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</head><body><p style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Paul,</p><p style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Don't assume the owner was just overwhelmed by the scope of the project. It could be medical or financial reasons.</p><p style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">I believe he spent $5K just for a delivered only Ratco frame. I think I can say he has more than the asking price invested since his car is an IRS as is my own and both share similar parts. It wouldn't take much to delete the disc brakes if one insisted on the originals. Personally I feel bad for the guy to have to bail on such a worthy car.</p><p style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">As far as surprises go, the normal surprises you <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>won't find</em></span> on this car are hidden body rot, bondo'd dents hidden frame rot, cracks, worn out suspension components, worn out motor & shoddy work.</p><p style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">There is a buyer out there for it, they just haven't come along yet.I hope he gets all the money he's asking for it.</p><p style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">jim g</p><blockquote type="cite"><div id="ox-943acb1623" style="word-wrap: break-word;" class="">On March 19, 2018 at 3:18 PM Paul Ricco via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:<br><br>Scott,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Agreed.<div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">That is why when things have been for sale for 2+ years on every site imaginable, we do not even waste our time bidding on them. This thing has had more turns than a door knob at being sold. We have seen for sale just about everywhere in the last 2 years. I find that dealing with sellers like this is just a complete waste of time. $17,000 is a lot of money for an unfinished project of this sort. It has been heavily modified and will never be viewed at the same value as a truly restored car by the collectors who pay a premium for originality. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The surprises are a guarantee. If it were that way to easy to throw it together and go for a ride, the seller would have done it. There is always a reason why people give up on these projects, and they are never telling the entire story when it is for sale as unfinished.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">No doubt it would be a fun car to drive when finished, but it could be an expensive and time consuming ride to get there.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Paul<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite"><div class="">On Mar 19, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot <<a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" class="">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="ox-943acb1623-Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word;" class="">Well, folks, even though this seller did not think so, there appears to be a strong market for unfinished projects. I’m amazed this seller did not take the $17,000 high bid. The gap between what’s here and a finished car is potentially a lot of work and some surprises. <a href="https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1964-triumph-tr4-4/" class="">https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1964-triumph-tr4-4/</a><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br class=""><a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" class="">fot@autox.team.net</a><br class=""><br class="">http://www.fot-racing.com<br class=""><br class="">Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html<br class="">Archive: http://www.team.net/archive<br class="">Forums: http://www.team.net/forums<br class="">Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco@att.net<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></div></div></blockquote><p style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: #333333;" class="default-style"><br> </p><blockquote type="cite">_______________________________________________<br>fot@autox.team.net<br><br>http://www.fot-racing.com<br><br>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html<br>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive<br>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums<br>Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net<br><br><br></blockquote></body></html>