Bob. I bought them from Moss and they were so bad I sent them back and bought Bill's. Anyway you cut it, it is not an easy job to get them to fit right but Bill's are much easier. Cheers, JL James Lea PO Box 25 Rockport Maine 04856 1-207-236-3632 1952 MG TD 1952 Triumph Mayflower 1958 Rover P4 1962 Austin Healey BT7