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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>John,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>Thanks for sharing your experience with the
cast vs. billet flanges. I would prefer to avoid that task. Pulling a
generator apart was not fun. I will be moving forward with a new starter this
summer.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> John Styduhar
[mailto:johnstydo@gmail.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, May 23, 2015 3:10
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Jack Brooks<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Triumph 'Friends of Triumph<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Fot] TR3/4 starter
issue</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Jack, take the old starter off and use it for a boat anchor. You will
not be disappointed by the gear reduction unit. I'm using a Hi Torque gear
reduction starter made by Performance Products, Inc. I have had no engagement
problems whatsoever with the TR4A starter ring installed on a Fidanza aluminum
flywheel with the ring in the factory position. I was running an old TR2
gearbox and there are no clearance issues. If you order this starter, make sure
that the unit has the upgraded billet aluminum mounting flange. The starter I
purchased came with the cast aluminum piece and one of the mounting ears broke
off from engine vibration. The billet piece has worked fine so far. It
was a bearcat to replace. Basically had to take the whole starter apart. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 8:56 PM, Jack Brooks via Fot <<a
href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target="_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Amici,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I am finally
looking to install a gear reduction starter in my (post 60K) Street/Auto-X
TR3A. I believe I need the long later starter, as that is what is
in the car, but I have some function issues which I do not understand. My
configuration is as follows:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Block: TR4<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Tranny: TR3,
non-syncro OD. The small starter bulge on the tranny has been
modified/extended to accommodate the longer starter. The hole is covered
to keep dirt and moisture out.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Flywheel: TR4A-6
style, with bolt on ring gear, lightened to 22 pounds <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Clutch:
Clutchmaster TR6<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I believe the fact
that I am using the TR4A-6 flywheel and bolt-on ring gear drives the need for
the long starter. Any help in confirming this would be appreciated. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>While this
combination has been in place for at least 10 years, I do get times when the
starter spins up, but does not “catch” the ring gear, so it does not turn over
the engine. Restarting always catches, although sometimes this could take
a few tries. I’ve always thought this was the starter needed an overhaul,
but have not taken the time to pull it and see. The starter pinion and
ring gear never crunch. It either engages well or not, although it may
engage and “slip out” occasionally. This non-engagement gets worse with
decreasing temperature. On a 40 degree day, I have tried over 15 starts before
it’ll catch. This is unacceptable. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I want to be sure
this is a starter problem and not a component problem before I install a new
starter and potentially cause problems.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Also, any help on
figuring out the non-engagement and slipping issues would be great. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Just for grins, is
there any way to tell which starter is installed without pulling it out?
It’s been a while.<br>
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Thanks in advance,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=3 color="#888888" face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:#888888'>Jack<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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