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<DIV>The axe: No, nothing remains.</DIV>
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<DIV>BUT, presuming the head is a sturdy piece of steel that lasts forever (with
occasional sharpening) while the handle is an item expected to deteriorate over
time and be replaced, as long as you have the head it’s Washington’s axe.
The head is what made it an axe, the handle is just a stick. (But the
replacement handle also has to be a stick, not some modern carbon fiber
piece).</DIV>
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<DIV>Or (upon reading that link) what if G.Washington himself replaced that
handle, then continued to use the axe. And later broke the head and attached a
new one. And continued to use it. Yep, still Washington’s axe. Maybe not the one
he chopped the cherry tree down with, but still his. Even if he replaced only
one part of it, still his. </DIV>
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<DIV>Ditto the TR3 – as long as you have the commission plate and the frame to
which it was attached, anything else that was a replaceable item when Gp. 44 (or
Mims) had it can be replaced. Fenders get crunched, replace it. Motors blow,
replace it. Axles break, replace it. Tullius would have, Mims would have. What
is not replaced in all that is the setup. If the suspension setup is what
Tullius et al did originally, then that’s just repairs/restoration. If you just
slap a stock suspension back on it, it’s no longer what Gp. 44 built. If it was
a stock TR3 (or even someone else’s TR3 racer) that you set up identical to the
Gp. 44 specs, that’s a replica. </DIV>
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<DIV>If I attach a piece that came from Gp. 44 on my car that doesn’t make mine
a Gp. 44 car. But if I get what was once a Gp. 44 car and fix what needs fixing,
still a Gp. 44 car (as long as I don’t change it away from what was originally
the Gp. 44 car ... as long as I don’t attach that carbon fiber handle to GW’s
original axe). </DIV>
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<DIV>When my Spitfire was turned into a race car I painted it in a couple of
Ford colors I liked, but under the hood I kept a small strip of the original
Wedgewood Blue to show what it was originally. If I had the Mims car and found a
piece of the original pink, I think I’d preserve that under some clearcoat to
illustrate what it was originally.</DIV>
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<DIV>--Rocky Entriken</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=fot@autox.team.net>Charly
Mitchel via Fot</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, May 25, 2018 9:52 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=fubog1@aol.com>fubog1</A> ; <A
title=tim@grassrootsmotorsports.com>tim@grassrootsmotorsports.com</A> ; <A
title=fot@autox.team.net>fot@autox.team.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Fot] Group 44 car found</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>So if you have George Washington's axe and the head
falls of and breaks and you replace it and a few years later the handle is
rotten and it breaks and you replace it, is it still Washington's axe?
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial><A
href="http://thomas-galvin.com/blog/george-washingtons-axe/">http://thomas-galvin.com/blog/george-washingtons-axe/</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Charly Mitchel</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>TR6 #44<BR></DIV></FONT>
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<A title=fot@autox.team.net>fubog1 via Fot</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=tim@grassrootsmotorsports.com>tim@grassrootsmotorsports.com</A> ; <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, May 25, 2018 5:45 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Fot] Group 44 car
found</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV><FONT color=black size=2 face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">
<DIV><BR><FONT size=2>"Can this car be saved? Should it be saved? If you
re-body some, or all of it, have you really saved it?" </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Answers-</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>1- Anything can be saved</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>2- YES!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>3- That's the tough one to answer, with no original parts
remaining, it would pretty much be a "recreation".</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Glen</FONT><BR></DIV>
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Message-----<BR>From: Tim Suddard via Fot
<<A>fot@autox.team.net</A>><BR>To: fot
<<A>fot@autox.team.net</A>><BR>Sent: Fri, May 25, 2018 8:18
am<BR>Subject: [Fot] Group 44 car found<BR><BR>
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style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space">And on another note,
two more TR3s have just come into my life. Bill Emery has passed his late
father’s two cars on to me, thinking I might be a good caretaker for them.
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<DIV>After talking to Bill and Bob Tullius, and reading through his dad’s
correspondence I am convinced one of the cars, (the very rough yellow one) is
the Group 44 car that Bob Tullius built for Donna Mae Mims to race in the
1965. I have also found the original red paint and pink paint on the
car.</DIV>
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<DIV>So this brings up some interesting ethical and technical conversations…
(also lots to write about in Classic Motorsports). Can this car be saved?
Should it be saved? If you re-body some, or all of it, have you really saved
it? While I know, from correspondence that some of the Group 44 parts are on
the red car, much of the Group 44 stuff is long gone. <BR>
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