rjswain at hotmail.com Sat Nov 3 04:30:32 2007 From: rjswain at hotmail.com (Rick Swain) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 11:30:32 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] seeking parts In-Reply-To: <013b01c81dc5$ce018cb0$5201a8c0@Jim> References: <013b01c81dc5$ce018cb0$5201a8c0@Jim> Message-ID: I believe Autofarm sells the individual aluminum trim pieces for the doors. Rick Swain '59 BN4 _________________________________________________________________ R U Ready for Windows Live Messenger Beta 8.5? Try it today! From dwhite4949 at wowway.com Sat Nov 3 05:08:05 2007 From: dwhite4949 at wowway.com (Daniel and Diane White) Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 08:08:05 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] List message limits Message-ID: <472C64A5.4030504@wowway.com> I agree with Michael. Mark's message was very clear- if certain listers stop hitting the "reply" symbol, all the previous messages on a subject won't clog up and slow down the system. My two pfennigs worth. Dan White 1962 BN7 Mk II From healey.nut at gmail.com Sat Nov 3 06:36:47 2007 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 21:36:47 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] List message limits In-Reply-To: <472A886B.9060709@bradakis.com> References: <472A886B.9060709@bradakis.com> Message-ID: Mark, et. al., I'd like to ask if you can program the server to automatically generate witty and insulting posts to those that put up annoying messages, that would be way cool. Actually several of us have had issues because if you type more than a couple medium sized paragraphs the messages get bounced. It would be great maybe if you can increase the limit to 5 or 6K I think that would be ideal, but 4K I suppose we can live with it if we have to. Thanks for all your hard work! Alan On 11/2/07, Mark J. Bradakis wrote: > Here's someting I recently sent to another Team.Net list. It would be > nice if folks paid attention to it. > > mjb. > ----- From healey.nut at gmail.com Sat Nov 3 06:38:25 2007 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 21:38:25 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] I need a BJ8 Window Regulator Message-ID: Anyone know where I can get a decent one? Either side will do, but preferably RH side if you know where I can get one. Thanks!!! Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 From RAWDAWGS at aol.com Sat Nov 3 08:13:21 2007 From: RAWDAWGS at aol.com (RAWDAWGS at aol.com) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 11:13:21 EDT Subject: [Healeys] bringing back the dead Message-ID: Idiot update. I filed the points and have OK (not great) spark at the plugs, new gas, new fuel pump, and everything is cranking but not catching. I put my finger over the #1 spark plug hone and bumped the starter until I felt compression. Dd it until I felt I was at TDC #1, and low and behold there was a mark on the pulley that lined up with the pointer. I pulled the cap and the rotor was 180 degrees from the #1 lead. I thoughtAha! I pulled the distrib to paint the engine and must have put it back in backwards, but have come to find the distributor only goes in one way. Whats up with that? I think I am off 180 degrees but the car ran when parked 20 years ago and I never touched the engine (except as mentioned above). I think I am missing something. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From don at anglesey.us Sat Nov 3 08:43:05 2007 From: don at anglesey.us (Don ) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 09:43:05 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Message Boards and forums In-Reply-To: <2054290.12601131194010532721.JavaMail.root@vms171.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: Forums are old news and can be located here: http://www.britishcarforum.com/bcforum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/postlist/Board /1/page/1 If you really want something new create a Virtual World Healey Garage. Don 57' BN4 From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Nov 3 08:44:46 2007 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 08:44:46 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] bringing back the dead (off topic) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <472C976E.3090403@comcast.net> re: " I put my finger over the #1 spark plug hone and bumped the starter until I felt compression. " Off topic, but I have to throw this in because several Listers have mentioned doing this: I knew an A&P (licensed "airframe and powerplant" mechanic) who was doing this on an airplane engine when somehow the engine was cranked too far, too fast on the intake stroke. All I saw was his massively bandaged thumb, but was told all the tissue was ripped off his thumb, down to the bone. This really isn't a good practice. bs RAWDAWGS at aol.com wrote: > Idiot update. I filed the points and have OK (not great) spark at the plugs, > new gas, new fuel pump, and everything is cranking but not catching. I put > my finger over the #1 spark plug hone and bumped the starter until I felt > compression. Dd it until I felt I was at TDC #1, and low and behold there was a > mark on the pulley that lined up with the pointer. I pulled the cap and the > rotor was 180 degrees from the #1 lead. I thoughtAha! I pulled the distrib to > paint the engine and must have put it back in backwards, but have come to find > the distributor only goes in one way. Whats up with that? I think I am off > 180 degrees but the car ran when parked 20 years ago and I never touched the > engine (except as mentioned above). I think I am missing something. > > > > ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > -- *************************************************************** Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net '67 Austin-Healey 3000 '56 Austin-Healey 100M *************************************************************** From tfsbj7 at mindspring.com Sat Nov 3 09:03:07 2007 From: tfsbj7 at mindspring.com (skip) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 12:03:07 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] So CA Fires & AH Club In-Reply-To: <6.2.2.1.2.20071101160009.02d496f0@popd.ix.netcom.com> References: <6.2.2.1.2.20071101160009.02d496f0@popd.ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: <06d401c81e33$07277190$42c95381@TFS> Interesting to see how fickle the fire was.... note that the palm trees still have green fronds... (Maybe there is safety under a palm?) -skip- --------------------------- I've posted a copy on our web site of a few pictures from my cell phone. The quality's not very good, and I have a hard time looking at them myself, but if you're interested see http://www.sdhealey.org/SiftAndSort.html Rick From rchaskell at earthlink.net Sat Nov 3 09:39:18 2007 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 12:39:18 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] conclave badges Message-ID: <472CA436.6050802@earthlink.net> Just a heads up to those waiting for their Vermont Conclave car badges - I received mine today. Bob From loftusdesign at cox.net Sat Nov 3 10:05:24 2007 From: loftusdesign at cox.net (John Loftus) Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 10:05:24 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Starting nut locktab interference 837-090 Message-ID: <472CAA54.2030205@cox.net> Ed (and Kelvin), Thanks for sending on my question to Moss and for the reply. Situations like this make me wonder why Moss doesn't include these types of 'installation instructions/tips' with their parts more often. Perhaps they could print this info on the parts receipt so it's not an extra piece of paper which adds to logistics. It would be helpful to list the torque setting since I couldn't find it in the workshop manual and have been told everything from 75 ft/lbs to 140+ ft/lbs. Minor point but I find the following part of the directions less than clear: "The area of the bevel covering the recess machined into the pulley is then hammered down into the recess locking the tab in place." I think you are trying to say the remaining beveled area is hammered flat against the pulley? If not, please clarify. I still think the bevel is sized incorrectly and/or a flat washer design (no bevel) would work just as well in this area. If I had known the remaining bevel should be flattened out afterwards, I would have flattened the bevel before installation and used a small chisel to raise the edge of the locktab that gets flatten against the side of the nut. And thanks for listening. My comments are intended to be helpful by providing some feedback. Cheers, John From glemon at neb.rr.com Sat Nov 3 10:11:09 2007 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 12:11:09 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] bringing back the dead References: Message-ID: <003101c81e3c$87562560$6401a8c0@toshibauser> I think you should be able to pull the distributor up, not even completely remove it, and turn the rotor (and attached dist. drive shaft) 180 degrees and tighten her back down, good luck! Greg Lemon 54 BN1 From simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk Sat Nov 3 10:19:53 2007 From: simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk (Simon Lachlan) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 17:19:53 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] bringing back the dead In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000601c81e3d$bfe36bd0$0200a8c0@simonalexa> Are you getting fuel to the carbs? (New fuel pumps are fine, but if, say, an inline filter is full of crud then where are you?) Or are your carbs' filters blocked up? Or your carbs u/s? (Unlikely in the extreme, I'd have thought). If you try starting it and then pull a plug at once, is that plug wet or dry? Is your fuel the stuff that was in the tank when you last ran the car?? You've got a spark, but not a great one....per my last email, are you sure the points are set right? Re the 180 degree out, I quote:- " You probably have the shaft in the dist turned 180. If you take off the rotor you will find a screw inside the top of the shaft. Unscrew that one after removing the timing plate. Then you can lift the upper half of the shaft and reposition it 180 from where it were, while taking care to refit the springs and advance weights correctly. Magnus Karlsson SWEDEN" Magnus knows what he's on about. Re rotor arms, they do give up. Some repros(?) are useless. But I doubt yours, being old, is a dud repro and, if it worked when you laid the car up, it should work now. Are you sure you have the HT leads set up correctly....the right ones going to the right place? Do you have a short in the distributor with the infamous "little black wire", the one that usually looks a frayed old boot lace? I suppose your starter is up to scratch? Needs to be fairly gutsy if the engine's a bit reluctant/off tune. Are your chokes connected and working? Have fun! Simon. -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+simon.lachlan=homecall.co.uk at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+simon.lachlan=homecall.co.uk at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of RAWDAWGS at aol.com Sent: 03 November 2007 15:13 To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] bringing back the dead Idiot update. I filed the points and have OK (not great) spark at the plugs, new gas, new fuel pump, and everything is cranking but not catching. I put my finger over the #1 spark plug hone and bumped the starter until I felt compression. Dd it until I felt I was at TDC #1, and low and behold there was a mark on the pulley that lined up with the pointer. I pulled the cap and the rotor was 180 degrees from the #1 lead. I thoughtAha! I pulled the distrib to paint the engine and must have put it back in backwards, but have come to find the distributor only goes in one way. Whats up with that? I think I am off 180 degrees but the car ran when parked 20 years ago and I never touched the engine (except as mentioned above). I think I am missing something. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From richard.ewald at gmail.com Sat Nov 3 12:08:06 2007 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 12:08:06 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] bringing back the dead In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Give the difficult job to the lazy guy, he will find the easy way to do it. Remove #1 and #6 wires from the cap, replace them in the other position. Do the same with #2 and #5 and numbers 3 and 4. Does the engine now start? :-) Rick On Nov 3, 2007 9:13 AM, wrote: > Idiot update. I filed the points and have OK (not great) spark at the > plugs, > new gas, new fuel pump, and everything is cranking but not catching. I > put > my finger over the #1 spark plug hone and bumped the starter until I felt > compression. Dd it until I felt I was at TDC #1, and low and behold there > was a > mark on the pulley that lined up with the pointer. I pulled the cap and > the > rotor was 180 degrees from the #1 lead. I thoughtAha! I pulled the distrib > to > paint the engine and must have put it back in backwards, but have come to > find > the distributor only goes in one way. Whats up with that? I think I am > off > 180 degrees but the car ran when parked 20 years ago and I never touched > the > engine (except as mentioned above). I think I am missing something. > > > > ************************************** See what's new at > http://www.aol.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From edwjkeuer at comcast.net Sat Nov 3 13:03:48 2007 From: edwjkeuer at comcast.net (Edward Keuer) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 15:03:48 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Window Roll-up Message-ID: <73811341-7EE0-4AD6-81C6-4612A0E935B5@comcast.net> Alan, When I was searching for the regulator recently I tried many places. SCParts in the UK said they could find one, but I cancelled my order when my repair efforts worked. Try enquiries at scparts.co.uk Good luck, Edw. J. Keuer Wheaton, IL '66 BJ8 From haywoodone at hotmail.com Sat Nov 3 17:38:38 2007 From: haywoodone at hotmail.com (George Haywood) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 20:38:38 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] bringing back the dead Message-ID: If you are sure you're at TDC on compression of #1 and the timing mark is lined up then your distributor drive spindle may be 180 degrees out. Pull the distributor by removing the two bolts at the base of the distributor on the block and you will see, in the hole, the slots that engage the distributor shaft. One side slot is larger than the other so that the distributor will only fit in one direction. There is a threaded hole in the center in which you can fit a long bolt (I don't know the size to use off hand) to withdraw the spindle and replace it in the proper position 180 degrees around. It will twist as it comes out (counter clockwise I believe) The two sides of the slot should be approx. at the "twenty till two" position. Your vacuum advance unit will be heading toward the rear of the engine at about a 45 degree angle to accept the vacuum line. When you have all those conditions met then place the distributor back in and check to see that the rotor is pointing toward the #1 lead. Rotate the rotor (distributor spindle) by hand back and forth a little to make sure that it is seated in the slots before you tighten it back up. Then attach the wires and fire the beast up. I think that is the proper method of changing a 180 degree out rotor but if I'm not completely correct someone here will further assist in the explanation of the procedure. Good luck with it, George _________________________________________________________________ Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Cafi. Stop by today. http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_sweetstuff2.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_OctWLt agline From wsthompson at thicko.com Sat Nov 3 17:45:20 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 19:45:20 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] SOS '07 widow's Midget Message-ID: <000d01c81e7b$fbab5720$f3020560$@com> Hey y'all, I went to Madison today, and brought back Mary's MKI Midget. The was the car she and her late husband went on their first date in. The car has been off the road since 1990. Mary thinks perhaps due to an axle issue. Just in case, anyone have a spare wire wheel axle to donate to the cause? I'm going to see if the motor spins freely tomorrow. If not, I'll start soaking the bores in advance of SOS. If we're unable to resurrect the motor, we'll see if any of the motors in the cars we're stripping are viable. We'll have wheel complete hydraulics to rebuild, tune up, clean the fuel system, etc. It should be a rewarding project. WST Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From haywoodone at hotmail.com Sat Nov 3 20:00:06 2007 From: haywoodone at hotmail.com (George Haywood) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 22:00:06 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] bringing back the dead In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I just checked your first posting and found that you have a bn4. I'm sorry, you have no vacuum advance and also a mechanical tach drive. I'm not sure whether the information I gave you will hold true for your car even though it is a 6 cyl. The drive spindle may be arranged a little different than what I described. As Gilda Radner would say "never mind". Take care, George _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook  together at last. Get it now. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL100626971 033 From haywoodone at hotmail.com Sat Nov 3 20:18:07 2007 From: haywoodone at hotmail.com (George Haywood) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 22:18:07 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] bringing back the dead In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Well now I find out that you may have a vacuum advance unit after all. Anyway, my info could help you get the correct orientation of the distributor drive. George _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts! Play Star Shuffle: the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_oct From rusd at sitestar.net Sat Nov 3 20:11:50 2007 From: rusd at sitestar.net (Dave Russell) Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 21:11:50 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Test In-Reply-To: <67C22CB1-5EE7-4E18-AD68-08BF406858FA@mac.com> References: <67C22CB1-5EE7-4E18-AD68-08BF406858FA@mac.com> Message-ID: <472D3876.2040801@sitestar.net> Trying to see if I'm still on the list. Sorry for the bother. D From qualitas.jack at gmail.com Sun Nov 4 03:44:02 2007 From: qualitas.jack at gmail.com (Jack Feldman) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 04:44:02 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Parts Wanted Message-ID: <48720d20711040244q49e1c5d3pf1868960370cd753@mail.gmail.com> A bonnet for a 1960 BT7, hopefully withing driving range of Chicago. Black side shift tunnel carpeting. Much thanks, Jack From healey.nut at gmail.com Sun Nov 4 05:23:51 2007 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 20:23:51 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] bringing back the dead In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Your distributor is not backwards. Just take the drive dog out of the distributor housing and flip it around 180 degrees. It's your drive dog that is in backwards. Very common mistake. Alan On 11/4/07, RAWDAWGS at aol.com wrote: > Idiot update. I filed the points and have OK (not great) spark at the plugs, > new gas, new fuel pump, and everything is cranking but not catching. I put > my finger over the #1 spark plug hone and bumped the starter until I felt > compression. Dd it until I felt I was at TDC #1, and low and behold there was a > mark on the pulley that lined up with the pointer. I pulled the cap and the > rotor was 180 degrees from the #1 lead. I thoughtAha! I pulled the distrib to > paint the engine and must have put it back in backwards, but have come to find > the distributor only goes in one way. Whats up with that? I think I am off > 180 degrees but the car ran when parked 20 years ago and I never touched the > engine (except as mentioned above). I think I am missing something. From mkgoodman at worldnet.att.net Sun Nov 4 05:41:59 2007 From: mkgoodman at worldnet.att.net (Mark Goodman) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 07:41:59 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Murphy's other laws! Message-ID: <002c01c81ee0$261272f0$723758d0$@att.net> *Murphy's Lesser Known Laws * 1. Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. 2. Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine. 3. Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't. 4. Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. 5. The 50-50-90 rule: Anytime you have a 50-50 chance of getting something right, there's a 90% probability you'll get it wrong. 6. If you lined up all the cars in the world end to end, someone would be stupid enough to try to pass them, on a hill, in the fog. 7. The things that come to those who wait will be the scraggly junk left by those who got there first. 8. The shin bone is a device for finding furniture in a dark room. 9. A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well. 10. When you go into court, you are putting yourself into the hands of twelve people who weren't smart enough to get out of jury duty. _____ See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. From jstmorris at yahoo.com Sun Nov 4 08:43:43 2007 From: jstmorris at yahoo.com (J. Scott Morris) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 10:43:43 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Healeys] DHMC Ltd-Headlines Publication Message-ID: <735963.77651.qm@web30304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Calling all Healey Experts. In reviewing a number of old magazines, I came across an advertisement by the Donald Healey Motor Co. Ltd. Within the advertisement was a statement: A card to Warwick will place you on our mailing list for the monthly copy of Headlines from Healey. [Autosport, July 13, 1962, page 66] Does anyone recall this publication, how long it ran for, and if any copies remain in existence? --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada; '60 MkI BN7, '62 MkII BT7 J. Scott Morris - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives --------------------------------- Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers. From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Sat Nov 3 20:51:54 2007 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Leonard Hartnett) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 20:51:54 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] List message limits In-Reply-To: <472C64A5.4030504@wowway.com> References: <472C64A5.4030504@wowway.com> Message-ID: Reducing the size of messages is fine but there is another side to this matter. If we are to eliminate all previous messages, then there needs to be a rule that says you can't say, "Thanks for your answer. It solved the problem" when we never saw 'the answer' and it could be of interest to many Listers. It would be nice to know what the problem was and what the solution was. Without SOME background, those kind of messages should not be sent to the List at all. (The Other) Len Vacaville, California, USA 1967 3000 MKIII, HBJ8L39031 From mikebn2 at win.net Sun Nov 4 12:34:09 2007 From: mikebn2 at win.net (mike schneider) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:34:09 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] List message limits In-Reply-To: References: <472C64A5.4030504@wowway.com> Message-ID: <472E1EB1.7070001@win.net> Len, That certainly makes sense. You know what I am commenting on because you can read it. Mike Schneider Bluegrass AHC Leonard Hartnett wrote: > Reducing the size of messages is fine but there is another side to this > matter. If we are to eliminate all previous messages, then there needs to > be a rule that says you can't say, "Thanks for your answer. It solved the > problem" when we never saw 'the answer' and it could be of interest to many > Listers. It would be nice to know what the problem was and what the > solution was. Without SOME background, those kind of messages should not be > sent to the List at all. > > (The Other) Len > Vacaville, California, USA > 1967 3000 MKIII, HBJ8L39031 > _______________________________________________ [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of mikebn2.vcf] From jobu53 at hotmail.com Sun Nov 4 14:40:13 2007 From: jobu53 at hotmail.com (Dan Serrao) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 14:40:13 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] List message limits In-Reply-To: References: <472C64A5.4030504@wowway.com> Message-ID: We have a guy that basically is running this site for free. It's a dictatorship as well it should be. He spends his time doing this and he can do whatever he thinks best. It's a great site whatever the format. Leave things alone!!!! Go take your Healeys for a drive!! Dan Serrao 1963 BJ7> From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net> To: healeys at autox.team.net> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 20:51:54 -0700> Subject: Re: [Healeys] List message limits> > Reducing the size of messages is fine but there is another side to this > matter. If we are to eliminate all previous messages, then there needs to > be a rule that says you can't say, "Thanks for your answer. It solved the > problem" when we never saw 'the answer' and it could be of interest to many > Listers. It would be nice to know what the problem was and what the > solution was. Without SOME background, those kind of messages should not be > sent to the List at all.> > (The Other) Len> Vacaville, California, USA> 1967 3000 MKIII, HBJ8L39031 > _______________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > Healeys at autox.team.net> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts! Play Star Shuffle: the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_oct From dwflagg at juno.com Sun Nov 4 15:27:22 2007 From: dwflagg at juno.com (Douglas W Flagg) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 17:27:22 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] List message limits Message-ID: <20071104.172722.2964.0.dwflagg@juno.com> If the personal messages/responses were off the list this would help tremendously. If a personal response would be of interest to the group then post it to the list. Doug > We have a guy that basically is running this site for free. It's a > dictatorship as well it should be. He spends his time doing this and > he can do > whatever he thinks best. It's a great site whatever the format. > Leave things > alone!!!! Go take your Healeys for a drive!! > > Dan Serrao > 1963 BJ7> From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net> To: > healeys at autox.team.net> Date: > Sat, 3 Nov 2007 20:51:54 -0700> Subject: Re: [Healeys] List message > limits> > > Reducing the size of messages is fine but there is another side to > this > > matter. If we are to eliminate all previous messages, then there > needs to > be > a rule that says you can't say, "Thanks for your answer. It solved > the > > problem" when we never saw 'the answer' and it could be of interest > to many > > Listers. It would be nice to know what the problem was and what the > > solution > was. Without SOME background, those kind of messages should not be > > sent to > the List at all.> > (The Other) Len> Vacaville, California, USA> > 1967 3000 > MKIII, HBJ8L39031 > _______________________________________________> > Support > Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > Healeys at autox.team.net> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > _________________________________________________________________ > Climb to the top of the charts! Play Star Shuffle: the word > scramble > challenge with star power. > http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_oc t > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Sun Nov 4 16:11:17 2007 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Leonard Hartnett) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 15:11:17 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] List message limits In-Reply-To: References: <472C64A5.4030504@wowway.com> Message-ID: <5900BB01FA00421AB2E62192FA678281@LeonardPC> Dan: I have praised Mark for this List in the past and send him a check periodically to help defray costs so I am not looking for a change. However, if we "...Leave things alone..." then the long messages and compaints of "bounce" will continue. Mark wants to eliminate that problem but I felt it important to point out the 'unintended consequences' of that effort. This subject has come up before when he was with Majordomo. Now that there is a limit on size, it is more important. All I ask is that messages sent to the list be complete enough that we understand what they mean and do not leave out information that could be of interest to all. Oh! And my Healey will be out on the road tomorrow and probably Tuesday, as well! (The Other) Len Vacaville, California, USA 1967 3000 MKIII, HBJ8L39031 ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Serrao To: Leonard Hartnett ; Healey Mail List Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 1:40 PM Subject: RE: [Healeys] List message limits We have a guy that basically is running this site for free. It's a dictatorship as well it should be. He spends his time doing this and he can do whatever he thinks best. It's a great site whatever the format. Leave things alone!!!! Go take your Healeys for a drive!! Dan Serrao 1963 BJ7 ! From ahbn6 at optonline.net Sun Nov 4 16:45:16 2007 From: ahbn6 at optonline.net (John Sims) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:45:16 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] List message limits In-Reply-To: <5900BB01FA00421AB2E62192FA678281@LeonardPC> References: <472C64A5.4030504@wowway.com> <5900BB01FA00421AB2E62192FA678281@LeonardPC> Message-ID: <000201c81f3c$c0d03af0$6500a8c0@simsoffice> I feel that I must chime in also. This list is a totally FREE effort on the part of a dedicated LBC person, Mark Bradikis. No moderators, no advertising, no contributing advertisers, no nothing as opposed to some of the forums. Just member supported. I contribute frequently and we all should to keep it alive. It bothers me when people are critical of the burps and wheezes not understanding that if it were not for Marks pocketbook and dedication, there would be no list. It costs me almost $650 per year to maintain my web site for the edification of Healey aficionados, which makes me wonder how much Mark pays out of his pocket for the many lists he maintains -- not just Healeys but a plethora of LBC lists. That being said, I believe that if we observe the following suggestions, we will continue to have a very good list: 1. Always include a relevant subject in the subject line. 2. Always edit your replies and delete the duplicative references leaving only the relevant portions so that we can follow the thread. A little bit of editing is easy to do. 3. Never send a blind post saying, for example, "I agree and also here is what else" without a reference to the original post. All too often, there will be a reply and no one can determine what was the original question. Be mindful of the fact that many of us maintain our own archives. 4. When a post is made, rather than to reply direct, it is often better to reply to the list. Many of us wait for the reply only to, after several days and seeing a reply to the reply, realize that we have been cut out. Instead of hitting "Reply All" Just type in whatever you have in your email client for the List. Reply direct to the list, cutting out the list, only when the originator so requests. You will never know when an innocuous question has wide spread appeal. I am sure that there are many more rules that we should follow and these are not intended to be applied to the Friday Funnies or other things that crop up on the list the beauty of which is that this List is truly a daily world wide Healey meeting in which we discuss Healeys 75 percent of the time, pass jokes 5 percent of the time and the rest of the time just gabfest about a plethora of subjects. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ www.healey6.com Dan: I have praised Mark for this List in the past and send him a check periodically to help defray costs so I am not looking for a change. However, if we "...Leave things alone..." then the long messages and compaints of "bounce" will continue. Mark wants to eliminate that problem but I felt it important to point out the 'unintended consequences' of that effort (The Other) Len Vacaville, California, USA 1967 3000 MKIII, HBJ8L39031 We have a guy that basically is running this site for free. It's a dictatorship as well it should be. He spends his time doing this and he can do whatever he thinks best. It's a great site whatever the format. Leave things alone!!!! Go take your Healeys for a drive!! Dan Serrao 1963 BJ7 From glemon at neb.rr.com Sun Nov 4 17:50:32 2007 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 18:50:32 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] List message limits References: <472C64A5.4030504@wowway.com><5900BB01FA00421AB2E62192FA678281@LeonardPC> <000201c81f3c$c0d03af0$6500a8c0@simsoffice> Message-ID: <000801c81f45$defcc0d0$6401a8c0@toshibauser> I would add that I have had a handful of messages bounced because of size. They have been several paragraphs long. In each instance when I resent with the older messages delated (whch I try to do all the time, but don't always remember) it went through fine. Is easy to do, if that is all it takes to make it work (and Mark has stated his reasons for wanting us to do that) I can certainly live with it. There are three other messages below mine that I am going to delete before sending, I can do it faster than I can type this sentence. If needed you can leave the immediate prior message or a part thereof for reference, but I don't think, as Mark stated, that the whoe string is needed each time there is a reply. If you use a computer and you don't know how to highlight, copy, cut, and paste you should learn, they are very useful tools--I am not at all trying to be condescending about that, just helpful. Greg Lemon 54 BN1 From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Sun Nov 4 19:19:18 2007 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (James Shope) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 18:19:18 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] message list Message-ID: <002701c81f52$453e0190$5201a8c0@Jim> mark used to send a reminder and an address to send bucks to help out the list. have not seen it for a while and have forgotten to do my duty. please advise on where to send check. healeymanjim From rchaskell at earthlink.net Sun Nov 4 19:57:08 2007 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:57:08 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] message list In-Reply-To: <002701c81f52$453e0190$5201a8c0@Jim> References: <002701c81f52$453e0190$5201a8c0@Jim> Message-ID: <472E8684.2080205@earthlink.net> See http://www.team.net/donate.html James Shope wrote: > mark used to send a reminder and an address to send bucks to help out the > list. have not seen it for a while and have forgotten to do my duty. please > advise on where to send check. healeymanjim From ah3000me at gmail.com Mon Nov 5 04:56:08 2007 From: ah3000me at gmail.com (T W) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 06:56:08 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] backup fuel pump polarity Message-ID: I'd like to add a backup fuel pump to my BJ8. All of the small pumps I've seen state that they're for negative-ground cars, and my car is a positive ground car. If I get the polarity of the wiring right, does it matter? Or am I going to short something out thru the pump body? thanks, Tom From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Nov 5 06:39:01 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 07:39:01 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] SOS '07 shop prep Message-ID: <001c01c81fb1$3c1f8430$b45e8c90$@com> Hey y'all, We're getting the Thicko International Headquarters Shop whipped into shape for the upcoming SOS '07. This will be our 3rd winter at the Dream Farm. It is a massive undertaking to get all the crap. I mean spares that I've accumulated in my 37 years in this hobby. I could spend 2 solid weeks just organizing engines, heads, cams, body parts, and other miscellaneous bits over in the cold storage side of the shop. But for the meantime, the heated shop is getting the attention. We'll have multiple impacts, air ratchets, toolboxes so no one need wait on a tool to get something accomplished. If the usual 20+ folks show up each day, we can break into groups of 4 or 5 to attack each project en masse. I might ask that some of you bring a set of jackstands, or a Horrible Freight aluminum jack if you can bring it with you. WST Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Mon Nov 5 10:10:38 2007 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 09:10:38 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Parts Wanted In-Reply-To: <48720d20711040244q49e1c5d3pf1868960370cd753@mail.gmail.com> References: <48720d20711040244q49e1c5d3pf1868960370cd753@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Jack, we have a used hood available. The carpeting we can get you just the tunnel carpeting new. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Nov 4, 2007, at 2:44 AM, Jack Feldman wrote: > A bonnet for a 1960 BT7, hopefully withing driving range of Chicago. > > Black side shift tunnel carpeting. > > Much thanks, > > Jack > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From kags at shaw.ca Mon Nov 5 11:23:49 2007 From: kags at shaw.ca (Earl Kagna) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 10:23:49 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] backup fuel pump polarity References: Message-ID: <001a01c81fd9$02b5eae0$fb086c18@computer> Tom: If you use a plastic bodied pump with 2 leads, the electrics / electronics will be isolated. You can then connect for whatever the car's polarity is without problems. In addition, if you ever decide to change the car's polarity, the pump can still be used - simply interchange the leads. If you wish to use a metal bodied pump, and you want to leave the car POS ground, you will need a pump that is manufactured for POS ground applications. Earl Kagna Victoria, B.C. BT7 tri-carb BJ8 (both converted to NEG ground, both using plastic bodied pumps) ----- Original Message ----- From: "T W" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 3:56 AM Subject: [Healeys] backup fuel pump polarity I'd like to add a backup fuel pump to my BJ8. All of the small pumps I've seen state that they're for negative-ground cars, and my car is a positive ground car. If I get the polarity of the wiring right, does it matter? Or am I going to short something out thru the pump body? thanks, Tom From jcapezzuti at aol.com Mon Nov 5 13:09:26 2007 From: jcapezzuti at aol.com (jcapezzuti at aol.com) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:09:26 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Sunbeam Alpine Message-ID: <8C9EDFEE667CD01-A0C-8367@webmail-dd12.sysops.aol.com> Does anyone know where I might find a crank for a '67 Sunbeam Alpine for a friend?? I've checked Moss, Victoria British..... Thanks, Jeff '63 BJ7 '76 TR6 Tampa ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com From Jwhlyadv at aol.com Mon Nov 5 13:34:55 2007 From: Jwhlyadv at aol.com (Jwhlyadv at aol.com) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 15:34:55 EST Subject: [Healeys] Save the Dates in ' 08 Message-ID: I have created two new web sites for upcoming Healey events. If I could ask the web masters and newsletter editors on the list to add them to their web pages/newsletters it would be appreciated. Both web pages have a subscription box for a Yahoo Mail Group that you can join to receive information about the event as it becomes available and be the first to receive a registration form. Springthing 2008 will be held May 18 - 20, 2008 in Central Kentucky. This years event will be more of a driving tour of the historic distilleries and back roads of Kentucky. Future 50 Founder Ben Moore is in charge and has brought many new ideas to this event. The web site is _www.springthing.info_ (http://www.springthing.info) South Eastern Classic will be held September 18-21 in Lynchburg TN. Fine dining and the scenic back roads of Middle Tennessee are on the agenda. The banquet will be held at the Jack Daniel's Distillery. The web site is _www.seclassic.com_ (http://www.seclassic.com) Thanks, Jim Werner Louisville, KY ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From rchaskell at earthlink.net Mon Nov 5 15:16:35 2007 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:16:35 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Save the Dates in ' 08 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <472F9643.9000904@earthlink.net> Do I sense a common thread? Jwhlyadv at aol.com wrote: > Springthing 2008 will be held May 18 - 20, 2008 in Central Kentucky. This > years event will be more of a driving tour of the historic distilleries and back > roads of Kentucky. Future 50 Founder Ben Moore is in charge and has brought > many new ideas to this event. > The web site is _www.springthing.info_ (http://www.springthing.info) > > South Eastern Classic will be held September 18-21 in Lynchburg TN. Fine > dining and the scenic back roads of Middle Tennessee are on the agenda. The > banquet will be held at the Jack Daniel's Distillery. > The web site is _www.seclassic.com_ (http://www.seclassic.com) From sjnnock at sbcglobal.net Mon Nov 5 17:30:30 2007 From: sjnnock at sbcglobal.net (Norman Nock) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 16:30:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] backup fuel pump polarity In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <631569.18067.qm@web83306.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Tom ... The new type SU fuel pump with a capacitor will work on pos. or neg. it is not polarity coscious, we stock them ... Norman Nock British Car Specialists . 2060 N Wilson Way . Stockton. Ca 94205 209-948-8767 FAX 209-948-1030 www.BritishCarSpecialists.com tech. questions David Nock healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Parts inquiry, Sheila Nock-Huggins britishcardoc at sbcglobal.net --- T W wrote: > I'd like to add a backup fuel pump to my BJ8. All > of the small pumps I've > seen state that they're for negative-ground cars, > and my car is a positive > ground car. > > If I get the polarity of the wiring right, does it > matter? Or am I going > to short something out thru the pump body? > > thanks, > > Tom > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From glemon at neb.rr.com Mon Nov 5 17:42:53 2007 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 18:42:53 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] backup fuel pump polarity References: <631569.18067.qm@web83306.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004601c8200d$f7525190$6401a8c0@toshibauser> I looked at the instructions for my plastic body Facet pump, the instructions say negative ground only, I would think reversing the wires would work, but it does have metal inlets and outlets for the fuel flow, don't know it these are potential short out points. Greg Lemon From healey.nut at gmail.com Mon Nov 5 18:45:05 2007 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 09:45:05 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] backup fuel pump polarity In-Reply-To: <004601c8200d$f7525190$6401a8c0@toshibauser> References: <631569.18067.qm@web83306.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <004601c8200d$f7525190$6401a8c0@toshibauser> Message-ID: the plastic bodied pumps are dual polarity. Actually, the old metal versions were dual polarity too. Those instructions are wrong, and were likely written by someone who didn't know better. Welcome to the modern world. Too much information is out there yet people don't know squat. Weird how the old days very little information was available but somehow the car parts guys knew what they were doing - maybe in the old days people learned by apprenticeship.... Alan On 11/6/07, Greg Lemon wrote: > I looked at the instructions for my plastic body Facet pump, the > instructions say negative ground only, I would think reversing the wires > would work, but it does have metal inlets and outlets for the fuel flow, > don't know it these are potential short out points. > > Greg Lemon From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Mon Nov 5 20:25:53 2007 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (James Shope) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 19:25:53 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] carb problem Message-ID: <00b001c82024$bc9e46a0$5201a8c0@Jim> have noticed that lately my fuel pump continues to click approx 1 click every 20-30 seconds or so and fuel is coming out the manifold drains. i have eliminated the needle valves as the problem. any idea of where to start looking? healeymanjim From healey.nut at gmail.com Mon Nov 5 21:03:28 2007 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 12:03:28 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] carb problem In-Reply-To: <00b001c82024$bc9e46a0$5201a8c0@Jim> References: <00b001c82024$bc9e46a0$5201a8c0@Jim> Message-ID: James - It can be the float jets if there is crud in there. You definitely have to make sure it is all clean. In addition the float lever needs to be set right. Finally if none of this works, it may be that you have a hole in your float(s) and the floats are filling up with gas. Pop the tops off the float chambers and if the brass float is sitting low in the gas, that's your problem. Take the float out and if there's any gas in them, then they need to be fixed / replaced. Alan On 11/6/07, James Shope wrote: > have noticed that lately my fuel pump continues to click approx 1 click every > 20-30 seconds or so and fuel is coming out the manifold drains. i have > eliminated the needle valves as the problem. any idea of where to start > looking? healeymanjim From rudedoggg at earthlink.net Mon Nov 5 22:11:59 2007 From: rudedoggg at earthlink.net (John Rued) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 23:11:59 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Lancaster, Ohio? Message-ID: <006501c82033$902d06b0$fca2e404@RUDEDOG> Any listers in the Lancaster Ohio area? Any listers in the Lancaster, Ohio area who'd consider checking on some bumpers that a guy--Tom Householder--is supposed to be making for a bunch of us listers? He seems to have dropped off the face of the earth... We'd appreciate any and all assistance... THX John Rued From jarowe at westnet.com.au Tue Nov 6 05:28:15 2007 From: jarowe at westnet.com.au (John Rowe) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 20:28:15 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] indicator lights blink too fast -- follow up References: <04c001c81b02$ba8f57e0$0200a8c0@DadP4> Message-ID: <01e301c82070$828cca30$0200a8c0@DadP4> Hi Guys Thanks to all who responded and offered advice. The outcome is that I now have correctly blinking indicators again. The problem was a combination of a poor earth and on the front left and some wear in the brake switch overriding relay. The relay was re gapped and as is well. The car is now completely ready for the Classic Adelaide Rally http://www.classicadelaide.com.au/ca07 and will be shipped out of Perth on Thursday. Ther are a total of 6 big Healeys in the event. Two in the Regularity and four in Competition. As per the norm here all in the Competition event are set up like Works Rally Cars with triple webers. Some have four wheel discs some don't. It's all great fun and driving a Healey as well. cheers from west oz John Rowe Perth 1959 3000 From wsthompson at thicko.com Tue Nov 6 06:11:25 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 07:11:25 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] SOS '07 the webcast part 1 Message-ID: <003e01c82076$8b63ea70$a22bbf50$@com> Hey y'all, The shop is just about cleaned up and SOS ready. For the past couple of days, I've had one of the webcams up and running from the back wall of the shop. Over the next couple of days, I'll be moving the camera around to get various shots and angles sorted out. If you're logged in to Yahoo Messenger, you should see in your friends list, and a little camera icon there. Click on that to view the webcam, and ping via instant message me to let me know how it looks. Perhaps by the weekend I'll have the audio hooked up so we can test "real time" questions. Here's how it works during SOS. If you've added to your Yahoo Messenger friends list, you'll be invited to a conference. In that conference, you as the viewer, and those of us in the shop, can write back and forth. You in the conference can view our webcam, and also hear the audio. If you have a microphone, you can also speak and be heard by conference participants and those of us in the shop. We cannot, however view your webcam. We also cannot participate in private instant message conversations while we're in the conference. OK? Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From wsthompson at thicko.com Tue Nov 6 06:30:34 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 07:30:34 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] SOS '07 the webcast part 2 Message-ID: <004401c82079$3a936910$afba3b30$@com> Part 2 During the broadcast, we'll have a laptop and camera rolling around the shop giving a variety of views of the various projects and people working on them. If you as the viewer want to take a closer look at something, just ask. There will be speakers in the shop so we can hear all the comments and smartassed remarks, and a mic so we can respond. About a dozen new viewers have added to their friends list over the last week. Get your Yahoo ID and download Yahoo Messenger from http://messenger.yahoo.com/. Add to your friends list. WST Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From jarowe at westnet.com.au Tue Nov 6 06:43:25 2007 From: jarowe at westnet.com.au (John Rowe) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 21:43:25 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] gearbox woes -- follow up Message-ID: <01f201c8207b$0197c910$0200a8c0@DadP4> Hi Guys Another thanks to the list for all who responded re my pieces of bronze in the overdrive filter. The problem was the bronze thrust washer(s) in the overdrive. They originally have small radial grooves cut into them and in my case a few of the segments created by the grooves decided they had had enough and dropped off. All that high speed changing into and outof overdrive in competition mode had its toll. The solution was a partial rebuild but what the heck, if you've got it apart you should do the complete job. Replaced the thrust washers, the gearbox synchros and surprisingly the first gear inner gear was the worse for wear. All that changing into first gear at speed up the windy bits. Obviously my double declutch technique into first gear need to be improved. Used Redline MT oil in the box and it seems a lot smoother but that could be the new synchro rings. I will do a follow up after the Classic Adelaide Rally. cheers from west oz John Rowe Perth 1959 3000 From bluechipracing at snet.net Tue Nov 6 07:01:45 2007 From: bluechipracing at snet.net (bluechip) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 09:01:45 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Classic Adelaide Rally References: <04c001c81b02$ba8f57e0$0200a8c0@DadP4> <01e301c82070$828cca30$0200a8c0@DadP4> Message-ID: <003901c8207d$91430af0$1f9bfea9@dell> Hi John: Best of luck in the Classic Adelaide Rally. We Healey folks in the USA will be rooting for you. Jim Smith East Hampton, CT, USA AUHC, 2005 ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Rowe" > The car is now completely ready for the Classic Adelaide Rally > http://www.classicadelaide.com.au/ca07 and will be shipped out of Perth > on > Thursday. Ther are a total of 6 big Healeys in the event. Two in the > Regularity and four in Competition. > > As per the norm here all in the Competition event are set up like Works > Rally Cars with triple webers. Some have four wheel discs some don't. > > It's all great fun and driving a Healey as well. > > cheers from west oz > > John Rowe > Perth > 1959 3000 > _______________________________________________ From wilko2 at cox.net Tue Nov 6 14:10:57 2007 From: wilko2 at cox.net (wilko2 at cox.net) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 13:10:57 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] carb problem In-Reply-To: <00b001c82024$bc9e46a0$5201a8c0@Jim> Message-ID: <20071106161057.AE0Z0.264888.root@fed1wml23.mgt.cox.net> The diaphrams on the main jets are a easy source for leaking. Many times that means a leak into the engine room. Flooding into the manifold is almost always the float valves (jets). How did you eliminate them as the problem? ---- James Shope wrote: > have noticed that lately my fuel pump continues to click approx 1 click every > 20-30 seconds or so and fuel is coming out the manifold drains. From ahbn6 at optonline.net Tue Nov 6 14:37:44 2007 From: ahbn6 at optonline.net (John Sims) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:37:44 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] carb problem In-Reply-To: <00b001c82024$bc9e46a0$5201a8c0@Jim> References: <00b001c82024$bc9e46a0$5201a8c0@Jim> Message-ID: <00bf01c820bd$448fed50$6500a8c0@simsoffice> You don't say which type of car you have. If it is a HD, it could be a bad diaphragm. Are you sure that it is coming out of the manifold drains? If your float jets are stuck, you will leak out of the float chamber overflow pipes. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of James Shope Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 10:26 PM To: healeys Subject: [Healeys] carb problem have noticed that lately my fuel pump continues to click approx 1 click every 20-30 seconds or so and fuel is coming out the manifold drains. i have eliminated the needle valves as the problem. any idea of where to start looking? healeymanjim From bluechipracing at snet.net Tue Nov 6 15:02:06 2007 From: bluechipracing at snet.net (bluechip) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 17:02:06 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] carb problem References: <00b001c82024$bc9e46a0$5201a8c0@Jim> <00bf01c820bd$448fed50$6500a8c0@simsoffice> Message-ID: <003001c820c0$ac2896d0$1f9bfea9@dell> Also, a leaking float needle or Grose jet could flood the bridge and allow fuel to come out of the manifold drains. I believe this is true for just about any SU Carb. Jim Smith ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Sims" To: "'healeys'" Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] carb problem > You don't say which type of car you have. If it is a HD, it could be a bad > diaphragm. Are you sure that it is coming out of the manifold drains? If > your float jets are stuck, you will leak out of the float chamber overflow > pipes. > > John Sims, BN6 > Aberdeen, NJ From donham1 at cox.net Tue Nov 6 15:07:30 2007 From: donham1 at cox.net (DHam) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 16:07:30 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] 63 BJ7 Water Pump Paint Color Message-ID: <5C5CB88658414DFAAA2FD869DF14637A@homegduh2nmgi0> Is the water pump paint color the same as the engine block color? If so would someone give me a color # and a source. Thanks DH From Ralph at cloverleaf-auto.com Tue Nov 6 15:26:57 2007 From: Ralph at cloverleaf-auto.com (Ralph Steinberg) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 17:26:57 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Turkey Bowl Message-ID: All, My apologies if you are receiving this more than once, or if you've already registered ... I just wanted to remind everyone on this list that you're invited to the 11th Annual Turkey Bowl at Summit Point (main course) on Thanksgiving weekend (Nov 23-25) -- and the earlybird discount deadline for Turkey Bowl entries is this Saturday, November 10th. Also, great news: the track has just been completely repaved! No more concrete patches, bumps or lumps. It's smooth as the proverbial baby's behind. If you enter & pay by Saturday it's only $250 for all three days! The entry form is attached, and also available on the VRG web site here: http://www.vrgonline.org/EVENTS/TURK/07TURKApp.pdf or go to www.vrgonline.org click on Events, then Turkey Bowl, and you'll find it there. You'll also find lots of useful information in the FAQ on the web site. If you've already sent your entry, tell your friends! We can always use a few more entries and we can accomodate nearly any car, vintage or modern, in either the VRG race groups or our partner's race groups. Hope to see you there! Mark Palmer VRG Event Chairman From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Nov 6 16:19:22 2007 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 07:19:22 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Classic Adelaide Rally In-Reply-To: <003901c8207d$91430af0$1f9bfea9@dell> References: <04c001c81b02$ba8f57e0$0200a8c0@DadP4> <01e301c82070$828cca30$0200a8c0@DadP4> <003901c8207d$91430af0$1f9bfea9@dell> Message-ID: Jim - In Oz "rooting" is something different than in the US, and frankly much more enjoyable! Yeehaw! Best - Alan On 11/6/07, bluechip wrote: > Hi John: Best of luck in the Classic Adelaide Rally. We Healey folks in > the USA will be rooting for you. > > Jim Smith > East Hampton, CT, USA > AUHC, 2005 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Rowe" > > > The car is now completely ready for the Classic Adelaide Rally > > http://www.classicadelaide.com.au/ca07 and will be shipped out of Perth > > on > > Thursday. Ther are a total of 6 big Healeys in the event. Two in the > > Regularity and four in Competition. > > > > As per the norm here all in the Competition event are set up like Works > > Rally Cars with triple webers. Some have four wheel discs some don't. > > > > It's all great fun and driving a Healey as well. > > > > cheers from west oz > > > > John Rowe > > Perth > > 1959 3000 > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > -- Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 From Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au Tue Nov 6 16:21:58 2007 From: Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au (Quinn, Patrick) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 10:21:58 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Classic Adelaide Rally In-Reply-To: References: <04c001c81b02$ba8f57e0$0200a8c0@DadP4><01e301c82070$828cca30$0200a8c0@DadP4><003901c8207d$91430af0$1f9bfea9@dell> Message-ID: <3CFB7014611C6F418B529D81EC0708C70169ED80@itfexch5.central.det.win> G'day Yes I'll be certainly keeping my back to the wall when all this is happening. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+patrick.quinn=det.nsw.edu.au at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+patrick.quinn=det.nsw.edu.au at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Alan Seigrist Sent: Wednesday, 7 November 2007 10:19 AM To: bluechip; Healey List; John Rowe; JOHNK, JEFF 03; champion, tom Subject: Re: [Healeys] Classic Adelaide Rally Jim - In Oz "rooting" is something different than in the US, and frankly much more enjoyable! Yeehaw! Best - Alan On 11/6/07, bluechip wrote: > Hi John: Best of luck in the Classic Adelaide Rally. We Healey folks in > the USA will be rooting for you. > > Jim Smith > East Hampton, CT, USA > AUHC, 2005 > ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From ahbn6 at optonline.net Tue Nov 6 17:49:10 2007 From: ahbn6 at optonline.net (John Sims) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:49:10 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Healey 6 Web Site Message-ID: <00c001c820d8$02d5cd10$6500a8c0@simsoffice> In view of the several recent emails on the Healey List about Rallys, Races, Events, etc. I have added a set of links to those of which I am aware. They can be found on the Links page after the listing of Clubs. If you know of any others that are annual events and/or have a "permanent" web site, please let me know and I will post a link for them also. If I am missing any clubs, please let me know. As usual, if there is something else that you wish to see on the site, I am open to suggestions. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ www.healey6.com From dwhite4949 at wowway.com Tue Nov 6 18:05:51 2007 From: dwhite4949 at wowway.com (Daniel and Diane White) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:05:51 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 4000 Message-ID: <47310F6F.1010304@wowway.com> Here is an interesting article I came across re the Austin-Healey 4000. http://www.ewilkins.com/wilko/ah4000.htm Dan White 1962 BN7 Mk II From richchrysler at quickclic.net Tue Nov 6 18:42:31 2007 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 20:42:31 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 63 BJ7 Water Pump Paint Color References: <5C5CB88658414DFAAA2FD869DF14637A@homegduh2nmgi0> Message-ID: <00df01c820df$766d0070$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> DH, The water pump colour will be the same as the rest of the engine, being Austin Healey engine green. The spray cans from Moss are a very good choice. Their part number is 220-550. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "DHam" To: Cc: "Deano" Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 5:07 PM Subject: [Healeys] 63 BJ7 Water Pump Paint Color > Is the water pump paint color the same as the engine block color? If so > would someone give me a color # and a source. > > Thanks > DH > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au Tue Nov 6 18:36:48 2007 From: Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au (Quinn, Patrick) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 12:36:48 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 4000 In-Reply-To: <47310F6F.1010304@wowway.com> References: <47310F6F.1010304@wowway.com> Message-ID: <3CFB7014611C6F418B529D81EC0708C70169ED86@itfexch5.central.det.win> G'day Dan Time has moved on a little since that article as John Gray no longer owns the car that's in Australia. Having driven the car I can vouch that it does need a little more oomph but it was a little like a Jaguar XJ6 that I once owned. Once you had it going it was a very quick car indeed. Too bad it didn't go into production especially with the DOHC cylinder head. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+patrick.quinn=det.nsw.edu.au at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+patrick.quinn=det.nsw.edu.au at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Daniel and Diane White Sent: Wednesday, 7 November 2007 12:06 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 4000 Here is an interesting article I came across re the Austin-Healey 4000. http://www.ewilkins.com/wilko/ah4000.htm Dan White 1962 BN7 Mk II ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From wilko2 at cox.net Tue Nov 6 18:41:53 2007 From: wilko2 at cox.net (Eric (Rick) Wilkins) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 17:41:53 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 4000 In-Reply-To: <3CFB7014611C6F418B529D81EC0708C70169ED86@itfexch5.central.det.win> References: <47310F6F.1010304@wowway.com> <3CFB7014611C6F418B529D81EC0708C70169ED86@itfexch5.central.det.win> Message-ID: <73C05082-D161-4E25-85CC-5731DE0B7CCD@cox.net> Hey... I'm wilko. I put that up years ago... It's loosely part of my Healey Site http://www.ewilkins.com/wilko Wilko San Diego On Nov 6, 2007, at 5:36 PM, Quinn, Patrick wrote: > G'day Dan > > Time has moved on a little since that article as John Gray no longer > owns the car that's in Australia. > > Having driven the car I can vouch that it does need a little more > oomph > but it was a little like a Jaguar XJ6 that I once owned. Once you > had it > going it was a very quick car indeed. > > Too bad it didn't go into production especially with the DOHC cylinder > head. > > Hoo Roo > > Patrick Quinn > Sydney, Australia > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces+patrick.quinn=det.nsw.edu.au at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces > +patrick.quinn=det.nsw.edu.au at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Daniel and Diane White > Sent: Wednesday, 7 November 2007 12:06 PM > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 4000 > > Here is an interesting article I came across re the Austin-Healey > 4000. > > http://www.ewilkins.com/wilko/ah4000.htm > > Dan White > 1962 BN7 Mk II > ********************************************************************** > This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain > privileged information or confidential information or both. If you > are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. > ********************************************************************** > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Tue Nov 6 21:38:02 2007 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (James Shope) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 20:38:02 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] carb problem/oil problem Message-ID: <005001c820f7$fb61ca00$5201a8c0@Jim> do not know exactly what happened, since all i did was switch the tops of my bj8 carbs with the tops of the bn6, but problems seems to be solved. will watch it close for the next few days for signs of a relapse. HOWEVER, now have much more serious problem on bj8. for about a week i have noticed that the oil pressure really got low when oil heats up. it did not come on gradual. i have been watching it close to see if i can hear any knocks, etc. just changed oil recently, but no oil loss, no water in oil, etc. today i took off and noticed that oil pressure had busted right by the 60 psi mark where it normally stops when oil is cold. i immedietly let off on gas and needle fluctuated wildly. kept rpm down until oil warmed up, then everything appeared to be normal for a while, then oil pressure dropped much lower than normal when idling. i suspect an oil regulator problem, maybe a broken spring or ball unseated. any other ideas i can ruminate on. healeymanjim From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Nov 6 21:53:06 2007 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 12:53:06 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] carb problem/oil problem In-Reply-To: <005001c820f7$fb61ca00$5201a8c0@Jim> References: <005001c820f7$fb61ca00$5201a8c0@Jim> Message-ID: Jim - Sounds to me like you have air in your oil pressure sensor line. Try unhooking the oil pressure guage and turn the motor over a couple of times to work the air out and then put it back together.. Alan. On 11/7/07, James Shope wrote: > do not know exactly what happened, since all i did was switch the tops of my > bj8 carbs with the tops of the bn6, but problems seems to be solved. will > watch it close for the next few days for signs of a relapse. HOWEVER, now have > much more serious problem on bj8. for about a week i have noticed that the > oil pressure really got low when oil heats up. it did not come on gradual. i > have been watching it close to see if i can hear any knocks, etc. just > changed oil recently, but no oil loss, no water in oil, etc. today i took off > and noticed that oil pressure had busted right by the 60 psi mark where it > normally stops when oil is cold. i immedietly let off on gas and needle > fluctuated wildly. kept rpm down until oil warmed up, then everything > appeared to be normal for a while, then oil pressure dropped much lower than > normal when idling. i suspect an oil regulator problem, maybe a broken spring > or ball unseated. any other ideas i can ruminate on. healeymanjim > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > -- Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 From rwil at sbcglobal.net Tue Nov 6 22:22:01 2007 From: rwil at sbcglobal.net (rwil at sbcglobal.net) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 05:22:01 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Oil problem Message-ID: <2113445287-1194412956-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-160111978-@bxe119.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Alan wrote: Sounds to me like you have air in your oil pressure sensor line. Try unhooking the oil pressure guage and turn the motor over a couple of times to work the air out ----------------------- Be prepared for some oil to squirt out of that little pipe with some volume and force. A sharp eye and sacrificial rag are helpful. In other words, take your original carvel carpeting out before trying this You can imagine how I learned this -Roland Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From rinussinke at planet.nl Wed Nov 7 01:26:52 2007 From: rinussinke at planet.nl (Rinus Sinke) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:26:52 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Meets Le Mans Message-ID: <7991C7BBFE3349728305113874C61349@PCvanSinke> Dear members of the list, For those who are interested in Healeys at the famous circuit of Le Mans in France, look at the website www.healeymeetslemans . You find here also an event organised in 2008 by Hans van de Kerkhof and Rinus Sinke for the Dutch Healey Competitions, competition department of the Austin Healey Owners Club Nederland. See you on the track Big Healey racingdriver Rinus Sinke Rinus Sinke Rijksweg Zuid 20 6031RL Nederweert The Netherlands 0031495632707 0031495585972 fax 0031653196210 mob. From rinussinke at planet.nl Wed Nov 7 01:48:33 2007 From: rinussinke at planet.nl (Rinus Sinke) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:48:33 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Meets Le mans Message-ID: A little mistake about Healey Meets Le Mans: the adress of the website is www.healeymeetslemans.nl Rinus Sinke Rinus Sinke Rijksweg Zuid 20 6031RL Nederweert The Netherlands 0031495632707 0031495585972 fax 0031653196210 mob. rinussinke at planet.nl From dthall at btinternet.com Wed Nov 7 02:29:35 2007 From: dthall at btinternet.com (D HALL) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:29:35 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Healeys] Soft top bows Message-ID: <490299.19958.qm@web86410.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Dear listers Does anyone have a photograph or line drawing of the soft bow spa arrangement that was used on the early BN4 ? The configuration is that described on page 122 of messers Anderson and Moment restoration guide, but alas is not very clear. The hood bow I have is in pieces and would obviously like to reassemble correctly. Many thanks David David Hall From scott at scottjgraham.com Wed Nov 7 04:25:57 2007 From: scott at scottjgraham.com (Scott J Graham) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 22:25:57 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] BILL BOLTON - SCUTTLE BRACING PHOTO Message-ID: <009401c82130$f959d520$0200a8c0@yourpdnds2yigt> Bill Can you please forward me the pic referenced below. My tranny cover is off and I would like to make this adjustment in the next couple of days. Thanks Jon, I had the pleasure of discussing this phenomenon at length with Geoff Healey. He says that the vibration frequency of the box frame and the interior body panels are not the same. They come together for a harmonic frequency at about 55 MPH. Jensen spot welded the interior body to the frame, thus it is not a solid structure with the frame. The phenomenon gets worst in the later Healeys as Jensen increased the spacing of the spot welds to save costs. The solution, that I have found is to weld 1/2" x 1/2" angle iron on the inside of the transmission opening extending the angle iron down and welded onto the box frame. This ties the inner body to the frame making it one vibration entity. I have attached a photo of the installation outlining the angle iron in red. Bill Bolton No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.23/1114 - Release Date: 6/11/2007 8:05 PM From wsthompson at thicko.com Wed Nov 7 05:27:30 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 06:27:30 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] BMC Sprite wheels wanted Message-ID: <003401c82139$92f5e4a0$b8e1ade0$@com> Hey y'all, I'm looking for a set of BMC wheels for the restoration of the Elliott Forbes Robinson Bugeye. The car is pictured here. http://www.caranddriver.com/features/11372/sport-renaissance-man.html I realize these wheels are scarce. Any leads on finding a set of these is appreciated. WST Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From wsthompson at thicko.com Wed Nov 7 05:49:48 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 06:49:48 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] SOS '07 remote participants Message-ID: <004601c8213c$b0202470$10606d50$@com> Good morning, So far 139 folks have added to their Yahoo messenger friends list. how cool is that? You can watch the webcam broadcast from the comfort of your home or office while 20 or so of us slave away on 4 or 5 SOS projects. If you want to chime in with remarks or questions of those of us working, you'll need a microphone. We'll hear you, and be able to reply. I encourage you to try out your audio connections well in advance of the event. We will have limited time to help you with tech support the day of the event. We will NOT be able to view your cameras. so, if you want to view SOS '07 naked from the waist down. that's your business. (Not that there's anything wrong with that.) The best set up is a headphone/microphone deal. available for under $15 at Best Buy, etc. Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From wsthompson at thicko.com Wed Nov 7 06:41:59 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 07:41:59 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] [Spridgets] BMC Sprite wheels wanted In-Reply-To: <002d01c82141$deac8c20$c7a1bf46@personal> References: <003401c82139$92f5e4a0$b8e1ade0$@com> <002d01c82141$deac8c20$c7a1bf46@personal> Message-ID: <009201c82143$fa9e1a50$efda4ef0$@com> To clarify... these are not a stock wheel, but an alloy wheel used by the Works and the BMC competition department on their factory race cars. I'm sure they were also available to the public, but in limited supply. -----Original Message----- From: Jack Laird [mailto:jlaird237 at cox.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 7:27 AM To: Wm. Severin Thompson; spridgets at autox.team.net; mgs at autox.team.net; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BMC Sprite wheels wanted I see Bugeye wheels on eBay quite frequently, in fact that is where mine came from. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" To: ; ; Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 6:27 AM Subject: [Spridgets] BMC Sprite wheels wanted > Hey y'all, > > > > I'm looking for a set of BMC wheels for the restoration of the Elliott > Forbes Robinson Bugeye. The car is pictured here. > > http://www.caranddriver.com/features/11372/sport-renaissance-man.html > > > > I realize these wheels are scarce. Any leads on finding a set of these is > appreciated. > > > > WST From mgcharlie at comcast.net Wed Nov 7 08:33:03 2007 From: mgcharlie at comcast.net (Charlie Baldwin) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:33:03 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] paint color for fan shroud and water bottle bracket on bj8 In-Reply-To: <013e01c81b53$a8341440$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> References: <013e01c81b53$a8341440$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> Message-ID: <4731DAAF.1000901@comcast.net> Hey, while this is being flogged to death, I haven't noticed a comment about the fan shroud originally being brush painted. Is this true? Thanks. Charlie Rich C wrote: >Hi Bill, > >I know we've flogged this thing far too long, but for those of us who look >at this list every day and try to help where we can, I can assure you there >are some questions that pop up about every 3 or 4 weeks. Thank goodness we >have an archive or I'm sure we'd be wading through these common questions a >lot more than we do now. >As for answering the rad shroud paint colour, "Chinese Red" may be different >depending on brand of paint and regional availability. Here in Canada we >have a brand of paint called "Tremclad" and I use their Chinese Red. Close >enough, and I'm a Concours judge. >As for the washer bottle bracket for BJ8's I use a Walmart paint called >"Just Enough" in the color "Blue Planet" in a small shaker can. Again, I've >heard feedback from others stating they can't find that in their regional >stores. > >Rich Chrysler From f.ronald.rader at gmail.com Wed Nov 7 09:11:52 2007 From: f.ronald.rader at gmail.com (F. Ronald Rader) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 08:11:52 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] paint color for fan shroud and water bottle bracket on bj8 In-Reply-To: <4731DAAF.1000901@comcast.net> References: <013e01c81b53$a8341440$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> <4731DAAF.1000901@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5caeedb50711070811o66767378rac25fddaf6486aa4@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 7, 2007 7:33 AM, Charlie Baldwin wrote: > Hey, while this is being flogged to death, I haven't noticed a comment > about the fan shroud originally being brush painted. Is this true? YES THEY WERE ALWAYS BRUSH PAINTED. RON RADER PLAYA DEL REY CA 1967 BJ8 From bbb11489 at azboss.net Wed Nov 7 09:28:45 2007 From: bbb11489 at azboss.net (Russ Staub) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:28:45 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] BILL BOLTON - SCUTTLE BRACING PHOTO Message-ID: <4731E7BD.3010002@azboss.net> Bill, If it isn't allready there, perhaps this photo could be put on John Sims web site for all of us to see. Russ Staub '56 BN2 '67 BJ8 "61 Bugeye "This ties the inner body to the frame making it one vibration entity. I have attached a photo of the installation outlining the angle iron in red." Bill Bolton From ourxke at hotmail.com Wed Nov 7 11:51:12 2007 From: ourxke at hotmail.com (Ken Wignall) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 13:51:12 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Painting and fitting body panels Message-ID: I have reached the point of restoration of a BT7 restoration where the fenders and both shrouds are stripped and primed and ready for painting. The undersides will now be finished and painted, but we are trying to decide whether to final paint the outer sides of the panels prior to assembly or after fitting them. Alternatively, finishing both sides of the fenders now but not final paint the outer sides of the shrouds until they are fitted. Any advice from others that have already done this? We are using Dupont 2 stage base/clear system. _________________________________________________________________ Boo! Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare! http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=wl_hotmailne ws From dthall at btinternet.com Wed Nov 7 14:57:50 2007 From: dthall at btinternet.com (D HALL) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 21:57:50 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Healeys] Soft Top bows Message-ID: <386075.39480.qm@web86406.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Thanks to everybody especially Jim and Brian, problem resolved (I hope) David Hall From varley at cosmos.net.au Wed Nov 7 15:30:00 2007 From: varley at cosmos.net.au (Larry Varley) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 09:30:00 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] [Fwd: Re: Austin-Healey 4000] Message-ID: <47323C68.5010703@cosmos.net.au> Last time I looked the car was under restoration at the Healey Factory in Melbourne, I thought it was pretty ugly in the flesh especially from the rear with the very wide short tail and trunk lid, and the interior was nowhere near as good looking as the earlier cars. Definitely a prototype if you looked at how the car was constructed! Cheers Larry Varley From wsthompson at thicko.com Wed Nov 7 15:15:36 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 16:15:36 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] [Fwd: Re: Austin-Healey 4000] In-Reply-To: <47323C68.5010703@cosmos.net.au> References: <47323C68.5010703@cosmos.net.au> Message-ID: <012301c8218b$bb5352f0$31f9f8d0$@com> Roger Menadue took me to Trebah to see the garage where he finished those cars. -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Varley Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 4:30 PM To: Healeys Subject: [Healeys] [Fwd: Re: Austin-Healey 4000] Last time I looked the car was under restoration at the Healey Factory in Melbourne, I thought it was pretty ugly in the flesh especially from the rear with the very wide short tail and trunk lid, and the interior was nowhere near as good looking as the earlier cars. Definitely a prototype if you looked at how the car was constructed! Cheers Larry Varley From Editorgary at aol.com Wed Nov 7 16:23:52 2007 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 18:23:52 EST Subject: [Healeys] Brush-painting the fan shroud Message-ID: In a message dated 11/7/07 11:02:22 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > On Nov 7, 2007 7:33 AM, Charlie Baldwin wrote: > > Hey, while this is being flogged to death, I haven't noticed a comment > > about the fan shroud originally being brush painted. Is this true? > YES THEY WERE ALWAYS BRUSH PAINTED. > RON RADER > PLAYA DEL REY CA > Imagine an apprentice stationed somewhere down towards the end of the line past where the radiator has been installed in the car, with a pot of red paint in his hand. My bet is that he tried to do the entire job in on motion on each car by loading his brush with the right amount of paint and then swiping it once across the top of the fan shroud. In other words, it don't need to be done too good. Cheers gary ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From dwhite4949 at wowway.com Wed Nov 7 16:24:25 2007 From: dwhite4949 at wowway.com (Daniel and Diane White) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 18:24:25 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Meets Le mans In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47324929.8060103@wowway.com> Thank you to Rinus for the link to this great site. Browse through the historical photos and history of the Healey cars at Le mans. If we could only reproduce the sounds... > A little mistake about Healey Meets Le Mans: the adress of the website is > www.healeymeetslemans.nl > Rinus Sinke > > Rinus Sinke > Rijksweg Zuid 20 > 6031RL Nederweert > The Netherlands > 0031495632707 > 0031495585972 fax > 0031653196210 mob. > rinussinke at planet.nl > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au Wed Nov 7 17:45:52 2007 From: sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au (sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 11:45:52 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Sprite Wheels Message-ID: <1194482752.47325c403e1e4@webmail.hotkey.net.au> The wheels I have seen have the name HEALEY cast into them and they are made of magnesium which does not age very well unles treated very carefully. These wheels were,IMHO, arranged by Healeys and may not have been made in large numbers or widely distributed. They were fitted toworks cars from 1965 - 68 on say 10 cars plus spares? Magnesium may not be sound enough to race on today but they sure look great as display wheels. Good hunting Joe From ynotink at msn.com Wed Nov 7 18:21:06 2007 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 01:21:06 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Classic Adelaide Rally In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >In Oz "rooting" is something different than in the US, and frankly >much more enjoyable! Yeehaw! > Might depend on whether you are the rooter or the rootie... From haywoodone at hotmail.com Wed Nov 7 20:52:02 2007 From: haywoodone at hotmail.com (George Haywood) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 22:52:02 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Painting and fitting body panels Message-ID: Ken, My vote would be to final paint after assembly of the external panels is complete. You can then loosen the fender fasteners and slip in the beading. Overspray can be avoided by a meticulous back taping/papering the engine compartment, doorways, boot opening, lights and grill openings, etc., and taping a squirt around the bottom to the floor to protect the chassis. Attached are some pictures of our tape job, hope they help. I have read somewhere, I think Larry Varley's 100 restoration site, that he suggested painting after assembly due to some problems he ran in to by painting first and then assembling the fenders and shrouds. Check out his web site page 22-- it's very good. Good luck, George '65 bj8 Ken Wignal writes: "we are trying to decide whether to final paint the outer sides of the panels prior to assembly or> after fitting them." _________________________________________________________________ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks & Treats for You! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg] From haywoodone at hotmail.com Wed Nov 7 21:07:12 2007 From: haywoodone at hotmail.com (George Haywood) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 23:07:12 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Painting and fitting body panels Message-ID: OOPS, I didn't mean for you to tape a "squirt" around the bottom of your car. You couldn't get a hold of one to tape it. It would be easier to tape a SKIRT around the bottom to protect the chassis. You could use the squirt when it comes time to pull some of the front fender bead tabs and bend them over. George > From: haywoodone at hotmail.com> To: ourxke at hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 22:52:02 -0500> CC: healeys at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Painting and fitting body panels> >" taping a squirt around the bottom to the floor to protect the chassis."> _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts! Play Star Shuffle: the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_oct From pryner at verizon.net Wed Nov 7 21:11:15 2007 From: pryner at verizon.net (Peter Ryner) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 23:11:15 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Painting and fitting body panels In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I recommend fitting the panels, then loosen enough to fit the beading in about a 1/2" Retighten the panels to hold the beading in place above the panels and so that the panels line up. Tape the exposed beading and spray. After it is dry, you can just loosen the bolts and slide the beading home. The panel remains very close to its final position, you're able to paint the edge of all of the panels except where the tabs are postitioned, and there is no chance of chipping the paint trying to get all of the tabs inserted between the panels. Overspray on the tabs is no problem as they are not exposed and it is easy to fully cover the exposed beading with tape but not get the tape too close to the panels. Worked for me Pete -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+pryner=verizon.net at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+pryner=verizon.net at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of George Haywood Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 10:52 PM To: Ken Wignall Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Painting and fitting body panels Ken, My vote would be to final paint after assembly of the external panels is complete. You can then loosen the fender fasteners and slip in the beading. Overspray can be avoided by a meticulous back taping/papering the engine compartment, doorways, boot opening, lights and grill openings, etc., and taping a squirt around the bottom to the floor to protect the chassis. Attached are some pictures of our tape job, hope they help. I have read somewhere, I think Larry Varley's 100 restoration site, that he suggested painting after assembly due to some problems he ran in to by painting first and then assembling the fenders and shrouds. Check out his web site page 22-- it's very good. Good luck, George '65 bj8 Ken Wignal writes: "we are trying to decide whether to final paint the outer sides of the panels prior to assembly or> after fitting them." ___ From jmnewt at comcast.net Wed Nov 7 21:59:41 2007 From: jmnewt at comcast.net (JACK NEWTON) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 21:59:41 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Battery Chemistry Message-ID: <004b01c821c4$2c5b80c0$ffa8474b@D5YQ8431> I have an unusual situation with the positive battery terminal as it connects to the ground cable on my recently restored BN-2. Over a few months the helmet terminal grows a very thick cover of bright blue-green corrosion (looks like mold) which gets up to 3/8 inch thick. I have had to clean this much off on at least 2 occasions. Any ideas on what could cause or prevent this? I use the green and red felt discs on all terminals and 3 stay clean but the problem persists on this one! Jack From Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au Wed Nov 7 22:04:19 2007 From: Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au (Quinn, Patrick) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 16:04:19 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Battery Chemistry In-Reply-To: <004b01c821c4$2c5b80c0$ffa8474b@D5YQ8431> References: <004b01c821c4$2c5b80c0$ffa8474b@D5YQ8431> Message-ID: <3CFB7014611C6F418B529D81EC0708C70169EDA9@itfexch5.central.det.win> G'day Jack A light smear of petroleum jelly over the helmet terminal should keep it away. Just don't put it between the battery post and lead end as it will stop the conduction of smoke throughout the electrical system. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+patrick.quinn=det.nsw.edu.au at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+patrick.quinn=det.nsw.edu.au at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of JACK NEWTON Sent: Thursday, 8 November 2007 4:00 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Battery Chemistry I have an unusual situation with the positive battery terminal as it connects to the ground cable on my recently restored BN-2. Over a few months the helmet terminal grows a very thick cover of bright blue-green corrosion (looks like mold) which gets up to 3/8 inch thick. I have had to clean this much off on at least 2 occasions. Any ideas on what could cause or prevent this? I use the green and red felt discs on all terminals and 3 stay clean but the problem persists on this one! Jack ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From dcongleton at embarqmail.com Thu Nov 8 06:07:00 2007 From: dcongleton at embarqmail.com (Dallas Congleton) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 08:07:00 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Battery Chemistry References: <004b01c821c4$2c5b80c0$ffa8474b@D5YQ8431> Message-ID: <005201c82208$404efbe0$0201a8c0@your4dacd0ea75> There is a leak in the top sealant around the post, allowing the vapor to come up around the terminal. You may be able to seal it with silicone. Dallas 1967 BJ8 ----- Original Message ----- From: "JACK NEWTON" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 11:59 PM Subject: [Healeys] Battery Chemistry >I have an unusual situation with the positive battery terminal as it > connects to the ground cable on my recently restored BN-2. Over a few > months the helmet terminal grows a very thick cover of bright blue-green > corrosion (looks like mold) > which gets up to 3/8 inch thick. I have had to clean this much off on at > least 2 occasions. Any ideas on what could cause or prevent this? I use > the green and red felt discs on all terminals and 3 stay clean but the > problem persists on this one! > Jack > _______________________________________________ From dwhite4949 at wowway.com Thu Nov 8 06:11:57 2007 From: dwhite4949 at wowway.com (Daniel and Diane White) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 08:11:57 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Healey Meets Le mans In-Reply-To: <20071108022343.MUP19750.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> References: <20071108022343.MUP19750.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> Message-ID: <47330B1D.4080605@wowway.com> Tom, After entering the site, click on the Union Jack icon and it should open up in English. Dan Were you able to get this in English? It would not convert to English for me. I do understand a little Dutch, but wanted it in english. > > tom > >> From: Daniel and Diane White >> Date: 2007/11/07 Wed PM 05:24:25 CST >> To: healeys at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey Meets Le mans >> >> Thank you to Rinus for the link to this great site. Browse through the >> historical photos and history of the Healey cars at Le mans. If we >> could only reproduce the sounds... >> >>> A little mistake about Healey Meets Le Mans: the adress of the website is >>> www.healeymeetslemans.nl >>> Rinus Sinke >>> >>> Rinus Sinke >>> Rijksweg Zuid 20 >>> 6031RL Nederweert >>> The Netherlands >>> 0031495632707 >>> 0031495585972 fax >>> 0031653196210 mob. >>> rinussinke at planet.nl >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From richchrysler at quickclic.net Thu Nov 8 08:04:58 2007 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 10:04:58 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Painting and fitting body panels References: Message-ID: <023d01c82218$bbc94b30$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> After having gone through this process many times and trying all the methods others suggest, we have found the best method is to be carefully painting all panels inside and out off the car, hung from the ceiling and anchored to the floor so things can't move. All fasteners, body brackets, etc. are laid out and painted seperately too. Then all panels are carefully installed for the final time on the already assembled and detailed rolling chassis assembly. Fender beading is applied as the panels are installed. Surprisingly, the issue of scratching while handling has really not been an issue as we had expected. The biggest advantage to all this is being able to keep all body shop dust and any possible overspray issues completely away from the clean and detailed chassis assembly. It is amazing how dust can find its way into and all over absorbent items like wiring harness cloth loom and air ducts. Once in there it's almost impossible to effectively clean. This "panels off" paining method also saves about 30 hours of painstaking masking and sealing of the car required if the panels are done on the car. It should be stressed that the outer body panels and all associated hardware have already been fitted and proven out before painting so minimal fussing and struggling will be required to final install the freshly painted panels. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Wignall" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 1:51 PM Subject: [Healeys] Painting and fitting body panels >I have reached the point of restoration of a BT7 restoration where the >fenders > and both shrouds are stripped and primed and ready for painting. The > undersides will now be finished and painted, but we are trying to decide > whether to final paint the outer sides of the panels prior to assembly or > after fitting them. Alternatively, finishing both sides of the fenders now > but > not final paint the outer sides of the shrouds until they are fitted. Any > advice from others that have already done this? We are using Dupont 2 > stage > base/clear system. From jstmorris at yahoo.com Thu Nov 8 09:59:49 2007 From: jstmorris at yahoo.com (J. Scott Morris) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 11:59:49 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Healeys] Bill Bolton - Scuttle Bracing Photo In-Reply-To: <4731E7BD.3010002@azboss.net> Message-ID: <806922.74422.qm@web30308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> An article and pictures done by Bill Bolton and Keith Pennell can be found at: http://www.britishcarweek.org/scuttle.html A copy is also attached for Russ Staub and Scott Graham. Enjoy!! --Scott Morris, Simcoe, Ontario, Canada Russ Staub wrote: << Bill, If it isn't allready there, perhaps this photo could be put on John Sims web site for all of us to see. >> Scott J Graham wrote: << Bill; Can you please forward me the pic referenced below. ...... >> Bill Bolton wrote: << I had the pleasure of discussing this phenomenon at length with Geoff Healey.  I have attached a photo of the installation outlining the angle iron in red. >> J. Scott Morris - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives --------------------------------- Instant message from any web browser! Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger for the Web BETA [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/msword which had a name of Scuttle shake article.doc] From loftusdesign at cox.net Thu Nov 8 12:15:17 2007 From: loftusdesign at cox.net (John Loftus) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:15:17 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Painting and fitting body panels Message-ID: <47336045.80402@cox.net> Like Rich, we decided to paint all the body panels off the car, inside and out and re-assembly carefully to the painted chassis. However, a major difference was that I then assembled all the mechanical parts after all the painting was done. Some of this was dictated by the schedule of the body shop and motor assembly but a concern was the wet sanding/buffing which could stain and dust damage the wiring harness/air ducts/etc. I've always wondered what people do to protect from potential wet sanding and buffing residue on an assembled car like the Healey that is not very water-tight? We had a lot of cleaning up to do on the frame/chassis after this step. Cheers, John From loftusdesign at cox.net Thu Nov 8 13:04:09 2007 From: loftusdesign at cox.net (John Loftus) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 12:04:09 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Brush-painting the fan shroud Message-ID: <47336BB9.7020703@cox.net> ... Or imagine someone who has been doing this job hundreds if not thousands of times. They start getting really really good at it .. paint thinned just right, right size of brush, skill at knowing just the right loading on the brush and knowing how to lay it on. They make it look very very easy to do (like a good finish painter doing trim work) because they have the skill but not so easy for the 'first timer'. Cheers, John From Kendall.Freese at aerojet.com Thu Nov 8 14:01:03 2007 From: Kendall.Freese at aerojet.com (Freese, Ken) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 13:01:03 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Wanted plastic headlight buckets Message-ID: <1B3BD9CCDD89084C9CC405C3258017F501ED420A@SACMAIL1.aerojet.gencorp.local> Anybody know where I can get 5 3/4 inch plastic repro headlight buckets for a quad light English car? Ken Freese 65 Healey 3000 From insptwo at msn.com Thu Nov 8 15:17:21 2007 From: insptwo at msn.com (insptwo at msn.com) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 17:17:21 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] FW: HOW THE FIGHT STARTED, early friday funny Message-ID: >HOW THE FIGHT STARTED > >I rear-ended a car this morning. > >So there we are alongside the road and slowly the driver gets out of the >car. . . and you know how you just-get-sooo-stressed and life-stuff >seems to get funny? > >Yeah, well, I could NOT believe it . . . he was a DWARF! > >He storms over to my car, looks up at me and says, 'I AM NOT HAPPY!' >So, I look down at him and say, 'Well, which one are you then?' > >.. . and that's when the fight started . . . From pennell at cox.net Thu Nov 8 16:05:46 2007 From: pennell at cox.net (pennell at cox.net) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 18:05:46 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Road and Track mags Message-ID: <20071108180546.3Z47O.346858.root@eastrmwml10> Listers, I have Road and Track mags available. Would like to see them go to a loving home. January 1988 through Dec 2000. All in VG to Exc shape. There may be a couple missing. Stack is 40 or so inches high. First $50 plus shipping from 23602 gets them! No I am not sure of the weight. Keith Pennell From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Nov 8 16:28:40 2007 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 07:28:40 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Brush-painting the fan shroud In-Reply-To: <47336BB9.7020703@cox.net> References: <47336BB9.7020703@cox.net> Message-ID: Murphy's Law says I got the car made the day that chap was on vacation. On 11/9/07, John Loftus wrote: > ... > > Or imagine someone who has been doing this job hundreds if not thousands of > times. > > They start getting really really good at it .. paint thinned just right, > right size > of brush, skill at knowing just the right loading on the brush and knowing > how to lay it on. They make it look > very very easy to do (like a good finish painter doing trim work) because > they have the skill but not so easy for the 'first timer'. > > Cheers, > John > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > -- Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 From ahbn6 at optonline.net Thu Nov 8 16:34:42 2007 From: ahbn6 at optonline.net (John Sims) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 18:34:42 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Brush-painting the fan shroud In-Reply-To: References: <47336BB9.7020703@cox.net> Message-ID: <01d601c8225f$f056ff90$6500a8c0@simsoffice> Or came back after having a pint or two at the pub. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ www.healey6.com Murphy's Law says I got the car made the day that chap was on vacation. On 11/9/07, John Loftus wrote: > ... > > Or imagine someone who has been doing this job hundreds if not thousands of > times. > > They start getting really really good at it .. paint thinned just right, > right size > of brush, skill at knowing just the right loading on the brush and knowing > how to lay it on. They make it look > very very easy to do (like a good finish painter doing trim work) because > they have the skill but not so easy for the 'first timer'. > > Cheers, > John > _______________________________________________ From varley at cosmos.net.au Thu Nov 8 17:12:23 2007 From: varley at cosmos.net.au (Larry Varley) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 11:12:23 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 frame Message-ID: <4733A5E7.2050604@cosmos.net.au> Guys A friend has a BJ8 that has a completely rotten frame and superstructure. It would be a huge amount of work to fix, the rust is so bad that even all the wheel arches are rotten. SC parts in England say they can supply a new frame and superstructure assembly primed and ready to paint for about $15000.00. They say they build them at their plant in England and have so far made 18. Most have been sent to America. Is there any experience out there on this as to build quality and dimensional accuracy? For the interest of the group they also insist that they are made in England and not India as some rumours suggest. Any feedback would be appreciated Cheers Larry Varley Austin Healey 100 Restoration Site www.acmefluid.com.au/larry/ From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Thu Nov 8 16:55:33 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 17:55:33 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Brush-painting the fan shroud References: <47336BB9.7020703@cox.net> Message-ID: <01a001c82262$da307f90$6601a8c0@actualshop> <> Why Alan, you shroud white???? Enquiring minds NEED to kn.......!! er, never mind!! LOL Anon From shop at justbrits.com Thu Nov 8 17:25:44 2007 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 18:25:44 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 frame References: <4733A5E7.2050604@cosmos.net.au> Message-ID: <025e01c82267$11d0c690$6601a8c0@actualshop> <> Larry: Personally, I would do some SERIOUS investigation into Kilmartin!! Please see: In "Various Articles" at www.justbrits.com , John Rued's BN-2 frame pics!! IIRC, he did NOT pay anywhere near that number. Also pretty sure he is a List Member?!?! Ed Pretty sure John From loftusdesign at cox.net Thu Nov 8 17:28:33 2007 From: loftusdesign at cox.net (John Loftus) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:28:33 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Brush-painting the fan shroud In-Reply-To: <01d601c8225f$f056ff90$6500a8c0@simsoffice> References: <47336BB9.7020703@cox.net> <01d601c8225f$f056ff90$6500a8c0@simsoffice> Message-ID: <4733A9B1.1000903@cox.net> I knew someone would have a good tip/suggestion! John Sims wrote: > Or came back after having a pint or two at the pub. > > John Sims, BN6 > Aberdeen, NJ > > www.healey6.com > > Murphy's Law says I got the car made the day that chap was on vacation. From ah1006 at verizon.net Thu Nov 8 17:56:52 2007 From: ah1006 at verizon.net (Tom Simkins) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 16:56:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Painting and fitting body panels In-Reply-To: <023d01c82218$bbc94b30$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> Message-ID: <243080.67257.qm@web84110.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Rich, Do you wet sand and buff the panels off of the chassis also prior to assembly? Thanks, Tom Rich C wrote: we have found the best method is to be carefully painting all panels inside and out off the car, From richchrysler at quickclic.net Thu Nov 8 18:25:59 2007 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 20:25:59 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 frame References: <4733A5E7.2050604@cosmos.net.au> Message-ID: <02de01c8226f$7cc66470$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> I cannot personally comment on the product from SC made available in recent years. I would however caution a buyer about purchasing a chassis assembly complete with wheel arches, bulkheads, and all superstructure at arms length. There are a lot of critical dimensional areas where all the exterior body panels, trim pieces, etc. need to be able to fit correctly and well. With the known variables in panel fit of one Healey to the next, it's almost a certainy that there will be fitting issues. I have seen and experienced chassis and superstructure assemblies that were purchased and then the restorer had to try to struggle his way through the fitting up of all the rest of the car after the fact. Grrrrr!!! We have been having some really positive experiences in using Kilmartin's basic chassis assembly, transferring all the old superstructure over to the new chassis and replacing metal as needed. The outer body panels are present and are repaired as needed at the same time and in this way the fit of everything is guaranteed. True, not for the inexperienced or the faint of heart, but a truly excellent end result. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Varley" To: "Healeys" Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 7:12 PM Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 frame > Guys > A friend has a BJ8 that has a completely rotten frame and > superstructure. It would be a huge amount of work to fix, the rust is so > bad that even all the wheel arches are rotten. SC parts in England say > they can supply a new frame and superstructure assembly primed and ready > to paint for about $15000.00. They say they build them at their plant in > England and have so far made 18. Most have been sent to America. Is > there any experience out there on this as to build quality and > dimensional accuracy? For the interest of the group they also insist > that they are made in England and not India as some rumours suggest. Any > feedback would be appreciated > Cheers > Larry Varley From varley at cosmos.net.au Thu Nov 8 18:47:19 2007 From: varley at cosmos.net.au (Larry Varley) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 12:47:19 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 frame In-Reply-To: <025e01c82267$11d0c690$6601a8c0@actualshop> References: <4733A5E7.2050604@cosmos.net.au> <025e01c82267$11d0c690$6601a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <4733BC27.4050906@cosmos.net.au> Ed I know the Kilmartins very well ( seeing as I look after their web site! ), and have one of their frames for my 3000. The quality is excellent, however they cannot supply a complete frame and superstructure assembly, and do not make all of the parts to construct one, in particular the wheel arches which would have to be sourced out of England. The labor cost to repair the existing frame is about $12000.00 plus parts, and that only includes replacing the front half of the chassis rails, as the car has also had a major accident in the past, and has a lot of rust in the front and rear bulkheads, floors sills, you name it, it's rusty. Cheers Larry shop at justbrits.com wrote: ><assembly primed and ready to paint for about $15000.00. >> > >Larry: > >Personally, I would do some SERIOUS investigation into Kilmartin!! > >Please see: In "Various Articles" at www.justbrits.com , John Rued's BN-2 >frame pics!! > >IIRC, he did NOT pay anywhere near that number. Also pretty sure he is a List >Member?!?! > >Ed > >Pretty sure John >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >Healeys at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From richchrysler at quickclic.net Thu Nov 8 18:31:08 2007 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 20:31:08 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Painting and fitting body panels References: <243080.67257.qm@web84110.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <02e701c82270$348d82f0$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> Tom, Yes, the outer panels are completely painted and finished off the car, then very carefully final assembled to the car. I should point out that if the car is to be two toned, the lower portion of the panels are painted off the car, the panels are temporarily assembled to the car, the tape line is established, then the panels are removed, the balance of the lower portion is completely taped off and the uper portions are painted, again, individually off the car. Rich Chrysler From: "Tom Simkins" Subject: Re: [Healeys] Painting and fitting body panels > Rich, > Do you wet sand and buff the panels off of the chassis also prior to > assembly? > Thanks, > Tom > > Rich C wrote: > we have found the best method is to be carefully painting > all panels inside and out off the car, From varley at cosmos.net.au Thu Nov 8 20:36:08 2007 From: varley at cosmos.net.au (Larry Varley) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 14:36:08 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 frame In-Reply-To: <02de01c8226f$7cc66470$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> References: <4733A5E7.2050604@cosmos.net.au> <02de01c8226f$7cc66470$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> Message-ID: <4733D5A8.5030406@cosmos.net.au> Hi Rich I agree with your comments, and if I was restoring the car I would fix the existing unit. Things are different when you are paying someone else, and one has to look at all the options. As a matter of interest Kilmartins can supply their frame with a centre web welded between the two halves of each main rail effectively creating a double box section in each of the main rails. Looks the same from the outside plus a significant increase in strength. Cheers Larry Rich C wrote: > I cannot personally comment on the product from SC made available in > recent years. I would however caution a buyer about purchasing a > chassis assembly complete with wheel arches, bulkheads, and all > superstructure at arms length. There are a lot of critical dimensional > areas where all the exterior body panels, trim pieces, etc. need to be > able to fit correctly and well. With the known variables in panel fit > of one Healey to the next, it's almost a certainy that there will be > fitting issues. > > I have seen and experienced chassis and superstructure assemblies that > were purchased and then the restorer had to try to struggle his way > through the fitting up of all the rest of the car after the fact. > Grrrrr!!! > > We have been having some really positive experiences in using > Kilmartin's basic chassis assembly, transferring all the old > superstructure over to the new chassis and replacing metal as needed. > The outer body panels are present and are repaired as needed at the > same time and in this way the fit of everything is guaranteed. True, > not for the inexperienced or the faint of heart, but a truly excellent > end result. > > Rich Chrysler > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Varley" > To: "Healeys" > Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 7:12 PM > Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 frame > > >> Guys >> A friend has a BJ8 that has a completely rotten frame and >> superstructure. It would be a huge amount of work to fix, the rust is so >> bad that even all the wheel arches are rotten. SC parts in England say >> they can supply a new frame and superstructure assembly primed and ready >> to paint for about $15000.00. They say they build them at their plant in >> England and have so far made 18. Most have been sent to America. Is >> there any experience out there on this as to build quality and >> dimensional accuracy? For the interest of the group they also insist >> that they are made in England and not India as some rumours suggest. Any >> feedback would be appreciated >> Cheers >> Larry Varley From sjnnock at sbcglobal.net Thu Nov 8 20:36:24 2007 From: sjnnock at sbcglobal.net (Norman Nock) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 19:36:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Battery Chemistry In-Reply-To: <004b01c821c4$2c5b80c0$ffa8474b@D5YQ8431> Message-ID: <234565.22846.qm@web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Jack ... lf your battery is old the generator is trying to fully charge the battery and it can't , so it's gassing to much ... replace your batteries li your generator out-put is too high this will cause the battery to gas ... check you open voltage circuit ...15.8 to 16.4 volts more info on page 96 and see index under Lucas regulator in my Tech Talk book Norman Nock --- JACK NEWTON wrote: > I have an unusual situation with the positive > battery terminal as it > connects to the ground cable on my recently restored > BN-2. Over a few > months the helmet terminal grows a very thick cover > of bright blue-green > corrosion (looks like mold) > which gets up to 3/8 inch thick. I have had to > clean this much off on at > least 2 occasions. Any ideas on what could cause or > prevent this? I use > the green and red felt discs on all terminals and 3 > stay clean but the > problem persists on this one! > Jack > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From rudedoggg at earthlink.net Thu Nov 8 21:39:19 2007 From: rudedoggg at earthlink.net (John Rued) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 22:39:19 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 frame References: <4733A5E7.2050604@cosmos.net.au> <025e01c82267$11d0c690$6601a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <003f01c8228a$7f3c0410$e0a2e404@RUDEDOG> I paid about 5K (US) for the frame and shipping. I used the original superstructure. Bottomline: I have a (new) frame virtually indistinguishable from the original that mates up very well with all the original inner/outer panels. Good folks to deal with. JR > < assembly primed and ready to paint for about $15000.00. >> > > Larry: > > Personally, I would do some SERIOUS investigation into Kilmartin!! > > Please see: In "Various Articles" at www.justbrits.com , John Rued's BN-2 > frame pics!! > > IIRC, he did NOT pay anywhere near that number. Also pretty sure he is a > List > Member?!?! > > Ed > > Pretty sure John From gardner5 at comcast.net Thu Nov 8 22:00:17 2007 From: gardner5 at comcast.net (gardner5 at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 05:00:17 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Two tone paint Message-ID: <110920070500.7426.4733E9610003C45900001D0222070206539D0A020B9D0E090A0B0106@comcast.net> I'm restoring my 100M to as close to original as possible. I'm at the point of paint and will be using a single stage. The car will be painted OE White and Black (white being the main color with black being the lower body color). My question is: Should the car be painted white and then have black applied over the top (a slight ridge will exist at the black-white interphase)...I want to do it like it was done originally. Thank you, Joel 100M From hypercubic at yahoo.co.uk Fri Nov 9 00:33:10 2007 From: hypercubic at yahoo.co.uk (mike brooks) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 23:33:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Re - Wanted plastic headlight buckets Message-ID: <24636.13130.qm@web34205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Ken, www.s-v-c.co.uk Select "lights" from the home page. 24UKP for the pair. These people are great to deal with. They specialise in british car electrics and ship overseas no problem. Rgds Mike Brooks 56 BN2 Milano Italy Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 13:01:03 -0800 From: "Freese, Ken" Subject: [Healeys] Wanted plastic headlight buckets To: Message-ID: <1B3BD9CCDD89084C9CC405C3258017F501ED420A at SACMAIL1.aerojet.gencorp.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Anybody know where I can get 5 3/4 inch plastic repro headlight buckets for a quad light English car? Ken Freese 65 Healey 3000 From clocks at midcoast.com Fri Nov 9 06:04:18 2007 From: clocks at midcoast.com (James Lea) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 08:04:18 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] New England Classic Car Co. Message-ID: <011101c822d1$09cc6ac0$0201a8c0@JIM> Has anyone had dealings with the New England Classic Car Co? How is there reputation? Thanks, JL James Lea PO Box 25 Rockport Maine 04856 1-207-236-3632 1951 Triumph Renown 1952 MG TD 1952 Triumph Mayflower 1958 Rover P4 1962 Austin Healey BT7 From peter at nosimport.com Fri Nov 9 10:09:43 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 11:09:43 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Trunion camber quesry In-Reply-To: <011101c822d1$09cc6ac0$0201a8c0@JIM> References: <011101c822d1$09cc6ac0$0201a8c0@JIM> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071109110743.03820b90@nosimport.com> What would the effect of a shorter front shock arm, say 3/16 per arm, be on the camber of a Healey. Would it be desirable for anyone? Thanks Peter C From rinussinke at planet.nl Fri Nov 9 11:41:39 2007 From: rinussinke at planet.nl (Rinus Sinke) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 19:41:39 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] "Healey Meets Le Mans" Message-ID: <12DB19B96D0341FA8DF9701C886F40D9@PCvanSinke> Dear members of the list, In my website www.healeymeetslemans.nl there was an error in the guestbook. If you try to write a message in my guestbook than do it again and your message is to see for everyone. See you on my website Rinus Sinke, organization "Healey Meets Le Mans 2008" Rinus Sinke Rijksweg Zuid 20 6031RL Nederweert The Netherlands 0031495632707 0031495585972 fax 0031653196210 mob. rinussinke at kpnplanet.nl From Editorgary at aol.com Fri Nov 9 12:56:44 2007 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 14:56:44 EST Subject: [Healeys] Two-tone Paint Message-ID: I'm restoring my 100M to as close to original as possible. I'm at the point of paint and will be using a single stage. The car will be painted OE White and Black (white being the main color with black being the lower body color). My question is: Should the car be painted white and then have black applied over the top (a slight ridge will exist at the black-white interphase)...I want to do it like it was done originally. Thank you, Joel 100M Joel, When the cars were painted in the two-tone 100M color scheme, the second ("cove" color) was added after the car was fully painted, and often was painted by the dealer. Consequently, if you wanted to do it "as it was done originally" you would paint the whole car, then mask off the top and spray the cove, which would allow you to feel the ridge as you stroke down across the feature line. However, most painters will tell you that the break will be less perceptible if you paint the cove first, then mask it and paint the remainder of the doors and fenders in the main body color. Incidentally, because of the variety of places these cars were painted, we've never been able to say whether the break show be at the top or bottom of the feature line, but most folks paint it with the break at the bottom of the feature line. Good luck, Gary ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Fri Nov 9 14:26:16 2007 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Leonard Hartnett) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 13:26:16 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] It's Friday Message-ID: <6EFB5BF85CCC48AFBA6F68729DE98027@LeonardPC> OK! It's Friday HERE! I'm sure that no one on The List would have a need for this ;-) but if you have acquaintances that have a tendency to exceed the speed limit occasionally, you may want to pass it on to them: http://www.speedtrap.org/speedtraps/stetlist.asp And remember, life is simpler when you plow around the stump. (The Other) Len Vacaville, California, USA 1967 3000 MKIII, HBJ8L39031 From amalin at mac.com Fri Nov 9 15:57:56 2007 From: amalin at mac.com (Al Malin) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 17:57:56 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] It's Friday In-Reply-To: <6EFB5BF85CCC48AFBA6F68729DE98027@LeonardPC> References: <6EFB5BF85CCC48AFBA6F68729DE98027@LeonardPC> Message-ID: <2EEC9EEB-8495-4FB0-ADF5-64DE9C6B6C05@mac.com> Was passing through Schoolcraft, Michigan one day when I saw the cop leaning against a building with his radar gun. Just had to turn around and take a photo. http://tricarb.com/gallery/potpourri/IMG_1103 Al Malin tricarb On Nov 9, 2007, at 4:26 PM, Leonard Hartnett wrote: > OK! It's Friday HERE! > > I'm sure that no one on The List would have a need for this ;-) but > if you > have acquaintances that have a tendency to exceed the speed limit > occasionally, you may want to pass it on to them: > http://www.speedtrap.org/speedtraps/stetlist.asp > > And remember, life is simpler when you plow around the stump. > > (The Other) Len > Vacaville, California, USA > 1967 3000 MKIII, HBJ8L39031 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From scthomton at yahoo.com Fri Nov 9 16:16:32 2007 From: scthomton at yahoo.com (Steve Thomton) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 15:16:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] AH Gauge faces available in UK?? Message-ID: <353329.65791.qm@web50607.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I was talking to Margaret today....aka. MO MA .... regarding restoration of my AH gauges....the silver/gold style......net, net......she said she had heard that someone in the UK was making a replace face for the silver/gold guages. So is this just a rumor??....or is someone making a high quality replacement face for these difficult to restore gauges?....or is this just a rumor? .... inquiring minds want to know. Thanks, Steve Thomton Larkspur, CO 1963 BJ7 Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From trhouse at greenapple.com Fri Nov 9 17:21:53 2007 From: trhouse at greenapple.com (Tom Householder) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 19:21:53 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Forest City. Illinois Message-ID: Loking for history on Forest City Foriegn Car probably fifty and sixties era???? From magnuskarlsson at bornet.net Fri Nov 9 19:22:41 2007 From: magnuskarlsson at bornet.net (Magnus Karlsson) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 03:22:41 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] AH Gauge faces available in UK?? In-Reply-To: <353329.65791.qm@web50607.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <353329.65791.qm@web50607.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <936EB420-AA5C-410A-B021-5BB636F23833@bornet.net> www.ahspares.co.uk Online catalogue, instruments, INS161. Magnus Karlsson Sweden 10 nov 2007 kl. 00.16 skrev Steve Thomton: > I was talking to Margaret today....aka. MO MA .... regarding > restoration of my AH gauges....the silver/gold style......net, > net......she said she had heard that someone in the UK was making a > replace face for the silver/gold guages. So is this just a > rumor??....or is someone making a high quality replacement face for > these difficult to restore gauges?....or is this just a rumor? .... > inquiring minds want to know. > > Thanks, > Steve Thomton > Larkspur, CO > 1963 BJ7 From linwoodrose at mac.com Fri Nov 9 20:06:15 2007 From: linwoodrose at mac.com (linwood rose) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 22:06:15 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BT7 arm rest Message-ID: Rich, Any tips on installing the arm rest in the carpet? It is my last step in finishing the interior. Lin 1960 BT7 in restoration 1959 Bugeye From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Fri Nov 9 20:17:28 2007 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (James Shope) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 19:17:28 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] gauge faces Message-ID: <004001c82348$391739a0$5201a8c0@Jim> i have an old british car specialists catalog of hard to find parts and they are listed in there. might check with norm. healeymanjim From mayorrichard at hotmail.com Fri Nov 9 20:44:42 2007 From: mayorrichard at hotmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 03:44:42 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Trunion camber quesry In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20071109110743.03820b90@nosimport.com> References: <011101c822d1$09cc6ac0$0201a8c0@JIM> <7.0.1.0.2.20071109110743.03820b90@nosimport.com> Message-ID: The effect of shortened arms on the front shocks would be to change the camber from positive camber towards negative camber. Since every frame is slightly different (and they are not always the same on both side), its hard to say exactley what a 3/16th inch change would make. My off the cuff guess is that you would get about a 2 to 3 degree change. You need to use a camber guage to see exactly what you have after you bend the arms. For racing you would like a bit of negative camber. Depending on the particular Healey race car - somewhere in the neighborhood of one to 1 1/2 degrees of negative camber. For the street, I would suggest zero camber. Richard Mayor, 1959 BN7 vintage Racer #466 > Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 11:09:43 -0600> To: healeys at autox.team.net> From: peter at nosimport.com> Subject: [Healeys] Trunion camber quesry> > What would the effect of a shorter front shock arm, say 3/16 per arm, > be on the camber of a Healey.> > Would it be desirable for anyone?> > Thanks> Peter C> _______________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > Healeys at autox.team.net> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts! Play Star Shuffle: the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_oct From mgtrcars at galaxyinternet.net Fri Nov 9 21:03:11 2007 From: mgtrcars at galaxyinternet.net (Mark and Kathy) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 23:03:11 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Cockpit Insulating revisited Message-ID: <001801c8234e$ab732350$d587e004@markl946cfrd7q> Gary Anderson had a nice article in the Moss Motor Mag. this latest issue and brought up some great tips and ideas on insulating our Healeys. One question that comes to my mind is the installation of the Dynamat products. I believe that Gary was referring to the non adhesive backed Dynamat and suggested applying glue to the foil side and gluing it to the floor to help reflect heat away from the cockpit and this makes complete sense. But what about the Dynamat Extreme that goes on with the foil side up and the tar surface down. Isn't this product defeating the purpose of reflecting the heat away from the cockpit? What would the use of the foil backing be in this case? Mark From mgtrcars at galaxyinternet.net Fri Nov 9 21:26:19 2007 From: mgtrcars at galaxyinternet.net (Mark and Kathy) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 23:26:19 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Fender Bead Idea Message-ID: <002d01c82351$d98e6490$d587e004@markl946cfrd7q> As I was comparing the MGA to the Healey the other day I was looking at the similarities between the 2 vehicles. One thing that was interesting was that MG used plastic (non corrosive) fender beading, while Healey used polished metal. Has anyone tried the plastic (black or silver/grey) on the Healeys in hope that it may offer a little extra protection between the fender flanges where the different metals come together. The plastic beading is about an inch and a half wide so they would cover the flanges quite thoroughly. I'll let you know how it works. (not original of course, but should work OK). Mark From healey.nut at gmail.com Fri Nov 9 21:27:22 2007 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:27:22 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Cockpit Insulating revisited In-Reply-To: <001801c8234e$ab732350$d587e004@markl946cfrd7q> References: <001801c8234e$ab732350$d587e004@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: Mark - Actually I have nothing but great respect for Gary Anderson but in this case he is wrong. Foil works as a radiative reflector of heat. If you glue it face down on the metal floorpan, you will be negating any reflective value of the foil - you will simply be attaching the foil to the floor and adding the foil mass to the floor pan's conduction of heat. FYI I'm a Mechanical Engineer and heat transfer is something we study a great deal in university. If you are installing the dynamat inside the car, you should have the foil side up - it will act as the final radiative reflective barrier because of the air in the closed cell foam in Dynamat and dynamat's non conductive properties, in effect reflecting the heat back through the foam and through the floor pan. The best way to attach the dynamat will be one of two ways: 1) Inside the cockpit - foil side up 2) Even better - attach it underneath the floor pan with foil side down - this will help prevent your floor pan from getting hot in the first place. Regards, Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Nov 10, 2007 12:03 PM, Mark and Kathy wrote: > Gary Anderson had a nice article in the Moss Motor Mag. this latest issue and > brought up some great tips and ideas on insulating our Healeys. One question > that comes to my mind is the installation of the Dynamat products. > > I believe that Gary was referring to the non adhesive backed Dynamat and > suggested applying glue to the foil side and gluing it to the floor to help > reflect heat away from the cockpit and this makes complete sense. > > But what about the Dynamat Extreme that goes on with the foil side up and the > tar surface down. Isn't this product defeating the purpose of reflecting the > heat away from the cockpit? > What would the use of the foil backing be in this case? > > Mark From healey.nut at gmail.com Fri Nov 9 21:32:23 2007 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:32:23 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Fender Bead Idea In-Reply-To: <002d01c82351$d98e6490$d587e004@markl946cfrd7q> References: <002d01c82351$d98e6490$d587e004@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: Mark - On my A90 it uses rubber beading. It is actually quite attractive (it sits flush) so if I had a modified Healey that's what I'd use for sure. Alan On 11/10/07, Mark and Kathy wrote: > As I was comparing the MGA to the Healey the other day I was looking at the > similarities between the 2 vehicles. > > One thing that was interesting was that MG used plastic (non corrosive) > fender beading, while Healey used polished metal. > > Has anyone tried the plastic (black or silver/grey) on the Healeys in hope > that it may offer a little extra protection between the fender flanges where > the different metals come together. The plastic beading is about an inch > and > a half wide so they would cover the flanges quite thoroughly. > > I'll let you know how it works. (not original of course, but should work > OK). > > Mark > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > -- Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 From f.ronald.rader at gmail.com Fri Nov 9 22:02:49 2007 From: f.ronald.rader at gmail.com (F. Ronald Rader) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 21:02:49 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Cockpit Insulating revisited In-Reply-To: <001801c8234e$ab732350$d587e004@markl946cfrd7q> References: <001801c8234e$ab732350$d587e004@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: <5caeedb50711092102s5acedb58hff7bf2ea1cf041b5@mail.gmail.com> personally i like using both Dynamat AND Cool mat on both my Healey and my E type FHC. i have also used it in my 1988 Blazer and will use it in my new Nash Healey, soon to arrive in LA. ron rader On Nov 9, 2007 8:03 PM, Mark and Kathy wrote: > Gary Anderson had a nice article in the Moss Motor Mag. this latest issue and > brought up some great tips and ideas on insulating our Healeys. One question > that comes to my mind is the installation of the Dynamat products. > > I believe that Gary was referring to the non adhesive backed Dynamat and > suggested applying glue to the foil side and gluing it to the floor to help > reflect heat away from the cockpit and this makes complete sense. > > But what about the Dynamat Extreme that goes on with the foil side up and the > tar surface down. Isn't this product defeating the purpose of reflecting the > heat away from the cockpit? > What would the use of the foil backing be in this case? > > Mark > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeybruce at roadrunner.com Fri Nov 9 22:50:27 2007 From: healeybruce at roadrunner.com (Healey Bruce) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 21:50:27 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Cockpit Insulating revisited References: <001801c8234e$ab732350$d587e004@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: <005e01c8235d$98aceee0$9101a8c0@home> Dynamat is a good material when redoing an interior, but for someone who already has carpet fitted and the thickness of Dynamat would be a problem, I would like to suggest an alternative I found. Fiberfrax is a ceramic cloth insulation, used commonly in aviation. Pilots out there may be familiar with it. It provides excellent insulating properties up to something like 2000 degrees. I have 1/2" thick batting "insulation" under my carpet, which basically provides zero heat insulation. I put 1/16" Fiberfrax cloth under the batting, using 3M trim adhesive ("yellow snot") on the vertical surfaces of the foot well and 3 sides for bell housing area. I also insulated the back side of the bell housing cover. Because it is only 1/16", all the carpet snaps in no problem. You buy it by the foot, 24" wide, which, coincidentally, is just about perfect for the foot wells and floor pan. I bought it from Aircraft Spruce and Specialty (http://www.aircraftspruce.com/). About $50 worth would do both sides. Bruce Steele 1960 BN7 Brea, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark and Kathy" To: Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 8:03 PM Subject: [Healeys] Cockpit Insulating revisited > Gary Anderson had a nice article in the Moss Motor Mag. this latest issue > and > brought up some great tips and ideas on insulating our Healeys. One > question > that comes to my mind is the installation of the Dynamat products. > > I believe that Gary was referring to the non adhesive backed Dynamat and > suggested applying glue to the foil side and gluing it to the floor to > help > reflect heat away from the cockpit and this makes complete sense. > > But what about the Dynamat Extreme that goes on with the foil side up and > the > tar surface down. Isn't this product defeating the purpose of reflecting > the > heat away from the cockpit? > What would the use of the foil backing be in this case? > > Mark > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com Fri Nov 9 23:50:50 2007 From: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com (Richard Collins) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 22:50:50 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Fender Bead Idea In-Reply-To: References: <002d01c82351$d98e6490$d587e004@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: I have black rubber beading on my BN7. Looks good against the old Ivory color. Richard of KY/CA _________________________________________________________________ Boo! Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare! http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=wl_hotmailne ws From sbyers at ec.rr.com Sat Nov 10 06:28:15 2007 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8Healeys) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 05:28:15 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Forest City. Illinois In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi, Tom - Forest City Imported Cars, Ltd., 4518 West State Street, Rockford, IL. Dealers in MG, Magnette, Morris, Riley, Austin, and Austin-Healey. The dealership was enfranchised by S.H. Arnolt, Inc. (BMC Distributor), 2130 North Lincoln Avenue, Chicago 14, IL The info above comes from: Distributors and Dealers in North America for products of The British Motor Corporation, Ltd. The publication is undated, but it must come from at least prior to the implementation of Zip Codes on 1 July 1963. Hope that helps. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Tom Householder Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 4:22 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Forest City. Illinois Loking for history on Forest City Foriegn Car probably fifty and sixties era???? From price at advocateadvisors.com Sat Nov 10 06:51:24 2007 From: price at advocateadvisors.com (price at advocateadvisors.com) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 13:51:24 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Cockpit Insulating revisited In-Reply-To: <001801c8234e$ab732350$d587e004@markl946cfrd7q> References: <001801c8234e$ab732350$d587e004@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: Mark - Your point is good but I installed the Extreme berfoe Conclave thjis summer and regardless of foil up or foil doiwn, the product is VERY effective. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "Mark and Kathy" Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 23:03:11 To: Subject: [Healeys] Cockpit Insulating revisited Gary Anderson had a nice article in the Moss Motor Mag. this latest issue and brought up some great tips and ideas on insulating our Healeys. One question that comes to my mind is the installation of the Dynamat products. I believe that Gary was referring to the non adhesive backed Dynamat and suggested applying glue to the foil side and gluing it to the floor to help reflect heat away from the cockpit and this makes complete sense. But what about the Dynamat Extreme that goes on with the foil side up and the tar surface down. Isn't this product defeating the purpose of reflecting the heat away from the cockpit? What would the use of the foil backing be in this case? Mark _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From mgtrcars at galaxyinternet.net Sat Nov 10 06:51:45 2007 From: mgtrcars at galaxyinternet.net (Mark and Kathy) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 08:51:45 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Cockpit Insulating revisited References: <001801c8234e$ab732350$d587e004@markl946cfrd7q> <005e01c8235d$98aceee0$9101a8c0@home> Message-ID: <000c01c823a0$e5744140$ef87e004@markl946cfrd7q> Thats very inexpensive compared to the $199.00 I paid for a box of Dyn. Extreme to cover my car. I may put the remaining sheets on the inside of the bell housing cover as you suggested. I just hope the tarry , sticky side will stand up to the heat generated in there. I will probably be long gone before that becomes a problem. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Healey Bruce" To: "Mark and Kathy" ; Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 12:50 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Cockpit Insulating revisited > Dynamat is a good material when redoing an interior, but for someone who > already has carpet fitted and the thickness of Dynamat would be a problem, > I would like to suggest an alternative I found. Fiberfrax is a ceramic > cloth insulation, used commonly in aviation. Pilots out there may be > familiar with it. It provides excellent insulating properties up to > something like 2000 degrees. I have 1/2" thick batting "insulation" under > my carpet, which basically provides zero heat insulation. I put 1/16" > Fiberfrax cloth under the batting, using 3M trim adhesive ("yellow snot") > on the vertical surfaces of the foot well and 3 sides for bell housing > area. I also insulated the back side of the bell housing cover. Because > it is only 1/16", all the carpet snaps in no problem. You buy it by the > foot, 24" wide, which, coincidentally, is just about perfect for the foot > wells and floor pan. I bought it from Aircraft Spruce and Specialty > (http://www.aircraftspruce.com/). About $50 worth would do both sides. > > Bruce Steele > 1960 BN7 > Brea, CA From sbyers at ec.rr.com Sat Nov 10 07:03:10 2007 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8Healeys) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 06:03:10 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Cockpit Insulating revisited In-Reply-To: <000c01c823a0$e5744140$ef87e004@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: I paid about $3.00 for enough 1/4-inch thick double-sided aluminized mylar faced bubble-wrap insulation to insulate the whole cockpit, including both sides of the transmission tunnel. Bought at my local home improvement store and glued in (everywhere except the floors) with Weldwood Contact Cement in 1999. It's still in perfect shape, with no loose edges (I just had the tranny cover off to work on the overdrive). Together with sealing the firewall leaks and replacing the seals on the fiberglass cover, this eliminated the cockpit heat problem. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Mark and Kathy Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 5:52 AM To: Healey Bruce; healeys at Autox.Team.Net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Cockpit Insulating revisited Thats very inexpensive compared to the $199.00 I paid for a box of Dyn. Extreme to cover my car. I may put the remaining sheets on the inside of the bell housing cover as you suggested. I just hope the tarry , sticky side will stand up to the heat generated in there. I will probably be long gone before that becomes a problem. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Healey Bruce" To: "Mark and Kathy" ; Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 12:50 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Cockpit Insulating revisited > Dynamat is a good material when redoing an interior, but for someone who > already has carpet fitted and the thickness of Dynamat would be a problem, > I would like to suggest an alternative I found. Fiberfrax is a ceramic > cloth insulation, used commonly in aviation. Pilots out there may be > familiar with it. It provides excellent insulating properties up to > something like 2000 degrees. I have 1/2" thick batting "insulation" under > my carpet, which basically provides zero heat insulation. I put 1/16" > Fiberfrax cloth under the batting, using 3M trim adhesive ("yellow snot") > on the vertical surfaces of the foot well and 3 sides for bell housing > area. I also insulated the back side of the bell housing cover. Because > it is only 1/16", all the carpet snaps in no problem. You buy it by the > foot, 24" wide, which, coincidentally, is just about perfect for the foot > wells and floor pan. I bought it from Aircraft Spruce and Specialty > (http://www.aircraftspruce.com/). About $50 worth would do both sides. > > Bruce Steele > 1960 BN7 > Brea, CA Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.23/1114 - Release Date: 11/6/2007 8:05 PM From bluechipracing at snet.net Sat Nov 10 08:02:26 2007 From: bluechipracing at snet.net (bluechip) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:02:26 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BT7 arm rest References: Message-ID: <001e01c823aa$b5341140$1f9bfea9@dell> I believe it was originally sewn to the carpet covering the tunnel. I sewed velcro strips to the carpet and to the underneath of the armrest, making it easy to remove and install, and more important provides a little adjustment to get it centered between the seats. Jim Smith ----- Original Message ----- From: "linwood rose" To: "C Rich" Cc: "Healeys" Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 10:06 PM Subject: [Healeys] BT7 arm rest > Rich, > Any tips on installing the arm rest in the carpet? It is my last step > in finishing the interior. > Lin > 1960 BT7 in restoration > 1959 Bugeye > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From BJ8Healey at msn.com Sat Nov 10 08:28:13 2007 From: BJ8Healey at msn.com (James Sailer) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 08:28:13 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Heater BJ8 Message-ID: Morning folks, Seems my heater started leaking yesterday .. too bad as it is great cool driving here in Idaho .. (with snow on the way this week) .. maybe one of the last weekends ... So .. although I had my heater out when I did the nut-and-bolt resto on my car, I took it out with the dash removed etc .. and now the extraction repair will be a little more cumbersome .. I am not sure if the leak is heater, or control valve or gasket ... so I was going to investigate this afternoon with a mirror but am not sure I will see the leak ... is it just as easy to remove the whole unit and then pressure test? .. I am assuming that changing the heater control valve (if that is the culprit) is a job best done with the heater out anyway .. Any list wisdom would be appreciated. Jim Sailer 66 BJ8 From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Nov 10 10:11:51 2007 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 09:11:51 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Heater BJ8 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4735E657.9020902@comcast.net> Hi Jim, I've done this, many moons ago. It's a PITA--working under the dash is one of my least favorite jobs--but it's doable. You'll have to pull the console. I doubt you'll able to isolate the leak without having the heater out, and if you could you'd probably have to pull the heater anyway to fix it. I'd replace everything replaceable whilst you have it out, including the hoses if they're more than a couple years old. bs James Sailer wrote: > Morning folks, > > Seems my heater started leaking yesterday .. too bad as it is great cool > driving here in Idaho .. (with snow on the way this week) .. maybe one of the > last weekends ... > > So .. although I had my heater out when I did the nut-and-bolt resto on my > car, I took it out with the dash removed etc .. and now the extraction repair > will be a little more cumbersome .. > > I am not sure if the leak is heater, or control valve or gasket ... so I was > going to investigate this afternoon with a mirror but am not sure I will see > the leak ... is it just as easy to remove the whole unit and then pressure > test? .. I am assuming that changing the heater control valve (if that is the > culprit) is a job best done with the heater out anyway .. > > Any list wisdom would be appreciated. > > Jim Sailer > > 66 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > -- *************************************************************** Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net '67 Austin-Healey 3000 '56 Austin-Healey 100M *************************************************************** From helyjohn at cablespeed.com Sat Nov 10 10:45:58 2007 From: helyjohn at cablespeed.com (John Snyder) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 09:45:58 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] BT7 arm rest References: <001e01c823aa$b5341140$1f9bfea9@dell> Message-ID: <003101c823c1$90c97040$f030eb42@FRED> I position the arm rest on the carpet, mark the outline w/ chalk, and take the carpet & arm rest to a person w/ a "walking foot" sewing machine. She makes boat covers and canvas things for boats. This machine runs a seam on the little flange at the base of the arm rest. Works great. John Snyder Port Townsend, WA >I believe it was originally sewn to the carpet covering the tunnel. I >sewed > velcro strips to the carpet and to the underneath of the armrest, making > it > easy to remove and install, and more important provides a little > adjustment > to get it centered between the seats. > > Jim Smith > >> Any tips on installing the arm rest in the carpet? It is my last step >> in finishing the interior. >> Lin From NPaul72464 at aol.com Sat Nov 10 12:50:28 2007 From: NPaul72464 at aol.com (NPaul72464 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 14:50:28 EST Subject: [Healeys] BT7 arm rest Message-ID: I installed my arm rest with adhesive velcro about 10 years ago and it's stayed with no problem. Ned Paulsen 1960 BN7 ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From Editorgary at aol.com Sat Nov 10 12:59:24 2007 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 14:59:24 EST Subject: [Healeys] This Side Up Message-ID: In a message dated 11/9/07 10:52:37 PM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > If you are installing the dynamat inside the car, you should have the > foil side up - it will act as the final radiative reflective barrier > because of the air in the closed cell foam in Dynamat and dynamat's > non conductive properties, in effect reflecting the heat back through > the foam and through the floor pan. > I stand corrected...thanks. Gary ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From Editorgary at aol.com Sat Nov 10 13:26:18 2007 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:26:18 EST Subject: [Healeys] This would be hell... Message-ID: At our Saturday morning meeting of the Donut Derelicts, the conversation turned to different definitions of hell, including such things as replacing the oil pump on a 1964 Dodge Dart (easy to see, impossible to reach with a wrench). If you were to define a circle of hell where punishment consisted of an eternal assignment to do one Healey restoration or repair job over and over again, what would that job be? Cheers Gary ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From sbyers at ec.rr.com Sat Nov 10 13:33:08 2007 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8Healeys) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:33:08 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] This would be hell... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: 1. Installing carburetors on a BJ8. 2. Installing the intake and exhaust manifolds on a BJ8 engine already in the car. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Editorgary at aol.com Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 12:26 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] This would be hell... At our Saturday morning meeting of the Donut Derelicts, the conversation turned to different definitions of hell, including such things as replacing the oil pump on a 1964 Dodge Dart (easy to see, impossible to reach with a wrench). If you were to define a circle of hell where punishment consisted of an eternal assignment to do one Healey restoration or repair job over and over again, what would that job be? Cheers Gary ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.23/1114 - Release Date: 11/6/2007 8:05 PM From kentmclean at comcast.net Sat Nov 10 14:08:34 2007 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:08:34 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Cockpit Insulating revisited In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1194728914.10311.6.camel@tosh> Steve Byers wrote: > I paid about $3.00 for enough 1/4-inch thick double-sided aluminized > mylar faced bubble-wrap insulation to insulate the whole cockpit, > including both sides of the transmission tunnel. I've heard, but haven't tried, that the ice dam barrier (used in snow country to prevent water from backing up under shingles when ice forms at the eaves) makes a nice, cheap substitute for the Dynamat. For example: http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=11661-278-11661 -- Kent From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Nov 10 14:34:24 2007 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 13:34:24 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] This would be hell... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <473623E0.1060101@comcast.net> Removing inner A-arm bushings (especially if they've been in for many years). bs Editorgary at aol.com wrote: > At our Saturday morning meeting of the Donut Derelicts, the conversation > turned to different definitions of hell, including such things as replacing the > oil pump on a 1964 Dodge Dart (easy to see, impossible to reach with a wrench). > If you were to define a circle of hell where punishment consisted of an > eternal assignment to do one Healey restoration or repair job over and over again, > what would that job be? > Cheers > Gary > > > > ************************************** > See what's new at http://www.aol.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > -- *************************************************************** Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net '67 Austin-Healey 3000 '56 Austin-Healey 100M *************************************************************** From jarowe at westnet.com.au Sat Nov 10 14:39:05 2007 From: jarowe at westnet.com.au (John Rowe) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 05:39:05 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] This would be hell... References: Message-ID: <03f401c823e2$1e651060$0200a8c0@DadP4> Installing all the bolts through the flanges of the front fenders to the shroud. From ahbn6 at optonline.net Sat Nov 10 14:37:37 2007 From: ahbn6 at optonline.net (John Sims) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:37:37 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] This would be hell... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001d01c823e1$ea390bc0$6500a8c0@simsoffice> All related to a BN6 1. Removing/replacing the bolts/washers/nuts on the air cleaners on a BN6 - HD6 carbs. 2. Replacing the right angle drive. 3. Removing and replacing the lower radiator hose especially if equipped with a heater. 4. Correcting any work done by the DPO. 5. Bleeding the clutch slave cylinder UNLESS you have Mr. Finespanners extension (a shameless plug but the thing has removed this job from an 18 swear word job to one in which I don't swear and have no reason therefore to have a martini to calm my nerves. (Why, oh why did I do it - HA!) 6. Trying to trace any electrical problem in the dash. 7. Installing new exhaust down pipes when the bolts are frozen into the exhaust manifold. Only time in my life I thought that having small hands was a blessing. Boy was I wrong. I finally gave up and just pulled the carbs, intake and exhaust manifolds and then had the proper clearance. Then, refer to item one above!!!!! I could go on and on but it is time for dinner. Nevertheless, I still get tremendous joy from spilling my spleen working on my honey, telling my wife to close her ears if she doesn't like my language, bandaging my bleeding hands and drinking my martini. My wife can always tell the difficulty of any Healey job by the number of words she hears, the number of band aids used, and the shrinking level on the Tan query bottle. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Editorgary at aol.com Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 3:26 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] This would be hell... At our Saturday morning meeting of the Donut Derelicts, the conversation turned to different definitions of hell, including such things as replacing the oil pump on a 1964 Dodge Dart (easy to see, impossible to reach with a wrench). If you were to define a circle of hell where punishment consisted of an eternal assignment to do one Healey restoration or repair job over and over again, what would that job be? Cheers Gary From rwil at sbcglobal.net Sat Nov 10 15:25:06 2007 From: rwil at sbcglobal.net (rwil at sbcglobal.net) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:25:06 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] This would be hell... Message-ID: <346034509-1194733539-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1848565766-@bxe119.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Replacing the cold air ducts in one piece -Roland Gary A wrote: If you were to define a circle of hell where punishment consisted of an eternal assignment to do one Healey restoration or repair job over and over again, what would that job be? Cheers Gary Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From rwil at sbcglobal.net Sat Nov 10 15:25:32 2007 From: rwil at sbcglobal.net (rwil at sbcglobal.net) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:25:32 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] This would be hell... Message-ID: <346034509-1194733565-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1987034348-@bxe119.