<div dir="ltr">Yup. Tack it together the way you want it and have a certified welder do the final.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 12:16 PM Bill Dentinger via Fot <<a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Tony...<div> </div><div>Your caveat reminds me of an issue VSCDA had in the mid-1980s. “Just because you can afford a Ford GT40, does not mean you can drive one.” We trashed two or three of them at Road America at one event. <br><br>While I stand in awe of those able to do all of their own work satisfactorily, I always tried to hire an expert to do mine, and I would do the things I was good at to earn the money to pay them.</div><div><br></div><div>Bill Dentinger <br><div id="gmail-m_6313133238668531138__aol_mail_signature__"><div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light;color:rgb(148,148,148);font-size:11px">Sent from AOL Mobile Mail<br>Get the new AOL app: <a style="font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light;font-size:11px" href="http://mail.mobile.aol.com" target="_blank">mail.mobile.aol.com</a></div></div>
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On Friday, January 3, 2020, Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot <<a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target="_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:
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If I may interject .... Roll-bars !
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<div>Leave this job to a professional. A correctly designed and built cage / roll bar will pay dividends down the road not only in safety but chassis rigidity and aesthetics.</div>
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<div>Every Racing organization has there own guidelines/ rules ie CSRG requires a maximum of 6 points and absolutely nothing forward of the firewall .... so read your local rules and consult with the technical people within that organization. Start with Svra
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On Jan 3, 2020, at 8:21 AM, John Styduhar via Fot <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target="_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">
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<div style="font-size:small">You can find vintage racing rules for most clubs on their website (VRG, SVRA, VDCA, etc). Some club rules may vary from SCCA. like no rollbar for period correct classes. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 9:12 AM Mike Jackson via Fot <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target="_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">
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You can download the SCCA "General Competition Rules" for free from their website.<br clear="none">
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