<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">FOT,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Large companies in the US have put so much focus on having their employees compete against each other internally that most employees have forgotten who the true competition is… the people that represent other companies.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It would be great if the TR community continues to openly help each other keep the TRs completive against the Volvos, the 356s that sound like formula cars when they rip past (guessing none of them have a single compliant parts on them), MGs, etc.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It would be great if FOT could remain a forum where people could ask questions, get honest answers from those who know, and people did not get smacked by someone who does not agree with them.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It would great if we stayed focused as group to kick ass over the marques that we race against, instead of kicking each others' asses every time a question comes up.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Even in the highly completive world of professional motorsports, the factory works teams that care about their marque's success do a tremendous amount to support privateers on and off the track.   They focus on beating the other marques first.  I have personally witnessed the Porsche factory team hand parts to a privateer at an IMSA race.  All done that so the privateer would start and finish the race successfully.  All done to promote the marques over other marques.  We have a lot of fun at the track when the TRs are all doing great in their respective classes over the other marques in the group.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Have a great labor day weekend and I look forward to seeing a group of fast TRs at RA in a few weeks.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Paul <br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Sep 1, 2018, at 11:02 AM, John Styduhar via Fot <<a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" class="">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">If you really had serious compliance with most group's rules, I would guess half the TR cars would not pass muster.  Let's have fun together.   </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br class=""></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="">On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 9:40 AM Terry Stetler via Fot <<a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" class="">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">