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Replacing the cold air ducts in one piece -Roland Gary A wrote: If you were to define a circle of hell where punishment consisted of an eternal assignment to do one Healey restoration or repair job over and over again, what would that job be? Cheers Gary Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From jwbn6 at verizon.net Sat Nov 10 15:41:20 2007 From: jwbn6 at verizon.net (jerry wall) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:41:20 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Healeys] 3.54 ring & pinion set Message-ID: <21649299.8020341194734480387.JavaMail.root@vms075.mailsrvcs.net> hi team, a local non-lister club member has an unused first run Lempert set still in original box with instructions. he has decided not to use it so it is available to the first $395 which includes domestic shipping. if interested, reply off list. JERRY WALL BN6 ROWLETT, TX From bjcap at optonline.net Sat Nov 10 18:02:02 2007 From: bjcap at optonline.net (Carroll A Phillips) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:02:02 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] This would be hell... References: Message-ID: <005f01c823fe$78a05d20$6501a8c0@carrolls> Installing tops on BJ8s .... definatly not... fun Carroll Phillips Top Down Restorations From williamsantiks at hotmail.com Sat Nov 10 18:21:50 2007 From: williamsantiks at hotmail.com (William Berg) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:21:50 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] This would be hell... In-Reply-To: <346034509-1194733565-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1987034348-@bxe119.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <346034509-1194733565-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1987034348-@bxe119.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: Removing the metal leaf spring bushings for a BN1/2 rear end after 50 years in place. And doing your own 100-4 upholstery. yes there are some wrinkles but I did it myself!!! -William Berg BN1 & BT7 > To: Editorgary at aol.com; healeys-bounces+rwil=sbcglobal.net at autox.team.net; healeys at autox.team.net > From: rwil at sbcglobal.net > Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:25:32 +0000 > Subject: Re: [Healeys] This would be hell... > > Replacing the cold air ducts in one piece > > -Roland > > Gary A wrote: > If you were to define a circle of hell where punishment consisted of an > eternal assignment to do one Healey restoration or repair job over and over again, > what would that job be? > Cheers > Gary > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys _________________________________________________________________ Boo! Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare! http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=wl_hotmailne ws From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Sat Nov 10 19:03:24 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:03:24 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] This would be hell... References: <005f01c823fe$78a05d20$6501a8c0@carrolls> Message-ID: <011901c82407$0cb66470$6601a8c0@actualshop> Sorry, Carroll, but... <> BJ-7 re-using ORIGINAL "clips" trumps ANY POC zippered set-up!!! Ed From helyjohn at cablespeed.com Sat Nov 10 19:26:52 2007 From: helyjohn at cablespeed.com (John Snyder) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:26:52 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] This would be hell... References: Message-ID: <002401c8240a$56e12e10$f030eb42@FRED> Anything to do w/ the rear carb on a Tri-carb. Have done ground up restos on 3 of them :-) Best to get it right b/4 the engine is installed. John Snyder > At our Saturday morning meeting of the Donut Derelicts, the conversation > turned to different definitions of hell, including such things as > replacing the > oil pump on a 1964 Dodge Dart (easy to see, impossible to reach with a > wrench). > If you were to define a circle of hell where punishment consisted of an > eternal assignment to do one Healey restoration or repair job over and > over again, > what would that job be? > Cheers > Gary From glemon at neb.rr.com Sat Nov 10 20:38:56 2007 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:38:56 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] This would be hell... References: <002401c8240a$56e12e10$f030eb42@FRED> Message-ID: <000c01c82414$63b94050$6401a8c0@toshibauser> Just because they are finicky and tend to have to be done a number of times before they are rignt, at least be amatuers like myself: 1. Getting the proper seal on the jets of H series carbs 2. Getting the turn signal control head to work consistently and properly 3. Tracking down O/D electrical problems on a BN1 (we have and extra relay and centrifugal switch). Greg Lemon 54 BN1 From f.ronald.rader at gmail.com Sat Nov 10 22:10:05 2007 From: f.ronald.rader at gmail.com (F. Ronald Rader) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:10:05 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 1954 Nash Healey Coupe Message-ID: <5caeedb50711102110ieb187bdkc52b3223142dd3ac@mail.gmail.com> we found and purcahsed a red 1954 FHC from Hyman in st loius. is there a national Nash Healey registry? are there places that sell parts, or do i have to get engine parts from thru Nash guys and mechnicals from elswhere? thanks ron rader Playa del Rey, CA 1965 BJ8 1967 E FHC 1954 Nash Healey From williamsantiks at hotmail.com Sat Nov 10 22:27:12 2007 From: williamsantiks at hotmail.com (William Berg) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:27:12 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 3.54 ring & pinion set In-Reply-To: <21649299.8020341194734480387.JavaMail.root@vms075.mailsrvcs.net> References: <21649299.8020341194734480387.JavaMail.root@vms075.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: Hello Jerry, Did you gey my Email that I would like to buy the Lempart gear set, Please tell me where to send the check -William Berg > Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:41:20 -0600 > From: jwbn6 at verizon.net > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] 3.54 ring & pinion set > > hi team, > a local non-lister club member has an unused first run Lempert set still in original box with instructions. he has decided not to use it so it is available to the first $395 which includes domestic shipping. > if interested, reply off list. > > JERRY WALL BN6 > ROWLETT, TX > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys _________________________________________________________________ Boo! Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare! http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=wl_hotmailne ws From f.ronald.rader at gmail.com Sat Nov 10 22:43:21 2007 From: f.ronald.rader at gmail.com (F. Ronald Rader) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:43:21 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 1954 Nash Healey Coupe In-Reply-To: <00a001c82424$ba47f640$9101a8c0@home> References: <5caeedb50711102110ieb187bdkc52b3223142dd3ac@mail.gmail.com> <00a001c82424$ba47f640$9101a8c0@home> Message-ID: <5caeedb50711102143r47cf2f43v9bb29195a8d35218@mail.gmail.com> He did great work for me on my BJ8. i heard he move north from Ontario ans he is till work on the same nash healey for 4 years. true? phone number or e mail, please. ron rader On Nov 10, 2007 9:35 PM, Healey Bruce wrote: > Ron, you might give Eric Grunden a call. He was, and may still be, doing > that Nash Healey coupe before he moved. > > Bruce Steele > 1960 BN7 > Brea, CA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "F. Ronald Rader" > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 9:10 PM > Subject: [Healeys] 1954 Nash Healey Coupe > > > > we found and purcahsed a red 1954 FHC from Hyman in st loius. > > > > is there a national Nash Healey registry? > > are there places that sell parts, or do i have to get engine parts > > from thru Nash guys and mechnicals from elswhere? > > thanks > > > > ron rader > > Playa del Rey, CA > > 1965 BJ8 > > 1967 E FHC > > 1954 Nash Healey > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From f.ronald.rader at gmail.com Sat Nov 10 22:46:06 2007 From: f.ronald.rader at gmail.com (F. Ronald Rader) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:46:06 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 3.54 ring & pinion se In-Reply-To: References: <21649299.8020341194734480387.JavaMail.root@vms075.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <5caeedb50711102146x166cdb0fwb6c68608354e0de@mail.gmail.com> please refresh my memory. i installed these in my BJ8. WHAT Was the ratio before in an overdrive car? thanks ron On Nov 10, 2007 9:27 PM, William Berg wrote: > Hello Jerry, Did you gey my Email that I would like to buy the Lempart gear > set, Please tell me where to send the check -William Berg > > > Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:41:20 -0600 > > From: jwbn6 at verizon.net > > To: healeys at autox.team.net > > Subject: [Healeys] 3.54 ring & pinion set > > > > hi team, > > a local non-lister club member has an unused first run Lempert set still in > original box with instructions. he has decided not to use it so it is > available to the first $395 which includes domestic shipping. > > if interested, reply off list. > > > > JERRY WALL BN6 > > ROWLETT, TX > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > _________________________________________________________________ > Boo! Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare! > http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=wl_hotmailne > ws > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From f.ronald.rader at gmail.com Sat Nov 10 22:46:21 2007 From: f.ronald.rader at gmail.com (F. Ronald Rader) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:46:21 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 3.54 ring & pinion se In-Reply-To: <5caeedb50711102146x166cdb0fwb6c68608354e0de@mail.gmail.com> References: <21649299.8020341194734480387.JavaMail.root@vms075.mailsrvcs.net> <5caeedb50711102146x166cdb0fwb6c68608354e0de@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5caeedb50711102146i14ab187bw6c968632fc29f844@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 10, 2007 9:46 PM, F. Ronald Rader wrote: > please refresh my memory. > i installed these in my BJ8. > WHAT Was the ratio before in an overdrive car? > thanks > ron > > > On Nov 10, 2007 9:27 PM, William Berg wrote: > > Hello Jerry, Did you gey my Email that I would like to buy the Lempart gear > > set, Please tell me where to send the check -William Berg > > > > > Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:41:20 -0600 > > > From: jwbn6 at verizon.net > > > To: healeys at autox.team.net > > > Subject: [Healeys] 3.54 ring & pinion set > > > > > > hi team, > > > a local non-lister club member has an unused first run Lempert set still in > > original box with instructions. he has decided not to use it so it is > > available to the first $395 which includes domestic shipping. > > > if interested, reply off list. > > > > > > JERRY WALL BN6 > > > ROWLETT, TX > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Boo! 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Try Windows Live OneCare! > > http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=wl_hotmailne > > ws > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From sjnnock at sbcglobal.net Sat Nov 10 22:48:54 2007 From: sjnnock at sbcglobal.net (Norman Nock) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:48:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Heater rust In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <122164.85281.qm@web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Jim ... lf you did not have your heater core cleaned when you had it out last time , do it now , the heater core is a pocket for rust , your leak is most likly the seal under the valve , pressure check it when you get it out ,we have a hose with a 90' degree fitting on the end that makes it easier to replace the heater.... caution ... if you X the hoses from original you will get very little heat out of your heater...Norman Nock British Car Specialists --- James Sailer wrote: > Morning folks, > > Seems my heater started leaking yesterday .. too bad > as it is great cool > driving here in Idaho .. (with snow on the way this > week) .. maybe one of the > last weekends ... > > So .. although I had my heater out when I did the > nut-and-bolt resto on my > car, I took it out with the dash removed etc .. and > now the extraction repair > will be a little more cumbersome .. > > I am not sure if the leak is heater, or control > valve or gasket ... so I was > going to investigate this afternoon with a mirror > but am not sure I will see > the leak ... is it just as easy to remove the whole > unit and then pressure > test? .. I am assuming that changing the heater > control valve (if that is the > culprit) is a job best done with the heater out > anyway .. > > Any list wisdom would be appreciated. > > Jim Sailer > > 66 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From mbuggy at gmail.com Sat Nov 10 22:32:37 2007 From: mbuggy at gmail.com (mark buggy) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:32:37 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] NOJ 392 for sale Message-ID: There's a great write up on NOJ 392 in this sale ad. Very detailed history. http://www.finecars.cc/en/detail/car/12915/index.html enjoy, Mark Buggy From sbyers at ec.rr.com Sun Nov 11 05:05:12 2007 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8Healeys) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 04:05:12 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 3.54 ring & pinion se In-Reply-To: <5caeedb50711102146i14ab187bw6c968632fc29f844@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, Ron - The original ratio was 3.909 Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock,NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of F. Ronald Rader Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 9:46 PM To: William Berg Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3.54 ring & pinion se On Nov 10, 2007 9:46 PM, F. Ronald Rader wrote: > please refresh my memory. > i installed these in my BJ8. > WHAT Was the ratio before in an overdrive car? > thanks > ron From sbyers at ec.rr.com Sun Nov 11 05:45:37 2007 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8Healeys) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 04:45:37 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] 1954 Nash Healey Coupe In-Reply-To: <5caeedb50711102110ieb187bdkc52b3223142dd3ac@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Ron, the Nash Healey registry sponsored by AHCA is open at the moment. Maybe you would be interested in taking it on? If so, contact John May. His e-mail address is at http://www.healeyclub.org/registries.htm Sorry, I don't know a source for the parts. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock,NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of F. Ronald Rader Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 9:10 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] 1954 Nash Healey Coupe we found and purcahsed a red 1954 FHC from Hyman in st loius. is there a national Nash Healey registry? are there places that sell parts, or do i have to get engine parts from thru Nash guys and mechnicals from elswhere? thanks ron rader Playa del Rey, CA 1965 BJ8 1967 E FHC 1954 Nash Healey From mgtrcars at galaxyinternet.net Sun Nov 11 06:06:12 2007 From: mgtrcars at galaxyinternet.net (Mark and Kathy) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:06:12 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Heater rust References: <122164.85281.qm@web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000d01c82463$a3a79410$b64efc04@markl946cfrd7q> Every picture that I have seen have the hoses crossing each other. Please explain yourself. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Nock" To: "James Sailer" ; "Healey List" Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 12:48 AM Subject: [Healeys] Heater rust > Jim ... lf you did not have your heater core cleaned > when you had it out last time , do it now , the heater > core is a pocket for rust , your leak is most likly > the seal under the valve , pressure check it when you > get it out ,we have a hose with a 90' degree fitting > on the end that makes it easier to replace the > heater.... caution ... if you X the hoses from > original you will get very little heat out of your > heater...Norman Nock British Car Specialists > > > --- James Sailer wrote: > >> Morning folks, >> >> Seems my heater started leaking yesterday .. too bad >> as it is great cool >> driving here in Idaho .. (with snow on the way this >> week) .. maybe one of the >> last weekends ... >> >> So .. although I had my heater out when I did the >> nut-and-bolt resto on my >> car, I took it out with the dash removed etc .. and >> now the extraction repair >> will be a little more cumbersome .. >> >> I am not sure if the leak is heater, or control >> valve or gasket ... so I was >> going to investigate this afternoon with a mirror >> but am not sure I will see >> the leak ... is it just as easy to remove the whole >> unit and then pressure >> test? .. I am assuming that changing the heater >> control valve (if that is the >> culprit) is a job best done with the heater out >> anyway .. >> >> Any list wisdom would be appreciated. >> >> Jim Sailer >> >> 66 BJ8 >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From dcongleton at embarqmail.com Sun Nov 11 07:10:47 2007 From: dcongleton at embarqmail.com (Dallas Congleton) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:10:47 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] This would be hell... References: Message-ID: <000b01c8246c$a896eb70$0201a8c0@your4dacd0ea75> > If you were to define a circle of hell where punishment consisted of an > eternal assignment to do one Healey restoration or repair job over and > over again, > what would that job be? Removing and replacing the clutch slave cylinder is a lot of fun, almost as much as replacing the accelerator relay shaft bushings with the engine in the car. Dallas 67 BJ8 From wsthompson at thicko.com Sun Nov 11 07:22:21 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:22:21 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] SOS '07 anybody got a wrench? Message-ID: <004701c8246e$4822ecb0$d868c610$@com> Hey y'all, Preparation continues for SOS '07 Idgets withSpridgets. I've got 4 toolboxes populated so no one need wait on a tool to get something done. There are multiple air connections throughout the shop, and we have lots of impacts and air ratchets. If anyone has an extra Horrible Freight aluminum race jack that you've got room to bring, please toss it in the trunk. Also, maybe an extra set of jackstands. Kris Larsen is bringing his plasma cutter. With that, the torch, and a couple of Sawzalls, we should be able to liberate the good bits from some bad cars. I'd recommend you bring some work gloves, and eye protection if you have it. Also, remember to bring a change of clothes for Fri. night's dinner at a place that serves local Wisco faire. Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From wsthompson at thicko.com Sun Nov 11 07:50:41 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:50:41 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] SOS '07 Where and when? Message-ID: <005201c82472$3d54d2e0$b7fe78a0$@com> Hey y'all, The shop number is (920) 966-0252. Here's a map to the Dream Farm, home of Team Thicko International Headquarters (the homo club). (or as John Sprinzel dubbed it, the Dream Farm and the Nightmare Barn) For those of you with GPS, Hass & Lincoln Rd., Van Dyne, WI. We're on the NW corner. We're the place with a large Thicko trailer, 6 cancerous Spridgets out front, and a go kart track. http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q &hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=Hass+%26+Lincoln+Rd.,+Van+Dyne,+WI&sll= 43.877727,-88.564053&sspn=0.051598,0.159645&ie=UTF8&ll=43.881934,-88.564138& spn=0.025797,0.079823&z=14&iwloc=addr&om=1 We'll get started around 9 AM Friday, Nov. 23rd. The Floundervision Yahoo broadcast will start around 10 AM. We'll work until about 4 PM, and head off to dinner at 5:30 PM. Saturday, the 24th, we'll get started about the same time. Brunch will be served both days, and there will be coffee, beer, and soda available all day. Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From wsthompson at thicko.com Sun Nov 11 08:08:20 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:08:20 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] [Spridgets] SOS '07 Where and when? In-Reply-To: <111120071501.27529.473719480006023200006B892205884484020A04040ED29D0A030E9D05@comcast.net> References: <111120071501.27529.473719480006023200006B892205884484020A04040ED29D0A030E9D05@comcast.net> Message-ID: <006b01c82474$b4a81620$1df84260$@com> Hello Allen, Yes, I have the camera on periodically every day. Most likely today it will be on after 11AM CST. I'm moving the camera around. The day of the SOS, it will be on a rolling cart so we can get views of all the projects. If you're online, you'll get an invitation to a conference. Once in the conference, everyone can hear the audio while viewing the video, and if you have a mic, can also speak to the live participants and remote conference viewers. WST From: kramer.allen at comcast.net [mailto:kramer.allen at comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 9:01 AM To: Wm. Severin Thompson; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] SOS '07 Where and when? Is Floundervision Yahoo broadcast up and running for a try out prior to the event? Thanks, Allen From quenty at ntelos.net Sun Nov 11 11:21:16 2007 From: quenty at ntelos.net (Dave Schweninger) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 13:21:16 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Heater rust In-Reply-To: <000d01c82463$a3a79410$b64efc04@markl946cfrd7q> References: <122164.85281.qm@web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <000d01c82463$a3a79410$b64efc04@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: <4EBC1175-2A4A-4205-9066-137C3F26A743@ntelos.net> Mark I think he means don't swap the gosinta and the gosouta. Good Luck Dave On Nov 11, 2007, at 8:06 AM, Mark and Kathy wrote: > Every picture that I have seen have the hoses crossing each > other. Please > explain yourself. > > Mark > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Norman Nock" > To: "James Sailer" ; "Healey List" > > Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 12:48 AM > Subject: [Healeys] Heater rust > > >> Jim ... lf you did not have your heater core cleaned >> when you had it out last time , do it now , the heater >> core is a pocket for rust , your leak is most likly >> the seal under the valve , pressure check it when you >> get it out ,we have a hose with a 90' degree fitting >> on the end that makes it easier to replace the >> heater.... caution ... if you X the hoses from >> original you will get very little heat out of your >> heater...Norman Nock British Car Specialists From joemulqueen at yahoo.com Sun Nov 11 12:04:00 2007 From: joemulqueen at yahoo.com (joe mulqueen) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:04:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Cockpit Insulating revisited Message-ID: <137215.16883.qm@web82215.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Lowes and HD does have some self adhering tar like material available in all areas. Used for "flashing" when installing new windows and doors. The adhesive is very tenacious. The only issue is that it's only avail in rolls approx 6" wide and not very thick. The material I got from HD is .025 thk. Regards, Joe M '60 BT7 project '29 house project Santa Clara, CA Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:08:34 -0500 From: Kent McLean Subject: Re: [Healeys] Cockpit Insulating revisited To: healeys at autox.team.net Message-ID: <1194728914.10311.6.camel at tosh> Content-Type: text/plain Steve Byers wrote: > I paid about $3.00 for enough 1/4-inch thick double-sided aluminized > mylar faced bubble-wrap insulation to insulate the whole cockpit, > including both sides of the transmission tunnel. I've heard, but haven't tried, that the ice dam barrier (used in snow country to prevent water from backing up under shingles when ice forms at the eaves) makes a nice, cheap substitute for the Dynamat. For example: http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=11661-278-11661 -- Kent From coll44 at msn.com Sun Nov 11 12:34:20 2007 From: coll44 at msn.com (TERRY COLL) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:34:20 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 3.54 ring & pinion se Message-ID: I thought I saw something a while back from Mike Lempert about news on the latest run of 3.54 gear sets. Does Mike or anyone else know what is going on with the latest batch of 3.54 gears? Terry Coll '64 BJ8 From Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au Sun Nov 11 15:43:02 2007 From: Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au (Quinn, Patrick) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:43:02 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] 1954 Nash Healey Coupe In-Reply-To: <5caeedb50711102110ieb187bdkc52b3223142dd3ac@mail.gmail.com> References: <5caeedb50711102110ieb187bdkc52b3223142dd3ac@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3CFB7014611C6F418B529D81EC0708C70169EDC3@itfexch5.central.det.win> G'day I seem to recall that there is a Nash-Healey club in the US. However you might like to start with the Association of Healey Owners. This is the UK based club for real Healeys ie. those cars without the Austin prefix. Their website is: http://www.healeyowners.co.uk/ Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia 1947 Healey Duncan Saloon 1954 Austin-Healey 100 BN3/1 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+patrick.quinn=det.nsw.edu.au at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+patrick.quinn=det.nsw.edu.au at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of F. Ronald Rader Sent: Sunday, 11 November 2007 4:10 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] 1954 Nash Healey Coupe we found and purcahsed a red 1954 FHC from Hyman in st loius. is there a national Nash Healey registry? are there places that sell parts, or do i have to get engine parts from thru Nash guys and mechnicals from elswhere? thanks ron rader Playa del Rey, CA 1965 BJ8 1967 E FHC 1954 Nash Healey ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From dwhite4949 at wowway.com Sun Nov 11 16:05:02 2007 From: dwhite4949 at wowway.com (Daniel and Diane White) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:05:02 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] This would be heaven... Message-ID: <47378A9E.1010801@wowway.com> So we've heard some of the repair operations that we consider "hell" to perform (I'll vote for anything that has to do with the third carb on a tri-carb). I'm wondering what one thing puts us in heaven re our Healey(s)? For me, it's listening to that exhaust note or looking at it from the rear quarter view. Dan White From ahbn6 at optonline.net Sun Nov 11 16:18:24 2007 From: ahbn6 at optonline.net (John Sims) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:18:24 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] This would be heaven... In-Reply-To: <47378A9E.1010801@wowway.com> References: <47378A9E.1010801@wowway.com> Message-ID: <004901c824b9$28742870$6500a8c0@simsoffice> For me, it was when I lived in Las Vegas and regularly drove up and down the strip to see how many people would point at me (especially during British Car Week) or, when stopped they would say -- what a great car or my personal favorite - my uncle, father, friend, neighbor had one -- If all were added together, it would total over a half a million people who claimed or had friends, relatives, others state that someone somewhere owned one. And, the Healey would have then been the all time best seller! My favorite of all time was when I was stopped in traffic crossing the Hoover Dam and I took pictures of people taking pictures of me. Other heavenly moments, taking the curvy road from Boulder City, Nev. down and across the dam into Arizona and back. What a rush! John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Daniel and Diane White Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 6:05 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] This would be heaven... So we've heard some of the repair operations that we consider "hell" to perform (I'll vote for anything that has to do with the third carb on a tri-carb). I'm wondering what one thing puts us in heaven re our Healey(s)? For me, it's listening to that exhaust note or looking at it from the rear quarter view. Dan White From healeybn7 at aol.com Sun Nov 11 16:29:48 2007 From: healeybn7 at aol.com (healeybn7 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:29:48 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] This would be heaven... In-Reply-To: <47378A9E.1010801@wowway.com> References: <47378A9E.1010801@wowway.com> Message-ID: <8C9F2D1E27807AD-A5C-7FFE@FWM-D31.sysops.aol.com> Spending time working on them with my kids.? Dave **************************************** -----Original Message----- From: Daniel and Diane White To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 6:05 pm Subject: [Healeys] This would be heaven... So we've heard some of the repair operations that we consider "hell" to perform (I'll vote for anything that has to do with the third carb on a tri-carb). I'm wondering what one thing puts us in heaven re our Healey(s)? For me, it's listening to that exhaust note or looking at it from the rear quarter view. Dan White ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com From NPaul72464 at aol.com Sun Nov 11 16:36:58 2007 From: NPaul72464 at aol.com (NPaul72464 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:36:58 EST Subject: [Healeys] This would be heaven... Message-ID: For me it's a drive from Watkins Glen on route 14 along Seneca Lake to Geneva, NY on a beautiful summer day. Spectactular views. And, be sure to stop at a few wineries. "God's in his heaven, all's right with the world." Ned Paulsen ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From rich_holman at yahoo.com Sun Nov 11 17:25:15 2007 From: rich_holman at yahoo.com (Rich Holman) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:25:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Fuel Dip Stick Message-ID: <705180.80451.qm@web56810.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Several months ago someone provided the "Gallons per Inch" for a dip stick to determine how much fuel was actually in the tank. I thought I saved it but, NO, and I cannot find it in the archives. If someone would retransmit it to me, I would really appreciate it. Thanks in advance. Rich 57 BN4 Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From linwoodrose at mac.com Sun Nov 11 17:39:15 2007 From: linwoodrose at mac.com (linwood rose) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:39:15 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Toyota 5 speed W57 Gearbox Message-ID: <04000CC4-216F-4080-9B58-FD6C20922C23@mac.com> I know that I fill it till its full, but about how much oil (I am using Redline MT-90) does it take to fill the gearbox? Lin 1960 BT7 in restoration 1959 Bugeye From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Sun Nov 11 17:54:28 2007 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Leonard Hartnett) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:54:28 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] This would be heaven... In-Reply-To: <47378A9E.1010801@wowway.com> References: <47378A9E.1010801@wowway.com> Message-ID: <41AB7672B209437DB1F4C631F580D8E0@LeonardPC> DRIVING IT! Thirty Seven years with HBJ8L39031 and I still get a rush, especially when cruising down the Interstate at the speed limit (really) and getting a thumbs-up from the driver of an exotic/expensive sports cars as he passes me. Or, a car that starts to pass me, then slows down and falls back, then comes by again with a passenger taking pictures. Almost better than s...... No. That's another list. (The Other) Len Vacaville, California, USA 1967 3000 MKIII, HBJ8L39031 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel and Diane White" To: Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 3:05 PM Subject: [Healeys] This would be heaven... > I'm wondering what one thing puts us in heaven re our > Healey(s)? > Dan White > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From ah3000me at gmail.com Sun Nov 11 17:59:06 2007 From: ah3000me at gmail.com (T W) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:59:06 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] backup fuel pump polarity In-Reply-To: References: <631569.18067.qm@web83306.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <004601c8200d$f7525190$6401a8c0@toshibauser> Message-ID: Thanks to Greg, Norm, Alan, Earl, John... I popped one of those plastic posi-flo pumps in my positive-ground 3000, and it works like a champ. Red wire (postive) to ground, and the black wire (negative) to power. I did check the pump with an ohm meter to make sure that the electrical wires weren't internally connected to anything, and they weren't. thanks again, Tom On Nov 5, 2007 8:45 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote: > the plastic bodied pumps are dual polarity. Actually, the old metal > versions were dual polarity too. Those instructions are wrong, and > were likely written by someone who didn't know better. > > Welcome to the modern world. Too much information is out there yet > people don't know squat. Weird how the old days very little > information was available but somehow the car parts guys knew what > they were doing - maybe in the old days people learned by > apprenticeship.... > > Alan > > > On 11/6/07, Greg Lemon wrote: > > I looked at the instructions for my plastic body Facet pump, the > > instructions say negative ground only, I would think reversing the wires > > would work, but it does have metal inlets and outlets for the fuel flow, > > don't know it these are potential short out points. > > > > Greg Lemon From ahbn6 at optonline.net Sun Nov 11 18:16:53 2007 From: ahbn6 at optonline.net (John Sims) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:16:53 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Fuel Dip Stick In-Reply-To: <705180.80451.qm@web56810.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <705180.80451.qm@web56810.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <006601c824c9$b5ecca80$6500a8c0@simsoffice> Here it is thanks to James Lea: Quote I found it! After several weeks of looking and promises to send the measurements to the list the missing dip stick has been found. The measurements are as follows: The stick itself is a 3/4" dowel 28" long. From the bottom the first gallon mark is at 3/4" then each succeeding gallon mark is 3/8" up the stick for a total of 13 marks. I put the stick in a lathe and turned a small grove for each mark. Good luck. JL James Lea PO Box 25 Rockport Maine 04856 1-207-236-3632 1952 MG TD 1952 Triumph Mayflower 1958 Rover P4 1962 Austin Healey BT7 Unquote John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rich Holman Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 7:25 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Fuel Dip Stick Several months ago someone provided the "Gallons per Inch" for a dip stick to determine how much fuel was actually in the tank. I thought I saved it but, NO, and I cannot find it in the archives. If someone would retransmit it to me, I would really appreciate it. Thanks in advance. Rich 57 BN4 From tw002crew at shoreham.net Mon Nov 12 19:03:13 2007 From: tw002crew at shoreham.net (Daniel) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:03:13 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Burlington Conclave-Newspaper article Message-ID: <20071112020435.B8199187A11@autox.team.net> I have a copy of the Friday, June 29, Burlington Free Press article about the Conclave. It has a pic of a Healey from Virginia, plate XXX-3734 in the main part of the article. If the owner is on this list and would like the article, contact me off list and I'll send it right off. Dan W, Orwell, VT '61 Bugeye '65 BJ8 From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Sun Nov 11 19:12:53 2007 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (James Shope) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:12:53 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] this would be hell Message-ID: <003e01c824d1$887f5470$5201a8c0@Jim> hands down, the winner is changing the top on a bj8. i would rather watch three days of women impersonators than change a top. healeymanjim From schauss at worldnet.att.net Sun Nov 11 19:18:29 2007 From: schauss at worldnet.att.net (Peter Schauss) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:18:29 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] This would be heaven... In-Reply-To: <004901c824b9$28742870$6500a8c0@simsoffice> Message-ID: <20071112021905.C5343187B38@autox.team.net> My all time favorite is the time the guy in a bright red 911 flashed his lights and gave me the thumbs up sign. Peter Schauss 1963 BJ7 1980 MGB From shop at justbrits.com Sun Nov 11 19:49:51 2007 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:49:51 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] this would be hell References: <003e01c824d1$887f5470$5201a8c0@Jim> Message-ID: <061501c824d6$b2f28a60$6601a8c0@actualshop> <> Sorry Jim, I stand by doing a BJ-7 with the clips. New top does NOT come with the clips so they have to be removed from old and re-installed (VERY accurately!!!) on the new top!! Anybody can do a zipper!!! Ed From grumpyinloomis at ssctv.net Sun Nov 11 20:07:27 2007 From: grumpyinloomis at ssctv.net (Jerry Costanzo) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:07:27 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] This would be heaven... References: <47378A9E.1010801@wowway.com> Message-ID: <000301c824d9$28389880$0300a8c0@KatieCostanzo> I think the largest hell is putting a car back together that you did not take apart and was not marked, packaged, or pictured in any way. I am working on my third such car now. Jerry TR3A done BN4 done BJ8 Just started ! From sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au Sun Nov 11 20:44:48 2007 From: sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au (sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:44:48 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Heaven and Hell Message-ID: <1194839088.4737cc30b940d@webmail.hotkey.net.au> It was hell trying to get everyone in but heaven when both girls sat sooo close It was hell getting the gearchange smooth but heaven persisting. FIVE of us,three guys and two girls in dresses were on our way to a dance 20 mile away in my first BN.4 with the works hardtop fitted. The fact that it was raining did not help keep the screen clear with that many bodies inside. Joe From steveg at abrazosdata.com Sun Nov 11 21:42:03 2007 From: steveg at abrazosdata.com (Steve B. Gerow) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:42:03 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] [Off] Racing Motorcycle Pix uploaded to gallery Message-ID: Am taking the liberty of posting this non-Healey but hopefully of-interest information. Today I visited the Solvang Motorcycle Museum, near Santa Barbara, CA. It contains 95 prime examples of racing motorcycles, most British and Italian, including Gilera, Moto-Guzzi, MV Augusta, AJS, Matchless, Norton, etc. Pictures at: http://www.pbase.com/stevegerow -- Steve Gerow Pasadena, CA From eschulz at frontiernet.net Sun Nov 11 21:59:06 2007 From: eschulz at frontiernet.net (Elton Schulz) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:59:06 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BJ7 Dimension needed Message-ID: <009c01c824e8$c164a3f0$bf5d6546@655vb01> Fellow Listers, Could someone please measure across the width of a BJ7 at the rear quarter panel finishers, Part no. AHB 9571 and 9572 or Moss part no 805-210 and 220. This is the little chrome finisher piece at the door shut panel. I need the distance from the top outside edge of the right finisher across the chassis to the top outside edge of the left finisher. It should be somewhere in the neighborhood of 51 inches or so. I would think this would be the same for a BJ8 as well. I neglected to get this measurement before I replaced the inner fender doglegs and door shut panels. Thanks, Elton, BJ7 in progress From steveg at abrazosdata.com Sun Nov 11 22:54:08 2007 From: steveg at abrazosdata.com (Steve B. Gerow) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:54:08 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] fuel gallon marks by observation Message-ID: I've observed the following marks by adding water to a completely dry undistorted original tank mounted on sawhorses and leveled. I've repeated this twice as a check: 2 Gal 15/16" 4 G 1-7/8" 6 G 2-9/16" 8 G 3-15/16" 10 G 4" 12 G 5-1/8" 13.75 G 6-3/4" It's important that the side with the marks is down and against the side of the filler tube. -- Steve Gerow Pasadena CA 59 BN6 From hypercubic at yahoo.co.uk Mon Nov 12 00:29:47 2007 From: hypercubic at yahoo.co.uk (mike brooks) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:29:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] This would be heaven... Message-ID: <978485.17216.qm@web34211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Maybe heaven would be the wrong word but this gave me a lot of satisfaction. About a year ago I was working on the 100 in the basement garage underneath our apartment complex. There must be over 200 garages down there all side by side. An Italian neighbour saw me, stopped by and admired. this Sunday just gone, he came by again. He has just bought a 100 and takes delivery next week. Apparently it's Healey Blue with ivory coves - I know no more yet. He's going to call me when it arrives. So, another Healey convert - out of the blue. What's particularly rewarding is that the Italians have so many great cars of their own to choose from yet he has bought a Healey. and there are only about 70 known Healeys of all types in Italy. Mike Brooks 56 BN2 Milano Italy Message: 15 Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:18:29 -0500 From: "Peter Schauss" Subject: Re: [Healeys] This would be heaven... To: Message-ID: <20071112021905.C5343187B38 at autox.team.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" My all time favorite is the time the guy in a bright red 911 flashed his lights and gave me the thumbs up sign. Peter Schauss 1963 BJ7 1980 MGB From healey.nut at gmail.com Mon Nov 12 01:15:42 2007 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:15:42 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] This would be heaven... In-Reply-To: <978485.17216.qm@web34211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <978485.17216.qm@web34211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Mike - Yeah, well, if you ever tried to buy a spare part for any Italian classic... the Healey conversion process should be a super easy sell !!! Every part on the old Alfas, Fiats, Lancias and Maseratis are like trying to order rocking horse sh*t. Cheers, Alan On Nov 12, 2007 3:29 PM, mike brooks wrote: > Maybe heaven would be the wrong word but this gave me a lot of satisfaction. > About a year ago I was working on the 100 in the basement garage underneath > our apartment complex. There must be over 200 garages down there all side by > side. An Italian neighbour saw me, stopped by and admired. this Sunday just > gone, he came by again. He has just bought a 100 and takes delivery next week. > Apparently it's Healey Blue with ivory coves - I know no more yet. He's going > to call me when it arrives. So, another Healey convert - out of the blue. > What's particularly rewarding is that the Italians have so many great cars of > their own to choose from yet he has bought a Healey. and there are only about > 70 known Healeys of all types in Italy. > > Mike Brooks > 56 BN2 > Milano > Italy From sbyers at ec.rr.com Mon Nov 12 03:57:12 2007 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8Healeys) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 02:57:12 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Burlington Conclave-Newspaper article In-Reply-To: <20071112020435.B8199187A11@autox.team.net> Message-ID: Hi, Dan - I know the owner, but I don't believe he is on the list. I'll contact him and let him know about the article, and I'm sure he will be in touch with you. Another service of the BJ8 Registry.... Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Daniel Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 6:03 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Burlington Conclave-Newspaper article I have a copy of the Friday, June 29, Burlington Free Press article about the Conclave. It has a pic of a Healey from Virginia, plate XXX-3734 in the main part of the article. If the owner is on this list and would like the article, contact me off list and I'll send it right off. Dan W, Orwell, VT '61 Bugeye '65 BJ8 Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.28/1123 - Release Date: 11/10/2007 3:47 PM From gbrierton at hotmail.com Mon Nov 12 04:22:43 2007 From: gbrierton at hotmail.com (Gary R. Brierton) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:22:43 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Forest City. Illinois In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Tom, My first car was a new BJ8, BRG/Black int. (HBJ8L/30107) purchased on April 4th 1965, from Forest City Imported Cars, Ltd., 315 So. Church. Rockford, IL . They may have had two locations or they may have moved (see Steve's post). Managed to get #2 in the summer of 1967 (Red/Black interior) in Rockford (same dealer). It was (they said) their last one. I don't have that number. Gary Brierton > Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 19:21:53 -0500 > From: trhouse at greenapple.com > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] Forest City. Illinois > > Loking for history on Forest City Foriegn Car probably fifty and sixties > era???? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys _________________________________________________________________ Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Cafi. Stop by today. http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_sweetstuff2.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_OctWLt agline From j.aeckerlin at tiscali.nl Mon Nov 12 05:37:20 2007 From: j.aeckerlin at tiscali.nl (J.Aeckerlin) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:37:20 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] This would be heaven... In-Reply-To: <000301c824d9$28389880$0300a8c0@KatieCostanzo> References: <47378A9E.1010801@wowway.com> <000301c824d9$28389880$0300a8c0@KatieCostanzo> Message-ID: <47384900.7040905@tiscali.nl> Jerry, I couldn't agree more. You describe exactly what I bought. On top of that came that I'd never seen an Austin-Healey before, except on pictures. Didn't have a clue what I was looking at when I spread the contents of all boxes, bags and jamjars on my workshop floor. Took me 5.1/2 years to get the car back on the road, so I enjoyed both hell and heaven. What an experience! Jack Aeckerlin, The Netherlands 1964 BJ8 29432 Jerry Costanzo schreef: > I think the largest hell is putting a car back together that you did not > take apart and was not marked, packaged, or pictured in any way. > > I am working on my third such car now. > > Jerry > TR3A done > BN4 done > BJ8 Just started ! From rccpl1 at yahoo.com Mon Nov 12 06:21:21 2007 From: rccpl1 at yahoo.com (john doe) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 05:21:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] list Message-ID: <993521.61213.qm@web30403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> trying to subscribe to the triumph list but to no avail can someone help me out where do i put the command in the subject or the box Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From davzu29 at cox.net Mon Nov 12 07:05:41 2007 From: davzu29 at cox.net (David Z) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:05:41 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] [Off] Racing Motorcycle Pix uploaded to gallery References: Message-ID: <004c01c82535$1c2f1080$6601a8c0@ORGANIZA79207D> Steve, Thanx for sharing these great pics! David Z. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve B. Gerow" To: "Healeys Newsgroup" Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 11:42 PM Subject: [Healeys] [Off] Racing Motorcycle Pix uploaded to gallery > Am taking the liberty of posting this non-Healey but hopefully of-interest > information. > > Today I visited the Solvang Motorcycle Museum, near Santa Barbara, CA. > It contains 95 prime examples of racing motorcycles, most British and > Italian, including Gilera, Moto-Guzzi, MV Augusta, AJS, Matchless, Norton, > etc. > > Pictures at: > http://www.pbase.com/stevegerow > > -- > Steve Gerow > Pasadena, CA > _______________________________________________ > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 125 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len From Warthodson at aol.com Mon Nov 12 07:07:20 2007 From: Warthodson at aol.com (Warthodson at aol.com) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:07:20 EST Subject: [Healeys] wire sizing Message-ID: Is there a list or table available that provides the current carrying capacity (rating) at 12 volts DC for various stranded copper wire gages? Thanks, Gary Hodson ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From lists at brits-n-pieces.com Mon Nov 12 07:49:20 2007 From: lists at brits-n-pieces.com (Brits'n'Pieces (Eric Frenken)) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:49:20 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] list In-Reply-To: <993521.61213.qm@web30403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <993521.61213.qm@web30403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <02fe01c8253b$358e3730$a0aaa590$@com> Try this: http://www.team.net/cgi-bin/majorcool -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: healeys-bounces+lists=brits-n-pieces.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+lists=brits-n-pieces.com at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von john doe Gesendet: Montag, 12. November 2007 14:21 An: healeys at autox.team.net Betreff: [Healeys] list trying to subscribe to the triumph list but to no avail can someone help me out where do i put the command in the subject or the box From JNBrashear at garverengineers.com Mon Nov 12 08:55:40 2007 From: JNBrashear at garverengineers.com (Brashear, Jack, N) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:55:40 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Mini Cooper S price question Message-ID: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE6036FF779@glitas07.garverinc.local> Hi to the many of you that own late Minis. I have an opportunity to buy a 2006 S with just barely 10,000 miles from a lady in my building. It has moon/sun/whatever roof option and all the other bells and whistles, 6-speed automatic with the steering wheel paddles. Tires still look fine. I drove this car when she bought it new and What A Great Ride it was!! Anyway, she's asking $22.5k. Is this too much money, just about right, or what?? Oh yes, she says she needs something a little bigger that will hold her bicycle. Please help me out with this and many thanks. Jack From insptwo at msn.com Mon Nov 12 09:45:55 2007 From: insptwo at msn.com (insptwo at msn.com) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:45:55 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] wire sizing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The national electrical code and it's not the voltage, it is the ampacity that governs the size of the wire. Bill BJ7 >From: Warthodson at aol.com >To: healeys at autox.team.net >Subject: [Healeys] wire sizing >Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:07:20 EST > >Is there a list or table available that provides the current carrying >capacity (rating) at 12 volts DC for various stranded copper wire gages? >Thanks, >Gary Hodson > > > >************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >Healeys at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From amalin at mac.com Mon Nov 12 09:46:58 2007 From: amalin at mac.com (Al Malin) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:46:58 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] wire sizing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <123A96FF-5112-4344-B842-70F4EC8829F9@mac.com> Hi Gary, Google is your friend :=) Try a search for "electrical wire rating". Al Malin Tricarb On Nov 12, 2007, at 9:07 AM, Warthodson at aol.com wrote: > Is there a list or table available that provides the current carrying > capacity (rating) at 12 volts DC for various stranded copper wire > gages? > Thanks, > Gary Hodson > > > > ************************************** See what's new at http:// > www.aol.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From amalin at mac.com Mon Nov 12 09:50:16 2007 From: amalin at mac.com (Al Malin) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:50:16 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] [Off] Racing Motorcycle Pix uploaded to gallery In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Steve, Nice photos! Al Malin Tricarb On Nov 11, 2007, at 11:42 PM, Steve B. Gerow wrote: > Am taking the liberty of posting this non-Healey but hopefully of- > interest > information. > > Today I visited the Solvang Motorcycle Museum, near Santa Barbara, CA. > It contains 95 prime examples of racing motorcycles, most British and > Italian, including Gilera, Moto-Guzzi, MV Augusta, AJS, Matchless, > Norton, > etc. > > Pictures at: > http://www.pbase.com/stevegerow > > -- > Steve Gerow > Pasadena, CA > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From ryan at jimryan.com Mon Nov 12 10:50:30 2007 From: ryan at jimryan.com (Jim Ryan) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:50:30 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Mini Cooper S price question In-Reply-To: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE6036FF779@glitas07.garverinc.local> References: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE6036FF779@glitas07.garverinc.local> Message-ID: <008501c82554$8f849310$1102010a@foedus.local> Jack, The 2006 S is the last year for the supercharger, so desirable. I have a 2002 with 152k trouble free miles on it and can't say enough good things. That price sounds about right. You could Google Mini of Peabody and look at their used inventory to get an idea. She obviously didn't read the manual they sent out on how to put a bike in the back... Where do you live? -Jim 1964 BJ7 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+ryan=jimryan.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+ryan=jimryan.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brashear, Jack, N Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:56 AM To: Healeys at Autox; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Mini Cooper S price question Hi to the many of you that own late Minis. I have an opportunity to buy a 2006 S with just barely 10,000 miles from a lady in my building. It has moon/sun/whatever roof option and all the other bells and whistles, 6-speed automatic with the steering wheel paddles. Tires still look fine. I drove this car when she bought it new and What A Great Ride it was!! Anyway, she's asking $22.5k. Is this too much money, just about right, or what?? Oh yes, she says she needs something a little bigger that will hold her bicycle. Please help me out with this and many thanks. Jack Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys -- If this email is spam, report it here: http://www.onlymyemail.com/view/?action=reportSpam&Id=MTkxNjE6NDUwMDQ4ODgwOn J5YW5Aamltcnlhbi5jb20%3D From ghess4 at cox.net Mon Nov 12 11:50:08 2007 From: ghess4 at cox.net (Gale Hess) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:50:08 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] wire sizing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8B378B2F6D89476F883F15509AD3ADA9@GalePC> Gary, this website is a good description of the factors involving wire capacity and a chart re. wire sizes. You may find this useful. Good Luck Gale Hess BJ8 San Diego From ghess4 at cox.net Mon Nov 12 11:50:08 2007 From: ghess4 at cox.net (Gale Hess) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:50:08 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] wire sizing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <98D38243F2104EF78ADD3176584A7E97@GalePC> Gary, this website is a good description of the factors involving wire capacity and a chart re. wire sizes. You may find this useful. Good Luck Gale Hess BJ8 San Diego From ghess4 at cox.net Mon Nov 12 11:56:24 2007 From: ghess4 at cox.net (Gale Hess) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:56:24 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] wire sizing Message-ID: <20D4FACBC1574946A6135B613E07A3AA@GalePC> Gary, I'm sorry, the website didn't get included in my previous email. It is www.rowand.net/Shop/Tech/WireCapacityChart.htm From ghess4 at cox.net Mon Nov 12 11:56:24 2007 From: ghess4 at cox.net (Gale Hess) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:56:24 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] wire sizing Message-ID: Gary, I'm sorry, the website didn't get included in my previous email. It is www.rowand.net/Shop/Tech/WireCapacityChart.htm From robert.w.johnson at charter.net Mon Nov 12 12:09:57 2007 From: robert.w.johnson at charter.net (Bob Johnson) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:09:57 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Bonneville Healey Message-ID: <002001c8255f$9dc91120$021919ac@valued28addca9> Does the Bonneville Healey still exist? If so, who has it, where is it? Thanks, Bob Johnson BJ8 From caws52803 at aol.com Mon Nov 12 12:19:51 2007 From: caws52803 at aol.com (caws52803 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:19:51 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Bonneville Healey In-Reply-To: <002001c8255f$9dc91120$021919ac@valued28addca9> References: <002001c8255f$9dc91120$021919ac@valued28addca9> Message-ID: <8C9F37821FB35EE-3F8-1CDB@WEBMAIL-MB16.sysops.aol.com> A long time ago in a far away I once asked Donald the same question.? He said when they were finished with the car, they just parked in behind a shed.? He also said the wheel wells were filled with salt, so it probably didn't last too long. Rudy Streng Lenoir, NC -----Original Message----- From: Bob Johnson To: Healeys Sent: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 2:09 pm Subject: [Healeys] Bonneville Healey Does the Bonneville Healey still exist? If so, who has it, where is it? Thanks, Bob Johnson BJ8 Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com From stevemickelson at sbcglobal.net Mon Nov 12 12:28:42 2007 From: stevemickelson at sbcglobal.net (Steven Mickelson) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:28:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Bonneville Healey Message-ID: <15101.18407.qm@web82508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Both the Bonneville (1954 192.62 mph and 1956 203.11 mph) cars were scrapped out ("written off"). Salt corrosion got 'em both. Steve Mickelson BN1L-156610 (Brutus) ----- Original Message ---- From: Bob Johnson To: Healeys Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 11:09:57 AM Subject: [Healeys] Bonneville Healey Does the Bonneville Healey still exist? If so, who has it, where is it? Thanks, Bob Johnson BJ8 Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From 57healey at gmail.com Mon Nov 12 12:35:48 2007 From: 57healey at gmail.com (Patton Dickson) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:35:48 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Bonneville Healey In-Reply-To: <8C9F37821FB35EE-3F8-1CDB@WEBMAIL-MB16.sysops.aol.com> References: <002001c8255f$9dc91120$021919ac@valued28addca9> <8C9F37821FB35EE-3F8-1CDB@WEBMAIL-MB16.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <743b1e2f0711121135y230c27e3o2018ca48436d65e2@mail.gmail.com> I have heard that story before, and it still amazes me. Is it that the salt damages all of the cars that bad, or did they just not care? You would think it would have been worth something even for scrap. Of course in 57, I doubt anyone thought of the collectibility of the cars. I would thing the motor would have at least lived on (it was a turbo charged 100-Six motor, correct???). Anyone know the specifics of that (head, turbo, carbs, ect) There is a picture in the Moss catalog showing the car in front of the Warwick Showroom, so it had at least some kind of post record PR life. Patton On Nov 12, 2007 1:19 PM, wrote: > A long time ago in a far away I once asked Donald the same question.? He said when they were finished with the car, they just parked in behind a shed.? He also said the wheel wells were filled with salt, so it probably didn't last too long. > Rudy Streng > Lenoir, NC -- Patton Dickson - http://Austin-Healeys.com - Plano, TX 1957 Austin-Healey 100-Six "Built to run 'til the road wears out." From 57healey at gmail.com Mon Nov 12 12:43:13 2007 From: 57healey at gmail.com (Patton Dickson) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:43:13 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Bonneville Healey In-Reply-To: <15101.18407.qm@web82508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <15101.18407.qm@web82508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <743b1e2f0711121143p4b057054na6d0ddd64cf8e8e2@mail.gmail.com> I forgot their were two. Which one is in the Moss catalog. I just noticed a bugeye as well as later sprites, an MGB, and what looks like a BJ7 or BJ8 in the background That means that one of the cars was still around in at least 1963. The catalog link is here (warning 11.49 MB PDF download) See page 55 http://www.mossmotors.com/SiteGraphics/CatalogPDFs/AHYC-0702.pdf On Nov 12, 2007 1:28 PM, Steven Mickelson wrote: > Both the Bonneville (1954 192.62 mph and 1956 203.11 mph) -- Patton Dickson - http://Austin-Healeys.com - Plano, TX 1957 Austin-Healey 100-Six "Built to run 'til the road wears out." From 57healey at gmail.com Mon Nov 12 12:45:27 2007 From: 57healey at gmail.com (Patton Dickson) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:45:27 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Bonneville Healey In-Reply-To: <743b1e2f0711121143p4b057054na6d0ddd64cf8e8e2@mail.gmail.com> References: <15101.18407.qm@web82508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <743b1e2f0711121143p4b057054na6d0ddd64cf8e8e2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <743b1e2f0711121145n26fb4767ke4903fe45a2861a6@mail.gmail.com> I just figured out how to zoom in off the PDF, that's a Sprite!!! What car is that? Patton On Nov 12, 2007 1:43 PM, Patton Dickson <57healey at gmail.com> wrote: > I forgot their were two. Which one is in the Moss catalog. I just > noticed a bugeye as well as later sprites, an MGB, and what looks like > a BJ7 or BJ8 in the background That means that one of the cars was > still around in at least 1963. > > The catalog link is here (warning 11.49 MB PDF download) See page 55 > > http://www.mossmotors.com/SiteGraphics/CatalogPDFs/AHYC-0702.pdf > > On Nov 12, 2007 1:28 PM, Steven Mickelson wrote: > > Both the Bonneville (1954 192.62 mph and 1956 203.11 mph) From stevemickelson at sbcglobal.net Mon Nov 12 12:54:52 2007 From: stevemickelson at sbcglobal.net (Steven Mickelson) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:54:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Bonneville Healey Message-ID: <164859.93298.qm@web82514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> According to Bill Emerson's "The Healey Book", the 200 mph streamliner was chassis SPL261 BN, Engine XSP 234-6 (much modified) with Shorrock Supercharger and special SU carburettor..."292bhp @5,000+ rpm (on special fuel)". Bill states that "... the effects of the salt on the chassis and running gear, as well as the body, rendered the car unsafe and in the 1960s, the car was stripped of usable equipment and the remnants sold for scrap". Steve M. ----- Original Message ---- From: Patton Dickson <57healey at gmail.com> To: caws52803 at aol.com Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 11:35:48 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bonneville Healey I have heard that story before, and it still amazes me. Is it that the salt damages all of the cars that bad, or did they just not care? You would think it would have been worth something even for scrap. Of course in 57, I doubt anyone thought of the collectibility of the cars. I would thing the motor would have at least lived on (it was a turbo charged 100-Six motor, correct???). Anyone know the specifics of that (head, turbo, carbs, ect) There is a picture in the Moss catalog showing the car in front of the Warwick Showroom, so it had at least some kind of post record PR life. Patton On Nov 12, 2007 1:19 PM, wrote: > A long time ago in a far away I once asked Donald the same question.? He said when they were finished with the car, they just parked in behind a shed.? He also said the wheel wells were filled with salt, so it probably didn't last too long. > Rudy Streng > Lenoir, NC -- Patton Dickson - http://Austin-Healeys.com - Plano, TX 1957 Austin-Healey 100-Six "Built to run 'til the road wears out." Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From Editorgary at aol.com Mon Nov 12 13:01:22 2007 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:01:22 EST Subject: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 1, Issue 302 Message-ID: In a message dated 11/12/07 11:01:50 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > Hi to the many of you that own late Minis. I have an opportunity to buy > a 2006 S with just barely 10,000 miles from a lady in my building. It > has moon/sun/whatever roof option and all the other bells and whistles, > 6-speed automatic with the steering wheel paddles. Tires still look > fine. I drove this car when she bought it new and What A Great Ride it > was!! Anyway, she's asking $22.5k. Is this too much money, just about > right, or what?? > That sounds pretty good to me; the auto box isn't quite as desirable as the stick shift, but won't diminish the handling pleasure available with any MINI, and won't change your performance very much. Good advice to check the inventories of used MINIs at the dealers to get a good idea of value. Cheers Gary Anderson Editor-at-Large, MC2 MINI magazine ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From grumpyinloomis at ssctv.net Mon Nov 12 13:11:54 2007 From: grumpyinloomis at ssctv.net (Jerry Costanzo) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:11:54 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Resale value on new minis References: Message-ID: <003f01c82568$453707c0$0400a8c0@cardinalhealth.net> I have been watching these new Minis for awhile and the resale value is pretty high. On Ebay the "buy it now" price seems in many cases close to a new Mini. I have never found anyone that did not like the cars. Only a young couple that said a car seat did not fit into the back and they would have to sell as they were expecting. From rwil at sbcglobal.net Mon Nov 12 13:26:33 2007 From: rwil at sbcglobal.net (Roland Wilhelmy) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:26:33 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Resale value on new minis In-Reply-To: <003f01c82568$453707c0$0400a8c0@cardinalhealth.net> References: <003f01c82568$453707c0$0400a8c0@cardinalhealth.net> Message-ID: Our two grandchildren both fit in car seats in our son's and daughter in law's new Mini's back seat. And room behind the back seat for all the stuff that goes with them. For longer trips they do take their Subaru. I would guess that the young couple you spoke with either didn't try, took someone else's word or had other reasons for the sale. -Roland On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:11:54 -0800, you wrote: ::I have been watching these new Minis for awhile and the resale value is ::pretty high. On Ebay the "buy it now" price seems in many cases close to a ::new Mini. :: ::I have never found anyone that did not like the cars. Only a young couple ::that said a car seat did not fit into the back and they would have to sell ::as they were expecting. From wilko2 at cox.net Mon Nov 12 14:52:17 2007 From: wilko2 at cox.net (wilko2 at cox.net) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:52:17 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Bonneville Healey In-Reply-To: <743b1e2f0711121145n26fb4767ke4903fe45a2861a6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20071112165217.XHQYG.7815.root@fed1wml02.mgt.cox.net> See page 46 of that PDF for the two six cylinder streamliners at Bonneville. Wilko San DIego. ---- Patton Dickson <57healey at gmail.com> wrote: > I just figured out how to zoom in off the PDF, that's a Sprite!!! > What car is that? > > Patton > > On Nov 12, 2007 1:43 PM, Patton Dickson <57healey at gmail.com> wrote: > > I forgot their were two. Which one is in the Moss catalog. I just > > noticed a bugeye as well as later sprites, an MGB, and what looks like > > a BJ7 or BJ8 in the background That means that one of the cars was > > still around in at least 1963. > > > > The catalog link is here (warning 11.49 MB PDF download) See page 55 > > > > http://www.mossmotors.com/SiteGraphics/CatalogPDFs/AHYC-0702.pdf > > > > On Nov 12, 2007 1:28 PM, Steven Mickelson wrote: > > > Both the Bonneville (1954 192.62 mph and 1956 203.11 mph) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From steveg at abrazosdata.com Mon Nov 12 15:29:47 2007 From: steveg at abrazosdata.com (Steve B. Gerow) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:29:47 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] fuel gallon marks by observation In-Reply-To: <9F9151BC81F3431EB026C521999ADE11@LeonardPC> Message-ID: Len, It's a stock tank I bought on ebay--I think it came from a BN4 or BT7--don't remember if the guy said. There's no way this tank will hold 14.4 gallons--even to the top of the filler neck. I realize those are the specs but that's what I observed. I used a measuring cup to achieve 1 gallon in a straight-sided kitty-litter bucket, which I marked, then used the bucket to fill the tank. I rocked the tank to make sure air bubbles got out. The 6-3/4 is about 1" up into the neck. Let's put this back on the newsgroup so maybe others can shed some light or heat. It'd be interesting to see if anyone else has actually measured one of these tanks. As a side thought--does your cooling system hold as much as the book says? Mine seems to be full at a couple of quarts less. I'd be curious if the Nocks with all their used parts have ever measured one of these tanks. > From: "Leonard Hartnett" > Reply-To: "Leonard Hartnett" > Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:36:08 -0800 > To: "Steve B. Gerow" > Subject: Re: [Healeys] fuel gallon marks by observation > > Steve: I'm a little confused by your figures. Is your BN6 gas tank > different than a BJ8's? According to my Moss catalog, the same tank applies > to BN4 from 68960 through BJ8. My original tank in 5 inches deep with a > capacity of 14.4 US gallons (Driver's Handbook). Is your 6 3/4 " > measurement for 13.75 gallons measured up into the neck? > > I made my stick by dividing 5 inches by 14.4 gallons and came up with .347 > inches per gallon. Adding .347 inches per gallon I came up with > approximately the following measurements for the gallons: > > 2 gal 1 1/16 > 4 gal 1 3/4 > 6 gal 2 7/16 > 8 gal 3 1/8 > 10 gal 3 13/16 > 12 gal 4 1/2 > 14 gal 5 3/16 > > Quite a bit different from yours. Where are our differences? > > (The Other) Len > Vacaville, California, USA > 1967 3000 MKIII, HBJ8L39031 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve B. Gerow" > To: "Healeys Newsgroup" > Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 9:54 PM > Subject: [Healeys] fuel gallon marks by observation > > >> I've observed the following marks by adding water to a completely dry >> undistorted original tank mounted on sawhorses and leveled. I've repeated >> this twice as a check: >> >> 2 Gal 15/16" >> 4 G 1-7/8" >> 6 G 2-9/16" >> 8 G 3-15/16" >> 10 G 4" >> 12 G 5-1/8" >> 13.75 G 6-3/4" >> >> It's important that the side with the marks is down and against the side >> of >> the filler tube. >> -- >> Steve Gerow >> Pasadena CA >> 59 BN6 >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From wsteinman at pogolaw.com Mon Nov 12 15:31:43 2007 From: wsteinman at pogolaw.com (Steinman, Bill) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:31:43 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Resale value on new minis In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <6C74404059EB134FBA542DA75DD8488F016A8423@WDC-EXCH-VS01.US.PGFM.NET> A few years ago I rented a mini convertible (using zip cars or something similar) to take my kids to a local drive-in; I don't have a four-seat convertible, and I thought it might make the viewing experience more fun (which it did, I'm glad to report). My boys were six and three at the time, and in a booster seat and a full car seat, respectively. While they fit, I can't say that there was much room for them, and the six year old was a bit squished. My boys are tall for their age, and I have to admit I'm not sure they could repeat the exercise now! :o) Great car, though. Really loved it. Size is a matter of perspective, though. I know a guy who has an Elise and a Mini, and they describe the Mini as their "big car." Bill S. 2005 Lotus Elise 1968 Triumph TR-250 1968 MGC Tourer 1965 Sunbeam Tiger 1965 Austin Healey 3000 Mk III www.TR-250.com Tedious but unavoidable disclaimer follows... NOTICE: This communication may contain privileged or other confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, or believe that you have received this communication in error, please do not print, copy, retransmit, disseminate, or otherwise use the information. Also, please indicate to the sender that you have received this communication in error, and delete the copy you received. IRS CIRCULAR 230 Disclosure: Under U.S. Treasury regulations, we are required to inform you that any tax advice contained in this e-mail or any attachment hereto is not intended to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid penalties imposed under the Internal Revenue Code. Thank you. From sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au Mon Nov 12 15:36:23 2007 From: sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au (sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:36:23 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Bonneville Healey In-Reply-To: <002001c8255f$9dc91120$021919ac@valued28addca9> References: <002001c8255f$9dc91120$021919ac@valued28addca9> Message-ID: <1194906983.4738d56781d09@webmail.hotkey.net.au> Quoting Bob Johnson : > Does the Bonneville Healey still exist? If so, who has it, where is it? > > > Thanks, > > Bob Johnson > BJ8 > Relying on my overtaxed memory there were two Bonneville Healeys, the 4cyl. and the supercharged 6cyl.I believe the cockpit cover and steering wheel of the six were saved and 100.S guru Steve Pike is involved in the construction of a replica at this time. The car shown in the Moss catalogue is the original MG ex.181 based car that was fitted with a Sprite engine and used as a record breaker. Joe From wilko2 at cox.net Mon Nov 12 16:16:31 2007 From: wilko2 at cox.net (wilko2 at cox.net) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:16:31 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Bonneville Healey In-Reply-To: <1194906983.4738d56781d09@webmail.hotkey.net.au> Message-ID: <20071112181631.NK3DX.8963.root@fed1wml02.mgt.cox.net> IIRC, That MG EX car is at the British Heritage museum at Gaydon (IT was a few years ago when I was there) > The car shown in the Moss catalogue is the original MG ex.181 based car that > was fitted with a Sprite engine and used as a record breaker. > Joe > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From randerson33 at triad.rr.com Mon Nov 12 16:48:11 2007 From: randerson33 at triad.rr.com (randerson33 at triad.rr.com) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:48:11 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Bonneville Healey Message-ID: <4062668.1025851194911291781.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web17-z01> The car no longer exist. Bits and pieces are in USA and will be displayed in the Healey Museum. This museum will be in Virginia. RJA ---- sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au wrote: > Quoting Bob Johnson : > > > Does the Bonneville Healey still exist? If so, who has it, where is it? