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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Thanks Ted, good information. I know that TR's also switched from having the ring gear on the front of the flywheel to having it on the back. <span> I know the early TR-2/3 starters pushed into the ring gear from the
front, while the later (somewhere around 50,000 VIN) pulled in from the
rear of the flywheel. Thus, I believe the ring gear was on the side
of the flywheel from which the starter pinion gear engaged. </span>I didn't realize they changed the number of teeth on the pinion gear, but I guess it would make sense that this change would have occurred when they switched starters and flywheels (again, around VIN 50,000). Is this correct?</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Jack <br></div><div><br></div>
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On Thursday, November 2, 2023 at 04:06:10 PM EDT, Ted Schumacher via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
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<div class="ydp5c4c4a76yiv0256509320moz-cite-prefix">Sorry to be late on this. Since we were
one of the originators of this product we are very familiar with
it. The Denso based gear reduction starter disengages from the
ring gear when the engine starts, unlike the original Lucas
starter which disengages when the engine "fires". Because of
this, the starter pinion needs to engage 40 - 60% of the ring
gear, not the entire ring gear. If entire ring gear is engage, it
is possible for the starter not to disengage and be spun at engine
speed. This will trash the starter. Our units are ring gear and
flywheel specific. Example, there are 2 different TR3 ring gears.
They differ by one tooth so a TR3 that used an original 9 tooth
pinion gear starter (early car) cannot use the starter for the
later TR3 or TR4 that had a 10 tooth pinion gear. Ted<br clear="none">
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On 10/28/2023 3:18 PM, DENNIS WALJE via Fot wrote:<br clear="none">
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Thanks to all for your help.
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<div>Update: I have pulled starter and bench tested it and it
looks like it is working correctly. The pinion gear is moving
out and spinning. </div>
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<div>Inspection of pinion gear shows contact pattern at less than
50%. Inspection of ring gear shows same patters. It looks like
the pinion gear is not coming out far enough or failing to mesh
with ring gear. </div>
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<div>Has anyone seen this?<br clear="none">
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<p class="ydp5c4c4a76yiv0256509320MsoNormal"><span lang="DE">Hi,</span></p>
<p class="ydp5c4c4a76yiv0256509320MsoNormal"><span lang="DE"> </span></p>
<p class="ydp5c4c4a76yiv0256509320MsoNormal">there are several gear types on the
flywheel and the gear on the starter needs to match.</p>
<p class="ydp5c4c4a76yiv0256509320MsoNormal">There are pull push types, or push
pull types, the engage flange need to fit and also the
teeth distance and such stuff.</p>
<p class="ydp5c4c4a76yiv0256509320MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="ydp5c4c4a76yiv0256509320MsoNormal">Besides that, those starters are
quite reliable.</p>
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<p class="ydp5c4c4a76yiv0256509320MsoNormal">Cheers</p>
<p class="ydp5c4c4a76yiv0256509320MsoNormal">Chris</p>
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<p class="ydp5c4c4a76yiv0256509320MsoNormal"><b><span lang="DE">From:</span></b><span lang="DE"> Fot <a shape="rect" href="mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net" class="ydp5c4c4a76yiv0256509320moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><fot-bounces@autox.team.net></a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>DENNIS WALJE via Fot<br clear="none">
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 27, 2023 2:48 AM<br clear="none">
<b>To:</b> Amici Triumphi
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DENNIS WALJE <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:walje@sbcglobal.net" class="ydp5c4c4a76yiv0256509320moz-txt-link-freetext" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">walje@sbcglobal.net</a>><br clear="none">
<b>Date:</b> October 26, 2023 at 7:15:07 PM CDT<br clear="none">
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Has anyone had a problem with the Wosp gear
reduction starter? I installed one on a new engine
and after 15/20 starts, the starter spins but does
not engage the ring gear. Battery voltage is 12.60,
engine is properly grounded, all cables, solenoid
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