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<div> <font size="2">The flywheel has to have locating dowels to maintain concentricity with the clutch housing.</font></div>
<div><font size="2">The dowels don't normally get any shear load on them, they aren't drive-dogs, the bolt clamping force holds it all in place and clamped down tight.</font></div>
<div><font size="2">Yes hard shims, soft can crush down and lose bolt torque after awhile.<br>
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<div><font size="2">If the PP loosens up, the locating dowels won't do much to keep it from coming apart...<br>
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From: John Styduhar via Fot <fot@autox.team.net><br>
To: Van Mulders Marcel <van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be><br>
Cc: fot <fot@autox.team.net><br>
Sent: Fri, May 24, 2019 11:13 am<br>
Subject: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question<br>
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<div class="yiv4493166941gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 10:50 AM van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div>
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<div>Strongest solution is when the area where the feet are located are a bit lower than the friction area of the flywheel : then the PP is strongly located and eventually the shims should be trimmed . When the flywheel is entirily flush, the location of the PP is less secure.</div>
<div>If hard steel shims are used, I think this will not be a weak spot?</div>
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<div><b>Van: </b>"Scott Barr" <sbarr@McCarty-Law.com><br clear="none"><b>Aan: </b>"Phil Gott" <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:vfracing@aol.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:vfracing@aol.com">vfracing@aol.com</a>>, "van mulders marcel" <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be" target="_blank" href="mailto:van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be">van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be</a>>, "fot" <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>><br clear="none"><b>Verzonden: </b>Vrijdag 24 mei 2019 14:56:15<br clear="none"><b>Onderwerp: </b>RE: [Fot] laycock clutch question<br clear="none"></div>
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<div class="yiv4493166941MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;">I’m curious about Glen’s comment on shimming the pressure plate. I’ve done that in this situation, using small thin hardened washers. Seemed to work
fine, but that was a seat of the pants gotta-load-this-thing-tomorrow-and-go-racing sort of fix. Anyone think that solution is a disaster in the making?</span></div>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question</span></div>
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<div class="yiv4493166941MsoNormal">Marcel, Brian;</div>
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<div class="yiv4493166941MsoNormal">I agree with Marcel’s last email. If the fingers point inward, your clutch disc is too thick, indicating that the disc and Pressure Plate are incompatible.</div>
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<div class="yiv4493166941MsoNormal">Best solution is to get a thinner disc or a compatible PP.</div>
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<div class="yiv4493166941MsoNormal">Hope this clears up any confusion.</div>
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On May 24, 2019, at 7:25 AM, <a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be" target="_blank" href="mailto:van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be">van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be</a> wrote:</div>
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<div class="yiv4493166941MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana, sans-serif;color:black;">So we don't agree; maybe, if the fingers end up flat after tightening, it still can be normal, but if they are pointing inwards a bit, it is not correct. You can
made a decision by measuring how much the fingers are moving inward when tightening the bolts : if it is more than 3 mm it is not correct and the feel in the clutch pedal won't be normal eather.</span></div>
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<b>Verzonden: </b>Vrijdag 24 mei 2019 12:19:17<br clear="none">
<b>Onderwerp: </b>Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question</span></div>
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<div class="yiv4493166941MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana, sans-serif;color:black;">Just be sure that the throwout bearing is compatible with the “fingers.” If the fingers are straight the throwout bearing face should be rounded. If the fingers
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<div class="yiv4493166941MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;">just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will
press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right. </span></div>
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