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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">We are a distributor for KFP and have
been involved with their product since they started. Ted<br>
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On 7/10/2018 8:01 PM, Dennis DeLap via Fot wrote:<br>
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<div style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Also
try KFP magnum pads.<br>
Pauric inc. Canton Ohio<br>
330-453-9757</div>
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<hr><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size:
11pt; font-weight: bold;">From: </span><span
style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><a
href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" moz-do-not-send="true">DAVE
HOGYE via Fot</a></span><br>
<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;
font-weight: bold;">Sent: </span><span style="font-family:
Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">7/10/2018 4:41 PM</span><br>
<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;
font-weight: bold;">To: </span><span style="font-family:
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href="mailto:Fot@autox.team.net" moz-do-not-send="true">Friends
of Triumph</a></span><br>
<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;
font-weight: bold;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family:
Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">[Fot] brake pad and
rotor discovery and update</span><br>
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<p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: helvetica, arial,
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Hello Friends,</p>
<p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: helvetica, arial,
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">I have been finding out quite a
bit about the unusual and developing front brake pad, rotor and
caliper issues that I have discovered on my TR3.</p>
<p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: helvetica, arial,
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> </p>
<p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: helvetica, arial,
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">What I found was that the
Carbotech CT-57 pads were causing the problem.</p>
<p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: helvetica, arial,
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> </p>
<p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: helvetica, arial,
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">The supporting or backing plates
of the pads had been ground down at Carbotech, far under the
normal plate width that I measured in 4 other production pads
that I have on hand. Besides that, they were not ground down
squarely.</p>
<p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: helvetica, arial,
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> </p>
<p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: helvetica, arial,
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">This allowed the piston to take
tremendous side load under braking causing the uneven and
diagonal wear pattern in the pads. This also caused the rotor
to contact the caliper as the pads took on heavy uneven wear.</p>
<p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: helvetica, arial,
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> </p>
<p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: helvetica, arial,
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">The slot in the TR6 caliper is
3.095" and the four non-Carbotech pads sets have a plate width
of no less than 3.082". The Carbotech plates have an out of
square measurement of 3.030-3.050". That's as much as .065"
clearance in the caliper slot. </p>
<p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: helvetica, arial,
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">The plates have too much
clearance. I found that a maximum of .010" backing plate to
caliper slot clearance is more normal. One set of pads have
only .005" clearance. </p>
<p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: helvetica, arial,
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> </p>
<p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: helvetica, arial,
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Furthermore, the corners of the
Carbotech plates and pads were ground down far enough that the
lower end of the pads hardly made contact with the caliper slot
allowing more stress on the caliper piston.</p>
<p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: helvetica, arial,
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br>
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<p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: helvetica, arial,
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">I have been going back and forth
with Carbotech on this matter and I will be sending back the
badly worn set along with a brand set that have the same
production issues. I bought the two sets at the same time last
August. </p>
<p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: helvetica, arial,
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br>
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<p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: helvetica, arial,
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">What I found is that any backing
plates that show evidence of sanding or grinding marks should be
measured for proper clearance, but that really, there should be
no sanding or grinding marks...ever.</p>
<p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: helvetica, arial,
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br>
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<p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: helvetica, arial,
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">All of the other pads I have show
no evidence of sanding or grinding marks. The previously shaped
friction pads are cleanly attached to the backing plates and the
backing plate is revealed around the friction material. Only
the backing plate makes contact with the caliper slot. </p>
<p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: helvetica, arial,
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br>
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<p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: helvetica, arial,
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">It looks like I have to find
another race pad supplier. </p>
<p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: helvetica, arial,
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br>
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<p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: helvetica, arial,
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Thoughts?</p>
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sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br>
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<p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: helvetica, arial,
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Dave H.</p>
<p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: helvetica, arial,
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">831-234-4928</p>
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sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br>
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