<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div>Hi,</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1463482849402_40958"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1463482849402_40959">I never did find the missing dip stick tube, but I played around a bit with random bits in the shop and was able to take a 5 in length of 3/8" bundy tube and make it fit. I had to turn the section that fits into the block down to .350 or so for a sloppy fit and then JB welded the tube to the proper height. I finished it off with a 37 degree flare at the open end for a good seal with the dip stick.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1463482849402_41679" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1463482849402_41680" dir="ltr">No more excuses now. The engine is less than an hour of futzing 'till I drop into the car.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1463482849402_41926" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1463482849402_41927" dir="ltr">C ya,</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1463482849402_41928" dir="ltr">Bob Lang<br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1463482849402_40957"><span></span></div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div style="display: block;" class="yahoo_quoted"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font face="Arial" size="2"> On Saturday, May 14, 2016 1:45 AM, Bud Rolofson <levilevi@comcast.net> wrote:<br></font></div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv6097675981"><div><div>My Spit did it too. I got the meatball flag so many times from oil on the headers that it was ridiculous. Got so I'd look for it every lap. </div><div id="yiv6097675981AppleMailSignature"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yiv6097675981AppleMailSignature">At first I tried a spring to hold the dipstick down tight in the tube but it still leaked. Then I tried to cap the dipstick tube with a silicon plug and a silicon cap and held with a clamp but that leaked too. </div><div id="yiv6097675981AppleMailSignature"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yiv6097675981AppleMailSignature">The solution on my engine was not with the just the tube or dipstick it was in venting the engine better on both the top and bottom end and adjusting the spring load of the split on the dipstick.</div><div id="yiv6097675981AppleMailSignature"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yiv6097675981AppleMailSignature">I added a 1 inch ID hose venting the oil pan at the old mechanical fuel pump opening and added a 1/2 inch ID hose to the valve cover so along with the stock existing 3/8 inch hose on the valve cover I ended up with 1 7/8 inches of hose vented to the required catch tank.</div><div id="yiv6097675981AppleMailSignature"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yiv6097675981AppleMailSignature">I also bent the split on the dipstick so that it was harder to pull out of the tube and I replaced the felt gasket.</div><div id="yiv6097675981AppleMailSignature"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yiv6097675981AppleMailSignature">Extreme venting and spreading the dipstick cured the oil out the dipstick problem on my engine and probably has helped avoid pushing oil out other places. Plus the engine isn't having to overcome any buildup of bypass gas pressures on the bottom. I hope. </div><div id="yiv6097675981AppleMailSignature"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yiv6097675981AppleMailSignature">Nice that the dipstick is still there for checking the oil and I don't have to go look for it.</div><div id="yiv6097675981AppleMailSignature"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yiv6097675981AppleMailSignature">Plus I haven't seen the meatball flag in awhile.</div><div id="yiv6097675981AppleMailSignature"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yiv6097675981AppleMailSignature">Bud Rolofson</div><div id="yiv6097675981AppleMailSignature"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Sent from my Commodore 64</div><div class="yiv6097675981yqt9302399786" id="yiv6097675981yqt75540"><div><br clear="none">On May 13, 2016, at 6:46 AM, Barr, Scott <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:sbarr@mccarty-law.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:sbarr@mccarty-law.com">sbarr@McCarty-Law.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<div class="yiv6097675981MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Yep, my Spit engines did the same to me (sans flames, in my case, so far as I know). They all have plugs instead of dipstick tubes and I have a square drive
socket and specific length extension and shorty ratchet which work perfectly to pull the plug and check the oil whether the header is red hot, cold or in between.</span></div>
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<div class="yiv6097675981MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">But yeah, we were talking about a TR6 originally – other side and without the crank shooting oil up the tube with every revolution…</span></div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 12, 2016 7:45 PM<br clear="none">
<b>To:</b> Jason Ostrowski <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:jason@multivintage.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:jason@multivintage.com">jason@multivintage.com</a>><br clear="none">
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] TR6 Dip Stick Tube</span></div>
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<div class="yiv6097675981MsoNormal">Long. Long ago ,(1992 ) My 1147. With accusump could pump oil up the dipstick tube. </div>
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<div class="yiv6097675981MsoNormal">Raise the dipstick it's self and blow back on the header wrap. Where it would burn off like a wick.</div>
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<div class="yiv6097675981MsoNormal">Corner workers thought they saw fire ( they did ) but it was out by the time I got back to pit lane. </div>
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<div class="yiv6097675981MsoNormal">It took two sessions to discover that.</div>
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<div class="yiv6097675981MsoNormal">It is interesting to sit in pit lane . Engine running. </div>
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<div class="yiv6097675981MsoNormal">Blocking all speech and watching my one man crew argue with the pit marshal </div>
