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</head><body><p style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">I meant to send to all. </p><blockquote type="cite">---------- Original Message ----------<br>From: DAVE HOGYE <br>To: Kenneth Knight <br>Date: August 14, 2018 at 12:30 PM<br>Subject: RE: [Fot] Race Seat<br><br>Thanks Ken,<br>I also built a sturdy frame for the seat with a bracket that attaches to the roll bar mounting point, because I read somewhere that the seat frame should have more than floor sheet metal attachment points. <br>Dave H.<blockquote type="cite">On August 14, 2018 at 11:57 AM Kenneth Knight wrote:<br><br><br>All good advice from Dave. On thing to remember in the fit is the cover, it<br>does take a bit of room. If you have a back that is not perfect (go figure<br>a Vintage car driver could have a back problem) Pegasus sells a very dense<br>special foam padding that can be placed under the cover. You can put it<br>under your bony butt and at the small of the back to cushion the shock and<br>pressure from the belts. It can also be used on the sides to make that fit<br>just perfect.<br><br>Underneath the car I have plates that tie that seat into the frame. There<br>are lots of ways to do this but just putting a fender washer under the<br>bracket bolts is NOT enough. Don't forget to tie the back of the seat to<br>roll bar. In an ideal situation that is a bar crossing just about the<br>height of your shoulder blades and this is the perfect mounting spot for the<br>shoulder belts and the seat brace.<br><br>Ken<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Fot [mailto:<a href="mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team">fot-bounces@autox.team</a>.net] On Behalf Of DAVE HOGYE via<br>Fot<br>Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 8:16 AM<br>To: Steven Belfer via Fot; Todd Redmond; Steven Belfer<br>Subject: Re: [Fot] Race Seat<br><br>Good tips and suggestions, Steve.<br>Todd, when I installed my Kirkey Vintage seat, as Steve suggests, I placed<br>the seat low and wore my helmet to take some measurements. I wanted to be<br>below the top of my roll bar and my bar fits under the factory hard top, so<br>the height limit was known and set. <br>I also modified the seat. I needed arm length but less leg length. When I<br>tilted or reclined the back to a comfortable arm length, the seat bottom<br>reduced leg extension needed for full clutch depression. I cut the seat to<br>get more recline without effecting the bottom and leg position. It was an<br>easy modification. I made a aluminum fill plates and had them welded in<br>place. I also moved the steering wheel closer to the dash to give more arm<br>extension. I spent a lot of time getting it all perfect for me. <br>There are optimal leg and arm positions. Bent arms, never fully extended<br>and when the clutch is fully depressed, your leg should not press on the<br>seat bottom and impede movement, but could lightly touch. I learned this in<br>1982 when I bought Bob Bondurant's first book of high performance driving. <br>The Kirkey seats come in different widths. Get one that fits relatively<br>snug. Measure yourself in the seated position. If you have to you can send<br>it back until you get the best fit. <br>I thought the Vintage seat looks best without the head rest, but then you<br>have to build a rest into your roll bar. Of course having the head rest<br>extension solves this issue.<br>I like that the Kirkey seats have a snap-in cover and inexpensive. I also<br>added a little lumbar padding under the cover. <br>Dave H.<br><blockquote type="cite">On August 13, 2018 at 4:02 PM Steven Belfer via Fot</blockquote>wrote:<blockquote type="cite">Hi Todd,<br><br>I fit a Kirkey upright seat in my TR3. I probably had it in and out of</blockquote>there 10 times and had the seat modified a bunch of times to get it right.<br>I also had the cage re-worked to fit the seat and and give me protection on<br>the left-side. I had the Kirkey seat-cover modified at an upholstery shop<br>to fit the changed seat. I also added some custom foam lumbar-support<br>pieces to the seat cover. The trick is to get the seat as low as possible<br>in the car, then lean it back just right for your comfort. Test it while<br>wearing your helmet and Hans device.<blockquote type="cite">~STEVE<blockquote type="cite">On Aug 13, 2018, at 6:05 AM, Todd Redmond via Fot</blockquote></blockquote>wrote:<blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Friends!<br><br><br>I'm looking for recommendations for a race seat for the TR3. <br>What are you using?<br><br><br>Thanks<br>Todd Redmond<br>1958 TR3a<br>_______________________________________________<br><a href="mailto:fot@autox.team">fot@autox.team</a>.net<br><br><a href="http://www.fot-racing.com" rel="noopener" target="_blank">http://www.fot-racing.com</a><br><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" rel="noopener" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot" rel="noopener" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot</a><br>Unsubscribe/Manage:</blockquote></blockquote><a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/steve@artwithcars.com" rel="noopener" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/steve@artwithcars.com</a><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"></blockquote>_______________________________________________<br><a href="mailto:fot@autox.team">fot@autox.team</a>.net<br><br><a href="http://www.fot-racing.com" rel="noopener" target="_blank">http://www.fot-racing.com</a><br><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" rel="noopener" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot" rel="noopener" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot</a><br>Unsubscribe/Manage:</blockquote><a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye@comcast.net" rel="noopener" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye@comcast.net</a><blockquote type="cite"></blockquote>_______________________________________________<br><a href="mailto:fot@autox.team">fot@autox.team</a>.net<br><br><a href="http://www.fot-racing.com" rel="noopener" target="_blank">http://www.fot-racing.com</a><br><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" rel="noopener" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot" rel="noopener" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot</a><br>Unsubscribe/Manage:<br><a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kknight@klaenv.com" rel="noopener" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kknight@klaenv.com</a></blockquote></blockquote></body></html>