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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I have the vibration isolators between the
cabs and the manifold, they weren’t the problem. The leak is at the manifold gasket.
The gaskets are too big for the intake manifolds.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I’m already well into making my own to a
perfect fit this time.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Bill Babcock
[mailto:Bill@ponostyle.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, May 03, 2015 7:37 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Jim
Gray</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> fot@autox.team.net<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Fot] Weber tuning
help please</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>No, they probably wont work unless you find some way to stabilize the
webers against the manifold. Otherwise the vibration will make leaks at some
RPM. And if you did you’ll probably turn the fuel in the float bowls into foam.
My preferred mount is the plastic adapters with O-rings on both sides. They use
a rubber double-cone washer with cups over the ends for stabilizing, or
sometimes flat springs like a bellville washer. I tweak them down until they
are snug and then back off a turn. Using locknuts of course. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I don’t know what remflex gaskets are. The ones I use look like this:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On May 3, 2015, at 11:52 AM, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Jim Gray</st1:PersonName>
<<a href="mailto:toodamnfunky@comcast.net">toodamnfunky@comcast.net</a>>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>You were right but I don’t have a good
solution at the moment. Only # 3 reacted to the carb cleaner and that suprises
me a bit.<u1:p class=""></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I have the thick remflex gaskets in there.
One side of the intake manifold on # 3 had barely any contact with the gasket.<u1:p class=""></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The remflex and the Moss gaskets have
1-11/16” inside diameter openings at the intakes. My cannon manifolds are
1-7/16”<u1:p class=""></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>and the cannon’s don’t have a lot of meat
for bearing surface around the lower area’s around 5 o’clock and 7 o’clock.<u1:p class=""></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>As best I can tell though it was actually
leaking on # 3 at 3 o’clock right next to the clamp bolt.<u1:p class=""></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I could actually look next to the clamp
bolt and see where the gap was.<u1:p class=""></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I need to either find different gaskets
with a smaller ID or make my own.<u1:p class=""></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Have you, or anybody had success at making
their own intake/exhaust gaskets from regular gasket material ?<u1:p class=""></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><span
class=apple-converted-space><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> </span></font></span><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Bill Babcock [<a
href="mailto:Bill@ponostyle.com">mailto:Bill@ponostyle.com</a>]<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>Sunday, May 03, 2015 1:21 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b><span
class=apple-converted-space> <st1:personname u2:st="on" class=""></span><st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Jim Gray</st1:personname></st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [Fot] Weber tuning help please</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Sounds like an air leak somewhere. Perhaps it gets overcome at full
throttle or is worsened at those specific RPMs because of harmonics in the
vibration of the carb. Might be a crack or flaw in the carb, but more likely
it’s in the mounting, either O rings or some other flaw. They can be hard to
detect and locate. You could use the carb cleaner method—spray a little at each
joint or suspect area and listen for changes in engine sound. I’ve used the
ultrasonic detector I use for finding leaks in surfboards to some effect, a
leak sounds like a calliope, but there’s a lot of other noise to sort it from. <u1:p class=""></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On May 3, 2015, at 8:40 AM,<span class=apple-converted-space> <st1:personname u2:st="on" class=""></span><st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Jim Gray</st1:personname></st1:PersonName><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>via Fot <<a
href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<u1:p class=""></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I just installed my webers and I’m running into something
not covered in anything I’ve read so far.<u3:p class=""></u3:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>At cruise speed which I do on the street, 2500 -3000
RPM my exhaust gas temps on # 4 are 100 plus degrees<u3:p class=""></u3:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>over # 1and will climb to 1400 if I stay at that throttle
setting. Under wide open throttle they equalize and seem<u3:p class=""></u3:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>to settle in at about 1300.<u3:p class=""></u3:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>However, I think this may be symptomatic of my other issue.
When I’m tuning the idle air screws, open them up until<u3:p class=""></u3:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>it starts to miss & so on, I can get a predictable
stumble from three out of the four screws.<u3:p class=""></u3:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>The screw on # 3 has no effect on the idle no matter how far
I run it in or out.<u3:p class=""></u3:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Also , when I put my syncrometers on #’s 3 and 4 they are
significantly different.<u3:p class=""></u3:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I’m not going to get my dyno tune before the first race in
two weeks so I’m left to figure it out on my own for now.<u3:p class=""></u3:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Any help would be greatly appreciated,<u3:p class=""></u3:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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