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<p>I looked into at one time, for exactly those reasons. I knew an autocrosser
in St. Louis</p>
<p>who had done that on his home built open wheel car, but eventually decided
not to</p>
<p>go that route. I can't remember why though - possibly just lazy...</p>
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<p>John<br><br>On Tue, 12 Jul 2016 13:40:03 -0500, Dustin Nicholson
<nicholsondustin@yahoo.com> wrote:</p>
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<div>Anyone ever consider an electric water pump? I don't know much about them
but it seems you'd get a constant flow rate regardless of engine speed, maybe
even an adjustable speed with a reostat. Plus you'd gain back lost HP. Some of
our cars started life running 5 accessories on a belt (alternator, fan, smog
pump, A/C compressor, and water pump). I'm down to only running the water pump
off my belt, would be nice to have no belt at all!</div>
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<div>From: Bill Babcock <ponobill@gmail.com></div>
<div>Date: 7/11/16 5:22 PM (GMT-06:00)</div>
<div>To: MadMarx <tr4racing@googlemail.com></div>
<div>Cc: fot@autox.team.net</div>
<div>Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 Water temperature</div>
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Yes, outlet temperature of the block is lower, outlet temperature of the
radiator is higher. Delta-T across the radiator is lower. Think of it this way,
Q (heat transfer) is stable at some operating point. The excess heat from the
engine is equal to the heat removed from the radiator. Ignore the heat transfer
coefficient for the moment.
<div class="">So Q for radiator = mass x (Tin-Tout) and Q for engine is mass x
(Tout-Tin). Q and M is the same for both engine and radiator and Tin of = Tout
of engine, likewise Tout of radiator = Tin of engine.</div>
<div class=""> </div>
<div class="">Obvious, right. So hold everything stable and increase flow rate.
Obviously Tin-Tout must decrease as does Tout-Tin. The operating temperature
will depend solely on the temperature drop across the radiator. If you and a
lower operating temp at that Q you need a lower Tout of the radiator. </div>
<div class=""> </div>
<div class="">If you increase engine load and RPM, the mass flow rate increases
with RPM, but not linearly since it’s a centrifugal pump. Slip gets worse with
RPM. The high flow rate system has a lower delta-t across the engine, but also
has a lower delta-t across the radiator. Temperature will likely climb higher
than with a lower flow rate system (depending on where you measure it, but heat
transfer rate is lower, so you might reach a point where it’s inadequate to
meet the engine demand. then Tout climbs quickly and shit happens. </div>
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<div class="">On Jul 11, 2016, at 2:48 PM, MadMarx <<a class="" href="mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com" target="">tr4racing@googlemail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; font-family: Helvetica;
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<div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="" lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt;
font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: #1f497d;"><span class="" lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: #1f497d;">I
think alot depends on where the system finds ist balance point.</span></span>
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<div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="" lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt;
font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: #1f497d;"><span class="" lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: #1f497d;">If
more flow removes heat quicker from the engine maybe the outlet temperature of
the block is lower?</span></span>
<p class=""> </p>
</div>
<div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="" lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt;
font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: #1f497d;"><span class="" lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: #1f497d;">So
the difference of the radiator outlet might not be so much of a
problem?</span></span>
<p class=""> </p>
</div>
<div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="" lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt;
font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: #1f497d;"><span class="" lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: #1f497d;">The
water stays shorter in the block and don’t pick up that much
temperature?</span></span>
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'Times New Roman', serif;">
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'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="" lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt;
font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: #1f497d;"><span class="" lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color:
#1f497d;">Interesting thing to test.</span></span>
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<div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="" lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt;
font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: #1f497d;"><span class="" lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color:
#1f497d;">Cheers</span></span>
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<div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="" lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt;
font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: #1f497d;"><span class="" lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color:
#1f497d;">Chris</span></span>
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<div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
'Times New Roman', serif;"><strong class=""><span class="" style="font-size:
10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">Von:</span></strong><span class="" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><span class="" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Bill Babcock [<a class="" style="color:
purple; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:ponobill@gmail.com" target="">mailto:ponobill@gmail.com</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><strong class="">Gesendet:</strong><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Montag,
11. Juli 2016 23:41<br class=""><strong class="">An:</strong><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>MadMarx<br class=""><strong class="">Cc:</strong><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Mordy
Dunst;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a class="" style="color:
purple; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be" target="">van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be</a>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a class="" style="color: purple;
text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target="">fot@autox.team.net</a><br class=""><strong class="">Betreff:</strong><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Fot]
TR8 Water temperature</span></span>
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<div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
'Times New Roman', serif;">Well, you’ll need to get comfortable with a higher
no-load temperature, because the radiator outlet temperature will be high.
<p class=""> </p>
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<div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
'Times New Roman', serif;">Two factors to consider: Heat, which is the amount of
energy transferred, and temperature, which relates to heat transfer only in
terms of the differential temperature. Slow speed means less mass flow and
therefore less heat transfer but a higher differential temperature across the
radiator, high speed means more heat transfer but less differential temperature
across the radiator.
