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From: Scott Janzen via Fot <<a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" class="">fot@autox.team.net</a>><br clear="none" class="">
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<div class="ydp4271df17yiv8270214324aolReplacedBody" style="word-wrap:break-word;">I’ve run the R888s for years; this year am running the R888Rs, which seem slightly faster and more predictable. If you find R888s at this point they have probably been on the shelf since 2016.
<div class="">The tires wear incredibly well and are consistent.</div>

<div class="">I’ve always been tempted to try the Hoosiers, just for comparison, but what has deterred me are camber settings.  The R888s on my GT6 like about 2.5 degrees of negative camber or more, and I’m told the bias plies only want 1 degree or less. </div>

<div class="">Thus, comparative sessions are impractical, and switching is a real commitment.</div>

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<div class="">I’ve watched similar cars running on the track with the two types of tires, and my impression of Spridgets, at least, is that on TDs there is a lot more drift in the turns than with the radials.  That said, and I am sure that there are differences between the cars and drivers, there are top three Spridgets in VRG on both types of tires.  Of course, they have a solid axle in the rear, so the Toyos may not be operating under ideal conditions on those cars.  When I talked to Toyo they recommended 2.5-3 degrees of negative camber (even though their website says 1-3).</div>

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<div class="">I also hear the radials last longer, though my impression of the R888s is that after 15 heat cycles or so, they lose a little grip and lap times creep up slightly.  However, seat of the pants says that is less the case with the new R888Rs.</div>

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<div class="">No question the toyos are cheaper - $144 at tire rack, versus $183 for the TDs at Woodman.</div>

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<div class="">No recent experience with the RA1s.</div>

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<div class="">On Nov 9, 2017, at 4:14 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class="">OK, thinking about Toyo Proxes for my GT6 next year. 205/60x13. I run Hoosier TD S's right now and have always. looking for opinions on these options, all three are VRG approved for my car. Also anything you can warn me about or <span style="font-family:'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif;font-size:16px;" class="">advice </span> for switching from bias ply to radials?  Just trying to get educated at the moment, I see a lot of guys running these but have heard some bad experience stories about spins from the learning curve or handling differences</div>

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<div class="">Thanks</div>

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<div class="">26A GT6+, 28 TR6</div>
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