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<DIV><FONT size=2>Never really heard that, but consider this: Kerosene is
flammable. Formula V is "combustible," a technical (and legal) distinction that
puts it in the same category as the cardboard box it's shipped in, which is a
distinction that allows it even to be shipped via UPS or FedEx or even mailed.
Despite some cars' fender decorations, you aren't looking for flame, just
softness.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>--Rocky</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 18, 2013 5:24
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Fot] cantilever
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<DIV><SPAN>Rocky, I had heard somewhere that kerosene did about the same thing
to tires as Formula V. Is there anything to that? Jim</SPAN></DIV>
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<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, September
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<DIV><FONT size=2>I'd paint 'em until they just would not take any
more.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>First time I used it I brought back a set of 2-year-old
slicks that had gone rock hard but still had half the tread depth left, took
about 2/3 of the bottle. That was the first set of tires I ever ran to
cord.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>3 to 4 coats a day for 3 days, or 12 coats starting about 9
am and going to 9 pm -- about the same. 3-4 coats a day kinda assumes a
weekend racer working in the evenings, not a professional race team crew
member. It also works better if the tires are scuffed and not glazed.
</FONT><FONT size=2>Need to let one coat soak in (tires aren't shiny wet any
more) before the next one. When they're "done", even if the tire isn't shiny
wet it just runs off and onto the ground (or your catch bucket). They may
still feel "greasy" for a day or so, which is why the 2-day wait (I won't even
put the car on the ground/trailer for 2 days). It's also why you can give them
one coat at the track overnight <U>after</U> it's been run that day, but no
more (you're also working with fr</FONT><FONT size=2>eshly scrubbed tires,
which allows the FVTT to soak in more easily). That's a tip I got from the
FVTT guy, it's not one he advertises because it's too easy to misuse
it.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Once you've got the tires done the first time, it needs just
3-4 coats between events and shortly before next event -- assuming "between"
means 2-4 weeks and not next year.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>I'd tell people it's not a softener, it's a restorer. It
won't make your street rocks into racing gumballs, but it'll bring any tire
back to it's original durometer specs.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>I peddled the stuff about 25 years and I believe in it. When
I retired I passed my franchise to Solo Performance Specialties (Dave
Whitworth, who's a friend). </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>--Rocky</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN>Rocky, how many coats did you put on before a weekend?
Formula V directions say to put 3 to 4 coats for 3 days. Did you do
more than this? <VAR id=yiv274816783yui-ie-cursor></VAR>I've put on
lots of coats with limited success but maybe I stopped short. The
Formula V directions also say to wait 48 hours before racing so I have
not done subsequent coats for a two day event. When you say one coat
to refresh them, I could see that this might work. The directions had
me not going there. Jim</SPAN></DIV>
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<lang@isis.mit.edu>; Scott Janzen <Janzen@REcatalyst.com>
<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> 'Friends of Triumph'
Triumph <fot@autox.team.net> <BR><B><SPAN
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1:49 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Fot]
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<DIV class=yiv274816783y_msg_container><BR>Formula V -- I used to sell the
stuff for many years (retired now) and still use it. My experience is people
who said the tires went off didn't do it enough. My analogy is the tire is
like a hard dried sponge, infuse it with enough of the right liquid and it's
soft again. I'd juice mine until the stuff ran off and it just would not
soak in any more (paint on a treatment, wait an hour, repeat). For multi-day
events, one coat (and ONLY one) in the paddock overnight to refresh them.
Almost always used my tires until the cord showed up.<BR><BR>--Rocky
Entriken<BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert M. Lang" <<A
href="mailto:lang@isis.mit.edu" rel=nofollow target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:lang@isis.mit.edu">lang@isis.mit.edu</A>><BR>To: "Scott
Janzen" <<A href="mailto:Janzen@REcatalyst.com" rel=nofollow
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ymailto="mailto:Janzen@REcatalyst.com">Janzen@REcatalyst.com</A>><BR>Cc:
"'Friends of Triumph' Triumph" <<A href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net"
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ymailto="mailto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</A>><BR>Sent:
Wednesday, September 18, 2013 9:01 AM<BR>Subject: Re: [Fot] cantilever
slicks<BR><BR><BR>> On Tue, 17 Sep 2013, Scott Janzen wrote:<BR>>
<BR>>> so, I'm planning on breaking out the ex-Schneider-Bond-Wheeler
TR4 for a couple of runs this fall - debating whether I need new
tires. There's plenty of rubber left on the Goodyear Eagles (23x9x15),
but as you might know, Goodyear doesn't make these anymore and haven't for a
few years, so I think they are 4-5 years old, minimum (no date codes).
Should I soften them up with Formula V (tire softener), or spring for a new
set of Hoosiers? Not going vintage at this point - with the suspension
setup, the fiberglass flares, etc, I'm going to keep the car as it
is.<BR>>> <BR>>> I don't have any experience with tires like
this . . . can I milk them for a bit longer or have they aged out?<BR>>
<BR>> You can get away with traction compound, but you def. won't get
optimal performance from the tires. The other problem is that after you
"juice" the tires, you get only a few laps before they start going off. Or
at least that's my experience.<BR>> <BR>> If you want tires on a
budget, try using some cast-off Hoosier R45 compound 23x9.5x15's. The used
tires guys usually have some.<BR>> <BR>> regards,<BR>> rml<BR>>
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