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Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com"><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext'>tr4racing@googlemail.com</span></a></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>><br>To: 'Marcel Van Mulders' <</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="mailto:van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be"><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext'>van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be</span></a></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>>; 'MadMarx' <</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com"><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext'>tr4racing@googlemail.com</span></a></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>><br>Cc: fot <</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net"><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext'>fot@autox.team.net</span></a></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>><br>Sent: Sat, Jul 9, 2016 8:21 pm<br>Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 Water temperature<o:p></o:p></span></p><div id="AOLMsgPart_1.2_dc1d0451-f169-48f2-a7f8-1097a48363d1"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I have a 160F thermostat installed.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Next test will be without any restrictions, maximum flow and see how it goes with that.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Chris</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Von:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> Marcel Van Mulders [<a href="mailto:van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be?"><u><span style='color:blue'>mailto:van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be</span></u></a>] <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Samstag, 9. Juli 2016 13:01<br><b>An:</b> 'MadMarx' <<a href="mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com"><u><span style='color:blue'>tr4racing@googlemail.com</span></u></a>><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net"><u><span style='color:blue'>fot@autox.team.net</span></u></a><br><b>Betreff:</b> RE: [Fot] TR8 Water temperature</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue'>My diesel BMW runs always at 100°C/212°F when hot. What coolant thermostat is in it? If the T° is steady at 212°F, perhaps it  is intentionally done so with a 212° thermostat.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue'>Marcel</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=NL style='color:black'><hr size=5 width="100%" align=center></span></div><div style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=NL style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>Van:</span></b><span lang=NL style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> Fot [<a href="mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank"><u><span style='color:blue'>mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net</span></u></a>] <b>Namens </b>MadMarx<br><b>Verzonden:</b> donderdag 7 juli 2016 19:21<br><b>Aan:</b> 'FOT List'<br><b>Onderwerp:</b> [Fot] TR8 Water temperature</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Hi guys,</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>My TR8 is running way too hot about 212F at full speed and at idle the temps are getting that high also. I have no idea to get them down.<br>Radiator core is 68x48cm x 5 cm. I suppose that should be enough. I've experiment with different restrictor plates with no change. Changing pump speed didn't help either. The difference between radiator in and outlet is 10°C (50F). Not enough I would say. Maybe making the pump more slower? It was running on a ratio of 0.8 slower than crank, currently 1:1 speed. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Any ideas? 10 Liters are circulating.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Cheers</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Chris</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>_______________________________________________<br><a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net"><u><span style='color:blue'>fot@autox.team.net</span></u></a><br><br><a href="http://www.fot-racing.com" target="_blank"><u><span style='color:blue'>http://www.fot-racing.com</span></u></a><br><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank"><u><span style='color:blue'>http://www.team.net/donate.html</span></u></a><br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" target="_blank"><u><span style='color:blue'>http://www.team.net/archive</span></u></a><br>Forums: <a href="http://www.team.net/forums" target="_blank"><u><span style='color:blue'>http://www.team.net/forums</span></u></a><br>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gasket.works@gte.net" target="_blank"><u><span style='color:blue'>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gasket.works@gte.net</span></u></a><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></body></html>