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Bob Johnson > > BJ8 > > > > Relying on my overtaxed memory there were two Bonneville Healeys, the 4cyl. and > the supercharged 6cyl.I believe the cockpit cover and steering wheel of the six > were saved and 100.S guru Steve Pike is involved in the construction of a > replica at this time. > The car shown in the Moss catalogue is the original MG ex.181 based car that > was fitted with a Sprite engine and used as a record breaker. > Joe > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From pennell at cox.net Mon Nov 12 18:41:54 2007 From: pennell at cox.net (pennell at cox.net) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:41:54 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Fender Bead Idea In-Reply-To: <002d01c82351$d98e6490$d587e004@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: <20071112204154.UO0PQ.12639.root@eastrmwml10> Mark, You have to remember that the shroud and the fender will still be connected by the metal bolt - the paint layer will begin giving up under the washers! What you propose would perhaps slow things down. Keith Pennell > As I was comparing the MGA to the Healey the other day I was looking at the > similarities between the 2 vehicles. > > One thing that was interesting was that MG used plastic (non corrosive) > fender beading, while Healey used polished metal. > > Has anyone tried the plastic (black or silver/grey) on the Healeys in hope > that it may offer a little extra protection between the fender flanges where > the different metals come together. The plastic beading is about an inch and > a half wide so they would cover the flanges quite thoroughly. > > I'll let you know how it works. (not original of course, but should work OK). > > Mark From healeybruce at roadrunner.com Mon Nov 12 18:59:07 2007 From: healeybruce at roadrunner.com (Healey Bruce) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:59:07 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] fuel gallon marks by observation Message-ID: <010801c82598$c7490fd0$9101a8c0@home> Steve, you may recall you sent me your dimensions, but I found they didn't jibe with my experience, either. First, I also cut the base of my stick at about a 70 degree angle, which I determined with 1 gal in the tank and observing the angle, so it would sit flat on the bottom of the tank. Then I added fuel 1 gal at a time with the tank in the car and sitting level in my garage. I inserted the stick and marked at the level shown, with each mark parallel to the base. I wanted to take my readings as they would be filling up at the pump. My increments are: Gallons Measurement 2 1 3/8" 4 2 1/4" 6 3 1/16" 8 3 13/16" 10 4 15/16" 12 5 7/16" I agree with Steve--no way 14.4 gallons fits in the tank. 12 gal is already coming up the neck. Maybe some air is trapped in the back of the tank in my method, accounting for some variation, but that wouldn't account for the differnence at the low end. Anyway, that's what happened with my method. FWIW, my stick agrees closely with my gauge once I get below 3/4 full; with fuel up the neck, my gauge reads just a bit above 3/4. Bruce Steele 1960 BN7 Brea, CA From steveg at abrazosdata.com Mon Nov 12 21:18:45 2007 From: steveg at abrazosdata.com (Steve B. Gerow) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:18:45 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] fuel gallon marks by observation In-Reply-To: <9F9151BC81F3431EB026C521999ADE11@LeonardPC> Message-ID: Bruce & Len, Will post the dipstick comparison on my gallery under tech tips. http://pbase.com/stevegerow/healey_tech Bruce, I don't think we're far off at all. Align the 2 gallon marks and our two sets of increments are pretty close except for the 10 gallon mark. I'd argue you probably had a little gas in the well around the drain plug and that accounts for the fact your 2 gallon mark is higher up than mine. That would also be why I was able to get 13.75 in there 1" up the neck. Of course, I'd argue mine is slightly more accurate because I started with a bone-dry tank perfectly level with no amount of fluid in it. Also if you were filling yours from a gas pump, I was filling mine with a measuring cup. You could argue yours is safer because the scale runs a little higher, providing a little margin for error. Get a couple more measurements and we'll really have it down accurately. -- Steve Gerow Pasadena CA 59 BN6 From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Mon Nov 12 21:38:30 2007 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Leonard Hartnett) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:38:30 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] fuel gallon marks by observation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: As one would expect, I can not find the data I am looking for in my gas record book(s). I clearly remember that on the return from the Snowmass trip with my son in 1982, pulling into a gas station out in the middle of Southwest Nowhere running on fumes. My Zemco driving computer was very accurate at that time and it told us we had no gas left. (How much would the fuel pump, fuel lines, and carburettors hold?) I pumped in over 14 gallons. I just can't document that at this time. My records do show that I have pumped in as much as 13.5 gallons at various times and that was without running out of gas or being concerned that I might do so. I have an old gas tank that I can experiment with using the water method. If we can get others to report their findings, we can average them out and maybe get fairly reliable info on just how much gasoline a gas tank holds. (The Other) Len Vacaville, California, USA 1967 3000 MKIII, HBJ8L39031 From sbyers at ec.rr.com Tue Nov 13 06:22:04 2007 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (sbyers at ec.rr.com) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 8:22:04 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] fuel gallon marks by observation Message-ID: <7199498.145831194960124421.JavaMail.root@cdptpa-web02-z01> O.K., here is another data point for the study: New BJ8 fuel tank tank from Moss Motors, already installed in the car and used. I started by siphoning out all of the gas, including whatever was in the sump, and storing it in another car. The tank was in the car, sitting level in my garage with the filler tube disconnected so that I could see the level of the gas when it approached the neck. I filled a graduated container and poured a measured gallon into an empty milk jug, then marked the level of exactly one gallon. The tank held exactly 13 gallons, 26 ounces up to the bottom of the integral filler neck on the tank. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA ---- Leonard Hartnett wrote: > As one would expect, I can not find the data I am looking for in my gas > record book(s). I clearly remember that on the return from the Snowmass > trip with my son in 1982, pulling into a gas station out in the middle of > Southwest Nowhere running on fumes. My Zemco driving computer was very > accurate at that time and it told us we had no gas left. (How much would > the fuel pump, fuel lines, and carburettors hold?) I pumped in over 14 > gallons. I just can't document that at this time. My records do show that > I have pumped in as much as 13.5 gallons at various times and that was > without running out of gas or being concerned that I might do so. > > I have an old gas tank that I can experiment with using the water method. > If we can get others to report their findings, we can average them out and > maybe get fairly reliable info on just how much gasoline a gas tank holds. > > (The Other) Len > Vacaville, California, USA > 1967 3000 MKIII, HBJ8L39031 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From tomfelts at windstream.net Tue Nov 13 06:22:30 2007 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (tomfelts at windstream.net) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 7:22:30 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] This would be hell... Message-ID: <20071113132230.UVFN29331.ispmxmta06-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> Installing the rearmost intake manifold drain tube on a BJ8. > > From: "BJ8Healeys" > Date: 2007/11/10 Sat PM 02:33:08 CST > To: > Subject: Re: [Healeys] This would be hell... > > 1. Installing carburetors on a BJ8. > 2. Installing the intake and exhaust manifolds on a BJ8 engine already in > the car. > > Steve Byers > HBJ8L/36666 > BJ8 Registry > Havelock, NC USA > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of > Editorgary at aol.com > Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 12:26 PM > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] This would be hell... > > > At our Saturday morning meeting of the Donut Derelicts, the conversation > turned to different definitions of hell, including such things as replacing > the > oil pump on a 1964 Dodge Dart (easy to see, impossible to reach with a > wrench). > If you were to define a circle of hell where punishment consisted of an > eternal assignment to do one Healey restoration or repair job over and over > again, > what would that job be? > Cheers > Gary > > > > ************************************** > See what's new at http://www.aol.com > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.23/1114 - Release Date: 11/6/2007 > 8:05 PM > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From Warthodson at aol.com Tue Nov 13 06:42:51 2007 From: Warthodson at aol.com (Warthodson at aol.com) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:42:51 EST Subject: [Healeys] fuel gallon marks by observation Message-ID: In a message dated 11/12/2007 4:26:33 PM Central Standard Time, steveg at abrazosdata.com writes: >> 2 Gal 15/16" >> 4 G 1-7/8" >> 6 G 2-9/16" >> 8 G 3-15/16" >> 10 G 4" >> 12 G 5-1/8" >> 13.75 G 6-3/4" >> There appears to be an error in the above data. Going from 8 G (3-15-16") to 10 G (4") is only 1/16" change. Gary Hodson ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From tomfelts at windstream.net Tue Nov 13 06:45:34 2007 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (tomfelts at windstream.net) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 7:45:34 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] list Message-ID: <20071113134534.CUND19750.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> Sorry, but John Doe doesn't exist.:) > > From: john doe > Date: 2007/11/12 Mon AM 07:21:21 CST > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] list > > trying to subscribe to the triumph list but to no avail can someone help me out where do i put the command in the subject or the box > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From steveg at abrazosdata.com Tue Nov 13 07:27:38 2007 From: steveg at abrazosdata.com (Steve B. Gerow) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:27:38 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] fuel gallon marks by observation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Gary, Thanks for the correction. It's a typo. Should be: 8G 3-5/16" -- Steve Gerow Pasadena CA 59 BN6 From: Warthodson at aol.com Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:42:51 EST To: steveg at abrazosdata.com, thehartnetts at earthlink.net Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] fuel gallon marks by observation In a message dated 11/12/2007 4:26:33 PM Central Standard Time, steveg at abrazosdata.com writes: >> 2 Gal 15/16" >> 4 G 1-7/8" >> 6 G 2-9/16" >> 8 G 3-15/16" >> 10 G 4" >> 12 G 5-1/8" >> 13.75 G 6-3/4" >> There appears to be an error in the above data. Going from 8 G (3-15-16") to 10 G (4") is only 1/16" change. Gary Hodson See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage . From ahbn6 at optonline.net Tue Nov 13 07:45:49 2007 From: ahbn6 at optonline.net (John Sims) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:45:49 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Gas Tanks Message-ID: <003001c82603$e24e2a70$6500a8c0@simsoffice> Correct me if I'm wrong, but following this thread leads me to believe that this is yet another thing that the Brits did to us in revenge for losing the Revolutionary War (Or Rebellion dependant upon your side of the Pond). Seems that everyone who has gong to the trouble to research this by actually doing something has come up with different measurements. Could some of the differences be attributed to different angles of placing the dowel into the tank? Replacement tanks versus originals? Leads me to believe that I should carry a spare gallon or two in a gas can. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ www.healey6.com From RonFineEsq at earthlink.net Tue Nov 13 08:51:08 2007 From: RonFineEsq at earthlink.net (Ron Fine) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:51:08 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Old Gas Message-ID: <004501c8260d$02196c30$6501a8c0@XPS400> When is gas too old to use? I have about half a tank of gas in my MGB that has been sitting for about 1 year. I am finishing the rebuild of the engine and plan to fire it up later this month. Should I dump the gas first or should it be OK. I live in Los Angeles and the car has been stored outside during this period. Ron 61 BN7 66 MGB From ahbn6 at optonline.net Tue Nov 13 08:55:56 2007 From: ahbn6 at optonline.net (John Sims) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:55:56 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Old Gas In-Reply-To: <004501c8260d$02196c30$6501a8c0@XPS400> References: <004501c8260d$02196c30$6501a8c0@XPS400> Message-ID: <003101c8260d$adbbb750$6500a8c0@simsoffice> Will probably get a variety of opinions on this. I had a half tank of gas in my BN6 for five years and it started up with no problems this Fall. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Fine Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 10:51 AM To: MG List; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Old Gas When is gas too old to use? I have about half a tank of gas in my MGB that has been sitting for about 1 year. I am finishing the rebuild of the engine and plan to fire it up later this month. Should I dump the gas first or should it be OK. I live in Los Angeles and the car has been stored outside during this period. Ron 61 BN7 66 MGB From simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk Tue Nov 13 10:33:44 2007 From: simon.lachlan at homecall.co.uk (Simon Lachlan) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:33:44 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Old Gas In-Reply-To: <004501c8260d$02196c30$6501a8c0@XPS400> References: <004501c8260d$02196c30$6501a8c0@XPS400> Message-ID: <000001c8261b$598a7dc0$0200a8c0@simonalexa> I'd use it without hesitation. Works for me over here anyhow. I'd probably "cut" it with some fresh stuff before starting up and fill up with fresh ASAP thereafter. Simon. When is gas too old to use? I have about half a tank of gas in my MGB that has been sitting for about 1 year. I am finishing the rebuild of the engine and plan to fire it up later this month. Should I dump the gas first or should it be OK. I live in Los Angeles and the car has been stored outside during this period. Ron 61 BN7 66 MGB Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From shop at justbrits.com Tue Nov 13 11:03:30 2007 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:03:30 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Old Gas References: <004501c8260d$02196c30$6501a8c0@XPS400> Message-ID: <06b401c8261f$8045d140$6601a8c0@actualshop> <> Ron: I read all the replies prior to adding my .02! Jon in AZ is the only one (so far) that has the correct answer, IMHO. Just because you ARE in CA, dump it. Remember CA gas is WAY different than the rest of the country (worse ). Ed From alan at andysnet.net Tue Nov 13 12:28:16 2007 From: alan at andysnet.net (Alan Schultz) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:28:16 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] fuel gallon marks by observation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4739FAD0.5060103@andysnet.net> Steve B. Gerow wrote: > Gary, > Thanks for the correction. It's a typo. > Should be: > 8G 3-5/16" > Wouldn't it be 4-5/16" Al Schultz 67BJ8 From steveg at abrazosdata.com Tue Nov 13 12:54:05 2007 From: steveg at abrazosdata.com (Steve B. Gerow) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:54:05 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] fuel gallon marks by observation In-Reply-To: <4739FAD0.5060103@andysnet.net> Message-ID: Alan, Nope, this is it: Orig measurements sans-typo: 2 Gal 15/16" 4 G 1-7/8" 6 G 2-9/16" 8 G 3-5/16" 10 G 4" 12 G 5-1/8" 13.75 G 6-3/4" -- Steve Gerow Pasadena CA 59 BN6 > From: Alan Schultz > Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:28:16 -0600 > To: "Steve B. Gerow" > Cc: Warthodson at aol.com, Healeys Newsgroup > Subject: Re: [Healeys] fuel gallon marks by observation > > Steve B. Gerow wrote: >> Gary, >> Thanks for the correction. It's a typo. >> Should be: >> 8G 3-5/16" >> > Wouldn't it be 4-5/16" > > Al Schultz > 67BJ8 From Kendall.Freese at aerojet.com Tue Nov 13 13:29:25 2007 From: Kendall.Freese at aerojet.com (Freese, Ken) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:29:25 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Bonneville Healey In-Reply-To: <8C9F37821FB35EE-3F8-1CDB@WEBMAIL-MB16.sysops.aol.com> References: <002001c8255f$9dc91120$021919ac@valued28addca9> <8C9F37821FB35EE-3F8-1CDB@WEBMAIL-MB16.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <1B3BD9CCDD89084C9CC405C3258017F501ED4227@SACMAIL1.aerojet.gencorp.local> I heard also that Carroll Shelby wanted it for a Cobra run, but Donald told him the same thing. Ken Freese -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+ken.freese=aerojet.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+ken.freese=aerojet.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of caws52803 at aol.com Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 11:20 AM To: robert.w.johnson at charter.net; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bonneville Healey A long time ago in a far away I once asked Donald the same question.? He said when they were finished with the car, they just parked in behind a shed.? He also said the wheel wells were filled with salt, so it probably didn't last too long. Rudy Streng Lenoir, NC From comkanuk at cgocable.ca Tue Nov 13 13:30:24 2007 From: comkanuk at cgocable.ca (gilbert gauthier) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:30:24 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Car in storage Message-ID: Hi everyone Just wanted to know , which is the best temperature to put the car in storage : humidity control in % and heat in degree I thinking about a year in storage. thank BT7 61 BN7 60 Gilbert From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Tue Nov 13 13:33:59 2007 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Leonard Hartnett) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:33:59 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] fuel gallon marks by observation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <941F9713BD8049E59496F793F204D9D6@LeonardPC> Another thought came to me. Since the figure of 14.4 US gallons came from the Driver's Handbook, the difference could be attributed to the fact that the tank did not, in fact, hold 12 British gallons as printed. The conversion at 1.2009 is correct to 14.4 gallons US. The 12 gallon (Brit) was carried forward to all the workshop manuals I have, also. I'm going with the consensus of 13 + gallons and remarking my dip stick accordingly (that's 0.385 or 3/8 inch per gallon approx.) My Final Answer! (The Other) Len Vacaville, California, USA 1967 3000 MKIII, HBJ8L39031 From todd.s.taylor at lmco.com Tue Nov 13 13:51:07 2007 From: todd.s.taylor at lmco.com (Taylor, Todd S) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:51:07 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Engine pull Message-ID: I'm trying to get my healey all stripped down so I can send it north for a Jules frame.. What's the best way to pull the engine, just wrap a chain around it or bolt hooks to the head and pull With a chain?? I have a 2 ton crane to pull it with. I've had this car along time and have never pulled the engine.. Any ideas would be appreciated.. I'll have more questions , I need to get the car totally stripped in 3 weeks.. The inside is already out and the fenders and shrouds are off. And I have spoiled gas all over my garage floor.. My wife is ready to kill me...... From jwbn6 at verizon.net Tue Nov 13 14:27:03 2007 From: jwbn6 at verizon.net (jerry wall) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:27:03 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Healeys] fuel tank markings Message-ID: <27436414.3399831194989224260.JavaMail.root@vms076.mailsrvcs.net> with all due respect to you guys and your fuel measuring sticks, i'm going to continue using my SMITHS guage, filling up when it indicates approximately 1/8th remaining. this is usually 10 gallons or so on my replacement tank from Sports & Classics, circa '90 or '91. cheers, JERRY WALL BN6 ROWLETT, TX From ahbn6 at optonline.net Tue Nov 13 14:34:18 2007 From: ahbn6 at optonline.net (John Sims) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:34:18 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] fuel tank markings In-Reply-To: <27436414.3399831194989224260.JavaMail.root@vms076.mailsrvcs.net> References: <27436414.3399831194989224260.JavaMail.root@vms076.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <006701c8263c$f2ad5c40$6500a8c0@simsoffice> Not to create a flame war or continue the thread, I think that I would rather use the stick method to VALIDATE my gauge and, then if it is materially off, consider trying to fix the gauge. Just another test item IMHO. I have a new fuel pump and sender unit and as soon as I fix my brake lines will take a spin to see what my gauge really reads. (doesnt make sense for me to start up with a perfectly sounding engine only to have no brakes at the end of my driveway which goes 60 feet down a hill to a moderately traveled road. Doubt if Hagerty would like that scenario!) That is, if it doesn't start to snow first! John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of jerry wall Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 4:27 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] fuel tank markings with all due respect to you guys and your fuel measuring sticks, i'm going to continue using my SMITHS guage, filling up when it indicates approximately 1/8th remaining. this is usually 10 gallons or so on my replacement tank from Sports & Classics, circa '90 or '91. cheers, JERRY WALL BN6 ROWLETT, TX From JNBrashear at garverengineers.com Tue Nov 13 15:07:35 2007 From: JNBrashear at garverengineers.com (Brashear, Jack, N) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:07:35 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Engine pull In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603733C9B@glitas07.garverinc.local> Fer cryin out loud don't wrap a chain around the engine!! Remove 2 head nuts, one front and one rear, and use a length of chain (or equivalent) that'll slip over a head stud and replace the nuts. Just be sure that whatever else you may use for the lifting will not slip and let that mighty mass of iron shift and crunch something expensive. I've pulled lots of AH engines and I'll attest they can be a real handful. By the way, I applaud your choice of a Jule chassis...I have one myself and I've done work on other AH that have them. Jack -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+jnbrashear=garverengineers.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+jnbrashear=garverengineers.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Taylor, Todd S Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 2:51 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Engine pull I'm trying to get my healey all stripped down so I can send it north for a Jules frame.. What's the best way to pull the engine, just wrap a chain around it or bolt hooks to the head and pull With a chain?? I have a 2 ton crane to pull it with. I've had this car along time and have never pulled the engine.. Any ideas would be appreciated.. I'll have more questions , I need to get the car totally stripped in 3 weeks.. The inside is already out and the fenders and shrouds are off. And I have spoiled gas all over my garage floor.. My wife is ready to kill me...... From bighealey at charter.net Tue Nov 13 15:49:21 2007 From: bighealey at charter.net (bighealey at charter.net) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:49:21 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Old Gas In-Reply-To: <06b401c8261f$8045d140$6601a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <20071113174921.BHNR1.158042.root@mp20> Please send all your old gas to me. At $3.50 per gallon I'll find a place to use it. Did I just say pass the gas? ---- shop at justbrits.com wrote: > <> > > Ron: > > I read all the replies prior to adding my .02! > > Jon in AZ is the only one (so far) that has the correct answer, IMHO. > > Just because you ARE in CA, dump it. Remember CA gas is WAY different than > the rest of the country (worse ). > > Ed > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From Mauser9 at aol.com Tue Nov 13 16:02:41 2007 From: Mauser9 at aol.com (Mauser9 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:02:41 EST Subject: [Healeys] 1962 BT7 Parts For Sale Message-ID: I have a BT7 with the following parts laying around in my garage. Maybe someone can use them. Email me for pics, specs, condition or numbers. 1. Side shift trans with overdrive. Missing side shift cover and maybe a few gears. I need to look. 2. Differential . I will look for numbers upon request. 3. BT7 side curtains frames and plastic etc. Looks good to me. 4. valve cover with plates intact. 5. 2 stock original wire wheels. 6. Original tonneau cover ,off white I hope to make a few bucks and help someone out. Don 760-326-4184 Needles CA ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Nov 13 16:17:44 2007 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 07:17:44 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Car in storage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Gilbert - The absolute best way to do long term storage is to buy a Car-Jacket or zipper type car bag (NOT the inflatable kind!) and park the car in that with two or three chemical dehumidifiers (like the kind used in closets or boat interiors) and you will be able to keep your car in that for 5 years if you want. Google the California Car Cover company and you will see the silver colored car bags in there. Best, Alan On 11/14/07, gilbert gauthier wrote: > Hi everyone > > Just wanted to know , which is the best temperature to put the > car in storage : humidity control in % and heat in degree I thinking > about a year in storage. > > thank > > BT7 61 > BN7 60 > > Gilbert > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > -- Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 From MGIROUX at SGL.COM Tue Nov 13 16:11:54 2007 From: MGIROUX at SGL.COM (Michael Giroux) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:11:54 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] US vs Imperial Gallon In-Reply-To: <20071113174921.BHNR1.158042.root@mp20> References: <06b401c8261f$8045d140$6601a8c0@actualshop> <20071113174921.BHNR1.158042.root@mp20> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20071113175403.031dc4d0@10.1.0.3> Hi, At 3.50 per gallon not a bad price, this morning regular was at $1.04 per liter ( add 10 cents for premium $4.31 per US gallon), that would put regular gas at about $3.93 per US gallon. 1 US gallon is 3.7854 liters. (3.785411784 to be exact ) 1 Imperial (UK) gallon ( this is what was used in Canada some time back ) is 4.54609 liters This site has some gallon and liter comparisons , note the United Kingdom reference. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallon Mike G. 1962 BT7 At 05:49 PM 11/13/07, you wrote: >Please send all your old gas to me. At $3.50 per gallon I'll find a >place to use it. > >Did I just say pass the gas? From alan at andysnet.net Tue Nov 13 16:47:14 2007 From: alan at andysnet.net (Alan Schultz) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:47:14 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Car in storage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <473A3782.8070006@andysnet.net> Gilbert, The best advice I have for protecting a car in storage is to place it in a cocoon that uses a fan to keep it inflated. It continually changes the air in the cocoon at a good rate and prevents condensation caused by rapid changes in temperature and/or humidity. The cocoon I use every winter cost around $500 and has performed well over the past four years. Al Schultz 67HBJ8 gilbert gauthier wrote: > Hi everyone > > Just wanted to know , which is the best temperature to put the > car in storage : humidity control in % and heat in degree I thinking > about a year in storage. From Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au Tue Nov 13 17:01:16 2007 From: Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au (Quinn, Patrick) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:01:16 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Bonneville Healey In-Reply-To: <743b1e2f0711121135y230c27e3o2018ca48436d65e2@mail.gmail.com> References: <002001c8255f$9dc91120$021919ac@valued28addca9><8C9F37821FB35EE-3F8-1CDB@WEBMAIL-MB16.sysops.aol.com> <743b1e2f0711121135y230c27e3o2018ca48436d65e2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3CFB7014611C6F418B529D81EC0708C70169EDD6@itfexch5.central.det.win> G'day The history of both the 4 and 6 cylinder record breaking cars is an interesting one but none still exist. However the iron headed 100/S engine used in the 4-cyl record breaking car still exists and is in a 100/M here in Australia. As far as the 6-cylinder cars go the supercharged engine blew up on the very last run. In one of books and I can't recall whether it was on of Geoff's books or Donald's it refers to the engine going bang as he changed in 5th. Yes I did write 5th and not top. If you look close enough at the books and put together bits and pieces you will see that they used the 5-speed transaxle from the ex de Portago Ferrari in the supercharged car. There is also a Carroll Shelby connection here too. This was before he joined forces with AC to make the Cobra. Shelby arrived at the DHMC with the idea of making up a car with V8 power and English chassis. GCH said he was welcome to the record breaking cars that were at Warwick. However they were too far gone to be of use. An approach without success was also made direct to BMC for a chassis/body to try with a V8. Now 50 so years later there is no point in lamenting why these cars were left to rot. DMH and GCH were automotive engineers who were always looking ahead at the next design or race. They especially were also looking where the wages were coming from to pay the staff on Friday. To properly care for old chassis/body units that had served their purpose was just not profitable and very time consuming. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn 1947 Healey Duncan Saloon 1954 Austin-Healey 100 BN3/1 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+patrick.quinn=det.nsw.edu.au at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+patrick.quinn=det.nsw.edu.au at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Patton Dickson Sent: Tuesday, 13 November 2007 6:36 AM To: caws52803 at aol.com Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bonneville Healey I have heard that story before, and it still amazes me. Is it that the salt damages all of the cars that bad, or did they just not care? You would think it would have been worth something even for scrap. Of course in 57, I doubt anyone thought of the collectibility of the cars. I would thing the motor would have at least lived on (it was a turbo charged 100-Six motor, correct???). Anyone know the specifics of that (head, turbo, carbs, ect) There is a picture in the Moss catalog showing the car in front of the Warwick Showroom, so it had at least some kind of post record PR life. Patton ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From ahbn6 at optonline.net Tue Nov 13 17:23:14 2007 From: ahbn6 at optonline.net (John Sims) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:23:14 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Old Gas In-Reply-To: <20071113174921.BHNR1.158042.root@mp20> References: <06b401c8261f$8045d140$6601a8c0@actualshop> <20071113174921.BHNR1.158042.root@mp20> Message-ID: <006b01c82654$8c2f7d50$6500a8c0@simsoffice> Ya know, it is exchanges like this that keeps me a confirmed list maven rather than a forum weenie. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of bighealey at charter.net Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 5:49 PM To: MG List; shop at justbrits.com; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Old Gas Please send all your old gas to me. At $3.50 per gallon I'll find a place to use it. Did I just say pass the gas? ---- shop at justbrits.com wrote: > <> > > Ron: > > I read all the replies prior to adding my .02! > > Jon in AZ is the only one (so far) that has the correct answer, IMHO. > > Just because you ARE in CA, dump it. Remember CA gas is WAY different than > the rest of the country (worse ). > > Ed From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Tue Nov 13 17:26:47 2007 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Leonard Hartnett) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:26:47 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Old Gas In-Reply-To: <06b401c8261f$8045d140$6601a8c0@actualshop> References: <004501c8260d$02196c30$6501a8c0@XPS400> <06b401c8261f$8045d140$6601a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <4CB8269778794E7592497136739607A0@LeonardPC> Hmm! Is it just me? I never saw a response from Jon in AZ. (The Other) Len Vacaville, California, USA 1967 3000 MKIII, HBJ8L39031 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "MG List" ; Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Old Gas > > Jon in AZ is the only one (so far) that has the correct answer, IMHO. From schauss at worldnet.att.net Tue Nov 13 18:20:05 2007 From: schauss at worldnet.att.net (Peter Schauss) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:20:05 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Engine pull In-Reply-To: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603733C9B@glitas07.garverinc.local> Message-ID: <20071114012050.40ED7187A0A@autox.team.net> I used the brackets that Moss sells for this purpose, attached to the studs which hold the valve cover on. They were strong enough to hold both the engine and the gearbox. If you look at some of the old pictures from the factory, that is the way the lifted these engines. With the front shroud in place, you would need a device for tilting the whole rig, but in your case that probably will not be necessary. Peter Schauss 1963 BJ7 1980 MGB > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces+jnbrashear=garverengineers.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces+jnbrashear=garverengineers.com at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Taylor, Todd S > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 2:51 PM > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] Engine pull > > I'm trying to get my healey all stripped down so I can send it north for > a Jules frame.. > > What's the best way to pull the engine, just wrap a chain around it or > bolt hooks to the head and pull > With a chain?? I have a 2 ton crane to pull it with. I've had this car > along time and have never pulled the engine.. > Any ideas would be appreciated.. > > > I'll have more questions , I need to get the car totally stripped in 3 > weeks.. The inside is already out and the fenders and shrouds are off. > And I have spoiled gas all over my garage floor.. My wife is ready to > kill me...... > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From shop at justbrits.com Tue Nov 13 18:42:14 2007 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:42:14 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Old Gas References: <004501c8260d$02196c30$6501a8c0@XPS400><06b401c8261f$8045d140$6601a8c0@actualshop> <4CB8269778794E7592497136739607A0@LeonardPC> Message-ID: <021501c8265f$95ca4970$6601a8c0@actualshop> <> Len although I don't have his mail, I beleive that he is only on the MGs List and not on Healeys. The org question was to both Lists as was my post. Ed From loftusdesign at cox.net Tue Nov 13 18:44:08 2007 From: loftusdesign at cox.net (John Loftus) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:44:08 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Engine pull Message-ID: <473A52E8.3060906@cox.net> Todd, I just replaced my motor/gearbox combo and having a tilt mechanism on the hoist makes the job a lot easier. Here are some pictures which show how much the unit needs to be tilted. Attachment points were to the rocker arm studs and manifold studs (4 chains on the tilt-o-matic) since the head was installed and torqued down. http://www.loftusdesign.net/install1.jpg http://www.loftusdesign.net/install2.jpg http://www.loftusdesign.net/install3.jpg http://www.loftusdesign.net/install4.jpg http://www.loftusdesign.net/install5.jpg Cheers, John From mgtrcars at galaxyinternet.net Tue Nov 13 19:59:07 2007 From: mgtrcars at galaxyinternet.net (Mark and Kathy) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:59:07 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Fender Bead Idea References: <20071112204154.UO0PQ.12639.root@eastrmwml10> Message-ID: <000701c8266a$685b4560$a6328304@markl946cfrd7q> I'll put a nice slather of anti seize on those suckers. Concourse anti seize of course. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Mark and Kathy" ; Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fender Bead Idea > Mark, > > You have to remember that the shroud and the fender will still be > connected by the metal bolt - the paint layer will begin giving up under > the washers! What you propose would perhaps slow things down. > > Keith Pennell From linwoodrose at mac.com Tue Nov 13 20:16:15 2007 From: linwoodrose at mac.com (linwood rose) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:16:15 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] cruise control Message-ID: <1C51C51C-8A39-46C4-8465-779B8873C933@mac.com> I have been rebuilding, restoring and personalizing my 60 BT7 for some serious traveling when completed. I had considered and rejected the possibility of cruise control, but as a last minute modification I did purchase and plan to install the Audiovox cruise unit sold by J.C. Whitney - I was thinking about those long and flat mid-western drives. I believe this is the unit that is most popularly used on Big Healeys. I am seeking some advice on preferred locations for the servo unit. I have seen one or two mounted on the right diagonal firewall brace, but I have located my radiator overflow tank in that location. Any help on location of the servo or any other tips on installing the cruise control assembly would be appreciated. Thanks. Lin 1960 BT7 in restoration 1959 Bugeye From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Nov 13 20:18:11 2007 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:18:11 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Car in storage In-Reply-To: <473A3782.8070006@andysnet.net> References: <473A3782.8070006@andysnet.net> Message-ID: Gilbert / Alan - My major problem with the carcoon is: 1) The thing takes up space in your garage 2) You have to plug it in and keep it plugged in all the time. 3) It does not prevent ambient humidity from building up in the carcoon and in places/times of year with high humidity it will not be good for your car. Again, go for the car storage bag and put in chemical dehumidifiers in there with the car. Once in - it is sealed and dry. I have put my BJ8 for as much as a year here in 100% humidity Hong Kong and unzipped the bag a year later and the car's disk brakes have no rust on them at all and there was still fuel in the float bowls. No dust, no mildew, no rust. The car started right up and drove off as if it was parked the night before. In addition this car storage bag does not take up space in the garage and works well as long as it is under cover (it works if open to the elements as long as it's covered from the rain). I usually zip up my car in the storage bag if I plan on not driving for a week or more. It takes 3 minutes to put in the bag and 2 minutes to take it out. Have a look: http://www.calcarcover.com/product.aspx?id=76&cid=8 HIGHLY recommended. Alan On 11/14/07, Alan Schultz wrote: > Gilbert, > The best advice I have for protecting a car in storage is to place it in > a cocoon that uses a fan to keep it inflated. It continually changes the > air in the cocoon at a good rate and prevents condensation caused by > rapid changes in temperature and/or humidity. The cocoon I use every > winter cost around $500 and has performed well over the past four years. > > Al Schultz > 67HBJ8 > > gilbert gauthier wrote: > > Hi everyone > > > > Just wanted to know , which is the best temperature to put the > > car in storage : humidity control in % and heat in degree I thinking > > about a year in storage. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > -- Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 From trhouse at greenapple.com Tue Nov 13 21:02:53 2007 From: trhouse at greenapple.com (Tom Householder) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:02:53 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Bonneville Healey/salt In-Reply-To: <3CFB7014611C6F418B529D81EC0708C70169EDD6@itfexch5.central.det.win> Message-ID: > There is also a Carroll Shelby connection here too. This was before he > joined forces with AC to make the Cobra. Shelby arrived at the DHMC with > the idea of making up a car with V8 power and English chassis. GCH said > he was welcome to the record breaking cars that were at Warwick. However > they were too far gone to be of use. An approach without success was > also made direct to BMC for a chassis/body to try with a V8. I have a photo of Shelbys wrecked healey here . Mexico I seem to recall It didn't like rocks!!! pretty mangled up. tom From Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au Tue Nov 13 21:14:35 2007 From: Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au (Quinn, Patrick) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:14:35 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Bonneville Healey/salt In-Reply-To: References: <3CFB7014611C6F418B529D81EC0708C70169EDD6@itfexch5.central.det.win> Message-ID: <3CFB7014611C6F418B529D81EC0708C70169EDE6@itfexch5.central.det.win> G'day Tom That was some years before he was thinking of shoehorning a V8 into a British car. It was 1955 and after being part of the AH record breaking team he partnered with Roy Jackson-Moore in a 100S for the Carrera Panamericana Road Race only to demolish his car in practice against a road marker. Shelby suffered a broken arm as a result. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: Tom Householder [mailto:trhouse at greenapple.com] Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2007 3:03 PM To: Quinn, Patrick; Patton Dickson; caws52803 at aol.com Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bonneville Healey/salt > There is also a Carroll Shelby connection here too. This was before he > joined forces with AC to make the Cobra. Shelby arrived at the DHMC with > the idea of making up a car with V8 power and English chassis. GCH said > he was welcome to the record breaking cars that were at Warwick. However > they were too far gone to be of use. An approach without success was > also made direct to BMC for a chassis/body to try with a V8. I have a photo of Shelbys wrecked healey here . Mexico I seem to recall It didn't like rocks!!! pretty mangled up. tom ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au Tue Nov 13 21:16:15 2007 From: Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au (Quinn, Patrick) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:16:15 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Bonneville Healey/salt In-Reply-To: <3CFB7014611C6F418B529D81EC0708C70169EDE6@itfexch5.central.det.win> References: <3CFB7014611C6F418B529D81EC0708C70169EDD6@itfexch5.central.det.win> <3CFB7014611C6F418B529D81EC0708C70169EDE6@itfexch5.central.det.win> Message-ID: <3CFB7014611C6F418B529D81EC0708C70169EDE8@itfexch5.central.det.win> G'day Again Actually it was 1954. Regards Patrick -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+patrick.quinn=det.nsw.edu.au at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+patrick.quinn=det.nsw.edu.au at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Quinn, Patrick Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2007 3:15 PM To: Tom Householder; Patton Dickson; caws52803 at aol.com Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bonneville Healey/salt G'day Tom That was some years before he was thinking of shoehorning a V8 into a British car. It was 1955 and after being part of the AH record breaking team he partnered with Roy Jackson-Moore in a 100S for the Carrera Panamericana Road Race only to demolish his car in practice against a road marker. Shelby suffered a broken arm as a result. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: Tom Householder [mailto:trhouse at greenapple.com] Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2007 3:03 PM To: Quinn, Patrick; Patton Dickson; caws52803 at aol.com Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bonneville Healey/salt > There is also a Carroll Shelby connection here too. This was before he > joined forces with AC to make the Cobra. Shelby arrived at the DHMC with > the idea of making up a car with V8 power and English chassis. GCH said > he was welcome to the record breaking cars that were at Warwick. However > they were too far gone to be of use. An approach without success was > also made direct to BMC for a chassis/body to try with a V8. I have a photo of Shelbys wrecked healey here . Mexico I seem to recall It didn't like rocks!!! pretty mangled up. tom ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From Rusd at sitestar.net Tue Nov 13 21:20:14 2007 From: Rusd at sitestar.net (Dave Russell) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:20:14 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Old Gas In-Reply-To: <4CB8269778794E7592497136739607A0@LeonardPC> References: <004501c8260d$02196c30$6501a8c0@XPS400> <06b401c8261f$8045d140$6601a8c0@actualshop> <4CB8269778794E7592497136739607A0@LeonardPC> Message-ID: <473A777E.6070401@sitestar.net> Hi len, Not just you. I looked for quite a while, no luck. maybe I'm just getting blind? Dave Russell Leonard Hartnett wrote: >Hmm! Is it just me? I never saw a response from Jon in AZ. > >(The Other) Len >Vacaville, California, USA >1967 3000 MKIII, HBJ8L39031 > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: "MG List" ; >Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 10:03 AM >Subject: Re: [Healeys] Old Gas > > >>Jon in AZ is the only one (so far) that has the correct answer, IMHO. From mkgoodman at worldnet.att.net Tue Nov 13 21:40:10 2007 From: mkgoodman at worldnet.att.net (Mark Goodman) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:40:10 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Polish Digital Clock,, In-Reply-To: <005701c82624$e9d92760$6500a8c0@simsoffice> References: <005701c82624$e9d92760$6500a8c0@simsoffice> Message-ID: <005a01c82678$9b998640$d2cc92c0$@att.net> >From John Sims: Every now and again there comes along a graphic so good that it just blows you away. The University of Poland science students have finally finished their digital clock they have been working on for 4 years. Go to this site to see the results: http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html Wait for it to load. This is a real clock, and it's accurate. And check the time out too. From ed.reiss at hotmail.com Tue Nov 13 21:47:29 2007 From: ed.reiss at hotmail.com (Ed Reiss) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:47:29 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Bugeye carb question Message-ID: I have a 60 bugeye with the HS1 carbs. I don't have the spacers that go between the carb and heat shield. If anyone has a couple they'd part with contact me off list. Otherwise, if I can get the thickness of one of them I can make a couple of new ones. Thanks. _________________________________________________________________ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks & Treats for You! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us From stevemickelson at sbcglobal.net Tue Nov 13 22:42:05 2007 From: stevemickelson at sbcglobal.net (Steven Mickelson) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:42:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Polish Digital Clock,, Message-ID: <867066.80988.qm@web82507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Cool clock, definitely "digital", definitely Polish, 15 hours ahead of Polish time, but one day behind, so Eastern Standard Time yesterday compared to Warsaw? Like Willie Nelson sang about Cowboys, "one step in back of and two steps behind, themselves, and their slow movin' dreams." Steve M. ----- Original Message ---- From: Mark Goodman To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 8:40:10 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Polish Digital Clock,, >From John Sims: Every now and again there comes along a graphic so good that it just blows you away. The University of Poland science students have finally finished their digital clock they have been working on for 4 years. Go to this site to see the results: http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html Wait for it to load. This is a real clock, and it's accurate. And check the time out too. Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From ktaplin at prexar.com Wed Nov 14 02:47:16 2007 From: ktaplin at prexar.com (Ken Taplin) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:47:16 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] engine pull Message-ID: <002201c826a3$58340cb0$31876341@YOUR85A8F7B8EC> You certainly need the tilting mechanism on your hoist but also helps to raise the back of the car about a foot off the floor. From ah at jharper.demon.co.uk Wed Nov 14 02:42:27 2007 From: ah at jharper.demon.co.uk (John Harper) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:42:27 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] fuel gallon marks by observation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have not read all the details on this subject so maybe I have missed it but I have not seen anything written that recognises that British Imperial gallons are not the same as US gallons 1 liquid US gallon = 0.833 imperial gallon The fuel tanks would have been defined in imperial gallons and therefore a nominal 12 gallon Austin-Healey tank would in theory hold 14.4 US gallons Regards > > >>> 2 Gal 15/16" >>> 4 G 1-7/8" >>> 6 G 2-9/16" >>> 8 G 3-15/16" >>> 10 G 4" >>> 12 G 5-1/8" >>> 13.75 G 6-3/4" >>> > >There appears to be an error in the above data. Going from 8 G (3-15-16") to >10 G (4") is only 1/16" change. >Gary Hodson > -- John Harper From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Nov 14 04:21:30 2007 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:21:30 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] fuel gallon marks by observation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes but you all forget the standard BJ8 in theory put out 150 bhp according to the factory but 150 less 10% was probably more like it. Same with the gas tank! On 11/14/07, John Harper wrote: > I have not read all the details on this subject so maybe I have missed > it but I have not seen anything written that recognises that British > Imperial gallons are not the same as US gallons > > 1 liquid US gallon = 0.833 imperial gallon > > The fuel tanks would have been defined in imperial gallons and therefore > a nominal 12 gallon Austin-Healey tank would in theory hold 14.4 US > gallons > > Regards > > > > > > >>> 2 Gal 15/16" > >>> 4 G 1-7/8" > >>> 6 G 2-9/16" > >>> 8 G 3-15/16" > >>> 10 G 4" > >>> 12 G 5-1/8" > >>> 13.75 G 6-3/4" > >>> > > > >There appears to be an error in the above data. Going from 8 G (3-15-16") > to > >10 G (4") is only 1/16" change. > >Gary Hodson > > > > -- > John Harper > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > -- Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 From varley at cosmos.net.au Wed Nov 14 04:49:12 2007 From: varley at cosmos.net.au (Larry Varley) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:49:12 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Kilmartin Message-ID: <473AE0B8.9060707@cosmos.net.au> Guys I have just updated the Kilmartin Sheetmetal page with new price lists. The address is - http://www.users.bigpond.com/acmefluid/kilmartin.html As usual, no financial interest etc. etc. Cheers Larry Varley Austin Healey 100 Restoration Site http://www.acmefluid.com.au/larry/ From dwhite4949 at wowway.com Wed Nov 14 07:33:43 2007 From: dwhite4949 at wowway.com (Daniel and Diane White) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:33:43 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] California Car Cover bag Message-ID: <473B0747.1010402@wowway.com> Alan, I'm looking at the storage bags on the Cal Cover site and I really like the idea. Can I ask what size you have? I'm looking at the 10'6" x 16' (smallest and least expensive). Also, what size and how many "anti-humidity" bags do you put inside the storage bag? Here in Michigan we get those winter days when the temp and humidity are just right so that everything in my attached but unheated garage "sweats". Regards, Dan White '62 BN7 Mk II From dan at warner-associates.com Wed Nov 14 08:23:15 2007 From: dan at warner-associates.com (Dan Stromquist) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:23:15 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] FW: California Car Cover bag Message-ID: <000101c826d2$46bc43b0$3500000a@warner.com> Alan: Look closer. There is a size 9-6 by 15 listed SKU: #CB1L that might be a better fit and a few bucks cheaper also? Send me the response if it just goes to you. This sounds like a good idea for Minnesota. How much protection against the occasional bump from a snow shovel does the padded one offer and does 20 below zero hurt the product? Dan -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+dan=warner-associates.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+dan=warner-associates.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Daniel and Diane White Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 8:34 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] California Car Cover bag Alan, I'm looking at the storage bags on the Cal Cover site and I really like the idea. Can I ask what size you have? I'm looking at the 10'6" x 16' (smallest and least expensive). Also, what size and how many "anti-humidity" bags do you put inside the storage bag? Here in Michigan we get those winter days when the temp and humidity are just right so that everything in my attached but unheated garage "sweats". Regards, Dan White '62 BN7 Mk II Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Nov 14 08:27:57 2007 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:27:57 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] California Car Cover bag In-Reply-To: <473B0747.1010402@wowway.com> References: <473B0747.1010402@wowway.com> Message-ID: Dan - Check the car length but I'm pretty sure the smallest size works. Also check your local super drug store (a big one that will have fishing tackle and ammo) and check the aisle where they will have household care stuff. They should sell these plastic containers that are used in closets to keep clothes dry and mildew free - I'll usually use about three or four of them. One in the cockpit, one in the trunk, and one just behind each front wheel under the car. That should do it. Alan On 11/14/07, Daniel and Diane White wrote: > Alan, > I'm looking at the storage bags on the Cal Cover site and I really like > the idea. Can I ask what size you have? I'm looking at the 10'6" x > 16' (smallest and least expensive). Also, what size and how many > "anti-humidity" bags do you put inside the storage bag? Here in > Michigan we get those winter days when the temp and humidity are just > right so that everything in my attached but unheated garage "sweats". > Regards, > Dan White > '62 BN7 Mk II > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > -- Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 From robert.w.johnson at charter.net Wed Nov 14 09:41:20 2007 From: robert.w.johnson at charter.net (Bob Johnson) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:41:20 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Polish Digital Clock,, References: <005701c82624$e9d92760$6500a8c0@simsoffice> <005a01c82678$9b998640$d2cc92c0$@att.net> Message-ID: <011801c826dd$2f63b2b0$021919ac@valued28addca9> The time is exactly the local time of my computer. If it is doing that for everyone, that really is pretty cool. It looked at your computer to get your time. Bob Johnson BJ8 > >From John Sims: > > > Every now and again there comes along a graphic so good that it just blows > you away. > > The University of Poland science students have finally finished > > their digital clock they have been working on for 4 years. Go to > this site to see the results: > > http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html > From MedLabInc at msn.com Wed Nov 14 09:45:13 2007 From: MedLabInc at msn.com (Dick Matson) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:45:13 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: California Car Cover bag Message-ID: After storing has anyone ever found a mouse nest in the heating air duct. I did one time. So when the new air ducts went on I put a screen in front of the inlet like the cool air duct side has. Dick / Bj8 ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel and Diane White To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 6:33 AM Subject: [Healeys] California Car Cover bag Alan, I'm looking at the storage bags on the Cal Cover site and I really like the idea. Can I ask what size you have? I'm looking at the 10'6" x 16' (smallest and least expensive). Also, what size and how many "anti-humidity" bags do you put inside the storage bag? Here in Michigan we get those winter days when the temp and humidity are just right so that everything in my attached but unheated garage "sweats". Regards, Dan White '62 BN7 Mk II From rotaryman at cox.net Wed Nov 14 09:46:45 2007 From: rotaryman at cox.net (patrick harris) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:46:45 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] frame 100-m Message-ID: <003801c826dd$f14e2f40$6401a8c0@FRYS> Just wondering what the experts out there recommend as the preferred method is to check the suspension and frame alignment. My 100 sustained a push to rh side front rail, fairly minor but some twisting visible when looking at from below. I have a dimension for frame to check all the measurements but what is hard to tell is where the lower suspension arm mounts if there is any problem there. There are alot of angles to measure to see if any of them are off. I live in San Diego and have asked a few frame shops but they all do not want to mess with a car that is not listed in the computers etc as far as the frame specs for the frame machines. My thought was to assemble all the front and lower suspension back onto car and wheel it it to someone have them align it, it seems I need someone with a good old frame post but just wondering if anyone has had this issue and if they know of someone in the local southern cal. area to recommend. Thanks From s.hutchings at rogers.com Wed Nov 14 10:30:08 2007 From: s.hutchings at rogers.com (Stephen Hutchings) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:30:08 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: California Car Cover bag Message-ID: That's a good idea. I found my heating duct totally blocked by an extensive mouse-condo development! Stephen, BJ8 After storing has anyone ever found a mouse nest in the heating air duct. I did one time. So when the new air ducts went on I put a screen in front of the inlet like the cool air duct side has. Dick / Bj8 From alan at andysnet.net Wed Nov 14 11:13:03 2007 From: alan at andysnet.net (Alan Schultz) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:13:03 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Polish Digital Clock,, In-Reply-To: <011801c826dd$2f63b2b0$021919ac@valued28addca9> References: <005701c82624$e9d92760$6500a8c0@simsoffice> <005a01c82678$9b998640$d2cc92c0$@att.net> <011801c826dd$2f63b2b0$021919ac@valued28addca9> Message-ID: <473B3AAF.6090801@andysnet.net> Its correct for CST here in Watertown, Wisconsin. Bob Johnson wrote: > The time is exactly the local time of my computer. If it is doing that for > everyone, that really is pretty cool. It looked at your computer to get your > time. > > Bob Johnson From s.hutchings at rogers.com Wed Nov 14 12:36:50 2007 From: s.hutchings at rogers.com (Stephen Hutchings) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:36:50 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Timing gear removal Message-ID: I'm removing the gears and chain from my engine in preparation for taking out the cam (not a rebuild, I just have to get the cam out) , and I'm having trouble with the crank gear. I've got the perfect little two legged puller which has just begun to move the cam gear, but the crank one is more stubborn. I wondered if anyone may have a trick here, because I don't want to put much lateral force on the chain, but there is very little room behind this gear for leverage. The manual's suggestion of two screw drivers at 180 degrees to one another is not working for me. Thanks, Stephen, BJ8 From stevemickelson at sbcglobal.net Wed Nov 14 12:44:21 2007 From: stevemickelson at sbcglobal.net (Steven Mickelson) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:44:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Polish Digital Clock,, Message-ID: <412943.67628.qm@web82510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The first time I followed the link, it, or I, was all screwed up...but this time it was exactly in sync with my computer's clock (PST...California). I felt a little stupid watching it, but it was mesmerizing and my mind was more at peace after about 3 minutes and 47 seconds. Maybe this will help speed things up in Poland. Last time I was there it took two hours to get about 1000USD from my ATM card and almost two months to clear a 2000USD "certified" check from Wells Fargo. Steve M. ----- Original Message ---- From: Alan Schultz To: Bob Johnson Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 10:13:03 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Polish Digital Clock,, Its correct for CST here in Watertown, Wisconsin. Bob Johnson wrote: > The time is exactly the local time of my computer. If it is doing that for > everyone, that really is pretty cool. It looked at your computer to get your > time. > > Bob Johnson Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From dcongleton at embarqmail.com Wed Nov 14 12:49:27 2007 From: dcongleton at embarqmail.com (Dallas Congleton) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:49:27 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Polish Digital Clock,, References: <005701c82624$e9d92760$6500a8c0@simsoffice><005a01c82678$9b998640$d2cc92c0$@att.net><011801c826dd$2f63b2b0$021919ac@valued28addca9> <473B3AAF.6090801@andysnet.net> Message-ID: <009201c826f7$77cf48b0$0201a8c0@your4dacd0ea75> If it is accessing our computer I wonder how "cool" that really is. Probably innocuous, but the access is disturbing, with all the firewalls, antispyware, etc. that we are supposed to have- ;>) Dallas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Schultz" To: "Bob Johnson" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Polish Digital Clock,, > Its correct for CST here in Watertown, Wisconsin. > > > Bob Johnson wrote: >> The time is exactly the local time of my computer. If it is doing that >> for >> everyone, that really is pretty cool. It looked at your computer to get >> your >> time. >> >> Bob Johnson From ahbn6 at optonline.net Wed Nov 14 13:09:03 2007 From: ahbn6 at optonline.net (John Sims) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:09:03 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Polish Digital Clock,, In-Reply-To: <009201c826f7$77cf48b0$0201a8c0@your4dacd0ea75> References: <005701c82624$e9d92760$6500a8c0@simsoffice> <005a01c82678$9b998640$d2cc92c0$@att.net> <011801c826dd$2f63b2b0$021919ac@valued28addca9> <473B3AAF.6090801@andysnet.net> <009201c826f7$77cf48b0$0201a8c0@your4dacd0ea75> Message-ID: <00b401c826fa$344b51d0$6500a8c0@simsoffice> All it does is read the internal clock on your computer the same way that your desktop finds the time to display the time on the bottom right corner of your screen. A lot of other programs that you have on your computer also access this clock -- MS Word, etc. That is how the time stamp is put on your documents when you create them. Look at the message that you sent where it reads "Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 2:49pn" I rest my case. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dallas Congleton Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 2:49 PM To: Alan Schultz; Bob Johnson Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Polish Digital Clock,, If it is accessing our computer I wonder how "cool" that really is. Probably innocuous, but the access is disturbing, with all the firewalls, antispyware, etc. that we are supposed to have- ;>) Dallas From fredcrowley at teamhealeytexas.com Wed Nov 14 13:24:32 2007 From: fredcrowley at teamhealeytexas.com (Fred Crowley) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:24:32 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] [Vintage-race] Real Castor oil products In-Reply-To: <978493.76690.qm@web81312.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <978493.76690.qm@web81312.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <473B5980.5080507@teamhealeytexas.com> Being a engineer to the 1st order of laziness, I get that wonderful old castor oil smell from my exhaust by putting about a 1/2 cup per 10 gallons of actual castor oil in my fuel. Gives me a great advantage in racing as competitors who are coming behind me to pass, get mesmerized by such a wonderful car that produces these smells, and forget that were in fact going faster than me. Old age and treachery, etc. I buy a gallon of the stuff at my local pharmacy. It's also great entertainment to mess with the pharmacist's head by saying that I use several cupfuls a day. Jeanice says I'm way too easily entertained. As always, keep supporting me in my delusions! Y'all take care, eh? Fred From ghess4 at cox.net Wed Nov 14 13:53:01 2007 From: ghess4 at cox.net (Gale Hess) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:53:01 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] frame 100-m In-Reply-To: <003801c826dd$f14e2f40$6401a8c0@FRYS> References: <003801c826dd$f14e2f40$6401a8c0@FRYS> Message-ID: <5AADCFB7353A47AAB1CD5369765E40E6@GalePC> Patrick, you might want to consult with "McCormick and Sons". They are located on Winter Gardens Blvd in Lakeside. I had an SUV back into my BJ8 and pushed the shroud back and smashed in the left front side. They put my car on the frame machine and pulled everything back into alignment. They did a fine job. One of their body men has owned Austin Healeys. Don't know whether this made a difference but they seemed very familiar with Healeys. If you want to talk about this give me a call at 619-390-7510. Good Luck Gale Hess BJ8 San Diego From ghess4 at cox.net Wed Nov 14 13:53:01 2007 From: ghess4 at cox.net (Gale Hess) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:53:01 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] frame 100-m In-Reply-To: <003801c826dd$f14e2f40$6401a8c0@FRYS> References: <003801c826dd$f14e2f40$6401a8c0@FRYS> Message-ID: Patrick, you might want to consult with "McCormick and Sons". They are located on Winter Gardens Blvd in Lakeside. I had an SUV back into my BJ8 and pushed the shroud back and smashed in the left front side. They put my car on the frame machine and pulled everything back into alignment. They did a fine job. One of their body men has owned Austin Healeys. Don't know whether this made a difference but they seemed very familiar with Healeys. If you want to talk about this give me a call at 619-390-7510. Good Luck Gale Hess BJ8 San Diego From msalter at precisionsportscar.com Wed Nov 14 14:14:09 2007 From: msalter at precisionsportscar.com (Michael Salter) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:14:09 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] New article on my blog. Delete if not interested. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20071114211454.E4CA71879E7@autox.team.net> Report on AHX12s new rear suspension. http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael Michael Salter 100 (1953) AHX12 (1953) Bugeye (1961) From Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au Wed Nov 14 14:57:17 2007 From: Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au (Quinn, Patrick) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:57:17 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] [Vintage-race] Real Castor oil products In-Reply-To: <473B5980.5080507@teamhealeytexas.com> References: <978493.76690.qm@web81312.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <473B5980.5080507@teamhealeytexas.com> Message-ID: <3CFB7014611C6F418B529D81EC0708C70169EDF2@itfexch5.central.det.win> G'day Fred It's wonderful stuff but as reports from WW1 pilots of planes with total loss systems, show that it has a severe laxative effect. I add about a thimble full to the fuel tank of my ride-on lawn mower and it makes mowing all the more enjoyable. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+patrick.quinn=det.nsw.edu.au at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+patrick.quinn=det.nsw.edu.au at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Fred Crowley Sent: Thursday, 15 November 2007 7:25 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] [Vintage-race] Real Castor oil products Being a engineer to the 1st order of laziness, I get that wonderful old castor oil smell from my exhaust by putting about a 1/2 cup per 10 gallons of actual castor oil in my fuel. Gives me a great advantage in racing as competitors who are coming behind me to pass, get mesmerized by such a wonderful car that produces these smells, and forget that were in fact going faster than me. Old age and treachery, etc. I buy a gallon of the stuff at my local pharmacy. It's also great entertainment to mess with the pharmacist's head by saying that I use several cupfuls a day. Jeanice says I'm way too easily entertained. As always, keep supporting me in my delusions! Y'all take care, eh? Fred ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From clocks at midcoast.com Wed Nov 14 15:45:48 2007 From: clocks at midcoast.com (James Lea) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:45:48 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Tax stamps. Message-ID: <000b01c82710$19cb6820$0201a8c0@JIM> Where can I find vintage tax stamps and holders? Thanks, JL James Lea PO Box 25 Rockport Maine 04856 1-207-236-3632 1951 Triumph Renown 1952 MG TD 1952 Triumph Mayflower 1958 Rover P4 1962 Austin Healey BT7 From glemon at neb.rr.com Wed Nov 14 16:18:07 2007 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:18:07 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] [Vintage-race] Real Castor oil products References: <978493.76690.qm@web81312.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <473B5980.5080507@teamhealeytexas.com> Message-ID: <009501c82714$9dbbaa10$6401a8c0@toshibauser> I remember my first trip to Road America for the vintage races there in the late 80s, Castrol R was still pretty prevalent and the smell intoxicating. Unfortunately nowadays most all the vintage guys are running synthetic, such is progres. Greg Lemon 54 BN1 From robert.w.johnson at charter.net Wed Nov 14 16:44:53 2007 From: robert.w.johnson at charter.net (Bob Johnson) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:44:53 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] [Vintage-race] Real Castor oil products References: <978493.76690.qm@web81312.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <473B5980.5080507@teamhealeytexas.com> Message-ID: <007901c82718$5aea9300$021919ac@valued28addca9> Too, too too funny! Bob Johnson BJ8 > > I buy a gallon of the stuff at my local pharmacy. It's also great > entertainment to mess with the pharmacist's head by saying that I use > several cupfuls a day. Jeanice says I'm way too easily entertained. > > As always, keep supporting me in my delusions! > > Y'all take care, eh? > > Fred From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Wed Nov 14 22:11:51 2007 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Leonard Hartnett) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:11:51 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Hyperventilating Hyperlink Message-ID: <38610BFC8DB64B0BA351E366C7661FFA@LeonardPC> If you have nothing else to do you might be interested in reading about the latest Cannon Ball Run. Its a rather long article with a few video clips. Courtesy of Autoweek Magazine and wired.com http://www.wired.com/cars/coolwheels/magazine/15-11/ff_cannonballrun (The Other) Len Vacaville, California, USA 1967 3000 MKIII, HBJ8L39031 From pieterscheen at optusnet.com.au Thu Nov 15 04:32:47 2007 From: pieterscheen at optusnet.com.au (Pieter and Linda Scheenhouwer) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:32:47 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] phantom grip Message-ID: <200711151132.lAFBWlha005840@mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au> Has anybody ever used a Phantom Grip limited slip diff conversion? Do they work and how do they compare to say a Quaife unit? I had never heard of them until a friend sent me a link to their site (phantomgrip.com). Its looks to simple and cheap, must be a catch. Cheers Pieter From dougnewton at sbcglobal.net Thu Nov 15 05:45:08 2007 From: dougnewton at sbcglobal.net (Doug Newton) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 06:45:08 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Conversion of BN1 Frame to BN2 Message-ID: Hello Everyone- I will be converting a BN1 Frame to accept a BN2 Transmission; what all needs to be done in order to do that? I know the 3 and 4 speed trannys mount a little differently, but I'm not sure what all has to be done in order to complete the change over. Also, are there other modifications to the frame that have to be done at this time? Any and all suggestions would be welcome. Thanks- Doug From williamsantiks at hotmail.com Thu Nov 15 09:04:06 2007 From: williamsantiks at hotmail.com (William Berg) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:04:06 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Conversion of BN1 Frame to BN2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Doug, BY removing the original cross brace fully and welding in the later style which sits more forward does the trick, Then you need to either weld in trapped nuts to receive the rubber/metal side supports. I drilled the holes and used an expanding nut like a rivet. You will also nee the correct threaded rod which prevents the tranny from sliding into your radiator. The rod and bush kit are available as is the cross piece. The electrical is leave the extisting BN1 wire loom in place but connect the centrifical switch leads together and isolate them, Good luck -William BN1 with a BN2 gearbox _____________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys _________________________________________________________________ Boo! Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare! http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=wl_hotmailne ws From loftusdesign at cox.net Thu Nov 15 12:26:12 2007 From: loftusdesign at cox.net (John Loftus) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:26:12 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Timing gear removal Message-ID: <473C9D54.10007@cox.net> Hi Stephen, I took a cheap 6" Three-Jaw puller from Harbor Freight and ground down the back side of the puller hooks so they would slide behind the gear. The grinding was required to use this puller on the larger cam gear but should work on the crank gear too. Cheers, John From bj7healey at gto.net Thu Nov 15 15:52:16 2007 From: bj7healey at gto.net (Bob) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:52:16 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Hyperventilating Hyperlink References: <38610BFC8DB64B0BA351E366C7661FFA@LeonardPC> Message-ID: <001701c827da$2f51e870$6400a8c0@BobsLaptop> Hi everyone Has anyone on the list installed a cruise control on there healey ?? If so what make, type, etc. and where did you get the picup signal from 1 Magnets on th drive shaft ?? 2 Pickup off the ignition coil ?? I am looking at installing one on my 1963 BJ7, I purchase one from JC Whitney about 2 years ago and could not get to work. So retuned. Bob Slater From STOCKLAND at aol.com Thu Nov 15 12:58:56 2007 From: STOCKLAND at aol.com (STOCKLAND at aol.com) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:58:56 EST Subject: [Healeys] Brake Master Cylinder Message-ID: I need to rebuild my BJ 8 master cylinder. Does it have to be removed from the car or can it be done from inside the drivers compartment? Thanks for your help. Jon ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From geatros at shaw.ca Thu Nov 15 13:12:59 2007 From: geatros at shaw.ca (geatros) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:12:59 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Master Cylinder Message-ID: <000001c827c4$72d0f7f0$d1495118@usera31c75d1dc> Hi Jon, Maybe you should replace your Brake Master Cylinder, a new one will last longer. British Parts Northwest has a Brake Master Cylinder for a Sero system for $113.60 US Cheers Kenny From gbrierton at hotmail.com Thu Nov 15 13:24:25 2007 From: gbrierton at hotmail.com (G. Brierton) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:24:25 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Hyperventilating Hyperlink References: <38610BFC8DB64B0BA351E366C7661FFA@LeonardPC> <001701c827da$2f51e870$6400a8c0@BobsLaptop> Message-ID: You might want to contact Allen Hendrix at Hendrix WireWheel; he's done these several times. http://www.hendrixwirewheel.com/ GaryB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob" To: "Healey Mail List" Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Hyperventilating Hyperlink > Hi everyone > Has anyone on the list installed a cruise control on there healey ?? From dan at warner-associates.com Thu Nov 15 13:26:01 2007 From: dan at warner-associates.com (Dan Stromquist) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:26:01 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Master Cylinder In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001101c827c5$bd2135d0$3500000a@warner.com> Jon: I just rebuilt both the brake and clutch master cylinders resleved in stainless steel. You will need to remove both whether you resleve or not. I found lots of information in the archives on this subject. Dan -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+dan=warner-associates.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+dan=warner-associates.