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<div class="yiv6097675981MsoNormal">To not discharge the dry extinguisher as there was no fire. And even more amazing how compleat the lack of air is when that power cloud hits you !</div>
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<div class="yiv6097675981MsoNormal">The quick fix at the track was to plug the dipstick hole , and free up more breather space. </div>
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<div class="yiv6097675981MsoNormal">I only check it when the pipes are cold. I can learn things. After a while. </div>
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<div class="yiv6097675981MsoNormal">It's been 25 years now that plug works great<br clear="none">
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On May 12, 2016, at 5:55 PM, Jason Ostrowski <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:jason@multivintage.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:jason@multivintage.com">jason@multivintage.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class="yiv6097675981MsoNormal">So, it has nothing of the sort in the way.</div>
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<div class="yiv6097675981MsoNormal">Anyway, Like I said "to each his own"</div>
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<div class="yiv6097675981MsoNormal">Both options allow for the hole to be closed and the oil to be checked.</div>
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<div class="yiv6097675981MsoNormal">I love them both the same.</div>
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<div class="yiv6097675981MsoNormal">On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 3:39 PM, Rocky Entriken <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:rocky@spitfire4.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:rocky@spitfire4.com">rocky@spitfire4.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class="yiv6097675981MsoNormal"><span style="">Is it a race car? Of course it requires tools. there’s all kinds of things you simply never bother with on a street car (or leave to the mechanic) for which you need/want tools
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<div class="yiv6097675981MsoNormal"><span style="">That dipstick tube is a street car item (and the stock exhaust manifold is not in the way). My race car has headers (which
<u>are</u> in the way), an oil cooler, Accusump, remote oil filter, baffled pan, an oil pump with a filter screen, exterior (steel-braided) plumbing a street car does not have (and which has its own special wrenches), and 7.5 quarts of not-street-legal synthetic
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<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:steve@artwithcars.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:steve@artwithcars.com" title="steve@artwithcars.com">
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<div class="yiv6097675981MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke;"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">Sent:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"> Thursday, May 12, 2016 10:27 AM</span></div>
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<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:rjl@gt-classics.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:rjl@gt-classics.com" title="rjl@gt-classics.com">
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<div class="yiv6097675981MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke;"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">Cc:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">
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Robert Lang</a> ; <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" title="fot@autox.team.net">
FOT List</a> ; <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:rocky@spitfire4.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:rocky@spitfire4.com" title="rocky@spitfire4.com">
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<div class="yiv6097675981MsoNormal"><span style="">Really? It seems to be a pretty good invention in its designated place. Checking the oil level shouldn't require tools.
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On Wed, 11 May 2016 21:44:49 -0500, Rocky Entriken <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:rocky@spitfire4.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:rocky@spitfire4.com">rocky@spitfire4.com</a>> wrote:</span></div>
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<div class="yiv6097675981MsoNormal"><span style="">All you need is a plug. Best kind is one where the hex head is actually smaller than the plug, so you can reach it with a socket extension and remove it easily when the headers
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<div class="yiv6097675981MsoNormal"><span style="">My dipstick is a toolbox item. My two race engines have the dipstick tubes removed ... on purpose.</span></div>
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<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:robertlangtr6@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:robertlangtr6@yahoo.com" title="robertlangtr6@yahoo.com">
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<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" title="fot@autox.team.net">FOT List</a>
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<div class="yiv6097675981MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke;"><strong><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">Subject:</span></strong><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"> Re: [Fot] TR6 Dip Stick
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<div class="yiv6097675981MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">I somehow managed to lose the dip stick tube for my latest engine. So, what's the consensus:</span></div>
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<div class="yiv6097675981MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">???</span></div>
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<div class="yiv6097675981MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">Oddly, three engine block cores and no dip stick tubes. What's up with that?</span></div>
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<div class="yiv6097675981MsoNormal"><span style="">gines haved the dipstock</span></div>
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