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On Friday, May 24, 2019, 11:43:07 AM EDT, Barr, Scott via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
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<p class="ydpd364bc78yiv9543672198MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">I’m trying to think of a time when I was at this stage of putting the car back together and it HADN’T reached a “moment of desperation” :-)</span></p>
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<p class="ydpd364bc78yiv9543672198MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">With my Spit, I raced a pretty heavy schedule. Running with both VSCDA and Midwestern Council, I could do 10-15 races a year back in the day. So I was
almost CONSTANTLY in thrash mode between April and November. Which might explain some of my more interesting mechanical failures.</span></p>
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<p class="ydpd364bc78yiv9543672198MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> John Styduhar <johnstydo@gmail.com>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 24, 2019 10:24 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Barr, Scott <sbarr@McCarty-Law.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question</span></p>
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<p class="ydpd364bc78yiv9543672198MsoNormal">If I was in a moment of desperation and that is all I had, I would consider using spacers under the PP, but I think it is better to get the correct parts. </p>
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<p class="ydpd364bc78yiv9543672198MsoNormal">On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 8:56 AM Barr, Scott via Fot <<a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p class="ydpd364bc78yiv9543672198MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">I’m curious about Glen’s comment on shimming the pressure plate. I’ve done that in this situation,
using small thin hardened washers. Seemed to work fine, but that was a seat of the pants gotta-load-this-thing-tomorrow-and-go-racing sort of fix. Anyone think that solution is a disaster in the making?</span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 24, 2019 7:32 AM<br>
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<b>Cc:</b> fot <<a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question</span></p>
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<p class="ydpd364bc78yiv9543672198MsoNormal">Marcel, Brian;</p>
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<p class="ydpd364bc78yiv9543672198MsoNormal">I agree with Marcel’s last email. If the fingers point inward, your clutch disc is too thick, indicating that the disc and Pressure Plate are incompatible.</p>
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<p class="ydpd364bc78yiv9543672198MsoNormal">Best solution is to get a thinner disc or a compatible PP.</p>
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<p class="ydpd364bc78yiv9543672198MsoNormal">Hope this clears up any confusion.</p>
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On May 24, 2019, at 7:25 AM, <a href="mailto:van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">
van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be</a> wrote:</p>
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<p class="ydpd364bc78yiv9543672198MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">So we don't agree; maybe, if the fingers end up flat after tightening, it still can be normal, but if
they are pointing inwards a bit, it is not correct. You can made a decision by measuring how much the fingers are moving inward when tightening the bolts : if it is more than 3 mm it is not correct and the feel in the clutch pedal won't be normal eather.</span></p>
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<p class="ydpd364bc78yiv9543672198MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">Van:
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<b>Aan: </b>"Brian Schirano" <<a href="mailto:bschirano@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">bschirano@yahoo.com</a>><br>
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<b>Verzonden: </b>Vrijdag 24 mei 2019 12:19:17<br>
<b>Onderwerp: </b>Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question</span></p>
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<p class="ydpd364bc78yiv9543672198MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">All perfectly normal.</span></p>
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<p class="ydpd364bc78yiv9543672198MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">Just be sure that the throwout bearing is compatible with the “fingers.” If the fingers are straight
the throwout bearing face should be rounded. If the fingers have a crook in them (bent) then the throwout bearing face should be flat.</span></p>
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On May 23, 2019, at 10:23 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot <<a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:</span></p>
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<p class="ydpd364bc78yiv9543672198MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;">just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked.
So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right. </span></p>
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<p class="ydpd364bc78yiv9543672198MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;">am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please</span></p>
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<p class="ydpd364bc78yiv9543672198MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;">Thanks</span></p>
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