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   <span style="font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">I can't recall the size of ARP the bolts in the Carrillo rods I have, but they are the larger of the two different ARP sizes, at least 5/16" maybe 3/8", and are reusable if they haven't been over stretched.  Of course, the rods must also be different than those with the 1/4" bolt design.  I have literature from Carrillo, but I double and triple checked the facts of the fasteners before reusing them.  I called Carrillo too.  The rods were used previously to my acquiring them, with the included bolts.  </span>
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    On 01/25/2023 3:34 PM Barr, Scott via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
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    <p class="MsoNormal">I had the same experience with the dinky little ¼” ARP rod bolts in my Carrillo set.  I had a hard time trusting them.  I did measure them for yield each time I used them, but I mostly went by feel while torquing them up.  There were just times when you could feel them stretch the normal amount and some times when you could feel them streeeeeetch a bit more.  I replaced them at that point, regardless of what the measurements said.  Never had one break in use though, while I did have a 5/16ths ARP rod bolt break in a lightened stock rod.</p>
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      <p class="MsoNormal"><strong>From:</strong> Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net> <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Scott Janzen via Fot<br><strong>Sent:</strong> Wednesday, January 25, 2023 3:42 PM<br><strong>To:</strong> Brad Eells <tr4abrad@gmail.com><br><strong>Cc:</strong> 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot@autox.team.net><br><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Fot] Connecting rod question</p>
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    <p class="MsoNormal">the carillo rods, at least for the GT6 - same, I think as the Spit and the TR6 - do have these dinky little 1/4” bolts. I’ve never had a failure in action, but did overstretch one because I used ARP lube instead of Carillo lube - the arp lube is slicker.  Those bolts cost about $42 each!  I now use the correct lube, measure them before and after I install and uninstall them, etc.  No issues at 7000 rpm, just about every shift.</p>
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       <p class="MsoNormal">On Jan 25, 2023, at 2:48 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <<a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:</p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana-Bold',serif;">I went with Pauter rods for the Spitfire due to the use of a larger rod bolt than Carillo.</span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana-Bold',serif;">Marty Sukey posted some very nasty pictures of his Carillos and a rod bolt failure…good enough for me.</span></p>
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          <p style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana-Bold',serif;">On Jan 25, 2023, at 11:33 AM, Walt Hollowell via Fot <<a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:</span></p>
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           <p class="MsoNormal">I have built a few full race engines for my TR6 using MaxSpeeding connecting rods with acceptable results. For my next build I am considering Carrillo rods which run about $650 more than the MaxSpeeding rods.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
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           <p class="MsoNormal">Do and FOT members feel that the Carrillo rods are worth the extra bucks or should I be happy with the MaxSpeeding considering the affordability?</p>
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           <p class="MsoNormal">Walter Hollowell</p>
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