<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">My GT6 has a welded rear end. I get virtually all my braking done in a straight line and then am easing on the gas almost immediately in most turns. That pushes the rear end out and steers the car.<div class="">So, definitely the tires slip, and you can see it from the gummy rubber on them after a run, front and rear. However, on tighter turns, at a certain point if I push it too far, yep, the rear end just comes around. Usually you know when it is coming, but on certain turns or perhaps when this driver is not looking for the signs, it’s been known to happen. Generally not once they are up to temp though.</div><div class="">I have heard the Hoosiers are grippier cold, and no question I need two laps at speed to get full grip.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div><div class="">On Nov 9, 2017, at 9:40 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot <<a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" class="">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class=""><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px;" class=""><div class=""><div class="">Thanks guys, all looks positive for the Toyos. What is this rumor I had heard a couple of times that they stick good, but when they let go you're gone. Is this what you are talking about Scott? I can get a little drift out of the TDs on my GT.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks for the input.</div><div class="">Brian<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="ydpce7f8e46signature"><div class="">26A GT6+, 28 TR6</div>Brian Schirano<br class="">585-305-0349 Cell <br class=""><a href="mailto:BSchirano@yahoo.com" class="">BSchirano@yahoo.com</a></div></div>
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On Thursday, November 9, 2017, 9:20:26 PM EST, Scott Janzen <<a href="mailto:sjanzen@me.com" class="">sjanzen@me.com</a>> wrote:
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<div class=""><div id="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586" class=""><div class="">I’ve run the R888s for years; this year am running the R888Rs, which seem slightly faster and more predictable. If you find R888s at this point they have probably been on the shelf since 2016.<div class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586">The tires wear incredibly well and are consistent.</div><div class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586">I’ve always been tempted to try the Hoosiers, just for comparison, but what has deterred me are camber settings. The R888s on my GT6 like about 2.5 degrees of negative camber or more, and I’m told the bias plies only want 1 degree or less. </div><div class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586">Thus, comparative sessions are impractical, and switching is a real commitment.</div><div class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586"><br clear="none" class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586"></div><div class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586">I’ve watched similar cars running on the track with the two types of tires, and my impression of Spridgets, at least, is that on TDs there is a lot more drift in the turns than with the radials. That said, and I am sure that there are differences between the cars and drivers, there are top three Spridgets in VRG on both types of tires. Of course, they have a solid axle in the rear, so the Toyos may not be operating under ideal conditions on those cars. When I talked to Toyo they recommended 2.5-3 degrees of negative camber (even though their website says 1-3).</div><div class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586"><br clear="none" class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586"></div><div class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586">I also hear the radials last longer, though my impression of the R888s is that after 15 heat cycles or so, they lose a little grip and lap times creep up slightly. However, seat of the pants says that is less the case with the new R888Rs.</div><div class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586"><br clear="none" class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586"></div><div class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586">No question the toyos are cheaper - $144 at tire rack, versus $183 for the TDs at Woodman.</div><div class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586"><br clear="none" class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586"></div><div class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586">No recent experience with the RA1s.</div><div class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586"><br clear="none" class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586"><div class=""><div class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586yqt2602767425" id="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586yqt42729"><div class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586">On Nov 9, 2017, at 4:14 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot <<a shape="rect" class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586" href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:</div><br clear="none" class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586"><div class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586"><div class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586" style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px;"><div class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586" style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px;"><div class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586">Hey Guys (and any women out there?)</div><div class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586"><br clear="none" class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586"></div><div class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586">OK, thinking about Toyo Proxes for my GT6 next year. 205/60x13. I run Hoosier TD S's right now and have always. looking for opinions on these options, all three are VRG approved for my car. Also anything you can warn me about or <span class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586" style="font-family:'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif;font-size:16px;">advice </span> for switching from bias ply to radials? Just trying to get educated at the moment, I see a lot of guys running these but have heard some bad experience stories about spins from the learning curve or handling differences</div><div class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586"><br clear="none" class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586"></div><div class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586">R888R</div><div class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586">R888</div><div class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586">RA1</div><div class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586"><br clear="none" class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586"></div><div class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586">Thanks</div><div class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586">Brian</div><div class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586"><br clear="none" class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586"></div><div class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586ydp29abd893signature"><div class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586">26A GT6+, 28 TR6</div>Brian Schirano<br clear="none" class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586">585-305-0349 Cell <br clear="none" class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586"><a shape="rect" class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586" href="mailto:BSchirano@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">BSchirano@yahoo.com</a></div> </div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br clear="none" class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586"><a shape="rect" class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586" href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a><br clear="none" class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586"><br clear="none" class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586"><a href="http://www.fot-racing.com" class="">http://www.fot-racing.com</a><br clear="none" class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586"><br clear="none" class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586">Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html<br clear="none" class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586">Archive: http://www.team.net/archive<br clear="none" class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586">Forums: http://www.team.net/forums<br clear="none" class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586">Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com<br clear="none" class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586"><br clear="none" class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586"><br clear="none" class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586"></div></div></div><br clear="none" class="ydp654cb640yiv8118331586"></div></div></div></div>
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