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of STOCKLAND at aol.com Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 1:59 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Brake Master Cylinder I need to rebuild my BJ 8 master cylinder. Does it have to be removed from the car or can it be done from inside the drivers compartment? Thanks for your help. Jon ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From dan at warner-associates.com Thu Nov 15 13:38:55 2007 From: dan at warner-associates.com (Dan Stromquist) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:38:55 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] 1964 BJ8 Heater Box Message-ID: <001201c827c7$8a47b6f0$3500000a@warner.com> List: After the warning about the radiator rust problems in the heater box and the difficulty of removing that box, we decided to send ours off to a radiator shop to be inspected. I see now that Moss offers a replacement for around $172 and am wondering if anyone has an opinion on whether to rebuild or replace the radiator and control valve. The archives seem to say the O-ring for the valve does not fit. I will take any advice on alternate part sources as well. Dan From msalter at precisionsportscar.com Thu Nov 15 14:44:49 2007 From: msalter at precisionsportscar.com (Michael Salter) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:44:49 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 1964 BJ8 Heater Box In-Reply-To: <001201c827c7$8a47b6f0$3500000a@warner.com> Message-ID: <20071115214537.9E6471879CE@autox.team.net> Interestingly in all the years that I have worked on Healeys I've never had a problem with the 6 cylinder heater unit itself. This could possibly be attributable to the need to use antifreeze in this awful climate. I've experienced leaking heater valves, broken blower cases, sagged vent ducts and broken/split heater hoses but never a leaking heater core!! Michael Salter 100 (1953) AHX12 (1953) Bugeye (1961) http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/ -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dan Stromquist Sent: November 15, 2007 3:39 PM To: Healey List Emails Subject: [Healeys] 1964 BJ8 Heater Box List: After the warning about the radiator rust problems in the heater box and the difficulty of removing that box, we decided to send ours off to a radiator shop to be inspected. I see now that Moss offers a replacement for around $172 and am wondering if anyone has an opinion on whether to rebuild or replace the radiator and control valve. The archives seem to say the O-ring for the valve does not fit. I will take any advice on alternate part sources as well. Dan From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Nov 15 17:34:21 2007 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:34:21 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Brake Master Cylinder In-Reply-To: <000001c827c4$72d0f7f0$d1495118@usera31c75d1dc> References: <000001c827c4$72d0f7f0$d1495118@usera31c75d1dc> Message-ID: This is a good suggestion This is always what I do. On 11/16/07, geatros wrote: > Hi Jon, > > Maybe you should replace your Brake Master Cylinder, a new one will last > longer. British Parts Northwest has a Brake Master Cylinder for a Sero > system > for $113.60 US > > Cheers > Kenny > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > -- Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 From mgtrcars at galaxyinternet.net Thu Nov 15 17:38:23 2007 From: mgtrcars at galaxyinternet.net (Mark and Kathy) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:38:23 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 1964 BJ8 Heater Box References: <001201c827c7$8a47b6f0$3500000a@warner.com> Message-ID: <000401c827e9$0e5a20b0$ab55e104@markl946cfrd7q> I would imagine that Brit. Car Spec. would have the o-ring that fits. I have had more than my fair share of these English type control valves leak in my day. (MGs) At least in the MGs the leak is confined to the engine bay where it can drip on to the ground (not to mention the distributor) but in the Healey I see no other place for it to go but into the cockpit area. Which makes me wonder why they didn't put it on the side of the block in the first place. The top of the heater box is a terrible place. And I hate the smell of hot antifreeze. I have a brand new valve with a correct o-ring. but its not going in my car. I just ran the hose directly to the the nipple stub on the radiator where the valve should go. I will control the water flow at the engine shut off valve. This makes sense to me until someone can convince me differently. I don't trust these valves. And they get cheaper and cheaper in their construction. And even when they are in the open position the damn thing barely opens enough to let water through. Yes I know about the Mods. I've done a few , but what little I run the heater in my LBCs, I will go without the valve hassle. As long as the 2 hose clamps don't go kaput it should run leak free. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Stromquist" To: "Healey List Emails" Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 3:38 PM Subject: [Healeys] 1964 BJ8 Heater Box > List: > > After the warning about the radiator rust problems in the heater box and > the > difficulty of removing that box, we decided to send ours off to a radiator > shop to be inspected. I see now that Moss offers a replacement for around > $172 and am wondering if anyone has an opinion on whether to rebuild or > replace the radiator and control valve. The archives seem to say the > O-ring > for the valve does not fit. I will take any advice on alternate part > sources as well. > > Dan From pennell at cox.net Thu Nov 15 17:45:17 2007 From: pennell at cox.net (pennell at cox.net) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:45:17 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 1964 BJ8 Heater Box In-Reply-To: <000401c827e9$0e5a20b0$ab55e104@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: <20071115194517.IQTWD.64827.root@eastrmwml08.mgt.cox.net> Mark, I have replaced a couple of these with standard O rings from the hardware store. Don't remember the size, but in order to get it to seat better I had to do a little shaving with a sharp knife. After several years still no leak problems. Keith Pennell > I would imagine that Brit. Car Spec. would have the o-ring that fits. > > I have had more than my fair share of these English type control valves leak > in my day. (MGs) At least in the MGs the leak is confined to the engine bay > where it can drip on to the ground (not to mention the distributor) but in > the Healey I see no other place for it to go but into the cockpit area. > Which makes me wonder why they didn't put it on the side of the block in the > first place. The top of the heater box is a terrible place. And I hate the > smell of hot antifreeze. > > > I have a brand new valve with a correct o-ring. but its not going in my > car. I just ran the hose directly to the the nipple stub on the radiator > where the valve should go. I will control the water flow at the engine > shut off valve. > This makes sense to me until someone can convince me differently. I don't > trust these valves. And they get cheaper and cheaper in their construction. > And even when they are in the open position the damn thing barely opens > enough to let water through. Yes I know about the Mods. I've done a few , > but what little I run the heater in my LBCs, I will go without the valve > hassle. > > As long as the 2 hose clamps don't go kaput it should run leak free. From cbaustin at verizon.net Thu Nov 15 19:14:40 2007 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:14:40 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Early BN-1 steering box Message-ID: <473CFD10.80205@verizon.net> Anyone out there have an early BN-1 steering box and idler, suitable for rebuilding for sale or trade? Thanks in advance, CB From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Thu Nov 15 21:06:30 2007 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:06:30 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Timing gear removal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20071115200458.028a49c0@pop.att.yahoo.com> Stephen, I believe you use the puller to put tension on the gear then you whack it with a rubber mallet which makes it "pop" loose so to speak. John At 02:36 PM 11/14/2007 -0500, Stephen Hutchings wrote: >I'm removing the gears and chain from my engine in preparation for >taking out the cam (not a rebuild, I just have to get the cam out) , >and I'm having trouble with the crank gear. I've got the perfect From wsthompson at thicko.com Fri Nov 16 05:00:06 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:00:06 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] SOS '07 T minus 1 week Message-ID: <006001c82848$3d457e60$b7d07b20$@com> Hey y'all, We're one week away from SOS '07. Preparation at the Team Thicko International Headquarters continues. Larry Daniels was over yesterday, and I believe he was shocked at how much work has taken place in organizing the shop. I found a local British car owner ('69 Spitfire, and a Leyland tractor.. hah!) that owns a sandblasting business. I took Larry's Bugeye over there (not "Bob, the Beast of Bondo", but his other one) Although LD had started the job sandblasting job in my driveway, this guy managed to finish the whole car in 1.5 hours for $150. We could have had another 16 hours in the job at the rate we were going. At SOS we'll get that body tub up on the rotisserie, and begin to cut out and weld in patch panels. This will be good experience for those of you looking to learn. If you're looking to contribute to the food & drink, let me know. (Ya never can have enough interesting beer, ya dig?) Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From wsthompson at thicko.com Fri Nov 16 08:17:26 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:17:26 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] SOS '07 project good news Message-ID: <001901c82863$cf0eb4e0$6d2c1ea0$@com> Hey y'all, I managed to get Mary Albrecht's MKI Midget off the trailer. The car has been off the road for 17 years. We hooked it up to the Kubota, and tugged it with the car in 4th gear (gently), and I'm happy to report the motor is not stuck. Yee hah. Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From don at anglesey.us Fri Nov 16 11:01:07 2007 From: don at anglesey.us (Don ) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:01:07 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] 1964 BJ8 Heater Box In-Reply-To: <000401c827e9$0e5a20b0$ab55e104@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: >>"At least in the MGs the leak is confined to the engine bay where it can drip on to the ground (not to mention the distributor) but in the Healey I see no other place for it to go but into the cockpit area."<< That is exactly where it goes. When mine went it was all over the place in the cockpit and it was not a small drip, more of an open faucet. I bypassed it and no more leak. I never use the heater so haven't replaced the core. Don 57' BN4 From wsthompson at thicko.com Fri Nov 16 11:18:09 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:18:09 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] SOS '07 Spridget death row Message-ID: <007201c8287d$0d53d500$27fb7f00$@com> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=8gi920w &s=1 Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From peter at nosimport.com Fri Nov 16 11:30:53 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:30:53 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] SOS '07 Spridget death row In-Reply-To: <007201c8287d$0d53d500$27fb7f00$@com> References: <007201c8287d$0d53d500$27fb7f00$@com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071116122929.036abf10@nosimport.com> That'll look good with 8"of snow on it....... Give RWA a new meaning... (rusted wheel arch) Peter C. ---- At 12:18 PM 11/16/2007, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: >http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=8gi920w > &s=1 From jstmorris at yahoo.com Fri Nov 16 14:54:03 2007 From: jstmorris at yahoo.com (J. Scott Morris) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:54:03 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Healeys] Austin Healey in Film Message-ID: <452055.48621.qm@web30311.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I realize this is an old topic, but here is a list with photos of the Austin Healey, Healey, and Austin cars in various movies, TV, and films. Austin Healey : http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=Austin+Healey&model Healey : http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=Healey&model Austin : http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=Austin&model Enjoy!! --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada; '60 MkI BN7, '62 MkII BT7 J. Scott Morris - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives --------------------------------- Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail From dwflagg at juno.com Fri Nov 16 17:23:40 2007 From: dwflagg at juno.com (Douglas W Flagg) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 19:23:40 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Sprite/Midget Rear Bumper? Message-ID: <20071116.192341.1152.1.dwflagg@juno.com> I have listed on eBay what I thought was a Sprite/Midget R/H rear bumper. Would someone who is knowledgeable please check and let me know if it is in fact what I think it is. http://cm.ebay.com/cm/ck/1065-29296-2357-0?uid=397464&site=0&ver=LCA08080 5&item=200173348478&lk=URL TIA. Doug From dwflagg at juno.com Fri Nov 16 18:08:51 2007 From: dwflagg at juno.com (Douglas W Flagg) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:08:51 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Vintage Stopwatch Message-ID: <20071116.200851.216.3.dwflagg@juno.com> I have a vintage Chesterfield, Swiss made, stop watch. It belong to my wife's father. The following is a description for the same item, although this one does not say "7 jewel" on the face and I do not have the box, from an eBay listing. BEFORE YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IS A VINTAGE CHESTERFIELD MECHANICAL STOPWATCH WITH A SWISS 7 JEWEL MOVEMENT WITH ITS ORIGINAL BOX, IN PERFECT WORKING CONDITION. THIS VINTAGE STOPWATCH IS IN VERY GOOD CONDITION, THE DIAL AND CRYSTAL ARE IN EXCELLENT CONDITION. THIS STOP WATCH IS WORKING PERFECTLY AND IS VERY ACCURATE. THE WHITE DIAL IS IN EXCELLENT CONDITION WITH NO FLAWS. THE CROWN CONTROLS THE SECONDS HAND WHICH COMPLETES ONE REVOLUTION IN 30 SECONDS AND THERE IS A SUB DIAL LOCATED AT 12 WHICH KEEPS TRACK OF THE MINUTES. ONE REVOLUTION COUNTING 15 MINUTES. THE CROWN IS PRESSED TO START THE TIMING FUNCTION AND STOPPED BY PRESSING IT AGAIN. PRESSING THE CROWN A THIRD TIME RESTARTS THE WATCH. THERE IS A SECOND SMALL CROWN WHICH RESETS THE DIAL TO ZERO. If you have an interest, please post me off the list. Thanks. Doug From eschulz at frontiernet.net Fri Nov 16 21:00:42 2007 From: eschulz at frontiernet.net (Elton Schulz) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:00:42 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: BJ7 Dimension needed Message-ID: <007a01c828ce$6d626c80$bf5d6546@655vb01> I have yet to receive a reply to my request. Maybe this note did not get on List, or maybe my request was too confusing. Or possibly the measurement requested is too difficult to get. So I'm trying one more time in hope that someone could help. Let me know if clarification is needed. Thanks, Elton ----- Original Message ----- From: Elton Schulz To: Healey List Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 11:59 PM Subject: BJ7 Dimension needed Fellow Listers, Could someone please measure across the width of a BJ7 at the rear quarter panel finishers, Part no. AHB 9571 and 9572 or Moss part no 805-210 and 220. This is the little chrome finisher piece at the door shut panel. I need the distance from the top outside edge of the right finisher across the chassis to the top outside edge of the left finisher. It should be somewhere in the neighborhood of 51 inches or so. I would think this would be the same for a BJ8 as well. I neglected to get this measurement before I replaced the inner fender doglegs and door shut panels. Thanks, Elton, BJ7 in progress From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Fri Nov 16 21:22:10 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:22:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Key and Barrel Removal Message-ID: <3a70a9d44a9218ab7e8a.20071116202210.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> How do I get the lock barrel out of the boot lock? Looks like there is a crimp in the square shaft that is holding it together. Mike MacLean 56 BN2 60 AN5 From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Fri Nov 16 21:24:47 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:24:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Engine Install Message-ID: <12ba0a32658a2ed10a3aef0a.20071116202447.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> I am getting close to getting my BN2 body back from the painter. I was wondering what do you install on the engine and what is best installed after it is in such as generator, exhaust, etc. Oh yes, the front shroud will be off the car of course. Mike MacLean 56 BN2 60 AN5 From msalter at precisionsportscar.com Sat Nov 17 06:28:03 2007 From: msalter at precisionsportscar.com (Michael Salter) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 08:28:03 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Key and Barrel Removal In-Reply-To: <3a70a9d44a9218ab7e8a.20071116202210.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <20071117132854.8F8501879BB@autox.team.net> Yes Mike, that is correct. File the high spots off the crimp and with the handle in the unlock position the parts will separate. Michael Salter 100 (1953) AHX12 (1953) Bugeye (1961) http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/-----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sent: November 16, 2007 11:22 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Key and Barrel Removal How do I get the lock barrel out of the boot lock? Looks like there is a crimp in the square shaft that is holding it together. Mike MacLean 56 BN2 60 AN5 From legal_bill at verizon.net Sat Nov 17 06:47:47 2007 From: legal_bill at verizon.net (legal_bill at verizon.net) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 07:47:47 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Healeys] Engine Install Message-ID: <5185360.8129081195307267664.JavaMail.root@vms064.mailsrvcs.net> Oil pan, block with water pump installed and cylinder head. I leave the valve cover off. I bolt on all other stuff after. Some do the water pump after also. I want as few items on as possible as I swing the engine in. With the shroud off the car, it will be very easy to bolt on everything else. From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com Date: 2007/11/16 Fri PM 10:24:47 CST To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Engine Install I am getting close to getting my BN2 body back from the painter. I was wondering what do you install on the engine and what is best installed after it is in such as generator, exhaust, etc. Oh yes, the front shroud will be off the car of course. Mike MacLean 56 BN2 60 AN5 Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Bill Boston area '65 BJ8 '02 S2000 '06 330i From s.hutchings at rogers.com Sat Nov 17 11:13:01 2007 From: s.hutchings at rogers.com (Stephen Hutchings) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 13:13:01 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Timing gear removal, again Message-ID: Thanks for the suggestions on removing the timing gears, but I'm not there yet. As I said in my last post, I've got the cam gear moving with a two legged puler that fits the two holes in the gear nicely. The trouble is the crank gear. I could maybe adapt a puller for this job (there is very little room behind the gear for puller hooks), but I'm very concerned at the amount of force that would be applied against the chain - I'm thinking that the only way I can get a nice positive, even grip on the gear is to remove the chain first- any thoughts about that? The chain will only have about 20,000 miles on it, so I don't want to ruin it. Stephen, BJ8 From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sat Nov 17 11:27:39 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:27:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Key and Barrel Removal Message-ID: <117b4a2f0bba2bb42a311a3a.20071117102739.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Michael, O.K., so after the parts are re-chromed and the barrel is replaced how do you get it all to hold back together again. Not sure how to re-crimp the square shaft. Mike Michael Salter > Yes Mike, that is correct. File the high spots off the crimp and with the > handle in the unlock position the parts will separate. > > Michael Salter > 100 (1953) > AHX12 (1953) > Bugeye (1961) > http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/-----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of rrengineer at dslextreme.com > Sent: November 16, 2007 11:22 PM > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] Key and Barrel Removal > > How do I get the lock barrel out of the boot lock? Looks like there is a > crimp in the square shaft that is holding it together. > > Mike MacLean > 56 BN2 > 60 AN5 From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sat Nov 17 11:31:13 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:31:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Engine Install In-Reply-To: <5185360.8129081195307267664.JavaMail.root@vms064.mailsrvcs.net> References: <5185360.8129081195307267664.JavaMail.root@vms064.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <6b0ca12015a10b9ea12cada.20071117103113.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> That's just about what I thought, but what about the transmission? Attached or put the tranny in first, then the engine? Mike And by the way Bill, I'm originally from Attleboro, not too far from you. I live in San Bernardino, CA now. legal_bill at verizon.net > Oil pan, block with water pump installed and cylinder head. I leave the > valve cover off. I bolt on all other stuff after. Some do the water pump > after also. I want as few items on as possible as I swing the engine in. > With the shroud off the car, it will be very easy to bolt on everything > else. > > From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com > Date: 2007/11/16 Fri PM 10:24:47 CST > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] Engine Install > > I am getting close to getting my BN2 body back from the painter. I was > wondering what do you install on the engine and what is best installed > after it is in such as generator, exhaust, etc. Oh yes, the front shroud > will be off the car of course. > > Mike MacLean > 56 BN2 > 60 AN5 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > Bill > Boston area > '65 BJ8 > '02 S2000 > '06 330i From msalter at precisionsportscar.com Sat Nov 17 11:44:03 2007 From: msalter at precisionsportscar.com (Michael Salter) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 13:44:03 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Key and Barrel Removal In-Reply-To: <117b4a2f0bba2bb42a311a3a.20071117102739.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <20071117184454.F1A4A1879F6@autox.team.net> All I do Mike is put the square shaft on a vice and use a cold chisel to cut a small gouge on opposite sides of the shaft up near the cup washer. Michael Salter 100 (1953) AHX12 (1953) Bugeye (1961) http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/ -----Original Message----- From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com [mailto:rrengineer at dslextreme.com] Sent: November 17, 2007 1:28 PM To: Michael Salter Cc: rrengineer at dslextreme.com; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Healeys] Key and Barrel Removal Michael, O.K., so after the parts are re-chromed and the barrel is replaced how do you get it all to hold back together again. Not sure how to re-crimp the square shaft. Mike Michael Salter > Yes Mike, that is correct. File the high spots off the crimp and with the > handle in the unlock position the parts will separate. > > Michael Salter > 100 (1953) > AHX12 (1953) > Bugeye (1961) > http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/ -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of rrengineer at dslextreme.com > Sent: November 16, 2007 11:22 PM > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] Key and Barrel Removal > > How do I get the lock barrel out of the boot lock? Looks like there is a > crimp in the square shaft that is holding it together. > > Mike MacLean > 56 BN2 > 60 AN5 From Rusd at sitestar.net Sat Nov 17 11:47:36 2007 From: Rusd at sitestar.net (Dave Russell) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 11:47:36 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Timing gear removal, again In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <473F3748.80705@sitestar.net> Hi Stephen, Unless the chain is very, very loose, I doubt if you can remove it without removing the sprockets. Usually, the chain & both sprockets need to be removed all at once. Ie, the two sprockets must be pretty well lined up as they are withdrawn. The crank sprocket can be a real war to get off. Even the two keys on the crank can be very difficult to remove. Above all, don't damage the crankshaft! Regards, Dave Russell Stephen Hutchings wrote: >Thanks for the suggestions on removing the timing gears, but I'm not there yet. >As I said in my last post, I've got the cam gear moving with a two >legged puler that fits the two holes in the gear nicely. The trouble >is the crank gear. I could maybe adapt a puller for this job (there >is very little room behind the gear for puller hooks), but I'm very >concerned at the amount of force that would be applied against the >chain - I'm thinking that the only way I can get a nice positive, >even grip on the gear is to remove the chain first- any thoughts >about that? >The chain will only have about 20,000 miles on it, so I don't want to ruin it. > >Stephen, BJ8 From glemon at neb.rr.com Sat Nov 17 11:54:42 2007 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 12:54:42 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Timing gear removal, again References: Message-ID: <006801c8294b$512822d0$6401a8c0@toshibauser> I mentioned off list putting screwdrivers or a suitably sized wedge behind the gear and gently tapping on the end of the crank while protecting the threads, as you get more clearance you putthewedige in farther, this would not damage the chain, I don not like to damage parts either, but if you want to use a puller at $10 bucks the timing chain is one of the cheaper healey parts out there, acually at that price even cheapskate like myself might go ahead and replace it while the cover was off even if it wasn't damaged. Greg Lemon 54 BN1 From s.hutchings at rogers.com Sat Nov 17 12:11:26 2007 From: s.hutchings at rogers.com (Stephen Hutchings) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:11:26 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Timing gear removal, again Message-ID: Hi Michael, I had no idea the chains were so cheap! I will stop worrying about that aspect of things. I have tried the pry bars, but I guess I haven't been aggressive enough. Stephen, BJ8 >I have removed many of those over the years and all I have ever used is a >pair of pry bars. One won't usually do it, you need to apply the force on >both sides evenly. >Usually the chain comes through undamaged but even if it doesn't a new one >is not that expensive at $US9.95 which these days is only about $CDN7.00 ;-) > >Michael Salter >100 (1953) >AHX12 (1953) >Bugeye (1961) From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sat Nov 17 12:15:08 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 11:15:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Key and Barrel Removal Message-ID: <1fe0a55c8a4fb0a5988a.20071117111508.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Sounds simple, thanks Michael. Mike Michael Salter > All I do Mike is put the square shaft on a vice and use a cold chisel to > cut > a small gouge on opposite sides of the shaft up near the cup washer. > > Michael Salter > 100 (1953) > AHX12 (1953) > Bugeye (1961) > http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com [mailto:rrengineer at dslextreme.com] > Sent: November 17, 2007 1:28 PM > To: Michael Salter > Cc: rrengineer at dslextreme.com; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: RE: [Healeys] Key and Barrel Removal > > Michael, > O.K., so after the parts are re-chromed and the barrel is replaced > how do you get it all to hold back together again. Not sure how to > re-crimp the square shaft. > Mike > > > Michael Salter >> Yes Mike, that is correct. File the high spots off the crimp and with >> the >> handle in the unlock position the parts will separate. >> >> Michael Salter >> 100 (1953) >> AHX12 (1953) >> Bugeye (1961) >> http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/ > > -----Original Message----- >> From: healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net >> [mailto:healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net] >> On >> Behalf Of rrengineer at dslextreme.com >> Sent: November 16, 2007 11:22 PM >> To: healeys at autox.team.net >> Subject: [Healeys] Key and Barrel Removal >> >> How do I get the lock barrel out of the boot lock? Looks like there is >> a >> crimp in the square shaft that is holding it together. >> >> Mike MacLean >> 56 BN2 >> 60 AN5 From Rusd at sitestar.net Sat Nov 17 12:30:47 2007 From: Rusd at sitestar.net (Dave Russell) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 12:30:47 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Timing gear removal, again In-Reply-To: <006801c8294b$512822d0$6401a8c0@toshibauser> References: <006801c8294b$512822d0$6401a8c0@toshibauser> Message-ID: <473F4167.8090604@sitestar.net> "If" you did have the chain off somehow, a clam shell type puller placed between the two sprocket rows would be the way to get the crank sprocket off. When going back together, thoroughly deburr/smooth the crank, cam, & inside the sprockets. I would trial fit new keys also & finish them as necessary to get a perfect jam free fit in both the shafts & hubs. Check all parts for easy but precise fits before final assembly. In some cases, there may be shims behind the sprockets to set perfect chain alignment. I agree, the chain is sacrificial. Damaging the crank or cam is not an option. Any wedging is likely to damage the crank or cam shoulders. Dave Russell Greg Lemon wrote: >I mentioned off list putting screwdrivers or a suitably sized wedge behind >the gear and gently tapping on the end of the crank while protecting the >threads, as you get more clearance you put the wedge in farther, this would >not damage the chain, I don not like to damage parts either, but if you want >to use a puller at $10 bucks the timing chain is one of the cheaper healey >parts out there, acually at that price even cheapskate like myself might go >ahead and replace it while the cover was off even if it wasn't damaged. > >Greg Lemon >54 BN1 From s.hutchings at rogers.com Sat Nov 17 13:20:13 2007 From: s.hutchings at rogers.com (Stephen Hutchings) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 15:20:13 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Timing gear removal, now woodruff key Message-ID: Well, after using a bit more elbow grease, I have the crank gear moving. I'm afraid it seems to be reluctant to go over the outer woodruff key, so I've had to move it back and am now trying to get the key out. The manual's suggestion to remove it with a pair of needlle nose pliers is not going to be the solution here! I don't remember having any trouble getting these out when dismantling the engine years ago, but this thing is jammed.........more suggestions? Stephen, BJ8 From glemon at neb.rr.com Sat Nov 17 14:14:29 2007 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 15:14:29 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Timing gear removal, now woodruff key References: Message-ID: <007301c8295e$d7a15bc0$6401a8c0@toshibauser> If it is still stuck tap one end with a hammer or lightly towards the shaft, this should bring the other end up and either loosen it to the point where you can get it out or get a better grip with a needle nose pliers. I know it sounds like whacking with a hammeris my solution to everything, butin this case it will work. If you cant get it with a pliers once you have rasied one end up you can either work it backand forth with the light tapping or ise a scrrewdriver or chisel between the crankshaft and the key and once again a little tapping and it should pop out. Greg Lemon 54 BN1 From Rusd at sitestar.net Sat Nov 17 14:24:50 2007 From: Rusd at sitestar.net (Dave Russell) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:24:50 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Timing gear removal, now woodruff key In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <473F5C22.80502@sitestar.net> As I said earlier, "Even the two keys on the crank can be very difficult to remove. Above all, don't damage the crankshaft!" You can usually tap on the exposed end of the key with a small punch. The key may rotate & lift out of the slot on the back side or it might lift on the front side. You can be sure that the key will be mostly destroyed in the process. If you ding the key slot, clean it up with a Swiss file. To avoid further problems take time to dress the key slots in the crank & sprocket. New keys are sometimes too wide or too high to fit the original slots & may need to be carefully narrowed. I recently spent the better part of a day to get everything fitted. D Stephen Hutchings wrote: >Well, after using a bit more elbow grease, I have the crank gear >moving. I'm afraid it seems to be reluctant to go over the outer >woodruff key, so I've had to move it back and am now trying to get >the key out. The manual's suggestion to remove it with a pair of >needle nose pliers is not going to be the solution here! I don't >remember having any trouble getting these out when dismantling the >engine years ago, but this thing is jammed.........more suggestions? > >Stephen, BJ8 >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >Healeys at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From Rusd at sitestar.net Sat Nov 17 14:58:11 2007 From: Rusd at sitestar.net (Dave Russell) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:58:11 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] [Bulk] Re: Timing gear removal, now woodruff key Message-ID: Thanks to all for the further suggestions. Stephen, BJ8 From dwflagg at juno.com Sat Nov 17 15:41:16 2007 From: dwflagg at juno.com (Douglas W Flagg) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 17:41:16 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Side Rod Assembly Message-ID: <20071117.174116.144.0.dwflagg@juno.com> I have a side rod assembly, part number AHB 9609. Can anyone tell me if it is for the 100? Thanks. Doug From MBran89793 at aol.com Sat Nov 17 16:57:43 2007 From: MBran89793 at aol.com (MBran89793 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 18:57:43 EST Subject: [Healeys] Side Rod Assembly Message-ID: (part number AHB 9609) Hi Doug- This part is shown in the BJ7 & 8 Mechanical Service Parts List for fitting from (C) 19191. Of course 2 are required per vehicle. Marion S. Brantley, Jr. Concours Committee Member ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From mkgoodman at worldnet.att.net Sat Nov 17 20:05:49 2007 From: mkgoodman at worldnet.att.net (Mark Goodman) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:05:49 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Important Safety Precaution Message-ID: <001b01c82990$02bbf140$0833d3c0$@att.net> >From Roger Earley Google To All Associates: Google has implemented a new feature that enables those who know your telephone number to obtain your name, address, and directions to your home. To get the directions, they type your telephone number into the Search bar of their computer and hit enter. Your name and address come up, along with a link to MapQuest. Upon clicking on the MapQuest link, they get a map to your home. If you would like to have your telephone number removed, you can fill out a very brief online form, as noted below. To test if your phone number is mapped, visit: http://www.google.com/. If it is, you can prevent Google from sharing your information by clicking on your telephone number, and then selecting "Request to have your name removed from list." Complete the removal form at the bottom of that page, and hit "Submit." Your information will be removed within 48 hours. We hope you find this update useful, especially when talking with your children about safety issues. If you primarily use an unlisted number, or a cell phone, the need for this safety precaution may not apply to you. However, please share this important update with family and friends. Thank you! [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image001.jpg] From kags at shaw.ca Sat Nov 17 23:56:23 2007 From: kags at shaw.ca (Earl Kagna) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:56:23 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Key and Barrel Removal References: <20071117184454.F1A4A1879F6@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <00c201c829b0$221036d0$fb086c18@computer> Or ---------------- drill a hole through the square shaft and use a cotter pin to hold the cup washer in the same orientation as before. Done this a few times! Salter's operation is probably a bit shorter - leaving more time for beer. Earl Kagna Victoria, B.C. BT7 tri-carb BJ8 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Salter" To: Cc: Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Key and Barrel Removal All I do Mike is put the square shaft on a vice and use a cold chisel to cut a small gouge on opposite sides of the shaft up near the cup washer. Michael Salter -----Original Message----- From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com [mailto:rrengineer at dslextreme.com] Sent: November 17, 2007 1:28 PM To: Michael Salter Cc: rrengineer at dslextreme.com; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Healeys] Key and Barrel Removal Michael, O.K., so after the parts are re-chromed and the barrel is replaced how do you get it all to hold back together again. Not sure how to re-crimp the square shaft. Mike From healey100m at gmail.com Sun Nov 18 14:20:52 2007 From: healey100m at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 16:20:52 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Healey on Maui ? Message-ID: Saw a white 100-6 or early 3000 on Route 30 W today on Maui. Anyone on the list? What a great place this is for a Healey!!!!! :-) Randy -- Randy Hicks '56 100M '60 BN7 MK I '62 BN7 MK II '66 BJ8 '53 MGTD Healey100M at gmail.co From ahbn6 at optonline.net Sun Nov 18 14:49:34 2007 From: ahbn6 at optonline.net (John Sims) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 16:49:34 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Healey on Maui ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <005c01c82a2c$eb970610$6500a8c0@simsoffice> Damnation. Wish it was me. Right now it is 4:46 pm and it is 36 degrees. (Gotta get weather.com off of my desktop) How can we get a time warp or something to switch places!!! I believe that some of us in the netherworld would appreciate non-Healeying in 70 degree weather -- ya hear that Perry in Hawaii??? John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Randy Hicks Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 4:21 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Healey on Maui ? Saw a white 100-6 or early 3000 on Route 30 W today on Maui. Anyone on the list? What a great place this is for a Healey!!!!! :-) Randy -- Randy Hicks '56 100M '60 BN7 MK I '62 BN7 MK II '66 BJ8 '53 MGTD Healey100M at gmail.co _______________________________________________ From Healeyguy at aol.com Sun Nov 18 15:31:58 2007 From: Healeyguy at aol.com (Healeyguy at aol.com) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:31:58 EST Subject: [Healeys] Healey on Maui ? Message-ID: John Actually it was 79 degrees at 8:30 this morning but who's really paying attention. Your comment about the netherworld caught my eye though......there is/was a BN4 in Kihei that belonged to Rich Caron, so that might have been him. Aloha Perry (in Paradise) ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From ahbn6 at optonline.net Sun Nov 18 15:57:00 2007 From: ahbn6 at optonline.net (John Sims) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:57:00 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Healey on Maui ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <006401c82a36$53ea6550$6500a8c0@simsoffice> OK, Perry, It is now down to 35 degrees. 6pm. I really do not care whose Healey was seen on the road in 79 degrees! What I really care about is how I am going to go out into the garage and continue the much needed work on my Healey using a heater that raises my body temperature to a bizzilion degrees on one side while the other side is frozen like an icicle. Send one of your hula dancers over to warm my other side! John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: Healeyguy at aol.com [mailto:Healeyguy at aol.com] Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 5:32 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Cc: ahbn6 at optonline.net; healey100m at gmail.com Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey on Maui ? John Actually it was 79 degrees at 8:30 this morning but who's really paying attention. Your comment about the netherworld caught my eye though......there is/was a BN4 in Kihei that belonged to Rich Caron, so that might have been him. Aloha Perry (in Paradise) From comkanuk at cgocable.ca Sun Nov 18 16:19:05 2007 From: comkanuk at cgocable.ca (gilbert gauthier) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 18:19:05 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Montana Message-ID: <539B0D78-11B3-47FB-8E86-0FABA5DE12DE@cgocable.ca> Some healeys fan from Montana out there? Gilbert BT7 1961 BN71960 From Healeyguy at aol.com Sun Nov 18 16:19:03 2007 From: Healeyguy at aol.com (Healeyguy at aol.com) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 18:19:03 EST Subject: [Healeys] Healey on Maui ? Message-ID: John Just think, by midnight it should be down to about 18 degrees. At that temperature the garage heater won't work at all and I suspect they will find a frozen Austin Healey owner stuck to the garage door apparently trying to escape the netherworld. With that in mind I might advise staying in the house to contemplate how you can get everything done on the car the first week the weather breaks in the springtime. Regarding the hula girl visiting NJ, as friendly as they are, your photo is on the web so I doubt that it will happen. All this reminds me of rebuilding the 100 engine the first time in my dad's garage 42 years ago during a cold Pennsylvania winter. I couldn't afford a heater back then. My dad regrets that the garage burned to the ground and that is why I live in Hawaii....just kidding! Aloha Perry ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From insptwo at msn.com Sun Nov 18 16:21:18 2007 From: insptwo at msn.com (insptwo at msn.com) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 18:21:18 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Healey on Maui ? In-Reply-To: <005c01c82a2c$eb970610$6500a8c0@simsoffice> References: <005c01c82a2c$eb970610$6500a8c0@simsoffice> Message-ID: I feel for you northern folks, having moved to Florida in 1970 from sunny? Pittsburgh. The low here this morning was 59 with a high of 84. !!!!!!! Bill BJ7 > Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 16:49:34 -0500> From: ahbn6 at optonline.net> To: healey100m at gmail.com; healeys at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey on Maui ?> > Damnation. Wish it was me. Right now it is 4:46 pm and it is 36 degrees.> (Gotta get weather.com off of my desktop) How can we get a time warp or> something to switch places!!! I believe that some of us in the netherworld> would appreciate non-Healeying in 70 degree weather -- ya hear that Perry> in Hawaii???> > John Sims, BN6> Aberdeen, NJ> > www.healey6.com> > > > -----Original Message-----> From: healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net> [mailto:healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of> Randy Hicks> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 4:21 PM> To: healeys at autox.team.net> Subject: [Healeys] Healey on Maui ?> > Saw a white 100-6 or early 3000 on Route 30 W today on Maui.> > Anyone on the list?> > What a great place this is for a Healey!!!!! :-)> > Randy> > --> Randy Hicks> '56 100M> '60 BN7 MK I> '62 BN7 MK II> '66 BJ8> '53 MGTD> Healey100M at gmail.co> _______________________________________________> _______________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > Healeys at autox.team.net> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From ahbn6 at optonline.net Sun Nov 18 17:35:43 2007 From: ahbn6 at optonline.net (John Sims) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 19:35:43 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Healey on Maui ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <006e01c82a44$1e66b790$6500a8c0@simsoffice> Ah to think of what one will do to be close to the grandkids. Move from Las Vegas to the "garden state" of New Jersey. Get within almost walking distance of another Healey owner. Have thousands of leaves on the ground that I have to get rid of. Paradise is not necessarily in the islands but where you live if you know how to make the best of it! I would still like to see a hula dancer or two as long as they are in their early twenties although my wife tells me that they would kill me. Since I have lived a great life, I am ready to go. Send them on! John -----Original Message----- From: Healeyguy at aol.com [mailto:Healeyguy at aol.com] Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 6:19 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Cc: healey100m at gmail.com; ahbn6 at optonline.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey on Maui ? John Just think, by midnight it should be down to about 18 degrees. At that temperature the garage heater won't work at all and I suspect they will find a frozen Austin Healey owner stuck to the garage door apparently trying to escape the netherworld. With that in mind I might advise staying in the house to contemplate how you can get everything done on the car the first week the weather breaks in the springtime. Regarding the hula girl visiting NJ, as friendly as they are, your photo is on the web so I doubt that it will happen. All this reminds me of rebuilding the 100 engine the first time in my dad's garage 42 years ago during a cold Pennsylvania winter. I couldn't afford a heater back then. My dad regrets that the garage burned to the ground and that is why I live in Hawaii....just kidding! Aloha Perry From schauss at worldnet.att.net Sun Nov 18 21:22:44 2007 From: schauss at worldnet.att.net (Peter Schauss) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 23:22:44 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Engine Install In-Reply-To: <6b0ca12015a10b9ea12cada.20071117103113.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <20071119042325.915171879E9@autox.team.net> Install the engine and transmission together. Peter Schauss 1963 BJ7 1980 MGB > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces+schauss=worldnet.att.net at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces+schauss=worldnet.att.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf > Of rrengineer at dslextreme.com > Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 1:31 PM > To: legal_bill at verizon.net > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Engine Install > > That's just about what I thought, but what about the transmission? > Attached or put the tranny in first, then the engine? > Mike > And by the way Bill, I'm originally from Attleboro, not too far from you. > I live in San Bernardino, CA now. From mayorrichard at hotmail.com Sun Nov 18 23:15:33 2007 From: mayorrichard at hotmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 06:15:33 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] phantom grip In-Reply-To: <200711151132.lAFBWlha005840@mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au> References: <200711151132.lAFBWlha005840@mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: Hello Pieter: I checked out that website. Although it looks questionable to me, it doesn't really matter. I have rebuilt a few Healey diffs over the years and I can tell you - that funny little square thing ain't gonna work in a Healey diff. So step up to the plate, spend the big bucks and buy a Quaife. I was in a race one time- in the mid 90s - with inadequate oil level in my diff. I burned all of the teeth off the pinion As the R's were going up, and I was slowing down, I just assumed I lost a clutch. My Quaife got so hot it turned blue, but it still works great to this day. Financial interest? Hell, I wish I owned the company. Richard Mayor, '59 BN7 Vintage Racer > From: pieterscheen at optusnet.com.au> To: healeys at autox.team.net> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:32:47 +1000> Subject: [Healeys] phantom grip> > Has anybody ever used a Phantom Grip limited slip diff conversion? Do they> work and how do they compare to say a Quaife unit? I had never heard of them> until a friend sent me a link to their site (phantomgrip.com). Its looks to> simple and cheap, must be a catch.> > Cheers> > Pieter> _______________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > Healeys at autox.team.net> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys _________________________________________________________________ Put your friends on the big screen with Windows Vista. + Windows Live. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/shop/specialoffers.mspx?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_CPC_M ediaCtr_bigscreen_102007 From lists at brits-n-pieces.com Mon Nov 19 03:20:04 2007 From: lists at brits-n-pieces.com (Brits'n'Pieces (Eric Frenken)) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:20:04 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Austin Healey in Film In-Reply-To: <452055.48621.qm@web30311.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <452055.48621.qm@web30311.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <027101c82a95$c049e0e0$40dda2a0$@com> And one more to come next year. I was lucky that my blue over white AH 3000 MK I had been chosen by Wim Wenders (German producer, films like 'Paris, Texas' (1984), 'Buena Vista Social Club' (1999), 'The Million Dollar Hotel' (2000), 'Land of Plenty' (2004) and 'Don't come knocking' (2005)) for his latest film project most likely to be named 'The Palermo Shooting'. The shooting programme had been taken some weeks ago in Duesseldorf (Germany) and afterwards in Palermo (Sicily). My Healey had been used during 10 days shooting in Duesseldorf as was another Healey with similar colors as a car wreck. It was a great experience to talk to people like Campino (voice & leader of the German punk rock band 'Die toten Hosen') who drove my car on various occasions and Milla Jovovich (model and actor (the red haired, most attractive woman in 'The fifth element' with Bruce Willis). The movie will come to your theatre about next summer/autumn. Cheers Eric Heinsberg/Germany http://brits-n-pieces.com I realize this is an old topic, but here is a list with photos of the Austin Healey, Healey, and Austin cars in various movies, TV, and films. Austin Healey : http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=Austin+Healey&model Healey : http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=Healey&model Austin : http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=Austin&model Enjoy!! --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada; '60 MkI BN7, '62 MkII BT7 J. Scott Morris - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives From jimf at frakes-eng.com Mon Nov 19 10:02:13 2007 From: jimf at frakes-eng.com (Frakes, Jim) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:02:13 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Steering BN1 Message-ID: I have two BN1 steering gears I have stripped and cleaned only to find the pin that fits into the worm gear has a problem. One has the pin galded with a flat spot and the other has the flat upper portion of the pin broken, keeping the pin from rotating with the bearings. The new pins are $180.00! If I spend the $$ I think I might still have a problem later and do not know it. What is everybody else doing? I do not have a BN2 or a BT7 gear except for one somebody cut the shaft off short. I also found one from a Jamaican!! But it is cut short also. Central Indiana AH Club Jim Frakes CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and it may contain information that is privileged or confidential. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient (or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us by telephone at the number listed above or by return e-mail. From ourxke at hotmail.com Mon Nov 19 12:58:59 2007 From: ourxke at hotmail.com (Ken Wignall) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:58:59 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Engine Install In-Reply-To: <6b0ca12015a10b9ea12cada.20071117103113.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> References: <5185360.8129081195307267664.JavaMail.root@vms064.mailsrvcs.net> <6b0ca12015a10b9ea12cada.20071117103113.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: A friend is doing an engine rebuild on his BJ8 right now. He removed the passenger seat, the transmission tunnel and raised the emergency brake handle straight up by removing the pin from the brake cable. Unbolting the trans from the block, he lifted it up and swung it over and out the passenger door. He removed the carbs, generator and distributor from the block and hoisted it right out. He will reassemble the reverse to this. Very easy and clean removal of the block , or just the transmission, with this technique, especially with the shroud on the car.> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:31:13 -0800> From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com> To: legal_bill at verizon.net> CC: healeys at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Engine Install> > That's just about what I thought, but what about the transmission? > Attached or put the tranny in first, then the engine?> Mike> And by the way Bill, I'm originally from Attleboro, not too far from you. > I live in San Bernardino, CA now.> > > legal_bill at verizon.net> > Oil pan, block with water pump installed and cylinder head. I leave the> > valve cover off. I bolt on all other stuff after. Some do the water pump> > after also. I want as few items on as possible as I swing the engine in.> > With the shroud off the car, it will be very easy to bolt on everything> > else.> >> > From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com> > Date: 2007/11/16 Fri PM 10:24:47 CST> > To: healeys at autox.team.net> > Subject: [Healeys] Engine Install> >> > I am getting close to getting my BN2 body back from the painter. I was> > wondering what do you install on the engine and what is best installed> > after it is in such as generator, exhaust, etc. Oh yes, the front shroud> > will be off the car of course.> >> > Mike MacLean> > 56 BN2> > 60 AN5> > _______________________________________________> > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> >> > Healeys at autox.team.net> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys> >> >> > Bill> > Boston area> > '65 BJ8> > '02 S2000> > '06 330i> _______________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > Healeys at autox.team.net> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys _________________________________________________________________ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live.Download today it's FREE! http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_sharelife_112007 From ahbn6 at optonline.net Mon Nov 19 13:21:09 2007 From: ahbn6 at optonline.net (John Sims) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:21:09 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Color Chips Message-ID: <00c001c82ae9$b8db3760$6500a8c0@simsoffice> This site was mentioned in the quarterly Hagerty magazine as a source for paint, etc. http://www.tcpglobal.com/autocolorlibrary/ No interest here but is this another resource for us? John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ www.healey6.com From tomfelts at windstream.net Mon Nov 19 14:34:17 2007 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (tomfelts at windstream.net) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:34:17 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Healey for sale Message-ID: <20071119213417.IPVY29331.ispmxmta06-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> I have an acquaintance who owns a 4 seater tri-carb (1959--we think(HBT7L17851) who wants to sell the car. It belonged to her husband who recently died. He had plans to restore it some 20 odd years ago but never did so it sat in a garage till now. Car is straignt with all parts--including what I believe to be an original hardtop. It will need a restoration, but, to me, is an excellent example for restoration. Contact me off line if you have an interest. Car is located 25 miles east of Pittsburgh, Pa. She is thinking $9 - $10K for it, which, I feel is approptiate. I have no financial interest in the car, just passing along the info. Regards Tom From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Nov 19 16:35:35 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 17:35:35 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] SOS '07 motorcycle jump practice Message-ID: <017201c82b04$e4e537f0$aeafa7d0$@com> Larry's been rehearsing his SOS jump.. http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=89t3rxu&s=1 Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Nov 19 18:08:47 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:08:47 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] [Spridgets] SOS '07 motorcycle jump practice In-Reply-To: <07e401c82b10$aa158fb0$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <017201c82b04$e4e537f0$aeafa7d0$@com> <07e401c82b10$aa158fb0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <002501c82b11$e9f58800$bde09800$@com> And obviously the take off ramp was WAY back across the street in the corn field. Nice hang time. -----Original Message----- From: Larry Daniels [mailto:ladaniels at sbcglobal.net] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 7:00 PM To: Wm. Severin Thompson; 'net Spridgets'; mgs at autox.team.net; team-thicko at autox.team.net; 'Healeys' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] SOS '07 motorcycle jump practice ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" Larry's been rehearsing his SOS jump.. http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=89t3rxu&s=1 Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii References: <20071114211454.E4CA71879E7@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20071119194411.02859598@pop.att.yahoo.com> So... Looks like you got an early start at mowing down your Christmas Tree. Will we find out why you decided to "jump" the ditch in the first place? I think I did something similar may years ago while skiing; something about taking the best of two choices! Cheers, John At 04:14 PM 11/14/2007 -0500, Michael Salter wrote: >Report on AHX12s new rear suspension. >http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael > >Michael Salter From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Nov 19 21:24:41 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 22:24:41 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] SOS '07 the not so good jump Message-ID: <001401c82b2d$47654140$d62fc3c0$@com> Sometimes Larry doesn't get it right. http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=720egbk&s=1 Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Mon Nov 19 21:35:47 2007 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Leonard Hartnett) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:35:47 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Engine Install In-Reply-To: References: <5185360.8129081195307267664.JavaMail.root@vms064.mailsrvcs.net><6b0ca12015a10b9ea12cada.20071117103113.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: I have removed the transmission through the cockpit a couple of times. I swore that I would never do it again. Removal for me was a relatively easy process. Getting it back in is the problem. Maybe it is just my Healey but I found that while the transmission was out of the car, the hole in the firewall shrunk. The transmission now seemed too big to go through the hole and mate up with the engine. My hands had difficulty getting the bolts back in the holes and the nuts threaded on the bolts. Laying or squatting on the floor of the car under the dash board didn't do my ribs and legs any favors, either. And if you don't get everything lined up perfectly, you run the risk of breaking the bronze bushing in the end of the crankshaft which you won't discover until the next time you separate the two. All of these problems are eliminated if you remove and install the engine and transmission/OD as a unit. Just my personal experience. (The Other) Len Vacaville, California, USA 1967 3000 MKIII, HBJ8L39031 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Wignall" To: Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Engine Install >A friend is doing an engine rebuild on his BJ8 right now. He removed the > passenger seat, the transmission tunnel and raised the emergency brake > handle > straight up by removing the pin from the brake cable. Unbolting the trans > from > the block, he lifted it up and swung it over and out the passenger door. > He > removed the carbs, generator and distributor from the block and hoisted it > right out. He will reassemble the reverse to this. Very easy and clean > removal > of the block , or just the transmission, with this technique, especially > with > the shroud on the car.> From wsthompson at thicko.com Tue Nov 20 06:40:08 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 07:40:08 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] SOS '07 directions Message-ID: <006c01c82b7a$e15815f0$a40841d0$@com> Hey y'all, Looks like the weather will be cold and dry Fri. & Sat. Here's how to get here. We're on the NW corner of Hass & Lincoln, in Van Dyne, WI. >From the south, Rt. 41 north, past Fond du Lac. At the 106 exit County N, exit right, turn right (east). Immediately left (north) on Hass Rd. Go 2 miles north to Hass & Lincoln. >From the north, Rt. 41 south, past Oskosh, to the 113 exit (also County N, but a different county). Exit to the right. Turn left on N (go over 41) about a mile to Old Knapp road. Right on Old Knapp (south). Go 4 miles south on Old Knapp. At Lone Elm road, the road jogs a little, and become Hass Road. Proceed to N9350 (about another mile). See ya soon. Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From mlempert at bellsouth.net Tue Nov 20 06:56:20 2007 From: mlempert at bellsouth.net (M Lempert) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:56:20 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Email problem follow-up References: Message-ID: <004a01c82b7d$22395c30$6001a8c0@DadsPC> About two months ago I sent the list a message where I reported that I had started having problems with Outlook Express, my email program, and also was experiencing slow, or delayed, scrolling through Healey Digest messages. I was wondering if anyone else had similar experiences. Since then the problem persisted and I have lost blocks of messages at a time, sometimes as many as four months worth. My email situation has been a disaster. Well, it looks as though we (me and many,many other Outlook users) have identified the problem. McAfee had installed a new feature on our machines called SiteAdvisor and it was causing the problem with Outlook. Anyone out there with the lethal combination of Outlook Express and McAfee that are having any problems can contact me for information. I would also like to note that neither McAfee nor Microsoft were any help. Microsoft considers Outlook Express a legacy system and apparently gives it little attention. McAfee was totally quiet throughout the whole debacle. One of the users finally isolated the problem. The two systems are both quite popular, so I thought there must be others on the Healey list with the combination. Regards, Mike Lempert From tomfelts at windstream.net Tue Nov 20 07:00:39 2007 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (tomfelts at windstream.net) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 8:00:39 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Healey for sale--update Message-ID: <20071120140039.FFVO19750.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> The Healey (BT7) I posted for sale is a 62. Sorry for posting the incorrect year (59). Thanks to several listers for pointing this out to me. tom From msalter at precisionsportscar.com Tue Nov 20 08:50:02 2007 From: msalter at precisionsportscar.com (Michael Salter) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:50:02 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] New article on my blog. Delete if not interested. In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20071119194411.02859598@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20071120155059.23ACB187A73@autox.team.net> Good question John. There will be an article coming up in The "Austin Healey Magazine" which covers the event in all its gory details, however in part is says.... "and within 1 kilometer we went off the road when we missed a left turn at a "T" at the top of a crest. One of the disadvantages of running a Healey in this type of event is that the combination of long nose and low seating position makes seeing the road ahead very difficult as the car crests a hill, and it is that which caught us out." That's my story and I'm sticking to it... For those who don't get the mag I will post the article on my blog after publication. Michael Salter 100 (1953) AHX12 (1953) Bugeye (1961) http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/ -----Original Message----- From: john spaur [mailto:jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net] Sent: November 19, 2007 10:46 PM To: Michael Salter Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] New article on my blog. Delete if not interested. So... Looks like you got an early start at mowing down your Christmas Tree. Will we find out why you decided to "jump" the ditch in the first place? I think I did something similar may years ago while skiing; something about taking the best of two choices! Cheers, John At 04:14 PM 11/14/2007 -0500, Michael Salter wrote: >Report on AHX12s new rear suspension. >http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/ >Michael Salter From rahosmer at citlink.net Tue Nov 20 08:52:49 2007 From: rahosmer at citlink.net (Richard Hosmer) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 07:52:49 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Email problem follow-up In-Reply-To: <004a01c82b7d$22395c30$6001a8c0@DadsPC> Message-ID: Mike, I read your post with some interest, as I also use Outlook Express, on an older Mac. So far, so good - and I use Norton for my security stuff. One (more) great thing about the Mac is that 95% of the internet troubles go over your head - for example, it has NO idea what to do with an .exe file!! :-) In a similar vein, I would recommend that anyone using AOL for their email to get rid of it. Their software is invasive and quirky, causing all sorts of unexpected hiccups. How many sites have you visited where there was some sort of note posted warning AOL users to do something not required of others? I kept it for much longer than I should have, fearing the email transition. Turned out not to be a problem - you can still access your old stored mailbox file - just don't connect to them on the net. Dick Hosmer 1962 BT7 tricarb From don at anglesey.us Tue Nov 20 09:07:54 2007 From: don at anglesey.us (Don ) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:07:54 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Engine Install In-Reply-To: Message-ID: As Len said "All of these problems are eliminated if you remove and install the engine and transmission/OD as a unit." It may seem easy coming out by splitting the engine and transmission but after doing it 5 or six times on various Healeys one learns that going in or out it is much easier to have it together as one unit. Don 57' BN4 From Awgertoo at aol.com Tue Nov 20 09:40:20 2007 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:40:20 EST Subject: [Healeys] New article on my blog. Delete if not interested. Message-ID: In a message dated 11/20/2007 10:50:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, msalter at precisionsportscar.com writes: There will be an article coming up in The "Austin Healey Magazine" which covers the event in all its gory details --------------------------------------------------------------- And still another article written by me from the perspective of the Navigator's seat will be appearing in the February issue of "Healey Marque". Best--Michael Oritt ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From gaagten at hetnet.nl Tue Nov 20 09:53:31 2007 From: gaagten at hetnet.nl (Gaagten) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:53:31 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Colors A-H Message-ID: <000c01c82b95$e3284dd0$0100000a@Laptop> Hi, I need som help from the list. Could anyone explain the difference (if there is) between the color Old englisch white and Ivory white. Is there any site were I can check this? Thanks and regards, Ge BJ8 From rthrift at cox.net Tue Nov 20 11:10:24 2007 From: rthrift at cox.net (RThrift) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:10:24 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Colors A-H Message-ID: <20071120181001.BMFK25420.fed1rmmtao107.cox.net@fed1rmimpo02.cox.net> My original msg was too big for the list so I'll split it in half I've been wondering the same question lately, so I looked it up in the 2 books I just got. The two colors are the same according to these books. Original Austin Healey by Anders Clausager says "BMC was in the habit of sometimes referring to the same color by two different names. Healey Blue is the same color as Ice Blue (metallic), and Old English White is the same as Ivory White." Austin-Healey 100/100-6/3000 by Anderson & Moment says in the section on BN4-BT7 "The available white shade, coded WT.3, was called Ivory White on factory blueprints, but referred to in some sales literature as Old English (Ivory) White. It was the same shade as the previous Old English White. Pale Ivory White -which is in fact a pale yellow- was not used on Healeys." Trying to reproduce these colors is apparently an issue -see the archives. Editorgary at aol.com recently wrote "if you want to look at color shades that will be sprayed on a car, never trust any publication short of one that is printed by a specialist in rendering accurate color shades (such as Pikovnik used in his excellent Healey colors reference book which was printed by a firm specializing in make-up shade cards). " some refs to Don Pikovnik: http://www.coloramic.com/articles/ahcgtext.htm http://www.coloramic.com/articles/hlyclrs.htm BUT see the Email from me which follows Richard At 05:53 PM 11/20/2007 +0100, Gaagten wrote: >Could anyone explain the difference (if there is) between the color Old >englisch white and Ivory white. Is there any site were I can check this? From rthrift at cox.net Tue Nov 20 11:10:53 2007 From: rthrift at cox.net (RThrift) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:10:53 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Colors A-H Message-ID: <20071120181029.FZG11609.fed1rmmtao103.cox.net@fed1rmimpo03.cox.net> My original msg was too big for the list so I'll split it in half see my preceding post. ... some refs to Don Pikovnik: http://www.coloramic.com/articles/ahcgtext.htm http://www.coloramic.com/articles/hlyclrs.htm There is a thought that the colors were altered somewhat as Healey manufacturing progressed. Also: I am pretty sure my BT7's original ivory exterior looks different from when it was new 47 years ago. Others may have more practical info. For instance, Dallas Congleton suggests "My opinion is that the paints have evolved so much, the original formula codes are really of little use." R Wilhelmey wrote in 2001 "I can also tell you that various Truck "white"s of the 1980s and '90s are a good match for Old English White. There's a Honda white that is good, too. I can also give you the reflectance spectrum for the paints from the "Guide". One word of warning on Old English White: The color chip, actually two chips in the book appear to be 'off' to me and to others, so you might want to check with Don to see what he has come up with since publication. I know he was working on it last year." B Kitterer replied in 2001 "Mr. Pikovnik has sent out a letter acknowledging that there is a question concerning OEW (WT.3) and also Primrose (YL.3) in his book, a discrepancy noted by Roger Moment. The ICI codes listed by Mr. Pikovnik match those on file at ICI-UK but he has not had a documented original car in these colors to do color matches. Also I have found at least one other color in his book that the chip does not match a car. BUT IT IS VERY HARD to make printed color chips that are perfect color matches to paint chips, they are two different medias. Anyway here are some other vender & paint codes from a differerent and older listing for OEW. These are cross references for OEW (WT.3), ICI 2379; Rinshed-Mason #6642; Dupont 8207L and Ditzler 8177. I believe that Ditzler has been purchased by PPG so it should be easy to cross reference into the PPG codes. Also, PPG has a guide and paint chip book for vintage cars or vintage European cars (do not remember which) if you can find a dealer that has this book. We found that the paint formula in this book was off only by two drops of paint from the formula arrived at by an on car spectragraphic analysis of our car color." Richard At 05:53 PM 11/20/2007 +0100, Gaagten wrote: >Could anyone explain the difference (if there is) between the color Old >englisch white and Ivory white. Is there any site were I can check this? From insptwo at msn.com Tue Nov 20 12:21:36 2007 From: insptwo at msn.com (insptwo at msn.com) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:21:36 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Email problem follow-up In-Reply-To: References: <004a01c82b7d$22395c30$6001a8c0@DadsPC> Message-ID: If you think that is a problem, msn just upgraded my email and really has it screwed up. All of my older attachments and fill in stat sheets are no longer sendable, when you attempt to open them any pc you are using they tell you that "due to an internal error" they can not be opened and it doesn't make any difference what server you send it thru or what pc you are using. The best part of it is MSN plays dumb and can not answeer why it is happening. Bill BJ7 > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 07:52:49 -0800> From: rahosmer at citlink.net> To: mlempert at bellsouth.net; healeys at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Email problem follow-up> > Mike,> > I read your post with some interest, as I also use Outlook Express, on an> older Mac. So far, so good - and I use Norton for my security stuff.> > One (more) great thing about the Mac is that 95% of the internet troubles go> over your head - for example, it has NO idea what to do with an .exe file!!> :-)> > In a similar vein, I would recommend that anyone using AOL for their email> to get rid of it. Their software is invasive and quirky, causing all sorts> of unexpected hiccups. How many sites have you visited where there was some> sort of note posted warning AOL users to do something not required of> others? > > I kept it for much longer than I should have, fearing the email transition.> Turned out not to be a problem - you can still access your old stored> mailbox file - just don't connect to them on the net.> > Dick Hosmer> 1962 BT7 tricarb> _______________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > Healeys at autox.team.net> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Tue Nov 20 12:33:05 2007 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:33:05 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Early BN-1 steering box In-Reply-To: <473CFD10.80205@verizon.net> References: <473CFD10.80205@verizon.net> Message-ID: <87A5D392-2395-4B5D-A84D-3795D779A0B9@sbcglobal.net> Charley, yes we do have some used BN1 steering columns as well as some parts for them. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Nov 15, 2007, at 6:14 PM, Charley Braum wrote: > Anyone out there have an early BN-1 steering box and idler, > suitable > for rebuilding for sale or trade? > > Thanks in advance, > > > CB > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From wsthompson at thicko.com Tue Nov 20 18:10:45 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:10:45 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] SOS '07 who's watchin' who? Message-ID: <002301c82bdb$5a5c74e0$0f155ea0$@com> Hey y'all, So far, 175 folks have added to their Yahoo messenger friends list. We're likely to go "on air" around 10AM each morning, although SOS guests should plan on arriving around 9AM. That will give us an hour to get everyone lined up on our various projects, and get the cam up and running. Log into your Yahoo Messenger account, and you'll receive an invitation to join a conference. Have your speakers turned on. Once in the Floundervision conference, you can type questions, comments, and smartassed remarks that all in conference can read and reply to. If you have a mic, you can vocalize those questions, comments, and smartassed remarks. We, the folks in the shop, can hear you. We also will have a mic, so we can respond. PLEASE do not ask whomever is moderating the broadcast on our end (sometimes me, sometimes the occasional passerby) to join your conference, view your conference, or have a private chat. PLEASE make sure you have the latest iteration of Yahoo Messenger. Get it at http://messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php. Add "floundervision" to your friends list. Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From shop at justbrits.com Tue Nov 20 18:22:12 2007 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:22:12 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Engine Install References: <5185360.8129081195307267664.JavaMail.root@vms064.mailsrvcs.net><6b0ca12015a10b9ea12cada.20071117103113.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <0b3c01c82bdc$f88eb280$6601a8c0@actualshop> <> DITTO, Len!! And I have NO idea of how many I have done; both Big Healey and Sprite/Midgets!! I have done EXACTLY 2 clutch jobs (1 each) where I seperated. NEVER, NEVER, NEVER again!!!! Ed From helyjohn at cablespeed.com Tue Nov 20 19:54:34 2007 From: helyjohn at cablespeed.com (John Snyder) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:54:34 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Nasty Boy 4 sale Message-ID: <001f01c82be9$d985fb70$f030eb42@FRED> I am trying to help a local person sell her late husband's 1959 Austin Healey. It has Ford 302 V/8, Ford transmission, and a Jaguar XKE rear axle assembly. I have no idea what this car is worth or what the market for it is. The car is located just south of Port Townsend, WA. If there is any interest in this car, please call Elizabeth Duncan at 360-385-0790. I have no financial interest in this car, just trying to help out. John Snyder 1959 BN7 1960 BT7 1961 BN7 MK2 1962 BT7 MK2 From wsthompson at thicko.com Wed Nov 21 05:02:17 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 06:02:17 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] SOS '07 fine dining Message-ID: <003601c82c36$5ea09ee0$1be1dca0$@com> Hey yall, Keeping with the tradition of fine dining at SOS, this years participants will be feasting on Smoked salmon from Port Chatham, WA, sent by Bill Gilroy (thanks). Charcoal grilled pork loin, prepared in the Thicko trackside tradition, served on onion rolls. Swedish pancakes Cheese curds Friday night, well experience local fine dining (ok, its a diner)in Rosendale. They have one of the best damn banana crhme pies youll ever have. Dave Woerpel, Larry Daniels, Jeff Porassik are bringing along contributions. Are you? Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Wed Nov 21 08:58:33 2007 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 07:58:33 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Nasty Boy 4 sale In-Reply-To: <001f01c82be9$d985fb70$f030eb42@FRED> References: <001f01c82be9$d985fb70$f030eb42@FRED> Message-ID: <5223B862-DF16-4518-AEAA-ACB72885ABCD@sbcglobal.net> Is this car blue and has Jaguar torsion arm front suspension. