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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=DE link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>You did well Tony.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I really don’t understand why people don’t lock their wheels when they spin.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>If the wheels are rolling on a spin the car is doing funny things and nobody can predict where the car will be in a second.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>With locked wheels the car is sliding in direction of inertia.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>See how the F1 drivers do it. They lock the wheels and wait for the car to STAND STILL before they release the brakes.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Most of the worst accidents happen with spinning cars getting T-boned.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The cause for this is no locked wheels until stand still.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I don’t have good examples of myself as I spin rarely but maybe this one:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Cold Tires.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>What I’m doing:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I was at slow speed with no grip on the back end caused by very low temperatures (36F) at the morning. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The back end stepped out and I slammed on the brakes. I saw the front heading for the tire wall. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I found it too expensive to crash the front end so still full on the brakes I released the clutch and gave a sever dip on the throttle with the heal to turn the car against the direction I was coming. Brakes still on full lock until the car stood still. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The situation was to a degree under control. Happily the car was parallel to the wall and didn’t touch by about 10” distance.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRbIEeOSw4Y">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRbIEeOSw4Y</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Chris<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:windowtext'>Von:</span></b><span style='color:windowtext'> Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net> <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Tony Drews via Fot<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 26. Dezember 2019 06:39<br><b>An:</b> fot@autox.team.net<br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Fot] Brake and Clutch to the floor.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p>Another two feet in video - skip to about 2:45. This has nothing to do with the original Overdrive question, but shows how hard braking keeps the car from going in unpredictable directions... Took me a mental second to realize I wasn't going to catch this one, seems like much less than a second watching the video.<o:p></o:p></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFQUYNxwIMI">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFQUYNxwIMI</a><o:p></o:p></p><p><o:p> </o:p></p><p>Cheers, Tony<o:p></o:p></p><p><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 12/25/2019 7:57 PM, marty via Fot wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>If you go to the 6:47 point in this video you can see John showing off the brake and clutch to the floor technique. </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif'>🙂</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><a href="https://youtu.be/uyZNmn-5SpA">https://youtu.be/uyZNmn-5SpA</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Marty<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="98%" align=center></div><div id=divRplyFwdMsg><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Fot <a href="mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net"><fot-bounces@autox.team.net></a> on behalf of John H. Hasty via Fot <a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net"><fot@autox.team.net></a><br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 24, 2019 2:18 PM<br><b>To:</b> David Gott <a href="mailto:triumphsix@yahoo.com"><triumphsix@yahoo.com></a><br><b>Cc:</b> FOT List <a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net"><fot@autox.team.net></a>; Glenn Franco <a href="mailto:brakey6666@gmail.com"><brakey6666@gmail.com></a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] A-Type Overdrive Testing <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Yep...brake & clutch to the floor... also can be wired to disengage ... ask Steve Yott...<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Dec 24, 2019, at 1:50 PM, David Gott via Fot <a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net"><fot@autox.team.net></a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal> Speaking of spinning the OD backwards, which it won’t do, what happens if you spin the car while overdrive is engaged? Probably my biggest concern for running one of these in a race car... I was thinking I’d use it on track and maybe autocross, but I think that is ill advised now that I bring up that question. Has anyone ever spun and rolled backwards, with OD engaged? <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Dave G<br><br><br><a href="https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS">Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xyahoo-quoted-begin><span style='font-size:11.5pt;color:#715FFA'>On Tuesday, December 24, 2019, 12:47 PM, Greg Blake <a href="mailto:gblake58tr3@icloud.com"><gblake58tr3@icloud.com></a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div id="x_yiv0957845862"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>If this is for a race car, you might consider shiming the accumulator spring to get closer to 500psi. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Dec 24, 2019, at 10:51 AM, David Gott via Fot <a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net"><fot@autox.team.net></a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal> I was able to test my overdrive by chucking a 1/2” electric drill on the input shaft and turning the whole transmission. (Make sure to spin the right direction!). Pretty sure I used 4th gear. I was able to determine that my OD pressure is at 350 psi, so I’ll have to shim the spring I guess. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Secondary question; the OD seemed to stick on me, but I did not have a load on the output flange, due to being on the bench; I’m assuming this might be an issue? Or would a load coax the OD to releasing as appropriate?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hopefully I don’t hijack your thread too much!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Dave Gott<br>62 TR4 (“A” type on the bench)<br><br><a href="https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS" target="_blank">Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xyiv0957845862yahoo-quoted-begin><span style='font-size:11.5pt;color:#715FFA'>On Tuesday, December 24, 2019, 11:25 AM, Jack Wheeler via Fot <a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net"><fot@autox.team.net></a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div id="x_yiv0957845862"><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>I have tested overdrives like this for years. My drive motor only spins in one direction, which makes sure the output shaft only spins in the same direction the shaft would be spinning when the car is driven in a forward speed. Therefore, I don't know what would happen if you spun it in the wrong direction.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Jack<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="x_yiv0957845862ydpfd023d29yahoo_quoted_7545444271"><div><div id="x_yiv0957845862yqt71890"><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>On Monday, December 23, 2019, 10:05:53 PM EST, Glenn Franco via Fot <a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net"><fot@autox.team.net></a> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div id="x_yiv0957845862ydpfd023d29yiv2459643629"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Merry Christmas<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Quick Question<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>A friend of mine started testing his A-Type Overdrives by back spinning the output flange (to the prop shaft) with a pulley and electric motor.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>I've seen this done by spinning the transmission INPUT shaft with a pulley and electric motor but not from the rear.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Any chance of damaging the overdrive since the overrunning clutch is only going to spin in the one direction, can it lock up the overdrive?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Thanks in advance<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Glenn<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>_______________________________________________<br><a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target="_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a><br><br><a 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