<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">You guys just don’t squeeze the rulebook hard enough. If your roll cage is “braced” by extending from near the top of the cage to the rear spring mount or thereabout, you have an ideal place to mount a shock that doesn’t depend on a spindly frame. Also makes said spindly frame a lot less spindly.<div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 31, 2024, at 11:38 AM, Mark Cook via Fot <<a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" class="">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta charset="UTF-8" class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Bob and Charly,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Thanks – It crossed my mind about potential rear frame damage with the tube shock bracket when I was inspecting the rear shocks. Not a lot of support there compared to the original lever shocks. So, with your and Charly’s comments, will likely refit with adjustable lever shocks for the rear.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Appreciate both your and Mark S’s comments on Delrin/Nylatron which is also helpful. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Hope to see you at VIR in March/April. Will not be driving, but will be up to watch.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Thanks you,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Mark<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Robert Lang [<a href="mailto:robertlangtr6@yahoo.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:robertlangtr6@yahoo.com</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, January 31, 2024 1:40 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">fot@autox.team.net</a>; Mark Cook<br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Fot] Koni vs Gaz vs Spax - TR6 racecar<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Hi,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Go with the Koni shocks in front. The SPAX shocks work well, but the gas leaks out and they become "just shocks" and without the gas, they can foam which effects the shock efficiency over the course of a session. Or plan to replace the Spax every two years, plus or minus.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">For the rears, unless you converted to a coil over setup and / or tie your shocks to your roll cage GET RID OF THE TUBE SHOCKS. I have seen a lot of problems with the conversion shock setups out there and you risk frame damage running with those shocks. I can write a lot on this topic, but unless you can verify the action of the bump stops AND secure the shocks via rod ends, I will guarantee frame structural failure over time.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">So - get a set of stock Armstrong lever shocks for the rear and get<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://nosimport.com/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">nosimport.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>(worldwide autoparts in Madison, WI) to rebuild them as adjustable and you get both a workable, reliable setup and it will work without messing up your frame. Unless you do stupid things like I do and bottom the suspension and break the frame, but I digress. I've run the Armstong adjustables for a long time and they work great. With a little tuning, you can get rid of the rear squat when you tromp on it, Makes the car handle completely differently.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Delrin is a trademark, I believe - the material is the same as Nylatron. You can verify by looking at the durometer ratings.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Regards,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Bob Lang<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div></div><div id="ydp518536d1yahoo_quoted_6902120541" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class="">On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 at 01:24:07 PM EST, Mark Cook via Fot <<a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div id="ydp518536d1yiv3804697143" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><p class="ydp518536d1yiv3804697143msonormal" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class="">Quick question (maybe?). I am replacing the existing Koni front adjustable shocks (PN 80-1784). Bushings are worn out as likely are the shocks. Same with the rear adjustable SPAX shocks on my ’69 TR6 racecar. I am more familiar with Bilstein, Koni and MCS. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="ydp518536d1yiv3804697143msonormal" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="ydp518536d1yiv3804697143msonormal" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class="">Any preference? Spax and Gaz are unknown to me, but the external adjuster is appealing compared to having to remove the Koni’s every time I need to adjust the suspension.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="ydp518536d1yiv3804697143msonormal" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="ydp518536d1yiv3804697143msonormal" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class="">Using the “while I am in there” approach, I will be replacing all the front/rear suspension bushings. Have purchased Nylatron bushings. Cannot find Delrin products for TR6.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="ydp518536d1yiv3804697143msonormal" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="ydp518536d1yiv3804697143msonormal" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class="">Thanks,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="ydp518536d1yiv3804697143msonormal" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="ydp518536d1yiv3804697143msonormal" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; 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