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Nov 20, 2007, at 6:54 PM, John Snyder wrote: > I am trying to help a local person sell her late husband's 1959 > Austin Healey. > It has Ford 302 V/8, Ford transmission, and a Jaguar XKE rear axle > assembly. > I have no idea what this car is worth or what the market for it > is. The car > is located just south of Port Townsend, WA. > > If there is any interest in this car, please call Elizabeth Duncan at > 360-385-0790. I have no financial interest in this car, just trying > to help > out. > > John Snyder > 1959 BN7 > 1960 BT7 > 1961 BN7 MK2 > 1962 BT7 MK2 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From JNBrashear at garverengineers.com Wed Nov 21 09:14:57 2007 From: JNBrashear at garverengineers.com (Brashear, Jack, N) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:14:57 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Somebody please buy my superb 1973 Austin Marina - shameless sales pitch Message-ID: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE60376CF7F@glitas07.garverinc.local> I need the space for a Mini Cooper. I have lots of photos of the Marina. She is a totally restored 4-door, 1.8L, automatic, glacier white/black interior, KN alloy wheels with Michelins, and numerous LBC show trophies.. $3,500 - and worth it. Take the bus to Little Rock and drive her anywhere. She just needs a good home with a caring owner. Jack From edic at tampabay.rr.com Wed Nov 21 11:50:43 2007 From: edic at tampabay.rr.com (edic) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:50:43 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) Subject: [Healeys] Vent window BJ8 Message-ID: <47447E02.000003.03128@YOUR-55E5F9E3D2> I am trying to install new sealing rubbers on the vent windows of the vent assemblies that are out on my work bench. Everything has come off beautifull except the lower pivot Collar. I need to get this collar off in order to take the glass out and then install the sealing rubber. The exploded view of this shows that it slides on the pivot, but I can't get either one( L/H or R/H) to budge when twisting and prying with pliars. I do not want to damge this lower pivot piece and I am at wits end as to how to continue and would appreciate some guidance from someone who's been there, done that. Thanks in advance. Mel Brunet HBJ8L/39749 Land O lakes, Fl [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of newimage.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of elephant_en.gif] From dan at warner-associates.com Wed Nov 21 12:10:00 2007 From: dan at warner-associates.com (Dan Stromquist) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:10:00 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Vent window BJ8 In-Reply-To: <47447E02.000003.03128@YOUR-55E5F9E3D2> Message-ID: <004e01c82c72$1d364950$3500000a@warner.com> Mel: I believe there are rivets that hold the vent to the frame and are hard to find. I am faced with exactly the same problem and have been unable to locate these. The other option you have is to cut the rubber piece that fits in the frame to install. Please let me know if you find a source for the rivets or good instruction on how to replace outside rubber. Regards, Dan -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+dan=warner-associates.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+dan=warner-associates.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of edic Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 12:51 PM To: Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Vent window BJ8 I am trying to install new sealing rubbers on the vent windows of the vent assemblies that are out on my work bench. Everything has come off beautifull except the lower pivot Collar. I need to get this collar off in order to take the glass out and then install the sealing rubber. The exploded view of this shows that it slides on the pivot, but I can't get either one( L/H or R/H) to budge when twisting and prying with pliars. I do not want to damge this lower pivot piece and I am at wits end as to how to continue and would appreciate some guidance from someone who's been there, done that. Thanks in advance. Mel Brunet HBJ8L/39749 Land O lakes, Fl [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of newimage.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of elephant_en.gif] Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healey100m at gmail.com Wed Nov 21 12:16:26 2007 From: healey100m at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:16:26 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Front end Rebuild Message-ID: <333F706E-3743-42A9-A518-5368159F55F9@gmail.com> Hi all, I'm planning on rebuilding the front suspension and brakes of the BJ8 this winter. Any suggestions as to what to look out for, or upgrades that I should be incorporating? Randy Randy Hicks '56 100M '60 BN7 Mk I '62 BN7 Mk II '65 BJ8 '53 MG TD From edic at tampabay.rr.com Wed Nov 21 12:41:56 2007 From: edic at tampabay.rr.com (edic) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:41:56 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) Subject: [Healeys] Vent window BJ8 References: <004e01c82c72$1d364950$3500000a@warner.com> Message-ID: <47448A04.000006.03128@YOUR-55E5F9E3D2> Dan, I really didn't want to take the rivets out since I don't have the tools necessary to replace the rivets if any could be found. However, I am happy to report that I had a mini victory over 40 yr old healey stuff. I was able to get the pivot collar off by tapping the bottom of the lower pivot with a hammer and they both came sliding off, reluctantly, with no damage to any parts. Mel Brunet HBJ8L/39749 Land O lakes, FL -------Original Message------- From: Dan Stromquist Date: 11/21/2007 2:10:06 PM To: Healey List Emails Cc: 'edic' Subject: RE: [Healeys] Vent window BJ8 Mel: I believe there are rivets that hold the vent to the frame and are hard to find. I am faced with exactly the same problem and have been unable to locate these. The other option you have is to cut the rubber piece that fits in the frame to install. Please let me know if you find a source for the rivets or good instruction on how to replace outside rubber. Regards, Dan -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+dan=warner-associates.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+dan=warner-associates.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of edic Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 12:51 PM To: Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Vent window BJ8 I am trying to install new sealing rubbers on the vent windows of the vent assemblies that are out on my work bench. Everything has come off beautifull except the lower pivot Collar. I need to get this collar off in order to take the glass out and then install the sealing rubber. The exploded view of this shows that it slides on the pivot, but I can't get either one( L/H or R/H) to budge when twisting and prying with pliars. I do not want to damge this lower pivot piece and I am at wits end as to how to continue and would appreciate some guidance from someone who's been there, done that. Thanks in advance. Mel Brunet HBJ8L/39749 Land O lakes, Fl [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of newimage.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of elephant_en.gif] Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of newimage.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of elephant_en.gif] From frankyow_99 at yahoo.com Wed Nov 21 12:48:40 2007 From: frankyow_99 at yahoo.com (frank yow) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:48:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] (no subject) Message-ID: <274184.31205.qm@web54503.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Just a note of appreciation to Reid etc. for featuring Charlie Krut's car in the AHCA calendar, month Dec./07. Charlie was the motivator for the Vermont Conclave, a loss to the Healey community when he died after a long illness - a great guy. Frank Yow 1961 BT7 From sbyers at ec.rr.com Wed Nov 21 14:37:50 2007 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8Healeys) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:37:50 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Austin Healey in Film In-Reply-To: <452055.48621.qm@web30311.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: While trapped on a long flight last week, I watched The Transformers. Not my kind of flick, but it does have a long scene with a BT7 or BN7 in it. The father drives his son down to the car lot in the Healey to buy the kid's first car (a Mustang). Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of J. Scott Morris Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 1:54 PM To: Austin Healey Subject: [Healeys] Austin Healey in Film I realize this is an old topic, but here is a list with photos of the Austin Healey, Healey, and Austin cars in various movies, TV, and films. Austin Healey : http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=Austin+Healey&model Healey : http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=Healey&model Austin : http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=Austin&model Enjoy!! --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada; '60 MkI BN7, '62 MkII BT7 From wsthompson at thicko.com Wed Nov 21 14:41:06 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:41:06 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] SOS '07 Test broadcast Message-ID: <008501c82c87$3da61200$b8f23600$@com> Camera and microphone is on NOW! Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From Kendall.Freese at aerojet.com Wed Nov 21 16:40:45 2007 From: Kendall.Freese at aerojet.com (Freese, Ken) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:40:45 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Painting engine compartment Message-ID: <1B3BD9CCDD89084C9CC405C3258017F501ED42BD@SACMAIL1.aerojet.gencorp.local> I have my engine back from the dyno. 160hp max at 5000 and 175 to 183 ft-lb from somewhere under 2700 RPM to 4800. No oil leaks either. Of course my engine compartment is way to scruffy not to put the engine in. I just got a quart of paint mixed up in OE White and cut a new piece of firewall insulation. Any tips on masking the wiring harness and electrical components under the bonnet? Thanks, Ken Freese 65 BJ8 From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Nov 21 17:05:07 2007 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 08:05:07 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Austin Healey in Film In-Reply-To: References: <452055.48621.qm@web30311.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Steve.... It's a yellow camaro not a mustang! Oh well it's not a healey so I can understand the confusion. ;-P Alan On 11/22/07, BJ8Healeys wrote: > While trapped on a long flight last week, I watched The Transformers. Not > my kind of flick, but it does have a long scene with a BT7 or BN7 in it. > The father drives his son down to the car lot in the Healey to buy the kid's > first car (a Mustang). > > Steve Byers > HBJ8L/36666 > BJ8 Registry > Havelock, NC > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of J. > Scott Morris > Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 1:54 PM > To: Austin Healey > Subject: [Healeys] Austin Healey in Film > > > I realize this is an old topic, but here is a list with photos of the Austin > Healey, Healey, and Austin cars in various movies, TV, and films. > > Austin Healey : > http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=Austin+Healey&model > Healey : > http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=Healey&model > > Austin : http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=Austin&model > > Enjoy!! > > --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada; '60 MkI BN7, '62 MkII BT7 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > -- Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Wed Nov 21 17:04:58 2007 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:04:58 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Painting engine compartment In-Reply-To: <1B3BD9CCDD89084C9CC405C3258017F501ED42BD@SACMAIL1.aerojet.gencorp.local> References: <1B3BD9CCDD89084C9CC405C3258017F501ED42BD@SACMAIL1.aerojet.gencorp.local> Message-ID: Disconnect all the parts from the firewall leaving them all attached the harness. The collect the harness and misc parts into a large plastic bag. Then remove all the brake lines, insulation panels and other misc parts then prep and paint. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Nov 21, 2007, at 3:40 PM, Freese, Ken wrote: > I have my engine back from the dyno. 160hp max at 5000 and 175 to 183 > ft-lb from somewhere under 2700 RPM to 4800. No oil leaks either. > Of course my engine compartment is way to scruffy not to put the > engine > in. > I just got a quart of paint mixed up in OE White and cut a new > piece of > firewall insulation. Any tips on masking the wiring harness and > electrical components under the bonnet? > Thanks, > Ken Freese > 65 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From haywoodone at hotmail.com Wed Nov 21 17:41:43 2007 From: haywoodone at hotmail.com (George Haywood) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:41:43 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Vent window BJ8 Message-ID: Mel, Great victory over those collars. When you speak of rivets, the only rivets that you may have to remove if you are thinking of having a chrome job done are the ones that secure the locking plate for the vent window lock on the straight chrome window channel. I found rivets at British Car Specialist and then located an aircraft mechanic that came over with his equipment and more rivets, put all my rivets in, and everything looks great. Some chrome shops will chrome it with everything together and some won't. Do yourself a favor and find one that will chrome with everything together on your windshield side pillars, you will be more satisfied and less stressed when reassembly time comes. Take care, George Haywood '65 bj8 > Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:41:56 -0500> From: edic at tampabay.rr.com> To: healeys at autox.team.net; dan at warner-associates.com> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Vent window BJ8> > Dan,> > I really didn't want to take the rivets out since I don't have the tools> necessary to replace the rivets if any could be found. However, I am happy> to report that I> had a mini victory over 40 yr old healey stuff. I was able to get the pivot> collar off by tapping the bottom of the lower pivot with a hammer and they> both came sliding off, reluctantly, with no damage to any parts.> > Mel Brunet> HBJ8L/39749> Land O lakes, FL> > -------Original Message-------> > From: Dan Stromquist> Date: 11/21/2007 2:10:06 PM> To: Healey List Emails> Cc: 'edic'> Subject: RE: [Healeys] Vent window BJ8> > Mel:> I believe there are rivets that hold the vent to the frame and are hard to> find. I am faced with exactly the same problem and have been unable to> locate these. The other option you have is to cut the rubber piece that> fits in the frame to install. Please let me know if you find a source for> the rivets or good instruction on how to replace outside rubber.> Regards,> Dan> _______________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > Healeys at autox.team.net> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/connect.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_newways_112007 From sjnnock at sbcglobal.net Wed Nov 21 17:46:01 2007 From: sjnnock at sbcglobal.net (Norman Nock) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:46:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Vent window BJ8 rivets In-Reply-To: <004e01c82c72$1d364950$3500000a@warner.com> Message-ID: <656849.47032.qm@web83302.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Dan ... The rivets for the vent window and the windshield post on BJ8 & BJ7 are on page 2 in our "Rare and Hard to Find Parts Catalog "if you don't have our catalog give us a phone call , we keep these rivets in stock ... Norman Nock British Car Specialists 209 948 8767 --- Dan Stromquist wrote: > Mel: > I believe there are rivets that hold the vent to the > frame and are hard to > find. I am faced with exactly the same problem and > have been unable to > locate these. > Dan > > t want to damge this lower pivot piece and I am at > wits end as to how to > continue and would appreciate some guidance from > someone who's been there, > done that. Thanks in advance. > > Mel Brunet > HBJ8L/39749 > Land O lakes, Fl > > [ From pennell at cox.net Wed Nov 21 17:59:00 2007 From: pennell at cox.net (pennell at cox.net) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:59:00 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Painting engine compartment In-Reply-To: <1B3BD9CCDD89084C9CC405C3258017F501ED42BD@SACMAIL1.aerojet.gencorp.local> Message-ID: <20071121195900.0AQV4.104752.root@eastrmwml10> Ken, The Nocks gave some good advice. I would add one thing. You will find aluminum foil very handy in wrapping things. It can be made snug with squeezing and is a heck of a lot easier to work with than paper and tape. Keith Pennell > I have my engine back from the dyno. 160hp max at 5000 and 175 to 183 > ft-lb from somewhere under 2700 RPM to 4800. No oil leaks either. > Of course my engine compartment is way to scruffy not to put the engine > in. > I just got a quart of paint mixed up in OE White and cut a new piece of > firewall insulation. Any tips on masking the wiring harness and > electrical components under the bonnet? > Thanks, > Ken Freese > 65 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Nov 21 18:37:20 2007 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 09:37:20 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Painting engine compartment In-Reply-To: <1B3BD9CCDD89084C9CC405C3258017F501ED42BD@SACMAIL1.aerojet.gencorp.local> References: <1B3BD9CCDD89084C9CC405C3258017F501ED42BD@SACMAIL1.aerojet.gencorp.local> Message-ID: Ken - Yeah definitely listen to David on this one. It will be MUCH faster and easier to remove all the components with wires attached and let it hang down. Masking the wiring loom would probably take about 3 times as much effort as just taking the stuff off. Alan On Nov 22, 2007 7:40 AM, Freese, Ken wrote: > I have my engine back from the dyno. 160hp max at 5000 and 175 to 183 > ft-lb from somewhere under 2700 RPM to 4800. No oil leaks either. > Of course my engine compartment is way to scruffy not to put the engine > in. > I just got a quart of paint mixed up in OE White and cut a new piece of > firewall insulation. Any tips on masking the wiring harness and > electrical components under the bonnet? > Thanks, > Ken Freese > 65 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From bspidell at comcast.net Wed Nov 21 19:07:29 2007 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:07:29 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Front end Rebuild In-Reply-To: <333F706E-3743-42A9-A518-5368159F55F9@gmail.com> References: <333F706E-3743-42A9-A518-5368159F55F9@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4744E461.50805@comcast.net> Hi Randy, No one's jumped in, so I'll take a stab. I have some experience with this. First, you'll be tempted to put nylon/graphite or poly bushings in. I tried nylon, and they caused an annoying "thunk" when going over bumps. I see there are poly bushings advertised that supposedly don't squeak, but it's a big job to replace these and I think you're better off sticking with the stock rubber/steel bushings, at least for the inner A-arm bushings. I honestly couldn't tell the difference in handling with the nylon, though they definitely make the suspension stiffer. Observe the "weak link" theory: if you stiffen or strengthen one part, it puts a greater strain on other parts. I can't say for sure if it was cause and effect, but when I had the nylon bushings in I got cracking of the shock mounting plates. However, I do run nylon offset top trunnion bushings; they helped me take out some excessive positive camber. I don't think slotted or drilled rotors are necessary unless you're going to race. Invest in some really good brake pads--I've had good luck with Ferodo--and I see Moss has some "exotic" pads (e.g. kevlar), but I can't advise you on selection of those. If you want to get extravagant, replace the flex lines with stainless steel braided teflon lines. Presumably, they don't expand (as much) with pressure, and you should get a little firmer pedal (though I don't have personal experience with these). When you're done, invest in a good alignment by somebody who knows what they're doing. By taking out the excessive positive camber and getting a good alignment my car's handling improved significantly. bs Randy Hicks wrote: > Hi all, I'm planning on rebuilding the front suspension and brakes of > the BJ8 this winter. > > Any suggestions as to what to look out for, or upgrades that I should > be incorporating? > > Randy > > Randy Hicks > '56 100M > '60 BN7 Mk I > '62 BN7 Mk II > '65 BJ8 > '53 MG TD > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > -- *************************************************************** Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net '67 Austin-Healey 3000 '56 Austin-Healey 100M *************************************************************** From bspidell at comcast.net Wed Nov 21 19:14:49 2007 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:14:49 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Painting engine compartment In-Reply-To: <1B3BD9CCDD89084C9CC405C3258017F501ED42BD@SACMAIL1.aerojet.gencorp.local> References: <1B3BD9CCDD89084C9CC405C3258017F501ED42BD@SACMAIL1.aerojet.gencorp.local> Message-ID: <4744E619.6000201@comcast.net> Ken, Good numbers. Did you use stock cam, pistons, etc.? bs Freese, Ken wrote: > I have my engine back from the dyno. 160hp max at 5000 and 175 to 183 > ft-lb from somewhere under 2700 RPM to 4800. No oil leaks either. > Of course my engine compartment is way to scruffy not to put the engine > in. > I just got a quart of paint mixed up in OE White and cut a new piece of > firewall insulation. Any tips on masking the wiring harness and > electrical components under the bonnet? > Thanks, > Ken Freese > 65 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > -- *************************************************************** Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net '67 Austin-Healey 3000 '56 Austin-Healey 100M *************************************************************** From s.hutchings at rogers.com Wed Nov 21 19:20:33 2007 From: s.hutchings at rogers.com (Stephen Hutchings) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:20:33 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Painting engine compartment Message-ID: Ken, I hope the engine compartment painting goes well. I couldn't help but notice your comment about the lack of leaks. I'm gathering some info on sealants, gasket cements, etc. and I wondered if you'd like to let us know what you used. Yes, I've been following the Hylomar thread. Stephen, BJ8 From bspidell at comcast.net Wed Nov 21 19:50:24 2007 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:50:24 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Front end Rebuild In-Reply-To: <4744E461.50805@comcast.net> References: <333F706E-3743-42A9-A518-5368159F55F9@gmail.com> <4744E461.50805@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4744EE70.3020809@comcast.net> Literal "weak link" theory: when I used poly bushings on the sway bar links, I kept busting links. Stick with rubber, unless you want to upgrade the links; e.g. with Cape's rose-jointed links. bs Bob Spidell wrote: > Hi Randy, > > > No one's jumped in, so I'll take a stab. I have some experience with this. > > First, you'll be tempted to put nylon/graphite or poly bushings in. I > tried nylon, and they caused an annoying "thunk" when going over bumps. > I see there are poly bushings advertised that supposedly don't squeak, > but it's a big job to replace these and I think you're better off > sticking with the stock rubber/steel bushings, at least for the inner > A-arm bushings. I honestly couldn't tell the difference in handling > with the nylon, though they definitely make the suspension stiffer. > > Observe the "weak link" theory: if you stiffen or strengthen one part, > it puts a greater strain on other parts. I can't say for sure if it was > cause and effect, but when I had the nylon bushings in I got cracking of > the shock mounting plates. However, I do run nylon offset top trunnion > bushings; they helped me take out some excessive positive camber. > > I don't think slotted or drilled rotors are necessary unless you're > going to race. Invest in some really good brake pads--I've had good > luck with Ferodo--and I see Moss has some "exotic" pads (e.g. kevlar), > but I can't advise you on selection of those. > > If you want to get extravagant, replace the flex lines with stainless > steel braided teflon lines. Presumably, they don't expand (as much) > with pressure, and you should get a little firmer pedal (though I don't > have personal experience with these). > > When you're done, invest in a good alignment by somebody who knows what > they're doing. By taking out the excessive positive camber and getting > a good alignment my car's handling improved significantly. > > > bs > > > > *************************************************************** Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net '67 Austin-Healey 3000 '56 Austin-Healey 100M *************************************************************** From MedLabInc at msn.com Wed Nov 21 20:54:11 2007 From: MedLabInc at msn.com (Dick Matson) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:54:11 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Fw: Front end Rebuild Message-ID: Hi Randy: I used all rubber bushings for a front end rebuild several years ago on our Bj8 - except for poly 'off set' upper trunion bushings so that camber could be adjusted some if needed. I'm real happy with the results. I use the car on the road only. Dick / Bj8 ----- Original Message ----- From: Randy Hicks To: Healey List Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 11:16 AM Subject: [Healeys] Front end Rebuild Hi all, I'm planning on rebuilding the front suspension and brakes of the BJ8 this winter. Any suggestions as to what to look out for, or upgrades that I should be incorporating? Randy Randy Hicks '56 100M '60 BN7 Mk I '62 BN7 Mk II '65 BJ8 '53 MG TD From craigsuerice at iquest.net Wed Nov 21 17:03:43 2007 From: craigsuerice at iquest.net (Craig and Sue Rice) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:03:43 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Key and Barrel Removal References: <20071117132854.8F8501879BB@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <000001c82cbf$2cf21f20$f2602bd1@iquest.net> OK, now it is disassembled! Next step, put the damn thing back together again! Craig Rice BN1 & BN2 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Salter" To: ; Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 8:28 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Key and Barrel Removal > Yes Mike, that is correct. File the high spots off the crimp and with the > handle in the unlock position the parts will separate. > > Michael Salter > 100 (1953) > AHX12 (1953) > Bugeye (1961) > http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/-----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of rrengineer at dslextreme.com > Sent: November 16, 2007 11:22 PM > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] Key and Barrel Removal > > How do I get the lock barrel out of the boot lock? Looks like there is a > crimp in the square shaft that is holding it together. > > Mike MacLean > 56 BN2 > 60 AN5 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.2/1143 - Release Date: 11/21/07 10:01 AM From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Wed Nov 21 21:36:17 2007 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (James Shope) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:36:17 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] engine install Message-ID: <007901c82cc1$3946ca30$5201a8c0@Jim> i agree that on a bj8 it is a major chore to put the trans in after the engine. on the bn6, which has more room to maneuver the trans and mate it up, it was no problem. due to o/d problems, i had to take the trans out a few times, and it went back in easily. healeymanjim From pieterscheen at optusnet.com.au Thu Nov 22 00:50:28 2007 From: pieterscheen at optusnet.com.au (Pieter and Linda Scheenhouwer) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:50:28 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] disk brake sizes Message-ID: <200711220750.lAM7oW1V025084@mail35.syd.optusnet.com.au> Can anybody tell me the physical difference between BJ7 front rotors and the later BJ8 rotors. I haven't got easy access to a BJ8 set but the catalogues I am looking at seem to have the diameter/hat height the same so the only difference could be in the thickness and the stud pattern, Thanks again for any help, Pieter From sbyers at ec.rr.com Thu Nov 22 05:23:39 2007 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8Healeys) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 04:23:39 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Austin Healey in Film In-Reply-To: Message-ID: As I said, Alan, the film was not one I had any particular interest in and the Healey was about the only thing I did pay attention to. The scene was early in the picture and I kept watching, hoping the Healey would return, but it didn't. I was sure someone would let me know if the car wasn't a Mustang. Thanks! Steve -----Original Message----- From: Alan Seigrist [mailto:healey.nut at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 4:05 PM To: BJ8Healeys; Austin Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] Austin Healey in Film Steve.... It's a yellow camaro not a mustang! Oh well it's not a healey so I can understand the confusion. ;-P Alan From msalter at precisionsportscar.com Thu Nov 22 06:02:16 2007 From: msalter at precisionsportscar.com (Michael Salter) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 08:02:16 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] disk brake sizes In-Reply-To: <200711220750.lAM7oW1V025084@mail35.syd.optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <20071122130303.E35D91879C8@autox.team.net> Hi Pieter, There are differences in the thickness and the hub offset. I believe with a bit of work on a lathe late discs can be machined to fit the early cars but not the reverse. Michael Salter 100 (1953) AHX12 (1953) Bugeye (1961) http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/ -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pieter and Linda Scheenhouwer Sent: November 22, 2007 2:50 AM To: Healey List Subject: [Healeys] disk brake sizes Can anybody tell me the physical difference between BJ7 front rotors and the later BJ8 rotors. I haven't got easy access to a BJ8 set but the catalogues I am looking at seem to have the diameter/hat height the same so the only difference could be in the thickness and the stud pattern, Thanks again for any help, Pieter From mgtrcars at galaxyinternet.net Thu Nov 22 06:15:20 2007 From: mgtrcars at galaxyinternet.net (Mark and Kathy) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 08:15:20 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Engine Leveler Sale Message-ID: <004601c82d09$d24dd190$3551e104@markl946cfrd7q> FYI, For those who want to make their engine transplant and removal a bit easier, Eastwood has a 10% discount on their engine leveler and several other auto tool and instrument items. Also FWIW, stay away from the Moss Ogleberg(or what ever) leveler. Pain in the ass. No financial interest, just my Christmas present to the list Mark From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu Nov 22 06:57:13 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 07:57:13 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] SOS '07 25.5 hours away but who's counting? Message-ID: <005f01c82d0f$973c9b30$c5b5d190$@com> Hey y'all, We had a success test of Floundervision via Yahoo Messenger late yesterday afternoon. We'll have the camera up later today, and leave it on for most of the day. Fri & Sat. the cam will be up at 9AM CST to 4PM. We hope you can tune in. Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From magmay at comcast.net Thu Nov 22 08:25:23 2007 From: magmay at comcast.net (magmay at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 07:25:23 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] masking Message-ID: <002401c82d1b$e7536bb0$0202a8c0@CATMAN> I have found that the clear plastic wrap like Saranwrap is great for engine compartment paint prep. You can get several levels of "stickiness". It's cheap and stays put until your done. Great around wires. From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu Nov 22 08:53:13 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 09:53:13 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] SOS '07 remote connection instruction Message-ID: <008501c82d1f$cc2f7f00$648e7d00$@com> Hey y'all, Please pay close attention to this, as when the SOS madness breaks out tomorrow in the shop, there's little time to play "tech support" remotely. When the camera is on, it will be apparent in the message next to the "floundervision" name in your Yahoo Messenger friends list. You'll see the camera icon and some sort of smartass caption. Clicking on it will allow you to view the camera. However, to hear what's going on, to type to us and the rest of the viewers... you'll have to enter the conference. You must be invited to the conference. Be patient. we'll get to you. Here's a list of "do's and don'ts". 1. Please have the latest version of Yahoo Messenger. If you haven't used it since SOS '06, you need to upgrade. Get it at < http://messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php> 2. Don't ask us to view your camera. We're busy saving or mercy killing Spridgets and have little time to watch you sittin' by your desk with no pants on. 3. Do have your speakers or headphones turned on and turned up, otherwise you won't hear squat. I suggest running the "set up assistant" in the "calling and audio" section of the "preferences". 4. Do not try to initiate "offline" messages or calls. Myself, or anyone else dumb enough to moderate the broadcast will be busier than a one legged man in an ass kicking contest. 5. If you have a microphone, you can speak to all in the conference, as we in the shop can hear you too. We'll also have a mic, so be prepared for rebuttal. 6. Any questions you can't figure out, call the shop at (920) 266-0252. Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu Nov 22 09:07:23 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 10:07:23 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] SOS '07 phone number correction Message-ID: <000601c82d21$c67d72e0$537858a0$@com> Hey y'all, I incorrectly stated the number to the "Larry Line" at the shop(I'm an idiot. this is news?). The correct number for the Thicko shop is (920) 966-0252. Call us (tomorrow) if you're having trouble connecting to the broadcast, or need directions to the Dream Farm. Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From jstmorris at yahoo.com Thu Nov 22 09:39:30 2007 From: jstmorris at yahoo.com (J. Scott Morris) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:39:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Healeys] Tax stamps. In-Reply-To: <000b01c82710$19cb6820$0201a8c0@JIM> Message-ID: <124594.28438.qm@web30304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi James; I don't know exactly where you can find tax stamps/disc holders but they are usually available on eBay. One item number is 330191608827 http://cgi.ebay.com/BMC-Tax-Disk-Holder-suit-Mini-MG-Wolesley-etc_W0QQitemZ330191608827QQihZ014QQcategoryZ60814QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem You could also check with Mark Forster at www.mk1-performance-conversions.co.uk I am sure he can provide a variety of choices. Good luck. --Scott Morris, Simcoe, Ontario, Canada; '60 MkI BN7 & '62 MkII BT7 James Lea wrote: << Where can I find vintage tax stamps and holders? >> J. Scott Morris - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives --------------------------------- Looking for a X-Mas gift? Everybody needs a Flickr Pro Account! From grumpyinloomis at ssctv.net Thu Nov 22 11:51:14 2007 From: grumpyinloomis at ssctv.net (Jerry Costanzo) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 10:51:14 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Engine Leveler Sale References: <004601c82d09$d24dd190$3551e104@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: <001f01c82d38$a89a1d70$0500a8c0@cardinalhealth.net> I have the leveler from Harbor Freight. It works well but the cheap steel is ground down as you turn the crank. I cover up the top of the engine as I use it so it does not drop metal shavings onto the engine. you get what you pay for! Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark and Kathy" To: Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 5:15 AM Subject: [Healeys] Engine Leveler Sale > FYI, For those who want to make their engine transplant and removal a > bit > easier, Eastwood has a 10% discount on their engine leveler and several > other auto tool and instrument items. > Also FWIW, stay away from the Moss Ogleberg(or what ever) leveler. Pain > in > the ass. > > No financial interest, just my Christmas present to the list > > Mark > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Nov 22 19:06:55 2007 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 10:06:55 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Tax stamps. In-Reply-To: <000b01c82710$19cb6820$0201a8c0@JIM> References: <000b01c82710$19cb6820$0201a8c0@JIM> Message-ID: James - If you want Tax Discs go to www.holden.co.uk and then type tax disc in search and about 15 different types will show up. Alan Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Nov 15, 2007 6:45 AM, James Lea wrote: > Where can I find vintage tax stamps and holders? Thanks, JL > > James Lea > PO Box 25 > Rockport Maine 04856 > 1-207-236-3632 > > 1951 Triumph Renown > 1952 MG TD > 1952 Triumph Mayflower > 1958 Rover P4 > 1962 Austin Healey BT7 > _______________________________________________ From tomfelts at windstream.net Thu Nov 22 19:59:24 2007 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (tomfelts at windstream.net) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 20:59:24 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Healey in Ad Message-ID: <20071123025924.DVZ19750.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> Was looking at an AOL listing of types of cars stolen by State and at a stop point they displayed a car----a Healey---- ch here http://money.aol.com/insurance/auto/most-stolen-vehicles-by-state tom From tomfelts at windstream.net Thu Nov 22 20:05:06 2007 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (tomfelts at windstream.net) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 21:05:06 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Healey in Ad Message-ID: <20071123030506.ILI19750.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> Looks like it striped off the link---will try again. http://money.aol.com/insurance/auto/most-stolen-vehicles-by-state Tom > > From: > Date: 2007/11/22 Thu PM 08:59:24 CST > To: > Subject: [Healeys] Healey in Ad > > Was looking at an AOL listing of types of cars stolen by State and at a stop point they displayed a car----a Healey---- ch here http://money.aol.com/insurance/auto/most-stolen-vehicles-by-state > > tom > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au Thu Nov 22 20:12:21 2007 From: Patrick.Quinn at det.nsw.edu.au (Quinn, Patrick) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 14:12:21 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Healey in Ad In-Reply-To: <20071123030506.ILI19750.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> References: <20071123030506.ILI19750.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> Message-ID: <3CFB7014611C6F418B529D81EC0708C70169EE7B@itfexch5.central.det.win> G'day Tom It's also right hand drive. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia (Where it's not Thanksgiving) -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+patrick.quinn=det.nsw.edu.au at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+patrick.quinn=det.nsw.edu.au at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of tomfelts at windstream.net Sent: Friday, 23 November 2007 2:05 PM To: tomfelts at windstream.net; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey in Ad Looks like it striped off the link---will try again. http://money.aol.com/insurance/auto/most-stolen-vehicles-by-state Tom > > From: > Date: 2007/11/22 Thu PM 08:59:24 CST > To: > Subject: [Healeys] Healey in Ad > > Was looking at an AOL listing of types of cars stolen by State and at a stop point they displayed a car----a Healey---- ch here http://money.aol.com/insurance/auto/most-stolen-vehicles-by-state > > tom ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From healey.nut at gmail.com Thu Nov 22 21:00:48 2007 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 12:00:48 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Healey in Ad In-Reply-To: <3CFB7014611C6F418B529D81EC0708C70169EE7B@itfexch5.central.det.win> References: <20071123030506.ILI19750.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> <3CFB7014611C6F418B529D81EC0708C70169EE7B@itfexch5.central.det.win> Message-ID: funny thing is I think that picture is from South Africa or someplace off the beaten track... the center road striping is very unusual. On Nov 23, 2007 11:12 AM, Quinn, Patrick wrote: > G'day Tom > > It's also right hand drive. > > Hoo Roo > > Patrick Quinn > Sydney, Australia (Where it's not Thanksgiving) From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Thu Nov 22 22:54:03 2007 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Leonard Hartnett) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 21:54:03 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Healey in Ad In-Reply-To: References: <20071123030506.ILI19750.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net><3CFB7014611C6F418B529D81EC0708C70169EE7B@itfexch5.central.det.win> Message-ID: Is it possible that the picture is flipped horizontally? On my left had drive car the windshield wiptes come to rest to the left. On a right hand drive car, do the windshield wipers come to rest to the right? (The Other) Len Vacaville, California, USA 1967 3000 MKIII, HBJ8L39031 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Seigrist" To: "Quinn, Patrick" Cc: Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 8:00 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey in Ad > funny thing is I think that picture is from South Africa or someplace off > the beaten track... the center road striping is very unusual. > > On Nov 23, 2007 11:12 AM, Quinn, Patrick > wrote: > >> G'day Tom >> >> It's also right hand drive. >> >> Hoo Roo >> >> Patrick Quinn >> Sydney, Australia (Where it's not Thanksgiving) From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Thu Nov 22 23:12:17 2007 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Leonard Hartnett) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 22:12:17 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Healey in Ad In-Reply-To: References: <20071123030506.ILI19750.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net><3CFB7014611C6F418B529D81EC0708C70169EE7B@itfexch5.central.det.win> Message-ID: <77F8B7703E4C4C71A0971803B2ABDACB@LeonardPC> OK. So I only know how to spell "wipers" half the time. :-( It's Thanksgiving and I am full of turkey and all the trimmings! Hope all of you that celebrated it today had a good one. Len ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leonard Hartnett" To: "Healey Mail List" Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 9:54 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey in Ad > Is it possible that the picture is flipped horizontally? On my left had > drive car the windshield wiptes come to rest to the left. On a right hand > drive car, do the windshield wipers come to rest to the right? > > (The Other) Len > Vacaville, California, USA > 1967 3000 MKIII, HBJ8L39031 /healeys From healey.nut at gmail.com Fri Nov 23 02:53:56 2007 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 17:53:56 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Healey in Ad In-Reply-To: References: <20071123030506.ILI19750.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> <3CFB7014611C6F418B529D81EC0708C70169EE7B@itfexch5.central.det.win> Message-ID: Leonard - On RHD cars the wipers are flipped so you won't be able to tell. The one way you can tell is all drivers use the accelerator with their right foot, so if the outside leg is down it is RHD, if the leg next to the tunnel is down then it is LHD. This guy's right leg is up, so you might be right... it may be a reverse image of a LHD car. Also, since only 12% of the population is left-handed, and there is no watch or watch band tan line on the guy's left hand (assuming he's right hnded like 88% of the population), that would indicate that if this guy was right handed then the picture must, in fact, be a reverse image of a LHD car. By the way with his hands at 11 and 1 o'clock he looks a bit like a tosser of a driver! Alan On Nov 23, 2007 1:54 PM, Leonard Hartnett wrote: > Is it possible that the picture is flipped horizontally? On my left had > drive car the windshield wiptes come to rest to the left. On a right hand > drive car, do the windshield wipers come to rest to the right? > > (The Other) Len > Vacaville, California, USA > 1967 3000 MKIII, HBJ8L39031 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan Seigrist" > To: "Quinn, Patrick" > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 8:00 PM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey in Ad > > > > funny thing is I think that picture is from South Africa or someplace > off > > the beaten track... the center road striping is very unusual. > > > > On Nov 23, 2007 11:12 AM, Quinn, Patrick > > wrote: > > > >> G'day Tom > >> > >> It's also right hand drive. > >> > >> Hoo Roo > >> > >> Patrick Quinn > >> Sydney, Australia (Where it's not Thanksgiving) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > -- Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Fri Nov 23 02:55:17 2007 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick and Caroline Quinn) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 20:55:17 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Healey in Ad In-Reply-To: References: <20071123030506.ILI19750.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net><3CFB7014611C6F418B529D81EC0708C70169EE7B@itfexch5.central.det.win> Message-ID: <003101c82db6$f4a968a0$4101a8c0@ibm45xm8v45fmw> G'day (The Other) Len Here it is Friday night in Australia and I haven't had Turkey since last Christmas (grossly over rated poultry anyway). Yes I thought it may be a reverse image but the gauge on the left is the combined oil pressure/water temp gauge. If it was a reverse image the gauge on the left would be the fuel gauge. I always thought wipers was spelt Ypres. Australian soldiers during WW1 called the town Wipers. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+p_cquinn=tpg.com.au at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+p_cquinn=tpg.com.au at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Leonard Hartnett Sent: Friday, 23 November 2007 4:54 PM To: Healey Mail List Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey in Ad Is it possible that the picture is flipped horizontally? On my left had drive car the windshield wiptes come to rest to the left. On a right hand drive car, do the windshield wipers come to rest to the right? (The Other) Len Vacaville, California, USA 1967 3000 MKIII, HBJ8L39031 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Seigrist" To: "Quinn, Patrick" Cc: Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 8:00 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey in Ad > funny thing is I think that picture is from South Africa or someplace off > the beaten track... the center road striping is very unusual. > > On Nov 23, 2007 11:12 AM, Quinn, Patrick > wrote: From wsthompson at thicko.com Fri Nov 23 05:24:24 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 06:24:24 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] SOS '07 the time is now Message-ID: <002401c82dcb$d1db99a0$7592cce0$@com> Hey y'all, Well, a couple months of preparation starts to pay off today with the kickoff of SOS '07. In an hour or two, folks will start arriving, some from quite a great distance. We'll break into teams, each assigned to a different task. One group will be pulling springs out of the rear of Bud Pazur's Mr. White Bugeye. Another group will be helping Kris Larsen do final assembly of his latest racecar "Stapuff". I'd like to thank Kris for dropping off his trailer yesterday, right in front of the shop door. Apparently Kris believes the Thicko shop has everything. everything including a teleporter from Star Trek that allowed me to dematerialize and rematerialize the camper and boat I needed to roll out of the shop yesterday. We'll probably have 2 teams doing deconstruction of the 7 Spridgets that will become organ donors. The carcasses will resemble what's left of yesterday's turkey after the bones have been picked clean, and will be strapped to a trailer and towed over to the local scrap yard, where they'll be crushed and turned into Chinese made bench vises at Harbor Freight before you know it. One more team will be laboring over our feature project, Mary Albrecht's MKI Midget. It hasn't been on the road in 17 years. This is the car that she and her late husband drove on their first date many years ago. It's our hope the car leaves the Thicko shop under its own power tomorrow afternoon. If you can't be here, we'll see you online in a couple of hours. Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From 57healey at gmail.com Fri Nov 23 06:20:03 2007 From: 57healey at gmail.com (Patton Dickson) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 07:20:03 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Warning Before Buying a Mini Cooper Message-ID: <743b1e2f0711230520hb5367f5ld677641a744206ab@mail.gmail.com> Please view this link before you buy. http://www.counterfeitmini.com/ -- Patton Dickson - http://Austin-Healeys.com - Plano, TX 1957 Austin-Healey 100-Six "Built to run 'til the road wears out." From quenty at ntelos.net Fri Nov 23 09:32:17 2007 From: quenty at ntelos.net (Dave Schweninger) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:32:17 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Engine Leveler Sale In-Reply-To: <004601c82d09$d24dd190$3551e104@markl946cfrd7q> References: <004601c82d09$d24dd190$3551e104@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: <8BEDE650-D0FB-45A9-BA0E-C74504E41604@ntelos.net> Mark What did you find wrong with the Oberg leveler? I thought they were the best. The leadscrew type I used was a giant PIA! Dave On Nov 22, 2007, at 8:15 AM, Mark and Kathy wrote: > FYI, For those who want to make their engine transplant and > removal a bit > easier, Eastwood has a 10% discount on their engine leveler and > several > other auto tool and instrument items. > Also FWIW, stay away from the Moss Ogleberg(or what ever) leveler. > Pain in > the ass. > > No financial interest, just my Christmas present to the list > > Mark > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From haywoodone at hotmail.com Fri Nov 23 10:22:19 2007 From: haywoodone at hotmail.com (George Haywood) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 12:22:19 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Vent window BJ8 Message-ID: Dan, Sure, there is a way to get the vent window out without removing any rivets. After you remove the entire mechanism, which includes the regulator, roll up window, and then the front channel with the vent window you will need to remove the two nuts on the pivot bracket, the nut, washers, and spring on the end of the pivot. Then you must remove the collar. Some have said they tapped the bottom of the pivot lightly and the collar released. I think I may have used two screw drivers or an old fashion brake adjusting tool to pry it down. Once you have that loose and off you will need to remove the screws and upper pivot chrome bracket on the vent window frame and the whole vent window with frame will slide out by tilting the vent window laterally outboard. I bought all my vent window seals from Martin Macgregor and they fit very nicely. At first the large seal that goes around the frame opening seemed a little like it wanted to pop out of position but I left it in place on the car with the window closed for about a month or so and now they work well and do not come out of their tracks when the vent windows are operated. If your chrome shop will chrome everything together on your windshield pieces that will save you a lot of headaches. Take care and good luck, George > From: dan at warner-associates.com> To: haywoodone at hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [Healeys] Vent window BJ8> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 10:38:32 -0600> > George:> My chrome shop will do the job with the rivets in. So it does sound like> there is a way to separate the inside wing vent from the frame without> removing rivets. I will see if I can get the lower pivot out without> breaking anything but am not real sure how to do that yet.> Dan _________________________________________________________________ Put your friends on the big screen with Windows Vista. + Windows Live. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/shop/specialoffers.mspx?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_CPC_M ediaCtr_bigscreen_102007 From healeyray at yahoo.com Fri Nov 23 12:05:49 2007 From: healeyray at yahoo.com (Ray Juncal) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:05:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] knock offs Message-ID: <575642.56277.qm@web55214.mail.re4.yahoo.com> I hope all you guys have recovered from your turkey and football induced comas. ( U.S. guys that is ) For the rest of you, sorry you missed out on one of the better American traditions. So how many of you have a pile of beat up old knock offs you don't know what to do with? At least one or two huh? Maybe we can help each other out. My BN-1 came with brass not steel knock offs and for some strange reason I would like to keep it that way. This leads me to the interesting process of restoring knock offs. I don't claim it to be a bright idea but among Healey people the concept of compulsion is understood by more than a few. Anyone willing to send me a knock off or two so I have a choice of the least beat up and deformed ones to start with. A couple of mine are pretty bad. You can tell the brass ones by the green patina they have as opposed to the brown rusty look of the steel ones. I will of course pay postage etc. Yes I know that for $35 and a whole lot less effort I can buy shinny new ones. Thanks Ray Juncal --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. From msalter at precisionsportscar.com Fri Nov 23 12:32:52 2007 From: msalter at precisionsportscar.com (Michael Salter) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 14:32:52 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] knock offs In-Reply-To: <575642.56277.qm@web55214.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20071123193343.BBD8D187A11@autox.team.net> Hi Ray, How many do you want!!! http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/wp-content/4.jpg Michael Salter 100 (1953) AHX12 (1953) Bugeye (1961) http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/ -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ray Juncal Sent: November 23, 2007 2:06 PM To: List Healey Subject: [Healeys] knock offs I hope all you guys have recovered from your turkey and football induced comas. ( U.S. guys that is ) For the rest of you, sorry you missed out on one of the better American traditions. So how many of you have a pile of beat up old knock offs you don't know what to do with? At least one or two huh? Maybe we can help each other out. My BN-1 came with brass not steel knock offs and for some strange reason I would like to keep it that way. This leads me to the interesting process of restoring knock offs. I don't claim it to be a bright idea but among Healey people the concept of compulsion is understood by more than a few. Anyone willing to send me a knock off or two so I have a choice of the least beat up and deformed ones to start with. A couple of mine are pretty bad. You can tell the brass ones by the green patina they have as opposed to the brown rusty look of the steel ones. I will of course pay postage etc. Yes I know that for $35 and a whole lot less effort I can buy shinny new ones. Thanks Ray Juncal From healeyray at yahoo.com Fri Nov 23 12:48:27 2007 From: healeyray at yahoo.com (Ray Juncal) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:48:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] knock offs Message-ID: <843354.49085.qm@web55212.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Holy Kripes Mike! I knew it would be bad but not that bad. About a half dozen if you could look them over for the inside taper being deformed (stretched so the hub bottoms out) and reject those. The ears being beat up is less of a problem. Your photo shows the rusty brown steel ones with maybe some green tinted brass ones in the background. A magnet test will give up the steel ones. Let me know what you find in that box. Thanks Ray Michael Salter wrote: Hi Ray, How many do you want!!! http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/wp-content/4.jpg Michael Salter 100 (1953) AHX12 (1953) Bugeye (1961) http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/ -----Original Message----- So how many of you have a pile of beat up old knock offs you don't know what to do with? At least one or two huh? Thanks Ray Juncal --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. From edmyed at harbornet.com Fri Nov 23 14:56:00 2007 From: edmyed at harbornet.com (Richard Bittmann) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 13:56:00 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] fuel delivery problems Message-ID: <000801c82e1b$a5f7e320$6a1cbf83@richard7je7n03> I suspect my new SU squarebody fuel pump but am not sure. I don't get fuel at the carbs. I have two in-line fuel filters - one between the tank & the pump and one before the carbs in the flex line. The pump "runs wild" delivering no fuel to the fron carb. If I block or pinch the flex fuel line pressure builds until the pump stops. When let go it runs wild again. Any ideas? Richard Bittmann BJ7 Tacoma From richchrysler at quickclic.net Fri Nov 23 15:26:27 2007 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 17:26:27 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] fuel delivery problems References: <000801c82e1b$a5f7e320$6a1cbf83@richard7je7n03> Message-ID: <03a401c82e1f$e38c8480$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> Richard, The pump is sucking air at the suction side, between tank and pump. It could be a fitting between tank and pump or simply a one way valve in the pump either not seating due to dirt, a tear, or being installed inorrectly (not seated right or installed backwards). Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Bittmann" To: "healey list" Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 4:56 PM Subject: [Healeys] fuel delivery problems >I suspect my new SU squarebody fuel pump but am not sure. I don't get fuel >at > the carbs. I have two in-line fuel filters - one between the tank & the > pump > and one before the carbs in the flex line. The pump "runs wild" > delivering no > fuel to the fron carb. If I block or pinch the flex fuel line pressure > builds > until the pump stops. When let go it runs wild again. Any ideas? > > Richard Bittmann > BJ7 Tacoma > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From wilko2 at cox.net Fri Nov 23 17:20:44 2007 From: wilko2 at cox.net (Eric (Rick) Wilkins) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 16:20:44 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Healey in Ad In-Reply-To: References: <20071123030506.ILI19750.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> <3CFB7014611C6F418B529D81EC0708C70169EE7B@itfexch5.central.det.win> Message-ID: The photo is at Getty images and appears to be right hand drive: http://legacycreative.gettyimages.com/source/classes/FrameSet.aspx? s=ImagesSearchState|3|1|0|0|15|2|1||0|7|0|1|60| 2ad7.0405.03fa.e000.003d.7030.4820.e038.f30b.f9ff. 5ffb.b3e7.9ee1.73f3.b070.0017...0011..8020|1|0|0|red+car||1|0|0&pk=4 http://legacycreative.gettyimages.com/source/classes/FrameSet.aspx? s=ImagesSearchState|3|1|0|0|15|2|1||0|7|0|1|60| 2ad7.0405.03fa.e000.003d.7030.4820.e038.f30b.f9ff. 5ffb.b3e7.9ee1.73f3.b070.0017...0011..8020|1|0|0|red+car||1|0|0&pk=4 Other Healey images that have been brought up on this list are also at Getty and other stock photo sources. http://legacycreative.gettyimages.com/source/classes/FrameSet.aspx? s=ImagesSearchState|3|1|0|0|15|2|1||0|7|0|1|60| 2ad7.0405.03fa.e000.003d.7030.4820.e038.f30b.f9ff. 5ffb.b3e7.9ee1.73f3.b070.0017...0011..8020|1|0|0|red+car||1|0|0&pk=4 other image numbers relates to this shot: 252755-001 dksw00774 From edmyed at harbornet.com Fri Nov 23 17:42:18 2007 From: edmyed at harbornet.com (Richard Bittmann) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 16:42:18 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] fuel delivery problems References: <000801c82e1b$a5f7e320$6a1cbf83@richard7je7n03> <47475FC0.50609@worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: <002601c82e32$e1600cf0$6a1cbf83@richard7je7n03> Robert, Rich & Bill, Thanks for your replies. Now I have something to do tomorrow. Unfortunately, I had hoped to go driving in the cool sun shining here today but alas..... it's a Healey. It's probably crud from the fuel lines which I cleaned and re-plated before reinstalling - originality, you know? It's probably not possible to remove 30 years worth of varnish, rust, etc from within the lines. Some must have got past the filter. I'll let you know what I find. Richard Bittmann BJ7 Tacoma ps Bob Larson? Did we go thru Basic Training at Fort Ord in 1966? Do yu still live in Tacoma? The tip off - you addressed me as Rich. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Larson" To: "Richard Bittmann" Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] fuel delivery problems > Hi Rich, > > Doesn't sound like the pump.... Here's why, IMHO, the pump can > build pressure as it does > when pinched the same as it would if the float had shut it off. In your > case the float never shuts off > because fuel never raises the float and shuts it off. > My GUESS, is the pickup is bent or clogged so there is no fuel > being drawn in to the pump. I > would take a piece of tubing from the input side of the pump into a gas > can and see if the pump draws > from it. I'm of course assuming there is enough fuel in the tank that > the pickup is submerged. > Bob > > Richard Bittmann wrote: > >>I suspect my new SU squarebody fuel pump but am not sure. I don't get >>fuel at >>the carbs. I have two in-line fuel filters - one between the tank & the >>pump >>and one before the carbs in the flex line. The pump "runs wild" >>delivering no >>fuel to the fron carb. If I block or pinch the flex fuel line pressure >>builds >>until the pump stops. When let go it runs wild again. Any ideas? >> >>Richard Bittmann >>BJ7 Tacoma From shop at justbrits.com Fri Nov 23 18:08:34 2007 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 19:08:34 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Engine Leveler Sale References: <004601c82d09$d24dd190$3551e104@markl946cfrd7q> <8BEDE650-D0FB-45A9-BA0E-C74504E41604@ntelos.net> Message-ID: <040e01c82e36$89d071b0$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> I TOTALLY agree, Dave!! I have done hundreds of in and outs on Big Healeys, Spridgets (REAL POC), MG - both "B"s & "T"s, and have NEVER have a prob. (including one Chebby)!!! In fact, I loan mine out to customers and have prob'ly sold a couple dozen in the past 10 yers or so from doing so. Bet mine has more "mileage" on it than yours!! LOL Ed From wsthompson at thicko.com Fri Nov 23 18:21:55 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 19:21:55 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] [Spridgets] SOS '07 the time is now In-Reply-To: <47475C80.30604@comcast.net> References: <002401c82dcb$d1db99a0$7592cce0$@com> <47475C80.30604@comcast.net> Message-ID: <00a401c82e38$6b7030a0$425091e0$@com> You know how to get to Wisconsin... hurry up. -----Original Message----- From: Frank Clarici [mailto:spritenut at comcast.net] Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 5:05 PM To: Wm. Severin Thompson Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net; team-thicko at autox.team.net; 'Healeys'; mgs at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] SOS '07 the time is now Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > We'll probably have 2 teams doing deconstruction of the 7 Spridgets that > will become organ donors. Unless they look like Rusty, do NOT scrap those cars! What's with you guys, you scrapped Mickey and that was a fine easy project. Not that I need another project but somebody somewhere needs one or 7. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From healey.nut at gmail.com Fri Nov 23 19:49:38 2007 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 10:49:38 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Warning Before Buying a Mini Cooper In-Reply-To: <743b1e2f0711230520hb5367f5ld677641a744206ab@mail.gmail.com> References: <743b1e2f0711230520hb5367f5ld677641a744206ab@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: That is amazing, you can hardly tell they are fake. They must be made in China or something. On Nov 23, 2007 9:20 PM, Patton Dickson <57healey at gmail.com> wrote: > Please view this link before you buy. > > http://www.counterfeitmini.com/ > > -- > Patton Dickson - http://Austin-Healeys.com - > Plano, TX > 1957 Austin-Healey 100-Six "Built to run 'til the road wears out." > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > -- Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 From tomfelts at windstream.net Fri Nov 23 20:23:53 2007 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (tomfelts at windstream.net) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 21:23:53 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Healey for Sale---info Message-ID: <20071124032353.SXRH19750.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> Since letting you guys know about th 62 Tri Carb for sale locally, there has been some confusion on its' condition. As mentioned in my post, this is a car for restoration. It does have rust in obvious places and I have no way of telling how extensive this rust goes, but some of what you see is bad--i.e., lower panel. If you are planning on seeing this car, be advised it is for restoration------repeat--for restoration---and it will take a dedicated person and $$ to restore it. I do not know the seller and am not involved in the sale. What you are told and the asking price is by the seller. I do feel it is worthy of resto, but it IS in need of resto. Regards Tom From rccpl1 at yahoo.com Sat Nov 24 04:50:52 2007 From: rccpl1 at yahoo.com (john doe) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 03:50:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] healey trans Message-ID: <397554.40499.qm@web30403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> i have a bj8 center shift trans for sale that i'm going to put on ebay workf fine selling because i went with a smitty conversion what would you guys say that a fair buy it now price should be --------------------------------- Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. From wsthompson at thicko.com Sat Nov 24 05:15:36 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 06:15:36 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] SOS '07 Day 1 Message-ID: <005101c82e93$ba6572a0$2f3057e0$@com> Hey y'all, About 25 SOS'ers showed up yesterday. We got a lot done. We've got a lot more to do. Folks liked the grilled pork loin. they scarfed it all up. Swedish pancakes this AM. can anyone stop and get a couple bottles of maple syrup (and maybe lingenberries for those wanting authentic?) on their way in? Smoked salmon today, more pork, and who knows what else. Mary Albrecht's MKI Midget took some effort, but it was running sweet by day's end. We're going to have to pick up the pace on the deconstructing of the rot bucket Spridgets. Lots of good parts are being saved though. Just to ease Frank's mind. these cars are the equal to "Rusty" that he cut up a while ago. They were rotted out in the 60's and 70's, poorly repaired, and rotted again. then aged in a bed of raccoon pooh. No amount of taco bell wrappers and drywall screws would make these things safe for the road again. I've got to start making pancakes. see you online. Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From wsthompson at thicko.com Sat Nov 24 05:28:46 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 06:28:46 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] SOS '07 are you seein' what I'm seein'? Message-ID: <005d01c82e95$91305dd0$b3911970$@com> Hey. At times we had as many as 50 people viewing the webcam. 25 to 30 at times in conference. There will not be audio all the time.as it depends on the threshold levels on the hands free mic. We do our best to roll the camera cart around the shop to give you a variety of views. what you see is what you get unless you request something specifically. If you've added "floundervision" to your friends list, then the video is available to you. We invite, or re-invite folks to the conference as often as possible. When we can, we have someone sitting near the laptop to attend to things. but not always. I will adjust a setting this AM that will give a faster frame rate, and degrade picture quality somewhat. We'll see of that can keep (some of) you happy. Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From Warthodson at aol.com Sat Nov 24 07:45:00 2007 From: Warthodson at aol.com (Warthodson at aol.com) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 09:45:00 EST Subject: [Healeys] Vent window seals for BJ7 Message-ID: Is there a source for the BJ7 vent window rubber seals (they differ from the BJ8 seals)? Gary Hodson **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) From sbyers at ec.rr.com Sat Nov 24 09:05:14 2007 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8Healeys) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 08:05:14 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Registry status Message-ID: Hello, Healeyphiles - For those who care, the BJ8 Registry added its 7000th car to the record today. That's 39.5% of total production. Jim Lesher, are you still on the list? I have an update on the whereabouts of HBJ8L/41244. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA From loftusdesign at cox.net Sat Nov 24 09:50:25 2007 From: loftusdesign at cox.net (John Loftus) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 08:50:25 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Vent window seals for BJ7 Message-ID: <47485651.3010704@cox.net> Gary, I asked far and wide for the early BJ7 vent window rubber seals about 5 years ago and couldn't find any sources. I removed the chrome triangular corner from the assembly and used the BJ8 vent seals for now (the BJ8 incorporates the triangular shape into the rubber). Let me know if you or anyone else find the seals or the right profiles (the seals appear to be trimmed and glued together from a rubber extrusion) Cheers, John ---------------- Is there a source for the BJ7 vent window rubber seals (they differ from the BJ8 seals)? Gary Hodson From grumpyinloomis at ssctv.net Sat Nov 24 09:54:09 2007 From: grumpyinloomis at ssctv.net (Jerry Costanzo) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 08:54:09 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] healey trans References: <397554.40499.qm@web30403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000901c82eba$a1cd24f0$0500a8c0@cardinalhealth.net> I sold a side shift for $500. Not rebuilt, no idea if it worked. Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "john doe" To: Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 3:50 AM Subject: [Healeys] healey trans >i have a bj8 center shift trans for sale that i'm going to put on ebay >workf fine selling because i went with a smitty conversion what would you >guys say that a fair buy it now price should be > > --------------------------------- > Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From mgtrcars at galaxyinternet.net Sat Nov 24 15:29:03 2007 From: mgtrcars at galaxyinternet.net (Mark and Kathy) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 17:29:03 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] healey trans References: <397554.40499.qm@web30403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000d01c82ee9$73e515f0$f2378304@markl946cfrd7q> Ah yes the infamous jon doe. If you don't tell us the condition of the unit how would we know. Why didn't you reuse it? Does it shift? Does the OD work? Is it rebuilt? Is it complete or in boxes? Give us something Mr. doe. Not only do you keep us in suspense with your name but your question is a bit vague too. Throw us a bone Mr. doe and maybe we can be of some help. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "john doe" To: Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 6:50 AM Subject: [Healeys] healey trans >i have a bj8 center shift trans for sale that i'm going to put on ebay >workf fine selling because i went with a smitty conversion what would you >guys say that a fair buy it now price should be > > --------------------------------- > Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From schauss at worldnet.att.net Sat Nov 24 19:20:18 2007 From: schauss at worldnet.att.net (Peter Schauss) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 21:20:18 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Registry status In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20071125022108.306CA187A13@autox.team.net> Steve, How many of those are running? - Peter Schauss 1963 BJ7 1980 MGB > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces+schauss=worldnet.att.net at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces+schauss=worldnet.att.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf > Of BJ8Healeys > Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 11:05 AM > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Registry status > > Hello, Healeyphiles - > > For those who care, the BJ8 Registry added its 7000th car to the record > today. That's 39.5% of total production. > > Jim Lesher, are you still on the list? I have an update on the > whereabouts > of HBJ8L/41244. > > Steve Byers > HBJ8L/36666 > BJ8 Registry > Havelock, NC USA > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Sat Nov 24 19:42:53 2007 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (James Shope) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 18:42:53 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] fuel delivery problems Message-ID: <001801c82f0c$e107d8c0$5201a8c0@Jim> last week on a club rally, a friends bj8 did the same thing. we traced it to the pump where the solder had come loose holding the replacement copper tubing to the little cone shaped fitting from the original steel line. we removed the line, took it to my house and resolderd the fitting to the pipe. problem solved. check the soldered connnections for integrity. healeymanjim From cleona44 at hotmail.com Sat Nov 24 19:54:28 2007 From: cleona44 at hotmail.com (Jim Lesher) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 21:54:28 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Healey in Ad In-Reply-To: <20071123025924.DVZ19750.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> References: <20071123025924.DVZ19750.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> Message-ID: Fellas - one thing for certain that the car in question is a 57 100-six, with that creased hood and the single centered window washer. > From: tomfelts at windstream.net> To: healeys at autox.team.net> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 20:59:24 -0600> Subject: [Healeys] Healey in Ad> > Was looking at an AOL listing of types of cars stolen by State and at a stop point they displayed a car----a Healey---- ch here http://money.aol.com/insurance/auto/most-stolen-vehicles-by-state> > tom > _______________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > Healeys at autox.team.net> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys _________________________________________________________________ You keep typing, we keep giving. Download Messenger and join the im Initiative now. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGLM From glemon at neb.rr.com Sat Nov 24 20:46:43 2007 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 21:46:43 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Registry status References: <20071125022108.306CA187A13@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <001901c82f15$cc3e1ae0$6401a8c0@toshibauser> And are they all still in existence? or are their listings for the car that so and so submitted last month on the car he owned in college and has no idea of the whereabouts now. In any event that is agood number of the original cars documented, nice work. Greg Lemon 54 BN1 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Schauss" To: Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 Registry status > Steve, > > How many of those are running? > > - Peter Schauss > 1963 BJ7 > 1980 MGB > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: healeys-bounces+schauss=worldnet.att.net at autox.team.net >> [mailto:healeys-bounces+schauss=worldnet.att.net at autox.team.net] On >> Behalf >> Of BJ8Healeys >> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 11:05 AM >> To: healeys at autox.team.net >> Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Registry status >> >> Hello, Healeyphiles - >> >> For those who care, the BJ8 Registry added its 7000th car to the record >> today. That's 39.5% of total production. >> >> Jim Lesher, are you still on the list? I have an update on the >> whereabouts >> of HBJ8L/41244. >> >> Steve Byers >> HBJ8L/36666 >> BJ8 Registry >> Havelock, NC USA >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From palmbeachderm at yahoo.com Sat Nov 24 20:50:03 2007 From: palmbeachderm at yahoo.com (steven rosenberg md) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 19:50:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] windshield washer pump for BJ8 Message-ID: <489629.14319.qm@web53707.