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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=DE link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hi Duncan,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>To answer your questions:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>      </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I measure about the same what is measured at the head outlet. The gauge is mechanical and I’ve put the probe in boiling water and had read 210F. I think this is okay with being 200 meters above see level.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>      </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The radiator core is new and came in at year 2014. I’ve also measured over the whole core temperatures and they are very even. It is also clean from outside.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>      </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I do always my best to remove air.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>4-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>      </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>With the fan blowing the temperature is creeping up more and more. Fan blows in the right direction<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The impeller of the waterpump has a metal plate so it should be independent of any distance to the housing.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The car had these temperatures already when I drove it at Road America. So this is not a new thing on the car, I just want to cure it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Chri<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'></span><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Von:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Duncan Charlton [mailto:duncan.charlton54@gmail.com] <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Samstag, 9. Juli 2016 13:51<br><b>An:</b> MadMarx <tr4racing@googlemail.com><br><b>Cc:</b> FOT List <fot@autox.team.net><br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Fot] TR8 Water temperature<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Chris,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>212F at idle?  That’s interesting.  I’ll start with the usual questions: <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>1) What is the temperature you recorded at the radiator inlet?  (Having observed this, I assume you have already confirmed that the gauge is reading correctly.)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>2) Is the radiator clean, inside and out?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>3) Have you confirmed that there is not an air bubble trapped in the system?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>4) Temperature at idle remains this high even with the cooling fan blowing?  If so, is the fan blowing the right direction?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I don’t know whether the following applies to the Rover motor you’ve got, but some Morgan owners with Triumph motors have found that the impeller of their new water pump is improperly placed on its shaft so that there is a large gap between the impeller and the housing, causing it to be very inefficient.  One guy measured 0.075” end clearance, which he was able to reduce to 0.015” by use of a spacer.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Duncan Charlton<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Elgin, Texas USA<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Jul 7, 2016, at 12:20 PM, MadMarx <<a href="mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com">tr4racing@googlemail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Hi guys,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>My TR8 is running way too hot about 212F at full speed and at idle the temps are getting that high also. I have no idea to get them down.<br>Radiator core is 68x48cm x 5 cm. I suppose that should be enough. I've experiment with different restrictor plates with no change. Changing pump speed didn't help either. The difference between radiator in and outlet is 10°C (50F). Not enough I would say. Maybe making the pump more slower? It was running on a ratio of 0.8 slower than crank, currently 1:1 speed.<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Any ideas? 10 Liters are circulating.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Cheers</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Chris</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>_______________________________________________<br></span><a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:purple'>fot@autox.team.net</span></a><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><br><br></span><a href="http://www.fot-racing.com/"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:purple'>http://www.fot-racing.com</span></a><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><br><br>Donate:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:purple'>http://www.team.net/donate.html</span></a><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><br>Archive:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><a href="http://www.team.net/archive"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:purple'>http://www.team.net/archive</span></a><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><br>Forums:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><a href="http://www.team.net/forums"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:purple'>http://www.team.net/forums</span></a><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><br>Unsubscribe/Manage:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:purple'>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNorma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