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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Great responses, recommendations from all - very much appreciated. Thought I would summarize the key recommendations:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Fuel Regulator - 1-4 psi (with 3 psi discharge) placed up front with meter for ease of tuning, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Fuel Pump - also capable of 1 - 4 psi (consistent with Pierce Manifold’s recommendation). <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Fuel Line – hard line (3/8”) front to back with -6AN braided PTFE to connect carbs, pump, regulator, and fuel cell.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>4.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Fuel Return line - after the regulator, back to the fuel cell with a .040" restrictor. This helps maintain much more consistent fuel pressure at idle VS wide open.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>5.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Fuel Cell Pickups – either 2 duckfoot pickups, one in each back corner, or Holley HydraMat<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.75in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/hydramat/<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>6.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Fuel Safety addition - Revolution fuel pump controller - Pump only runs if there is a tach signal from the ignition. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.75in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>https://www.revolutionelectronics.com/Products/Fuel_Pump.html<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>7.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Brands - Holley seems to be the brand of choice, also mentioned - Carter (high volume/low pressure specifically for multi-Webers) <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>8.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Weber Fuel Bowl Tip- When you shut off the car, shut off the fuel pump first, and let it run a couple minutes to drain down the [Weber] fuel bowls. Mitigates hot fuel in the bowls heated by exhaust manifold.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>9.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Fuel Cell Dipstick Tip – dipstick marking - fill one gallon at a time and mark the dipstick at each level.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>10.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Fuel Line Spec Chart - https://historicracinggroup.com/resources/Reference_Material/Canton/Fuel Consumption and Flow Quick Ref by CM Filters.pdf<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Oh, don’t run out of gas while on the track!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks again to all that responded!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Mark<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Bob Kramer [mailto:rkramer56@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 12, 2025 8:36 AM<br><b>To:</b> rocky spitfire4.com<br><b>Cc:</b> Jason Ostrowski; Mark Cook; Friends of Triumph Group Email<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] TR6 race car re-build - Fuel line questions<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Holley makes a pickup attachment called Hydramat that will suck fuel from anywhere it touches making the one pickup style fuel cells even better than adding a second pickup. We use it in the ChampCar. Before we added one we found that we would have fuel pickup issues with a couple of gallons of fuel in the cell. The strategy we use on our 15 gallon tank is to start full, run 2 hours, add 10 gallons at each stop and before the Hydramat we had drivers coming in early for a "miss", throwing off the whole plan. The only drawback is that you can completely run out of fuel. It'll miss and then stop pretty quickly!<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/hydramat/">www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/hydramat/</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Jun 12, 2025 at 2:12 AM rocky <a href="http://spitfire4.com">spitfire4.com</a> via Fot <<a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:Aptos'>For years I just had the stock metal line in my full-race Spitfire, which ran under the floorboard. Eventually it got pinched. The system I installed was an ATL cell in the trunk, with a duckfoot pickup in each back corner, two Holley red fuel pumps leading to a T-fitting – all in the trunk – then a single line through the passenger compartment just under the door (as far from me as possible) to a regulator under the hood mounted on the firewall, then to the carbs. Regulator has a gauge installed where I can see it. I don’t really refer to it while driving (although I can), primarily I use it when setting fuel pressure to the carbs. For the Spitfire 2½ pounds of fuel pressure was wholly sufficient (the Holleys would deliver 7). For the TR6 maybe something else. Oh, and ALL lines braided since they were all vulnerable. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:Aptos'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:Aptos'>I ordered my fuel cell direct from ATL and specified the two pickups. Roundy-round guys usually only have one, in the right-rear corner, because they only turn left. We go both ways. I also ordered the cell with a dipstick to know the fuel level. And then </span><img border=0 width=20 height=20 id="m_4927723889417900244_x005f_x0000_i1025" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/joypixels/emoji-assets@v7.0.0/png/64/1f606.png" alt="😆"><span style='font-family:Aptos'> discovered that while the cell had the place to put the dipstick in, the foam inside did not! I had to take the top off, pull the foam out, figure out where the hole needed to be and cut the hole in the foam. Then the first time I filled the cell, I filled it one gallon at a time and marked the dipstick. It’s worked great ever since. I also learned not to fill the cell full to the top because it would splash out of the overflow and corners got all excited that I was spilling gas. Filling it a gallon short got me through all races. For autocrossing (with the two pickups) 3 gallons worked fine. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:Aptos'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:Aptos'>--Rocky Entriken</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:Aptos'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>From:</b> Fot <<a href="mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank">fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jason Ostrowski via Fot<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 11, 2025 11:08 PM<br><b>To:</b> Mark Cook <<a href="mailto:mecook@mindspring.com" target="_blank">mecook@mindspring.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Friends of Triumph Group Email <<a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target="_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] TR6 race car re-build - Fuel line questions<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Lots of questions there. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I’m not a TR6 guy but I’d like the fuel pressure regulator to be in the engine compartment. For Tuning and regulating purposes; close to where you are at when you’re watching the motor and gauges.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Jason Ostrowski<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Friendly Ghost Racing <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Jun 11, 2025, at 10:17 AM, Mark Cook via Fot <<a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target="_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>All,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>So, I have gutted and stripped the #55 ‘69 TR6 race car first purchased, having a proper roll cage installed and painted, and will be installing a newly built engine with triple Weber 45 DCOEs. Will be ordering some parts while cage is installed and body painted.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Brings me to my questions. What size fuel lines – 5/16” (-5) or 3/8” (-6)? Also, thoughts on 100% steel braided PTFE, or combination of metal fuel line (front to back) with braided to connect to the fuel cell and Webers? Fuel pump, filter and pressure regulator will be in the trunk with the fuel cell. Return line? The 6 previously had fuel injection and a fuel return line. Not sure it is necessary for the Webers.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Mark Cook<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>During Chuck Arnold’s ownership (pre-2018) Prior Owner 2018-2023 Now (coffee table stage) <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:Aptos'><image003.png></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:Aptos'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:Aptos'><image004.jpg></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:Aptos'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:Aptos'><image005.jpg></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:Aptos'>_______________________________________________<br></span><a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target="_blank"><span style='font-family:Aptos'>fot@autox.team.net</span></a><span style='font-family:Aptos'><br><br></span><a href="http://www.fot-racing.com" target="_blank"><span style='font-family:Aptos'>http://www.fot-racing.com</span></a><span style='font-family:Aptos'><br><br>Donate: </span><a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank"><span style='font-family:Aptos'>http://www.team.net/donate.html</span></a><span style='font-family:Aptos'><br>Archive: </span><a href="http://autox.team.net/archive" target="_blank"><span style='font-family:Aptos'>http://autox.team.net/archive</span></a><span style='font-family:Aptos'> </span><a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot" target="_blank"><span style='font-family:Aptos'>http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot</span></a><span style='font-family:Aptos'><br>Unsubscribe/Manage: </span><a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com" target="_blank"><span style='font-family:Aptos'>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>_______________________________________________<br><a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target="_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a><br><br><a href="http://www.fot-racing.com" target="_blank">http://www.fot-racing.com</a><br><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Archive: <a href="http://autox.team.net/archive" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/archive</a> <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot<br>Unsubscribe/Manage</a>: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56@gmail.com" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56@gmail.com</a><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailsignatureprefix>-- </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><img border=0 width=96 height=76 id="_x0000_i1026" src="cid:image002.png@01DBDB7F.11DA4B90"><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Please consider supporting my MS150 Ride<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://events.nationalmssociety.org/participant/590407" target="_blank">https://events.nationalmssociety.org/participant/590407</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>