<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Excellent caution note, thanks!<div class="">I’d always understood that powder coating could hide cracks below the surface - on a frame, for example, just as chroming hides cracks on suspension parts you may want to crack check. Maybe appropriate for a show car, but for a race car, not so good. Is this incorrect? <br class=""><div><br class=""><div class="">On Sep 28, 2023, at 10:31 PM, Joe Boruch via Fot <<a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" class="">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class=""><div class="ydp183ed478yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div class=""></div>
<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">Most of the two part urethane paints are hazardous like Imron. The hardener is isocyanate, which can cause severe allergic reactions when inhaled. Once allergic to it, a person can react to it with every exposure. Isocyanate is the chemical that was responsible for the deaths in the Bopal, India chemical disaster many years ago. Be sure to use a good tight fitting cartridge respirator when spraying these urethanes, but I think most safety instructions say to use a supplied air respirator. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div>
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On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 07:23:56 PM EDT, Jack Wheeler via Fot <<a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" class="">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:
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<div dir="ltr" class="">Hi Joe. When I bought the Imron for my car in 1980, the guy wouldn't sell it to me unless I also bought the respirator he recommended! Strong stuff.</div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br clear="none" class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class="">Jack<br clear="none" class=""></div><div class=""><br clear="none" class=""></div>
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<div class=""><div id="ydp1a7a32ddyiv5935007227ydp9eeb879fyiv2577320890" class=""><div class="">In the 70s we were painting John Deere Tractors in DuPont Imron. What wasn’t done by robots was done by painters in HazMat Suits.<br clear="none" class=""><br clear="none" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Joe Alexander<div class="">4505 Donald Dr</div><div class="">Cedar Falls, IA 50613</div><div class=""><a href="http://The-vintage-racer.com" class="">The-vintage-racer.com</a></div><div class=""><a href="http://Gasketinnovations.com" class="">Gasketinnovations.com</a></div><div class="">Cell: 319.464.4711</div><div class=""><br clear="none" class=""></div></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><div id="ydp1a7a32ddyiv5935007227ydp9eeb879fyiv2577320890yqtfd60849" class="ydp1a7a32ddyiv5935007227ydp9eeb879fyiv2577320890yqt6306304293"><br clear="none" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Sep 28, 2023, at 10:29 AM, Jack Wheeler via Fot <<a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" class="">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br clear="none" class=""><br clear="none" class=""></blockquote></div></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div id="ydp1a7a32ddyiv5935007227ydp9eeb879fyiv2577320890yqtfd04871" class="ydp1a7a32ddyiv5935007227ydp9eeb879fyiv2577320890yqt6306304293"><div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;" class="ydp1a7a32ddyiv5935007227ydp9eeb879fyiv2577320890ydpba2ca5ebyahoo-style-wrap"><div class=""></div>
<div dir="ltr" class="">I don't know if it is even still available, but years ago I painted the frame on my race car with Dupont Imron. It was the most durable paint available at the time, and my experience reflected that. The stuff is very toxic, so you must use a very good respirator.</div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br clear="none" class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class="">Jack<br clear="none" class=""></div><div class=""><br clear="none" class=""></div>
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<div class=""><div id="ydp1a7a32ddyiv5935007227ydp9eeb879fyiv2577320890ydpc738254eyiv2026604046" class=""><div class=""><p class="">Grey will show cracks better than black. POR is the first thing
that came to mind for me, but it's been YEARS since I used it.</p><p class="">Cheers, Tony<br clear="none" class="">
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POR 15. Depending on the color, the number changes. I think
15 is black. Gray is something else, maybe 10. Spray or
brush on. I've used Rustoleum as the touchup rattle spray
cans are perfectly matched to the quart cans, and you can get
it just about anywhere. POR products might be a little more
durable than Rustoleum. If the frame is bare metal, an epoxy
primer is a good start, but with POR I "think" you can skip
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<div class=""> It's been a long time since I've painted a frame and
I'm just wondering what the latest / greatest thing to use
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