<html><head></head><body><div class="ydpea8d9655yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;" dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><div></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Dale,</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">The insurance-required waiver does not seem to be your main issue. All Covid19-related procedures are at the behest of the state and the track owner and are required to be enforced by the sponsoring clubs. No track owner or club can take a chance on being found to operate illegally. None of us have a choice in this matter, there is no negotiation involved (esp. since schedules are overfilled): you can follow track rules or not have an event. If you are going racing this year, you are going to find new constraints everywhere in the country. The <a href="https://vscda.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/2020-Covid-Procedures-FINAL.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">VSCDA</a> Covid document closely mirrors <a href="https://www.scca.com/pages/covid-19-event-guidelines" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="">SCCA</a>, <a href="https://www.mcscc.org/covid-19/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="">Midwestern Council</a>, <a href="https://info.motorsportreg.com/en/covid-19-event-guidelines" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="">AMA </a> and SVRA guidelines. <br></div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Gary<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>
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On Sunday, May 17, 2020, 5:56:27 PM CDT, Dale Oesterle <dale.oesterle@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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<div dir="ltr">I understand and sympathize with the waiver text concern - certainly no insurance company will ever write an under-broad one - but it appears to be ~95% identical to the waiver we've been signing for many years. I had a 2014 BFR form deep in the files and scanned it to the attached PDF, along with the current waiver I just received from BFR Cindy. The footnote "2/09" seems to imply it goes back over a decade. I don't have the text memorized but I believe the RA waiver is the same form.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">I've been a steward for maybe 20 years and our choice as race organizers has always been binary: all sign the waiver or no insurance is provided. The track owners have no more choice in this than we do. Although the language is draconian, it is a given we have accepted to participate in our sport. <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Gary<br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div>
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On Saturday, May 16, 2020, 10:23:16 PM CDT, Dale Oesterle via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
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</div><div><div id="ydp60e9f3b4yiv4290732478ydpb4741896yiv0483641789"><div class="ydp60e9f3b4yiv4290732478yqt6877140378" id="ydp60e9f3b4yiv4290732478yqtfd86508"><div>The waiver is legally over- broad [see, e.g., the “or otherwise language”] hoping a court will scale it back and apply it to the maximum extent the law permits. [see the last section]. It is a drafting trick. Waivers usually cannot a apply to reckless or intentional misconduct (and in some states cannot apply to “gross negligence”). Moreover, the waiver in section 1 gives an immediate defense to all defendants (“releasees”) on the basis that the signer “fe[lt] unsafe” (whatever that means) at some time before any injury and still participated [or did not give notice]. This is a trial lawyer’s delight and, at minimum, will cause defense counsel to delay settlement until the edge of trial, running up litigation expenses, until every statement of the plaintiff pre-injury has been collected and parsed. If you sign this, do not talk to anybody (even in jest) about race or track conditions till your car is on the trailer and off the premises. Other language gives a defense based on your non-disclosure of any virus symptoms; if you cough or have nausea (probably nerves and a crummy hot dog) you had better tell race organizers and they will have no choice but to escort you out. <div><br clear="none"><div dir="ltr">Dale Oesterle<div>- Sent from iPad</div></div><br clear="none"></div></div><div class="ydp60e9f3b4yiv4290732478ydpb4741896yiv0483641789yqt5143785186" id="ydp60e9f3b4yiv4290732478ydpb4741896yiv0483641789yqtfd20543"></div></div><div><div class="ydp60e9f3b4yiv4290732478ydpb4741896yiv0483641789yqt5143785186" id="ydp60e9f3b4yiv4290732478ydpb4741896yiv0483641789yqtfd95746"><div class="ydp60e9f3b4yiv4290732478yqt6877140378" id="ydp60e9f3b4yiv4290732478yqtfd54755"><br clear="none"></div><div><div class="ydp60e9f3b4yiv4290732478yqt6877140378" id="ydp60e9f3b4yiv4290732478yqtfd18545"><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"><blockquote type="cite">On May 16, 2020, at 1:30 PM, John Styduhar via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></blockquote></div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div class="ydp60e9f3b4yiv4290732478yqt6877140378" id="ydp60e9f3b4yiv4290732478yqtfd49240"><div dir="ltr"><div class="ydp60e9f3b4yiv4290732478ydpb4741896yiv0483641789gmail_default"><font size="4">The Blackhawk Farms liability waiver is worth a review and comment by one of our FOT racing attorneys. Not your standard form we never read. </font></div></div><br clear="none"></div><div class="ydp60e9f3b4yiv4290732478ydpb4741896yiv0483641789gmail_quote"><div class="ydp60e9f3b4yiv4290732478yqt6877140378" id="ydp60e9f3b4yiv4290732478yqtfd99389"><div class="ydp60e9f3b4yiv4290732478ydpb4741896yiv0483641789gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 4:43 PM Gary Schneider <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:garygret@sbcglobal.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">garygret@sbcglobal.net</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div></div><blockquote class="ydp60e9f3b4yiv4290732478ydpb4741896yiv0483641789gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;"><div><div class="ydp60e9f3b4yiv4290732478yqt6877140378" id="ydp60e9f3b4yiv4290732478yqtfd65978"><div style="font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div></div>
<div dir="ltr">VSCDA is still planning on the Blackhawk Classic June 19-21. Blackhawk is opening May 30 and I've been in touch with the track and the race chair.</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Also the Midwestern Council Driver's School at BFR is firm for July 4, VSCDA & SCCA participants welcome.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Gary Schneider</div><div dir="ltr">Midwestern Council Chief Steward for Blackhawk Classic<br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div>
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On Friday, May 15, 2020, 2:23:39 PM CDT, John H. Hasty via Fot <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:
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