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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'>I disagree on this, I never ran a shroud. Certainly it does help….but my cooling system is so over the top that I need to run a thermostat to get it to operation temperature or I see 160F.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'>On the photo you see the ready to race configuration.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'>Chris<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=DE style='color:windowtext'>Von:</span></b><span lang=DE style='color:windowtext'> Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net> <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Tony Drews via Fot<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 10. Juni 2022 21:28<br><b>An:</b> fot@autox.team.net<br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Fot] To thermostat or not to thermostat...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p>Radiator shroud intact? That's kind of vital.<o:p></o:p></p><p>Regards, Tony<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 6/10/2022 2:25 PM, Chris Marx via Fot wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Somehow your radiator system is inefficient.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>My TR4 temperature is nailed to 185F and don’t move away from…range maybe from 180 to 190.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I use:<o:p></o:p></p><ol style='margin-top:0cm' start=1 type=1><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'>Good aluminum radiator<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'>Blocked small circuit<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'>Automatic bleeding system<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'>7 blade pump<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'>Smaller drive pulley to lower water pump speed <o:p></o:p></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=DE>Von:</span></b><span lang=DE> Dave Riddle <a href="mailto:Dave@microworks.net"><Dave@microworks.net></a> <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 10. Juni 2022 21:18<br><b>An:</b> <a href="mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com">tr4racing@googlemail.com</a>; 'Philip Gott' <a href="mailto:vfracing@aol.com"><vfracing@aol.com></a><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Betreff:</b> RE: [Fot] To thermostat or not to thermostat...</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Brand new Aluminum Radiator from Wizard and all new hoses </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> <a href="mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com">tr4racing@googlemail.com</a> [<a href="mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com">mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 10, 2022 12:17 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Philip Gott'; Dave Riddle<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> AW: [Fot] To thermostat or not to thermostat...</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Yeah, that was my thought.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Besides that, I use a thermostat in my TR4.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Cheers<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Chris<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=DE>Von:</span></b><span lang=DE> Fot <<a href="mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net">fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Philip Gott via Fot<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 10. Juni 2022 21:07<br><b>An:</b> Dave Riddle <<a href="mailto:Dave@microworks.net">Dave@microworks.net</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Fot] To thermostat or not to thermostat...</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Time to get the radiator flushed.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Jun 10, 2022, at 2:25 PM, Dave Riddle via Fot <<a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I have the thermostat housing open right now and have obtained a new 180 degree thermostat to replace the 180 degree Motorad one that has been in there since the 1990s. The old one I put in a pot and saw it open when I heated the water but It is still suspect. Here in the Phoenix area it is the rare day that we really need to be concerned with ambient temps leading to prolonged engine warm up conditions. Lately I had noticed that when running for prolonged times at Freeway speeds (+75 at 3500 RPM) the temps would quickly reach +230 and if I jumped off the Freeway and moved at surface Street speeds of 45 even with Stop and Go streetlights within a mile or two the temps had dropped back to between 210 and 220.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Should I look at using a 160 degree thermostat or just ditching one altogether?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:blue'><a href="http://www.microworks.net/"><span style='text-decoration:none'><image001.jpg></span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Dave Riddle</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Business IT Consulting<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Office: 480-610-8234<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>eMail: <a href="mailto:dave@microworks.net">dave@microworks.net</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Website: <a href="http://www.microworks.net/">http://www.microworks.net</a><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://partner.microsoft.com/en-US/"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'><image002.png></span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:blue'><a href="https://www.acronis.com/en-us/"><span style='text-decoration:none'><image003.png></span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:blue'><a href="https://www.clio.com/"><span style='text-decoration:none'><image004.png></span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://www.citycommunications.com/"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'><image005.png></span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>_______________________________________________<br><a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a><br><br><a href="http://www.fot-racing.com">http://www.fot-racing.com</a><br><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Archive: <a href="http://autox.team.net/archive">http://autox.team.net/archive</a> <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot">http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot</a><br>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing@aol.com">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing@aol.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://www.fot-racing.com">http://www.fot-racing.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Archive: <a href="http://autox.team.net/archive">http://autox.team.net/archive</a> <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot">http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre></blockquote></div></body></html>