<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">FOT,<div><br></div><div>I just pulled my circa 1971 fuel cell out of the Spitfire. It looked amazingly good, even after sitting for 42 years.</div><div><br></div><div>Thankfully dimensions haven’t changed in all that time, an ATL SA108 will fit perfectly in the custom box built 47 years ago.</div><div><br></div><div>Mark, expect my call!<br><br><div id="AppleMailSignature">Brad Eells<div>Sent from my iPhone</div></div><div><br>On Feb 27, 2018, at 10:15 AM, Bill Dentinger via Fot <<a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><font color="black" size="2" face="arial">
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<div>I started vintage racing in 1980. At the time the Vintage Sports Car Drivers Association (VSCDA) was a stickler on being 'era correct'. They wanted race cars in their grids to be 'just like the manufacturer built them. I think the first time I raced with Sportscar Vintage Racing Association (SVRA), they required a fuel cell. In an effort to keep the car looking era correct, I had a custom fuel cell built into the stock fuel tank behind the TR3's 'rear seat'. Doing so was not particularly expensive, and it avoided chopping up the floor of the boot. Of course, packaging and shipping was an issue. If I remember correctly, I did have to send it back twice (down through the years) when Tech Inspectors asked to have it re-certified. Again, the packaging and shipping issues, were greater than the recertification costs.</div>
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<div>And, of course, as time went by, the VSCDA had to change its position on race car preparation. There were clear safety issues to consider, plus most other sanctioning bodies were far more liberal in what was allowed and what was not. VSCDA had to do likewise, if it expected to attract entrants.</div>
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<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D">If they still make the same cell and such you usually can buy just the bladder with fill plate. In my case they have changed sizing as mine was form 1978 so I got to start over.
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<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:timmmurphh@gmail.com">timmmurphh@gmail.com</a> [<a href="mailto:timmmurphh@gmail.com?">mailto:timmmurphh@gmail.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 27, 2018 10:00 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Fot] Fuel Cells</div>
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<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal">Good info! Our cell is 10 years old and it’s on my list to check. Curious, is it just as easy and cost effective to just replace the entire unit, can and all, or is it an easy enough job just to open up the can and only replace the cell.
I’m not too concerned about the cost, 10 years on the unit isn’t bad, about $40 bucks a year I think. Considering all the other racing costs, that’s pretty good. Darn motel rooms are just about $150 a night now, no matter where you go!</div>
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<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal">Thanks,</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 26, 2018 1:27 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> [Fot] Fuel Cells</div>
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<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">To all for a safe 2018 Race Season:</span></div>
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<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Just a thought that ALL of you need to consider.
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<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">I bought a 1972 Spitfire race car about 7 years ago out of the CT area. Decent runner and such and have been having a good time with it. At the last event of 2017 it sort of felt “flat” checked all the normal
stuff and just assumed she had a tired engine. </span></div>
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<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">As I always do at year end I siphoned all the race gas out of her that I can to let her rest on empty over the winter. When I did that I got a lot (and I mean a LOT) of red fibers in my 6 gallon jug. Didn’t
worry much about it as it was months to race season. Well time is near so I got out in the garage Saturday and started to check the ATL fuel cell out. As usual you can’t see in the damn things especially if you are over 50 and lighting a match is a bad idea
for extra light LOL!! So I pulled the multi bolt ring off the top of the cell. Guess what it’s full of, NOTHING at all. Well it did have one lump of foam left about the size of a softball, in the rest of the bladder was sludge of red fibers in some left over
race fuel. No wonder the car was running flat, every line and filter is chocked up with cell material.
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<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">So what to do, pull the entire thing out and see what can be done. When I got it all out and drained and cleaned up a bit I found the manufacturer ID label on the bladder, guess when it was built 19 frigg’in
78!!! The race gods have plainly been protecting the stupid as I haven’t had an accident where I needed the cell, thank goodness. Basically I had a steel can with a 40 year old plastic bladder in it and that is all. I guess the upside is now I know the car
has history back to 1978 anyway HA HA!</span></div>
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<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">So my point in boring you all (and or letting you have ammunition to annoy me at the track) is check your dang fuel cell. I stated to think about it, the newest cell I got is approximately 9 years old and
I never mess with them. Out of sight out of mind so they say. I have preached to others on safety and safety equipment and here I am being this dumb. </span></div>
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<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">So I just got off the phone with ATL and they are setting my diesel performance business up as a dealer for cells as we have had some customers have asked for fuel cells in the past in diesel race trucks.
I am getting one for myself ASAP, if any of you are as dumb as I am and see that you have neglected your fuel cell to the point mine is, call me we’ll help you out on a new one.
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<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">MOSTLY PROTECT YOURSELF AND THE CAR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</span></div>
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