<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Multiple SCCA National Champions, Steve Sargis has done this.<div><br></div><div>Not sure in what time period that became permitted.</div><div><br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir="ltr">Brad Eells<div>Sent from my iPhone</div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Mar 20, 2024, at 11:23 AM, Erik Jacobsen <kekjacobsen@yahoo.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml><o:OfficeDocumentSettings><o:AllowPNG/><o:PixelsPerInch>96</o:PixelsPerInch></o:OfficeDocumentSettings></xml><![endif]-->
The Kirkey seats are a fairly malleable aluminum so they take to being modified pretty well. <br><br><br><div class="yahoo-signature"><a style="font-size:12px" href="https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=nativeplacement&c=Global_Acquisition_YMktg_315_Internal_EmailSignature&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=Global_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100000604&af_sub5=EmailSignature__Static_">Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone</a><br></div><br><p class="yahoo-quoted-begin" style="font-size: 15px; color: rgb(132, 115, 255); padding-top: 15px; margin-top: 0px;">On Wednesday, March 20, 2024, 11:30 AM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:</p><blockquote class="iosymail"><div id="yiv7893561037"><div>Mark,<div><br clear="none"></div><div>I faced the same dilemma. My Mk3 had a 16.5” wide pan and a 17” wide Kirkey to fit.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>My Chuck Gee approved modification was achieved with some “re-contouring” of the inside pan lip with a 5 pound engineering hammer.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>A perfect fit was soon created…</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><div dir="ltr">Brad Eells<div>Sent from my iPhone</div></div><div dir="ltr"><div id="yiv7893561037yqtfd13924" class="yiv7893561037yqt3331656726"><br clear="none"><blockquote type="cite">On Mar 20, 2024, at 8:38 AM, Mark Fisher via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></blockquote></div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div id="yiv7893561037yqtfd38278" class="yiv7893561037yqt3331656726"><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:18px;" class="yiv7893561037ydp2c072190yahoo-style-wrap"><div id="yiv7893561037ydp2c072190yiv7687092718"><div dir="ltr">
<br clear="none">Just bought a Kirkey 38170.The challenge for guys like us is to get a seat that is wide enough for our child bearing hips, while still fitting down into the channel in the pan on a Spitfire (Schr<span></span><span>ö</span>dinger's bucket?). I would have preferred a full containment seat, but there was simply no room with the original cage in place.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">While I am reasonably sure a 17" would fit you snugly, if you have time, it would be worth trying on a 16" as it would fit in the car easier.</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">I am bringing a pair of Spitfires back into track service after many dormant years. Be safe, have fun!</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Regards,<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Mark "Silo" Fisher, builder of "Invincible II(a)"</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv7893561037ydp2c072190yiv7687092718yahoo-signature"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" style="font-size:12px;" target="_blank" href="https://more.att.com/currently/imap">Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone</a><br clear="none"></div><br clear="none">
</div></div></div><div id="yiv7893561037yqt83889" class="yiv7893561037yqt5169138052"><p style="font-size: 15px; color: rgb(123, 106, 246); padding-top: 15px; margin-top: 0px;" class="yiv7893561037yahoo-quoted-begin">On Wednesday, March 20, 2024, 5:49 AM, yellow04 via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:</p><blockquote class="yiv7893561037iosymail"><div id="yiv7893561037"><div>
<p>Out east, it seems the budget friendly seats we see most are made by Kirkey. There used to be a couple of models that worked well and looked OK in our cars, but 10 years ago when I bought the seat for my TR3 I found only one that fit the bill. I seem to remember it was the Series 38.</p>
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<p>Figure a little over $500 for the seat and cover from Summit Racing.</p>
<p>When choosing a seat, you want one that holds your butt and torso firmly when strapped in, and since you will be sharing the car with multiple drivers that may turn out to be a compromise. The seats come in different widths, and it really helps to have both you and the son-in-law sit in the a couple to verify the fit. Hopefully you will find one that is not too snug for one and not too loose for the other. If you run into trouble, remember you can always fabricate a foam insert (or just stuff some foam in the right places) to take up excess room for the smaller of the two drivers. </p>
<p>The seat needs to be attached to some real structure under the car, I welded brackets off the frame to give me real steel to bolt to, same for the belts. A pretty easy task on a TR3, the frame is pretty close to where the bolts came through the floor on Old Blue. Just using big fender washers under the sheet metal floor is not the best way to go, especially considering the 60 year old sheet metal.</p>
<p>Good luck, and I hope you guys make it to the Kastner Cup!</p>
<p>Henry Frye</p>
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<div dir="ltr">Scrutineering suggested a new era seat vs the original stiff backed short TR3A seat. A highbacked seat with belts anchored looping around the roll bar. Suggested is an understatement. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">My son-in-law and I are both 6'1" and 230 lbs. He is configured differently than I and 38 years younger.</div>
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