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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Same here, we run stock TR3 brakes with Carbotech front pads….never any problems<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike Jackson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 01, 2015 5:57 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Scott Janzen; STEPHEN BOROWSKI<br>
<b>Cc:</b> FOT List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] Race Car Brake Calipers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">I had planned on staying out of this but my fingers have over ruled my brain....<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">My poor old TR3 has NEVER faded a brake at any race anywhere! That includes an amazing bumper to bumper race with an ex IMSA, 6cyl Vitesse at Road America at a previous TR reunion.
I led him twice and we finished with a separation of a few inches. There was no other 4 cyl Triumph within sight. Similarly at tracks as brutal on brakes as Sebring at the 12 hr support race. Ran it many times. NO FADE, even at the old hairpin config.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">You are working on this problem too hard. Or.....as once advised by an old, successful pro racer "more throttle, less brake"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">The real issue to worry about is rear axles, front spindles and front and rear hubs. Modern tires are the villain here, not brakes. Actually, modern tires make the brake issue
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Mike Jackson<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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From: Scott Janzen <br>
Sent: Dec 1, 2015 2:59 PM <br>
To: STEPHEN BOROWSKI <br>
Cc: FOT List <br>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Race Car Brake Calipers <br>
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Brakes are definitely a limiting factor in many vintage cars. One of the things that keep them vintage. The rules for the three clubs below essentially say - calipers of the same size and number of pistons, rotors ditto.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">SVRA says - </span><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">3. Alternate rotors and drums of the
same diameter and thickness are permitted. Rotors may be drilled or grooved.</span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">4. Alternate calipers or wheel cylinders must be of the same material, design and number of pistons as the original component. There must be no increase in the frictional surface
of the pads or shoes </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">VRG - </span><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#245D3F">Brakes must be the original type (disc, drum), size, and
design as supplied by the manufacturer, or listed option, for the model. Updating from drum to disc will result in reclassification if eligibility timeline (e.g. 1960) is crossed. Lining and pad materials are free. Rotors may be drilled or grooved, but
must be same diameter, thickness, and material as originally supplied. Modern aftermarket calipers are not permitted. </span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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as standard for the year of manufacture or as homologated by the original manufacturer for that year. Updating or backdating is not allowed.</span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Geneva","serif";color:#993300">1.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#993300"> </span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Geneva","serif";color:#993300">Aftermarket brake calipers are prohibited</span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">On Dec 1, 2015, at 2:24 PM, STEPHEN BOROWSKI wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">I am starting the selection for front brakes on my TR4 racer. Naturally the old stock ones are out. Are the Toyota four piston calipers
good enough? They are less expensive and easy to get, with disks and assorted pads. Which after market models work well and bolt wright in? Which disks work the best and last? 10 inch, 10.5 inch -- bigger or smaller?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Steve & Matthew<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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