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</head><body><p style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Jack,</p><p style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">The old freeze plug was found last night under my catch tank at the battery tray. It didn't have much of a ding in it</p><p style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">so I suspect it could have been flattened more/better when it was first put in.</p><p style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Last night I was able to clear stuff as required to drill a 1/2" hole in the firewall directly behind the plug.</p><p style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">I already have a length of 1/2" solid round bar, tapered/rounded at the end in the hole just waiting for the new plug to arrive.</p><p style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">The round bar runs right under the dash. I'll be able to knock it in from the cockpit with a 3 pounder.</p><p style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">The car was running better than ever when it went, compression is at 200 psi on all four so at the moment</p><p style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">I don't have any reason to believe there are other problems. No evidence at all of water in the oil or cylinders.</p><p style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">However, once the plug is replaced and running again there will be detailed inspections once it's back up to running temp.</p><p style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">jim g</p><blockquote type="cite">On May 2, 2018 at 8:40 AM Jack Wheeler <jwheeler1947@yahoo.com> wrote:<br><br><div style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><div>Hi Jim. Consider this. Pulling the head may give you the most correct fit, and also may be quicker, all things considered. When I was racing, and had to pull the head at the race track, I could get it off and back on, new head gasket, and nuts torqued, in under an hour. By the time you make clearance under the dash, and drive the plug in, possibly not aligned correctly, I'll bet you will have over an hour invested. Good luck.<br><div><br><div>Jack<br><div><br>PS. have you determined what caused the freeze plug to blow out? The one time I had that happen at the race track, it was the result of a major cylinder head failure. You may be looking at a bigger problem than just the freeze plug.<br></div></div></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div id="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyahoo_quoted_5409054879" class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyahoo_quoted"><div style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; color: #26282a;"><div>On Tuesday, May 1, 2018, 8:53:42 PM EDT, Duncan Charlton via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div id="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420"><div>I used one of those expandable core plugs on a BMW 2002 and left it in for the next 60,000 miles with no sign of leaks.<div class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420"><br class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420" clear="none"></div><div class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420">Duncan<br class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420" clear="none"><div class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420yqt4760220749" id="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420yqt65171"><div><br class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420" clear="none"><blockquote type="cite"><div class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420">On May 1, 2018, at 9:47 AM, William T newman <<a class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420" href="mailto:mnewman@embarqmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">mnewman@embarqmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420Apple-interchange-newline" clear="none"><div class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420"><div class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none;">I've used a neoprene plug at the track to get by until I could pull the head.<br class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420" clear="none"></div><div class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none;">Bill Newman<br class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420" clear="none"></div><div class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none;">#44 GT6<br class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420" clear="none"></div><div class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><br class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420" clear="none"></div><div class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none;">----- Original Message -----<br class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420" clear="none">From: Jim Gray via Fot <<a class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420" href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">fot@autox.team.net</a>><br class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420" clear="none">To: 'Duncan Charlton' <<a class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420" href="mailto:duncan.charlton54@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">duncan.charlton54@gmail.com</a>>, 'fot' <<a class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420" href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">fot@autox.team.net</a>><br class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420" clear="none">Sent: Tue, 01 May 2018 07:44:38 -0400 (EDT)<br class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420" clear="none">Subject: Re: [Fot] Cylinder head freeze plug help<br class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420" clear="none"></div><div class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><br class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420" clear="none"></div><div class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420WordSection1" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><p class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420MsoNormal">Duncan,</p><p class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420MsoNormal">I think that’s where I’m going next, the freeze plug is just about in line with</p><p class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420MsoNormal">the bottom of the dash or close. The good thing is it blew the old plug completely out.</p><p class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420MsoNormal">I just need to knock a new one in.</p><p class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420MsoNormal">I’m pretty sure I can go under the dash and through with a piece of ½ or even ¾” round</p><p class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420MsoNormal">bar about 2’ long which I can scrounge at work.</p><p class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420MsoNormal">I’ll have to remove some stuff but still better than pulling the head.</p><p class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420MsoNormal">jim</p><div class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420"> <br class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420webkit-block-placeholder" clear="none"></div><div class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420"><div class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420" style="border-width: 1pt; border-style: solid none none; border-color: #e1e1e1; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><p class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420MsoNormal"><strong class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420">From:</strong><span class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420Apple-converted-space"> </span>Duncan Charlton <<a class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420" href="mailto:duncan.charlton54@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">duncan.charlton54@gmail.com</a>><span class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420" clear="none"><strong class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420">Sent:</strong><span class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, May 1, 2018 5:36 AM<br class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420" clear="none"><strong class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420">To:</strong><span class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420Apple-converted-space"> </span>fot <<a class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420" href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">fot@autox.team.net</a>>; Jim Gray <<a class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420" href="mailto:toodamnfunky@comcast.net" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">toodamnfunky@comcast.net</a>><br class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420" clear="none"><strong class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420">Subject:</strong><span class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Fot] Cylinder head freeze plug help</p></div></div><div class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420"> <br class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420webkit-block-placeholder" clear="none"></div><p class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420MsoNormal">Can you drill a hole through the firewall and drive it out or yank it out that way?</p><div class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420"><div class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420"> <br class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420webkit-block-placeholder" clear="none"></div></div><div class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420"><p class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420MsoNormal">Duncan</p><div class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420"><p class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420MsoNormal"><br class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420" clear="none"></p><div class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420"><br class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420" clear="none"></div><blockquote><div class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420"><p class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420MsoNormal">On Apr 30, 2018, at 6:57 PM, Jim Gray via Fot <<a class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420" href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:</p></div><div class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420"> <br class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420webkit-block-placeholder" clear="none"></div><div class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420"><div class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420"><p class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420MsoNormal">FoT</p></div><div class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420"><p class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420MsoNormal">I was wondering if anyone has a clever method of putting in a cylinder head freeze plug without removing the head.</p></div><div class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420"><p class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420MsoNormal">I was instructing at our drivers school this past weekend when it blew out.</p></div><div class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420"><p class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420MsoNormal">I may have enough room between the firewall to use a short blunt air chisel</p></div><div class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420"><p class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420MsoNormal">but I have my doubts so if anyone has a better one please let me know.</p></div><div class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420"><p class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420MsoNormal">Thanks as always,</p></div><div class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420"><p class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420MsoNormal">jim g</p></div><div class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420"><div class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420"> <br class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420webkit-block-placeholder" clear="none"></div></div><p class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420MsoNormal"><span class="ox-3666c06a14-ydp7533647cyiv1143896420" style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; 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