What you are describing reminds me of the ‘Chicken Shit’ SCCA rules and stuff in the 1970s that actually contributed to the birth (or rapid growth) of Vintage Racing. Many racers said, “ENOUGH!”<div>Bill Dentinger<br><br><div id="__aol_mail_signature__">Sent from AOL Mobile Mail</div>

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    On Saturday, July 27, 2019, Bob Bownes -Seiri via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
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<p class="yiv9757678604MsoNormal">I think at this juncture it’s good to remember that the Indianapolis 500 was once a Formula 1 points race, which is why Ferrari cave over and had a shot at it.</p>
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<div dir="ltr" id="yiv9757678604divRplyFwdMsg"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt;" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Fot <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net">fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> on behalf of JAMES GRAY via Fot <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>><br clear="none">
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 26, 2019 4:57:35 PM<br clear="none">
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] Fw: Jeremy Clarkson explains what's wrong with F1</font>
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Then ban the FIA</p>
<blockquote type="cite">On July 26, 2019 at 1:10 PM "Ross, Lawrence via Fot" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:
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<p>You won't see Indy Cars on F1 tracks.</p>
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<p>The FIA has banned that possibility, unless the Indy Cars run the track in the opposite direction.</p>
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<div id="yiv9757678604ox-1656d580be-divRpF217465" style="direction:ltr;"><span style="color:#000000;font-family:Tahoma;font-size:small;"><strong>From:</strong> Fot [<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net">fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] on behalf of Chris Marx via Fot [<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>]<br clear="none">
<strong>Sent:</strong> Friday, July 26, 2019 1:58 PM<br clear="none">
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<p class="yiv9757678604ox-1656d580be-MsoNormal">Indy Cars, or Champ Cars are a lot more entertaining than F1.</p>
<p class="yiv9757678604ox-1656d580be-MsoNormal">F1 is just a porn show of technic. You can’t say it is racing.</p>
<p class="yiv9757678604ox-1656d580be-MsoNormal">The best car wins.</p>
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<p class="yiv9757678604ox-1656d580be-MsoNormal">Cheers</p>
<p class="yiv9757678604ox-1656d580be-MsoNormal">Chris</p>
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<p class="yiv9757678604ox-1656d580be-MsoNormal"><strong>Von:</strong> Fot <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net">fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>>
<strong>Im Auftrag von </strong>JAMES GRAY via Fot<br clear="none">
<strong>Gesendet:</strong> Freitag, 26. Juli 2019 17:49<br clear="none">
<strong>An:</strong> Terry Stetler <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:TLizzard@msn.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:TLizzard@msn.com">TLizzard@msn.com</a>>; Terry Stetler via Fot <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>>; Henry A. Morrison <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:dos_gusanos@msn.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:dos_gusanos@msn.com">dos_gusanos@msn.com</a>><br clear="none">
<strong>Betreff:</strong> Re: [Fot] Fw: Jeremy Clarkson explains what's wrong with F1</p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Helvetica', sans-serif;color:#333333;">Even though I'm a huge F1 fan I've found Indy car racing to be much more entertaining in the last couple years.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Helvetica', sans-serif;color:#333333;">The cars are more robust and so far there has been what, seven different winners this year ?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Helvetica', sans-serif;color:#333333;">I just wish they would dump the street coarses, never been a fan of street coarses.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Helvetica', sans-serif;color:#333333;">Love to see the Indy cars on some of the F1 tracks.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Helvetica', sans-serif;color:#333333;">jimg</span></p>
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 on behalf of Henry A. Morrison via Fot <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>><br clear="none">
<strong><span style="font-family:'Calibri', sans-serif;">Sent:</span></strong> Thursday, July 25, 2019 9:02:02 PM<br clear="none">
<strong><span style="font-family:'Calibri', sans-serif;">To:</span></strong> fot <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>><br clear="none">
<strong><span style="font-family:'Calibri', sans-serif;">Subject:</span></strong> [Fot] Fw: Jeremy Clarkson explains what's wrong with F1</span></p>
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<p class="yiv9757678604ox-1656d580be-MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-family:'Calibri', sans-serif;color:black;">From:</span></strong><span style="color:black;"> Henry A. Morrison <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:dos_gusanos@msn.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:dos_gusanos@msn.com">dos_gusanos@msn.com</a>><br clear="none">
<strong><span style="font-family:'Calibri', sans-serif;">Sent:</span></strong> Thursday, July 25, 2019 7:00 PM<br clear="none">
<strong><span style="font-family:'Calibri', sans-serif;">To:</span></strong> Jim Gray <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:toodamnfunky@comcast.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:toodamnfunky@comcast.net">toodamnfunky@comcast.net</a>>;
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<strong><span style="font-family:'Calibri', sans-serif;">Subject:</span></strong> Re: [Fot] Jeremy Clarkson explains what's wrong with F1</span></p>
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<strong><span style="font-family:'Calibri', sans-serif;">Subject:</span></strong> [Fot] Jeremy Clarkson explains what's wrong with F1</span></p>
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