<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I’ve never really understood the passion for aviation permeatex. It’s unpleasant stuff and makes a mess. I think it’s just handy and comes in a big can so once you buy some it’s hanging around in your shop forever. I have a can that’s probably 30 years old—it will probably be around long after I kick. I never use it. <br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 7, 2021, at 11:43 AM, John H. 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We help people file for bankruptcy relief under the federal Bankruptcy Code.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Fot <<a href="mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net" class="">fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Ponostyle via Fot<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Sunday, February 7, 2021 1:23 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Marcel Van Mulders <<a href="mailto:van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be" class="">van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be</a>><br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Frank Fisher <<a href="mailto:yellowtr3@yahoo.com" class="">yellowtr3@yahoo.com</a>>; fot <<a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" class="">fot@autox.team.net</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Fot] [TR] Sealants used on Fo8 gaskets<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">The Japanese motorcycle manufacturers solved the fundamental gasket-enhancement issue long ago, with two products that perform like Hylomar but IMHO are a bit better. Yamaha called them Yamabond #4 and #5. The product is actually made by Threebond, and about every MC company uses them and private labels the stuff, including Ducati. #4 is a heavier consistency and can be used in gasket-less applications. #5 is thin, flexible and non-hardening and works well for coating gaskets. It won’t tear thin paper gaskets during disassembly. Great stuff. <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">On Feb 7, 2021, at 9:45 AM, van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot <<a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class="">Frank, indeed Hylomar is a right sealant and Silicone is not. Hylomar is a not-setting, non hardening product that allows metal to metal contact even when the cylinderhead is torqued down only after one day.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class="">The purpose of the silicone sealants is to form a sheet when cured (by the moisture in the air) and cannot be compressed after some time. The Permatex brand : the brown stuff is ok, but Permatex blue RTV silicone is not. Curing by moisture is slower than anaerobic curing : one could apply silicone to the Fo8 gaskets and torque the cylhead down immediately, but that is taking risks and it is not the intended use of RTV silicone.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class="">Marcel<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class=""><br style="font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; widows: 2; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-thickness: initial; word-spacing: 0px;" class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class=""><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center" id="zwchr" class=""></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class="">Van:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class="">"fot" <<a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">fot@autox.team.net</a>><br class=""><b class="">Aan:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"Triumph List" <<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>>, "fot" <<a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">fot@autox.team.net</a>>, "Dan Cronin" <<a href="mailto:adcronin@mi.rr.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">adcronin@mi.rr.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Verzonden:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Zondag 7 februari 2021 02:30:33<br class=""><b class="">Onderwerp:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [Fot] [TR] Sealants used on Fo8 gaskets<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">hylomar.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">never sets up solid like silicone.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">that means you have time to set the liners and go have a scotch, come back, mess around. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">leave it overnight and take up the task again tomorrow.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">the best gasket dressing ever invented.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Frank<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div id="ydp2984ea6cyahoo_quoted_3384257547" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class="">On Friday, February 5, 2021, 09:52:33 PM PST, Dan Cronin <<a href="mailto:adcronin@mi.rr.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">adcronin@mi.rr.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></p><div class=""><div id="ydp2984ea6cyiv8272376385" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class="">Folks<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class="">Looking for some background information and recommendations on the preferred Fo8 gasket sealing compound that seems to have worked for each of you in your various engine re-builds. And any comments / observations you choose to share either on or off list. The motor I am building has a 89 mm piston and liner kit from BFE along with Corrello rods / bolts and a Crower dummy main crank connected at the front with a ATI Super Damper and at the rear to a Fidanza Alloy Flywheel with diaphragm clutch, an HVDA conversion with alloy drive shaft to a Quaife 4.11:1 diff. and alloy back cover. Stainless Steel valves with 0.050 oversize intake thru Mang. Bronze guides. H/S roller rockers on alloy pedestals. BPNW 270 duration cam. The TR4A head has had 0.040 removed mostly to true things up and remove prior imperfections. The head chambers have been mildly worked to smooth any sharp edges and even things out with a resulting chamber volume of 60.5cc each. I am planning on installing Gasket Works 0.022 copper gasket with their 0.005 “O” compression rings on the head side of the gasket that will be sprayed with a copper coating on each side. Gasket Works sent a set of Fo8 individual gaskets that has allowed me to obtain a liner protrusion of 0.0025 to 0.003. Am aiming at a compression ratio of around 9.75 to 1+/- . 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