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<DIV><FONT size=2>I'd paint 'em until they just would not take any
more.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>First time I used it I brought back a set of 2-year-old slicks
that had gone rock hard but still had half the tread depth left, took about 2/3
of the bottle. That was the first set of tires I ever ran to cord.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>3 to 4 coats a day for 3 days, or 12 coats starting about 9 am
and going to 9 pm -- about the same. 3-4 coats a day kinda assumes a weekend
racer working in the evenings, not a professional race team crew member. It also
works better if the tires are scuffed and not glazed. </FONT><FONT size=2>Need
to let one coat soak in (tires aren't shiny wet any more) before the next one.
When they're "done", even if the tire isn't shiny wet it just runs off and onto
the ground (or your catch bucket). They may still feel "greasy" for a day or so,
which is why the 2-day wait (I won't even put the car on the ground/trailer for
2 days). It's also why you can give them one coat at the track overnight
<U>after</U> it's been run that day, but no more (you're also working with
fr</FONT><FONT size=2>eshly scrubbed tires, which allows the FVTT to soak in
more easily). That's a tip I got from the FVTT guy, it's not one he advertises
because it's too easy to misuse it.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Once you've got the tires done the first time, it needs just
3-4 coats between events and shortly before next event -- assuming "between"
means 2-4 weeks and not next year.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>I'd tell people it's not a softener, it's a restorer. It won't
make your street rocks into racing gumballs, but it'll bring any tire back to
it's original durometer specs.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>I peddled the stuff about 25 years and I believe in it. When I
retired I passed my franchise to Solo Performance Specialties (Dave Whitworth,
who's a friend). </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>--Rocky</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=sherryjimmy6116@att.net href="mailto:sherryjimmy6116@att.net">sherry
robyn</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=rocky@spitfire4.com
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 18, 2013 4:33
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Fot] cantilever
slicks</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN>Rocky, how many coats did you put on before a weekend?
Formula V directions say to put 3 to 4 coats for 3 days. Did you do more
than this? <VAR id=yui-ie-cursor></VAR>I've put on lots of coats with
limited success but maybe I stopped short. The Formula V directions
also say to wait 48 hours before racing so I have not done subsequent
coats for a two day event. When you say one coat to refresh them, I
could see that this might work. The directions had me not going
there. Jim</SPAN></DIV>
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face=Arial><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Rocky Entriken
<rocky@spitfire4.com><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Robert M. Lang
<lang@isis.mit.edu>; Scott Janzen <Janzen@REcatalyst.com>
<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> 'Friends of Triumph'
Triumph <fot@autox.team.net> <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, September 18, 2013 1:49
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Fot]
cantilever slicks<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=y_msg_container><BR>Formula V -- I used to sell the stuff for many
years (retired now) and still use it. My experience is people who said the
tires went off didn't do it enough. My analogy is the tire is like a hard
dried sponge, infuse it with enough of the right liquid and it's soft again.
I'd juice mine until the stuff ran off and it just would not soak in any more
(paint on a treatment, wait an hour, repeat). For multi-day events, one coat
(and ONLY one) in the paddock overnight to refresh them. Almost always used my
tires until the cord showed up.<BR><BR>--Rocky Entriken<BR><BR>----- Original
Message ----- From: "Robert M. Lang" <<A href="mailto:lang@isis.mit.edu"
ymailto="mailto:lang@isis.mit.edu">lang@isis.mit.edu</A>><BR>To: "Scott
Janzen" <<A href="mailto:Janzen@REcatalyst.com"
ymailto="mailto:Janzen@REcatalyst.com">Janzen@REcatalyst.com</A>><BR>Cc:
"'Friends of Triumph' Triumph" <<A href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net"
ymailto="mailto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</A>><BR>Sent:
Wednesday, September 18, 2013 9:01 AM<BR>Subject: Re: [Fot] cantilever
slicks<BR><BR><BR>> On Tue, 17 Sep 2013, Scott Janzen wrote:<BR>>
<BR>>> so, I'm planning on breaking out the ex-Schneider-Bond-Wheeler
TR4 for a couple of runs this fall - debating whether I need new tires.
There's plenty of rubber left on the Goodyear Eagles (23x9x15), but as you
might know, Goodyear doesn't make these anymore and haven't for a few years,
so I think they are 4-5 years old, minimum (no date codes). Should I soften
them up with Formula V (tire softener), or spring for a new set of
Hoosiers? Not going vintage at this point - with the suspension setup,
the fiberglass flares, etc, I'm going to keep the car as it is.<BR>>>
<BR>>> I don't have any experience with tires like this . . . can I milk
them for a bit longer or have they aged out?<BR>> <BR>> You can get away
with traction compound, but you def. won't get optimal performance from the
tires. The other problem is that after you "juice" the tires, you get only a
few laps before they start going off. Or at least that's my
experience.<BR>> <BR>> If you want tires on a budget, try using some
cast-off Hoosier R45 compound 23x9.5x15's. The used tires guys usually have
some.<BR>> <BR>> regards,<BR>> rml<BR>>
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