<div dir="ltr">Actually I think what makes those pads work so well was the installation....<div>                                               P.J.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 4:15 PM Jason Ostrowski via Fot <<a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Well, Ted would know!<div>I can’t speak about the Velvetouch reference, but that is interesting.</div><div>This set was manufactured by Raybestos, In the 1980’s.</div><div>They came with my car as part of the spares package.</div><div>I saved them for many years always wondering if they would hold up. </div><div>Prior to the 2023 Kastner Cup at RA, We put them on the car mostly because it was the only set we could find while rummaging through parts boxes in somewhat of a panic as a pre-race prep found us in dire need of a set of race shoes.</div><div>They felt great from the start and have held up better than the carbotech ones we typically use.</div><div>The ware has been very even and the friction material and drums look spot on- </div><div>I’m not sure if it’s the quality of the friction material or the 4 segment design (but they sure work good)! We are keeping them in use after over 20 hard race sessions.</div><div>I might explore getting some like these made in a small batch since the stats all seem to point to a very good design.</div><div>Anyone have a friend or contact at Raybestos or hard thoughts on the matter?</div><div><br></div><div>Jason Ostrowski</div><div>Friendly Ghost Racing </div><div>1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars<br><br><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Aug 7, 2024, at 8:23 AM, Ted Schumacher via Fot <<a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target="_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">

  
    
  
  
    <div>These are segmented brake shoes.  This
      is done when friction material will not bend to conform to shoe
      diameter.  It was a common practice years ago when Velvetouch
      material was available.  Velvetouch would not "bend" so material
      was cut into smaller segments the could be attached to brake shoe.
      Ted<br>
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      On 8/7/2024 7:42 AM, Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">10% less contact area?
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        <div>Is this the drum brake version of a slotted rotor?</div>
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        <div>Who makes them?</div>
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        <div>thanks</div>
        <div>mike h</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at
          12:54 AM Jason Ostrowski via Fot <<a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target="_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>>
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          is a cool tidbit <br>
          The best rear brake shoes I have ever used are shown below.<br>
          These are currently being used by me and have been working
          great.<br>
          Notice anything unusual?<br>
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          Friendly Ghost Racing<br>
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