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On May 22, 2020, at 4:16 PM, John Linney <<a href="mailto:john@linneyweb.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">john@linneyweb.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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 right now, but this isn’t over by many means. You can play with the data and make your own mind up. <a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wmur.com%2Farticle%2Fcoronavirus-leading-causes-of-death-in-the-united-states%2F32380058&data=02%7C01%7Csbarr%40mccarty-law.com%7Ca8289f6d24414947a94e08d7feacaa4f%7C5027ac9b577b4efca8a99ee22eb53484%7C0%7C0%7C637257889879490044&sdata=x3yQx1HinFgRUMULGWSRUK6RsYU5KrlwhqOoYPHR0Gc%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">https://www.wmur.com/article/coronavirus-leading-causes-of-death-in-the-united-states/32380058</a>
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<blockquote>On May 22, 2020, at 2:57 PM, J Wagner via Fot <<a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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<blockquote>Then they land and get to ride in a rental car with two or three others to a hotel where they will share a confined space for eight hours or so sucking in the snores of the other occupant.<br>
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<blockquote>rinse, lather and repeat and head back home.<br>
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<blockquote>I get that no one is forcing them to go and that each person must make this choice for themselves.<br>
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<blockquote>I don’t know about the "sky is falling" but casket sales are certainly up this past quarter. Whether or not you think you will get Covid, or you’re not in the high risk group or whatever,
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<blockquote>If you think the numbers are misrepresented then go ahead and chop that number in half… 47, 000 people, in three or four months.<br>
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<blockquote>It is a real concern and YES, people do die everyday but this is about it being CONTAGIOUS. I.E. You making the choice for others. Being hit by lightning is not contagious.
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