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Hi Scott,<div><br></div><div>Below is a video shot from inside a closed car, with a gopro suction cupped to the sunroof. I don’t change any settings on the camera from when it’s in (on) my TR4; the camera just “works” without having to worry about light/dark contrast. Might be an issue if you have the camera in the way back, but I’d expect if it’s at swayback distance from the windshield you will have good luck. </div><div><br></div><div>Video is from a GoPro 7 Silver, at 1080p resolution, because I’m cheap and like having lots of video space.</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://youtu.be/Q_WYZH869Yc" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/Q_WYZH869Yc</a> </div><div><br></div><div>On my YouTube page you can see some in car from the Tr4 if you’d like to compare.</div><div><br></div><div>Hope that helps!</div><div>Dave Gott<br><div id="temp-enhancr-placeholder" class="enhancr-placeholder-medium" data-size="medium"></div><br><br><br><a href="https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS">Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone</a><br><br><p class="yahoo-quoted-begin" style="font-size: 15px; color: #715FFA; padding-top: 15px; margin-top: 0">On Friday, January 17, 2020, 11:38 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:</p><blockquote class="iosymail"><div id="yiv6916467620"><div>I’ve been thinking about buying one of these for a while, and John’s email got me to look at the website.<div class="yiv6916467620">GoPro is running a deal on the Hero 8 - marked down $50 to $350, ands offering another $100 off with the trade in of a digital camera. They said they will take my wife’s no-longer-used 7 year old Panasonic point and shoot, so I’m down to $250. Pretty good, though I assume this means they make these things for way less than $100.</div><div class="yiv6916467620"><br clear="none" class="yiv6916467620"></div><div class="yiv6916467620">Here’s the question - Most of the footage I see is from open cars - my GT6 is closed, and does not have a roll cage hoop around the windshield. I’m assuming - maybe wrong - that if I mount it back on the roll bar, the video frame will include a lot of the inside of the tin top, and I’m also wondering if the dark/light contrast will make it difficult for the device to determine what “exposure” to shoot for.</div><div class="yiv6916467620"><br clear="none" class="yiv6916467620"></div><div class="yiv6916467620">Dash mount?, windshield suction cup? rain gutter clamp?</div><div class="yiv6916467620"><br clear="none" class="yiv6916467620"></div><div class="yiv6916467620">Anyone have experience with this with closed cars?</div><div class="yiv6916467620"><br clear="none" class="yiv6916467620"></div><div class="yiv6916467620">Thanks,</div><div class="yiv6916467620">Scott </div><div class="yiv6916467620yqt4914636446" id="yiv6916467620yqt49824"><div class="yiv6916467620"><div><br clear="none" class="yiv6916467620"><div class="yiv6916467620">On Jan 16, 2020, at 5:44 PM, John Linney via Fot <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv6916467620" ymailto="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:</div><br clear="none" class="yiv6916467620Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="yiv6916467620"></div></div></div></div></div><div class="yiv6916467620yqt4914636446" id="yiv6916467620yqt40738"><div><div class="yiv6916467620" style="word-wrap:break-word;">You inspired me to get off my butt and write up a blog post covering camera choice. There will be more on the settings, mounts and creative options to come. For now here it is on choosing a camera.<div class="yiv6916467620"><br clear="none" class="yiv6916467620"></div><div class="yiv6916467620"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv6916467620" target="_blank" href="https://www.classicmotorfilms.com/post/choosing-an-on-car-camera">https://www.classicmotorfilms.com/post/choosing-an-on-car-camera</a></div><div class="yiv6916467620"><br clear="none" class="yiv6916467620"></div><div class="yiv6916467620">For those looking to upgrade - GoPro is running a $100 trade-in promotion on their top cameras - that will last you years. It brings the Hero 8 Black down to $300, or the Hero 7 Black down to $279. </div><div class="yiv6916467620"><br clear="none" class="yiv6916467620"></div><div class="yiv6916467620">-john<br clear="none" class="yiv6916467620"><div class="yiv6916467620"><br clear="none" class="yiv6916467620"><blockquote class="yiv6916467620" type="cite"><div class="yiv6916467620">On Jan 16, 2020, at 9:31 AM, Brian Schirano <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv6916467620" ymailto="mailto:bschirano1@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:bschirano1@gmail.com">bschirano1@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br clear="none" class="yiv6916467620Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="yiv6916467620"><div class="yiv6916467620" dir="ltr" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;">Well.... THAT was a helpful article and explanation, I take quite a bit of comfort that it isn't me, it's THEM, them GoPro people and they have a reason!