<div class="">


<div class="m_8355303263618601104WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal">Indeed there are Glen.</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Sent from <a href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986" target="_blank" class="">
Mail</a> for Windows 10</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p>
</div>
<hr style="display:inline-block;width:98%" class="">
<div id="m_8355303263618601104divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr" class=""><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" class=""><b class="">From:</b> Fot <<a href="mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank" class="">fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> on behalf of fubog1 via Fot <<a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target="_blank" class="">fot@autox.team.net</a>><br class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b> Saturday, September 1, 2018 7:34:26 AM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b> <a href="mailto:rkramer56@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">rkramer56@gmail.com</a><br class="">
<b class="">Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target="_blank" class="">fot@autox.team.net</a><br class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] 89MM piston question</font>
<div class=""> </div>
</div>
<div class=""><font size="2" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" class="">
<div style="font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 10pt;" class="">
<div id="m_8355303263618601104AOLMsgPart_2_9833cc70-880c-4ad8-a3c6-7dd354e849c9" class=""><font size="2" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" class="">
<blockquote style="border-left:2px solid blue;padding-left:3px" class="">everybody else seems to be using 89.<br class="">
</blockquote>
<div class="">
<div class=""><font size="2" class="">HaHa not everybody, rules say 87mm, there are still a few guys running them (and winning)...<br class="">
</font></div>
<div class=""><font size="2" class="">Glen <br class="">
</font></div>
<br class="">
</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div style="font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 10pt;" class="">-----Original Message-----<br class="">
From: Bob Kramer via Fot <<a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target="_blank" class="">fot@autox.team.net</a>><br class="">
To: van.mulders.marcel <<a href="mailto:van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be" target="_blank" class="">van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be</a>><br class="">
Cc: fot <<a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target="_blank" class="">fot@autox.team.net</a>><br class="">
Sent: Fri, Aug 31, 2018 11:26 pm<br class="">
Subject: Re: [Fot] 89MM piston question<br class="">
<br class="">
<div id="m_8355303263618601104AOLMsgPart_1.2_a86129b9-5eb9-4e6e-bc70-68cf0b670447" class="">
<div class="m_8355303263618601104aolReplacedBody">
<div dir="ltr" class="">I've always used 87 MM due to the rules but everybody else seems to be using 89. The procedures are the same so It'll be the same. I blew a head gasket last time out, compression into the cooling system and blew off the bottom hose. I guess it
 wasn't tight enough, and scuffed two pistons before I could shut it down. </div>
<div class="m_8355303263618601104aolmail_gmail_extra"><br clear="all" class="">
<div class="">
<div class="m_8355303263618601104aolmail_gmail_signature">
<div dir="ltr" class="">Bob Kramer</div>
</div>
</div>
<br class="">
<div class="m_8355303263618601104aolmail_gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 12:43 PM, <span dir="ltr" class="">
<<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be" target="_blank" class="">van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be</a>></span> wrote:<br class="">
<blockquote class="m_8355303263618601104aolmail_gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="">
<div style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" class="">
<div class="">Bob,</div>
<div class="">It is definitely necessary to make that modification to the liners. The relieve should correspond to the shape of the combustion chambers : about 4 mm wide on a 89mm engine.</div>
<div class="">Marcel</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<hr id="m_8355303263618601104aolmail_m_-391070137228553199zwchr" class="">
<div class=""><b class="">Van: </b>"fot" <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target="_blank" class="">fot@autox.team.net</a>><br class="">
<b class="">Cc: </b>"fot" <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target="_blank" class="">fot@autox.team.net</a>><br class="">
<b class="">Verzonden: </b>Donderdag 30 augustus 2018 00:05:43<br class="">
<b class="">Onderwerp: </b>[Fot] 89MM piston question<br class="">
</div>
<br class="">
<div class="">
<div dir="ltr" class="">Do the guys running the 89MM pistons and liners need to relieve the liners to clear the intake valve, or does the extra MM make the difference?<br class="">
<div class="m_8355303263618601104aolmail_gmail_extra"><br clear="all" class="">
<div class="">
<div class="m_8355303263618601104aolmail_m_-391070137228553199gmail_signature">
<div dir="ltr" class="">Bob Kramer</div>
</div>
</div>
<br class="">
<div class="m_8355303263618601104aolmail_gmail_quote">On Tue, </div>
</div>
</div>
<br class="">
_______________________________________________<br class="">
<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target="_blank" class="">fot@autox.team.net</a><br class="">
<br class="">
<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fot-racing.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cfb7e0a419784422ba65f08d610099d2f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636714030802934667&sdata=SWmGSEgBI0WTR%2FLPy2xyAyLox06XFrLP1uOUEEjJQsI%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" class="">http://www.fot-racing.com</a><br class="">
<br class="">
Donate: <a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2Fdonate.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cfb7e0a419784422ba65f08d610099d2f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636714030802934667&sdata=bwtZvpeCDT54Mf386NikjfQm6iL6gSbojCj6LMprugk%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" class="">
http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br class="">
Archive: <a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2Fpipermail%2Ffot&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cfb7e0a419784422ba65f08d610099d2f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636714030803090929&sdata=bGtgg6p9%2FupNqhAQlkI%2FB0nJPSDj7dg31xvI0AOXMUY%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" class="">
http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot</a><br class="">
Unsubscribe/Manage: <a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fautox.team.net%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Ffot%2Fvan.mulders.marcel%40telenet.be&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cfb7e0a419784422ba65f08d610099d2f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636714030803090929&sdata=bBrUpAuO7h8B4XMaxfIeBhXngIWPYAeehbhSW6PQcB0%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" class="">
http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be</a><br class="">
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<br class="">
</div>
</div>
</div>
_______________________________________________<br class="">
<a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target="_blank" class="">fot@autox.team.net</a><br class="">
<br class="">
<a href="https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fot-racing.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cfb7e0a419784422ba65f08d610099d2f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636714030803090929&sdata=E7BslARTM9N9eIGRlESX76OWzXi5EtbuunX103bteG8%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" class="">http://www.fot-racing.com</a><br class="">
<br class="">
Donate: <a href="https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2Fdonate.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cfb7e0a419784422ba65f08d610099d2f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636714030803090929&sdata=MN6FZr9p7o90tMhq9SE93ZuzKDpC3jNDQB7eljZkWag%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" class="">
http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br class="">
Archive: <a href="https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2Fpipermail%2Ffot&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cfb7e0a419784422ba65f08d610099d2f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636714030803090929&sdata=bGtgg6p9%2FupNqhAQlkI%2FB0nJPSDj7dg31xvI0AOXMUY%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" class="">
http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot</a><br class="">
Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fautox.team.net%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Ffot%2Ffubog1%40aol.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cfb7e0a419784422ba65f08d610099d2f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636714030803090929&sdata=9RxAJTlSbhfi1GxRVXAaBQKql1fIj3Xe8Te5AUXq%2Fzc%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" class="">
http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1@aol.com</a><br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
</div>
</font></div>
</div>
</font></div>
</div>

_______________________________________________<br class="">
<a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target="_blank" class="">fot@autox.team.net</a><br class="">
<br class="">
<a href="http://www.fot-racing.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">http://www.fot-racing.com</a><br class="">
<br class="">
Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br class="">
Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot</a><br class="">
Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo@gmail.com</a><br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
</blockquote></div>
_______________________________________________<br class=""><a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" class="">fot@autox.team.net</a><br class=""><br class="">http://www.fot-racing.com<br class=""><br class="">Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html<br class="">Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot<br class="">Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco@att.net<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>