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    <p>I used to have a cheapie 10 x 20 from Farm and Fleet that was the
      poles / canopy arrangement.  Was a pain to set up but it handled
      all weather like a champ.  I use strong stakes in the ground,
      don't rely on weights because I live in the land of thunderstorms.</p>
    <p>Went to EZ-up brand for ease of setup, but found that it likes to
      catch the wind more than my prior setup.  It doesn't pull the
      stakes out of the ground but the wind load is a problem for the
      frame attachment points (this is not the most expensive EZ-up, but
      not a cheapie), one of them broke and I've taken it down in
      driving rain concerned about it trying to make itself into
      something airborn.  Also water pools in the canopy.  But it's
      great for shading from the sun.  The whole point is to NOT have to
      go out in the driving rain because of my rain protection.  :)<br>
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    <p>What I'm hoping for is the durability of what you described but
      the ease of setup (one person) of the EZ-up.  The EurMax is
      looking promising - it seems like it would help if it had air
      vents in the dome to release some of the wind load though.  Looks
      to be on sale for a reasonable price at the moment.  Still pricey,
      but probably worth it in the long run.<br>
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    <p>- Tony<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/2/2020 3:12 PM, Bill Dentinger
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      I always thought the EZ-up Canopy was convenient, looked nice, but
      was wimpy.  Even a flatuance issue could cause a problem.
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      <div>We preferred the traditional set up using HD electrical
        conduit for poles.  We had three sets, serving 2, 4, and 6 cars.
         We used HD stakes (custom made from rebar, with HD washers
        welded to the side).  Serious stuff.<br>
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            2020, Allen Washatko <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:awashatko@wi.rr.com"><awashatko@wi.rr.com></a> wrote:
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