<html><body><div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><DIV aria-label="Compose body">I did SCCA Time Trials in my C5 corvette for a few years. Since it's a coupe a roll bar wasn't required. <BR>People racing coupes without a rollbar were discouraged from using shoulder harnesses because if the </DIV>
<DIV aria-label="Compose body">car rolls and caves in the top your head then becomes the roll bar. They explain that with a 3 point belt the driver</DIV>
<DIV aria-label="Compose body">could roll out of the shoulder belt to the inboard side. If fully restrained you have nowhere to go.</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>It is unlikely that you will grab anything. A driver I have found will fight it to the last instant hoping to save the crash, then it is TOO LATE. Ducking is better form.</DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Joe Alexander <SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:n197tr4@cs.com" target=_blank data-mce-href="mailto:n197tr4@cs.com">n197tr4@cs.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid" data-mce-style="margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;">If you were Masten Gregory, you would just jump.<BR><BR>Joe Alexander<BR>645 1st Street<BR>Jesup, IA 50648<BR>The-vintage-racer.com<BR>Gasketinnovations.com<BR>Cell: 319.464.4711<BR><BR>> On Aug 15, 2015, at 8:00 PM, John Hasty <<A href="mailto:jhasty@mhc-law.com" target=_blank data-mce-href="mailto:jhasty@mhc-law.com">jhasty@mhc-law.com</A>> wrote:<BR>><BR>> With no roll bar you should consider the period technique... One lap belt for you and another on the passenger seat tightly drawn so when you flip you can lay down across the seats and grab the passenger lap belt and hold on!!!!!<BR>><BR>> Sent from my iPhone<BR>><BR>> On Aug 15, 2015, at 5:35 PM, "McKearn McKearn" <<A href="mailto:mckearn2@gmail.com" target=_blank data-mce-href="mailto:mckearn2@gmail.com">mckearn2@gmail.com</A><mailto:<A href="mailto:mckearn2@gmail.com" target=_blank data-mce-href="mailto:mckearn2@gmail.com">mckearn2@gmail.com</A>>> wrote:<BR>><BR>> Hi.<BR>> Thanks for the replies. I'm thinking a four or five point restraint is what I want but getting the attachment points for the shoulder belts might be tough. I am considering welding in an attachment bracket between the rear fenderwells and keeping it hidden below what I would call the rear seat top or cubby hole top or whatever that area behind the seat is that currently is carpeted and hides all the junk I put behind the seat. I thought 1.5 or 2.0 inch steel tubing with .125 wall thickness would be more than plenty and then screwing 7/16 eye bolts to it through the carpet as attachment points. That way only the eye bolts and the belts will be visible from above. Any thoughts?<BR>> P.J.<BR>><BR>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 11:16 PM, Todd Redmond <<A href="mailto:alfetta95@optonline.net" target=_blank data-mce-href="mailto:alfetta95@optonline.net">alfetta95@optonline.net</A><mailto:<A href="mailto:alfetta95@optonline.net" target=_blank data-mce-href="mailto:alfetta95@optonline.net">alfetta95@optonline.net</A>>> wrote:<BR>> Install grade 5 eye hook bolts. Two for the lap belt and two behind the drivers seat maybe on the rear bulkhead for the shoulder belts. Location is important. Can't be too sharp an angle. I've done this in several street/track cars. They work great. The rear hooks on my cars were hidden under the rear seat. Then buy yourself a new 4 pt harness with snap in attachments. U are good to go. If u want to add the 5th hook for the anti submarine strap under ur seat, go ahead then get a 5 pt harness.<BR>><BR>> Thanks<BR>> Todd Redmond<BR>><BR>>> On Aug 14, 2015, at 11:23 PM, McKearn McKearn <<A href="mailto:mckearn2@gmail.com" target=_blank data-mce-href="mailto:mckearn2@gmail.com">mckearn2@gmail.com</A><mailto:<A href="mailto:mckearn2@gmail.com" target=_blank data-mce-href="mailto:mckearn2@gmail.com">mckearn2@gmail.com</A>>> wrote:<BR>>><BR>>> Hi All.<BR>>> I'm looking to upgrade my stock seat belts(68 GT6, the tech inspector let it slide but told me for the next track day I need to improve) but with it being mostly a street car with no roll bar I'm limited. Any suggestions?<BR>>> Thanks. 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