<div><div>Right you are!!! </div><div><br/></div><div><i><font style="color:#333333">Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Droid</font></i></div></div><div class="elided-text">On Mar 11, 2018 11:51 AM, fubog1 via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:<br type='attribution'><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><font color="black" size="2" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">H<font size="2">enry you not only get it, but also touch on one of the main issues.<br />
Yes tire technology has allowed these cars to go a lot faster than was ever intended.<br />
They get faster and more stuff breaks; fix one thing and then the next weak-link fails.<br />
At what point does it end?<br />
Rack & pinion steering, tubular adjustable front suspension, light brake calipers, non-triumph gearboxes, wide rims, big-bore engines, the latest greatest big-$$ rubber, etc, etc, etc; some folks are willing and can afford to take it to the limit, some aren't/cant afford it, especially with trying to stay within some set of rules.<br />
That's why tires are really the biggest equalizer, as difficult as it may be to control nowadays; we really need to level the field.<br />
The other point is that we have to remember that we're VINTAGE racing these cars, not doing ongoing development programs for GT cars...<br />
FWIW<br />
Safety FasTR!<br />
Glen<br />
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<div style="font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica';font-size:10pt;color:black">-----Original Message-----<br />
From: yellow04 via Fot <fot@autox.team.net><br />
To: fot <fot@autox.team.net><br />
Sent: Sun, Mar 11, 2018 11:02 am<br />
Subject: Re: [Fot] Has anybody ran these new brake calipers?<br />
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As the person who innocently started this thread on the subject of the <br />
readily available reproduction steel 16P calipers, a part I can't <br />
construe how anybody could call a cheater part, I'll add my two cents...<br />
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Tire technology moved Vintage Racing to a place that we can't go back <br />
from. Like it or not, in order to keep us safe at the speeds these new <br />
tires allow us to go, you need to get with the program or take your <br />
chances. Even the venerable Hoosier Vintage TD bias ply tire can be <br />
really fast in the right hands and we have proof many cars lost wheels <br />
running Vintage TD's. Safety enhancements were needed, and the gray area <br />
between whats a safety enhancement and a speed enhancement will always <br />
be the heart of the debate.<br />
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As I am now taking care of Old Blue, Bill Dentinger's TR3, a car that <br />
has been considered the most vintage correct TR3 running in the States, <br />
this is an issue I have personally been grappling with. It became <br />
crystal clear to me that to be comfortable running the car at any level, <br />
there were some things they did "back in the day" that just don't cut it <br />
any more. Updating some bits to make sure all the wheels stay on the car <br />
is just common sense. Taking it beyond that, there lies the conundrum... <br />
For what it's worth, under my watch Old Blue will run worm and peg <br />
steering, 87mm bore, a Triumph gearbox, and as many of Bill's original <br />
Triumph Competition Dept. bits as I can. Good fun.<br />
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Henry<br />
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On 2018-03-10 02:18, Tony Drews via Fot wrote:<br />
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> Not sure how a brake question turned into the annual "what is vintage"<br />
> debate - seems late in the season for it this time...<br />
> <br />
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