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<p class="MsoNormal">If you ever come across TS 58155E, let me know…</p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 18, 2018 12:43:07 PM<br>
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I realize these old TR2-3 gear boxes are pretty much worthless and I have no use for them. I imagine that they came out of cars at some point for a good reason. </p>
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I'm not sure if the internal components, gears or shafts have any value anyone either. They may be best for scrap.</p>
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A few years ago, I rescued a vast collection of TR parts and spares from being scrapped. There were also a dozen engines, that I tore down for component evaluation. In that mix, I found the original engine to my TR3. That alone was worth my efforts. Old
TS46871E will live again. It was an interesting mechanical forensic project, determining reasons of failure. </p>
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So, I have good blocks and a number of standard cranks standing by.</p>
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On March 18, 2018 at 8:36 AM Bill <Bill@ponostyle.com> wrote:<br>
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They pretty much belong in a barn. There isn’t any way I know of to make then handle even the horsepower they are rated if you drive in a spirited fashion. With a later TR4 or TR6 case and some work or a quaife dog box set you have a prayer, but TR3 not so
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I have at least 10 TR3, no syncro first gear transmissions sitting on a palette in an old barn, if anyone might need one, let me know.</p>
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No overdrives.</p>
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The few TR4A-TR6 boxes that I have are keepers with the one overdrive on a TR3 box that was in my TR2.</p>
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<blockquote type="cite">On March 16, 2018 at 9:55 AM fubog1 via Fot <<a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" class="">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br class="">
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;" class="">The<span style="font-size: small;" class=""> early boxes aren't worth much, they have inherent
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<div style="margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0;" class="">I wish, they're just old stock non OD units. from TR-3's and probably 6's. I think I have about 5. don't "need" any of them.</div>
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<div dir="auto" class="">Henry... any of those gear sets you have happen to be the close ratio TR set? I still use one with an A OD & could use a spare.....<br class="">
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<div style="margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0;" class="">I just can't disagree with this statement more. </div>
<div style="margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0;" class=""> 1. Vintage racing is dying. There are way fewer cars and races than there were in 1986 when I started.</div>
<div style="margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0;" class=""> 2. The newer cars and drivers scarcely know what a road course is. Car culture was different after '72 and especially now, just look at the current Fast and furious movies that sell the current car
culture.</div>
<div style="margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0;" class=""> 3. how many old TR gearboxes from my personal collection would you like to have delivered to your place tomorrow? Or buy some of the ones on ebay for $150, that seems to be the going rate.</div>
<div style="margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0;" class=""> 4. Clubs that accept cars from the 80's are selling out for the entry fee, and in doing so driving me away in the process.</div>
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<div class="ox-10dbcf862a-ox-233499a29a-aolmail_x_x_MsoNormal">It is good to see that other clubs are allowing newer cars into their races. VARA has been doing this for several years so that we could survive, keep the club solvent and the cost of racing reasonable.
The future of vintage racing is an expansion to cars from the 80’s and 90’s, they are long past their prime in other venues, cheap and they bring in new drivers. They are in fact ‘vintage’, like our cars were in the 80’ and 90’s. More important, these are
the guys and gals that lusted for a certain hot car of the that era and now have older kids and the bucks to go racing. Without these folks our sport will pass along with us.</div>
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<div class="ox-10dbcf862a-ox-233499a29a-aolmail_x_x_MsoNormal">The same is true of parts. Much of our equipment is worn out and not maintainable without great cost and effort any longer. Gear boxes are an example. I am down to my last good transmission case
for my dog box. When that goes, or the gear set is toast, I am making the switch to a modern box (same ratios) that I can maintain. Like many of us I have missed races because of transmission failures. Tony runs a Ford 8” because he doesn’t want to get
hurt, and it is bullet proof for racing, even has a weight penalty. A gear box switch is inevitable if we want to keep our cars on track at an expenditure of time and money that makes sense.</div>
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<div class="ox-10dbcf862a-ox-233499a29a-aolmail_x_x_MsoNormal">There are tons of other parts that make engines last longer (and yes they make more power). An old TR motor is nothing but half a Chevy Small Block; those guys spent hundreds of millions developing
motor parts that we can take advantage of. Same is true of blueprinting techniques, there are much better ways to build engines than ‘back in the day’ and if you read a book and learn how to do it the bloody lump lasts twice as long. Last time I had my motor
out I could have put the coated bearings with 25 races on them back in. At 36 races I had <5% leak down on the rings and valves. Started out building the old school way, with old school parts, those days are over as I don’t have the time to spend five days
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<div class="ox-10dbcf862a-ox-233499a29a-aolmail_x_x_MsoNormal">Oil. There is no such thing as cheap racing oil. Modern oil is the best it has ever been and makes the motor last. I had technical help from Lake Speed who is the ‘man’ for Joe Gibbs Driven race
oil. The stuff is $18 a quart but will last 500+ miles in the car (4-6 race weekends). Just change the filter after every race and add on quart, total cost $30.00. I can run all the way down to 27 wt. (mixing) but just run the 30 wt. racing oil even at
+100 degrees in the desert and the oil pressure is always spot on. Tight clearances, light oil and great bearing life, well worth the cost.</div>
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<div class="ox-10dbcf862a-ox-233499a29a-aolmail_x_x_MsoNormal">My point in all of this is that “vintage” racing is changing, both the cars and the people. We are going to have to accept and adapt or slowly see our sport fade. They will
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get us to the track. Besides some of us are just SoCal Hot Rodders at heart with a touch of ‘good ole boy’ NACAR ingenuity. Now I need to get back to work on that 85% scale TR-4 body in aluminum, or possible carbon fiber………..Everyone have a great 2018 season
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