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<div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
'Times New Roman', serif;">On Jul 10, 2016, at 2:54 PM, MadMarx <<a class="" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com" target="">tr4racing@googlemail.com</a>> wrote:
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<div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif;">Hi Mordy,</span>
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<div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span>
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<div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="" lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">there are two theories about cooling and
water flow.</span>
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<div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="" lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span>
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<div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
'Times New Roman', serif; text-indent: -18pt;"><span class="" lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">1.</span><span class="" lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 7pt;"> <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Slow speed of the
water in the radiator to give the water time to cool. That means slowing
down</span>
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<div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
'Times New Roman', serif; text-indent: -18pt;"><span class="" lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">2.</span><span class="" lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 7pt;"> <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">The other theory sais
maximizing the flow, no restriction, high coolant speed.</span>
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<div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="" lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span>
<p class=""> </p>
</div>
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<div class="">
<div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="" lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">In a way I prefer the 2<sup class="">nd</sup><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>way. And I’ll
test this version in the coming weeks. I’ll remove the restrictors and see
what happens.</span>
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<div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="" lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span>
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</div>
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<div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="" lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Cheers</span>
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<div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="" lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Chris</span>
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<div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
'Times New Roman', serif;"><a target="" name="_MailEndCompose"></a><span class="" lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;"> </span>
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<div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
'Times New Roman', serif;"><strong class=""><span class="" style="font-size:
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Von:</span></strong><span class="apple-converted-space"><span class="" style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Mordy Dunst [<a class="" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:gasket.works@gte.net" target="">mailto:gasket.works@gte.net</a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><strong class="">Gesendet:</strong><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Sonntag,
10. Juli 2016 22:45<br class=""><strong class="">An:</strong><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a class="" style="color: purple;
text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com" target="">tr4racing@googlemail.com</a>;<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a class="" style="color: purple;
text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be" target="">van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be</a><br class=""><strong class="">Cc:</strong><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a class="" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target="">fot@autox.team.net</a><br class=""><strong class="">Betreff:</strong><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Fot] TR8 Water temperature</span>
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<div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
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<div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
Arial, sans-serif;">Chris your the engineer....<br class=""><br class="">Heat
produced vs heat removed. There will be a steady state at some point. You
would like it lower. Don"t underestimate the headgasket component of
channeling coolant flow. In the TR4 motor i made the coolant holes different
than original to allow the mass flow of water to occur from the rear of the
motor forward. I also put a pressure gauge on my coolant. If the pressure
is too low it will not cool as efficiently either. I don"t know what the
coolant dwell time with in the head needs to be to in order to adsorb the heat
generated. Nor the dwell time in the radiator. There certainly calcs for all
this stuff. <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
Arial, sans-serif;">MDunst<br class=""><a class="" style="color: purple;
text-decoration: underline;" href="http://headgasket.com/" target="">Headgasket.com</a><br class="">626.628.3777 F<br class="">Triple R
Munitions, Inc<br class="">626.201.9471 T<br class="">FFL 6,7 SOT 2<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="" lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">-----Original Message-----<br class="">From:
MadMarx <</span><span class="" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial,
sans-serif;"><a class="" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com" target=""><span class="" lang="EN-US" style="color: windowtext;">tr4racing@googlemail.com</span></a></span><span class="" lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial,
sans-serif;">><br class="">To: 'Marcel Van Mulders' <</span><span class="" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><a class="" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be" target=""><span class="" lang="EN-US" style="color:
windowtext;">van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be</span></a></span><span class="" lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">>;
'MadMarx' <</span><span class="" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial,
sans-serif;"><a class="" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com" target=""><span class="" lang="EN-US" style="color: windowtext;">tr4racing@googlemail.com</span></a></span><span class="" lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial,
sans-serif;">><br class="">Cc: fot <</span><span class="" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><a class="" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target=""><span class="" lang="EN-US" style="color: windowtext;">fot@autox.team.net</span></a></span><span class="" lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">><br class="">Sent: Sat, Jul 9, 2016 8:21 pm<br class="">Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 Water
temperature</span></p>
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<div id="AOLMsgPart_1.2_dc1d0451-f169-48f2-a7f8-1097a48363d1" class="">
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<div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="" lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">I have a 160F thermostat installed.</span>
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<div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="" lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Next test will be without any restrictions,
maximum flow and see how it goes with that.</span>
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<div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
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font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Chris</span>
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<div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
'Times New Roman', serif;"><strong class=""><span class="" style="font-size:
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Von:</span></strong><span class="apple-converted-space"><span class="" style="font-size: 11pt;
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[<a class="" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be?" target="">mailto:van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be</a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><strong class="">Gesendet:</strong><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Samstag,
9. Juli 2016 13:01<br class=""><strong class="">An:</strong><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>'MadMarx' <<a class="" style="color:
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Arial, sans-serif; color: blue;">My diesel BMW runs always at 100°C/212°F when
hot. What coolant thermostat is in it? If the T° is steady at 212°F, perhaps
it is intentionally done so with a 212° thermostat.</span>
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sans-serif;">Van:</span></strong><span class="apple-converted-space"><span class="" lang="NL" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma,
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font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">Fot [<a class="" style="color: purple;
text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank">mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><strong class="">Namens<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></strong>MadMarx<br class=""><strong class="">Verzonden:</strong><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>donderdag 7 juli 2016 19:21<br class=""><strong class="">Aan:</strong><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>'FOT List'<br class=""><strong class="">Onderwerp:</strong><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>[Fot]
TR8 Water temperature</span>
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font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: #1f497d;">My TR8 is running way too hot
about 212F at full speed and at idle the temps are getting that high also. I
have no idea to get them down.<br class="">Radiator core is 68x48cm x 5 cm. I
suppose that should be enough. I've experiment with different restrictor plates
with no change. Changing pump speed didn't help either. The difference between
radiator in and outlet is 10°C (50F). Not enough I would say. Maybe making the
pump more slower? It was running on a ratio of 0.8 slower than crank, currently
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