<div class="yiv6916467620"><br clear="none" class="yiv6916467620"></div><div class="yiv6916467620">Thanks John and others, the only thing I guess is I need to download a stitching app and away I (we) go</div><div class="yiv6916467620"><br clear="none" class="yiv6916467620"></div><div class="yiv6916467620">Brian</div></div><br clear="none" class="yiv6916467620" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;"><div class="yiv6916467620gmail_quote" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;"><div class="yiv6916467620gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 12:08 PM John Linney <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv6916467620" ymailto="mailto:john@linneyweb.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:john@linneyweb.com">john@linneyweb.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none" class="yiv6916467620"></div><blockquote class="yiv6916467620gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex;"><div class="yiv6916467620"><div class="yiv6916467620" dir="ltr">Older GoPros have a maximum file size of 4GB to retain compatibility with older computers being able to read the SD cards. It’s not such a bad thing if your camera fails or the battery dies unexpectedly. At least you have some footage already recorded. This article goes into more detail... <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv6916467620" target="_blank" href="https://www.google.com/amp/s/havecamerawilltravel.com/gopro/gopro-split-video-files/amp/">https://www.google.com/amp/s/havecamerawilltravel.com/gopro/gopro-split-video-files/amp/</a></div><div class="yiv6916467620" dir="ltr"><br clear="none" class="yiv6916467620"></div><div class="yiv6916467620" dir="ltr">I’ll be at Mid Ohio with a bunch of GoPros. Generally speaking, you should think about upgrading if your GoPro is prior to a Hero 5 Black. You will be stunned with the improvement in image quality, stabilization and even audio quality. </div><div class="yiv6916467620" dir="ltr"><br clear="none" class="yiv6916467620"></div><div class="yiv6916467620" dir="ltr">I’ll be putting together an edit of the race. Last years edit used whatever footage I could get so you will see a vast disparity in quality. The TR250K had the most up to date GoPros and you can really tell. </div><div class="yiv6916467620" dir="ltr"><br clear="none" class="yiv6916467620"></div><div class="yiv6916467620" dir="ltr">The race... <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv6916467620" target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/iLo1u5ZjNmI">https://youtu.be/iLo1u5ZjNmI</a></div><div class="yiv6916467620" dir="ltr">TR250K... <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv6916467620" target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/UzLcAUqjZ1A">https://youtu.be/UzLcAUqjZ1A</a> (a great example of GoPro audio in the racing shots if you have a mic shielded from the wind). </div><div class="yiv6916467620" dir="ltr"><br clear="none" class="yiv6916467620"></div><div class="yiv6916467620" dir="ltr">I’ll be putting together recommendations on which camera(s) will work best. I’m also planning on evaluating some 360 degree cameras which will make for some truly awesome creative possibilities, (just a pain to edit). </div><div class="yiv6916467620" dir="ltr"><br clear="none" class="yiv6916467620"></div><div class="yiv6916467620" dir="ltr">-john</div><div class="yiv6916467620" dir="ltr"><br clear="none" class="yiv6916467620"></div><div class="yiv6916467620" dir="ltr">John Linney</div><div class="yiv6916467620" dir="ltr"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv6916467620" target="_blank" href="https://classicmotorfilms.com/">https://classicmotorfilms.com</a></div><div class="yiv6916467620" dir="ltr">408 887 8105</div><div class="yiv6916467620" dir="ltr"><br clear="none" class="yiv6916467620"><blockquote class="yiv6916467620" type="cite">On Jan 16, 2020, at 6:03 AM, Mike Harmuth via Fot <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv6916467620" ymailto="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br clear="none" class="yiv6916467620"><br clear="none" class="yiv6916467620"></blockquote></div><blockquote class="yiv6916467620" type="cite"><div class="yiv6916467620" dir="ltr"><div class="yiv6916467620" dir="ltr">Brian, my Go Pro hero-2 splits up a session into roughly 2 MB files. I believe it related to file system limits. I use some free software, RaceRender, <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv6916467620" target="_blank" href="http://racerender.com/RR3/Download.html">http://racerender.com/RR3/Download.html</a> to join and edit them into one movie. The free version does all of that but has their logo embedded in the final picture. I bought a lifetime licence for something like $50 that allows you to remove the logo and do other stuff, like integrate multiple cameras and data from their smart phone app.<div class="yiv6916467620"><br clear="none" class="yiv6916467620"></div><div class="yiv6916467620">I'm guessing the free Windows Movie Maker program can be used to join them as well, I just find it's slower and the output file is large.