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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We had the exact same problem on one of
our spits without MSD in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:State w:st="on">Colorado</st1:State></st1:place>.
“</span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>When I pull either #1 or
#4 plug wire she runs fine, dips down a bit in RPM, but if I pull #2 or #3 she
almost dies” <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We didn’t move the timing light
sensor wire around though.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We have another spitfire that did one of
the most bizarre things I’ve ever seen. We were trying to sort out
another ignition miss problem and decided it wasn’t going to get fixed at
that moment.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dan, the owner decided to put it back in his
pit, put the hood down and fired it up. It seemed to run a bit worse than when
we started so the hood came back up while it was running.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The distributor cap didn’t get put
back on and it was running! The cap wasn’t even close to the distributor,
it was almost a foot away and you could see the arc dancing all over the inside
of the cap. If someone had told me that story and I hadn’t seen it for
myself I would have called BS.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>All I can say is that was one hot coil,
how it fired in any kind of order that would allow it to run is still beyond my
understanding.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>As far as why a car will still seem to run
unaffected by pulling #’s 1 or 4 is still a puzzle to me.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Some people actually have success with an
adjustable timing light on and MSD equipped car ( if that’s what your
using ) I never did. MSD say’s no. I had to go back to <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>a fixed timing light because the timing
was all over the place, hence the dual spark up to 3K rpm.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Even with the fixed timing light I had
trouble timing the car at the Kastner Cup at Road <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">America</st1:place></st1:country-region>. The MSD unit completely failed
the next weekend out. Now I keep a spare in the box.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The point I’m getting at is in this
case it might not be the MSD box since we had the same problem with a non-MSD
car.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>jim g<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Fot
[mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf
Of </span></b>Steve Smith via Fot<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, April 06, 2015 7:07
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> don@dcphotos.com;
FOT@autox.team.net<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Fot] MSD box</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I've seen that exact issue on a very fast
TR4. Drove us nuts until we tried a new box. They will repair it
very cheaply as I recall. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Remember how NASCAR's always have TWO on
board??<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
From: don--- via Fot <fot@autox.team.net><br>
To: fot <fot@autox.team.net><br>
Sent: Mon, Apr 6, 2015 4:55 pm<br>
Subject: [Fot] MSD box<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>This Spitfire that was
“pawned” off on me has a MSD Digital 6A box in it. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>When I pull either #1 or #4 plug wire she
runs fine, dips down a bit in RPM, but if I pull #2 or #3 she almost dies. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I put my timing gun on #1 wire, she fires
at 15 </span></font><font size=2 color="#666666" face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:#666666;background:white'>°</span></font><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>BTDC and same if I put the timing gun sensor <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>on the #4 wire. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>When I put the sensor on either #2 or #3
wire, it shows it firing all over the place, them seem to settle down to
15°btdc <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>and then goes crazy again, settles
down. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Not sure if this is the MSD box or not
but I thought I might get some answers here. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I did find that the rotor cap was
dragging on the Pertronix Ignitor module inside the distributor. I swapped out
rotor caps but still no luck. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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