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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>This group has figured out more difficult
problems than this one. I would like to know from anyone <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>who has had a failure if being at full
lock might have caused all the failures.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Seems like a place to start. What is
common to all the failures? If it is full lock that does it would <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>modified steering stops be an option? Over
the winter I’m for sure going to take a hard look at pinning the<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>ends. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Jim g <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Fot
[mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf
Of </span></b>Bob Bownes -Seiri<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, November 11, 2015
2:04 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Tony Drews<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> fot@autox.team.net<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Fot] TR4 TR6 quick
rack</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Sounds like a different housing design would solve the problem. Or an
alternative rack & pinion for a standard rack. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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On Nov 11, 2015, at 14:43, Tony Drews <<a href="mailto:tony@tonydrews.com">tony@tonydrews.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>The issue is that the "tube" is pressed into the housing
where the pinion meets the rack. When you go to full lock, you can knock
the tube out the end of the housing which then makes the rack no longer pressed
into the pinion and steering failure occurs. The fix would involve making
sure that the tube is solidly attached to the housing so it can no longer be
pushed out. Something like holes with bolts / pins could be a
possibility, but that would need to be done in a way to not interfere with
normal operation.<br>
<br>
In my case, I bought the "quick rack" on sale for under $200 and
don't care to even mess with it since I'd be guessing at a fix.<br>
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Cheers, Tony Drews<br>
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At 10:13 AM 11/11/2015, <a href="mailto:robertten1@aol.com">robertten1@aol.com</a>
wrote:<br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=4 color=blue
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;color:blue'>Curious, <br>
<br>
What has been the fix to these racks to make them reliable, if any?? I
have a TVR buddy that has an Argentine Quik Rack an would be interested in
learning about any successful fix(s), outside of tossing this brand new rack he
acquired a few years ago.<br>
<br>
Helping a friend,<br>
Bob T<br>
'64 Spit GT autocrosser<br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Tony Sheach <<a href="mailto:tony.sheach@live.co.uk">tony.sheach@live.co.uk</a>><br>
To: Jack Mc <<a href="mailto:LimeyV8@aol.com">LimeyV8@aol.com</a>><br>
Cc: <<a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>> <<a
href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>><br>
Sent: Wed, Nov 11, 2015 7:47 am<br>
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 TR6 quick rack<br>
<br>
All the racks sold by MOSS are made in <st1:country-region w:st="on">Argentina</st1:country-region>
- the only rack produced in the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region>
for the TR is made for TR Enterprises and has a solid billet casing, so
instantly recognisable.<br>
<br>
Putting the Argentinian rack in a bag with a sticker that says 'product of the <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">U.K.</st1:place></st1:country-region>' Is surely
just a dodge to mask the source and to hoodwink people into thinking that it's
a different product. That's simply scandalous. <br>
<br>
Sent from my iPad<br>
<br>
On 10 Nov 2015, at 21:26, Jack Mc <<a href="mailto:LimeyV8@aol.com">LimeyV8@aol.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
<br>
The quick rack I bought had a sticker on the bag that said "product of the
<st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">U.K.</st1:place></st1:country-region>"
<br>
AND<br>
a sticker on the rack that said "Made in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Argentina</st1:place></st1:country-region>"<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPad<br>
<br>
On Nov 9, 2015, at 3:24 PM, Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley <<a
href="mailto:triosan@gmail.com">triosan@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Tony,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Who si the source for the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region> made rack?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Tony Sheach <<a
href="mailto:tony.sheach@live.co.uk">tony.sheach@live.co.uk</a> > wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Charly<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>There were a large number of failures of these racks
in the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region>
on both road and competition cars. For MOSS to say that there was only one is
simply untrue.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I personally had TWO failures of brand new racks about
18 months apart. Both of these failures involved the pinion housing separating
from the rack tube at high speed in very dangerous circumstances.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I would NOT recommend the use of a MOSS rack to
anyone, whether for road or competition use because the manufacturing quality
is poor and the material quality is similarly inadequate. The information that
I was given at a meeting face to face with MOSS in london have me the
impression that some testing had been done, but the solution to the problem
really had not been found (ie do the job properly).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I now use a custom made rack which has a single piece
pinion housing and rack tube made from billet aluminium. These are being made
in the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region>.
I will never use a steering rack supplied by MOSS again.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Tony<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>> On 9 Nov 2015, at 07:04, Charly <<a
href="mailto:charly@mitchelplumbing.com"> charly@mitchelplumbing.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>> Friends,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>> I have a friend wanting to buy a quick steering
rack for his TR4A. I told him there was a problem with them, but I
thought it was resolved. I searched the archives<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>> and could find anything about it. Does
someone in the group know the outcome of the problems that were brought to Moss
on these quick racks?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>> Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>> Charly Mitchel<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>> Tr6 #44<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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