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</head><body><p style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Yes! I had to shim my rotors because the inside pad would not fit. Total PITA. Shimming the caliper is a breeze with factory shims. </p><p style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"><br></p><p style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">DH</p><blockquote type="cite">On March 7, 2018 at 6:59 PM Charly via Fot wrote:<br><br><br>I have used all sorts of brake pads for my 16p caliper on my 69 TR6, Porterfield, Hawks, LBC, and others from ceramic to semi metallic. I always plan to drill them out, sometimes <br>I get what I think are pads for 16PB, which I think have smaller holes. I've had problems with the height being to tall and not sliding in the caliper, some being different <br>thickness and having trouble inserting them. I always plan to modify them to make them fit, sometimes I've had to reshim the caliper mount to move it over a few thousands to <br>center it. I just think of it as part of making the brakes work. I'm now doing mine twice a year, must be going faster or braking harder!<br>Charly Mitchel<br>TR6 #44<br><br>On Wed 07/03/18 4:21 PM , Brad Eells via Fot <a href="mailto:fot@autox.team">fot@autox.team</a>.net sent:<blockquote type="cite">Hello Amici,<br>Porterfield brake pads in the R4-1 compound were recommended to me. I<br>dutifully ordered a set for my Spitfire.<br>I should mention the car has been upgraded to GT6 brake calipers, the<br>venerable Girling 16P. My TR4 and 4A also use the 16P. I have been<br>buying brake pads for these cars for over 35 years.<br>I have had my calipers rebuilt and purchased new retaining pins as<br>well. The Porterfield pads arrived. I found 2 issues. The pad compound<br>shape was not the same as every pad I have previously purchased or<br>what is shown on Porterfield's website. I also found the retaining<br>pin holes in the puck to be too small. The puck itself is the same<br>general dimension as my original Girling Competition pad and does fit<br>in the caliper but I cannot put the pins through the holes. <br>I simply assumed they had sent pads for the later GT6, the Girling<br>16PB or M16PB that use 3/16" retaining pins.<br>8 Emails with manager, Wendy and 1 phone call with engineer Tim and we<br>still have a disagreement. I was told they had sold that exact pad<br>"for 25 years" for my application and no one had ever had a problem or<br>complained. When I asked why I couldn't simply have what was shown<br>on their website as the pad for the 16P, I was told that was just a<br>general illustration and not correct for any specific application. <br>They have offered to drill out the retaining pin holes to fit my pins.<br>I am honestly disappointed that I simply can't have what fits out<br>of the box and to have to argue the point back and forth through<br>multiple Emails and a terse phone call.<br>So, my questions to those of you running a 16P (late TR3 through early<br>TR6 and GT6 1968-72 along with many other British applications) are:<ol start="1"><li>Are you using Porterfield pads in your calipers?</li><li>Have you found them to fit the standard 1/4" retaining pin?</li><li>If you have found them to not fit the pins, are you drilling them</li></ol><br>out yourself?<ol start="4"><li>Does the difference in pad shape concern you at all (photo</li></ol><br>attached)?<ol start="5"><li>If not Porterfield, then what are you using? Without divulging any</li></ol><br>speed secrets, of course...<br>I'm close enough to their facility that I can appear there with my<br>pins, pads and calipers to prove what they disbelieve...it just<br>shouldn't have to come to that with a reputable company from my<br>view... <br>Your thoughts and experience are appreciated.<br><br><br>Thanks!<br><br>BRAD EELLSCHINO CA#35 DP 1962 TRIUMPH TR4#76 FP 1969 TRIUMPH SPITFIRE<br>MK31965 TRIUMPH TR4A IRS...FOR THE ROAD!</blockquote><br>_______________________________________________<br><a href="mailto:fot@autox.team">fot@autox.team</a>.net<br><br><a href="http://www.fot-racing.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.fot-racing.com</a><br><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br>Forums: <a href="http://www.team.net/forums" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/forums</a><br>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye@comcast.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye@comcast.net</a><br></blockquote></body></html>