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I hear air moving when I press the pump button but no water moves through tubes. tried swapping tubes and checked connections but doesn't work. Any suggestions for repairing or replacing? Thanks The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Because e-mail can be altered electronically, the integrity of this communication cannot be guaranteed. From rahosmer at citlink.net Sat Nov 24 21:43:40 2007 From: rahosmer at citlink.net (Richard Hosmer) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 20:43:40 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Registries Message-ID: Listers, Is anyone keeping a registry on the earlier 3000s? I know Bill Bolton does tricarbs, and Steve Byers does BJ8s. Every once in awhile I wonder about my old BN7. Delivered in the SF Bay area in July of 1959, it was one of the first 3000s. Red with grey interior, standard version - disc wheels, no OD. I have the number somewhere, if there is someone to send it to, I'll try to find it. Thanks, Dick Hosmer 1962 BT7 tricarb From jwbn6 at verizon.net Sun Nov 25 04:07:23 2007 From: jwbn6 at verizon.net (jerry wall) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 05:07:23 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Healeys] Registries Message-ID: <1133328.35261951195988843817.JavaMail.root@vms074.mailsrvcs.net> according to page 123 of the ahc, usa resource book that would be bill naretta mnnaretta at aol.com. cheers, ===================== From: Richard Hosmer Date: 2007/11/24 Sat PM 10:43:40 CST To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Registries Listers, Is anyone keeping a registry on the earlier 3000s? I know Bill Bolton does tricarbs, and Steve Byers does BJ8s. Every once in awhile I wonder about my old BN7. Delivered in the SF Bay area in July of 1959, it was one of the first 3000s. Red with grey interior, standard version - disc wheels, no OD. I have the number somewhere, if there is someone to send it to, I'll try to find it. Thanks, Dick Hosmer 1962 BT7 tricarb _______________________________________________ JERRY WALL BN6 ROWLETT, TX From rchaskell at earthlink.net Sun Nov 25 04:05:35 2007 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 06:05:35 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Registries In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <474956FF.8060804@earthlink.net> Dick, Here's Bill's snail mail address and a different email address from AHCA's web site: Bill Naretta 3137 Brook Harbour Drive Rockford IL 61114 mcroof(at)ameritech.net Bob Richard Hosmer wrote: > Listers, > > Is anyone keeping a registry on the earlier 3000s? I know Bill Bolton does > tricarbs, and Steve Byers does BJ8s. > > Every once in awhile I wonder about my old BN7. Delivered in the SF Bay area > in July of 1959, it was one of the first 3000s. Red with grey interior, > standard version - disc wheels, no OD. I have the number somewhere, if there > is someone to send it to, I'll try to find it. > > Thanks, > > Dick Hosmer > 1962 BT7 tricarb > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From flyhihealey at hotmail.com Sun Nov 25 04:23:43 2007 From: flyhihealey at hotmail.com (Warren Dietz) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 06:23:43 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] windshield washer pump for BJ8 In-Reply-To: <489629.14319.qm@web53707.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <489629.14319.qm@web53707.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Had the same problem. Didn't use it much in later years and it sort of dried out. Took it out and immersed in water until it got "primed" and it started working again. WD 67 BJ8 " I hear air moving when I press the pump button but no water moves through tubes. tried swapping tubes and checked connections but doesn't work. Any suggestions for repairing or replacing? Thanks" _________________________________________________________________ You keep typing, we keep giving. Download Messenger and join the im Initiative now. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGLM From sbyers at ec.rr.com Sun Nov 25 04:38:20 2007 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8Healeys) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 03:38:20 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Registry status In-Reply-To: <20071125022108.306CA187A13@autox.team.net> Message-ID: Peter, I believe trying to keep track of whether a car is running or not running would be an exercise in futility. A car that is running today might be not running a year from now, or vice versa, and I would never know unless the owner told me. It's hard enough just to get owners to tell me when a car changes hands, so I don't try to keep up with whether a car is running or not. Cheers! Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Peter Schauss Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 6:20 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 Registry status Steve, How many of those are running? - Peter Schauss 1963 BJ7 1980 MGB From sbyers at ec.rr.com Sun Nov 25 06:03:00 2007 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8Healeys) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 05:03:00 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Registry status In-Reply-To: <001901c82f15$cc3e1ae0$6401a8c0@toshibauser> Message-ID: Good question, Greg. I wondered if someone would ask that. "Registry" implies that there is an owner's name associated with each car. That was true in the beginning, but since it isn't the case now "BJ8 Database" might be a better name for it. There are 948 cars in the registry for which the current location (or in some cases the actual existence) is unknown, and 1636 cars for which no current owner is known although there might be some former owners recorded. The two categories do not add, but overlap. Some of the unidentified owners are because, although I have obtained lists of cars by VIN registered with clubs around the world, for some clubs privacy laws or concerns will not allow the registrar to share names and contact info of the owners. Others are cars found on eBay, for instance, where the car obviously exists, but there is no owner identified. Information for statistical purposes is still available, though, such as colors, configuration, etc., and in some cases the body and engine numbers are given. Why document cars that may not exist? Well, the goal of the registry is to be a service and benefit to the BJ8 community. If someone reports they have a spare engine sitting in their garage. I can find out via a friend in England which car that engine was original to. It's possible that the registry knows where that original car is, and the owner might like to get his original engine back. It has happened, more than once. Or, the orphan engine might identify a car that no longer exists due to donating its parts. If I have any information at all on a particular car that I can identify by number, I record it as a "placeholder" because any information at all could be useful or helpful to someone in the future. Cheers! Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Greg Lemon Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 7:47 PM To: Peter Schauss; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 Registry status And are they all still in existence? or are their listings for the car that so and so submitted last month on the car he owned in college and has no idea of the whereabouts now. In any event that is agood number of the original cars documented, nice work. Greg Lemon 54 BN1 From ah53 at yahoo.com Sun Nov 25 06:36:15 2007 From: ah53 at yahoo.com (jomar healey) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 05:36:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Registry status In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <195770.15371.qm@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Steve I'm sure this has been said in the past but I would like to add my thanks for all the work you have done on compiling the Registry. The efforts of you and others like you make being a part of this community special. Joe BN1 #923 Coronet Cream BN2 100M BJ8 Just a great car and in the Registry BJ8Healeys wrote: Good question, Greg. I wondered if someone would ask that. "Registry" implies that there is an owner's name associated with each car. That was true in the beginning, but since it isn't the case now "BJ8 Database" might be a better name for it. There are 948 cars in the registry for which the current location (or in some cases the actual existence) is unknown, and 1636 cars for which no current owner is known although there might be some former owners recorded. The two categories do not add, but overlap. Some of the unidentified owners are because, although I have obtained lists of cars by VIN registered with clubs around the world, for some clubs privacy laws or concerns will not allow the registrar to share names and contact info of the owners. Others are cars found on eBay, for instance, where the car obviously exists, but there is no owner identified. Information for statistical purposes is still available, though, such as colors, configuration, etc., and in some cases the body and engine numbers are given. Why document cars that may not exist? Well, the goal of the registry is to be a service and benefit to the BJ8 community. If someone reports they have a spare engine sitting in their garage. I can find out via a friend in England which car that engine was original to. It's possible that the registry knows where that original car is, and the owner might like to get his original engine back. It has happened, more than once. Or, the orphan engine might identify a car that no longer exists due to donating its parts. If I have any information at all on a particular car that I can identify by number, I record it as a "placeholder" because any information at all could be useful or helpful to someone in the future. Cheers! Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Greg Lemon Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 7:47 PM To: Peter Schauss; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 Registry status And are they all still in existence? or are their listings for the car that so and so submitted last month on the car he owned in college and has no idea of the whereabouts now. In any event that is agood number of the original cars documented, nice work. Greg Lemon 54 BN1 Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. From healey3000bn7 at yahoo.com Sun Nov 25 09:10:54 2007 From: healey3000bn7 at yahoo.com (Carlos Cruz) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 08:10:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Help Needed from Seattle-Area Listers Message-ID: <211620.58063.qm@web50009.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Good morning, I hope you can help me out if you're in the Seattle area, if not please disregard this message. I'm looking for some area information on Bainbridge Island. Please contact me off list if you can help. How is the traffic on Bainbridge Is. specifically during early morning and evening commuting times? Along that line, what is the parking situation like at the ferry terminal in the morning? Is a spot easy to find? Are there any ground clearance issues with getting a Healey on or off the ferry? Do you happen to know anyone with a house to rent on the island or know a good source to check into? Thank you in advance for any help you can offer? Cheers, Carlos Cruz ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From mkgoodman at worldnet.att.net Sun Nov 25 12:39:31 2007 From: mkgoodman at worldnet.att.net (Mark Goodman) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 14:39:31 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Thank You !!!!!!!! Message-ID: <000301c82f9a$e698ecf0$b3cac6d0$@att.net> Steve, I agree with Joe and also want to thank you especially and the other people who try to keep track of all the Cars that we love. I remember just a few years ago that you only had 5000 BJ8's accounted for. Your tireless work has been of great assistance to many people. Keep up the good work !!!!! Mark Goodman 66 BJ8 35503 From pennell at cox.net Sun Nov 25 12:40:02 2007 From: pennell at cox.net (pennell at cox.net) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 14:40:02 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Registries In-Reply-To: <1133328.35261951195988843817.JavaMail.root@vms074.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <20071125144002.5DVM7.122470.root@eastrmwml10> Guys, There is also someone in UK who compiles a BN7 registry. Cannot recall the name though. Maybe someone on this list? Keith Pennell BJ8, BN7 > according to page 123 of the ahc, usa resource book that would be bill naretta mnnaretta at aol.com. > cheers, > > ===================== > From: Richard Hosmer > Date: 2007/11/24 Sat PM 10:43:40 CST > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] Registries > > Listers, > > Is anyone keeping a registry on the earlier 3000s? I know Bill Bolton does > tricarbs, and Steve Byers does BJ8s. > > Every once in awhile I wonder about my old BN7. Delivered in the SF Bay area > in July of 1959, it was one of the first 3000s. Red with grey interior, > standard version - disc wheels, no OD. I have the number somewhere, if there > is someone to send it to, I'll try to find it. > > Thanks, > > Dick Hosmer > 1962 BT7 tricarb > _______________________________________________ > > > JERRY WALL BN6 > ROWLETT, TX From tomfelts at windstream.net Sun Nov 25 12:52:07 2007 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (tomfelts at windstream.net) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:52:07 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Thank You !!!!!!!! Message-ID: <20071125195207.MMPH19750.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> Steve had to almost beat me up to get me to give up my VIN # to him----but--he persisted and I gave----that was before I knew you Steve--------now, I'n not so sure!!:):):):) Hey anyone with TarHealey on their license plate can't be all bad:) Thanks for the great work Steve. Tom > > From: "Mark Goodman" > Date: 2007/11/25 Sun PM 01:39:31 CST > To: "'BJ8Healeys'" > CC: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] Thank You !!!!!!!! > > Steve, > > > > I agree with Joe and also want to thank you especially and the other people > who try to keep track of all the Cars that we love. I remember just a few > years ago that you only had 5000 BJ8's accounted for. Your tireless work > has been of great assistance to many people. Keep up the good work !!!!! > > > > Mark Goodman > > 66 BJ8 35503 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From ynotink at msn.com Sun Nov 25 12:52:53 2007 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:52:53 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] OFF WITH HER HEAD!!! Message-ID: For the second time in about 3000 miles my 100 has blown a head gasket between #3 and #4 cylinders. I have the head off now and am having it surfaced. I've checked the block with a straight edge and feeler guage and it seems flat. That being said I have a few questions for those who may have insght into this problem: First: I notice that the combustion chamber and the cylinder are not quite the same shape which causes the head gasket (cut to match the block) to hang over into the combustion chamber by a few millimeters. That would seem to me to provide a potential hot spot for preignition, detonation (Hmmm! Afterrun anyone?) and a weak point in the gasket. Does anyone make a gasket that eliminates or minimizes this overhang or is materially superior to the Payen brand gasket that Moss normally provides? Does ayone make a steel gasket that doesn't cost $350? Second: I am thinking about buying and installing a set of high strength head bolts from Dennis Welch. Is there really an advantage to this? The original studs I am using do not seem to be stressed or stretched and the specified torque value doesn't seem capable of distorting them. I know that the head bolts in some engines are critical and need to be replaced anytime they are removed, but these don't seem to be in that category. Do the high strength studs allow a higher head torque to be used and if so what are the pros and cons? Looking for durability. Bill Lawrence BN1 # 554 From sbyers at ec.rr.com Sun Nov 25 12:55:06 2007 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8Healeys) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 11:55:06 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Registries In-Reply-To: <20071125144002.5DVM7.122470.root@eastrmwml10> Message-ID: The AHCA registries website identifies each model registrar: http://www.healeyclub.org/registries.htm Mell Ward is the keeper of the UK 3000 register for all 3000 models: russward at lineone.net I believe she still monitors the list. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of pennell at cox.net Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 11:40 AM To: jerry wall; Richard Hosmer Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Registries Guys, There is also someone in UK who compiles a BN7 registry. Cannot recall the name though. Maybe someone on this list? Keith Pennell BJ8, BN7 From sbyers at ec.rr.com Sun Nov 25 13:03:13 2007 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8Healeys) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 12:03:13 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Thank You !!!!!!!! In-Reply-To: <20071125195207.MMPH19750.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> Message-ID: Aw, Tom, 'twarn't nothin' (blush) - But since TARHEALY is (or used to be) on another North Carolina BJ8, let me correct that to TARHEELY for mine (they only give us eight characters here). We were parked side by side once at the Tanglewood show several years ago, but I haven't seen that other car in years. Cheers! Steve -----Original Message----- From: tomfelts at windstream.net [mailto:tomfelts at windstream.net] Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 11:52 AM To: mkgoodman at worldnet.att.net; 'BJ8Healeys' Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Thank You !!!!!!!! Steve had to almost beat me up to get me to give up my VIN # to him----but--he persisted and I gave----that was before I knew you Steve--------now, I'n not so sure!!:):):):) Hey anyone with TarHealey on their license plate can't be all bad:) Thanks for the great work Steve. Tom From Waschu2 at charter.net Sun Nov 25 13:03:32 2007 From: Waschu2 at charter.net (Wayne) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 15:03:32 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Registry Message-ID: <4749D514.1090909@charter.net> Hi Everyone, My question for Steve is, how many BJ-8 Healeys are known to be parted out, destroyed, etc. and are these included in the 7000? So my second question is, how many Registry records are cars we will never see again? I think,Steve has done a great for many years with the BJ-8 registry and we all should help him out with any information that we can supply about any BJ-8 , destroyed, running or in between. Wayne HBJ8-42623 From healey.1 at hotmail.com Sun Nov 25 13:21:52 2007 From: healey.1 at hotmail.com (Mike Louwagie) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 21:21:52 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] to look at car NY-area Message-ID: Hi, is there some one from the list who could take a look at a car in the NY area. ZIP code 14564 Victor. Contact me of the list. Thanks, Mike. _________________________________________________________________ Deel je gedachten direct met je vrienden From sbyers at ec.rr.com Sun Nov 25 13:25:27 2007 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8Healeys) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 12:25:27 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Registry In-Reply-To: <4749D514.1090909@charter.net> Message-ID: Hi, Wayne - The registry records only 47 cars out of the 7000 that are definitely known to have been parted out/destroyed or otherwise no longer exist. Such cars are, of course, much harder to identify now than those that still do exist. Occasionally, someone will let me know that they have a record of the VIN of a car they parted out or sent to the junkyard in 1973, or they have engine X or a body plate that came out of a car they junked. Via a friend in England who has access to the BMIHT archives, I can find out which chassis that engine or body belonged to, and voila, another scrapped car is identified. A whole bunch of them disappeared without a trace and will never be identified because there was nowhere to document it and who cared anyway? Nobody can guarantee that a scrapped car won't "live" again as long as the I.D. plates do. One of them sold for big bucks at Barrett-Jackson this year. ;^) Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Wayne Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 12:04 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Registry Hi Everyone, My question for Steve is, how many BJ-8 Healeys are known to be parted out, destroyed, etc. and are these included in the 7000? So my second question is, how many Registry records are cars we will never see again? I think,Steve has done a great for many years with the BJ-8 registry and we all should help him out with any information that we can supply about any BJ-8 , destroyed, running or in between. Wayne HBJ8-42623 From shop at justbrits.com Sun Nov 25 17:04:33 2007 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 18:04:33 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Just when we... References: Message-ID: <0b6101c82fbf$f5b10fe0$6501a8c0@actualshop> ...finish enjoying Michael Salter & Michael Oritt's "adventures"... http://classiccar.woop.tv/Members/classiccar/my-videos/launch-of-the-ford-v8 Enjoy!!! Ed From msalter at precisionsportscar.com Sun Nov 25 17:14:10 2007 From: msalter at precisionsportscar.com (Michael Salter) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:14:10 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Just when we... In-Reply-To: <0b6101c82fbf$f5b10fe0$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <20071126001509.17FBA187A5F@autox.team.net> I particularly like the helmet...LOL Michael Salter 100 (1953) AHX12 (1953) Bugeye (1961) http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/ -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of shop at justbrits.com Sent: November 25, 2007 7:05 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Just when we... ...finish enjoying Michael Salter & Michael Oritt's "adventures"... http://classiccar.woop.tv/Members/classiccar/my-videos/launch-of-the-ford-v8 Enjoy!!! Ed From Awgertoo at aol.com Sun Nov 25 17:25:35 2007 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:25:35 EST Subject: [Healeys] Just when we... Message-ID: In a message dated 11/25/2007 7:06:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, shop at justbrits.com writes: ...finish enjoying Michael Salter & Michael Oritt's "adventures"... http://classiccar.woop.tv/Members/classiccar/my-videos/launch-of-the-ford-v8 -------------------------------------------- Michael-- I think we need to investigate one of those Fords for next year's event. Best--Michael **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) From gardner5 at comcast.net Sun Nov 25 18:28:12 2007 From: gardner5 at comcast.net (gardner5 at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 01:28:12 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] 100 interior Message-ID: <112620070128.14083.474A212B000BDDDD0000370322134843739D0A020B9D0E090A0B0106@comcast.net> What are good sources for pics and/or installation technique for a BN2 interior? The interior was missing when I bought the car, so I didn't have the luxury of "reverse engineering" to aid in installation. Thanks in advance, Joel BN2 -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Michael Salter" > I particularly like the helmet...LOL > > Michael Salter > 100 (1953) > AHX12 (1953) > Bugeye (1961) > http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of shop at justbrits.com > Sent: November 25, 2007 7:05 PM > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] Just when we... > > ...finish enjoying Michael Salter & Michael Oritt's "adventures"... > > http://classiccar.woop.tv/Members/classiccar/my-videos/launch-of-the-ford-v8 > > Enjoy!!! > > Ed > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From drmasucci at comcast.net Sun Nov 25 18:39:48 2007 From: drmasucci at comcast.net (David Masucci) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:39:48 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] OFF WITH HER HEAD!!! References: Message-ID: <01b901c82fcd$3d158200$6501a8c0@signalfaf714f1> Bill, I''m not an expert, but I did my own rebuild of my BJ8 engine a number of years back. After I completed the rebuild it ran great for one season. The following year I had what appeared to be a head gasket problem. When I removed the head I discovered that one of my re-used head bolts had literally snapped. I replaced all of the bolts with stock grade new bolts and she's been fine for years now. Just my experience. Dave 64 BJ8 03 Mini Cooper S ----- Original Message ----- From: "WILLIAM B LAWRENCE" To: Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 2:52 PM Subject: [Healeys] OFF WITH HER HEAD!!! > For the second time in about 3000 miles my 100 has blown a head gasket > between #3 and #4 cylinders. I have the head off now and am having it > surfaced. I've checked the block with a straight edge and feeler guage and > it seems flat. > > That being said I have a few questions for those who may have insght into > this problem: > > First: I notice that the combustion chamber and the cylinder are not quite > the same shape which causes the head gasket (cut to match the block) to > hang > over into the combustion chamber by a few millimeters. That would seem to > me > to provide a potential hot spot for preignition, detonation (Hmmm! > Afterrun > anyone?) and a weak point in the gasket. Does anyone make a gasket that > eliminates or minimizes this overhang or is materially superior to the > Payen > brand gasket that Moss normally provides? Does ayone make a steel gasket > that doesn't cost $350? > > Second: I am thinking about buying and installing a set of high strength > head bolts from Dennis Welch. Is there really an advantage to this? The > original studs I am using do not seem to be stressed or stretched and the > specified torque value doesn't seem capable of distorting them. I know > that > the head bolts in some engines are critical and need to be replaced > anytime > they are removed, but these don't seem to be in that category. Do the high > strength studs allow a higher head torque to be used and if so what are > the > pros and cons? > > Looking for durability. > > > > Bill Lawrence > BN1 # 554 From tomkayb at verizon.net Sun Nov 25 18:56:05 2007 From: tomkayb at verizon.net (Thomas Blaskovics) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:56:05 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Registries References: Message-ID: <00fb01c82fcf$82065d10$04000100@iagllc> The BJ7 Registry just passed 981 cars. That's around 16% of the original build. Tom Blaskovics BJ7 Registry tomkayb at verizon.net HAPPY HEALEYING ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Hosmer" To: Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 11:43 PM Subject: [Healeys] Registries > Listers, > > Is anyone keeping a registry on the earlier 3000s? I know Bill Bolton does > tricarbs, and Steve Byers does BJ8s. > > Every once in awhile I wonder about my old BN7. Delivered in the SF Bay > area > in July of 1959, it was one of the first 3000s. Red with grey interior, > standard version - disc wheels, no OD. I have the number somewhere, if > there > is someone to send it to, I'll try to find it. > > Thanks, > > Dick Hosmer > 1962 BT7 tricarb > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From Rusd at sitestar.net Sun Nov 25 19:19:35 2007 From: Rusd at sitestar.net (Dave Russell) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:19:35 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] [Fwd: Re: OFF WITH HER HEAD!!!] Message-ID: <474A2D37.7050706@sitestar.net> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Healeys] OFF WITH HER HEAD!!! Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 15:47:25 -0700 From: Dave Russell To: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE CC: Healey List References: Hi Bill, A few comments from personal experience. Attached is a pic of a cylinder head, a standard gasket laid on it, & a circle of white paper that is cut to exact cylinder bore diameter & positioned in the correct location of the cylinder bore. Yes, the combustion chamber edges at the exhaust valves DO hang over the block (the chamber is wider than the cylinder bores). The gasket is scalloped accordingly to match the chamber contour. No part of the gasket is not backed up by the cylinder head surface. The gasket must be contoured to match the cylinder head not the block. The Hundred Four does NOT have an optimum head bolt pattern & this makes the head to block fit very critical. 1- It is important that the head & block surfaces be PERFECTLY flat. 2- High strength studs, nuts, & hardened steel washers, such as the DWR set, will help assure that the head is firmly clamped & that it stays so. When using new studs, they should all be torqued to spec, loosened & retorqued, several times to smooth up the threads before final torquing. Don't forget sealer on the studs which may extend into the water jackets. Upper stud threads should be lubricated. 3- The multi layer steel gasket from DWR is of the latest technology. The three steel layers are free to move against each other with temperature expansion changes & thus maintain a perfect seal under all conditions. Expensive?, yes, but well worth it in my opinion. This type of gasket DOES require a much smoother cylinder head & block face finish than the usual milling operation in order to work as it should. This gasket has the same contours as the correct standard gasket. 4- I recently rebuilt my Four using the DWR aluminum head, a compression ratio of 9.8:1, & the previously mentioned gasket, studs, & milling. It has not needed retorquing & shows no signs of leakage of compression or of coolant. Not sure how many corners you may be able to cut without problems, but a good seal can be obtained. Don't overlook the fact that you just "might" have a crack in the cylinder head. The machine shop should be able to check before milling. Good luck, Dave Russell BN2 WILLIAM B LAWRENCE wrote: >For the second time in about 3000 miles my 100 has blown a head gasket >between #3 and #4 cylinders. I have the head off now and am having it >surfaced. I've checked the block with a straight edge and feeler guage and >it seems flat. -- Snip -- From williamsantiks at hotmail.com Sun Nov 25 20:29:36 2007 From: williamsantiks at hotmail.com (William Berg) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:29:36 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] OFF WITH HER HEAD!!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I say Spend the money, Its about quality of Pleasure time and frequent rebuilds are not pleasurable, I bought the Welsh Head gasket, Studs and head bolts/nuts. Peace of mind is worth it -William Berg '54 BN1 _________________________________________________________________ Put your friends on the big screen with Windows Vista. + Windows Live. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/shop/specialoffers.mspx?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_CPC_M ediaCtr_bigscreen_102007 From Healey100M at gmail.com Sun Nov 25 20:37:01 2007 From: Healey100M at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:37:01 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] OFF WITH HER HEAD!!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3AC6179D-B7EA-4451-BAFC-10FFD4DFBE81@gmail.com> I agree with Bill. I did the same setup on the 100M 2 years ago, no problems and no leaks at all. Randy Randy Hicks '56 100M '60 BN7 MkI '62 BN7 MkII '65 BJ8 '53 MGTD Healey100M at gmail.com On Nov 25, 2007, at 10:29 PM, William Berg wrote: > I say Spend the money, Its about quality of Pleasure time and frequent > rebuilds are not pleasurable, > I bought the Welsh Head gasket, Studs and head bolts/nuts. Peace of > mind is > worth it -William Berg '54 BN1 From richchrysler at quickclic.net Sun Nov 25 21:44:02 2007 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 23:44:02 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] 100 interior References: <112620070128.14083.474A212B000BDDDD0000370322134843739D0A020B9D0E090A0B0106@comcast.net> Message-ID: <001b01c82fe6$f813cd50$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> Joel, Contact me dirctly and I think I can likely help you there. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Michael Salter" ; ; Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 interior > What are good sources for pics and/or installation technique for a BN2 > interior? The interior was missing when I bought the car, so I didn't > have the luxury of "reverse engineering" to aid in installation. > Thanks in advance, > > Joel > BN2 From ynotink at msn.com Sun Nov 25 23:33:20 2007 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 06:33:20 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] OFF WITH HER HEAD!!! In-Reply-To: <4749FB7D.6070805@sitestar.net> Message-ID: Dave, Thanks for your response. The head has been checked and is in good condition although I'm replacing valves and guides. I see what you mean about the scallop for the combustion chamber, but the overhang I was talking about is between the siamesed cylinders. I measured a spare head I have and the distance between the combustion chambers is approximately .284" to .290" I also measured two gaskets in the same area and they were between .305" and .320". That leaves about .020" or .030" hanging out. I suppose some gaskets are better than others depending on manufacturer, batch etc. I would just like to know if there is a better design. >From the comments I've gotten it looks like I'll be ponying up to Dennis Welch for a steel gasket, although I would like to know more about the solid copper version. Even though I will certainly end up with a more durable gasket either way I would still like to know that there isn't any excess metal hanging out in the combustion chamber to glow and cause preignition. My car has a problem with after running and that might be a cause. The solid copper may be able to be modified to avoid that. Thanks again. Bill Lawrence From glemon at neb.rr.com Sun Nov 25 23:44:06 2007 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 00:44:06 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] OFF WITH HER HEAD!!! References: Message-ID: <00c501c82ff7$be147b20$6401a8c0@toshibauser> When I rebuilt my 100 motor last summer both the block and head were planed smooth by the machine shop. I re-used the studs and bolts, I did add Permatex copper head gasket sealant, as I did when I pulled the head a few years back just the check things out. No head gasket problems either time, although I did get a little weeping out the side after I removed it the first time years ago. No internal leaks either time. Even with the higher compression to M spec after the rebuild. Don't know if the copper spray helps, or I was just lucky. Seems like I read of an Australian source for the steal gaskets for a lot less ($100 or maybe it was $200, but definitely much less than $350) Patrick Q do you have any information on the Aussie head gaskets??? Greg Lemon 54 BN1 From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Nov 26 05:23:16 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 06:23:16 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] SOS '07 whew Message-ID: <00fa01c83027$210347a0$6309d6e0$@com> Hey y'all, Basking in the SOS afterglow here.. OK. that's not true. Recovering is closer to the mark. We had around 25 folks here Fri., and a dozen or so Sat. We worked. We ate. We worked some more, we ate some more. We got a lot done, but we're left with more to do. Kris Larsen brought his plasma cutter, but got sidetracked on his racecar project. I bought oxygen for my torch last week, yet somehow managed to not notice I needed acetylene. So, 4 Spridgets were relieved of many of their organ donor items, but await their final destiny. On Mary's MKI Midget, the team got that thing running so sweet it's really hard to believe. The right front wire wheel defied all attempts to remove it, and I finally had to get out the blue wrench and torch it off. I managed to do so without destroying the hub. Anyone got a spare wire wheel for Mary? We're going to get a smaller SOS group together (would that be sos?) in a couple of weeks and finish up the brakes on it and get it back to Madison. Thanks to all who attended, and those of you that had a vicarious experience via the Floundervision webcast. Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From 57healey at gmail.com Mon Nov 26 07:36:30 2007 From: 57healey at gmail.com (Patton Dickson) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 08:36:30 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] 100 interior In-Reply-To: <112620070128.14083.474A212B000BDDDD0000370322134843739D0A020B9D0E090A0B0106@comcast.net> References: <112620070128.14083.474A212B000BDDDD0000370322134843739D0A020B9D0E090A0B0106@comcast.net> Message-ID: <743b1e2f0711260636u4f32f8e1j7ea5cab6252f4094@mail.gmail.com> Good luck on that. My Longridge BN4 had an interior what was nothing more than carpet glued to everything thing (come to think of it, my old Sprite was the same way). Several listers have been kind enough to provide me with detailed pictures of their Longbridge cars to help me sort out what I need. I am sure that you will get help. Patton On Nov 25, 2007 7:28 PM, wrote: > What are good sources for pics and/or installation technique for a BN2 interior? The interior was missing when I bought the car, so I didn't have the luxury of "reverse engineering" to aid in installation. > Thanks in advance, > > Joel > BN2 -- Patton Dickson - http://Austin-Healeys.com - Plano, TX 1957 Austin-Healey 100-Six "Built to run 'til the road wears out." From williamsantiks at hotmail.com Mon Nov 26 09:48:28 2007 From: williamsantiks at hotmail.com (William Berg) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 08:48:28 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Bill Berg on the Austin-Healey List In-Reply-To: <00d401c83040$f7cbd4f0$1f9bfea9@dell> References: <00d401c83040$f7cbd4f0$1f9bfea9@dell> Message-ID: Apparently there are two of us except I go by William not Bill =William Berg From: bluechipracing at snet.net To: williamsantiks at hotmail.com; Bill.Berg at vtcomposites.com Subject: Bill Berg on the Austin-Healey List Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:28:16 -0500 Are there two Bill Bergs? or only one with two addresses? Jim Smith East Hampton, CT _________________________________________________________________ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live.Download today it's FREE! http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_sharelife_112007 From dan at warner-associates.com Mon Nov 26 09:49:43 2007 From: dan at warner-associates.com (Dan Stromquist) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:49:43 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] fuel delivery problems In-Reply-To: <000801c82e1b$a5f7e320$6a1cbf83@richard7je7n03> Message-ID: <001a01c8304c$583c3e50$3500000a@warner.com> Richard: Try putting a little air pressure in to the gas tank with your air compresser and a rag to prime the gas pump. I had the same problem and that solved it for me. Dan -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+dan=warner-associates.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+dan=warner-associates.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard Bittmann Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 3:56 PM To: healey list Subject: [Healeys] fuel delivery problems I suspect my new SU squarebody fuel pump but am not sure. I don't get fuel at the carbs. I have two in-line fuel filters - one between the tank & the pump and one before the carbs in the flex line. The pump "runs wild" delivering no fuel to the fron carb. If I block or pinch the flex fuel line pressure builds until the pump stops. When let go it runs wild again. Any ideas? Richard Bittmann BJ7 Tacoma Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From mbruce6 at cogeco.ca Mon Nov 26 11:12:41 2007 From: mbruce6 at cogeco.ca (Mal Bruce) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:12:41 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BN2 Project Message-ID: <000a01c83057$f016e760$0ef58d18@malu90qufe8fqw> Anyone interested in a very complete and original car to restore contact me off the list. Located in Southern Ontario Canada and includes the usual rust. Mal Bruce 905 339 3552 From theswed at hotmail.com Mon Nov 26 13:03:30 2007 From: theswed at hotmail.com (Kenny J) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 12:03:30 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Mechanic/Hard Starting Message-ID: Anyone in the SF Bay Area that can recommend a mechanic (Pleasanton/Livermore Area)? I believe I am having problems with my choke. When the weather changed (dipping into the 40's), my car became very difficult to start. Once started, it runs awesome. From looking at the archives, sounds like I have a choke problem. Before I moved, the car would start up immediately (hot or cold). Must be the Bay Area air. Thanks. Kenny 61 BT-7 _________________________________________________________________ Your smile counts. The more smiles you share, the more we donate. Join in. www.windowslive.com/smile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_oprsmilewlhmtagline From ahbn6 at optonline.net Mon Nov 26 13:15:15 2007 From: ahbn6 at optonline.net (John Sims) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:15:15 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Mechanic/Hard Starting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <006201c83069$0eec84e0$6500a8c0@simsoffice> If my geography serves me correctly, you are not that far away from the Nocks in Stockton. I would driver there since as you state, once started it runs well so just drive over there! John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kenny J Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 3:04 PM To: Healeys Healeys Subject: [Healeys] Mechanic/Hard Starting Anyone in the SF Bay Area that can recommend a mechanic (Pleasanton/Livermore Area)? I believe I am having problems with my choke. When the weather changed (dipping into the 40's), my car became very difficult to start. Once started, it runs awesome. From looking at the archives, sounds like I have a choke problem. Before I moved, the car would start up immediately (hot or cold). Must be the Bay Area air. Thanks. Kenny 61 BT-7 _________________________________________________________________ Your smile counts. The more smiles you share, the more we donate. Join in. www.windowslive.com/smile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_oprsmilewlhmtagline Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From shop at justbrits.com Mon Nov 26 17:12:58 2007 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:12:58 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Just when we... References: Message-ID: <06b301c8308a$44b06490$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> Of all the Listers I "know", Michael O., you TWO "would" be the BEST!!! LOL Anon From shop at justbrits.com Mon Nov 26 17:28:53 2007 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:28:53 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] OFF WITH HER HEAD!!! References: <00c501c82ff7$be147b20$6401a8c0@toshibauser> Message-ID: <06e401c8308c$7db55690$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> Me too, Greg!?!? Old Archives?? Ed From Rusd at sitestar.net Mon Nov 26 17:58:17 2007 From: Rusd at sitestar.net (Dave Russell) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:58:17 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] OFF WITH HER HEAD!!! In-Reply-To: <06e401c8308c$7db55690$6501a8c0@actualshop> References: <00c501c82ff7$be147b20$6401a8c0@toshibauser> <06e401c8308c$7db55690$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <474B6BA9.1000900@sitestar.net> Hi Guys, Not all steel head gaskets are the same. The DWR gasket is MLS. Quote from another source: --- "MLS head gaskets are made of several layers of embossed stainless steel. A thin coating (0.001- to 0.0015-inch) of nitrile rubber or Viton is used on the external surfaces as well as between the layers to provide maximum sealing. MLS gaskets are almost bullet-proof - but also more expensive than conventional soft-faced gaskets. Even so, if you want to fix the problem once and for all, MLS is the way to go. They require a smooth surface finish, 20 RA, very smooth. Head & block flat to less than .002." ---- The layers are loosely held in alignment by four small external rivets. Are the cheaper steel gaskets MLS or just embossed steel? To my knowledge, DWR is the only one supplying MLS gaskets for the Hundred Four. Regards, Dave Russell BN2 shop at justbrits.com wrote: ><less ($100 or maybe it was $200, but definitely much less than $350) > > > >Me too, Greg!?!? > >Old Archives?? > >Ed From Awgertoo at aol.com Mon Nov 26 18:04:13 2007 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:04:13 EST Subject: [Healeys] OFF WITH HER HEAD!!! Message-ID: In a message dated 11/26/2007 7:58:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Rusd at sitestar.net writes: Not all steel head gaskets are the same. The DWR gasket is MLS. --------------------------------------- It is also reuseable (retorqueable). Best--Michael Oritt **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Nov 26 18:29:37 2007 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:29:37 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] OFF WITH HER HEAD!!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <474B7301.5030508@comcast.net> Are solid copper gaskets a good compromise? I used to have a link to a guy who would make custom gaskets to a pattern, and you could specify thickness to tweak compression. bs Awgertoo at aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 11/26/2007 7:58:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > Rusd at sitestar.net writes: > > Not all steel head gaskets are the same. The DWR gasket is MLS. > > > > --------------------------------------- > It is also reuseable (retorqueable). > > Best--Michael Oritt > > > > > -- *************************************************************** Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net '67 Austin-Healey 3000 '56 Austin-Healey 100M *************************************************************** From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Nov 26 18:31:40 2007 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:31:40 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] OFF WITH HER HEAD!!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <474B737C.4000903@comcast.net> Found the link: http://www.headgasket.com/ bs Awgertoo at aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 11/26/2007 7:58:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > Rusd at sitestar.net writes: > > Not all steel head gaskets are the same. The DWR gasket is MLS. > > > > --------------------------------------- > It is also reuseable (retorqueable). > > Best--Michael Oritt > > > > *************************************************************** Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net '67 Austin-Healey 3000 '56 Austin-Healey 100M *************************************************************** From Rusd at sitestar.net Mon Nov 26 19:39:55 2007 From: Rusd at sitestar.net (Dave Russell) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:39:55 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] OFF WITH HER HEAD!!! In-Reply-To: <474B7301.5030508@comcast.net> References: <474B7301.5030508@comcast.net> Message-ID: <474B837B.2090408@sitestar.net> Hi Bob, Not sure how good a compromise copper gaskets are. The whole idea behind MLS gaskets is that the head & block are free to move in relation to each other, as they expand & contract under temperature differences, without breaking or harming the seal. AND, they do move. The stock copper-asbestos-steel sandwich gaskets allow this relative movement but the asbestos center is weak & prone to permanent distortion. Solid copper does not allow the easy "self adjustment" that MLS & sandwich gaskets do. It also loses strength at elevated temperatures. I guess it's your choice. Regards, Dave Russell Bob Spidell wrote: > Are solid copper gaskets a good compromise? > > I used to have a link to a guy who would make custom gaskets to a > pattern, and you could specify thickness to tweak compression. > > > bs From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Mon Nov 26 20:20:22 2007 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:20:22 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] New article on my blog. Delete if not interested. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20071126191946.028634b0@pop.att.yahoo.com> I am glad you are OK and lived to tell the story. At 11:40 AM 11/20/2007 -0500, Awgertoo at aol.com wrote: In a message dated 11/20/2007 10:50:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, msalter at precisionsportscar.com writes: There will be an article coming up in The "Austin Healey Magazine" which covers the event in all its gory details --------------------------------------------------------------- And still another article written by me from the perspective of the Navigator's seat will be appearing in the February issue of "Healey Marque". Best--Michael Oritt From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Mon Nov 26 21:00:18 2007 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (James Shope) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:00:18 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] bn6 top Message-ID: <002801c830aa$05e7ccb0$5201a8c0@Jim> am figuring out how to install the top on the bn6. the old framework came with two different aluminum pieces that screw onto the wood. one has a curved llip that hooks around the windshield top piece and the other has a staight 90 bend that does not catch the toppiece but just fits down over it. which one is the correct piece to put back on the new wood? healeymanjim From csooch1 at aol.com Mon Nov 26 21:00:56 2007 From: csooch1 at aol.com (Chris Masucci) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:00:56 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] OFF WITH HER HEAD!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I don't believe that any nitrile coated MLS gasket is reuseable. The rubber bonds to the head and block surface once torqued, and will pull off if removed, and in some cases if just loosened. Do not retorque if you use a MLS gasket. It's a one time use piece, just like the torque to yield head bolts used on many engines today. Once you torque that gasket down, it's done. That's why when using ARP head studs that need to be torqued several times to reach yield strength, and smooth out the threads, you use an old gasket first. Cheers, Chris BJ8 -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+chris.masucci=alumni.rutgers.edu at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+chris.masucci=alumni.rutgers.edu at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Awgertoo at aol.com Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 7:04 PM To: Rusd at sitestar.net; shop at justbrits.com Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] OFF WITH HER HEAD!!! In a message dated 11/26/2007 7:58:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Rusd at sitestar.net writes: Not all steel head gaskets are the same. The DWR gasket is MLS. --------------------------------------- It is also reuseable (retorqueable). Best--Michael Oritt From Rusd at sitestar.net Mon Nov 26 22:54:58 2007 From: Rusd at sitestar.net (Dave Russell) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:54:58 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] OFF WITH HER HEAD!!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <474BB132.1080700@sitestar.net> Hi Chris, Note in the reference that I cited it says: --- "A thin coating (0.001- to 0.0015-inch) of nitrile rubber or Viton is used on the external surfaces as well as between the layers to provide maximum sealing." --- There are several versions of MLS gaskets. In this case, I believe the DWR gasket uses Viton, not nitrile, & is reusable as Michael said. I agree with the torquing procedure for ARP studs, except Viton coated MLS gaskets don't have the nitrile sticking problem. Regards, Dave Chris Masucci wrote: >I don't believe that any nitrile coated MLS gasket is reuseable. The rubber >bonds to the head and block surface once torqued, and will pull off if >removed, and in some cases if just loosened. Do not retorque if you use a >MLS gasket. It's a one time use piece, just like the torque to yield head >bolts used on many engines today. > >Once you torque that gasket down, it's done. That's why when using ARP head >studs that need to be torqued several times to reach yield strength, and >smooth out the threads, you use an old gasket first. > >Cheers, >Chris >BJ8 > > >-----Original Message----- > >Subject: Re: [Healeys] OFF WITH HER HEAD!!! > >In a message dated 11/26/2007 7:58:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >Rusd at sitestar.net writes: > >Not all steel head gaskets are the same. The DWR gasket is MLS. > >--------------------------------------- >It is also reuseable (retorqueable). > >Best--Michael Oritt From healey.nut at gmail.com Tue Nov 27 01:36:26 2007 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:36:26 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] Rare Find Message-ID: I like how this is labeled a "Rare Find" http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Austin-Healey-1960-Mk-I-BN7-Rare-Find_W0QQitemZ190177544938QQihZ009QQcategoryZ6023QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I particularly like the very rare BN7 bent-style dashboard, this must be the only healey in existence with one of those. Cheers, Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 From bluechipracing at snet.net Tue Nov 27 05:41:49 2007 From: bluechipracing at snet.net (bluechip) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:41:49 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] bn6 top References: <002801c830aa$05e7ccb0$5201a8c0@Jim> Message-ID: <002101c830f2$e1beb5d0$1f9bfea9@dell> Hi James: The one with the hook is for the BT7 four seat cars. The one with the 90 degree bend is for the 2 seater BN6 and BN7. Jim Smith East Hampton, CT ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Shope" To: "healeys" Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 11:00 PM Subject: [Healeys] bn6 top > am figuring out how to install the top on the bn6. the old framework came > with two different aluminum pieces that screw onto the wood. one has a > curved > llip that hooks around the windshield top piece and the other has a > staight 90 > bend that does not catch the toppiece but just fits down over it. which > one > is the correct piece to put back on the new wood? healeymanjim > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From bighealey at charter.net Tue Nov 27 07:28:50 2007 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 06:28:50 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] New article on my blog. Delete if not interested. In-Reply-To: <20071114211454.E4CA71879E7@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <000001c83101$d7d64010$1002a8c0@TRACY> Michael, I syndicated your blog into the newsfeeds on http://healey.org Your on the front page of the December Austin Healey Magazine also ! Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! President AHCUSA www.healey.org VP/Events Director GGAHC www.goldengatehealeys.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+bighealey=charter.net at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+bighealey=charter.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Salter Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 1:14 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] New article on my blog. Delete if not interested. Report on AHX12s new rear suspension. http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael Michael Salter 100 (1953) AHX12 (1953) Bugeye (1961) Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From todd.s.taylor at lmco.com Tue Nov 27 08:08:39 2007 From: todd.s.taylor at lmco.com (Taylor, Todd S) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:08:39 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] How do I get the steering wheel off Message-ID: I'm in the process of dismantling my 100-6, I can't seem to get the steering wheel off. I got the nut off but the steering wheel is stuck on , Am I missing something here??? I thought about using a wheel puller but the inside edges of the wheel are cast, breaks real easy.. Any ideas how I can get the steering wheel off???? How as every one else done it?? Its never been off the car... From f_simpson at juno.com Tue Nov 27 08:21:33 2007 From: f_simpson at juno.com (f_simpson at juno.com) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:21:33 GMT Subject: [Healeys] VIN plate Message-ID: <20071127.072133.8570.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com> Does anyone know where I can get a new VIN plate from Moss, stamped/pressed/engraved with the original VIN number according to healey specs? Thanks! Frank Simpson '64 BJ8 Gold River, CA _____________________________________________________________ Click now and invest wisely with these mutual fund resources! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2111/fc/Ioyw6iigD9Bzmrm5QhGJpFWjv3oRPGUdO 1C3OULM5gUos0xcLDbbzG/ From msalter at precisionsportscar.com Tue Nov 27 08:25:24 2007 From: msalter at precisionsportscar.com (Michael Salter) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:25:24 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] How do I get the steering wheel off In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20071127152621.40258187A03@autox.team.net> Hi Todd, Put the nut back on but loosen it a couple of turns from tight. Position yourself in the seat, perhaps with a couple of blocks of wood under your feet for purchase, such that your upper legs are pushing up on the back side of steering wheel from below..i.e. pushing it off. Place a large soft brass or aluminium drift on the end of the shaft then using a large hammer hit the drift. You shouldn't have to hit it too hard to release the wheel. Hitting too hard can damage the steering gears or shaft so be a little careful. Leaving the nut on the shaft during this process tends to minimize the dental bills... Michael Salter 100 (1953) AHX12 (1953) Bugeye (1961) http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/ -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Taylor, Todd S Sent: November 27, 2007 10:09 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] How do I get the steering wheel off I'm in the process of dismantling my 100-6, I can't seem to get the steering wheel off. I got the nut off but the steering wheel is stuck on , Am I missing something here??? I thought about using a wheel puller but the inside edges of the wheel are cast, breaks real easy.. Any ideas how I can get the steering wheel off???? How as every one else done it?? Its never been off the car... From ahbn6 at optonline.net Tue Nov 27 09:39:50 2007 From: ahbn6 at optonline.net (John Sims) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:39:50 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] VIN plate In-Reply-To: <20071127.072133.8570.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com> References: <20071127.072133.8570.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <00fd01c83114$21879620$6500a8c0@simsoffice> Go to: http://www.clarkespares.com/carparts.html If I remember correctly, he requires a copy of your title. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ www.healey6.com -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+ahbn6=optonline.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of f_simpson at juno.com Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 10:22 AM To: Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] VIN plate Does anyone know where I can get a new VIN plate from Moss, stamped/pressed/engraved with the original VIN number according to healey specs? Thanks! Frank Simpson '64 BJ8 Gold River, CA From autofarm at cyg.net Tue Nov 27 09:43:12 2007 From: autofarm at cyg.net (Bob Yule) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:43:12 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] BN2 PROJECT Message-ID: <000801c83114$9a800fd0$6400a8c0@OFFICE> Listers, I have been asked by Mal Bruce, who advised that he had a BN2 project available, to tell you that his computer is down, and that he will be in touch with those who contacted him regarding this, as soon as he is able. Cheers.......Bob Check out our web site www.autofarm.net From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Tue Nov 27 09:59:58 2007 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:59:58 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] OFF WITH HER HEAD!!! In-Reply-To: <474B6BA9.1000900@sitestar.net> References: <00c501c82ff7$be147b20$6401a8c0@toshibauser> <06e401c8308c$7db55690$6501a8c0@actualshop> <474B6BA9.1000900@sitestar.net> Message-ID: <20136524-6186-4865-94E9-682AF15CA179@sbcglobal.net> The big question here is how many times do you want to lift that cylinder head off to fix the leak at the eng id plate. The use of the multi metal head gasket and the hardened head studs stops that leak. Also the gasket is re useable we have re used them several times. So you can either fix it right the first time and spend the $$$ or do it over and over until you spend the $$$ and do it right. I would rather have my car on the road with the wind in my hair than working on the same repair over and over again. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Nov 26, 2007, at 4:58 PM, Dave Russell wrote: > Hi Guys, > > Not all steel head gaskets are the same. The DWR gasket is MLS. > > Quote from another source: > --- "MLS head gaskets are made of several layers of embossed stainless > steel. A thin coating (0.001- to 0.0015-inch) of nitrile rubber or > Viton > is used on the external surfaces as well as between the layers to > provide maximum sealing. MLS gaskets are almost bullet-proof - but > also > more expensive than conventional soft-faced gaskets. Even so, if you > want to fix the problem once and for all, MLS is the way to go. They > require a smooth surface finish, 20 RA, very smooth. Head & block > flat > to less than .002." ---- > The layers are loosely held in alignment by four small external > rivets. > > Are the cheaper steel gaskets MLS or just embossed steel? To my > knowledge, DWR is the only one supplying MLS gaskets for the > Hundred Four. > > Regards, > Dave Russell > BN2 From sbyers at ec.rr.com Tue Nov 27 10:13:55 2007 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (sbyers at ec.rr.com) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 12:13:55 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] VIN plate Message-ID: <24190917.101881196183636042.JavaMail.root@cdptpa-web01-z01> At the time I bought my new blank VIN plate about 7 years ago, only AH Spares in England had them. Moss or other suppliers may have them now. I sent my old beat up plate to Todd Clarke along with the blank plate and he engraved it exactly as the original. Clarke required some proof that I owned the car with that VIN. The old VIN plate was good enough, but title or bill of sale would work if you don't have the old plate. Another reply has already provided Clarke's website address. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA ---- "f_simpson at juno.com" wrote: > Does anyone know where I can get a new VIN plate from Moss, > stamped/pressed/engraved with the original VIN number according to healey > specs? Thanks! > Frank Simpson > '64 BJ8 > Gold River, CA From glemon at neb.rr.com Tue Nov 27 11:41:24 2007 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (glemon at neb.rr.com) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 12:41:24 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] VIN plate Message-ID: <24846724.399811196188884808.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web07-z01> Years ago when I was redoing a TR4A a misplaced the VIN plate and ordered a new one from Moss or VB, don't remember which, took it down to a trophy shop (engraving) to have the correct number on it. At the time is struck me how easy it would be to "create" a car with a particular VIN if you were so inclined. I think it is good that Clarke asks for proof of car ownership, but I think you can get at least some of the ID plates from the usual sources and I am fairly certain they don't ask for any documentation. Greg Lemon 54 BN1 From jimf at frakes-eng.com Tue Nov 27 12:01:43 2007 From: jimf at frakes-eng.com (Frakes, Jim) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:01:43 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] How do I get the steering wheel off References: Message-ID: Todd, I just removed two by this method. Take the aluminum bracket that held the shaft to the car frame off, take out the rubber, put it on and snug up the bolts, making it surround the shaft at the base of the wheel. That is the strong part of the wheel. Now I used a two prong large puller with the three prongs putting pressure on the al bracket. (Yes, I know it is breakable too.) As I tightened, I tapped the puller prongs lightly and then tightened some more. With the tension on it, the light taps finally broke it free. I agree with another person, leave the nut on loose to keep from knocking my teeth out. Jim -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+jimf=frakes-eng.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+jimf=frakes-eng.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Taylor, Todd S Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 10:09 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] How do I get the steering wheel off I'm in the process of dismantling my 100-6, I can't seem to get the steering wheel off. I got the nut off but the steering wheel is stuck on , Am I missing something here??? I thought about using a wheel puller but the inside edges of the wheel are cast, breaks real easy.. Any ideas how I can get the steering wheel off???? How as every one else done it?? Its never been off the car... 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From sbyers at ec.rr.com Tue Nov 27 12:52:41 2007 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (sbyers at ec.rr.com) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:52:41 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] VIN plate Message-ID: <6616588.437851196193161655.JavaMail.root@cdptpa-web17-z01> I've seen a lot of replacement VIN plates with the plate itself like original, but the stamping so crudely done that it's laughable. It's always obvious that they are replacements, and it always makes me wonder if the number is correct. In most cases where I've been able to investigate that, it isn't. There is BJ8 in a museum in Sweden with a replacement VIN plate that is nicely and professionally done. However, it's not original, since it has a "-" after HBJ8L rather than the standard factory-applied "/". Also (I have photos of this car's firewall), it has the original body number plate from a car 8,035 chassis numbers higher than what's on the VIN plate - only 115 cars from the end of production. My recommendation would be to have any replacement plate done by a professional like Todd Clarke who knows what he is doing, otherwise it's pretty easy to tell the plate isn't original. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA ---- glemon at neb.rr.com wrote: > Years ago when I was redoing a TR4A a misplaced the VIN plate and ordered a new one from Moss or VB, don't remember which, took it down to a trophy shop (engraving) to have the correct number on it. > > At the time is struck me how easy it would be to "create" a car with a particular VIN if you were so inclined. I think it is good that Clarke asks for proof of car ownership, but I think you can get at least some of the ID plates from the usual sources and I am fairly certain they don't ask for any documentation. > > Greg Lemon > 54 BN1 From insptwo at msn.com Tue Nov 27 13:30:57 2007 From: insptwo at msn.com (insptwo at msn.com) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:30:57 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Rare Find In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: From: insptwo at msn.comTo: healey.nut at gmail.comSubject: RE: [Healeys] Rare FindDate: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:36:10 -0500 Why, with a small amount of work and a little elbow grease, it could be turned into a whole bunch of parts for the mechanically disabled! I have also never seen one with 2 rear ends!BillBJ7 > _______________________________________________ From ynotink at msn.com Tue Nov 27 18:11:33 2007 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 01:11:33 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] VIN plate In-Reply-To: <24190917.101881196183636042.JavaMail.root@cdptpa-web01-z01> Message-ID: Next question, how about the plastic plate that goes on the kick panel in the BN1? Bill Lawrence From richchrysler at quickclic.net Tue Nov 27 18:22:17 2007 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:22:17 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] VIN plate References: Message-ID: <023a01c8315d$22793ef0$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> I was working with a resin model manufacturer a couple of years ago but beyond casting a couple of masters from originals that had to then be blanked out and cleaned up before a production mould could be made, he didn't get any further. Ever try to push a rope up hill? This appears to be a good method to get what we need, because this material would take a machinists stamp very well. He claimed he could even cast them in an ivory colour instead of the pure white resin. When I ran a survey asking how may folks would be interested in these I only got responses from 18 people. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "WILLIAM B LAWRENCE" To: ; Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] VIN plate > Next question, how about the plastic plate that goes on the kick panel in > the BN1? > > Bill Lawrence > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From theswed at hotmail.com Tue Nov 27 19:27:43 2007 From: theswed at hotmail.com (Kenny J) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:27:43 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] VIN plate Message-ID: Hey Frank, FYI...California law does not allow you to remove the original manufacturer's VIN plate for any reason (10751 CVC). If you remove the VIN plate and/or any other identifying vehicle numbers, your vehicle can be impounded and/or forfeited to the state. If your original VIN plate is not legible or missing, the CHP will assign a number to your vehicle using a blue ID plate. Email me off the list if you have any further questions. Kenny '61 BT-7 > From: f_simpson at juno.com> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:21:33 +0000> To: Healeys at autox.team.net> Subject: [Healeys] VIN plate> > Does anyone know where I can get a new VIN plate from Moss,> stamped/pressed/engraved with the original VIN number according to healey> specs? Thanks!> Frank Simpson> '64 BJ8> Gold River, CA> > _____________________________________________________________> Click now and invest wisely with these mutual fund resources!> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2111/fc/Ioyw6iigD9Bzmrm5QhGJpFWjv3oRPGUdO> 1C3OULM5gUos0xcLDbbzG/> _______________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > Healeys at autox.team.net> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys _________________________________________________________________ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live.Download today it's FREE! http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_sharelife_112007 From glemon at neb.rr.com Tue Nov 27 19:28:55 2007 From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:28:55 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Farewell for Now Message-ID: <00c101c83166$6c79b580$6401a8c0@toshibauser> I am sad to report that I just completed (at least I got the money, the car is still here) the sale of my '54 100. Hard to send this note because it makes it more real. It was not a matter of me wanting to get rid of the car, but more a matter of time and resources not being unlimited and me wanting to try something different (so many cars so little time and money), and selling the 100 was just the best way to do it. I have to admit I almost backed out a couple times, they are really wonderful cars in many ways, the classic british roadster. Thanks so much to the list and all the help and cyber car buddies I have met and enjoyed, this list is truly an unique and excellent place to share enjoy entertain and learn, I suppose I will still lurk, but without the "blue terror" it won't be the same. Actually thinking about the list and not being part of the "Healey Brethren" is one of the things that almost made me back out. P.S. maybe blasphemy, but if anybody has a line on a Daimler SP250 or Alfa GTV (the 60s early 70s kind, not the later ones) that needs a little work but not a complete do over let me know, midwest USA is best but other parts of the country not out of the questions. Healey projects maybe considered as well, but I am thinking I want to try something different, there is that blasphemy again. Greg Lemon 54 BN1 From csooch1 at aol.com Tue Nov 27 19:58:30 2007 From: csooch1 at aol.com (Chris Masucci) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:58:30 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] OFF WITH HER HEAD!!! In-Reply-To: <474BB132.1080700@sitestar.net> Message-ID: Dave, Viton, Nitrile, whatever you want. MLS head gaskets are NOT meant to be reused, and none are designed to be. Your dice($), your roll. Cheers, Chris -----Original Message----- From: Dave Russell [mailto:Rusd at sitestar.net] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 11:55 PM To: chris.masucci at alumni.rutgers.edu Cc: Awgertoo at aol.com; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] OFF WITH HER HEAD!!! Hi Chris, Note in the reference that I cited it says: --- "A thin coating (0.001- to 0.0015-inch) of nitrile rubber or Viton is used on the external surfaces as well as between the layers to provide maximum sealing." --- There are several versions of MLS gaskets. In this case, I believe the DWR gasket uses Viton, not nitrile, & is reusable as Michael said. I agree with the torquing procedure for ARP studs, except Viton coated MLS gaskets don't have the nitrile sticking problem. Regards, Dave Chris Masucci wrote: >I don't believe that any nitrile coated MLS gasket is reuseable. The >rubber bonds to the head and block surface once torqued, and will pull >off if removed, and in some cases if just loosened. Do not retorque if >you use a MLS gasket. It's a one time use piece, just like the torque >to yield head bolts used on many engines today. > >Once you torque that gasket down, it's done. That's why when using ARP >head studs that need to be torqued several times to reach yield >strength, and smooth out the threads, you use an old gasket first. > >Cheers, >Chris >BJ8 > > >-----Original Message----- > >Subject: Re: [Healeys] OFF WITH HER HEAD!!! > >In a message dated 11/26/2007 7:58:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >Rusd at sitestar.net writes: > >Not all steel head gaskets are the same. The DWR gasket is MLS. > >--------------------------------------- >It is also reuseable (retorqueable). > >Best--Michael Oritt From johnbeckysawyer at yahoo.com Tue Nov 27 20:11:37 2007 From: johnbeckysawyer at yahoo.com (Rebecca Sawyer) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:11:37 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] FW: BJ8 Brake servo problem Message-ID: <8E55971370744F2CA1DE414A39C02C1A@BeckyPC> From: John Sawyer [johnbeckysawyer at yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 7:49 PM To: 'healeys at autox.team.net' Subject: BJ8 Brake servo problem I have a 65 with a servo that is not original, I think it's Australian. Patton's Brake Replacements (PBR). Recently the engine runs rough when brakeing. At idle the engine idle speeds up slightly when brakes are applied. I think the problem is with the servo affecting the intake manifold. Any one have experience with this? Can the servo be rebuilt? From Awgertoo at aol.com Tue Nov 27 20:12:51 2007 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:12:51 EST Subject: [Healeys] OFF WITH HER HEAD!!! Message-ID: In a message dated 11/27/2007 9:59:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, csooch1 at aol.com writes: Viton, Nitrile, whatever you want. MLS head gaskets are NOT meant to be reused, and none are designed to be. ------------------------------------- Quoting from Denis Welch's catalogue page on the steel head gasket: "This gasket may also be used up to three times." Best--Michael Oritt **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) From Healey100M at gmail.com Tue Nov 27 20:31:20 2007 From: Healey100M at gmail.com (Randy Hicks) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:31:20 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] OFF WITH HER HEAD!!