</div><div class="yiv6916467620">A short clip using the software to integrate front and rear cameras <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv6916467620" target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/fpYS2zc6-xk">https://youtu.be/fpYS2zc6-xk</a></div><div class="yiv6916467620"><br clear="none" class="yiv6916467620"></div><div class="yiv6916467620">mike h</div><div class="yiv6916467620"><br clear="none" class="yiv6916467620"></div></div><br clear="none" class="yiv6916467620"><div class="yiv6916467620gmail_quote"><div class="yiv6916467620gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 8:20 AM Brian Schirano via Fot <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv6916467620" ymailto="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br clear="none" class="yiv6916467620"></div><blockquote class="yiv6916467620gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex;"><div class="yiv6916467620" dir="ltr">Yes... The Hero cards are very cool<div class="yiv6916467620"><br clear="none" class="yiv6916467620"></div><div class="yiv6916467620">Hmmmm.... an Expert with a GoPro Shawn? I need some help (and I've heard others have the same problem). I have a Hero Black and..... when I remember to turn it ON, somewhere mid race, sometimes twice, it stops then restarts. I end up with multiple files from a 20 or so minute session. I've fiddled with settings but really don't know what I'm doing, just what I can learn from the manual.<br clear="none" class="yiv6916467620"></div><div class="yiv6916467620"><br clear="none" class="yiv6916467620"></div><div class="yiv6916467620">Suggestions?</div><div class="yiv6916467620"><br clear="none" class="yiv6916467620"></div><div class="yiv6916467620">See you there</div><div class="yiv6916467620">Thanks</div><div class="yiv6916467620">Brian</div><div class="yiv6916467620"><br clear="none" class="yiv6916467620"></div></div><br clear="none" class="yiv6916467620"><div class="yiv6916467620gmail_quote"><div class="yiv6916467620gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 9:11 PM Shawn Frank via Fot <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv6916467620" ymailto="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br clear="none" class="yiv6916467620"></div><blockquote class="yiv6916467620gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex;">I won't touch that one... :-)<div class="yiv6916467620" id="yiv6916467620gmail-m_2769966863566850977gmail-m_-180339013037729222gmail-m_3893229166962873825yMail_cursorElementTracker_1579140128206"><br clear="none" class="yiv6916467620"></div><div class="yiv6916467620" id="yiv6916467620gmail-m_2769966863566850977gmail-m_-180339013037729222gmail-m_3893229166962873825yMail_cursorElementTracker_1579140128549">I am really wanting to get a full set of cards signed by everyone if I could. </div><div class="yiv6916467620" id="yiv6916467620gmail-m_2769966863566850977gmail-m_-180339013037729222gmail-m_3893229166962873825yMail_cursorElementTracker_1579140487276"><br clear="none" class="yiv6916467620"></div><div class="yiv6916467620" id="yiv6916467620gmail-m_2769966863566850977gmail-m_-180339013037729222gmail-m_3893229166962873825yMail_cursorElementTracker_1579140487495">May be difficult this year as I'm expecting a full crew of 3 of us again, maybe more and I suspect some of you have seen me at full sprint most of the weekend. </div><div class="yiv6916467620" id="yiv6916467620gmail-m_2769966863566850977gmail-m_-180339013037729222gmail-m_3893229166962873825yMail_cursorElementTracker_1579140501544"><br clear="none" class="yiv6916467620"></div><div class="yiv6916467620" id="yiv6916467620gmail-m_2769966863566850977gmail-m_-180339013037729222gmail-m_3893229166962873825yMail_cursorElementTracker_1579140501833">I'll have my 2 Nikons blazing away and 3 GoPros that may need a ride... we'll do some Facebook Live video, race updates on North American Triumphs Facebook page, VTR's page and of course The Vintage Triumph Magazine coverage. I'm working on expanding to other publications. More on that soon. </div><div class="yiv6916467620" id="yiv6916467620gmail-m_2769966863566850977gmail-m_-180339013037729222gmail-m_3893229166962873825yMail_cursorElementTracker_1579140599702"><br clear="none" class="yiv6916467620"></div><div class="yiv6916467620" id="yiv6916467620gmail-m_2769966863566850977gmail-m_-180339013037729222gmail-m_3893229166962873825yMail_cursorElementTracker_1579140599964">This is getting exciting.</div><div class="yiv6916467620" id="yiv6916467620gmail-m_2769966863566850977gmail-m_-180339013037729222gmail-m_3893229166962873825yMail_cursorElementTracker_1579140465557"><br clear="none" class="yiv6916467620"></div><div class="yiv6916467620" id="yiv6916467620gmail-m_2769966863566850977gmail-m_-180339013037729222gmail-m_3893229166962873825yMail_cursorElementTracker_1579140465840">See you all there!!!<br clear="none" class="yiv6916467620"><br clear="none" class="yiv6916467620"><div class="yiv6916467620" 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