<div dir="ltr">the shorter ARP bolts are 350-2802.....you don't have to grind the end of the bolt</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 4:36 PM, Barr, Scott via Fot <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target="_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"><< </span>Don't you guys use steel inserts in those flywheel holes?<span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"> >><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">Nope – I’ve always used them as supplied. And so long as I remembered to check the clearance for the radius under the head, it’s been fine. Frankly, I always wondered about why it was OK to torque the flywheel
bolts down onto a relatively soft aluminum flywheel, but bad to use a steel washer – which was almost certainly harder. But I’ve always used Loctite on the flywheel bolts: mostly red, though sometimes blue.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">Scott (B.)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Scott Janzen [mailto:<a href="mailto:sjanzen@me.com" target="_blank">sjanzen@me.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 05, 2017 3:28 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Barr, Scott <sbarr@McCarty-Law.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:timmmurphh@gmail.com" target="_blank">timmmurphh@gmail.com</a>; Steve Yott <<a href="mailto:tr4@wi.rr.com" target="_blank">tr4@wi.rr.com</a>>; STEPHEN BOROWSKI <<a href="mailto:biznzman@pacbell.net" target="_blank">biznzman@pacbell.net</a>>; FOT <<a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target="_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>><span><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] TR4 ARP Flywheel Bolts Question<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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On Jun 5, 2017, at 7:55 AM, Barr, Scott via Fot <<a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target="_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">This is what it looks like if you forget to chamfer the flywheel holes to clear the radius under the head.</span>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Fot [<a href="mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank">mailto:fot-bounces@autox.<wbr>team.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>timmmurphh--- via Fot<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, June 04, 2017 5:53 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Steve Yott' <<a href="mailto:tr4@wi.rr.com" target="_blank">tr4@wi.rr.com</a>>; 'STEPHEN BOROWSKI' <<a href="mailto:biznzman@pacbell.net" target="_blank">biznzman@pacbell.net</a>>;
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] TR4 ARP Flywheel Bolts Question<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for the clarification Steve, that makes sense.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Steve Yott [<a href="mailto:tr4@wi.rr.com" target="_blank">mailto:tr4@wi.rr.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, June 4, 2017 4:56 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Fot] TR4 ARP Flywheel Bolts Question<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The reason they state to not use washers is they are afraid that the washers used will (1) not be hard enough and will compress under the bolt head and (2) all ARP bolts have very liberal radii between the head and shank. If there is a
tight fitting washer this would be strain on this radius and could break the head.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The 7/16” ARP bolts used on Chevy flywheels is what I fit to TR’6, late Spitfires and modified TR4 cranks. These bolts come with the special washers to use with them. I have used a proper washer under the 3/8” ARP bolts many times with
no problems using a correct washer. You can also use an ARP crown wheel bolt for the same purpose and these come with proper washers.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Fot [<a href="mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank">mailto:fot-bounces@autox.<wbr>team.net</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, June 04, 2017 1:59 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] TR4 ARP Flywheel Bolts Question<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">FWIW<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I just got a set of ARP 206-2802 flywheel bolts from Pegasus for the TR4. They are for “BMC A series”. The instruction specifically says, “DO NOT USE ANY WAHERS”, yes, all in caps for emphasis! They further state that ARP will not be
responsible for failures is washers are used. The instructions also say, “Make sure there is an adequate chamfer under the bolt holes on the flywheel to clear the radius under the head of the bolt.” Torque is 55 Ft-Lb with specified lubricants on the threads.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’ve never had that much good luck grinding the ends of bolts and still having it square so as not to start it cocked and runing the female threads. Maybe it’s just me<span style="font-family:"Segoe UI Symbol",sans-serif">😊</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Fot [<a href="mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank">mailto:fot-bounces@autox.<wbr>team.net</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 2, 2017 3:28 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> [Fot] TR4 ARP Flywheel Bolts Question<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Does anyone have experience using the ARP flywheel bolts sold by Moss and others?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;font-size:10pt">I understand that you may have to shorten the bolt or it breaks the rear seal???</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Are they supposed to have a washer or not?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Thxs. Steve</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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