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <19D7474C-56C9-4713-A694-E4E5832609EE@gmail.com> Chris, from the Denis Welch web site COMPETITION HEAD GASKET [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of d1c829838444988d7b55e05ed0b7db0f.jpg] The very latest design using modern manufacturing techniques means this three layer all steel gasket is the best on the market. It has been made solely for us on dedicated tooling at considerable expense. Whether used on high compression race engines or simply to stop the constant water leaks down the distributor side of a standard engine, this is more than adequate to do the job. Being the same thickness as original it does not change the compression ratio and suiting bores up to 3.562" (90.5mm) diameter. This gasket may also be used up to three times. Randy Randy Hicks '56 100M '60 BN7 MkI '62 BN7 MkII '65 BJ8 '53 MGTD Healey100M at gmail.com On Nov 27, 2007, at 9:58 PM, Chris Masucci wrote: > Dave, > > Viton, Nitrile, whatever you want. MLS head gaskets are NOT meant > to be > reused, and none are designed to be. > > Your dice($), your roll. > > Cheers, > Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave Russell [mailto:Rusd at sitestar.net] > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 11:55 PM > To: chris.masucci at alumni.rutgers.edu > Cc: Awgertoo at aol.com; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] OFF WITH HER HEAD!!! > > Hi Chris, > > Note in the reference that I cited it says: > > --- "A thin coating (0.001- to 0.0015-inch) of nitrile rubber or > Viton is > used on the external surfaces as well as between the layers to provide > maximum sealing." --- > > There are several versions of MLS gaskets. In this case, I believe > the DWR > gasket uses Viton, not nitrile, & is reusable as Michael said. > > I agree with the torquing procedure for ARP studs, except Viton > coated MLS > gaskets don't have the nitrile sticking problem. > > Regards, > Dave > > Chris Masucci wrote: > >> I don't believe that any nitrile coated MLS gasket is reuseable. The >> rubber bonds to the head and block surface once torqued, and will >> pull >> off if removed, and in some cases if just loosened. Do not >> retorque if >> you use a MLS gasket. It's a one time use piece, just like the >> torque >> to yield head bolts used on many engines today. >> >> Once you torque that gasket down, it's done. That's why when using >> ARP >> head studs that need to be torqued several times to reach yield >> strength, and smooth out the threads, you use an old gasket first. >> >> Cheers, >> Chris >> BJ8 >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] OFF WITH HER HEAD!!! >> >> In a message dated 11/26/2007 7:58:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >> Rusd at sitestar.net writes: >> >> Not all steel head gaskets are the same. The DWR gasket is MLS. >> >> --------------------------------------- >> It is also reuseable (retorqueable). >> >> Best--Michael Oritt > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From bspidell at comcast.net Tue Nov 27 20:35:28 2007 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:35:28 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] FW: BJ8 Brake servo problem In-Reply-To: <8E55971370744F2CA1DE414A39C02C1A@BeckyPC> References: <8E55971370744F2CA1DE414A39C02C1A@BeckyPC> Message-ID: <474CE200.2040007@comcast.net> John, I'm not familiar with the PBR per se, but AFAIK all servos--at least for Healeys--pull vacuum on both sides of the large piston in the vacuum cylinder during normal running. When you apply the brakes, a valve admits ambient air at atmospheric pressure onto the top of the piston, which pushes against the vacuum on the underside and applies pressure to the fluid piston in the servo's master cylinder, which applies pressure through the brake fluid to the slave cylinders. It sounds like there's a leak around the seal of the large air/vacuum piston, admitting air into the vacuum side and hence into the intake manifold (the source of the vacuum). This would explain both the rough running during braking and the slight RPM increase when brakes are applied (esp. if you're running somewhat rich like most Healeys need to). If the vacuum canister can be easily disassembled, then it probably can be rebuilt (if you can find a kit). If it's welded or riveted or otherwise sealed it's probably not meant to be rebuilt (or worth the trouble). bs Rebecca Sawyer wrote: > From: John Sawyer [johnbeckysawyer at yahoo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 7:49 PM > To: 'healeys at autox.team.net' > Subject: BJ8 Brake servo problem > > > > I have a 65 with a servo that is not original, I think it's Australian. > Patton's Brake Replacements (PBR). Recently the engine runs rough when > brakeing. At idle the engine idle speeds up slightly when brakes are > applied. I think the problem is with the servo affecting the intake > manifold. Any one have experience with this? > > Can the servo be rebuilt? > _______________________________________________ > > -- *************************************************************** Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net '67 Austin-Healey 3000 '56 Austin-Healey 100M *************************************************************** From msalter at precisionsportscar.com Tue Nov 27 20:42:24 2007 From: msalter at precisionsportscar.com (Michael Salter) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:42:24 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] FW: BJ8 Brake servo problem In-Reply-To: <8E55971370744F2CA1DE414A39C02C1A@BeckyPC> Message-ID: <20071128034325.582791879F2@autox.team.net> Hi John, There are usually only 2 models of PBR servos used on Healeys the VH44 and the VH40 I believe I may still have a kit for a VH44 which from memory uses an 8" diaphragm. I think the model number should be on the unit somewhere. They are very easy to rebuild and sometimes you can do so without even using a kit. Michael Salter 100 (1953) AHX12 (1953) Bugeye (1961) http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/ -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rebecca Sawyer Sent: November 27, 2007 10:12 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] FW: BJ8 Brake servo problem From: John Sawyer [johnbeckysawyer at yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 7:49 PM To: 'healeys at autox.team.net' Subject: BJ8 Brake servo problem I have a 65 with a servo that is not original, I think it's Australian. Patton's Brake Replacements (PBR). Recently the engine runs rough when brakeing. At idle the engine idle speeds up slightly when brakes are applied. I think the problem is with the servo affecting the intake manifold. Any one have experience with this? Can the servo be rebuilt? From shop at justbrits.com Tue Nov 27 20:49:13 2007 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:49:13 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] FW: BJ8 Brake servo problem References: <8E55971370744F2CA1DE414A39C02C1A@BeckyPC> <474CE200.2040007@comcast.net> Message-ID: <04e001c83171$a4ecffc0$6501a8c0@actualshop> Bob: Cheeseheads are gonna be MAD!!!! <> Pabst Blue Ribbon !!!! Anon From rudedoggg at earthlink.net Tue Nov 27 20:57:54 2007 From: rudedoggg at earthlink.net (John Rued) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:57:54 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Farewell for Now References: <00c101c83166$6c79b580$6401a8c0@toshibauser> Message-ID: <001101c83172$de6c2040$0aa2e404@RUDEDOG> I, for one, am ecstatic! No more BN1 competition at Flatwater's Fall show. Unless you sold her to a club member. Then I'll have to feign another four year re-re-restoration to to explain my competitive absence. JR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Lemon" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 8:28 PM Subject: [Healeys] Farewell for Now >I am sad to report that I just completed (at least I got the money, the car > is still here) the sale of my '54 100. Hard to send this note because it > makes it more real. From csooch1 at aol.com Tue Nov 27 20:59:11 2007 From: csooch1 at aol.com (Chris Masucci) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:59:11 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] OFF WITH HER HEAD!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Unfortunately I can't believe everything that I read, because it doesn't produce viable results. I have tried retorqing MLS gaskets on several types of engines, some nitrile, some viton (so they say), and once they are squished, they are done. You will not achieve the proper seal, even if you tried to replace head bolts on a head that has not been removed with a MLS gasket, one at a time. I have tried it, it does not work, you will get a compression leak somwhere eventually. You will end up buying a new gasket and starting over. Go ahead and try it. As I hinted, it's your money. Maybe you have the cape that I can't find. Cheers, Chris _____ From: Awgertoo at aol.com [mailto:Awgertoo at aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 9:13 PM To: chris.masucci at alumni.rutgers.edu; Rusd at sitestar.net Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] OFF WITH HER HEAD!!! In a message dated 11/27/2007 9:59:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, csooch1 at aol.com writes: Viton, Nitrile, whatever you want. MLS head gaskets are NOT meant to be reused, and none are designed to be. ------------------------------------- Quoting from Denis Welch's catalogue page on the steel head gasket: "This gasket may also be used up to three times." Best--Michael Oritt _____ Check out AOL Money & Finance's list of the hottest products and top money wasters of 2007. From Editorgary at aol.com Tue Nov 27 22:28:56 2007 From: Editorgary at aol.com (Editorgary at aol.com) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 00:28:56 EST Subject: [Healeys] Plastic BN1 VIN plates Message-ID: In a message dated 11/27/07 7:51:25 PM, healeys-request at autox.team.net writes: > I was working with a resin model manufacturer a couple of years ago but > beyond casting a couple of masters from originals that had to then be > blanked out and cleaned up before a production mould could be made, he > didn't get any further. Ever try to push a rope up hill? > This appears to be a good method to get what we need, because this material > would take a machinists stamp very well. He claimed he could even cast them > in an ivory colour instead of the pure white resin. > When I ran a survey asking how may folks would be interested in these I only > got responses from 18 people. > > Rich Chrysler > Having had a badge maker make plastic badges several times, where the name was put on by engraving through the top white layer of plastic to expose the lower black layer of plastic, I think if you had a good model to work from, a good badge maker (usually found at a diversified trophy company) could probably produce a pretty fair replica of the original plate -- they're not all that complicated and the lettering font is pretty standard. It would certainly be better than having no plate at all in that location. Just a thought, Gary Anderson ************************************** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) From jwbn6 at verizon.net Wed Nov 28 05:25:32 2007 From: jwbn6 at verizon.net (jerry wall) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:25:32 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Healeys] Farewell for Now Message-ID: <20541826.11602611196252732723.JavaMail.root@vms124.mailsrvcs.net> =greg, .....an sp250 -- isn't this at the opposite end of the aesthetic spectrum ?????? cheers, jerry==================== From: Greg Lemon Date: 2007/11/27 Tue PM 08:28:55 CST To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Farewell for Now I am sad to report that I just completed (at least I got the money, the car is still here) the sale of my '54 100. Hard to send this note because it makes it more real. It was not a matter of me wanting to get rid of the car, but more a matter of time and resources not being unlimited and me wanting to try something different (so many cars so little time and money), and selling the 100 was just the best way to do it. I have to admit I almost backed out a couple times, they are really wonderful cars in many ways, the classic british roadster. Thanks so much to the list and all the help and cyber car buddies I have met and enjoyed, this list is truly an unique and excellent place to share enjoy entertain and learn, I suppose I will still lurk, but without the "blue terror" it won't be the same. Actually thinking about the list and not being part of the "Healey Brethren" is one of the things that almost made me back out. P.S. maybe blasphemy, but if anybody has a line on a Daimler SP250 or Alfa GTV (the 60s early 70s kind, not the later ones) that needs a little work but not a complete do over let me know, midwest USA is best but other parts of the country not out of the questions. Healey projects maybe considered as well, but I am thinking I want to try something different, there is that blasphemy again. Greg Lemon 54 BN1 _______________________________________________ S JERRY WALL BN6 ROWLETT, TX From bluechipracing at snet.net Wed Nov 28 05:53:15 2007 From: bluechipracing at snet.net (bluechip) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 07:53:15 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] OFF WITH HER HEAD!!! References: Message-ID: <006101c831bd$a4ef3820$1f9bfea9@dell> I don't have a dog in this hunt, but after reading the opposing viewpoints regarding MLS head gaskets, I did a google search on the subject. The following hits seem to shed light on the subject. If I were having head gasket problems, I would probably try an MLS gasket, but since I'm not, I'll stick with the old standard for now. http://www.4secondsflat.com/Cometic-MLS_Gaskets.html http://www.dupontelastomers.com/Applications/Automotive/head.asp Jim Smith East Hampton, CT From dcongleton at embarqmail.com Wed Nov 28 06:06:53 2007 From: dcongleton at embarqmail.com (Dallas Congleton) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 08:06:53 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] OFF WITH HER HEAD!!! References: Message-ID: <003c01c831bf$8cafb8a0$0201a8c0@your4dacd0ea75> I don't have a dog in this fight but here is a link to a good article I found when researching during a recent engine rebuild. There is more than gasket choice required for a long term head/block seal. The article addresses the applications of different types of gaskets including the MLS.. http://www.babcox.com/editorial/us/us80222.htm It does seem strange that someone in the business of selling a gasket would recommend re-using it three times. . I wonder how they derived the number 3 ? Maybe to help justify the initial high cost? Dallas Congleton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Masucci" To: ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] OFF WITH HER HEAD!!! > Unfortunately I can't believe everything that I read, because it doesn't > produce viable results. I have tried retorqing MLS gaskets on several > types > of engines, some nitrile, some viton (so they say), and once they are > squished, they are done. You will not achieve the proper seal, even if > you > tried to replace head bolts on a head that has not been removed with a MLS > gasket, one at a time. I have tried it, it does not work, you will get a > compression leak somwhere eventually. You will end up buying a new gasket > and starting over. > > Go ahead and try it. As I hinted, it's your money. Maybe you have the > cape > that I can't find. > > Cheers, > Chris > > _____ > > From: Awgertoo at aol.com [mailto:Awgertoo at aol.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 9:13 PM > To: chris.masucci at alumni.rutgers.edu; Rusd at sitestar.net > Cc: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] OFF WITH HER HEAD!!! > > > In a message dated 11/27/2007 9:59:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > csooch1 at aol.com writes: > > Viton, Nitrile, whatever you want. MLS head gaskets are NOT meant to be > reused, and none are designed to be. > > > > ------------------------------------- > Quoting from Denis Welch's catalogue page on the steel head gasket: > > "This gasket may also be used up to three times." > > Best--Michael Oritt From douglas.barker at videotron.ca Wed Nov 28 06:43:58 2007 From: douglas.barker at videotron.ca (Douglas Barker) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 08:43:58 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] FW: BJ8 Brake servo problem References: <8E55971370744F2CA1DE414A39C02C1A@BeckyPC> Message-ID: <049a01c831c4$bb4dac80$6501a8c0@NewDoug> Hello Rebecca I have a 66 and had the same problem several years ago and had it fixed by my specialty mechanic hear in Montreal-his name is Len at Brittanicar - phone number in Montreal is 1-514-637-6661 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rebecca Sawyer" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 10:11 PM Subject: [Healeys] FW: BJ8 Brake servo problem > From: John Sawyer [johnbeckysawyer at yahoo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 7:49 PM > To: 'healeys at autox.team.net' > Subject: BJ8 Brake servo problem > > > > I have a 65 with a servo that is not original, I think it's Australian. > Patton's Brake Replacements (PBR). Recently the engine runs rough when > brakeing. At idle the engine idle speeds up slightly when brakes are > applied. I think the problem is with the servo affecting the intake > manifold. Any one have experience with this? > > Can the servo be rebuilt? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.8/1154 - Release Date: > 27/11/2007 11:40 AM From scvc70 at epix.net Wed Nov 28 08:34:40 2007 From: scvc70 at epix.net (Carr&Edwards) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:34:40 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] VIN plate References: Message-ID: <006701c831d4$364839f0$d51a4ad1@S0026273562> Ok -- so what exactly is this "plate ... on the kick panel"? My BN1 had a home-made interior when I got it, and there are no others around here that I can go look at. Sarah Carr BN1 in PA ----- Original Message ----- From: "WILLIAM B LAWRENCE" To: ; Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] VIN plate > Next question, how about the plastic plate that goes on the kick panel in > the BN1? > > Bill Lawrence > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From jackson_krall at yahoo.com Wed Nov 28 10:12:20 2007 From: jackson_krall at yahoo.com (Jackson Krall) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 09:12:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Farewell for Now In-Reply-To: <20541826.11602611196252732723.JavaMail.root@vms124.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <534155.70876.qm@web52405.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Greg, There is or was a man in Ipswich, MA. that does Britcar repair and is an SP250 enthusiest and had the largest and only collection of SP250's I've ever seen. I believe the name of his shop was New England Auto Restorations. Maybe someone else on the list can identify him, as it's been over 10 yrs since I visited his shop. Best JK --- jerry wall wrote: > =greg, > .....an sp250 -- isn't this at the opposite end of > the aesthetic spectrum ?????? > cheers, > jerry==================== > From: Greg Lemon > Date: 2007/11/27 Tue PM 08:28:55 CST > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] Farewell for Now > > I am sad to report that I just completed (at least I > got the money, the car > is still here) the sale of my '54 100. Hard to send > this note because it > makes it more real. > > It was not a matter of me wanting to get rid of the > car, but more a matter > of time and resources not being unlimited and me > wanting to try something > different (so many cars so little time and money), > and selling the 100 was > just the best way to do it. > > I have to admit I almost backed out a couple times, > they are really > wonderful cars in many ways, the classic british > roadster. > > Thanks so much to the list and all the help and > cyber car buddies I have met > and enjoyed, this list is truly an unique and > excellent place to share enjoy > entertain and learn, I suppose I will still lurk, > but without the "blue > terror" it won't be the same. Actually thinking > about the list and not > being part of the "Healey Brethren" is one of the > things that almost made me > back out. > > P.S. maybe blasphemy, but if anybody has a line on a > Daimler SP250 or Alfa > GTV (the 60s early 70s kind, not the later ones) > that needs a little work > but not a complete do over let me know, midwest USA > is best but other parts > of the country not out of the questions. Healey > projects maybe considered > as well, but I am thinking I want to try something > different, there is that > blasphemy again. > > Greg Lemon > 54 BN1 > _______________________________________________ > S > > JERRY WALL BN6 > ROWLETT, TX > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ From dan at warner-associates.com Wed Nov 28 10:35:04 2007 From: dan at warner-associates.com (Dan Stromquist) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 11:35:04 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] FW: BJ8 Brake servo problem In-Reply-To: <8E55971370744F2CA1DE414A39C02C1A@BeckyPC> Message-ID: <001501c831e5$02ee1b90$3500000a@warner.com> John: I had mine rebuilt by John Stuart Brake Co out of Stoney Creek, Ontario. Have yet to try it but the job looks good and they guaranteed it. Rich C recommended them so I was comfortable. Their web site is www.johnstuartpowerbrake.com and tele # 905-662-7274. Make sure you tell them whether you want to go concours or not on the finish work. Dan -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+dan=warner-associates.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+dan=warner-associates.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rebecca Sawyer Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 9:12 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] FW: BJ8 Brake servo problem From: John Sawyer [johnbeckysawyer at yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 7:49 PM To: 'healeys at autox.team.net' Subject: BJ8 Brake servo problem I have a 65 with a servo that is not original, I think it's Australian. Patton's Brake Replacements (PBR). Recently the engine runs rough when brakeing. At idle the engine idle speeds up slightly when brakes are applied. I think the problem is with the servo affecting the intake manifold. Any one have experience with this? Can the servo be rebuilt? Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From mgtd51 at comcast.net Wed Nov 28 10:50:46 2007 From: mgtd51 at comcast.net (Larry Swift) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 12:50:46 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Farewell for Now In-Reply-To: <534155.70876.qm@web52405.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <534155.70876.qm@web52405.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <474DAA76.10306@comcast.net> I believe this may be Steve Monell - Foreign Auto Enterprises, Gloucester, MA (about 15 miles from Ipswich) - 978 283 0120. Jackson Krall wrote: > Greg, There is or was a man in Ipswich, MA. that does > Britcar repair and is an SP250 enthusiest and had the > largest and only collection of SP250's I've ever seen. > I believe the name of his shop was New England Auto > Restorations. Maybe someone else on the list can > identify him, as it's been over 10 yrs since I visited > his shop. > Best > JK > --- jerry wall wrote: > > >> =greg, >> .....an sp250 -- isn't this at the opposite end of >> the aesthetic spectrum ?????? >> cheers, >> jerry==================== >> From: Greg Lemon >> Date: 2007/11/27 Tue PM 08:28:55 CST >> To: healeys at autox.team.net >> Subject: [Healeys] Farewell for Now >> >> I am sad to report that I just completed (at least I >> got the money, the car >> is still here) the sale of my '54 100. Hard to send >> this note because it >> makes it more real. >> >> It was not a matter of me wanting to get rid of the >> car, but more a matter >> of time and resources not being unlimited and me >> wanting to try something >> different (so many cars so little time and money), >> and selling the 100 was >> just the best way to do it. >> >> I have to admit I almost backed out a couple times, >> they are really >> wonderful cars in many ways, the classic british >> roadster. >> >> Thanks so much to the list and all the help and >> cyber car buddies I have met >> and enjoyed, this list is truly an unique and >> excellent place to share enjoy >> entertain and learn, I suppose I will still lurk, >> but without the "blue >> terror" it won't be the same. Actually thinking >> about the list and not >> being part of the "Healey Brethren" is one of the >> things that almost made me >> back out. >> >> P.S. maybe blasphemy, but if anybody has a line on a >> Daimler SP250 or Alfa >> GTV (the 60s early 70s kind, not the later ones) >> that needs a little work >> but not a complete do over let me know, midwest USA >> is best but other parts >> of the country not out of the questions. Healey >> projects maybe considered >> as well, but I am thinking I want to try something >> different, there is that >> blasphemy again. >> >> Greg Lemon >> 54 BN1 >> _______________________________________________ >> S >> >> JERRY WALL BN6 >> ROWLETT, TX >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you > with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From austinbj8 at yahoo.com Wed Nov 28 11:36:41 2007 From: austinbj8 at yahoo.com (john gillespie) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:36:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] Car for sale Message-ID: <152753.29026.qm@web32115.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello fellow listers, the time has come to sell my car and 25 years of acquired parts. It was one of the factory original Golden Beige Metallic cars, however it is currently painted blue/white. Just about every thing has been replaced in the car and it has a new Heritage Interior. A partial list of the parts include: spare engine,two top shift trans, spare carbs, rebuilt starter and generator and complete rear end. Plus many more parts to extensive to list. Car and parts as a complete package for $42,000.00, I'll still take American money and not insist in being paid in Euros. John Gillespie Ormond Beach, Fl. (386) 676-3126 --------------------------------- Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. From edwjkeuer at comcast.net Wed Nov 28 12:28:26 2007 From: edwjkeuer at comcast.net (Edward Keuer) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 13:28:26 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Mechanic/Hard Starting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello All, Here in Chicago temps have been in the 30's and 40's and my "new old" BJ8 won't start either, without 10 minutes of cajoling and repeated trials. Often the last thing I hear is a high pitched "whine" coming from the engine bay - something I've never heard before. Once it finally does start get past about 120 degrees, it runs beautifully. I tried replacing the choke springs but that did not help. I've wondered whether or not I need to provide some heat to the engine during the winter to avoid this problem. I'm sure that all the coughing and sputtering, and detonation, can't be too good for things over the next 4-5 months. If anyone has any ideas or experience, I appreciate your help very much. Edw. J. Keuer '66 BJ8 On Nov 27, 2007, at 8:29 AM, healeys-request at autox.team.net wrote: > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 12:03:30 -0800 > From: Kenny J > Subject: [Healeys] Mechanic/Hard Starting > To: Healeys Healeys > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Anyone in the SF Bay Area that can recommend a mechanic (Pleasanton/ > Livermore > Area)? > > I believe I am having problems with my choke. When the weather > changed > (dipping into the 40's), my car became very difficult to start. > Once started, > it runs awesome. From looking at the archives, sounds like I have a > choke > problem. Before I moved, the car would start up immediately (hot or > cold). > Must be the Bay Area air. Thanks. > > Kenny > 61 BT-7 From sbyers at ec.rr.com Wed Nov 28 12:56:21 2007 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (sbyers at ec.rr.com) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 14:56:21 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Mechanic/Hard Starting Message-ID: <19187317.204271196279781183.JavaMail.root@cdptpa-web23-z01> Hi, Edward - Even here in the south where the temps aren't too severe in the winter, my BJ8 is much more difficult to start. I've found it helpful to turn on the key and allow the fuel pump to fill the float bowls, then give each carb air filter a 2 or 3 second squirt of starting fluid from an aerosol can (you can get it at the usual auto parts stores). With the choke full out, the engine usually starts then in only a turn or two. The high-pitched whine is probably the starter bendix kicking out. That doesn't happen on my BJ8 too often, but it does on my MG Midget. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA ---- Edward Keuer wrote: > Hello All, > > Here in Chicago temps have been in the 30's and 40's and my "new old" > BJ8 won't start either, without 10 minutes of cajoling and repeated > trials. Often the last thing I hear is a high pitched "whine" coming > from the engine bay - something I've never heard before. Once it > finally does start get past about 120 degrees, it runs beautifully. I > tried replacing the choke springs but that did not help. > > I've wondered whether or not I need to provide some heat to the engine > during the winter to avoid this problem. I'm sure that all the > coughing and sputtering, and detonation, can't be too good for things > over the next 4-5 months. > > If anyone has any ideas or experience, I appreciate your help very much. > > Edw. J. Keuer > '66 BJ8 From dwhite4949 at wowway.com Wed Nov 28 16:40:33 2007 From: dwhite4949 at wowway.com (Daniel and Diane White) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:40:33 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Mechanic/Hard Starting In-Reply-To: <19187317.204271196279781183.JavaMail.root@cdptpa-web23-z01> References: <19187317.204271196279781183.JavaMail.root@cdptpa-web23-z01> Message-ID: <474DFC71.3070707@wowway.com> I started up the tri-carb today with the temp right around 32 degrees F and had no problem. I think if the choke assemblies are functioning properly, she should fire up without problem. Dan White (Michigan) '62 BN7 Mk II From healey.nut at gmail.com Wed Nov 28 17:07:10 2007 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:07:10 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] VIN plate In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Kenny - If you think a Cal DMV lackey can tell the difference between what's original and what's not on a 40 year old healey, I've got some land to sell you under the Golden Gate Bridge! Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 On Nov 28, 2007 10:27 AM, Kenny J wrote: > Hey Frank, > > FYI...California law does not allow you to remove the original > manufacturer's > VIN plate for any reason (10751 CVC). If you remove the VIN plate and/or > any > other identifying vehicle numbers, your vehicle can be impounded and/or > forfeited to the state. If your original VIN plate is not legible or > missing, > the CHP will assign a number to your vehicle using a blue ID plate. > Email me > off the list if you have any further questions. > > Kenny > '61 BT-7 > > > From: f_simpson at juno.com> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:21:33 +0000> To: > Healeys at autox.team.net> Subject: [Healeys] VIN plate> > Does anyone know > where > I can get a new VIN plate from Moss,> stamped/pressed/engraved with the > original VIN number according to healey> specs? Thanks!> Frank Simpson> > '64 > BJ8> Gold River, CA> > From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Wed Nov 28 17:22:09 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:22:09 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] VIN plate References: Message-ID: <00c701c8321d$e2269980$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> And I have a great historic Bridge with ine end in Brooklyn, Alan!!! We will be RICH!!! Ed From bspidell at comcast.net Wed Nov 28 17:36:40 2007 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:36:40 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] FW: BJ8 Brake servo problem In-Reply-To: <001501c831e5$02ee1b90$3500000a@warner.com> References: <001501c831e5$02ee1b90$3500000a@warner.com> Message-ID: <474E0998.8070802@comcast.net> re: "Make sure you tell them whether you want to go concours or not on the finish work. " Not to be TOO snarky, but will it matter with an aftermarket part? bs Dan Stromquist wrote: > John: > I had mine rebuilt by John Stuart Brake Co out of Stoney Creek, Ontario. > Have yet to try it but the job looks good and they guaranteed it. Rich C > recommended them so I was comfortable. Their web site is > www.johnstuartpowerbrake.com and tele # 905-662-7274. Make sure you tell > them whether you want to go concours or not on the finish work. > Dan > > > -----Original Message----- > > I have a 65 with a servo that is not original, I think it's Australian. > Patton's Brake Replacements (PBR). Recently the engine runs rough when > brakeing. At idle the engine idle speeds up slightly when brakes are > applied. I think the problem is with the servo affecting the intake > manifold. Any one have experience with this? > > Can the servo be rebuilt? > > -- *************************************************************** Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net '67 Austin-Healey 3000 '56 Austin-Healey 100M *************************************************************** From bspidell at comcast.net Wed Nov 28 17:43:20 2007 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:43:20 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Mechanic/Hard Starting In-Reply-To: <19187317.204271196279781183.JavaMail.root@cdptpa-web23-z01> References: <19187317.204271196279781183.JavaMail.root@cdptpa-web23-z01> Message-ID: <474E0B28.2080108@comcast.net> I heard (or read) somewhere that's it's a good idea to press the accelerator pedal all the way to the floor before pulling the choke out. It's easier on the chokes and cables, plus you might get an extra silly millimeter on the choke pull, which might help. bs sbyers at ec.rr.com wrote: > Hi, Edward - > Even here in the south where the temps aren't too severe in the winter, my BJ8 is much more difficult to start. I've found it helpful to turn on the key and allow the fuel pump to fill the float bowls, then give each carb air filter a 2 or 3 second squirt of starting fluid from an aerosol can (you can get it at the usual auto parts stores). With the choke full out, the engine usually starts then in only a turn or two. > The high-pitched whine is probably the starter bendix kicking out. That doesn't happen on my BJ8 too often, but it does on my MG Midget. > > Steve Byers > HBJ8L/36666 > BJ8 Registry > Havelock, NC USA > > -- *************************************************************** Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net '67 Austin-Healey 3000 '56 Austin-Healey 100M *************************************************************** From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Wed Nov 28 18:17:48 2007 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (James Shope) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:17:48 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] hard starting Message-ID: <004601c83225$a7d1c360$5201a8c0@Jim> from what i have seen when messing with my carbs, every time the choke cable is pulled out, some fuel is shot up from the jets. do it more than one time and more fuel will be shot into the manifold, helping a cold start, (MAYBE). healeymanjim From ynotink at msn.com Wed Nov 28 18:47:34 2007 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:47:34 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Plastic BN1 VIN plates In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Unless you are in California evidently. Bill Lawrence >Having had a badge maker make plastic badges several times, where the name >was put on by engraving through the top white layer of plastic to expose >the >lower black layer of plastic, I think if you had a good model to work from, >a >good badge maker (usually found at a diversified trophy company) could >probably >produce a pretty fair replica of the original plate -- they're not all that >complicated and the lettering font is pretty standard. It would certainly >be >better than having no plate at all in that location. >Just a thought, >Gary Anderson > > >************************************** >Check out AOL's list of >2007's hottest products. > >(http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >Healeys at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From richchrysler at quickclic.net Wed Nov 28 19:03:42 2007 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 21:03:42 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] FW: BJ8 Brake servo problem References: <001501c831e5$02ee1b90$3500000a@warner.com> <474E0998.8070802@comcast.net> Message-ID: <032d01c8322c$14c231c0$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> Gentlemen, That's the whole point. John Stuart Power Brake rebuilds and guarantees the original Girling servos. We're not talking about aftermarket units. Rich Chrysler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Spidell" To: "Dan Stromquist" Cc: "Healey List Emails" Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: BJ8 Brake servo problem > re: > "Make sure you tell them whether you want to go concours or not on the > finish work. " > > > Not to be TOO snarky, but will it matter with an aftermarket part? > > > bs > > > Dan Stromquist wrote: >> John: >> I had mine rebuilt by John Stuart Brake Co out of Stoney Creek, Ontario. >> Have yet to try it but the job looks good and they guaranteed it. Rich C >> recommended them so I was comfortable. Their web site is >> www.johnstuartpowerbrake.com and tele # 905-662-7274. Make sure you tell >> them whether you want to go concours or not on the finish work. >> Dan >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> I have a 65 with a servo that is not original, I think it's Australian. >> Patton's Brake Replacements (PBR). Recently the engine runs rough when >> brakeing. At idle the engine idle speeds up slightly when brakes are >> applied. I think the problem is with the servo affecting the intake >> manifold. Any one have experience with this? >> >> Can the servo be rebuilt? >> >> > > > -- > *************************************************************** > Bob Spidell San Jose, CA bspidell at comcast.net > '67 Austin-Healey 3000 '56 Austin-Healey 100M > *************************************************************** > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From ynotink at msn.com Wed Nov 28 19:20:54 2007 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 02:20:54 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] VIN plate In-Reply-To: <006701c831d4$364839f0$d51a4ad1@S0026273562> Message-ID: Sarah, The full VIN on the BN1s, at least the early ones, was located on a plastic plate about the size of a business card that was screwed onto the kick panel (on top of the trim) on the interior of the car. Since the interior trim of these cars was always susceptible to weather damage and thus to being replaced with everything from concours quality replacements to lime green shag carpet, the true VIN plate is pretty much sure to be missing from any non-original car. Fortunately there was a back-up plate on the chassis that shows the numbers only. 14XXXX as opposed to BN1-L/14XXXX. This is explained and a drawing of the plate is shown in Roger Moment and Gary Anderson's book. Bill Lawrence BN1 # 554 >From: "Carr&Edwards" >To: >Subject: Re: [Healeys] VIN plate >Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:34:40 -0500 > >Ok -- so what exactly is this "plate ... on the kick panel"? My BN1 had a >home-made interior when I got it, and there are no others around here that >I >can go look at. > >Sarah Carr >BN1 in PA From theswed at hotmail.com Wed Nov 28 19:26:25 2007 From: theswed at hotmail.com (Kenny J) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:26:25 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] VIN plate Message-ID: Alan, The DMV doesn't do the VIN verifications, they are referred to the CHP. Since I am one of the folks that do the VIN verifications for the CHP and has trained many of the other NorCal officers, I have seen what happens behind the scenes (ask David Nock). Most of us are trying to restore our cars for many reasons and are not out there to defraud. However, I hate to see people make the mistake of even taking the VIN plate off for any reason (i.e. to paint the chassis). The mere evidence of a VIN plate screw or rivet being loosened and/or removed can get your car impounded. Luckily for us Healey owners, a Healey VIN plate is installed using screws. The plate can be removed/replaced on the car fairly easily without detection. However, when I see a new VIN plate on any classic car, it gets checked and rechecked. Most VIN officers have a reference book of VINs that have been used by nearly every manufacturer throughout the years. Also, many manufacturers (even back in the day) had several unique identifiers that cannot be reproduced exactly as original. As classic car values continue to climb rapidly, many people are out there building counterfeit cars. From Model T's to Shelbys, we have seen massive amounts of antique cars in the last few years. We are coming across many cars that are purchased by an innocent victim that have been tampered with. They can lose their car and their money. I can't speak for other states, but CA takes this issue extremely seriously. Kenny 61 BT-7 The way the Bay Area papers are talking about the next (100 yr) big one, I might be in the market for the land under the GGate. it should be a nice beachfront property soon :-) _________________________________________________________________ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live.Download today it's FREE! http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_sharelife_112007 From ynotink at msn.com Wed Nov 28 19:51:25 2007 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 02:51:25 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Mechanic/Hard Starting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Kenny, You didn't say where you moved from. Could it be that you moved from a higher altitude to sea level and need to enrich your mixture? (Bay area air?...exactly!) In cold weather the engine should require enrichment to start and that need will be more critical if the mixture is on the lean side. Also check that the jet tubes are pulling fully down when you pull the choke out. Maybe the cables or linkage are too slack or binding. Good luck. Bill Lawrence From RonFineEsq at earthlink.net Wed Nov 28 19:53:36 2007 From: RonFineEsq at earthlink.net (Ron Fine) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:53:36 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] VIN plate References: Message-ID: <004c01c83233$0a772340$6501a8c0@XPS400> If you don't mind telling us, what exactly are you checking and rechecking when you see a new VIN plate on a classic car?? There must be situations where a VIN plate is damaged or destroyed and needs replacement. What does the CHP do in that situation? RAF ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenny J" To: "Alan Seigrist" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] VIN plate > However, when I see a new VIN plate on any classic > car, it gets checked and rechecked. From stevemickelson at sbcglobal.net Wed Nov 28 20:04:20 2007 From: stevemickelson at sbcglobal.net (Steven Mickelson) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:04:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Healeys] VIN plate Message-ID: <650190.71935.qm@web82512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Sarah, I've attached a scan of my plate. It is a ".jpg" file (like a photo). It will be stripped from the list copy. Anyone else on the list who wants/needs a copy of the scan, just email me. Stevemickelson at sbcglobal.net Please just use "scan" as the subject and no message required. Steve BN1L-156610 ----- Original Message ---- From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE Sarah, The full VIN on the BN1s, at least the early ones, ... ...explained and a drawing of the plate is shown in Roger Moment and Gary Anderson's book. Bill Lawrence BN1 # 554 >From: "Carr&Edwards" >To: >Subject: Re: [Healeys] VIN plate >Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:34:40 -0500 > >Ok -- so what exactly is this "plate ... ... >Sarah Carr >BN1 in PA [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg which had a name of =?utf-8?q?VIN=20Plate.jpg?=] From rwil at sbcglobal.net Wed Nov 28 22:52:00 2007 From: rwil at sbcglobal.net (rwil at sbcglobal.net) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 05:52:00 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] VIN plate Message-ID: <1493668761-1196315592-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1035451807-@bxe119.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Not every inspector in CA is as focussed as Kenny. We had the local sheriff complete the form for us. I had to show him where the I.D. was. Everything was on the up and up, the numbers matched a ten year old white slip (CA discards files long before ten years) and the whole thing took about three minutes. -Roland BN1 #724 Ron wrote: If you don't mind telling us, what exactly are you checking and rechecking when you see a new VIN plate on a classic car?? Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From BJ8Healey at msn.com Thu Nov 29 07:18:31 2007 From: BJ8Healey at msn.com (James Sailer) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:18:31 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Subject: Re: Mechanic/Hard Starting Message-ID: I had similar cold/hard starting problems with my BJ8 here in Idaho. As others have said investigate the chokes and adjust them. I found mine were not opening correctly. It may be helpful to have a second person operating the choke wile you review the operation and adjust. Last night I had to start my BJ8 and move it to get into the shop attic and she started within 2 seconds ... it was 16 degrees ... Jim Sailer From scvc70 at epix.net Thu Nov 29 07:53:43 2007 From: scvc70 at epix.net (Carr&Edwards) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:53:43 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] VIN plate References: Message-ID: <00e501c83297$a74beac0$9e3a4ad1@S0026273562> My '54 BN1 (BN1L221626) has the vehicle ID plate -- with car and engine # -- in the engine compartment, at the top of the firewall on the passenger side, next to the body # plate. Sarah Carr BN1 in PA ----- Original Message ----- From: "WILLIAM B LAWRENCE" To: ; Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 9:20 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] VIN plate > Sarah, > > The full VIN on the BN1s, at least the early ones, was located on a > plastic plate about the size of a business card that was screwed onto the > kick panel (on top of the trim) on the interior of the car. Since the > interior trim of these cars was always susceptible to weather damage and > thus to being replaced with everything from concours quality replacements > to lime green shag carpet, the true VIN plate is pretty much sure to be > missing from any non-original car. Fortunately there was a back-up plate > on the chassis that shows the numbers only. 14XXXX as opposed to > BN1-L/14XXXX. This is explained and a drawing of the plate is shown in > Roger Moment and Gary Anderson's book. > > Bill Lawrence > BN1 # 554 From JNBrashear at garverengineers.com Thu Nov 29 09:19:29 2007 From: JNBrashear at garverengineers.com (Brashear, Jack, N) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 10:19:29 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] valve stem seals Message-ID: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE6037A1E46@glitas07.garverinc.local> Hi All, I'd like to put in new valve stem seals on my Mk2 (29E) engine. I'm thinking this can be done without removing the head but I'm not certain. Sooo, I'm looking for a little help here.... Please?? Oh yes, I have aftermarket bonnet-looking seals now and they seem to have become brittle after over 2 years of non-use. As always, many thanks to this great list. Jack From msalter at precisionsportscar.com Thu Nov 29 10:24:54 2007 From: msalter at precisionsportscar.com (Michael Salter) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:24:54 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] valve stem seals In-Reply-To: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE6037A1E46@glitas07.garverinc.local> Message-ID: <20071129172345.59B90187AC0@autox.team.net> Hi Jack, It's not that difficult. This is the way I have done it, although I must say that the original "O" ring seals seem to work perfectly well and the top hat style probably isn't necessary. Remove the rocker shaft. With one piston down the bore feed about 12" of sash cord into the spark plug hole. Rotate the engine until it stops jamming the cord up against the valves and stopping them from falling down when you remove the valve springs. Using the type of valve spring compressor KD2078 http://www.mytoolstore.com/kd/kdengi13.html which grips the spring coils you can then remove the valve springs and replace the seals. Michael Salter 100 (1953) AHX12 (1953) Bugeye (1961) http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/ -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+msalter=precisionsportscar.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brashear, Jack, N Sent: November 29, 2007 11:19 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] valve stem seals Hi All, I'd like to put in new valve stem seals on my Mk2 (29E) engine. I'm thinking this can be done without removing the head but I'm not certain. Sooo, I'm looking for a little help here.... Please?? Oh yes, I have aftermarket bonnet-looking seals now and they seem to have become brittle after over 2 years of non-use. As always, many thanks to this great list. Jack _______________________________________________ From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net Thu Nov 29 10:31:23 2007 From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:31:23 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] valve stem seals In-Reply-To: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE6037A1E46@glitas07.garverinc.local> References: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE6037A1E46@glitas07.garverinc.local> Message-ID: <1DE2BE46-419B-43F2-AFEF-CDDE0455EF18@sbcglobal.net> Yes it can be done. 1. Remove spark plugs and pressurize the cylinder with air pressure with the cylinder at TDC and rocker arm assy removed. MAKE SURE THE TRANSMISSION IS IN NEUTRAL. If the engine is not at TDC the engine will start to turn as soon as there is air pressure applied. 2. Now you will need the get a spring compressor that will work to compress the spring and remove the keepers. Do not push the valve down as that will release the air pressure and drop the valve down into the cylinder. 3. Now you can replace the valve seal and re assemble. The valve seals that you had on should not have dried up after sitting for a couple of years are you sure that this is the problem. David Nock British Car Specialists Stockton Ca 95205 209-948-8767 www.britishcarspecialists.com . . On Nov 29, 2007, at 8:19 AM, Brashear, Jack, N wrote: > Hi All, I'd like to put in new valve stem seals on my Mk2 (29E) > engine. > I'm thinking this can be done without removing the head but I'm not > certain. Sooo, I'm looking for a little help here.... Please?? Oh > yes, > I have aftermarket bonnet-looking seals now and they seem to have > become > brittle after over 2 years of non-use. As always, many thanks to this > great list. > > Jack > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From jstmorris at yahoo.com Thu Nov 29 11:14:38 2007 From: jstmorris at yahoo.com (J. Scott Morris) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:14:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Healeys] Coys Auction Lot 355 SMO745 Message-ID: <819120.34480.qm@web30314.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi all; Coys auction for Dec 5th at Westminster, London has what is purported to be SMO745 up for sale. http://www.coys.co.uk/auctions/lot.php?auction=71&id=53053 In the description for Lot 355 it is stated by Coys: "We are delighted to announce that it is now confirmed that the 1958 Austin Healey competition car entered into our True Greats sale on December 5th is a works car campaigned by the factory up until 1960. The car was registered SMO 745 and was the second Healey 3000 to be homologated and subsequently sold onto Don Grimshaw and re-registered as DG 95. " I believe this to be an error. As far as I know, SMO745 and DG95 were, and are, two separate cars. One source confirming the separate cars is found in John Baggott's book "Big Healeys In Competition" on page 135-138. Also, George Grammer of the Thames Valley Centre Austin Healey Club stated in March, 2004 when he took over as newsletter editor of Top Marque that ... I had my first 3000 in 1968, which was the ex works Pat Moss car, SMO 745. Imagine the huge and somewhat emotional thrill on the Friday of the recent Historic Motorsport Exhibition at Stoneleigh, when John Everard kindly reunited me with this car that I hadnt sat in for some 30 years!  see: http://www.austin-healey-club.co.uk/Pages/Top%20Marque%20Feb%202004.htm Can anyone confirm whether or not SMO745 was re-registered as DG95? --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada J. Scott Morris - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives --------------------------------- Looking for a X-Mas gift? Everybody needs a Flickr Pro Account! From msalter at precisionsportscar.com Thu Nov 29 12:23:41 2007 From: msalter at precisionsportscar.com (Michael Salter) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:23:41 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Crownwheel bolt torque In-Reply-To: <00e501c83297$a74beac0$9e3a4ad1@S0026273562> Message-ID: <20071129192228.348A5187A6B@autox.team.net> I have posted a new article on my blog looking for ideas on how to lock the crownwheel bolts in AHX12. http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=421 Any realistic and novel and polite recommendations would be appreciated. Michael Salter 100 (1953) AHX12 (1953) Bugeye (1961) http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael From healeybruce at roadrunner.com Thu Nov 29 15:05:03 2007 From: healeybruce at roadrunner.com (Healey Bruce) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:05:03 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Front bumper mounts for 3000 wanted Message-ID: <002101c832d3$e58499e0$9101a8c0@home> Before I buy from Moss, I wanted to see if anyone has a set (i.e., R and L side) of front bumper mounts for a 100-6 or 3000 that they would be willing to sell. If so, please contact me off the list. Thanks. Bruce Steele 1960 BN7 Brea, CA From ampole at hotmail.com Thu Nov 29 15:31:18 2007 From: ampole at hotmail.com (andy pole) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 22:31:18 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] swivel / kingpin cork seal Message-ID: Hi Guys I'm putting together my newly powder coated suspension ready to bolt onto the car when it comes back. The kingpin set I got (and all new ones) only seems to come with the 4 cork seals for the fulcrum pin, the parts list shows also a cork seal that seems to sit between the bottom of the swivel pin and the swivel axle body, does this matter as it seems to be missing in all kits? Also does the supplied o ring sit on the bottom bush to seal the dust cover bottom where it sits on the bush?. many thanks Andy _________________________________________________________________ Who's friends with who and co-starred in what? http://www.searchgamesbox.com/celebrityseparation.shtml From tld6008 at mchsi.com Thu Nov 29 15:45:13 2007 From: tld6008 at mchsi.com (tld6008 at mchsi.com) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 22:45:13 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] SU carb rebuilders Message-ID: <112920072245.5386.474F40F900060DA30000150A219791336303010CD2079C080C03BFC8CFCFC00B049B@mchsi.com> Anyone had experience with Island Automotion LTD? -- Tim Davis BN7 From dwhite4949 at wowway.com Thu Nov 29 16:24:46 2007 From: dwhite4949 at wowway.com (Daniel and Diane White) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:24:46 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] SU carb rebuilders Message-ID: <474F4A3E.4030502@wowway.com> Tim, I have worked with Island Automotion. I needed carb parts for my '62 BN7 Mk II. I highly recommend them. Dan White Anyone had experience with Island Automotion LTD? -- Tim Davis BN7 _______________________________________________ From dwflagg at juno.com Thu Nov 29 18:13:24 2007 From: dwflagg at juno.com (Douglas W Flagg) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:13:24 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] SU Rebuild Kit Message-ID: <20071129.201325.2120.0.dwflagg@juno.com> I have a complete, original, sealed SU carburettor "HIF" type rebuild kit by Warnerford Industries, a unit of Borg Warner. If you have an interest, please contact me off the list. Thanks. Doug From ynotink at msn.com Thu Nov 29 18:57:50 2007 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 01:57:50 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] VIN plate In-Reply-To: <1493668761-1196315592-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1035451807-@bxe119.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: I had no title and just a bill of sale. The MVD inspected the car and the VIN plate. The state police did a VIN search to determine the car wasn't stolen and I posted a security bond in the amount of the estimated value. It cost about $400 including tax and license. The kicker is that they won't do the inspections of a vehicle until it's ready for the road, so it would be possible to really get hurt if the VIN turned up on the stolen list. They did find two hits on mine. As I recall one was a Winnebago somewhere back east and the other was a garden tractor in Florida. I don't have the plastic tag so my new title just shows the numeric part of the VIN. Bill Lawrence >Not every inspector in CA is as focussed as Kenny. We had the local sheriff >complete the form for us. I had to show him where the I.D. was. Everything >was on the up and up, the numbers matched a ten year old white slip (CA >discards files long before ten years) and the whole thing took about three >minutes. >-Roland >BN1 #724 From ynotink at msn.com Thu Nov 29 19:09:27 2007 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 02:09:27 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] VIN plate In-Reply-To: <00e501c83297$a74beac0$9e3a4ad1@S0026273562> Message-ID: Yeah, there is a reference somewhere as to when they switched to the "unified" numbering system. Only the early 100s had a plastic plate. Bill Lawrence >From: "Carr&Edwards" >To: >Subject: Re: [Healeys] VIN plate >Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:53:43 -0500 > >My '54 BN1 (BN1L221626) has the vehicle ID plate -- with car and engine # >-- >in the engine compartment, at the top of the firewall on the passenger >side, >next to the body # plate. > >Sarah Carr >BN1 in PA From sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au Thu Nov 29 19:19:11 2007 From: sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au (sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 13:19:11 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Famous Healey Owners Message-ID: <1196389151.474f731f76317@webmail.hotkey.net.au> Keith Turk where are you? Why down here in the Great Southern Land I was watching a pay TV show by 'Hot Rod Magazine' - Street Drag Champion and who was there doing the Tech. Inspections? Our Keith Turk with a speaking role as an expert-well done Joe From richchrysler at quickclic.net Thu Nov 29 19:23:30 2007 From: richchrysler at quickclic.net (Rich C) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:23:30 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] VIN plate References: Message-ID: <007c01c832f7$ffd8fa60$0471a8c0@ophrdc.org> Actually there were 3 different plates and or locations for the basic number plate within the production of the BN1. First was the ivory coloured plastic plate we've recently been speaking about that was fastened to the left side interior kick panel. This lasted until the end of the non-unified numbering system, late August 1954. Second was the familiar oval aluminum plate held with 2 screws that was first mounted in the same position as the previous, again on the left side interior kick panel. Third was the indentical plate, but finally moved out onto the engine bay side of the bulkhead area, just inboard of the fresh air duct aperture. The first two scenarios result in the plates very often missing from those earlier cars, having usually been lost when the interior panel deteriorated and was removed. Rich Chrysler AHCA Hundred Registrar ----- Original Message ----- From: "WILLIAM B LAWRENCE" To: ; Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] VIN plate > Yeah, there is a reference somewhere as to when they switched to the > "unified" numbering system. Only the early 100s had a plastic plate. > > Bill Lawrence > > >>From: "Carr&Edwards" >>To: >>Subject: Re: [Healeys] VIN plate >>Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:53:43 -0500 >> >>My '54 BN1 (BN1L221626) has the vehicle ID plate -- with car and engine # >>-- >>in the engine compartment, at the top of the firewall on the passenger >>side, >>next to the body # plate. >> >>Sarah Carr >>BN1 in PA > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From ynotink at msn.com Thu Nov 29 19:23:46 2007 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 02:23:46 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] valve stem seals In-Reply-To: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE6037A1E46@glitas07.garverinc.local> Message-ID: After nearly going blind searching Google for valve guide seals I finally found a great information source on the topic at MGAguru.com. It's written by Barney Gaylord and is targetted toward MG owners, but the information applies to Healeys as well (the exploded drawing looks a lot like the one in the 100 manual.) In most cases the valve guides need to be machined to accept the seal, so doing it in-situ may not be possible. Brand names and sources you can look for are: Pioneer Inc. (RPM Machine), Simrit, Crane, Manley, Fel-Pro and 440 source. They provide a wide range of seals and I think I saw some that may not require the guides to be cut, but those may not fit inside the inner spring. Good luck. Bill Lawrence >From: "Brashear, Jack, N" >To: >Subject: [Healeys] valve stem seals >Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 10:19:29 -0600 > >Hi All, I'd like to put in new valve stem seals on my Mk2 (29E) engine. >I'm thinking this can be done without removing the head but I'm not >certain. Sooo, I'm looking for a little help here.... Please?? Oh yes, >I have aftermarket bonnet-looking seals now and they seem to have become >brittle after over 2 years of non-use. As always, many thanks to this >great list. > >Jack >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >Healeys at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From Awgertoo at aol.com Thu Nov 29 19:29:57 2007 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:29:57 EST Subject: [Healeys] Famous Healey Owners Message-ID: In a message dated 11/29/2007 9:19:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au writes: Keith Turk where are you? Why down here in the Great Southern Land I was watching a pay TV show by 'Hot Rod Magazine' - Street Drag Champion and who was there doing the Tech. Inspections? Our Keith Turk with a speaking role as an expert-well done --------------------------------------- I saw Keith on a show filmed at Maxim South Carolina where they do straightline speed runs--sort of the East Coast version of Bonneville. Best--Michael Oritt **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) From Awgertoo at aol.com Thu Nov 29 19:38:19 2007 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:38:19 EST Subject: [Healeys] valve stem seals Message-ID: In a message dated 11/29/2007 9:32:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ynotink at msn.com writes: MGAguru.com What a wonderful resource--I wish we had a simliar one for our Healeys. Best--Michael Oritt **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) From helyjohn at cablespeed.com Thu Nov 29 19:57:58 2007 From: helyjohn at cablespeed.com (John Snyder) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:57:58 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] valve stem seals References: Message-ID: <004701c832fc$d0dcd560$f030eb42@FRED> I have been using Clevite # 216-1143 valve stem seals for years. They fit right over the top of the stock valve guide and just barely fit inside the inner spring.. I just bought some seals identical to the Clevite seals from the local NAPA. For some reason, they could not get the Clevite seals, but crossed-referenced to another brand (I think Fel-Pro) which were identical. I think these seals are actually for a 2.8 L Chevy. John Snyder > After nearly going blind searching Google for valve guide seals I finally > found a great information source on the topic at MGAguru.com. It's written > by Barney Gaylord and is targetted toward MG owners, but the information > applies to Healeys as well (the exploded drawing looks a lot like the one > in > the 100 manual.) In most cases the valve guides need to be machined to > accept the seal, so doing it in-situ may not be possible. > > Brand names and sources you can look for are: Pioneer Inc. (RPM Machine), > Simrit, Crane, Manley, Fel-Pro and 440 source. They provide a wide range > of > seals and I think I saw some that may not require the guides to be cut, > but > those may not fit inside the inner spring. > > Good luck. > > Bill Lawrence From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Thu Nov 29 20:14:43 2007 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (James Shope) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:14:43 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] extra parts Message-ID: <008001c832ff$26f79c30$5201a8c0@Jim> have some old rusty parts left over from restoration, to include two seat backs and seat pans for a 100 or very early six. pans are there but need blasted and painted. backs need some sheet metal filled in and then blasted. yours for the shipping costs. also a couple of the old heavy bumpers that need straightened and chromed. healeymanjim From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Thu Nov 29 20:40:11 2007 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (James Shope) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:40:11 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] valve seals Message-ID: <001c01c83302$b6194640$5201a8c0@Jim> about 30 years ago i had a valve job done here in vegas. the machinist said he used Chevy II (two) valve seals on the healey and they fit perfect. do not know what size engine or if there was more than one engine, but they worked fine. went from using a quart of oil every 50 miles to 1 quart every 7-800 miles or so. healeymanjim From RonFineEsq at earthlink.net Thu Nov 29 22:29:56 2007 From: RonFineEsq at earthlink.net (Ron Fine) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:29:56 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] VIN plate References: Message-ID: <002201c83312$0b581910$6501a8c0@XPS400> I'm sure that Kenny is doing an important job to stop fraud and vehicle theft but it seems to me that if any CHP officer wanted to catch a lot of law breakers in California all he/she would have to do is attend any of the many car shows staged around the state each weekend. Just about every old car with the hood up to show off the engine bay will have a VIN plate that has been removed at one time or another to paint the firewall or engine bay. Ron > >>Not every inspector in CA is as focussed as Kenny. From ynotink at msn.com Thu Nov 29 23:20:47 2007 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 06:20:47 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] extra parts In-Reply-To: <008001c832ff$26f79c30$5201a8c0@Jim> Message-ID: Jim, I've responded several times to this message, but Hotmail says the messages haven't been sent. I hope one of these gets through to let you know I would like the seats. Bill Lawrence From ynotink at msn.com Thu Nov 29 23:37:57 2007 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 06:37:57 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] extra parts In-Reply-To: <008001c832ff$26f79c30$5201a8c0@Jim> Message-ID: Hmmm! Looks like it was working after all. Maybe you can tell I want the seats... Bill Lawrence From bluechipracing at snet.net Fri Nov 30 08:42:31 2007 From: bluechipracing at snet.net (bluechip) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:42:31 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] valve stem seals References: Message-ID: <005301c83367$9f5b7bc0$1f9bfea9@dell> I have heard that some folks (mostly racers) do not use valve stem seals at all. Reason could be to assure lubrication between the stem and the guide. Any truth to that rumor? Whats the down side? Jim Smith East Hampton, CT From grumpyinloomis at ssctv.net Fri Nov 30 11:12:23 2007 From: grumpyinloomis at ssctv.net (Jerry Costanzo) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:12:23 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Drainage Channel pictures? Message-ID: <002301c8337c$8e6c6990$0500a8c0@cardinalhealth.net> Does anyone have any pictures of how the drainage channel is attached to the rear shroud? I did not take this car apart and want to make sure I am attaching it right. Picture will help. The archives only had one hit on this subject and it wasn't clear enough for my brain. MOSS page "Inner Body Panels 100-6, 3000, part # 91 This is page 120 in my MOSS book. Only on BJ7and BJ8s Jerry BJ8 From dan at warner-associates.com Fri Nov 30 11:40:07 2007 From: dan at warner-associates.com (Dan Stromquist) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:40:07 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] VIN plate In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001501c83380$6e4dc4c0$3500000a@warner.com> That garden tractor is probably where your motor came from. Dan From: healeys-bounces+dan=warner-associates.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+dan=warner-associates.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WILLIAM B LAWRENCE Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 7:58 PM To: rwil at sbcglobal.net; RonFineEsq at earthlink.net; healeys-bounces+rwil=sbcglobal.net at autox.team.net; theswed at hotmail.com; healey.nut at gmail.com Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] VIN plate I had no title and just a bill of sale. The MVD inspected the car and the VIN plate. The state police did a VIN search to determine the car wasn't stolen and I posted a security bond in the amount of the estimated value. It cost about $400 including tax and license. The kicker is that they won't do the inspections of a vehicle until it's ready for the road, so it would be possible to really get hurt if the VIN turned up on the stolen list. They did find two hits on mine. As I recall one was a Winnebago somewhere back east and the other was a garden tractor in Florida. I don't have the plastic tag so my new title just shows the numeric part of the VIN. Bill Lawrence >Not every inspector in CA is as focussed as Kenny. We had the local sheriff >complete the form for us. I had to show him where the I.D. was. Everything >was on the up and up, the numbers matched a ten year old white slip (CA >discards files long before ten years) and the whole thing took about three >minutes. >-Roland >BN1 #724 Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From sbyers at ec.rr.com Fri Nov 30 14:03:34 2007 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8Healeys) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 13:03:34 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] Famous Healey Owners In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hey, Michael - Let's give credit where credit is due. The location is an old WWII airbase in Maxton, NORTH CAROLINA. I went over there once to watch Keith run his Camaro. That was when he was just a lister, and before he got famous. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry Havelock, NC USA -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces+sbyers=ec.rr.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Awgertoo at aol.com Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 6:30 PM To: sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Famous Healey Owners I saw Keith on a show filmed at Maxim South Carolina where they do straightline speed runs--sort of the East Coast version of Bonneville. Best--Michael Oritt From healey.nut at gmail.com Fri Nov 30 18:42:25 2007 From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 09:42:25 +0800 Subject: [Healeys] VIN plate In-Reply-To: <002201c83312$0b581910$6501a8c0@XPS400> References: <002201c83312$0b581910$6501a8c0@XPS400> Message-ID: I just wish they would start with making the CHP impound cars driving on the road that aren't registered. That would be a nice start. On 11/30/07, Ron Fine wrote: > I'm sure that Kenny is doing an important job to stop fraud and vehicle > theft but it seems to me that if any CHP officer wanted to catch a lot of > law breakers in California all he/she would have to do is attend any of the > many car shows staged around the state each weekend. Just about every old > car with the hood up to show off the engine bay will have a VIN plate that > has been removed at one time or another to paint the firewall or engine bay. > > Ron > > > > >>Not every inspector in CA is as focussed as Kenny. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > -- Alan '52 A90 '53 BN1 '64 BJ8 From ynotink at msn.com Fri Nov 30 19:33:00 2007 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 02:33:00 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] VIN plate In-Reply-To: <001501c83380$6e4dc4c0$3500000a@warner.com> Message-ID: Hey, no four cylinder jokes around here! We're sensitive. At least some of us are. Besides I think Briggs and Stratton uses a better head gasket. Bill Lawrence >From: "Dan Stromquist" >To: "Healey List Emails" >Subject: Re: [Healeys] VIN plate >Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:40:07 -0600 > >That garden tractor is probably where your motor came from. >Dan From ynotink at msn.com Fri Nov 30 19:53:14 2007 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 02:53:14 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] VIN plate In-Reply-To: Message-ID: What's to keep a bunch of environazis from touring car shows and pointing out to their bureaucratic buddies which number plates have obviously been removed from the car at some point thus causing them to be confiscated removing all those old pollution spewing throwbacks from the road and placing their owners in 2 horsepower bubble cars (where all of us lesser beings belong) so that the elites can continue to commute intercontinentally on executive jets and provide fuel for their fleets of armored Escalades? Just a random thought. Bill Lawrence >From: "Alan Seigrist" > >I just wish they would start with making the CHP impound cars driving >on the road that aren't registered. That would be a nice start. > > > >On 11/30/07, Ron Fine wrote: > > I'm sure that Kenny is doing an important job to stop fraud and vehicle > > theft but it seems to me that if any CHP officer wanted to catch a lot >of > > law breakers in California all he/she would have to do is attend any of >the > > many car shows staged around the state each weekend. Just about every >old > > car with the hood up to show off the engine bay will have a VIN plate >that > > has been removed at one time or another to paint the firewall or engine >bay. > > > > Ron From kags at shaw.ca Fri Nov 30 19:53:51 2007 From: kags at shaw.ca (Earl Kagna) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 18:53:51 -0800 Subject: [Healeys] SU carb rebuilders References: <474F4A3E.4030502@wowway.com> Message-ID: <011201c833c5$675a1570$fb086c18@computer> Is that the guy here in Victoria? Earl Kagna - Victoria, BC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel and Diane White" To: "Healey list" Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 3:24 PM Subject: [Healeys] SU carb rebuilders Tim, I have worked with Island Automotion. I needed carb parts for my '62 BN7 Mk II. I highly recommend them. Dan White Anyone had experience with Island Automotion LTD? -- Tim Davis BN7 _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From ynotink at msn.com Fri Nov 30 19:57:11 2007 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 02:57:11 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] valve stem seals In-Reply-To: <005301c83367$9f5b7bc0$1f9bfea9@dell> Message-ID: I'm sure that some racers do this. The down side is increased oil consumption, probably not a major consideration on the track. Bill Lawrence >From: "bluechip" >To: >Subject: Re: [Healeys] valve stem seals >Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:42:31 -0500 > >I have heard that some folks (mostly racers) do not use valve stem seals at >all. Reason could be to assure lubrication between the stem and the guide. >Any truth to that rumor? Whats the down side? > >Jim Smith >East Hampton, CT >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >Healeys at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys From shop at justbrits.com Fri Nov 30 20:34:26 2007 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:34:26 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] VIN plate References: Message-ID: <011b01c833cb$12f80180$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> And NO goop on the gasket, Bill !!!! . . . . . . . . LMAO From shop at justbrits.com Fri Nov 30 20:36:45 2007 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:36:45 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] VIN plate References: <002201c83312$0b581910$6501a8c0@XPS400> Message-ID: <012101c833cb$663ab400$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> Then they would HAVE to lease the floor of Death Valley for storage, Allen!!!!! Anon From haywoodone at hotmail.com Fri Nov 30 21:07:21 2007 From: haywoodone at hotmail.com (George Haywood) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 23:07:21 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] swivel / kingpin cork seal Message-ID: Andy, When I replaced my kingpins the same corks were missing from the set. I called Moss about it and they just sent me some corks separately (no charge by the way). Guess they haven't fixed the problem yet. The O ring sits on the bottom bush to seal the dust cover. See the picture of my original axle housing. I can't seem to find any shots of the finished product so excuse the dirt and primer. George Haywood'65 bj8 > From: ampole at hotmail.com> To: healeys at autox.team.net> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 22:31:18 +0000> Subject: [Healeys] swivel / kingpin cork seal> > Hi Guys> I'm putting together my newly powder coated suspension ready to bolt onto the> car when it comes back. The kingpin set I got (and all new ones) only seems to> come with the 4 cork seals for the fulcrum pin, the parts list shows also a> cork seal that seems to sit between the bottom of the swivel pin and the> swivel axle body, does this matter as it seems to be missing in all kits?> Also does the supplied o ring sit on the bottom bush to seal the dust cover> bottom where it sits on the bush?.> many thanks> Andy> _________________________________________________________________> Who's friends with who and co-starred in what?> http://www.searchgamesbox.com/celebrityseparation.shtml> _______________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > Healeys at autox.team.net> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/connect.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_newways_112007 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg]