<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I live in the Columbia Gorge, one of the windiest inland places on earth. People who don’t live here come and set up their EZ Ups with stakes, buckets of concrete, dirt screws, whatever. If the wind comes up to what we call “nuking” the canopy will wind up somewhere in Idaho. The power of the wind increases as the square of velocity. You could get a Cirque de Soleil style circus tent and a crew of twenty to stake it down, or just take your EZ down. EZ-up--EZ down. If I’m using it as a car cover I lower it and tie it to the roll bar. So far, Peyote hasn’t blown to any nearby states. Nothing i know will prevent the canopy from dumping a bucket of ice cold water down your back when you’re trying to push the water belly out with a broom. <div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 2, 2020, at 1:47 PM, Jim Gray <<a href="mailto:toodamnfunky@comcast.net" class="">toodamnfunky@comcast.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">In many years of motorcross, supercross and car racing I think I’ve gone through about ten of them. Even if you can weight or tie them down enough<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">the lift from the fabric just tears them apart. I pretty much gave up since I bought an enclosed trailer. Now I have the EMT conduit type with fabricated corners<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">that attaches to the trailer like Jason Ostrowski’s. It’s pretty impressive how much wind it can take.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">We get some pretty wicked wind at times along the front range of the rockies.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Jim g<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Fot <<a href="mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net" class="">fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Tony Drews<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, July 2, 2020 2:34 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Bill Dentinger <<a href="mailto:billdentin@aol.com" class="">billdentin@aol.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" class="">fot@autox.team.net</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Fot] Canopy question<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class="">I used to have a cheapie 10 x 20 from Farm and Fleet that was the poles / canopy arrangement. Was a pain to set up but it handled all weather like a champ. I use strong stakes in the ground, don't rely on weights because I live in the land of thunderstorms.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class="">Went to EZ-up brand for ease of setup, but found that it likes to catch the wind more than my prior setup. It doesn't pull the stakes out of the ground but the wind load is a problem for the frame attachment points (this is not the most expensive EZ-up, but not a cheapie), one of them broke and I've taken it down in driving rain concerned about it trying to make itself into something airborn. Also water pools in the canopy. But it's great for shading from the sun. The whole point is to NOT have to go out in the driving rain because of my rain protection. :)<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class="">What I'm hoping for is the durability of what you described but the ease of setup (one person) of the EZ-up. The EurMax is looking promising - it seems like it would help if it had air vents in the dome to release some of the wind load though. Looks to be on sale for a reasonable price at the moment. Still pricey, but probably worth it in the long run.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class="">- Tony<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">On 7/2/2020 3:12 PM, Bill Dentinger wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class="" type="cite"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I always thought the EZ-up Canopy was convenient, looked nice, but was wimpy. Even a flatuance issue could cause a problem.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">We preferred the traditional set up using HD electrical conduit for poles. We had three sets, serving 2, 4, and 6 cars. We used HD stakes (custom made from rebar, with HD washers welded to the side). Serious stuff.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Bill Dentinger<o:p class=""></o:p></p><div id="__aol_mail_signature__" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: HelveticaNeue-Light, serif; color: rgb(148, 148, 148);" class="">Sent from AOL Mobile Mail<br class="">Get the new AOL app:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://mail.mobile.aol.com/" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mail.mobile.aol.com</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">On Thursday, July 2, 2020, Allen Washatko <a href="mailto:awashatko@wi.rr.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><awashatko@wi.rr.com></a> wrote:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><blockquote style="margin-left: 6.75pt; margin-right: 0in;" class="" type="cite"><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">See Paul Ricco<br class=""><br class="">Sent from my iPhone<br class=""><br class="">> On Jul 2, 2020, at 12:30 PM, Tony Drews <<a href="mailto:tony@tonydrews.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">tony@tonydrews.com</a>> wrote:<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Has anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually handle wind and rain?<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Thanks, Tony Drews<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> _______________________________________________<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" style="color: blue; 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