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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>> I've seen the starter type that <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Duncan</st1:place></st1:City> is referring to. The high torque<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>> starters sold for the TR's work as Bill describes<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>Sorry, but I disagree. I'm fairly intimate with that area, as
I've had trouble with it and I have several of those starters. The Denso
design, lightweight gear drive starters commonly sold as aftermarket
replacements for TR2-8 and Stag all have a rod on the base of the solenoid
plunger, which reaches through the housing and pushes the drive gear out before
the contacts make contact.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>I couldn't find a good diagram just now, but you can see the pin here<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'><a href="https://goo.gl/EYZjWG">https://goo.gl/EYZjWG</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>There is a bearing ball down there, because the gear turns but the
solenoid plunger does not. I discovered the hard way that if you leave
out the ball (must've fallen out at some point and got overlooked), the gear
doesn't extend far enough and may or may not engage with the ring gear. Started
out working about 99% of the time, but as the rod wore (from riding against the
gear), it got more and more unreliable until I had to investigate.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>The Lucas starters don't work as Bill described either. The
earlier ones with the inertia (aka Bendix) drive don't have integral solenoids
at all. The later ones with the integral solenoid use the solenoid to
engage the gears. Here's a diagram from the TR6 workshop manual.
That offset pin on the left is actually used to adjust how far the gear extends
(although later starters dropped the adjustment feature). The round
housing behind the pinion is just a roller clutch (so the starter motor cannot
be overdriven when the engine starts), it doesn't move the gear.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'><img border=0 width=641 height=328 id="_x0000_i1025"
src="cid:image001.jpg@01D2A64E.D4C92E60"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>That integral solenoid draws a healthy wallop of current at first,
which was my main reason for keeping a secondary solenoid (or relay if you
prefer). It's much better able to handle the 20 or 30 amps than the puny
contacts in the starter switch. Plus, I like having the original starter
button under the hood, so I can crank the motor from there. For many pre-computer
Mopar products, it also allows the use of a safety interlock switch that
returns to ground.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>-- Randall <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>56 TR3 TS13571L daily driver<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>71 Stag LE1473 - awaiting engine rebuild<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>71-2-3 Stag - awaiting gearbox rebuild<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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