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    Yeah, Glen is right. I should have shut up. I did a cost comparison
    a few years ago. Someone was making a Ford 5 speed conversion also.
    The cost was more or less the same, but of course, it depends on how
    much you are going to do yourself. I have heard the Toyota boxes are
    getting scarce also ($550 seems like a lot). Quantum Mechanics does
    (or did) a turnkey A or J type overdrive. He has everything you need
    to convert a Volvo J-type to any of the TR series. I've helped a
    couple of guys do this conversion. Volvo's from the 80's are
    relatively unloved, so a couple years ago I could find the Volvo
    J-types on Ebay for $150. Of course, buying the Volvo overdrive or a
    Toyota 5 speed is just the tip of the iceberg. If you want a turnkey
    deal that you install, you're probably looking at $2500 - $3000
    regardless of the route you go. If you do everything yourself, you
    can probably get by for half that.<br>
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    I've had my TR250 from new and didn't have an overdrive until 5
    years ago. I did a 7,000 mile road trip in it a couple of years ago
    and found all 7 speeds to be useful. Even 2nd OD was nice when stuck
    behind an RV going up a mountain pass.<br>
    <br>
    Like I said, I should have kept quiet, but my point is that I think
    you will find the cost similar regardless of the direction you go.
    It really boils down to what you prefer.<br>
     - Larry<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/19/2018 7:43 AM, Bill Tobin via
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      <p>I dunno larry, I got my conversion from Eaglegate, who was also
        from New Mexico, and it bolted in. Plug and play. Works great,
        shifts smoothly, and  (so far!) reliable.</p>
      <p>Me being me, at the time, '13 I think, I picked up two spare
        transmissions. Celica W58. For about $175 each. A friend with a
        wrecking yard looked them  up yesterday: around $550. No, they
        are not for sale!</p>
      <p>I believe a guy in Kansas City took over Eaglegate. If anyone
        is interested, I could look it up.</p>
      <p>Cheers, Bill<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/18/2018 11:56 PM, Larry Young
        via Fot wrote:<br>
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        I'd rather have an A-type (or even a J) overdrive - 7 gears,
        easier to shift, easier to install, probably less expensive -
        What's not to like? Keep the wife definitely.<br>
         - Larry<br>
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        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/14/2018 4:13 PM, dustin
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          Is the HVDA conversion kit for the Toyota 5 speed still
          available since Herman’s passing?
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          <div>Dusty <br>
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              On Jul 12, 2018, at 8:05 PM, Bobby Whitehead via Fot <<a
                href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" moz-do-not-send="true">fot@autox.team.net</a>>
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                  <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1531450952573_4207">My wife
                    is trying to convince me to keep our 1971 TR6 we've
                    owned for 26 years...mhhhh.... I told her if we did
                    I needed an overdrive or 5th gear...what's the best
                    conversion?</div>
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                  <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1531450952573_4269">Bobby
                    Whitehead</div>
                  <div>Jester's Racing<br>
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